CBS 48 Hours-July 1st-9 PM-Tara Grinstead-Jennifer Kesse

[angelwngs]

CP, Thank you so much for posting this notice in media links about the 48 Hours TV Special dedicated to Tara Grinstead and Jennifer Kesse. I thought if we created a specific thread for it, we could keep bumping it today to help WS members and guests 'see it' on the front page when they sign in. Also, it will give us a specific thread to use to discuss the show when it airs. Hopefully, there will be new evidence with new clues revealed in both cases!

[quote=concernedperson;2336518]CBS 48 Hours to Air Program Featuring Tara Grinstead's Disappearance on July 1st at 9 PM. "Nightmarish" and "Confounding" are the words from the producer and SAC of GBI's Perry Office describing this case.

http://www.tiftongazette.com/local/local_story_179194729.html[/quote (http://www.tiftongazette.com/local/local_story_179194729.html[/quote)]

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I had a chance to watch almost all of it - I really enjoyed it. ("Enjoyed" seems like such a wrong word, considering the situations, but you know what I mean.) I had never seen any video of Tara, or heard her or family/friends talking, so it was nice to see that, as well as video of the areas, etc. in perspective.

I also knew absolutely nothing about Jennifer's case, so I found that interesting, as well as sad.

Prayers to all family members in both situations. What lovely girls Tara and Jennifer were, both so full of life, joy, and positive energy. What a shame.

[Always Solvable]

Here is a picture of the glove found in Tara's front yard. Does anyone notice anything unusual about this glove?

http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm360/Dottie_078/Latex20GloveEnlarged.jpg?t=1215195012

[SeriouslySearching]

I see what appears to be a stain, but could easily be shadowing/matrixing from the digital camera. Outside of that, nothing unusual.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

It appears to be inside out, not that that is unusual.

Are you asking because you think you see something unusual, or are asking as a general question? (PM if you don't want something on the public board) :)

[SuziQ]

Teethmarks and a hole. Think of someone behind you and how their hand would be over your mouth and if you bit down. You'd bite down on that area between your thumb and index finger. That's how LE knew the glove was connected to her disappearance.

[SuziQ]

She pulled the glove off with her teeth. That's how it came off.

[Always Solvable]

Teethmarks and a hole. Think of someone behind you and how their hand would be over your mouth and if you bit down. You'd bite down on that area between your thumb and index finger. That's how LE knew the glove was connected to her disappearance.


SuziQ, I do believe you are brilliant!!!! After looking closer at the glove it does appear to be teeth marks.

[SuziQ]

I do nails and have vinyl gloves and tried it. It broke way too quickly to leave the teeth marks, but it left a hole the exact same location, same size and shape as in the pic.

[Always Solvable]

I do nails and have vinyl gloves and tried it. It broke way too quickly to leave the teeth marks, but it left a hole the exact same location, same size and shape as in the pic.


I believe that glove to be worn on someones left hand. If you put your left hand to your mouth and bite down that would be Tara's bottom teeth that bite into the gloved hand.

[SuziQ]

I believe that glove to be worn on someones left hand. If you put your left hand to your mouth and bite down that would be Tara's bottom teeth that bite into the gloved hand.

That could tell us whether the person was right handed or left handed. I'm right handed, trying to figure out which hand I would use to cover someones mouth.....

[SuziQ]

I used my right hand for my test. And just turned the glove inside out and now it looks like I used my left hand but I didn't. So it depends on whether the glove in the pic was inside out or not.

[Always Solvable]

I used my right hand for my test. And just turned the glove inside out and now it looks like I used my left hand. So it depends on whether the glove in the pic was inside out or not.

I can't tell if the glove is turned inside out but it appears to me that isn't but I could be wrong. I would say that Tara's saliva is on that glove and that is why Gary Rothwell stated that glove is definitely connected to Tara. The glove also looks to me like it may contain some blood if I am looking at it right.


Now the question is what male was walking around for a few days with a bandage on that area of his hand???????

[concernedperson]

Teethmarks and a hole. Think of someone behind you and how their hand would be over your mouth and if you bit down. You'd bite down on that area between your thumb and index finger. That's how LE knew the glove was connected to her disappearance.


Very, very good observation. If you look at the pic it becomes obvious that is teeth marks...too aligned to be anything but as spatter would be more irregular.

[SuziQ]

I can't tell if the glove is turned inside out but it appears to me that isn't but I could be wrong. I would say that Tara's saliva is on that glove and that is why Gary Rothwell stated that glove is definitely connected to Tara. The glove also looks to me like it may contain some blood if I am looking at it right.


Now the question is what male was walking around for a few days with a bandage on that area of his hand???????

Only a latex glove would have held up like that one did. But when I did the experiment, I had to bite real hard on my hand to get a grip on the glove, then I pulled my hand away and only had the glove in my mouth, that action would have left those elongated teeth marks on latex. The final outcome was the glove broke in my mouth leaving that jagged hole.

Yes, the guy would have had a pretty good injury to his hand, probably the padded palm area below the thumb

[Always Solvable]

Only a latex glove would have held up like that one did. But when I did the experiment, I had to bite real hard on my hand to get a grip on the glove, then I pulled my hand away and only had the glove in my mouth, that action would have left those elongated teeth marks on latex. The final outcome was the glove broke in my mouth leaving that jagged hole.

Yes, the guy would have had a pretty good injury to his hand, probably the padded palm area below the thumb

Thanks for doing that experiment SuzieQ! If this senario is correct then maybe this info will jog someones memory and they will call GBI to report anyone they know that had a bandage left or right hand sometime between 10/23/05 and several days after that date.

[DEPUTYDAWG]

I can't tell if the glove is turned inside out but it appears to me that isn't but I could be wrong. I would say that Tara's saliva is on that glove and that is why Gary Rothwell stated that glove is definitely connected to Tara. The glove also looks to me like it may contain some blood if I am looking at it right.


Now the question is what male was walking around for a few days with a bandage on that area of his hand???????

Hi AS,

Look at the tips of 2-3 of the fingers...from my experience, they are flat(straight) at the end, and on one, you can basically see where the tip is folded to the inside. It's my opinion we are looking at the inside of the glove.

ETA: The finger that is closest to the bottom left of the picture is the one I'm talking about that really looks like latex gloves that are turned inside out and the finger portion isn't pulled all the way through.

[Always Solvable]

I used my right hand for my test. And just turned the glove inside out and now it looks like I used my left hand but I didn't. So it depends on whether the glove in the pic was inside out or not.

After viewing the glove once again I do believe you are right that the perp would have that glove on his right hand and the gloves does appear to be turned inside out.

[SuziQ]

Thanks for doing that experiment SuzieQ! If this senario is correct then maybe this info will jog someones memory and they will call GBI to report anyone they know that had a bandage left or right hand sometime between 10/23/05 and several days after that date.


GBI needs to release the bite info so it will jog someone's memory. I didn't watch the 48 hours episode and will try to get to it tonight.

[Always Solvable]

GBI needs to release the bite info so it will jog someone's memory. I didn't watch the 48 hours episode and will try to get to it tonight.

ITA! I have emailed Gary Rothwell this link so let's hope he will do just that if all of our thinking is correct.

[believe09]

So Tara's saliva would have been on the glove too and they would have a DNA profile of her too...very interesting!!

[christine2448]

GBI releases new information in Tara Grinstead case (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000097/!x-usc:http://digg.com/television/GBI_releases_new_information_in_Tara_Grinstead_cas e)
The Georgia Bureau of Investigation wants to know whose DNA and fingerprint are on a glove found near the home of an Ocilla woman missing for nearly three years.

GBI releases new information in Tara Grinstead case (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000097/!x-usc:http://www.tips-life.com/gbi-releases-new-information-in-tara-grinstead-case.htm)
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PERRY – The Georgia Bureau of Investigation wants to know whose DNA and fingerprint are on a glove found near the home of an Ocilla woman missing for nearly three years. The GBI released the new evidence today in the Tara Grinstead case ...

[arielilane]

The below were HUGE red flags for me. I think if they stay on Marcus and question all his family, friends, buddies, and acquaintances they will find who the glove belongs to and who helped him get rid of Tara.


Ex-boyfriend, former cop and Army Ranger Marcus Harper. "We learned that Tara and Marcus had had a relationship lasting approximately six years," Rothwell says
But just two weeks before she disappeared, Marcus told Tara their relationship was over for good. Connie says Tara was "absolutely devastated."

Marcus told journalist and TV host Greta Van Susteren the last time he saw Tara was a week before she vanished when she begged him not to leave her. "She approached me crying, she was very irrational, and she told me that if she found out I was dating someone, she would commit suicide," he said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/30/48hours/main4219397_page2.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/30/48hours/main4219397_page2.shtml)

[concernedperson]

The below were HUGE red flags for me. I think if they stay on Marcus and question all his family, friends, buddies, and acquaintances they will find who the glove belongs to and who helped him get rid of Tara.


Ex-boyfriend, former cop and Army Ranger Marcus Harper. "We learned that Tara and Marcus had had a relationship lasting approximately six years," Rothwell says
But just two weeks before she disappeared, Marcus told Tara their relationship was over for good. Connie says Tara was "absolutely devastated."

Marcus told journalist and TV host Greta Van Susteren the last time he saw Tara was a week before she vanished when she begged him not to leave her. "She approached me crying, she was very irrational, and she told me that if she found out I was dating someone, she would commit suicide," he said.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/30/48hours/main4219397_page2.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/30/48hours/main4219397_page2.shtml)


From the same article:

But Osjha says this doesn't sound like the Tara she knew. "She's never said anything remotely similar to me ever any time."

Rothwell doesn't believe Tara committed suicide either. "The circumstances just don't fit a suicide. And given the search for her, we believe she would have been found by now. It's very difficult to hide your own body," he points out.

[believe09]

from the linked CBS article:
snip
Asked if Tara had put herself in a position in her life where she may have created jealousies or given someone a motive to murder her, Maria says, "I think the fact that she was beautiful and other people paid attention to her would obviously make some people jealous. I think she was afraid of the possibility of someone hurting her from being angry at her, having reactions to her dating people."
snip

Has this been Maria's position all along; I have to say that this is the first I have heard about it...it is clear she is drawing a line to Tara's close male friends.

It interests me that the article specifies that DNA has been taken from all of those who had a romantic relationship with Tara-what about anyone associated because of an alibi or whatever? For example the officer who MH was riding with; LG; the software salesman who was seen at the school; the guy who processed her car...who does a romantic relationship actually entail??

[docwho3]

. . .It interests me that the article specifies that DNA has been taken from all of those who had a romantic relationship with Tara-what about anyone associated because of an alibi or whatever? For example the officer who MH was riding with; LG; the software salesman who was seen at the school; the guy who processed her car...who does a romantic relationship actually entail?? The interview I watched and/or an article I read mentioned about 150 people or so had been tested for DNA match. To me that would include more than just those romantically involved with her and would branch out to include some others as well. I do not recall that only those romantic with her were said to have been tested so I think perhaps those with connections to the case as well as some others slightly more removed were tested.

I saw a Greta interview video at Video link (http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=1977575&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b 0c12f2749)

[believe09]

The interview I watched and/or an article I read mentioned about 150 people or so had been tested for DNA match. To me that would include more than just those romantically involved with her and would branch out to include some others as well. I do not recall that only those romantic with her were said to have been tested so I think perhaps those with connections to the case as well as some others slightly more removed were tested.

I saw a Greta interview video at Video link (http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=1977575&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b 0c12f2749)

Thanks, Doc-this was pointed out to me by PM as well. So then we are truly looking at a stranger abduction if this is the case-I am not saying that the stranger would not have been associated with those who knew Tara; I think if a stranger were "hired" to take her, then we would have to have a pretty good motive for the set up and execution of such a complicated plan....many small things could have derailed this kind of a kidnapping. If Tara did indeed bite the hand in the glove, how is it she didn't get a chance to scream? I suppose that this is where the kidnapping could have gone awry and she might have been killed at that moment....but wow, I think the whole stranger abduction seemed far fetched to me....I was much more of a fan of the possibility that she walked away then that one.

Shows you how much I have to learn!!!

[LillyRush]

Teethmarks and a hole. Think of someone behind you and how their hand would be over your mouth and if you bit down. You'd bite down on that area between your thumb and index finger. That's how LE knew the glove was connected to her disappearance.

You're good, SuziQ! Very interesting indeed. I hope it does jog someone's memory.

[LillyRush]

from the linked CBS article:
snip
Asked if Tara had put herself in a position in her life where she may have created jealousies or given someone a motive to murder her, Maria says, "I think the fact that she was beautiful and other people paid attention to her would obviously make some people jealous. I think she was afraid of the possibility of someone hurting her from being angry at her, having reactions to her dating people."
snip

Has this been Maria's position all along; I have to say that this is the first I have heard about it...it is clear she is drawing a line to Tara's close male friends.

It interests me that the article specifies that DNA has been taken from all of those who had a romantic relationship with Tara-what about anyone associated because of an alibi or whatever? For example the officer who MH was riding with; LG; the software salesman who was seen at the school; the guy who processed her car...who does a romantic relationship actually entail??

I agree that the scope should go beyond the typical "romantic" relationship. If you look at what Maria is saying, she is almost implying that it could be a female who was jealous of Tara or another woman scorned/angry over her dating someone.

[LillyRush]

Thanks, Doc-this was pointed out to me by PM as well. So then we are truly looking at a stranger abduction if this is the case-I am not saying that the stranger would not have been associated with those who knew Tara; I think if a stranger were "hired" to take her, then we would have to have a pretty good motive for the set up and execution of such a complicated plan....many small things could have derailed this kind of a kidnapping. If Tara did indeed bite the hand in the glove, how is it she didn't get a chance to scream? I suppose that this is where the kidnapping could have gone awry and she might have been killed at that moment....but wow, I think the whole stranger abduction seemed far fetched to me....I was much more of a fan of the possibility that she walked away then that one.

Shows you how much I have to learn!!!

What if someone put their hand (wearing the glove of course) over her face to knock her out with chloroform or something and she was able to get a bite in before it totally knocked her out? Or maybe someone was strangling her from behind with one hand and covering her mouth with the other? So, there was no time for screaming, just her trying to get the person's hand off her mouth by biting it.

[concernedperson]

What if someone put their hand (wearing the glove of course) over her face to knock her out with chloroform or something and she was able to get a bite in before it totally knocked her out? Or maybe someone was strangling her from behind with one hand and covering her mouth with the other? So, there was no time for screaming, just her trying to get the person's hand off her mouth by biting it.

Either one of those scenarios is viable IMO. I tend to think it is your first thought as I believe she was killed some place else and he was getting her away from the house. I also think he came back to the house to "clean" and that is when the glove was dropped. He probably put the used ones in his pocket and put on another pair for the clean up and didn't realize he had dropped one until the news media came out with it.

I would bet he is a little nervous now knowing that GBI has his DNA and a partial fingerprint that can be matched manually. He will be looking over his shoulder for a long time. I would imagine this would limit some activities as well....leaving prints on doors, cars, flat surfaces and of course, DNA. Cigarette butts, coffee cups or just about any throwaway item. Don't need a SW for throwaway items.

[believe09]

What if someone put their hand (wearing the glove of course) over her face to knock her out with chloroform or something and she was able to get a bite in before it totally knocked her out? Or maybe someone was strangling her from behind with one hand and covering her mouth with the other? So, there was no time for screaming, just her trying to get the person's hand off her mouth by biting it.

True, but it is their reaction that raises my question-if someone gave you a good bite between your thumb and forefinger, you would have to have some kind of miraculous self control to prevent yourself from yanking your hand away....

[concernedperson]

True, but it is their reaction that raises my question-if someone gave you a good bite between your thumb and forefinger, you would have to have some kind of miraculous self control to prevent yourself from yanking your hand away....

Yep, maybe he did and punched her in the nose after? Or if he was using a drug it may have taken hold as I think it takes a few seconds .I think the self control issue you brought up is interesting.

[RememberTara]

I agree that the scope should go beyond the typical "romantic" relationship. If you look at what Maria is saying, she is almost implying that it could be a female who was jealous of Tara or another woman scorned/angry over her dating someone.
From conversations that I have had with Maria, I believe she was talking about a male.

[LillyRush]

True, but it is their reaction that raises my question-if someone gave you a good bite between your thumb and forefinger, you would have to have some kind of miraculous self control to prevent yourself from yanking your hand away....

It would hurt, I'm sure. That's why I mentioned the chloroform. If the person's goal was to make her pass out using some kind of chemical over her mouth, then they would have been trying their hardest. They'd be trying to keep their focus and not move until she was completely out.

[LillyRush]

fdrom conversation that I have had with Maria, I believe she was talking about a male.

Thanks. When I read it again, I could see how either a male or female might have been mad over those types of things.

[LillyRush]

Either one of those scenarios is viable IMO. I tend to think it is your first thought as I believe she was killed some place else and he was getting her away from the house. I also think he came back to the house to "clean" and that is when the glove was dropped. He probably put the used ones in his pocket and put on another pair for the clean up and didn't realize he had dropped one until the news media came out with it.

I would bet he is a little nervous now knowing that GBI has his DNA and a partial fingerprint that can be matched manually. He will be looking over his shoulder for a long time. I would imagine this would limit some activities as well....leaving prints on doors, cars, flat surfaces and of course, DNA. Cigarette butts, coffee cups or just about any throwaway item. Don't need a SW for throwaway items.

Yep, I think it may have been the 1st option I mentioned too. It would also explain why, as I mentioned to believe09, that the person would be trying really hard to keep their hand there despite being bit.

[docwho3]

....but wow, I think the whole stranger abduction seemed far fetched to me....I was much more of a fan of the possibility that she walked away then that one. . . .
I am still considering runaway as one of the plausible solutions unless or until someone releases evidence that a crime happened and so far all we seem to have is a glove (which we all have long known about) and the male DNA and probably a partial print of some kind, all from within or upon that glove. What probably blows some persons minds is that they must now either toss away their thoughts of a crime having been done by someone close to tara (such as known exboyfriends etc.) or else link their local suspect to this unknown stranger who was so far removed from tara's circle of acquaintances that he was not one of the 150 tested.

That actually takes some doing in my opinion and further makes any crime seem less an act of chance and more of plan. . . . . . but then I still run into the lack of evidence of a crime. The glove, print & DNA could all be simply the result of someone helping someone run away and trying to conceal their identity (by wearing gloves) so as not to be tracked down and asked about the runaway's whereabouts. Or a runaway & helper could have planted a glove just to make the scene more like a crime scene than a runaway, especially if helper was someone not likely to be in any print system. In the case of the runaway mailman a spot of blood was left behind on his mail truck and I believe that was done to make the scene appear to be a crime scene or a suicide scene and not a runaway case. So it would not be the first time a runaway staged the scene when leaving.

At this point I am still open to both main solutions, either a crime or a runaway solution, since there has not yet been enough evidence released to the public to exclude one or the other solution.

[Trino]

I am still considering runaway as one of the plausible solutions unless or until someone releases evidence that a crime happened and so far all we seem to have is a glove (which we all have long known about) and the male DNA and probably a partial print of some kind, all from within or upon that glove. What probably blows some persons minds is that they must now either toss away their thoughts of a crime having been done by someone close to tara (such as known exboyfriends etc.) or else link their local suspect to this unknown stranger who was so far removed from tara's circle of acquaintances that he was not one of the 150 tested.

That actually takes some doing in my opinion and further makes any crime seem less an act of chance and more of plan. . . . . . but then I still run into the lack of evidence of a crime. The glove, print & DNA could all be simply the result of someone helping someone run away and trying to conceal their identity (by wearing gloves) so as not to be tracked down and asked about the runaway's whereabouts. Or a runaway & helper could have planted a glove just to make the scene more like a crime scene than a runaway, especially if helper was someone not likely to be in any print system. In the case of the runaway mailman a spot of blood was left behind on his mail truck and I believe that was done to make the scene appear to be a crime scene or a suicide scene and not a runaway case. So it would not be the first time a runaway staged the scene when leaving.

At this point I am still open to both main solutions, either a crime or a runaway solution, since there has not yet been enough evidence released to the public to exclude one or the other solution.


IMO unless Tara had a major sugar daddy waiting for her, she would have needed to seek employment. Tara's pic and story have been all over the media; hiding for such an extended time - at least, in the US - would not have been plausible.

[docwho3]

IMO unless Tara had a major sugar daddy waiting for her, she would have needed to seek employment. Tara's pic and story have been all over the media; hiding for such an extended time - at least, in the US - would not have been plausible.I disagree. It has been proven in other cases of adult runaways that they can and do find employment for years. There is no need for a sugar daddy to be involved.

One lady was gone for years and worked in a walmart and if I remember right another worked in an ad agency and there was a young runaway that went to florida and did restaurant work and she left the plates on her car which was parked outside where she stayed. In short, it does not seem to matter if your pic has been all over the news or not. Starting a new life has been done by people in spite of all that.

[christine2448]

I am still considering runaway as one of the plausible solutions unless or until someone releases evidence that a crime happened and so far all we seem to have is a glove (which we all have long known about) and the male DNA and probably a partial print of some kind, all from within or upon that glove.

Originally Posted by believe09
....but wow, I think the whole stranger abduction seemed far fetched to me....I was much more of a fan of the possibility that she walked away then that one. . . .


I started a thread when (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64667)I opened the forum about runaway being a possible...would love to discuss that more.

Today I opened an thread to discuss the evidence. (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67051)

[browneyedgirl]

I wonder if LE tested MH girlfriends DNA against the recovered glove?

[docwho3]

I wonder if LE tested MH girlfriends DNA against the recovered glove?I believe the DNA found was said to be male and thus would likely not be compared to a female.

[docwho3]

I started a thread when (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64667)I opened the forum about runaway being a possible...would love to discuss that more.

Today I opened an thread to discuss the evidence. (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67051)
KK. Will try to be helpful wherever I can.

Thanks for creating threads for us.

[concernedperson]

I started a thread when (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64667)I opened the forum about runaway being a possible...would love to discuss that more.

Today I opened an thread to discuss the evidence. (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67051)

Not likely at this point that Tara is a runaway when authorities believe this is foul play. The fact of the glove containing DNA doesn't suggest that someone would be casually picking up Tara for a date or a runaway situation. Why wear gloves?

The runaway aspect at this juncture really doesn't make any sense. It could be akin to Hans Reiser saying this about his ex wife but he finally led authorities to her body today.

If we want this case to be solved than we need to be apprised of what has transpired and what GBI has recently said. That is where the help can be. Otherwise, nothing is being done for Tara.

[believe09]

Not likely at this point that Tara is a runaway when authorities believe this is foul play. The fact of the glove containing DNA doesn't suggest that someone would be casually picking up Tara for a date or a runaway situation. Why wear gloves?

The runaway aspect at this juncture really doesn't make any sense. It could be akin to Hans Reiser saying this about his ex wife but he finally led authorities to her body today.

If we want this case to be solved than we need to be apprised of what has transpired and what GBI has recently said. That is where the help can be. Otherwise, nothing is being done for Tara.


Respectfully, unless there is evidence from Tara on the glove, how do we know for sure the glove is not just something someone dropped?

I have to say however, the whole stranger abduction has me floored-i suppose that it may be likely that some of this was staged by Tara herself even if there is evidence on the glove that can be linked back to her. Let me state clearly that I do not know what I believe at this point...

[browneyedgirl]

I believe the DNA found was said to be male and thus would likely not be compared to a female.

Good catch Doc. I apologize, I must have missed that part of the interview. Thanks again :blowkiss:

[Emily Booth]

Tara had every reason to pick up and relocate if she wanted to start over after her relationship with MH ended. But, she doesn't strike me as the type to run away. Her approach to funding her education showed she was very resourceful, goal-driven, methodical and conservative. She was described as frugal. She recharged her cell phone when she got home from the barbecue so she was expecting to use it the next day --she was described as never being without it. I don't think she would've run off without her car and her cell or making arrangements for the care of her dog and cat. A quick trip to the store without a cell, yes, but she still would've taken her car and she would've been seen by other people. I don't think she would've committed suicide without leaving a note.

Her broken necklace and missing chandelier earrings makes me think she was interrupted while getting ready for bed. I don't think she'd wear chandelier earrings with sweats. Not outside.

[browneyedgirl]

Tara had every reason to pick up and relocate if she wanted to start over after her relationship with MH ended. But, she doesn't strike me as the type to run away. Her approach to funding her education showed she was very resourceful, goal-driven, methodical and conservative. She was described as frugal. She recharged her cell phone when she got home from the barbecue so she was expecting to use it the next day --she was described as never being without it. I don't think she would've run off without her car and her cell or making arrangements for the care of her dog and cat. A quick trip to the store without a cell, yes, but she still would've taken her car and she would've been seen by other people. I don't think she would've committed suicide without leaving a note.

Her broken necklace and missing chandelier earrings makes me think she was interrupted while getting ready for bed. I don't think she'd wear chandelier earrings with sweats. Not outside.

ITA with your post Emily. :)