Brooke Bennett, 12 yrs. old Randolph, VT #5

[christine2448]

Please continue discussion here.

Links to previous and similar threads can be found at the very bottom of the page.

[FourWands]

I'm hoping this doesn't turn into a political discussion. It's very obvious, even from my short time on this forum, that a lot of people will not see eye to eye on this issue.
Be as it may, the librarian did what she did. Some will like it, some won't but ultimately, this thread is about Brooke and I'm hoping we can keep it focused on her search. Please? Maybe?
:moose:

[twinkiesmom]

Littledeer, I hear you about your family with four girls and one of them (apparently) escaping the abuse, but in this case, I think it's much more likely that the stepdad chose her mother to marry because she had a daughter. The large age difference between mom and perv stepdad has shown up before in other cases (e.g., Rowan Ford).

[Beyond Belief]

do we have a map of where brook was last seen in town, to where the clothes were found, then to jacques place?

[MCDRAW]

I wonder where Ray was when Heaven LaShae Ross disappeared?

[believe09]

i understand your point FW, however i think that the discussion regarding the library's computers falls under the search for Brooke and not a political discussion. All of the cases like this give us a chance to assess and learn about LE techniques and what would have worked better given what they were/are faced with. Would instant access to the computers without a warrant lead to information that is essential for recovery of Brooke? And did the lack of access destroy or compromise information?

We will see I guess.

[swanniee11]

I took alook around the news, can't find when Gagnon is due in court. anyone hear?

[FourWands]

i understand your point FW, however i think that the discussion regarding the library's computers falls under the search for Brooke and not a political discussion. All of the cases like this give us a chance to assess and learn about LE techniques and what would have worked better given what they were/are faced with. Would instant access to the computers without a warrant lead to information that is essential for recovery of Brooke? And did the lack of access destroy or compromise information?

We will see I guess.


I just don't want it to get "needlessly ugly" I guess... I'm really not one for censorship but... you know how those conversations can turn out...

[rccook555]

I took alook around the news, can't find when Gagnon is due in court. anyone hear?

I have tried finding a time for todays court hearing also with no luck. If you find out please let me know. Thanks!

[Rino]

i understand your point FW, however i think that the discussion regarding the library's computers falls under the search for Brooke and not a political discussion. All of the cases like this give us a chance to assess and learn about LE techniques and what would have worked better given what they were/are faced with. Would instant access to the computers without a warrant lead to information that is essential for recovery of Brooke? And did the lack of access destroy or compromise information?

We will see I guess.
Exaclty. I don't see it as political in this instance one bit.

[FourWands]

Gotcha. Shut up FourWands.
:silenced:

[WindChime]

All political discussion will remain off Brooks thread. Political discussion will remain on the PP forum. Ediwin Hall's forum had a political discussion thread that went south and was moved to the PP forum so the rules will apply to Brooks thread as well.

[swanniee11]

i understand your point FW, however i think that the discussion regarding the library's computers falls under the search for Brooke and not a political discussion. All of the cases like this give us a chance to assess and learn about LE techniques and what would have worked better given what they were/are faced with. Would instant access to the computers without a warrant lead to information that is essential for recovery of Brooke? And did the lack of access destroy or compromise information?

We will see I guess.

I have to agree, LE has been tight lipped and covered all bases that they came across from what I can tell so far, Honestly, it's probably a good thing he got a warrant so that if he did find something it can be used against whomever and there wouldnt be an argument, as for needing one, thats a whole different topic. I sure do hope he does get more info as to where Brooke is.

[Rino]

Gotcha. Shut up FourWands.
:silenced:
Don't be silly, you're point was a good one

[believe09]

Gotcha. Shut up FourWands.
:silenced:

NOOOOOOO-please do not take this as such!!!!
:blowkiss:

[Nugrandma1]

The news this morning (I live in MA) is that they are close to finding Brooke. I hope that she ran away and hid somewhere with friends to get away from her stepfather and uncle. How terrible this story is getting. A sex ring yikes that is disgusting.

If she is dead you can bet the Uncle did it. What a creepy looking guy.

He also was the one who "found" pieces of her clothing. He knew just where they were didn't he.

I saw her biological father on TV. Not exactly wonderful either. He knew the Uncle had a history of child abuse, but he wasn't worried, since it "was a long time ago" DUH!!!!!! The whole family sounds sick. And where oh where is Mommy, not one word out of her asking where her daughter is. That is very suspicious.

[Brooks Aunt]

Gagnon's hearing is at 1pm today

[Nugrandma1]

Thanks for the info on the hearing

[rccook555]

Gagnon's hearing is at 1pm today

Thank you very much Brooks Aunt. Welcome to WS. Our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family during this hard time. Praying today is the day Brooke is found safe and sound.

[Brooks Aunt]

We are all hoping to hear something soon.

[adnoid]

I understand the frustration, but I think she took the correct action...(ducking)

In these times, where a defense attorney will do anything they can to prevent real evidence from being brought to bear againast a client they know is guilty, I understand the action. Suppose the library search produced damning evidence that was thrown out at trial due to a lack of warrant? It happens.

As I read the article a warrant was obtained fairly quickly while people waited and no evidence was lost.

[christine2448]

We are all hoping to hear something soon.

Praying for you! Hoping she is safe and just ran from all of this.

[rccook555]

Did we find out for sure if this is Brookes MySpace? http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=358797754
Shows someone online right now. LE maybe?

[Nugrandma1]

Brooks Aunt, are you really her aunt? Are you the wife of the suspect? I hope not

I just hope they find her soon.

[Busylady]

Yes that is one of Brookes myspace accounts I believe.

Did we find out for sure if this is Brookes MySpace? http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=358797754
Shows someone online right now. LE maybe?

[amomandherblog]

The news this morning (I live in MA) is that they are close to finding Brooke. I hope that she ran away and hid somewhere with friends to get away from her stepfather and uncle. How terrible this story is getting. A sex ring yikes that is disgusting.

If she is dead you can bet the Uncle did it. What a creepy looking guy.

He also was the one who "found" pieces of her clothing. He knew just where they were didn't he.

I saw her biological father on TV. Not exactly wonderful either. He knew the Uncle had a history of child abuse, but he wasn't worried, since it "was a long time ago" DUH!!!!!! The whole family sounds sick. And where oh where is Mommy, not one word out of her asking where her daughter is. That is very suspicious.

I really hope that she did just run away, and now that Jacques and Gagnon are in jail, she'll feel safe enough to come back. I really, really do hope that. But I just have a hard time imagining anyone that age staying gone for this long on her own. My daughter is the same age, and pretty independent, but I don't for a minute think she'd ever stay gone for a full week. Not willingly.

[amomandherblog]

Did we find out for sure if this is Brookes MySpace? http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=358797754
Shows someone online right now. LE maybe?

I'm pretty sure that's the real one (the one she was using when she went missing).

[Class-z]

I'm hoping this doesn't turn into a political discussion. It's very obvious, even from my short time on this forum, that a lot of people will not see eye to eye on this issue.
Be as it may, the librarian did what she did. Some will like it, some won't but ultimately, this thread is about Brooke and I'm hoping we can keep it focused on her search. Please? Maybe?
:moose:

I was thinking that in the long run it probably was a good idea to get a warrant, as some dang defense attorney would probably get the evidence if there was some thrown out, without the warrant on some stupid technicality

Sorry, two great minds think alike I guess. :) I hadn't seen Adnoid's post, but we agree. ;)

[christine2448]

I really hope that she did just run away, and now that Jacques and Gagnon are in jail, she'll feel safe enough to come back. I really, really do hope that. But I just have a hard time imagining anyone that age staying gone for this long on her own. My daughter is the same age, and pretty independent, but I don't for a minute think she'd ever stay gone for a full week. Not willingly.

There are MANY that run and never go back. I think many would be surprised at how well you can adapt and survive out there at a young age.

[less0305]

I was thinking that in the long run it probably was a good idea to get a warrant, as some dang defense attorney would probably get the evidence if there was some thrown out, without the warrant on some stupid technicality

Sorry, two great minds think alike I guess. :) I hadn't seen Adnoid's post, but we agree. ;)

I work for a municipality and I know that we are not allowed to give access to certain records without a judge's order... not even a search warrant will work in some cases. Like personnel records - we MUST have a judge's court order to release those records to anyone. So just going on that information, I'm sure there are some same rules for counties and libraries for access to information.

[jnodrog]

Did we find out for sure if this is Brookes MySpace? http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=358797754
Shows someone online right now. LE maybe?
I wonder if the 3rd person out there is or was on that page, it hadnt changed since the 28th now it has. Hmmmmmmmmmmm


Allen

[PandaJ]

I'm holding on to the hope that Brooke is still alive. I don't think she ran away - I definitely think the uncle arranged a "meeting" for her, and knows where she is. I think that whoever she had this "meeting" with, still has her, IMO, and is probably afraid to let her go now, due to all the media attention.

I keep going back to the convenience store tape. She looked so uncomfortable....and she didn't look like she was dressed up to go meet some guy she met online, IMO. The way she just went the other way and the uncle didn't even look back at her, makes me think he arranged this meeting for her, and it maybe wasn't the first time. I just don't believe this alleged sex ring is just a coincidence - I think it has everything to do with Brooke's disappearance. IMO

This is what I'm hoping, anyway.

[SailorMoon]

I have to agree but maybe, just maybe --she's so irritated and sick of her mom, aunt and maybe dad for shoving her in this situation that she wants nothing to do with any of them right now. She has to feel betrayed. I just don't know. I hope she's doing exactly that. Hope and pray.

I really hope that she did just run away, and now that Jacques and Gagnon are in jail, she'll feel safe enough to come back. I really, really do hope that. But I just have a hard time imagining anyone that age staying gone for this long on her own. My daughter is the same age, and pretty independent, but I don't for a minute think she'd ever stay gone for a full week. Not willingly.

[swanniee11]

I'm all over the place on this one. Her myspace says she can't wait to get away from Vermont and go to Texas, Maybe she was trying to get away for Uncle, nothing to do with Gagnon other then her emailing him? I just heard on Fox Brookes step mom ( birth fathers wife Janet), she seems to be the most level headed one of the bunch. She wouldnt answer who the other girl was (A. R.) for respect to the girl. She did cry which brought tears to my eyes. She said that they talked to Brooke in regards to the Uncle and his history and talked to her repeatedly if anything was going on and Brooke said no. Brooke told them she liked to go over to visit her cousins. Thats all I can remember and its not word for word.

also, police are saying they are very close.

[Class-z]

I'm holding on to the hope that Brooke is still alive. I don't think she ran away - I definitely think the uncle arranged a "meeting" for her, and knows where she is. I think that whoever she had this "meeting" with, still has her, IMO, and is probably afraid to let her go now, due to all the media attention.

I keep going back to the convenience store tape. She looked so uncomfortable....and she didn't look like she was dressed up to go meet some guy she met online, IMO. The way she just went the other way and the uncle didn't even look back at her, makes me think he arranged this meeting for her, and it maybe wasn't the first time. I just don't believe this alleged sex ring is just a coincidence - I think it has everything to do with Brooke's disappearance. IMO

This is what I'm hoping, anyway.

If this is the case, they will kill her and dump her body I fear. They dont' want to be caught and they certainly cant' turn her over now that the jig is up so to speak.

I'm keeping positive thoughts for her, but it doesn't look or sound good. :(

[cheko1]

Celt, posted this link on thread #4 /Thank you CELT!
I wanted to bring it over here for everyone to see!

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...#pluckcomments

I don't even know where to start w/this article...ok this is the Grandma Lucinda Milne: "Michael has been my son-in-law for 12 years. That’s why I can say that I love him. I hugged him when Brooke went missing. And then I found out about this — well, you know what that did to my stomach.”

[swanniee11]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182869,00.html

different case however what are these Vermont judges thinking?

[cheko1]

If my Granddaughter disapeared & I thought one of my son inlaws had done something to her....grrrrrrrrrrrrrr MJ isn't any sicker then her daughter was/ is for believing him.

When she found KY jell / a dildo a dry bath tub & a girl with a towel wrapped around her when she came home early from work / would of did it for me. He'd have had divorce papers by now.

[Spazkat9696]

When she found KY jell / a dildo a dry bath tub & a girl with a towel wrapped around her when she came home early from work / would of did it for me. He'd have had divorce papers by now.


What????? I missed something while I was at work. Where did that bit of info come from. OMG!!!!

[angelmom]

What????? I missed something while I was at work. Where did that bit of info come from. OMG!!!!

This was from the affadavit about MJ's arrest. It was about his other victim, not BB. Denise found her - we are assuming her daughter - in this situation and believed the daughter that it was nothing. Try...um...thread 3??? Sorry! I don't have the link. This may end up needing a place of its own to keep track now that it has blown open.

[amomandherblog]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,182869,00.html

different case however what are these Vermont judges thinking?

I remember that one.

It's the same thing with making these guys eligible for bail. If they were busted for something like that in Florida, there is no way they'd be able to make bail.

[cheko1]

What????? I missed something while I was at work. Where did that bit of info come from. OMG!!!!


I read it in a article someplace Spazkat.......I'll try finding the link for you!!!

[cheko1]

Here it is Spaz: SuziQ posted it on thread #3 thanks again SuziQ!



http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents..._affidavit.pdf (http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf)

[rccook555]

Here it is Spaz: SuziQ posted it on thread #3 thanks again SuziQ!



http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents..._affidavit.pdf

Thank you Cheko :blowkiss: for bringing that forward. I was looking for it earlier.

[bdmama]

I belive she said she was Jim's wifes (Janet) sister.

[SeriouslySearching]

So they think they are getting closer to finding Brooke? I don't know if that is good news or not since they have only been conducting searches on his property and home.

Does it mean the men have been giving up bits of information? The best thing that could happen is to pit the two men against each other and one caves in (which they are probably doing).

I am outraged by the grandmother's and mother's comments! While we complained about them not speaking out...maybe they should go back to silence. The things they have said lead me to believe that they care more about their lifestyle and those two men than this poor girl. Blaming the real victims in this case isn't going to bode well for anyone!

I recall Sheriff Brown using much the same tactic in the Maria Lauterbach case asking her to just "come home". They found her body soon afterwards.

[Amster]

ugh....first thing I read today was comments from the grandmother. :mad:

Mike is "just sick"? No, grandma clueless.....he's just evil!

Have we seen a pic of Denise? Honestly, if we ever do, I hope it's a mug shot!

Continued prayers for Brooke....

[SeriouslySearching]

There are MANY that run and never go back. I think many would be surprised at how well you can adapt and survive out there at a young age.You are right. Kids protect other kids and even some of their parents will take in a runaway to hide out. They can have an extensive network to stay away for an extended period of time without anyone giving them up. Happens all the time.

I don't think it is what is going on in this particular case, but it would be great if it were. It would be the best possible scenario for Brooke to surface alive and well after being on the run. Not going to happen, I am afraid. :(

[Nugrandma1]

This whole family sounds disgusting. Even the "real"dad allowed his daughter to be with these perverts.

They were on TV talking about her body language. That she had her arms crossed in front of her in a protective stance. She was very very uncomfortable with her uncle.

As for her Mom and Grandma shame on them.

I hope they find her alive but I don't think now this will be a happy ending even though I pray for it.

Watching the local news in Boston and hoping for more information.

[SeriouslySearching]

If my Granddaughter disapeared & I thought one of my son inlaws had done something to her....grrrrrrrrrrrrrr MJ isn't any sicker then her daughter was/ is for believing him.

When she found KY jell / a dildo a dry bath tub & a girl with a towel wrapped around her when she came home early from work / would of did it for me. He'd have had divorce papers by now.I couldn't agree more! He would have been served his walking papers while he was rotting in jail yet again for a mere 4 years, but still...he would have been arrested for it!

I can't imagine how her child felt hiding a "national" secret believing she would be killed if anyone found out. We can't even comprehend the fear he taunted her with and then knowing the mother just "let it go". The girl must have given up completely at that point and resigned herself to be his slave. Horrific!

[dontpanic38]

I have to apologize first if this offends anyone, I am not one to bash a victim or their family, but there are some extremely horrible facts that are becoming apparent each time a new detail emerges in this case.
The facts are confusing, but I don't think Brooke ever stood a chance. It sounds like the abuse is not limited to sexual. Neglect and mental abuse is becoming obvious.
The uncle is clearly a sadist who uses mental sadism on children and the fact that two sex offenders (both convicted, and convicted of assaults that involved some form of force) in one family had access to any children tells me that there is a long history of abuse that most likely started in previous generations....
I understand that signs are missed and hindsight is 20/20 but every person in this family who isn't involved in the crime(s) should seek serious help.

The outcome for Brooke does not look good to me, but if by some miracle she is alive, I pray that she lives every day to not repeat the cycle that is obviously deep in this family.

I have said it before and every day it becomes more and more apparent, but there should be some form of mandatory test for anyone who even thinks about bringing an innocent life into this world. People have given up on personal responsibility and it all falls on the shoulders of the few who actually take life seriously...

Sorry for the rant and really I don't mean any offense to anyone in the family who truly had no idea, but there are others who signs and did nothing because of their own issues. :furious:

[fran]

Not to beat a dead horse, but to show how imparative it is that LE make sure they dot every single I and cross every T.

In the recent Entwistle case, the defense attempted to get the search of the victim' and suspect's home thrown out. Ehh....that would be when LE entered the home on a well-check, at the urging of the victim's family. The suspect was nowhere to be found and the victim hadn't been seen for days. IF a judge had allowed that, any evidence LE found at that time would be inadmissible. That was when police found the victim and her baby daughter lying murdered in their bed and the perp had left them there and taken off for Europe.

I've seen LE arrive at a scene, look through the window and see victims lying on the floor murdered. LE had to wait, sometimes hours and hours, for a judge to sign a SW for them to enter the residence.

The same holds true for any statement made by the perp, if he's even uttered the word 'lawyer,' as in the Jessica Lundsford case. LE KNEW he'd asked for a lawyer, but they kept pushing him for a confession because they thought they'd find Jessica alive. Point is he did confess and led them to the body, but the confession was thrown out and could not be heard at trial because the perp was denied his rights under the Constitution.

I could name case after case I've watched here on WS as an example of the importance of a SW, but I think you get my point.

JMHO
fran

PS......Oh, and a SW is necessary for each invidividual location etc. Home, auto, 2nd auto (if necessary), computer, person, etc..........fran

[luthersmama]

So they think they are getting closer to finding Brooke? I don't know if that is good news or not since they have only been conducting searches on his property and home.

Does it mean the men have been giving up bits of information? The best thing that could happen is to pit the two men against each other and one caves in (which they are probably doing).

SNIP




There were cadaver dogs at Sunset Lake yesterday as well. I think I saw that in one of the newspapers.

[SeriouslySearching]

This whole family sounds disgusting. Even the "real"dad allowed his daughter to be with these perverts.

As for her Mom and Grandma shame on them.I am going to defend her Bio father, Jim, here. He was never married to her mother. They were totally split up by the time Brooke was 16 mos. old. We don't know about the legal agreement they had between them concerning his rights or if they had one at all. He stayed in her life and tried to protect her while he had her under his roof, but he was in no position to dictate to the mom what happened at her home without proof. He did express his concerns many times, but the mother failed to protect her and willingly put Brooke in the care of MJ on a regular basis. While he should have taken further action against the mother in hindsight, if he had lost in court to win custody...he may have lost his daughter to that horrid family then because of the secrets they were hiding. The mother could have simply moved to TX and out of his reach for visits.

The best thing in Brooke's life is her father, step-mother, and half-siblings.

[Chica]

Here is an interesting article with some info I haven't yet seen...please forgive if it has already been posted: July 2 article from Burlington Free Press (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS01/80701028&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL)

Bennett said Gagnon, who broke up with Cassandra Gagnon, Brooke’s mother, four years ago when the couple and Brooke were living in Alabama, had come to Vermont last weekend after learning about Brooke’s disappearance.

“He came because of what’s going on, supposedly to support the family,” Bennett said. Bennett said he and his wife, Ray Gagnon and Cassandra Gagnon went to church together on Sunday to pray for Brooke’s safe return.


ETA link (duh!!)

[fran]

I know family reads here and I've tried to be sensitive to what I've posted in this case. However, I must admit that the officer giving the news brief yesterday made me pause and my heart sink.

When asked, in other words, if any of these new developments are bringing them closer to locating Brooke, he said they are getting closer to Brooke. But, it was the way he said it, the expression on his face, I have a bad feeling as to the final outcome of this search.

JMHO
fran

[SeriouslySearching]

I've seen LE arrive at a scene, look through the window and see victims lying on the floor murdered. LE had to wait, sometimes hours and hours, for a judge to sign a SW for them to enter the residence.

I could name case after case I've watched here on WS as an example of the importance of a SW, but I think you get my point.

JMHO
fran

PS......Oh, and a SW is necessary for each invidividual location etc. Home, auto, 2nd auto (if necessary), computer, person, etc..........franMaybe the answer is to have a judge on call to immediately come to a scene where these things are occurring. SW in hand ready to sign. People should not be laying dead on the floor while LE waits for hours! Something needs to change in the system.

[Nugrandma1]

I agree fran, this family is sick. I don't have any sympathy for them now. They knew the uncle was a pervert and still let him near Brooke and other children shame on them.

[Spazkat9696]

Here it is Spaz: SuziQ posted it on thread #3 thanks again SuziQ!



http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents..._affidavit.pdf (http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf)


Wow thanks everyone for the link. That is truly disturbing. I would have left him the first time I found something on the computer.

[dontpanic38]

I am going to defend her Bio father, Jim, here. He was never married to her mother. They were totally split up by the time Brooke was 16 mos. old. We don't know about the legal agreement they had between them concerning his rights or if they had one at all. He stayed in her life and tried to protect her while he had her under his roof, but he was in no position to dictate to the mom what happened at her home without proof. He did express his concerns many times, but the mother failed to protect her and willingly put Brooke in the care of MJ on a regular basis. While he should have taken further action against the mother in hindsight, if he had lost in court to win custody...he may have lost his daughter to that horrid family then because of the secrets they were hiding. The mother could have simply moved to TX and out of his reach for visits.

The best thing in Brooke's life is her father, step-mother, and half-siblings.


From what I have seen so far, I do have to agree with this. I am watching a friend of mine battle the courts right now for custody of his daughter who he lives and breathes for. The daughter's mother is a complete mess, and her family sounds just as bad.
The standard thinking has always been that the child goes with the mother, Dad pays child support and maybe can visit sometimes and it is tragic when common sense does not prevail as is looking like the case with my friend. Because he is fighting the custody the mother is vowing to make it even more difficult for him (when) she wins....

[SeriouslySearching]

Here is an interesting article with some info I haven't yet seen...please forgive if it has already been posted: July 2 article from Burlington Free Press (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS01/80701028&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL)Thanks for posting as I had not seen this. How difficult for Jim and Janet today to know they were sitting there with the person possibly responsible for their daughter's disappearance! It sends chills down my spine.

Ray sounds like he came home to try to clean up their mess, imo. Makes me wonder if he isn't the real brains behind this nightmare. MJ doesn't look that smart and maybe he called Ray to tell him what he had done. (Or Ray recommended it in the first place) Either way, it sounds like Ray knowingly destroyed evidence which points to his involvement and the reason he came home.

[luthersmama]

I am going to defend her Bio father, Jim, here. He was never married to her mother. They were totally split up by the time Brooke was 16 mos. old. We don't know about the legal agreement they had between them concerning his rights or if they had one at all. He stayed in her life and tried to protect her while he had her under his roof, but he was in no position to dictate to the mom what happened at her home without proof. He did express his concerns many times, but the mother failed to protect her and willingly put Brooke in the care of MJ on a regular basis. While he should have taken further action against the mother in hindsight, if he had lost in court to win custody...he may have lost his daughter to that horrid family then because of the secrets they were hiding. The mother could have simply moved to TX and out of his reach for visits.

The best thing in Brooke's life is her father, step-mother, and half-siblings.


Don't forget that the Dad was in Iraq for awhile as well. Hard to fight for custody if you're in a war.

[Nugrandma1]

Gee when asked her natural father didn't seem at all bothered by the pervert uncle being around Brooke, he said that "it was a long time ago" that he molested the girls. Geez is he that stupid that he would let her go and be with this perverted piece of garbage. He admitted that he knew about the uncle.

[SeriouslySearching]

Don't forget that the Dad was in Iraq for awhile as well. Hard to fight for custody if you're in a war.I read very early on that Jim is also a "constable". Is there any truth to that?

[SeriouslySearching]

Gee when asked her natural father didn't seem at all bothered by the pervert uncle being around Brooke, he said that "it was a long time ago" that he molested the girls. Geez is he that stupid that he would let her go and be with this perverted piece of garbage. He admitted that he knew about the uncle.Nu..yes, he did say that, but I think it was the mother's response to his objections even if he didn't make it clear in his statement, imo. Obviously, you have never been involved in a custody case. You sometimes see one parent who does drugs and wheels men in by the dozen...yet a Judge leaves the child there.

Jim and Janet did question Brooke about MJ on several occassions and she denied anything was going on. They left the door open for her to tell them anything and everything. Brooke never mentioned it.

[Amster]

Gee when asked her natural father didn't seem at all bothered by the pervert uncle being around Brooke, he said that "it was a long time ago" that he molested the girls. Geez is he that stupid that he would let her go and be with this perverted piece of garbage. He admitted that he knew about the uncle.

To be fair, MJ wasn't convicted of "molesting girls". The girl he kidnapped and raped was 18. That's how he got added to the registered sex offender list. I don't know how much JB knew about what MJ was convicted of. But, just the fact that he was a RSO should have been enough to raise Holy hell over Brooke being around him. Sounds like he voiced concerns to Cassandra and decided "it wasn't an issue".....well, yes, it was an ISSUE!

(I just noticed your nic....me too! Isn't it wonderful?)

[CarpeDiem]

There are MANY that run and never go back. I think many would be surprised at how well you can adapt and survive out there at a young age.

At 12 though? That's still so young. I can't imagine. :(

[swanniee11]

I am going to defend her Bio father, Jim, here. He was never married to her mother. They were totally split up by the time Brooke was 16 mos. old. We don't know about the legal agreement they had between them concerning his rights or if they had one at all. He stayed in her life and tried to protect her while he had her under his roof, but he was in no position to dictate to the mom what happened at her home without proof. He did express his concerns many times, but the mother failed to protect her and willingly put Brooke in the care of MJ on a regular basis. While he should have taken further action against the mother in hindsight, if he had lost in court to win custody...he may have lost his daughter to that horrid family then because of the secrets they were hiding. The mother could have simply moved to TX and out of his reach for visits.

The best thing in Brooke's life is her father, step-mother, and half-siblings.
I'm going to disagree on part of this (sorry) but Jim could have at least got a court order that she was not allowed to go to Uncles house to visit cousins, they had to come to her house due to MJ's history. He would have won that. Of course, not knowing that Gagnon was a problem there wasn't much he could do regarding him.

( has anyone found out a history for Gagnon, RSO or whatever?)

[SeriouslySearching]

If a child were 12 yo and had gone through that type of abuse, the child would have matured way beyond their years, imo. You can't use chronological age in such instances.

[jyram]

I read very early on that Jim is also a "constable". Is there any truth to that?

I didn't really know what a constable is, I I wikied it... it had guidelines by state.

Vermont
Constables are generally elected by the town. They are charged with service of process; the destruction of unlicensed or dangerous dogs or wolf-hybrids, and of injured deer; removal of disorderly people from town meetings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Town_meeting); collection of taxes, when no tax collector is elected; and other duties. Constables have full law enforcement authority unless the town votes to either remove the authority or require training before such authority is exercised. Cities and villages may also have constables. Their duties and method of selection are governed by the corporation's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporation) charter.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constable

I remember hearing that he was a constable as well, judging by the definition given by Wikipedia (not the most reliable source, I know), it has a pretty broad job description. It doesn't seem Mr. Bennett would have had much of an inside track into the law enforcement of the city.

[FourWands]

Arraignment scheduled for 2 p.m.
12:25 p.m.
July 2, 2008


U.S. Attorney Thomas Anderson says the initial federal court appearance for Raymond Gagnon, who is charged in connection with the investigation into the disappearance of Brooke Bennett, is set for 2 p.m. in U.S. District Court in Burlington.

From: http://timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/426647461

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm going to disagree on part of this (sorry) but Jim could have at least got a court order that she was not allowed to go to Uncles house to visit cousins, they had to come to her house due to MJ's history. He would have won that. Of course, not knowing that Gagnon was a problem there wasn't much he could do regarding him.

( has anyone found out a history for Gagnon, RSO or whatever?)Yes, he probably could have. It wouldn't have been worth the paper it was printed on if the family packed up and moved to TX, would it? If you think a piece of paper would have stopped MJ and Ray from sexually abusing children, you are mistaken. They would have taken off with all the girls and gone somewhere else. The search for Brooke would have started much earlier and been across the US without much hope of tracking them down.

[Brooks Aunt]

Gee when asked her natural father didn't seem at all bothered by the pervert uncle being around Brooke, he said that "it was a long time ago" that he molested the girls. Geez is he that stupid that he would let her go and be with this perverted piece of garbage. He admitted that he knew about the uncle.

I would also like to express again that Jim was not allowing his child to be there he expressed that he did not want her there at all. He is far from stupid. Things are kept from parents who are not living in the home. Jim is an excellent father.Please srop calling him stupid.

[fran]

I agree fran, this family is sick. I don't have any sympathy for them now. They knew the uncle was a pervert and still let him near Brooke and other children shame on them.

In this day and age, with what is so readily available about sexual abuse and how it's almost of epidemic proportion, you would think that people would be intuned to spotting the signs, if it's happening to someone they know and most especially in their own family. Having said that, I would like to, until we know different, give the family the benefit of the doubt, that they were just naive as to the alleged sexual abuse, so far as has been intimated in this situation.

Being the aunt of a sexually abused child, (this was years and years ago, btw) I had absolutely no clue. But, several years AFTER the abuse had stopped, and because of circumstances at the time, when I found out about the abuse, it was like a lightbulb went off in my head. "Of course," I said to myself, "all the signs were there!"

Do I feel badly that I didn't detect something amiss? You betcha'! It brings tears to my eyes to this day. I sooo would have taken that child in a heart beat and saved her from the emotional turmoil she suffers to this day. But, I was naive and didn't have a clue. That is something I have to live with as well as the damage the victim suffers to this very day.

MOST of us reading here are aware that sexual predators rarely change their spots. But, perhaps these people just didn't know. Until I learn otherwise, I'll be mum on that point.

No matter what the outcome of this case, perhaps it will be a lightening board for people who are in a similar situation, a known (previous) sexual predator within their midst, how they do NOT change, and to be intune to the signs of abuse. Perhaps hundreds if not thousands of children will be prevented from suffering this (silent and humiliating) crime.

JMHO
fran

PS.......I am aware we have not heard IF Brooke has been abused or not, but the fact is there is an abused victim here, AR and TWO alleged sexual predators.....fran

[jyram]

I would also like to express again that Jim was not allowing his child to be there he expressed that he did not want her there at all. He is far from stupid. Things are kept from parents who are not living in the home. Jim is an excellent father.Please srop calling him stupid.

I don't think Jim was being stupid, he raised his objections to Brooke being with MJ and was unable to control much of what was going on when Brooke was not in his custody. Of course, in hindsight I'm sure there are things he would have done differently. Compared to what Brooke's mother and her family have been expressing, Jim and his wife were probably the most stable things in her life.

[SeriouslySearching]

Does anyone know why they are back at Sunset Lake searching? I thought they cleared that area already? Maybe it is because they have more K-9s, but it is interesting.

[fran]

I would also like to express again that Jim was not allowing his child to be there he expressed that he did not want her there at all. He is far from stupid. Things are kept from parents who are not living in the home. Jim is an excellent father.Please srop calling him stupid.

Brooks Aunt:

I know how difficult this must be for you and your family. You are right, it is hard to be a part time parent and at arms length. Not being in the home at all times with the child, it is understandable much went on without Jim even knowing it. I did see where he and his wife talked to Brooke about this situation, and they thought all was well.

Let's just hope they find Brooke soon, well and happy.

Prayers to you and your family for strength at this time,

:blowkiss:
fran

[evelyn24]

Does anyone know why they are back at Sunset Lake searching? I thought they cleared that area already? Maybe it is because they have more K-9s, but it is interesting.

Are they searching today??

[Busylady]

Yes he is a constable not sure what all that involves, from everything I have read he basically says he is an animal control officer and monitors some public event activities.

I know he was in a difficult position with regards to Brooke, however if I was in his shoes I would of moved heaven and earth to make sure my daughter did not spend time with this sex offender. His entire frame of mind of it was a long time ago just doesnt cut it for me. Maybe just maybe had he stood up and fought to protect his daughter she would of felt like someone was in her court, maybe they would of investigaged things then and discovered what was going on with her cousin. To me he is just as guilty of not protecting Brooke as her mother.I read very early on that Jim is also a "constable". Is there any truth to that?

[Brooks Aunt]

Does anyone know why they are back at Sunset Lake searching? I thought they cleared that area already? Maybe it is because they have more K-9s, but it is interesting.

They are searching all areas again closely with the dogs.

[SuziQ]

Brooke Bennett's step-mother comments on Fox vid:

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=1960962&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b 0c12f2749

[swanniee11]

Arraignment scheduled for 2 p.m.
12:25 p.m.
July 2, 2008




U.S. Attorney Thomas Anderson says the initial federal court appearance for Raymond Gagnon, who is charged in connection with the investigation into the disappearance of Brooke Bennett, is set for 2 p.m. in U.S. District Court in Burlington.

From: http://timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/426647461

Thanks for the info

[nanandjim]

Yeah, I don't get why he would let his young daughter be exposed to this dangerous, convicted sex offender. I would have called the police and child welfare and gotten custody of the child or at least tried.

[christine2448]

If a child were 12 yo and had gone through that type of abuse, the child would have matured way beyond their years, imo. You can't use chronological age in such instances.


ITA. fwiw

[pamlet]

I think it's very easy to say what we would have done .. but we weren't in the Dad's shoes ... who knows what all the dynamics involved were...

I hope and pray they find Brooke alive soon..

[Brooks Aunt]

Yes he is a constable not sure what all that involves, from everything I have read he basically says he is an animal control officer and monitors some public event activities.

I know he was in a difficult position with regards to Brooke, however if I was in his shoes I would of moved heaven and earth to make sure my daughter did not spend time with this sex offender. His entire frame of mind of it was a long time ago just doesnt cut it for me. Maybe just maybe had he stood up and fought to protect his daughter she would of felt like someone was in her court, maybe they would of investigaged things then and discovered what was going on with her cousin. To me he is just as guilty of not protecting Brooke as her mother.

Jim has always been there for Brooke. When she was living in Alabama He and Janet went down often to visit and even put their house up for sale at one time to move to Alabama to be closer to her. Then the mother decided to move back to Vermont. Jim and Janet have been very vocal since this case has began. I can tell you that from very early morning till very late at night the media is at their house and they interview all day long. If you want to scold someone how about the mother who is barely seen.

[adnoid]

There are MANY that run and never go back. I think many would be surprised at how well you can adapt and survive out there at a young age.

I now know of a few girls that left home young and are doing OK. I was just this morning talking to the gal I deal with at the dry cleaners and she told me she left home at 13 (she turns 21 later this month). She does not appear to be any different than 20 year olds I know who still live at home.

Unfortunately when she left she moved in with her (older) boyfriend and they moved here from Las Vegas, which is resulting in some trouble now but that's a different story. It's hard to imagine being 20, having been with only 1 person for 8 years and having no experience other than him.

Although I did mention that I knew someone else who left home about that age due to abuse and she got really quiet, which makes me sad. I certainly hate to hear about more of that, I don't understand how anyone can harm a child. I just don't get it.

[SeriouslySearching]

I am going to defend the Bio father and his wife until I see something which raises red flags. So far, I see them as loving parents who only want their daughter home. No doubt they have beaten themselves up repeatedly for not grabbing this child up and not returning her to the situation she was forced into (living with such danger all around her). Mistakes are made by all parents. Cassandra is the one who is ultimately responsible for placing such people around her daughter and perpetuating this scenario.

[christine2448]

It is MHO we can discuss this case and the family members and do it respectfully because we are respectful group of people here. Let's try to refrain from name calling and cussing family members that weren't doing the molesting. We have no idea what this family is going through right now. I have lived this, there were many in the dark.

[cricket]

I am going to defend the Bio father and his wife until I see something which raises red flags. So far, I see them as loving parents who only want their daughter home. No doubt they have beaten themselves up repeatedly for not grabbing this child up and not returning her to the situation she was forced into (living with such danger all around her). Mistakes are made by all parents. Cassandra is the one who is ultimately responsible for placing such people around her daughter and perpetuating this scenario.


well said.

[Amster]

Maybe someday, we'll find out what Cassandra told Jim that convinced him that MJ wasn't an issue.

[SeriouslySearching]

They are searching all areas again closely with the dogs.Thanks, Aunt. Someone had put a link up earlier to that effect and it made me wonder why. More K-9s or is it from a solid lead in the case? It is difficult to know which one to hope for, isn't it? :( Hugs~

[swanniee11]

I think it's very easy to say what we would have done .. but we weren't in the Dad's shoes ... who knows what all the dynamics involved were...

I hope and pray they find Brooke alive soon..

I agree 100% that we don't know all the dynamics and it's easy to say "this is what you should have done" after the fact. I think the reason we are saying this is 1. it scares the He** out of every one of us that this kind of thing not only can happen, it happens and it happens alot. 2nd, How could something like this happen right under the mothers noses and not notice anything and 3rd, when they did notice something they wrote it off, heres where I get mad, place blame and wish someone would have stepped in to advocate these girls. IMO

[angelmom]

Yes he is a constable not sure what all that involves, from everything I have read he basically says he is an animal control officer and monitors some public event activities.

I know he was in a difficult position with regards to Brooke, however if I was in his shoes I would of moved heaven and earth to make sure my daughter did not spend time with this sex offender. His entire frame of mind of it was a long time ago just doesnt cut it for me. Maybe just maybe had he stood up and fought to protect his daughter she would of felt like someone was in her court, maybe they would of investigaged things then and discovered what was going on with her cousin. To me he is just as guilty of not protecting Brooke as her mother.

We don't know that he didn't. It isn't as easy as it sounds to demand that things be done in a marriage, much less when you don't have custody. Every divorced parent I know has issues with what happens at the other parent's house. And for all we know, Brooke did feel strong enough to fight back and say no and tell. For all we know, that's why she's missing. That might be what broke this sex ring case open, although at 12yo she was taking on a big foe. I just think judging dad is a little harsh right now.

Jim has always been there for Brooke. When she was living in Alabama He and Janet went down often to visit and even put their house up for sale at one time to move to Alabama to be closer to her. Then the mother decided to move back to Vermont. Jim and Janet have been very vocal since this case has began. I can tell you that from very early morning till very late at night the media is at their house and they interview all day long. If you want to scold someone how about the mother who is barely seen.

(((BA))) I'm so sorry for your pain. This is why some warned you about reading here - in our passion for the victims, it sometimes gets rough and speculation can be a little "out there." (Remember when some were asking where Laci's sister was that night and speculating about a possible affair with Scott? Ugh!) It sounds like Jim was doing everything he felt able to do. You are right that he has been out front all along while Mom and family have been pretty quiet and acting odd. Prayers with you that Brooke is safely home soon.

[Brooks Aunt]

Thanks, Aunt. Someone had put a link up earlier to that effect and it made me wonder why. More K-9s or is it from a solid lead in the case? It is difficult to know which one to hope for, isn't it? :( Hugs~

It is very difficult. The fact that they do not give the family anymore information then the public. We are however thankful that they are still looking and not giving up.

[SeriouslySearching]

Does anyone know if drugs were involved in Cassandra's side of the family? When BD mentioned "Tim, the drunk" as being around, it made me curious as to what other things were taking place in the home.

[SuziQ]

Grandma and her friends comment disturb me greatly. If this is their attitude while Brooke is missing and maybe dead at the hands of MJ, then how nonchalant were they before the can of worms was opened? All the children in that family have been in a dangerous situation for years and still are.

[Brooks Aunt]

We don't know that he didn't. It isn't as easy as it sounds to demand that things be done in a marriage, much less when you don't have custody. Every divorced parent I know has issues with what happens at the other parent's house. And for all we know, Brooke did feel strong enough to fight back and say no and tell. For all we know, that's why she's missing. That might be what broke this sex ring case open, although at 12yo she was taking on a big foe. I just think judging dad is a little harsh right now.



(((BA))) I'm so sorry for your pain. This is why some warned you about reading here - in our passion for the victims, it sometimes gets rough and speculation can be a little "out there." (Remember when some were asking where Laci's sister was that night and speculating about a possible affair with Scott? Ugh!) It sounds like Jim was doing everything he felt able to do. You are right that he has been out front all along while Mom and family have been pretty quiet and acting odd. Prayers with you that Brooke is safely home soon.

I understand that everyone is voicing their opinion which is normal. I just like to shed some light on the stories. I am on because i get alot of information from you guys and pass it on to Jim and Janet who are not getting this info.

[SeriouslySearching]

It is very difficult. The fact that they do not give the family anymore information then the public. We are however thankful that they are still looking and not giving up.Rest assured they are not going to give up. The lead officer (don't know his name) said that they were going to keep up the pace until it was resolved. He looked very adamant saying it and I believe him. (We don't give up around here either as you can judge by the various cases still ongoing after many years!) :blowkiss:

[cricket]

It is very difficult. The fact that they do not give the family anymore information then the public. We are however thankful that they are still looking and not giving up.

This must be so hard on Jim and his wife.

I was wondering what you know about the story that Brooke told "family members" she was going with a friend to visit someone in the hospital. Did she tell that to only her uncle (the one that's arrested) or did she tell it to other family members? We've all been wondering if it is a story that the uncle made up.

Also - you may have answered this already, but I was wondering how you are related to Brooke? TIA

[swanniee11]

I understand that everyone is voicing their opinion which is normal. I just like to shed some light on the stories. I am on because i get alot of information from you guys and pass it on to Jim and Janet who are not getting this info.

I cant imagine how difficult this is for your family. My prayers are with all of you.

[SeriouslySearching]

Grandma and her friends comment disturb me greatly. If this is their attitude while Brooke is missing and maybe dead at the hands of MJ, then how nonchalant were they before the can of worms was opened? All the children in that family have been in a dangerous situation for years and still are.Makes me wonder why we haven't seen or heard of DCF taking custody of every child in their households or them being put into protective custody by LE. Very strange.

[Brooks Aunt]

This must be so hard on Jim and his wife.

I was wondering what you know about the story that Brooke told "family members" she was going with a friend to visit someone in the hospital. Did she tell that to only her uncle (the one that's arrested) or did she tell it to other family members? We've all been wondering if it is a story that the uncle made up.

Also - you may have answered this already, but I was wondering how you are related to Brooke? TIA

What we have been told was that that was the story the uncle gave the police. I am janets cousin. Her mother is my mothers sister. I have been close with Brooke since she was Two years old.

[fran]

Brooke Bennett's step-mother comments on Fox vid:

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=1960962&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b 0c12f2749

Just listening to Janet's interview tells me a lot about Brooke's dad and step-mom. When she started to choke up, it made me feel so badly for her. This family is hurting badly.

FWIW, the child I knew who was molested, also ran away, rather than telling her mom what had happened. Her five year ordeal of abuse had stopped a few years prior to her running away, however her mom, unknowingly was going to try to make the marriage work. This is what triggered the girl's reaction of running. Fortunately, she was located, she told her mom, and her mom fled with her child.

After watching Brooke, with the uncle, in the convenience store video, it almost looks, to me, that their going in the store, walking out the door, he going one direction, Brooke another, like it was done for the camera.

The uncle didn't even turn to say 'good-bye,' Brooke just bolted the other way. PLUS, Brooke looked protective in her stance at the register behind the uncle. MO, the uncle is the key.

Hope, Brooke is hiding somewhere and will come forward soon.

JMHO
fran

[SeriouslySearching]

Maybe we should get a Mod to change the spelling on your screenname, Aunt. It could lead to people thinking you are not who you say you are. (hint hint Christine.)

[fran]

What we have been told was that that was the story the uncle gave the police. I am janets cousin. Her mother is my mothers sister. I have been close with Brooke since she was Two years old.

Yes, and it was the SAME person who gave LE the clothes.

The uncle knows something, IMO. Hope LE gets him to talk.

JMHO
fran

[cricket]

What we have been told was that that was the story the uncle gave the police. I am janets cousin. Her mother is my mothers sister. I have been close with Brooke since she was Two years old.

Thanks. So it really sounds like the uncle just made up the story, probably so no one would notice she was missing until long after the fact.

[CarpeDiem]

Makes me wonder why we haven't seen or heard of DCF taking custody of every child in their households or them being put into protective custody by LE. Very strange.

Perhaps because they are protecting the identity of the kid's, trying to give them a small amount of privacy and a chance to recover from this.

[christine2448]

Yes, and it was the SAME person who gave LE the clothes.

The uncle knows something, IMO. Hope LE gets him to talk.

JMHO
fran

Remind me his charges, or do we know yet? What's he facin'....that will play into whether he will talk or not :bang:

[swanniee11]

I reread this and missed something: MJ told AR that if she didnt do these things that they would kill her mother while she was on a business trip? God, I hope Brooke ran!

http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf

[Sleuthster]

What is Ray Gagnon's middle name???

[SuziQ]

http://www.sentinelsource.com/main.asp?SectionID=31&SubSectionID=37&ArticleID=192728

(snips)
Asked Tuesday at a news conference if the arrests of Jacques and Gagnon are leading police closer to finding Bennett, Col. James Baker, director of the Vermont State Police, said, "I believe they are." He declined to elaborate.
Baker also said a sex charge against Gagnon could be filed later.
"That is still sitting out there," he said.

Tuesday night, FBI agents and members of the Vermont State Police were seen searching near a sugarhouse in the woods about a mile from the Jacques home. Authorities on the scene declined to comment.

[Busylady]

Ray Gagnon is no longer listed as an inmate? Is that because they are moving him for the arraignment today?

[fran]

Remind me his charges, or do we know yet? What's he facin'....that will play into whether he will talk or not :bang:

Right off hand I believe it's sexual abuse charges against someone 'other than' Brooke, AR and he's facing LIFE.

From what I recall from yesterday, it was the uncle who gave up the former step dad.

JMHO
fran

[cricket]

Brooke's aunt,

I was wondering where you are in relation to Jim and Janet. Do you live in the same area? Are you helping with the search? Also - do you know what Brooke's mom told or Janet about the fact that her uncle by marriage is a sex offender?

I'm just wondering, not trying to blame Jim for anything. I'm divorced and have been on both sides of the custody issue - and I know how hard it is when you are not the parent with primary custody to be able to do anything about how the parent who has primary custody parents the child. My ex caught my youngest son several times with drugs and never even took the car keys away from him. He gave him NO consequences for his behavior and unfortunately, my son learned the hard way that bad behavior does have consequences.

[fran]

Thanks. So it really sounds like the uncle just made up the story, probably so no one would notice she was missing until long after the fact.

That's exactly what happened cricket. She was gone for twelve hours before LE was contacted.

JMHO
fran

PS......wonder if the uncle went to work directly from dropping Brooke off and how long he was there?:confused:

[swanniee11]

Right off hand I believe it's sexual abuse charges against someone 'other than' Brooke, AR and he's facing LIFE.

From what I recall from yesterday, it was the uncle who gave up the former step dad.

JMHO
fran


I didn't hear that? Where did you? ( not saying you didnt but I missed something). I thought Gagnon was charged because of what they found on that computer and that he destroyed evidence, besides the sex charge that will come after the federal charges.

[CarpeDiem]

I reread this and missed something: MJ told AR that if she didnt do these things that they would kill her mother while she was on a business trip? God, I hope Brooke ran!

http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf

When I read that the first time it was really shocking, still is. And the girl is now 14, will turn 15 in October. When you read the things that were said to her, that she believed and went along with (until early June), I go back to what I said earlier, it blows my mind someone of 12, 13, 14 can survive on the streets. Sexually and physically perhaps mature, but not mentally or emotionally. For this girl, that seemed to stop at age 9 when her nightmare really began.

[swanniee11]

is Gagnons appearance going to be on tv?

[CarpeDiem]

That's exactly what happened cricket. She was gone for twelve hours before LE was contacted.



Yes, and that is a LONG time. She wasn't reported missing until the last possible moment when visiting hours with this fake friend would have been over.

[Brooks Aunt]

Brooke's aunt,

I was wondering where you are in relation to Jim and Janet. Do you live in the same area? Are you helping with the search? Also - do you know what Brooke's mom told or Janet about the fact that her uncle by marriage is a sex offender?

I'm just wondering, not trying to blame Jim for anything. I'm divorced and have been on both sides of the custody issue - and I know how hard it is when you are not the parent with primary custody to be able to do anything about how the parent who has primary custody parents the child. My ex caught my youngest son several times with drugs and never even took the car keys away from him. He gave him NO consequences for his behavior and unfortunately, my son learned the hard way that bad behavior does have consequences.

I live in Connecticut. I am not involved in the search i have two young children who are close to brooke and do not understand what is going on so for now we are staying put. I dont know however how long i am going to be able to do that.

[SuziQ]

I didn't hear that? Where did you? ( not saying you didnt but I missed something). I thought Gagnon was charged because of what they found on that computer and that he destroyed evidence, besides the sex charge that will come after the federal charges.

That is correct. The state sex charges are still pending and may come later.

[SuziQ]

Yes, and that is a LONG time. She wasn't reported missing until the last possible moment when visiting hours with this fake friend would have been over.

And at that they still didn't want to report it. A friend had to convince them and make that call.

[cricket]

I live in Connecticut. I am not involved in the search i have two young children who are close to brooke and do not understand what is going on so for now we are staying put. I dont know however how long i am going to be able to do that.

My heart goes out to you and Jim and Janet's families. I realize that you must be clinging to the hope that this will turn out OK. At this point, it would be wonderful if it turned out she did meet up with someone she met online and that person isn't connected to her uncle or stepfather. In my area, we've had two cases in the last couple of months where teen girls ran off with people they met online; thankfully, both came back alive.

[Brooks Aunt]

My heart goes out to you and Jim and Janet's families. I realize that you must be clinging to the hope that this will turn out OK. At this point, it would be wonderful if it turned out she did meet up with someone she met online and that person isn't connected to her uncle or stepfather. In my area, we've had two cases in the last couple of months where teen girls ran off with people they met online; thankfully, both came back alive.

Thank you thats what we are hoping for.

[SuziQ]

is Gag (nons) appearance going to be on tv?

I don't see any live links.

[cricket]

I don't see any live links.


Today's arraignment is for the federal charges and I don't think the feds allow cameras in.

[SuziQ]

While POS Gagnon was in Vermont destroying evidence he took the time to show support for the Brooke. He's diabolical. Feds in San Antonio are investigating Gagnon.

http://www.vnews.com/07022008/4932399.htm

(snip)
James Bennett said Gagnon attended a church service with him and other family members on Sunday at Green Mountain Gospel Chapel in Randolph.
“He reached out to me,” James Bennett said.
A woman who answered the phone at Gagnon's residence in San Antonio but declined to give her name said Gagnon had moved in with her and her boyfriend about a year ago. She said Gagnon worked as an engineer in the city.
“He was very shocked, and he was upset that (Brooke) was missing,” the woman said.
Eric Vasys, a spokesman for the FBI, said federal authorities in San Antonio are “assisting (investigators in Vermont) with inquiries in San Antonio.”

[SuziQ]

Today's arraignment is for the federal charges and I don't think the feds allow cameras in.

And I doubt we'll ever see the charging docs either. All we'll get is a mugshot if we are lucky.

[Amster]

Is that his pic on Fox?

[swanniee11]

Is that his pic on Fox?


I don't see a pic on Fox however there is a guy who is being charged with 8 murders, I woke this morning and saw his face without hearing who it was and thought it might be Gag. No such luck.

[swanniee11]

fox new: After dropping MJ off he brought her back to the house for sex. Waiting on more info

[barb0301]

FOX says federal indictment unsealed, says Brooke's uncle brought her back tohouse for sex

[Amster]

OMG....Oh no!!

[cheko1]

I couldn't agree more! He would have been served his walking papers while he was rotting in jail yet again for a mere 4 years, but still...he would have been arrested for it!

I can't imagine how her child felt hiding a "national" secret believing she would be killed if anyone found out. We can't even comprehend the fear he taunted her with and then knowing the mother just "let it go". The girl must have given up completely at that point and resigned herself to be his slave. Horrific!

Sick in the head if you ask me!!!
The fear the girl lived with daily & nobody caring. Far as I'm concerned they don't deserve to have any kids in that kind of environment.

[chicoliving]

Federal affidavit has just been released. The uncle took Brooke back to his home for sex.

On Fox News Channel right now. They will be back with more.

[cheko1]

Thank you Cheko :blowkiss: for bringing that forward. I was looking for it earlier.


Your welcome!

[Amster]

This is so horrible....they found Brookes clothes at the house??

[barb0301]

Don't know if this has been posted, apologize if it has. The partial address listed is VERY close to me, trying to find out more.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA.070208.1B.GAGNON.3c7c32e.html

[Liz]

Just heard that, Chico! What about the cousin that was with Uncle Perv?

[swanniee11]

ok, what does this mean, its a federal affidavit, would this be the one against Gag? Why would it be on Gags papers about MJ. Someone talked. IMO

[cricket]

Federal affidavit has just been released. The uncle took Brooke back to his home for sex.

On Fox News Channel right now. They will be back with more.

I'm confused. Are there now federal charges against the uncle? In addition to the federal charges on the step father?

Also - does anyone know what a "sugarhouse" is? The article referenced in an earlier post says they are searching a "sugarhouse in the woods" that is about a mile from the uncle's property.

[Amster]

After he dropped her off he got her and brought her to his house? And, nobody saw this? Was the cousin with them??

[SeriouslySearching]

Federal affidavit has just been released. The uncle took Brooke back to his home for sex.

On Fox News Channel right now. They will be back with more.Just saw that on Fox myself and dove for the computer. OMG! :furious::furious::furious:

I guess that clarifies if Brooke had been abused. :( Now the case has taken a real downward spiral, I am afraid.

[swanniee11]

This is so horrible....they found Brookes clothes at the house??


Well, she did spend the night, she should have had clothes there, tooth brush etc since she didnt have a bag with her in the store. She may have thought she was meeting someone then going back to cousins house. Who knows what was told to her.

[chicoliving]

I'm confused. Are there now federal charges against the uncle? In addition to the federal charges on the step father?

Also - does anyone know what a "sugarhouse" is? The article referenced in an earlier post says they are searching a "sugarhouse in the woods" that is about a mile from the uncle's property.

It was breaking news, it may have just been the wording because it made me pause too.

[oceanblueeyes]

Just heard that, Chico! What about the cousin that was with Uncle Perv?

I think Brooke probably told him she was going to tell on him.

He could not let her do that.

I think he thought that AR had become to old now so he concentrated on Brooke as his next victim.

Oh my heart is just sinking for Brooke.

I can hardly stand to hear all of it.

imoo

[christine2448]

http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#305539aa,2008-07-02

AP: Fed affidavit: Uncle brought missing VT girl to his home (http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#305539aa,2008-07-02)

BC-VT--APNewsAlert,0018 BURLINGTON, Vt. (A...(read story) (http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#305539aa,2008-07-02)

[Amster]

The way Brooke looked in the video....I think something happened the night before...

[SuziQ]

http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#305539aa,2008-07-02

AP: Fed affidavit: Uncle brought missing VT girl to his home (http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#305539aa,2008-07-02)

BC-VT--APNewsAlert,0018 BURLINGTON, Vt. (A...(read story) (http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/index.html#305539aa,2008-07-02)

Thanks! Sounds like the info came from the cousin who saw this.

[SeriouslySearching]

Another teenage girl admitted she helped the uncle drop the girl off and get her back to his house for sex. (Just said it on Fox and is on the affidavit.)

ETA: This must be the cousin, imo.

[Amster]

OMG....cousin helped uncle creepy....now, I'm crying.

[Rino]

That poor girl...

[swanniee11]

Did I just here that AR helped get Brooke back to the house for sex?

[dontpanic38]

We don't know that he didn't. It isn't as easy as it sounds to demand that things be done in a marriage, much less when you don't have custody. Every divorced parent I know has issues with what happens at the other parent's house. And for all we know, Brooke did feel strong enough to fight back and say no and tell. For all we know, that's why she's missing. That might be what broke this sex ring case open, although at 12yo she was taking on a big foe. I just think judging dad is a little harsh right now.


That is a great point. Something to keep in mind with custody and marriage cases (especially where there is abuse in some form) that things get ugly and the Dad may have done everything in his power and resources to keep everything safe and peaceful.
In my earlier post I said that one of my friends is going through a nasty divorce and custody battle and the sad fact of the matter is that the mother will in all likelyhood win custody and he will have to suffer around that fact. She is a terrible person altogether, and the idea that she will be free to poison the mind of an innocent child is horrible. It happens all the time, I grew up in almost the exact same situation. My mother was abusive, alcoholic and completely unstable. I grew up hearing terrible things about my father and believed them for a long time. It was not until I watched the chaos that she brought upon herself and her own children by proxy that I got out and was lucky enough to have relatives that helped me.
Everything boiled down to the fact that neither of my parents should have reproduced. My Dad was a good person who spent his life doing anything he could for us. He was hardly able to support himself, but was always there when I needed him.
My sister is still filled with the poison that was put in her head her whole life and does not understand why I have "turned my back" on my family...

Sorry for the life story, but I feel strongly that there are adults who most likely will not be charged after all is said and done, but that does not mean that they are not guilty of terrible things.
Brooke's Dad is the only person I have heard about that makes me think that Brooke even stood half a chance in life and that makes the whole thing even more heartbreaking. I really hope that there are people who understand that the sexual abuse is a fraction of the evil that has been commited.

[SeriouslySearching]

Did I just here that AR helped get Brooke back to the house for sex?Not confirmed it was AR...but yes.

[cricket]

Thanks! Sounds like the info came from the cousin who saw this.


on Fox news right now they are saying that a teenage girl admitted to helping the uncle bring Brooke back to the house. I'm guessing that this is the cousin.

[Amster]

Did I just here that AR helped get Brooke back to the house for sex?

yes....

[VTGirl81]

Did I just here that AR helped get Brooke back to the house for sex?

I have been following this since it started, as it is in my neck of the woods. I was finally just activated to speak on the site.

Anyway, I think that we can assume that AR was threatened into doing this, as I doubt she ever would it done it without that threat. How sad. She must be feeling terrible right now. But something tells me she knows me that she is scared to tell.

[beth272]

I am new at posting on WS but I have been reading for about 3 weeks now. I have been following Brooke's case since the beginning...I about threw up when I just that he brought her back to the house for sex...this is just heart wrenching...I have no words, I hope and pray that she is ok

[oceanblueeyes]

Another teenage girl admitted she helped the uncle drop the girl off and get her back to his house for sex. (Just said it on Fox and is on the affidavit.)

ETA: This must be the cousin, imo.

He probably threatened the other girl with death threats if she didn't do it.

This is sooooooooo awful.

imo

[SuziQ]

http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/452801687

Federal court papers released this afternoon reveal that a juvenile who claims to have been in the car when missing 12-year-old Brooke Bennett was dropped off at a Randolph convenience store last week told authorities that Bennett and her uncle, convicted sex offender Michael Jacques, spent time together that afternoon after Bennett's supposed disappearance and that Jacques told the juvenile that Bennett would be having sex with adult men.
(more at link)

[SeriouslySearching]

I recall mentioning that possibility as happened in the Hornbeck case where one helped the perp to access others. Sounds like it is exactly what happened.

[CarpeDiem]

Oh no. I'm just floored. What a kick in the gut this news is.

[SeriouslySearching]

Welcome to WS, Beth and VTGirl. Sorry it has to be under such circumstances. This is a truly troubling development.

[oceanblueeyes]

http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/452801687

Federal court papers released this afternoon reveal that a juvenile who claims to have been in the car when missing 12-year-old Brooke Bennett was dropped off at a Randolph convenience store last week told authorities that Bennett and her uncle, convicted sex offender Michael Jacques, spent time together that afternoon after Bennett's supposed disappearance and that Jacques told the juvenile that Bennett would be having sex with adult men.
(more at link)

I am going to be sick.

"Jacques told the juvenile that Bennett would be having sex with adult men."

[SuziQ]

Something bad happened upstairs and MJ told AR to leave:
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/452801687

(snip)
The juvenile said she, Jacques and Bennett returned to Jacques' Randolph Center home, and the two girls watched television for a while. She said Jacques eventually asked Bennett to go upstairs, and then told the juvenile to leave the home. She was driven away by a juvenile boy, she said, and never saw Bennett again.

The juvenile said Jacques told her to lie about the incident.

[SeriouslySearching]

The latest revelations in the case are contained in an affidavit charging Bennett's former stepfather, Ray Gagnon of San Antonio, with obstruction of justice for destroying evidence in a separate case, which involves the alleged sexual assault on a minor in the Royalton area in 2007. In the affidavit, authorities allege that Gagnon admitted to having vast amounts of child pornography on his computer, then asking his landlord in Texas to destroy some of the material.

But relating to the Bennett disappearance, the juvenile said she and Jacques dropped Bennett off at the convenience store in Randolph on Wednesday morning, but planned to pick her up a short time later. The juvenile said Bennett was told she would be going to "party."

The juvenile cited in the affidavit said Jacques told her that Bennett would be taken into the Breckenridge that day, referring to what has been described as a possible Internet sex ring to lure underaged girls, and that Bennett would be having sex with adult males.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/452801687

[Hobo]

I live in Connecticut. I am not involved in the search i have two young children who are close to brooke and do not understand what is going on so for now we are staying put. I dont know however how long i am going to be able to do that.

How far do you live from Brooke? and how often would you get to see her?.

I hope she is found soon .

[Busylady]

The latest revelations in the case are contained in an affidavit charging Bennett's former stepfather, Ray Gagnon of San Antonio, with obstruction of justice for destroying evidence in a separate case, which involves the alleged sexual assault on a minor in the Royalton area in 2007. In the affidavit, authorities allege that Gagnon admitted to having vast amounts of child pornography on his computer, then asking his landlord in Texas to destroy some of the material.

http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/452801687

[SuziQ]

Gagnon affidavit

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11201072.PDF

[ella's mom]

OMG. Thank you to all for sharing the news as it comes on. I could not get by a tv. Thank goodness for the computer.

I certainly hope the family was made aware of all of this before it was mentioned in the media. I would hate to hear something like this on the news.

I wonder if AR was made to bring her back as part of her "training." Brooke was not ok with it and they had to get "rid" of her. I have a feeling LE has known about this since they first interviewed A.R. I bet her statement is the reason they are searching river.

I am surprised he let A.R. go.

[cricket]

Something bad happened upstairs and MJ told AR to leave:
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/452801687

(snip)
The juvenile said she, Jacques and Bennett returned to Jacques' Randolph Center home, and the two girls watched television for a while. She said Jacques eventually asked Bennett to go upstairs, and then told the juvenile to leave the home. She was driven away by a juvenile boy, she said, and never saw Bennett again.

The juvenile said Jacques told her to lie about the incident.


That poor girl, what she has gone through is horrible.

From that article, it sounds like Brooke's step father asked someone in TX to delete child porn he had on his computer - it might not have been related to Brooke.

[SuziQ]

FBI: Uncle planned sex ring initation for Brooke Bennett

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS01/80701028

[Amster]

So...who is the teenage boy who A.R. left with? I have no words....

[SuziQ]

thread is moving fast. Bump

Gagnon affidavit

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11201072.PDF

[murdershewrote]

my guess is that Brooke had never engaged in anything like this before (with multiple men) and when she got there, she resisted and then either she ran or something terrible happened. The fact that her clothing was found doesn't look good. LE needs to find out who these other participants (I can't call them men...they are animals not men) are and haul them into jail for attempted rape of a minor as well. Where was the cousin while all this was going on?

OK, after reading affidavit, I see that cousin left the house (if that is true)...she's lied so many times...who knows if what she is saying now is true or not.

[luthersmama]

I'm confused. Are there now federal charges against the uncle? In addition to the federal charges on the step father?

Also - does anyone know what a "sugarhouse" is? The article referenced in an earlier post says they are searching a "sugarhouse in the woods" that is about a mile from the uncle's property.

LOL!

A "sugarhouse" is simply a building where maple sap is boiled down to make maple syrup. They are all over the place in New England and upstate NY. They contain a heat source - used to be wood, now they might be gas - and big pans that the sap is cooked in.

Nothing sexual about them.

[CarpeDiem]

Did I just here that AR helped get Brooke back to the house for sex?

You heard it at the same time Brooke's Dad did. Is that horrible or what. Why not one person in LE couldn't tell her Dad this news was coming, that he had to hear it from a reporter at the same moment the rest of the world is, is wrong in every way.

[adnoid]

is Gagnons appearance going to be on tv?

I edited your post. There are almost certainly family members with this name that are not involved. We'll leave the innocent family out of this. Does everyone understand?

[FourWands]

I'm confused. Are there now federal charges against the uncle? In addition to the federal charges on the step father?

Also - does anyone know what a "sugarhouse" is? The article referenced in an earlier post says they are searching a "sugarhouse in the woods" that is about a mile from the uncle's property.

Sorry if this was answered earlier and I missed it.
A sugarhouse is where they make maple syrup. It's a place where they basically run the fire and condense the sap. Usually a relatively small building.

[angelmom]

Gagnon affidavit

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11201072.PDF


Reading this is enough to make anyone ill. No wonder LE looks so grim when talking about getting close to finding Brooke. Is there really still hope? Where is she???

:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

[swanniee11]

I am going to be sick.

"Jacques told the juvenile that Bennett would be having sex with adult men."


This is just sick! I feel so awful for both girls. I hope they are talking to the boy who drove AR away as well. This doesnt sound good at all. This may be why AR was no longer being molested, MJ got her to work for him in exchange for stopping the molesting. I hope that AR feels safe enough to tell ALL. This is just heartbreaking!

[swanniee11]

LOL!

A "sugarhouse" is simply a building where maple sap is boiled down to make maple syrup. They are all over the place in New England and upstate NY. They contain a heat source - used to be wood, now they might be gas - and big pans that the sap is cooked in.

Nothing sexual about them.


Do they know if its been used recently?( I"m so sorry "brookes Aunt" to ask this.)

[angelwngs]

Something bad happened upstairs and MJ told AR to leave:
http://www.rutlandherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS/452801687

(snip)
The juvenile said she, Jacques and Bennett returned to Jacques' Randolph Center home, and the two girls watched television for a while. She said Jacques eventually asked Bennett to go upstairs, and then told the juvenile to leave the home. She was driven away by a juvenile boy, she said, and never saw Bennett again.

The juvenile said Jacques told her to lie about the incident.

Oh, Dear Lord! This is horrible!

Maybe, just maybe, afther this ordeal, Brooke bolted hysterically and from the home and ran... Maybe she is out there somewhere...waiting for someone to help her... I am still praying that she will be found alive and brought to safety.

[SeriouslySearching]

If you have not read the affidavit, please do: http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11201072.PDF

It answers a lot of questions. (WARNING: Graphic Content)

[cheko1]

Jim has always been there for Brooke. When she was living in Alabama He and Janet went down often to visit and even put their house up for sale at one time to move to Alabama to be closer to her. Then the mother decided to move back to Vermont. Jim and Janet have been very vocal since this case has began. I can tell you that from very early morning till very late at night the media is at their house and they interview all day long. If you want to scold someone how about the mother who is barely seen.


I for one have already stated what I think of the mother & her family.
They make me sick! My heart breaks for poor Brooke....nobody should ever have to live with that kind of abuse...NOBODY!

I am sure the media is camping on Jim & Janet's lawn. I am very glad they're cooperating with LE & keeping this in the media.

Please realize many here have been sexually abused as kids, also by family members. We know the hurt & pain these young girls go thru. Not only that but you feel violated & unworthy of any type of love. You realize you can't depend on your parents to save you. Its like being thrown out to vultures. Brooke wasn't protected, she was thrown to a RSO, now the stepdad is also behind bars......so what has she honestly been through?

[FourWands]

Sugaring season is in late March... Unlikely it's been used since.

[Busylady]

So Gagnon also abused A.R. Also am I understanding this right Gagnon had photos of A.R. and her minor boyfriend engaging in sexual activites on his computer?

[SeriouslySearching]

Ray Gagnon has been in this from the beginning. He admitted having child porn of kids as young as 5 yo. He said he still has photos of "Juvenile 1" having sex with her minor boyfriend (I assume the one she left with which means he has been involved in this).

[SeriouslySearching]

So Gagnon also abused A.R. Also am I understanding this right Gagnon had photos of A.R. and her minor boyfriend engaging in sexual activites on his computer?If you read the affidavit, it clearly states that Gagnon AND MJ had sex with Juvenile 1 at the same time.

[angelmom]

So Gagnon also abused A.R. Also am I understanding this right Gagnon had photos of A.R. and her minor boyfriend engaging in sexual activites on his computer?

Yes, as well as many other images including children as young as 5yo.

May he rot in hell.:furious:

[tamfish]

This case is about to be blown wide open. How much you wanna bet that all those phone calls between Jaques and Gagnon, immediately after Brooke went missing, were about disposing of a body?

I'd love to have some hope..... but I'm afraid it is all pointing to a bad end. I have a feeling Jaques is going to lead LE to her remains soon.

I can't diss Brooke's father -- I'm sure he's going to be kicking himself over and over again in the coming months for what he could have/should have done.

[Spazkat9696]

I just heard the news about AR being forced to be a part of this whole thing and it makes me sick. Unfortunately I'm pretty sure Brooke was a victim of foul play at the hands of her uncle. I just hope he didn't make his daughter, AR, participate in the murder or disposal of Brooke's body. How horrible.

[SuziQ]

IMO, Brooke didn't willing go along with the "plan" and was killed because of that.

[SeriouslySearching]

If you have not read the affidavit, please do: http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11201072.PDF

It answers a lot of questions. (WARNING: Graphic Content)This explains SO much of what was actually going on and where they are in the case.

[Amster]

Stupid friend of GAGnon in Texas says he figured the safe contained child porn but he dumped it for GAGnon, anyway.

[Sassygerl]

This explains SO much of what was actually going on and where they are in the case.

I can't get the affidavit to load....anyone else having this problem?

[Spazkat9696]

Making AR help him get Brooke to come home with him after he dropped her off to have sex is disgusting. I wish VT had the death penalty.

[ella's mom]

Ray Gagnon has been in this from the beginning. He admitted having child porn of kids as young as 5 yo. He said he still has photos of "Juvenile 1" having sex with her minor boyfriend (I assume the one she left with which means he has been involved in this).

I don't think it's fair to assume the boyfriend knows anything about this. He may have just asked Juvenile 1 to leave with the boyfriend.

The pictures of them together could have been ones Uncle took without boyfriend knowing, or who knows uncle may have told her to take them as part of her "training" (with a camera timer). I am having a hard time imaging a young girl telling her boyfriend she is being abused by an adult and boyfriend is ok with it.

JMO

[SuziQ]

Stupid friend of GAGnon in Texas says he figured the safe contained child porn but he dumped it for GAGnon, anyway.

Who would assume someone has child porn stashed in a safe? IMO, the friend KNEW what was in there.

[cricket]

This is just making me sick. I hate to say it, but I think they are searching for Brooke's body. There is probably no chance she is still alive.

[SeriouslySearching]

Stupid friend of GAGnon in Texas says he figured the safe contained child porn but he dumped it for GAGnon, anyway.He is going to pay dearly for it, too...as soon as they find it with his fingerprints all over it. I have NO doubt he knew what was going on long before that phone call to get rid of it. (Probaby one of the men giving directions via internet and phone, imo)