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christine2448
07-02-2008, 05:40 PM
Please continue here.


Links to previous and similar threads can be found at the very bottom of the page.


From Previous thread:

Gagnon affidavit

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...BT11201072.PDF (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...BT11201072.PDF)

New article with artist's sketch of Gagnon

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8610899

swanniee11
07-02-2008, 05:45 PM
I agree, nobody should be attacking the kids in this, keep in mind that AR has been under MJ's spell since she was approx 9yrs old. She has been abused as well.

cheko1
07-02-2008, 05:45 PM
I hope & pray neither of the filthy scums of the earth live long enough to make it to trial. :furious::furious:

For as far as Denise, mom & Granny dearest they all need put away right along with there beloved men! Sorry I needed to vent!!!!

Lets hope & pray they find Brooke soon!!!!

englishleigh
07-02-2008, 05:46 PM
Just got home from work. Anything new?

angelmom
07-02-2008, 05:47 PM
Just got home from work. Anything new?

How long do you have?

Find a link with the affadavit and read it. That and a bunch of :eek::eek::eek: sums it up.

Let me look for you.

christine2448
07-02-2008, 05:48 PM
I agree, nobody should be attacking the kids in this, keep in mind that AR has been under MJ's spell since she was approx 9yrs old. She has been abused as well.

In the U.S. District Court affidavit, the teen told agents she herself had been having sex with Jacques, 42, since she was 9 in a sex ring called Breckinridge. (http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8610899)

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 05:48 PM
Just got home from work. Anything new?

If you haven't read this:

Gagnon affidavit

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...BT11201072.PDF (http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...BT11201072.PDF)

gaia227
07-02-2008, 05:48 PM
I'm sorry but I could not open the link which had the comments made by the g-ma and mother.....what did they say that made everyone so ticked? I have a pretty good idea but would like to know for sure what they said. Thanks.

gaia227
07-02-2008, 05:49 PM
I'm sorry but I could not open the link which had the comments made by the g-ma and mother.....what did they say that made everyone so ticked? I have a pretty good idea but would like to know for sure what they said. Thanks.

luthersmama
07-02-2008, 05:50 PM
"State Police postponed an afternoon news conference scheduled for 4 p.m. at Whitcomb High School in Bethel. They have undertaken an intensive search of a location off Crocker Road, near Kingsbury Brook, on the Bethel-Randolph town line."


I'm having technical difficulties. That article is in the Burlington Free Press. Can't make a link work.

jnodrog
07-02-2008, 05:57 PM
"State Police postponed an afternoon news conference scheduled for 4 p.m. at Whitcomb High School in Bethel. They have undertaken an intensive search of a location off Crocker Road, near Kingsbury Brook, on the Bethel-Randolph town line."


I'm having technical difficulties. That article is in the Burlington Free Press. Can't make a link work.
This isnt good that road is right straight out south of his home.

and headed towards his work direction.
but on back rd

Allen

Leila
07-02-2008, 05:59 PM
Just got home from work. Anything new?

Go to the first post on this page and click on "Gagnon Affidavit." This affidavit is 10 pages long and is a detailed account about what actually happened to Brooke on the day she disappeared.

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 06:01 PM
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS01/80701028

(snip)
State Police postponed an afternoon news conference scheduled for 4 p.m. at Whitcomb High School in Bethel. They have undertaken an intensive search of a location off Crocker Road, near Kingsbury Brook, on the Bethel-Randolph town line.

beth272
07-02-2008, 06:01 PM
"State Police postponed an afternoon news conference scheduled for 4 p.m. at Whitcomb High School in Bethel. They have undertaken an intensive search of a location off Crocker Road, near Kingsbury Brook, on the Bethel-Randolph town line."


I'm having technical difficulties. That article is in the Burlington Free Press. Can't make a link work.


This is just awful...

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 06:01 PM
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11201072.PDF

Gagnon affidavit

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 06:03 PM
Gagnon did not enter a plea and he will go back to court on monday.
Also there is intense searching going on right now on Crocker road (sp) They are searching the sugar house. Roads are blocked.
Forensics are at the Jacques home now also.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

FourWands
07-02-2008, 06:04 PM
Aerial photo of the area being searched now:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%22Crocker+Road%22+Randolph,+VT&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.880634,-72.590275&spn=0.012033,0.026608&t=h&z=15 (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=%22Crocker+Road%22+Randolph,+VT&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.880634,-72.590275&spn=0.012033,0.026608&t=h&z=15)

Leila
07-02-2008, 06:04 PM
This isnt good that road is right straight out south of his home.

and headed towards his work direction.
but on back rd

Allen

After reading the affidavit of Ray Gagnon, I have a sick, terrible, feeling about this case. I'm no longer optimistic that Brooke is alive. :(

jnodrog
07-02-2008, 06:04 PM
They have the rd closed per WPTZ tv

There is a sugarhouse near there
maybe shes just tied up

Praying

Allen

nanandjim
07-02-2008, 06:04 PM
Just got home from work. Anything new?
This affidavit posted by SuzQ says it all.

Gagnon affidavit

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...BT11201072.PDF

I now only wonder which one killed her...Gagnon or Jacques.

I also want to add that I feel really sorry for AR. Her life has to be ruined. To sexualize this young child and to force her to engage in all sorts of sexual acts with adult men and take photos and also take photos of a boyfriend and her engaged in sex is just sick. I wonder if she can be helped. What the he!! is wrong with her mother??

ella's mom
07-02-2008, 06:06 PM
This isnt good that road is right straight out south of his home.

and headed towards his work direction.
but on back rd

Allen
do we know if this is a stucture, wooded area, type of water, etc?

ETA: Nevermind - looks like wooded area>
is that where sugarhouse is?

Taximom
07-02-2008, 06:08 PM
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11201072.PDF

Gagnon affidavit

All that makes me so sick and furious. That poor relative, who is already going to have problems from the sexual abuse, is not going to heal well from aiding (innocently I mean) in Brooke's disappearance (and probably death).

rccook555
07-02-2008, 06:08 PM
Just got home and trying to catch up. I am at a loss for words. Praying this precious little girl is found safe very soon.

FourWands
07-02-2008, 06:09 PM
A lot of times sugarhouses are in the woods... Then again, I've seen some out in the open too...

evelyn24
07-02-2008, 06:10 PM
Gagnon did not enter a plea and he will go back to court on monday.
Also there is intense searching going on right now on Crocker road (sp) They are searching the sugar house. Roads are blocked.
Forensics are at the Jacques home now also.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

*sick stomach *

This info combined with the spotting of Jim and Janet going into the police station makes me nervous.

Carrington
07-02-2008, 06:10 PM
Law enforcement has cordoned off Crocker Road in Randolph -- near the home of Brooke's uncle, the investigation's lead suspect -- and canceled a news conference for this afternoon. A neighbor said the search is focused on a sugarhouse off Crocker Road.
http://sitelife.burlingtonfreepress.com/ver1.0/Direct/Process?sid=sitelife.burlingtonfreepress.com


This shouldn't take long......

nanandjim
07-02-2008, 06:10 PM
What is a sugarhouse??

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:10 PM
Gagnon did not enter a plea and he will go back to court on monday.
Also there is intense searching going on right now on Crocker road (sp) They are searching the sugar house. Roads are blocked.
Forensics are at the Jacques home now also.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Thank you for the update, DS! I don't know what we would do here without you. :clap:

Leila
07-02-2008, 06:12 PM
They have the rd closed per WPTZ tv

There is a sugarhouse near there
maybe shes just tied up

Praying

Allen

Do you know where the residence of Jacques is? If so, could you point it out on the map?

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:12 PM
What is a sugarhouse??

Others said it is a shack/building used for making maple syrup during cold months... Apparently, vacant now in Summer.

SailorMoon
07-02-2008, 06:12 PM
Couldn't have put that better myself. With him changing her myspace...that's definite planning. But planning for what??

How long do you have?

Find a link with the affadavit and read it. That and a bunch of :eek::eek::eek: sums it up.

Let me look for you.

FourWands
07-02-2008, 06:12 PM
What is a sugarhouse??

A small building in which they make maple syrup. :)

evelyn24
07-02-2008, 06:12 PM
This affidavit posted by SuzQ says it all.

Gagnon affidavit

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/a...BT11201072.PDF

I now only wonder which one killed her...Gagnon or Jacques.

I also want to add that I feel really sorry for AR. Her life has to be ruined. To sexualize this young child and to force her to engage in all sorts of sexual acts with adult men and take photos and also take photos of a boyfriend and her engaged in sex is just sick. I wonder if she can be helped. What the he!! is wrong with her mother??

I agree..AR's life is basically going to be a struggle dealing with what has happened to her. I do not believe for one *&$(&*Q@()#*!@ second the mother, Denise, didn't have some clue this was going on in her home.
B!!!!

nanandjim
07-02-2008, 06:13 PM
A small building in which they make maple syrup. :)
TY FW. I have never heard of such a thing.

FourWands
07-02-2008, 06:15 PM
TY FW. I have never heard of such a thing.

Lots of 'em up here... We are the Maple Syrup Capital!

Celt
07-02-2008, 06:15 PM
They have the rd closed per WPTZ tv

There is a sugarhouse near there
maybe shes just tied up

Praying

Allen
Thank You all for the info..holding my breath and hoping you are right jnodrog!

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 06:16 PM
Gagnon is now at where I used to work in St.Albans being held. (I worked in 2 differnent facilities during my years in Corrections and he was in the other one I worked in last night)
He is being held in the Federal detaining unit there and is in a single cell.
He is not allowed in general population and his movements out of his cell are limited.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

LanieCoz
07-02-2008, 06:16 PM
I was just wondering if anyone knows of Gagnon's middle name or initial.

englishleigh
07-02-2008, 06:16 PM
OH my GOD, this is horrible. It sounds like they have found her at the sugarhouse, doesn't it? And probably not alive. Thank you for the links....I am SICK. :(

Chica
07-02-2008, 06:18 PM
I was just wondering if anyone knows of Gagnon's middle name or initial.

His middle initial is A, but I don't know for sure what the name is...

LanieCoz
07-02-2008, 06:18 PM
His middle initial is A, but I don't know for sure what the name is...

Thank You.

cheko1
07-02-2008, 06:19 PM
Thanks everyone for all the information!
Dark Shadow your awesome!

I am so upset by this! I just feel the outcome is going to be BAD for that beautiful little girl!!!!!

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 06:19 PM
Thank you for the update, DS! I don't know what we would do here without you. :clap:
To my very dearest Angelwngs,:blowkiss::blowkiss:
Thank-you so very much my friend.
Thank-you for all of your support for me. I appreciate it very much.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

Carrington
07-02-2008, 06:19 PM
I was just wondering if anyone knows of Gagnon's middle name or initial.

A (middle initial)

michelle
07-02-2008, 06:19 PM
I cant open the affidavit. Is anyone having trouble with it?

ella's mom
07-02-2008, 06:19 PM
OH my GOD, this is horrible. It sounds like they have found her at the sugarhouse, doesn't it? And probably not alive. Thank you for the links....I am SICK. :(

Unfortunately, I think you are right. How awful!!

Prayers for her entire family right now.

Class-z
07-02-2008, 06:20 PM
His middle initial is A, but I don't know for sure what the name is...

Arsehole

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 06:21 PM
Thanks everyone for all the information!
Dark Shadow your awesome!

I am so upset by this! I just feel the outcome is going to be BAD for that beautiful little girl!!!!!
My very dearest Cheko,:blowkiss:
:blowkiss:
I am honored my friend.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Amster
07-02-2008, 06:21 PM
I don't think we've heard the entire story, yet. I think something happened with Brooke the night before she was taken to that store.

The next arrest I want to hear about is Denise....and the 3rd man....

Also, does MJ have a brother?

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 06:24 PM
Arsehole

:silenced::)

Chica
07-02-2008, 06:24 PM
I don't think we've heard the entire story, yet. I think something happened with Brooke the night before she was taken to that store.

The next arrest I want to hear about is Denise....and the 3rd man....

Also, does MJ have a brother?

OMG... I certainly hope not!!

Liz
07-02-2008, 06:24 PM
Thanks for the info d_s! :blowkiss:

On days such as this, do you wish you were back there? Or thankful that you aren't?


Gagnon is now at where I used to work in St.Albans being held. (I worked in 2 differnent facilities during my years in Corrections and he was in the other one I worked in last night)
He is being held in the Federal detaining unit there and is in a single cell.
He is not allowed in general population and his movements out of his cell are limited.


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

nanandjim
07-02-2008, 06:25 PM
Apparently, they had something in store for Brooke because Jacques was staging the runaway scene by posting a message on her blog the day before she went missing (6/24). What I want to know is why he dropped her off at the convenience store? Was this part of the "Breckenridge" ploy? Did he just leave her there and then pick her up? If so, how much later?

You could tell that she was in a defensive mode with her arms crossed in the convenience store. It reminded me of poor little Shasta with that sicko Duncan.

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 06:25 PM
I cant open the affidavit. Is anyone having trouble with it?

You might have to update your adobe program. But here is another link:


http://www.wptz.com/download/2008/0702/16771882.pdf

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:25 PM
I cant open the affidavit. Is anyone having trouble with it?

Yep... Now it will not open here either...

Apparently it has been removed...

I hope someone here saved it to their computer.
Somebody...??? Anyone???

michelle
07-02-2008, 06:27 PM
Thanks angel, I could not get the other link to work either suzi.

CarpeDiem
07-02-2008, 06:27 PM
I don't think we've heard the entire story, yet. I think something happened with Brooke the night before she was taken to that store.


It probably did. But, we know she was still alive at that point, and I pray for a miracle, that she still is now.

MCDRAW
07-02-2008, 06:27 PM
I just opened it. It took a while to open but it eventually did.

nanandjim
07-02-2008, 06:27 PM
Yep... Now it will not open here either...

Apparently it has been removed...

I hope someone here saved it to their computer.
Somebody...??? Anyone???
I didn't save it. I hope someone did. It did have phone numbers, house addresses, IP addresses, etc. I was surprised that that personal info wasn't blacked out.

vickycopsy
07-02-2008, 06:27 PM
Can anyone tell me what exactly is a Sugar House? I am from Illinois and never heard of one. Thanks

rccook555
07-02-2008, 06:28 PM
Yep... Now it will not open here either...

Apparently it has been removed...

I hope someone here saved it to their computer.
Somebody...??? Anyone???

I still have it brought up on my comp. I will screen shot and save it now.

englishleigh
07-02-2008, 06:28 PM
Early on I posted that I had a feeling that the sicko uncle had circled back around and picked up Brooke and done something with her. I'm sick that I was right. :(
I think she fought him and threatened to tell about what he was trying to do and he killed her. I think Jacques is the murderer and Gagnon helped him dispose of her. :furious::furious::behindbar:furious::furious::fur ious::furious:

LanieCoz
07-02-2008, 06:29 PM
The affidavit is opening up for me. Maybe I can e-mail it to you...?

michelle
07-02-2008, 06:29 PM
I cant get any of the links to open now.:confused:

MCDRAW
07-02-2008, 06:29 PM
I, too am, praying for a miracle. It's not looking good for Brooke.

Amster
07-02-2008, 06:30 PM
Yep... Now it will not open here either...

Apparently it has been removed...

I hope someone here saved it to their computer.
Somebody...??? Anyone???

I saved it..just opened it again....and saved it again....

michelle
07-02-2008, 06:30 PM
The affidavit is opening up for me. Maybe I can e-mail it to you...?
Thanks, I pm'd you.

Class-z
07-02-2008, 06:31 PM
I cant get any of the links to open now.:confused:

Try emptying you cache maybe

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:31 PM
Apparently, they had something in store for Brooke because Jacques was staging the runaway scene by posting a message on her blog the day before she went missing (6/24). What I want to know is why he dropped her off at the convenience store? Was this part of the "Breckenridge" ploy? Did he just leave her there and then pick her up? If so, how much later?

You could tell that she was in a defensive mode with her arms crossed in the convenience store. It reminded me of poor little Shasta with that sicko Duncan.

I agree with you, NAJ. The MS posting on 6/24 and his manually changing the date to 6/25 is very damning evidence proving premeditation. Her body language in the video stood out like a sore thumb to show discomfort in the situation, IMO. I agree totally with you.

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 06:31 PM
Another link to Gagnon affidavit:
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/assets/pdf/BT11201072.PDF

missVT77
07-02-2008, 06:31 PM
There is going to be a press conference at 6pm

MCDRAW
07-02-2008, 06:31 PM
Can anyone tell me what exactly is a Sugar House? I am from Illinois and never heard of one. Thanks


I don't know what a sugar house is either.

jnodrog
07-02-2008, 06:32 PM
doesnt look good.

still praying

Allen

Class-z
07-02-2008, 06:32 PM
There is going to be a press conference at 6pm

Oh crap

evelyn24
07-02-2008, 06:32 PM
There is going to be a press conference at 6pm

not good.
:(

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:32 PM
I saved it..just opened it again....and saved it again....

Great, Amster. If it should be removed permanently, at least you had the forethought to save it to your computer. Thank You!

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 06:33 PM
A sugarhouse is a building where they store/process maple syrup.....I think. lol.

MCDRAW
07-02-2008, 06:33 PM
Will someone give updates at on the presser, my computer won't let me listen to video's?

Leila
07-02-2008, 06:33 PM
TY FW. I have never heard of such a thing.

nanandjim................the maple sugar industry is major in Vermont and upstate NY. A maple sugar house is just a small building where they have a fire going under a huge container that holds the maple sap from the trees. The sap is boiled and reduced to syrup. Many homeowners tap the maple trees on their property and make their own homemade maple syrup. :)

missVT77
07-02-2008, 06:33 PM
I just saw that about the press conference on the news. :-(

englishleigh
07-02-2008, 06:33 PM
There is going to be a press conference at 6pm

Oh no. Oh, NO.

evelyn24
07-02-2008, 06:34 PM
I don't know what a sugar house is either.

It was answered several posts back, it's a place where people make maple syrup in the winter, but it's shutdown in the summer. Apparentl Vermont has a lot of them.

jnodrog
07-02-2008, 06:34 PM
hopefully shes alive up there, doesnt seem like a dump location but a keeper location.

still praying

Allen

CarpeDiem
07-02-2008, 06:34 PM
I don't know what a sugar house is either.

It's a small out building. Google images has some good examples. Other's above have spoken of them too.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=sugar%20house&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

michelle
07-02-2008, 06:34 PM
Is the conference on Fox News?

missVT77
07-02-2008, 06:35 PM
I am watching live and can update about the press conference.



(OK to make maple syrup you need to get a lot of sap and boil it down. Like 15 gallons of sap makes 1 gallon syrup or something like that. They do this in little shacks near the trees so they don't have to haul gallons and gallons of sap too far.)

evelyn24
07-02-2008, 06:35 PM
How would she be getting food and water, though?
You know the uncle wasn't going there to feed her or give her water because the LE were on his butt.

murdershewrote
07-02-2008, 06:35 PM
I think a sugar house is a place where the maple sugar is processed after they get it from the maple trees...lots of them in VT.

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 06:35 PM
Thanks for the info d_s! :blowkiss:

On days such as this, do you wish you were back there? Or thankful that you aren't?
My very dearest Liz,:blowkiss::blowkiss:
I am so happy to see you!!!
No, I do not miss it LOL.


Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

missVT77
07-02-2008, 06:36 PM
I think if she was alive in the sugarhouse it would not take so long to find her and it would be a joyus announcement, not this hush hush long search followed by press conference.

Sassygerl
07-02-2008, 06:37 PM
I cant get any of the links to open now.:confused:

Are you using Firefox? It wouldn't open for me either, but then I used Safari and it opened right up.

beth272
07-02-2008, 06:37 PM
I think if she was alive in the sugarhouse it would not take so long to find her and it would be a joyus announcement, not this hush hush long search followed by press conference.

Sadly, I agree :(

rccook555
07-02-2008, 06:38 PM
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8612211

Police Call "Urgent" Press Conference on Brooke

Vermont State Police and the FBI have called an "urgent" press conference with an update on the Brooke Bennett case. The press conference starts at 6 p.m. in Bethel.

snipped

cricket
07-02-2008, 06:38 PM
Are you using Firefox? It wouldn't open for me either, but then I used Safari and it opened right up.

ditto for me with Firefox, but it opened with Internet Explorer.

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:38 PM
There is going to be a press conference at 6pm

Oh, yuck. This sounds as if the LE/Feds were allowing Brooke's parents time to arrive at the station and to be updated on most current 'findings' prior to releasing news to the general public. If they found her and she were taken to a hospital her dad would be taken there... So I guess we can assume they haven't found her yet or it is not good.... Prayers still..

Busylady
07-02-2008, 06:39 PM
Does anyone know of a link to go to watch the live press conference?

CarpeDiem
07-02-2008, 06:39 PM
http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=8612211

Police Call "Urgent" Press Conference on Brooke

Vermont State Police and the FBI have called an "urgent" press conference with an update on the Brooke Bennett case. The press conference starts at 6 p.m. in Bethel.

snipped

Hoping beyond hope she is alive.

skymom
07-02-2008, 06:39 PM
Does anyone know if the presser will be online somewhere?

Thank you in advance. Praying in the mean time.

Skymom

Amster
07-02-2008, 06:40 PM
Great, Amster. If it should be removed permanently, at least you had the forethought to save it to your computer. Thank You!

YW....but, trust me....I'm so computer illiterate, I didn't even realize I'd saved it. 3 times! :waitasec:

MCDRAW
07-02-2008, 06:40 PM
It was answered several posts back, it's a place where people make maple syrup in the winter, but it's shutdown in the summer. Apparentl Vermont has a lot of them.


Thank You! I haven't been able to keep up.

Taximom
07-02-2008, 06:41 PM
Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but Jacques was last seen w/Brooke in his home by AR after they went upstairs. AR was told to leave shortly afterward. So I think Jacques is the main culprit. Gagnon appears to have been in TX that morning and probably did the myspace comment or blog changes.

The myspace comment quoted in the Gagnon affidavit is so fake to me. (snippet) "They say ur first is the one u always want and that's u baby! This girl don't sneak out of the house at 2 in the morning for just any man! OMG if only people knew me 4 real!"

I'm pretty sure that was all part of the premeditation in this girls disappearance, which means at least Jacques was going to kidnap her and move her alive somewhere...or just kill her. I wonder if she threatened to tell seeing as she probably was well-informed about perverts by her dad?

From a psychological standpoint, I think the (fake) myspace comment says A LOT about Jacques/Gagnon.

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:41 PM
I am watching live and can update about the press conference.



(OK to make maple syrup you need to get a lot of sap and boil it down. Like 15 gallons of sap makes 1 gallon syrup or something like that. They do this in little shacks near the trees so they don't have to haul gallons and gallons of sap too far.)

Well now that makes total sense! (And Thanks for educating this old Southern girl... :))

Leila
07-02-2008, 06:41 PM
I think a sugar house is a place where the maple sugar is processed after they get it from the maple trees...lots of them in VT.


It takes boiling a lot of sap from maple trees to reduce it to maple syrup. They only do this in the winter months and early spring when the sap is flowing. So, a sugar house wouldn't be in use at this time of the year.

Cheri_G
07-02-2008, 06:43 PM
Is anyone watching the local news tonigt? One of my tv's is tied up by my husband and the other isn't getting a signal at the moment. Are they reporting anything new or just announcing the press conference at 6?

MCDRAW
07-02-2008, 06:43 PM
I am watching live and can update about the press conference.



(OK to make maple syrup you need to get a lot of sap and boil it down. Like 15 gallons of sap makes 1 gallon syrup or something like that. They do this in little shacks near the trees so they don't have to haul gallons and gallons of sap too far.)


Thank You!

rccook555
07-02-2008, 06:44 PM
I thought the presser have been played on WCAX... but im not finding them now and cant find the old presser links either grrr...

michelle
07-02-2008, 06:45 PM
Are you using Firefox? It wouldn't open for me either, but then I used Safari and it opened right up.
I got it to open, thanks.

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 06:46 PM
Is anyone watching the local news tonigt? One of my tv's is tied up by my husband and the other isn't getting a signal at the moment. Are they reporting anything new or just announcing the press conference at 6?
My dearest Cheri_G,:blowkiss:
I have my local news on now and they will be reporting updates in a few minutes.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

Chica
07-02-2008, 06:46 PM
The myspace comment quoted in the Gagnon affidavit is so fake to me. (snippet) "They say ur first is the one u always want and that's u baby! This girl don't sneak out of the house at 2 in the morning for just any man! OMG if only people knew me 4 real!"

I'm pretty sure that was all part of the premeditation in this girls disappearance, which means at least Jacques was going to kidnap her and move her alive somewhere...or just kill her. I wonder if she threatened to tell seeing as she probably was well-informed about perverts by her dad?

From a psychological standpoint, I think the (fake) myspace comment says A LOT about Jacques/Gagnon.

You know, the more I think about it . . . what if he was setting up the myspace 'fake entry' JUST IN CASE he would need it . . . maybe he wasn't really planning to 'disappear' Brooke, but he was preparing a scenerio JUST IN CASE . . . he seems to be diabolical enough to do something like that!

Brooke . . . that poor baby . . . my thoughts and prayers to you and yours . . .

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:46 PM
YW....but, trust me....I'm so computer illiterate, I didn't even realize I'd saved it. 3 times! :waitasec:

lol :)

rccook555
07-02-2008, 06:46 PM
My dearest Cheri_G,:blowkiss:
I have my local news on now and they will be reporting updates in a few minutes.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

Thank you Dark Shadows! You are the best!! :blowkiss:

Cheri_G
07-02-2008, 06:48 PM
My dearest Cheri_G,:blowkiss:
I have my local news on now and they will be reporting updates in a few minutes.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

Thanks DS. Do you know if WCAX or WPTZ will be carrying the press conference live?

Liz
07-02-2008, 06:48 PM
No, I do not miss it LOL.


I'm so happy you are out of there! :) :blowkiss:

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 06:48 PM
I thought the presser have been played on WCAX... but im not finding them now and cant find the old presser links either grrr...
My dearest RR,:blowkiss:
My local news, WPTZ and WCAX are going to be updating at 6 pm. WPTZ has a news cast every weekday at 5 and 6.
WCAX does not air at 5. They do at 6.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

KR2tonenow
07-02-2008, 06:48 PM
[quote=SuziQ;2344588]http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS01/80701028

(snip)
State Police postponed an afternoon news conference scheduled for 4 p.m. at Whitcomb High School in Bethel. They have undertaken an intensive search of a location off Crocker Road, near Kingsbury Brook, on the Bethel-Randolph town line.[/quote}

Good to hear. Thank you!!:)

Taximom
07-02-2008, 06:49 PM
You know, the more I think about it . . . what if he was setting up the myspace 'fake entry' JUST IN CASE he would need it . . . maybe he wasn't really planning to 'disappear' Brooke, but he was preparing a scenerio JUST IN CASE . . . he seems to be diabolical enough to do something like that!

Brooke . . . that poor baby . . . my thoughts and prayers to you and yours . . .

Yeah, either way he's certainly diabolical. :(

Class-z
07-02-2008, 06:49 PM
How would she be getting food and water, though?
You know the uncle wasn't going there to feed her or give her water because the LE were on his butt.

I'll bet she's buried up there. Sickening, just sickening. Such a waste

missVT77
07-02-2008, 06:49 PM
WCAX says they will carry the press conference (channel 5).

My stomach is in knots, this is all so horrible.

Carrington
07-02-2008, 06:51 PM
Gagnon was worried enough to have his roommate (Grosenheide) throw away his safe.
And from the affidavit he had years of child porn in it, Mostly Russian.

I see him as an accomplice. (throw away the key)

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:51 PM
I'll bet she's buried up there. Sickening, just sickening. Such a waste

Think positive, my friend. Think that he was a perv but got himself into a mess and just put her into the Sugar Shack until he could figure out what to do... Pray... Class... Pray she is just tied up in that little building ...still alive...

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 06:51 PM
WCAX is channel 3
WPTZ is channel 5


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

michelle
07-02-2008, 06:52 PM
What channel is having the press conference?

evelyn24
07-02-2008, 06:52 PM
*server please hold up*

CarpeDiem
07-02-2008, 06:52 PM
I thought the presser have been played on WCAX... but im not finding them now and cant find the old presser links either grrr...

Here's some video, the replay of the news conference tonight may come up later there also:

http://www.wcax.com/Global/category.asp?C=18197&nav=menu183_2

SailorMoon
07-02-2008, 06:53 PM
Well...guess I'll hang out at work for some extra time. No way I'm getting in my car and drivin at 5pm while this presser is going on.

What the heck did they plan to do with her? He put some thought and time into the "run away and meet somebody" thing. He had to have planned on killing her. There's no doubt in my mind.

Now...for the upteenth time, where the heck is DENISE?????? Being booked in I hope.

adnoid
07-02-2008, 06:53 PM
Yep... Now it will not open here either...

Apparently it has been removed...

I hope someone here saved it to their computer.
Somebody...??? Anyone???

It opens fine for me - AND I have saved a copy.

RR0004
07-02-2008, 06:53 PM
WCAX says they will carry the press conference (channel 5).

My stomach is in knots, this is all so horrible.
Poor Brooke...I can't bear it...I can't even begin to imagine how her family is feeling right now...and they were supposed to have the vigil...I'm praying for you, honey!

missVT77
07-02-2008, 06:53 PM
Whoops, thank you dark_shadows. 5 is showing it (to be clear)

WCAX is channel 3
WPTZ is channel 5


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

cricket
07-02-2008, 06:54 PM
this doesn't sound good.


Police call 'urgent press conference' in Brooke Bennett disappearance

RANDOLPH -- Investigators into Brooke Bennett's disappearance have launched an intensive search of a wooded area near the Bethel-Randolph town line, and an "urgent" news conference has been called for 6 p.m.


snip

Attorney General Bill Sorrell told a reporter an announcement is scheduled to be made at 6 p.m. at Whitcomb High School in Bethel.



More at link:

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS01/80701028

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:54 PM
It opens fine for me - AND I have saved a copy.

Great! TY, A.

luthersmama
07-02-2008, 06:54 PM
There are alot of photos at the Burlington Free Press site. I wish they would change the caption, though. Many of them say that Jacques "took her upstairs to have sex". IMHO, it should say "Jacques took her upstairs to commit rape and other crimes."

ThoughtFox
07-02-2008, 06:54 PM
Oh God, I hope they find her alive!

This story gets worse by the minute - unreal. :furious:

Jen_in_Indy
07-02-2008, 06:54 PM
Would someone be able to update live from the presser? I'm going to stick around for a few extra minutes here at work, but I won't be able to watch.

SailorMoon
07-02-2008, 06:55 PM
And why did he tell AR all of this?? Did he really think he had her under that much control?? I think she knows more and knew she'd be next.

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:56 PM
4 minutes......

evelyn24
07-02-2008, 06:56 PM
Would someone be able to update live from the presser? I'm going to stick around for a few extra minutes here at work, but I won't be able to watch.

Me too. I'm off at 6pm, and I'm going to stay an extra 15 minutes to get some news.

SailorMoon
07-02-2008, 06:56 PM
Can someone give me a quick link to presser?

adnoid
07-02-2008, 06:56 PM
*server please hold up*

Should not be a problem. Barely breaking a sweat right now:

16:55:23 up 30 days, 15:04, 1 user, load average: 3.05, 3.02, 2.84
284 processes: 278 sleeping, 6 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU0 states: 26.10% user 3.5% system 0.0% nice 0.0% iowait 69.14% idle
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Swap: 2048276k av, 907868k used, 1140408k free 846864k cached


When the load average gets above 8 you will start to notice a slowdown.

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 06:56 PM
No live links yet

missVT77
07-02-2008, 06:57 PM
There are a few of us planning on watching the press conference and will update asap. I am glad to not have to watch it alone.

January.
07-02-2008, 06:57 PM
I think too that something happened the night before which lead to her disappearance. She probably resisted or threatened to tell, but only stuck around because she was threatened by the uncle.

My stomach is in knots waiting for this press conference. I hope and pray they've found her alive, but I'm not counting on it. :(

athy
07-02-2008, 06:58 PM
could be AR was so scared she was just waiting and hoping those two were arrested so she could tell all she knew...safely

Liz
07-02-2008, 06:58 PM
You know, the more I think about it . . . what if he was setting up the myspace 'fake entry' JUST IN CASE he would need it . . . maybe he wasn't really planning to 'disappear' Brooke, but he was preparing a scenerio JUST IN CASE . . . he seems to be diabolical enough to do something like that!

Brooke . . . that poor baby . . . my thoughts and prayers to you and yours . . .

That was my line of thinking, as well, Chica.

Ditto on the thoughts and prayers for Brooke and those that truly love and care about her.

Tom'sGirl
07-02-2008, 06:59 PM
http://i31.tinypic.com/2yyczfc.jpg

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 06:59 PM
Oh Dear Lord, Let her be Found Alive...

1 minute...

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:00 PM
There are a few of us planning on watching the press conference and will update asap. I am glad to not have to watch it alone.
Dearest VT77,:blowkiss:
I am right here with you.
Welcome to Websleuths and it is a pleasure to meet you,
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:01 PM
Jacques is charged with Brooke's kidnapping

missVT77
07-02-2008, 07:01 PM
edited above

missVT77
07-02-2008, 07:03 PM
The uncle will be charged with kidnapping Brooke tomorrow

Taximom
07-02-2008, 07:04 PM
Well, there's no DP to help change his mind about giving up her location.

missVT77
07-02-2008, 07:07 PM
Now they are going over some other lesser news stories--must be the press conference is starting late. Ok now the weather.

missVT77
07-02-2008, 07:09 PM
They have located the remains

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:09 PM
The remains of brooke were found

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 07:09 PM
oh no

January.
07-02-2008, 07:10 PM
My heart just sank :(

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:10 PM
Brooke was found atv 4:45 today

CarpeDiem
07-02-2008, 07:10 PM
Just awful. God help us all.

January.
07-02-2008, 07:10 PM
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS01/80701028

barb0301
07-02-2008, 07:11 PM
OMG !!!

I am heartbroken, as I know all of you are. My prayers to the family that did love her.

BrowneyedEmily
07-02-2008, 07:11 PM
God, you know it's bad when you're wishing she was being held somewhere by these awful people. RIP...

Class-z
07-02-2008, 07:11 PM
Any updates from the presser?

Oh dear Lord, I knew it.

If I have to watch that mother/aunt/ grandmother bubbering on TV I'm going to kick the screen

missVT77
07-02-2008, 07:11 PM
They said they noticed disturbed ground on July 1st then today dug it up. At around 4:30 PM or so they dicovered her. The location was found as a result of information found in the uncle's house.

SailorMoon
07-02-2008, 07:12 PM
Nooooooooo...............

the remains of brooke were found

Taximom
07-02-2008, 07:12 PM
Should not be a problem. Barely breaking a sweat right now: (snipped)
When the load average gets above 8 you will start to notice a slowdown.

WS has been slow for me this afternoon. Right now it is taking about 20 seconds at least to open a new page/reply and I've gotten the "server busy" message once or twice. I noticed it like this a day or two ago as well. I hope all is well!

fran
07-02-2008, 07:12 PM
OhMyGosh!

I am just sick.

Prayers and hugs to the family.

fran

adnoid
07-02-2008, 07:12 PM
They have located the remains

Damn it all to hell. And no Death Penalty.

Damn it.

KR2tonenow
07-02-2008, 07:12 PM
There are no words :((

englishleigh
07-02-2008, 07:12 PM
OMG....many, many prayers for Jim and Janet Bennett, Savanna, and all who loved Brooke. May these two scumbags FRY in UTTER HELL.

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:13 PM
VSP is asking all to respect Brookes privacy
Brooke is in Burlington awaiting an autopsy

The is a press conference thurs at 10 am
SHE WAS FOUND NEAR JACQUES HOME

Taximom
07-02-2008, 07:13 PM
That SOB.

pixies
07-02-2008, 07:13 PM
Devastating news!


I was praying she just ran away.

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 07:13 PM
federal kidnapping complaint:

http://www.timesargus.com/assets/pdf/BT4962372.PDF

englishleigh
07-02-2008, 07:13 PM
Damn it all to hell. And no Death Penalty.

Damn it.

The Feds are involved. Hoping for them to take over and the federal death penalty to apply.

Alcina
07-02-2008, 07:14 PM
Damn it all to hell. And no Death Penalty.

Damn it.

My feelings exactly. :cry:

asher1979
07-02-2008, 07:15 PM
I am crushed. My head was telling me this was likely, but my heart was holding out hope. God bless Brooke, Jim, Janet and the family who loved her. Poor Brooke didn't stand a chance.

Hell is too good for these POSs.

KR2tonenow
07-02-2008, 07:15 PM
good, fry them!!

Sassygerl
07-02-2008, 07:15 PM
:( Prayers to the family

pixies
07-02-2008, 07:15 PM
OMG....many, many prayers for Jim and Janet Bennett, Savanna, and all who loved Brooke. May these two scumbags FRY in UTTER HELL.


You forgot scumbag number three, HER MOTHER.
May that piece of garbage rot in hell.

Taximom
07-02-2008, 07:15 PM
No murder charges yet? I guess they have to get the autopsy results first...

He should never have been set free in 1993.

DenverMom
07-02-2008, 07:16 PM
There are no words. I am crying for this poor girl, and the others victimized by these creeps.

Prayers for Brooke and her family.

englishleigh
07-02-2008, 07:16 PM
You forgot scumbag number three, HER MOTHER.
May that piece of garbage rot in hell.



Right....funny, I don't feel like praying for HER.

Leila
07-02-2008, 07:16 PM
CNN Headline News carried a portion of the press conference and is now showing the Jacque's house and the forensic van in the search area.

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 07:16 PM
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080702/NEWS01/80701028

BETHEL -- Police have discovered the body of Brooke Bennett near a sugarhouse off a country road in Randolph.

The body of the 12-year-old Braintree girl, missing since June 25 and the subject of Vermont's first Amber Alert, was found today near Crocker Road -- just a few miles from the home of her uncle.

The uncle, Michael Jacques, 42, is the lead suspect in Brooke's disappearance. She was last seen at his home on East Bethel Road the day she vanished.

Hobo
07-02-2008, 07:16 PM
I am so sorry.

cheko1
07-02-2008, 07:17 PM
This is just awful!!!!
Sick sorry SOB's.......

RIP Brooke!!!!

ThoughtFox
07-02-2008, 07:17 PM
Oh, how devastating. Prayers for the family.

Another life tossed away by scumbags.

fran
07-02-2008, 07:17 PM
That poor, poor baby. :(

Why couldn't they just leave her alone?

OMGosh!

Heartbreaking, truly, truly heartbreaking.

fran

missVT77
07-02-2008, 07:18 PM
It is upsetting. The poor girl didn't stand a chance with so many perverts in positions of authority in her life. That the ex-stepfather could say she couldn't have a myspace unless he had the password then he uses it to try and cover up her murder.

Although having said this, I am friends of a person close with Brooke's mother who says she is somewhat naieve and he is certain she did not know about the abuse. I would hope people can find kindness in their heart for the innocent victims of this, of which I believe Brooke's mom is one. I am sure she feels bad enough already.

Busylady
07-02-2008, 07:19 PM
This is so heartbreaking. Prayers to all that loved Brooke, and special prayers for A.R.

DEPUTYDAWG
07-02-2008, 07:21 PM
So another dear child is dead because some sicko (previously convicted!!!!) can't control his sexual urges...WTH. I'm truly disgusted with this one..........

athy
07-02-2008, 07:22 PM
not to make anyone feel worse than they do but NO ONE can afford to be naive these days...least of all parents of children. unfortunately we can't even let kids be kids today we have to give them as much info as we can without scaring them to help keep them safe and to let them know we're there to help them.

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:22 PM
The Trooper who gave us the news was very devastated. It was clear as soon as he tried to speak that Brooke was deceased.
I am beyond any others words about the pain projected by that Trooper.....


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Amster
07-02-2008, 07:22 PM
Denise

Brookes blood is on your hands, also! Was it worth hanging on to a younger man? Evidently! I despise you and hope you are arrested as an accomplice.

Leila
07-02-2008, 07:22 PM
This is devastating news...........I'm so sorry for Jim and Janet Bennett. This is the worse possible news for parents to have to hear.

PMLsmom
07-02-2008, 07:22 PM
Not the outcome any of us wanted. My prayers to Brooke's "real" family and friends. Soar with the angels Brooke.

May all who participated in these acts against the children fry in HELL!!! :furious:

adnoid
07-02-2008, 07:22 PM
...He should never have been set free in 1993.

When will our lawmakers come to grips with the fact that sex offenders are BROKEN HUMANS THAT CANNOT BE FIXED and legislate accordingly? How many more must fall victim to REPEAT OFFENDERS?

SuziQ
07-02-2008, 07:23 PM
I need to run errands. Please post new info that comes up. Thanks!

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 07:24 PM
Oh Nooooo....


Prayers be with her father and his side of her family.

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:24 PM
Can I please ask my fellow websleuthers who want to see the live conference to go to this link;
http://www.wptz.com/video/11306790/index.html

It is a live feed.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

Wisteria Vine
07-02-2008, 07:25 PM
It's very easy to blame the victim or the victim's parents in a crime like this. Granted, the mom was apparently 'surrounded' by these types which indicates one or two things: first, that she traveled in that circle and was a party to it; or secondly, that she was in fact naive and a person so in need of love and affirmation that she may have turned a blind eye to any obvious (or not so obvious) warning signs.

My guess is that she's the latter, eager for help and support provided to her by predators. These men seek out a certain type; they have a radar that finds these types of women, manipulates them, and takes advantage of them.

I'll reserve my final opinion of Brook's mom until after all the facts have come out. It's just sad that with this type of environment that poor girl never stood a chance.

So sad.


It is upsetting. The poor girl didn't stand a chance with so many perverts in positions of authority in her life. That the ex-stepfather could say she couldn't have a myspace unless he had the password then he uses it to try and cover up her murder.

Although having said this, I am friends of a person close with Brooke's mother who says she is somewhat naieve and he is certain she did not know about the abuse. I would hope people can find kindness in their heart for the innocent victims of this, of which I believe Brooke's mom is one. I am sure she feels bad enough already.

Amster
07-02-2008, 07:25 PM
It is upsetting. The poor girl didn't stand a chance with so many perverts in positions of authority in her life. That the ex-stepfather could say she couldn't have a myspace unless he had the password then he uses it to try and cover up her murder.

Although having said this, I am friends of a person close with Brooke's mother who says she is somewhat naieve and he is certain she did not know about the abuse. I would hope people can find kindness in their heart for the innocent victims of this, of which I believe Brooke's mom is one. I am sure she feels bad enough already.

The innocent victims are A.R. and Brooke...and other little girls who may have been abused. Cassandra KNEW MJ was a registered sex offender. What about that didn't she understand?? I'm positive she feels really bad....now.

Nugrandma1
07-02-2008, 07:25 PM
We just got the news here in MA a few minutes ago I am so upset. I figured that the police had information yesterday that wasn't good. Seems the other girl who was in the "sex ring" lured her to her uncles and then he tried to molest her. I bet she fought back and he killed her. He and her so called ex step-father should be hung.

What a terrible day, I had a feeling they would find her at his place.

My heart goes out to her. Don't know about the rest of that dysfunctional family. Her mother and her father who knew this guy was a pedophile and didn't seem that upset they were together. Shame on all of them.

jep0216
07-02-2008, 07:26 PM
Sorry if this has been said, as I'm still trying to catch up from all the discussion today. I searched online and there are 81 listings in the US with the last name "GROSENHEIDER". 12 of those are in TX (2 under "Kevin") There are 2 with the name John (no middle initial) but both of these live in IA. Could be the same John Stephen that was in that article from TX that could have moved, especially since that was from 2000. I was looking more to see if John and Kevin lived near each other to see if they could be related, but no such luck. There is a Jon in TX (spelled without the H, and also has L for his middle initial).

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:26 PM
It is being said that they are unsure of the vigil tonight. But WPTZ is there in case they still gather there.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Beffie
07-02-2008, 07:27 PM
Although having said this, I am friends of a person close with Brooke's mother who says she is somewhat naieve and he is certain she did not know about the abuse. I would hope people can find kindness in their heart for the innocent victims of this, of which I believe Brooke's mom is one. I am sure she feels bad enough already.

I am sorry, but I have a hard time feeling bad for her. My mother is also naive, but dammit when you have children you have to protect them. you should not need a man so bad you close your eyes to abuse. Your kids should come first. No if ands or buts!! Rest in peace sweet Brooke, may no one ever hurt you again. :(

Leila
07-02-2008, 07:27 PM
The Feds are involved. Hoping for them to take over and the federal death penalty to apply.

With the tampering of Brooke's MySpace page, that may constitute crossing state lines, making this a federal case. If so, I'm hoping both Jacques and Gagnon will be tried in a federal court and subject to the federal death penalty.

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:27 PM
VSP is heading to the families house now

Liz
07-02-2008, 07:27 PM
Brooke, I feel sure you so wanted to do the right thing, which led to your demise.
RIP, angel!

beth272
07-02-2008, 07:28 PM
It is upsetting. The poor girl didn't stand a chance with so many perverts in positions of authority in her life. That the ex-stepfather could say she couldn't have a myspace unless he had the password then he uses it to try and cover up her murder.

Although having said this, I am friends of a person close with Brooke's mother who says she is somewhat naieve and he is certain she did not know about the abuse. I would hope people can find kindness in their heart for the innocent victims of this, of which I believe Brooke's mom is one. I am sure she feels bad enough already.


Well, as a mom to three kids, I would NEVER EVER let a RSO be anywhere near my child! She may be naive and not have known about the current abuse of AR, but she did know he was a sexual predator!

Mygirlsadie
07-02-2008, 07:28 PM
Can I ask why was Brooke with Uncle Loser to begin with?

Liz
07-02-2008, 07:29 PM
When will our lawmakers come to grips with the fact that sex offenders are BROKEN HUMANS THAT CANNOT BE FIXED and legislate accordingly? How many more must fall victim to REPEAT OFFENDERS?

Exactly!
We need a ONE STRIKE LAW!

Liz
07-02-2008, 07:30 PM
Headline News was showing the VSP announcing about Brooke's remains being found.

Amster
07-02-2008, 07:30 PM
VSP is heading to the families house now

Thank you for keeping us updated. Oh Lord....CNN showing press conf., again.....

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:30 PM
Can I please ask my fellow websleuthers who want to see the live conference to go to this link;
http://www.wptz.com/video/11306790/index.html

It is a live feed.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
The live feed is off the air right now, but if you minimize the window, you will here when they come back on in a few with the live report.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

cheko1
07-02-2008, 07:31 PM
It is upsetting. The poor girl didn't stand a chance with so many perverts in positions of authority in her life. That the ex-stepfather could say she couldn't have a myspace unless he had the password then he uses it to try and cover up her murder.

Although having said this, I am friends of a person close with Brooke's mother who says she is somewhat naieve and he is certain she did not know about the abuse. I would hope people can find kindness in their heart for the innocent victims of this, of which I believe Brooke's mom is one. I am sure she feels bad enough already.

I don't have a ounce of sympathy for the Mom! Not a ounce.....Naive! WTH........her daughter has been killed over STUPIDITY / over her & DENISE's stupidity I might add.....Brooke's Mom is not a victim here.......if she is please please explain this to us!!!!

I sincerely hope VSP really get to the bottom of this case. They need to find out if Denise & Cassandra both need thrown into jail.

Brooke is dead.....all the damn family wanted was to cover up there secrets & lies. I am totally sick over this......

concernedperson
07-02-2008, 07:31 PM
When will our lawmakers come to grips with the fact that sex offenders are BROKEN HUMANS THAT CANNOT BE FIXED and legislate accordingly? How many more must fall victim to REPEAT OFFENDERS?

This is what has been on my mind today and the fact that he was released after a very short prison sentence for the crime he committed. With that said, Gagnon didn't have a criminal record for being a sex offender that anyone has found. But he sure participated in the coverup mainly because he didn't want to be found out. Broken humans that can't be fixed with a propensity to lie and engage in ruining as many children's lives as possible.

I have no sympathy for them there is no rehab available that can fix what ails them. It is called evil.

athy
07-02-2008, 07:32 PM
for Brooke from sarah mclachlan's in the arms of an angel


in the arms of an angel
fly away from here
from this dark cold hotel room
and the endlessness that you fear
you are pulled from the wreckage
of your silent reverie
you're in the arms of the angel
may you find some comfort there
you're in the arms of the angel
may you find some comfort here

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:33 PM
Thank you for keeping us updated. Oh Lord....CNN showing press conf., again.....
My dearest Amster,:blowkiss:
You are very welcome.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

fran
07-02-2008, 07:33 PM
VSP is heading to the families house now

Thank you for the update, ds

fran

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 07:34 PM
With the tampering of Brooke's MySpace page, that may constitute crossing state lines, making this a federal case. If so, I'm hoping both Jacques and Gagnon will be tried in a federal court and subject to the federal death penalty.

That would be justice. I hope that you are right...

This just makes me sick. Furious and Physically Sick.

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 07:36 PM
vsp on the live feed
What was shown on local news announcing the finding of Brooke.
On right now



http://www.wptz.com/video/11306790/index.html

adnoid
07-02-2008, 07:37 PM
...I have no sympathy for them there is no rehab available that can fix what ails them. It is called evil.

I respectfully disagree. I've got a couple hundred rounds of appropriate rehab in my trunk as we speak, in 3 different calibers.

MCDRAW
07-02-2008, 07:38 PM
This is devastating news. Even though this is what I thought the outcome was going to be, I was hoping it wouldn't be. I will be praying for this family.

Amster
07-02-2008, 07:39 PM
Please tell me that Jim doesn't have to ID her body.....

nanandjim
07-02-2008, 07:40 PM
This is what I am wondering. Did AR and Jacques take Brooke to the convenience store to allow Brooke's ex-stepfather time to sneak into Jacques' house/bedroom? Then, they returned to Jacques' house telling Brooke that they were going to a party. Brooke and AR watch television while Jacques is in his room discussing what they are going to do/say to Brooke for her initiation. Jacques then takes Brooke up to his room. I don't think Brooke had any idea what he wanted. Well, she is surprised to see Gagnon in the room. When they try to pull that Breckenridge crap on her, she balks and struggles. I think that they are both involved in her murder. I have heard on the media (which is inaccurate half of the time) that Gagnon was spotted in the area the day of Brooke's disappearance. So, he could have been at Jacques' house. This could be another reason that he told AR to leave the house.

I am very saddened at this end result. This poor child never had a chance. Neither did AR. Both mothers are pitiful at best. Also, if Brooke's father knew that this "uncle" was a sex offender, WHY would he allow her to be exposed to this guy? That was way too risky. :(

Not only has AR's life been ruined because of being sexually exploited her entire life, now she has the guilt of her "cousin" to live with. How much can you pile on one kid?

I believe that Savannah also knows some things. I hope that police are talking to her. I wonder why she and AR quit speaking.

murdershewrote
07-02-2008, 07:41 PM
I feel so bad...I keep thinking she was only 12, just going into 5th grade. My prayers go out especially to Victim #1 who had the courage to finally tell and end all this madness, at least in this case.

What is there to say...my feelings about porno just get reinforced with every case like this.

It's another sad day.

luthersmama
07-02-2008, 07:42 PM
This is what I am wondering. Did AR and Jacques take Brooke to the convenience store to allow Brooke's ex-stepfather time to sneak into Jacques' house/bedroom? Then, they returned to Jacques' house telling Brooke that they were going to a party. Brooke and AR watch television while Jacques is in his room discussing what they are going to do/say to Brooke for her initiation. Jacques then takes Brooke up to his room. I don't think Brooke had any idea what he wanted. Well, she is surprised to see Gagnon in the room. When they try to pull that Breckenridge crap on her, she balks and struggles. I think that they are both involved in her murder. I have heard on the media (which is inaccurate half of the time) that Gagnon was spotted in the area the day of Brooke's disappearance. So, he could have been at Jacques' house. This could be another reason that he told AR to leave the house.

I am very saddened at this end result. This poor child never had a chance. Neither did AR. Both mothers are pitiful at best.


I am pretty certain that Gagnon was NOT in Vermont until AFTER her disappearance. However, it appears that he and Jacques were in cahoots. Perhaps Gagnon was to have his turn when she came to Texas. :mad:

Leila
07-02-2008, 07:43 PM
CNN Headline News has been covering this for the last 35 minutes and just said they will return to this after the commercial break with a spokesman from America's Most Wanted.

athy
07-02-2008, 07:44 PM
i have an 11 year old granddaughter and believe me if cassandra and denise were my daughter and this happened to my granddaughter i'd kill the guy who did it then beat the @@@@ out of my daughter for allowing my grandchild to be put in that situation.

luthersmama
07-02-2008, 07:45 PM
I feel so bad...I keep thinking she was only 12, just going into 5th grade. My prayers go out especially to Victim #1 who had the courage to finally tell and end all this madness, at least in this case.

What is there to say...my feelings about porno just get reinforced with every case like this.

It's another sad day.

I think she was almost 13 and about to enter 8th grade. Still bad. Poor thing.

She's also a hero. She must have fought Jacques, resulting in her death. She may have saved many other girls from him and Gagnon. Sacrificial lamb.

nanandjim
07-02-2008, 07:45 PM
I am pretty certain that Gagnon was NOT in Vermont until AFTER her disappearance. However, it appears that he and Jacques were in cahoots. Perhaps Gagnon was to have his turn when she came to Texas. :mad:
Well, it is very suspicious that there were two very lengthy phone calls between Jacques and Gagnon that night. It is also very suspicious that Gagnon was involved in changing information on Brooke's Myspace. Why would he agree to do that if he were not involved in some way?

Police probably will be able to pinpoint where each was because they both were probably on cell phones.

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 07:45 PM
Please tell me that Jim doesn't have to ID her body.....

I thought maybe he was asked to come to the police station this afternoon to identify video stills or photographs prior to her being sent to autopsy for a formal identification at the state crime lab.

Busylady
07-02-2008, 07:47 PM
Because in 2007 Gagnon had a abused A.R., in addition to having photos and porn on his computer, so he was trying to cover his buddies ass so that his wouldnt get caught.

Well, it is very suspicious that there were two very lengthy phone calls between Jacques and Gagnon that night. It is also very suspicious that Gagnon was involved in changing information on Brooke's Myspace. Why would he agree to do that if he were not involved in some way?

Police probably will be able to pinpoint where each was because they both were probably on cell phones.

Amster
07-02-2008, 07:47 PM
My dearest Amster,:blowkiss:
You are very welcome.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

How can people who work in law enforcement stand this? I was a dispatcher for a few years in a small Nevada police station. Nothing like what officers and detectives and investigators do, but close enough to see what they do...day after day after day. All that hard work and all those emotions and then to have the courts let the perv go to offend again! It's just so heartbreaking....sorry for the rant...

barb0301
07-02-2008, 07:48 PM
Damn it all to hell. And no Death Penalty.

Damn it.

Is there a possibility that they could be tried federally under the RICO act? And then possibly get the DP? I know that kidnapping, murder, dealing in obscene material, obstruction of justice, are all covered under the RICO act. I'm not sure if the "group" of pervs would qualify as racketeering, legally, although IMO, they are certainly a qualified sex ring and should be eligible for RICO prosecutiion.

Anyone familiar w/RICO prosecutions?

luthersmama
07-02-2008, 07:48 PM
Well, it is very suspicious that there were two very lengthy phones between Jacques and Gagnon that night. It is also very suspicious that Gagnon was involved in changing information on Brooke's Myspace. Why would he agree to do that if he were not involved in some way?

I agree he was complicit in some way. But I do not believe he was physically in Vermont at the time of her death. This is fortunate because it motivated him to rat out Jacques. He is a criminal - no doubt about that. But I don't think that he was present when Jacques raped and killed Brooke.

Mygirlsadie
07-02-2008, 07:49 PM
Why would Brooke be allowed to be with this man to begin with? Where was she supposed to be at that day? Her parents didn't mind if she hung around with Uncle Sex Offender? I mean I just don't get this..why was she there?!?!

Busylady
07-02-2008, 07:49 PM
Watching that press conference really made it hit home the emotional toll these cases take on LE. Prayers to all of them that have worked so hard putting their heart and soul into finding Brooke alive.

luthersmama
07-02-2008, 07:50 PM
Is there a possibility that they could be tried federally under the RICO act? And then possibly get the DP? I know that kidnapping, murder, dealing in obscene material, obstruction of justice, are all covered under the RICO act. I'm not sure if the "group" of pervs would qualify as racketeering, legally, although IMO, they are certainly a qualified sex ring and should be eligible for RICO prosecutiion.

Anyone familiar w/RICO prosecutions?

RICO does not provide a death penalty. It is primarily for economic crimes - not murder. Some hitmen get caught up in RICO prosecutions, but if they go to death row it is because of state law murder charges.

adnoid
07-02-2008, 07:51 PM
Is there a possibility that they could be tried federally under the RICO act? And then possibly get the DP?...

Maximum criminal penalty for a RICO conviction is a fine and life in prison.

murdershewrote
07-02-2008, 07:51 PM
Dark Shadows...do you know where the closest medical examiners office would be, I guess that's where they would have taken her. What is the closest "big" town?

Taximom
07-02-2008, 07:53 PM
Gagnon admits to accessing Brooke's myspace page (login/pw rec'd from Jacques) from his TX address on 6/25, so I don't think he was present in VT either.

nanandjim
07-02-2008, 07:53 PM
Because in 2007 Gagnon had a abused A.R., in addition to having photos and porn on his computer, so he was trying to cover his buddies ass so that his wouldnt get caught.
I can't help but think that they both were in cahoots and were somehow going to abduct Brooke. There would be no other reason to post that message the day BEFORE her disappearance. Jacques was setting it up to look like an Internet abduction. Maybe, he was doing this just in case she threatened to tell and he decided to kill her.

I just cannot see Gagnon agreeing to get involved in a murder coverup unless this is the tip of the iceberg for both of them. I just have to shake my head. You mean to tell me that Brooke's mother and AR's mother knew or suspected nothing. You will never get me to believe that AR's mother did not know that something was going on with all of those (neon) signs at her house.

nanandjim
07-02-2008, 07:55 PM
I agree he was complicit in some way. But I do not believe he was physically in Vermont at the time of her death. This is fortunate because it motivated him to rat out Jacques. He is a criminal - no doubt about that. But I don't think that he was present when Jacques raped and killed Brooke.
How do you know that he ratted out Jacques? It sounds like investigators pieced it together using information gathered from the computer and from cell phone records.

Class-z
07-02-2008, 07:55 PM
Damn it all to hell. And no Death Penalty.

Damn it.

I wish they could take him out, no trial, dont' waste the taxpayers money and stake him out in the sun and pour honey all over his gentials and leave him for the wild animals the puke.

angelwngs
07-02-2008, 07:57 PM
Dark Shadows...do you know where the closest medical examiners office would be, I guess that's where they would have taken her. What is the closest "big" town?

I thought the SP said in the press conference that she would be taken to the state crime lab for a formal identification and autopsy. I could be wrong though... The link DS posted is no longer working for me to recheck the video again. Sorry.

philamena
07-02-2008, 07:59 PM
You forgot scumbag number three, HER MOTHER.
May that piece of garbage rot in hell.
Ditto
:clap::clap::clap:
Hopefully her so called mother will be investigated.:furious:
Anyone know where the cousin is?

Has she been put in another home yet?

dark_shadows
07-02-2008, 08:01 PM
How can people who work in law enforcement stand this? I was a dispatcher for a few years in a small Nevada police station. Nothing like what officers and detectives and investigators do, but close enough to see what they do...day after day after day. All that hard work and all those emotions and then to have the courts let the perv go to offend again! It's just so heartbreaking....sorry for the rant...
My very dearest Amster,:blowkiss:
The Occupation of Corrections Officers and Law Enforcement run in my family. Some have since retired and some are still working in those fields here and in other states.
I worked for a police department prior to becoming a Correctional Officer.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

SeriouslySearching
07-02-2008, 08:01 PM
May you rest in peace now, Brooke. You will be remembered. :(

At least, I got to read it here first before I heard it on the news. It is heartwrenching and my prayers go out to Jim, Janet, and her siblings.

I will say an extra prayer for AR. For the courage shown by her telling the truth and allowing Brooke to come home to the family who truly loves her, I applaud her. I hope she gets the help she needs to come to terms with all that has happened.

BrooksAunt, I am so very sorry. Please pass my heartfelt condolences on to Jim and Janet. Hugs~

jep0216
07-02-2008, 08:02 PM
The body will be sent to the state's Chief Medical Examiner in Burlington to determine the time and cause of death