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christine2448
07-03-2008, 12:45 AM
Please continue discussions here.

Links to previous and similar threads can be found at the very bottom of the page.

MissHolmes
07-03-2008, 12:46 AM
MH - you continue to impress with your fine skills!! The letter is excellent should we do a bulk??

Is their a way to fix up all the email addresses and be able to just copy and paste them all at once into the To: line?

Anyone? Anyone?

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 12:48 AM
Dearest Christine,:blowkiss:
Thank-you.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

MissHolmes
07-03-2008, 12:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KR2tonenow http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2345768#post2345768)
MH - you continue to impress with your fine skills!! The letter is excellent should we do a bulk??

Is their a way to fix up all the email addresses and be able to just copy and paste them all at once into the To: line?

Anyone? Anyone?

KR2tonenow
07-03-2008, 12:49 AM
TY!!

Miss Holmes can we forward your letter here? Sure I could do that!!

christine2448
07-03-2008, 12:49 AM
Check it out...someone volunteer to send me a recap, PULEEEEZZZZEEE? I just got home and there is 21 pages!!!!

Help a girl out?? Please PM a recap? Post if you are willing to do it so I don't get 200 pms w/recaps cause I know you all will help me out. :blowkiss:

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 12:51 AM
dark shadows, do you have the link to Diane's afidavit?

MissHolmes
07-03-2008, 12:51 AM
Dearest Christine,:blowkiss:
Thank-you.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

And d_s, I believe I read that Brooks Aunt is Janet Bennett's cousin. IIRC

MissHolmes
07-03-2008, 12:52 AM
TY!!

Miss Holmes can we forward your letter here? Sure I could do that!!

Please repost, retext, what ever it takes:)

christine2448
07-03-2008, 12:52 AM
And d_s, I believe I read that Brooks Aunt is Janet Bennett's cousin. IIRC

That is correct.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 12:53 AM
sorry...I meant SS...sorry.... I just have not read the Afidavit per J's wife

galvino
07-03-2008, 12:56 AM
Christine- Recap- We are FIRED up and ready to take action! Maybe read the last 3 or so pages on last thread to catch up? I am inept at pasting & linking, so...

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 12:56 AM
And d_s, I believe I read that Brooks Aunt is Janet Bennett's cousin. IIRC
Dearest MissHolmes,:blowkiss:
Ok thank-you, I thought I was losing it lol.
So is she going to change her screen name since it is deceiving to people (not in a bad way)?
Brooke's name is spelled wrong on her screen name.


Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

KR2tonenow
07-03-2008, 12:58 AM
OT, FYI

Posted by Tom's Girl 5/6/2006

Megan's Law Report Card
A survey released this week by Parents for Megan's Law compared sex offender registries and community notification programs in all 50 states and Washington, D.C. The group issued the following letter grades:

A+ - Florida

A - Wisconsin

B - Arizona, Alabama, Oklahoma

C - Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, Nebraska, New Jersey, North Dakota, South Carolina, Texas and Washington.

D - Arkansas, Illinois, Kansas, Michigan, Nevada, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island.

F - Alaska, California, Colorado, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia and Wyoming.

christine2448
07-03-2008, 12:58 AM
Christine- Recap- We are FIRED up and ready to take action! Maybe read the last 3 or so pages on last thread to catch up? I am inept at pasting & linking, so...


:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

swanniee11
07-03-2008, 01:00 AM
I think we ( and when I say we I mean all of you who know how to REALLY work a computer) should bring over all the legal stuff including names/addresses etc that we've already figured out so we have access to it and to pick it apart. I WANT TO NAIL THESE SOBS!

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:00 AM
Dark, let me figure it out. I thought I had it from memory of what she wrote...but obviously I don't! She does need to fix the spelling tho. :)

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 01:00 AM
When did Brooke's cousin's boyfriend arrive at the house?

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:01 AM
has anyone read the afidavit per Diane? SS had mentioned it and I had not read it yet. If anyone has the link could you repost? TIA! I am having a blonde moment today! LOL

galvino
07-03-2008, 01:01 AM
Heck- I don't even know how to put these fun emoticons in my posts- I am that inept!

MHolmes- I will add add my name to anything sent to Vermont- just tell me how or PM me- I'll figure out how to view any PM's sometime this century!

swanniee11
07-03-2008, 01:02 AM
OT, FYI

Posted by Tom's Girl 5/6/2006

Megan's Law Report Card
A survey released this week by Parents for Megan's Law compared sex offender registries and community notification programs in all 50 states and Washington, D.C. The group issued the following letter grades:

A+ - Florida

A - Wisconsin

B - Arizona, Alabama, Oklahoma

C - Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Missouri, Nebraska, New Jersey, North Dakota, South Carolina, Texas and Washington.

D - Arkansas, Illinois, Kansas, Michigan, Nevada, New York, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Rhode Island.

F - Alaska, California, Colorado, District of Columbia, Georgia, Hawaii, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oregon, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, West Virginia and Wyoming.

Lovely, we're a D.....

RR0004
07-03-2008, 01:02 AM
Dearest Christine,:blowkiss:
Thank-you.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows
Yup, I read a bit of it...gag me...how does a man like him rise to the stature of "judge"? I did not read the entire thread...was there a reason he retired?

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 01:03 AM
Dark, BrooksAunt is called Aunt because her mother and Brooke's step-mother are sisters. She is the step-mother's cousin. It would make her Brooke's second cousin extended (I think). Aunt and Uncle is what my kids all called my cousins, too. She does need to fix the spelling tho. :)
Dearest SS,:blowkiss:
Thank-you, it was very confusing.
You did great in explaining.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

RR0004
07-03-2008, 01:03 AM
When did Brooke's cousin's boyfriend arrive at the house?

Respectfully,
dark_shadows
He seemed to just appear.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:03 AM
When did Brooke's cousin's boyfriend arrive at the house?

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Hey DS,
From the court docs...it was after he took Brooke upstairs (and it seemed that it was prearranged that way...ie, he told her to leave as soon as he took her upstairs)

RR0004
07-03-2008, 01:04 AM
Heck- I don't even know how to put these fun emoticons in my posts- I am that inept!

MHolmes- I will add add my name to anything sent to Vermont- just tell me how or PM me- I'll figure out how to view any PM's sometime this century!
I, personally, don't know how I got this far online. Can anyone help?!

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:05 AM
galvino...when posting click on go advanced and you see them there

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:05 AM
I think we ( and when I say we I mean all of you who know how to REALLY work a computer) should bring over all the legal stuff including names/addresses etc that we've already figured out so we have access to it and to pick it apart. I WANT TO NAIL THESE SOBS!While it is great that this has sparked an interest in trying to change things, we need to work on it on a different forum. This case is not over and we have limited space without our own forum. If you guys need a thread, I would be glad to start one for that particular purpose for you! :)

KR2tonenow
07-03-2008, 01:05 AM
Post brought forward from Miss Holmes:

Feel free to change the text and repost.

Dear Vermont Senator:

Brooke Bennett was killed by a previously convicted sex offender Michael Jacques. She was 12 years old and was apparently killed by her Uncle for sex. Michael Jacques was let out of prison after serving 3 years for kidnapping and rape, now he has committed murder against his 12 year old niece for sex. You've heard the news, seen the pictures. Do you have children? Are you ready to enact Jessica's Law yet?

The law is named after Jessica Lunsford, a young Florida girl who was raped and murdered in February 2005 by John Couey, a previously convicted sex offender. Public outrage over this case spurred Florida officials to introduce this legislation. Among the key provisions of the law are a mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years in prison[2] and lifetime electronic monitoring[3] of adults convicted of lewd or lascivious acts against a victim less than 12 years old. In Florida, sexual battery or rape of a child less than twelve years old is a capital felony, punishable only by death or life imprisonment with no chance of parole. Taken from Wikipedia.

Please tell me your stance now on this law after this brutal killing of a 12 year old girl in your state by a previous sex offender and kidnapper. Can you tell me whose decision it was to let Michael Jacques out of prison after only serving 3 years for rape and kidnapping?

The country is looking at you to pass this law in your state now.

Hoping to hear from you.


The Vermont Legislature
Legislative Directory E-Mail Addresses for Senators
2007-2008 Legislative Session



Senator State House Address Home Address Work Address Claire Ayer cayer@leg.state.vt.us Susan Bartlett sbartlett@leg.state.vt.us John Campbell jcampbell@leg.state.vt.us vt13@aol.com Bill Carris bcarris@leg.state.vt.us bill.carris@carris.net bill.carris@carris.net Donald "Don" Collins dcollins@leg.state.vt.us James Condos jcondos@leg.state.vt.us George Coppenrath gcoppenrath@leg.state.vt.us george.coppenrath@gmail.com Ann Cummings acummings@leg.state.vt.us William Doyle wdoyle@leg.state.vt.us Ed Flanagan EFlanagan@leg.state.vt.us Harold Giard hgiard@leg.state.vt.us Robert Hartwell rhartwell@leg.state.vt.us hartlaw@sover.net Vincent Illuzzi villuzzi@leg.state.vt.us M. Jane Kitchel janek45@hotmail.com Sara Branon Kittell skittell@leg.state.vt.us Virginia "Ginny" Lyons vlyons@leg.state.vt.us vvlyons@cs.com Mark MacDonald mmacdonald@leg.state.vt.us senatormark@aol.com Hull Maynard Hull@sover.net Richard McCormack rmccormack@leg.state.vt.us dick@mccormack4vt.com Hinda Miller hmiller@leg.state.vt.us hinda@deforestconcepts.com Kevin Mullin kjmbjm@aol.com Alice Nitka anitka@leg.state.vt.us alicenitka@comcast.net Douglas Racine dracine@leg.state.vt.us Philip Scott pscott14@aol.com Richard Sears rsears@leg.state.vt.us Peter Shumlin senprespt@leg.state.vt.us Diane Snelling dsnelling@leg.state.vt.us Jeanette White jwhite@leg.state.vt.us

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 01:05 AM
Yup, I read a bit of it...gag me...how does a man like him rise to the stature of "judge"? I did not read the entire thread...was there a reason he retired?
My dearest RR,:blowkiss:
That is why you should read the whole thread. There is alot on there.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

swanniee11
07-03-2008, 01:06 AM
He seemed to just appear.

Thank you, I read that and thought "wow, taxi?" I would like to know this info as well. Minor or not, theres a 3rd one out there. ( and yet, I don't like the landlord)

christine2448
07-03-2008, 01:07 AM
While it is great that this has sparked an interest in trying to change things, we need to work on it on a different forum. This case is not over and we have limited space without our own forum. If you guys need a thread, I would be glad to start one for that particular purpose for you! :)

I am working on it ;)

galvino
07-03-2008, 01:07 AM
Swannie-

Born in a B-, raised in an A+ and have been living in an "F" state ever since- Why aren't all states an A+ ?

Beyond Belief
07-03-2008, 01:07 AM
Besides the open letter to the Vermont officials, would someone please contact Mark Lunsford and get his butt up to Vermont to help fight this fight again.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:08 AM
Heck- I don't even know how to put these fun emoticons in my posts- I am that inept!Don't feel bad...I was here almost a year before someone finally told me that if you click on post reply instead of quick reply...they pop right up on the right side. (If you click on the more link...the rest come up in a box.)

Beyond Belief
07-03-2008, 01:08 AM
Speaker on OReilly tonight said of Vermonts rehab prog,
"Vermont, your hug a thug program is not working".

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:09 AM
The more info that comes out on this the more disturbed I become! This was absolutely premeditated to the nth degree with numerous players involved in the plot! It is actually so organized that I can hardly believe it at all! I mean, there were so many links in the chain of events that could have broken to expose what was going on before Brooke had to die.

.......shakes head..........

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:09 AM
I am working on it ;)Thanks, Christine~ You are a good egg. (going back to swimming now...just gonna keep swimming...)

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:10 AM
Speaker on OReilly tonight said of Vermonts rehab prog,
"Vermont, your hug a thug program is not working".Hahahahahaha~ Thanks...I needed a laugh.

VTGirl81
07-03-2008, 01:11 AM
I was in the car when my cell phone got a text message and it read "Amber Alert Canceled" I was devasted, I knew what the meant.

I am so outraged, I spoke to a few people in the area about starting a letter writing campaign. I am so glad to see people on here had the same thoughts.

I work in Public Relations and from experience, I think that letters would be more effective in this situation. That way they have to open each and every one, instead of just deleting the emails.

KR2tonenow
07-03-2008, 01:11 AM
You read my mind, BB.

A++ Nationally starting with the President's signature!!

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:12 AM
SS....you mentioned earlier about Diane's afidavit. Do you have a link because I am having bad blonde moments and cannot find it. And sorry in advance for being annoying...I know I already posted this earlier...

christine2448
07-03-2008, 01:12 AM
Thanks, Christine~ You are a good egg. (going back to swimming now...just gonna keep swimming...)


You motivate me darling. You are ona da best eggs around.......I believe I know yer heart....although, you don't always make this easy fer me ;)

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:12 AM
Dearest SS,:blowkiss:
Thank-you, it was very confusing.
You did great in explaining.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadowsUhm...except I was terribly wrong...I think!! I revised my post after I reread it. LOL Sorry!

Reannan
07-03-2008, 01:12 AM
I am sort of out of the entire loop on this case, and am at the mercy of the main stream media. God forbid!!! Anway, I am disgusted, and PISSED as HELL!!! This little girl did not need to die! I have not been able to read the affidavit in the previous thread - it just freezes up on my stupid computer. I feel like I need to read that before I post anything more. Grrrr.....

galvino
07-03-2008, 01:13 AM
Thx Christine!

Dark- I'm SURE that was a typo re the "whore thread" LOL

Nurse- I knew it would take a medical professional to help me learn how to post the emoticons! Now if I could just get up the courage to try and post an advanced reply- I need a shrink!

I will now refrain from going OT.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:13 AM
You motivate me darling. You are ona da best eggs around.......I believe I know yer heart....although, you don't make this easy fer me ;)Heck...I don't even make it easy for me! >wink<

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 01:14 AM
He seemed to just appear.

Hey DS,
From the court docs...it was after he took Brooke upstairs (and it seemed that it was prearranged that way...ie, he told her to leave as soon as he took her upstairs)
Thank-you both very much,:blowkiss::blowkiss:


Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:15 AM
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.....HEY OLD BUDDY! You don't want to read the gagnon afidavit...if you are already pissed you should take some blood pressure medicine first. It is up there with the Johnny Gott conspiracy sex ring theory except it is actually FOUNDED in this case....

It sure speaks volumes for the Johnny case though!

pjop
07-03-2008, 01:15 AM
snip
"Vermont, your hug a thug program is not working".

HA! I love that!

:clap::clap::clap:

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:15 AM
SS....you mentioned earlier about Diane's afidavit. Do you have a link because I am having bad blonde moments and cannot find it. And sorry in advance for being annoying...I know I already posted this earlier...Sorry, you aren't being annoying, Buzzy! (Not sure where you got Diane from...but I think what you mean is where Denise made some statements. Right?) :)

Here you go:

Affidavit against Ray Gagnon (step-father): http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Gagnon_affidavit.pdf

http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8611811

Affidavit against Michael Jacques (Uncle): http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 01:16 AM
Thx Christine!

Dark- I'm SURE that was a typo re the "whore thread" LOL

Nurse- I knew it would take a medical professional to help me learn how to post the emoticons! Now if I could just get up the courage to try and post an advanced reply- I need a shrink!

I will now refrain from going OT.
My dearest Galvino,:blowkiss:
Thank-you so much.:eek:

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

Amster
07-03-2008, 01:20 AM
Do we have a "links" thread?

philamena
07-03-2008, 01:20 AM
Brook'sAunt,
Please know that we all are sending prayers, support and our deepest sympathy's to you and the rest of Brooke's family.

RR0004
07-03-2008, 01:20 AM
galvino...when posting click on go advanced and you see them there
Thanks!!!

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:21 AM
Thank-you both very much,:blowkiss::blowkiss:


Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

you are welcome DS...and you know...the more I chew on this :eat: (G..look how cool...the chewing emoticon), it was so involved and so planned! Considering sex tapes of the young cousin and her boyfriend having sex were also found the boyfriend also had knowledge of what was going on in this "ring" of hellish fire! I bet you it was planned out beforehand for him to pick up the cousin. I bet when it is all said and done there will be cell phone records to support this. I mean, look how stupid they were with the computers! I mean really....pedophiles, you would think, are so used to running under the radar they would know things like that can be traced. I suppose that the uncle thought that if he told LE that Brooke used his computer so he had her passwords that it would fly...what a loser. I am glad that he is so utterly stupid (AND UGLY TO BOOT):saythat:

swanniee11
07-03-2008, 01:22 AM
Swannie-

Born in a B-, raised in an A+ and have been living in an "F" state ever since- Why aren't all states an A+ ?


seems I have not moved much either, born D lived F (canada was not mentioned) and back to D.

I agree, this is a wild fire and we should all be living in A+'s.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:23 AM
Do we have a "links" thread? Hey Amster~ama, I don't think we do...but we need one! All the people involved and their inner~relatedness is giving me a headache the size of Texas! :headache:

Salem
07-03-2008, 01:24 AM
Dearest Christine,:blowkiss:
Thank-you.

Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

Dark Shadows - :blowkiss:

Thank you for the info on the retired judge. I am falling behind here! Christine locked the last thread while I was still trying to catch up. :crazy:

Glad to know the judge is gooooooone!

Salem

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:28 AM
Sorry, you aren't being annoying, Buzzy! (Not sure where you got Diane from...but I think what you mean is where Denise made some statements. Right?) :)

Here you go:

Affidavit against Ray Gagnon (step-father): http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Gagnon_affidavit.pdf

http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8611811

Affidavit against Michael Jacques (Uncle): http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf

SS, you are the complete and utter bomb! And yes, Denise...not Diane...see I told you that I am an idiot today! And BTW...I feel like I know all of you like family...I have been reading here for years but finally was able to get registered! I didn't realize until recently that WS did not accept yahoo addys in registration....duh...

Thanks again. :rocker: (this is the rock on dude emoticon)

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:28 AM
We can still investigate the possibility of the 1985 victim from MJ. We can follow the details of the case and investigate things as they come out, too. We can have a links thread now!

ETA: Christine gave us a Forum!! Thanks!!

christine2448
07-03-2008, 01:29 AM
In order to have a "links" thread, we need a forum which we don't have. I actually think a forum for this case isn't needed because unless there are a lot more players or victims coming out...we will now just go into the phase of trials etc. Brooke has been found, her suspected killer is in custody along with another perp associated directly with her, and we are past the need.

We can still investigate the possibility of the 1985 victim from MJ. We can follow the details of the case and investigate things as they come out, too.


Ahhh, you do have a forum (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=163) ;)

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:32 AM
SS, you are the complete and utter bomb! And yes, Denise...not Diane...see I told you that I am an idiot today! And BTW...I feel like I know all of you like family...I have been reading here for years but finally was able to get registered! I didn't realize until recently that WS did not accept yahoo addys in registration....duh...

Thanks again. :rocker: (this is the rock on dude emoticon)You are welcome! (And that rock on dude emoticon looks like he is on crack!) Welcome to the fam. We are a bit dysfunctional (OK..OK..I put the Dys in dyfunctional..still trying to figure out who puts the FUN in it?!) at times, but a great family anyway. :blowkiss:

ETA: You are not an idiot. :)

adnoid
07-03-2008, 01:32 AM
This is so damn sad.
And to think they weren't even going to report her missing. The scumbags..all of 'em (excluding the bio dad).
Especially, those sisters...Cassandra and Denise.

Why? They knew where she was. :furious:

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:34 AM
Ahhh, you do have a forum (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=163) ;)Well...I will be dipped! We DO! Thanks! I guess we did need one after all. LOL

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:34 AM
hey everybuggy,
here is scared monkey's version of the affidavits....much easier to read as the black peal just wasn't cuttin' it

http://missingexploited.com/2008/07/02/disturbing-affidavit-regarding-sex-offender-uncle-michael-jacques-in-the-case-of-missing-brooke-bennett-breckenridge-program/

adnoid
07-03-2008, 01:35 AM
Another possible theory...................Jacques contacted Gagnon in Texas, who changed Brooke's MySpace page to indicate she was leaving to meet someone and going to Texas....

If you read the affidavit the IP address used is in there. I traced it to a Road Runner cable subscriber in Texas.

RR0004
07-03-2008, 01:36 AM
Ahhh, you do have a forum (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=163) ;)
Whoa...you're good!

adnoid
07-03-2008, 01:37 AM
...If authorities can prove Jacques killed his niece, he would be eligible for the federal death penalty, said Michael Mello, a professor at Vermont Law School in South Royalton.
...

In a day of terrible news, one potential bright spot.

Alcina
07-03-2008, 01:37 AM
Ahhh, you do have a forum (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=163) ;)

Thank you! :blowkiss:

galvino
07-03-2008, 01:37 AM
I am not going to contribute One Red Cent :furious: to Brooke's mother's 'fund' that she has set up, but I am wondering if anyone (Brooke's Aunt?) has anything set up for Brooke's Father's side of the family, like a condolence page. I would like to contribute in some small way, even if it is only to send them a prayer. I hope they are aware that so many of us are devastated for their loss (and I include Brooke's mother's side of the family in my condolence).

(O/T I don't see the rose emoticon in this list, but I must say that I am proud of myself for being able to post a smiley- this is new for me! Is ther a 'patting myself on the back' smiley here somewhere?)

christine2448
07-03-2008, 01:39 AM
Thanks adnoid for helping get the forum set up :blowkiss: Now spread out, organize, and do what you do peeps.

RR0004
07-03-2008, 01:41 AM
You are welcome! (And that rock on dude emoticon looks like he is on crack!) Welcome to the fam. We are a bit dysfunctional (OK..OK..I put the Dys in dyfunctional..still trying to figure out who puts the FUN in it?!) at times, but a great family anyway. :blowkiss:

ETA: You are not an idiot. :)



OOPS- this was meant for you too Nursebeeme!!

You sure are having fun with those doohickies! After an extremely exhausting day, both mentally and physically, it's good to smile. Night folks...whatever is needed to move this to the next step I'm here for you all.

Sweet dreams angel...know that you have touched the lives of many.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 01:43 AM
:rose:

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:44 AM
Chris and Adnoid....danke!

RR...doohickies...TFF! Doohickie is one of my most favorite~ist words!

galvino
07-03-2008, 01:45 AM
Nighty nite RR- I do wanna talk later about steps we can collectively take- Sleep on it (but sleep well!)

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 01:46 AM
adnoid...since you are the supreme computer person....is it possible to screen capture the affidavits? Black pearl is drowning with hits and it doesn't load

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 01:47 AM
Thanks adnoid for helping get the forum set up :blowkiss: Now spread out, organize, and do what you do peeps.

Dearest Christine,:blowkiss:

Thanks so much.

Love and Respect from your peep,
dark_shadows

SuziQ
07-03-2008, 01:47 AM
A forum? thank you mods!

Leila
07-03-2008, 01:47 AM
Speaker on OReilly tonight said of Vermonts rehab prog,
"Vermont, your hug a thug program is not working".

That quote is right on! It would make a great bumper-sticker!

Carrington
07-03-2008, 01:48 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2008/07/02/more_than_200_people_gather_to_mourn_slain_vt_girl


RANDOLPH, Vt.—About 300 people gathered Wednesday night to mourn the death of 12-year-old Brooke Bennett, whose body was found near her uncle's home a week after she had disappeared.


The gathering was originally organized as a candlelight vigil for Brooke's safe return. Authorities found her dead about 4:45 p.m.
"Brooke Marie, I love you so much," her mother, Cassandra Gagnon, said at the event at the town gazebo. A large photo of Brooke was on display. "I just ask that justice be done for the person who took my baby away," she said, sobbing.
She thanked the crowd for attending. "I ask for continued support because this has just begun for me," Gagnon said.
Brooke's father, James Bennett, added, "I know Brooke knows that we love her and will always love her."

Salem
07-03-2008, 01:48 AM
Sorry, you aren't being annoying, Buzzy! (Not sure where you got Diane from...but I think what you mean is where Denise made some statements. Right?) :)

Here you go:

Affidavit against Ray Gagnon (step-father): http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Gagnon_affidavit.pdf

http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8611811

Affidavit against Michael Jacques (Uncle): http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf


OH my God!!!! That's all I can say. I hope this man frys - big time. This young girl alludes to the fact that others might have died. She doesn't know why she is still alive. I am totally freaked out :eek:

Salem

RR0004
07-03-2008, 01:49 AM
Chris and Adnoid....danke!

RR...doohickies...TFF! Doohickie is one of my most favorite~ist words!
Well, when you have as many senior moments as I do, it sure comes in handy!


:blowkiss: To all...

evelyn24
07-03-2008, 01:51 AM
http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2008/07/02/more_than_200_people_gather_to_mourn_slain_vt_girl


RANDOLPH, Vt.—About 300 people gathered Wednesday night to mourn the death of 12-year-old Brooke Bennett, whose body was found near her uncle's home a week after she had disappeared.


The gathering was originally organized as a candlelight vigil for Brooke's safe return. Authorities found her dead about 4:45 p.m.
"Brooke Marie, I love you so much," her mother, Cassandra Gagnon, said at the event at the town gazebo. A large photo of Brooke was on display. "I just ask that justice be done for the person who took my baby away," she said, sobbing.
She thanked the crowd for attending. "I ask for continued support because this has just begun for me," Gagnon said.
Brooke's father, James Bennett, added, "I know Brooke knows that we love her and will always love her."

First of all, THANK YOU, for the Brooke Bennett forum.

This is very sad, and I'm happy to see the mom at least speak out against the uncle. A little too late, but she still needed to do it, because the last thing I want to see is anyone in this family defending him by saying they thought he was nice...blah blah blah.

cheko1
07-03-2008, 01:52 AM
Why? They knew where she was. :furious:


Adnoid I'm with you! I think the family knew way more, thats why they never wanted to call the police & report her missing.They gave MJ all the time in the world to rape, murder & bury her. The entire thing was totally premeditated.

The mom tonight asking for support.... That just blows me away, from the mom, aunt, Grandma & probably on down the line. She could of cared less about Brooke. It was her job as a mother to protect her babies. Instead she fed her to the worst of the worst.Nancy Grace even commented tonight that she never seen any tears in moms eyes.

Amster
07-03-2008, 01:52 AM
Hey Amster~ama, I don't think we do...but we need one! All the people involved and their inner~relatedness is giving me a headache the size of Texas! :headache:

lol....me too!

Jaded
07-03-2008, 01:54 AM
Post brought forward from Miss Holmes:

Feel free to change the text and repost.

Dear Vermont Senator:

Brooke Bennett was killed by a previously convicted sex offender Michael Jacques. She was 12 years old and was apparently killed by her Uncle for sex. Michael Jacques was let out of prison after serving 3 years for kidnapping and rape, now he has committed murder against his 12 year old niece for sex. You've heard the news, seen the pictures. Do you have children? Are you ready to enact Jessica's Law yet?

The law is named after Jessica Lunsford, a young Florida girl who was raped and murdered in February 2005 by John Couey, a previously convicted sex offender. Public outrage over this case spurred Florida officials to introduce this legislation. Among the key provisions of the law are a mandatory minimum sentence of 25 years in prison[2] and lifetime electronic monitoring[3] of adults convicted of lewd or lascivious acts against a victim less than 12 years old. In Florida, sexual battery or rape of a child less than twelve years old is a capital felony, punishable only by death or life imprisonment with no chance of parole. Taken from Wikipedia.

Please tell me your stance now on this law after this brutal killing of a 12 year old girl in your state by a previous sex offender and kidnapper. Can you tell me whose decision it was to let Michael Jacques out of prison after only serving 3 years for rape and kidnapping?

The country is looking at you to pass this law in your state now.

Hoping to hear from you.


The Vermont Legislature
Legislative Directory E-Mail Addresses for Senators
2007-2008 Legislative Session



Senator State House Address Home Address Work Address Claire Ayer cayer@leg.state.vt.us Susan Bartlett sbartlett@leg.state.vt.us John Campbell jcampbell@leg.state.vt.us vt13@aol.com Bill Carris bcarris@leg.state.vt.us bill.carris@carris.net bill.carris@carris.net Donald "Don" Collins dcollins@leg.state.vt.us James Condos jcondos@leg.state.vt.us George Coppenrath gcoppenrath@leg.state.vt.us george.coppenrath@gmail.com Ann Cummings acummings@leg.state.vt.us William Doyle wdoyle@leg.state.vt.us Ed Flanagan EFlanagan@leg.state.vt.us Harold Giard hgiard@leg.state.vt.us Robert Hartwell rhartwell@leg.state.vt.us hartlaw@sover.net Vincent Illuzzi villuzzi@leg.state.vt.us M. Jane Kitchel janek45@hotmail.com Sara Branon Kittell skittell@leg.state.vt.us Virginia "Ginny" Lyons vlyons@leg.state.vt.us vvlyons@cs.com Mark MacDonald mmacdonald@leg.state.vt.us senatormark@aol.com Hull Maynard Hull@sover.net Richard McCormack rmccormack@leg.state.vt.us dick@mccormack4vt.com Hinda Miller hmiller@leg.state.vt.us hinda@deforestconcepts.com Kevin Mullin kjmbjm@aol.com Alice Nitka anitka@leg.state.vt.us alicenitka@comcast.net Douglas Racine dracine@leg.state.vt.us Philip Scott pscott14@aol.com Richard Sears rsears@leg.state.vt.us Peter Shumlin senprespt@leg.state.vt.us Diane Snelling dsnelling@leg.state.vt.us Jeanette White jwhite@leg.state.vt.us

cayer@leg.state.vt.us; sbartlett@leg.state.vt.us; jcampbell@leg.state.vt.us; vt13@aol.com; bcarris@leg.state.vt.us; bill.carris@carris.net; bill.carris@carris.net; dcollins@leg.state.vt.us; jcondos@leg.state.vt.us; gcoppenrath@leg.state.vt.us; george.coppenrath@gmail.com; acummings@leg.state.vt.us; wdoyle@leg.state.vt.us; EFlanagan@leg.state.vt.us; hgiard@leg.state.vt.us; rhartwell@leg.state.vt.us; hartlaw@sover.net; villuzzi@leg.state.vt.us; janek45@hotmail.com; skittell@leg.state.vt.us; vlyons@leg.state.vt.us; vvlyons@cs.com; mmacdonald@leg.state.vt.us; senatormark@aol.com; Hull@sover.net; rmccormack@leg.state.vt.us; dick@mccormack4vt.com; hmiller@leg.state.vt.us; hinda@deforestconcepts.com; kjmbjm@aol.com; anitka@leg.state.vt.us; alicenitka@comcast.net; dracine@leg.state.vt.us; pscott14@aol.com; rsears@leg.state.vt.us; senprespt@leg.state.vt.us; dsnelling@leg.state.vt.us; jwhite@leg.state.vt.us

Copy and paste into email minus all the names. I figured it would be easier. Sorry if someone else has posted one.

cheko1
07-03-2008, 01:54 AM
First of all, THANK YOU, for the Brooke Bennett forum.

This is very sad, and I'm happy to see the mom at least speak out against the uncle. A little too late, but she still needed to do it, because the last thing I want to see is anyone in this family defending him by saying they thought he was nice...blah blah blah.


Kind of like Grandma stating today that she loved MJ!!!

cheko1
07-03-2008, 01:56 AM
Ahhh, you do have a forum (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=163) ;)


Christine thank you very much for the forum!!! We totally appreciate it. :clap::clap::clap:

Amster
07-03-2008, 01:58 AM
YIPPEE SKIPPEE!!! We have a forum!!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!

evelyn24
07-03-2008, 02:03 AM
Kind of like Grandma stating today that she loved MJ!!!

Yea..I really don't want to read or hear anything like that anymore.



Also, from the link about the vigil:

"I loved having her in my classroom," said Gary Finch, Brooke's homeroom and math teacher.

He said she was a very energetic and enthusiastic learner. "She was always volunteering, always with a smile on her face. Smart, creative. It's a tragedy. It's unbelievable. It's hard to comprehend. I didn't think anything like this would happen to such a great kid."

Finch said at the start of the school year, Brooke was nervous about transferring from her small elementary school to the high school.

"She conquered that," he said. "She didn't conquer this."

Senseless, and totally avoidable tragedy.
:(

Carrington
07-03-2008, 02:03 AM
[quote=evelyn24;2346028]First of all, THANK YOU, for the Brooke Bennett forum.

On behalf of Christine and Adnoid, you are entirely welcome.
:)

galvino
07-03-2008, 02:03 AM
Nursebeeme & Amster- the convoluted nature of this cast o' characters and the tales they have spun are beginning to make the FLDS family trees look 'normal', As Bill the Cat once said- "ACK!"

Nurse- your name reminds me of something I observed once on the MARTA train once-

this mother turned around in her seat and said to her kid "Shaneekwa (sp) , I have two words to say to you right now- "Be have!"

EYL
07-03-2008, 02:04 AM
The Vermont Legislature Legislative Directory

http://www.leg.state.vt.us/legdir/alpha.cfm?Body=S

Includes mailing addresses, email addresses, fax numbers, and phone numbers

* I have been lurking here for a while.... want to thank you all for what you do. My thoughts and prayers are filled with Brooke Bennett.

Ladybass0711
07-03-2008, 02:15 AM
Whoops it was a repeat! Sorry bout that!

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 02:16 AM
Speaking of crashing...WS is acting up again.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 02:17 AM
A thread for the Vermont Legislature stuff and discussions. Please put all of it over here: Demand Change In Vermont Law http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2346109#post2346109

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 02:17 AM
EYL, thanks for that link!

Galvino......LOL!

Salem
07-03-2008, 02:19 AM
Adnoid I'm with you! I think the family knew way more, thats why they never wanted to call the police & report her missing.They gave MJ all the time in the world to rape, murder & bury her. The entire thing was totally premeditated.

The mom tonight asking for support.... That just blows me away, from the mom, aunt, Grandma & probably on down the line. She could of cared less about Brooke. It was her job as a mother to protect her babies. Instead she fed her to the worst of the worst.Nancy Grace even commented tonight that she never seen any tears in moms eyes.

The other mom talks about signs of abuse towards her daughter in the affidavit against MJ. How could she not know???? 5 plus years???

I hope they bust the whole lot of them. They are responsible for what happened to this girl and they should all pay.

Salem

adnoid
07-03-2008, 02:20 AM
adnoid...since you are the supreme computer person....is it possible to screen capture the affidavits? Black pearl is drowning with hits and it doesn't load

I've downloaded them - but they are at my office, I had to run out for KPUD and I did not get a chance to copy them to my laptop. I'll put them up tomorrow after I get in. I've got a breakfast meeting, so probably after 10:00 AM PDT.

Tom'sGirl
07-03-2008, 02:20 AM
Speaking of crashing...WS is acting up again.
YES it is............I had to delete my Photo thread when I saw you had started one, then you deleted yours and so I had to post it again.

Dang hang up!

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 02:24 AM
LOL I saw that and thought WTH?! We know you are our photo queen tho. :) I was just posting it to get you started.

Leila
07-03-2008, 02:25 AM
Adnoid I'm with you! I think the family knew way more, thats why they never wanted to call the police & report her missing.They gave MJ all the time in the world to rape, murder & bury her. The entire thing was totally premeditated.

The mom tonight asking for support.... That just blows me away, from the mom, aunt, Grandma & probably on down the line. She could of cared less about Brooke. It was her job as a mother to protect her babies. Instead she fed her to the worst of the worst.Nancy Grace even commented tonight that she never seen any tears in moms eyes.

Cheko..................I agree! The family waited 12 hours to report Brooke missing, and even then, it was a family friend who made the report. I keep wondering if those 12 hours would have made a difference in the outcome?

If the family had reported Brooke missing right away, she may have been found at the uncle's house before he harmed her.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 02:25 AM
thanks adnoid

galvino
07-03-2008, 02:27 AM
Does anyone know who the family friend who reported her missing is?

Fairy1
07-03-2008, 02:30 AM
A thread for the Vermont Legislature stuff and discussions. Please put all of it over here: Demand Change In Vermont Law http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2346109#post2346109

It's not just Vermont. There need to be sweeping changes all over the US! We read here every day and it never changes. I guarantee, if it were mostly boys and men being raped, prostituted and exploited, things would ALREADY be waaaaaaaaay different. Not a sexist view, just factual.

Beyond Belief
07-03-2008, 02:31 AM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66865&highlight=vermont+law

Beyond Belief
07-03-2008, 02:34 AM
It's not just Vermont. There need to be sweeping changes all over the US! We read here every day and it never changes. I guarantee, if it were mostly boys and men being raped, prostituted and exploited, things would ALREADY be waaaaaaaaay different. Not a sexist view, just factual.
Jessica's law has already been passed in 33 states.
http://www.jmlfoundation.org/home.html

1. Alabama: Passed the Community Notification Act
2. Alaska: Passed Senate Bills 218 and 303
3. Arkansas: Passed the Child Protection Act
4. Arizona: Passed 13-1423 and 13-604.01
5. California: Passed Proposition 83
6. Connecticut: Passed Senate Bill 1458* (25-year mandatory sentencing, Gov. Rell signed into law 7/31/07)
7. Delaware: Passed Jessica’s Law (House Bill 404)
8. Florida: Passed Jessica’s Law
9. Georgia: Passed House Bill 1059
10. Indiana: Passed Senate Bill 0012 and House Bill 1155
11. Kansas: Passed House Bill 2567
12. Louisiana: Passed Senate Bills 164, 612-2006 (Act 663), 2 (Act 103), House Bill 80 (Act 24), House Bill 561 (Act 36)
13. Maryland: Passed House Bill 2* (2006), amended law by passing House Bill 930, Senate Bill 413 (March 2007, Gov. O’Malley signed into law 5/1707)
14. Michigan: Passed Jessica’s Law, House Bills 5421-22, 5531, and 5532
15. Missouri: Passed Jessica’s Law
16. Montana: Passed Senate Bill 547 (Gov. Schweitzer signed into law 5/11/07)
17. Nebraska: Passed Legislative Bill 1199
18. Nevada: Passed Senate Bill 341 (NRS 179B.250)
19. New Hampshire: Passed House Bill 1692-FN
20. North Carolina: Passed House Bill 1896* (legislation pending for 2008)
21. North Dakota: Passed House Bills 1216 & 1217, Senate Bill 2029 (Gov. Hoever signed into law 4/24/07)
22. Ohio: Passed Senate Bill 260
23. Oklahoma: Passed Senate Bill 631
24. Oregon: Passed House Bill 3511
25. Pennsylvania: Passed Senate Bill 944
26. Rhode Island: Passed the Jessica Lunsford Act
27. South Carolina: Passed Jessica’s Law*
28. Tennessee: Passed Jessica’s Law
29. Texas: Passed Jessica’s Law (House Bill 8)
30. Virginia: Passed House Bill 486
31. Washington: Passed House Bill 3277*
32. West Virginia: Passed The Child Protection Act of 2006
33. Wisconsin: Passed Jessica’s Law (AB 784 and 591)

galvino
07-03-2008, 02:35 AM
Fairy- You ain't kidding!

christine2448
07-03-2008, 02:35 AM
Speaking of crashing...WS is acting up again.

We are all in full force at back up time, the site was backing up, all should be fine now. :blowkiss:

evelyn24
07-03-2008, 02:37 AM
Originally Posted by cheko1
Adnoid I'm with you! I think the family knew way more, thats why they never wanted to call the police & report her missing.They gave MJ all the time in the world to rape, murder & bury her. The entire thing was totally premeditated.

The mom tonight asking for support.... That just blows me away, from the mom, aunt, Grandma & probably on down the line. She could of cared less about Brooke. It was her job as a mother to protect her babies. Instead she fed her to the worst of the worst.Nancy Grace even commented tonight that she never seen any tears in moms eyes.


To me that raises red flags all over the place that they at least were scared he did something to her.
Why would you not call immediately after finding out she's supposedly not with the uncle anymore, she supposedly with some friend off to a hospital, with no cell phone, and Brooke doesn't have a history of running away or taking off for hours, according to Jim Bennett. The mom wasn't a little upset!!
Why didn't they call and report her missing??

christine2448
07-03-2008, 02:37 AM
Speaking of...Please visit Project Jason's Campaign for the Missing. http://voice4themissing.blogspot.com/2005/12/121305-campaign-for-missing-2006.html

You can make a difference in your state!

Email me or Kelly to inquire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 02:38 AM
thinking back on the surv. video from the convenience store....

When I first watched it I noticed that Brooke was standing behind her uncle while he paid for something (which WAS NOT COFFEE...which he had claimed he purchased) with her arms crossed like she was waiting on him... She never looked around or out the windows as if looking for someone she was meeting up with. At the time it struck me as very odd...and now it nearly shouts at me to watch it again.

Leila, I too wonder what took so long in the reporting of her missing. Could it be related to parent work schedules?

Amster
07-03-2008, 02:40 AM
It's not just Vermont. There need to be sweeping changes all over the US! We read here every day and it never changes. I guarantee, if it were mostly boys and men being raped, prostituted and exploited, things would ALREADY be waaaaaaaaay different. Not a sexist view, just factual.

Lots of stories about boys being raped by female teachers.....and to most of the media it's "ho-hum", especially if the teacher is cute. Of course, this is different. None of those boys were murdered. Thank God.

I don't know what it will take before judges, parole boards, politicians, etc. will realize that sex perverts cannot be treated and cured. I just don't know...:confused:

Chica
07-03-2008, 02:42 AM
I hope I don't upset too many people, but I hope you will just take a second to hear (read??) me out...

Even though I don't agree with Brooke's mother in that she let Brooke visit her cousins' house when she knew an RSO resided there, I still feel very bad for her - she lost her youngest child! I am absolutely certain that she would give anything to 'undo' this, but it is just not possible. I guess I just hate pointing fingers at someone when they are not only down, but when they are at the absolute lowest place they could-or-will ever be.

I think it is possibleprobable that she may have even raised concerns about letting Brooke (and her other children??) go to their cousins' house when the RSO was there, and that people (sister, mother, etc.) could have very well convinced her that there was no reason to be concerned...

As we all know, sex offenders are very good at manipulating people...Jacques may very well have convinced everyone in his inner circle that the charges were a mistake...since the first victim (that we know of!) was 18 when the rape/kidnapping occurred, he may have even given the FALSE explanation that they were 'dating' and she was mad and made up the charges and he pleaded guilty out of the kindness of his heart so she would not be traumatized by having to testify...we all know that's not how it happened, but he may have been able to convince his family because that is what they wanted to believe...

I guess I am trying to request that we don't jump all over mom just yet - let's wait and see how this plays out...let's give her the benefit of the doubt for a bit.

I admit that I am not crazy about the way she handled the entire situation, but I am sure that she also is not crazy about the way she handled the entire situation!

I have always tried my hardest not to judge others, and to give people the benefit of the doubt.

A sincere 'thank you' for hearing me out...

:couch:

Amster
07-03-2008, 02:42 AM
thinking back on the surv. video from the convenience store....

When I first watched it I noticed that Brooke was standing behind her uncle while he paid for something (which WAS NOT COFFEE...which he had claimed he purchased) with her arms crossed like she was waiting on him... She never looked around or out the windows as if looking for someone she was meeting up with. At the time it struck me as very odd...and now it nearly shouts at me to watch it again.

Leila, I too wonder what took so long in the reporting of her missing. Could it be related to parent work schedules?

I thought he did buy coffee and ciggs?

Carrington
07-03-2008, 02:44 AM
Do we know where Denise works?
She had to be somewhere that MJ thought he was safe to do his dirty deeds.
Cassandra, do we know if she has a job?

galvino
07-03-2008, 02:45 AM
Thx again Christine! Goodnite all-
I appreciate the discourse and discussion.

concerning the continuing victimization of children in this country, and the possibility of people like us banding together to change what is broken, I quote Todd Beamer...

"Let's Roll!"

Teresa Larson
07-03-2008, 02:45 AM
I read the affidavit I guess I must be blind because I couldn't find any place that said the Aunt or Mother knew about this. What page is it on?

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 02:46 AM
amster,
In the video all I noticed (with my poor eyesight lol) was a small item that fit in his hand...like cigs or something. The coffee thing was part of his cooked up story with the other female victim...she was told to tell LE that the coffee sucked so they then went to Dunkin Donuts...

Either way....his coaching of the other victim certainly proves premed...

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 02:47 AM
If you guys haven't checked out the other threads on this forum yet...feel free! (If you need help how to get there...just ask!)

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 02:48 AM
:bedtime:Nighty night Galvino!

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 02:50 AM
I read the affidavit I guess I must be blind because I couldn't find any place that said the Aunt or Mother knew about this. What page is it on? http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf It is on page 3.

galvino
07-03-2008, 02:50 AM
Nurse-

Be Have!

Carrington
07-03-2008, 02:51 AM
Chica, I understand how you feel.
However, I don't remember all the details but, I think it was a brutal rape, handcuffed and beaten. She was also a co-worker.
Plus, he also had a Grand Larceny charge against him. I don't know what that was about.
There is a link to his crimes around here, someone may have it, and post it. :eek:
IMO

evelyn24
07-03-2008, 02:53 AM
I hope I don't upset too many people, but I hope you will just take a second to hear (read??) me out...

Even though I don't agree with Brooke's mother in that she let Brooke visit her cousins' house when she knew an RSO resided there, I still feel very bad for her - she lost her youngest child! I am absolutely certain that she would give anything to 'undo' this, but it is just not possible. I guess I just hate pointing fingers at someone when they are not only down, but when they are at the absolute lowest place they could-or-will ever be.

I think it is possible/probable that she may have even raised concerns about letting Brooke (and her other children??) go to their cousins' house when the RSO was there, and that people (sister, mother, etc.) could have very well convinced her that there was no reason to be concerned...

As we all know, sex offenders are very good at manipulating people...Jacques may very well have convinced everyone in his inner circle that the charges were a mistake...since the first victim (that we know of!) was 18 when the rape/kidnapping occurred, he may have even given the explanation that they were dating and she was mad and made up the charges and he pleaded guilty out of the kindness of his heart so she would not be traumatized by having to testify...

I guess I am trying to request that we don't jump all over mom just yet - let's wait and see how this plays out...let's give her the benefit of the doubt for a bit.

I admit that I am not crazy about the way she handled the entire situation, but I am sure that she also is not crazy about the way she handled the entire situation!

I have always tried my hardest not to judge others, and to give people the benefit of the doubt.

A sincere 'thank you' for hearing me out...

:couch:

I understand you pov, and maybe tomorrow when I'm more calm, I'll feel some compassion for Cassandra.
However, you'll never convince me to feel anything but disgust for her sister Denise.
Sorry.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 02:53 AM
TL, It wasn't in the affidavits. It is just speculation here because the other cousin/victim was abused by this same man for five years right under her mother's nose...and he was also a known registered sex offender and the last one seen with Brooke. People here were just wondering why her mother let her be around this man and why so many hours passed since she had gone missing.

On the other hand, I forget who posted this earlier, but sex offenders are a very manipulitive bunch and they come up with all types of ways to instill a false sense of trust in victims and most likely the parents of said victims.

Salem
07-03-2008, 02:53 AM
I read the affidavit I guess I must be blind because I couldn't find any place that said the Aunt or Mother knew about this. What page is it on?

In the affidavit agains MJ - Denise talks about finding her daughter in a towel, KY Jelly and child porn on the computer.

Salem

Chica
07-03-2008, 02:54 AM
Chica, I understand how you feel.
However, I don't remember all the details but, I think it was a brutal rape, handcuffed and beaten. She was also a co-worker.
Plus, he also had a Grand Larceny charge against him. I don't know what that was about.
There is a link to his crimes around here, someone may have it, and post it. :eek:
IMO

I TOTALLY agree that it was a HORRENDOUS rape...I was just giving an example of what he may have told his family/friends...I'll go back to my post and make it clear!!

Fairy1
07-03-2008, 02:55 AM
Lots of stories about boys being raped by female teachers.....and to most of the media it's "ho-hum", especially if the teacher is cute. Of course, this is different. None of those boys were murdered. Thank God.

I don't know what it will take before judges, parole boards, politicians, etc. will realize that sex perverts cannot be treated and cured. I just don't know...:confused:

Nope - not the same. I'm not saying women can't be sexual predators, but it's NEVER the same. I'm not saying it's okay - but it's so very different.

I totally agree with you in that these freaks cannot be rehabilitated. I don't know what kind of studies the "authorities" do on these freaks, but they are not fixable. Jacques did 3 years for his prior offense (the one he was caught for!). How is that sufficient? He basically set up a "candy store" and he - and who knows how many others??? - were the kids! The family was definitely complicit - to what degree we have yet to learn. I guarantee, that house was built on child porn.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 02:55 AM
Chica, I understand how you feel.
However, I don't remember all the details but, I think it was a brutal rape, handcuffed and beaten. She was also a co-worker.
Plus, he also had a Grand Larceny charge against him. I don't know what that was about.
There is a link to his crimes around here, someone may have it, and post it. :eek:
IMOIf they find the link...please post it on the new thread for Michael Jacques Media Links, too! Thanks!

Btw~ The details are that she was an 18yo co-worker in a fast food place. He and another person kidnapped her. He tied her hands, put a rope around her neck, stuffed a cloth in her mouth, and continually raped her for hours.

Beyond Belief
07-03-2008, 02:57 AM
Thank you for your email. Due to the large number of emails received it may take a little time to respond. I will try to reply as soon as possible
Diane Snelling

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 02:57 AM
oh....and also TL...the part about the aunt/wife of suspect, there was some info in that affidavit...that the mother came upstairs to her bathroom to find her daughter wrapped in a towel, ky jelly and an adult dvd in her marital bedroom, and a dry shower.... but when she asked what b was doing...b said she had taken a shower. The Aunt also found male and female child porn on the computer with children the same age as her daughter and a dildo in the child's bedroom.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 02:57 AM
TL, It wasn't in the affidavits. It is just speculation here because the other cousin/victim was abused by this same man for five years right under her mother's nose...and he was also a known registered sex offender and the last one seen with Brooke. People here were just wondering why her mother let her be around this man and why so many hours passed since she had gone missing.

On the other hand, I forget who posted this earlier, but sex offenders are a very manipulitive bunch and they come up with all types of ways to instill a false sense of trust in victims and most likely the parents of said victims.It was in the affidavit of Michael Jacques. It wasn't speculation at all. It was direct testimony to LE from Denise Jacques (wife) and her daughter (AR) the other victim who led LE to both men. http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 02:59 AM
Thank you for your email. Due to the large number of emails received it may take a little time to respond. I will try to reply as soon as possible
Diane SnellingI beg of you guys to keep this on the other thread set up for just that purpose please. :)

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:00 AM
ss...I fixed it...right about your post....number 135..

The speculation was on the part of the mother....sorry....

Beyond Belief
07-03-2008, 03:00 AM
I beg of you guys to keep this on the other thread set up for just that purpose please. :)
Got to get those here over to there to make that work.:)

Fairy1
07-03-2008, 03:00 AM
I read the affidavit I guess I must be blind because I couldn't find any place that said the Aunt or Mother knew about this. What page is it on?

MJ was a CONVICTED child sexual predator. The family knew that. It's not in the affidavit.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:00 AM
I understand you pov, and maybe tomorrow when I'm more calm, I'll feel some compassion for Cassandra.
However, you'll never convince me to feel anything but disgust for her sister Denise.
Sorry.I agree...just not today and I can only say maybe for tomorrow. I am too angry. :furious:

Teresa Larson
07-03-2008, 03:02 AM
http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf It is on page 3.

Thanks! The affidavit I read didn't have any of this on it. If the Mother knew is it possible that's why they broke up :waitasec: After reading what Brooke wrote on her myspace it seems to me like she was sexually abused for a long time. The Mother's boyfriend might not be the first one who molested her. Not all Mothers know when their daughters are being abused However some do and they blame the daughter because they don't believe their boyfriend would ever do such a thing. It's easier for them to be in denial.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:02 AM
I am angry too....especially on the tails of reading about the mentally challenged kid being locked in a car for 17 hours and no one even went to look for him!

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:03 AM
ss...I fixed it...right about your post....number 135..

The speculation was on the part of the mother....sorry....Yes...the mother wasn't mentioned in the affidavits and we can only speculate on her possible involvement or neglectful treatment of Brooke. However, with this outcome...it is pretty obvious that she did neglect her and failed miserably to protect her.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:04 AM
Yes...the mother wasn't mentioned in the affidavits and we can only speculate on her possible involvement or neglectful treatment of Brooke. However, with this outcome...it is pretty obvious that she did neglect her and failed miserably to protect her.
Exactly...and well stated.

Teresa Larson
07-03-2008, 03:05 AM
MJ was a CONVICTED child sexual predator. The family knew that. It's not in the affidavit.


Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching
http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents..._affidavit.pdf (http://blackpearl.wcax.com/documents/Jacques_affidavit.pdf) It is on page 3.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:05 AM
I have a question for you WSers.... Do you think he planned to kill her or she fought back and he killed her?

christine2448
07-03-2008, 03:08 AM
Thx again Christine! Goodnite all-
I appreciate the discourse and discussion.

concerning the continuing victimization of children in this country, and the possibility of people like us banding together to change what is broken, I quote Todd Beamer...

"Let's Roll!"
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:08 AM
Thanks! The affidavit I read didn't have any of this on it. If the Mother knew is it possible that's why they broke up :waitasec: After reading what Brooke wrote on her myspace it seems to me like she was sexually abused for a long time. The Mother's boyfriend might not be the first one who molested her. Not all Mothers know when their daughters are being abused However some do and they blame the daughter because they don't believe their boyfriend would ever do such a thing. It's easier for them to be in denial. The step-father Ray Gagnon was living with Cassandra (mom) in Alabama from the time that Brooke was 3 until she was 9 when they moved back to VT. The past year and a half he has lived in TX, but frequently visits the family. The mom had a bf named Tim (according to BD who claims to know him and says he is a drunk) until Ray came back this time and she ditched him because Ray would be here. Ray admitted to having tons of child porn as young as 5 yo on his computer and various places. He also admitted having sex with RA and MJ at the same time. My guess is that he did in fact have sex with Brooke during those years. I believe it will begin to all come out as this case against her step-father grows. As far as the mom...same goes for her. We will learn how much she knew and when.

The entire family both sides knew about MJ's past history and convictions. The bio father tried to get the mom to keep her away from him to no avail.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:11 AM
I have a question for you WSers.... Do you think he planned to kill her or she fought back and he killed her?I am positive he planned to kill her before he dropped her off at the store without a doubt.

I will be surprised to learn she fought up until she knew he was going to kill her. Then I bet she did everything she could to stay alive. Bless her heart.

Teresa Larson
07-03-2008, 03:12 AM
I have a question for you WSers.... Do you think he planned to kill her or she fought back and he killed her?

If you read about what Brooke said on myspace it says she wanted to have sex with him. She even asked him to meet her. I doubt he killed her because she refused or fought back. I think she has been sexually abused for a long time. I agree that he probably planned on killing her though. IMO

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:16 AM
If you read about what Brooke said on myspace it says she wanted to have sex with him. She even asked him to meet her. I doubt he killed her because she refused or fought back. I think she has been sexually abused for a long time. I agree that he probably planned on killing her though. IMO Brooke didn't write those things. MJ and RG had access to her account and they wrote them! It was premeditated and a ploy to throw LE off. LE already determined it came from a computer in TX (RG's).

adnoid
07-03-2008, 03:16 AM
I have a question for you WSers.... Do you think he planned to kill her or she fought back and he killed her?

I believe that the work on her MS page the day before she "disappeared" shows they planned to kill her if she resisted. And I believe she did fight back and that's why they killed her. I believe if she went along like the other girl(s) they would not have killed her, but they planned for either outcome.

That poor kid. My 14yo daughter is camping with friends, if she was home I don't think I could give her a good explanation about why I couldn't stop hugging her and telling her how much I love her and that she can always talk to me. I'll do that later this week when we go join up with them, and try to get her to understand why I tell her these things.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:20 AM
They groomed the other girl and started her out at 9 years old then stopped when she was 14 yo. Why do you think they would wait until Brooke was 12 and turning 13? I think she was in the program already for years.

christine2448
07-03-2008, 03:21 AM
I believe that the work on her MS page the day before she "disappeared" shows they planned to kill her if she resisted. And I believe she did fight back and that's why they killed her. I believe if she went along like the other girl(s) they would not have killed her, but they planned for either outcome..


You really think they planned to kill her? I hadn't even thought that at all. My thought, she fought it, didn't want to go along. Do we have evidence Brooke was previously molested and by whom and second had she previously participated in such stuff, as the cousin did, bless her little soul.


That poor kid. My 14yo daughter is camping with friends, if she was home I don't think I could give her a good explanation about why I couldn't stop hugging her and telling her how much I love her and that she can always talk to me. I'll do that later this week when we go join up with them, and try to get her to understand why I tell her these things.

Yeah, you see what's under my 'hat' here?? "WS has changed the way I walk in this world".......here is another perfect example why.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:22 AM
TL,
Read the affidavits. Her myspace was altered by her uncle including the changing of passwords and timestamps. His ISP screwed that evil plan of his!

http://www.wcax.com/global/story.asp?s=8612211 affidavits are linked at this site

christine2448
07-03-2008, 03:31 AM
Need to say this, adnoid called me, to update me, knowing I had been following all day and got home, shocked to find out Brooke had been found. I didn't know. I got here, saw 21 pages. I pm'd adnoid, said "we need a forum"....adnoid had one set up in minutes...to my dismay, the title included "killed by uncle".....I broke down.

Thanks adnoid, #1 for calling me to discuss this case..after all you have done today in real life and here. Thanks posters for keeping Brooke's story alive and continueing to work on this.


In adnoid's and I conversation I told him right now, I wish I wasn't a mod....why?? I would do a shout out for all posters who could be w/in 50 mile radious of where safe might be dropped....let's go find it. Being a mod, can I say this. Adnoid says yes!

So...do we have posters in this area??????? The freakin' safe did NOT just disappear. OK crazy???? Hell yes...but, if we have peeps there, it can be found, IMO.

2nd......there are more girls out there....who are they????

Have they killed before????

OK, my rant is over.

Kudo's Wsers.:blowkiss:

K, now?:crazy::furious::woohoo:

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:34 AM
You really think they planned to kill her? I hadn't even thought that at all. My thought, she fought it, didn't want to go along. Do we have evidence Brooke was previously molested and by whom and second had she previously participated in such stuff, as the cousin did, bless her little soul.



Bold is mine.

Chris, you know...up until a few hours ago I would have surmised that it was a breckenridge initiation gone bad...

Considering the high level of dysfunction in this family (extended, step and otherwise) and number of people involved I would even garner a bet that they either decided to step this ring up a notch with murder to either
a. silence the cousin victim or keep her in her place
b. silence b because she knew something she wasn't supposed to know
c. to make new types of video

I am not totally convinced that it was planned but it sure seems to be pointing that way due to the orchestration of the whole thing and, as adnoid mentioned....the fact that they had begun manipulating her myspace before the murder.

moo

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:36 AM
indfey the afesay...

there...did I say find the safe? No, I did not. LOL... WSers.... keep eyes peeled for afesays.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:38 AM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:a8umGJ0NxxUJ::www.vaultandsafe.com/safes/FF2085-x.jpg (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.vaultandsafe.com/safes/FF2085-x.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.vaultandsafe.com/fire_proof_safes.shtml&h=308&w=687&sz=19&tbnid=a8umGJ0NxxUJ::&tbnh=62&tbnw=139&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhome%2Bsafe%2Bpictures&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&cd=1)http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:UwxLFH_uX9EJ::www.safefile.com/safe_images/small-home-safe.jpg (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.safefile.com/safe_images/small-home-safe.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.safefile.com/small-home-safe.htm&h=400&w=400&sz=9&tbnid=UwxLFH_uX9EJ::&tbnh=124&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhome%2Bsafe%2Bpictures&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=2&ct=image&cd=1)http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:XkB0pFl9D3kJ::http://www.fortknoxtexas.com/images/open-gun-safe.jpg (http://www.fortknoxtexas.com/images/open-gun-safe.jpg)does anyone know if gagnon hunted?

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:39 AM
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fortknoxtexas.com/images/open-gun-safe.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fortknoxtexas.com/&h=398&w=397&sz=50&tbnid=XkB0pFl9D3kJ::&tbnh=124&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhome%2Bsafe%2Bpictures&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=3&ct=image&cd=1 (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.fortknoxtexas.com/images/open-gun-safe.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.fortknoxtexas.com/&h=398&w=397&sz=50&tbnid=XkB0pFl9D3kJ::&tbnh=124&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhome%2Bsafe%2Bpictures&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=3&ct=image&cd=1)

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.vaultandsafe.com/safes/FF2085-x.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.vaultandsafe.com/fire_proof_safes.shtml&h=308&w=687&sz=19&tbnid=a8umGJ0NxxUJ::&tbnh=62&tbnw=139&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhome%2Bsafe%2Bpictures&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image&cd=1

christine2448
07-03-2008, 03:40 AM
indfey the afesay...

there...did I say find the safe? No, I did not. LOL... WSers.... keep eyes peeled for afesays.


oda ouya okna igpa atinla, LMAO! in the midst, you made me giggle, ty.

Amster
07-03-2008, 03:42 AM
christine

I'm in Texas...about 4 hours from San Antonio....I'm confused about the safe. It says the landlord threw it in a dumpster but the laptop wasn't found. Does that mean they found the safe?

I don't think the landlord should be believed, anyway. I think I read that LE was all over his house, today.

Teresa Larson
07-03-2008, 03:43 AM
Brooke didn't write those things. MJ and RG had access to her account and they wrote them! It was premeditated and a ploy to throw LE off. LE already determined it came from a computer in TX (RG's).

Wow I didn't know that I better turn Nancy Grace on and find out more of the facts. LOL :)

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:44 AM
TL...read the affs...they are court docs...without verbal nancy typos LOL

Tom'sGirl
07-03-2008, 03:44 AM
They groomed the other girl and started her out at 9 years old then stopped when she was 14 yo. Why do you think they would wait until Brooke was 12 and turning 13? I think she was in the program already for years.

So do I SS, so do I!

Amster
07-03-2008, 03:45 AM
Wow I didn't know that I better turn Nancy Grace on and find out more of the facts. LOL :)

No! Don't watch NG! Read the affidavits.....it's all spelled out in all the gory details.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:46 AM
We all know that the landlord could have lied to LE and not put the safe in the dumpster...he could have stashed it, sold it, tossed it in a river or lake, or so many other things. I personally feel he knew all along and was privy to everything. Pervs have a tendency to stick together and RG was living at his house. Just saying...

christine2448
07-03-2008, 03:47 AM
The safe, it just didn't disappear. It holds a lot of info. Where is it? Sorry, I'm stuck on this, for some reason.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:47 AM
Wow I didn't know that I better turn Nancy Grace on and find out more of the facts. LOL :)WS is much more accurate and up to date than NG or Greta! LOL

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:48 AM
We all know that the landlord could have lied to LE and not put the safe in the dumpster...he could have stashed it, sold it, tossed it in a river or lake, or so many other things. I personally feel he knew all along and was privy to everything. Pervs have a tendency to stick together and RG was living at his house. Just saying...
yes ss! And MJ had plenty of time to tip the gagster off to hide the safe away....we should look to see if any storage units are registered in any of the names in this case

Amster
07-03-2008, 03:48 AM
I think....maybe....Brooke was a victim of the creep. Maybe, she rebelled that night. Threatened to tell. Was sick of it. So, creep decided she had to die. :mad:

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:49 AM
Chris, could we start a thread for the safe...where it might be....what it might look like, etc? If Gag~me is a hunter he would have a license, etc...

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:51 AM
I think....maybe....Brooke was a victim of the creep. Maybe, she rebelled that night. Threatened to tell. Was sick of it. So, creep decided she had to die. :mad:Then why did Uncle Creepy and her fake daddy decide to set it up to look like she went "missing" before he dropped her at the store? They KNEW she was not coming back.

christine2448
07-03-2008, 03:51 AM
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:WS is much more accurate and up to date than NG or Greta! LOL



:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

christine2448
07-03-2008, 03:51 AM
Chris, could we start a thread for the safe...where it might be....what it might look like, etc? If Gag~me is a hunter he would have a license, etc...

Please do! You can start a thread anytime!

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:52 AM
yes ss! And MJ had plenty of time to tip the gagster off to hide the safe away....we should look to see if any storage units are registered in any of the names in this caseI am sure the FBI is way ahead of us on that one. :)

Ladybass0711
07-03-2008, 03:52 AM
Affidavit is posted for Gagnon here (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66875)

If I can I will upload the others tomorow, just have a smashing headache right now, and can't think lol!

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 03:52 AM
Then why did Uncle Creepy and her fake daddy decide to set it up to look like she went "missing" before he dropped her at the store? They KNEW she was not coming back.
Dude! would you quit making so much sense! LOL... You just gave me the last piece to believe, in my mind, that this was planned.

Are you drinking coffee? Because you are on it, sista! Good thinking

Amster
07-03-2008, 03:55 AM
Then why did Uncle Creepy and her fake daddy decide to set it up to look like she went "missing" before he dropped her at the store? They KNEW she was not coming back.

Exactly....the night before the store. She might have said no...threatened to tell

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:56 AM
Oooo...I see. Well...it is possible. I think her spending the night was part of the overall plan, too. Frankly, I think the threat of "one girl goes first and the other gets her throat cut" came into play with this murder.

SeriouslySearching
07-03-2008, 03:58 AM
Dude! would you quit making so much sense! LOL... You just gave me the last piece to believe, in my mind, that this was planned.

Are you drinking coffee? Because you are on it, sista! Good thinkingNo coffee here and I am heading off to bed. Work is going to come way too early tomorrow!! G'nite All!

Wow! I have nevah been accused of making sense before! :eek: (Someone make a note of that, eh?)

adnoid
07-03-2008, 04:00 AM
...right now, I wish I wasn't a mod....why?? I would do a shout out for all posters who could be w/in 50 mile radious of where safe might be dropped....let's go find it. Being a mod, can I say this...

Good thing you didn't say it, then.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 04:00 AM
things creepy

1- the cousin lured her with full knowledge of what was about to happen (at least in terms of the sex part)

2- on the store tape brooke's body language was disturbing...crossed arms, pensive look on face...kind of following behind MJ like a puppy.

3-the runaway ruse is set up the day before the crime

4-cousin swears in affidavit that the third girl in the program gets her throat cut and didn't know why she was still alive

My question now is...was there a second girl?

Busylady
07-03-2008, 04:01 AM
In my opinion there are more victims out there. I would say some of the child porn images on Gagnons computer are of Brooke and Savanna. I have been trying to track down who is related to who etc because I also believe there are other abusers involved in this and they will be family connected some how. Not having a bunch of luck there they all seem to have been married several times and lots of half brothers, sisters etc out there.

I am also not convinced Gagnons landlord is somehow not involved, no one in their right mind would throw away evidence of child porn (and he admitted thats what he figured was in the safe). So why would the landlord cover for him and dispose of evidence. Won't he be charged with destroying evidence as well? He says he threw it in a dumpster, I can't help but wonder if he just hid it elsewhere hopefully they are searching that house with a fine tooth comb.

I also think this had been going on with Brooke for years and they were afraid the two girls might get together and tell, but if they killed Brooke, A.R. would be too frightened to tell anyone anything.

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 04:01 AM
SS..you and I typed that at the same time...about the throat cut

christine2448
07-03-2008, 04:02 AM
Good thing you didn't say it, then.


but I did....and we are going to find it ;) Can't blame a girl fer tryin'. :blowkiss::blowkiss:

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 04:06 AM
the other icky thing....is the uncle pretends to find her clothing in the other direction of where he has actually left her.... Boy...he really thought of everything, didn't he...the little rat bastard!

nursebeeme
07-03-2008, 04:08 AM
:bedtime:night night! My butt is asleep and my mind full of macabre images. keep on keepin on everybody... bis morgan~!

Celt
07-03-2008, 07:02 AM
http://www.timesargus.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080703/NEWS/310275644/1002/NEWS01
A comment at the end I thought was fitting..
Now I lay me
down to sleep
I pray that Brooke
Will now have peace.

I hope when jailed
he's not alone
I hope he shares a cell
With a father...with a daughter...of his own.

-- Posted by Lori Renaud

Celt
07-03-2008, 07:17 AM
AND here's My poem....
Now I lay me down to sleep..
I'm Thanking God that they caught that CREEP!

I think when Jailed,
he will think life's swell
But we all know..
He will be burning in Hell!

R.I.P Brooke

TheBugHouse
07-03-2008, 07:26 AM
Abiding by HIPPA laws isn't always easy, but I'll give it a try..
I work in a hospital that provides care for SSCF inmates. I know many of the CO's. I've been assured that Jaques is being "treated properly" and may even get a field trip to my E.D. any time now.
>
I also heard from a coworker that Fox44 reported that Brookes' injuries are consistent with a violent death. I'm at work now so most news sites are blocked...so I can't post a link yet.
>
I don't know about you guy's, but vengance is an emotion that consumes many. Not sugar in the gas tank type stuff but Braveheart type stuff, many of my friends in LE suspect this guy won't make it to court in one piece...........I have a young daughter..........this is boiling a lot of blood...........I need to sqeeze off a few hundred rounds........I know just the picture to use for target...............I'm sure Adnoid can relate.

Celt
07-03-2008, 07:35 AM
"I also heard from a coworker that Fox44 reported that Brookes' injuries are consistent with a violent death. I'm at work now so most news sites are blocked...so I can't post a link yet.
Thank You Bughouse!
g*d he makes me sick..I was/am hoping it was quick...
I hope he gets raped untill he is well into his 90's (sorry...but I do):furious:

Taximom
07-03-2008, 08:27 AM
The good thing is those safes are basically indestructible and if LE wants to find it, I'm sure they will. Metal detectors will help a lot. I hope he was stupid enough to NOT remove the stuff inside because the safe should keep all that's inside in good condition. Although I'd say there are probably enough charges right now where this isn't even needed.

This case has really affected my soul.

Taximom
07-03-2008, 08:52 AM
Thank you, TheBugHouse. I couldn't agree with you more, Celt.

Liz
07-03-2008, 09:16 AM
The good thing is those safes are basically indestructible and if LE wants to find it, I'm sure they will. Metal detectors will help a lot. I hope he was stupid enough to NOT remove the stuff inside because the safe should keep all that's inside in good condition. Although I'd say there are probably enough charges right now where this isn't even needed.

This case has really affected my soul.

I hear you.
It's affected a lot of our souls, taximom! How can it not?

I can't imagine that he would have really thrown that safe in a dumpster, unless he'd arranged its transfer from there. A treasure-trove full of child porn like that has to be worth a king's ransom these days. Betcha dollars to doughnuts he turned it over to another pedo - maybe in that Breckenridge ring, if it exists.

Jen_in_Indy
07-03-2008, 09:17 AM
Son of a !! I left last night thinking that the presser was over and that they were just charging the uncle with kidnapping. WS was being sort of slow and so I went ahead and left. I didn't know that they found her body.:mad:

And no death penalty in VT. Gah. I hope those POS's rot.

Liz
07-03-2008, 09:24 AM
Son of a !! I left last night thinking that the presser was over and that they were just charging the uncle with kidnapping. WS was being sort of slow and so I went ahead and left. I didn't know that they found her body.:mad:

And no death penalty in VT. Gah. I hope those POS's rot.


I know just how you feel, Jen! I read the same message and breathed a huge sigh of relieft, thinking thank goodness her body wasn't found! A second later, phone call interruption and when I got back on a little while later, my heart felt like it dropped down to my toes. :(


Heartfelt sympathies going out for all who loved & cared about dear Brooke!

Mygirlsadie
07-03-2008, 09:50 AM
You know everybody always talks about how baby killers/child abusers won't last long in prison etc etc..I have yet to hear about anything bad ever happening to them. Look at SP? Nothing happened to him yet. My brother works for a prison in Alabama and he told me that the prisoners are protected. Sooo yeah anyway i'm sick of hearing that oh he will get his in prison..because no, he won't. :furious:

LanieCoz
07-03-2008, 09:53 AM
I've been watching this case from the beginning. I havn't posted anything about it. To me, it's too disgusting and vile for me to actually fathom. I knew the probable outcome, however, with everything inside of me I was holding onto some hope. I really felt just maybe some other POS had her. It truly brings me to tears. My thoughts and prayers are with the family. I really wish that in some way Cassandra could legally be held accountable for this, but if she has ANY heart which i'm sure she does. Then her conscious will probably do more justice than the law could because she has to live everyday of her life knowing, she could have ATLEAST TRIED to prevent this.

bdmama
07-03-2008, 09:57 AM
I can't even begin to describe the feelings I am having. The vigil last night was the most heartbreaking thing I have ever witnessed. My heart is just SICK for Brooke. May she finally rest in peace....Cassie & Denise? You are the biggest POS's I have ever come across. It was YOUR job to protect your babies from these kinds of people and you FAILED. IMO, it is YOUR fault Brooke is no longer w/ us and you deserve a cell right next to the monsters who did this. I certainly hope those idiots in Montpelier take a long hard look at the laws they created that let monsters like this walk the streets.

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 10:00 AM
I am watching a news brief from my local news and they said that Jacques has Federal kidnapping charges and that they will have more on that in a few.


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Taximom
07-03-2008, 10:02 AM
One can only hope Jacques and Gagnon at least get a tattoo similar to this one:
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00091/ed_imgSNN3027A_91774a.jpg
Tony Stockelman

cheko1
07-03-2008, 10:12 AM
Cheko..................I agree! The family waited 12 hours to report Brooke missing, and even then, it was a family friend who made the report. I keep wondering if those 12 hours would have made a difference in the outcome?

If the family had reported Brooke missing right away, she may have been found at the uncle's house before he harmed her.

I also wonder about it Leila!
Thank God the family friend called LE / the family may never of did it.

We know she was alive for a few hours because MJ picked her up / took her to his place/ Brooke & A watched TV / MJ went downstairs to get her raped her & the rest is history. So there was some time to get her out alive.

less0305
07-03-2008, 10:14 AM
I hope and pray the 14 year old cousin receives LOTS of counseling... she's going to need it.:(

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 10:16 AM
This is from today;

http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080703/NEWS01/80702039


FBI: Brooke's uncle hatched abduction plot beginning in May



UPDATED 8:35 A.M.

Brooke Bennett's uncle began plotting her abduction a month before the 12-year-old disappeared, court records released this morning say.

Michael Jacques, 42, of Randolph, created and used two phony e-mail addresses to communicate with a 14-year-old girl about a sex program he invented named "Breckenridge" and to solicit the teenager's help in luring Brooke into the program.

Brooke's body was found by police Wednesday near Jacques' home in Randolph, a grim conclusion to a weeklong search for the missing girl. Jacques has been arrested and charged in state court with sexual assault on the 14-year-old, and faces federal kidnapping charges in Brooke's disappearance.

The affidavit prepared by FBI Special Agent Daniel Rachek suggests that the sex program known as "Breckenridge," was the creation solely of Jacques', a convicted sex offender.

A series of e-mail exchanges quoted in the affidavit and dating back to at least May 28 indicate Jacques intended to abduct Brooke and assault her. In the e-mail exchanges, Jacques uses multiple online identities to manipulate the 14-year-old girl into believing at least three men are involved in the Breckenridge sex ring, the affidavit shows, with two online personas ordering her what to do.

In one exchange dated June 20 between the girl and Jacques, posing under the online pseudonym "Rauel Domingo," Jacques asks the girl if she would willing to help with "the take down and the tie up on Wednesday morning when you get back from Cumberland Farms."

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

calidreamin
07-03-2008, 10:17 AM
I am watching a news brief from my local news and they said that Jacques has Federal kidnapping charges and that they will have more on that in a few.


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Thanks for the update DS:blowkiss:. I am so upset about this I can barely type!

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 10:21 AM
Thanks for the update DS:blowkiss:. I am so upset ubout this I can barely type!
My very dearest Calidreamin,:blowkiss:
Hello my dear Calidreamin.

I just posted the link for the article about the plot begining in May. There is alot of info there.
Love and Respect,
dark_shadows

missVT77
07-03-2008, 10:22 AM
How could a person be raised and behave normally and interact with people and yet be so evil and cruel as to do this to a child he had known since she was a baby?

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 10:23 AM
The affidavit prepared by FBI Special Agent Daniel Rachek suggests that the sex program known as "Breckenridge," was the creation solely of Jacques', a convicted sex offender.


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

goldtooth
07-03-2008, 10:27 AM
This poor child never had a chance. God bless her sole.

cheko1
07-03-2008, 10:28 AM
To me that raises red flags all over the place that they at least were scared he did something to her.
Why would you not call immediately after finding out she's supposedly not with the uncle anymore, she supposedly with some friend off to a hospital, with no cell phone, and Brooke doesn't have a history of running away or taking off for hours, according to Jim Bennett. The mom wasn't a little upset!!
Why didn't they call and report her missing??

The mom seemed to be worried about the family dynamics....I'm sure the family tried to prtotect MJ from LE with his sordid past. Worrying what Denise & his daughters would do.Since MJ's lawyer stated him being in jail would put financial pressure on the family & requested bail for that reason.

The family was probably trying to protect Denise. They had a very nice home & the payments had to be made. MJ had to be a smooth talker to be able to lure people to him & suck them into his way to thinking.

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 10:29 AM
Can anyone here find a MySpace account for the name "Rauel Domingo" the screen name that Jacques used.
Maybe it is still there, maybe not, but the wayback machine can be checked once it is found.


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

dark_shadows
07-03-2008, 10:32 AM
Dearest MissVT77,:blowkiss:
Nice to see you.
I was wondering if you could help me out with something.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows

TheBugHouse
07-03-2008, 10:34 AM
You know everybody always talks about how baby killers/child abusers won't last long in prison etc etc..I have yet to hear about anything bad ever happening to them. Look at SP? Nothing happened to him yet. My brother works for a prison in Alabama and he told me that the prisoners are protected. Sooo yeah anyway i'm sick of hearing that oh he will get his in prison..because no, he won't. :furious:
>
Jeffrey Dahmer

Cornflower
07-03-2008, 10:34 AM
The affidavit prepared by FBI Special Agent Daniel Rachek suggests that the sex program known as "Breckenridge," was the creation solely of Jacques', a convicted sex offender.


Respectfully,
dark_shadows

Hello! I haven´t posted before and I can´t remember how I ended up here, probably while looking for information about something. Anyway, about the latest news of that uncle worked alone the whole plan is hard to believe. He must have had some kind of source and I´m sure he has other sick friends than ex-stepfather to Brooke. Could he alone come up with a plan so evil and disgusting? I don´t think so - but maybe it´s just me?

missVT77
07-03-2008, 10:37 AM
I would be glad to help with anything I can, dark_shadows. I guess send me a PM?

TheBugHouse
07-03-2008, 10:38 AM
You know everybody always talks about how baby killers/child abusers won't last long in prison etc etc..I have yet to hear about anything bad ever happening to them. Look at SP? Nothing happened to him yet. My brother works for a prison in Alabama and he told me that the prisoners are protected. Sooo yeah anyway i'm sick of hearing that oh he will get his in prison..because no, he won't. :furious:
>
Ask your brother if any of the inmates get "educated".

Amster
07-03-2008, 10:40 AM
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