Brooke Bennett, 12 years old Randolph VT #13

[Adalena935]

Everyone has been really busy today! Wow! Great job as always, WSers!

Welcome to the new members here! :wave: I have a lot of catching up to do this evening or I would properly welcome you.

My head is spinning with all the new information. The idea that Rauel could be RG had crossed my mind before, but the Kevin and Raker are quite interesting theories. It is possible, but you would think by now that they would be in custody because LE would have been able to trace some correspondence to MJ and to AR from their accounts.

The house in S. Royalton is curious, too. I had not stopped to think about where the act had taken place between AR, MJ, and RG. I looked it up before and it seemed so close to MJ's house tho. I guess I dismissed it then. I think we do need to figure this out.

Maybe one of our computer savy techies could answer this for me: If they were sending out live shots from a webcam...how would the FBI be able to verify it? Can they verify it? Can they tell where the live shots were received? Can you "record" or otherwise keep a live session via webcam? I would like to know more about this aspect of it. I wouldn't put it past them to have done many things with a live cam with AR or others (including as someone mentioned about the hidden cameras in the bathrooms or showers etc.).

While the FBI and LE have mentioned they don't believe the child sex ring is larger, it is obvious the child porn ring could very well be. We have one man alone running to 3 states in 2 days to cover their @sses. I don't believe he did this for the child porn he downloaded on his computers. It had to be something much more, imo.

I think any data can be traced on the Internet. In the affidavits it talks about FBI's Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force. Here's a couple of links that give you some idea the available technology.


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/07/technology/tools.php (http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/07/technology/tools.php)
Hollywood and FBI share Web tools

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/innocent.htm (http://www.fbi.gov/publications/innocent.htm)

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks, Adelena!

[LaLaw2000]

IMO, the reason Brooke was killed is because there was no way to let her live and talk after what MJ planned to do to her.

And, as someone else had pointed out - she would have had bruising and injuries. IMO, they knew exactly what they were going to do - murder Brooke.

I hope the murder part was a one-time thing, tho.

:(

[SeriouslySearching]

I have had no doubts that murder was the objective here. This was an abduction/torture/murder plan from the onset.

[w1df10wr]

I am sure we have not seen nearly the whole lot of emails LE has recovered...
From the ones we have seen AR mentions wanting to see Brooke suffer...I am feeling MJ laid a big one her about how Brooke was a huge threat..I dont think AR was in it for the "fun" of it...But had to believe Brooke somehow could destroy her life or the life of her mom or siblings...Who knows the stories he told her...Thus far we can see he told her some wild tales that she seemed to buy them hook, line, and sinker..he mentions something about "you know why we have to do this"
Maybe Brooke was strong against advances from MJ. Maybe he felt he couldnt manipulate her in the way he could AR and this set him off...idk...

moi

It does appear AR cannot stand Savanna (calls her the "C" word), and wanted Brooke to suffer and have someone urinate in her mouth.
All I can think of is the fact AR was made this way (hateful and pathelogical) by MJ, and add to that the normal cattiness that exists between teenage girls.
IMO..Brooke and Savanna were miles cuter than <REDACTED>..this could explain some of it.

Thank you, ShinaLite & Evelyn

[SeriouslySearching]

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[LaLaw2000]

Maybe, but I don' t think money is the motivating factor here, and MJ could've passed on a lot of this stuff (including anything from Brooke) for free to ______ *fill in the blank*. I just think they are all perverts who stick together and have their own network for swapping child porn like baseball trading cards.
MJ was showing off his "work?"
It's possible, he didn't even get paid.

I do know you are right, evelyn24, but they also seem to have plenty of money.
I think both of these mothers should have Child Endangerment charges! They may all be in this sick thing, and the other children need protecting. No telling what they have gone through.

[adnoid]

I think so also, except for one thing.
I do not want to violate TOS, so is it permissible to say something such as 'in my opinion' meaning I am not saying I could even be right?

You can, but really it's pointless. Anything you say that's unsourced and not possessing falsifiability is opinion whether or not you so state.

"3 is greater than 4 in my opinion" is not an opinion even though it is so qualified.

"3 is a better number than 4" is an opinion despite the absence of a qualifier.

[eris]

I think any data can be traced on the Internet. In the affidavits it talks about FBI's Internet Crimes Against Children Task Force. Here's a couple of links that give you some idea the available technology.


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/07/technology/tools.php (http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/02/07/technology/tools.php)
Hollywood and FBI share Web tools

http://www.fbi.gov/publications/innocent.htm (http://www.fbi.gov/publications/innocent.htm)

This is only going to work if the live feed is on-going and someone called LE to tip it and they will trace the DNS and ip address where it is hosted so they can tapped on it - more on hack the server where the feed is on-going. But other than that, it is Goodluck because Internet provider dont log any data on any data transfers.

[Adalena935]

Yes, and I do not mean this in a mean way, but at this point AR and her boyfriend are both juvenile delinquents for that very reason.
Forgot to add that it is because of 'consensual sex'.

I don't know what you mean. This is a criminal case.

[believe09]

This is only going to work if the live feed is on-going and someone called LE to tip it and they will trace the DNS and ip address where it is hosted so they can tapped on it - more on hack the server where the feed is on-going. But other than that, it is Goodluck because Internet provider dont log any data on any data transfers.

Don't you have to have a provider for the feed? For example there is SKPE, or Yahoo IM...they have the ability to live chat. You can record not only what is being shown on the feed, via skype, but instantly a log is created of the event....LE could at least find that...

I just pulled up a number of MJ's who have accounts on SKYPE as well as RG's...

[eris]

Don't you have to have a provider for the feed? For example there is SKPE, or Yahoo IM...they have the ability to live chat. You can record not only what is being shown on the feed, via skype, but instantly a log is created of the event....LE could at least find that...


Not really you can establish your own server. SKYPE or Yahoo are the hosting servers. You can create your own dedicated server.

[believe09]

Not really you can establish your own server. SKYPE or Yahoo are the hosting servers. You can create your own dedicated server.

Ahh well, there goes that theory, lol!!~!

[Carrington]

They don't even have to use a computer. They can hook up to a 360 type console.
Watch right on their Plasma TVs.

IMO

[Carrington]

I think they were in it first for the thrill and second for the money.
Sure would like to know how fancy the inside of MJ's house is.
Bet he has all the latest gadgets.
Do we know the style Cassandra has become accustomed too?

IMO

[SeriouslySearching]

This thread is getting long. Please continue the discussion here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=163Come join us here, Carrington! That is a good point!

[Adalena935]

This is only going to work if the live feed is on-going and someone called LE to tip it and they will trace the DNS and ip address where it is hosted so they can tapped on it - more on hack the server where the feed is on-going. But other than that, it is Goodluck because Internet provider dont log any data on any data transfers.

It's not as if global child pornography law enforcement hits a time clock and they all start work at the same time & have global quitting time.

[VTGirl81]

Has a new affidavit been released?

According to a story just posted in the online edition of the Cullman Times,

The document also reveals that a former co-worker of Gagnon, Bill Barksdale, contacted authorities after seeing a TV report on Gagnon’s charges to inform them Gagnon owned a home in Cullman.

An unnamed relative of Barksdale, who lives near the residence, said they recently observed Gagnon entering the residence with computers, the document states.

How many computers does this guy have?

http://www.cullmantimes.com/local/local_story_189231932.html


:clap: YAY for people who feel like it's right to get involved! :clap:
I know a lot of people would not have done anything about it.

[VTGirl81]

GAGNON, RAYMOND A (Age 40)
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GAGNON, RAY
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CARIBOU, ME
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GAGNON, DELORIS N (Age 40)
GAGNON, CASSANDRA M (Age 51)
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He certainly has lived in many states, hasn't he? Wonder why all of the state hopping? :waitasec: Makes you think!

I am also intrigued because he owned a house in AL, seemed to have a good job there, then moves to Texas, but doesn't sell the house and rents a room? Seems like maybe he didn't plan on staying in Texas long? Also, he's lived in Texas for more than just six months, hasn't he? Where was he living before he lived with KG?