BK Physical Attributes

[christine2448]

I am going to post here everything we have discovered about BK's physcial attributes. Please add if I am missing anything!

[christine2448]

Unidentified Amnesia Victim

AKA: Benjaman Kyle (pseudonym)

Found: 8/31/2004
Sex Male
Race White
Age 50-60


Hgt 5Ft11In Wgt 240 lbs
Hair Grey Eye Blue

[christine2448]

a scar line going across the front of the neck above the collarbones. It measures about 1-1/2” long across the neck and is not exactly in the middle – it is more toward the left side of his neck.

(He recalls having surgery pertaining to his cervical disc and believes it took place in Colorado but has no idea when.)

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a round scar on the left side of his face in the lower region of the jaw. Going from the center of the bottom of the jaw-line. It is about 2-1/2” away from the center of the chin going toward the left ear if you use the bottom jaw-line as a reference. The actual scar is about 1/8” in size and appears to be roundish in shape.

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an oval-shaped scar on the top of his left forearm that measures 7/8” x ½”. From the wrist to the end of the forearm, it would be about 2/3rd of the way above the wrist and 1/3rd of the way below the elbow. He is sure that this scar is from a skin graft that replaced skin lost on the top portion of the left index finger beside the fingernail (the side away from the middle finger and closer to the thumb).

(He believes this surgery was done around the same time as the elbow surgery mentioned above and that it might be related to falling off of a loading dock. )

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two surgical scar lines on his left elbow that resemble two arc-shaped lines running almost parallel to each other, one is about 5-1/4” long and the other is about 3-1/4” long.

(He believes he had surgery for a broken elbow and that pins and/or screws had to be implanted. To the best of his recollection, the broken elbow occurred in Indianapolis when he was in his 20’s. )

[christine2448]

Mr. Kyle has no tattoos or body piercings.

[christine2448]

Mr. Kyle is big boned, has very developed forearms and calves, and a left shoulder that sags slightly and is disproportionate to his right shoulder almost as if it has a kind of atrophy. His eyes are very blue green-there is no hint of brown in them. He has lost weight since he was found.

[raeann]

I am so new here that I don't feel that I have either the experience or authority to contact anyone about Mr. Kyle, even though I have identified some places in the Colfax area of Denver that could be quite helpful. Two of these I posted earlier today on the memories thread. In addition, here is an alumni website for East High School in Denver which is mentioned by Mr. Kyle in his memories. It seems like it might be a great place to post info., but you have to register to do so, and since I am not an alumni of the school I did not think I should register. http://www.ancientangels.com/ They have a bulletin board at the website for posting notices.

[RoodyToons]

Does anyone know for sure if he still has the surgical pins in his arm?

Those things gotta have a serial number...

[believe09]

Does anyone know for sure if he still has the surgical pins in his arm?

Those things gotta have a serial number...

Welcome!!!!!!

I agree....

[FightTheOstrich]

Does anyone know for sure if he still has the surgical pins in his arm?

Those things gotta have a serial number...

very good point. this maybe the only way to find out who he is.

[SeriouslySearching]

I have been saying this since the beginning! Ugh. I don't know why it hasn't been addressed before now.

[snowme]

I agree, if there are identifiers on the pins within Benjaman, they could be extremely helpful in making his identification.

[snowme]

Was just looking at SieSie's great banner photos in the pic comparison thread and the dyed beard photo had me wondering if it is known if Benjaman was found with beard and/or mustache or was he reasonably clean-shaven when found? Anyone know if that's been noted here before?

[believe09]

I cannot say that it has NOT been addressed-it is possible that there have been scans done and either there was too much calcification over the pins to read them, or the serial numbers were not there because of the age of the pins...I will see if I can get an answer-I suspect it has already been addressed and it provided no clue, but never say never!!!

[believe09]

Was just looking at SieSie's great banner photos in the pic comparison thread and the dyed beard photo had me wondering if it is known if Benjaman was found with beard and/or mustache or was he reasonably clean-shaven when found? Anyone know if that's been noted here before?

Good question-I will check. I can tell you that when we received the photos initially prior to the retouched ones being broadcast on the Dr. Phil show, Mr. Kyle indicated that while he felt he had always had a mustache (see the clean shaven ones?) he was not fond of the beard and could not wait to shave it off.

[Voice4theSilent]

Was just looking at SieSie's great banner photos in the pic comparison thread and the dyed beard photo had me wondering if it is known if Benjaman was found with beard and/or mustache or was he reasonably clean-shaven when found? Anyone know if that's been noted here before?

I had asked the same question on here a few days ago and never got a response. I, too, think it would be valuable to know what he weighed when he was found (is the weight we have from a few years after he was found?), if he appeared not to have showered in awhile, if his hair was long and/or overgrown, if he had an unkept beard? It was indicated that the first responders thought he was homeless, as did those in the hospital. I am curious if that is because he looked like a homeless man (not just because he was naked and beat up) or if someone just made a bad judgement call that stuck. It might help narrow down how long he had been "outside" of normal society....12 hours, 2 days, 3 weeks, 4 months, etc.

[believe09]

I had asked the same question on here a few days ago and never got a response. I, too, think it would be valuable to know what he weighed when he was found (is the weight we have from a few years after he was found?), if he appeared not to have showered in awhile, if his hair was long and/or overgrown, if he had an unkept beard? It was indicated that the first responders thought he was homeless, as did those in the hospital. I am curious if that is because he looked like a homeless man (not just because he was naked and beat up) or if someone just made a bad judgement call that stuck. It might help narrow down how long he had been "outside" of normal society....12 hours, 2 days, 3 weeks, 4 months, etc.

There are not photos of him from when he was located, like crime scene etc because the assumption was that he was indigent and that would be his story. I will ask if there was more than a day's growth or so on his face.

I was told by his friend the nurse that he was 252 when found and weighs less now; newspapers from 2007 indicate that he was around 240....that is around what he weighs now.

My understanding from the moment he was located by a cleaning woman until he started to come around and speak etc, he was labeled as a "bum." What I mean-it was related to me that the initial call to the police by the cleaning woman indicated that she had found a "naked bum" unconscious near the dumpster. The police arrived, called EMT's and made statements charecterizing him as such....in other words that they had a bum who was possibly rolled...So that is how he was transported-first to one hospital and then to another...labeled an indigent.

[believe09]

I mean just to set the scene-he was nude, covered with ant bites and sweating...

I wish I could go back to that day, offer him some compassion and dignity and then search the dumpster!!!

[Voice4theSilent]

[QUOTE=believe09;2846702]There are not photos of him from when he was located, like crime scene etc because the assumption was that he was indigent and that would be his story. I will ask if there was more than a day's growth or so on his face. QUOTE]

I am trying to figure out why they assumed him to be indigent? Location? Circumstances? Looks? Actions? I guess we might never know. Any answers would be appreciated. Thank you very much.

[believe09]

[quote=believe09;2846702]There are not photos of him from when he was located, like crime scene etc because the assumption was that he was indigent and that would be his story. I will ask if there was more than a day's growth or so on his face. QUOTE]

I am trying to figure out why they assumed him to be indigent? Location? Circumstances? Looks? Actions? I guess we might never know. Any answers would be appreciated. Thank you very much.


Did you read the rest of the post? As it was related to me it was the ripple effect-the cleaning woman made that assumption, the police (two very young rookie cops) stated it to the paramedics and so on....

[Voice4theSilent]

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Did you read the rest of the post? As it was related to me it was the ripple effect-the cleaning woman made that assumption, the police (two very young rookie cops) stated it to the paramedics and so on....

Yes I did read the rest of the post. I actually made my last post a half an hour before it showed up (?) I got an error message and decided to come back later and just found it showed up after you had responded. I apologize.

I understand what you are saying and it is extremely unfortunate. I mean no disrespect and I hope my posts aren't taken as me being callous to the facts of this case or the unfortunate, inexcusable and deplorable actions by many in regards to this man. I know the mention of him possibly being homeless prior to him being found by the dumpster upsets some people on here. I just want to effectively rule it out in my own mind with some facts possibly clarifying his physical characteristics when he was found. Your information is very informative! :thumb:

Sorry about the confusion! I can see where you would think I was an idiot asking that after the post you had just made! LOL :crazy: :slap:

[believe09]

:blowkiss: Absolutely not-I just wanted to make sure you read it, no you are not being even remotely disrespectful and Mr. Kyle can use sharp-brained clear thinking folks by the bucketful, like yourself, to help solve his mystery.

[quote=believe09;2846725]

Yes I did read the rest of the post. I actually made my last post a half an hour before it showed up (?) I got an error message and decided to come back later and just found it showed up after you had responded. I apologize.

I understand what you are saying and it is extremely unfortunate. I mean no disrespect and I hope my posts aren't taken as me being callous to the facts of this case or the unfortunate, inexcusable and deplorable actions by many in regards to this man. I know the mention of him possibly being homeless prior to him being found by the dumpster upsets some people on here. I just want to effectively rule it out in my own mind with some facts possibly clarifying his physical characteristics when he was found. Your information is very informative! :thumb:

Sorry about the confusion! I can see where you would think I was an idiot asking that after the post you had just made! LOL :crazy: :slap:

[Cymro]

I don't think anyone can exclude completely the possibility that BK was homeless prior to being found - but believing he was homeless requires you to believe that an intelligent, personable and hardworking man, with no alcohol or drug addiciton, in good health, was somehow less integrated into society before he lost his identity.

BK has done very well in terms of getting himself an identity of sorts, building a life for himself and surviving and even thriving in his environment afeter the attack - so if he was homeless, what might have prevented him from doing so beforehand?

[Voice4theSilent]

I don't think anyone can exclude completely the possibility that BK was homeless prior to being found - but believing he was homeless requires you to believe that an intelligent, personable and hardworking man, with no alcohol or drug addiciton, in good health, was somehow less integrated into society before he lost his identity.

BK has done very well in terms of getting himself an identity of sorts, building a life for himself and surviving and even thriving in his environment afeter the attack - so if he was homeless, what might have prevented him from doing so beforehand?

The ONLY small hiccup that keeps me from fully embracing the definitely-not-homeless theory is that I know there are many men (and women) who are out on the streets due to nothing more than severe psychological issues. One might classify severe dissociative amnesia as something which could result in someone becoming homeless....especially since it appears after he was found by the dumpster, Benjaman was just a few kind souls away from being placed on the streets with nowhere to go. In actuality, he might have lived a completely different life before that fateful August morning, with no psychological issues at all....I pray that is the case.

From what I understand on the subject dissociative amnesia to the extent of blocking out an entire lifetime of memories is uncommon. Usually people are unable to remember specific traumatic events. It saddens me to think of what might have occurred to make him feel his survival is contingent on him blocking out a lifetime of memories. My heart goes out to this man.

[snowme]

Thinking out loud... Benjaman is 5' 11" and when found weighed 252... has since lost a little weight and may be around 240 currently. Absolutely no offense meant (I, like so many others, am quite fond of Benjaman) but I'm trying to rule in or out in my own mind if I thought he was "homeless" prior to being found. Looking at the height/weight info I'm leaning toward thinking he was not homeless prior to the incident, at least not for a any length of time. 252 lbs. indicates eating rather well for his height as opposed to eating certainly less well had he been homeless and quite likely would have weighed less for his height.

Am I making sense?

[Voice4theSilent]

Thinking out loud... Benjaman is 5' 11" and when found weighed 252... has since lost a little weight and may be around 240 currently. Absolutely no offense meant (I, like so many others, am quite fond of Benjaman) but I'm trying to rule in or out in my own mind if I thought he was "homeless" prior to being found. Looking at the height/weight info I'm leaning toward thinking he was not homeless prior to the incident, at least not for a any length of time. 252 lbs. indicates eating rather well for his height as opposed to eating certainly less well had he been homeless and quite likely would have weighed less for his height.

Am I making sense?

Absolutely! That is exactly why I was wondering about the weight. When I found out that the 252 weight was what he weighed when he was found I thought the exact same thing. Though I have seen a number of "healthy" homeless....the majority are not and I am leaning more towards that line of thinking. Thank you for your post!

I would still like to know if his facial hair was overgrown when he was discovered, if at all possible, to determine if he was "incapacitated" for a great length of time or for just a mere 12 hours or so.

[snowme]

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...I would still like to know if his facial hair was overgrown when he was discovered, if at all possible, to determine if he was "incapacitated" for a great length of time or for just a mere 12 hours or so.

Me too, waiting on that info if we can get it. Another thought I just had when re-reading Believe's post "setting the scene": he was sweating ... that may help in factoring the length of time he was there behind the dumpster. Georgia in August is unbearably hot and humid as I recall, even in the morning hours. Had he been there for more than a matter of hours or more than most of a day I would think he'd be headed for or fully in a heat stroke, no? Medically knowledgable sleuthers?

[FightTheOstrich]

I cannot say that it has NOT been addressed-it is possible that there have been scans done and either there was too much calcification over the pins to read them, or the serial numbers were not there because of the age of the pins...I will see if I can get an answer-I suspect it has already been addressed and it provided no clue, but never say never!!!


can they tell from the scars, what type of surgery he had, robotic etc..? If the pins are a dead end, we might be able to narrow down where he had the surgery based on technique. robotic surgery is new and until recently, not many hospitals even owned the robots. and typically only a few of the surgeons use them.

[believe09]

He has no xrays confirming the pins in his elbow; he has no notes stating the amount of facial hair he had when he was discovered; it was 8 months from when he was discovered to when his eyes were corrected. The month or so after his discovery does not contain much in the way of memories-jumbled thoughts only.

As I stated on one of the other threads, he will not allow pins to be removed from his arm to hunt for serial numbers, at least at the present time. I respect his decision not to mutilate his body if there are other ways to discover his ID. I do not know if the facial hair has a lot of relevance or not-he feels he has always had a mustache but not other facial hair.

[Julessleuther]

Respectfully, some of the answers to our questions are quite puzzling. Why would him having facial hair not be relevant? It could determine how long it had been since he had shaved or groomed himself. It would be one thing if he had a moustache or beard prior, but it is altogether another thing if he had not groomed prior to this. If he was groomed, then he was probably still "in" society. If he was not, then he was either taken beforehand and kept for awhile, or outside the "fringes" of society. These are extremely important clues to his identity, because it may lay a timeline of when he went missing. If this had been handled as a criminal investigation from the beginning, that ABSOLUTELY would and should have been noted. I am also puzzled why it was not handled as a criminal investigation if the people who found him felt he had been assaulted, regardless of his physical condition when found. As far as the pins, an xray could be done NOW that could determine the serial number, why would he not do that?


He has no xrays confirming the pins in his elbow; he has no notes stating the amount of facial hair he had when he was discovered; it was 8 months from when he was discovered to when his eyes were corrected. The month or so after his discovery does not contain much in the way of memories-jumbled thoughts only.

As I stated on one of the other threads, he will not allow pins to be removed from his arm to hunt for serial numbers, at least at the present time. I respect his decision not to mutilate his body if there are other ways to discover his ID. I do not know if the facial hair has a lot of relevance or not-he feels he has always had a mustache but not other facial hair.

[believe09]

My bold. I didn't say it was not relevent-I said I wasn't sure...that is for me just my opinion.

As you all well know, medical care is not self serve-he is indigent. He is not covered by ANYTHING. Who would pay for the XRAY reading etc...that is where he is now.

If the LE decides it is a good investigative tool, I expect it will be done. Again JMO.

Respectfully, some of the answers to our questions are quite puzzling. Why would him having facial hair not be relevant? It could determine how long it had been since he had shaved or groomed himself. It would be one thing if he had a moustache or beard prior, but it is altogether another thing if he had not groomed prior to this. If he was groomed, then he was probably still "in" society. If he was not, then he was either taken beforehand and kept for awhile, or outside the "fringes" of society. These are extremely important clues to his identity, because it may lay a timeline of when he went missing. If this had been handled as a criminal investigation from the beginning, that ABSOLUTELY would and should have been noted. I am also puzzled why it was not handled as a criminal investigation if the people who found him felt he had been assaulted, regardless of his physical condition when found. As far as the pins, an xray could be done NOW that could determine the serial number, why would he not do that?

[believe09]

As to why it was not handled as a criminal investigation, I would defer to Richmond Hill. The FBI picked up the pieces after Mr. Kyle's nurse got in touch with a Congressman. That was YEARS later. There was nothing left to go on in terms of physical evidence and without Mr. Kyle's input no where to start.

[Julessleuther]

Oh, please do not think I was criticizing you or BK, I think that the Richmond Hill PD did not handle this very well, and it is a shame because BK has to suffer even more because of this. If they had handled things differently, perhaps he would not be where he is right now. I know, shoulda, coulda, woulda, it is just a shame is all.

As to why it was not handled as a criminal investigation, I would defer to Richmond Hill. The FBI picked up the pieces after Mr. Kyle's nurse got in touch with a Congressman. That was YEARS later. There was nothing left to go on in terms of physical evidence and without Mr. Kyle's input no where to start.

[Voice4theSilent]

The Dr. Phil show interviewed one of the paramedics on the scene. She appeared as thought the event was still clear in her mind. I am sure that she would not give me any information if I contacted her. Has BK contacted her to ask her about what she recalls about his physical state when she arrived? If so, I would be interested to know what she had to say.

[believe09]

Oh, please do not think I was criticizing you or BK, I think that the Richmond Hill PD did not handle this very well, and it is a shame because BK has to suffer even more because of this. If they had handled things differently, perhaps he would not be where he is right now. I know, shoulda, coulda, woulda, it is just a shame is all.

:blowkiss: I did not take any of this personally, trust me. I have tried to give Richmond Hill the benefit of the doubt, but I think it was simple judgement error-I have spoken with more than one LE agency who have reviewed what Richmond Hill put together in terms of a report at the time...which was virtually nothing. The problem then is the inability to go backwards and recover evidence-Nurse Betty did a great job of trying to talk to hotels, motels, car rental agencies etc...nothing was available to share. And I mean nothing. I ran down abandoned vehicle auctions etc...and that is when I found out the vehicles are auctioned or destroyed within 6 months of being picked up...I was hoping BK's car would be sitting in a junk yard somewhere stripped for parts, you know???

[Julessleuther]

Oh yes, it sounds you did very well trying to cover all the bases after the fact. Never give up though, right, there will always be another way to search for answers until he is found, right? :woohoo::blowkiss: I did not take any of this personally, trust me. I have tried to give Richmond Hill the benefit of the doubt, but I think it was simple judgement error-I have spoken with more than one LE agency who have reviewed what Richmond Hill put together in terms of a report at the time...which was virtually nothing. The problem then is the inability to go backwards and recover evidence-Nurse Betty did a great job of trying to talk to hotels, motels, car rental agencies etc...nothing was available to share. And I mean nothing. I ran down abandoned vehicle auctions etc...and that is when I found out the vehicles are auctioned or destroyed within 6 months of being picked up...I was hoping BK's car would be sitting in a junk yard somewhere stripped for parts, you know???

[believe09]

Oh yes, it sounds you did very well trying to cover all the bases after the fact. Never give up though, right, there will always be another way to search for answers until he is found, right? :woohoo:

Absolutely! I am not trying to dissuade anyone at all from questioning and searching-all ideas are welcome. Benjaman is setting up a domain and blog for himself-once it is completed, I will post the address and you-all can ask him directly rather than using a conduit...:rolleyes:

[FightTheOstrich]

My bold. I didn't say it was not relevent-I said I wasn't sure...that is for me just my opinion.

As you all well know, medical care is not self serve-he is indigent. He is not covered by ANYTHING. Who would pay for the XRAY reading etc...that is where he is now.

If the LE decides it is a good investigative tool, I expect it will be done. Again JMO.


could we start a BK fund, asking for donations to help him? this way he could afford x-rays etc...

[believe09]

could we start a BK fund, asking for donations to help him? this way he could afford x-rays etc...

Great idea-but he won't have it. I have tried. I tried to convince him to have a paypal account opened so people can contribute...nope. He won't do it. Likens it to standing on a street corner with a tin cup. This is why I am trying to get him a temp SSN, so he can at least collect some benefits in a way he finds tolerable.

[bluestarzz]

you got to respect him for that. that to me adds one more thing to his
work ethic = strong
bluestarzz

[believe09]

you got to respect him for that. that to me adds one more thing to his
work ethic = strong
bluestarzz

You know it-many of his supporters are amazed at how unshakable he is. All of this makes it hard not to attribute an incredible life to him-riches yada yada....but he believes he is an average Joe and suspects that he will not be returning to a life of stock options etc...once he discovers his ID. He is staunchly middle American.

[FightTheOstrich]

Great idea-but he won't have it. I have tried. I tried to convince him to have a paypal account opened so people can contribute...nope. He won't do it. Likens it to standing on a street corner with a tin cup. This is why I am trying to get him a temp SSN, so he can at least collect some benefits in a way he finds tolerable.


couldn't we just do it and tell him about it after we give it to him? explain to him that by the time individuals make it on websleuths, they are usually dead. he is living, he is hope and we would love the chance to help. it's not charity. any one of us could be in his shoes someday. he can later give back by volunteering. the story makes my heart ache. i understand that he is proud but everyone needs help sometime.

[believe09]

couldn't we just do it and tell him about it after we give it to him? explain to him that by the time individuals make it on websleuths, they are usually dead. he is living, he is hope and we would love the chance to help. it's not charity. any one of us could be in his shoes someday. he can later give back by volunteering. the story makes my heart ache. i understand that he is proud but everyone needs help sometime.


:blowkiss:You are awesome. He reads avidly here so he will surely see your request-he won't do it though, but it would be OK with me if he would change his mind, lol!

[snowme]

I very much like the idea that he was (and is now in his ways) an "average Joe" - those are the good guys!

You know it-many of his supporters are amazed at how unshakable he is. All of this makes it hard not to attribute an incredible life to him-riches yada yada....but he believes he is an average Joe and suspects that he will not be returning to a life of stock options etc...once he discovers his ID. He is staunchly middle American.

[snowme]

Aw, bless his heart! But Christmas gift giving season is upon us and I don't know about the rest of you guys but I can't think of thing to purchase for him... so I was thinking a card with some cash tucked in. This year we could all be Benjaman's family! :blowkiss:

(I got the message loud and clear tho... he won't have it.) sigh

Great idea-but he won't have it. I have tried. I tried to convince him to have a paypal account opened so people can contribute...nope. He won't do it. Likens it to standing on a street corner with a tin cup. This is why I am trying to get him a temp SSN, so he can at least collect some benefits in a way he finds tolerable.

[believe09]

Aw, bless his heart! But Christmas gift giving season is upon us and I don't know about the rest of you guys but I can't think of thing to purchase for him... so I was thinking a card with some cash tucked in. This year we could all be Benjaman's family! :blowkiss:

(I got the message loud and clear tho... he won't have it.) sigh

Now you are talking...I do have a PO Box for correspondence-If any of you wanted to send cards or letters of support, of course I would have no idea if anything were included...:rolleyes:

[snowme]

Believe if you pm'ed that PO box to me I could add that to my card list! Sneaky little things, aren't we?! :wink:

Now you are talking...I do have a PO Box for correspondence-If any of you wanted to send cards or letters of support, of course I would have no idea if anything were included...:rolleyes:

[dreamweaver]

I have not seen any solid leads about who Benjaman Kyle really is.
It is hard to think that someone could 'disappear' without one person being aware of it and reporting it.
There have been 4 years of hospital staff, nurses, web information, codis test ran, dna tested, military files searched and now Dr Phil and these boards all searching missing person reports in order to give Benjaman Kyle's real identity back.
Why is it so hard to discover who he is?
Why doesn't 48 Hours Mystery on CBS, Sat. night take on this story?
Or the new Unsolved Mystery show on Spike TV?
Why doesn't Dateline NBC showcase this story?
Does American's Most Wanted profile missing people? or at least amnesia victims?
I can email his story to tv channels.

What do you think?

[believe09]

Send it-with our blessing. There is something we are missing here-something that will be so obvious once this is all over and he has either remembered or someone has discovered who he is.

I cannot for the life of me figure out how to get there from here, however...lol...

I have not seen any solid leads about who Benjaman Kyle really is.
It is hard to think that someone could 'disappear' without one person being aware of it and reporting it.
There have been 4 years of hospital staff, nurses, web information, codis test ran, dna tested, military files searched and now Dr Phil and these boards all searching missing person reports in order to give Benjaman Kyle's real identity back.
Why is it so hard to discover who he is?
Why doesn't 48 Hours Mystery on CBS, Sat. night take on this story?
Or the new Unsolved Mystery show on Spike TV?
Why doesn't Dateline NBC showcase this story?
Does American's Most Wanted profile missing people? or at least amnesia victims?
I can email his story to tv channels.

What do you think?

[SieSie]

Absolutely! I am not trying to dissuade anyone at all from questioning and searching-all ideas are welcome. Benjaman is setting up a domain and blog for himself-once it is completed, I will post the address and you-all can ask him directly rather than using a conduit...:rolleyes:
My bold...
:clap: Awesome news, I'm looking forward to it!!! :clap: TY, believe! :blowkiss:


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This year we could all be Benjaman's family! :blowkiss:
I love how you think!!! :D :blowkiss:


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Why doesn't 48 Hours Mystery on CBS, Sat. night take on this story?
Or the new Unsolved Mystery show on Spike TV?
Why doesn't Dateline NBC showcase this story?
Does American's Most Wanted profile missing people? or at least amnesia victims?
I can email his story to tv channels.

What do you think?
I think that's an excellent idea, the shows you mentioned above, I mean. Please email his story and see if you get any response. :blowkiss:

[snowme]

Believe, since you have contact with Benjaman I'll address this to you. I was over at ancestry dot com reading the community guidelines regarding posting because I was thinking of posting to each state's message board. A little "do you know me" type thing and include key info and Benjaman's picture. But I found in the guidelines that you cannot post a picture of anyone living except yourself... so... if Benjaman hasn't thought of this yet maybe he'd want to make a post including his photos (or one of siesie's collages) - at least to the Indiana and Colorado boards. Could you pass that suggestion on to him if you speak with him? (or if you're reading Benjaman.... lol)

[SieSie]

Believe, since you have contact with Benjaman I'll address this to you. I was over at ancestry dot com reading the community guidelines regarding posting because I was thinking of posting to each state's message board. A little "do you know me" type thing and include key info and Benjaman's picture. But I found in the guidelines that you cannot post a picture of anyone living except yourself... so... if Benjaman hasn't thought of this yet maybe he'd want to make a post including his photos (or one of siesie's collages) - at least to the Indiana and Colorado boards. Could you pass that suggestion on to him if you speak with him? (or if you're reading Benjaman.... lol)
My bold...
Great idea, snowme - and good looking out for the guidelines first. :D I'm actually a little concerned about using the screen caps from the Dr. Phil show in my flyers/collages, I'm hoping they weren't copyrighted since it's a screen cap from a YouTube video. I don't want to get in trouble, just trying to be helpful in one of the few ways I know how - editing graphics. :D

[snowme]

Oh SieSie, you know I hadn't even thought of that (the idea of copyrights regarding the screencap pics). Maybe if Benjaman wants to do some posts over there (or elsewhere) he could get you do new flyer without the screencap pics - perhaps he's got a couple just as recent photos that can be used in their place.

Not trying to increase your workload... but you already know I think you're great at those graphics!

[mollyjohnson100]

I haven't read anything about this in any threads about Benjaman here,
but unless they were there there when he was born, I think his "well developed forearms" may give clues to what he was doing previously in his life.
It is very hard to develop muscles on your lower arm, my brother used to be body building and he was jealous of me, being small and all, getting muscles on these parts where he couldn't.
We read up on it and found out the only way to develop your lower arms is by GRIPPING. With your hands. You can bend, stretch, lift, but if you do not grip, with your hands, that part of your arm will not develop.
I used to juggle, that is why my lower arms were developed and more muscular than the rest of my arm.
I'm not saying Benjaman was a juggler, just that it should be looked into what work or hobbies involve gripping. The only one I can think of is sailor work, as in gripping the ropes, it would also explain the well developed lower legs, which are apparently also hard to develop.
I have read every thread about Benjaman here and in other places, nothing tells me he ever was a sailor, nothing tells me he wasn't.
But I think it should be looked into what other kind of work there is, that involves gripping.
The only restaurant related I could think of that would develop your underarms is whisking... but somehow I can't see this guy whisking every day for twenty years.
Still... anyone wanting to look into this please do.