Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C.

[chicoliving]

Police in North Carolina are searching for a missing woman last seen Saturday when she left her home to go running, WRAL.com has reported.

~snip~

Authorities described Cooper — an avid runner who was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes — as a caucasian woman, approximately 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing about 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and brown hair that falls just past her shoulders, according to the report.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381421,00.html

[chicoliving]

~snip~

Dozens of people turned out to join a search party from Lochmere Pavilion, at Kildaire Farm Road and Lochmere Drive, around 8 a.m. Sunday. They combed running trails and a golf course by foot and by bicycle, and volunteers plastered flyers with Cooper's picture on buildings and street signs.

Cary police officers said they have launched an all-out search for Cooper.

"Officers out here on foot, we've had a great number of those out here. We've had K9 out here," Capt. Michael Williams said. "We have had assistance from the National Guard that have flown routes for us in helicopters."

Lochemere's running route was believed to be in the Lochmere Lake area or the Regency Park area. She was training for a half marathon and is a member of Lochmere Swim and Tennis Club.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3197372/

The article also says she didn't have her ID, car or keys when she left for her run.

[panthera]

Thank you chicoliving for posting about Nancy ~ I was just going to put the Fox News article here when I saw you had started a thread. I will include her photo here though from that article!

http://www.foxnews.com/images/394599/4_61_071308_MissingWoman2.jpg (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381421,00.html#)



Nancy Cooper
Nancy Cooper


http://www.foxnews.com/images/394599/4_41_071308_MissingWoman2.jpg (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381421,00.html#)
http://www.foxnews.com/images/394599/4_42_071308_MissingWoman1.jpg (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381421,00.html#)

[martin walkerdine]

CARY, N.C. — A massive search was launched on Sunday to find a missing North Carolina woman last seen when she left her home to go running, WRAL.com reported.
Nancy Cooper, 34, reportedly went for a routine jog early Saturday morning, but never returned home to meet friends as planned.
Volunteers and police mobilized a search team with the help of the National Guard and police canines.
"We have had assistance from the National Guard that have flown routes for us in helicopters." Cary Police Capt. Michael Williams told WRAL.
Though Cooper's exact running route is unknown, volunteers reportedly scoured running trails and a golf course by foot and by bicycle — and plastered flyers with Cooper's picture on buildings and street signs.
"That was a little odd," neighbor Diana Duncan told WRAL upon learning of Cooper's disappearance. "She doesn't stand you up. She'll always call."
Authorities described Cooper — an avid runner who was training for a half-marathon — as a caucasian woman, approximately 5 feet 9 inches tall and weighing about 120 pounds. She has hazel eyes and brown hair, and was last seen wearing a T-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes, according to WRAL.com.

"She has two beautiful little girls who I love so much," Duncan said. "We her so much; we all do. We just have to keep looking on."

[chicoliving]

Thanks panthera! It's so good to see an all out search right away. Her family and friends must be frantic with worry. I hope she's found soon and safe!

[IdahoMom]

I just saw this story. I hope Nancy makes it home to her daughters safely.

I was wondering about whether Nancy is married or not, and found this:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1139901.html

snip

Duncan says she’s known Cooper since Cooper moved to Cary from Canada eight years ago. She said Cooper's husband Brad Cooper was at home with the couple's two young daughters, ages 4 and almost 2.

[Taximom]

I wonder who she was last seen by? The articles only mention 2 daughters, but no hubby, boyfriend or ex. I hope we don't have another creep in the woods killing women that are alone.

[panthera]

Thanks panthera! It's so good to see an all out search right away. Her family and friends must be frantic with worry. I hope she's found soon and safe!
You're most welcome! I hope she's found SAFE and soon and I too am very glad LE and everyone are so concerned about her. Cary NC is right in the Raleigh area, about 2-1/2 hrs. n/e from where I am. :)

[panthera]

Anyone with information is asked to contact Cary Police at (919) 469-4016.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1139901.html

[Taximom]

Do you have the link? Who are the other 2 women, Martin? This is scary if they all disappeared around the same area and under similar circumstances. Thanks for the info.

[KaylynnCouture]

Officers say Nancy Cooper, 34, left her home at 7 a.m. Saturday to go running and never came back home.

Cooper is described as 5 feet 9 inches tall, 120 pounds, hazel eyes and brown hair. She was last seen wearing a t-shirt, running shorts and light blue running shoes.

Police believe she was in the Lochmere Lake area or near Regency Park.

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6261482

[martin walkerdine]

the link is www.wral.com taximom

[Taximom]

I saw the original WRAL article (actually on another thread for Cooper here) but wondered where the "3rd women" comment came from. I was hoping to compare those 2 missing women to Nancy's case, but I don't know who the other two are. Please let me know if you have their names too! Thanks. :blowkiss:

Here's the direct link to the WRAL article:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3197372/

[philamena]

Man, that is not good news at all. As we know-- except for the runaway bride lol, women generally don't just jog off and leave their children, friends, job, home, etc.
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6261482

http://a.abclocal.go.com/images/wtvd/cms_exf_2007/news/local/6261545_600x338.jpg

[martin walkerdine]

Holley Wimunc of Lafayette, La as been declared missing and also Megan Touma who was found dead in a motel within 2 weeks of each other both cases are connected to fort bragg and both crimes are 2 miles apart from each other.

[philamena]

Nancy Cooper

http://news14.com/content/headlines/597343/cary-police-search-for-missing-jogger/Default.aspx

At 8 a.m. Sunday, friends, neighbors and authorities gathered to make a plan to find 34-year-old Nancy Cooper.



"She doesn't just not show up," neighbor Diana Duncan said. "There's no way she would go two hours without knowing where her kids are and how they are."

[philamena]

I love the grand state of North Carolina but what in heaven's name is going on there?
There's another unsolved murder case in NC...argg, sorry I can't remember the name

I remember, Jason Young was a POI in the murder of his pregnant wife Michelle.
He has never been charged and the case is not solved.

[martin walkerdine]

when the local newspaper released the letter from the alleged zodiac killer in that letter it did say that further attacks will happen the letter was release after the dead women was found in a motel.

[TGIRecovered]

Holley Wimunc of Lafayette, La as been declared missing and also Megan Touma who was found dead in a motel within 2 weeks of each other both cases are connected to fort bragg and both crimes are 2 miles apart from each other.

These are three very different crimes, as far as I can tell.

Holley is missing and her apartment burned, Megan was pregnant, murdered, and left to decompose in a motel bath. Her baby-daddy is a military psych-ops guy, and surprise!...Cops receive a"zodiac" letter. Hmmm, wonder who would have thought of that?:waitasec:

Now we have a woman with no apparent connection to either Holley or Megan, who disappeared while jogging. The only similarity is that they are all women in North Carolina.

Unless Megan's ex, the psych-ops guy, is killing more women in the hopes of strengthening his Zodiac ploy, I seriously doubt there is any connection at all. Cops should be all over him right now, so I don't expect he'd be having the freedom to raom around killing others.

Just my opinion, of course!

Susan

[Taximom]

Holley Wimunc of Lafayette, La as been declared missing and also Megan Touma who was found dead in a motel within 2 weeks of each other both cases are connected to fort bragg and both crimes are 2 miles apart from each other.

Oh, thanks, Martin. I recognize Megan's name...but not so sure about Holley. It's sad but sometimes they just all run together and I forget where they are from and the details etc. Thanks again. :blowkiss:

[Taximom]

Thanks for that quick summary, TGIR. :blowkiss:

[T-Rex]

Oh no--this doesn't sound good. :(

[philamena]

Sunday's early articles mentioned Mrs. Cooper's children but not her husband. The below article says the husband was at home with the children. (Now my hinky meter is up.):confused:


Duncan says she’s known Cooper since Cooper moved to Cary from Canada eight years ago. She said Cooper's husband Brad Cooper was at home with the couple's two young daughters, ages 4 and almost 2.




"It's overwhelming. It's hard to get your head around. Unbelievable really," Cooper's friend Theresa O'Driscoll said. "She's a great person in the community. She's very outgoing, very athletic, very friendly, a lot of people know her, a lot of people have come out just because they recognize her picture."
Police say Cooper's husband was the last person to see her Saturday morning, but do not consider him a suspect.



A ground and air search has turned up a few items, police won't specify what they are, but say none of them led them to Cooper. :confused:

[philamena]

A woman goes on a early morning jog and simply disappears.
She is a seasoned runner and is preparing/practicing to run a marathon.
Her husband is the last person to see her alive.
Some 'items' were found in the park but didn't lead LE to her.

We have some savory characters who loaf around our parks on the weekends.
Makes me wonder if she ran into a drug deal....

[Taximom]

Hmmm. I hope this isn't a case of "here we go again". Hopefully she left on a fluke and will come back alive and well. I really hate to play "blame the husband" but I can't help it sometimes. I won't, just yet. Let's see how he reacts with the media attention....

[philamena]

I know what you man Taximom.

[SuziQ]

I admit that I am a very suspicious person. So.....where did the story come from of what she was wearing and that Nancy left to go jogging at 7am? Doesn't seem like anyone saw her since another article says searchers don't know really where to search. For all we know she's been missing way before 7am, KWIM?

[Taximom]

I know, SuziQ. :(

There are a few Bradley/Brad Cooper's that show up in NC racing results, so he might have been a runner/athlete too. Just some possible extra info.

[SuziQ]

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6262280

(snip)
Police say Cooper's husband was the last person to see her Saturday morning, but do not consider him a suspect.

[Taximom]

We all know what LE says isn't necessarily what they really think! So far, anyway, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'm feeling extra generous tonight! lol

Please come home safe, Nancy Cooper.

[SuziQ]

At the very end of the below video the reporter states that Nancy's husband stated that him and Nancy had been having marital issues and declined to discuss that further.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/3200076/

[Taximom]

Sometimes I just want to scream! Well, I wonder what her friends know...and think about this?

[SuziQ]

Her friends want so badly for her to come home ok. You can tell how worried they are on the video.

[martin walkerdine]

Remains might be missing soldier

07/14/2008 06:28 AM

By: Associated Press



http://images.news14.com/media/2008/7/14/images/01wimunc_pic.jpg Army 2nd Lt. Holley Wimunc has been missing since Thursday

JACKSONVILLE, N.C. -- Onslow County District Attorney Dewey Hudson says burned remains found near Camp Lejeune may be those of a missing officer at Fort Bragg.
Division of Forest Resources personnel found the burned remains of a woman late Sunday afternoon in the Sneads Ferry area near Camp Lejeune. Sheriff Ed Brown says the fire appears to have been set to cover up a crime.

Army 2nd Lt. Holley Wimunc has been missing since Thursday after a fire was set at her apartment in Fayetteville. She is a nurse married to Marine Cpl. John Patrick Wimunc, based at Camp Lejeune. The couple is going through a divorce.

Hudson says the body was burned before the brush fire. Brown says the site was guarded overnight and forensic experts with the FBI would remove the remains Monday.

Fayetteville police questioned Cpl. Wimunc last week.

[Jovin]

just abit ago by phone. He sounds extremely worried. He said he was at home with the two kids when she went. No cell phone with her either.

Let's hope they find her unharmed. Maybe she fell and hit her head and became confused? I don't know. I'm pulling at straws hoping for the best.

[Truthful Lies]

My hinky meter is very high, too, SuziQ.

[IdahoMom]

We all know what LE says isn't necessarily what they really think! So far, anyway, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. I'm feeling extra generous tonight! lol

Please come home safe, Nancy Cooper.

I'm wondering if anyone talked with Nancy on Friday evening and how she seemed at that time.

[Pepper]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381421,00.html

CARY, N.C. — A search was launched on Sunday to find a missing North Carolina woman last seen when she left her home to go running, WRAL.com reported.

Nancy Cooper, 34, reportedly went for a routine jog early Saturday morning, but never returned home to meet friends as planned.
~~~~~~~~

Her husband was interviewed on Fo this morning. He says she left about 6 am to jog, and didn't take a cell phone, wallet or ID with her. He says he was at home with their two daughters.

I hope I am wrong, but I smell a rat. His voice sounded like he was scared and nervous. The young girls would have been still asleep at 6 am. I'm suspicious, but I usually am when a wife suddenly disappears.

[Salem]

There's another thread on this one, started a day or so ago:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67338

What's happening in NC?

Salem

[pixies]

I hope I am wrong, but I smell a rat. His voice sounded like he was scared and nervous. The young girls would have been still asleep at 6 am. I'm suspicious, but I usually am when a wife suddenly disappears.

I watched that too and I felt really bad for him. He sounded very sad and lost. One minute you are the typical american family and the next your wife is missing and you are on Fox news talking with the "Anchorbabe".

For the sake of the 2 little daughters, I pray she is found safe and the husband had nothing to do with her vanishing.

[TGIRecovered]

Sunday's early articles mentioned Mrs. Cooper's children but not her husband. The below article says the husband was at home with the children. (Now my hinky meter is up.):confused:


Philamena, do you have a link to the story which mentions the husband? I can't find it. Thanks!

Susan

[Pepper]

There's another thread on this one, started a day or so ago:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67338

What's happening in NC?

Salem

I'm sorry. I didn't see this. Mods, please merge.

ETA: On second thought the other thread was about all 3 NC women. Since there is no connection, and the other two were murdered apparently by each of their husbands or SOs, there is really no connection to this case. Therefore, it should stand on its own.

[SuziQ]

Their are actually 3-4 threads on this. Everyone needs to do a search before starting new threads and you need to contact the mods directly if make a request.

[Pepper]

Their are actually 3-4 threads on this. Everyone needs to do a search before starting new threads and you need to contact the mods directly if make a request.

I did search and didn't find anything. Sorry. Mods do what is appropriate. However Nancy deserves her own thread, not to be lumped with the other murdered women in NC.

[SuziQ]

I did search and didn't find anything. Sorry. Mods do what is appropriate. However Nancy deserves her own thread, not to be lumped with the other murdered women in NC.

If you do a search under Nancy Cooper a list of three threads for Nancy pulls up. And she does have her own appropriate thread, started by mod Chicoliving, under the correct catagory of Missing/located.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1355092

[Taximom]

You'd think she would at least take her cell phone, especially after what has happened in NC lately. I wish I had seen her husband on Fox.

[Pepper]

I heard her husband interviewed, and I'm thinking he was home with two very young girls at 6 am, when the children were probably sleeping. Searchers have already scoured the immediate area of jogging trails and she has not been found. Stranger abductions are very rare. The husband's voice sounded very nervous to me. Yes, I'm suspicious.

[philamena]

Man, that is not good news at all. As we know-- except for the runaway bride lol, women generally don't just jog off and leave their children, friends, job, home, etc.
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?se...cal&id=6261482 (http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6261482)

[philamena]

Nancy Cooper

http://news14.com/content/headlines/...r/Default.aspx (http://news14.com/content/headlines/597343/cary-police-search-for-missing-jogger/Default.aspx)


Quote:
At 8 a.m. Sunday, friends, neighbors and authorities gathered to make a plan to find 34-year-old Nancy Cooper.


Quote:
"She doesn't just not show up," neighbor Diana Duncan said. "There's no way she would go two hours without knowing where her kids are and how they are."

[philamena]

http://www.charlotte.com/news/story/711809.html


Sunday's early articles mentioned Mrs. Cooper's children but not her husband. The below article says the husband was at home with the children. (Now my hinky meter is up.):confused:


Quote:
Duncan says she’s known Cooper since Cooper moved to Cary from Canada eight years ago. She said Cooper's husband Brad Cooper was at home with the couple's two young daughters, ages 4 and almost 2.


Quote:

"It's overwhelming. It's hard to get your head around. Unbelievable really," Cooper's friend Theresa O'Driscoll said. "She's a great person in the community. She's very outgoing, very athletic, very friendly, a lot of people know her, a lot of people have come out just because they recognize her picture."
Police say Cooper's husband was the last person to see her Saturday morning, but do not consider him a suspect.

Quote:

A ground and air search has turned up a few items, police won't specify what they are, but say none of them led them to Cooper. :confused:

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[philamena]

A woman goes on a early morning jog and simply disappears.
She is a seasoned runner and is preparing/practicing to run a marathon.
Her husband is the last person to see her alive.
Some 'items' were found in the park but didn't lead LE to her.

We have some savory characters who loaf around our parks on the weekends.
Makes me wonder if she ran into a drug deal....

ETA-Fox news this morning (Monday) reported that Nancy's ID, liscense and keys were at home.
She was also suppose to meet friends later that morning after her run.
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[pixies]

I just do not believe her husband had anything to do with this. Hearing him on the news today just made me so sad. He sounded lost.

I am normally the first one to slam the hubby but this time....I don't know...

[philamena]

http://www.charlotte.com/news/story/711809.html

Here you go...sorry about that.

[TGIRecovered]

I wonder if she ran with an mp3 or something else to listen to. Didn't I read somewhere that a few "items" were found in the search?

I would be really interested to know when she was last seen before Saturday morning. Children as young as hers are a handfull. If she and her husband were not getting along, I'll bet he resented helping take care of the kids while she trained for the marathon. I'll bet he especially did not like it if she went to run early Saturday morning and the little ones woke him up before she got home. Hmm...wonder if she arrived home Sat. AM from her run to find and outraged husband 'cause he had to get up with the kiddos? Just speculation of course!

Susan

[IdahoMom]

A blog related to Nancy's disappearance is in place:

http://nancycooper.blogspot.com/

[BrowneyedEmily]

The median income in Cary is $104,858, so it's a pretty affluent place. I was driving past the intersection mentioned in the articles at about 8 a.m. the same day she went missing. There isn't much to notice, other than there is some construction going on just down the road. It's right next to a golf course, and is on a hill. I would be surprised if it were the husband, but I've been surprised before.

There have been a lot of unsolved crimes here, outside of the Ft. Bragg crimes - Janet Abaroa, Jenna Nielsen, Michelle Young. There have also been some attacks in a park in the past year, though I'm not sure which park it was, but I don't think it was near this location. One woman was hit in the back of the head with a rock by a man, but she managed to get away. Hopefully this woman can make it out alive.

[SuziQ]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3203263/

(snips)
Meanwhile, investigators said they were also interviewing Nancy Cooper's family members and acquaintances to learn more about her life.

And police have also scheduled a 1:30 p.m. news conference about the case.

Police say no one has reported seeing Cooper, 34, after a dinner party in the neighborhood that ended late Friday night.

Brad Cooper told police his wife went out about 7 a.m. Saturday but did not return by 9 a.m. or meet friends later that morning, as planned.

[Blink34]

You'd think she would at least take her cell phone, especially after what has happened in NC lately. I wish I had seen her husband on Fox.

Im a runner and the only time I EVER take my cell and don't blare my IPod, is if I am out of town and unfamiliar with the area; otherwise, my kids would call me 6x in an hour.

[philamena]

NEWS CONFERENCE AT 1:30PM EST
http://www.charlotte.com/breaking_news/story/711809.html
Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore plans a news briefing this afternoon on the investigation into the disappearance of a mother of two who has not been seen since Saturday morning.

[philamena]

hummm I leaning towards the husband killing the wife Friday night after the get together. His claim to her jogging Sunday morning is a lie to cover his butt. IMO.

[Just the Fax]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3199834/ (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3199834/)

"Cooper's husband said he and his wife were having marital issues, but he wouldn't discuss them further."

Police say no one has reported seeing Cooper, 34, after a dinner party in the neighborhood that ended late Friday night (midnight)

"Meanwhile, investigators said they were also interviewing Nancy Cooper's family members and acquaintances to learn more about her life."

Was there too much wine or maybe a jealous rage ?
I have a suspicion the husband is involved in this.

[Blink34]

Sunday's early articles mentioned Mrs. Cooper's children but not her husband. The below article says the husband was at home with the children. (Now my hinky meter is up.):confused:

If the quote about the husband is accurate, it is odd that LE would issue a statement that "he is not considered a suspect". As opposed to a looser comment like "We have no suspects at this time" or "We cannot rule out anyone/anything until we can establish if an actual crime has been committed." You know the "we don't want anyone to lawyer up speak."

I'll guess we will see at the PressC

[SuziQ]

Fox video-Where is Nancy Cooper?

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2297099&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b 0c12f2749

[Blink34]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3199834/ (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3199834/)

"Cooper's husband said he and his wife were having marital issues, but he wouldn't discuss them further."

Police say no one has reported seeing Cooper, 34, after a dinner party in the neighborhood that ended late Friday night (midnight)

"Meanwhile, investigators said they were also interviewing Nancy Cooper's family members and acquaintances to learn more about her life."

Was there too much wine or maybe a jealous rage ?
I have a suspicion the husband is involved in this.

Well I hate to admit it, but for the hubby to "pre-emptively" admit that means there are skeletons in the closet we will learn about shortly. He would appear to be following the "if I bring it up first it will appear I have nothing to hide protocol."

[SuziQ]

After watching the vid and listening to Nancy's husband, I'm now on the fence. He's appropriately concerned, not too much, not too less. Usually there's a strange comment or something. I didn't pic up anything unusual. Anyone else?

[Pepper]

I'm definitely suspicious and that was before learning about "marital issues". It's my interpretation of his voice on the Fox interview this morning. He sounded more nervous than concerned.

[BrowneyedEmily]

I don't know, I'm hesitant to suspect the guy because of nervousness. If my spouse were missing, I would be really nervous, too - nervous that I would learn something I never want to. But I am also pretty gullible.

[Taximom]

Well I hate to admit it, but for the hubby to "pre-emptively" admit that means there are skeletons in the closet we will learn about shortly. He would appear to be following the "if I bring it up first it will appear I have nothing to hide protocol."

Sadly, those were my first thoughts as well. :(

I'm a walker and I always carry my cell phone and drivers license! I wouldn't go anywhere without either nowadays! You are brave!

[Pepper]

I don't know, I'm hesitant to suspect the guy because of nervousness. If my spouse were missing, I would be really nervous, too - nervous that I would learn something I never want to. But I am also pretty gullible.

I'm not ready to convict him yet, BUT......

Who would want to abduct a woman out jogging in the early morning? Stranger abductions are so very rare, and at 6 am she wouldn't be the only one out walking or jogging in her neighborhood. What would be the motive for a stranger to do this? And then to learn there were "marital issues" :eek: just makes me very suspicious.

[Annie]

hummm I leaning towards the husband killing the wife Friday night after the get together. His claim to her jogging Sunday morning is a lie to cover his butt. IMO.

This sounds eerily like Lori Hacking. Her husband, Mark Hacking, said she went jogging and her car was even at the place where she was supposed to have started her jog if I remember right. Instead he had killed her and put her in a dumpster. It really seems strange that she carried no cell phone or no ID. He would be first on my suspect list.

[ckwood32]

I haven't watched the videos yet - but why would he state they were having marital difficulties? If she truly is missing and he had NOTHING to do with it - that statement is pointless.

[BrowneyedEmily]

Well, it does make more sense if the husband were involved.

But there are many felons around where she lives, with charges like attempted kidnapping and stalking (http://www.felonspy.com/search.html). I just hope LE is considering each and every possibility...

[TGIRecovered]

If there was a block party the nite before, maybe he was hung over the next morning. Wife goes out to run, little ones wake him up, he's not happy...? I don't know if he's a drinker, but I'm thinking that the neighbors would have noticed if he seemed angry the night before. I'm thinking it's more likely he did something to her the next morning.
Just a former drinker's intuition I guess. We'll see.

Susan

[ckwood32]

I bet he killed her the night before - right after the party.

[panthera]

A woman goes on a early morning jog and simply disappears.
She is a seasoned runner and is preparing/practicing to run a marathon.
Her husband is the last person to see her alive.
Some 'items' were found in the park but didn't lead LE to her.

We have some savory characters who loaf around our parks on the weekends.
Makes me wonder if she ran into a drug deal....

ETA-Fox news this morning (Monday) reported that Nancy's ID, liscense and keys were at home.
She was also suppose to meet friends later that morning after her run.


I too saw the update on Fox News this morning. I never leave home without my cellphone & ID but everyone's different. I wonder if she had had the phone with her if it would've helped ~ and I'm sure hoping that this time the husband isn't the perpetrator. :(

[Just the Fax]

Essica Adams, a friend of Cooper, reported her missing at 2:15 p.m. when she failed to show up for a visit, police said at a press conference Monday evening.

Brad Cooper told police his wife went out for a jog around 7 a.m. Saturday but did not return by 9 a.m. as planned.

When asked why Brad Cooper had not called police about his wife, Cary police Chief Bazemore said, "We don't know why the husband didn't report her missing."

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[Just the Fax]

Notice textbook police psychology.
The husband is cooperating....thanks :blowkiss:

[pixies]

Essica Adams, a friend of Cooper, reported her missing at 2:15 p.m. when she failed to show up for a visit, police said at a press conference Monday evening.

Brad Cooper told police his wife went out for a jog around 7 a.m. Saturday but did not return by 9 a.m. as planned.

When asked why Brad Cooper had not called police about his wife, Cary police Chief Bazemore said, "We don't know why the husband didn't report her missing."

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*groans*
I am hoping he did not harm his wife.

I am also wondering why the friends rushed to assume she was missing just because she missed a meeting. I understand she was always on time and never stood anyone up but it seems not enough time passed for them to be worried unless she told them to worry if she did not show up....

[Just the Fax]

*groans*
I am hoping he did not harm his wife.

I am also wondering why the friends rushed to assume she was missing just because she missed a meeting. I understand she was always on time and never stood anyone up but it seems not enough time passed for them to be worried unless she told them to worry if she did not show up....

Notice in the fox report, the father praised the friends for their efforts and never once mentioned Brad....more to come

[SuziQ]

(snip)
Police say Cooper's husband was the last person to see her Saturday morning, but do not consider him a suspect.
"We've been in constant communication with the husband since Saturday. And we're talking directly with him," Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore said. "We have not named a person of interest or a suspect."
At a press conference Monday evening, Bazemore said Cooper's husband did not report her missing. He did not say why Brad Cooper didn't report his wife missing.
"She went out running, was going to help friend paint and didn't show up. A friend called 911 just before 3 p.m. to report her missing," Bazemore said. "The last person who actually saw her was Brad Cooper when she came home that night and first thing in the morning."
No word of the kids also saw her. The children have been with father, family and friends.

[SuziQ]

Today's presser:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/3204476/

[panthera]

(snip)
Police say Cooper's husband was the last person to see her Saturday morning, but do not consider him a suspect.
"We've been in constant communication with the husband since Saturday. And we're talking directly with him," Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore said. "We have not named a person of interest or a suspect."
At a press conference Monday evening, Bazemore said Cooper's husband did not report her missing. He did not say why Brad Cooper didn't report his wife missing.
"She went out running, was going to help friend paint and didn't show up. A friend called 911 just before 3 p.m. to report her missing," Bazemore said. "The last person who actually saw her was Brad Cooper when she came home that night and first thing in the morning."
No word of the kids also saw her. The children have been with father, family and friends.
I also noticed in one of the articles that she was supposed to start her jog at Java Jive. I wonder if anyone saw her there? I'm sure hoping the husband isn't involved in Nancy's disappearance, but it still seems odd to me she'd go out alone without the cellphone or any ID ~ and the children are too young to be an alibi for him, imo. I too find it odd he didn't report her missing but her friends did. I wonder if she'd tipped them off that everything at home might not be as ok as the husband wants LE to believe.

[Just the Fax]

(snip)
Police say Cooper's husband was the last person to see her Saturday morning, but do not consider him a suspect.
"We've been in constant communication with the husband since Saturday. And we're talking directly with him," Cary Police Chief Pat Bazemore said. "We have not named a person of interest or a suspect."
At a press conference Monday evening, Bazemore said Cooper's husband did not report her missing. He did not say why Brad Cooper didn't report his wife missing.
"She went out running, was going to help friend paint and didn't show up. A friend called 911 just before 3 p.m. to report her missing," Bazemore said. "The last person who actually saw her was Brad Cooper when she came home that night and first thing in the morning."
No word of the kids also saw her. The children have been with father, family and friends.

Notice the key words "not named" a person of interest.
Last thing they want is for him to lawyer up like wife killer, Jason Young.

Like I said, textbook police psychology when talking about the husband
(prime suspect...imo)

[panthera]

Notice the key words "not named" a person of interest.
Last thing they want is for him to lawyer up like wife killer, Jason Young.

Like I said, textbook police psychology when talking about the husband
(prime suspect...imo)
Good point! I think he has to be looked at just because he was the last person to have seen her. Maybe her friends also told LE something that LE isn't revealing, like why they called and reported her missing after such a short period of time.

[Pepper]

She has an identical twin sister. How sad.

[panthera]

She has an identical twin sister. How sad.
I've heard it said that a twin can instinctively know if their twin is in danger, has been hurt or is dead. I wonder what Nancy's twin feels?

[IdahoMom]

It strikes me as odd that friends would report Nancy missing and not her husband, Brad.

It's also weird, imo, that Brad wasn't at the news conference.

[christine2448]

Not sure if y'all noticed, I have an announcement posted 'forum wide'. (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/announcement.php?f=60)volunteers needed.....

Help needed for search efforts underway in Cary North Carolina for Missing woman, Nancy Cooper: please contact the CUE Center for Missing Persons if able to provide resources or help. Thank you

Monica Caison
CUE Center for Missing Persons
PO Box 12714 Wilmington, NC 28405
(910) 343-1131 or (910) 232-1687
cuecenter@aol.com
http://www.ncmissingpersons.org

[panthera]

It strikes me as odd that friends would report Nancy missing and not her husband, Brad.

It's also weird, imo, that Brad wasn't at the news conference.
I too am really beginning to think there's some meaning to this. Look how quickly an all-out search was started. Normally there's supposed to be a 24-hr. period before LE will even get involved. I really think now that the friends said something to LE that Nancy had told them "if she's ever late ~ ".

[panthera]

Not sure if y'all noticed, I have an announcement posted 'forum wide'. (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/announcement.php?f=60)volunteers needed.....

Help needed for search efforts underway in Cary North Carolina for Missing woman, Nancy Cooper: please contact the CUE Center for Missing Persons if able to provide resources or help. Thank you

Monica Caison
CUE Center for Missing Persons
PO Box 12714 Wilmington, NC 28405
(910) 343-1131 or (910) 232-1687
cuecenter@aol.com
http://www.ncmissingpersons.org
Thanks for posting this! I'm over 2 hrs. away from Cary & can't get away from work, but we've got some family & friends a little closer who might be able to help. :)

[wherego]

I'm definitely suspicious and that was before learning about "marital issues". It's my interpretation of his voice on the Fox interview this morning. He sounded more nervous than concerned.

I'm wondering if an innocent person whose wife and the mother of his children has just disappeared, who is suddenly being interviewed by LE and has the national media swooping down on them is not allowed to be "nervous". I really don't think any of us could possibly predict or even imagine what our voice might sound like or our reaction might be if we were walking a mile in the same shoes.

[Busylady]

Why would the husband not call police if she went out for a jog at 6 am and not home by 2:45?

[christine2448]

:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:Why would the husband not call police if she went out for a jog at 6 am and not home by 2:45?:waitasec::waitasec::waitasec:

[KR2tonenow]

Just saw this video, the poor husband sounds devastated!

[NancyFriend]

I am a friend of Nancy Cooper’s and am directly involved in the search efforts. I would like to pose a question to the websleuths community as it appears many of you have followed missing persons cases. The volunteers are currently talking with the police to obtain recommendations on areas to search (running trails, off-trail areas, etc). We are posting flyers all over town, and the local and national news are covering the story. We have a website setup to disseminate information. Could the websleuth members suggest any other actions that the volunteers could do?

[Blink34]

I too am really beginning to think there's some meaning to this. Look how quickly an all-out search was started. Normally there's supposed to be a 24-hr. period before LE will even get involved. I really think now that the friends said something to LE that Nancy had told them "if she's ever late ~ ".

The 24 hour thing is no longer a requirement, for adults that are not in imminent physical danger, it can be immediate based on the discression of LE. I'm guessing the fact that hubby did not report it, the friend did, LE confirms with Hubby she is not around is enough.

I am not basing my opinion on whether or not the hubby looks nervous.
I'm basing it on the fact that it has been 72 hours, I know that LE has at least completed an initial paralell investigation into the husband (standard protocol) which would be enough time to rule him out; they have not.
If she is not located by tomorrow I predict their will be search warrants, unless they have already been executed and have been sealed. In addition to the prob cause which would net surveillance and wiretap if substantiated.

Their pressr wording is very indicative of LE protecting the integrity of the investigation and ultimately finding Nancy; which I am guessing is their priority. We have all seen too many of these cases, and I can't honestly think of a one that ends well under these circumstances.

[Blink34]

I am a friend of Nancy Cooper’s and am directly involved in the search efforts. I would like to pose a question to the websleuths community as it appears many of you have followed missing persons cases. The volunteers are currently talking with the police to obtain recommendations on areas to search (running trails, off-trail areas, etc). We are posting flyers all over town, and the local and national news are covering the story. We have a website setup to disseminate information. Could the websleuth members suggest any other actions that the volunteers could do?

I recommend contacting Texas Equusearch, I can provide you the specific contact info, and give them a heads up the family will be reaching out, but they need the MP case data from a family member initially.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.

[Blink34]

Just saw this video, the poor husband sounds devastated!

DO you have a link?

[christine2448]

I recommend contacting Texas Equusearch, I can provide you the specific contact info, and give them a heads up the family will be reaching out, but they need the MP case data from a family member initially.
Our thoughts and prayers are with you.


Yes, if there are areas to be searched, surely contact TES...family must request help. They have AMAZING resources.

I have contact info for case mgr if you need contact info, email me.

[Annie]

A body has just been found floating in a body of water near where she lives. Greta is talking about it.

[christine2448]

Tunin' in thanks!

[panthera]

I am a friend of Nancy Cooper’s and am directly involved in the search efforts. I would like to pose a question to the websleuths community as it appears many of you have followed missing persons cases. The volunteers are currently talking with the police to obtain recommendations on areas to search (running trails, off-trail areas, etc). We are posting flyers all over town, and the local and national news are covering the story. We have a website setup to disseminate information. Could the websleuth members suggest any other actions that the volunteers could do?
My thoughts and prayers are with you and all of Nancy's family & friends. :) I too think of Texas Equusearch and even if they can't come in to assist in searching, they can give a lot of valuable information. Just make sure the media doesn't stop covering Nancy's disappearance!! Also, John Walsh at America's Most Wanted!

[SeriouslySearching]

According to the reporter on Greta:

The female body was found by a man walking his dog. It was near her home and not on her jogging route. She was reported missing by a friend and not by her husband (who is the only one who said she was jogging, but no one saw her or has confirmed it).

[panthera]

A body has just been found floating in a body of water near where she lives. Greta is talking about it.
Thanks so much :) I just changed the station to Greta! It's really odd that no one saw her if she really was out jogging.

[SeriouslySearching]

I am a friend of Nancy Cooper’s and am directly involved in the search efforts. I would like to pose a question to the websleuths community as it appears many of you have followed missing persons cases. The volunteers are currently talking with the police to obtain recommendations on areas to search (running trails, off-trail areas, etc). We are posting flyers all over town, and the local and national news are covering the story. We have a website setup to disseminate information. Could the websleuth members suggest any other actions that the volunteers could do?I am so sorry, NancyFriend. I posted this information before I saw your post. I was only reporting here what they were saying on Fox News on Greta.

While they have not positively identified her, they are leaning towards it being her it sounds like. Bless her family and Bless her friends. I am sure this isn't the news you wanted to hear. Hugs~

[SeriouslySearching]

I think we can safely say that they are going to be looking carefully at the husband as a POI or they may go ahead with naming him as a suspect as soon as they ID her, figure out the TOD, and the preliminary COD.

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks so much :) I just changed the station to Greta! It's really odd that no one saw her if she really was out jogging.They mentioned it was a busy Sat. morning with a lot of people out and about. Someone should have seen her.

[panthera]

They mentioned it was a busy Sat. morning with a lot of people out and about. Someone should have seen her.
I know ~ I heard Amanda (wral reporter) say that too. :(

[Just the Fax]

Per WRAl.....A body was found late Monday along Holly Springs Rd. This is not far from where a Cary jogger went missing, police say.

[panthera]

I think we can safely say that they are going to be looking carefully at the husband as a POI or they may go ahead with naming him as a suspect as soon as they ID her, figure out the TOD, and the preliminary COD.
Sadly, if this person who was just found isn't Nancy, it means someone else was missing & is now dead. It's only been a couple of days so there shouldn't be too much problem identifying who she is.

[Blink34]

I think we can safely say that they are going to be looking carefully at the husband as a POI or they may go ahead with naming him as a suspect as soon as they ID her, figure out the TOD, and the preliminary COD.

I just wanted to say as I see Nancyfriends first post was requesting our help and now this news- that, as a newcomer, if you are inclined to read the whole thread, please know that while it looks on the surface that we all had this "pegged" in the first 5 minutes based on experience, I can tell you first hand having been through it, it does not take any of the pain away, and we are all here to send our support and prayers to you and the family. Whether we end up being "spot on" or not, for me, I always wish I was wrong, and am always shocked and humbled by a really devastating result.

God Bless

[Just the Fax]

A body was found Monday evening in Wake County, and police said they were looking into the possibility that it was the body of a missing Cary woman.
At about 7:30 p.m., a man walking his dog reported seeing a person floating in a pond near Holly Springs Road and Fielding Drive.
That location is not far from where a mother of two reportedly went for a jog around 7 a.m. Saturday.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

[IdahoMom]

I am a friend of Nancy Cooper’s and am directly involved in the search efforts. I would like to pose a question to the websleuths community as it appears many of you have followed missing persons cases. The volunteers are currently talking with the police to obtain recommendations on areas to search (running trails, off-trail areas, etc). We are posting flyers all over town, and the local and national news are covering the story. We have a website setup to disseminate information. Could the websleuth members suggest any other actions that the volunteers could do?

Welcome to Websleuths. I'm sorry we're "meeting" under such sad circumstances. I'm still praying that Nancy is found safe.

[christine2448]

I just wanted to say as I see Nancyfriends first post was requesting our help and now this news- that, as a newcomer, if you are inclined to read the whole thread, please know that while it looks on the surface that we all had this "pegged" in the first 5 minutes based on experience, I can tell you first hand having been through it, it does not take any of the pain away, and we are all here to send our support and prayers to you and the family. Whether we end up being "spot on" or not, for me, I always wish I was wrong, and am always shocked and humbled by a really devastating result.

God Bless


Amen, & Ditto. Sending strength, love, prayers to all involved, sincerely.

[Just the Fax]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=6732436026999789201,35.724786,-78.746530&saddr=Fielding+Dr+%4035.724786,+-78.746530&daddr=35.738048,-78.757682&mra=mi&mrsp=1,0&sz=17&sll=35.73682,-78.756255&sspn=0.003518,0.010772&ie=UTF8&ll=35.7323,-78.74897&spn=0.028148,0.086174&t=h&z=14 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=6732436026999789201,35.724786,-78.746530&saddr=Fielding+Dr+%4035.724786,+-78.746530&daddr=35.738048,-78.757682&mra=mi&mrsp=1,0&sz=17&sll=35.73682,-78.756255&sspn=0.003518,0.010772&ie=UTF8&ll=35.7323,-78.74897&spn=0.028148,0.086174&t=h&z=14)


She did not run there...she was dumped in that lake.
Holly springs road is a 2 lane rural highway.

Sad

[panthera]

If anyone's still watching Greta she has more on Nancy coming up after commercial.

[Taximom]

I sure hope the body isn't Nancy. Please let her be safe somewhere. Please let the truth be known in this case asap.

[IdahoMom]

Some new info here.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

snip

...Jessica Adams, a friend of Nancy Cooper, reported her missing at 2:15 p.m. when she failed to show up for a visit, police said at a news conference Monday evening.

Brad Cooper told police his 34-year-old wife went out for a jog around 7 a.m. Saturday but did not return by 9 a.m. as planned.
When asked why Brad Cooper had not called police about his wife, Cary police Chief Pat Bazemore said, "We don't know why the husband didn't report her missing."...

and

...Bazemore said that Brad Cooper was being cooperative and had agreed to let the police search the couple's house and cars. She confirmed that he had told police that they were experiencing marital problems.
Brad Cooper made his first public statement at an evening news conference, but did not answer any questions. He thanked all the volunteers and said he hopes anyone with information would come forward...

---

[NancyFriend]

Please keep me/us posted on what you hear in the news. I'm in contact with other volunteers about this recent news and may not be able to watch Greta.

[Blink34]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=6732436026999789201,35.724786,-78.746530&saddr=Fielding+Dr+%4035.724786,+-78.746530&daddr=35.738048,-78.757682&mra=mi&mrsp=1,0&sz=17&sll=35.73682,-78.756255&sspn=0.003518,0.010772&ie=UTF8&ll=35.7323,-78.74897&spn=0.028148,0.086174&t=h&z=14


She did not run there...she was dumped in that lake.
Holly springs road is a 2 lane rural highway.

Sad

Is it Lochmere? Does anyone know where the neighborhood dinner was Friday evening? According to an interview Brad gave, she had established routes and surprise, this is not one of them, she ran "through the neighborhood" and in the park.

[Blink34]

Please keep me/us posted on what you hear in the news. I'm in contact with other volunteers about this recent news and may not be able to watch Greta.

My dear Nancyfriend, will do. Thicken your skin as you will need it and get some rest.
:blowkiss:
Blink

[panthera]

Please keep me/us posted on what you hear in the news. I'm in contact with other volunteers about this recent news and may not be able to watch Greta.

WRAL reporter Amanda Lamb on the phone with Greta from where the woman's body was found. One mile beyond neighborhood where Nancy lived, in a new subdivision. Investigators and many LE at the scene. Body will go to ME's office for autopsy. Not confirming yet that it is Nancy. Police told media earlier today that husband conceded to allow LE to search their cars. Friends haven't said much about Nancy's behavior Friday night but that she would not leave her children. Area where the body was found isn't where someone would've been jogging.

[Pepper]

I just wanted to say as I see Nancyfriends first post was requesting our help and now this news- that, as a newcomer, if you are inclined to read the whole thread, please know that while it looks on the surface that we all had this "pegged" in the first 5 minutes based on experience, I can tell you first hand having been through it, it does not take any of the pain away, and we are all here to send our support and prayers to you and the family. Whether we end up being "spot on" or not, for me, I always wish I was wrong, and am always shocked and humbled by a really devastating result.

God Bless

Blink said it perfectly. Our deepest condolences to all her friends and family, and may her killer be punished appropriately.

I sincerely hope it isn't her husband, though I fear it is. There is absolutely no more selfish individual than a parent who would destroy the other parent of their children. For if he is guilty he has then deprived his children of both parents. How utterly selfish and cruel to the small children he claims to love.

[SeriouslySearching]

Good job, Panthera. Thanks.

[Just the Fax]

Is it Lochmere? Does anyone know where the neighborhood dinner was Friday evening? According to an interview Brad gave, she had established routes and surprise, this is not one of them, she ran "through the neighborhood" and in the park.


She would NOT run on Holly Springs rd

A random attacker in a park would not transport her body to a remote lake.

This smells to high heaven/

[Wolfpack Fan]

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1140988.html

[panthera]

She would NOT run on Holly Springs rd

A random attacker in a park would not transport her body to a remote lake.

This smells to high heaven/
Just thinking practically here, but what are the chances of someone with no personal belongings being mugged in the park on a busy Saturday morning, then transported to someplace else and dumped ~ in broad daylight? It doesn't seem likely especially when no one remembers seeing her at all that morning.

[SeriouslySearching]

About zero to less than zero, Panthera.

The fact it was a busy Saturday morning with others out and no one saw her at the park, no one saw her jogging along the street, no one saw her at an intersection, and no one saw her that morning at all...says to me the stranger story is pretty thin at best. The last person known to have seen her was her husband, who has admitted they had a troubled marriage. If the TOD doesn't match with his story for Saturday a.m. or after, then it will go back to the night before. She attended a dinner (I am not aware of any specifics...did he go with her? When did she leave? Where was he? Did she go anywhere else?) and the time she was actually reported missing...it could be anytime in between.

[Just the Fax]

She wanted a separation and Brad would not leave....per wral

I bet he strangled or smothered her after midnight .
He then dressed her in her jogging cloths and dumped her in the remote pond.

[Fairy1]

Oh no! I'm sorry, but it's nearly impossible to believe - particularly today - that the husband is not involved. Dam~ it! How many times do we need to see this?????????? Divorce, heard of it?

My sincere thoughts and prayers go out to her friends and family. I am so very sorry.

[panthera]

About zero to less than zero, Panthera.
I know ~ but it would be a good place for someone to put her to make it look like that happened, imo.

for Nancy :rose::rose:

[philamena]

when asked why brad cooper had not called police about his wife, cary police chief pat bazemore said, "we don't know why the husband didn't report her missing."...
red flag

[Crazy Canuck]

After reading the article about her husband saying she was jogging with someone named Carrie I am quite convinced he did it. Its seems as though he was stalling nancy's friend from calling the police. However, some men just aren't worriers. My husband lives in a fantasy world where nothing bad ever happens and people who worry are paranoid so I think that could be an explanation of why he wasn't the one who called police (if he is innocent - which I'm not sure he is)

It is also odd that this is the first we've heard about her going jogging with someone else. Why wasn't anyone questioning this carrie or asking for her to come forward?

[panthera]

red flag
Because he thought he might be the first suspect? I know, a big red flag! :mad:

[philamena]

Nancy'sfriend,
Continued prayers for you, Nancy's other friends and family members. (((hugs)))

[panthera]

After reading the article about her husband saying she was jogging with someone named Carrie I am quite convinced he did it. Its seems as though he was stalling nancy's friend from calling the police. However, some men just aren't worriers. My husband lives in a fantasy world where nothing bad ever happens and people who worry are paranoid so I think that could be an explanation of why he wasn't the one who called police (if he is innocent - which I'm not sure he is)

It is also odd that this is the first we've heard about her going jogging with someone else. Why wasn't anyone questioning this carrie or asking for her to come forward?
Well obviously she didn't go jogging with Carrie since no one saw her at all that morning. An innocent explanation would be Nancy told him she was going with Carrie, but more realistically, I think, is she never went at all.

[SeriouslySearching]

Cooper's father, mother and identical twin sister traveled from Canada to assist in the search.

"We have been here today to help find Nancy," Cooper's father, Garry Rentz said. "We believe she will be brought home soon. And we thank the community for the support that they've given and ask they continue in their effort to find our daughter."

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

Awww, I didn't know she had an identical twin sister. :( How very sad for her and the rest of the family. Bless their hearts. I just can't imagine.

Can I ask where the children are?

[philamena]

Because he thought he might be the first suspect? I know, a big red flag! :mad:


panthera,
Yes indeedy.
I hope the husband has been under surveillance since Nancy disappeared.

[KaylynnCouture]

:rose: For Nancy.

[Just the Fax]

panthera,
Yes indeedy.
I hope the husband has been under surveillance since Nancy disappeared.

I hope the 2 little girls are safe tonight.
Brad is going down for this.

[philamena]

Well obviously she didn't go jogging with Carrie since no one saw her at all that morning. An innocent explanation would be Nancy told him she was going with Carrie, but more realistically, I think, is she never went at all.

We seem to be on the same road panthera.
I think something terrible happened to Nancy Friday night and her husband made up the jogging story to cover his tracks.

I'm awfully concerned about the children.
Anyone know if they home Friday night?

[philamena]

I hope the 2 little girls are safe tonight.
Brad is going down for this.

I hope they are safe too Just the Fax.

[Just the Fax]

If she has her jogging clothes on ....and she will....that will be his alibi.
(so he thinks):boohoo:

[SeriouslySearching]

I guess he didn't stop to read the playbook written by Drew Peterson and Craig Stebic. It is ok for the wife to go missing from the home and for you to be the last known person to see her...but you can never allow her to be found. Also, it is not a good idea if you are involved to welcome LE to search your home and vehicles. (Of course, now they will get a search warrant.)

[panthera]

panthera,
Yes indeedy.
I hope the husband has been under surveillance since Nancy disappeared.
Well according to the news, he voluntarily allowed LE to search their cars. Of course, if he did do it, and used her car, her DNA would be all over it anyway. Thankfully, if the body is Nancy's, it's only been 2 days since she was reported missing, so that will make it much easier for the ME.

[SeriouslySearching]

Well according to the news, he voluntarily allowed LE to search their cars. Of course, if he did do it, and used her car, her DNA would be all over it anyway. Thankfully, if the body is Nancy's, it's only been 2 days since she was reported missing, so that will make it much easier for the ME.Actually on Greta, they mentioned he did say that, but they had not conducted any searches. Since they may have found her, they will wait and get the proper SWs before going in. This way they can do a complete forensic search instead of a preliminary search.

[panthera]

If she has her jogging clothes on ....and she will....that will be his alibi.
(so he thinks):boohoo:
This is exactly what I'm thinking ~ assuming the body is Nancy and he did it ~ that he set it up to look like something happened to her while she was jogging. Oh, that reminds me ~ Laci went to the park too (not really). Someone must have been following SP's playbook. :mad:

[Just the Fax]

Well according to the news, he voluntarily allowed LE to search their cars. Of course, if he did do it, and used her car, her DNA would be all over it anyway. Thankfully, if the body is Nancy's, it's only been 2 days since she was reported missing, so that will make it much easier for the ME.

No knife or gun....bare hands leave few clues.
They will get him though

[panthera]

Actually on Greta, they mentioned he did say that, but they had not conducted any searches. Since they may have found her, they will wait and get the proper SWs before going in. This way they can do a complete forensic search instead of a preliminary search.
Right ~ I was just mentioning his cooperation! :)

[philamena]

Just thinking practically here, but what are the chances of someone with no personal belongings being mugged in the park on a busy Saturday morning, then transported to someplace else and dumped ~ in broad daylight? It doesn't seem likely especially when no one remembers seeing her at all that morning.

Sadly the chances are slim to none. :(

[Just the Fax]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

The body was laying in dirt alongside a cul-de-sac that has been cut in preparation for a new subdivision, WAke County Sheriff Donnie Harrison

not in pond

[panthera]

No knife or gun....bare hands leave few clues.
They will get him though
If it happened Friday night, I'd think the ME would be able to tell by stomach contents and blood test if she had alcohol. That would definitely disprove she went jogging Sat. morning, imo.

[philamena]

From the above article:


"I never understood there to be anything in terms of a physical threat, but a tense marriage. No, I didn't have any specific reason other than just concern for my friend,” Adams

[SeriouslySearching]

Actually, that is going to allow the ME to garner more evidence. This is in her favor.

[Just the Fax]

If it happened Friday night, I'd think the ME would be able to tell by stomach contents and blood test if she had alcohol. That would definitely disprove she went jogging Sat. morning, imo.

Excellent point panthera.

I predict he cracks soon like Hacking.

[panthera]

Actually, that is going to allow the ME to garner more evidence. This is in her favor.
I'm thinking the same thing, except for being exposed to the elements (heat).

[SeriouslySearching]

However, we don't know if she was in the water at some point or not...but the man with the dog reported her as being in the water. Something is odd there.

[Just the Fax]

However, we don't know if she was in the water at some point or not...but the man with the dog reported her as being in the water. Something is odd there.
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3206686/

The body was laying in dirt alongside a cul-de-sac that has been cut in preparation for a new subdivision, WAke County Sheriff Donnie Harrison

not in pond

[panthera]

We should be hearing a lot more details tomorrow, and most importantly if this is Nancy. My prayers to her family, especially her parents, sister, and her precious little children. :rose:

Have a good night everyone! :wave:

[philamena]

Night panther.

[NancyFriend]

Several posters mentioned they read that Brad said she went jogging Saturday morning with Carrie. Can someone provide a link to that quote?

Also, any ideas why the Town of Cary police chief said the body was found in a pond (which she definitely did in her press conference) but now the County Sheriff is saying the body was found in dirt?

[NancyFriend]

For any fellow volunteers.....

We still plan to meet with volunteers tomorrow at Resurrection Lutheran church on the corner of Lochmere West and Kildaire Farm Road, our main focus will be the following:

* Celebrate Nancy. If you knew her, please start thinking of those quintessential Nancy stories that make her what she is. If they are personal, write them down in a personal journal. If they can be shared, please consider sharing them.

* Plan the next steps for when we get news from the coroner's office

* Be there as a community for each other and the family

[SeriouslySearching]

Several posters mentioned they read that Brad said she went jogging Saturday morning with Carrie. Can someone provide a link to that quote?

Also, any ideas why the Town of Cary police chief said the body was found in a pond (which she definitely did in her press conference) but now the County Sheriff is saying the body was found in dirt?I am not aware of that quote, but I would be glad to try to track it down for you.

I don't know why there is a discrepancy between the Sheriff and the Chief on where she was found. I find it very odd myself. Unfortunately, they are the only ones who would be able to explain it.

[SeriouslySearching]

For any fellow volunteers.....

We still plan to meet with volunteers tomorrow at Resurrection Lutheran church on the corner of Lochmere West and Kildaire Farm Road, our main focus will be the following:

* Celebrate Nancy. If you knew her, please start thinking of those quintessential Nancy stories that make her what she is. If they are personal, write them down in a personal journal. If they can be shared, please consider sharing them.

* Plan the next steps for when we get news from the coroner's office

* Be there as a community for each other and the familyWhat a lovely idea to have the volunteers meet tomorrow and share their thoughts. Right now to come together to help each other is so important. On a lot of cases I have seen, LE usually calls off the searches without telling them why and they are left on their own. I like the idea of getting together instead. Strength and love will carry you through this horrific ordeal. I wish you all the best. It sounds like you did the right things and your searches were purposefully sent in the wrong directions. You all did a good job and I know the family must appreciate it very much. Hugs~

[SeriouslySearching]

When Cooper didn’t show up, Adam called Brad Cooper. She said he told her that his wife had gone for a run with a friend, but he wasn’t sure which friend. Adam said he later called to say he thought the friend was someone named Carrie and wanted to know whether Adam knew how to contact Carrie.

Adam knew someone by that name but said she didn’t know the woman’s last name and did not have her phone number. Cooper said he was going to continue looking for Carrie’s phone number and hung up, Adam said. Adam said she felt that something had gone wrong and called police.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1140988.html

[Blink34]

She wanted a separation and Brad would not leave....per wral

I bet he strangled or smothered her after midnight .
He then dressed her in her jogging cloths and dumped her in the remote pond.

DO you have a link on that or quote- that's a huge comment.

[PrayersForMaura]

why did the friend report her missing, and not the hubby?

"
Cary police said Monday that Brad Cooper was cooperating, answering questions and allowing them to search his house and cars. About 3:45 p.m. Monday, police searched the couple's BMW sedan and BMW SUV. They also removed a Louis Vuitton purse from one vehicle.
Brad Cooper said Monday in an interview in the driveway of the couple's Wallsburg Court home that the couple was having marital problems, but not to the point he felt his wife would leave him and their two children. Adam said the two children stayed at her house Monday.
Cooper works at Cisco Systems while Nancy Cooper stayed at home with their children.
Nancy Cooper's parents, Donna and Garry Rentz of Edmonton, Alberta, and her identical twin sister, Khrista Lister, of Toronto arrived Monday morning."



http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1141867.html

[SeriouslySearching]

About 3:45 p.m. Monday, police searched the couple's BMW sedan and BMW SUV. They also removed a Louis Vuitton purse from one vehicle.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1141867.html

So they did get to search the cars! Interesting! Who leaves a Louis Vuitton purse in the car?! By the way it sounds, he stood to lose a LOT of money if she divorced him.

[Blink34]

About 3:45 p.m. Monday, police searched the couple's BMW sedan and BMW SUV. They also removed a Louis Vuitton purse from one vehicle.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1141867.html

So they did get to search the cars! Interesting! Who leaves a Louis Vuitton purse in the car?! By the way it sounds, he stood to lose a LOT of money if she divorced him.

Right?? I want all of these a-holes that think they can get away with this stuff to ask those on death row or with life sentences if there is any amount of money worth living, or dieing as it were, to end up where they are- I dont get it.

[SeriouslySearching]

The problem is...they don't think about the consequences of getting caught. These are narcissistic men who believe they can get away with anything. They do not see themselves behind bars until they are there...then they can't believe a jury would convict them! They are shocked when the verdict comes back each and every time.

[Celt]

About 3:45 p.m. Monday, police searched the couple's BMW sedan and BMW SUV. They also removed a Louis Vuitton purse from one vehicle.



So they did get to search the cars! Interesting! Who leaves a Louis Vuitton purse in the car?! By the way it sounds, he stood to lose a LOT of money if she divorced him.

looks like the house (if I have the right Address) is worth $346,500

[SeriouslySearching]

I think after the party, something happened on his part where he was jealous and lost his temper. I don't think it was pre-meditated. I would say that he probably left the kids asleep and took care of the situation by dumping her where she was found. He returned home, cleaned up, and probably stayed up until the kids woke up. He acted like everything was normal and had already devised a plan people would believe (the jogging story). He thought he was in the clear until the friend called and hurried up his plan. He will have to stick to this story from now on since he is locked into it or they will have him on a silver platter.

[SeriouslySearching]

looks like the house (if I have the right Address) is worth $346,500Well...there are 346,500 motives.

[Blink34]

The problem is...they don't think about the consequences of getting caught. These are narcissistic men who believe they can get away with anything. They do not see themselves behind bars until they are there...then they can't believe a jury would convict them! They are shocked when the verdict comes back each and every time.
True, but with narcissim comes "signs" or narcisstic behavior which can be avoided. I have yet to see a case like this, that admittedly is in retrospect, that someone does not say " Well, I guess, maybe, sort of, I knew he was capable of this after he ......"
Burns me, makes me sad for the fam and babies, I think of her fear as a Mom. I would fight and scrap till my last breathe to not leave my children with a monster (luckily I dont have one) or at all, she did not deserve this, nor did her babies- it sticks for me these cases, unfortunately.

[Blink34]

I think after the party, something happened on his part where he was jealous and lost his temper. I don't think it was pre-meditated. I would say that he probably left the kids asleep and took care of the situation by dumping her where she was found. He returned home, cleaned up, and probably stayed up until the kids woke up. He acted like everything was normal and had already devised a plan people would believe (the jogging story). He thought he was in the clear until the friend called and hurried up his plan. He will have to stick to this story from now on since he is locked into it or they will have him on a silver platter.

Agreed, accidental, but by a smart guy, maybe. He will be lawyered up by press tomorrow is my prediction.

[Celt]

Well...there are 346,500 motives.

Just not worth it is it!? can never understand what people who kill think.. that losing any amount of money is worth jail for the rest of your life and of course those poor girls..
I do think you are right that she went to the party and he lost it...Jealous?...

[Blink34]

She had to know he was capable of this. In her gut, she had to know. I don't think she expected it when it happened tho. I think she was caught offguard. For some reason, I don't think she probably had time to fear or to fight him. Bless her heart.

I just hope her children didn't either hear it or have to witness it. :( What a POS to do this to the mother of his children and his children!!! GRRRRR!

I wouldn't really say it was accidental. I think he did it quite on purpose, but not planned.
I cant disagree- but I also think if you dont posess the ability to cross the line yourself, it is hard to see it in others. That being said, I dont think their is a case out there where at least one person does not say they suspected it or saw it coming..

[Busylady]

This may have already been posted, if so sorry for the duplicate.

http://nancycooper.blogspot.com/

[Celt]

Thank You busylady :) sounds like she has Great friends.

[SeriouslySearching]

It certainly does, Celt.

[SuziQ]

I'm wondering if an innocent person whose wife and the mother of his children has just disappeared, who is suddenly being interviewed by LE and has the national media swooping down on them is not allowed to be "nervous". I really don't think any of us could possibly predict or even imagine what our voice might sound like or our reaction might be if we were walking a mile in the same shoes.


Yeah, but that's not the way it works for obvious reasons. Too many cases back this up.

[SuziQ]

Carrie is someone the husband made up. What a loser:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/wake/story/1141867.html

(snips)
When Cooper didn't show up, Adam called Brad Cooper. She said he told her that his wife had gone for a run with a friend, but he wasn't sure which friend. Adam said he later called to say he thought the friend was someone named Carrie and wanted to know whether Adam knew how to contact Carrie.

Adam knew someone by that name but said she didn't know the woman's last name and did not have her phone number. Cooper said he was going to continue looking for Carrie's phone number and hung up, Adam said. Adam said she felt that something had gone wrong and called police.

[MoonFlwr]

Fox video-Where is Nancy Cooper?

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2297099&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b 0c12f2749

What gorgeous children! ......:(

[chicoliving]

I'm so sorry this seems to have ended in this direction. sigh

[LaLaw2000]

When I read in the article that LE had found a Louis Vuitton purse in one of the cars, a red flag went up. I do not think a woman would leave her purse in the car at all. Also, with the purse being an expensive one, you would tend to take care of it.
I am going to be interested in hearing what Nancy was wearing to the party - are they the same clothes she was found in?
Who babysat the little ones that night? Did Nancy come back in the house? Did she drive the babysitter home? These are questions I would like to hear answers to.
I think Nancy was killed on Friday night, or maybe she started her run on Saturday morning and the husband followed her and killed her. She probably has a huge life insurance policy.
When someone acts like this husband did, I suspect him. I hope this is not another Lisa Stebic case.
My sympathy is with the children, Nancy's family, and her friends.

[momto3kids]

I have a strong feeling her husband Brad has something to do with this. The police are in possession of a video with Brad early Saturday morning at a local store. He told the police he went to get milk and bread at 6am. The video has Brad buying detergent with bleach and/or bleach actually purchased at 4am. redacted statement I feel this is a cruical piece of evidence indicating something had occured. As I searched with my children yesterday in the construction areas along Kildaire Farm Rd and in the Bluffs Nature park in the pouring rain, I kept hope to hear her yell out for help that the rain would stimulate her.

[MoonFlwr]

I have a strong feeling her husband Brad has something to do with this. The police are in possession of a video with Brad early Saturday morning at a local store. He told the police he went to get milk and bread at 6am. The video has Brad buying detergent with bleach and/or bleach actually purchased at 4am. Redacted statement I feel this is a cruical piece of evidence indicating something had occured. As I searched with my children yesterday in the construction areas along Kildaire Farm Rd and in the Bluffs Nature park in the pouring rain, I kept hope to hear her yell out for help that the rain would stimulate her.

Woah! (About the store story!)

Welcome to WebSleuths btw! :)

Oh my! What a feeling....looking for Nancy when you knew about the bleach thing.

How kind of you to be helping search for her!

[momto3kids]

I am almost certain a tv station has a traffic camera at the intersection of Cary Pkwy and Holly Springs Rd. If the cameras run continuous and most likely the route taken, it could put a time, vehicle, passengers etc to be specific and answer some questions.

[Just the Fax]

I have a strong feeling her husband Brad has something to do with this. The police are in possession of a video with Brad early Saturday morning at a local store. He told the police he went to get milk and bread at 6am. The video has Brad buying detergent with bleach and/or bleach actually purchased at 4am. Redacted statement I feel this is a cruical piece of evidence indicating something had occured. As I searched with my children yesterday in the construction areas along Kildaire Farm Rd and in the Bluffs Nature park in the pouring rain, I kept hope to hear her yell out for help that the rain would stimulate her.

Interesting. How would you know what he told the cops ?

[Just the Fax]

Assuming she was killed after midnight Friday, she was dead nearly 3 days before the autopsy this am. With the hot sun on Saturday and Sunday, I hope decomposition will not mask the cause of death.....likely suffocation or strangulation, imo.

[Pepper]

If he dressed her in jogging clothes after he killed her, maybe he made a mistake like tying her shoes backwards.

[momto3kids]

I know assuming is wrong. But....my understanding is the police asked to view the video of a specific time and purchase by Brad. Who else would have known he was at this particular store and have reason to lie about the time and purchase made except the husband? This is why I am assuming he was the one who told he had left home early in the morning. I still think a video at the traffic light will answer the time frame all this took place since the car would have to stop to enter Holly Springs Road. That all is IF this is Nancy. I am still praying it is not.

[BrowneyedEmily]

Gosh, everything seems to point to the husband. What a horrible situation. What is it with husbands here thinking they can get away with this stuff?

[Just the Fax]

I know assuming is wrong. But....my understanding is the police asked to view the video of a specific time and purchase by Brad. Who else would have known he was at this particular store and have reason to lie about the time and purchase made except the husband? This is why I am assuming he was the one who told he had left home early in the morning. I still think a video at the traffic light will answer the time frame all this took place since the car would have to stop to enter Holly Springs Road. That all is IF this is Nancy. I am still praying it is not.

If he is on video at 4 am, look for a swift arrest after the autopsy.

[BrowneyedEmily]

If he is on video at 4 am, look for a swift arrest after the autopsy.

I agree. Luckily it looks like he made enough mistakes.

[luckyme]

bleach at 4:00 am is not good! :eek:

[Wolfpack Fan]

Fox News just reported that a press conference is going on right now. In a few minutes, they're going to give an update and also talk to her best friend.

[TGIRecovered]

Wow, momto3kids, you sure know how to make a good entrance! If your info is accurate, it truly is a bombshell that will sink this murdering husband's ship.

Welcome to Websleuths! I hope you'll stick around and keep us posted!

Susan

[BrowneyedEmily]

Fox News just reported that a press conference is going on right now. In a few minutes, they're going to give an update and also talk to her best friend.

Are you able to give us an overview? Stupid work...

[momto3kids]

I guess when I heard the search shifted yesterday afternoon to Lake Wheeler and Johnson Lake it became apparent the police were looking for more. These are two lakes Nancy would need to drive to since the roads are not safe to jog along, and neither lake has a jogging trail around them. Now I wonder what the police know and why they shifted the search to the water areas.

redacted statement Thank You to the welcomes I have recieved. I found this board very informative and wanted to join in hopes we will have a positive outcome.

[luckyme]

I guess when I heard the search shifted yesterday afternoon to Lake Wheeler and Johnson Lake it became apparent the police were looking for more. These are two lakes Nancy would need to drive to since the roads are not safe to jog along, and neither lake has a jogging trail around them. Now I wonder what the police know and why they shifted the search to the water areas.

Well if hubby was on video buying bleach and not milk or bread then i would say they might suspect the husband. :confused:

[Wolfpack Fan]

The body hasn't been identified yet. They're hoping that will be done sometime this morning. They showed her husband thanking the volunteers yesterday. The best friend's name is Clea Morwick. She said that Nancy jogged with a partner a lot but that it wasn't unusual for her to go alone. She said that she knew Carrie, the friend Brad said that she was supposed to be jogging with. Carrie said that they hadn't planned to jog together that day. Megan Kelly asked about marital problems. Clea said that Nancy wouldn't run off on her own--that she would never leave for any reason. She said there was no reason to believe Brad would do anything and that he had been out there as much as anyone else. Nancy wouldn't have taken off for some down time. She always showed up when she said she would. There was no way that she would have gone off to meet someone. The night before she went missing. she mentioned that she was going jogging the next morning. Clea said that she has to be strong for Nancy's family. She's hoping that the body they found isn't Nancy.

[PrayersForMaura]

At a news conference this morning, Cary police said they were not ready to discuss the identity. Nancy Cooper's parents, Donna and Garry Rentz of Edmonton, Alberta, and her identical twin sister, Khrista Lister, of Toronto were expected to attend the news conference.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1142058.html

[BrowneyedEmily]

Thanks you guys.

It definitely doesn't look good....

[PrayersForMaura]

The body was sent to the state medical examiner in Chapel Hill. As of 9 a.m. Tuesday, officials were not able to conclude if it was Nancy Cooper, whose husband reported that she went running Saturday morning and never returned.
The examiner will rely upon medical reports to try to identify the body.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3207944/

[Just the Fax]

The body was sent to the state medical examiner in Chapel Hill. As of 9 a.m. Tuesday, officials were not able to conclude if it was Nancy Cooper, whose husband reported that she went running Saturday morning and never returned.
The examiner will rely upon medical reports to try to identify the body.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3207944/

After 3 days (2 in hot sun), the body will be badly decomposed.
Dental records will answer the question for sure this am

[Wolfpack Fan]

The police called this a suspicious death and a homicide, but they have no suspect yet. They stated that the public has no reason to be afraid. The body was found on the banks of a storm-water pond on Britt-Aggie Court (This might be spelled wrong.) within a 5-mile radius of her home. It wasn't near a trail. It was near the area where they were searching, but the reporter didn't know if anyone had searched that specific area. Her husband has been cooperative.

[Wolfpack Fan]

They mentioned that this was an isolated case. I think they already suspect that the husband is the murderer.

[Just the Fax]

The police called this a suspicious death and a homicide, but they have no suspect yet. They stated that the public has no reason to be afraid. The body was found on the banks of a storm-water pond on Britt-Aggie Court (This might be spelled wrong.) within a 5-mile radius of her home. It wasn't near a trail. It was near the area where they were searching, but the reporter didn't know if anyone had searched that specific area. Her husband has been cooperative.


They are not 'naming' a suspect yet
They found the body off a new cut road near Holly Springs rd (busy road)1 1/2 miles from the house.....obviously driven there

I bet we hear of an arrest at the 5pm news conference

[momto3kids]

Doesn't the statement the public has no reason to be afraid is indicating they know who the person is and who most likely did it? Otherwise I would think they would increase our awareness for anyone or anything suspicious in the area. There are hundreds of homes on the other side of Holly Springs Road.

[calidreamin]

They are not 'naming' a suspect yet
They found the body off a new cut road near Holly Springs rd (busy road)1 1/2 miles from the house.....obviously driven there

I bet we hear of an arrest at the 5pm news conferenceI think you are right about an arrest and it sounds like it will be the husband.:mad: What a horrible thing for her 2 little girls, now they wont have any parents.:mad::furious:

[luckyme]

Doesn't the statement the public has no reason to be afraid is indicating they know who the person is and who most likely did it? Otherwise I would think they would increase our awareness for anyone or anything suspicious in the area. There are hundreds of homes on the other side of Holly Springs Road.

I beleive if she was attacked while jogging, they would have to warn residents. Its very telling.

[Blink34]

I have a strong feeling her husband Brad has something to do with this. The police are in possession of a video with Brad early Saturday morning at a local store. He told the police he went to get milk and bread at 6am. The video has Brad buying detergent with bleach and/or bleach actually purchased at 4am. Redacted statement I feel this is a cruical piece of evidence indicating something had occured. As I searched with my children yesterday in the construction areas along Kildaire Farm Rd and in the Bluffs Nature park in the pouring rain, I kept hope to hear her yell out for help that the rain would stimulate her.

Well hopefully that will allow this scumbag to be charged with reckless endangerment for leaving a 4 year old and 2 year old home alone while he went to seek the means to mop up their Mom's DNA- makes me sick.
That video tells me this creep killed her accidentally Friday evening, probably during an argument after the dinner/cocktail party.

Bless you for volunteering to search for her with your children, I dont know how old they are but I have taught mine that things like this do happen; Im sorry for you and the other volunteers/family on here it turned out this way.

[Blink34]

I think you are right about an arrest and it sounds like it will be the husband.:mad: What a horrible thing for her 2 little girls, now they wont have any parents.:mad::furious:

I don't think they will arrest him without a confession until the ME has completed at least the first part of the autopsy and the evidence collected ties him directly. I do think they will name him as their primary suspect, he'll lawyer up if he has not already, and arrest him when they are able given the evidence. They have been very cautious so far to protect a successful prosecution. However, if those babies are still with him, I guarantee he is under tight surveillance. People faced with nothing else to live for do horrific things.

I SINCERELY hope that they are discussing the fact that he needs to turn the children over to Nancy's parents immediately, based on him leaving them alone when he said he was with them would be enough; I'm concerned for their safety in his care.

[fran]

I can't b