Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #2

[SeriouslySearching]

Lalaw~ The house alone is worth $346,500.00. I would say money could be a huge motive in not want her to have what he considers "his property". The reporter did say that friends mentioned he refused to leave the house and move out. He doesn't appear to be a man who likes to lose...anything.

[philamena]

While it could have to do with the investigation, it may be something used by the construction company instead. Something to do with the retention pond itself or the pumping system. Or I could be blowing smoke and have no clue. LOL

Hey, I was buying it. ;) :blowkiss:
I watched the news videos of today's press conference and of Brad giving a statement Monday. He is soooo like S. Peterson.

One comment bothered me. Tonight the News 14 reporter said that the 2 children are with their father and no one knows where they are.:confused:
Surely LE isn't going to let Brad keep the children. Then again LE allowed Jason Young to keep his daughter.:furious:

[LaLaw2000]

He sure has that "Bobby Cutts, Jr." look going on, doesn't he?! :waitasec:

Thanks, SS! I needed a laugh. You are exactly right now that I think about it.

[Fairy1]

right....from what i understand, the party was in the neighborhood...i don't know if it's been reported or not, but i'm leaning toward Nancy actually walking to the party.....i still don't understand why she'd leave her purse in the car though, OR why HE would put it there either:confused:

Agreed. I have a friend who left her foo-foo purse in her car in her garage awhile back. She forgot to close her garage door that night and her car and purse were stolen! Don't know if that's what happened here, but you can see how it COULD happen!

[philamena]

He sure has that "Bobby Cutts, Jr." look going on, doesn't he?! :waitasec:


OMG that's it!:eek::eek:
Let's not forget the SP baseball hat.

[RoughlyCollie]

Unfortunately, every time I give the husband the benefit of the doubt, he turns out to be the killer.





I really tried to give him the benefit of the doubt in the beginning, but his very own actions give him away, IMO. The biggest is not showing up at Tuesday's press conference. Although I'm sure he didn't go because he was devastated. :rolleyes:

[SeriouslySearching]

I would have just called him "COB", but the newbies would feel left out!! Nevermind...now I still have to explain! Someone (JDB) typed cob instead of cop talking about Bobby C. JR. and it stuck! We call every lowlife scumbag that murders his pregnant wife a cob now.

Yes, SP, DP, CS, BC...they have all sported that baseball cap with the "Ihavebeenupworriedsickaboutmywifeandhaven'tsleptor shaved" look!

[philamena]

Lalaw~ The house alone is worth $346,500.00. I would say money could be a huge motive in not want her to have what he considers "his property". The reporter did say that friends mentioned he refused to leave the house and move out. He doesn't appear to be a man who likes to lose...anything.


Isn't NC a community state?
Meaning what's thine is mine?
If so Brad probably didn't want to leave for another reason--if he left before seperation papers were signed, Nancy could have charged him with abandonment.

Then again maybe he's moneyhungrysob and wanted it all.

[RoughlyCollie]

I think no one in the media knows where Brad is. The police may have him stashed somewhere, but wherever he is, I bet the cops are either with him or watching him.

Hey, I was buying it. ;) :blowkiss:
One comment bothered me. Tonight the News 14 reporter said that the 2 children are with their father and no one knows where they are.:confused:
Surely LE isn't going to let Brad keep the children. Then again LE allowed Jason Young to keep his daughter.:furious:

[LaLaw2000]

Lalaw~ The house alone is worth $346,500.00. I would say money could be a huge motive in not want her to have what he considers "his property". The reporter did say that friends mentioned he refused to leave the house and move out. He doesn't appear to be a man who likes to lose...anything.

To me, he seems to have that aura of 'entitlement'. He would feel HE worked for the house, HE worked and she stayed home with the children, it was HIS money, etc.
War of the Roses mentality going on here? Not with Nancy, of course. She was a good mother and very wholesome. We will probably find that she had many more friends than he did. She was so outgoing and even helpful to her friends (painting and so forth). I think he was probably jealous of her.

Nancy stuck with Brad through a lot of his 'schooling'. He just got that last degree in Jan., 2008. Was she of no more use to him? I just feel he also had something going on outside of home, IMO.

I hope we wake tomorrow to find this POS arrested if he did this to her. (and I think he did)

[Carrington]

He could be across the border into Canada by now.
IMO

[SeriouslySearching]

LE isn't hiding him, I promise! They don't want to foot the bill until the taxpayers have to! I would guess he went to a hotel with the children and yes...he has "armed guards" with them for their "safety". After all...it is a public service they are affording the families now. (How very kind and thoughtful they are!!)

[Taximom]

I want to know where HIS family is! I hope they aren't like the Entwistles or Petersons. :eek:

[LaLaw2000]

I want to know where HIS family is! I hope they aren't like the Entwistles or Petersons. :eek:

:eek:
I just bet they are! And probably think he can do no wrong.

[SeriouslySearching]

They are probably still in Canada proclaiming his innocence. I would expect them to be here tomorrow or so to support him. They surely have to be keeping abreast of the situation and see it leaning towards him.

[Carrington]

I want to know where HIS family is! I hope they aren't like the Entwistles or Petersons. :eek:

Could be, very well could be.

[Blink34]

I don't know, Blink. I've got quite a few for different purposes. Are you saying that because he's a guy? Just wondering!

momto3, can you give us the location/address of the store? I'd like to know so we can check how much time would be needed for various trips made by BC. (Which we still have to figure out, basically.) Thank you!

No, just not sure why he would participate in so many sites extolling his accomplishments/education and almost zero family data, almost like he wants to be "noticed" - could be me, I'm a security fanatic, but as a woman, I do think it is more important. My Nikeplus running site is set to private; Maybe I am overthinking

[philamena]

I think no one in the media knows where Brad is. The police may have him stashed somewhere, but wherever he is, I bet the cops are either with him or watching him.


I hope you're right RoughlyCollie. :)

[Taximom]

The info at Veromi.net threw me off initially in this case. They show a Bradley C. Cooper with the age of 38 yrs. Possible relation: Nancy

I'm not sure what search engines are available for Canadian citizens. Anyone?

[SeriouslySearching]

No, just not sure why he would participate in so many sites extolling his accomplishments/education and almost zero family data, almost like he wants to be "noticed" - could be me, I'm a security fanatic, but as a woman, I do think it is more important. My Nikeplus running site is set to private; Maybe I am overthinking

I don't find it odd he had that many sites. He probably was given many of the addresses by buddies who shared his interest in cycling, hiking, running, etc. when he was going across the country doing his sport. Plus...since he was from outside the country, he may want to allow his friends and family keep up with his MANY accomplishments. If you hadn't noticed...he liked to brag about everything except his wife and daughters!I just explained it, Blink! (Yes, you are security conscious and maybe overthinking. :blowkiss:)

[kellis06]

Am I wrong or is it odd for someone to have this many online "sites"-
Well as a husband and father of 2 myself, I can not see how he had time for work and the time to keep up all the online sites, not to mention all the time spent for education and still spend any quality time with wife and kids. IMO, this may have been the start of the marital issues.

[SeriouslySearching]

I think IT people have time to get online while working a lot. His classes probably did take up a lot of his time tho. There is much work to do for a MBA. Still, it didn't slow down his training and his sports. He even mentioned swimming late at night when training.

When DID he find time to spend doing family things?

[maconrich]

Isn't NC a community state?
Meaning what's thine is mine?
If so Brad probably didn't want to leave for another reason--if he left before seperation papers were signed, Nancy could have charged him with abandonment.

Then again maybe he's moneyhungrysob and wanted it all.


Yes it is. The only funky thing about getting a divorce seems to be that you have to prove a one year separation first (if I understand it right that is).
I don't see the blogging as uncommon since he is in the computer tech field (going under the idea that techies tend to use computers during their off-time).
As for CISCO, while their stock's been down a bit, other places are doing much worse. Still I'd gather there might be some stress regarding the economy and financial security, especially living in an area where the median house price in the general area is $220,000 - and pictures of their house indicate it probably is valued much higher. So I CAN see the computer use and athletic activities as normal outlets/hobbies and possibly a lifestyle that could be stressful. BUT, even if true, this absolutely does NOT excuse violence or ANYONE choosing violence over divorce!!! (If he's guilty that is - and right now he's not looking very innocent, imo)
It's been a very, very sad couple of days here in NC and my thoughts and prayers go out to Nancy's children, family and loved ones --and to Holley Lynn Wimunc's, too...

[MoonFlwr]

This is probably just wishful thinking, but is there any way that (for once) the husband didn't do it?

I'm getting so sick at heart over all these cases of perfectly nice women being killed by their husbands. The police chief said that it wasn't a random killing, so that the killer targeted Nancy in particular, right? And who would do that except for her husband or a friend/acquaintance?

RC

I keep hoping there is a chance that it wasn't him, too.

I was trying to envision how it could've been someone else. Nancy ended up in an area that was too far for her to have run, to, right?
Normally when she went far away to run, she would take the car.

So, if Brad didn't do it.....what would've had to happen, for her body to get there? Somebody would've had to grab her from where she was jogging....
Do you think LE sometimes say things such as 'it wasn't a random killing', to calm community members?

Just thinking how the scenario could fit, if it wasn't Brad.

[MoonFlwr]

He sure has that "Bobby Cutts, Jr." look going on, doesn't he?! :waitasec:

When Jessie went missing and everyone was searching for her, including Bobby Cutts, I was SO hoping it wasn't him. Even Jessie's mom said that to the media. :(

(So, yes, yet another example of a case where people hoped that it wasn't him!)

[SeriouslySearching]

I always thought it was Bobby. I also think Brad did this to his wife. I can't figure another scenario because it wouldn't fit with what we know already.

No one saw her on Saturday morning. No one. If even one person saw her in her jogging shorts and shoes, it would leave room for another scenario. Without such a sighting, it goes back to Brad.

[calgary123]

I'm a long-time lurker here, ever since the Scott Peterson days. I was fascinated with that case, because I couldn't understand how someone could do something so horrific to their own pregnant wife. I actually thought he didn't do it, and didn't change my mind until during or after the trial.

If I say anything I'm not supposed to here, my apologies. Let me also add that I'm no expert, am only giving my personal opinion, and that I could be flat wrong in every opinion I'm about to give.

Now this is a little crazy and too close to home, because I used to share a place with Brad Cooper. So I thought I'd log in and share my knowledge with a board that has given me a lot of knowledge over the years.

Its pretty amazing how well some of the posters have pegged his personality based on his online websites. In my opinion, he is the most narcissistic person I have ever known. He is also very driven, and has a high level of self confidence.

It is hard to explain, but he can be very social but also very withdrawn. He avoids outward conflict and will let his thoughts stew for a long time before you even would know he had an issue with something-- something I learned being his roommate. He would often be very quiet but in his early 20's had a hard-partying edge that would come out once and a while, where suddenly he was the life of the party.

He's always liked cars... I laughed when I heard he had 2 BMW's on the driveway, that sounds just like him. He wouldn't buy something unless it had a certain appeal factor. He wants to be the picture of success, to his peers and to women.

He's often a very nice guy, but I always had a deep mistrust of him. He was not someone who I would say would "do anything for a friend", whereas most people I know and hang out with are like that.

If one assumes that he did it (and I won't profess to know because the media also aren't to be trusted in my experience) it would be very much like him to want to seem cooperative etc., and do things like agreeing to attend a press conference, and then withdrawing at the last minute. He would be too afraid to have the confrontation of telling someone up front he wasn't going to attend-- he would rather lie about attending, and then just not show up, thereby avoiding the 'confrontation', at least in the short term.

I know two of his ex-girlfriends fairly well... they had much more of an insight into his dark side and each of them had shared some of that with some of his friends post-breakup. Its been so long now that I can't really remember what they had told me, and since he's not someone who has any impact or influence on my life, I had forgotten about him entirely.

Anyway, I think its quite possible he did it. This is not a situation where its someone who you think could never do such a thing. I've spoken to people who knew him better than I did this evening (everyone was phoning everyone, this is huge news), and his closest/oldest friends seem to be surprised, but also won't say "he would never do that". Others think he is absolutely capable of it.

If he didn't do it, I really feel sorry for him. Regardless, its her family who we should be concerned about. Those two girls have been deprived of their mother, and her parents and siblings deprived of a daughter and sister.

[MoonFlwr]

Woah! Welcome, calgary! :wave:

I am SO glad you decided to register/log on!

I nearly fell off my chair when you said you used to be Brad's roommate!
Wow! Thanks for the background information on your experience with him.

I am sure there must be lots of note-swopping between people who know/knew him!
Interesting that some people say they can absolutely see him doing this! :eek:

[kellis06]

It is hard to explain, but he can be very social but also very withdrawn. He avoids outward conflict and will let his thoughts stew for a long time before you even would know he had an issue with something-- something I learned being his roommate. He would often be very quiet but in his early 20's had a hard-partying edge that would come out once and a while, where suddenly he was the life of the party.

Sounds like the first signs of someone with bipolar disease to me. Just my opinion!

[SeriouslySearching]

Welcome to WS officially, Calgary! I am glad you came out of lurkdom to share this with us! It does help to know information from people who have had contact with him and to be able to figure out what he is really like. Glad to know we what we were seeing and putting together appears to be correct.

We often see this type of individual as the perp in such situations. The narcissism seems to stand out. If it is the common thread between these men, I don't know exactly...but I am beginning to see it that way. They appear to either be always striving to be the best or they want to pretend they already are. They also have to make certain their self-image matches what they want others to see so they continually feed their ego. It explains the BMWs in the driveway as you mentioned.

Speaking of the former girlfriends, do you recall any of them saying he was controlling or jealous? Did he cheat on them? This would strike me to be par for the course with him.

Was he a perfectionist?

I think it is very interesting what you said about this:

Calgary123 said: If one assumes that he did it (and I won't profess to know because the media also aren't to be trusted in my experience) it would be very much like him to want to seem cooperative etc., and do things like agreeing to attend a press conference, and then withdrawing at the last minute. He would be too afraid to have the confrontation of telling someone up front he wasn't going to attend-- he would rather lie about attending, and then just not show up, thereby avoiding the 'confrontation', at least in the short term.


It makes perfect sense! Avoiding the confrontation is exactly what he did by calling and saying he would be there. Changing his mind at the last minute on going to today's presser, too. He has to know that the world is watching his every move. If he craved attention...he has it now!

[calgary123]

Speaking of the former girlfriends or women he dated, do you recall any of them saying he was controlling or jealous? Did he cheat on them? This would strike me to be par for the course with him.

Was he a perfectionist?

I think it is very interesting what you said about this:

I can't recall anything about jealousy. In terms of controlling, that may fit but more in a passive-aggressive way. His style was not direct confrontation. He would never tell someone he didn't approve of something, but instead would have a tendency to withdraw, pout, or get back indirectly, but do it such that you'd know he was doing it with a purpose.

Perfectionist? Sure, that would describe him very well. He was into fitness at the time, but not marathons or ironmen competitions... I think it speaks for itself that he progressed to that level.

I'm going to get the goods that will bring old memories back over the next few days when I talk to people who were more heavily involved with him than me, and if there's something very telling and which isn't private, I'll share it. I don't want to expose people who don't want their stories told. Sometimes you can tell a story and those close to the group will know exactly who you are talking about... and its not my place to share secrets. I have nothing to hide from Brad, and I'll tell my stories, but I won't tell someone else's unless its appropriate to do so. You can all judge that hearsay for yourselves.

And lets remember, he might be a victim here. Time will tell.

[calgary123]

Let me add one thing before I stop posting for the night:

If he did it, I would expect the motive to be based on money. I would not expect that he was afraid of losing his wife to another man as much as he would not want to face the economic consequences.

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm going to get the goods that will bring old memories back over the next few days when I talk to people who were more heavily involved with him than me, and if there's something very telling and which isn't private, I'll share it. I don't want to expose people who don't want their stories told. Sometimes you can tell a story and those close to the group will know exactly who you are talking about... and its not my place to share secrets. I have nothing to hide from Brad, and I'll tell my stories, but I won't tell someone else's unless its appropriate to do so. You can all judge that hearsay for yourselves.

And lets remember, he might be a victim here. Time will tell.I understand exactly what you are saying and respect you for keeping in mind others' private situations concerning Brad. We will look forward to hearing anything you remember personally.

Yes, he might be a victim. He also might have murdered his wife and taken away two innocent children's mother. I believe it is not going to take them long to determine which way this hammer will fall. (My personal belief is there is no other way for it to fit together. If no one saw her on Sat. am...it goes back to Brad.)

[SeriouslySearching]

Let me add one thing before I stop posting for the night:

If he did it, I would expect the motive to be based on money. I would not expect that he was afraid of losing his wife to another man as much as he would not want to face the economic consequences.I would totally agree with you. He has at least 346,500 reasons of motive in the house alone.

[SeriouslySearching]

I am glad mentioned Passive/Aggressive behavior because it is what I was getting from your comments. You also said he "stewed on things". It makes me wonder if she didn't get him into a confrontation he did not want to be in and his reaction was to explode if only to make her stop. How would he react if he were backed into a literal corner?

[Celt]

I want to know where HIS family is! I hope they aren't like the Entwistles or Petersons. :eek:

Just found this:
Brad is the son of Medicine Hat College academic vice-president Terry Cooper. A source from Terry Cooper’s office confirmed that Terry is currently out of the country. Brad also has a brother, Grant Cooper, who still lives in Medicine Hat. Grant’s wife Joy told the News Tuesday night that Grant was on his way to North Carolina to be with the family.

“He’s a little distracted — he’s just trying to figure out which end is up,” Joy said of her husband. “He only just found out she (Nancy) was missing.”

http://www.medicinehatnews.com/content/view/35911/65/

[Celt]

If this has been posted please let me know/delete ty:)
"Nancy Cooper had taken a break a few weeks ago, joining her Canadian family for a vacation in Hilton Head. She returned last week, and friends noticed she hadn't felt well.

A spreading silence

Tuesday, after police confirmed she'd been killed, Cooper's friends grew silent, reluctant to speculate.

"At this point we do not want to jeopardize the investigation in any way, nor do we want the hurtful images and stories to be propagated in a way that exacerbates an already incredibly difficult situation for those of us who were so close to Nancy," Morwick said in a statement
they know something... More than something... IMO

http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/1143035.html

[Just the Fax]

I'm pretty sure they are both 34 yrs, panthera.

Wake County NC now has 2, 34 year old NC State grads that murdered their beautiful wives.

[Just the Fax]

"Police say the woman's death was not random."

Translation : The victim knew her killer.

[LaLaw2000]

If this has been posted please let me know/delete ty:)
"Nancy Cooper had taken a break a few weeks ago, joining her Canadian family for a vacation in Hilton Head. She returned last week, and friends noticed she hadn't felt well.

A spreading silence

Tuesday, after police confirmed she'd been killed, Cooper's friends grew silent, reluctant to speculate.

"At this point we do not want to jeopardize the investigation in any way, nor do we want the hurtful images and stories to be propagated in a way that exacerbates an already incredibly difficult situation for those of us who were so close to Nancy," Morwick said in a statement
they know something... More than something... IMO

http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/1143035.html

Thanks for the link, Celt. The pic of Nancy's mother and sister is just heartbreaking.

Maybe we will hear of an arrest today.............

[LaLaw2000]

"Police say the woman's death was not random."

Translation : The victim knew her killer.

Most murder victims do usually know their killer, don't they? LE already suspected that Brad had done this because of that statement.

I am thinking that Nancy may have been strangled or suffocated, and no signs of rape or sexual abuse. IMO, that would point toward the husband.

My sympathy to the family and children of Nancy. :rose:

[MoonFlwr]

At the end of the last press conference, the Chief of Police (Pat Bazemore) said she would hold another press conference Wednesday morning at 9 am with any new details. That is an hour and 20 minutes from NOW...

Oh it is referred to in this article...

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3207944/

[Taximom]

Welcome, calgary123! I wish he had never married and that Nancy was just an ex-girlfriend.

[Taximom]

If this has been posted please let me know/delete ty:)
"Nancy Cooper had taken a break a few weeks ago, joining her Canadian family for a vacation in Hilton Head. She returned last week, and friends noticed she hadn't felt well.

A spreading silence

Tuesday, after police confirmed she'd been killed, Cooper's friends grew silent, reluctant to speculate.

"At this point we do not want to jeopardize the investigation in any way, nor do we want the hurtful images and stories to be propagated in a way that exacerbates an already incredibly difficult situation for those of us who were so close to Nancy," Morwick said in a statement
they know something... More than something... IMO

http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/1143035.html

Silence IS golden. It speaks louder than words.

[Taximom]

Let me add one thing before I stop posting for the night:

If he did it, I would expect the motive to be based on money. I would not expect that he was afraid of losing his wife to another man as much as he would not want to face the economic consequences.

I totally agree with you, calgary123. I think the love left that marriage quite a while ago, at least on his side.

[Taximom]

At the end of the last press conference, the Chief of Police (Pat Bazemore) said she would hold another press conference Wednesday morning at 9 am with any new details. That is an hour and 20 minutes from NOW...

Oh it is referred to in this article...

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3207944/

We've seen this happen before where they will announce a future pc, only to delay it because there really isn't any new information. I was really surprised she said there would be one that soon after the last one. It would be nice to hear of an arrest, but it might be delayed till they have more to report.

I prayed all last night that Brad was being good to the children and if he did this that he'd just turn himself in and get it overwith.

He's under a tremendous amount of stress right now, guilty or not, and taking care of two little girls 4 and 2...is not an easy job in the first place.

[calidreamin]

It will be interesting to see what is said at the 9:00 press confrence, hopefully there has been an arrest.

[LaLaw2000]

I am looking forward to the PC. I am feeling that LE will announce a COD AND a POI. I am in Louisiana and may not get to hear the PC. I am hoping someone will post what is said. Thanks!

[luckyme]

in the picture of brad walking out of the house with the baby seat he still has on longsleeves! Its in the news observer. :confused:

[Taximom]

luckyme, here's the link for that page with the slideshow:
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1143035.html
Click on "more photos" underneath the picture of Nancy's mom.

[Taximom]

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/taximomws/cooperlongsleeves.jpg

[MoonFlwr]

Posted 23 minutes ago...

http://www.wral.com/

about press conference.

[calidreamin]

Posted 23 minutes ago...

http://www.wral.com/

about press conference.

Thank you for the info MoonFlwr I will be watching.

[LaLaw2000]

http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh293/taximomws/cooperlongsleeves.jpg

Thank you for that pic, Taximom. I had read the article, but not seen that pic.

[pamlet]

I don't find it odd he had that many sites. He probably was given many of the addresses by buddies who shared his interest in cycling, hiking, running, etc. when he was going across the country doing his sport. Plus...since he was from outside the country, he may want to allow his friends and family keep up with his MANY accomplishments. If you hadn't noticed...he liked to brag about everything except his wife and daughters!

I guess I missed some sites... ? I thought there were only two - Classmates and the fitness blog thingy.... were there others?

[Taximom]

Link to PC story in case they move it off the front page:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3214017/

Someone take notes for those of us who can't be here to watch and listen! Hopefully it will be archived on their site, but you never know. Thanks! (Hi Cali!)

[wufdude]

Certainly not the way I want my beloved alma mater thought of....

Being that Cooper only got an MBA here, I won't claim him though....:)

Wake County NC now has 2, 34 year old NC State grads that murdered their beautiful wives.

[calidreamin]

Link to PC story in case they move it off the front page:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3214017/

Someone take notes for those of us who can't be here to watch and listen! Hopefully it will be archived on their site, but you never know. Thanks! (Hi Cali!)

I will take notes TM:blowkiss:.

[oceanblueeyes]

Most murder victims do usually know their killer, don't they? LE already suspected that Brad had done this because of that statement.

I am thinking that Nancy may have been strangled or suffocated, and no signs of rape or sexual abuse. IMO, that would point toward the husband.

My sympathy to the family and children of Nancy. :rose:

From the last stats I read and from watching Nancy Grace's show it seems out of all female homicides each year about 30% of them are done by someone close to them, such as spouse/lover or ex-spouse.

But I am afraid this time it is one of those cases, unfortunately.

I would think strangulation too but that doesn't ring true with needing bleach, so maybe bludgeoning of some sort.

imoo

[luckyme]

From the last stats I read and from watching Nancy Grace's show it seems out of all female homicides each year about 30% of them are done by someone close to them, such as spouse/lover or ex-spouse.

But I am afraid this time it is one of those cases, unfortunately.

I would think strangulation too but that doesn't ring true with needing bleach, so maybe bludgeoning of some sort.

imoo

Im sure he didnt get all of it cleaned up. Im wondering what they found in that house. Like bobby cutts and his bleach! I guess we might find out soon. jmo

[Wolfpack Fan]

What is the exact link to the press conference? I can't figure out how to see it.

[MoonFlwr]

http://www.wral.com/news/video/3214241/

Press conference (I think!)

[luckyme]

http://www.wral.com/news/video/3214241/

Press conference (I think!)

Thats it and the camera is ready! its starting now!

[MoonFlwr]

Search warrants served for the house, cars and Brad.

No POI, no arrest.

[luckyme]

bleach question again! can not comment!

[MoonFlwr]

The convenience store at 4 am question, again! :eek:

[calidreamin]

Cheif of police: 2:00 am they got search warrents for the home, both cars and Brad himself. Brad is staying with friends and taking care of children. They will process everything today. Cannot comment on specifeics.

[audie]

What is the exact link to the press conference? I can't figure out how to see it.I think this it. Not coming on for me though.

http://www.wral.com/news/video/3214241/

[Blink34]

Let me add one thing before I stop posting for the night:

If he did it, I would expect the motive to be based on money. I would not expect that he was afraid of losing his wife to another man as much as he would not want to face the economic consequences.

Calgary- welcome to WS, albeit under less than lovely circumstances. I wanted to say I was gripped by your fair, respectful and articulate posts regarding Brad Cooper and your experience with him, as well as that of mutual friends and I lok forward to hearing your thoughts as this case progresses.

I feel like I know this guy, Hell I know a few of these Brad's, sadly.
What I would like to ask you if possible, when you do speak to his former girlfriends, if they are able to give you any "signs" if they were asked what to notice as a woman in a relationship with such a person that someone could look out for. I may be an idealist, but I sure hope that what is gleaned from this tragedy is that some woman somewhere reading this does not end up like Nancy, God Bless her.

[calidreamin]

We have had a murder but do not believe the comminty is in danger.

[wufdude]

Mine won't come up either. Thanks for the updates.

[MoonFlwr]

Cannot confirm that she was wearing jogging clothes.

Is the search warrant for Brad himself, in order to take forensic evidence? "Yes, it is".

Anymore details on COD? "Not releasing at this time".

[luckyme]

The only search warrants are for brad himself and the house and cars! no details released on cause of death.

[calidreamin]

Nancy's family is there but they wont be answering questions at this time.

[MoonFlwr]

House was searched overnight...ending at 6:30 am.

Restarted the search of the house at 8 am today.

Was luminol used? Can't say.

[luckyme]

She does not know if brad has obtained a attorney. Brad is letting the children see her family. 8:00 the search will continue of the house. Will not comment on luminol. The body scene has been released. Will be back tomm at 9:00 unless something breaks in case.

[calidreamin]

There is another PC scheduled for 9 tommorow monrning. If anything happens before then the press will be called back in.

[LaLaw2000]

It is on Fox news. Talking to Dr. Baden now.

[Wolfpack Fan]

Someone asked again about him buying bleach, and she said that they can't comment about that at this time.

[LaLaw2000]

OOPS!
It is off now on Fox.

[luckyme]

I wonder if they are going to do a dna on his scratches? They had a search warrant for him! jmo

[LaLaw2000]

I was hoping the COD would be announced as they do know now how Nancy was killed.

[calidreamin]

I wonder if they are going to do a dna on his scratches? They had a search warrant for him! jmo
I am sure they will, plus if she was able to scratch him she might have his skin under her nails.

[luckyme]

I am sure they will, plus if she was able to scratch him she might have his skin under her nails.

I was thinking that too!

[luckyme]

I was hoping the COD would be announced as they do know now how Nancy was killed.

Probally wont release cod until scene is done and perp is arrested. jmo

[PandaJ]

Good morning everyone, and thanks for the recap of the press conference.

They are saying SO MUCH without really saying much at all, IMO.

I'm so relieved that they've got their search warrants and are ready to go today. If those scratches rumors really are true, then they will definitely find out! If Brad IS the pos that did this, then he must really be shaking now.

jmo

[luckyme]

anyone know about how long to process the crime scene?

[calidreamin]

Good morning everyone, and thanks for the recap of the press conference.

They are saying SO MUCH without really saying much at all, IMO.

I'm so relieved that they've got their search warrants and are ready to go today. If those scratches rumors really are true, then they will definitely find out! If Brad IS the pos that did this, then he must really be shaking now.

jmo

Good morning Panda and I completely agree with you. I think he is their one and only suspect and he has to be a nervous wreck right now.

[audie]

I was hoping the COD would be announced as they do know now how Nancy was killed.They do?

[audie]

anyone know about how long to process the crime scene?The only known crime scene has been released, IIRC.

[luckyme]

The only known crime scene has been released, IIRC.

I dont think that was the only crime scene. I think they already know she was killed in that house. But thats my opinion. They released the scene where the body was found and are concetrating on that house. JMO

[Wolfpack Fan]

The chief said they would process the home and both vehicles today. Here are some other details from the press conference. Brad was invited to the press conference today, but he didn't show up. The police will provide an officer to cover him as long as necessary. The chief doesn't believe there is someone out there looking for joggers or women in general. Someone asked why they issued a search warrant when Brad has already let them look in the house. She said that the warrant allows them to do a detailed search for forensic evidence. Brad is the last person who saw Nancy. Her friends saw her at the party the night before. Someone asked if they believed they knew the cause of death but just couldn't tell people. She said that information couldn't be released at this time. Someone asked if anyone in the area where she was found saw anything. She said that was part of the investigation.

[MoonFlwr]

Another link....mostly stuff we know, but anyway.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3214017/

[audie]

I dont think that was the only crime scene. I think they already know she was killed in that house. But thats my opinion. They released the scene where the body was found and are concetrating on that house. JMOI guess that is a good question. Is the place where the victim was last seen considered a crime scene? Even if they haven't found any evidence yet, of a crime taking place there?

[luckyme]

I guess that is a good question. Is the place where the victim was last seen considered a crime scene? Even if they haven't found any evidence yet, of a crime taking place there?

I dont know,but i guarantee you that they know she wasnt killed where her body was found. They have to have something to obtain a search warrant from a judge. JMO. I beleive if she was killed where her body was found they would warn the public. jmo

[PandaJ]

I guess that is a good question. Is the place where the victim was last seen considered a crime scene? Even if they haven't found any evidence yet, of a crime taking place there?

I would think that unless they know for CERTAIN where the crime tookplace, they may be treating any place she last seen as a possible crime scene as well....especially if they don't believe she was killed where they found her body.

JMO

[oceanblueeyes]

I guess that is a good question. Is the place where the victim was last seen considered a crime scene? Even if they haven't found any evidence yet, of a crime taking place there?

Yes, it is, audie. Where the victim is found is one and if the victim was killed elsewhere then that will become a crime scene too.

imoo

[audie]

Anyway back to the original question. If it is about the house, I would expect the search/processing of the house would take at least a couple days. Does anyone know when they executed the warrant for the house? Was it last night or yesterday?

[oceanblueeyes]

The only known crime scene has been released, IIRC.

Right, as of now that is the only verifiable crime scene. Believe me LE is working quickly to change that.

Now through the SWs they will try to find evidence that Nancy was killed inside her home and possibly transported in one of their vehicles to the area where she was found.

They have taken his DNA hoping that he left his DNA on her body, such as if he bled on her clothing or it commingled in her hair as he deposed of her. etc.

imoo

[luckyme]

my son is in college for forensics. He says that they could tell right off if a person was dumped and not murdered at the sight of where the body was found. Body positioning and COD ect. jmo

[luckyme]

Anyway back to the original question. If it is about the house, I would expect the search/processing of the house would take at least a couple days. Does anyone know when they executed the warrant for the house? Was it last night or yesterday?
This morning at 2:00 AM per press conference. :eek: and they worked until 6:30 and resumed at 8:00

[oceanblueeyes]

Anyway back to the original question. If it is about the house, I would expect the search/processing of the house would take at least a couple days. Does anyone know when they executed the warrant for the house? Was it last night or yesterday?

It just depends. IIRC in the Michelle Young case LE was there 13 days once they obtained a search warrant.

However this one is different. He said she went jogging and was not supposed to be inside the home when she was killed. I think this one will take no more than probably until this afternoon.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if the luminol testing glows and right there they will have him and could announce his arrest tomorrow or Friday.

JMO tho.

[christine2448]

Thanks to those recapping from TV today...no TV at work :(

Keep us workerbees updated throughout the day? Please and TIA!

[christine2448]

Continue here please. (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2385320#post2385320)