Nancy Cooper, 34, of Cary, N.C. #3

[christine2448]

Please continue discussions here.

Links to previous discussions and related topics can be seen toward the bottom of the page.

Welcome Newbies...sad such a tragedy is bringing us together. (I have been having to say that TOO much lately!!! :furious:)

[Aimee729]

Hello All- Another Newbie here. The picture of Brad coming out of the house carrying the carseats (posted by TaxiMom) seems extremely odd to me. The temperature down here is in the high 80's and its very humid too. The long sleeve shirt and even the jeans seem out of place to me. He is hiding something on his body. If their neighborhood is like my neighborhood (also in NC)- we know all of our neighbors and we frequently get together at each others houses, as couples and with our families for dinner and drinks. The kids all play together and we are like each others family- especially for those of us who do not have family in the area. So I am betting that their neighbors know a lot about Brad and their relationship. As for the purse in the car, it is very common. Especially if the car is in your garage. We lock our cars, but I often leave my purse in the car- and Nancy may have too, as she would be needing her hands free to get the girls in their carseats. Brad seems very narcassistic to me and the public web pages remind me of someone- well, my teenagers age or maturity. Not that of a 34 year old married father of 2. He is too into himself.

[PandaJ]

Please continue discussions here.

Welcome Newbies...sad such a tragedy is bringing us together. (I have been having to say that TOO much lately!!! :furious:)

Good morning! Thanks for the new thread.

I know what you mean....I wish Websleuths was a community about cooking and searching for different ways to make a cake....It would be great if there were no tragedies to discuss.

jmo

[MoonFlwr]

Just posting this link again for those who may want to watch this morning's press conference later.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/3214733/


:Welcome-12-june: Aimee ....and any other newcomers!

[Tia]

Thanks for keeping us at work updated!

I think an arrest is coming any time today.

[luckyme]

Hello All- Another Newbie here. The picture of Brad coming out of the house carrying the carseats (posted by TaxiMom) seems extremely odd to me. The temperature down here is in the high 80's and its very humid too. The long sleeve shirt and even the jeans seem out of place to me. He is hiding something on his body. If their neighborhood is like my neighborhood (also in NC)- we know all of our neighbors and we frequently get together at each others houses, as couples and with our families for dinner and drinks. The kids all play together and we are like each others family- especially for those of us who do not have family in the area. So I am betting that their neighbors know a lot about Brad and their relationship. As for the purse in the car, it is very common. Especially if the car is in your garage. We lock our cars, but I often leave my purse in the car- and Nancy may have too, as she would be needing her hands free to get the girls in their carseats. Brad seems very narcassistic to me and the public web pages remind me of someone- well, my teenagers age or maturity. Not that of a 34 year old married father of 2. He is too into himself.

Hi ! I agree about the neighbors. I think Brad must have lawyered up by now. I suppose thats why hes not going to press conferences. JMO

[PandaJ]

Hello All- Another Newbie here. The picture of Brad coming out of the house carrying the carseats (posted by TaxiMom) seems extremely odd to me. The temperature down here is in the high 80's and its very humid too. The long sleeve shirt and even the jeans seem out of place to me. He is hiding something on his body. If their neighborhood is like my neighborhood (also in NC)- we know all of our neighbors and we frequently get together at each others houses, as couples and with our families for dinner and drinks. The kids all play together and we are like each others family- especially for those of us who do not have family in the area. So I am betting that their neighbors know a lot about Brad and their relationship. As for the purse in the car, it is very common. Especially if the car is in your garage. We lock our cars, but I often leave my purse in the car- and Nancy may have too, as she would be needing her hands free to get the girls in their carseats. Brad seems very narcassistic to me and the public web pages remind me of someone- well, my teenagers age or maturity. Not that of a 34 year old married father of 2. He is too into himself.

Hi Aimee,

I completely agree with you, especially about those web pages. I know that they are focused on his races, but you would think there would be at least ONE reference to his wife, his children, etc. It's very strange to me and like you said, not the mentality of a married father of two. I have a blog that has nothing to do with my husband, but I find myself still mentioning him in there once in awhile.....something about that just doesn't sit right with me, especially given these circumstances.

jmo

[christine2448]

Good morning! Thanks for the new thread.

I know what you mean....I wish Websleuths was a community about cooking and searching for different ways to make a cake....It would be great if there were no tragedies to discuss.

jmo


OT, there is a Cooking Section ;) What's Cooking? (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=96) JIC anyone needs a 'break' from this for a bit. :behindbar

[Tia]

I wonder if the family is holding off on the funeral arrangements until after an arrest.

[calidreamin]

Hi aimee and welcome to Websleuths!! I agree about the neighbors, they must know of their relationship. Also I could see her leaving her purse in the car under the circumstances you brought up.

[MCDRAW]

They may not be calling Brad a person of interest but they sure are acting like he is. I wish for their girls sake that he was innocent. It's not looking like it right now. Their families are in my prayers especially those little girls.

[stillblv]

Hi Aimee,

I completely agree with you, especially about those web pages. I know that they are focused on his races, but you would think there would be at least ONE reference to his wife, his children, etc. It's very strange to me and like you said, not the mentality of a married father of two. I have a blog that has nothing to do with my husband, but I find myself still mentioning him in there once in awhile.....something about that just doesn't sit right with me, especially given these circumstances.

jmo


I was thinking also that if they both are into running then you would think they would be enjoying this activity together....but it seems like he was into his thing and she was not included.

[calidreamin]

I wonder if the family is holding off on the funeral arrangements until after an arrest.

They could be. They may want to take her home to canada but are waiting for the police to arrest someone. They are also probably trying to figure out who will care for the girls if the father is arrested.

[MCDRAW]

I was thinking also that if they both are into running then you would think they would be enjoying this activity together....but it seems like he was into his thing and she was not included.


Maybe one ran while the other watched the girls.

[christine2448]

I am also praying for the girls sake he is innocent. Remember Jennifer Wilbanks..the runaway bride? We had her fiance pegged...lawyered right up, refused LDT, we had him sitting in the electric chair the first day..see how that one turned out?

We all assume it's him because it makes the most sense right now, and we are prolly right. :(

Here's my problem...I wish Nancy's family would get those kids from him...if he did do this, he is NOT in his right mind right now, he could surely lose it and do the kids and himself in. Why aren't the kids with Auntie/Gp's??

[MoonFlwr]

They may not be calling Brad a person of interest but they sure are acting like he is. I wish for their girls sake that he was innocent. It's not looking like it right now. Their families are in my prayers especially those little girls.

Agreed, MCDRAW.....they sure are acting like he is.
And ditto.....so hoping for the girls' (and family's) sake that he is innocent - but it's not looking good!

[Aimee729]

I was thinking also that if they both are into running then you would think they would be enjoying this activity together....but it seems like he was into his thing and she was not included.

I think it is probably like playing golf with your husband- he would probably rather play with the guys. I wonder if Nancy was always into running or if she started this as a common interest to share with Brad, since running is is obvious passion. Did they meet through running or in college? I guess none of that matters now.

[stillblv]

Maybe one ran while the other watched the girls.


I was kind of referring to the websites he was on. It seemed like it was HIS thing - not something he did with his wife. Otherwise, I would think he would have mentioned her once in a while.

[MCDRAW]

I am also praying for the girls sake he is innocent. Remember Jennifer Wilbanks..the runaway bride? We had her fiance pegged...lawyered right up, refused LDT, we had him sitting in the electric chair the first day..see how that one turned out?

We all assume it's him because it makes the most sense right now, and we are prolly right. :(

Here's my problem...I wish Nancy's family would get those kids from him...if he did do this, he is NOT in his right mind right now, he could surely lose it and do the kids and himself in. Why aren't the kids with Auntie/Gp's??


I would think that they can't take the girls from him unless he is arrested. But I thought I read where he was staying with some friends. So hopefully if the girls need protecting, someone will be there to do so. I really think if he killed her it was in the heat of the moment. But I could be wrong.

[luckyme]

In the comment section under the story on wral.com someone mentions the wesite websleuths. :)

[MCDRAW]

I was kind of referring to the websites he was on. It seemed like it was HIS thing - not something he did with his wife. Otherwise, I would think he would have mentioned her once in a while.


Oh, I'm sorry I misunderstood. I think your right in regard to the websites.

[Aimee729]

I would think that they can't take the girls from him unless he is arrested. But I thought I read where he was staying with some friends. So hopefully if the girls need protecting, someone will be there to do so. I really think if he killed her it was in the heat of the moment. But I could be wrong.

I agree, thus his not thought out efforts to cover the evidence.

[christine2448]

I really think if he killed her it was in the heat of the moment. But I could be wrong.

I agree, if he did it, it was as you state. BUT, my point is..imagine how he must feel now, if he just lost it, killed his wife, they are closing in....he could go off the deep end and end his own life, I just hope he doesn't hurt those kids.

[Blink34]

I agree, if he did it, it was as you state. BUT, my point is..imagine how he must feel now, if he just lost it, killed his wife, they are closing in....he could go off the deep end and end his own life, I just hope he doesn't hurt those kids.

I completely agree and posted upthread I believe the video of him at the store is enough to prove that he left them home alone, or at least start the allegation investigation. I dont care if he is being followed- it is not enough. Im wondering if the family has the kids more than LE is saying.
If not they are gambling on a guy that has nothing to lose- very dangerous, imo. Praying.

[MCDRAW]

I agree, if he did it, it was as you state. BUT, my point is..imagine how he must feel now, if he just lost it, killed his wife, they are closing in....he could go off the deep end and end his own life, I just hope he doesn't hurt those kids.


I agree desperate people do desperate things. I hope the girls are being protected just in case.

[Aimee729]

I agree, if he did it, it was as you state. BUT, my point is..imagine how he must feel now, if he just lost it, killed his wife, they are closing in....he could go off the deep end and end his own life, I just hope he doesn't hurt those kids.

I see your point. There have been 3 cases I know of in our area of NC where the father has murdered the children- and only in one case, himself, due to am impending sereration of the marriage. One man said he did not want his children to grow up without their parents- so he killed them. This man stopped short of killing himself. It is difficult to try to understand their thinking as they try to rationalize their actions.

[miss lisa]

I am wondering if he has or will retain Jason Young's high powered attorney???

[raisincharlie]

I am wondering if he has or will retain Jason Young's high powered attorney???

I'm wondering if he is friends with Jason Young. JY is still hiding out in the mountains around Brevard - still a free man and still refusing to assist in the investigation into his wife's and unborn son's murders.

[miss lisa]

I'm wondering if he is friends with Jason Young. JY is still hiding out in the mountains around Brevard - still a free man and still refusing to assist in the investigation into his wife's and unborn son's murders.

Both NCSU grads, both very athletic, both very into "things" and themselves.:rolleyes:

[Sweetyhide]

From this link:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3214017/

"The wheel that is our family is missing a spoke. And while that wheel is now forever changed, it's incumbent on us to adapt so we may continue to spin," Cooper's brother, Jeff Rentz, said. "Nancy is a mother, a daughter and a sister, and that's how we'll keep her alive in our hearts."

I am probably reading too much into this statement but it struck me as odd that he left out "wife".

I do hope that Brad is cleared, at least for the sake of those children.

[Aimee729]

http://www.canada.com/components/print.aspx?id=a276c0f3-b766-4eec-87db-2324f71dbf09&sponsor=

The wheel that is our family is missing a spoke," said Jeff Rentz, Nancy's brother, an Edmonton police constable with southeast division. He sat beside Bazemore(Cary police chief Pat Bazemore ) as she made the announcement.

Interesting that Nancy's brother is an Edmonton police constable AND that the Cary police chief is female. I'll bet they are all over the legal aspects of this case. Brad picked the wrong girl to mess with.

[calidreamin]

From this link:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3214017/

"The wheel that is our family is missing a spoke. And while that wheel is now forever changed, it's incumbent on us to adapt so we may continue to spin," Cooper's brother, Jeff Rentz, said. "Nancy is a mother, a daughter and a sister, and that's how we'll keep her alive in our hearts."

I am probably reading too much into this statement but it struck me as odd that he left out "wife".

I do hope that Brad is cleared, at least for the sake of those children.

I noticed he left out wife as well. I am sure being a police officer he has a lot of suspisions were the husband is concerned. Also if he and his sister were close he might have had a lot of inside info on what was going on in the relationship. He might know a lot about what their relationship was like.

[luckyme]

I found this from a site that i frequent. I couldnt beleive it. :eek:

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html

[ckwood32]

Just catching up here!! I can't get to that site - access blocked @ work. What does it say?

[luckyme]

Just catching up here!! I can't get to that site - access blocked @ work. What does it say?

Brad was having an affair and had multiple affairs. The friends are talking! He was having an affair with an aquantice of hers. let me see if i can get abc11 news. Mom of 3 was also quoted with her post about the bleach.

[Pocono Sleuther]

I found this from a site that i frequent. I couldnt beleive it. :eek:

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html


Holy Heck Batman!!!
What is with these men and their darn affairs~! Of course, it may not be true, but I'm leaning toward it being the motive for sure.

:rage:

[TGIRecovered]

I found this from a site that i frequent. I couldnt beleive it. :eek:

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html

Thanks, luckyme. Added that one to my crime bookmarks. Powerful writing...I like it.

Susan

[stillblv]

I found this from a site that i frequent. I couldnt beleive it. :eek:

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html


WOW! There was certainly alot of information packed into that article that hasn't come out in the national sites. Geesh - her family and friends must be seething! I bet they all know who the "friend" is, too.

Let's hope Mr. Hubby doesn't decide to do something reckless with his kids.

[ckwood32]

Thanks luckyme. Not sure why access is blocked here @ work. I'll check it out when I get home.

[miss lisa]

I found this from a site that i frequent. I couldnt beleive it. :eek:

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html


Wow! If true could this be another common trait with Jason Young???:eek:

[jilly]

Thanks, luckyme. Added that one to my crime bookmarks. Powerful writing...I like it.

Susan

I've just added it too! Thanks also luckyme. I got a sense of relief reading it knowing that Nancy 'talked'. Too many of these women keep things to themselves and unfortunately take them to their grave.

[TGIRecovered]

Brad was having an affair and had multiple affairs. The friends are talking! He was having an affair with an aquantice of hers. let me see if i can get abc11 news. Mom of 3 was also quoted with her post about the bleach.

Not pointing any fingers, but just wondering about the friend who was on Greta or Nancy the other night. The one with short blond hair. She seemed so calm and confident when she said that she had no reason at all to suspect Brad's involvement in his wife's disappearance.

The Bluelineradio article say the latest affair was with one of Nancy's friends...?

Susan

( I do not want to create any confusion here...I am not referring to "Nancy'sFriend" here on Websleuths, who seems to be genuinely looking for answers as to what happened to Nancy! )

[luckyme]

I've just added it too! Thanks also luckyme. I got a sense of relief reading it knowing that Nancy 'talked'. Too many of these women keep things to themselves and unfortunately take them to their grave.

You know i had a friend that was an abused wife and she told me if she were to die or go missing to go straight to the police because her husband did it. Thankfully she just got out of that situation but it was very ugly. I had to testify and everything. I think nancy told friends also.

[luckyme]

Not pointing any fingers, but just wondering about the friend who was on Greta or Nancy the othernight. The one with short blond hair. She seemed so calm and confident when she said that she had no reason at all to suspect Brad's involvement in his wife's disappearance.

The Bluelineradio article say the latest affair was with one of Nancy's friends...?

Susan

( I do not want to create any confusion here...I am not referring to "Nancy'sFriend" here on Websleuths, who semms to be genuinely looking for answers as to what happened to Nancy! )

I think nancyfriend on here is a man. jmo

[SuziQ]

I found this from a site that i frequent. I couldnt beleive it. :eek:

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html

Thanks for posting this link. I'm bookmarking it for future reading.

[raisincharlie]

I've just added it too! Thanks also luckyme. I got a sense of relief reading it knowing that Nancy 'talked'. Too many of these women keep things to themselves and unfortunately take them to their grave.

Hello sweetie :blowkiss:

Can you believe this ? Sure sounds like a repeat of the Young case doesn't it ? If this is true and Mr. Cooper murdered Nancy because of it, I sure hope they get this guy and don't let him walk around free and with his two children in his possession. Ay least for the time being, he is allowing the grand parents time to see and be with the children - wonder how long that is going to last ? I have a bad feeling he is as guilty as sin.

[kato]

Just catching up here!! I can't get to that site - access blocked @ work. What does it say?

I can't get it either. They have it blocked at work.

[SuziQ]

Dr Baden weighs in:

http://www.foxnews.com/video/index.html?playerId=videolandingpage&streamingFormat=FLASH&referralObject=2352422&referralPlaylistId=949437d0db05ed5f5b9954dc049d70b 0c12f2749

[calidreamin]

Brad was having an affair and had multiple affairs. The friends are talking! He was having an affair with an aquantice of hers. let me see if i can get abc11 news. Mom of 3 was also quoted with her post about the bleach.

:eek::eek: oh no what a creep if true. A lot of these men with wives that are murdered seem to have affairs.:mad:

[jilly]

You know i had a friend that was an abused wife and she told me if she were to die or go missing to go straight to the police because her husband did it. Thankfully she just got out of that situation but it was very ugly. I had to testify and everything. I think nancy told friends also.

Glad your friend confided in you and most of all got away. I understand how many women are embarrassed or whatever to say anything, but I just wish they'd confide in one person or maintain a journal or something!

[TGIRecovered]

If I were one of the grandparents, or an aunt or uncle, for that matter, I would take the first opportunity to hire a lawyer for the babies and petition for temporary custody. Heck, I'd probably buy the little girls a couple of Big Gulps and offer to take them to the ladies room when they had to pee,(every two minutes, with little girls). We'd be out the back door before he knew what happened.

Susan

[stillblv]

Nancy Cooper's friends hoped she'd just gotten lost.
They could even swallow her hiding, perhaps attempting to escape her American life as the wife of a Research Triangle Park business executive.

I think that is a very telling sentence. Why would she want to "escape her American life...?

From this article:http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1143035.html

[miss lisa]

Hello sweetie :blowkiss:

Can you believe this ? Sure sounds like a repeat of the Young case doesn't it ? If this is true and Mr. Cooper murdered Nancy because of it, I sure hope they get this guy and don't let him walk around free and with his two children in his possession. Ay least for the time being, he is allowing the grand parents time to see and be with the children - wonder how long that is going to last ? I have a bad feeling he is as guilty as sin.


:confused:I wonder if Mr. Cooper knew/knows Mr. Young? Many, many comparisons here.

[SuziQ]

Nancy Cooper's friends hoped she'd just gotten lost.
They could even swallow her hiding, perhaps attempting to escape her American life as the wife of a Research Triangle Park business executive.

I think that is a very telling sentence. Why would she want to "escape her American life...?

From this article:http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1143035.html

I think it was only used to underscore how hard it is for her friends to accept that Nancy was dead.

[raisincharlie]

Nancy Cooper's friends hoped she'd just gotten lost.
They could even swallow her hiding, perhaps attempting to escape her American life as the wife of a Research Triangle Park business executive.

I think that is a very telling sentence. Why would she want to "escape her American life...?

From this article:http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/story/1143035.html

Thanks for the article - is it true, if you know, that it was indeed her friend that reported her missing on saturday afternoon as this article suggests ? WOW - on a Saturday morning this man doesn't know his wife is missing and by Saturday afternoon has not reported her missing ? Holy cow.

[SuziQ]

:confused:I wonder if Mr. Cooper knew/knows Mr. Young? Many, many comparisons here.

There was the same discussion regarding Stebic and Peterson. IMO, narcissists are too selfish to be friends with another narcissist. lol.

[Taximom]

I think nancyfriend on here is a man. jmo

I believe you are correct, luckyme.

So I've been gone 3 hours. In a nutshell, what happened?! I'll be trying to catch up, but is he a suspect? Arrested? Anything new? Thanks!!

[close_enough]

I found this from a site that i frequent. I couldnt beleive it. :eek:

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html

wow!...just got home from work & came straight to the computer to see about the press conf today...there was one, this morning, right???.......

dang, this freak & Jason Young would probably be best buddies if they knew each other:mad:
Jason slept around w/a friend of Michelle's too...ugh

[miss lisa]

Actually, now that I think about it... People from the Michelle Young board help me out here.... Wasn't the friend that came and watched Grey's Ant. with Michelle that night from Cary? hmmmmm.....

Searching for a link now!!!!

[close_enough]

:confused:I wonder if Mr. Cooper knew/knows Mr. Young? Many, many comparisons here.

no kidding!!!....kinda creepy

[raisincharlie]

Actually, now that I think about it... People from the Michelle Young board help me out here.... Wasn't the friend that came and watched Grey's Ant. with Michelle that night from Cary? hmmmmm.....

Searching for a link now!!!!

I can't remember Miss Lisa but I believe you are correct. Shelly Schad (Schaad - can't even remember how to spell it).

[miss lisa]

I can't remember Miss Lisa but I believe you are correct. Shelly Schad.


YES!!! That's her! And I believe from CARY, NC.

[snowshuze]

Hello sweetie :blowkiss:

Can you believe this ? Sure sounds like a repeat of the Young case doesn't it ? If this is true and Mr. Cooper murdered Nancy because of it, I sure hope they get this guy and don't let him walk around free and with his two children in his possession. Ay least for the time being, he is allowing the grand parents time to see and be with the children - wonder how long that is going to last ? I have a bad feeling he is as guilty as sin.

Howdy stranger. :)
I concur with your "bad feeling".

[jilly]

Hello sweetie :blowkiss:

Can you believe this ? Sure sounds like a repeat of the Young case doesn't it ? If this is true and Mr. Cooper murdered Nancy because of it, I sure hope they get this guy and don't let him walk around free and with his two children in his possession. Ay least for the time being, he is allowing the grand parents time to see and be with the children - wonder how long that is going to last ? I have a bad feeling he is as guilty as sin.

Hey RC!!!:blowkiss:Here we go again!:( Yup....sounds the same as the Youngs'. Having an affair with the wife's friend?!
Wonder why Brad isn't considered a POI? Maybe because he is still talking to LE?
I think the family is leaning towards Brad. Reading a WRAL article last nite, Nancy's brother said they would be remembering Nancy as a mother, daughter and sister. No mention of wife. (Maybe I'm reading too much into it, though).
Wonder where Brad's family is. Haven't heard anything about them. I might have missed it - living in the West - hard to keep up. I seem to be spending much of my time :read: to catch up.
I think Brad and the children have police protection right now don't they? That'll keep an eye on the children.

[TGIRecovered]

If all the neighbors know, someone needs to tell who he was screwing around with. I see no need at all to protect this person...she was sleeping with her friend's husband. She personally knew Nancy and her babies.

Susan

[calidreamin]

I believe you are correct, luckyme.

So I've been gone 3 hours. In a nutshell, what happened?! I'll be trying to catch up, but is he a suspect? Arrested? Anything new? Thanks!!

He is not arrested yet TM. The press confrence said they got a warrent to search the house, 2 cars and Brad himself. Brad is staying with friends and has the kids.

[raisincharlie]

Howdy stranger. :)
I concur with your "bad feeling".

Case is solved then - I've never known you to be wrong about these things ! :blowkiss:

Howdy back at you - I had to go to Ohio to get a good wireless connection !

[miss lisa]

He is not arrested yet TM. The press confrence said they got a warrent to search the house, 2 cars and Brad himself. Brad is staying with friends and has the kids.


I wonder WHICH friend ole Brad is staying with....

[Aimee729]

CRIMES OF PASSION

Many of Nancy Cooper's closest friends have been talking about what they know and what they believe to have happened. Most everyone agrees that the latest of many affairs Brad Cooper has been involved in was too much for Nancy to bear.

Although adultery isn't a crime, it has led to countless murders and assaults. A crime of passion they call it. Just can't help yourself. Till death do you part.

Imagine knowing that the argument or anger that led to Nancy's murder was because of your lack of loyalty, your poor sense of judgment, your part in the betrayal, how would you live with yourself? And imagine thinking nobody knows but they do, they all do. Everyone knows what the anger was all about. Everyone knows why Nancy wanted out.

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html

[close_enough]

Thanks for posting this link. I'm bookmarking it for future reading.

i did the same thing.....thanks lucky!.....

& Nancy had Crohns Disease (sp?) too:(...that's another reason, hubby should have been worried about her, grrrrrrrrr....

[snowshuze]

Case is solved then - I've never known you to be wrong about these things ! :blowkiss:

Howdy back at you - I had to go to Ohio to get a good wireless connection !
Sure is good to see you here.

Apparently Brad isn't as devious as JY about keeping knowlege of his "lady friends" from the wife, eh? Seems they ALL<friends> know about them <yep, plural :eek:>.

[fran]

Thanks for the article - is it true, if you know, that it was indeed her friend that reported her missing on saturday afternoon as this article suggests ? WOW - on a Saturday morning this man doesn't know his wife is missing and by Saturday afternoon has not reported her missing ? Holy cow.

Hi raisincharlie! How ya doin?

What's weird or contradictary about him not reporting her missing, IMHO, is he told Greta that she was never out of touch with the family when she went jogging for more than one hour, two at the most.

Yet, he claims she left at 6:30 am to 7:00 am, here it was 2:00, she hadn't returned and she had an engagement to help someone paint. Yet, not Nancy and he didn't call anyone. It wasn't until the friend called, the friend became concerned when Brad said she hadn't returned and the friend called LE.

I so hate to say this,.....but..............well, ya know!?:rolleyes:

JMHO
fran

[miss lisa]

"This tragic murder will break up the neighborhood's superficial camaraderie, but just before it implodes, someone will be thrown to the lions."

Friends and neighbors need to start telling everything that they know and have seen.

[close_enough]

Hello sweetie :blowkiss:

Can you believe this ? Sure sounds like a repeat of the Young case doesn't it ? If this is true and Mr. Cooper murdered Nancy because of it, I sure hope they get this guy and don't let him walk around free and with his two children in his possession. Ay least for the time being, he is allowing the grand parents time to see and be with the children - wonder how long that is going to last ? I have a bad feeling he is as guilty as sin.

hi RC!.....yes, that's at least a good thing, out of this tragedy.....for now

[calidreamin]

I wonder WHICH friend ole Brad is staying with....

Oh god I hope it is not Nancy's friend that he is having the affair with.:mad:

[fran]

I didn't know Nancy had a medical condition. Then he should have definitely been worried about her and been out looking. What the heck?!

I so hope, IF he was having an affair, it wasn't with one of her friends, neighbors, or any of her acquaintances. That is too sad to even think about!

I didn't know that she had just been on a visit to her family in Canada and had just returned.

Wow! Wonder what he was doing while she was away?:waitasec:

JMHO
fran

[close_enough]

Hi raisincharlie! How ya doin?

What's weird or contradictary about him not reporting her missing, IMHO, is he told Greta that she was never out of touch with the family when she went jogging for more than one hour, two at the most.

Yet, he claims she left at 6:30 am to 7:00 am, here it was 2:00, she hadn't returned and she had an engagement to help someone paint. Yet, not Nancy and he didn't call anyone. It wasn't until the friend called, the friend became concerned when Brad said she hadn't returned and the friend called LE.

I so hate to say this,.....but..............well, ya know!?:rolleyes:

JMHO
fran

i'm glad her friend decided to call LE.....i'll bet Nancy had told this friend of all the problems with the marriage, & may have even alerted her that if something were to happen to her to call LE, or let LE know to check out hubby, etc....

[raisincharlie]

Hi raisincharlie! How ya doin?

What's weird or contradictary about him not reporting her missing, IMHO, is he told Greta that she was never out of touch with the family when she went jogging for more than one hour, two at the most.

Yet, he claims she left at 6:30 am to 7:00 am, here it was 2:00, she hadn't returned and she had an engagement to help someone paint. Yet, not Nancy and he didn't call anyone. It wasn't until the friend called, the friend became concerned when Brad said she hadn't returned and the friend called LE.

I so hate to say this,.....but..............well, ya know!?:rolleyes:

JMHO
fran

I find that very strange Fran - very strange indeed. It makes me think LE is staying outside where he is staying because they really do suspect he is involved. This alone is rather indefensible - it was a Saturday - not a work day - two little kids to see are taken care of - don't tell me he just went off and did his thing while they were home alone. This stinks big time.

I'm good Fran and hope you are as well. Wow this is like visiting home with the folks following this case - good to "see" you sweetie !

[close_enough]

I didn't know Nancy had a medical condition. Then he should have definitely been worried about her and been out looking. What the heck?!

I so hope, IF he was having an affair, it wasn't with one of her friends, neighbors, or any of her acquaintances. That is too sad to even think about!

I didn't know that she had just been on a visit to her family in Canada and had just returned.

Wow! Wonder what he was doing while she was away?:waitasec:

JMHO
fran

yes, Fran....Crohn's Disease, per this article...

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html

At 3PM a friend of Nancy's calls police to say she is missing. No keys, no identification, no credit cards, nothing. Not even her medication for the treatment of Crohn's Disease, a debilitating and even deadly illness that requires strict adherence to the drug treatment schedule.

after re-reading this, i think it's possible that Brad put Nancy's purse in the car...he obviously knew that Nancy didn't have ID, no keys, medication, nothing on her, & told the friend, when she called to ask about Nancy's whereabouts......very odd that HE didn't call LE right then....this makes him look guilty, IMO.....he just LETS the friend call LE

[Taximom]

Thanks, Cali. :blowkiss:

I'm past the "sad" stage and just pissed that this guy felt he could take Nancy's life like IMO he did. Same with Michelle Young's murderer. It's been two freaking years and her killer (her hubby IMO) is STILL walking free, raising their young daughter with his freaking family supporting him. :sick: What happens next time he gets the urge to kill? He's done it once so what's to stop him?

God willing it will not be 2 yrs for Brad Cooper. Hopefully it's soon. Hopefully he screwed up the crime scene like he's screwed up those little girls' lives.

:mad:

[Taximom]

If he's not an American citizen, does that change things in any way legally for him or this case? Death penalty issues? Dang, I can't remember if NC has the DP or not!

[fran]

Sorry, I think you may have misunderstood me. HE was at home with the kids, yet it was several hours and Nancy hadn't returned home. He wasn't out looking or making any calls. Just sitting at home with the kids.

There is some indication, However, IF she was killed Friday night, that he may have left the kids home alone for a while, when he 'allegedly' (LOL, inside info, LE won't confirm), that he was buying cleaning supplies at 3:30-4:00 am at a local store. He told LE he went to get milk, but there is supposed to be video of him buying some type of cleaning supplies.

GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO!:) wish it was under better circumstances though!

JMHO
fran

[fran]

yes, Fran....Crohn's Disease, per this article...

http://www.bluelineradio.com/news714.html

At 3PM a friend of Nancy's calls police to say she is missing. No keys, no identification, no credit cards, nothing. Not even her medication for the treatment of Crohn's Disease, a debilitating and even deadly illness that requires strict adherence to the drug treatment schedule.

after re-reading this, i think it's possible that Brad put Nancy's purse in the car...he obviously knew that Nancy didn't have ID, no keys, medication, nothing on her, & told the friend, when she called to ask about Nancy's whereabouts......

Thanks close

When I saw that here, I googled the term to see what it was. He SHOULD have been worried and out looking for her!

JMHO
fran

[stillblv]

Thanks, Cali. :blowkiss:

I'm past the "sad" stage and just pissed that this guy felt he could take Nancy's life like IMO he did. Same with Michelle Young's murderer. It's been two freaking years and her killer (her hubby IMO) is STILL walking free, raising their young daughter with his freaking family supporting him. :sick: What happens next time he gets the urge to kill? He's done it once so what's to stop him?

God willing it will not be 2 yrs for Brad Cooper. Hopefully it's soon. Hopefully he screwed up the crime scene like he's screwed up those little girls' lives.

:mad:


What happens next time he gets the urge to kill?

See "Drew Peterson".

imo

[kellis06]

WOW!! Good Morning All. Just catching up on all this. The more I read and watch the PC's I can not make any other conclusion than HE DID IT....
Now I am wondering which friend he was having an affair with. Could it be hte one that reported her missing??? Never know, he might have confided in her after he did what he did , thinking she would be glad or something that they could be together. I have heard of it before...
Could it be one that has been posting on here to see what every one is saying???? Never know any more.

All this is JMO!!!

[miss lisa]

Both Nancy & Michelle had recently returned from a visit with their families.

[stillblv]

Sorry, I think you may have misunderstood me. HE was at home with the kids, yet it was several hours and Nancy hadn't returned home. He wasn't out looking or making any calls. Just sitting at home with the kids.

There is some indication, However, IF she was killed Friday night, that he may have left the kids home alone for a while, when he 'allegedly' (LOL, inside info, LE won't confirm), that he was buying cleaning supplies at 3:30-4:00 am at a local store. He told LE he went to get milk, but there is supposed to be video of him buying some type of cleaning supplies.

GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO!:) wish it was under better circumstances though!

JMHO
fran

Could he also at the same time dumped her body?

[Tia]

Sure is good to see you here.

Apparently Brad isn't as devious as JY about keeping knowlege of his "lady friends" from the wife, eh? Seems they ALL<friends> know about them <yep, plural :eek:>.

These cases are getting tiring and more and more depressing. All spouses know the possible consequences of cheating, so why act all surprised when the discovering spouse decides they have had enough? I just don't get it.

[Topsail Girl]

If he's not an American citizen, does that change things in any way legally for him or this case? Death penalty issues? Dang, I can't remember if NC has the DP or not!

Hi Taximom,

NC does have the death penalty. I would assume this would be similar to the Entwistle case. He was not an American citizen but since he murdered in the states he stood trial in the states.

[close_enough]

Thanks close

When I saw that here, I googled the term to see what it was. He SHOULD have been worried and out looking for her!

JMHO
fran

you're very welcome, & yes, he should have been worried!......

ok, so i gather the press conf this morning wasn't about any new events (can't think of the right word) of the case?....i'm filthy from work, & must get a shower...later

[fran]

If he's not an American citizen, does that change things in any way legally for him or this case? Death penalty issues? Dang, I can't remember if NC has the DP or not!

I believe NC does have the DP. But, IF he ends up being arrested for this crime, they'll have to come up with a LOT of evidence to show that it was 'premeditated,' IMHO. Quite often, that's the hardest part, the premeditation.

IMO, I haven't seen anything yet that IF he did it, was premeditated. So far, IF he did it, I think it was most likely 'heat of passion.' Although, it'll just take a BIG life insurance and, or, a girl friend to make me change my mind on that issue! :rolleyes:

Just sayin',
fran

[RoughlyCollie]

Well, he's sure not making nice with her family. I bet they know all about the marital problems and that Brad either knows what Nancy told them, or is afraid they know too much. No wonder he won't show his face at the press conferences, even though he would probably look more concerned about what is happening if he did.

[calidreamin]

Thanks, Cali. :blowkiss:

I'm past the "sad" stage and just pissed that this guy felt he could take Nancy's life like IMO he did. Same with Michelle Young's murderer. It's been two freaking years and her killer (her hubby IMO) is STILL walking free, raising their young daughter with his freaking family supporting him. :sick: What happens next time he gets the urge to kill? He's done it once so what's to stop him?

God willing it will not be 2 yrs for Brad Cooper. Hopefully it's soon. Hopefully he screwed up the crime scene like he's screwed up those little girls' lives.

:mad:

Hi TM:blowkiss:. I am pissed too and lets pray this wont end up like the Michelle Young case. Did you hear that he may have been having an affair with Nancy's friend? Well isn't he just a prize if true.:mad:

[close_enough]

WOW!! Good Morning All. Just catching up on all this. The more I read and watch the PC's I can not make any other conclusion than HE DID IT....
Now I am wondering which friend he was having an affair with. Could it be hte one that reported her missing??? Never know, he might have confided in her after he did what he did , thinking she would be glad or something that they could be together. I have heard of it before...
Could it be one that has been posting on here to see what every one is saying???? Never know any more.

All this is JMO!!!

hey there kellis!....i wanted to ask you a question....thanks so much for the link to the helicopter view....do you know if that footage was after Nancy's body had been removed from the pond?
....just curious...& thanks again, & welcome to WS:)

[fran]

you're very welcome, & yes, he should have been worried!......

ok, so i gather the press conf this morning wasn't about any new events (can't think of the right word) of the case?....i'm filthy from work, & must get a shower...later

Just that they're searching the house, yadda, yadda.....

Another press conference tomorrow at 9,..........unless something comes up.

Really, nothing earth shattering.

JMHO
fran

[Tia]

Both Nancy & Michelle had recently returned from a visit with their families.

This is reminding me a lot of Michelle's case.
So sad.

[raisincharlie]

I believe NC does have the DP. But, IF he ends up being arrested for this crime, they'll have to come up with a LOT of evidence to show that it was 'premeditated,' IMHO. Quite often, that's the hardest part, the premeditation.

IMO, I haven't seen anything yet that IF he did it, was premeditated. So far, IF he did it, I think it was most likely 'heat of passion.' Although, it'll just take a BIG life insurance and, or, a girl friend to make me change my mind on that issue! :rolleyes:

Just sayin',
fran

I'm thinking if he had to actually go to a store to buy items to clean up, it was probably not exactly a premeditated murder. More an arguement that got way out of control possibly. :behindbar

[close_enough]

Just that they're searching the house, yadda, yadda.....

Another press conference tomorrow at 9,..........unless something comes up.

Really, nothing earth shattering.

JMHO
fran

thanks fran....i sort of figured that was the case since no one was really 'talking' about it....i'll be here for the PC tomorrow morning though...

[close_enough]

I'm thinking if he had to actually go to a store to buy items to clean up, it was probably not exactly a premeditated murder. More an arguement that got way out of control possibly. :behindbar

that's exactly what i'm thinking, RC.....i think an argument started as soon as she got home, a little after midnight, that Friday/Saturday morning....

[fran]

Could he also at the same time dumped her body?

He MAY have been coming back from where her body was, stopped off to be sure he had enough for a clean up when he got home.

Don't worry though. LE is on to this. IF there is any type of clean up at home, LE knows HOW to spot it.

All these guys think they're smarter than everyone else that's done this before and know how to cover up their crime. They also think, because the watch CSI on tv, they can beat LE at their own game.

WRONG!!

pffft,
fran

[kellis06]

hey there kellis!....i wanted to ask you a question....thanks so much for the link to the helicopter view....do you know if that footage was after Nancy's body had been removed from the pond?
....just curious...& thanks again, & welcome to WS:)
Hi Close Enough!! Thanks for the welcome.
I am not positive if the body had been removed at that time but I am thinking it was and that this was just LE searching for evidence left at the site. If I am remembering correctly, it was close in the late evening when the body was reported being found and by the time reporters got to the scene and started interviewing LE it was dark. My guess is that the helicopter footage was taken the next morning while investigators where searching the scene. JMO

[christine2448]

I think nancyfriend on here is a man. jmo


You are correct.

[raisincharlie]

that's exactly what i'm thinking, RC.....i think an argument started as soon as she got home, a little after midnight, that Friday/Saturday morning....

Hello Close !

You know that party Nancy went to Friday night - she may have found out some things and decided to confront him with those things that night. It's possible. He was supposedly seen at the store buying stuff before the time he said she went for her run. I have a bad feeling...

[luckyme]

The place where they found her body was muddy looking and weve had alot of rain. tire prints and mud on tires could get him alone. I hope they are going through those cars with a fine tooth comb. He would of also left foot prints in the area. jmo

[fran]

I'm thinking if he had to actually go to a store to buy items to clean up, it was probably not exactly a premeditated murder. More an arguement that got way out of control possibly. :behindbar

Well, he MAY not have anticipated there being any blood! It's rumored he bought bleach or soap with bleach.

IF he did it, he may have thought, on his way home, 'oh, yeah, bleach will throw the forensics off!'

Dumb, IF that's what he thought.

JMHO
fran

PS.......I do agree with you though, for now, I'll say IF he did it, 2nd degree.

PPS...FWIW, there's rumors, think they're true though, she wanted to separate and he refused to leave the home. STRIKE ONE towards, premeditated.

PPPS.....I saw where she was away for a visit to her parents in Canada, and had just returned.........STRIKE TWO towards, premeditated........

I'll wait until a GF and insurance come up, THEN............all bets are off!

fran

[miss lisa]

I think that one of Brad's past roommates was on last night if so would you happen to know if Brad was "into" NCSU Football?

[fran]

Hi Close Enough!! Thanks for the welcome.
I am not positive if the body had been removed at that time but I am thinking it was and that this was just LE searching for evidence left at the site. If I am remembering correctly, it was close in the late evening when the body was reported being found and by the time reporters got to the scene and started interviewing LE it was dark. My guess is that the helicopter footage was taken the next morning while investigators where searching the scene. JMO

To me, it kind of looked like they were trying to drain that pond. Maybe they were going to see if 'whoever,' dumped evidence in there.

Thanks for the link for that, it was a really good view of the crime scene. or one of the crime scenes

JMHO
fran

[kellis06]

Hello Close !

You know that party Nancy went to Friday night - she may have found out some things and decided to confront him with those things that night. It's possible. He was supposedly seen at the store buying stuff before the time he said she went for her run. I have a bad feeling...
I am thinking some type of argument or confrontation started before the party, thus the friends reporting her not feeling well or looking good at the party. My guess is that she confronted him sometime that day about the affair with a friend and the divorce. If this was the case then the premeditation theory could have happened. Giving him time to plan / stew while she was at the party. JMO

[fran]

Hello Close !

You know that party Nancy went to Friday night - she may have found out some things and decided to confront him with those things that night. It's possible. He was supposedly seen at the store buying stuff before the time he said she went for her run. I have a bad feeling...

I'm not 'close,' but someone from the party said Nancy wasn't doing too well at the party that night. They asked her if she was ok, and she told them she was just tired.

I contend, IMHO, that she was most likely in an argument with hubby and didn't want to go into it at the party with her friend.

That's just me,
fran

[fran]

What happens next time he gets the urge to kill?

See "Drew Peterson".

imo

See, stillblv,.........that's exactly it! A few years ago, I might have thought they'd never do it again!

But how many of these cases have we seen, where the guy doesn't get caught until the 2nd or even 3rd time. THEN LE starts thinking there's something fishy. Especially if it's the same manor of death.

These guys, what are they thinking?:waitasec:

Disposable wife, just like a Bic lighter!?:eek:


:mad:
JMHO
fran

[raisincharlie]

I am thinking some type of argument or confrontation started before the party, thus the friends reporting her not feeling well or looking good at the party. My guess is that she confronted him sometime that day about the affair with a friend and the divorce. If this was the case then the premeditation theory could have happened. Giving him time to plan / stew while she was at the party. JMO

Entirely possible. Very sad.

ETA - was he not invited to the party or just didn't go - if anyone knows ?

[wufdude]

I think that one of Brad's past roommates was on last night if so would you happen to know if Brad was "into" NCSU Football?

Regarding his association with NC State, I'd say it's far different than Jason Young's. Cooper only got an MBA there and thus, most likely had not real ties to the rest of the university or its extracurricular activities, unlike the Youngs who went for undergrad, Michelle cheered, etc.

[calidreamin]

See, stillblv,.........that's exactly it! A few years ago, I might have thought they'd never do it again!

But how many of these cases have we seen, where the guy doesn't get caught until the 2nd or even 3rd time. THEN LE starts thinking there's something fishy. Especially if it's the same manor of death.

These guys, what are they thinking?:waitasec:

Disposable wife, just like a Bic lighter!?:eek:


:mad:
JMHO
fran

Hi fran:blowkiss:. I don't know what these men are thinking either. They seem to think people are disposible, it is just sickening.

[kellis06]

I am thinking some type of argument or confrontation started before the party, thus the friends reporting her not feeling well or looking good at the party. My guess is that she confronted him sometime that day about the affair with a friend and the divorce. If this was the case then the premeditation theory could have happened. Giving him time to plan / stew while she was at the party. JMO
Also thinking that unfortunatley ( I hope they haven't) the kids probably heard some of the arguing or God forbid the actual act. I do not see anything that syas the kids were any where but at the house during this time frame.

[RoughlyCollie]

A while back, someone posted a link to a blog which stated that a lot of people knew that Brad was having an affair, allegedly with one of Nancy's friends, or at least someone she knew, IIRC.


I'll wait until a GF and insurance come up, THEN............all bets are off!

fran

[RoughlyCollie]

FWIW, premeditation and planning are not the same thing. Premeditation can take place in a 'twinkling of an eye'.

[stillblv]

I just listened to a phone interview that Fox News did with Brad Cooper on Monday. He sounded very distraught and said that she would never leave. Also - he said when she ran she was sometimes gone 1 to 2 hours and she took NOTHING with her on her runs. No phone, no water, nothing.

[MCDRAW]

So did Brad not attend the party with Nancy?

[calidreamin]

So did Brad not attend the party with Nancy?

I read somewhere that she went to the party and he stayed home.

[MCDRAW]

I'm not 'close,' but someone from the party said Nancy wasn't doing too well at the party that night. They asked her if she was ok, and she told them she was just tired.

I contend, IMHO, that she was most likely in an argument with hubby and didn't want to go into it at the party with her friend.

That's just me,
fran


Someone mentioned poison. I too wonder if he hadn't been poisoning her.

[MCDRAW]

I read somewhere that she went to the party and he stayed home.


Thanks. I missed that.

[nanandjim]

...he said when she ran she was sometimes gone 1 to 2 hours and she took NOTHING with her on her runs. No phone, no water, nothing.
I was an avid, long-distance runner for years. I find nothing suspicious about her being gone for an hour or two and not taking anything with her. What I find suspicious is he didn't go looking for her or call the police when she was gone for hours on end. IMO, he may have been at home cleaning the house of any and all incriminating evidence. If he bought bleach at 4 a.m., this is a big red flag.

[cheko1]

I'm still trying to play catch up here.....I seen this on NG & my first thoughts were Brad did it. I'm sure there is a hefty life ins policy on her & he would be the only one to benefit from her death.

Before I even read here I thought the look on Brad's face was the same as Bobby Cutts used!!!!

[Happy2bme]

Hi all! Newbie here. I decided to join here since IS is still down. Seems to be some friendly folks here.

[Tia]

Someone mentioned poison. I too wonder if he hadn't been poisoning her.


I wondered that too.

Its either that or she was ill from finding out he was cheating with her friend.

I think I'd appear equally as ill from either

[MCDRAW]

I wondered that too.

Its either that or she was ill from finding out he was cheating with her friend.

I think I'd appear equally as ill from either


Me too!

[stillblv]

I was an avid, long-distance runner for years. I find nothing suspicious about her being gone for an hour or two and not taking anything with her. What I find suspicious is he didn't go looking for her or call the police when she was gone for hours on end. IMO, he may have been at home cleaning the house of any and all incriminating evidence. If he bought bleach at 4 a.m., this is a big red flag.


I was just amazed that she didn't even take water! But then again, I am not a runner.

[raisincharlie]

Fox news is sure following this case. Just reported that two detectives have just brought out 6 evidence bags from the house but the majority remain inside the home. They hve looked inside the BMW suv in the drive through the windows but have not removed it or entered it at this time.

Another oddity, Brad Cooper's family in Medicine Hat were not aware Nancy was even missing until Tuesday. Brother is on the way.

http://www.medicinehatnews.com/content/view/35911/65/

Very strange - too distraught to even call his own family ? Hmmmm

[murdershewrote]

How old are her children? I know they're pretty young but I wonder if an expert LE child psychologist could determine when the last time the kids saw or heard their mother in the house. Did they hear her get up to go jogging, did she prepare their breakfast...that sort of thing. Kids usually get up early and seek out their mothers.

I just don't believe she ever went jogging that morning.

[raisincharlie]

How old are her children? I know they're pretty young but I wonder if an expert LE child psychologist could determine when the last time the kids saw or heard their mother in the house. Did they hear her get up to go jogging, did she prepare their breakfast...that sort of thing. Kids usually get up early and seek out their mothers.

I just don't believe she ever went jogging that morning.

The children are ages 4 and 2.

[Topsail Girl]

Fox news is sure following this case. Just reported that two detectives have just brought out 6 evidence bags from the house but the majority remain inside the home. They hve looked inside the BMW suv in the drive through the windows but have not removed it or entered it at this time.

Another oddity, Brad Cooper's family in Medicine Hat were not aware Nancy was even missing until Tuesday. Brother is on the way.

http://www.medicinehatnews.com/content/view/35911/65/

Very strange - too distraught to even call his own family ? Hmmmm

Boy oh boy would I love to know what is in those evidence bags!! I can't wait till the search warrants are released to the public.

[murdershewrote]

so at that age, they certainly could tell someone last time they saw mommy.

[Lucy's mom]

Fox news is sure following this case. Just reported that two detectives have just brought out 6 evidence bags from the house but the majority remain inside the home. They hve looked inside the BMW suv in the drive through the windows but have not removed it or entered it at this time.

Another oddity, Brad Cooper's family in Medicine Hat were not aware Nancy was even missing until Tuesday. Brother is on the way.

http://www.medicinehatnews.com/content/view/35911/65/

Very strange - too distraught to even call his own family ? Hmmmm
Now that makes absolutely no sense to me. My family would most likely be the first I would call if my husband was missing...and then of course my husband's family right after. Yet how could we expect him to call his family if he couldn't even call 911. Again, not calling his family makes no sense unless you're hiding something and don't wnat your family to know.

[miss lisa]

I wondered that too.

Its either that or she was ill from finding out he was cheating with her friend.

I think I'd appear equally as ill from either

I doubt it was poisioning.

More likely the cheating (friend or not). It is totally crippling whether it is the first time or just one of many.... Had she lived she would have never been emotionally the same. Speaking from my own experience.

[Topsail Girl]

I wonder if Nancy's friend had not called the police just how long would Brad have gone before he finally called. I would think he couldn't keep pushing it because sooner or later someone would come looking for her.

[nanandjim]

I'm thinking if he had to actually go to a store to buy items to clean up, it was probably not exactly a premeditated murder. More an arguement that got way out of control possibly. :behindbar
Or, Nancy fought back and the struggle/actual murder was harder than he anticipated.

[raisincharlie]

Or, Nancy fought back and the struggle/actual murder was harder than he anticipated.

I sure hope she fought back but I suspect she had no chance. This Brad guy is heavy into the iron man competitions. He rather fancies himself as a bit of a superman.

[nanandjim]

I was just amazed that she didn't even take water! But then again, I am not a runner.
If she was going to be gone an hour, you don't need water. I used to run in very hot climates. Sometimes, I would drink from hoses that I happened to see along the route. However, it's not hot early in the morning. She probably would be only gone an hour. You can get water when you get home.

That said, I don't think that she went out running that morning. I think that he killed her the night before and that he dumper her at 3 a.m. before he got to the store. He spent the rest of the time cleaning the house. I believe that there was a struggle there. I hope that, if Brad is the murderer, he is brought to justice. So sad...once again...

[nanandjim]

I sure hope she fought back but I suspect she had no chance. This Brad guy is heavy into the iron man competitions. He rather fancies himself as a bit of a superman.
I agree, but she looks like she is in good shape, too. I know that I would be fighting back. I wonder if there really are scratches on his arms.

[calidreamin]

Hi all! Newbie here. I decided to join here since IS is still down. Seems to be some friendly folks here.

Welcome to websleuths Happy2bme. Folks are very friendly here.:)

[calidreamin]

Fox news is sure following this case. Just reported that two detectives have just brought out 6 evidence bags from the house but the majority remain inside the home. They hve looked inside the BMW suv in the drive through the windows but have not removed it or entered it at this time.

Another oddity, Brad Cooper's family in Medicine Hat were not aware Nancy was even missing until Tuesday. Brother is on the way.

http://www.medicinehatnews.com/content/view/35911/65/

Very strange - too distraught to even call his own family ? Hmmmm

Thank you for the info raisincharlie. It is very odd that his family didn't know till tuesday.

[raisincharlie]

I agree, but she looks like she is in good shape, too. I know that I would be fighting back. I wonder if there really are scratches on his arms.

Hope so - the scratches, and if Nancy made them - sure hope his DNA is under her fingernails in a quantity suffiecient to rule out casual contact with him. Since Wake County is assisting with this investigation, I would sure like to see them solve this case to renew some hope for Michelle's case.

But you know LE has to be focusing on him - how else could they stand before the public and declare this murder was not a random murder ? Sure hope that isn't the standard line for LE - heard it before, soon to be two years ago. That evil murderer is still free and moving on with his life.

[Sweetyhide]

She could have not felt well from crohn's (the friends statement that she didn't feel well) and stress can certianly aggrevate this condition.
Just a thought.
I know plenty of people with crohn's. Some have very little issues with it, others it changed their whole lives.

[fran]

Hi all! Newbie here. I decided to join here since IS is still down. Seems to be some friendly folks here.

:Welcome-12-june:

[fran]

I agree, but she looks like she is in good shape, too. I know that I would be fighting back. I wonder if there really are scratches on his arms.

It's been reported that he does have scratches on his arms. He has been wearing long sleeved shirts the past couple of days.

One of the first days when he was out searching, he was scratching his arms etc., and there was some speculation he may have gotten poison ivy and some posters speculated he was trying to scratch his arms up to hide what may have already been there.

JMHO
fran

[stillblv]

If she was going to be gone an hour, you don't need water. I used to run in very hot climates. Sometimes, I would drink from hoses that I happened to see along the route. However, it's not hot early in the morning. She probably would be only gone an hour. You can get water when you get home.

That said, I don't think that she went out running that morning. I think that he killed her the night before and that he dumper her at 3 a.m. before he got to the store. He spent the rest of the time cleaning the house. I believe that there was a struggle there. I hope that, if Brad is the murderer, he is brought to justice. So sad...once again...


Yep - I don't think she went running either. All of the news stories say that because that's what Brad said. It'll be interesting to find out what she was wearing when she was found. If your scenario is true, would he have dressed her in jogging clothes and then placed her body?

[fran]

Now that makes absolutely no sense to me. My family would most likely be the first I would call if my husband was missing...and then of course my husband's family right after. Yet how could we expect him to call his family if he couldn't even call 911. Again, not calling his family makes no sense unless you're hiding something and don't wnat your family to know.

He may not have wanted to call his family because, IF he's lying, they might be able to tell from past experience.

Just speculatin' :rolleyes:

fran

[fran]

If she was going to be gone an hour, you don't need water. I used to run in very hot climates. Sometimes, I would drink from hoses that I happened to see along the route. However, it's not hot early in the morning. She probably would be only gone an hour. You can get water when you get home.

That said, I don't think that she went out running that morning. I think that he killed her the night before and that he dumper her at 3 a.m. before he got to the store. He spent the rest of the time cleaning the house. I believe that there was a struggle there. I hope that, if Brad is the murderer, he is brought to justice. So sad...once again...

FWIW, per NG's show last night, Nancy's normal MO for a run, was to drive to a local spot, (i believe some type of coffee house), meet up with a friend and go jogging from there. But, this time she did NOT do that, allegedly left home on foot. PLUS, she was found NOT in her normal running trails that her husband said she normally went.

ALSO, her husband said she went running with a person he did not know. (can't remember the name) Her normal running mate didn't know that person either. She'd heard the name, but didn't know they're phone number.

Just like Lisa Stebic who 'left with someone unknown.' :eek:

JMHO
fran

[Magister]

Thank you for the info raisincharlie. It is very odd that his family didn't know till tuesday.

Technically, the Medicine Hat article says that the brother didn't find out until Tuesday (the day the case was upgraded from a missing person). The father is already "out of the country" (in the US?) and the article doesn't mention whether his brother was sitting by the phone prior to receiving the news.

And to another previous commenter: Reports are that Nancy had just returned from a vacation with her parents, so if there had been trouble, it'd make sense that she may have run to them. Though, my money is that the Cary PD is more likely to be the ones to contact her family, back while it was a missing person and just as a means to rule it out.

[JDB]

Fox news is sure following this case. Just reported that two detectives have just brought out 6 evidence bags from the house but the majority remain inside the home. They hve looked inside the BMW suv in the drive through the windows but have not removed it or entered it at this time.

Another oddity, Brad Cooper's family in Medicine Hat were not aware Nancy was even missing until Tuesday. Brother is on the way.

http://www.medicinehatnews.com/content/view/35911/65/

Very strange - too distraught to even call his own family ? Hmmmm

Welcome to the twilight zone.Brad on Phone with FOX acting distraught HMMM Can we say Sott Peterson. Own family not knowing till 3 days later Once again SP.
An affair only difference this was with her freind.

[jilly]

Hi all! Newbie here. I decided to join here since IS is still down. Seems to be some friendly folks here.

:applause::newbie: I agree - friendly folk here....and super moderating!:gomods:

[stillblv]

FWIW, per NG's show last night, Nancy's normal MO for a run, was to drive to a local spot, (i believe some type of coffee house), meet up with a friend and go jogging from there. But, this time she did NOT do that, allegedly left home on foot. PLUS, she was found NOT in her normal running trails that her husband said she normally went.

ALSO, her husband said she went running with a person he did not know. (can't remember the name) Her normal running mate didn't know that person either. She'd heard the name, but didn't know they're phone number.

Just like Lisa Stebic who 'left with someone unknown.' :eek:

JMHO
fran


I believe they said the name of who she supposedly went running with was Carrie or Cary.

[momto3kids]

A little update... I went to the site where Nancy was found to see if anyone had started leaving flowers, wreath, notes, etc. There was not. The problem I encountered is there are 2 cul-de-sacs that do not have a street sign yet. Both of the silt basins appear close in size, the white plastic in the same location, etc, so I did not want to start a memorial on the wrong one.

All the silt basins have the white plasic, so it was not there covering her like some thought it might be. The basins are not deep at all, they are a run off and temporary until a certain portion of the building is completed then they can be filled in.

Her home is surrounded with police, tv cameras, many cars, and of course yellow tape. I pass her home on almost a daily basis and today is no exception heading out on my normal route.

I have to say I am still very confused as and IF it is Brad how he knew of this undeveloped area to go to if he had not scoped it first.
Reason 1: Holly Springs Rd is absolutely not a road to jog (if he jogs) for any reason with its narrow roads, speed, hills and curves, etc.
Reason 2: He would have no absolutely no reason to head off Cary Pkwy in that direction for gas, groceries, resturants, work, etc.
Reason 3: The entrance to the new section is 1/2 mile behind an older home section that many would not even know about.

The only thing I can think of they might have friends in there and be aware of it. I don't know if at one time they might been looking to build in there. There are many new subdivisions going up around my home within a mile and I don't know what is going on within them, especially if it is in an opposite direction for me.

Being there today, all the activity occuring right outside the cul de sac, home being built, trucks, shallow water,etc So now I wonder if possible just possible premeditated by husband?

[raisincharlie]

Technically, the Medicine Hat article says that the brother didn't find out until Tuesday (the day the case was upgraded from a missing person). The father is already "out of the country" (in the US?) and the article doesn't mention whether his brother was sitting by the phone prior to receiving the news.

And to another previous commenter: Reports are that Nancy had just returned from a vacation with her parents, so if there had been trouble, it'd make sense that she may have run to them. Though, my money is that the Cary PD is more likely to be the ones to contact her family, back while it was a missing person and just as a means to rule it out.

Can't think of any reason the brother would be sitting by the phone if he didn't find out about Nancy being missing until four days after she went missing. If the parents would have know do you think they would not have told the brother ? I think they would have told as soon as they found out - out of the country or not. My bet is no one in the family knew squat.

[luckyme]

A little update... I went to the site where Nancy was found to see if anyone had started leaving flowers, wreath, notes, etc. There was not. The problem I encountered is there are 2 cul-de-sacs that do not have a street sign yet. Both of the silt basins appear close in size, the white plastic in the same location, etc, so I did not want to start a memorial on the wrong one.

All the silt basins have the white plasic, so it was not there covering her like some thought it might be. The basins are not deep at all, they are a run off and temporary until a certain portion of the building is completed then they can be filled in.

Her home is surrounded with police, tv cameras, many cars, and of course yellow tape. I pass her home on almost a daily basis and today is no exception heading out on my normal route.

I have to say I am still very confused as and IF it is Brad how he knew of this undeveloped area to go to if he had not scoped it first.
Reason 1: Holly Springs Rd is absolutely not a road to jog (if he jogs) for any reason with its narrow roads, speed, hills and curves, etc.
Reason 2: He would have no absolutely no reason to head off Cary Pkwy in that direction for gas, groceries, resturants, work, etc.
Reason 3: The entrance to the new section is 1/2 mile behind an older home section that many would not even know about.

The only thing I can think of they might have friends in there and be aware of it. I don't know if at one time they might been looking to build in there. There are many new subdivisions going up around my home within a mile and I don't know what is going on within them, especially if it is in an opposite direction for me.

Being there today, all the activity occuring right outside the cul de sac, home being built, trucks, shallow water,etc So now I wonder if possible just possible premeditated by husband?

thanks mom! he is an architect right? just me thinking outloud.

[calidreamin]

A little update... I went to the site where Nancy was found to see if anyone had started leaving flowers, wreath, notes, etc. There was not. The problem I encountered is there are 2 cul-de-sacs that do not have a street sign yet. Both of the silt basins appear close in size, the white plastic in the same location, etc, so I did not want to start a memorial on the wrong one.

All the silt basins have the white plasic, so it was not there covering her like some thought it might be. The basins are not deep at all, they are a run off and temporary until a certain portion of the building is completed then they can be filled in.

Her home is surrounded with police, tv cameras, many cars, and of course yellow tape. I pass her home on almost a daily basis and today is no exception heading out on my normal route.

I have to say I am still very confused as and IF it is Brad how he knew of this undeveloped area to go to if he had not scoped it first.
Reason 1: Holly Springs Rd is absolutely not a road to jog (if he jogs) for any reason with its narrow roads, speed, hills and curves, etc.
Reason 2: He would have no absolutely no reason to head off Cary Pkwy in that direction for gas, groceries, resturants, work, etc.
Reason 3: The entrance to the new section is 1/2 mile behind an older home section that many would not even know about.

The only thing I can think of they might have friends in there and be aware of it. I don't know if at one time they might been looking to build in there. There are many new subdivisions going up around my home within a mile and I don't know what is going on within them, especially if it is in an opposite direction for me.

Being there today, all the activity occuring right outside the cul de sac, home being built, trucks, shallow water,etc So now I wonder if possible just possible premeditated by husband?

Thank you for the update mom. It could be premeditated but I am not sure. If he was out buying bleach at 4 in the morning then I would lean towards a fight and he killed her.

[Aimee729]

Where is Medicine Hat??? Previous articles said he (Brad)was from Canada also. Where does his family live? Is his mother still living- and what kind of relationship does he have with her?? I think there are some dys- in the function of his family or maybe I am naive- but if your child murders their spouse, are you completely shocked that they could do something like this? Or...is there something in the back of your mind that makes you realize they are capable of this kind of heinous act?

[luckyme]

Where is Medicine Hat??? Previous articles said he (Brad)was from Canada also. Where does his family live? Is his mother still living- and what kind of relationship does he have with her?? I think there are some dys- in the function of his family or maybe I am naive- but if your child murders their spouse, are you completely shocked that they could do something like this? Or...is there something in the back of your mind that makes you realize they are capable of this kind of heinous act?

and to include the sister in law said she never met nancy :confused:

[nanandjim]

... My bet is no one in the family knew squat.
I agree. You have to once again ask yourself, "Does this sound like what a normal person would do?" I can tell you that I would have gone looking for my "jogging" husband first. I would have called his friends to see if he stopped by. Then, I would have called police. Then, I would have called all of my relatives. I would be frantic.

Now, if I went out running and was gone for eight hours, my husband would be in the media room and none the wiser. He would come up and wonder where I was. I'm not sure what he would do...

[Magister]

Where is Medicine Hat???

Medicine Hat is in Alberta, Canada. It's Brad's home town and I understand that Nancy was from Edmonton (which I believe is the capital of Alberta, but I'm not really up on my Canadian).

[calidreamin]

and to include the sister in law said she never met nancy :confused:

I read that article and was shocked when the sister in law said that! Maybe he wasn't close to his family.:confused:

[raeann]

My husband is frequently called upon to be an expert witness in court trials, sometimes for the plaintiff and sometimes for the defendant. No matter what side he is requested by, I always discuss the case with him and argue against his opinions (Partly to be annoying, and partly to prepare him for what the opposing attorney might question him on). So, I thought I would do the same here and play devil's advocate since EVERYONE seems to have tried, convicted and placed on death row the prime suspect in this case.

Other possible suspects:

1. The hard to find Carrie, the supposed running partner, both the friend who reported Nancy missing and Brad said that they knew of her but not much about her, phone number, last name etc.

2. A current or former partner in one of Brad's alleged affairs.

3. IF Brad had affairs as alleged for a long period of time, that does not exclude the possibility of Nancy having one also. This would add the possibility of a man whom she had a relationship with, but had broken it off. AND/OR

4. The wife or ex-wife of someone that Nancy had possibly had an affair with.

5. A person within the running community who might have had a crush on Nancy and whom she had rejected.

6. Any person who had been involved in an affair with either Brad or Nancy and feared they would be publicly exposed during a divorce and custody battle.

Those are just a few of the possibilities I would argue, even though it looks pretty bad for Brad right now. However, I also find it hard to believe the rumor about the detergent with bleach. It seems unlikely that a teenage store employee would be randomly invited into the police viewing of the security tapes, and then allowed to go out and discuss that evidence with whomever they choose. Extremely questionable police work if this really happened, and all else points to LE being very cautious and responsible about letting information out on this case.

[Tia]

I read that article and was shocked when the sister in law said that! Maybe he wasn't close to his family.:confused:

You'd think they would have at least met at either one of their weddings!
There must be more to that story as well. Maybe they knew what he was all about.

[jilly]

Medicine Hat is in Alberta, Canada. It's Brad's home town and I understand that Nancy was from Edmonton (which I believe is the capital of Alberta, but I'm not really up on my Canadian).

That's correct. Edmonton is north of Calgary and Medicine Hat is southeast of Calgary towards Saskatchewan.

ETA - here's a map

http://www.watertoninfo.ab.ca/mapab.html

[JDB]

thanks mom! he is an architect right? just me thinking outloud.

I don't think he is. I do know he works for cisco:crazy:

[Aimee729]

My family would first be shocked that I was out jogging, second think I had twisted my ankle or passed out from the heat and come looking for me or at least hunted me up when it was time for their next meal. =)

[Magister]

You'd think they would have at least met at either one of their weddings!
There must be more to that story as well. Maybe they knew what he was all about.

Not to be a wet blanket, but we don't know how long his brother has been married or whether he eloped. For all we know, the brother may have had a quickie wedding last year and he may have called his family afterwards. We do seem to have an indication of how long Nancy and Brad were married, but again, we don't actually know the circumstances of their wedding.

[calidreamin]

You'd think they would have at least met at either one of their weddings!
There must be more to that story as well. Maybe they knew what he was all about.
You would think they would have. That just made my hinky meter go crazy when I heard that.

[CyberPro]

Hello All, I have been lurking here since yesterday. Excellent and enlightning discussions, very civil too, especially considering the subject matter.

I just got my account validated, but I have been busting at the seams to post!

I have not been following all that much of the TV coverage on this, but I live pretty close to where this happened. In fact, while I was not part of any organized search effort, I live only about a mile from Regency Park, which was supposedly a place Nancy liked to run. I happened to be out in the woods around this are on Saturday and Sunday, looking for Geocaches, and since I was aware of this Missing Person report, I was keeping my eyes open for any signs of her being in the area. I suspected possible foul play, so I was also looking for clothing items that were described.

I have been keeping up with the happenings via the web. I do have a couple of observations from my POV, being an IT professional.

1. There has been some mention of possible financial issues as being a cause of the marital stress. IMO, I doubt it! While no one outside the family is likely to know for sure, Brad is a CCIE and an MBA. For those who do not know what a CCIE is, it is a Cisco Certified Internetworking Expert. This is a VERY difficult to get certification, and requires a great deal of understanding and demonstrated expertise at how to configure Cisco products. This has to be proven in a hands on lab, you have to build the network to the specifications provided, and then you leave overnight. When you return, they have made changes to the network and broken it, and you have to find out what is wrong and correct it. While you are doing this, you are under observation by the proctor, and you are graded not only on your successful correction of the problems, but how well you used the tools and resources that you had available. This is subjective, but suffice it to say that I know some serious network folks, and they have taken the test a couple of times, but have yet to pass it. If you have a CCIE, you can EASILY make over 100k/year, even if you are dumb. I have heard of some contractor CCIE's who can make over 500k/year for taking an overseas assignment. If they were having financial issues, they were probably burning through some serious cash, and that is without even adding the MBA on top of it all.

2. You can never know for sure, but there was some mention of finding out what he researched on his computer. - This is always a possibility, and it is possible that he is using a computer similar to a Windows Vista system that was mentioned in one of his Blogs, but he could also be using a Linux system, and know how to cover his tracks pretty well, if he was thinking ahead that much. This is not to say that no data will be recovered, but it might not be as easy as it is in some cases. It is possible, but not likely, that he might know a lot about networks without understanding computers all that well, but again, not likely. FWIW, Cary PD recently started a Computer Crimes division, and have dedicated resources to delve into this issue.

3. Momof3, I am somewhat familiar with that area, but I live on the other side of Regency Park. Which store was he seen in? Was it a regular grocery store, or a convenience store?

I have got to hit to road for work now, but I will be back later this evening.

CyberPro

"Opinions expressed are strictly my own. Your opinions might be different, that is OK, you are entitled to be wrong if you wish." :Banane37:

[calidreamin]

I don't think he is. I do know he works for cisco:crazy:

Hi JDB do you know what cisco does? I'm just curios TIA!:)

[calidreamin]

Welcome to Websleuths CyberPro and that was a great first post. Thank you for the information.

[Pepper]

Can someone point me to where an affair was brought up? I'm trying to catch up on this thread, and keep seeing an affair mentioned, but can't find the first post on it, or where that info came from.

Thanks!

[Lilybug1]

They could be. They may want to take her home to canada but are waiting for the police to arrest someone. They are also probably trying to figure out who will care for the girls if the father is arrested.

It's really not up to them. Unfortunately, like the honeymoon scuba diving murderer husband, he's the husband so it's really up to him - unless he is arrested. I seriously doubt he is holding off on funeral arrangements until he gets arrested. He may just not care right now because he has over things to worry about or is genuinely overwhelmed.

Ditto for the girls - they can't take them away from their father unless the father is implicated in the killing or the father agrees.

[Sweetyhide]

Hi Cyber Pro!
Thanks for that insight.
If Brad is involved I don't think it has anything to do with money either.
Maybe not wanting to fail at his marriage...???
My guess is failure for him would be devestating.

Calidreamin, Cisco is an international networking co.- computers and such (my recollection)

[CyberPro]

Calidreamin,

Cisco invented Network Routing. This is the glue that holds networks, like the Internet, together. Without this, computers would be very limited in the distance that they could communicate to each other. This device allows a virtually unlimited length of network.

You might not know it, but I am almost certain that you are communicating across their devices when you are on the Internet.

CyberPro

[close_enough]

welcome CyberPro!!....thanks for the info, regarding his job & all.....i'm curious as to what type of store this was also....i heard a reporter asking the question about it, & i THINK they used the term "variety" store....so that could be something like a 24 hour Walgreens maybe???

trying to catch up here....

eta..found this, but i have no idea how close any of these are...just a stab in the dark....(isn't that the saying?)

http://local.yahoo.com/results?fr=dd-local-more&stx=24+hour+walgreens&csz=Cary%2C+NC

[Coolmomof4]

A little update...


Momto3kids, I have a question for you. I used to live in Cary, and I am confused as to wich Lochmere neighborhood/area the Coopers' lived. Is the older section off of Kildaire Farm Rd, that backs up to Holly Springs Rd, near Lilly Atkins, or is it the "newer" area right off Cary Parkway?

[calidreamin]

Calidreamin,

Cisco invented Network Routing. This is the glue that holds networks, like the Internet, together. Without this, computers would be very limited in the distance that they could communicate to each other. This device allows a virtually unlimited length of network.

You might not know it, but I am almost certain that you are communicating across their devices when you are on the Internet.

CyberPro

Wow that is really interesting thank you for letting me know. It is good to have you here!:)

[headndownstream]

Hello All, I believe I was here last year reading only, when Jessie Davis disappeared (Bobby Cutts?) So this time I registered. I've been wanting to reply so many times, but it took awhile to get approved/validated. Here are some random thoughts I've acquired as I've read these pages.

First, I don't watch Nancy Grace, but when I do want to, I don't know what time or even what station, so if someone could help me with that?

I remember Jessie's son was able to tell what happened to his mom and he was quite young. Wonder what their girls are saying? And I wonder where he is staying???/what Cisco is thinking. They have probably sunk a LOT of $$$ into this guy. Maybe even paid for his masters.

I was thinking, that if he is a runner, he must run the area too. Who knows where they go, but does anyone think he could have found the new housing development and remembered it was a secluded site while he was jogging?

I'm pretty sure I saw Brads father listed as a vise-president at what, a school/college? on one of the links posted here. Do I remember correctly it was the school where Brad got his masters?

Did anyone figure out if he was the person on the website listed where he is a motivational speaker/ and has books for sale? There were pictures that looked like him. ok, now I can't remember what else I wanted to comment on...

[close_enough]

Hi Close Enough!! Thanks for the welcome.
I am not positive if the body had been removed at that time but I am thinking it was and that this was just LE searching for evidence left at the site. If I am remembering correctly, it was close in the late evening when the body was reported being found and by the time reporters got to the scene and started interviewing LE it was dark. My guess is that the helicopter footage was taken the next morning while investigators where searching the scene. JMO

thanks for the response!...heck, i'd forgotten her body was found closer to dark...that makes sense that the footage was filmed the next morning.....

[athy]

i had to lauigh at my local news today. not that this situation is funny but the news anchor said the hubby isn't a POI then in a softer voice as though she was saying it to her partner...at least not yet he isn't.

[CyberPro]

Hi Cyber Pro!
Thanks for that insight.
If Brad is involved I don't think it has anything to do with money either.
Maybe not wanting to fail at his marriage...???
My guess is failure for him would be devestating.

Calidreamin, Cisco is an international networking co.- computers and such (my recollection)

Sweetyhide, I do stand by my thought that is was not financial stress, but OTOH, whatever assets he has would be divided about in half in the event of a divorce. Child Support and likely alimony would be on top of this. Cisco has been a pretty successful company, and I believe has some profit sharing, stock options/401k. So, let's just hypothetically say that their house was worth about $350K, and let's say he makes $150k and has a 401K of 200k. the actual values do not matter much at this point, but we can use those for argument's sake.

He would wind up with some personal property/effects which were gifts during the marrage, and any property that he brought into the marriage, but anything that was joint would be divided in half. His retirement plan would be attached, and he would get about 1/2 value of that. The home would either be sold and he would get half, or he might grant her that as part of settlement in exchange for other assets. On top of that, he would likely have to pay alimony and most assuredly child support. Any way you slice it, he is going to take a substantial financial hit. People have been killed for a lot less money in the past.

CyberPro

[close_enough]

Hello Close !

You know that party Nancy went to Friday night - she may have found out some things and decided to confront him with those things that night. It's possible. He was supposedly seen at the store buying stuff before the time he said she went for her run. I have a bad feeling...

yes, it's certainly possible, RC.....i also think Kellis is right about this 'confrontation' brewing...i'd say Nancy & Brad had been arguing a lot, since she was trying to get out of the marriage, & apparently he wouldn't leave the house....it's possible they were arguing prior to her leaving for