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SeriouslySearching
07-22-2008, 06:24 PM
Caylee Marie Anthony: Date of Birth: 8-9-05; Missing (Date unknown); Possible victim of a homicide.
Casey Anthony: 22 years old; Mother of Caylee; Arrested for Obstruction Of Justice and Endangerment Of A Child (Neglect); Currently being held in the Orange County Jail with bond set at $500,000.00 and conditions on release of a GPS monitoring device.
Cindy Anthony: Mother of Casey and Lee; Grandmother of Caylee; Married to George ; Resident of Orlando, FL; Lied to LE about date Caylee was last seen.
George Anthony: Married to Cindy; Father of Casey and Lee Anthony; Picked up towed vehicle; 10 years in LE ; Recently employed at a security company.
Lee Anthony: Brother to Casey; Son of Cindy & George Anthony; Present before LE was called into case for up to 1.5 hours; Took over websites; Employed since 1-06 and lives away from home.
Jesse Grund: Previously dated and was engaged to Casey; Claims to have heard Caylee in the background during phone call to Casey on June 24th; Cindy Anthony believes he is Caylee's biological father; Resigned his position in LE on June 24th.
Meridian
07-22-2008, 11:30 PM
Quick question ... for George Anthony you have "married to Cindy", as well as for Lee Anthony, you have "son of George and Cindy", but you don't refer to him as Casey's father, is he Casey's bio father? Thanks. (You can delete this question after answering, as I don't want to mess the thread up, just trying to get all the relationships straight).
SeriouslySearching
07-24-2008, 03:17 AM
Cindy's place of employment as a Registered Nurse: Cindy works for Gentiva (was at the bond hearing she said it. Also her nursing licsense has this address not her home address on it) as per Aimee's post.
CheckDaFacts
07-24-2008, 04:15 AM
So we have two or three time lines now to work on?
June 9th-15 gma/CASEY-GMA correction to last seeing Caylee now on the below date of Jun 15th
JUNE 15TH-24TH GMA correction via OPD Fathers day visit via Tuesdays bond hearing with Jesse - stating "he heard voice of Caylee via phone call with casey on 24th (get off table comment to Caylee by Casey")
JUNE 24TH- to July 15th official OPD report of Caylee missing and two or three unconfirmed sightings? One shortly after yesterdays bond hearing?
If Jesse is telling the truth about Caylee on the 24th of Jun, my question goes back to did she and Jesse get together as she desired on that weekend? Keep in mind Casey blurted out to her brother Lee in front of other's on the 15th of July. "She had not seen her daughter in 31 days!"
Which would be the 15th of June a Sunday and Fathers day when Caylee was allegedly last with GMA at the Nursing Center.
Jesse now throws Casey's time line off and GMA's time line is thrown off by proof from PD. I'm sorry but when was the yrd searched again?
CheckDaFacts
07-24-2008, 05:12 AM
Sorry the 15Th of June Nursing Center visit has a video not sure if it was time stamped and OPD checked the register for the visit then corrected GMA that she had seen Caylee after the original claim date of 8Th-9Th of Jun?
Interesting that Casey was counting days since she claimed to have last seen Caylee but that was all she did for her and that date actually meets up perfectly with GMA's taking Caylee to the Nursing Center on the 15th of June.
Lastly. GMA SAYS - SHE ALSO HEARD CAYLEE'S VOICE IN HER BDRM with Casey ON THE 16TH OF JUNE (Mon.) She heard not saw same as Jesse. The yrd search date is vital to the time line. If I recall right this was the 18th of July a Friday?
Why would Jesse lie about 24th of Jun phone call with Casey, too much at stake for him. He also admitted Casey was a habitual liar. Casey was leaving Caylee somewhere and or with someone between all the other dates as well. GMA was also upset with Casey prior to the 15th of June. I find it odd she never inquired of her grand daughter, what her time away from home was like? Odd because she is very protective and she never once verified where her very precious grand daughter spent the night when away and with whom, even on the 15th of Jun? No emergency numbers, nothing? Even odder is GPA was prior PD, how did he become so trusting?
Casey is angry with her mother that's clear but I have a feeling the Jesse call and desire plays very heavy in sweet Caylee's disappearance.
Would it be appropriate to post a list of "secondary" players on this thread? (Amy and her BF, ZG, etc?)
Ladybass0711
07-25-2008, 09:16 PM
Christine-----Friend of Casey
sugarbritches
07-27-2008, 10:10 AM
what about Tony...does anyone know his last name? Maybe it is already posted and I just missed it
olive
07-27-2008, 04:14 PM
Anthony Lazzarro... That is "Tony" who is Casey's boyfriend.
Zenaida Gonzalez: Alleged babysitter
Amy Huizenga: person who told Cindy where Casey could be found on the evening of the 15th. Claims that Casey picked her up at the airport around 1430 hrs on July 15th in her (Amy's) car. Amy had loaned the defendant her car for the week she was gone. Amy claims the defendant stole some checks and approximately $700.
Ricardo Morales: Amy lives with Ricardo Morales at 232 Glenwood Drive.
Patience
07-30-2008, 10:51 AM
Who Are The Players in The Caylee Saga?
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7092429&version=5&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) -- It’s been two weeks and two year old Caylee Marie is still missing.
While not much has happened several players in the case have emerged.
Mom Casey Anthony, her babysitter, Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales and Casey’s friends, Jeff Hopkins and Juliet Lewis.
Anthony told police she worked with Jeff and Juliet at Kodak, at Universal Studios and said she told them Caylee was missing.
Detectives have said all along that Anthony is the key to tracking down Caylee.
VIDEO: --The players in the disappearance of Caylee (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7090365&version=1&locale=EN-US)
Patrick Bourgeois, a man who claimed to attend high school with Casey. Visited her in jail on July 24(?) Casey had trouble remembering who he was and had little to say during their conversation, which lasted less than 2-minutes.
believe09
07-30-2008, 08:26 PM
Hi, all-have we gotten any verification that Morales was indeed Casey's ex? When did she date him? Was he an ex-cop? Is he a cop? Does he have relatives in PR? Can anyone get me a b/d or full name for him?-you can PM it...
THANKS
Patience
07-30-2008, 09:35 PM
Hi, all-have we gotten any verification that Morales was indeed Casey's ex? When did she date him? Was he an ex-cop? Is he a cop? Does he have relatives in PR? Can anyone get me a b/d or full name for him?-you can PM it...
THANKS
This is what I could find on Morales...
http://glosslip.com/2008/07/29/the-mystery-of-caylee-anthonys-disappearance-continues-web-of-lies-grows-wild/
The dates presented here are based on police files, court documents, Internet accounts, and witness statements.
June 9 – Between 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m., Casey Anthony allegedly drops Caylee off with her nanny, Zenaida Hernandez-Gonzalez, at the Sawgrass Apartments on South Conway Road.
Casey moves out of her parent’s house and in with her ex-boyfriend, Ricardo Morales, and friend, Amy Huizenga.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/timeline-of-eve.html
believe09
07-31-2008, 09:41 AM
This is what I could find on Morales...
http://glosslip.com/2008/07/29/the-mystery-of-caylee-anthonys-disappearance-continues-web-of-lies-grows-wild/
The dates presented here are based on police files, court documents, Internet accounts, and witness statements.
June 9 – Between 9:00 a.m. and 1:00 p.m., Casey Anthony allegedly drops Caylee off with her nanny, Zenaida Hernandez-Gonzalez, at the Sawgrass Apartments on South Conway Road.
Casey moves out of her parent’s house and in with her ex-boyfriend, Ricardo Morales, and friend, Amy Huizenga.
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2008/07/timeline-of-eve.html
Thank you-so we have someone who has not made it onto the radar yet-think of how much we have discovered regarding Jesse and Tony....why not Ricardo?
krimekat
07-31-2008, 02:27 PM
Rick Morales = knew Casey is unreliable, knew she had a baby & the father was dead
Jeff Hopkins = did not know Casey well, did not introduce Casey to the "Nanny"
Per Fox News just moments ago
AlwaysShocked
07-31-2008, 02:55 PM
Is Jeff Hopkins one of her supposed co-workers at her non-existant job?
CarolineJ
07-31-2008, 04:11 PM
Cindy mentioned Jeff Hopkins in one of her interviews, or perhaps when she was on the stand. She said that she thought Casey was off in Jacksonville working with Jeff Hopkins for a couple of weeks.
krimekat
07-31-2008, 04:13 PM
Cindy mentioned JH on the stand
krimekat
07-31-2008, 05:22 PM
Casey Anthony, her babysitter, Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales and Casey’s friends, Jeff Hopkins and Juliet Lewis.
Anthony told police she worked with Jeff and Juliet at Kodak, at Universal Studios and said she told them Caylee was missing.
Detectives have said all along that Anthony is the key to tracking down Caylee.
Anthony said she left Caylee with a babysitter- Zenaida- and that Anthony told two other people about Caylee missing.
Anthony said Jeffrey Hopkins and Juliet Lewis are the two people she told about Caylees disappearance. In a phone conversation, Anthony’s brother Lee posed the same question. But detectives are having trouble tracking down the three people connected with Casey.
“I know they know of these people,” Deputy Carlos Padilla of the Orange County Sheriffs Office said. “I haven’t talked to detectives today so I don’t if they’ve tracked them down. I’m assuming they’re trying to get them.”
We were able to track down a Jeffrey Hopkins Senior who also has a son named Jeffrey Hopkins. According to the elder Hopkins, they know the Anthony family and were asked by the family not to talk. But he said off camera, that his son worked for Universal Studios in high school. And he insisted that Anthony and his son never dated and has never met Caylee.
Deputy Padilla said detectives have talked to the family, but so far found no relevant information. Only a few days ago, the family said Lee Anthony told Hopkins it was another Jeffrey Hopkins in Orlando.
As for Juliet Lewis, we made several attempts at finding her. After more than a dozen calls we still have not located her. So far, we are told detectives haven’t tracked her down either. Nor have detectives been able to track down the babysitter Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez.
"I know they’re looking into everything that’s involving this case,” said Deputy Padilla. “But again, I don’t know what detectives have. I would have to get to them and see if they’ll release that to me I don’t know if they actually have what she’s mentioned on the phone call.”
nursebeeme
08-01-2008, 11:14 AM
Grandpa
~snip~
"Sheriff Thomas Altiere remembers George Anthony as a good officer.
"GEORGE AND I WERE PARTNERS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. WE WORKED TOGETHER WE WERE DETECTIVES TOGETHER. AND HE BECAME A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. GREAT. SUPER GUY, LOVED HIS FAMILY, GOOD FAMILY GUY. IT'S GOT TO BE HARD ON HIM. ABSOLUTELY HARD. TERRIBLE."--Sheriff Thomas Altiere "
http://www.wytv.com/news/crawl/25944914.html
Alaska4959
08-02-2008, 03:08 PM
Patrick Bourgeois, a man who claimed to attend high school with Casey. Visited her in jail on July 24(?) Casey had trouble remembering who he was and had little to say during their conversation, which lasted less than 2-minutes.
Any way of proving they went to school together? Casey is just a few years out of high school and can't remember this guy? If they weren't close enough for her to remember him, why was he visiting her in jail?:waitasec:
whiteangora
08-02-2008, 09:34 PM
http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/508668.html?nav=5021
Article mentions George as a homicide detective.
not_my_kids
08-03-2008, 02:22 AM
For the record, Cindy is a nickname...full first name Cynthia, unless she uses an alias.
websurfer
08-03-2008, 10:54 AM
Caylee Marie Anthony
Casey Marie Anthony
Cindy Anthony
George Anthony
Lee Anthony
Grandpa [ Cindy's father who is in elderly facility]
Amy H
Carlos P
Kristina
Ricardo M
Mallory
Jessie G
Troy
Fuzzy Red Balloons
Fusion Ultra Lounge
Jeff H
Tony L
Patrick B
Frank B
Mike W
Nancy Grace
Geraldo
Amscot lot
Zenaida G/SIZE]
[SIZE=4]Zenaida O [ mother of JO ]
Jesus E. M [ died auto accident May 8,2007]
Chris S
Christine C
if anybody finda any more please add to this list.
this is to join some people and places in a generic fashion.just things that we have learned so far.
Patty G
08-03-2008, 01:03 PM
Jose Baez - Casey's attorney also Cindy's attorney admitted on video under "gas cans" thread
Carlos Padilla - Deputy Sheriff
Judge Stan Strickland
Universal
J Blanchard Park
Bella Vida Tattoo
CSI
DJ
Orlando Airport
Jacksonville
JBean
08-03-2008, 01:17 PM
But, I think there is already a sticky that is for this. Not trying to be a downer, but it does get confusing when there are too many threads about the same thing.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67812
coltsgal
08-03-2008, 01:29 PM
But, I think there is already a sticky that is for this. Not trying to be a downer, but it does get confusing when there are too many threads about the same thing.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67812
Yes, I was thinking the same thing.
websurfer
08-03-2008, 01:35 PM
http://www.facebook.com/people/Zenaida_Gonzalez/524517296
this is one from PR
josephsjordansr
08-04-2008, 12:39 AM
THe address in the affidavit that Casey took them to off of Conway Road belongs to Society Entertainment Derrick "Casanova" Williams... his couin is Korrie Williams who according the the Orange County Clerk of Courts was arrested June 30, 2008 for a felony arrest.
Korrie Williams
Meet KORE
Raised in the south Bronx Kore came up in an environment that was survive or die. It was really that serious, raised in one of the roughest project in the Bronx ny (Edenwald projects) KORE had to fight to survive. Just going to the store was an ordeal. Almost everyday KORE saw some sort of violence. He got involved in the streets and did thing that he isnt proud of but he needed to survive.
But that type of life soon caught up to him and he was robbed and stabbed 10 time. Both of his lung clasped and the doctors did not believe he would make it. But a miracle happened. Both of his lung inflated and he survive and made a full recovery. KORE believed that the lord gave him a second chance so he called his cousin who was doing it big in Orlando, fl and wanted to pursue his music career. He could alway sing and when he was younger attended the school of the performing arts but dropped out.
Now with his new deal with Society Music Group with the direction of is Cousin, Casanova Williams and Dr. Watkins (t-boz father) he is working on his solo project called "Born Again". Watch out for this guy. He is the perfect mix of soulful voice with energetic dance moves. The world isnt ready .
my2cents
08-04-2008, 12:45 AM
THe address in the affidavit that Casey took them to off of Conway Road belongs to Society Entertainment Derrick "Casanova" Williams... his couin is Korrie Williams who according the the Orange County Clerk of Courts was arrested June 30, 2008 for a felony arrest.
Korrie Williams
Meet KORE
Raised in the south Bronx Kore came up in an environment that was survive or die. It was really that serious, raised in one of the roughest project in the Bronx ny (Edenwald projects) KORE had to fight to survive. Just going to the store was an ordeal. Almost everyday KORE saw some sort of violence. He got involved in the streets and did thing that he isnt proud of but he needed to survive.
But that type of life soon caught up to him and he was robbed and stabbed 10 time. Both of his lung clasped and the doctors did not believe he would make it. But a miracle happened. Both of his lung inflated and he survive and made a full recovery. KORE believed that the lord gave him a second chance so he called his cousin who was doing it big in Orlando, fl and wanted to pursue his music career. He could alway sing and when he was younger attended the school of the performing arts but dropped out.
Now with his new deal with Society Music Group with the direction of is Cousin, Casanova Williams and Dr. Watkins (t-boz father) he is working on his solo project called "Born Again". Watch out for this guy. He is the perfect mix of soulful voice with energetic dance moves. The world isnt ready .
She actually took them to #212, Williams is listed to #210. He also moved 7/07 to a condo down the street on S. Conway. That was rehashed over on one of the general discussions. Now, who is this Kore guy? What link did you get this from? The Society Entertainment page?
josephsjordansr
08-04-2008, 12:48 AM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=12694735
Another Ms. Williams who is friends I don't know if her name is Rene but Korrie and Rene had some domestic violence issues recently and he is now arrested for Felony Second Degree Assault and Battery.
josephsjordansr
08-04-2008, 12:49 AM
She actually took them to #212, Williams is listed to #210. He also moved 7/07 to a condo down the street on S. Conway. That was rehashed over on one of the general discussions. Now, who is this Kore guy? What link did you get this from? The Society Entertainment page?
Korrie if you highlight the text you will see the text that is hidden because of the black background...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=152340127
my2cents
08-04-2008, 12:50 AM
One a side note--maybe you guys have talked about this...but I thought it may be a link to why Baez was retained as Casey's attorney.
If you go to her facebook page and look at her friends, you can click on R. Morales and see his friends. There are 3 Baez kids listed there. I do not know if Baez is a common last name down there, but I found it interesting.
my2cents
08-04-2008, 12:57 AM
Korrie if you highlight the text you will see the text that is hidden because of the black background...
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=152340127
Ok gotcha. Yeah we were all over "Cassanova" the other day but it pretty much led nowhere. Unless we can somehow link him (through myspace friends) to someone close to Casey.
IrishSweetOne
08-04-2008, 01:42 PM
http://www.facebook.com/people/Zenaida_Gonzalez/524517296
this is one from PR
I couldn't get in her page but did check out her friends , kinda funny how several of the friends last names pop up all over this case .
Baez
Fernandez
Morales
Gonzalez
MayMay
08-04-2008, 02:11 PM
I couldn't get in her page but did check out her friends , kinda funny how several of the friends last names pop up all over this case .
Baez
Fernandez
Morales
Gonzalez
I checked out her friends list and no one related to this case there
CitizenKim
08-07-2008, 11:14 PM
Zenaida Gonzalez: Alleged babysitter
Amy Huizenga: person who told Cindy where Casey could be found on the evening of the 15th. Claims that Casey picked her up at the airport around 1430 hrs on July 15th in her (Amy's) car. Amy had loaned the defendant her car for the week she was gone. Amy claims the defendant stole some checks and approximately $700.
Ricardo Morales: Amy lives with Ricardo Morales at 232 Glenwood Drive.
I'm curious to know more about Amy. She was very close to Casey and busted her to Cindy- could that have been guilt motivated and not just mad about stolen money?
Spycie
08-09-2008, 03:54 AM
:detective:
Are you sure she isn't actually speaking of someone who's office she may have robbed/burglarized on the same day thereabouts as the day her daughter went missing? Instead of a "babysitter" she dropped her child off to...Could she, "Caylee" have been possibly hurt while mom may have been committing another crime. Could you have been a victim of that crime...the robbery of Zenaida Gonzalez's office back in June? You wouldn't have to know her, but she would sure know your name.
________________________
Hear me out please. I got here through a simple name search following an ABC News.Com story as many others may have...But read this:
Please, for a moment...Check out this huge coincidence I found by just browsing the net (On the weekend of June 9th...the same day that Caylee Anthony was last known to have been seen), there was a robbery in Brevard County, FL of a Zenaida Gonzalez who writes on a forum that "she is not that Zenaida Gonzalez" in one post from July 18, 2008 ("the one who Casey Marie Anthony claims she dropped Caylee off to"). But she just may well have been totally unknowingly/unwittingly "The Zenaida Gonzalez" that Casey Marie Anthony actually speaks of, as far as a simple name she remembers all too well from the office door/computer(s) she may have actually robbed/burglarized.
There is a post dated Tuesday, June 10, 2008 down the page a bit further
(http://forums.brevardcountymoms.com/viewforum.php?f=57), posts 1 & 12
on the page are the ones I find are the strange ones that may relate in a roundabout manner. (Why has Casey Anthony been secretive to the point of lying about where she really works? Could she be a burglar/thief...Not something she'd actually like to admit to the police, I'd truly suspect).
Could Casey Marie Anthony (an alleged thief according to many friends listed in the police arrest report located at:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/952244/C...-Arrest-Report),
have actually committed the robbery/burglary of the office of that actual blogging/posting "Zenaida Gonzalez" and therefore remembers the name all too well?
As a Private Investigator myself, I can tell you a stolen computer would have the real owners name all over it, as did the office door according to the post by Zenaida Gonzalez. I find the date of the robbery (on or about June 9th, 2008 as described by the posting Zenaida Gonzalez, and the last known date of Caylee Anthony being known to be last seen of June 9th, 2008), a huge coincidence....Food for thought. But this info should be investigated further as to possible prints, etc left behind (possibly collected by authorities in the robbery/burglary?), in the office robbery as relates to the Mother/Suspect/arrested and in custody defendant in my opinion.
_____________________________
I know you may not have linked 1 to the other...But is it possible they are actually linked? Same State 2 different crimes...or even 1 crime, 2 circumstances leading to a huge cover-up because Caylee Anthony may have been/was hurt while mom was out committing another different crime.
Think about it for just 1 minute. Sure, I'm a CIS buff/fan...But sometimes life does imitate art and this is a huge coincidence...Exhaust all leads till the child is home safe or the truth is otherwise known, I say.
To help find the child, all leads must be exhausted no matter how trivial they may seem as not everything meets the eye in all cases such as these.
__________________________________________________ _______
I just looked it up on Yahoo Maps. Orlando, FL (where she lives) to Brevard County, FL (where I assume you live based on this web page and the local news link above), is only 53.5 miles center to center and less than an hours drive (56 minutes according to Yahoo w/ nice direct multiple highways and a borrowed car according to the Grandmother who's car it was she borrowed). Too close to be pure coincidence in my book.
http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=28....rlando%2C%20FL
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SeriouslySearching
08-09-2008, 04:08 AM
One a side note--maybe you guys have talked about this...but I thought it may be a link to why Baez was retained as Casey's attorney.
If you go to her facebook page and look at her friends, you can click on R. Morales and see his friends. There are 3 Baez kids listed there. I do not know if Baez is a common last name down there, but I found it interesting.Yes, that is very interesting! Good find!
josephsjordansr
08-09-2008, 09:58 PM
Actually to drive from Cocoa Beach to Where Casey lived and associated with people in East Orange County it is only a half hour drive... I do it daily...
:detective:
Are you sure she isn't actually speaking of someone who's office she may have robbed/burglarized on the same day thereabouts as the day her daughter went missing? Instead of a "babysitter" she dropped her child off to...Could she, "Caylee" have been possibly hurt while mom may have been committing another crime. Could you have been a victim of that crime...the robbery of Zenaida Gonzalez's office back in June? You wouldn't have to know her, but she would sure know your name.
________________________
Hear me out please. I got here through a simple name search following an ABC News.Com story as many others may have...But read this:
Please, for a moment...Check out this huge coincidence I found by just browsing the net (On the weekend of June 9th...the same day that Caylee Anthony was last known to have been seen), there was a robbery in Brevard County, FL of a Zenaida Gonzalez who writes on a forum that "she is not that Zenaida Gonzalez" in one post from July 18, 2008 ("the one who Casey Marie Anthony claims she dropped Caylee off to"). But she just may well have been totally unknowingly/unwittingly "The Zenaida Gonzalez" that Casey Marie Anthony actually speaks of, as far as a simple name she remembers all too well from the office door/computer(s) she may have actually robbed/burglarized.
There is a post dated Tuesday, June 10, 2008 down the page a bit further
(http://forums.brevardcountymoms.com/viewforum.php?f=57), posts 1 & 12
on the page are the ones I find are the strange ones that may relate in a roundabout manner. (Why has Casey Anthony been secretive to the point of lying about where she really works? Could she be a burglar/thief...Not something she'd actually like to admit to the police, I'd truly suspect).
Could Casey Marie Anthony (an alleged thief according to many friends listed in the police arrest report located at:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/952244/C...-Arrest-Report),
have actually committed the robbery/burglary of the office of that actual blogging/posting "Zenaida Gonzalez" and therefore remembers the name all too well?
As a Private Investigator myself, I can tell you a stolen computer would have the real owners name all over it, as did the office door according to the post by Zenaida Gonzalez. I find the date of the robbery (on or about June 9th, 2008 as described by the posting Zenaida Gonzalez, and the last known date of Caylee Anthony being known to be last seen of June 9th, 2008), a huge coincidence....Food for thought. But this info should be investigated further as to possible prints, etc left behind (possibly collected by authorities in the robbery/burglary?), in the office robbery as relates to the Mother/Suspect/arrested and in custody defendant in my opinion.
_____________________________
I know you may not have linked 1 to the other...But is it possible they are actually linked? Same State 2 different crimes...or even 1 crime, 2 circumstances leading to a huge cover-up because Caylee Anthony may have been/was hurt while mom was out committing another different crime.
Think about it for just 1 minute. Sure, I'm a CIS buff/fan...But sometimes life does imitate art and this is a huge coincidence...Exhaust all leads till the child is home safe or the truth is otherwise known, I say.
To help find the child, all leads must be exhausted no matter how trivial they may seem as not everything meets the eye in all cases such as these.
__________________________________________________ _______
I just looked it up on Yahoo Maps. Orlando, FL (where she lives) to Brevard County, FL (where I assume you live based on this web page and the local news link above), is only 53.5 miles center to center and less than an hours drive (56 minutes according to Yahoo w/ nice direct multiple highways and a borrowed car according to the Grandmother who's car it was she borrowed). Too close to be pure coincidence in my book.
http://maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=m&lat=28....rlando%2C%20FL
__________________________________________________ ________
josephsjordansr
08-09-2008, 11:42 PM
Raquel Farrel (Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales' Room Mate)
wanttohelp
08-09-2008, 11:48 PM
has anyone located jeffery hopkins yet? I believe I found his myspace, am I allowed to post this info? you wont find it by searching jeffrey hopkins. The one I found is private but its quote is about caylee.
wanttohelp
08-10-2008, 12:02 AM
yep she posted a thing promoting fusian 6-12. also people on the 22ish are saying come home jefferey....didnt casey tell her mom she was going to jacksonville with him....
olive
08-10-2008, 12:41 AM
has anyone located jeffery hopkins yet? I believe I found his myspace, am I allowed to post this info? you wont find it by searching jeffrey hopkins. The one I found is private but its quote is about caylee.
post it
wanttohelp
08-10-2008, 02:48 AM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=20346194
wanttohelp
08-10-2008, 02:49 AM
thanks, i made some notes for myself from the filed papers.
Raquel Farrel (Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales' Room Mate)
wanttohelp
08-10-2008, 03:55 AM
does this look like caylee?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=236396140
Amberjack
08-10-2008, 12:41 PM
Raquel Farrel (Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales' Room Mate)
All I could find was a 38 year old from Jacksonville, FL
liltigress
08-10-2008, 01:09 PM
Casey claims her boss at Universal is Tom Manley.
There is a Tom Manley associated with Kodak.
http://www.myspace.com/tom1271 <Tom Manley's MySpace Profile.
www.myspace.com/eiskodak <Kodak's MySpace Profile
Did anyone else find this before now? This is very interesting.
tiffertots
08-10-2008, 02:09 PM
interesting...Tom M hmmm
yet another player in the game??
I wonder if LE has looked into this...
wanttohelp
08-10-2008, 03:12 PM
yes I posted about this. In the myspace, facebook thread.
Maybe this one too I forget.
Casey claims her boss at Universal is Tom M.
There is a Tom M associated with Kodak.
http://www.myspace.com/tom1271 <Tom MMySpace Profile.
www.myspace.com/eiskodak <Kodak's MySpace Profile
Did anyone else find this before now? This is very interesting.
liltigress
08-10-2008, 10:35 PM
yes I posted about this. In the myspace, facebook thread.
Maybe this one too I forget.
Awesome! I can't believe no one has jumped on this information yet. I think I'll do some more digging into this.
Thinking_Out_Loud
08-11-2008, 09:18 PM
It's weird. When they mentioned Jeff H in the media for the first time, I found three on Casey's Myspace page. One you could not find by searching for his whole name. You had to search for his first name within her friends. He is also on her facebook and he has not locked that account yet.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=707917422&hiq=hopkins%2Cjeff&refurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fs.php%3Fq%3 Djeff%2Bhopkins%26n%3D-1%26k%3D400000000010%26sf%3Dr%26init%3Dq
The other two were only on Myspace. One was this g guy in his 30s. His background had a marijuanna leaf on it. The other was from Texas and he was in his 20s. I can't find these now. Can someone else post them?
wanttohelp
08-11-2008, 11:12 PM
Here is Jeff's, he has some interesting comments
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=20346194
FLjay
08-12-2008, 12:35 AM
...
[B]Grandpa [ Cindy's father who is in elderly facility]
...
Add in
(Great) Grandma [Cindy's mother -- no further info]
This is important now because of Cindy's assertion that the great grandmother had also received a call from Caylee after she was kidnapped.
http://www.wftv.com/news/17161366/detail.html -- posted by Adrienne37 at http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2485920#post2485920
Cindy said she shared new information with investigators Monday about Casey's phone records that she says shows Casey really did get a call from Caylee on July 15 from a "private number."
She's even claiming that Caylee's great grandmother heard from Caylee during the time she's been missing.
"We had a long conversation about that today. Some of the stuff that got leaked out is erroneous and they're looking at some of those things today," Cindy said.
"How did the person who had Caylee get your mother's phone number?" WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked.
"She was programmed into my daughter's phone," Cindy said.
IOW, not one, but two missing calls from phone record.
SelmaClue
08-12-2008, 10:35 AM
Are they suggesting that the kidnapper/babysitter also took Casey's telephone?
tttterri
08-12-2008, 11:06 AM
I hate to drop another name but who is Lauren and where is she? All I know is this: Cindy said Caseys best friend Lauren babysat alot during the first mths of Caylee's life. Casey stated she's known her babysitter for 4 yrs and that she was her babysitter for around a yr and a half. Lauren and Caseys relationship could possibly be that long. Casey stated that Caylee's sitter loved her very much. Casey stayed at Glenwood Apt a long time off and on even back in April according to myspace facebook comments. John P. C is owner of the apt and Ricardo, Amy and Casey have all lived there at times with JP. JP mentions Lauren a lot on his website and she possibly was his gf or even a roommate at some time. I still havent read any postings as to where JP or Ricardo have been for the dates starting in June on, nor did either call LE by the time the affidavit was written up for Casey. I read somewhere that it was stated that Ricardo and JP were not close friends of Casey, but she has sure been around them and in the same home a whole lot and even refers to Ricardo as her exbf.
Amberjack
08-12-2008, 11:10 AM
KYLE G
http://kylegagnierproductions.com/
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=100576783
Note words on his avatar
tttterri
08-12-2008, 11:38 AM
I hate to drop another name but who is Lauren and where is she? All I know is this: Cindy said Caseys best friend Lauren babysat alot during the first mths of Caylee's life. Casey stated she's known her babysitter for 4 yrs and that she was her babysitter for around a yr and a half. Lauren and Caseys relationship could possibly be that long. Casey stated that Caylee's sitter loved her very much. Casey stayed at Glenwood Apt a long time off and on even back in April according to myspace facebook comments. John P. C is owner of the apt and Ricardo, Amy and Casey have all lived there at times with JP. JP mentions Lauren a lot on his website and she possibly was his gf or even a roommate at some time. I still havent read any postings as to where JP or Ricardo have been for the dates starting in June on, nor did either call LE by the time the affidavit was written up for Casey. I read somewhere that it was stated that Ricardo and JP were not close friends of Casey, but she has sure been around them and in the same home a whole lot and even refers to Ricardo as her exbf.
On another note, Casey had been going to their house for mths, even way back in April so why was a handwritten paper found in her abandoned car with their address written on it? How odd. Could Casey not remember the address?
yanknrebel
08-12-2008, 03:20 PM
Ok Lauren is the ONE that I have stated all along looks WAY too much like Caylee. I asked a few posts ago (different thread) if Lauren had a grown brother? Lauren looks SO much like Caylee (or vice versa) that I am wondering if Lauren has a brother , if HE could be Caylee's father? I may eb mistaen but I beleive a fellow poster posted that Lauren and JP were brother and sister. Can anyone substantiate that? If so, than that would be a good reason for Lauren to live with Jp at times. Also vey good reason for Lauren to be very close to Caylee and watch her often. Perhaps she knows that Caylee is her niece? Just a thought. What is Lauren;s last name? Anyone know?
yanknrebel
lisa0477
08-12-2008, 03:28 PM
can someone please tell me how Jesus's mother was obtained saying that her name was this...Zenaida F. G
Zenaida G. O [ mother of JO ]
Jesus E. M [ died auto accident May 8,2007]
This is from post number 25 on this thread.
On his o it says her name is different.
This what I had posted on the sawgrass apts thread. Sorry to repeat just wanted to see if anyone knew the answer. Because I was thinking that this is where she had to of gotton the name from.
Originally Posted by lisa0477
Well, I was looking back at the thread about the players in this case and that is where I saw the names. It said that she was Jesus's mother. I figured it must have been talked about. I have been trying to catch up on it all. To me Casey seems to pull things from her butt if you know what I mean. It's a little bit of truth, with a little bit of lies. Sometimes if we look at what she has said and keep it simple then maybe we can figure it out better. She seems to just say things so quickly without thinking much.
I went back to try and find where the info was posted that this was Jesus O's mother and in the obit. it says her name is O. so if we can find out how they found out this maybe it would clear things up for me.
Zenaida G
Zenaida G. O[ mother of JO ]
Jesus E. O M [ died auto accident May 8,2007]
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67812 (post #25)
obit link
http://www.newcomernet.com/obituarie...1&Source=value
Jesus myspace page
http://www.myspace.com/xxupononexx
Amberjack
08-12-2008, 05:32 PM
Olga O is Jesus' mother
Either Jesus or father had a court case
against a Zenaida F.G
lisa0477
08-12-2008, 06:35 PM
Olga O is Jesus' mother
Either Jesus or father had a court case
against a Zenaida F.G
Thank you! Where did you find that? Do you know what it was about? IF there is a thread on this, please tell me. I couldn't find one, but will continue looking.
wanttohelp
08-12-2008, 10:25 PM
I would like to know too, I am happy you asked where that came from.
Thank you! Where did you find that? Do you know what it was about? IF there is a thread on this, please tell me. I couldn't find one, but will continue looking.
Amberjack
08-12-2008, 10:58 PM
Olga O is Jesus' mother
Either Jesus or father had a court case
against a Zenaida F-G
Actually the woman being sued by Jesus Ortiz was named
Zenaida G-R
I think the info is on the Orange County Jail thread
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/
No one knows if they are one & the same
Jesus or Zenaida...Maybe just a big coincidence.
Jesus' mother IS named Olga
From Topix.com:
The Public Records of the Orange County Clerk of Courts reveal the following information: Case # 07-CC0016198-0, a Jesus O and a Zenaida F R- type of Case- Removal of Tenant, Orlando. Case # 2007-CP 001361-0 (Probate),
a Jesus E. O, Deceased: Olga J M, Beneficiary: Jesus A. O, Personal Representative, and the attorney is Bryan W C. The Death Certificate was filed on 5/31/07. Status is Pending. Judge is Laurence Kirkwood.
lisa0477
08-12-2008, 11:27 PM
Thanks a bunch for that. If the Anthony family said that he was the father, then to me she must of heard this name Zenaida from this. Casey obviously knew Jesus, so it is not to far fetched to think this is where the name came from.
lisa0477
08-13-2008, 04:16 AM
I hate to drop another name but who is Lauren and where is she? All I know is this: Cindy said Caseys best friend Lauren babysat alot during the first mths of Caylee's life. Casey stated she's known her babysitter for 4 yrs and that she was her babysitter for around a yr and a half. Lauren and Caseys relationship could possibly be that long. Casey stated that Caylee's sitter loved her very much. Casey stayed at Glenwood Apt a long time off and on even back in April according to myspace facebook comments. John P C is owner of the apt and Ricardo, Amy and Casey have all lived there at times with JP. JP mentions Lauren a lot on his website and she possibly was his gf or even a roommate at some time. I still havent read any postings as to where JP or Ricardo have been for the dates starting in June on, nor did either call LE by the time the affidavit was written up for Casey. I read somewhere that it was stated that Ricardo and JP were not close friends of Casey, but she has sure been around them and in the same home a whole lot and even refers to Ricardo as her exbf.
So maybe Casey uses the length of time she knew the real sitter (she said in police report 4 yrs) and the name of the Zen. G that had to do with Jesus and goes from there. She had time to think of a story, but got caught off guard when her mom found her and called the cops.
Amberjack
08-13-2008, 07:46 PM
But..."A" ZG drove to the Sawgrass Apts. in her new red Ford Focus
Met with a property manager & looked at vacant apt. 210
Patience
08-14-2008, 08:39 AM
JOSE BAEZ
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/osceola/orl-baez0908aug09,0,918800.story
This sudden celebrity is a dramatic change for the boy who dropped out of Homestead High in the ninth grade, joined the U.S. Navy and attended Florida State University (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/education/florida-state-university-OREDU000030.topic) with plans of becoming a cop. He decided to be a lawyer his last year in Tallahassee.
"I wanted to have a bigger impact on the system. I thought law was the way to do that," he said from his strip-mall office next door to Miller Bail Bonds and down the street from the Osceola County Jail.
Baez, who speaks Spanish and Portuguese, graduated from St. Thomas University (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/education/colleges-universities/st.-thomas-university-OREDU0000144.topic) in Miami in 1997, cut his legal teeth at the Miami-Dade Public Defender's Office and opened his law firm in Kissimmee (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/us/florida/osceola-county/kissimmee-PLGEO100100411040000.topic) three years ago. He has another lawyer who works with him, along with an investigator and a paralegal.
Lately, his daughter Christina, a 21-year-old University of Florida (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/topic/education/colleges-universities/university-of-florida-OREDU0000153.topic) senior, has been helping with public relations.
Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, said her daughter got Baez's name while she was being booked at the Orange County Jail on July 16. Cindy Anthony is happy with his representation.
impatientredhead
08-14-2008, 09:28 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7090365&version=1&locale=EN-US
On Jon H, hopefully this isn't a repeat.
DeltaDawn
08-14-2008, 11:41 AM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7090365&version=1&locale=EN-US
On Jon H, hopefully this isn't a repeat.
I thought it was a Jeff H she knew briefly when she was at Universal?
SelmaClue
08-14-2008, 11:58 AM
I thought it was a Jeff H she knew briefly when she was at Universal?
Jeff H is correct.
worriedmom
08-14-2008, 11:59 AM
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I think that maybe Caylee's father is the marine named H. If you look on his myspace page, he lists Caylee as one of his heroes, and says something along the lines of "I wish I were with you, honey. . . " He and Casey seem to have known each other for many years (unlike JP or Ricardo who, from web evidence, seem to have come into her life more recently), and Casey writes to him on July 14th that he's her best friend. Also, he has a friend (or I suspect, maybe sister) named "Carree" (note the spelling), who has made her myspace page private, BUT, on the front page it says she's mad and that "Casey Anthony should bring her daughter Caylee home". In addition, Carree (note the spelling) writes to the Marine H(I'm not listing the first name for privacy sake, the last name was clearly in the photobucket picture on his uniform) on July 20th that "I'm praying for you and the Anthonys" -- why would she be praying for him in the same breath as the Anthony's?? If he were Caylee's daddy. (My other thought is that maybe the spelling of Caylee's name is a tribute not to Lee, but to her paternal aunt . . .)
impatientredhead
08-14-2008, 01:39 PM
I thought it was a Jeff H she knew briefly when she was at Universal?
He was one of the two people she supposedly told that Caylee was missing.
cjm11
08-14-2008, 02:27 PM
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I think that maybe Caylee's father is the marine named H. If you look on his myspace page, he lists Caylee as one of his heroes, and says something along the lines of "I wish I were with you, honey. . . " He and Casey seem to have known each other for many years (unlike JP or Ricardo who, from web evidence, seem to have come into her life more recently), and Casey writes to him on July 14th that he's her best friend. Also, he has a friend (or I suspect, maybe sister) named "Carree" (note the spelling), who has made her myspace page private, BUT, on the front page it says she's mad and that "Casey Anthony should bring her daughter Caylee home". In addition, Carree (note the spelling) writes to the Marine H (I'm not listing the first name for privacy sake, the last name was clearly in the photobucket picture on his uniform) on July 20th that "I'm praying for you and the Anthonys" -- why would she be praying for him in the same breath as the Anthony's?? If he were Caylee's daddy. (My other thought is that maybe the spelling of Caylee's name is a tribute not to Lee, but to her paternal aunt . . .)
This makes sense and H sounds like H. Do we know if Marine H first name is or close to Jeff?
Patience
08-14-2008, 03:09 PM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=20346194
Jeff
http://a638.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/28/m_371691977656256ab7667f68b3e95655.jpg (http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewAlbums&friendID=20346194)http://x.myspacecdn.com/modules/common/static/img/clear.gif"Caylee Anthony we are praying for you"
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Patience
08-14-2008, 03:14 PM
This makes sense and Hsounds like H. Do we know if Marine Hawkins first name is or close to Jeff?
I believe the marine's name is Jeremy.
Casey claimed that a Jeff H worked at Universal (Kodak?).
worriedmom
08-15-2008, 11:03 AM
I think we're talking about three different people here, actually.
There is Jeff H, listed by Casey as someone who worked with her at Universal. This guy exists on her myspace page as a friend.
There is Mark H (not Jeremy or Jeff), and you can find him on myspace and facebook as well. He was also a friend of casey's and their comments between them on his myspace page go way back. I think this is the guy in the marine uniform, and his has intersting comments about Caylee.
Then there is ALSO a Jeremy (last name unknown). I've seen his myspace page as well. He seems to be a good friend of Lee's. There is some speculation that he is related to Lauren. (Mark also knows Lauren).
I think it could matter who Caylee's father is. For one, I don't believe Casey for a second when she says that the father didn't know. I can't imagine her not telling. But also, if there is ANY chance that this baby is alive, I think it would make sense to look at who ELSE may have a connection to the child. Who might Casey have given her too. Either Casey killed her, and is a monster, or she gave her away to someone she knows would give her a good home, and was not worried because she knew she was safe. I know that the former is a more realistic possibility, but what if her cell phone pings were at the Orlando Airport not because she was dumping the body (really, woudl she have know that there were sinkholes there?) or maybe she was handing her off to someone . . .
Paladine
08-16-2008, 02:07 PM
This Padilla seems quite ...a few links, for your perusal...
Quote:
"In recent weeks, the Kevin J for Mayor Campaign has learned that Mayoral candidate Leonard Padilla traveled to Phoenix muckraking information in an effort to discredit Kevin Johnson. This is an unfortunate case of inflammatory, ugly politics on the part of Mr.
Padilla. We're disheartened that Mr. Padilla has, instead of focusing on the issues that are most important to voters and this city, resorted to this.
"We are in the midst of evaluating our options for filing a defamation suit against Mr. Padilla as we cannot condone this type of assault on the character of Kevin Johnson. We are confident that the citizens and voters of Sacramento will see these tactics for what they are, a smear campaign designed to distract from the important city issues at hand."
http://cbs13.com/local/kevin.johnson....2.701239.html
Quote:
Sacramento Police Chief Rick Braziel has said that the girl eventually recanted and that the allegation "was absolutely unfounded" – the product of gossip among teenage girls.
http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/865719.html
Quote:
Just in time for sweeps, noted Sacramento bounty hunter Leonard Padilla made a grand gesture - thumbing his nose at county officials, actually - by offering his fallow land in Natomas to the homeless.
Now, Padilla has never met a camera he didn't like, and the local TV media lapped it up. Fox40 and News10 ran straightforward stories, basically taking Padilla's offer at face value, but quoting County Supe Roger Dickinson as saying Padilla is violating a zoning ordinance.
However, channels 3 and 13 didn't give the gadfly bounty hunter a free pass.
At 6:30 Wednesday night, KCRA's Lois Hart and Dave Walker grilled Padilla in a live interview. It was great TV, classic no-nonsense Dave & Lois reporting and, frankly, about time somebody called Padilla on his grandstanding.
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs...es/008998.html
commongrackle
08-16-2008, 02:39 PM
I know that the former is a more realistic possibility, but what if her cell phone pings were at the Orlando Airport not because she was dumping the body (really, woudl she have know that there were sinkholes there?) or maybe she was handing her off to someone . . .
She apparently was looking at information about sinkholes, according to her stumbleupon page. Not sure if she found any info on sinkholes in her area, however.
wanttohelp
08-17-2008, 09:44 PM
Only one link worked, but in my opinion the link that worked proved he is a good guy. I applaud him bringing up questioned past in government elected oficials.
This Padilla seems quite slimy...a few links, for your perusal...
Quote:
"In recent weeks, the Kevin Johnson for Mayor Campaign has learned that Mayoral candidate Leonard Padilla traveled to Phoenix muckraking information in an effort to discredit Kevin Johnson. This is an unfortunate case of inflammatory, ugly politics on the part of Mr.
Padilla. We're disheartened that Mr. Padilla has, instead of focusing on the issues that are most important to voters and this city, resorted to this.
"We are in the midst of evaluating our options for filing a defamation suit against Mr. Padilla as we cannot condone this type of assault on the character of Kevin Johnson. We are confident that the citizens and voters of Sacramento will see these tactics for what they are, a smear campaign designed to distract from the important city issues at hand."
http://cbs13.com/local/kevin.johnson....2.701239.html
Quote:
Sacramento Police Chief Rick Braziel has said that the girl eventually recanted and that the allegation "was absolutely unfounded" – the product of gossip among teenage girls.
http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/865719.html
Quote:
Just in time for sweeps, noted Sacramento bounty hunter Leonard Padilla made a grand gesture - thumbing his nose at county officials, actually - by offering his fallow land in Natomas to the homeless.
Now, Padilla has never met a camera he didn't like, and the local TV media lapped it up. Fox40 and News10 ran straightforward stories, basically taking Padilla's offer at face value, but quoting County Supe Roger Dickinson as saying Padilla is violating a zoning ordinance.
However, channels 3 and 13 didn't give the gadfly bounty hunter a free pass.
At 6:30 Wednesday night, KCRA's Lois Hart and Dave Walker grilled Padilla in a live interview. It was great TV, classic no-nonsense Dave & Lois reporting and, frankly, about time somebody called Padilla on his grandstanding.
http://www.sacbee.com/static/weblogs...es/008998.html
AmyinTheHam
08-20-2008, 01:22 PM
On another note, Casey had been going to their house for mths, even way back in April so why was a handwritten paper found in her abandoned car with their address written on it? How odd. Could Casey not remember the address?
That struck me as VERY odd too....
manatee
08-20-2008, 01:26 PM
That struck me as VERY odd too....
it was Amy's resume, I thought.
AmyinTheHam
08-20-2008, 01:39 PM
it was a Amy's resume, I thought.
Oh, I thought it was a handwritten note. But I am betting two totally different things have been reported, note and resume...
janiekay
08-20-2008, 03:29 PM
Does anyone know where Amy is these days??? I noticed that on the day of the "flurry" of phone calls to the parents, it also said that her last call was to Amy... I also wondered how long the call was??? I couldn't find whether it was another 1 minute call or if the call lasted longer??? :waitasec: AND, if so...
Have the police brought her (Amy) in for questioning since that info was released??? I still find all the interconnection between people to be very weird...Casey used to date Ricardo, but now he is dating Amy, and they let her come to live with them after she had the fight with her mom, but before she moved in with Tony. How long have Amy and Casey been friends??? Before or after Ricardo??? :confused:
Also, it seems that Tony has taken a leave of absence!!! Nothing like standing by your gal!!! I would love to have been a fly on the wall when she called him from jail!!! :rolleyes:
Maybe both of them are testifying against Casey for immunity...
****I reposted this on the "where are the friends and neighbors" thread!!!*****
sweetwater
08-20-2008, 03:49 PM
On another note, Casey had been going to their house for mths, even way back in April so why was a handwritten paper found in her abandoned car with their address written on it? How odd. Could Casey not remember the address?
This has struck me as really odd, too.
Unfortunately at this point we only have Cindy's statement.
The "lying is not a criminal offense" Cindy Anthony.
janiekay
08-20-2008, 04:02 PM
But I thought one of the charges against her was lying to LE????? LOL!!!
s1rebecca
08-20-2008, 04:06 PM
Lets see Casey just turned 3 and Casey is 22? That would have made her 18 or 19 when she got pregnant. How many 18 or 19 year olds get pregnant just because they want a baby, not many. Don't slam me here, but usually they think they are in love with the person and in hopes of keeping the person they get pregnant either on purpose or by simple carless lust. So I believe they know exactly who the father is, maybe it was a married man or something and they tried to keep it secret. Only the Anthony's know the truth to that and believe me they do.
manatee
08-20-2008, 04:11 PM
This has struck me as really odd, too.
Unfortunately at this point we only have Cindy's statement.
The "lying is not a criminal offense" Cindy Anthony.
Again, it was Amy's resume not a note.
s1rebecca
08-20-2008, 04:13 PM
Why wasn't Jesse helping find Caylee if she was missing at that time? He was a police officer and someone she knew and had been engaged to. Why did he resign.
wanttohelp
08-20-2008, 06:11 PM
on markymarks myspace casey left a message saying her boyfriend was coming home and she was excited, does anyone know where he was? was thqat discussed anywhere
manatee
08-20-2008, 08:56 PM
on markymarks myspace casey left a message saying her boyfriend was coming home and she was excited, does anyone know where he was? was thqat discussed anywhere
I believe NYC
servingothers
08-24-2008, 11:00 PM
does this look like caylee?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=236396140
No resemblance.
servingothers
08-24-2008, 11:21 PM
Are they suggesting that the kidnapper/babysitter also took Casey's telephone?
This is interesting. She did say her phone is missing and to my recollection no one has found it. It has to be somewhere. Maybe someone does have it?
servingothers
08-24-2008, 11:30 PM
Does anyone know where Amy is these days??? I noticed that on the day of the "flurry" of phone calls to the parents, it also said that her last call was to Amy... I also wondered how long the call was??? I couldn't find whether it was another 1 minute call or if the call lasted longer??? :waitasec: AND, if so...
Have the police brought her (Amy) in for questioning since that info was released??? I still find all the interconnection between people to be very weird...Casey used to date Ricardo, but now he is dating Amy, and they let her come to live with them after she had the fight with her mom, but before she moved in with Tony. How long have Amy and Casey been friends??? Before or after Ricardo??? :confused:
Also, it seems that Tony has taken a leave of absence!!! Nothing like standing by your gal!!! I would love to have been a fly on the wall when she called him from jail!!! :rolleyes:
Maybe both of them are testifying against Casey for immunity...
****I reposted this on the "where are the friends and neighbors" thread!!!*****
Can't help but wonder why Casey asked for Tony's number. Seems to me she would know exactly how to contact "her boyfriend". I know I would.
sweetwater
08-24-2008, 11:53 PM
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=20346194
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I still don't have a name for the guy on the right; he's been in a bunch of pictures. Anybody know?
Rose Mom
08-25-2008, 08:56 AM
I still don't have a name for the guy on the right; he's been in a bunch of pictures. Anybody know?
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=9366565
Is this him..... "Alex"
mrskub
08-25-2008, 03:06 PM
He is listed as "cory" on the MySpace pics. Click on pics, then on "Roxyz wit my peeps"
LookingForThe Truth
08-25-2008, 08:28 PM
Quick Notes From Ryan P's Interview With Capt. Mellich:
Casey refers to Ryan as her "best friend" & has known Casey since he was five. He has stated he spoke with Casey on the weekend of June 13, 14, 15 & she was supposed to meet up with him at his Aunts house, but it "didn't pan out".
Ryan lives & attends school in Jacksonville, but his parents live in Orlando.
He first heard about Caylee missing when Cindy Anthony called him at 8:30am & then at 10am the morning Casey was arrested.
He has never heard about any Zenaida Gonzalez. He stated Casey told him another name for the nanny. ("Jenny, Krista, Kristan, maybe Christina") "Definately NOT a Hispanic name", he stated.
Casey never mentioned who Caylee's father was.
Casey told him she was an Event Planner at Universal for the past 2-3 yrs.
He was confronted by Cindy about Casey telling her she was working at the Sports Authority with him. This story from Casey was NOT true.
Casey would use the excuse for coming home late, as she was doing inventory at the sports Authority with Ryan. She then later claimed to have gotten transferred to another store in Waterford.
Cindy Anthony called him & told him not to talk to Casey anymore because of her lying & stealing money from Cindy & her grandmother. Cindy referred to Casey as a Sociopath.
Casey borrowed $400. from Ryan, for "rent to her parents".
Casey mentioned using drugs to Ryan.
Jose Baez, Casey's attorney, called Ryan a few days after she was arrested to inquire about him being a character reference. Ryan declined saying, "I'm going to be a big detriment to your case."
Ryan refers to Casey as being "kinda a hard ass" who has to be scared because "She's not going to do anything for anybody unless she has, un...unless theres something in it for her."
Transcript of conversation with LE:
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0825/17290403.pdf
EastSideOfSaddness
08-25-2008, 08:50 PM
Also, it seems that Tony has taken a leave of absence!!! Nothing like standing by your gal!!! I would love to have been a fly on the wall when she called him from jail!!! :rolleyes:
To be fair, they only met the last week in May. If I was dating a guy and all this happened in such a short period of time I would act the same way. You barely know someone in that short of a time frame.
I would not want to talk with media at all & you bet I would want as far away from this situation as possible after cooperating with LE.
yanknrebel
08-26-2008, 10:17 AM
Quick Notes From Ryan P's Interview With Capt. Mellich:
Casey refers to Ryan as her "best friend" & has known Casey since he was five. He has stated he spoke with Casey on the weekend of June 13, 14, 15 & she was supposed to meet up with him at his Aunts house, but it "didn't pan out".
Ryan lives & attends school in Jacksonville, but his parents live in Orlando.
He first heard about Caylee missing when Cindy Anthony called him at 8:30am & then at 10am the morning Casey was arrested.
He has never heard about any Zenaida Gonzalez. He stated Casey told him another name for the nanny. ("Jenny, Krista, Kristan, maybe Christina") "Definately NOT a Hispanic name", he stated.
Casey never mentioned who Caylee's father was.
Casey told him she was an Event Planner at Universal for the past 2-3 yrs.
He was confronted by Cindy about Casey telling her she was working at the Sports Authority with him. This story from Casey was NOT true.
Casey would use the excuse for coming home late, as she was doing inventory at the sports Authority with Ryan. She then later claimed to have gotten transferred to another store in Waterford.
Cindy Anthony called him & told him not to talk to Casey anymore because of her lying & stealing money from Cindy & her grandmother. Cindy referred to Casey as a Sociopath.
Casey borrowed $400. from Ryan, for "rent to her parents".
Casey mentioned using drugs to Ryan.
Jose Baez, Casey's attorney, called Ryan a few days after she was arrested to inquire about him being a character reference. Ryan declined saying, "I'm going to be a big detriment to your case."
Ryan refers to Casey as being "kinda a hard ass" who has to be scared because "She's not going to do anything for anybody unless she has, un...unless theres something in it for her."
Transcript of conversation with LE:
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0825/17290403.pdf
Ok I read just the first set of documents last night of the 400 that were released to the public. Towards the end of the first set the LE was asking Casey who Caylee's FATHER is? She states that she has known him since she was 5 or 6 years of age, that both of their families are friends. Now this is what Casey said, after the le has told her all that she has said so far is a lie. He told her to stop lying and so supposedly THIS info is the truth. Now I did not know who this person was that she had known since she was about age 5 or 6. This has to be RYAN. Did anyone else read this? I know it was late but this really jumped out at me. I read it several times. Also I have said all along I think Caylee looks alot like Lauren Gibbs, the friend that was the very first baby sitter of Caylee. I have asked if anyone knows if Lauren has a grown brother. I suspect he may be the father of Caylee. I thought someone on here told me JP was her brother. They have different last names, so just not sure. I sure wish they would drag JP , Ricardo and Ryan in for dna testing to see if either of these men are the father. I have a strong suspicion that Casey gave Caylee tot he birth father or to the family of the birthfather. She did not want Caylee, but her mother Cindy did. Cindy was threatening to take custody of Caylee away from Casey. Casey has to always call the shots and I think this is the ultimate Gotcha to Cindy. Remove Caylee so that Cindy can never get her hands on Caylee. I think Casey has always been jealous of her mother's love (Cindy) for Caylee. I think Cindy has thought and rightfully so, more of herself as Caylee's mother, as she appeared to be the main caretaker of the child.
yanknrebel
TLS51
08-26-2008, 11:01 AM
I so think that there needs to be some DNA testing done of these 3 young men in regards to Caylee's Paternity. I have heard that at least 2 of these guys are 'longtime' friends not only with Casey, but with family connections.
Lorakai
08-28-2008, 12:06 AM
July 23rd, 2008 a tip was called in by Wanda D W who said she, and her 13 yr old son , were boarding an AirTran flight 862 from Orlando to Georgia on July 2, 2008 when they met Caylee who was interested in the dog they were carrying on board. Detectives met with Mrs. W. and interviewed her and her son who gave detailed statements to the sighting of Caylee. Wanda and her son completed a sketch for detectives. The last stored date of the surveillance video from the Orlando Airport was erased from the tape, which was July 8th, 2008. W and her son remember the girl saying her name was Caylee Marie Antony, when asked how old she was she put up three fingers and adjusted them to two. They recall her wearing blue "crocs" and said that the adult female who was with her did not act like a parent. According to the flight manifest two children were scheduled to board that flight, they were AnnaBell . May 1, 2007 said to be seated in the lap, and 7 year oold. Wery recalls she thinks they were sitting in rows 10 or 11. This information was forwarded to to FBI for investigation.
Mr. Crisp
June 19, 2008 Casey calls Mr. C who says Casey was looking for an apartment for her boyfriend TL. Crisp met with both Casey and TL who seemed anxious to get out of his lease. They filed out a contract form. Mr. C called Casey later in the week, and Casey appeared to pushing the club Fusian on him.
janiekay
08-29-2008, 10:44 AM
Where did you get this info from???
redtailhawk
08-30-2008, 12:36 AM
When I look at the pics of JP and the pics of Caylee wearing the ball cap and holding the baby doll she really favors him. It's when she is making that "what you talking about willis?" face...there is another pic where she is making a little quirky face and I see JP there.
Time will tell eh?
kaykakes
08-31-2008, 12:17 PM
I don't think Casey even knows for sure who the father is.
seagull65
08-31-2008, 01:35 PM
I think Caylee looks the most like JP, too, whether there's actually any connection or purely coincidence. If he were the child's father (again, purely theoretical) he might also not have any idea. Or, he might. Nice looking guy, anyway. Somewhere I saw links to some videos by him, those were interesting and creative. His pictures from the puerto rico trip were neat, I think they've all been taken down now. Did you see the picture of the "casita" at whoever's house they were staying? I wondered, is that a little girl's playhouse, or is it an actual cottage, I can't remember how big it was. Early in the case I kept wondering if Casey's friends had taken Caylee to Puerto Rico with them, to hide her there for Casey with their family, to deliver to paternal grandparents, or whatever (again, this is totally what if/speculative, not stated as fact). Anyway:
JP -- co-owner of house with Ricardo M, where Amy and Casey/Caylee had been staying.
Also, Tony L roommate should probably be on this list, what's his name, Sean? Where Casey stayed after June 9.
Also, the young woman who had expressed an interest to Casey to adopt her child, at the time Casey was pregnant. Apparently about the same age as Casey though? Kiomarie? That whole sideline story makes you wonder about a few things. I need to look for the right thread to talk about that one.
Noway
08-31-2008, 03:36 PM
I have been working on a list of whos' who and although I initially thought there was a great resemblance between JP C and Caylee, is there any proof that they knew each other 4 years ago, when she got pregnant?
She only met his roommates, Amy and Ricardo, within the last 2 years or so.
Lorakai
08-31-2008, 09:21 PM
Where did you get this info from???
From the 400pg document
janiekay
08-31-2008, 10:40 PM
I haven't finished it, so, thanks!!!
Anyone else having trouble downloading the 400 pg pdf files???
AZRiverRat
09-01-2008, 02:31 AM
Dancer"s Royale myspace......MANY of the same names keep popping up!
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=73781243
Matt.....Shows up quite often too. Look at his pics. There is a pic of him and Casey.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46577286
Snowman....In some of the party pics.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=21322230
Sean...LakeVaj, same crowd.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=159189365
....Same crowd again. Look at his 23rd birthday pics. Casey is posing in a flag dress with Sean.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=18767246
Ive been lurking at MySpace all day LOL!
AZRiverRat
09-01-2008, 05:03 PM
Heres some interesting info about Jesus O
http://momtective.wordpress.com/2008/08/20/what-we-know-about-jesus-ortiz/
So much for that Cindy/Casey story!
imnotheonlyone
09-01-2008, 05:28 PM
Ok I read just the first set of documents last night of the 400 that were released to the public. Towards the end of the first set the LE was asking Casey who Caylee's FATHER is? She states that she has known him since she was 5 or 6 years of age, that both of their families are friends. Now this is what Casey said, after the le has told her all that she has said so far is a lie. He told her to stop lying and so supposedly THIS info is the truth. Now I did not know who this person was that she had known since she was about age 5 or 6. This has to be RYAN. Did anyone else read this? I know it was late but this really jumped out at me. I read it several times. Also I have said all along I think Caylee looks alot like Lauren G, the friend that was the very first baby sitter of Caylee. I have asked if anyone knows if Lauren has a grown brother. I suspect he may be the father of Caylee. I thought someone on here told me JP was her brother. They have different last names, so just not sure. I sure wish they would drag JP , Ricardo and Ryan in for dna testing to see if either of these men are the father. I have a strong suspicion that Casey gave Caylee tot he birth father or to the family of the birthfather. She did not want Caylee, but her mother Cindy did. Cindy was threatening to take custody of Caylee away from Casey. Casey has to always call the shots and I think this is the ultimate Gotcha to Cindy. Remove Caylee so that Cindy can never get her hands on Caylee. I think Casey has always been jealous of her mother's love (Cindy) for Caylee. I think Cindy has thought and rightfully so, more of herself as Caylee's mother, as she appeared to be the main caretaker of the child.
yanknrebel
I keep going back to this too - known him since she was 5 or 6, but her own mother doesn't know his last name? Only knows of him through an obituary? I don't believe anything Casey says, but I WOULD like to know the truth about Caylee's daddy and if he, in fact, did opt out of her life, or if he was never given the opportunity to know her.
imnotheonlyone
09-01-2008, 05:44 PM
Dancer"s Royale myspace......MANY of the same names keep popping up!
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=73781243
Matt.....Shows up quite often too. Look at his pics. There is a pic of him and Casey.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46577286
Snowman....In some of the party pics.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=21322230
Sean...LakeVaj, same crowd.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=159189365
Jing a Ling....Same crowd again. Look at his 23rd birthday pics. Casey is posing in a flag dress with Sean.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=18767246
Ive been lurking at MySpace all day LOL!
Great sleuthin! :clap: Very interesting about Dancers Royale... have you friend requested each of these?
imnotheonlyone
09-01-2008, 08:03 PM
Dancer"s Royale myspace......MANY of the same names keep popping up!
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=73781243
Matt.....Shows up quite often too. Look at his pics. There is a pic of him and Casey.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=46577286
Snowman....In some of the party pics.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=21322230 (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=21322230)
Sean...LakeVaj, same crowd.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=159189365
Jing a Ling....Same crowd again. Look at his 23rd birthday pics. Casey is posing in a flag dress with Sean.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=18767246
Ive been lurking at MySpace all day LOL!
SNOWMAN'S MYSPACE "ABOUT ME"
So yeah whats up, Im Brandon 23 years old. I just got back from my 2nd deployment, which was about 15 months in Iraq. Right now Im just hanging out in North Carolina waiting to get orders to redeploy back to iraq at a later date. I have some of the best friends that a person could ever ask for. They are true and good at heart. These last couple of weeks have no doubt been the best couple in the longest time. I cant imagine anything going better in my life than what is already taking place. Funny how that old saying is good things come to those whom wait. I now believe that. Im thankful everyday for what I have and would never do anything to risk it.
** SNOWMAN'S TOP FRIENDS INCLUDE SEVERAL OF THE LAKE VAJ CREW & CAST IRON TATTOOS CREW **
SNOWMAN'S SCHOOLS
Colonial High School (http://schools.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=schools&schoolID=27319)
Orlando,Florida
Graduated: 2003 (http://school.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=schools.members&schoolID=27319&searchType=network&f_first_name=&InterestType=SCH-REF&f_search_criteria=27319&x=46&y=12&YearType=graduated&GradYear=2003)
Student status: Alumni
Degree: High School Diploma
Clubs: Automotive Club, Drinking Club
SOME OF THE COMMENTS LEFT BY CASEY ON SNOWMAN'S MYSPACE
Apr 3, 2007 7:13 PM
so you're still breathing? nice to see. drop me a line one of these days... you know. that's what friends do.
-later.
Mar 21, 2007 7:44 PM
stopped by the house. your parents are doing really well. thanks for my birthday present :)
hope you're well.
and i wasn't kidding about that bottle of patron. i will have your name nicely written on it, for when you return. it's long awaited, to say the least.
Mar 20, 2007 8:18 PM
i heard that there is something waiting for me at your parent's house. i'm definitely going to have to make my weekly visit to see them, and share my stories from last night.
wish you could have been here.
take care. stay safe.
Mar 14, 2007 6:37 PM
a new song? stand back!
oh, and BEST GROUP, ever.
enough said.
take care love.
Mar 8, 2007 5:27 AM
so your mom, is absolutely the best, without a doubt. :)
oh, and here's my BIG idea for when you come home... cruise maybe? ♥
Mar 3, 2007 7:33 PM
i love you.
it's worth it.
don't ever forget that.
Feb 24, 2007 3:24 PM
Brandon...
i miss you. ♥
Feb 22, 2007 12:55 PM
so i got to take a nap... and had the funniest dream about you. remind me tonight to tell you about it. ;)
and i guess now, i should start calling you "boss". ha. ♥
Feb 21, 2007 12:25 PM
you absolutely .rock. my world ;) ♥
Feb 19, 2007 9:18 PM
missing my .monkey man.
hope you're feeling better.
love you babe.
Feb 17, 2007 5:08 PM
i absolutely can't wait to talk to you!!!!
miss you baby.
Feb 17, 2007 6:18 AM
♥ you :)
Feb 12, 2007 8:54 AM
we haven't gotten to talk much the last few days... just know that i'm thinking about you.
Feb 5, 2007 1:38 PM (looks like they were dating)
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/adowning04/icons/ilovemylover.gif
Feb 5, 2007 1:34 PM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/adowning04/icons/thsensitiveassrocking.png
you know i will ;)
haha.
Feb 5, 2007 6:35 AM
two guesses what i'm thinking about right now....
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/adowning04/icons/sex-1.gif
;)
Feb 3, 2007 8:34 PM
oh yeah. and condoms=the devil.
enough said. ;)
Feb 3, 2007 6:03 AM
i love our late-night/early-morning talks... even if i do lose hours of necessary beauty sleep :)
it's so worth it!
Feb 1, 2007 9:56 AM
seriously, you leave the best picture comments!!! ♥
i'll be waiting for your happy ass tonight.
LOVE YOU!!!!!
Feb 1, 2007 3:25 AM
you're crazy, but i love you. :)
and yes, you make me randy... like no other!
Jan 30, 2007 8:36 PM
make sure you wear tons of sunscreen! and try not to get too hot...
i don't want my snowman melting.
Jan 29, 2007 7:38 PM
i love you. it's as simple as that.
Jan 26, 2007 1:34 PM
so i've decided, i'm going to call you Bam Bam. maybe it's because of my dream... haha, maybe not ;)
either way, you are now Bam Bam.
love you hunny ♥
Jan 24, 2007 10:03 AM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c224/Shelley81/Icons/Love%20Icons/tho.jpg
Jan 24, 2007 3:53 AM
it's official.... i miss you like crazy.
i love you. ♥
Jan 22, 2007 9:50 AM
i can't wait to talk to you. it's only been 2 hours, but i'm already missing you like WHOA. i love you babe. be safe. take care. and enjoy your pictures ;)
Jan 18, 2007 7:20 PM
alright lover boy... we're going to add some of our new pictures to your page, before you leave. :)
thanks for dinner babe. at some point, we'll have to finish our game of 20 questions. good times. good times. ♥
Jan 6, 2007 1:09 PM
you have no idea how happy i was to see you get off that plane. babe, i'm so glad you're home!
Jan 2, 2007 6:39 AM
hurry up and come home, so i can start my vacation! :)
Jan 1, 2007 7:33 PM
i ♥ you!!!
Dec 25, 2006 1:29 AM
Merry Christmas love!
gosh, i wish you were here. try and keep your spirits up today, and if you get a chance, call my ass! be careful. be safe. know that i love you, and miss you terribly, and can't wait until you're home!
oh, and there is some package under my christmas tree... and it has your name on it. wonder who it's from? ;)
Dec 22, 2006 11:03 PM
alright, one. lay off the OSU cursor. i've had it for weeks.
second. i was talking about you TONS tonight, over beers with my brother & friends. can't find my ****ing cell phone though, so i'm not too thrilled. but yeah. just going to be hanging out at home tomorrow, since i'm off. counting the days til you're finally home again!
geez you little bastard. come online when i'm actually here! i waited until late for you, and you're not on. we need to set up a time again, or something. i hate missing you. boo.
take care love. can't wait to see you... soon enough! ♥
Dec 11, 2006 6:30 AM
so i missed you twice last night, well technically this morning. i was up at 2. you messaged me at 12:30. and i was up after 9, since i didn't get to sleep at all last night. saw that you were on around 5:30 or so. no worries ;) i know i'll catch ya at some point today.
hope everything is going well. and man, do i have a couple stories to tell you!!! miss you LOVER BOY!
Dec 7, 2006 8:06 AM
babe, how is it possible that we miss each other twice in one day!? i literally got back home at 10:55, and missed your ims, by a couple minutes - 8:30 your time is roughly 12:30 my time, so i'll be here.
very happy that you got your official dates, so not only can i update my countdown, but i can start preparations - yay!
looks like we'll be seeing each other in exactly a month.
Nov 21, 2006 12:47 AM
definitely let my happy ass know asap about those dates! counting the days... already, just not officially yet
i'm doing alright. just trying to work the kinks out of a few situations. nothing too extreme. planning a little *surprise* for a special someone (hint, hint). i can't wait for you to finally see the munchkin. she'll be as tall as me by the time you get here, but she probably still won't be putting a whole sentence together.
i'm all over going to busch gardens. although the new rollercoaster is quite intimidating, and i did chicken-out on my birthday, i may have to attempt it this time.
as far as the tattoo... i have a few ideas in the works. drawing up a couple things. i'll have a definite idea within the next week or so. cherry blossoms are beautiful. i think it will complete your arm very well. good stuff - and yeah, totally agree. solid image is the only place i'll go. bobby owes me a fill anyway.
it's almost 4am here, and i really couldn't sleep. glad i came on to see your message. i was in need of a pick-me-up, and this did the job. SO happy you're doing well.
and yes, it is 5'clock somewhere, just not here either. we'll take care of that soon enough.
take care. miss you. until next time.
Nov 18, 2006 1:18 PM
well, regardless if the boys are willing to talk now or not, i know we'll all definitely get together when you're home. at least you know you've always got me
trying to figure out tattoo ideas... i want something a bit bigger than the last one, considering it's about the size of a quarter. i think you've yet to see the shamrock.
i am definitely up for a theme park day. let me know where and when, and i can probably get us tickets ahead of time. i want to spend as much time with you as possible.
i almost forgot your past relationship woes. glad i'm not the only one. i don't think we're necessarily meant to be single, but we definitely haven't come across the "right one" yet, either. you never know!
i'll be your partner in crime when you're home. we have a lot of time to make up for. ♥
and don't worry... i can't help but think about my *sexy man in uniform*
Nov 18, 2006 12:38 AM
well, you aren't the only one that hasn't really talked to anyone. cory's probably the only one that's attempted to call me in the past few months, but, you know the history with that. haha.
anyway. trying to figure out tattoo ideas. there are few people i would love to share the experience with, and well, you are most definitely one of them. as far as things here, i'm doing well. looking for a new job, trying to figure out what to do with school, and all that crazy stuff. same old. not too much has changed. my relationship history is of course repeating itself, like i should be surprised at this point. i guess i'm one of those that has yet to be lucky in love. someday.
i'm assuming everyone is doing well. i haven't heard otherwise, so i guess that's a good thing. definitely can't wait for our reunion though. i've missed my boys, definitely one in particular
L-O-V-E the new pictures. you're looking like more of a badass everyday. good stuff babe. glad you're well. we'll be throwing a few back soon enough. i have been looking forward to this for sometime, indeed. take care. miss you.
Oct 24, 2006 10:24 AM
you have ABSOLUTELY no idea how much i miss you!!!
the sooner you get home, the better. not only are we going to dinner, getting wasted, and taking tons of pictures, but we will create so many more memories to help you get through the rest of your leave. please be careful. know that you're in my heart, and my thoughts, and i just can't wait to squeeze the **** out of you!!!!
Oct 14, 2006 6:10 AM
aw, i miss you B.
can't wait to see you in Jan. i'll have to take a few days off so we can all get together. i say we even brave the cold, and hit the beach... for old times' sake
i'll make sure to send some pictures asap. you wouldn't believe how big caylee is getting.
take care of yourself hun.
Oct 3, 2006 1:23 PM
babe, don't say that. i was working the first time you called, and wasn't able to get to my phone in time. i wasn't sure if i could call that number back, that's why i haven't tried to call. and as far as today, i was getting my hair cut. i really hate that i keep missing your calls. i postponed sending my letter so i could get together some pictures from lauren's birthday, and even of the munchkin and myself. i'm always thinking about you B, and can't wait for you to come back home.
AZRiverRat
09-01-2008, 08:38 PM
SNOWMAN'S MYSPACE "ABOUT ME"
So yeah whats up, Im Brandon 23 years old. I just got back from my 2nd deployment, which was about 15 months in Iraq. Right now Im just hanging out in North Carolina waiting to get orders to redeploy back to iraq at a later date. I have some of the best friends that a person could ever ask for. They are true and good at heart. These last couple of weeks have no doubt been the best couple in the longest time. I cant imagine anything going better in my life than what is already taking place. Funny how that old saying is good things come to those whom wait. I now believe that. Im thankful everyday for what I have and would never do anything to risk it.
** SNOWMAN'S TOP FRIENDS INCLUDE SEVERAL OF THE LAKE VAJ CREW & CAST IRON TATTOOS CREW **
SNOWMAN'S SCHOOLS
Colonial High School (http://schools.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=schools&schoolID=27319)
Orlando,Florida
Graduated: 2003 (http://school.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=schools.members&schoolID=27319&searchType=network&f_first_name=&InterestType=SCH-REF&f_search_criteria=27319&x=46&y=12&YearType=graduated&GradYear=2003)
Student status: Alumni
Degree: High School Diploma
Clubs: Automotive Club, Drinking Club
COMMENTS LEFT BY CASEY ON SNOWMAN'S MYSPACE
Apr 3, 2007 7:13 PM
so you're still breathing? nice to see. drop me a line one of these days... you know. that's what friends do.
-later.
Mar 21, 2007 7:44 PM
stopped by the house. your parents are doing really well. thanks for my birthday present :)
hope you're well.
and i wasn't kidding about that bottle of patron. i will have your name nicely written on it, for when you return. it's long awaited, to say the least.
Mar 20, 2007 8:18 PM
i heard that there is something waiting for me at your parent's house. i'm definitely going to have to make my weekly visit to see them, and share my stories from last night.
wish you could have been here.
take care. stay safe.
Mar 14, 2007 6:37 PM
a new song? stand back!
oh, and BEST GROUP, ever.
enough said.
take care love.
Mar 8, 2007 5:27 AM
so your mom, is absolutely the best, without a doubt. :)
oh, and here's my BIG idea for when you come home... cruise maybe? ♥
Mar 3, 2007 7:33 PM
i love you.
it's worth it.
don't ever forget that.
Feb 24, 2007 3:24 PM
Brandon...
i miss you. ♥
Feb 22, 2007 12:55 PM
so i got to take a nap... and had the funniest dream about you. remind me tonight to tell you about it. ;)
and i guess now, i should start calling you "boss". ha. ♥
Feb 21, 2007 12:25 PM
you absolutely .rock. my world ;) ♥
Feb 19, 2007 9:18 PM
missing my .monkey man.
hope you're feeling better.
love you babe.
Feb 17, 2007 5:08 PM
i absolutely can't wait to talk to you!!!!
miss you baby.
Feb 17, 2007 6:18 AM
♥ you :)
Feb 12, 2007 8:54 AM
we haven't gotten to talk much the last few days... just know that i'm thinking about you.
Feb 5, 2007 1:38 PM (looks like they were dating)
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/adowning04/icons/ilovemylover.gif
Feb 5, 2007 1:34 PM
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/adowning04/icons/thsensitiveassrocking.png
you know i will ;)
haha.
Feb 5, 2007 6:35 AM
two guesses what i'm thinking about right now....
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l217/adowning04/icons/sex-1.gif
;)
OMG! His page was set to private so I had no idea these comments were there!
EXCELLENT FIND!:woohoo:
imnotheonlyone
09-01-2008, 08:40 PM
OMG! His page was set to private so I had no idea these comments were there!
EXCELLENT FIND!:woohoo:
I'm still posting..... the comments get better and better the farther I go back -
AZRiverRat
09-01-2008, 08:41 PM
She sounds so much different in those posts! Almost human even!
Is there any mention of him in the 400 page docs?
imnotheonlyone
09-01-2008, 09:22 PM
She sounds so much different in those posts! Almost human even!
Is there any mention of him in the 400 page docs?
I don't recall any mention of him - his last name is listed in one of the comments left on his space (I know we can't post last names)....
Now I have to go back to the timeline...when was she dating Jesse???
lacey clementine
09-01-2008, 09:47 PM
Great find!!! Please tell how you saw all this if his profile is set to private???
imnotheonlyone
09-01-2008, 09:58 PM
Great find!!! Please tell how you saw all this if his profile is set to private???
I befriended him (fake account)
lacey clementine
09-01-2008, 10:26 PM
I befriended him (fake account)
Brilliant!
ZooKeeper
09-01-2008, 11:08 PM
So, now we have started to lie and deceive people in order to obtain any information we feel we should have even at the expense of someone who has requested his info be private. I'm sorry, I just don't feel like this is good policy...........of course it's JMHO
unsaid
09-01-2008, 11:15 PM
So, now we have started to lie and deceive people in order to obtain any information we feel we should have even at the expense of someone who has requested his info be private. I'm sorry, I just don't feel like this is good policy...........of course it's JMHO
On myspace though, it's not a really big deal. People have thousands of "friends" that they don't even know or intend to know or communicate with. Its SOP for young people on myspace.
Lorakai
09-01-2008, 11:33 PM
Casey's facebook friends are two Gonzalez,.. has anyone ever looked into them? Per the Sawgrass apt. form filled out by H Garcia, Z Gonzale had a child by the name of Michelle.
Also, I thought odd Casey has another friend on facebook with the last name Franck...
According to the 400pg docs Lee's email said Z had a sister named Samantha, and Z had a father named Victor. Z's mother is a Gloria.
Investigators in the docs showed two Z's last name Rosado alias of ZG
imnotheonlyone
09-02-2008, 12:33 AM
So, now we have started to lie and deceive people in order to obtain any information we feel we should have even at the expense of someone who has requested his info be private. I'm sorry, I just don't feel like this is good policy...........of course it's JMHO
I am a Guardian Ad Litem and use a fake account for investigation - hey, if someone wants to befriend me, that's their deal - it takes as long to delete me as it did to add me :)
Laneymae
09-02-2008, 09:55 AM
Caylee Marie Anthony
Casey Marie Anthony
Cindy Anthony
George Anthony
Lee Anthony
Grandpa [ Cindy's father who is in elderly facility]
Amy Huizenga
Carlos Podvillo
Kristina
Ricardo Morales
Mallory
Jessie Grund
Troy
Fuzzy Red Balloons
Fusion Ultra Lounge
Jeff Hopkins
Tony Lazzarro
Patrick Bourgeois
Frank Bourgeois
Mike Walker
Nancy Grace
Geraldo
Amscot lot
Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez
Zenaida Gonzalez Ortiz [ mother of JO ]
Jesus E. Ortiz Marque [ died auto accident May 8,2007]
Chris Stutz
Christine Chester
if anybody finda any more please add to this list.
this is to join some people and places in a generic fashion.just things that we have learned so far.
Is Kristina KC?
RhondaIL
09-02-2008, 10:35 PM
I was not sure where to post this. If this is not the correct thread, maybe someone could direct me. TIA
I found this while wandering through youtube. Someone took a lot of time and did a beautiful job of putting this together. It contains a lot of pics of Caylee I have never seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiQK700P8nM
Lorakai
09-02-2008, 11:34 PM
According to the 400 pg Docs which is now public record. Here is a list of players compiled from those documents and other sources of all currently involved, witnesses, sworn statements etc. mentioned and recorded:
(I have included abbreviations to use on WS)
I could use some help filling in the blanks or corrections of this list.
My eyes are playing tricks on me now! Been working on it for a few hours.
The ones left blank may not have been released in the doc, but are possible witnesses. Either that, or I just haven't gotten to it yet... ty
Caylee Marie Anthony
Missing 3yr old
Casey Marie Anthony
Mother of missing Caylee 3yr old
(GA) George Anthony
Father of Casey, Grandfather to Caylee
(CA) Cindy Anthony
Mother of Casey, Grandmother to Caylee
(LA) Lee Anthony
Brother to Casey, Uncle to Caylee
(JB) Attorney Baez
Defense Atty for Casey Anthony
(AM) Amanda Macklin
Sawgrass Apartments Office Manager
(HG) Harry L. Garcia
Leasing Agent on 6/17/08 ZG Sawgrass Apt. Application
(SO) Stacey Arrington Oaks
Tenant of #210 at Sawgrass
(JO) Joseph Oaks
Tenant of #210 at Sawgrass
(DT) Dave Turner
Maintenance man at Sawgrass
(LT) Leonardo Turtora
Universal Studios assisting Investigator
(RB) Rosanna Bonilla
Lives at the address Casey gave to police as a possible location of Zenaida Gonzalez
Neighbor to Ricardo Morales
(TL) Anthony M. Lazarro
Boyfriend of Casey Anthony. Casey worked with TL managing the "shot girls" of Fusian Ultra Lounge for him. Disc Jockey at Fusian Ultra Lounge. Full Sail student.
(AH) Amy J. Huizenga
Friend to Casey Anthony. Casey was to be roomies with Amy till Casey stole about $1000 from Amy who revealed the deceptive behavior of Casey. Says Casey lies a lot. Girlfriend of Ricardo Morales. Roomies of J.P. Chatt and Morales. Went to Puerto Rico with them, while Casey borrowed Amy's car, helped Cindy find Casey who had been missing for a month.
(RM) Ricardo Morales
Ex-boyfriend, now friend to Casey Anthony
(JPC) J.P. Chatt
Friend of Casey's and Amy's, lived with Ricardo
(JG) Jessie Grund
Ex-boyfriend, Ex-fiance', Acted as father to Caylee
(CH) Roy Clinton House
a.k.a. Clint House -roommate of Tony Lazzaro
(KMC) Kristina Marie Chester
Close friend to the Anthony family and Casey
(ZFG) Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez
TBD
(ZG) Zenaida Gonzalez
Suspect in kidnapping named by and according to Casey Anthony
Lives in Kissimmee, Motel 6 goes by the name Beba on myspace
Came forward in a media interview as "not that Zenaida"
Questioned by Law Enforcement
(GZ) Gloria Gonzalez
Mother of Zenaida Gonzalez named by and according to Casey Anthony
(SG) Samantha Gonzalez
Sister to Zenaida Gonzalez named by and according to Casey Anthony
(VG) Victor Gonzalez
Stepfather of Zenaida Gonzalez named by and according to Casey Anthony
(ZR) Zenaida Rosado
Named by Law Enforcement a.k.a. Zenaida Gonzalez
(CR) Carmelo Rosado
(RF) Raquell Farrell
Roommate of Zenaida Gonzalez named by and according to Casey Anthony
(JR) Jennifer Rosa
Roommate of Zenaida Gonzalez named by and according to Casey Anthony
(RP) Ryan Pasley
Friend of Casey Anthony
(KJTC) Kiomarie J Torres Cruz
Old friend of Casey Anthony
(BB) Brian Burner
Neighbor to the Anthony's home, lent Casey a shovel during the time in question.
(DC) Danny Colamarino
Tattoo parlor owner. Tattoo artist, questioned by LE. Casey was a customer in his shop.
(MK) Maria Kishh
Clint's girlfriend, aquaintance of Casey Anthony
(JD) Jonathan Daly
Tattoo artist, long time friend of Casey Anthony
Claims Casey revealed that in July Ricardo Moralez was her boyfriend per Casey
Claims Casey said Caylee's father was in the military par Casey
Claims Caylee was conceived from a one night stand per Casey
(SD) Sean Daly
Aquaintance of Casey Anthony
(AD) Annie Downing
Friend to Sean Daly, claims Casey and Caylee spent the night at Ricardo Moralez's place in June. Also states Sean received a phone call from Casey's cell on July 16th, 2008
(MH) Mark Hawkins
In the military, active duty stationed in Cali. was communicating almost daily with Casey
Said Casey told him she was going to make a trip to Cali
Said Casey needed to tell him something and wasn't sure how he would react
(AMC) Ann Marie Chase
Mother of Mark Hawkins last saw Casey at Target on July 10th, 2008
(BW) Bobby Lee Williams
Tattoo artist, completed Casey's Bella Vida" tattoo on shoulder, last saw Casey on July 15th, 2008
His boss is Danny Colamarino, Casey scheduled another appointment for July 19, 2008
(CW) Charles Lance White
Knows Casey from the tattoo parlor where he was training Sean Daly how to do piercings
Claims Casey never brought Caylee into the shop
(MC) Matthew Allen Crisp
Friend of Casey, showed Tony Lazzaro and Casey an Apartment at Casey's request
Says he met both and filled out a contract form, Caylee was not present at the time
(DLA) Danielle E. Lucey-Austin
Manager at Chuck E. Cheese. Turned over a VHS tape of the entrance for July 15th, 2008
Possible sighting of Caylee
(ES) Eli Sleiman
Possibly sighted Caylee Anthony at Chuck E. Cheese Tuesday July 15th, 2008 near the Telephone Game. He said the little girl was located in the middle towards the rear ofthe building, she had two pony tails, seemed in good health, but did not seem happy. After seeing the local news on July 17th, 2008 he then reported he was 99.9% sure that it was Caylee Anthony.
(WDW) Wanda Denise Wery
Sighted Caylee Anthony at Orlando International Airport on July 2, 2008
Helped LE to create a composite sketch of the woman seen with Caylee
Turned over to the FBI for further investigation...
(NH) Nicholas Marlin Hunt
Son of Wanda Wery, conversed with Caylee at Orlando International Airport on July 2, 2008
Helped LE to create a composite sketch of the woman seen with Caylee
Turned over to the FBI for further investigation...
(ME) Michael Erickson
(SF) Stephen Fusco
(TF) Thomas Franck
The name appears in an email received by Casey. They have not found this to be a legitamate email. A person with the last name of "Franck" is in her facebook friends list.
(TM) Tom Manley
Outcry witness for Casey Anthony who supposedly was headof events at Universal during her time of employment. (not found by LE)
(*TM) Tom Mattson
Head of events department Universal Studios was found to be Mattson.
(JL) Juliette Lewis
Outcry witness for Casey Anthony. According to Casey she worked with Juliette. Casey claims she told both Jeff Hopkins and Juliette Lewis that Casey was missing (not found by LE)
(JMH) Jeffrey Michael Hopkins
This is the Jeffrey, Casey said she told about Caylee. This Jeff is the one Casey says in her handwritten statement connected her to ZFG, because she watched his son. Police questioned a Jeffrey Dale Hopkins II
(JH) Jeffrey D. Hopkins (found by LE)
Father of Jeffrey Hopkins II, claims he knows all of his sons friends and does not know Casey.
(MH) Melissa Berry Hopkins
Mother of Jeffrey Hopkins II, claims she knows all of her sons friends and does not know Casey.
(JHII) Jeffrey Dale Hopkins II
This is the man police were trying to find to question him. His parents were questioned instead. The parents confirmed they do not know Casey or Caylee, and Jeff D. Hopkins II cell phone was out of service.
(SB) Simon A. Birch
Johnson Wrecker man who says the smell he noticed in Casey's car was the odor of decomp. Threw the white trash bag containing a pizza with maggots over the fence of the tow yard.
(GR) Gary Calvin Ridgeway
(CS) Catherine Sanchez
Reported Casey's car to be towed from the Amscot
(NL) Nicole Lorraine Lett
Spoke with George on July 15th, 2008 to make arrangements to pick the car up at the tow yard. She directed George to Simon Birch who led George to the vehicle where the both noticed an odor.
(BC) Barbara J. Carey
(BS) Brittany Schieber