There wasn't a babysitter, Casey didn't have a job, where were they during the day?

[absolut_alexis]

Okay, Cindy said that there was a babysitter that came to the house, and then Casey switched to Zanie. We know there is no Zanie and no job for Casey, but clearly -- Casey was leaving the house going somewhere when she was supposed to be working. Where was she going, and where was Caylee during this time?

[LI_Mom]

Left in the car while she partied?

Dragged around with her mother WHILE she was partying?

Heck, this Casey is such a nut, she could have stowed her in a storage unit while she was out playing.

[Hailiejade77]

the only thing about this is,.. Caylee was almost three. IF GM asked her what she did during the day (like I suspect she did) Caylee would have told her I am sure. My daughter tells ME what she did during the day and I am with her 24/7 and she is only two!

[feddup]

And...Caylee was old enough to mention Zanaida if she took care of her. i have never heard Cindy say Caylee talked about her, just Casey:rolleyes:
Where was she? I have a feeling she was more like an exotic dancer somewhere, from the pics we've seen, she wouldve been good at it. But who took care of Caylee, they make good money she couldve afforded a good babysitter. One with references, etc.
Was she doing something under the table, illegal? That she couldnt tell the parents? She dfinately didnt have a real job and I cant believe Cindy when she says she lived at home but didnt have to pay rent, food, etc
She never once expected her daughter to contribute to groceries? wow!!
What a moooch Who paidfor Caylees pediatrician? Meds? clothes, etc?
Her parents are supposed to go visit her today I hope they get the TRUTH out of her! I doubt it though:behindbar

[Amberjack]

Has anyone asked Cindy or George what Casey's "job" was?
Who paid for the "nanny?

Dancer/escort...Very possible.
Or doing online or telephone work for one of these "services"

(Casey told Tony her job at "Universal" had her doing work online)

[SusieClue]

Has anyone asked Cindy or George what Casey's "job" was?
Who paid for the "nanny?

Dancer/escort...Very possible.
Or doing online or telephone work for one of these "services"

(Casey told Tony her job at "Universal" had her doing work online)

I absolutely agree...escort or phone "entertainer"? or online "entertainer" to "promote" nightclubs? Basically it boils down to a seedy occupation. Who knows where poor little Caylee was or who she was in the company of...it boggles the mindd.

[Dr. Pennypacker]

Has anyone asked Cindy or George what Casey's "job" was?
Who paid for the "nanny?

Dancer/escort...Very possible.
Or doing online or telephone work for one of these "services"

(Casey told Tony her job at "Universal" had her doing work online)

WEBCAM???
:Banane37:

[feddup]

WEBCAM???
:Banane37:

that could be....usually they have the money sent to a P.O. box # so parents wouldnt have known.
Cindy was told she worked at Universal but the Police found out she had been fired, I think. She hadnt worked there in a long time.
Something about taking pics......

[Amberjack]

I found it very odd that Lee asks Casey if she went to "Universal" for work or fun...In reference to losing her TWO phones......

[MD MOMMY]

Whatever she was doing she wasn't making loads of money. OR she was and used it to pollute her body..nice way of saying drugs but who knows. IMO if she made a lot of money her closet wouldn't be full of Walmart/Target brand clothes. OKAY maybe her closet wasn't full of these clothes but obviously the clothes they obtained in the search warrant were worn recently.

She's obviously very concerened about her appearance ie..different hairstyles/colors etc. Clothes in my book to her would have been important..she is young and lives in a trendy area. IMO if she had money her wardrobe would have showed it.

[MD MOMMY]

I found it very odd that Lee asks Casey if she went to "Universal" for work or fun...In reference to losing her TWO phones......

find that quote and read into it..She actually said it a little differently..that quote has bothered me.

[MD MOMMY]

Here I found the quote..it's worded weird back to the whole code thing...


LEE: So you were up there for fun or whatever?

CASEY: It wasn’t necessarily fun, but yes not through work at that moment…

LEE: I’ve got you, ok, I understand.

[Fandy]

yes, i found this to be a weird statement too......(speaking in code)? what does Lee know about her *employment*.....and wouldn't Cindy be aware of Caylee's activities....

2-3 year olds are always very chatty, or was Caylee a little behind verbally?

[feddup]

Whatever she was doing she wasn't making loads of money. OR she was and used it to pollute her body..nice way of saying drugs but who knows. IMO if she made a lot of money her closet wouldn't be full of Walmart/Target brand clothes. OKAY maybe her closet wasn't full of these clothes but obviously the clothes they obtained in the search warrant were worn recently.

She's obviously very concerened about her appearance ie..different hairstyles/colors etc. Clothes in my book to her would have been important..she is young and lives in a trendy area. IMO if she had money her wardrobe would have showed it.

This is true, I know a young woman a little older than Casey who DOES work and she buys $300 designer name purses and her main hobby is shopping and not cheap places either.

[weasel]

Not really sure if this is true or a rumor, but didn't it come out that Casey had stolen $45,000 from her mother's credit card? If this is true, what did she spend that much money on? That's a huge sum of money in about a month's time.

[Fandy]

There were some questions early on as to it being $45,000 or $4,500. I can't see the Anthony's having that big of a credit line....NG may have made an error. can someone verify the actual amount?

[redmamatwo]

I don't think they ever had proof of the amount of money that was taken. I think there was some speculation on it, but it wasn't proven.

[maya.morgen]

Left in the car while she partied?

Dragged around with her mother WHILE she was partying?

Heck, this Casey is such a nut, she could have stowed her in a storage unit while she was out playing.

Yep,probably.:furious:

[Amberjack]

We lie when the truth is too painful...too shameful.

[LunaRaptor]

There were some questions early on as to it being $45,000 or $4,500. I can't see the Anthony's having that big of a credit line....NG may have made an error. can someone verify the actual amount?

Don't know if I can verify it, but I believe someone went back and listened to the NG tape and decided she said 4 to 5 thousand...

[Vegas Bride]

I've thought about this question a lot, imo Casey was showing no signs of wanting to work period! It didn't matter if it was a legitimate job or something on the shady side, her "job" was in creating a fantasy and pushing the envelope to see how far she could go with it.
If she was working at something that had to be kept secret from her parents, then she would have had money. On the days when she put out the appearance of going to work, I think she spent the time going to visit her friends, going to the beach or roaming around the area just hanging out. I recall a friend saying how she always had Caylee with her and if she had to pretend she was taking her to the nanny it makes sense. In pictures of Caylee it shows a lot of Disney items, if they had annual passes she could have been hanging around there also, or at the Universal Studios. Local residents can buy the pass for very little, she would not need a lot of money go go.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out Casey did some shoplifting, with a little toddler with her she could have gotten away with a lot, she could then have her mother think she was spending her paycheck on the things she lifted.
The Orlando area is filled with a ton of places to find employment, a young woman like Casey could have found a job as a waitress, she could have made good money on tips. It really bothers me that she never graduated highschool, by this time she should have gotten her ged. I see no signs of Casey wanting to do anything more than what she was doing, getting by with her parents paying the bill. She was not putting herself out one bit to provide for her daughter. imo she used her parents, she used her friends and she used her daughter, she will use anybody she can to get what she wants.

VB

[CASuzk]

I've wondered about the high school thing as well. If Caylee was born in Aug. when Casey was 19, why didn't Casey finish high school? Many schools these days even have daycare for babies born to students and home teachers are available for students who can't come to school. At 7 months PG, Casey could have, and should have graduated

[teedie2]

Vegas Bride, all that lying was harder work than working, if only Casey knew.

[Vegas Bride]

Vegas Bride, all that lying was harder work than working, if only Casey knew.
Yes exactly! If she had used her energy for something productive she actually could have something to show for it now. We know she spent time on-line also, now all of us here spend time on-line so I don't want it to sound like if you spend time on-line you're a loser, but she should have been doing so much more. She's 22 now, did she not think of where she was going to be when she was 30?

Now I'm no psycic, but I feel pretty sure in where she's going to be when she turns 30 :behindbar

Everything with this story is such a waste, including what Casey has done with her own life.

VB

[Vegas Bride]

I've wondered about the high school thing as well. If Caylee was born in Aug. when Casey was 19, why didn't Casey finish high school? Many schools these days even have daycare for babies born to students and home teachers are available for students who can't come to school. At 7 months PG, Casey could have, and should have graduated

The story I heard on that was, Casey was short 1/2 credit so she didn't graduate. Come on now, if you're that close it can be taken care of with very little work. My sister had a baby when she was 16, she had help, some work had to be done at home but the work got done and she graduated with her class. Casey had a family that helped her, she had opportunities to better herself, she was not a young mother who was having to do it on her own. Without a highschool diploma what kind of job did she think she was ever going to get? Oh I forgot, she only planned to have pretend jobs. :furious:

VB

[Tricia]

You guys are so far ahead of me I swear :blowkiss:

Here is a post I wrote to start a thread about this but when I saw this thread I decided to add my post here.

Here it is and it may be stupid but here goes:

Cindy and George said Casey went to work, every day. When I saw George interviewed he said the last time he saw the both of Caylee and Casey together they were heading out to "work" and both had their backpacks on.

Somebody out there knows what Casey did every day she was suppose to be at work. Somebody knows what Casey did with Caylee when Caylee went to "work" with her.

We have yet to hear from anybody who can tell us where Casey was when she was suppose to be at work.

Casey did something. Every time she pretended to go to work Casey did something with someone or more than one person.

One of our brilliant posters mentioned that Caylee would have told her grandma what they did during the day when Caylee wasn't at grandma and grandpa's. Like any almost three year old she would blab and chatter about everything.

Casey, on the days she took Caylee to "work" had to do something with Caylee that wouldn't raise suspicions about her day.

Just thinking out loud here.

That's why I believe there are one or more key people that we don't know about yet. My guess is they have gone to the police.

Where did Casey and Caylee go when Casey took her to "work" with her?

There is one big chunk of info we don't have yet. Hopeful we will soon.

[curiositycat]

She probably just hung out with friends for a while during the day. If I remember right George said that the last time he saw Casey and Caylee was the 16th of June @ 1:20 PM. Sounds like she partied all night and got up in the afternoon and started the whole thing over again.

[amethyst221]

It also seems, from what little we know, that Casey sometimes came back home when she knew her parents were out.

[NighTillDawn]

Well who watched Caylee while Casey was in a drunken stooper passed out all night? God knows when Casey woke up. Is it possible that Caylee had an accident while Casey was passed out from her drunken stooper, and when Casey woke up she found Caylee's body? She couldn't contact her parents or her brother, so she panicked and got rid of the body. I believe someone out there knows more than they're saying. It's just a matter of time before someone breaks or they find a body.

[Fandy]

George and Cindy were her built-in nighttime sitters....didn't they state as much when replying to the fact that Casey had options?

During the day G &C went to work (as tricia says), Casey probably put herself on a different schedule purposely....she may have been in that mode where she went to friend's houses who were also unemployed to do a little partying, (Caylee in tow)?

I thought I read somewhere where it was said that Caylee was subdued in speech? if this can be found, could her speech have been stunted because she was exposed to drugs?

but then I read where Caylee learned to count to 32 in Spanish...so maybe it was a sporadic thing, drugging her.

JMO of course...my brain is spinning too after all this time.

[Chezhire]

You guys are so far ahead of me I swear :blowkiss:

Here is a post I wrote to start a thread about this but when I saw this thread I decided to add my post here.

Here it is and it may be stupid but here goes:

Cindy and George said Casey went to work, every day. When I saw George interviewed he said the last time he saw the both of Caylee and Casey together they were heading out to "work" and both had their backpacks on.

Somebody out there knows what Casey did every day she was suppose to be at work. Somebody knows what Casey did with Caylee when Caylee went to "work" with her.

We have yet to hear from anybody who can tell us where Casey was when she was suppose to be at work.

Casey did something. Every time she pretended to go to work Casey did something with someone or more than one person.

One of our brilliant posters mentioned that Caylee would have told her grandma what they did during the day when Caylee wasn't at grandma and grandpa's. Like any almost three year old she would blab and chatter about everything.

Casey, on the days she took Caylee to "work" had to do something with Caylee that wouldn't raise suspicions about her day.

Just thinking out loud here.

That's why I believe there are one or more key people that we don't know about yet. My guess is they have gone to the police.

Where did Casey and Caylee go when Casey took her to "work" with her?

There is one big chunk of info we don't have yet. Hopeful we will soon.

how about this thought: they went to Universal a lot - easy to cover up - Caylee talks about the park, Casey laughs and says she has time for Caylee there, etc.

[Fandy]

How much are 2 day tix. to Universal? isn't this an expensive option for an unemployed person?

[joanofarc]

THIS IS THE HOUSE IN WHICH CASEY KEPT HER KID. WITH RANDOM MEN ON FLOOR.


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[Vegas Bride]

How much are 2 day tix. to Universal? isn't this an expensive option for an unemployed person?

Fandy, no one who lives around there would buy 2 day tickets, local Florida residents who can show a Florida drivers licence would buy an annual pass imo. They are much cheaper than tickets a tourist from out of state could buy. I just did a quick search on-line and you can buy a 12 month pass for Universal plus Islands of Adventure for 114.95 so thats just barely over 10 a month for 2 parks.
One year I visited Orlando 3 maybe 4 times, I bought an annual pass for Disney World, expensive to begin with but with being there so much it actually saved me a lot of money, plus I got free parking with an annual pass.

VB

[Chezhire]

How much are 2 day tix. to Universal? isn't this an expensive option for an unemployed person?

not if by night she's "promoting" clubs (i.e., another "job" of hers) and gets free tix in exchange...not to mention that she supposedly spent thousands of dollars running up her mother's credit cards...

[TxRose]

Don't you have to think Casey either didn't have a job...and supported herself stealing off of friends and family - or she worked somewhere seedy/illegal? I say no regular job because with all the publicity around this case, and her face plastered everywhere, wouldn't someone have come forward and said "Hey - I worked with her!" or "she works here"? I haven't seen anyone do that, which I find strange.

[MD MOMMY]

What I find funny is during the at home interview with Cindy and George..Cindy showed Casey's room and said how Caylee slept with Casey every night...HIGHLY doubt that. AS if she was home at 8 or 8:30 when most toddlers go to sleep..just another lie among the various others I reckon.

[TxRose]

What I find funny is during the at home interview with Cindy and George..Cindy showed Casey's room and said how Caylee slept with Casey every night...HIGHLY doubt that. AS if she was home at 8 or 8:30 when most toddlers go to sleep..just another lie among the various others I reckon.

I agree. It sounds like Casey was gone at night alot...at least on weekends. So I doubt Caylee slept there every night. I can believe however that she slept there when her mom was actually home.

[Fandy]

I agree. It sounds like Casey was gone at night alot...at least on weekends. So I doubt Caylee slept there every night. I can believe however that she slept there when her mom was actually home.

So the *Mother of the Year* left her to sleep with GM & GP? (that's what I think was possible for the most part, since Cindy stated she was raising her).

when Casey took off, with Caylee the responsibility of being an actual parent overwhelmed her?

[Vegas Bride]

What I find funny is during the at home interview with Cindy and George..Cindy showed Casey's room and said how Caylee slept with Casey every night...HIGHLY doubt that. AS if she was home at 8 or 8:30 when most toddlers go to sleep..just another lie among the various others I reckon.

I think there were certain nights such as Saturdays when Casey went out to party late at the clubs, I don't think she went out every single night. During the week Casey had plenty of time to have fun with her friends when she was supposedly working. It wouldn't be late nights but it gave her many hours to live it up. I haven't heard much about her friends, surely some of them did have real jobs they had to go to didn't they?

VB

[Bobby62]

In one of his interviews, possibly the 18 minute one taped the day Casey refused his visit, Lee said that he had verified that Casey had a job. He said he had traced it back as far as the first of the year and had seen no reason to trace it further. He refused to divulge what it was. He said he had been asked by LE not to. Sorry I cannot remember which interview...

Adding. IF she was working legitimately, who really watched Caylee at that time?

[Bosco]

Found this posted by "dave" on Orlando Sentinel's 2nd article after this story broke, around July 17. For what it's worth . . . .

"I've seen this young lady and child in my place of work (I quit June 6, so not since the disapearance). The child was exuberant happy and healthy, a very pleasant child (and I don't usually like small children). The mother looked like a crack addict, and it was obvious that someone other than her was taking good care of the child. It wouldn't surprise me if she sold her child for drugs.

This is such a sad story at this point, we certainly don't need another trenton. My prayers to the grandparents and hopes for a happy ending."

[thatswhatshesaid]

Found this posted by "dave" on Orlando Sentinel's 2nd article after this story broke, around July 17. For what it's worth . . . .

"I've seen this young lady and child in my place of work (I quit June 6, so not since the disapearance). The child was exuberant happy and healthy, a very pleasant child (and I don't usually like small children). The mother looked like a crack addict, and it was obvious that someone other than her was taking good care of the child. It wouldn't surprise me if she sold her child for drugs.

This is such a sad story at this point, we certainly don't need another trenton. My prayers to the grandparents and hopes for a happy ending."

Does Casey look like a crack addict to anyone else? I didn't think she looked like a user (if she'd been using long). If he hadn't identified he recognized them both I would wonder if the woman he described was someone Casey had left Caylee with while she "worked".

Also, I wonder if she told her parents that she was paid by commission on her "event planning", to throw them off of why she didn't have regular checks and was often broke.

[CASuzk]

In most amusement parks, annual passes are scanned when the person on the pass enters the park. It should very easy to verify if Casey was at Universal and what days she entered park *if* she had a pass.

[CASuzk]

Does Casey look like a crack addict to anyone else? I didn't think she looked like a user (if she'd been using long). If he hadn't identified he recognized them both I would wonder if the woman he described was someone Casey had left Caylee with while she "worked".

Also, I wonder if she told her parents that she was paid by commission on her "event planning", to throw them off of why she didn't have regular checks and was often broke.

No, she does not look like a long term crack or meth user, her teeth are too good.

[Vegas Bride]

Does Casey look like a crack addict to anyone else? I didn't think she looked like a user (if she'd been using long). If he hadn't identified he recognized them both I would wonder if the woman he described was someone Casey had left Caylee with while she "worked".

Also, I wonder if she told her parents that she was paid by commission on her "event planning", to throw them off of why she didn't have regular checks and was often broke.

I had an interesting talk the other day with one of the trustees at the jail I work at, we were discussing Casey and the possibility of drug use. He thought it was very possible she was into meth, He'd been into meth himself and said it did not change his looks, not everyone who uses it gets the "meth" look. I've wondered also if Casey got into some type of drug use recently and wasn't a long time user.
Something was using up a lot of money, wasn't it 1,000. she stold from her friend plus thousands with her mothers credit card! Where's the money trail?

VB

[Tracey]

Does Casey look like a crack addict to anyone else? I didn't think she looked like a user (if she'd been using long). If he hadn't identified he recognized them both I would wonder if the woman he described was someone Casey had left Caylee with while she "worked".

Also, I wonder if she told her parents that she was paid by commission on her "event planning", to throw them off of why she didn't have regular checks and was often broke.


-- Could it be possible there is someone that watched Caylee that was a loser crack addict of sorts for free and/or or more drugs (maybe Casey was involved with something illegal)....

Perhaps that doesn't change the possibility of all the other theories of what happened to Caylee just adds a new dimension to her shady characters.. hence Zanny the
Nanny instead of being a drug is instead a druggie that doesn't mind "watchin" Caylee while Casey works.. esp if Zanny the
Nanny wants whatever Casey is getting......

maybe Casey wasn't hard core anything but tied into the wrong types and bad decisions and putting her child in harms way...

[txsvicki]

I don't believe that Casey took Caylee out late at night while she partied. The only time frame that we know that Caylee didn't spend nights at the Anthony's are the days that Casey and Caylee were at Tony's. George said on Greta that they saw Caylee everyday. I believe that the grandparents watched Caylee at night after work and Casey pretended to have a job for the past 1 1/2 years, but had just begun taking Casey with her to Tony's. Of course, we don't know what the arrangements were when Casey was with Jesse.

There was a statement from Cindy on Fox news.com saying that Casey was to be with a sitter for only 4 hours, then George later told that Casey said she probably wouldn't be home that night due to having to work late. Does anyone know if this is yet another inconsistency or if Caylee normally only stayed with "the sitter" for only 4 hours?

[french75]

Does Casey look like a crack addict to anyone else? I didn't think she looked like a user (if she'd been using long). If he hadn't identified he recognized them both I would wonder if the woman he described was someone Casey had left Caylee with while she "worked".

Also, I wonder if she told her parents that she was paid by commission on her "event planning", to throw them off of why she didn't have regular checks and was often broke.

She doesn't look like a hardcore drug user to me at all. There are obviously many pictures of her floating around and at worst she looks drunk. I think if there was any drug use, it was probably small time.

[Amberjack]

Found this posted by "dave" on Orlando Sentinel's 2nd article after this story broke, around July 17. For what it's worth . . . .

"I've seen this young lady and child in my place of work (I quit June 6, so not since the disapearance). The child was exuberant happy and healthy, a very pleasant child (and I don't usually like small children). The mother looked like a crack addict, and it was obvious that someone other than her was taking good care of the child. It wouldn't surprise me if she sold her child for drugs.

This is such a sad story at this point, we certainly don't need another trenton. My prayers to the grandparents and hopes for a happy ending."

My latest scenario: A xxx video store..."Up there" near Universal Studios. Sex, drugs and credit cards.
Maybe an office/back room where Caylee could play/sleep.
And pocketing the money Cindy gave her for the "babysitter"

[french75]

My latest scenario: A xxx video store..."Up there" near Universal Studios. Sex, drugs and credit cards.
Maybe an office/back room where Caylee could play/sleep.
And pocketing the money Cindy gave her for the "babysitter"

I think it's probably something more along those lines.

[Stoelly]

Can't we search some webcam sites? Just a thought. (p.s. I just googled this, let the LE search her computer for any links to this. I am not paying money for that!)

I don't think Casey worked at all. I think she was party girl/mooch. She didn't have expensive things, she partied all the time. Heck, when I was 21/22, that was all I wanted to do. And yes, I was young and stupid.

[YellowDog]

Perhaps she was turning tricks and leaving Caylee in the car and she died of heat exposure. Her clients would not want to come forward and expose the fact that they were paying for sex and violating the law. Someone, also, could have abducted Caylee out of the car.

Another scenario...........she left the baby with her "pimp" and he absconded with the child. She couldn't find him when she came back and he had given her a false name.

[Vegas Bride]

If Casey was doing anything to earn money such as turning tricks, she could have afforded to pay a real babysetter. She could have taken her to daycare. Imo whatever Casey was doing did not involve her making any real money.
Many years ago when I was a kid, my very first babysitting job was for a little girl who was 3 or 4, her mother was a dancer and she needed someone to watch her when she went to work for a few hours before her husband came home. She didn't leave her alone or locked up inside the car while she was at the strip club. She was making money so she could afford to see her daughter was being watched.

VB

[LI_Mom]

What I find funny is during the at home interview with Cindy and George..Cindy showed Casey's room and said how Caylee slept with Casey every night...HIGHLY doubt that. AS if she was home at 8 or 8:30 when most toddlers go to sleep..just another lie among the various others I reckon.

Or Caylee slept in Casey's bed waiting for her to stumble home at night?

[LI_Mom]

In one of his interviews, possibly the 18 minute one taped the day Casey refused his visit, Lee said that he had verified that Casey had a job. He said he had traced it back as far as the first of the year and had seen no reason to trace it further. He refused to divulge what it was. He said he had been asked by LE not to. Sorry I cannot remember which interview...



I hate to say it but this just doesn't seem very likely.

No reason to trace IT (what's it, anyway?) further? When you're supposed to be looking for a missing child you don't investigate up until you reach a dead end???? :rolleyes:

And LE doesn't want anyone to know that Casey had an actual 'job?' Yeah right.


It sounds more like Casey's family trying very hard to paint a better picture of Casey.

Mother of the Year....... WITH a job! Whatta girl.

[redmamatwo]

I don't think they ever had proof of the amount of money that was taken. I think there was some speculation on it, but it wasn't proven.

sorry, I misspoke before, the money was taken, but they couldn't prove what amount was taken. More than one figure is out there, and no one ever said how much definatively. SOrry;

[YellowDog]

If Casey was doing anything to earn money such as turning tricks, she could have afforded to pay a real babysetter. She could have taken her to daycare. Imo whatever Casey was doing did not involve her making any real money.
Many years ago when I was a kid, my very first babysitting job was for a little girl who was 3 or 4, her mother was a dancer and she needed someone to watch her when she went to work for a few hours before her husband came home. She didn't leave her alone or locked up inside the car while she was at the strip club. She was making money so she could afford to see her daughter was being watched.

VB

But when she first left home, she may not have had any money. Didn't she steal the gas cans from her parents house? And Caylee hasn't been seen since shortly after she left home.

[Vegas Bride]

But when she first left home, she may not have had any money. Didn't she steal the gas cans from her parents house? And Caylee hasn't been seen since shortly after she left home.

Exactly, that's why I don't think she was doing things like working as a hooker, if she was, then she could have bought gas etc.

VB

[YellowDog]

I meant she could have started working as a hooker after she left home, not before.
She had been stealing money, gas, credit cards, etc. and knew that wasn't going to last forever. She needed to make some money to avoid having to move back home.

[wedavis]

yes, i found this to be a weird statement too......(speaking in code)? what does Lee know about her *employment*.....and wouldn't Cindy be aware of Caylee's activities....

2-3 year olds are always very chatty, or was Caylee a little behind verbally?

I think Casey is trying to say she was there searching for Caylee.

And maybe Casey is technologically savvy. Maybe she wants people to believe she lost her phone so that if any suspicious calls were made or it gets ping'd in areas she doesn't want people to know about she can just tell LE "hey that phone wasn't in my possession."

[wedavis]

You guys are so far ahead of me I swear :blowkiss:

Here is a post I wrote to start a thread about this but when I saw this thread I decided to add my post here.

Here it is and it may be stupid but here goes:

Cindy and George said Casey went to work, every day. When I saw George interviewed he said the last time he saw the both of Caylee and Casey together they were heading out to "work" and both had their backpacks on.

Somebody out there knows what Casey did every day she was suppose to be at work. Somebody knows what Casey did with Caylee when Caylee went to "work" with her.

We have yet to hear from anybody who can tell us where Casey was when she was suppose to be at work.

Casey did something. Every time she pretended to go to work Casey did something with someone or more than one person.

One of our brilliant posters mentioned that Caylee would have told her grandma what they did during the day when Caylee wasn't at grandma and grandpa's. Like any almost three year old she would blab and chatter about everything.

Casey, on the days she took Caylee to "work" had to do something with Caylee that wouldn't raise suspicions about her day.

Just thinking out loud here.

That's why I believe there are one or more key people that we don't know about yet. My guess is they have gone to the police.

Where did Casey and Caylee go when Casey took her to "work" with her?

There is one big chunk of info we don't have yet. Hopeful we will soon.

I'm starting to believe this probably wasn't really an issue if Caylee was killed on or about the 16th.

[Truly]

In one of his interviews, possibly the 18 minute one taped the day Casey refused his visit, Lee said that he had verified that Casey had a job. He said he had traced it back as far as the first of the year and had seen no reason to trace it further. He refused to divulge what it was. He said he had been asked by LE not to. Sorry I cannot remember which interview...

Adding. IF she was working legitimately, who really watched Caylee at that time?
I found your post, Bobby, in the thread entitled The Real World: Employment Facts and Records. http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68021&page=2 Thanks again for researching this extremely distorted aspect of this case. Casey IS employed, apparently. The title of this thread (Casey didn't have a job) is highly misleading, if not blatently false.


(http://websleuths.com/forums/member.php?u=33203)Bobby62 (http://websleuths.com/forums/member.php?u=33203)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cjm11
here is raw video of lee explaining casey's work. go to about the 17 minute mark.
http://www.wftv.com/video/17101975/

Lee said that she had been working for a company that provodes services to Universal as an event coordinator. He said he has researched it back as far as the beginning of this year and she was working there. LE asked him not to divulge the company publicly. He also said she was on vacation time on June the 16th. This link is from 8-6-08.

[Tricia]

I found your post, Bobby, in the thread entitled The Real World: Employment Facts and Records. http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68021&page=2 Thanks again for researching this extremely distorted aspect of this case. Casey IS employed, apparently. The title of this thread (Casey didn't have a job) is highly misleading, if not blatently false.

I'm confused. How can you say Casey IS employed if she took the cops to Universal, got all the way to the offices and said, "Well, I was fired" or words to that effect.

Casey admitted she did not have a job with Universal. Even if she did have a job with Universal as some sort of event planner that let her work at home why in the world did she take the cops on this wierd fantasy tour of her former work place?

I feel like I am missing a big part of what you are trying to say.

[ThoughtFox]

Casey, on the days she took Caylee to "work" had to do something with Caylee that wouldn't raise suspicions about her day.

Just thinking out loud here.

That's why I believe there are one or more key people that we don't know about yet. My guess is they have gone to the police.

Where did Casey and Caylee go when Casey took her to "work" with her?

There is one big chunk of info we don't have yet. Hopeful we will soon.
Tricia: I agree - I keep waiting for someone - anyone! - to come forward and talk about what Casey actually did every day. No one is alone all day every day. Of course, if she had shady friends, they are probably hiding every way they can, but on the other hand, that would be a good reason to make a deal and cooperate with the police.

So you have to be right that we just don't have the big picture yet.

[karenz]

Just wanted to throw this out there.

Who do you all think was watching Caylee if not Zanny?

Was KC taking her with her everywhere she went?

I find it hard to believe that KC took Caylee everywhere. I love my kids but I occasionally need a break.

GA/CA worked all day right?

[catherineb]

Just wanted to throw this out there.

Who do you all think was watching Caylee if not Zanny?

Was KC taking her with her everywhere she went?

I find it hard to believe that KC took Caylee everywhere. I love my kids but I occasionally need a break.

GA/CA worked all day right?

If you don't have a job, you don't need a babysitter.

She did have her parents watch Caylee a lot from what I've read.

[Lady Loves Lurking]

I think she did take here everywhere. I take my kid everywhere. I don't have a job, either.

[frrlk]

Just wanted to throw this out there.

Who do you all think was watching Caylee if not Zanny?

Was KC taking her with her everywhere she went?

I find it hard to believe that KC took Caylee everywhere. I love my kids but I occasionally need a break.

GA/CA worked all day right?

I, too, have been extremely curious about this. She hasn't worked in 2 years. If both grandparents were working, where was Caylee during the day, if not with Casey?

[seeker78]

This question has perplexed me this entire case. If Caylee wasn't with Casey OR Cindy/George, who was she with?

1. Chloroformed/drugged, somewhere Casey thought she'd be safe but not under adult supervision.

2. Someone she nicknamed Zenaida/Zanny or someone really named Zenaida that disappeared.

3. Someone else she trusted that Cindy/George didn't know about or didn't approve of, someone from another compartment of her life that none of her other friends knew about

4. A relative of the father's, whoever he may be

At this point, I don't know which it would be ... I *don't* think it's #2 though.

[Lady Loves Lurking]

I think if Casey really did leave Caylee with someone that person would have come forward. I think we would know their name by now.

I think Casey most likely kept Caylee with her. The Chloroform is connected, I'll betcha but I seriously doubt it was used to put Caylee out on a regular basis. How does a layman know how to use Chloroform? I think Chloroform was the murder weapon and Casey is keeping quite mum because I doubt skeletal remains will show any trace of Chloroform.

[mrstewart]

IMO, she probably drugged her and the television was her friend when they were at home. KC does not seem like "hands on" mom. Well, not that way, anyway.

[lizzie_april]

I think I read at one point Jesse G's family watched her for a little while. I think I read that on here somewhere. Anyone have a link to that?

[Praying for Caylee]

This may have already come up on another thread, but when Nate and Clint were being interviewed by NG & Greta, they both stated that Caylee could count to 25 in Spanish and that she learned it by watching Dora. I have to disagree with this as my kids have watched Dora for years and Dora never counts that high in Spanish or English for that matter! She had to of learned it from some place else--A Spanish speaking babysitter possibly?

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

I have been wondering this too...........I have been waiting for someone to come forward who has said that they say Casey and Caylee together during the day; at the beach, at the park, somewhere.

I can't beleive she drove around all day while the rest of the world thought she was at work.

I have to think that someone who saw her during the day has contact LE, and that has just not been released yet.

Someone is not being truthful in the A household. Clues of Casey not having a job would be everywhere and not just the money issues....CA never tried to call Casey at work? She would have a landline at her pretend job and when Casey never gave her a number to that landline, I would think that Cindy would call Universal information and ask for her daughters extension.

Just thinking out loud, but this has bothered me from the get go......how C and G could be snowed for 2 years......2 years they thought Casey had a job and a nanny?

Just doesn't make any sense.....none.:bang:

[Insomnia Momma]

This may have already come up on another thread, but when Nate and Clint were being interviewed by NG & Greta, they both stated that Caylee could count to 25 in Spanish and that she learned it by watching Dora. I have to disagree with this as my kids have watched Dora for years and Dora never counts that high in Spanish or English for that matter! She had to of learned it from some place else--A Spanish speaking babysitter possibly?


Bolded part by me.


My kiddos watch Dora and they can count to 50 in spanish. Between Dora and Diego they do get up there in the numbers. The episode this morning went to 25 in coins. My 4 yr old son was counting along with Dora as I watched the bond hearing. We have no spanish speaking people in our family and don't live anywhere near spanish speaking people either. The environment Calylee would have been in had more spanish speaking people and most likely that reinforced the numbers and most likely other words for her such as colors.

I speak french and my husband can speak german, my kids can't speak a lick of either language. We're not as interesting as Dora though :crazy:


As far as who babysat... I think Casey kept Caylee with her. If she said her schedule started at 10 am most times (like in the fake e-mail in the documents) then she'd only have to be gone from the house for a few hours with her a day. George works 2nd shift and Cindy said in the bond hearing that she worked first shift. From what I remember she said she got home after 5 pm. She had no money to pay anyone prior to turning pro theif so I doubt Caylee was with anyone else.

All JMHO, of course.

[Rose Mom]

This may have already come up on another thread, but when Nate and Clint were being interviewed by NG & Greta, they both stated that Caylee could count to 25 in Spanish and that she learned it by watching Dora. I have to disagree with this as my kids have watched Dora for years and Dora never counts that high in Spanish or English for that matter! She had to of learned it from some place else--A Spanish speaking babysitter possibly?

Wow thats pretty good for a 2-3 year old to count that high in any language !!! My son is 3 and DID learn colors and counting in Spanish from Dora and Diego but he could never get past 10.

Has anyone one thought that Zanny could be "Nanny", thats what my older kids called their paternal grandma.

Isn't J Ortiz mother's name Zenaida ?

If anyone was watching her from 2 years or so ago..... who would take on the care of a 1 year old that is in diapers and babyfood and naps and all that goes with it, except Maybe a grandparent ........

[catherineb]

Bolded part by me.


As far as who babysat... I think Casey kept Caylee with her. If she said her schedule started at 10 am most times (like in the fake e-mail in the documents) then she'd only have to be gone from the house for a few hours with her a day. George works 2nd shift and Cindy said in the bond hearing that she worked first shift. From what I remember she said she got home after 5 pm.

I totally agree. She took Caylee to whatever lover's apartment in the day too - remember TonE saying that she could "work from home"? I'm sure she told her parents that she could work from home. Some days she apparently got all dressed up for work (GA's description) and left....GA left for work shortly after and Casey most likely brought Caylee back to her parents house to go swimming and hang out while she surfed the net. These are only my opinions but seems likely.

[Bobby62]

I forget the lady's name but she was interviewed a few times as a family friend. She was also standing next to Cindy for arrest #2. She said that she watched Caylee and Casey watched her children some.

Arrest #2 was my favorite so far

[monoxide]

Wow thats pretty good for a 2-3 year old to count that high in any language !!! My son is 3 and DID learn colors and counting in Spanish from Dora and Diego but he could never get past 10.

Has anyone one thought that Zanny could be "Nanny", thats what my older kids called their paternal grandma.

Isn't J Ortiz mother's name Zenaida ?

If anyone was watching her from 2 years or so ago..... who would take on the care of a 1 year old that is in diapers and babyfood and naps and all that goes with it, except Maybe a grandparent ........

Lets don't accuse more innocent people over something Casey did

[Rose Mom]

Lets don't accuse more innocent people over something Casey did
I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm stating a name, you seem to have an issue with that too ? Have you posted your above message on everybody's theories ?

[Hunnydolll]

Is it possible she would make believe she was leaving for work, and then came back when her parents left for their jobs?

[jeannebreault]

I have been wondering this too...........I have been waiting for someone to come forward who has said that they say Casey and Caylee together during the day; at the beach, at the park, somewhere.

I can't beleive she drove around all day while the rest of the world thought she was at work.

I have to think that someone who saw her during the day has contact LE, and that has just not been released yet.

Someone is not being truthful in the A household. Clues of Casey not having a job would be everywhere and not just the money issues....CA never tried to call Casey at work? She would have a landline at her pretend job and when Casey never gave her a number to that landline, I would think that Cindy would call Universal information and ask for her daughters extension.

Just thinking out loud, but this has bothered me from the get go......how C and G could be snowed for 2 years......2 years they thought Casey had a job and a nanny?

Just doesn't make any sense.....none.:bang:
I think you win the Understatement of the Day Award!:thumb:
Someone is not being truthful in the A household.
We'll have to find out from one of the mods where you can claim your prize!:gold_crown:

[Melly53]

IMO Casey did NOT have a job and both Cindy and George knew it. In Cindy's July 3rd MySpace blog/post she wrote "No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?" There was no job and no nanny IMO.

[Melly53]

Wow thats pretty good for a 2-3 year old to count that high in any language !!! My son is 3 and DID learn colors and counting in Spanish from Dora and Diego but he could never get past 10.

Has anyone one thought that Zanny could be "Nanny", thats what my older kids called their paternal grandma.

Isn't J Ortiz mother's name Zenaida ?

If anyone was watching her from 2 years or so ago..... who would take on the care of a 1 year old that is in diapers and babyfood and naps and all that goes with it, except Maybe a grandparent ........

J Ortiz mother's name is Olga!

[Brini]

There were some questions early on as to it being $45,000 or $4,500. I can't see the Anthony's having that big of a credit line....NG may have made an error. can someone verify the actual amount?

Rick said he thought it might have been closer to $25,000.

[Sassynic]

Not really sure if this is true or a rumor, but didn't it come out that Casey had stolen $45,000 from her mother's credit card? If this is true, what did she spend that much money on? That's a huge sum of money in about a month's time.

Yes and supposedly, per other threads on this subject, Cindy had to pay it off using her 401K. Still no word officially about what KC used the money for.

[Sassynic]

I wonder where she was too. What really bothers me is not knowing where her and Caylee slept at night during the time she was staying with Tony. From what I understand, Caylee never stayed overnight at his house. That really really bothers me. I have a suspicion she was sleeping in the car and at some point and it wouldn't surprise me if Casey used a sleep agent such as Nyquil to knock Caylee out to sleep all those nights. I cannot imagine a 2 year old being well behaved and quiet in a car overnight. :(

[LuluBelle]

If Casey hasn't had a job since 2006, Universal, where was she getting money, just to live on. I know she did not have to pay rent, food, utilities, etc. But you need some money just for everyday use, to get a soda, clothes, etc. Where did that come from? Who was paying her cell phone bill? I know she paid a large ATT bill, but if you don't pay for a couple of months your service gets cut off. And if she said that Universal was paying the bill, her parents weren't paying it. If she put this on a credit card that was not hers, don't you think someone would have noticed it after a year or so?

[catherineb]

If Casey hasn't had a job since 2006, Universal, where was she getting money, just to live on. I know she did not have to pay rent, food, utilities, etc. But you need some money just for everyday use, to get a soda, clothes, etc. Where did that come from? Who was paying her cell phone bill? I know she paid a large ATT bill, but if you don't pay for a couple of months your service gets cut off. And if she said that Universal was paying the bill, her parents weren't paying it. If she put this on a credit card that was not hers, don't you think someone would have noticed it after a year or so?

She is a thief. IMO, I'm sure she lifted money from friends and begged and borrowed from her parents, friends, and brother ...and read up - she stole A LOT from her parents and her grandmother. She stole gas for the car...I'm sure her many BF's supplemented her as well.

[TURBOTHINK]

I don't think they ever had proof of the amount of money that was taken. I think there was some speculation on it, but it wasn't proven.

If they had a credit card with that kind of line of credit - WHY were their house payments so far behind they were close to foreclosure? Something is not right with this story.

[lorynne34]

This is how I understand the babysitting dilemna. Casey moved Caylee out with her on the 9th to get away from her divorcing parents (lie). When she realized that the partying and Caylee didn't go together well, she started taking her back to CAs house. She couldn't tell her friends that she was having CA or GA watch the kid because of the previous lie, so she made up Zenaida. Caylee didn't stop going to CAs house until around the 15th when CA got mad because Casey was spending all of her nights out without Caylee (speculation). After that big fight, Caylee disappeared and Casey started telling CA that the baby was with Zenaida since she already had practice with that lie.

[Jolynna]

Wow thats pretty good for a 2-3 year old to count that high in any language !!! My son is 3 and DID learn colors and counting in Spanish from Dora and Diego but he could never get past 10.

Has anyone one thought that Zanny could be "Nanny", thats what my older kids called their paternal grandma.

Isn't J Ortiz mother's name Zenaida ?

If anyone was watching her from 2 years or so ago..... who would take on the care of a 1 year old that is in diapers and babyfood and naps and all that goes with it, except Maybe a grandparent ........

Jesus O.'s mother's name according to the obit is Olga.

[tiredofthis]

Is it possible she would make believe she was leaving for work, and then came back when her parents left for their jobs?

I would bet money on it.

[Amberjack]

"Supposedly" whenever Cindy asked Caylee about the babysitter...
Caylee described the dog!?

[Jolynna]

I think the "officers" who admitted to having sex with Casey are a clue.

What Casey was doing at Universal that wasn't work and wasn't fun is also a clue.

I think Casey was earning money doing what Monica L. (the one of blue dress fame) is known for doing.

No apartment needed.

No need for a babysitter, Caylee could wait in the car with a book & toys.

Enough could be earned for target dresses and some gas money or to buy drinks but Casey would need to steal to impress Tony and send her friends on trips. (I doubt Casey worked any more than she had to at her "job" or did it more than she had to.)

It would explain a passing aquaintenance with a woman in her late 30's that didn't live in her neighborhood.

IMO

[Breaking Heart]

I wonder where she was too. What really bothers me is not knowing where her and Caylee slept at night during the time she was staying with Tony. From what I understand, Caylee never stayed overnight at his house. That really really bothers me. I have a suspicion she was sleeping in the car and at some point and it wouldn't surprise me if Casey used a sleep agent such as Nyquil to knock Caylee out to sleep all those nights. I cannot imagine a 2 year old being well behaved and quiet in a car overnight. :(

I doubt that KC put Caylee in a car while she was out doing whatever each night, especially over a 2yr period. IMO, the Florida heat would have killed Caylee at some point. But, I too, would love to know what/where Casey was all these times she was 'going to work'.

[TURBOTHINK]

The story I heard on that was, Casey was short 1/2 credit so she didn't graduate. Come on now, if you're that close it can be taken care of with very little work. My sister had a baby when she was 16, she had help, some work had to be done at home but the work got done and she graduated with her class. Casey had a family that helped her, she had opportunities to better herself, she was not a young mother who was having to do it on her own. Without a highschool diploma what kind of job did she think she was ever going to get? Oh I forgot, she only planned to have pretend jobs. :furious:

VB

I don't believe the 1/2 credit story either. That is Cindy's tale, I sit on mine.

She dropped out when she was 16, so my guess is she had little or no credits toward graduation. There are hundreds of online high schools in Florida, so if she only lacked a few credits those could have quickly been made up.

The woman was 19 when Caylee was born so she had been out of school for 3 years........WHAT is the story on that?

[kh1967]

I forget the lady's name but she was interviewed a few times as a family friend. She was also standing next to Cindy for arrest #2. She said that she watched Caylee and Casey watched her children some.

Arrest #2 was my favorite so far

It was a neighbor/friend of the family. The initials are HG. I wonder where she stands now?

[CiCi]

I wonder where she was too. What really bothers me is not knowing where her and Caylee slept at night during the time she was staying with Tony. From what I understand, Caylee never stayed overnight at his house. That really really bothers me. I have a suspicion she was sleeping in the car and at some point and it wouldn't surprise me if Casey used a sleep agent such as Nyquil to knock Caylee out to sleep all those nights. I cannot imagine a 2 year old being well behaved and quiet in a car overnight. :(

I was just thinking th same thing... that both Casey and Caylee may have spent some nights sleeping in the car. Ane of course, if this is true, than Casey would not have wanted Caylee to tell grandma about this, so very possible she was knocking her out with Nyquill or some other means (chloroform).

[TURBOTHINK]

I think the "officers" who admitted to having sex with Casey are a clue.

What Casey was doing at Universal that wasn't work and wasn't fun is also a clue.

I think Casey was earning money doing what Monica L. (the one of blue dress fame) is known for doing.

No apartment needed.

No need for a babysitter, Caylee could wait in the car with a book & toys.

Enough could be earned for target dresses and some gas money or to buy drinks but Casey would need to steal to impress Tony and send her friends on trips. (I doubt Casey worked any more than she had to at her "job" or did it more than she had to.)

It would explain a passing aquaintenance with a woman in her late 30's that didn't live in her neighborhood.

IMO


I think you are on to something there. I personally believe she most likley is a meth addict. That is standard procedure for meth addicts to get their drugs.

[kh1967]

If Casey hasn't had a job since 2006, Universal, where was she getting money, just to live on. I know she did not have to pay rent, food, utilities, etc. But you need some money just for everyday use, to get a soda, clothes, etc. Where did that come from? Who was paying her cell phone bill? I know she paid a large ATT bill, but if you don't pay for a couple of months your service gets cut off. And if she said that Universal was paying the bill, her parents weren't paying it. If she put this on a credit card that was not hers, don't you think someone would have noticed it after a year or so?

Apparently she stole and borrowed from many different people over a long period of time.:mad:

[kh1967]

I wonder where she was too. What really bothers me is not knowing where her and Caylee slept at night during the time she was staying with Tony. From what I understand, Caylee never stayed overnight at his house. That really really bothers me. I have a suspicion she was sleeping in the car and at some point and it wouldn't surprise me if Casey used a sleep agent such as Nyquil to knock Caylee out to sleep all those nights. I cannot imagine a 2 year old being well behaved and quiet in a car overnight. :(

It is sickening to think about what really went on for the poor baby at night time.:mad:

[Hope for the Best]

I doubt that KC put Caylee in a car while she was out doing whatever each night, especially over a 2yr period. IMO, the Florida heat would have killed Caylee at some point. But, I too, would love to know what/where Casey was all these times she was 'going to work'.

I don't think it would have been over a 2 year period. It sounds like up until a week before she disappeared, she had stayed with C & G most of the time, except maybe when she stayed with Ricardo, and the three of them slept together, per Ricardo's testimony. EWW! But, you are right, the Florida heat would have killed her, and it probably did.

[tttterri]

Casey told Amy and Tony she had 10 to 15000 in the bank, which was saved up for Caylee. She prob accessed Caylees trust fund that Cindy prob had and took that money. She could have put it somewhere else in another bank. Not that she didnt spend any of it later, but maybe she did indeed remove that amt using her moms cards and info, plus we do not know she did spend it all. Maybe thats whats she is paying Baez with.

[Short_Stuff]

I guess she was out shopping all day with other peoples money and then partying all night and sleeping with men.
It just amazes me that no one knew where Casey was. I know where my kids are 99% of the time (and they are grown but I talk to my daughter daily, my son 3 times a week), And I certainly know who babysits my grandkids and I have her address and phone number.
I find it HARD to believe her parents didnt know she wasnt working.
They must be one disfunctional family.

[YellowDog]

Could she have been meeting clients (men) in the parking lot of Universal Studios? Remember when Lee asked her if she was at Universal working or for other reasons? It was almost like she and Lee were speaking in code.

[krimekat]

No, she does not look like a long term crack or meth user, her teeth are too good.

I agree . . . no crack, no meth . . . teeth too perfect

[marellano]

I just spent some time today looking at Orlando escort websites. I didn't see any photos of Casey, but ugh....I need a shower.

[krimekat]

Rick said he thought it might have been closer to $25,000.

and I read where Cindy cleaned out her 401(k) stash to "help" KC -- most likely from Rick posts

[Rose Mom]

Jesus O.'s mother's name according to the obit is Olga.


I'm sorry someone posted this yesterday


http://www.nysun.com/comments/22794

Submitted by zenaida ortiz, May 7, 2007 16:18


I respect the wishes of those parents who don't wish their children to have any contact with their grandparents. In some cases it is good. But for others like me, who only wants to see her grandchild but is constantly impeded by the other grandparent who has custody--it is not fair. And laws are to protect all grandparents. We cannot pick and chose who will benefit from grandparents rights or not. My situation is unique. The mother of my grandchild is mentally incapacited and her mother (the other grandmother) is a Jehova Witness and for some reason does not particularly want me to see my grandchild on a regular basis. There have been issues relating to the safety of the child because of the parent's emotional state and she has been violent and is under a doctor's care. I had the occasion of speaking with Child Welfare Bureau agency staff and so has my son who currently resides in Florida. I want to be a part of this child's life. She does know me and tells me she loves me. This relationship should not be taken away. My religion is different and I do not hold it against them. I feel I should be in her life so I can keep track of her and see for myself that she is being provided for in a loving, healthy manner. My grandchild needs to know she is also loved by the family of her father even though he cannot physically live in the area.

[Brini]

and I read where Cindy cleaned out her 401(k) stash to "help" KC -- most likely from Rick posts

Yes. Rick said she had to go into her 401K to cover the thefts.

[Brini]

I think you are on to something there. I personally believe she most likley is a meth addict. That is standard procedure for meth addicts to get their drugs.

I think KC is too vain of her looks, to mess with meth.

Meth constricts the blood vessals. So, the tissues becom e starved.

That's why the teeth rot quickly from the roots. That's also why meth users often end up aging 20 years in a few years.

I don't think KC is addicted to anything. She didn't have to be detoxed, when she was in jail.

[Sassynic]

I doubt that KC put Caylee in a car while she was out doing whatever each night, especially over a 2yr period. IMO, the Florida heat would have killed Caylee at some point. But, I too, would love to know what/where Casey was all these times she was 'going to work'.

But how about overnight? It gets down to 70ish here in central FL overnight about spring/fall. Summer could be hotter.

Either way, I really am curious where they stayed overnight all those times that she left Tony's house with Caylee.

[Sassynic]

I was just thinking th same thing... that both Casey and Caylee may have spent some nights sleeping in the car. Ane of course, if this is true, than Casey would not have wanted Caylee to tell grandma about this, so very possible she was knocking her out with Nyquill or some other means (chloroform).

I was mulling over the chloroform/sleep theory but it wouldn't make sense because chloroform only knocks a person out for a few mins at a time. It's not used to put someone to sleep all night. Nyquil or something like that would have been cheaper, easier to use, and would have done that job.

My suspicion is that she used the chloroform to kill Caylee without blood or screaming. *shudder*.

The use of the chemical will come out in trial since LE has the search terms she used when she was researching it.

JMO

[Sassynic]

I think you are on to something there. I personally believe she most likley is a meth addict. That is standard procedure for meth addicts to get their drugs.

I have to disagree. She doesn't appear physically to be a meth addict. No suken cheeks, sores, ect. Also, she would have gone thru some major withdrawl sickness from her stints in jail. We would have seen her come out looking absolutely terrible.

I don't think she was/is addicted to anything. But I do believe she dabbled in drugs. Maybe weed and ectasy like some others have mentioned.

[Sassynic]

I just spent some time today looking at Orlando escort websites. I didn't see any photos of Casey, but ugh....I need a shower.

They also advertise on Craigslist....

[TURBOTHINK]

Casey told Amy and Tony she had 10 to 15000 in the bank, which was saved up for Caylee. She prob accessed Caylees trust fund that Cindy prob had and took that money. She could have put it somewhere else in another bank. Not that she didnt spend any of it later, but maybe she did indeed remove that amt using her moms cards and info, plus we do not know she did spend it all. Maybe thats whats she is paying Baez with.

That bimbo didn't have a dime. That was ALL a lie just like all the others. She was trying to impress Tony...........She also told Amy she was getting the Anthony's house and they would live there - but that was not going to happen either unless she planned to kill them.

[MD MOMMY]

Apparently she stole and borrowed from many different people over a long period of time.:mad:

I've always wondered how long actually. We've only seen stuff of late and it doesn't appear KC has a record so I'm wondering if she's been stealing for 2 plus years..that is a long time for someone to put up with it IMHO.

[TURBOTHINK]

I have to disagree. She doesn't appear physically to be a meth addict. No suken cheeks, sores, ect. Also, she would have gone thru some major withdrawl sickness from her stints in jail. We would have seen her come out looking absolutely terrible.

I don't think she was/is addicted to anything. But I do believe she dabbled in drugs. Maybe weed and ectasy like some others have mentioned.

It takes a number of years to have those symptoms in a young person. You notice them more on women in their 30s. I have observed many young women her age with no appearance of meth addiction, who were very addicted and stole/hooked/etc. to maintain that addiction. She did have some suspicious looking places on her face and shoulders if you blow up some of her pictures.

If she had meth withdrawals it would not be that obvious. The only withdrawal symptoms are tiredness/sleeping for days, hunger/overeating, and depression/the blues. They said she SLEPT all the time when she was in jail, so the more I read, the more I am convinced she was a meth addict.

[Lady Loves Lurking]

They also advertise on Craigslist....

I think it's more accurate to say the real escorts advertise on Craigslist. Them and LE.

Good sleuthing all of you. I swear I read more intelligent conversations then i have.

[TURBOTHINK]

I think KC is too vain of her looks, to mess with meth.

Meth constricts the blood vessals. So, the tissues becom e starved.

That's why the teeth rot quickly from the roots. That's also why meth users often end up aging 20 years in a few years.

I don't think KC is addicted to anything. She didn't have to be detoxed, when she was in jail.

She has ALL CAPPED teeth..........You don't have to be detoxed from meth.

[Sassynic]

It takes a number of years to have those symptoms in a young person. You notice them more on women in their 30s. I have observed many young women her age with no appearance of meth addiction, who were very addicted and stole/hooked/etc. to maintain that addiction. She did have some suspicious looking places on her face and shoulders if you blow up some of her pictures.

If she had meth withdrawals it would not be that obvious. The only withdrawal symptoms are tiredness/sleeping for days, hunger/overeating, and depression/the blues. They said she SLEPT all the time when she was in jail, so the more I read, the more I am convinced she was a meth addict.

We'll know soon enough if prosecutors decide to use that against her in trials to explain her behavior...

[MCDRAW]

I think KC is too vain of her looks, to mess with meth.

Meth constricts the blood vessals. So, the tissues becom e starved.

That's why the teeth rot quickly from the roots. That's also why meth users often end up aging 20 years in a few years.

I don't think KC is addicted to anything. She didn't have to be detoxed, when she was in jail.


How do we know she wasn't detoxed in jail? I'm just wondering, I have a brother that is a drug addict. No one would know he detoxed in jail but the people in jail with him. I'm just wondering if that was in a article somewhere.

[MD MOMMY]

I honestly think KC probably put Caylee to bed at home and went out later just like most people her age do..around 9pm. I think that may have been part of the problem CA had with KC. She probably didn't get back in time in the morning to care for Caylee etc. or if Caylee got up in the middle of the night which happens a lot with 2-3 year olds..night terrors etc.

I remember the interview early on inside the A's house where CA says that Caylee slept almost every night with KC in her bed.. I doubt it considering we know she appeared to not be home often at night.

JMO of course.

[TURBOTHINK]

We'll know soon enough if prosecutors decide to use that against her in trials to explain her behavior...

The defense may use it to defend her, but the prosecutors know what meth addiction does to women. They see it everyday. Women meth and crack addicts trade their little children to pimps for sex to get their drugs.(even babies)

Some of the things I have seen normal people cannot comprehend in their worst nightmares. That is why I put NOTHING past Casey at this point in the investigation from just what I have read.

[Indybabe]

A lot of drugs dealers/runners do not do drugs themselves....so she could have nice teeth and still have been involved in the meth world. It's a possibility that she was dealing, but I'm more inclined to believe Casey was escorting. If she really did have two phones, that's classic for an escort, or a dealer. And most likely, her "work" phone would have been a prepaid one, with no connection to her. With her being as promiscuous as she has been found out to be, I'd bet she wouldn't think twice about escorting. It'll be interesting...if she was escorting, I'd bet quite a bit of it was done on the internet, on her laptop.

[marellano]

They also advertise on Craigslist....

I checked there, too. I don't know how far back the "ads" go, though. I didn't find anything....

[Laece]

Somebody out there knows what Casey did every day she was suppose to be at work. Somebody knows what Casey did with Caylee when Caylee went to "work" with her.

We have yet to hear from anybody who can tell us where Casey was when she was suppose to be at work.

Casey did something. Every time she pretended to go to work Casey did something with someone or more than one person.

That's why I believe there are one or more key people that we don't know about yet. My guess is they have gone to the police.

Where did Casey and Caylee go when Casey took her to "work" with her?

There is one big chunk of info we don't have yet. Hopeful we will soon.

snipped.

or, they haven't gone to police because they were 'customers' of casey's and have a lot to lose.

that's another theory put forth on another thread somewhere, and it's what i've thought all along, since the very beginning.

people lie when they have things to cover up. duh, i know, lol. but as crazy as it sounds, casey is so consumed with what people think of her, especially her parents, that i think she would do anything to hide a lifestyle that would cause them to criticize her. anything.

she would also hide any ammo they would have to try to get custody of caylee, and if they knew she was up to some kind of...shenanigans, they would have an easier time getting her. which i think is even stranger, because it seems the only reason casey wouldn't give caylee to them is not letting them win.

i think a lot of people know at least a little something, but for some reason, don't want to get involved. that's a lot of people with no conscience and something to hide, IMO.

but what do i know?

i really think, even when they come out and give us all an explanation of what happened and who's involved, i'll still second-guess it just because of how this has all played out. i'll always think there's more to it.

[Dr. Pennypacker]

I think the "officers" who admitted to having sex with Casey are a clue. :crazy:

What Casey was doing at Universal that wasn't work and wasn't fun is also a clue. :crazy:

I think Casey was earning money doing what Monica L. (the one of blue dress fame) :crazy::crazy: is known for doing. :eek: :eek: :eek:

No apartment needed. :woohoo:

No need for a babysitter, Caylee could wait in the car with a book & toys.

Enough could be earned for target dresses and some gas money or to buy drinks but Casey would need to steal to impress Tony and send her friends on trips. (I doubt Casey worked any more than she had to at her "job" or did it more than she had to.)

It would explain a passing aquaintenance with a woman in her late 30's that didn't live in her neighborhood.

IMO


Sounds about right ..... all things considered. :dance::Banane22:

[Indybabe]

I checked there, too. I don't know how far back the "ads" go, though. I didn't find anything....

They only go back a month or so, and the poster can delete them at any time.

[diz39]

Fandy, no one who lives around there would buy 2 day tickets, local Florida residents who can show a Florida drivers licence would buy an annual pass imo. They are much cheaper than tickets a tourist from out of state could buy. I just did a quick search on-line and you can buy a 12 month pass for Universal plus Islands of Adventure for 114.95 so thats just barely over 10 a month for 2 parks.
One year I visited Orlando 3 maybe 4 times, I bought an annual pass for Disney World, expensive to begin with but with being there so much it actually saved me a lot of money, plus I got free parking with an annual pass.

VB

Here is another thought. Growing up in Orlando, CA, as I, probably had friends who worked for Disney, Universal and IOA. It used to be no big deal, if you had a friend who worked at the park for them to meet you at the gate and walk you in, thus not having to pay for a ticket. Employees used to be able to do this fro time to time, as a perk of employment. Don't know if it is the same now, though.
I also can't believe that she had been drugging Caylee routinely to keep her quiet during the daytime. I would think Caylee would show some signs of that where the GP's could notice.

[Gaia713]

Okay, Cindy said that there was a babysitter that came to the house, and then Casey switched to Zanie. We know there is no Zanie and no job for Casey, but clearly -- Casey was leaving the house going somewhere when she was supposed to be working. Where was she going, and where was Caylee during this time? Given her behavior, I'd say she was out looking for men to seduce and possibly marry her. She seems to move in REALLY fast on a guy, cooking and cleaning and being all domestic with them. I think she scared off a lot of guys with that.

[Bobby62]

It was a neighbor/friend of the family. The initials are HG. I wonder where she stands now?

I remeber her name now. She has stood by Cindy as a friend through a lot of this. I bet she is still there. You see her in video backgrounds a lot.

[They'llDanceInHeaven]

Sounds about right ..... all things considered. :dance::Banane22:

What do you mean about a passing aquan. in her late 30? Please explain.
TY

[Brini]

How do we know she wasn't detoxed in jail? I'm just wondering, I have a brother that is a drug addict. No one would know he detoxed in jail but the people in jail with him. I'm just wondering if that was in a article somewhere.

No. But, I think it would have come out, had she been detoxed. Also, she's too calm about going in. No panic re: not getting drugs.

[Brini]

She has ALL CAPPED teeth..........You don't have to be detoxed from meth.

The "detox" comment applies to "don't think she is addicted to ANYTHING, not specifically meth.

Capped teeth still have to have roots. Meth mouth means rotted roots and twisted-looking gums. I'm a nurse. I see a lot of it. It's nasty.

It also prematurely ages the skin, and thins the hair.

[Taed]

Oh I forgot, she only planned to have pretend jobs.

You're belittling it... It wasn't just some random series of low-end pretend jobs, she was on the pretend executive career path! :)

[karenc333]

the only thing about this is,.. Caylee was almost three. IF GM asked her what she did during the day (like I suspect she did) Caylee would have told her I am sure. My daughter tells ME what she did during the day and I am with her 24/7 and she is only two!

Good point. :)

[dcorrigano]

UHHHHH,,, Duh

She was a thief, she stole from friends and family without any remorse at all...
So it would have been even morally easier for her to steal from strangers in clubs...

Professional Pick Pocket...

She wasnt a call girl, she gave that away to too many men for Free!!

[Sassynic]

Here is another thought. Growing up in Orlando, CA, as I, probably had friends who worked for Disney, Universal and IOA. It used to be no big deal, if you had a friend who worked at the park for them to meet you at the gate and walk you in, thus not having to pay for a ticket. Employees used to be able to do this fro time to time, as a perk of employment. Don't know if it is the same now, though.
I also can't believe that she had been drugging Caylee routinely to keep her quiet during the daytime. I would think Caylee would show some signs of that where the GP's could notice.

I know it is still true for Disney.

[mamadofthree]

My question too would be if she had a job and Cindy and George assumed she did, then she would have a work number right? I wonder what she gave them as the number? I know my mom sometimes calls me on my work number and even emails me during the work day. She knows I am at work so she wouldn't call my personal cell# in most cases. saw the fake emails Casey sent to herself (in the 400 docs) and I know my mother would not believe those were real work email addresses. My own mother has the daycare and babysitter info for my kids for emergency purposes and even has met them so they know who she is!!! Wow this family is just something else.

[krimekat]

My question too would be if she had a job and Cindy and George assumed she did, then she would have a work number right? I wonder what she gave them as the number? I know my mom sometimes calls me on my work number and even emails me during the work day. She knows I am at work so she wouldn't call my personal cell# in most cases. saw the fake emails Casey sent to herself (in the 400 docs) and I know my mother would not believe those were real work email addresses. My own mother has the daycare and babysitter info for my kids for emergency purposes and even has met them so they know who she is!!! Wow this family is just something else.

No # for work
No # for the Nanny
No # to where she was living (TonEs or Ricardo's or wherever)

I cannot get over Cindy not having the nanny's # let alone never meeting the nanny who had been watching Caylee for > year!

[Nedthan Johns]

Its my assumption there is going to be a lot of incriminating evidence found on Casey's computer. Chloroform only being a small part of the puzzle.

[FootballMom]

I still think she was involved/employed by an identity theft ring.

1.) Orlando is FULL of tourists, students are easy marks as they are always receiving credit card offers in the mail and not to mention the number of retirees in the area. That is why she is so skilled at forging checks, using another's identity and wiring money just from the routing numbers on a check.
2.) These people are known to drive around with wireless computers and obtain personal information from other people's wireless computers ("she can work from home").
3.) Maybe she had a combination job of picking up men, chloroforming them and stealing their information?
4.) Maybe the "babysitter" is part of the ring and she watches the kids while the others are "working"?
5.) Maybe KC saw something someone else did (obvious for the body if it isn't Caylee's) or owed someone money (also likely). Maybe they kept Caylee to keep KC quiet.
6.) Again - going back to the over and over again discussions of the DNA/Hairs/"LE may be lying to get her to confess"... LE has never, not once said, "the dead body in the car was Caylee". They have said, "The information they have leads them to believe that she may be deceased". They have never confirmed that the hair with the death ring belongs to Caylee - only that her hair and her DNA were present in the car.

I AM SIMPLY THROWING OUT IDEAS FOR THE POINT OF DISCUSSION!! :waitasec: I think KC is TOTALLY responsible for what happened to Caylee (alive or deceased) and she needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law (DP or LWOP). :behindbar

[mamadofthree]

no # for work
no # for the nanny
no # to where she was living (tones or ricardo's or wherever)

i cannot get over cindy not having the nanny's # let alone never meeting the nanny who had been watching caylee for > year!

amen amen amen!

[curiositycat]

I still think she was involved/employed by an identity theft ring.

1.) Orlando is FULL of tourists, students are easy marks as they are always receiving credit card offers in the mail and not to mention the number of retirees in the area. That is why she is so skilled at forging checks, using another's identity and wiring money just from the routing numbers on a check.
2.) These people are known to drive around with wireless computers and obtain personal information from other people's wireless computers ("she can work from home").
3.) Maybe she had a combination job of picking up men, chloroforming them and stealing their information?
4.) Maybe the "babysitter" is part of the ring and she watches the kids while the others are "working"?
5.) Maybe KC saw something someone else did (obvious for the body if it isn't Caylee's) or owed someone money (also likely). Maybe they kept Caylee to keep KC quiet.
6.) Again - going back to the over and over again discussions of the DNA/Hairs/"LE may be lying to get her to confess"... LE has never, not once said, "the dead body in the car was Caylee". They have said, "The information they have leads them to believe that she may be deceased". They have never confirmed that the hair with the death ring belongs to Caylee - only that her hair and her DNA were present in the car.

I AM SIMPLY THROWING OUT IDEAS FOR THE POINT OF DISCUSSION!! :waitasec: I think KC is TOTALLY responsible for what happened to Caylee (alive or deceased) and she needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law (DP or LWOP). :behindbar
You can add to this she worked in a sex ring also. Escort services.

[EastSideOfSaddness]

Here is another thought. Growing up in Orlando, CA, as I, probably had friends who worked for Disney, Universal and IOA. It used to be no big deal, if you had a friend who worked at the park for them to meet you at the gate and walk you in, thus not having to pay for a ticket. Employees used to be able to do this fro time to time, as a perk of employment. Don't know if it is the same now, though.


Also, remember that Casey insisted to the detectives that ZG had at one time, a pass to Universal so it would be very easy for LE to narrow down the search as to which ZG she was talking about.

[Brini]

not if by night she's "promoting" clubs (i.e., another "job" of hers) and gets free tix in exchange...not to mention that she supposedly spent thousands of dollars running up her mother's credit cards...

Yes. She said she was a "promotional model."

[Brini]

So the *Mother of the Year* left her to sleep with GM & GP? (that's what I think was possible for the most part, since Cindy stated she was raising her).

when Casey took off, with Caylee the responsibility of being an actual parent overwhelmed her?

That's what I think.

CA said KC "took Caylee with her so that they could bond." She's never bonded with her child?

And, look what "bonding" got Caylee!.

[Brini]

Does Casey look like a crack addict to anyone else? I didn't think she looked like a user (if she'd been using long). If he hadn't identified he recognized them both I would wonder if the woman he described was someone Casey had left Caylee with while she "worked".

Also, I wonder if she told her parents that she was paid by commission on her "event planning", to throw them off of why she didn't have regular checks and was often broke.

She doesn't look like any crack addict I've ever seen. Doesn't act like one, either.

[Bobby62]

yes, i found this to be a weird statement too......(speaking in code)? what does Lee know about her *employment*.....and wouldn't Cindy be aware of Caylee's activities....

2-3 year olds are always very chatty, or was Caylee a little behind verbally?

In the 18 minute interview Lee gave on the day Casey first refused his visit Lee spoke of her employment. He said he had verified that she was gainfully employed going back to the first of the year. He also said something about how he saw no reason to search into it beyond the first of the year. He refused to give any details about what she was doing for her verifiable gainful employment.
It was at about the 16th minute of this 18 minute interview.

ETA- I just listened to the tape again and did not hear what I stated I heard. Many apologies. If you get a chance to listen to it again, there is a world of difference between how LA acts now and then. IT is amazing

http://www.wftv.com/video/17132496/index.html

[Brini]

Perhaps she was turning tricks and leaving Caylee in the car and she died of heat exposure. Her clients would not want to come forward and expose the fact that they were paying for sex and violating the law. Someone, also, could have abducted Caylee out of the car.

Another scenario...........she left the baby with her "pimp" and he absconded with the child. She couldn't find him when she came back and he had given her a false name.

Then, whose was the body in the car?

[Brini]

find that quote and read into it..She actually said it a little differently..that quote has bothered me.

I think it referenced her trip there with LE.

[Brini]

Not really sure if this is true or a rumor, but didn't it come out that Casey had stolen $45,000 from her mother's credit card? If this is true, what did she spend that much money on? That's a huge sum of money in about a month's time.

Rick said Cindy exaggerates, and it was more like $25, 000. But, that's still huge.

[Brini]

In one of his interviews, possibly the 18 minute one taped the day Casey refused his visit, Lee said that he had verified that Casey had a job. He said he had traced it back as far as the first of the year and had seen no reason to trace it further. He refused to divulge what it was. He said he had been asked by LE not to. Sorry I cannot remember which interview...

Adding. IF she was working legitimately, who really watched Caylee at that time?

Yes, I heard that clip, and it sounded very truthful. But, the Anthonys lie a lot, l so who knows?

And, why lead LE all over Universal, on a goose chase, when one has a REAL job?

[Brini]

I had an interesting talk the other day with one of the trustees at the jail I work at, we were discussing Casey and the possibility of drug use. He thought it was very possible she was into meth, He'd been into meth himself and said it did not change his looks, not everyone who uses it gets the "meth" look. I've wondered also if Casey got into some type of drug use recently and wasn't a long time user.
Something was using up a lot of money, wasn't it 1,000. she stold from her friend plus thousands with her mothers credit card! Where's the money trail?

VB

Not everyone gets the "meth look," but most do. Also, she is able to be very calm, when she wants to do. That's not meth behavior.

[Brini]

I meant she could have started working as a hooker after she left home, not before.
She had been stealing money, gas, credit cards, etc. and knew that wasn't going to last forever. She needed to make some money to avoid having to move back home.

I don't thik she was a pro. Just a very prolific amateur. With a special affinity for uniforms.

[Brini]

I don't believe the 1/2 credit story either. That is Cindy's tale, I sit on mine.

She dropped out when she was 16, so my guess is she had little or no credits toward graduation. There are hundreds of online high schools in Florida, so if she only lacked a few credits those could have quickly been made up.

The woman was 19 when Caylee was born so she had been out of school for 3 years........WHAT is the story on that?

Well, I don't believe in the 1/2 credit story, either. Particularly since at the bond hearing, Cindy said KC has graduated.

You just cannot believe ANTHING these people say.

[Brini]

I think you are on to something there. I personally believe she most likley is a meth addict. That is standard procedure for meth addicts to get their drugs.

No, no. I've never seen a meth addict look that good (I'm nurse). Also, she's way too calm.


Target addict is my guess. Boyfriend addict is prolly the primary problem, though (groceries and presents).

[Brini]

I agree . . . no crack, no meth . . . teeth too perfect

And, her skin and hair. No acne, no thinning. no premature aging. No beginnings of wire-thinness. No consistent hyper behavior, with crashes.

[Brini]

It takes a number of years to have those symptoms in a young person. You notice them more on women in their 30s. I have observed many young women her age with no appearance of meth addiction, who were very addicted and stole/hooked/etc. to maintain that addiction. She did have some suspicious looking places on her face and shoulders if you blow up some of her pictures.

If she had meth withdrawals it would not be that obvious. The only withdrawal symptoms are tiredness/sleeping for days, hunger/overeating, and depression/the blues. They said she SLEPT all the time when she was in jail, so the more I read, the more I am convinced she was a meth addict.

I've seen meth addicts age 20 years in about three years. And, look raddled in six months.

[Brini]

snipped.

or, they haven't gone to police because they were 'customers' of casey's and have a lot to lose.

that's another theory put forth on another thread somewhere, and it's what i've thought all along, since the very beginning.

people lie when they have things to cover up. duh, i know, lol. but as crazy as it sounds, casey is so consumed with what people think of her, especially her parents, that i think she would do anything to hide a lifestyle that would cause them to criticize her. anything.

she would also hide any ammo they would have to try to get custody of caylee, and if they knew she was up to some kind of...shenanigans, they would have an easier time getting her. which i think is even stranger, because it seems the only reason casey wouldn't give caylee to them is not letting them win.

i think a lot of people know at least a little something, but for some reason, don't want to get involved. that's a lot of people with no conscience and something to hide, IMO.

but what do i know?

i really think, even when they come out and give us all an explanation of what happened and who's involved, i'll still second-guess it just because of how this has all played out. i'll always think there's more to it.

If she was dealing in drugs OR "personal services, I think someone would come forward. LE would be happy to work out a sweetheart deal, and LP still has that $50,000 dead or alive reward available.

[Brini]

Given her behavior, I'd say she was out looking for men to seduce and possibly marry her. She seems to move in REALLY fast on a guy, cooking and cleaning and being all domestic with them. I think she scared off a lot of guys with that.

I think so. too. She scared Tony and his predicessor! Moved right in and went "stepford."

[Brini]

I remeber her name now. She has stood by Cindy as a friend through a lot of this. I bet she is still there. You see her in video backgrounds a lot.


Holly? I thought she bailed, after doing an interview.

[Brini]

Its my assumption there is going to be a lot of incriminating evidence found on Casey's computer. Chloroform only being a small part of the puzzle.


I agree. Maybe she THINKS she deleted it! ROFLLOL!

[Brini]

I still think she was involved/employed by an identity theft ring.

1.) Orlando is FULL of tourists, students are easy marks as they are always receiving credit card offers in the mail and not to mention the number of retirees in the area. That is why she is so skilled at forging checks, using another's identity and wiring money just from the routing numbers on a check.
2.) These people are known to drive around with wireless computers and obtain personal information from other people's wireless computers ("she can work from home").
3.) Maybe she had a combination job of picking up men, chloroforming them and stealing their information?
4.) Maybe the "babysitter" is part of the ring and she watches the kids while the others are "working"?
5.) Maybe KC saw something someone else did (obvious for the body if it isn't Caylee's) or owed someone money (also likely). Maybe they kept Caylee to keep KC quiet.
6.) Again - going back to the over and over again discussions of the DNA/Hairs/"LE may be lying to get her to confess"... LE has never, not once said, "the dead body in the car was Caylee". They have said, "The information they have leads them to believe that she may be deceased". They have never confirmed that the hair with the death ring belongs to Caylee - only that her hair and her DNA were present in the car.

I AM SIMPLY THROWING OUT IDEAS FOR THE POINT OF DISCUSSION!! :waitasec: I think KC is TOTALLY responsible for what happened to Caylee (alive or deceased) and she needs to be punished to the fullest extent of the law (DP or LWOP). :behindbar

They confirmed that the "death ring" belonges to one of the Anthony females. Who else is missing? That hair could belong to CA's mom, CA, KC, or Caylee.

[Jolynna]

I agree. Maybe she THINKS she deleted it! ROFLLOL!

I agree with this also.

[Brini]

Also, remember that Casey insisted to the detectives that ZG had at one time, a pass to Universal so it would be very easy for LE to narrow down the search as to which ZG she was talking about.

LE didn't find any ZG associated with Universal, at any time,. LE confronted KC about this.

[Bobby62]

Holly? I thought she bailed, after doing an interview.

She was standing b