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ttrachel04
07-24-2008, 04:48 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,390161,00.html

and the government's been covering up alien contact for 6 decades

Ciara
07-24-2008, 05:03 PM
I read this but I dont believe in aliens so I guess I am a skeptic:)

RainbowsAndGumdrops
07-24-2008, 09:46 PM
It might be fun for a forgotten astronaut to start these stories. :crazy::crazy:

Like they say, it is better to be in the media for any reason than to be forgotten.

Kim Ii
07-24-2008, 10:32 PM
Edgar Mitchell is telling the Truth. Here's a great link to a site which discusses this phenomenon, and more:

http://www.projectcamelot.org/

I have had so-called High Strangeness episodes my entire life. Millions of people around the world report these strange type happenings as well. Another great site to investigate re: the alien phenomenon is THE INTRUDERS FOUNDATION. Mr. Budd Hopkins works with abductees.

Here's a link to his website:

http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/inside.html


One last link: This is a link to the documentary entitled, "TOUCHED." Three abductees discuss their abductions. It took a lot of courage for these three folks to put themselves out there re: their experiences -- more and more folks are speaking out re: their strange experiences.

Here's a link to TOUCHED: http://www.blinddogfilms.com/touched/

Harvard psychiatrist Dr. John Mack worked extensively with abductees and received a helluva lot of flack for doing so by his peers. I so much admired Mack -- unfortunately, he was killed in an auto/pedestrian accident in England a few years ago.

I know this topic is really a hard one for many to wrap their heads around -- it was for ME, too! But even as a young girl, I've always believed there was other Life around the Universe!

A great Italian resarcher, Paola Harris, has a great website re: this subject, too. Just GOOGLE her and you'll find her...

Talisman
07-24-2008, 10:37 PM
Didn't one of the other astronauts say they also believed in UFO's? IIRC it was quite awhile ago. Just can't remember when or who it was ...

Anyway, I have an open mind about it. I have seen some pretty weird things in the sky. That doesn't mean they were UFO's but ... ?

Kim Ii
07-25-2008, 06:35 PM
Talisman,

I read your tag line and feel that somewhere, perhaps, you know more about this than you think!

I always try to be as honest and as forthright as I possibly can be. When I say I 'know' there is other life in this Universe, I KNOW. I'm not a psychotic, I don't hallucinate, I don't drink, I don't sleepwalk, and I don't use drugs (don't smoke either). I realized when I started a thread re: what happened to me the night of June 5, 2004, that there were quite a few WS'ers who had also had moments of high strangeness episodes happen to them, too. Most, however (and I can't say that I blame them), didn't want to discuss it much. But several, however, wrote to me privately and informed me of their experiences.

I would have LOVED to have continued that thread. I will bet dollars to doughnuts many WS'ers would have become enlightened as to their own experiences re: phenomenon, if that thread had expanded.

I found out some 'things' about myself approximately 1-1/2 years ago. During that time, and continuing today, I have met other Experiencers (a term I prefer to use rather than 'abductee').

We are truly not alone in this Universe! We have another Universal family out there; some are truly benevolent, some are not. Others...somewhere in between, just as with us humans.

Monsignor Balducci of the Vatican has voiced his opinion on this subject (he believes) and has stated that, in his opinion (and I second this) 'humans are at the bottom of the spiritual ladder in this Universe.' Most of these Beings have technology far beyond what we have (which explains the 'high strangeness' aspects of this phenomenon -- at least part of it). Many of these Beings are also spiritually enlightened.

There really are some wonderful websites to spend some time at, if you've a mind and have any interest at all in this subject.

I guarantee you -- you won't be bored. :D:rolleyes:

southcitymom
07-27-2008, 06:57 PM
I want to believe! And so, I will.

Kiki
07-27-2008, 07:30 PM
I try to keep an open mind but unless an alien turns up at my doorstep and introduces himself personally I'm wary of stories like this.

cheko1
07-28-2008, 12:27 AM
:laugh::laugh::laugh: That made me laugh!!!!!

I try to keep an open mind but unless an alien turns up at my doorstep and introduces himself personally I'm wary of stories like this.

Kiki
07-28-2008, 08:46 AM
:blowkiss: Cheko1. If one ever drops by I'll post the photos.
:camera: :alien:

mollymil23
07-28-2008, 09:15 AM
I am always amazed that so many will believe in "God" (of some flavor or another) with no proof other than belief and the "I just know God exists" paradigm, but will not even contemplate the possibility that life beyond this infinitesimally small planet (or dimension, for some schools of though) of ours could possibly exist.

From the comments I see above I am actually impressed that everyone seems to at least allow the possibility, which is a rare thing indeed. By this point often you have one or two posters stating adamantly that we (all the inhabitants of this small blue planet) are the only life in all of creation. I applaud websleuthers for at least allowing a skeptic (meaning still open) view of this. I guess that allowing for all possibilities is a large part of being a sleuther...my hat is off and my glass is raised to you all.

gman20001969
07-28-2008, 01:21 PM
I am always amazed that so many will believe in "God" (of some flavor or another) with no proof other than belief and the "I just know God exists" paradigm, but will not even contemplate the possibility that life beyond this infinitesimally small planet (or dimension, for some schools of though) of ours could possibly exist.

From the comments I see above I am actually impressed that everyone seems to at least allow the possibility, which is a rare thing indeed. By this point often you have one or two posters stating adamantly that we (all the inhabitants of this small blue planet) are the only life in all of creation. I applaud websleuthers for at least allowing a skeptic (meaning still open) view of this. I guess that allowing for all possibilities is a large part of being a sleuther...my hat is off and my glass is raised to you all.

Well...

It's hard to say you believe this or that without proof right? I believe in ghosts, yet I don't have explicit proof they exist. At least, not much that I can show to others as undeniable proof.

I like your post. Mostly for the fact that you mentioned 'other dimensions'. If you have different spectrums of light, is it that hard to fathom different dimensions?

But my thoughts on aliens are this. There's scientific proof that our universe is still expanding. That being the case, we are far from the center of orign in our expanding universe. So out of millions of galaxies, solar systems and planets, we are the only ones to have intelligent life?

Better yet, where is the undeniable proof that human life started on this planet? :alien:

reportertype
07-28-2008, 02:41 PM
Well...

It's hard to say you believe this or that without proof right? I believe in ghosts, yet I don't have explicit proof they exist. At least, not much that I can show to others as undeniable proof.

I like your post. Mostly for the fact that you mentioned 'other dimensions'. If you have different spectrums of light, is it that hard to fathom different dimensions?

But my thoughts on aliens are this. There's scientific proof that our universe is still expanding. That being the case, we are far from the center of orign in our expanding universe. So out of millions of galaxies, solar systems and planets, we are the only ones to have intelligent life?

Better yet, where is the undeniable proof that human life started on this planet? :alien:


I totally agree! :)

Elphaba
07-28-2008, 04:35 PM
This isn't new news from Mitchell... he has been saying stuff like this for a while. Think on this though: if the gov't was so awesome in covering up aliens visiting us, then why haven't they hushed Mitchell up, yet? Seriously... if the gov't was serious about hiding something, that man would have long been shut up if what he is saying is true.

lightwaveryder
07-28-2008, 06:49 PM
in re: gov't silencing mitchell i'd like to say this.

the govt knows the game very well, they invented it. Several high profile astronaut type people have written books and done the lecture circuit, but none of them have had proof, real physical evidence. the ones that do, or that acquire, or COULD acquire proof, as soon as they start to flip, an 'accident' occurs.
it's very easy for them to say that someone like mitchell is just trying to get attention, as long as he doesn't have what you call evidence or proof, or a secret recording of someone admitting guilt.




here is a list i have kept a copy of , i don't recall who made it but its a list of people who have been 'removed'.
************************************************** *******************************************


I appreciate all the contributions -- even those of people bullied. For my list compilation to date, I have only those killed or presumed killed while investigating major conspiracies -- some clearly NWO/illuminati potential, some perhaps related to 'big picture conspiracies.'

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Phil Schneider -- claimed witness to an underground battle with 'greys' at Dulce, NM
Strangulation in his home

John O'Neill -- testified on the US hampering investigations of Bin Laden in early '01
Immolation, WTC

Professor Jeong Im -- plus 39 other microbiologists who died under suspicious circumstances 2001-2005
Stabbed in a parking garage


David Kelly — WMD debunker
Suspicious "suicide"

(four of Jessica Lynch's rescuers) Petty Officer First Class David M. Tapper, Lance Cpl. Sok Khak Ung, Spc Josh Daniel Speer, Kyle Edward Williams. The latter three died under odd circumstances. Tapper was killed in Afghanistan.

Joseph Daniel 'Danny' Casolaro -- Journalist writing about Dulce events Suspicious "suicide"

Mark Lombardi — conceptual artist working on revealing Bush financial fraud

James Hatfield — author, working on an unauthorized bio of GW Bush
"suicide"

Bob Stevens — photo editor at American Media
Anthrax "letter"

Steve Kangas — writer and liberal website owner
Suspicious "suicide"

William Cooper — radio host, author, activist and conspiracy theorist
Shot by Sheriffs deputies in plain clothes

Cats Falck — journalist investigating arms and high tech trafficking

Michael Zebuhr — student 9/11 researcher
"hit"

James Forrestal — Secretary of the Navy and anti-Communist and possibly anti-Zionist
Suspicious "suicide"

Dr. Eugene Mallove — physicist and proponent of Cold Fusion
murdered

Robin Cook — British cabinet member who resigned over Iraq
Suspicious heart attack

Paul Klebnikov — journalist investigating Chechen rebels' ties to a Russian tycoon
murdered

Jude Kemper — documentary filmmaker pursuing Dick Cheney 'Satanic allegations'
disappeared

Gary Webb — journalist who revealed the CIA/crack cocaine connection
Suspicious "suicide"

Terry Yeakey — cop alleged to have found very suspicious evidence at the OK City bomb site
suspicious "suicide"

Michael Loudenslager — GSA employee at the Murrah building. Seen rescuing people in the morning, but found dead at his desk in the bombed building days later.

Dr. Don Chumley, Jack Colvert, Jackie Majors and Buddy Youngblood all died unusual deaths after the OK City bombing. All had seen Loudenslager aiding in the rescue.

Adamo Bove & Costas Tsalikidis — Italian engineers who had eavesdropped on CIA, SISMA, secret service and others involved in illegal torture, among other things.
"suicide"


I can't validate the things on that list, but one I can validate that isn't on there, all of the working rocket scientists on the team of dr wehrner von braun, died within a week of each other, under various circumstances, and dr von braun was known to have leaked information to different people. (he was also hitlers main rocket scientist, imported to the us under project paperclip, this is verifiable as well.)



enjoy
~lwr~

Kiki
07-29-2008, 02:59 AM
I believe in life on other planets but I am very skeptical that they are visiting us? If they are what is behind their strange attraction to farms and lonely roads?

gman20001969
07-29-2008, 12:49 PM
Man I tell you wut. A couple of my favorite people to check out are Billy Meier and Alex Collier. Thier stories of the 'alien conspiracy' are different from each other, but have strange similarities. One speaks of an alien race that had created us through genetics. We became unruly and had to flee the control of these overseers (can you say, (Star Trek; Space Seed episode?).

Both stories are...entertaining. If you have a couple of hours to devote to it, watch the videos from Alex Collier on his site that I pasted below.

**spoiler**
A lot of dates that he has stated aliens were going to show themselves, WW3 was going to start, or a total cataclysm have come and gone.


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_andromedacom.htm

If you have another day, you can look at Billy's site (there's many) that holds info on what he is talking about:

http://www.crystalinks.com/billy_meier.html

Lisahas2cats
07-29-2008, 02:27 PM
I believe in life on other planets but I am very skeptical that they are visiting us? If they are what is behind their strange attraction to farms and lonely roads?

Don't forget anal probes.:waitasec:

Rudolf
07-30-2008, 04:58 PM
I think we could be like the galactic Disneyland(but messier). Maybe they just book a berth on the Princess star ship and come on over for a vacation. Cruise around, see what the Earth is up to.

ConfusedPopsicle
07-31-2008, 11:20 AM
Lol, I've always figured we were like that "untouched" Amazon tribe that was such a big deal awhile back.

Kiki
07-31-2008, 11:34 AM
We can't call ourselves untouched, ConfusedPopsicle. Anal probes are the mother of being touched.

ConfusedPopsicle
07-31-2008, 11:46 AM
Haha, yeah I know. That's why I said "untouched" just like that Amazon tribe was "untouched".

NewMommy09
07-31-2008, 06:17 PM
William Cooper — radio host, author, activist and conspiracy theorist
Shot by Sheriffs deputies in plain clothes.


Is this the William Cooper who wrote "Behold A Pale Horse"?
That book was amazing. There were things in that book that just "felt true" when I read them, no other way to explain it. I read the book in 1998 and it was already quite old. When 9-11 happened I remembered reading something "What IF there were a terrorist attack in NYC".

If this is the same William Cooper, I wanted to add that he was also in the Navy, Airforce, Special Forces, etc. His book spans from info about alien life forms, to JFK, to FEMA, to the Bush family and other subjects.

enlightenme
08-01-2008, 08:31 PM
I believe in life on other planets but I am very skeptical that they are visiting us? If they are what is behind their strange attraction to farms and lonely roads?


I just want PROOF. Scientific, undenable proof. There is some belief in a warp in time/space so how do we know it's not "us", from another time, visisting "us"? Just let me know when there's proof out there that I can touch, see, believe. TIA!

angelwngs
08-01-2008, 09:20 PM
Talisman,

I read your tag line and feel that somewhere, perhaps, you know more about this than you think!

I always try to be as honest and as forthright as I possibly can be. When I say I 'know' there is other life in this Universe, I KNOW. I'm not a psychotic, I don't hallucinate, I don't drink, I don't sleepwalk, and I don't use drugs (don't smoke either). I realized when I started a thread re: what happened to me the night of June 5, 2004, that there were quite a few WS'ers who had also had moments of high strangeness episodes happen to them, too. Most, however (and I can't say that I blame them), didn't want to discuss it much. But several, however, wrote to me privately and informed me of their experiences.

I would have LOVED to have continued that thread. I will bet dollars to doughnuts many WS'ers would have become enlightened as to their own experiences re: phenomenon, if that thread had expanded.

I found out some 'things' about myself approximately 1-1/2 years ago. During that time, and continuing today, I have met other Experiencers (a term I prefer to use rather than 'abductee').

We are truly not alone in this Universe! We have another Universal family out there; some are truly benevolent, some are not. Others...somewhere in between, just as with us humans.

Monsignor Balducci of the Vatican has voiced his opinion on this subject (he believes) and has stated that, in his opinion (and I second this) 'humans are at the bottom of the spiritual ladder in this Universe.' Most of these Beings have technology far beyond what we have (which explains the 'high strangeness' aspects of this phenomenon -- at least part of it). Many of these Beings are also spiritually enlightened.

There really are some wonderful websites to spend some time at, if you've a mind and have any interest at all in this subject.

I guarantee you -- you won't be bored. :D:rolleyes:

:) Spiritual Enlightenment... :) Nice Concept...

It reminds me of my own choice of belief...

I choose to imagine the Afterlife and where one 'ends up' as relative to how well they lived life on Earth. When one looks into the night sky, at all of the visible stars and considers the that our Sun is one star, I do not understand how anyone could believe that there is only Earth inhabiting life forms such as our own. I think the Afterlife might indeed be similar to the 7 circle of Hell in Dante's Inferno. If we live our life here on Earth in Goodness and Learning the lessons we were placed here to learn, maybe we progress onward to a planet in another solar system with a level more advanced than our own. If we choose to become a serial killer, we drop to the bottom rung on the ladder and have to move our way back up... or maybe they are just obliterated into space dust... I think I like that option better...

Anyhow, I do not for a second narcissistically believe that humans on this Earth are as good as it gets...:)

LinasK
08-01-2008, 09:41 PM
I want to know why this story is news now??? If this guy really believes it, why is this the first we've heard of his claims??? Doesn't give him much credibility in my book.:snooty:

angelwngs
08-01-2008, 10:17 PM
I want to know why this story is news now??? If this guy really believes it, why is this the first we've heard of his claims??? Doesn't give him much credibility in my book.:snooty:

Ok... I certainly see your point. Now I want to know your opinion. Do you believe that there is only life on Earth or elsewhere in the Universe as well??? :waitasec:

LinasK
08-01-2008, 11:02 PM
Ok... I certainly see your point. Now I want to know your opinion. Do you believe that there is only life on Earth or elsewhere in the Universe as well??? :waitasec:
I'm not sure. There could be, but I don't believe the "alien autopsy" reports from Area 51, now Ice on Mars- that's real!

angelwngs
08-01-2008, 11:22 PM
I'm not sure. There could be, but I don't believe the "alien autopsy" reports from Area 51, now Ice on Mars- that's real!

Gotcha! http://gfx2.hotmail.com/mail/w3/pr01/emoticons/smile_wink.gif (and thanks for your reply)

kline
08-02-2008, 02:58 AM
This one of those subjects where the water is so muddied by all the nutcases its hard to discern what is legtimate.
I think once you seperate all that there are still some very strange things that have happened that are hard to dismiss out of hand.

dolceaura
08-13-2008, 03:07 AM
Well.... for what it's worth... my husband and I were driving along a rural road on February 28, 2007 and suddenly up in the clouds an object appeared, it did not make a sound, never moved and only just hovered there.... it had several either lights or windows... and reminded me immediately of a ride I went on as a child at six flags called the "sky tower" (I think that was the name) anyhow it then just disappeared and I was like *Holy S**T*. I could'nt believe it! That is a quick summary of our story and I will never forget that night... my husband refuses to speak about it and even though I saw this I still have a hard time saying "aliens" are real....

Rudolf
08-13-2008, 10:29 AM
I wonder if they are worried about us getting out into the universe? I don't mean for our protection, I mean for theirs....

mysteriew
08-13-2008, 04:42 PM
I've never seen a UFO. Never had an abduction experience. The closest experience I have had was that I have seen crop circles. One theory for crop circles is that they are places where a UFO has set down.

Do I believe? Yes, I think I do. Our earth seems huge to us, it takes days to fly around it. But when we began going to the moon, the universe opened up to us. We have earth, then our earth/moon connection, then our galaxy. And we haven't even explored all of our galaxy. What exploratons have been done has shown planets that could once have sustained life, or may be close to sustaining life.

We are only one galaxy, and there are many more galaxies out there. So many we can't see them, we can't map them and we can't track them. If more than one planet in our galaxy could possibly sustain life, then why couldn't another in another galaxy have life? And why are the government scientists so determined to find proof of life on another planet in our galaxy?

If there is life on another planet, why haven't they reached out to us, maybe opened diplomatic relations? First, why would they? If they have found us, but we haven't found them, then they must be much more advanced. And we would be like a group of aboriginies in some forgotten corner of the world. Worthy of study, but maybe not wanting to intrude their world and technology on ours. Since they may have ways of studying us without immersing themselves in our society, then perhaps they have decided to do so. Like a wildlife reserve in Africa, where they don't allow people to visit unless they are scientists doing study. Esp. since all our governments have chosen to deny their existence, perhaps they are aware of that and chose to allow it.

To them we may be a more primitive people, and with our wars, environmental issues, technological advances, perhaps they just want to keep an eye on us. Or perhaps their world once was like ours, but like ours is becoming they became built up so much that there is no longer any "nature" or "green spaces". Perhaps that is why they wish to study us, because we are where their society used to be.

When I first learned about aliens, I noticed one thing. Of the descriptions of aliens, though there may be minor differences, they are all basically described the same. Even in the very early reports where most people who claimed to have "seen" things, probably hadn't seen someone else's reports.

UFO's in the sky, have been described by astronaughts, pilots, doctors, lawyers and LE. Yet our government denies they exist. Why? Because of fear I think. A society capable of reaching our planet from another galaxy would have to far advanced from us. And if they are that advanced, then their weapons would definately overpower ours. Then there is the great Orson Wells radio hoax. Has anyone read about that? When he had the show where he said aliens had landed, people were evacuating, people were afraid. So to keep panic away, I think the government decided to keep the secret. Besides, they aren't offering to reveal themselves and their technology to us. And when by some chance- like Roswell, they get the opportunity to study their technology then we become more advanced than other countries.

I believe it is possible there is alien life and that they have visited here. And I do believe the government has covered it up. How much of the story is true and how much is hoax, I don't know. But where there is smoke, there is fire.

mysteriew
08-13-2008, 05:03 PM
I want to know why this story is news now??? If this guy really believes it, why is this the first we've heard of his claims??? Doesn't give him much credibility in my book.:snooty:

It could be like a personal thing- he saw it and was never allowed to talk about it, and wants to talk about it before he dies.

Or it could be that perhaps the government is testing the waters. Is society ready to hear it? Could they be testing the water to see if it would cause panic? By having a retired astronaugt to talk about it, it allows them to deny any connection or truth to the story. If they announced the story themselves, they couldn't take it back.

One thing I do think. I don't believe aliens are a threat to us unless we threaten to harm them. If they wanted to harm us, they would have done it long ago.