The Real World: Employment Facts and Records

[Truly]

Please post any authentic documentation which can be found regarding actual records of employment with either Ohio or Florida Law Enforcement, confirmed employment of one Registered Nurse in Orlando, any statement from Universal Studios regarding the actual dates of employment of one Casey Anthony in the position of 'Event Coordinator',...etc. Basically any valid verification by a reliable source that definitively confirms where any of the people involved in what Casey calls this 'DRAAAMMMMA' are actually employed.

We all know about the statements which have been made for the film crews. Feel free to post those as well. What I am hoping for in this thread is actual authentic documentation of employment for any of the players in this saga. Homicide Detective in Trumball County, Ohio? That should be on file. Gentiva? Universal Studios? The local TV station? Anyone?

Thank you all so much. I have seen this issue raised numerous times in these threads, so I thought I would start a thread to hopefully find the answers.

Also, please feel free to post your opinions on this topic. This is definitely a full-discussion thread. :)

[ketel0ne]

http://www.wytv.com/news/crawl/25944914.html

Caylee's grandfather was a Trumbull county sheriff's deputy for many years. Sheriff Thomas Altiere remembers George Anthony as a good officer.
"GEORGE AND I WERE PARTNERS IN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT. WE WORKED TOGETHER WE WERE DETECTIVES TOGETHER. AND HE BECAME A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE. GREAT. SUPER GUY, LOVED HIS FAMILY, GOOD FAMILY GUY. IT'S GOT TO BE HARD ON HIM. ABSOLUTELY HARD. TERRIBLE."--Sheriff Thomas Altiere

[Truly]

Thank you absolut!
From your link:

Caylee's grandfather was a Trumbull county sheriff's deputy for many years.


Has anyone found the actual official dates he was employed? Not asking you to do the research, my friend. I hope we are able to find and link official verifiable documentation from LE. I have seen several people leave the threads to search, and come up empty. :waitasec:

[ketel0ne]

George Anthony, 56, and his wife Cindy, 50 lived in Howland before moving to Florida in 1989. The Anthonys also have a son, Lee, who also was born in Warren.
Anthony was a Trumbull detective from 1974 until 1985 and left the sheriff’s department at that time.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jul/26/case-of-missing-florida-girl-has-local-ties/

[Truly]

Yes, thank you again for the media story dated today, Sat, July 26, 2008.

If he is 56 years old today, and he joined the Trumball County Sheriff's department in 1974, at 22 years of age, that would mean he departed in 1985, at 33 yrs of age. I have been searching for any official document or older media article which corroborates his tenure as a police officer, without success thus far. Not that I am casting doubt upon him personally. I am simply trying to establish any factual employment history for anyone connected to this child. So far, I have seen nothing. Which I find puzzling.

If there is nothing from 1974-1985, is there any record of his employment for the last 23 years?

Thanks.:)

[ketel0ne]

Maybe he is on disability and he is just now getting a job to work through the thousands of dollars in debt Casey rang up. Financially things have to have gotten worse in the 41 days.

[Truly]

Hmmm...yes that could surely be a possibility. I have no desire to pry into this family's personal affairs. I am just hoping that if anyone here has found anything that authentically certifies where anyone connected to this story are actually employed, it could put some questions to rest.

Are there media interviews with current employers or co-workers? Have their employers initiated searches? Has Universal Studios issued a statement about their (former?) employee, 'Casey Anthony'? Are there any positive records of employment histories for anyone? LE and RN should be easy to publically document; they are State/County certified. Yet searches turn up nothing at all.

It is a mystery.:waitasec: I think the question of where everyone was actually working will solve this puzzle.

[fabvab]

Hmmm...yes that could surely be a possibility. I have no desire to pry into this family's personal affairs. I am just hoping that if anyone here has found anything that authentically certifies where anyone connected to this story are actually employed, it could put some questions to rest.

Are there media interviews with current employers or co-workers? Have their employers initiated searches? Has Universal Studios issued a statement about their (former?) employee, 'Casey Anthony'? Are there any positive records of employment histories for anyone? LE and RN should be easy to publically document; they are State/County certified. Yet searches turn up nothing at all.

It is a mystery.:waitasec: I think the question of where everyone was actually working will solve this puzzle.

I have wondered if Casey was receiving any state support for Cayley...ie...unwed/unemployed single mom. And...if Jesus was the father she should have received Social Security for Caylee from his death (unless it has to be on her birth certificate or something.)

[lisalei321]

I know in one of the early threads, Cindy's nursing license was posted...I'm not sure how the information was obtained though.

[fabvab]

I know in one of the early threads, Cindy's nursing license was posted...I'm not sure how the information was obtained though.
Medical licenses are easy to look up on the web. Just google a particular state and medical licenses...ie MD/DO/RN/PA/etc. You can also see if there are any complaints, etc. against doctors.

[fabvab]

I know in one of the early threads, Cindy's nursing license was posted...I'm not sure how the information was obtained though.

http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASLIST.ASP
Here is Florida's site. You can search for Cindy's license.

[headndownstream]

http://www.nursing.ohio.gov/Verification.htm

Last time Cindy renewed her RN license was 8/31/93, at that time it was good for two years or was good until 8/31/95 in Ohio, and she is on inactive status now. I didn't find that she ever sought a nursing license in the state of Florida.

[headndownstream]

Date correction 06/17/1993-08/31/95.

[headndownstream]

CYNTHIA MARIE PLESEA ANTHONY--- found an RN license for her in Florida, I guess that is this Cindy. It is from the link listed above for Florida.

Address of Record
1375 S SEMORAN BLVD
BUILDING 5 SUITE 1311
WINTER PARK,FL32792

[UCFAlumni2002]

http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/irm00praes/prasindi.asp?LicId=94605&ProfNBR=1701&Lookup=TRUE

License Verification Data As Of 7/27/2008



CYNTHIAhttp://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/DOT.gifMARIE PLESEAhttp://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/DOT.gifANTHONYLICENSE NUMBER: RN2087282


ProfessionREGISTERED NURSELicense/Activity StatusCLEAR/ACTIVE License Expiration DateLicense Original Issue Date4/30/200902/12/1990Discipline on FileContinuing Education AuditNONOAddress of Record1375 S SEMORAN BLVD
BUILDING 5 SUITE 1311
WINTER PARK,http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/DOT.gifFLhttp://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/DOT.gif32792


The information on this page is a secure, primary source for license verification provided by The Florida Department of Health, Division of Medical Quality Assurance.


Cindy's a registerd nurse in the state of Florida since February 12, 1990 with a Clear and Active RN license

[UCFAlumni2002]

http://www.nursing.ohio.gov/Verification.htm

Last time Cindy renewed her RN license was 8/31/93, at that time it was good for two years or was good until 8/31/95 in Ohio, and she is on inactive status now. I didn't find that she ever sought a nursing license in the state of Florida.


Inactive status just means that she decided not to keep her license active in the state of Ohio.

[fabvab]

http://www.nursing.ohio.gov/Verification.htm

Last time Cindy renewed her RN license was 8/31/93, at that time it was good for two years or was good until 8/31/95 in Ohio, and she is on inactive status now. I didn't find that she ever sought a nursing license in the state of Florida.

http://ww2.doh.state.fl.us/IRM00PRAES/PRASLIST.ASP

CYNTHIA MARIE PLESEA ANTHONY
4/30/2009 (Expiration) 02/12/1990 (Issue date)

[headndownstream]

So Cindy has a current nursing license to work as a nurse in Florida now. Is/was she working?

[fabvab]

So Cindy has a current nursing license to work as a nurse in Florida now. Is/was she working?
Yes...she is using her vacation time right now. She talks all about this on the stand during bond hearing.

[Truly]

Thank you very much. Yes, Cindy stated at the bond hearing that she works for Gentiva, same address as her license. Once again, apologies for enquiring about the family. Just trying to establish actual true facts in the maze of questions surrounding this case.

Has any confirmed employment for Casey been established? I suppose that is the only real question here.
-She did actually at one time work for Universal, correct? Does anyone have those dates?
-Is there any more info about the club promotion gig? This was supposedly for Fusian, correct?
-Can someone please post the link to the report that Casey worked for Kodak?


Sorry if these are repeat questions; just trying to get all of the employment facts together on one thread. Thanks!





http://www.gentiva.com/locations/Results.asp




Gentiva Health Services

1375 S Semoran Blvd Bldg 5

Winter Park, FL_32792-5529

Phone: (407)629-7992

[Truly]

Is there any documented employment at all for one Casey Anthony?

Someone posted Universal Studios. Then someone heard Epcot. Then Seaworld.

Fusion/Fusian? ...promotions?...stripper?...Where has she worked? Post it if you've got it. Anything would be a start.

Please post anything you can possibly recall about employment from the multitude of threads here, so we can have it all in one place without having to search. Thx.


Casey's roomie Amy posted that she would wait for three weeks to see if the 'mommy' drama hit the big time. She said "It better pay off".

Which TV station does Casey's best boy friend work for? Is it the station which keeps putting out all of these *shocking revelations*?

All of the characters are so beyond the point of believability that I have quit reading. I was so excited to see actual documentation that Cindy works for Gentiva. Finally! One Actual Fact! Of course, Gentiva's pharmaceudical franchise was recently sold to Merck. :rolleyes:

Truthfully, this whole thing honestly stinks of fraud, under cover of a cheapo $45,000 budget and backstage passes to some hip new reality show.

It is enough to gag a maggot. If you get the drift.

In My Own Personal Experience and Opinion.

[Aleve N Fla]

I know many people who work for Universal.. if Casey worked there they would have concrete evidence of her employment there. Since no one has said that they have found the proof, all of us can feel confident that she has never worked there (remember you need to keep paper records for 7 years so this would cover any of the timeline).

And Truly - the mightly so called "Rev" doesnt work, and hasnt in a number of years. He hides behind his so called "cloak" of the almighty and his paypal donations. And works at threatening websites that want to get to the truth with bogus lawsuits. His wife works two jobs - one as a teacher and one at Universal Studios. She is the one supporting her family. I feel for her.

And as far as Caseys parents go - I think we all can say that yes, her Mom is a nurse and yes very legit.

[Bobby62]

So I guess Casey has gone two years without a job. She does party a lot and that takes money. Maybe she has been out on Orange Blossom Trail. Maybe she was stealing stuff from family and neighbors and selling it on Ebay. She might have even been dancing at a dollar ballet. She was supporting her partying somehow.

[CarolineJ]

The brother, Lee Anthony, works for a company that sets up for sporting events (and possibly concerts, I forget). The name of the company is on his MySpace page and that's where I got the info. I googled that company he listed and found that they had the contract to set up for the Super Bowl events when it was held in Miami.

So, apparently, he is gainfully employed.

[Truly]

I am just bumping the employment thread to file an article which was posted today by whiteangora towards the end of thread 45:

http://.www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/508668.html?nav=5021 (http://.www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/508668.html?nav=5021)



Chuck Eddy, Caylee's great-uncle, said the past two months have been surreal, to say the least.
"You normally watch TV and see things going on about someone else," said Eddy, of Bob and Chuck Eddy Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep in Youngstown. "It doesn't seem real that that's your family."
According to Eddy, Casey and her parents, Cindy and George Anthony, originally are from Niles and moved to Orlando in 1989. Eddy's wife, Kathy, is George's sister. Casey's brother, Lee, also lives in Florida.
Eddy said George Anthony was a Trumbull County sheriff's deputy and retired from the department before moving to Orlando in 1989.
"He was a great sheriff's deputy and, I believe, a homicide detective," Eddy said.
Eddy said Cindy had worked as a nurse in Florida and George in security. Eddy said his wife has kept in touch with her family throughout the ordeal
"It's just disturbing at all levels," Eddy said.

[delaney]

I read the article in People Magazine and it states that George works for a private security firm now.

I have seen no other reference to his employment mentioned elsewhere.

[alphaville]

I know many people who work for Universal.. if Casey worked there they would have concrete evidence of her employment there. Since no one has said that they have found the proof, all of us can feel confident that she has never worked there (remember you need to keep paper records for 7 years so this would cover any of the timeline).

And Truly - the mightly so called "Rev" doesnt work, and hasnt in a number of years. He hides behind his so called "cloak" of the almighty and his paypal donations. And works at threatening websites that want to get to the truth with bogus lawsuits. His wife works two jobs - one as a teacher and one at Universal Studios. She is the one supporting her family. I feel for her.

And as far as Caseys parents go - I think we all can say that yes, her Mom is a nurse and yes very legit.



If she was a contract worker, she wouldn't be on Universal's books. IIRC she worked for Kodak AT Universal, correct? I could be remembering wrong.

ETA:"She just lucked into a photography job at Universal Studios, not at Universal Studios, but for Kodak, and she has a plaque. She was the employee of the year," Cindy Anthony said."

http://www.wesh.com/newsarchive/16947154/detail.html

[Melly53]

According to Cindy Anthony, Casey worked for Kodak located at Universal Studios until they were replaced by Colorvision. Kodak and/or Colorvision would have been the actual subcontractors of Universal Studios with their own people employed directly by them, not Universal. If she ever worked for Kodak or Colorvision then they would have a record of her employment.

[Aleve N Fla]

Very true - if she was a contracted person at Universal she wouldnt have any record with Universal Orlando at all. I would think that LE would be able to follow up with either Kodak or Colorvision - and hopefully they did already.

[websurfer]

Very true - if she was a contracted person at Universal she wouldnt have any record with Universal Orlando at all. I would think that LE would be able to follow up with either Kodak or Colorvision - and hopefully they did already.


Once they BLESS their little ol hearts

came into the mix i think no stone will be left unturned they are a powerful group and have ways of getting the truth..
she is a fried clam at this point

Not talking will not make it go away...

[lv2bgoing]

has anyone checked to see if Casey was recieveing Welfare or child SSI?

[capoly]

Is it possible that identity thief was involved re judgement against George Anthony? Casey could easily have obtained ccards in her parent(s) name and if she listed herself as a second card holder only her name would be on the card she was using. Some credit card bills can be paperless if the holder requests as such and utilizes on-line payments. I cannot find the post through search (so many on this forum and I am not sure of wording) but I thought the $12,000 judgement against George occurred sometime around 6/12. Perhaps this is the "drama" Casey posted about on myspace and the catalyst to the loss of Caylee.

This is speculation only.

[Truly]

Two interesting employment questions came up in the threads today, so I thought I would move them over to the employment thread for future reference. Or (hopefully) someone can help with the answers. :)

Aimee mentioned that Lee knew that Casey had a job, but that he has been asked by LE not to state where she worked. I had not read that before, and I think it may be significant, so if Aimee (or anyone else) has a link to Lee's comment, please post it here. Thanks!

Also, although it has been asked many times, MitchLite brought it up again this evening, and I have never seen the answer, so I thought I'd just drop it into the employment thread. Does anyone know the dates that Cindy and George were away on vacation in June?

I recall reading that Cindy stated to a reporter as she exited Casey's First Bond Hearing that the reason she mixed up the dates of the last time she had seen Caylee was because 'June 8th was the last day of her (Cindy's) vacation time from work'. It has never made sense to me why the June 8/9 dates persisted for so long. The June 9 date is still posted on the website of the http://neverlosehopefoundation.org website which put up some of the reward money. (Check out the website. Casey is the only child featured, and the links go nowhere. Very odd.)

If anyone happens to have any info about vacation dates, or the link to the reporter's question as Cindy left the bond hearing, please post it here for us all as well. Thank you!

[Truly]

Hi again. I just wanted to add that if anyone has any kind of question, fact, or discussion topic regarding employment, feel free to use this thread.

I cannot for the life of me figure out why the simple question: 'Did Casey Anthony have a job?' remains shrouded in mystery! If she had a job, she may have had a sitter. Not having answers to the most basic questions is one of the most baffling aspect of this case. Why on earth would Law Enforcement ask Lee to keep her employer secret? The only thing I can think of is if she was doing something illegal, or if she was some kind of informant? :waitasec:

[Muzikman]

Don't know the exact dates, but she stated in the Greta interview tonite that she was on vacation "the first week of June."

This interview (which looked like it was part of last nights maybe? and not broadcast until tonite?) was about the first time where it sounded like she was being pretty honest.

[Stoelly]

I cannot for the life of me figure out why the simple question: 'Did Casey Anthony have a job?' remains shrouded in mystery! If she had a job, she may have had a sitter. Not having answers to the most basic questions is one of the most baffling aspect of this case. Why on earth would Law Enforcement ask Lee to keep her employer secret? The only thing I can think of is if she was doing something illegal, or if she was some kind of informant? :waitasec:

I just read the article referenced above and that article was written on July 21st. Towards the end, Cindy states that Casey worked for a promotional company that did work for Fusian Ultra Lounge. I can't remember exactly, but when did the picutres of Casey come out partying at the club? I believe it was last week, but can't remember specifically the date. Is it DBC promotions company? Who is the promotion co?

[Stoelly]

After doing a search, this popped up from Craig's list. $15 - 20 an hour is pretty decent to be paid to do promotions for a club

http://orlando.craigslist.org/evg/

[Stoelly]

I just read the article referenced above and that article was written on July 21st. Towards the end, Cindy states that Casey worked for a promotional company that did work for Fusian Ultra Lounge. I can't remember exactly, but when did the picutres of Casey come out partying at the club? I believe it was last week, but can't remember specifically the date. Is it DBC promotions company? Who is the promotion co?

I found this on Craigs list. I am speculating that Casey worked for DBC entertainment, because of the pictures on the news and that's what was on the T-shirts.

http://orlando.craigslist.org/evg/758163132.html

[cjm11]

here is raw video of lee explaining casey's work. go to about the 17 minute mark.
http://www.wftv.com/video/17101975/

[Truly]

I found this on Craigs list. I am speculating that Casey worked for DBC entertainment, because of the pictures on the news and that's what was on the T-shirts.

http://orlando.craigslist.org/evg/758163132.html




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Thank you Stoelly, for posting that DBC/Fusian connection.

[Truly]

here is raw video of lee explaining casey's work. go to about the 17 minute mark.
http://www.wftv.com/video/17101975/

Thank you, cjm11.

If anyone can possibly view this and transcribe the relevant text, it would be much appreciated. I cannot get it to load at the moment.

It would also be important to have the actual quote from Lee typed out here for reference, in case the video is not stored on that link in the future. Does he in fact state that Casey had a job? Where did she work? Thank you! :)

[Bobby62]

here is raw video of lee explaining casey's work. go to about the 17 minute mark.
http://www.wftv.com/video/17101975/

Lee said that she had been working for a company that provodes services to Universal as an event coordinator. He said he has researched it back as far as the beginning of this year and she was working there. LE asked him not to divulge the company publicly. He also said she was on vacation time on June the 16th. This link is from 8-6-08.

[AZRiverRat]

Sorry if this belongs on another thread....

Casey worked for Universal 2 years ago. Does anyone know how long she worked there? Was she pregnant with Caylee when she worked there?

Is there any other (documented) employment history on her?

[future criminologist]

oh geez...good luck figuring out the truth on that one....:-)

[AZRiverRat]

I saw a copy of her paycheck at Universal in those 400+ pages of documents.

[ibyoungr]

Yes, thank you again for the media story dated today, Sat, July 26, 2008.

If he is 56 years old today, and he joined the Trumball County Sheriff's department in 1974, at 22 years of age, that would mean he departed in 1985, at 33 yrs of age. I have been searching for any official document or older media article which corroborates his tenure as a police officer, without success thus far. Not that I am casting doubt upon him personally. I am simply trying to establish any factual employment history for anyone connected to this child. So far, I have seen nothing. Which I find puzzling.

If there is nothing from 1974-1985, is there any record of his employment for the last 23 years?

Thanks.:)

If George is 56 now and Casey is 22 then he was 34 years old when she was born and Cindy was 28 years old. Would Cindy have been pregnant when he left the force?

[yolorado]

I have wondered if Casey was receiving any state support for Cayley...ie...unwed/unemployed single mom. And...if Jesus was the father she should have received Social Security for Caylee from his death (unless it has to be on her birth certificate or something.)

Wonder if she was filing a tax return, claiming some income and getting EIC (negative income tax) for Caylee or a credit for child and dependent care (for all those expensive Zanny babysitter bills.) Or wonder if the Anthony's were filing claiming one or both Casey or Caylee as dependents. If they were, they almost certainly know Casey didn't have a cushy job at Universal.

[GizzySmith]

For GA, why don't you write Sheriff Thomas L Altiere
http://www.usacops.com/oh/s44481/index.html
If its public information, I'm sure he will respond.

[AZRiverRat]

Page 400 of the documents released

Employee Wage information printout.

Employer: Event Imaging Solutions Inc
3201 E. Colonial Dr. Orlando, FL

Dates:

4th quarter of 2005 and 1st quarter of 2006

[future criminologist]

Lee said that she had been working for a company that provodes services to Universal as an event coordinator. He said he has researched it back as far as the beginning of this year and she was working there. LE asked him not to divulge the company publicly. He also said she was on vacation time on June the 16th. This link is from 8-6-08.


I don't understand...I thought she admitted that she was lying about working there in the first interview! and I thought LE already confirmed that she was fired in 2006? is Lee still maintaining her lie?

[AZRiverRat]

I don't understand...I thought she admitted that she was lying about working there in the first interview! and I thought LE already confirmed that she was fired in 2006? is Lee still maintaining her lie?


He's probably just sticking to the script!

[Pollywog]

If GA works as a security guard in FL he has to have a license and it is on file with the state. Security officers/guards have to take a class & be licensed in Florida. Some are licensed to carry a weapon, others are not.

[Laece]

Casey's roomie Amy posted that she would wait for three weeks to see if the 'mommy' drama hit the big time. She said "It better pay off".


wait...what's this again? i must have missed this along the way...

TIA

[MD MOMMY]

According to Cindy Anthony, Casey worked for Kodak located at Universal Studios until they were replaced by Colorvision. Kodak and/or Colorvision would have been the actual subcontractors of Universal Studios with their own people employed directly by them, not Universal. If she ever worked for Kodak or Colorvision then they would have a record of her employment.

Colorvision is a division of Kodak..

[What'sThatClue]

If GA works as a security guard in FL he has to have a license and it is on file with the state. Security officers/guards have to take a class & be licensed in Florida. Some are licensed to carry a weapon, others are not.

George has a license on file:

http://licgweb.doacs.state.fl.us/cgi-bin/LicWebSrchInd.exe?TYPE=INDIVIDUAL&CATEGORY=&COUNTY=00&LICENSE=D%202121968&STATUS=IND_DETAIL

ANTHONY, GEORGE A.

License Number Expires Status
D 2121968 10/19/2009 LICENSE ISSUED

[Bobby62]

If she was a contract worker, she wouldn't be on Universal's books. IIRC she worked for Kodak AT Universal, correct? I could be remembering wrong.

ETA:"She just lucked into a photography job at Universal Studios, not at Universal Studios, but for Kodak, and she has a plaque. She was the employee of the year," Cindy Anthony said."

http://www.wesh.com/newsarchive/16947154/detail.html

Most of th etourist places have outside companies come in as vendors. They have the vendors employees go through a training class about the facility and their expectations. They are issued a company ID that is a touch different with a vendor label on it. I am sure that is what The mother of the year had.

[magic-cat]

If she was a contract worker, she wouldn't be on Universal's books. IIRC she worked for Kodak AT Universal, correct? I could be remembering wrong.

ETA:"She just lucked into a photography job at Universal Studios, not at Universal Studios, but for Kodak, and she has a plaque. She was the employee of the year," Cindy Anthony said."

http://www.wesh.com/newsarchive/16947154/detail.html

Oh dear God she probably gave her own self that plaque just to make it look like she was some big deal...

[treeseeker]

Investigator Leonard Tutora was able to confirm for Det. Yuri Melich that Casey A was employed at Universal Studios until terminated on 4/24/2006. (Later stated it was confirmed she worked for Kodak)

Link:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1

[Pollywog]

If she were an employee of the year, wouldn't there be some news of that some place, like a newsletter etc?

[cjm11]

An interesting tidbit I hadn't heard before - GA once dabbled in politics. In the 1980s, he ran unsuccessfully in the Democratic primary for Trumbull Clerk of Courts.

http://www.vindy.com/news/2008/jul/27/family-of-missing-child-has-valley-ties/

[Pink Panther]

Page 400 of the documents released

Employee Wage information printout.

Employer: Event Imaging Solutions Inc
3201 E. Colonial Dr. Orlando, FL

Dates:

4th quarter of 2005 and 1st quarter of 2006

This sounds about right...At least in keeping with Cindy's testimony at the Bond Hearing. She talks about Casey's first job at the hearing and explains that she (Cindy) went to her first job interview with her. I remember this because I thought that it was really strange for her to have gone on the interview with her.

Also - I have read on other forums (and Rick has also mentioned it?) that GA has been on disability for injury twice. (No sources for this info.)

ETA - Cindy also mentions that KC had been gainfully employed prior to delivering Caylee and that she knew this to be the case because KC's medical bills had been covered by her employer.

[Pink Panther]

Sorry to add this as a second post but I'm remembering stuff after I write...Rick also mentioned that GA went to work at his father's car dealership after he left the police force and that he later started up his own dealership that was later closed. I know that there are a lot of doubts about Rick but I have been able to find bits and pieces of information that verify what he stated in the Trumbell County records.

(I believe Rick and I wish he would come back onto the forums!)

[Spyglass]

In an interview (part of the 400+ pages), one of KC's female "friends" mentioned working at Universal and just being laid off. This could have been Kiomarie. She mentioned seeing KC when she worked there a few years ago and that KC recently mentioned she still worked there and the "friend" was surprised since she hadn't seen her. Does anyone remember who this friend was? Kiomarie?

[Pink Panther]

In an interview (part of the 400+ pages), one of KC's female "friends" mentioned working at Universal and just being laid off. This could have been Kiomarie. She mentioned seeing KC when she worked there a few years ago and that KC recently mentioned she still worked there and the "friend" was surprised since she hadn't seen her. Does anyone remember who this friend was? Kiomarie?

Yes. It was Kiomarie. :)

[MD MOMMY]

In an interview (part of the 400+ pages), one of KC's female "friends" mentioned working at Universal and just being laid off. This could have been Kiomarie. She mentioned seeing KC when she worked there a few years ago and that KC recently mentioned she still worked there and the "friend" was surprised since she hadn't seen her. Does anyone remember who this friend was? Kiomarie?

Right but I believe Kio said that she was terminated not laid off.

[Bobby62]

Investigator Leonard Tutora was able to confirm for Det. Yuri Melich that Casey A was employed at Universal Studios until terminated on 4/24/2006. (Later stated it was confirmed she worked for Kodak)

Link:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1080375/0825-Casey-Anthony-Documents-released-part-1

In one interview Lee said he was able to confirm employment for Casey back to the first of the year. In the new document dump, she did use some "Industry lingo" to make me know for sure that she either worked in some kind of production capacity as an event coordinator, production assistant etc. or else she knew someone who was in this field. Most convention hotels in the area hire a lot of event coordinators. I am guessing that a diploma is necessary though. There is a lot of on the job training too.

Just thinking out loud

[LiveLoveLaughLiza]

If she was a contract worker, she wouldn't be on Universal's books. IIRC she worked for Kodak AT Universal, correct? I could be remembering wrong.

ETA:"She just lucked into a photography job at Universal Studios, not at Universal Studios, but for Kodak, and she has a plaque. She was the employee of the year," Cindy Anthony said."

http://www.wesh.com/newsarchive/16947154/detail.html

OMG, I just choked on my coffee. I needed that laugh. :crazy:

[windrower]

Thank you Stoelly, for posting that DBC/Fusian connection.

Maybe KC was "working" as a "dancer," though any story about a supposed connection between her and a club could be construed as the family laying the groundwork to explain away those "dancing" photos. (Seems I have to use air quotes for anything concerned with the Anthony camp, especially KC.)

Can't wait for LE to make their case when the time is right--anyone associated with KC should be realizing they've been scammed by her, and if they are not truthful now, could face charges of their own when this case is put together.

[Macushla]

I tried a search to see if there was a thread on this and couldn't find one. After reading the thread this morning about JG's interview on the Today Show, I was wondering if there is any type of timeline or even list of what jobs Casey has had after Caylee was born. I know she was working at the Kodak Booth at Universal while she was pregnant and I think I remember reading that she just never came back to the job after Caylee was born. So aside from the 'work' she did at Fusion, is there any documented proof that she had a job for any length of time after Caylee was born?

If this has already been discussed, my apologies and the Mods can just make this thread go 'poof' :)

[Pink Panther]

I tried a search to see if there was a thread on this and couldn't find one. After reading the thread this morning about JG's interview on the Today Show, I was wondering if there is any type of timeline or even list of what jobs Casey has had after Caylee was born. I know she was working at the Kodak Booth at Universal while she was pregnant and I think I remember reading that she just never came back to the job after Caylee was born. So aside from the 'work' she did at Fusion, is there any documented proof that she had a job for any length of time after Caylee was born?

If this has already been discussed, my apologies and the Mods can just make this thread go 'poof' :)

I don't believe so. I don't think that she has held a single job since the day Caylee was born.

(Close family huh? Three years and her parents never figured it out. hmmm.)

MOO

[Dr. Pennypacker]

There is only one job Casey is familiar with. A ^%$#job.

[SeriouslySearching]

There were no other legitimate jobs. This will be a very short thread. LOL

[Jodibug]

Yeah, I cannot figure out how George and Cindy apparently never saw a paycheck stub, or a bank deposit, but they thought she had a job? For nearly three years??? Insane!

Did she talk about being "broke until payday?" Like every employed person that I know?

There is just no way that any sane person could have believed her lies for very long.... no more than a month.... by then I would be expecting to see some proof of income!

Not to mention.... what about filing of tax returns? Can you live in a house with other people and not know if/when they are filing a return and if they are owing tax or getting a refund?

You just can't fake these things for three years straight!

[tiredofthis]

I don't believe so. I don't think that she has held a single job since the day Caylee was born.

(Close family huh? Three years and her parents never figured it out. hmmm.)

MOO

I think George had it figured out.

I agree. I don't remember reading about any jobs she had since Caylee's birth.

[Brini]

I tried a search to see if there was a thread on this and couldn't find one. After reading the thread this morning about JG's interview on the Today Show, I was wondering if there is any type of timeline or even list of what jobs Casey has had after Caylee was born. I know she was working at the Kodak Booth at Universal while she was pregnant and I think I remember reading that she just never came back to the job after Caylee was born. So aside from the 'work' she did at Fusion, is there any documented proof that she had a job for any length of time after Caylee was born?

If this has already been discussed, my apologies and the Mods can just make this thread go 'poof' :)

LE said that KC's last earnings were during the first quarter of '06 (CA interview, part II)

[SeriouslySearching]

LOL I guess you can fake all this if your family wears rose colored glasses and you are an accomplished liar.

[Pink Panther]

There were no other legitimate jobs. This will be a very short thread. LOL
Yep. I'm still curious as to whether or not CA was giving her an allowance to cover the babysitter/nanny costs. I haven't been able to find out anything about this. Perhaps, based on how they assumed Lauren G would work for free, that they also assumed the nanny would be willing to work for free?

[Macushla]

Yeah, I cannot figure out how George and Cindy apparently never saw a paycheck stub, or a bank deposit, but they thought she had a job? For nearly three years??? Insane!

Did she talk about being "broke until payday?" Like every employed person that I know?

There is just no way that any sane person could have believed her lies for very long.... no more than a month.... by then I would be expecting to see some proof of income!

Not to mention.... what about filing of tax returns? Can you live in a house with other people and not know if/when they are filing a return and if they are owing tax or getting a refund?

You just can't fake these things for three years straight!

I agree! That is why I was wondering if she had ANY job even for a week or so. I am having a hard time understanding how, no matter how good a liar Casey is, she could have gotten away with lying about having a job for 3 years, especially to her parents when she lived there!

[PoppyH]

She had no jobs that I know of, I believe Cindy and George has supported Casey and Caylee finacially JMO


Poppy

[SeriouslySearching]

Yep. I'm still curious as to whether or not CA was giving her an allowance to cover the babysitter/nanny costs. I haven't been able to find out anything about this. Perhaps, based on how they assumed Lauren G would work for free, that they also assumed the nanny would be willing to work for free?Good question. It has always been in the back of my mind that no one was paying for this fake nanny and seems like someone would have brought this up in an interview with the fam...but not that I have seen so far.

[MiraclesHappen]

Yep. I'm still curious as to whether or not CA was giving her an allowance to cover the babysitter/nanny costs. I haven't been able to find out anything about this. Perhaps, based on how they assumed Lauren G would work for free, that they also assumed the nanny would be willing to work for free?

I thought it was to Casey's advantage if the fictional nanny was a financial burden in the Casey Lielight Zone.

That explains why she is always needing money. Her earnings are used to pay for childcare. Mommy and Daddy have to pay for everything else.
Geez if they, the Anthony's, were pitching in for the "daycare" too, it's a wonder they didn't ask her to quit the job to save everyone some money.:crazy:

[Evan's Mom]

I don't know of a single job she had after Kodak at Universal.
You would think she'd at least want to work a little just to get the earned income credit when filing her taxes. For someone that doesn't make a lot of money, that's a huge chunk o'change.

[MiraclesHappen]

I agree! That is why I was wondering if she had ANY job even for a week or so. I am having a hard time understanding how, no matter how good a liar Casey is, she could have gotten away with lying about having a job for 3 years, especially to her parents when she lived there!


She did have a job. :rolleyes: Pathological liars like her put in enormous time & effort to get people to believe their lies. Living the lie supercedes having ties to a reality -based world. It's really quite time consuming. Does not pay well though.

[Dutchie Treat]

She had no jobs that I know of, I believe Cindy and George has supported Casey and Caylee finacially JMO


Poppy

Indeed...and I think all of KC's friends "supported" her without even knowing it!! (Amy, Jesse, Grandma, etc.). I wonder how many people that were associated with KC actually missed smaller amounts of money every now and then and just thought they misplaced it, recalled it wrong etc. and pooh poohed it away without ever suspecting KC. And what about tiny loans like we all make now and then to friends. She was probably very good at getting things like drinks, cover charges, gas money or rides, food (being taken out for dinner or lunch etc.) just by using her manipulating ways.

AAAARGH it just really makes me mad to think about lying about jobs like she did. Did she NEVER have a boyfriend want to pick her up from work and go somewhere from the job? We've all had that happen, haven't we? Or have a romantic boyfriend want to just "drop by" and bring her a rose or something? Or lunch?

I can't even imagine lying about it for 3 whole years.

[Dutchie Treat]

I thought it was to Casey's advantage if the fictional nanny was a financial burden in the Casey Lielight Zone.




LMAO this was really funny...:clap:

[MD MOMMY]

She did actually have a job..she was a profesional con artist and liar. Lying was the only thing she had to do and she couldn't even get that right. It's no wonder she couldn't hold a real job JMO of course!

[Nora Charles]

Not to mention.... what about filing of tax returns? Can you live in a house with other people and not know if/when they are filing a return and if they are owing tax or getting a refund?

You just can't fake these things for three years straight!

I can't figure out how Casey got around tax time, especially for 2007. There was a new law enacted which affected families with dependents who worked. Our 17 year old works, and since her taxes were so simple I planned to teach her how to complete the forms herself. However, our accountant explained the new law could be tricky and if we didn't file correctly we would lose a great deal of money. We needed to show him our daughter's tax info so he could make sure everyone filed in a way that benefited us the most. (And no, it wasn't just a scam - he only charged a nominal $25 to add on our daughter's taxes.)

I can't imagine Casey's parents paid for everything and then took a huge loss on their taxes as well! (I think they "knew" Casey had a job, like they "know" Casey had nothing to do with Caylee's disappearance. :waitasec: Yeah, right.)

[PoppyH]

Wonder if C and G claimed Caylee on thier taxes??

Poppy

[Sundance]

Yep. I'm still curious as to whether or not CA was giving her an allowance to cover the babysitter/nanny costs. I haven't been able to find out anything about this. Perhaps, based on how they assumed Lauren G would work for free, that they also assumed the nanny would be willing to work for free?

Who paid her phone bills?

I found this in the discovery documents - in her Internet archive - where the phone bill had been paid online:

Date Paid || Amount
04/03/2007|| $417.47
05/25/2007|| $372.82
07/24/2007|| $414.11
09/24/2007|| $497.75
12/04/2007|| $814.00
01/24/2008|| $180.21
02/27/2008|| $160.57
03/26/2008|| $191.17
04/08/2008|| $354.04
05/06/2008|| $574.60
06/25/2008|| $377.33
07/15/2008|| $574.60

Total Due || $167.50

This is a hell of a phone bill for someone with a job, much less without one.

Sundance

[Jodibug]

Yep. I'm still curious as to whether or not CA was giving her an allowance to cover the babysitter/nanny costs. I haven't been able to find out anything about this. Perhaps, based on how they assumed Lauren G would work for free, that they also assumed the nanny would be willing to work for free?


I am sure that was Casey's excuse for not having any money... that she had to pay the sitter.

[Jodibug]

Wonder if C and G claimed Caylee on thier taxes??

Poppy

they must have been claiming Caylee, and if not then they need to amend and claim her now since Casey didn't even have a job!



How did Casey get around the $600 economic stimulus payment she would have rec'd if she had been working, filed taxes and claimed Caylee (or $300 if G&C were claiming Caylee).

Every person I know was planning for that money for weeks ahead of time and anxiously awaiting their deposits.

Most parents, if supporting their grandkids, would expect to be told where that money was being spent!

[Ginny]

I am sure that was Casey's excuse for not having any money... that she had to pay the sitter.

That kind of actually makes sense. I said kind of!

If she had an imaginary sitter who sucked up all her money, then she had a reason for being broke; therefore, this imaginary sitter now takes on a life of its own. She has to explain who the sitter is and how Casey met her, the sitter needs a name, etc. If she's been telling the same lie for years, it was probably easy to repeat it to LE with consistency.

[PoppyH]

they must have been claiming Caylee, and if not then they need to amend and claim her now since Casey didn't even have a job!



ITA and IF they WERE claiming Caylee, surely they knew Casey did not have a job otherwise Casey would have been claiming her

Poppy

[TURBOTHINK]

I am sure that was Casey's excuse for not having any money... that she had to pay the sitter.

I am thinking that was always the excuse. A good nanny costs at least $300 a week and even day care is a couple of hundred, so she most likely told them after paying out for Caylee, there was nothing much left. They paid for all Caylee's medical, bought all her clothes, provided food and shelter, so there really was nothing else to pay by Casey. All she had to do is con drinks, and that is very easy for a woman.

[Macushla]

I noticed a number of posters figured G & C were claiming Caylee on their taxes - which brings up another area - health insurance. I am sure Casey was taking Caylee to the doctor for check ups, etc. And didn't Casey go to the hospital for a seizure one night? How did she pay for all this stuff if she didn't work and didn't have health insurance - unless Casey and Caylee were BOTH on either G or C's insurance. I didn't think you could have an adult child on your health insurance unless there were specific reasons, liked disabled or something. It is possible that Caylee was on their health insurance though, I bet Casey told them it was too expensive to have Caylee on HER policy.

As to those enormous phone bills!!!! - yeah, I wonder who paid for those. Unless Casey kept switching carrier to avoid past due bills - but wouldn't a new carrier check for something like that?

I guess this is another part of this case that makes your scratch your head and say "WTH" is wrong with these people that they did not know Casey hadn't worked in almost 3 years.

[missmybaby]

I kinda figured at first that CA was paying for Caylees nanny. I was really surprised when her very first babysitter said she watched Caylee for free. Which explains why she quit when she suspected KC wasn't working. I'm assuming Jesse wasn't paid either.

If KC got CA to finance her fictional nanny, that would have given KC a nice little chunk of change every week. But it would also explain to her family and friends why she was always broke, if she was paying the sitter herself.

I had an employee who fabricated stories all the time, she also stole from the till. Very small amts that where a pain for me to constantly balance out. Later she became more creative, stealing cash and changing the customer receipts so the till never took the hit.
The amount of time and energy that she put into these rip offs was amazing. Her down fall came in the stories she told me about how 'other people' stole and very bad timing for her, when customers came back and needed changes to their orders.

She was arrested, spent the night in jail and went to court all while living at home and her parents never knew.

[missmybaby]

they must have been claiming Caylee, and if not then they need to amend and claim her now since Casey didn't even have a job!



ITA and IF they WERE claiming Caylee, surely they knew Casey did not have a job otherwise Casey would have been claiming her

Poppy

I don't think they can claim her, she's not their kid. Her mother (an adult) was there but not a student, so they couldn't claim KC either.

[CarolineJ]

I believe I read in the last batch of released interviews that her supervisor (Mike Kozak) at Kodak said Casey did not show up for the meeting with Human Resources when Kodak lost the contract to Color Vision. She was then fired for abandoning her job. She was fired by Kodak, not Color Vision. She never worked for Color Vision. He was pretty specific about that.

So, I think that she did return to work after Caylee was born. I cannot remember when the Kodak/ColorVision thing occurred but I believe it to be in 2006.

[CarolineJ]

I don't think they can claim her, she's not their kid. Her mother (an adult) was there but not a student, so they couldn't claim KC either.


I think you can claim grandchildren if you are supporting them and also if they are not being claimed by another taxpayer.

[Ladytazz]

Yeah, I cannot figure out how George and Cindy apparently never saw a paycheck stub, or a bank deposit, but they thought she had a job? For nearly three years??? Insane!

Did she talk about being "broke until payday?" Like every employed person that I know?

There is just no way that any sane person could have believed her lies for very long.... no more than a month.... by then I would be expecting to see some proof of income!

Not to mention.... what about filing of tax returns? Can you live in a house with other people and not know if/when they are filing a return and if they are owing tax or getting a refund?

You just can't fake these things for three years straight!

I believe LE checked and could not find any earnings after the first quarter of 2006. I wonder if she told her parents that most of her money went to child care and that is why she was always broke. That would explain the need for a "nanny" as opposed to a baby sitter and hence "Zani" the nanny was born.

[txanmom]

:clap:I thought it was to Casey's advantage if the fictional nanny was a financial burden in the Casey Lielight Zone.

That explains why she is always needing money. Her earnings are used to pay for childcare. Mommy and Daddy have to pay for everything else.
Geez if they, the Anthony's, were pitching in for the "daycare" too, it's a wonder they didn't ask her to quit the job to save everyone some money.:crazy:

:clap:lmao!!

[Betty Boop]

Casey had a job. She babysat Caylee when grandma Cindy was unavailable. Paid well. Lots of perks. Company car, credit card(s), vacation and sick days.

The night of The Big Fight, Cindy said "you're fired". Casey said "I quit".

End of job.

[GirlinCentralFL]

I believe I read in the last batch of released interviews that her supervisor (Mike Kozak) at Kodak said Casey did not show up for the meeting with Human Resources when Kodak lost the contract to Color Vision. She was then fired for abandoning her job. She was fired by Kodak, not Color Vision. She never worked for Color Vision. He was pretty specific about that.

So, I think that she did return to work after Caylee was born. I cannot remember when the Kodak/ColorVision thing occurred but I believe it to be in 2006.


She was fired April 2006 so she was working after Caylee was born.

[Dutchie Treat]

Casey had a job. She babysat Caylee when grandma Cindy was unavailable. Paid well. Lots of perks. Company car, credit card(s), vacation and sick days.

The night of The Big Fight, Cindy said "you're fired". Casey said "I quit".

End of job.

This is the closest we will come to the job history reality of KC. Well-said!!

[magic-cat]

I have asked this question on several threads and it somehow keeps getting misplaced in the shuffle, but I have wondered since reading the interview from Casey's boss at Kodak why does everyone keep saying that Casey was employed through April 2006? In the interview, and I have lost all my docs in a most horrible computer crash, so I got his name from this link:http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/whos-who/
"Mike C.: Employee, Event Imaging Solutions Group (Kodak) who confirmed that Casey had worked for him in 2005, but that he could not remember Jeff Hopkins or Juliette Lewis. Note: Kodak was taken over by Colorvision in 2006."
Mr. Cozak tells us some very important information about Casey. He tells us that she NEVER returned to work after Caylee was born (August 05) and that when Colorvision took over she never showed up for the roll-over class and to fill out the appropriate paperwork, and eventually was terminated for job abandonment...

So, to me this says that Casey was no longer working at all for kodak once Caylee was born according to her manager/boss...and yet, for 8 months she continued to have Lauren come to the house and watch Caylee while she went Lord knows where, but it wasn't work. Then Lauren found out that is what Casey was doing, not paying HER while she was out running around and not working at all, and THAT gig was up...she stopped watching Caylee then...

My question is why does everyone keep to the April 2006 date when it is not correct? It is almost like the June 9th date in that once it was stated, it seems to be set in stone, when the date is WRONG...

Anyone???:confused:

[Kimster]

I'm not sure who says she worked through April 2006? One thing for sure, I think its unbelievable that her parents didn't even know she didn't have a job that whole length of time yet lived under the same roof!

:eek:

[magic-cat]

It is all over the place that she was employed through April of 2006. I see it everywhere, and cannot get WHY???

Perhaps that is when she was officially "let go" for job abandonment, but she never went back after she left to have Caylee and that was August 05...so it was closer to 3 years than to 2 that she was playing this little game of hers. I am not even sure she was officially employed as a "shot girl" or if she just did that for her boyfriend or what...I am going to have to review this thread and see what everyone has to say about it...

:confused:

[TURBOTHINK]

She was fired April 2006 so she was working after Caylee was born.

According to the personnel manager she never came back after Caylee was born in 05. New company took over and she never even came in to take the training and sign her employment forms.

[Meemom]

they must have been claiming Caylee, and if not then they need to amend and claim her now since Casey didn't even have a job!



How did Casey get around the $600 economic stimulus payment she would have rec'd if she had been working, filed taxes and claimed Caylee (or $300 if G&C were claiming Caylee).

Every person I know was planning for that money for weeks ahead of time and anxiously awaiting their deposits.

Most parents, if supporting their grandkids, would expect to be told where that money was being spent!

The day that GA supposedly confronted KC and had the gas cans handed over and got sworn at was the same day that he & CA went to the bank with their stimulus check, IIRC. So why didn't they wonder what happened to KC's? I wonder how much theirs was for? If they had claimed Caylee, they would gotten an extra $300, right? Who usually got the mail at their house from the mailbox? If CA made a point of checking the mail that came to the house- she would have known if KC got a check, w-2's, refunds, or at least bank statements. Or did KC make sure she was there to get the mail and weed out anything that could have shown her lies? If KC was the one who checked the mail, she would have been ok with AH doing the change of address that CA found out about, thinking CA & GA wouldn't find out about it until she got enough info on AH to steal her idenity (I still think she intended to take off for Calif., with AH's identity, but the 911 call put an to that that possibility for her)

[cocoamom]

Does anyone know why GA "left" his job as a detective up North after 11 years? Does that mean he resigned or was fired? hmmmm

:waitasec:

[cocoamom]

:confused:Anyone know if this Mike guy/boss from Universal is on the witness list???

[2goldfish]

I have asked this question on several threads and it somehow keeps getting misplaced in the shuffle, but I have wondered since reading the interview from Casey's boss at Kodak why does everyone keep saying that Casey was employed through April 2006? In the interview, and I have lost all my docs in a most horrible computer crash, so I got his name from this link:http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/whos-who/
"Mike C.: Employee, Event Imaging Solutions Group (Kodak) who confirmed that Casey had worked for him in 2005, but that he could not remember Jeff Hopkins or Juliette Lewis. Note: Kodak was taken over by Colorvision in 2006."
Mr. Cozak tells us some very important information about Casey. He tells us that she NEVER returned to work after Caylee was born (August 05) and that when Colorvision took over she never showed up for the roll-over class and to fill out the appropriate paperwork, and eventually was terminated for job abandonment...

So, to me this says that Casey was no longer working at all for kodak once Caylee was born according to her manager/boss...and yet, for 8 months she continued to have Lauren come to the house and watch Caylee while she went Lord knows where, but it wasn't work. Then Lauren found out that is what Casey was doing, not paying HER while she was out running around and not working at all, and THAT gig was up...she stopped watching Caylee then...

My question is why does everyone keep to the April 2006 date when it is not correct? It is almost like the June 9th date in that once it was stated, it seems to be set in stone, when the date is WRONG...

Anyone???:confused:

this frustrates me too, along with a few other things people think are fact and keep running threads as if they were fact. I gave up trying to point out flaws :( I guess at the end of the day it doesnt matter what we think,the State wont be giving out misinfo at the trial and that is all that matters.

[2goldfish]

So why didn't they wonder what happened to KC's? I wonder how much theirs was for? If they had claimed Caylee, they would gotten an extra $300, right? Who usually got the mail at their house from the mailbox? If CA made a point of checking the mail that came to the house- she would have known if KC got a check, w-2's, refunds, or at least bank statements.

snipped....


some good points I had not thought of. They couldn't claim caylee. her mother could. so in the last few years she was pretending to work how did they never see a w2, a tax refund check, anything?

case of seeing what you want to see. The signs were certainly all there. No one wanted to believe she could be lying so they overlooked a lot.

[LeLe1953]

Does anyone know why GA "left" his job as a detective up North after 11 years? Does that mean he resigned or was fired? hmmmm

:waitasec:

In one of these latest FBI tapes I believe George say's he left LE b/c Cindy wanted him home & he had a new son. He said that's when he went to work for his father at the car dealership.

[LeLe1953]

The day that GA supposedly confronted KC and had the gas cans handed over and got sworn at was the same day that he & CA went to the bank with their stimulus check, IIRC. So why didn't they wonder what happened to KC's? I wonder how much theirs was for? If they had claimed Caylee, they would gotten an extra $300, right? Who usually got the mail at their house from the mailbox? If CA made a point of checking the mail that came to the house- she would have known if KC got a check, w-2's, refunds, or at least bank statements. Or did KC make sure she was there to get the mail and weed out anything that could have shown her lies? If KC was the one who checked the mail, she would have been ok with AH doing the change of address that CA found out about, thinking CA & GA wouldn't find out about it until she got enough info on AH to steal her idenity (I still think she intended to take off for Calif., with AH's identity, but the 911 call put an to that that possibility for her)

I think in the LE interviews & the FBI interviews, GA mentions it was for 1200.00.

[Pink Panther]

Does anyone know why GA "left" his job as a detective up North after 11 years? Does that mean he resigned or was fired? hmmmm

:waitasec:
Nope, but it would be very interesting to find out...I'm surprised no one in the media has found out.

[JustMy2Cents]

Casey had a job. She babysat Caylee when grandma Cindy was unavailable. Paid well. Lots of perks. Company car, credit card(s), vacation and sick days.

The night of The Big Fight, Cindy said "you're fired". Casey said "I quit".

End of job.

HA! Yep, that sounds about right.

[Pink Panther]

I have asked this question on several threads and it somehow keeps getting misplaced in the shuffle, but I have wondered since reading the interview from Casey's boss at Kodak why does everyone keep saying that Casey was employed through April 2006? In the interview, and I have lost all my docs in a most horrible computer crash, so I got his name from this link:http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/whos-who/
"Mike C.: Employee, Event Imaging Solutions Group (Kodak) who confirmed that Casey had worked for him in 2005, but that he could not remember Jeff Hopkins or Juliette Lewis. Note: Kodak was taken over by Colorvision in 2006."
Mr. Cozak tells us some very important information about Casey. He tells us that she NEVER returned to work after Caylee was born (August 05) and that when Colorvision took over she never showed up for the roll-over class and to fill out the appropriate paperwork, and eventually was terminated for job abandonment...

So, to me this says that Casey was no longer working at all for kodak once Caylee was born according to her manager/boss...and yet, for 8 months she continued to have Lauren come to the house and watch Caylee while she went Lord knows where, but it wasn't work. Then Lauren found out that is what Casey was doing, not paying HER while she was out running around and not working at all, and THAT gig was up...she stopped watching Caylee then...

My question is why does everyone keep to the April 2006 date when it is not correct? It is almost like the June 9th date in that once it was stated, it seems to be set in stone, when the date is WRONG...

Anyone???:confused:
I'm not sure how employment laws work in the US but maybe, when you are on maternity leave, you are still technically employed - just on "leave". CA does mention (at the Bond hearing) that KC was employed when she had Caylee because her employer paid her medical bills for the birth. Technically, until they filed for "job abandonment" maybe she was still "employed". Not earning money but listed as an employee on maternity leave.

MOO

[manatee]

I think in the LE interviews & the FBI interviews, GA mentions it was for 1200.00.

yes, I heard that to from GA while talking to FBI...$1200. He said he met Cindy at the bank to go sign the check to deposit and show proof of ID. he said this was on the same day that he reported the gas cans stolen on June 24th @200P.

[Coley]

According to the personnel manager she never came back after Caylee was born in 05. New company took over and she never even came in to take the training and sign her employment forms.

You know this right here has me wondering something. Ok, I know personally I worked for a place called Powertel back in the day that was "took over" by Voicestream Wireless (now T-Mobile) well just for us going through the transition (even if we didn't stay) we got paid $3,000. I wonder if this is the case here? That sure would explain some of the money she had.

Sorry, Just a thought.

[Coley]

I think in the LE interviews & the FBI interviews, GA mentions it was for 1200.00.

If I think correctly, the amount for KC's would have been $600. Remember, the checks were dependent on what you filed on your tax return. $600 would be no income and 1 child. GA& CA=$1200.

ETA: Ahhh haaa, GA & CA was this amount b/c I bet they filed for Caylee.

[AZlawyer]

I'm not sure how employment laws work in the US but maybe, when you are on maternity leave, you are still technically employed - just on "leave". CA does mention (at the Bond hearing) that KC was employed when she had Caylee because her employer paid her medical bills for the birth. Technically, until they filed for "job abandonment" maybe she was still "employed". Not earning money but listed as an employee on maternity leave.

MOO

I think that's exactly what the confusion is. She may have been EMPLOYED through April 2006, but where everyone gets mixed up is they think that means she was WORKING. lol

I have a client business who just now terminated the "employment" of an employee who hasn't actually shown up for work for 2 1/2 years! :rolleyes:

[Pegster57]

In one of these latest FBI tapes I believe George say's he left LE b/c Cindy wanted him home & he had a new son. He said that's when he went to work for his father at the car dealership.

Thats what I heard as well. Not sure if Sheriff depts work the same in FL as they do in Va, but here, the Sheriff position is a political one. The sheriff is elected by the people, not promoted into the position as a police chief would be. As a result, sometimes the new sheriff wants to clean house, so to speak, and get in a bunch of his own people, and the deputies can just be let go on the whim of the sheriff. So, the position he held would not have been as secure as a job at a police department, hence, CA wanting him to get something a little more secure given they had a family to support. Often folks who can't make the cut in the police dept go on to become deputies, or, even further down the food chain, security. There is definitely snobbery in LE, with FBI perceived at the top and sheriff depts near the bottom.

[countzero]

If I think correctly, the amount for KC's would have been $600. Remember, the checks were dependent on what you filed on your tax return. $600 would be no income and 1 child. GA& CA=$1200.

ETA: Ahhh haaa, GA & CA was this amount b/c I bet they filed for Caylee.

IMO KC couldn't receive a $600. check because she didn't file an income tax return for 07 and a filed return is necessary to have received the $600.00 check.

Legally, CA/GA cannot file Caylee as a dependent because they do not have legal standing as guardian and/or Caylee is not disabled for them to include her as a dependent on their taxes.

Our daughter and grandkids lived with us and we paid all the bills for my grandkids and we were not allowed to include them as dependents because we did not have legal custody. Even now that I have joint legal custody of the oldest grandson, and pay more than 1/2 of his expenses, I cannot file him as a dependent.

[countzero]

Thats what I heard as well. Not sure if Sheriff depts work the same in FL as they do in Va, but here, the Sheriff position is a political one. The sheriff is elected by the people, not promoted into the position as a police chief would be. As a result, sometimes the new sheriff wants to clean house, so to speak, and get in a bunch of his own people, and the deputies can just be let go on the whim of the sheriff. So, the position he held would not have been as secure as a job at a police department, hence, CA wanting him to get something a little more secure given they had a family to support. Often folks who can't make the cut in the police dept go on to become deputies, or, even further down the food chain, security. There is definitely snobbery in LE, with FBI perceived at the top and sheriff depts near the bottom.

Bold by me. LOL, you must live near me! This has been a running joke for years.

[mollie]

One of the reasons I finally joined, after reading for many years (going all the way back to Jon Benet if you can believe it, through the Holloway case) is that I have worked for a marketing company for years. We do business with Kodak and many other major tech companies, and all our contracts are with them, although the people that work on their programs are completely employed by us. We even have offices on these various company campuses. Our employees are not contract workers(these programs are by contract with the vendor/client for a certain period) they work for us, and receive benifits,withholding. Our employees work across programs if they are qualified and wish to pick up hours. It is possible to become FT in the field, as long as there are no program conflicts (i.e. Apple/Microsoft, Kodak/Cannon)

My company is legit, however, there are others in this business that do employ "contract" workers(meaning each works for him/herself) or worse, do not keep records on the books, so to say. "Event Planners" falls right in to this category, as do greeters, demonstrator, etc.

It's a small industry, and everyone seems to know everyone and how to play all the games, if they want to. I've wondered if KC was "working for one of these companies, as it is so competitive, more of having bodies show up than anything else at times. Of course, this is not what my company is about, or what I manage, but I have had to fire quite a few people who thought they could scam me, my programs, my client. Big talkers, big liars,had a reason/escape clause for everything.

If KC found the right company, worked off the books so to say, even under another name, it might have worked for a while. She had just enough knowledge to get her in the door.

[Gaia713]

Maybe he is on disability and he is just now getting a job to work through the thousands of dollars in debt Casey rang up. Financially things have to have gotten worse in the 41 days.

I think not. They have all those donations from the jars that KidFinders set out. IF it wasn't lucrative, whyw ould George want to work for them instead of a "paying" job? Particularly with Cindy not working

[Gaia713]

One of the reasons I finally joined, after reading for many years (going all the way back to Jon Benet if you can believe it, through the Holloway case) is that I have worked for a marketing company for years. We do business with Kodak and many other major tech companies, and all our contracts are with them, although the people that work on their programs are completely employed by us. We even have offices on these various company campuses. Our employees are not contract workers(these programs are by contract with the vendor/client for a certain period) they work for us, and receive benifits,withholding. Our employees work across programs if they are qualified and wish to pick up hours. It is possible to become FT in the field, as long as there are no program conflicts (i.e. Apple/Microsoft, Kodak/Cannon)

My company is legit, however, there are others in this business that do employ "contract" workers(meaning each works for him/herself) or worse, do not keep records on the books, so to say. "Event Planners" falls right in to this category, as do greeters, demonstrator, etc.

It's a small industry, and everyone seems to know everyone and how to play all the games, if they want to. I've wondered if KC was "working for one of these companies, as it is so competitive, more of having bodies show up than anything else at times. Of course, this is not what my company is about, or what I manage, but I have had to fire quite a few people who thought they could scam me, my programs, my client. Big talkers, big liars,had a reason/escape clause for everything.

If KC found the right company, worked off the books so to say, even under another name, it might have worked for a while. She had just enough knowledge to get her in the door.

Here's the reasons I don't believe her.
1) She never claimed to work for a contract company
2) Cindy claimed she has the time cards to prove it (time cards must be turned into employer in order to be paid.
3) Cindy claims to have check stubs - wouldn't she question a pay stub if it was from someone other than Uiversal
4) Casey took the police to Universal to prove she worked there, not to a contract comapny

[LI_Mom]

Welcome Mollie.

I don't believe she worked because I'm SURE investigators checked to see if she EVER filed tax returns.

Not to mention, I'm sure any employer would have contacted LE to let them know Casey was an employee.

And.... there's NO WAY Cindy would not be loduly refuting the claims that Casey had no job IF she had any real job.

[LI_Mom]

Here's the reasons I don't believe her.

2) Cindy claimed she has the time cards to prove it (time cards must be turned into employer in order to be paid.
3) Cindy claims to have check stubs - wouldn't she question a pay stub if it was from someone other than Uiversal


I bet Cindy kept those things in the same place she has that picture of the Nanny.

(In her imagination)

[magic-cat]

I bet Cindy kept those things in the same place she has that picture of the Nanny.

(In her imagination)

Yeah, the illusive "picture of the nanny in the park with Casey and Caylee"...wonder whatever became of that one?

I just think it is important that we all realize that she was not working since she had Caylee...Perhaps it was more than she could manage, or she just felt that she deserved a free ride from her parents since she had given them a grandchild. EVERYTHING was provided for her has been made clear by George. Money was also handed to her left and right from mom and dad, AND she was stealing tons of money...and all for what? For Casey to run around like a 17 year old with no worries, concerns or cares in the world...everything provided free of charge and without obligations...I would bet her mom even cleaned her room (a thing that I insist my children do from about the age of 15 on their own...until then I provide assistance:))...My 11 year old son who is autistic seems to have more responsibilities than Casey-a grown mother of 22...How does THAT make any sense?

So where WAS she going while Lauren and the Grunds and Jesse were babysitting? and what did she do with Caylee ALL THAT TIME after these good people stopped helping her while her mom was at work? I am sure that George took care of Caylee some of that time, as it appears he was out of work up until he started a new job the day they "caught" Casey...

[mollie]

Thanks for the welcome!

Just to counter how these people operate,and help explain how KC might have had money for part of this time until she started stealing:

Here's the reasons I don't believe her.
1) She never claimed to work for a contract company -Believe me, no one says they work for a "contract company", they love to say Kodak, Apple, Microsoft, etc. They are actually trained to say "I represent.....", getting around directly stating who they work for
2) Cindy claimed she has the time cards to prove it (time cards must be turned into employer in order to be paid. -CA, enough said. And even these companies do everything by computer now, no time cards.
3) Cindy claims to have check stubs - wouldn't she question a pay stub if it was from someone other than Uiversal-CA, again, where are the stubs? No, if KC did work for one of these off the books, there will be no trace.
4) Casey took the police to Universal to prove she worked there, not to a contract comapny KC is crazy, but why give up an FED charge, a company that paid her off the books?

All I'm saying is she had a source of income that we don't know about, obviously. If it was off the books or illegal, no company or person will step forward and say so.

[LI_Mom]

Yeah, the illusive "picture of the nanny in the park with Casey and Caylee"...wonder whatever became of that one?

I just think it is important that we all realize that she was not working since she had Caylee...Perhaps it was more than she could manage, or she just felt that she deserved a free ride from her parents since she had given them a grandchild. EVERYTHING was provided for her has been made clear by George. Money was also handed to her left and right from mom and dad, AND she was stealing tons of money...and all for what? For Casey to run around like a 17 year old with no worries, concerns or cares in the world...everything provided free of charge and without obligations...I would bet her mom even cleaned her room (a thing that I insist my children do from about the age of 15 on their own...until then I provide assistance:))...My 11 year old son who is autistic seems to have more responsibilities than Casey-a grown mother of 22...How does THAT make any sense?

So where WAS she going while Lauren and the Grunds and Jesse were babysitting? and what did she do with Caylee ALL THAT TIME after these good people stopped helping her while her mom was at work? I am sure that George took care of Caylee some of that time, as it appears he was out of work up until he started a new job the day they "caught" Casey...

If I had to guess... I'd think Casey wasted lots of time hanging out at malls & maybe the beaches or parks until her friends were done with school or work.

IMO, I don't think Cindy or George were really able to get Casey to shape up & were probably tired of fighting about it all the time.

Their worst mistake was NOT hiring a full time nanny for Caylee & being SURE the child was being taken care of when they were at work. If they had only admitted the SAD TRUTH.... that Casey was totally irresponsible & incapable of taking care of even herself, let along a baby.... they could have 'saved' their family.

Looking back, they should have taken over TOTAL control of Caylee without even confronting Casey..... Casey would have been quite happy to find out she didn't even have to look at the baby anymore. Without the fighting over responsibility, Casey wouldn't have needed to use her as pawn to hurt her family. She could have moved out like she wanted to & would have ended up dead or in jail OR she might have even grown up eventually, who knows.... but Caylee would have been safe.

Casey is totally unreasonable... how can parents have even close to a reasonable conversation with such a child?

[Gaia713]

Yeah, the illusive "picture of the nanny in the park with Casey and Caylee"...wonder whatever became of that one?

I just think it is important that we all realize that she was not working since she had Caylee...Perhaps it was more than she could manage, or she just felt that she deserved a free ride from her parents since she had given them a grandchild. EVERYTHING was provided for her has been made clear by George. Money was also handed to her left and right from mom and dad, AND she was stealing tons of money...and all for what? For Casey to run around like a 17 year old with no worries, concerns or cares in the world...everything provided free of charge and without obligations...I would bet her mom even cleaned her room (a thing that I insist my children do from about the age of 15 on their own...until then I provide assistance:))...My 11 year old son who is autistic seems to have more responsibilities than Casey-a grown mother of 22...How does THAT make any sense?

So where WAS she going while Lauren and the Grunds and Jesse were babysitting? and what did she do with Caylee ALL THAT TIME after these good people stopped helping her while her mom was at work? I am sure that George took care of Caylee some of that time, as it appears he was out of work up until he started a new job the day they "caught" Casey...


My guess? Trolling for guys

[DotsEyes]

IIRC the FBI agent told Cindy that they know that KC has not been employed for at least 18 months (?) anywhere.

Innocent parents do not lie about where they work when their baby is missing.

LE isn't concerned about someone being paid under the table when they are looking for a missing baby. It just isn't important in the big scheme of things.

KC wasn't working anywhere I believe that fact has been established. If she is hiding some under the table work, then she is just plain stupid.

[sharpar]

All I'm saying is she had a source of income that we don't know about, obviously. If it was off the books or illegal, no company or person will step forward and say so.[/quote]

Its not obvious at all - in fact to me its pretty apparent that she had
no income and desperately needed money . She was stealing gas for her car. Parents were picking up most other expenses
why no gas money ? Why steal to buy a hundred dollars worth
of inexpensive clothes and accessories from a friend who would have let you mooch much more over the long haul ?

[mollie]

Oh I absolutely agree in the last 6-12 months, she was stealing like crazy. I just think she had something going on for a while after Caylee was born, but before the middle of 2007 or so.

I definitely could be wrong, but something just feels like she had some source or income for a while, that fell through and helped start this spiral of doom.

[cocoamom]

I cannot recall who -

Didn't someone work for an ABC Distributing company or something? I have looked and looked and can't find where I read it - search doesn't find it either...

Also, who is Kiomarie and where did they work?

TIA!!!
:)

[snowme]

Regarding GA's employment as a Deputy years ago... may I just say that I am so sincerely glad that this man is no longer with badge & gun "protecting & serving". With some of his boyish comments to LE & FBI regarding how he'd investigate, etc., the whole family's apparent lack of trust in LE and complete lack of understanding on how "they" work and operate, his childlike hope that an email scam could bring him millions, coupled with the fact that Casey and ALL of her mess went on right under his "trained" and "experienced" nose and he participated in allowing it to come to be.... who needs his kind of protection & service?! His keen LE skills didn't serve nor protect his own granddaughter. I dare say outright that he wasn't cut out for LE - someone who is doesn't drop it because his wife feels a car dealership will make him more money and even if he did leave it... those skills, dedication and drive stay with you and it is apparent in your lifestyle. The old saying "once a cop, always a cop" comes to mind. If GA had that passion within him this mess may never have ocurred.

JMO

[Sassynic]

Regarding GA's employment as a Deputy years ago... may I just say that I am so sincerely glad that this man is no longer with badge & gun "protecting & serving". With some of his boyish comments to LE & FBI regarding how he'd investigate, etc., the whole family's apparent lack of trust in LE and complete lack of understanding on how "they" work and operate, his childlike hope that an email scam could bring him millions, coupled with the fact that Casey and ALL of her mess went on right under his "trained" and "experienced" nose and he participated in allowing it to come to be.... who needs his kind of protection & service?! His keen LE skills didn't serve nor protect his own granddaughter. I dare say outright that he wasn't cut out for LE - someone who is doesn't drop it because his wife feels a car dealership will make him more money and even if he did leave it... those skills, dedication and drive stay with you and it is apparent in your lifestyle. The old saying "once a cop, always a cop" comes to mind. If GA had that passion within him this mess may never have ocurred.

JMO

He is still a security guard contracted to Disney....he still "protects and serves" in a different way. :crazy:

[Pattymarie]

If I had to guess... I'd think Casey wasted lots of time hanging out at malls & maybe the beaches or parks until her friends were done with school or work.


Can you just imagine how she resented being tied down "babysitting" her own child when she wanted nothing more to be free of her parents, have her own "career" and party.

[passionflower]

Who paid her phone bills?

I found this in the discovery documents - in her Internet archive - where the phone bill had been paid online:

Date Paid || Amount
04/03/2007|| $417.47
05/25/2007|| $372.82
07/24/2007|| $414.11
09/24/2007|| $497.75
12/04/2007|| $814.00
01/24/2008|| $180.21
02/27/2008|| $160.57
03/26/2008|| $191.17
04/08/2008|| $354.04
05/06/2008|| $574.60
06/25/2008|| $377.33
07/15/2008|| $574.60

Total Due || $167.50

This is a hell of a phone bill for someone with a job, much less without one.

Sundance

outrageous!!

[nobull]

Thanks for the welcome!

Just to counter how these people operate,and help explain how KC might have had money for part of this time until she started stealing:

Here's the reasons I don't believe her.
1) She never claimed to work for a contract company -Believe me, no one says they work for a "contract company", they love to say Kodak, Apple, Microsoft, etc. They are actually trained to say "I represent.....", getting around directly stating who they work for
2) Cindy claimed she has the time cards to prove it (time cards must be turned into employer in order to be paid. -CA, enough said. And even these companies do everything by computer now, no time cards.
3) Cindy claims to have check stubs - wouldn't she question a pay stub if it was from someone other than Uiversal-CA, again, where are the stubs? No, if KC did work for one of these off the books, there will be no trace.
4) Casey took the police to Universal to prove she worked there, not to a contract comapny KC is crazy, but why give up an FED charge, a company that paid her off the books?

All I'm saying is she had a source of income that we don't know about, obviously. If it was off the books or illegal, no company or person will step forward and say so.

Hi Mollie, welcome!

I have to disagree also. There's a fairly small amount of sleuthing involved to figure out that she was sucking off the teat of the mommy and daddy cash cow for quite awhile.

But, just for the sake of discussion, I assume you are suggesting that she was paid in cash? 'Cause that's the only way that game would have worked. Any other way would have left a paper trail. And, if that were true, I'm sure someone would have squawked by now. God knows, this story would make bank for someone selling rights at the National Enquirer, for example.

[snowme]

He is still a security guard contracted to Disney....he still "protects and serves" in a different way. :crazy:

:) well, yea... I don't consider security guards to be LE in any way so yea, a different way. I tend to see security jobs as those hired to protect whatever firm/company they serve from having problems but not necessarily protecting or serving the public.

[Jolynna]

If Casey was "working" anywhere in the last 18 months, her phone would have pinged from towers by where she was employed.

The FBI told George it was clear Casey had not worked.

I have no doubt they've been tracking EVERYWHERE Casey was over the past year or more. Whatever Casey was doing they know about.