Cindy's Inconsistencies

[SeriouslySearching]

Are there discrepancies in the family statements regarding the disappearance of Caylee? Please list them here so we can decifer what is actually being said and figure out what the facts are about the disappearance of Caylee Marie Anthony.

[SeriouslySearching]

Inconsistent statement by Cindy:

Today in the court hearing, LE was clear that Cindy Anthony made conflicting statements regarding the last time she was known to be with Caylee, the grandaughter. She stated to LE in her initial statement that she last saw Caylee on or about June 8th or 9th. The Detective confronted her on July 21, 2008 with information that a video of Caylee had been made (admittedly by Cindy) on Father's Day, June 15th, at the assisted living center where her father resides.

[SeriouslySearching]

Lie #2 from Cindy Anthony which came out in court today:

Cindy had emphatically told the press that Caylee's father died in a car accident and she could not remember his name, but was sure of it because she had seen the obituary.

Today, she stated under oath that she believed that Jesse Grund was Caylee's biological father and she also said that his family had taken care of Caylee a few times.

[gitana1]

At the bond hearing, Cindy keeps saying she was in constant contact with Casey after June 15, 2008 and that until July 15, 2008, she had no reason to ask Casey during that time where Caylee was because she knew where she was, with Casey. But, what about a myspace message that she posted, I believe the date was July 3, 2008, in which she stated that Caylee was missing and something to the effect of jealousy being the cause of Caylee being kept from her by her daughter? I am mistaken here? Was the date issue ever resolved with when that message was actually posted? Seems like a discrepancy.

[SeriouslySearching]

Can't have it both ways: Cindy Anthony said her daughter "has her reasons why she just can't blurt out the whole story."

"Casey has been trying to tell the police in her own way what she can tell them and the only unfortunate thing is, you know, they want a clear picture," Cindy Anthony told FOX News on Monday. "There's no clear picture. Casey has her reasons why she just can't blurt out the whole story, so she's been honest with them for what she can be honest with."

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They have previously said that almost nothing Anthony has told them about her child's disappearance has checked out to be true. They haven't even been able to get information about the child's father, who Anthony has said is dead, Melich testified.

Also at Tuesday's hearing — held to argue over whether or not to release Casey from jail — the child's grandmother said her daughter is a good mom and hasn't committed a crime but has been dishonest before and has had trouble keeping jobs.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,388202,00.html

[bookbakery]

[quote=SeriouslySearching;2408090]Can't have it both ways: Cindy Anthony said her daughter "has her reasons why she just can't blurt out the whole story."

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Like Mother, Like Daughter. Both (Cindy & Casey) are chronic liars. Can't believe what either one of them says. :mad:

[Hailiejade77]

Cindy has said in interviews that Casey only had 1/2 credit to go before she graduated HS.

But in the bond hearing she kept saying after Casey's graduation.

[SuziQ]

Inconsistencies

http://www.local6.com/news/16983738/detail.html

(snip)
"So, you call 911 and say arrest my daughter, my car is stolen, my granddaughter is missing, her car smells like decomposition, your daughter has lied to you and the cops and you think Caylee is in good hands?" Local 6's Mike DeForest asked.

"I called 911 because I didn't know where Caylee was at -- that is a fact," Cindy Anthony said. "The car came home smelling terrible but we knew why it was."

Cindy Anthony also apparently contradicted what she told prosecutors at a hearing this week concerning her daughter's whereabouts during the time Caylee was missing.

"I need to find (Caylee)," Cindy Anthony said on a 911 call.

"Your daughter admitted that the baby is where?" the 911 operator said.

"The baby sitter took her a month ago," Anthony said. "I told you my daughter's been missing for a month. I just found her today but I can't find my granddaughter. She just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself."

However, during this week's bond hearing, Cindy Anthony said she had been in contact with Casey.

"From June 16 to July 15, did you have any contact with Casey?" a prosecutor asked at the hearing.

"Everyday," Cindy Anthony said. "We called each other. We left voice messages. She'd text me. There was contact everyday."

[absolut_alexis]

During the bond hearing (http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7039126&version=1&locale=EN-US), Cindy said there was a sitter who came to the house.

the pros. asks about where Caylee was starting Oct 2005, when Casey went back to work:

CA: At first when she was working, her best friend Lauren would come to the house.
pros: and this friend Lauren, she was the consistent babysitter?
CA: yes, she was the consistent babysitter.

Yet Jesse's dad says, "If you read my blog, Caylee was here almost every day of the first ten months of her life (http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=Websleuths&msg=117.5&search=y). We all fell in love with her. This is personal for all of us."

[Patience]

'Blame Yourself For Telling Lies,' Daughter Told In Jailhouse Call
http://www.local6.com/news/16991530/detail.html

During one of the calls, Cindy Anthony said her daughter's car smelled like a dead body -- mentioning it three separate times to the 911 dispatcher.

"There is something wrong, I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car," Cindy Anthony said.


However, days later she said the smell from the car was rotting food.


Cindy Anthony also apparently contradicted what she told prosecutors at a hearing this week concerning her daughter's whereabouts during the time Caylee was missing.


"I told you my daughter's been missing for a month," Anthony said in the 911 call. "I just found her today but I can't find my granddaughter. She just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself."


However, something different was said during this week's bond hearing.


"From June 16 to July 15, did you have any contact with Casey?" a prosecutor asked at the hearing.


"Everyday," Cindy Anthony said. "We called each other. We left voice messages. She'd text me. There was contact everyday."

[CheckDaFacts]

'Blame Yourself For Telling Lies,' Daughter Told In Jailhouse Call
http://www.local6.com/news/16991530/detail.html

During one of the calls, Cindy Anthony said her daughter's car smelled like a dead body -- mentioning it three separate times to the 911 dispatcher.

"There is something wrong, I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car," Cindy Anthony said.


However, days later she said the smell from the car was rotting food.


Cindy Anthony also apparently contradicted what she told prosecutors at a hearing this week concerning her daughter's whereabouts during the time Caylee was missing.


"I told you my daughter's been missing for a month," Anthony said in the 911 call. "I just found her today but I can't find my granddaughter. She just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself."


However, something different was said during this week's bond hearing.


"From June 16 to July 15, did you have any contact with Casey?" a prosecutor asked at the hearing.


"Everyday," Cindy Anthony said. "We called each other. We left voice messages. She'd text me. There was contact everyday."

You are so on top :clap::clap: I look for your references thank U!!!

[Patience]

You are so on top :clap::clap: I look for your references thank U!!!

Who me? oh, well thank you, I have been taught and inspired by the members here on how to post the appropriate info but am not always so on top:crazy:, but thanks and I'll keep on, keeping on for little Caylee Marie Anthony, whereever she may be.

[ElizaAvalon]

I hesitate to use the words "Cindy's Lies" because I do not believe she is involved in her granddaughter's disappearance, but she's not consistent in her statements and actions.

From this report on July 18th:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-caylee-anthony-080718-ht,0,5928334.story?page=2

In early June, Casey Anthony told her mother she was being sent to Tampa (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/us/florida/hillsborough-county/tampa-PLGEO100100404010000.topic) for work and would be back in a few days. Later, she said she was going on a "mini-vacation" with friends and taking Caylee with her. Cindy Anthony never thought much of it.

<snip>

"I had no reason to believe they weren't where they were supposed to be," Cindy Anthony said. "I don't know why she fabricated this."

Cindy's myspace:
Thursday, July 03, 2008
my caylee is missing
Current mood: distraught

She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?

Inconsistencies:

Casey/Caylee's planned vs. unplanned departure from Anthony home:
1) Myspace: The daughter <snip> leaves without warning and Where did she go?
vs
Statement: Casey Anthony told her mother she was being sent to Tampa (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/us/florida/hillsborough-county/tampa-PLGEO100100404010000.topic) for work and would be back in a few days. Later, she said she was going on a "mini-vacation" with friends and taking Caylee with her. <snip> "I had no reason to believe they weren't where they were supposed to be," Cindy Anthony said.

Why does Cindy tell reporters that Casey left for a vacation that she knew about yet writes on myspace that Caylee left without warning?

I think they left without warning, after some "drama" that Casey wrote about on someone's facebook 9 days after the 15th of June:

Casey Anthony (http://www.facebook.com/s.php?k=100000080&id=508228238) (Orlando, FL) wrote at 2:40pm on June 24th, 2008 she still has yet to move into the house. hell, in the past 9 days, i haven't even been living at the house. DRAMMMMMA. i'll fill ya in later on.

Knowledge of Casey/Caylee's whereabouts vs. not knowing where they were:
2) Myspace: Where did she go?
vs
Statement: "I had no reason to believe they weren't where they were supposed to be," Cindy Anthony said.

Does she know where they went? Or doesn't she? She can't decide.

Cindy's mood: Upset vs. Indifferent:
3) Myspace on 7/3:
my caylee is missing
Current mood: distraught
vs.
Statement on 7/18:
...she said she was going on a "mini-vacation" with friends and taking Caylee with her. Cindy Anthony never thought much of it.

Was she distraught or whas she not thinking much about it?

I'll go with distraught.

Knowledge of lack of job vs. believing Casey has a job:
4) Cindy implies she believes her daughter has a job in her statement: Casey Anthony told her mother she was being sent to Tampa (http://www.chicagotribune.com/topic/us/florida/hillsborough-county/tampa-PLGEO100100404010000.topic) for work and would be back in a few days.
vs.
myspace: No money, no future.

If she had a job, one would think she had money from the job and possibly a future? Did Cindy know or not know that Casey didn't have a job?

[AlwaysShocked]

Every time I see her speak I keep thinking "What exactly is it that this woman is trying to hide?" And I don't think she had anything to do with the child's disappearance either.

But she is hiding something. More lies told by the daughter? Doesn't want the daughter to look any worse than she already does? What??

Is anyone but me getting this sense from Cindy?

[KR2tonenow]

Cindy is in denial. The 911 calls say it all.

[Straitfan]

It seems like it is more about Casey's past, what happened that caused Casey to leave, I feel Cindy doesn't want all of that known as I feel she still wants to hold out hope that Caylee is out there somewhere alive. The fact she didn't see Caylee during that time leads me to believe Cindy and Casey may have had a MAJOR disagreement. Why would Casey leave Caylee w/ other people when it appears she could have just left her w/grandparents?? I think Cindy could have told her to get out of the house due to lying, money etc and know has guilt feelings since Caylee is missing..

[fran]

Cindy is in denial. The 911 calls say it all.

I just caught the tail end of the segment on the O'Reilly factor with Geraldo. Geraldo has been in Florida and talked to Cindy.

It's Geraldo's opinion that the ONLY time Cindy has really told the truth was the 911 call. He said those were utterences said (not sure exact words) in a moment of excited urgency. He thinks since that time, she has NOT been truthful.

I agree. Geraldo said Cindy's statement of the odor in the car was the LAST truthful words she spoke.

JMHO
fran

PS..Oh, yeah, I agree...fran

[Chanler]

I just caught the tail end of the segment on the O'Reilly factor with Geraldo. Geraldo has been in Florida and talked to Cindy.

It's Geraldo's opinion that the ONLY time Cindy has really told the truth was the 911 call. He said those were utterences said (not sure exact words) in a moment of excited urgency. He thinks since that time, she has NOT been truthful.

I agree. Geraldo said Cindy's statement of the odor in the car was the LAST truthful words she spoke.

JMHO
fran

PS..Oh, yeah, I agree...fran

Hi, Fran; I think that strikes a chord of truth. In the 911 calls, Cindy is speaking emotionally to the police. In her media appearances, she is attempting (very badly) to present herself as a protective mother. She's in way over her head and can't even maintain coherency; I wouldn't be surprised if she can't remember what she has already said.

[ElizaAvalon]

I agree with Geraldo (not that I want to!) - Cindy's last truths were in those 911 phone calls.

[JBean]

Death stench:

Cindy states that the smell came from pizza. http://www.wftv.com/news/17102415/detail.html

No, wait. It was a dead squirrel. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,5106260.story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-caylee-marie-anthony-072508,0,5106260.story)

Hmmm....maybe it was roadkill. http://www.wesh.com/news/17081458/detail.html

The shovel:

Every 22-year-old party-girl digs up bamboo...that's the most logical explanation for what she did with the shovel while her daughter was missing. http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2...ta-transcript/ (http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/george-and-cindy-anthony-speak-with-greta-transcript/)

The party-girl photos.

Don't be silly...she didn't party while her daughter was missing! Those party-girl photos are from when she was pregnant with the child. http://www.wesh.com/news/17081458/detail.html

Paternity:

Like most young mothers, our daughter is raising her son without assistance from the male parental unit, because he started another family in another state and then died in an accident, and we've known he was dead "for years," even though Casey tried to pin paternity on Jesse Grund for the first year of Caylee's life. http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2...ta-transcript/ (http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/george-and-cindy-anthony-speak-with-greta-transcript/) http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398762,00.html

Cadaver Dogs:

Those silly mutts don't know what they're doing. They were inconsistent in their hits. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398762,00.html

The letter:

When she's had a few moments of quote-rec-time, Casey penned a letter and gave it to her attorney, No Way Jose. But No Way Jose said that the letter thing is "absurd," and he's received no such letter. http://www.wftv.com/news/17090663/detail.html

Jailhouse sources have since revealed that the quote-rec-time musings of Casey Anthony looked something like this:

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7861/caseyletterdg9.gif

(The "letter" above is satire, and created by my own hand. Sorry if it angers anyone.)
carrying posts from the thread I started in error as there is already one started.

[websurfer]

I agree with Geraldo (not that I want to!) - Cindy's last truths were in those 911 phone calls.


Once an attorney stepped in

well..shall we say

Clam Family ?

[Beyond Belief]

this may or may not belong here, but a question i was wondering about.
In the beginning, sorry, don't have the reference. It was said that the grandparents would pay for everything for Caylee, except Casey had to earn her own entertainment money.
So my question is: To whom did the grandparents make babysitting payments too.? And why wasn't anyone interested in enrolling an almost 3 year old in a preschool for the fall?

[Parker]

Since this thread is dedicated to insconsistent statements made by the Anthony family (namely Cindy) I thought this would be the proper place to discuss what I am about to say.

Now, before anyone flames me, let me make it clear that, in my opinion, Casey Anthony did kill Caylee (and I don't believe it was an accident) and I am not defending Cindy Anthony at all.

But, if you have children, you know how much you love them and how much of yourself you try to install in them as they grow. Now, imagine for one terrible moment that the child you have loved, nurtured and watched grow into an adult has done something unspeakable. Something in your worst dreams you couldn't imagine...

None of us are living in Cindy's shoes (or George's for that matter) - what shock and horror they must be feeling right now. Most of us, I pray, will never find ourselves in that situation so I don't think we can honestly say how 'we' would react in that situation.

I have always felt that family's in this situation should appoint a "spokesperson" - someone who is NOT a family member. It would be hard enough to pull yourself together everyday in this situation, let alone have a million cameras and microphones thrust in your face everytime you walk out the door.

As I watch Cindy in these interviews, I see someone who is coming to the realization that her daughter is a monster. In the beginning, I think she really wanted to believe Casey (what mother wouldn't). If the 911 tapes didn't exist, I think I would feel different, but hearing Cindy on those tapes makes me believe that she had nothing to do with this. Cindy got caught up in listening to Casey's lies.

Now, after the 911 tapes...could Casey have told her parents and then everyone scrambled? I'm not sure...

[txsvicki]

It will be interesting to know if Cindy washed the pants before she overheard the conversation that Caylee had been kidnapped by the nanny or after. The timeline should show just how much time lapsed between picking up the car, the call to Amy, the call from Lee to Cindy, and the time between calls to 911.

[laughingul]

Hi all-
I am a new poster- mostly because I noticed this inconsistency and have not seen anyone else post it.

The police report from 6/24 states that the gas cans were $20 and contained $50 worth of gas- but on On The Record on 8/5-
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html

....
CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, and we actually need to replace a lot of stuff out here. But yes, this is one of the sheds that we would normally keep locked and normally keep the shovels in, which we do keep the shovels in. This is his toolshed. The lawn mower, you know, weed-whacker, that type of thing, shovels, axes, hoes, anything you do gardening work is locked up in here, like that. I mean, it's a normal shed.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was something reported stolen from this, though?

CINDY ANTHONY: Yes, gas cans.

VAN SUSTEREN: When was that report made that gas cans were stolen?

CINDY ANTHONY: You'd have to ask George.

VAN SUSTEREN: Was that, though, before Caylee was -- had been reported missing or after, that the gas cans...

CINDY ANTHONY: That was before.

GEORGE ANTHONY: Absolutely.

VAN SUSTEREN: And gas cans were -- how many gas cans?

GEORGE ANTHONY: Two, the 2-and-a-half-gallon and one about a gallon- and-a-quarter, something like that.


....

So- if you believe that- then MAYBE 4 gallons of gas were stolen. I know it is expensive- but more than $12 a gallon?

Did anyone else notice this?

[wedavis]

Has anyone seen the interview today where Cindy told the media that she got PERMISSION from the police to take "duffel bags" full of clothes out of the trunk before they seized the car?

Here is that interview:
http://www.local6.com/news/17131363/detail.html

It's the Friday's Developments Video

Now read the search warrant. It states Cindy took the clothes out BEFORE LE was contacted.

I think what is going on is Cindy is telling the police (or the judge, FBI) the truth but makes up all sorts of lies to everyone else (because that isn't illegal).

Now we know where Casey gets it from...

[wedavis]

I am also going to find interviews where Cindy says she has been hearing the name Zanny for three years, and interviews where she says she has never heard the name before July 15th.

These women give me a headache...

[txsvicki]

The really big inconsistency that is directly related to a reference to Cayley is the 911 call. Cindy says that Caylee is still missing, and "something's wrong, It smells like there's BEEN a dead body in the car". Then, it becomes a rotten pizza smell after Casey is arrested.

[wedavis]

The really big inconsistency that is directly related to a reference to Cayley is the 911 call. Cindy says that Caylee is still missing, and "something's wrong, It smells like there's BEEN a dead body in the car". Then, it becomes a rotten pizza smell after Casey is arrested.

Actually there is footage from around July 17th were Cindy was telling the camera that as a nurse and a former cop, her and George know what a dead body smells like and that is what they smelled in the trunk.

So Cindy's excuse that she just said the part about the dead body smell to "get the police to get there faster" is more bs.

Trying to go back in time and locate and insert the links to old interviews/footage isn't my favorite thing to do. Maybe tomorrow...

[TxRose]

I think the $50 has to be an error. I noticed that the first time I heard it and thought "wow...who keeps that much gas hanging around?". That's like a full tank of gas (though perhaps not with gas prices today! LOL). But that wouldn't make sense to have that much for lawnmowers, etc. I think it was probably just an error on someone's part.

[TxRose]

Here' my take on Cindy (JMO). She has a daughter who has never lived up to her expectations - even the lower ones. She doesn't finish school (I think this is true), can't hold a job, gets pregnant and no father is around, lies, steals, and in her own words "has no future". But along comes a second chance - little Caylee. From at least Casey's perspective, as warped as it may be, her mom is controlling and probably handles most aspects of Caylee's life. Either forcefully, or more likely because Casey isn't doing the job and is too busy out partying. Casey resents it even though she probably doesn't want the responsibility anyway. Casey is very immature. She and her mother probably fight over the things she is and isn't doing right with respect to Caylee. Casey finally decides she has had enough and decides she is going to pack up and move out. She is resentful of her mother's attention towards her daughter, and tired of her mom picking on her about her responsibilities. She leaves and takes Caylee with her - probably to spite her mom.

Though "constantly in contact" - I would imagine Casey and her mom mostly talk by phone or by text once Casey leaves on the 9th. And I would guess many of those calls were arguements. Cindy starts to ask to see Caylee and Casey just makes excuses why she can't. Perhaps this even happened before something happened to Caylee. Grandma is upset with Casey, but doesn't report anything to the police because it probably doesn't enter her mind that Casey would harm her daughter. She keeps asking, but probably isn't panickingat that point.

She finds her daughter on the 15th. It has been a month of listening to Casey stall about letting her see Caylee and Cindy is now upset, frustrated and angry. She threatens to turn Casey in to police on theft charges if she doesn't produce Caylee right NOW. Casey finally admits she doesn't have Caylee and hasn't seen her for a month. Cindy is distraught, in shock, and upset with Casey that she didn't say anything before. She is probably also upset with herself that she didn't figure this out sooner. I imagine she blames herself for the delay in reporting the disappearance, but I believe she honestly thought Caylee was ok all that time. I think in all her shock and anger at Casey, she doesn't stop to think how she is incriminating her with her statements made to 911.

After things settle down, she starts to back pedal and tries to cover up the damage. Her anger has calmed and she is thinking less emotionally. She then starts to try and excuse Casey's behavior, explain factual inconsistencies, etc. in an attempt to cover up for ther daughter she knows is in trouble now. She has probably covered for Casey all her life. I don't think Cindy was involved in any way. I think she is trying to save both Caylee and Casey the best way she can. Sometimes that is with ridiculous excuses, but she is probably doing the best she can. She may be saying some goofy stuff to the press, but she seems to be coorperating with LE...and that is most important.

Ok sorry - long rant!

[feddup]

'Blame Yourself For Telling Lies,' Daughter Told In Jailhouse Call
http://www.local6.com/news/16991530/detail.html

During one of the calls, Cindy Anthony said her daughter's car smelled like a dead body -- mentioning it three separate times to the 911 dispatcher.

"There is something wrong, I found my daughter's car today and it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car," Cindy Anthony said.


However, days later she said the smell from the car was rotting food.


Cindy Anthony also apparently contradicted what she told prosecutors at a hearing this week concerning her daughter's whereabouts during the time Caylee was missing.


"I told you my daughter's been missing for a month," Anthony said in the 911 call. "I just found her today but I can't find my granddaughter. She just admitted to me that she's been trying to find her herself."


However, something different was said during this week's bond hearing.


"From June 16 to July 15, did you have any contact with Casey?" a prosecutor asked at the hearing.


"Everyday," Cindy Anthony said. "We called each other. We left voice messages. She'd text me. There was contact everyday."

I dont know how to snip but the part about she talked about talking to Casey everyday is hard to believe. Why didnt she put Caylee on phone to say hi to Grandma? If it were me, I would wonder why she didnt put caylee on the phone......

[WindChime]

Bumping the thread up.

[feddup]

By July 3rd, per her myspace rant....Cindy hadnt talked to Caylee and was wondering where she was, who was taking care of her, etc.
Maybe they had a big July 4th BBQ every yr and by then she realized Caylee wouldnt be there (more excuses/lies from Casey) so wonder if Caylee was missing before July 3rd? :confused:

[ThoughtFox]

This is a great thread, and thanks to everyone who has posted stuff!

I think Casey was probably messed up at an early age, and her mother got used to telling lies about her, probably just to save face and make herself feel better. But this is way too much to handle, and Cindy is probably cracking up a little under the strain.

Still that doesn't explain all the lying and waffling. I can't stand listening to her talk on TV!

This Larry King Live Transcript is full of weird statements from Cindy:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/29/lkl.01.html

This first part is weirdly funny because obviously Cindy didn't know what Casey was doing at all, but she ends by saying she "knows her daughter pretty well." :eek:

KING: Why did you turn daughter in?

CINDY ANTHONY: Little background, Casey had gone on an extended trip, kind of trying to figure out -- she's 22. We were talking about when it might be the right time for her and Caylee to move out. And her trip just kept getting extended and extended, which was really not a red flag itself, I mean, the trip itself. There would be a few days at a time that she would go and stay with friends. She went from a couple different friends, and I never got a chance to speak with Caylee during that time.

I would ask Casey periodically if she could put Caylee on the phone or whatever, and there was always a very reasonable excuse. Either she was napping or she was already in bed. By the time I get home from work sometimes in the evening, and I would be able to speak to my daughter, it would be time for Caylee to be napping or going to bed.

KING: I got you. So she finally comes home?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, what happened was, to set the background right, she had told me that she had been in Jacksonville for the last week and a half. We had gotten a notice in the mail that we had a registered letter. We found the registered letter a few days before, but it was the weekend, so we had to go down and get it. And when we got it, my husband found out it was from a tow truck or a towing company.

And when we actually went down and found out that the car that she, you know, uses was not in Jacksonville, it was in Orlando and we found out the date, that was a huge red flag.

So I started calling her friends and I found one friend that had just seen her a few hours prior, and she took me to where Casey was at, and when I got there, there was no Caylee. So I started to feel like, what's going on? She had told me that she was at the sitter's. So we took her friend home. Her friend and her and I drove around for a while. It was later in the evening, about 7:00, 7:30. That's typically when we start getting Caylee down for a nap and Casey's response was that Caylee was probably already getting ready for bed and didn't want to disrupt her.

But being the selfish grandma that I am, I wanted to see my granddaughter. So we drove around a bit. And I tried to convince her to take me to her, and I just started getting an eerie feeling that something wasn't right in Casey's voice. I know my daughter pretty well.

[ThoughtFox]

This next quote is about whether or not it is a "kidnapping"

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/29/lkl.01.html

KING: So is it the suspicion that the baby-sitter kidnapped her?

CINDY ANTHONY: That's not suspicion. That's what Casey has maintained all along.

KING: Did you get a ransom note?

CINDY ANTHONY: No, it's not that type of kidnapping, sir, that this person loves this girl and wants to have her as her own. That happens all the time. That happened not too long ago. In Orlando, Florida, someone stole the baby right out of a hospital.

KING: So she's a runaway with this child?

CINDY ANTHONY: I believe so.

KING: And you're saying the authorities are not looking for that baby-sitter and the child?

CINDY ANTHONY: Well let me tell you why I say that. It's because they told us there was one person in central Florida with that name. In fact there's nine in central Florida. I just got a phone call on my way here that there's four in Fort Lauderdale and my daughter said that this girl had a Fort Lauderdale number and has connections in Fort Lauderdale and New York, and New Jersey.

In every state, there's people by this name. They think she's smart enough to make up this person for the last two and a half years, but dumb enough to park a car where in plain sight that her mother would drive by twice a day and see and leave her purse in the front seat of the car and not drive it into some lake.

So, my daughter is not a murder. My granddaughter is missing. My granddaughter is missing.

[ThoughtFox]

The following Larry King show happened on July 31st, just two days after the other one, and Cindy seems to be calling the 911 calls a lie, and her later statements the truth.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/31/lkl.01.html

CINDY ANTHONY: So, again, you know, when I called -- made the three 9/11 tapes, I said whatever I needed to do to get the authorities to come help me.

KING: I got you.

CINDY ANTHONY: So did I fabricate a lie at that point?

I worked on whatever I could to get them out there. So, you know, I'm not a liar. I just stretched the truth a little bit. The car wasn't where it was supposed to be so I said it was stolen because I didn't have any other reason to have the authorities come out to my house.

So that doesn't make me a liar or a murderer...

KING: Jose...

CINDY ANTHONY: ...and I don't think that makes my daughter...

KING: All right.

CINDY ANTHONY: ...a murderer, either, just because she has some mistruths.

[Fandy]

I feel sorry for this family as they are the victims....but LORDY!!! this woman needs to be quiet, she is not helping herself.

her thought procress may be spinning out of control given the horror of what happened, but her words are documented, she should flip/flop to herself.

[Anais]

Here' my take on Cindy (JMO). She has a daughter who has never lived up to her expectations - even the lower ones. She doesn't finish school (I think this is true), can't hold a job, gets pregnant and no father is around, lies, steals, and in her own words "has no future". But along comes a second chance - little Caylee. From at least Casey's perspective, as warped as it may be, her mom is controlling and probably handles most aspects of Caylee's life. Either forcefully, or more likely because Casey isn't doing the job and is too busy out partying. Casey resents it even though she probably doesn't want the responsibility anyway. Casey is very immature. She and her mother probably fight over the things she is and isn't doing right with respect to Caylee. Casey finally decides she has had enough and decides she is going to pack up and move out. She is resentful of her mother's attention towards her daughter, and tired of her mom picking on her about her responsibilities. She leaves and takes Caylee with her - probably to spite her mom.

Though "constantly in contact" - I would imagine Casey and her mom mostly talk by phone or by text once Casey leaves on the 9th. And I would guess many of those calls were arguements. Cindy starts to ask to see Caylee and Casey just makes excuses why she can't. Perhaps this even happened before something happened to Caylee. Grandma is upset with Casey, but doesn't report anything to the police because it probably doesn't enter her mind that Casey would harm her daughter. She keeps asking, but probably isn't panickingat that point.

She finds her daughter on the 15th. It has been a month of listening to Casey stall about letting her see Caylee and Cindy is now upset, frustrated and angry. She threatens to turn Casey in to police on theft charges if she doesn't produce Caylee right NOW. Casey finally admits she doesn't have Caylee and hasn't seen her for a month. Cindy is distraught, in shock, and upset with Casey that she didn't say anything before. She is probably also upset with herself that she didn't figure this out sooner. I imagine she blames herself for the delay in reporting the disappearance, but I believe she honestly thought Caylee was ok all that time. I think in all her shock and anger at Casey, she doesn't stop to think how she is incriminating her with her statements made to 911.

After things settle down, she starts to back pedal and tries to cover up the damage. Her anger has calmed and she is thinking less emotionally. She then starts to try and excuse Casey's behavior, explain factual inconsistencies, etc. in an attempt to cover up for ther daughter she knows is in trouble now. She has probably covered for Casey all her life. I don't think Cindy was involved in any way. I think she is trying to save both Caylee and Casey the best way she can. Sometimes that is with ridiculous excuses, but she is probably doing the best she can. She may be saying some goofy stuff to the press, but she seems to be coorperating with LE...and that is most important.

Ok sorry - long rant!

Excellent post!!! You know it's so bad with every person in the Anthony family with all of the lying that I simply cannot stand to listen to any of them speak anymore on the news!!! :mad:

[Dr. Pennypacker]

Here' my take on Cindy (JMO). She has a daughter who has never lived up to her expectations - even the lower ones. She doesn't finish school (I think this is true), can't hold a job, gets pregnant and no father is around, lies, steals, and in her own words "has no future". But along comes a second chance - little Caylee. From at least Casey's perspective, as warped as it may be, her mom is controlling and probably handles most aspects of Caylee's life. Either forcefully, or more likely because Casey isn't doing the job and is too busy out partying. Casey resents it even though she probably doesn't want the responsibility anyway. Casey is very immature. She and her mother probably fight over the things she is and isn't doing right with respect to Caylee. Casey finally decides she has had enough and decides she is going to pack up and move out. She is resentful of her mother's attention towards her daughter, and tired of her mom picking on her about her responsibilities. She leaves and takes Caylee with her - probably to spite her mom.

Though "constantly in contact" - I would imagine Casey and her mom mostly talk by phone or by text once Casey leaves on the 9th. And I would guess many of those calls were arguements. Cindy starts to ask to see Caylee and Casey just makes excuses why she can't. Perhaps this even happened before something happened to Caylee. Grandma is upset with Casey, but doesn't report anything to the police because it probably doesn't enter her mind that Casey would harm her daughter. She keeps asking, but probably isn't panickingat that point.

She finds her daughter on the 15th. It has been a month of listening to Casey stall about letting her see Caylee and Cindy is now upset, frustrated and angry. She threatens to turn Casey in to police on theft charges if she doesn't produce Caylee right NOW. Casey finally admits she doesn't have Caylee and hasn't seen her for a month. Cindy is distraught, in shock, and upset with Casey that she didn't say anything before. She is probably also upset with herself that she didn't figure this out sooner. I imagine she blames herself for the delay in reporting the disappearance, but I believe she honestly thought Caylee was ok all that time. I think in all her shock and anger at Casey, she doesn't stop to think how she is incriminating her with her statements made to 911.

After things settle down, she starts to back pedal and tries to cover up the damage. Her anger has calmed and she is thinking less emotionally. She then starts to try and excuse Casey's behavior, explain factual inconsistencies, etc. in an attempt to cover up for ther daughter she knows is in trouble now. She has probably covered for Casey all her life. I don't think Cindy was involved in any way. I think she is trying to save both Caylee and Casey the best way she can. Sometimes that is with ridiculous excuses, but she is probably doing the best she can. She may be saying some goofy stuff to the press, but she seems to be coorperating with LE...and that is most important.

Ok sorry - long rant!

Excellent post!!!

You summed it all up very well. I agree all the way with what you said.

[Fandy]

Why did Cindy wait until today to tell the media that SHE had a phone number (disconnected) for the babysitter?

I'm not going to comment on Cindy's 81 YO mother saying she spoke to Caylee after the 16th, i don't know the details of her mother's mental/physical state as she is elderly....(my own mother has age-related dementia, her story changes hourly).

[ThoughtFox]

I hadn't heard about the phone call news! Let's please try and give sources or links whenever possible, because I had to track this down in a long transcript:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html

VAN SUSTEREN: Go ahead.

PETRIMOULX: It was a call supposedly, you know, coming from (SIC) the Anthonys from Zenaida Gonzalez in which it came in from a private number, and she heard Caylee in the background of the phone call.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Private member -- so they weren't able to determine from certain who the phone call came from, right, just that it came from a private number?

PETRIMOULX: Well, investigators say this call never happen. I mean, that's what comes from the -- that comes from the Anthony family.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. So there's that dispute. Now, did Cindy, the grandmother, say that she had actually spoken to the baby-sitter and herself heard Caylee in the background, or is it simply the jailed mother who says that she heard Caylee in the background on July 16?

PETRIMOULX: Well, a new twist that came out today was Cindy Anthony actually said what would be Caylee's great-grandmother actually received a call at some point during while she was missing and that she may have heard Caylee in the background of a call. That's something that we hadn't heard before today, but during an interview, she had said that it wasn't only Casey that had heard Caylee during a phone call, but also the great- grandmother had also been involved in a phone call in which she heard Caylee.

VAN SUSTEREN: Now, was that on July 16, as well, or was that some time earlier that the great-grandmother supposedly got the phone call?

PETRIMOULX: She didn't clarify. I would imagine that -- she didn't clarify, so I mean, I'm not going to speculate on when that was. You know, she didn't clarify that.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. Has anyone located the Zenaida Gonzalez yet? I mean, is that -- is there any more information on that?

PETRIMOULX: Well, there was only one Zenaida Gonzalez that was ever linked to the apartment complex where Casey said she dropped Caylee off, and that woman has basically been cleared from the investigation. She did an interview with one of our local TV stations down here, where she basically said she's never met Casey, Caylee or the Anthonys, and has no idea why she was brought up in this investigation by Casey.

[ThoughtFox]

OK, here's the part about Cindy suddenly having the phone number in her records:

http://www.wftv.com/news/17161366/detail.html

Cindy said she shared new information with investigators Monday about Casey's phone records that she says shows Casey really did get a call from Caylee on July 15 from a "private number." She's even claiming that Caylee's great grandmother heard from Caylee during the time she's been missing.

"We had a long conversation about that today. Some of the stuff that got leaked out is erroneous and they're looking at some of those things today," Cindy said.

"How did the person who had Caylee get your mother's phone number?" WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked.

"She was programmed into my daughter's phone," Cindy said.

*more news at link*

[Fandy]

[QUOTE=ThoughtFox;2488314]I hadn't heard about the phone call news! Let's please try and give sources or links whenever possible, because I had to track this down in a long transcript:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html



I first read this on one of the many threads i read before I actually saw it on TV last night...i decided to post my comment here, it seemed the best place. i didn't even see a link to post.

[diablo]

Curious to verify what date Cindy's myspace page was created, and last updated with the "July 3rd" entry.

During the bond hearing, Cindy states that she does not know how to do things like myspace, and that Casey did all the work on the cayleeismissing page.

1) WHEN was Cindy's myspace created ?
Hopefully for her is was before June 15th...

2) WHEN was the July 3rd post actually posted ?

[ThoughtFox]

I hadn't heard about the phone call news! Let's please try and give sources or links whenever possible, because I had to track this down in a long transcript:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,402098,00.html

I first read this on one of the many threads i read before I actually saw it on TV last night...i decided to post my comment here, it seemed the best place. i didn't even see a link to post.

That's fine - I didn't mean to blame you! :blowkiss: I figured you may have seen it on another thread. If I sounded frustrated it's only that I don't have time to keep up with all the news!

[Fandy]

it was also pointed out that media links go in the media links thread.....sheesh! now i am more confused....:bang:

[ThoughtFox]

it was also pointed out that media links go in the media links thread.....sheesh! now i am more confused....:bang:

It's the custom here on the forum to tell where you saw something or read it - on which news channel for instance if you saw it on TV. If you saw it on another thread, that's fine, too.

And usually when people quote news stories they give a link, but it's not a rule or anything. Just courtesy.

This thread is for "listing" inconsistencies, and just to be organized, I've tried to post a link to what I've quoted.

[Fandy]

thanks for telling me, everything is moving fast and it's hard to keep up....i need to get back to my real life litterbox and stop obsessing about this.

[luvbeaches]

Here' my take on Cindy (JMO). She has a daughter who has never lived up to her expectations - even the lower ones. She doesn't finish school (I think this is true), can't hold a job, gets pregnant and no father is around, lies, steals, and in her own words "has no future". But along comes a second chance - little Caylee. From at least Casey's perspective, as warped as it may be, her mom is controlling and probably handles most aspects of Caylee's life. Either forcefully, or more likely because Casey isn't doing the job and is too busy out partying. Casey resents it even though she probably doesn't want the responsibility anyway. Casey is very immature. She and her mother probably fight over the things she is and isn't doing right with respect to Caylee. Casey finally decides she has had enough and decides she is going to pack up and move out. She is resentful of her mother's attention towards her daughter, and tired of her mom picking on her about her responsibilities. She leaves and takes Caylee with her - probably to spite her mom.

Though "constantly in contact" - I would imagine Casey and her mom mostly talk by phone or by text once Casey leaves on the 9th. And I would guess many of those calls were arguements. Cindy starts to ask to see Caylee and Casey just makes excuses why she can't. Perhaps this even happened before something happened to Caylee. Grandma is upset with Casey, but doesn't report anything to the police because it probably doesn't enter her mind that Casey would harm her daughter. She keeps asking, but probably isn't panickingat that point.

She finds her daughter on the 15th. It has been a month of listening to Casey stall about letting her see Caylee and Cindy is now upset, frustrated and angry. She threatens to turn Casey in to police on theft charges if she doesn't produce Caylee right NOW. Casey finally admits she doesn't have Caylee and hasn't seen her for a month. Cindy is distraught, in shock, and upset with Casey that she didn't say anything before. She is probably also upset with herself that she didn't figure this out sooner. I imagine she blames herself for the delay in reporting the disappearance, but I believe she honestly thought Caylee was ok all that time. I think in all her shock and anger at Casey, she doesn't stop to think how she is incriminating her with her statements made to 911.

After things settle down, she starts to back pedal and tries to cover up the damage. Her anger has calmed and she is thinking less emotionally. She then starts to try and excuse Casey's behavior, explain factual inconsistencies, etc. in an attempt to cover up for ther daughter she knows is in trouble now. She has probably covered for Casey all her life. I don't think Cindy was involved in any way. I think she is trying to save both Caylee and Casey the best way she can. Sometimes that is with ridiculous excuses, but she is probably doing the best she can. She may be saying some goofy stuff to the press, but she seems to be coorperating with LE...and that is most important.

Ok sorry - long rant!


I think you've summed up what's going on very accurately.

[Tricia]

Do you remember the old Warner Brothers cartoons? The ones where Bugs Bunny gets hit with a sledge hammer and it flattens his head, then he stands up (still flat headed mind you) and shakes his head and yells, "YABIDDY YABIDDY"

That is exactly what I did when I read this my space entry from Cindy that was posted on this thread;

Cindy's myspace:
Thursday, July 03, 2008
my caylee is missing
Current mood: distraught

She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?

(shaking my head back and forth furiously) "YABIDDY YABIDDY"

I know I am waaaay behind here. Sorry for the late reaction but honest to God, it is all right here folks. Their relationship drama, Caylee being used as a tug of war rope.

Doesn't this remind you all of the old saying, "If I can't have her nobody will?"

Did Caylee "love" grandma more? Did Caylee run to grandma first and not to Casey? Did Caylee accidentally call Cindy "Mommy" one too many times?

This just sickens me. To post this about your daughter for the world to see? This is a grown up family. They should act like one. Not like 12 year old girls arguing over a boyfriend.

[sweetwater]

Curious to verify what date Cindy's myspace page was created, and last updated with the "July 3rd" entry.

During the bond hearing, Cindy states that she does not know how to do things like myspace, and that Casey did all the work on the cayleeismissing page.

1) WHEN was Cindy's myspace created ?
Hopefully for her is was before June 15th...

2) WHEN was the July 3rd post actually posted ?

Were you able to verify this or ? This is interesting.

[JBean]

snipped for space

This just sickens me. To post this about your daughter for the world to see? This is a grown up family. They should act like one. Not like 12 year old girls arguing over a boyfriend.hey there.
I think sometimes when people post on their myspace or facebook or in the Websleuth's Jury Room, :eek: they forget that nothing is private online. I have seen many people post extremely intimate details about their life online and this passage is tame by comparison.
because it is written in the privacy of their own home it doesn't feel like it is public or, like here at WS, you get the feeling that only those you know are reading it.
That feeling quickly passes the first time your words come back and bite you in the a$$

There is no doubt that these two are clearly dysfunctional.

PS: I love your YABIDDY YABIDDY"

[sweetwater]

Sorry the post got away from me. I meant to say, is this able to be verified or would that information be sealed?
I can't believe these people at all.

[joanofarc]

So Cindy is implicating her own mother now in all of this. :waitasec:

She is saying that great-grandma heard Caylee in the background too...

How old is gr-gma? Does she live alone? What is her name? I know gr-gpa is in an extended care facility....

Sorry if this has been discussed...so many threads to read :confused:

[passionflower]

IMO, jealousy could be the motive for Casey! Caylee was probably spoiled by wacko grandma and Caylee probably cried for Cindy, etc. I read that Caylee had speech problems? true/false? Could Casey do away with her rival? Did she ever 'bond' with her baby with Cindy in the way??? Cindy and George created the enabled liar. Liars are not born, the are raised to lie. IMO

[chicoliving]

Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, said she washed the gray pants but told investigators early on in the investigation about that fact. Detectives said they learned about the pants being washed about a week ago.

http://www.local6.com/news/17169920/detail.html

[sweetwater]

I really feel that somehow, Cindy is complicit in this terrible ordeal.
Here's a theory, story-line. What if all that "flurry" of phone calls made on the 16th went unanswered because Cindy arrived home while Casey and an injured Caylee were there? And Cindy, being a nurse, for whatever reason, advised Casey that Caylee would be alright. Casey used that as an opportunity to give-away, do-away with Caylee?
Wouldn't that help to explain Cindy's otherwise inexplicable behavior?
I feel like Casey is going to blame Cindy, sooner or later.

[TxRose]

Casey Anthony's mother, Cindy Anthony, said she washed the gray pants but told investigators early on in the investigation about that fact. Detectives said they learned about the pants being washed about a week ago.

http://www.local6.com/news/17169920/detail.html

Yes, I distinctly remember in one interview she states she asked LE if she could wash the stuff she found in the car and they told her "go ahead". Then in another she said she had told them she had washed them and they weren't concerned. So in one case she asks before she does it, and the other she informs them afterwards. I believe after reading the search warrant that it states she washed them BEFORE contacting police because they smelled like the car!

[txsvicki]

Another inconsistency is Cindy saying that there was never a need to ask Caylee or talk about the nanny Zani, but the flurry of unanswered phone calls on the 16th show a need. What if there was an emergency and the unanswered calls were about a sick child or a broken down car with the child along.

[JBean]

Another inconsistency is Cindy saying that there was never a need to ask Caylee or talk about the nanny Zani, but the flurry of unanswered phone calls on the 16th show a need. What if there was an emergency and the unanswered calls were about a sick child or a broken down car with the child along.My babystter had a list of emergency numbers, but I don;t think I gave my babysitter number out to anyone in particular. Probably careless of me, but didn't have a need.

What really freaks me out about this whole Zani Nanny thing is that she talked about her for so long. I mean what the he!! was she up to? Even if she was Xanax Nanny which makes sense to me, why was she implying there was any nanny? She must have been up to no good on a regular basis.

[txsvicki]

I'm not sure if Cindy said that she had never had a number or last name for the babysitter or not, but you'd think that she would have at some point. Since there was no daddy or other set of grandparents, what if something had happened to Casey, such as a bad wreck, and Cindy would have no idea who had her grandchild or where she was. The Anthony's were the only other family since there was no daddy. It would be interesting to know if Cindy had a fake babysitter number that she may have tried calling the month that Casey and Caylee went missing.

[TxRose]

My babystter had a list of emergency numbers, but I don;t think I gave my babysitter number out to anyone in particular. Probably careless of me, but didn't have a need.

What really freaks me out about this whole Zani Nanny thing is that she talked about her for so long. I mean what the he!! was she up to? Even if she was Xanax Nanny which makes sense to me, why was she implying there was any nanny? She must have been up to no good on a regular basis.

My guess is that she needed a cover for her whole story. She told her parents she was working when she wasn't. Certainly they would ask where Caylee was if she was working. So she had to make up a story that Caylee goes to the nanny while she goes to work. Of course both of them were clearly elsewhere all that time.

[JBean]

My guess is that she needed a cover for her whole story. She told her parents she was working when she wasn't. Certainly they would ask where Caylee was if she was working. So she had to make up a story that Caylee goes to the nanny while she goes to work. Of course both of them were clearly elsewhere all that time.I know and that's what I mean! What the heck was she up to all that time?

[TxRose]

I know and that's what I mean! What the heck was she up to all that time?

Well, she was obviously coming up with a fabulous cover story for whatever happened to Caylee. She was stealing money and spending it. She was partying like a rock star. She was perfecting her myspace/facebook skills. She was learning alot about SIM cards. She was ordering pizza and leaving it in her car. LOL

[ThoughtFox]

Well, she was obviously coming up with a fabulous cover story for whatever happened to Caylee. She was stealing money and spending it. She was partying like a rock star. She was perfecting her myspace/facebook skills. She was learning alot about SIM cards. She was ordering pizza and leaving it in her car. LOL

Well-said! I just spewed coffee while reading your post. :)

[wedavis]

Actually there is footage from around July 17th were Cindy was telling the camera that as a nurse and a former cop, her and George know what a dead body smells like and that is what they smelled in the trunk.

So Cindy's excuse that she just said the part about the dead body smell to "get the police to get there faster" is more bs.

Trying to go back in time and locate and insert the links to old interviews/footage isn't my favorite thing to do. Maybe tomorrow...

I was mistaken. Here is the interview. I honestly have no idea what Cindy is trying to get at in the first 30 seconds of this interview. She certaintly isn't using the excuse that she was just trying to get police out to her house sooner. She must have thought of that excuse later.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/orl-caylee1608aug16,0,4717404.story

It is "Cindy Anthony Talks to Reporters after Bond Hearing". Scroll to page 7 in the video block to hear Cindy say she knows what decomposition smells like.

[TxRose]

I was mistaken. Here is the interview. I honestly have no idea what Cindy is trying to get at in the first 30 seconds of this interview. She certaintly isn't using the excuse that she was just trying to get police out to her house sooner. She must have thought of that excuse later.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/orl-caylee1608aug16,0,4717404.story

It is "Cindy Anthony Talks to Reporters after Bond Hearing". Scroll to page 7 in the video block to hear Cindy say she knows what decomposition smells like.

No - I didn't hear any mention of that either. I heard her basically say that she was a nurse and knew what decomposition smells like. She said the bag of pizza was what smelled and it was one of the worst things she ever smelled. So she was denying it was decomp. But here she never says that she said that to get police there quicker. I agree with you..I think she thought of that latter.

IMO - I think the 911 call was an "excited utterance" and that she spoke honestly and from the heart without thinking. I think the car smelled exactly as she described it in the 911 call - like decomposition. But I think after having time to think about it, and probably after George finally managed to shut her up, they decided to cover and back-track over the comment. I think the clip you posted is interesting in that George keeps trying to get her to stop talking and she is like the Energizer Bunny...she keeps going and going....

[sweetwater]

Curious to verify what date Cindy's myspace page was created, and last updated with the "July 3rd" entry.

During the bond hearing, Cindy states that she does not know how to do things like myspace, and that Casey did all the work on the cayleeismissing page.

1) WHEN was Cindy's myspace created ?
Hopefully for her is was before June 15th...

2) WHEN was the July 3rd post actually posted ?

I asked about this last week, too. I hope someone can tell us.

[newuser]

My confusion with Cindy is back to July 15th when she called 911 three times. Everyone knows the first two calls were calm. The third one, she mentions the dead body smell. Did she go out and smell the car between the second and third call? Why mention this in the third call? It's incredibly hard to believe that she made that discovery in the moments between the calls. When did she say she took the clothes out and washed them? She knew they smelled like the car, but only in a moment of panic does she think to tell someone the car smells.

[Bobby62]

Lie #2 from Cindy Anthony which came out in court today:

Cindy had emphatically told the press that Caylee's father died in a car accident and she could not remember his name, but was sure of it because she had seen the obituary.

Today, she stated under oath that she believed that Jesse Grund was Caylee's biological father and she also said that his family had taken care of Caylee a few times.

I have tried to be a proponent of Cindy. This part has bothered me a lot though. She knew when she said that under oath that DNA had cleared Jesse. This was not BS'ing reporters. This was under oath in a court of law.

Tryin' real hard to be the shepherd

[Bobby62]

This just sickens me. To post this about your daughter for the world to see? This is a grown up family. They should act like one. Not like 12 year old girls arguing over a boyfriend.

I have read snippets but this is my first full reading of this Myspace post. I can not even begin to say how creepy this is. Makes you kind of sick to know exactly why all of this happened. Words fail me.

[Fandy]

There is a lot of dirty laundry in this family. I feel that Cindy is a victim, but at the same time I think she is hiding a lot (which may or may not have bearing on the case). I think she has fear also. jmho

[olive]

I know and that's what I mean! What the heck was she up to all that time?

A lot of :Banane03: while :drink: and taking pictures of her :behind: and :rocker: before coming home and :puke: and then uploading it all :online:

[my2cents]

My confusion with Cindy is back to July 15th when she called 911 three times. Everyone knows the first two calls were calm. The third one, she mentions the dead body smell. Did she go out and smell the car between the second and third call? Why mention this in the third call? It's incredibly hard to believe that she made that discovery in the moments between the calls. When did she say she took the clothes out and washed them? She knew they smelled like the car, but only in a moment of panic does she think to tell someone the car smells.

I had a hard time with that too. Most normal people would have called the police and reported the smell immediately. But these are the Aliens, oops, Anthony's :rolleyes:

I'm with you this. Something is not right. You would think that she would have mentioned something about car stinking when she wanted to report it stolen. I know I would have.

[LI_Mom]

Another inconsistency is Cindy saying that there was never a need to ask Caylee or talk about the nanny Zani

Yeah right.... I suppose Cindy & Caylee were always so busy discussing politics, sports & religion Cindy never even had time to ask how she liked her nanny & what they did together.

What grandmother would think to ask her grandchild if she was happy with the 'stranger' who was taking care of her??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[EvaInCA]

if my daughter went missing for a month, I wouldn't have to worry about bonding out of jail. I would tell the judge NO BOND, because I'd be safer in jail.

My mom and dad would hang me out to dry THEMSELVES!

(Of course, take this lightly please!):woohoo:

[sweetwater]

Yeah right.... I suppose Cindy & Caylee were always so busy discussing politics, sports & religion Cindy never even had time to ask how she liked her nanny & what they did together.

What grandmother would think to ask her grandchild if she was happy with the 'stranger' who was taking care of her??? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Cindy didn't flip out until she had to pay the towing bill, in my eyes. That's when she managed to find Casey lickety-split.
How many hours after she got the death smell car, picking up Casey, driving around chatting it up in their best friend kind of way, did it occur to her to report Caylee's disappearance?
Lee is in many of the party photos; there is no way he couldn't have been enlisted to look for his sister and niece over the course of a month.

[TxRose]

My confusion with Cindy is back to July 15th when she called 911 three times. Everyone knows the first two calls were calm. The third one, she mentions the dead body smell. Did she go out and smell the car between the second and third call? Why mention this in the third call? It's incredibly hard to believe that she made that discovery in the moments between the calls. When did she say she took the clothes out and washed them? She knew they smelled like the car, but only in a moment of panic does she think to tell someone the car smells.

There are alot of facts and circumstances surrounding the events during these 911 calls that are being withheld by the Anthony's IMO. All of your questions are good ones. Where was George while all this was going on? Could he have gone to pick up the car while Cindy went to pick up Casey at Tony's house? Then perhaps she did smell the car after the first two calls. In the interview I found it odd that there was no mention of what George was doing - just Cindy, Lee and Casey.

The events are very weird and I am suspicious we are not getting an accurate picture of what happened after they found Casey. Remember how Cindy said Casey was crying on the floor while she admitted Caylee had been kidnapped...but then when Casey talked to the 911 operator just moments later, she was as cold as ice and totally monotone? I think Casey was cold from the moment Cindy found her...I doubt she ever showed any emotion about Caylee's disappearance. I bet she was pissed that she got pulled away from Tony.

[JimNJPA]

Something that strikes me everytime I see Cindy talking is how guilty she looks. I don't think she had anything to do with the disappearance or possible murder of Caylee but in my opinion she and the family are accomplices. They are covering up for Casey bigtime.
On the 911 calls, Cindy seems truly distraught. This is why I don't think that the family initially had anything to do with this situation. However, they all decided to cover for Casey and they all know that Caylee is not coming back.
Cindy just looks like she is lying everytime she talks. So does George. It's kinda hard to explain the look on their faces but I'm sure you know what I mean.

[TxRose]

Something that strikes me everytime I see Cindy talking is how guilty she looks. I don't think she had anything to do with the disappearance or possible murder of Caylee but in my opinion she and the family are accomplices. They are covering up for Casey bigtime.
On the 911 calls, Cindy seems truly distraught. This is why I don't think that the family initially had anything to do with this situation. However, they all decided to cover for Casey and they all know that Caylee is not coming back.
Cindy just looks like she is lying everytime she talks. So does George. It's kinda hard to explain the look on their faces but I'm sure you know what I mean.

I do! I agree with you that I don't think they had a clue that something had happened to Caylee. I think they love that grandbaby and truly are grieving. But I think they are also doing their best to cover for Casey - which is something I believe they have done all her life. I believe that is why Casey is the way she is. But you are right...Cindy looks down alot when she is talking, especially when she is being vague or saying something I personally feel is nonsense. George always just looks like he wishes Cindy would stop talking. LOL. To me - he looks like he is trying to believe Casey as best he can, but secretly is just having trouble buying it all. Cindy on the other hand just looks like her primary goal is defending her daughter's story (or lack thereof).

[JimNJPA]

I do! I agree with you that I don't think they had a clue that something had happened to Caylee. I think they love that grandbaby and truly are grieving. But I think they are also doing their best to cover for Casey - which is something I believe they have done all her life. I believe that is why Casey is the way she is. But you are right...Cindy looks down alot when she is talking, especially when she is being vague or saying something I personally feel is nonsense. George always just looks like he wishes Cindy would stop talking. LOL. To me - he looks like he is trying to believe Casey as best he can, but secretly is just having trouble buying it all. Cindy on the other hand just looks like her primary goal is defending her daughter's story (or lack thereof).

Yes! Cindy looks down a lot when she is talking and her facial expression does not match what she is saying. What I mean by that is that the words that come out of her mouth defend her daughter but her expressions betray her daughter's guilt. George has this look as well. Remember when he tried to say that those pictures of Casey whoring it up at Fusian were taking like 3 years ago? lol. I mean come on. Blatant lies.

[miss plum]

Is it possible that Casey's family are pretending to believe her in the hope that she will trust them and reveal what has happened to Caylee? Their volte-face is so dramatic it hardly seems credible. I wonder if they are being advised by pychologists on what to say to Casey and to the media, knowing Casey is watching and monitoring what they do and say and will punish them if they 'wrong' her. They do look guilty, but they also look sad and horrified. Maybe they seem guilty because they are finding it difficult to keep up an appearance of believing her. This is just a thought, I'm not committed to this theory, I'm just trying to figure out their baffling behavior.

[JimNJPA]

Interesting thoughts Miss Plum. One thought I had is that perhaps George was in on the disposal of the corpse. I said before that I didn't think Cindy was in on that due to her raw emotion on the 911 calls but since George has a Law Enforcement background, maybe he would have been the perfect accomplice for Casey to remove any evidence of a body.

[zadari]

Interesting thoughts Miss Plum. One thought I had is that perhaps George was in on the disposal of the corpse. I said before that I didn't think Cindy was in on that due to her raw emotion on the 911 calls but since George has a Law Enforcement background, maybe he would have been the perfect accomplice for Casey to remove any evidence of a body. he may have the backround but i just dont think he could do it .. i dont think either of the grandparents could they love that baby its apparent you can see it .. they may know what is going on i dont know if they do but i just cant see him doing away with his granddaughters body im sorry i just cant

[TxRose]

Me either. I would be shocked. George and Cindy may be covering some things, but I don't think they could do that after watching them all this time. This whole thing has really taken a toll on George - visually more than Cindy in my opinion. His emotion seems more raw...whereas Cindy just keeps getting in front of that camera....

[DAWN TREADER]

I do! I agree with you that I don't think they had a clue that something had happened to Caylee. I think they love that grandbaby and truly are grieving. But I think they are also doing their best to cover for Casey - which is something I believe they have done all her life. I believe that is why Casey is the way she is. But you are right...Cindy looks down alot when she is talking, especially when she is being vague or saying something I personally feel is nonsense. George always just looks like he wishes Cindy would stop talking. LOL. To me - he looks like he is trying to believe Casey as best he can, but secretly is just having trouble buying it all. Cindy on the other hand just looks like her primary goal is defending her daughter's story (or lack thereof).

Hi Tx Rose!

One thing that troubles me about the parents is the lack of any history of communication with Caylee's babysitter -- someone Casey claims to have left Caylee with many times before. Personally, I think the reason LE can't find her is because she simply does not exist. She's a make-believe persona. That's the only logical explanation I can come up with that could explain why neither Cindy nor George have any history of communication with this woman either in person or by telephone.

[Betty Boop]

he may have the backround but i just dont think he could do it .. i dont think either of the grandparents could they love that baby its apparent you can see it .. they may know what is going on i dont know if they do but i just cant see him doing away with his granddaughters body im sorry i just cant

Couldn't they have decided, though, once they had a chance to look at the facts, that there was nothing they could do to bring Caylee back. Then couldn't they have made a pact to put their grieving aside and focus on saving Casey from the death penalty? Cindy is an R.N.; George has LE background. Both are accustomed to putting emotion aside and looking at facts. Just a thought.

[zadari]

Couldn't they have decided, though, once they had a chance to look at the facts, that there was nothing they could do to bring Caylee back. Then couldn't they have made a pact to put their grieving aside and focus on saving Casey from the death penalty? Cindy is an R.N.; George has LE background. Both are accustomed to putting emotion aside and looking at facts. Just a thought. yeah they could have but something is telling me they really dont know what is going on .. they may suspect but they dont know .. they are scared .. and heartbroken and hopeful .. i just have these feelings that this is whats going on . and i dont know why

[TxRose]

Hi Tx Rose!

One thing that troubles me about the parents is the lack of any history of communication with Caylee's babysitter -- someone Casey claims to have left Caylee with many times before. Personally, I think the reason LE can't find her is because she simply does not exist. She's a make-believe persona. That's the only logical explanation I can come up with that could explain why neither Cindy nor George have any history of communication with this woman either in person or by telephone.

Hi Dawn Treader! LOL. I agree that it is suspicious that the parents don't know anything about the babysitter. That is compounded by the fact that none of her friends know anything either. Not one of them was ever with Casey when she dropped Caylee off or picked her up from the sitter? They didn't know her name or where she lived at the very least?

Now I will say that I had a one-day-a-week sitter that used to come to my house when my daughter was about Caylee's age. It was only one day, but it gave me a mother's day out! My parents never met this woman, nor did any of my friends. I doubt they talked to her either. The difference is that this woman came to my home and did not take my daughter out to all the places Casey claims ZG did. My parents would have been very nervous about some sitter taking their granddaughter to Disneyland, the beach, etc. (Of course I never would do that anyway.) If she had been doing that - you can bet that they would want to know more about her - and they would NOT like it one bit. But even though they never met this woman, they heard me talk about her all the time. They talked to my daughter about her too. But probably more importantly - I didn't have a history of lying! I was a responsible person, mother and wife...so trust wasn't an issue. Trust was CLEARLY an issue with the Anthony's - so why didn't they question Casey more about this sitter who had their granddaughter so much?

[JimNJPA]

he may have the backround but i just dont think he could do it .. i dont think either of the grandparents could they love that baby its apparent you can see it .. they may know what is going on i dont know if they do but i just cant see him doing away with his granddaughters body im sorry i just cant

In my opinion, the grandparents don't seem to be motivated by a love for Caylee but rather by covering for Casey like crazy. I think the vigils and the billboard trailer on the back of their PT Cruiser is a desperate attempt to convince the public/LE and themselves (enter the mental illness) that Caylee is still alive and Casey is innocent. This is a seriously messed up family, in my opinion. Pathetic.

[newuser]

I think we all see 'something' just isn't right with the grandparents. I don't really buy any of the big conspiracy theories, though. I don't think any of this clan is smart enough to put together this complicated string of lies and side-stepping questions ahead of time. No one could have predicted the national attention and all the media questions before the story broke. I think the whole scenario has exploded on all of them, and they just don't know what to do now.

[Blondieskatz]

My babystter had a list of emergency numbers, but I don;t think I gave my babysitter number out to anyone in particular. Probably careless of me, but didn't have a need.

What really freaks me out about this whole Zani Nanny thing is that she talked about her for so long. I mean what the he!! was she up to? Even if she was Xanax Nanny which makes sense to me, why was she implying there was any nanny? She must have been up to no good on a regular basis.

Well, I think the answer to that is she was "working", her parents were working, so someone had to be taking care of Caylee. In comes Zanny the Nanny. I just wonder if Caylee ever mentioned Zanny to Cindy. Did Cindy notice that Casey never had money?

[Boston]

Hi Tx Rose!

One thing that troubles me about the parents is the lack of any history of communication with Caylee's babysitter -- someone Casey claims to have left Caylee with many times before. Personally, I think the reason LE can't find her is because she simply does not exist. She's a make-believe persona. That's the only logical explanation I can come up with that could explain why neither Cindy nor George have any history of communication with this woman either in person or by telephone.

I agree 100%

According to Cindy, Casey was an over protective mom. She even kept an extra key in her pocket incase she was ever locked out. If thats the case then would'nt Casey insist on her mother having ZG's phone #? What if there was an emergency? What if Casey was in a car accident and in the hospitol? How would Cindy & George now who had Caylee & how to reach her?

[DAWN TREADER]

Thanks TX Rose and Boston - you both raise some very interesting issues I hadn't thought of. Something is definitly odd about a grandmother as vigilent as Cindy not having any contact with this babysitter in all the time she was taking care of Caylee. Not even a single phone call? Pffft that dog just don't hunt IMO.

[Shavaun]

Here' my take on Cindy (JMO). She has a daughter who has never lived up to her expectations - even the lower ones. She doesn't finish school (I think this is true), can't hold a job, gets pregnant and no father is around, lies, steals, and in her own words "has no future". But along comes a second chance - little Caylee. From at least Casey's perspective, as warped as it may be, her mom is controlling and probably handles most aspects of Caylee's life. Either forcefully, or more likely because Casey isn't doing the job and is too busy out partying. Casey resents it even though she probably doesn't want the responsibility anyway. Casey is very immature. She and her mother probably fight over the things she is and isn't doing right with respect to Caylee. Casey finally decides she has had enough and decides she is going to pack up and move out. She is resentful of her mother's attention towards her daughter, and tired of her mom picking on her about her responsibilities. She leaves and takes Caylee with her - probably to spite her mom.

Though "constantly in contact" - I would imagine Casey and her mom mostly talk by phone or by text once Casey leaves on the 9th. And I would guess many of those calls were arguements. Cindy starts to ask to see Caylee and Casey just makes excuses why she can't. Perhaps this even happened before something happened to Caylee. Grandma is upset with Casey, but doesn't report anything to the police because it probably doesn't enter her mind that Casey would harm her daughter. She keeps asking, but probably isn't panickingat that point.

She finds her daughter on the 15th. It has been a month of listening to Casey stall about letting her see Caylee and Cindy is now upset, frustrated and angry. She threatens to turn Casey in to police on theft charges if she doesn't produce Caylee right NOW. Casey finally admits she doesn't have Caylee and hasn't seen her for a month. Cindy is distraught, in shock, and upset with Casey that she didn't say anything before. She is probably also upset with herself that she didn't figure this out sooner. I imagine she blames herself for the delay in reporting the disappearance, but I believe she honestly thought Caylee was ok all that time. I think in all her shock and anger at Casey, she doesn't stop to think how she is incriminating her with her statements made to 911.

After things settle down, she starts to back pedal and tries to cover up the damage. Her anger has calmed and she is thinking less emotionally. She then starts to try and excuse Casey's behavior, explain factual inconsistencies, etc. in an attempt to cover up for ther daughter she knows is in trouble now. She has probably covered for Casey all her life. I don't think Cindy was involved in any way. I think she is trying to save both Caylee and Casey the best way she can. Sometimes that is with ridiculous excuses, but she is probably doing the best she can. She may be saying some goofy stuff to the press, but she seems to be coorperating with LE...and that is most important.

Ok sorry - long rant!

:clap: I agree. Most reasonable thing I have heard in a while.

[Love_Mama]

Yes! Cindy looks down a lot when she is talking and her facial expression does not match what she is saying. What I mean by that is that the words that come out of her mouth defend her daughter but her expressions betray her daughter's guilt. George has this look as well. Remember when he tried to say that those pictures of Casey whoring it up at Fusian were taking like 3 years ago? lol. I mean come on. Blatant lies.

I think Cindy on tranqulizers. Makes sense right?

xxxxxxxxxxoooooo
mama
:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

[Love_Mama]

Couldn't they have decided, though, once they had a chance to look at the facts, that there was nothing they could do to bring Caylee back. Then couldn't they have made a pact to put their grieving aside and focus on saving Casey from the death penalty? Cindy is an R.N.; George has LE background. Both are accustomed to putting emotion aside and looking at facts. Just a thought.

I looked up Georges LE experience.
He was what is called a 'donut' cop! or at least that mentality.

xxxxxxxxxooooooo
mama
:blowkiss::blowkiss:

[Love_Mama]

My babystter had a list of emergency numbers, but I don;t think I gave my babysitter number out to anyone in particular. Probably careless of me, but didn't have a need.

What really freaks me out about this whole Zani Nanny thing is that she talked about her for so long. I mean what the he!! was she up to? Even if she was Xanax Nanny which makes sense to me, why was she implying there was any nanny? She must have been up to no good on a regular basis.

I'm guessing it's already been established that a Zani or a nanny is the drug
Xanax.

For the management of anxiety disorders or for the short-term relief of the symptoms of anxiety)

Xanax 1mg 90 tabs = $29.95 (cheap) just need a fake script and buy over the internet.

I could probably to next door to our High School and find 15 kids who use them. Very popular today. Forget the old time stuff like weed, Herioin,
meth, coke...........Script's are the drug of choice today, period! Particularly at clubs and schools.

xxxxxxxxxxoo
mama
:blowkiss::blowkiss:

[JBean]

I'm guessing it's already been established that a Zani or a nanny is the drug
Xanax.

For the management of anxiety disorders or for the short-term relief of the symptoms of anxiety)

Xanax 1mg 90 tabs = $29.95 (cheap) just need a fake script and buy over the internet.

I could probably to next door to our High School and find 15 kids who use them. Very popular today. Forget the old time stuff like weed, Herioin,
meth, coke...........Script's are the drug of choice today, period! Particularly at clubs and schools.

xxxxxxxxxxoo
mama
:blowkiss::blowkiss:I need me some xanax right now mama.
How are you:blowkiss:

[Love_Mama]

There is a lot of dirty laundry in this family. I feel that Cindy is a victim, but at the same time I think she is hiding a lot (which may or may not have bearing on the case). I think she has fear also. jmho

Fandy, that's a perfect description of this family and poor little Caylee became 'baggage"..........it just make's me sick! :(:(

xxxxxxxxxxoooooo
mama
:blowkiss::blowkiss:

[Love_Mama]

I had a hard time with that too. Most normal people would have called the police and reported the smell immediately. But these are the Aliens, oops, Anthony's :rolleyes:

I'm with you this. Something is not right. You would think that she would have mentioned something about car stinking when she wanted to report it stolen. I know I would have.

Had to post this. the truth. About 4 weeks ago I left a whole lot of groceries I had bought at the Super. Too many people at my house, I left a lot of things in the Trunk. One thing was a fresh Chicken. Oh my GOD..........it started smelling pretty fast and I didn't know what the heck it was. FINALLY DUMB ME........look in the trunk and I almost threw up. Now everyone here has at one time bought a chicken that's bad. It really smells, but I don't think it would smell any worse than a body. I'm actually having my car detailed now. GAG!
There was no pizza left in the car that left the smell of a dead person.

xxxxxxxooooooo
mama:blowkiss::blowkiss:

[JimNJPA]

I think Cindy on tranqulizers. Makes sense right?

xxxxxxxxxxoooooo
mama
:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

yes! or maybe she's on anti-depression meds due to her failed marriage, financial situation, and whorish daughter.

[AlwaysShocked]

Yes, chicken that has spoiled really smells BAD - but, it is not the same bad smell as a human body decomposing. Distinctly different.

[Love_Mama]

I need me some xanax right now mama.
How are you:blowkiss:

I'm doing just fine Bean. I'm high on steroids so feeling great. hehehehhe
Having more chemo and radiation but no big deal so far. I should lose all my hair again in about 3 more day's.......well, it needed triming.

I am going to survive! :woohoo::woohoo:
How's the family.........mama?

Sorry folks for taking over the thread!

xxxxxoooooooo
mama
:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

[NighTillDawn]

On the first of the 911 calls, Cindy says:

Cindy Anthony: My next thing will be child's thing and we'll have a court order to get her if thats what you wanna play. We'll do it and you'll never...

( I think Cindy was gonna end it with...We'll do it and you'll see never... SEE HER AGAIN...meaning Caylee. )

{Casey inaudibly talking}

( I believe I heard Casey say : GIVE ME ANOTHER DAY )

Cindy Anthony: Well then you have...no I'm not giving you another day. I've given you a month.

Now, if Cindy has given Casey a month already... what did she mean by that statement? A month to get Caylee back? Then why on the third 911 phone was Cindy in hysteric's after only finding out that Caylee was missing then when Cindy had already called 911 two times previous, and mentioned the car being stolen, grand theft auto, and money being stolen. Caylee being missing came in later, almost as an after thought. Then in the third 911 call, you hear Cindy in hysterics. Strange observation don't you say?

:praying: for Caylee

[MommaD]

I agree with Geraldo (not that I want to!) - Cindy's last truths were in those 911 phone calls.

I so agree Eliza.. and not only the last but probably the only truths .. jmo

[dewshoney]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I am fairly new to the board...Something that I just realized. When they DO find the poor little thing's body, I have PROOF of complicity after the fact with Cindy...remember when Casey said that she received a call from Zanny the Nanny on the day that Cindy called 911 and the police records showed that there were no calls that day? Cindy Anthony swore that there were and that she HEARD Caylee on the phone herself....Now if it comes down to a conviction of Casey and proof that there was no Zanny, hence no phone call, doesn't that PROVE Cindy's involvement and lying to investigators? I hope they lock them all up and throw away the key....I also think that the brother has realized that his family is just too sick for words and knows what happened to little Caylee and that is why he has went awol....washed his hands of them. What does anyone else out there think?:furious:

[JustMy2Cents]

She FOR SURE has obstructed this investigation. The whole family makes me sick.

[SailorMoon]

Lee seems to be the only sane one there...but after listening to him on 20/20...he's sucked into it as well. Can you imagine what their friends and family...wait..where is any other family?? No aunts, uncles, cousins...no one??

[Lexington]

Lee is still fully in the picture. He was at the Anthonys as late as yesterday when Casey was released. Everyone thinks that he is okay, I personally think that he is one strange dude. I wouldn't be surprised if he were the brains behind the operation.

[JBean]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I am fairly new to the board...Something that I just realized. When they DO find the poor little thing's body, I have PROOF of complicity after the fact with Cindy...remember when Casey said that she received a call from Zanny the Nanny on the day that Cindy called 911 and the police records showed that there were no calls that day? Cindy Anthony swore that there were and that she HEARD Caylee on the phone herself....Now if it comes down to a conviction of Casey and proof that there was no Zanny, hence no phone call, doesn't that PROVE Cindy's involvement and lying to investigators? I hope they lock them all up and throw away the key....I also think that the brother has realized that his family is just too sick for words and knows what happened to little Caylee and that is why he has went awol....washed his hands of them. What does anyone else out there think?:furious:
I didn't realize Cindy said she heard Caylee on the phone on the 15th. I'll have to go re read that. Is that in the 400?

[monoxide]

She washed clothes because they smelled like a corpse. The 911 is gonna play a major factor imo. If she lies in court she will go straight to jail. She cannot lie and deny in court

[DazzlinDebSD]

I didn't realize Cindy said she heard Caylee on the phone on the 15th. I'll have to go re read that. Is that in the 400?

Cindy never said that. She's said a lot, but not that. Lee has been to the house atleast three times this week that I know of. Poster, this information is incorrect.

[susan1215]

I think the whole family is covering up something about the case. That's why they got an attorney.

[Patty G]

There is another thread on Cindy's Lies and Discrepancies.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2630528#post2630528

Cindy never said she heard Caylee on the phone. Cindy didn't find Casey on July 15th until much later in the day.

What Cindy said at the "bond hearing" was Cindy's mother heard Caylee in the background when Cindy's mother was talking to Casey. I don't recall a date for that particular phone call, if there was a phone call.

[monoxide]

Lee Anthony Private Investigative Services.......He is in on it as well. I got a feeling he is the one that faked the emails and gave them to law enforcement.

[Cagney]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but I am fairly new to the board...Something that I just realized. When they DO find the poor little thing's body, I have PROOF of complicity after the fact with Cindy...remember when Casey said that she received a call from Zanny the Nanny on the day that Cindy called 911 and the police records showed that there were no calls that day? Cindy Anthony swore that there were and that she HEARD Caylee on the phone herself....Now if it comes down to a conviction of Casey and proof that there was no Zanny, hence no phone call, doesn't that PROVE Cindy's involvement and lying to investigators? I hope they lock them all up and throw away the key....I also think that the brother has realized that his family is just too sick for words and knows what happened to little Caylee and that is why he has went awol....washed his hands of them. What does anyone else out there think?:furious:

If they wanted to get her on some kind of hindering justice charge, they could have already done it when she washed the pants and knife I would think.
Granted, there wasn't an invesitagtion going on AT THAT MOMENT but she knew it was coming. And this was moments after she said on the 911 call about the smell.

[Lexington]

I didn't realize Cindy said she heard Caylee on the phone on the 15th. I'll have to go re read that. Is that in the 400?

I don't think it was in the 400 pages, but it might have been. I did hear her say it though, early on, on TV.

[TKS2003]

As time goes by all Cindy will be caught up in ALL her lies....and I say let her keep running her mouth on TV, cause I cant wait to see her exposed on the witness stand.
I cant believe that atty they have hasnt muzzled her, she is her own worst enemy. Everything she is saying in interviews can and will be used in court when the trial arrives. Yes, I am being presumptuous saying there will be a trial, and I am not talking a trial just for child neglect and check fraud.....it's all catching up to them. LE is playing it just right---not quick enough for my taste, but I have mucho confidence in them...

[Patty G]

bumping up

[JBean]

I don't think it was in the 400 pages, but it might have been. I did hear her say it though, early on, on TV.do we have a link to that statement?
Since it is the basis of the thread ther really should be one. I have never heard this.

[JBean]

There is another thread on Cindy's Lies and Discrepancies.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2630528#post2630528

Cindy never said she heard Caylee on the phone. Cindy didn't find Casey on July 15th until much later in the day.

What Cindy said at the "bond hearing" was Cindy's mother heard Caylee in the background when Cindy's mother was talking to Casey. I don't recall a date for that particular phone call, if there was a phone call.
I sent in a request to merge.
thanks for that info Patty.

[tehcloser]

Threads like this are where rumors are formed and then turned into fact. Had Cindy ever even came close to saying this it would have been front page news.

[tabbykiki]

... call from Zanny the Nanny on the day that Cindy called 911 and the police records showed that there were no calls that day?...

I believe in the 400+ page document it states there were calls that day, but NONE at noon or even within an hour and a half of the time Casey states the call came in. Casey also states that it was from a "private" number. No calls were received by a private number into her cell phone that day. I just want to make sure people understand that. I heard it reported incorrectly on one of the talk shows the other day too. I'd tend to believe LE before I'd ever believe CA. She's covering for her child. I doubt LE will ever charge her though unfortunately.

[Patty G]

do we have a link to that statement?
Since it is the basis of the thread ther really should be one. I have never heard this.

I believe Cindy stated at the bond hearing about Cindy's mother hearing Caylee in the background while Cindy's mother was on the phone with Casey. But I don't know if a date of this "phone call" was ever mentioned.

We have a link to the bond hearing either in the documents forum or the media forum.

I don't believe it is in the 400 page document at all, but it might be in one of the taped interviews LE did and not released.

[Patty G]

I sent in a request to merge.
thanks for that info Patty.

I did too and your welcome.

[tabbykiki]

Lee is still fully in the picture. He was at the Anthonys as late as yesterday when Casey was released. Everyone thinks that he is okay, I personally think that he is one strange dude. I wouldn't be surprised if he were the brains behind the operation.

Yep I agree 100%. Especially after those strange jail house calls. He actually sounded like he and KC were talking in code. Somethings not right there with that relationship.

[JBean]

Cindy never said that. She's said a lot, but not that. Lee has been to the house atleast three times this week that I know of. Poster, this information is incorrect. Thanks. I could not figure out how I missed something so huge.:)

[Tuba]

She washed clothes because they smelled like a corpse. The 911 is gonna play a major factor imo. If she lies in court she will go straight to jail. She cannot lie and deny in court

From what I have seen of her testimony, Cindy bites her tongue & refrains from finishing what she starts to say, she evades and equivocates. Overall, she conveys only non-information and seems to be suppressing all sorts of details. She appears to not only talk this way but think this way, which must bolster her state of denial.

[monoxide]

One of the things that has always bothered me is how Cindy always went on about the pizza, being the reason for the strong odor in Caseys trunk. She never even saw the pizza as far as the discovery docs. say George and the towing place owner opened the trunk and smelled the odor and found the bag of pizza, papers etc. and threw it in the dumpster. LE later went back and got the bag of trash.

Cindy....later in the car, maybe George told her about the trash and maggots, but still later after picking up the car she then gives her statement about it smelling like a dead body.

Then Cindy later on Greta I believe states that we gave LE the bag of trash from the trunk. Incorrect, unless Cindy went back and picked it up from the tow yard and kept it to give it to LE, LE recovered the trash themselves from the tow yard dumpster, either from speaking to George or the tow place.

Cindy never smelled or saw the pizza and maggots from the bag. She when making a statement said dead body.....which later became pizza, but she never smelled the bag.

This is true. I remember reading in the 400 page docs Cindy stayed behind to complain about the cost of the bill. George