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Leila
08-01-2008, 08:01 PM
Nancy Grace is on. She's covering the day's events, including the CSI at the Anthony home this morning.

Elphaba
08-01-2008, 08:05 PM
Thanks Leila... not having cable, I have to rely on yall to keep me informed... it's much appreciated!

Leila
08-01-2008, 08:07 PM
CSI team went immediately to the shed in the backyard of the Anthony home. The items including clothing. Both George and Cindy were questioned separately today by the sheriff. Casey is still not talking. The 33 day rule is in effect, and if the state doesn't file charges in 17 days, she could walk free...........which is what Shepard Smith alluded to earlier today.

LI_Mom
08-01-2008, 08:14 PM
CSI team went immediately to the shed in the backyard of the Anthony home. The items including clothing. Both George and Cindy were questioned separately today by the sheriff. Casey is still not talking. The 33 day rule is in effect, and if the state doesn't file charges in 17 days, she could walk free...........which is what Shepard Smith alluded to earlier today.

Do they know for a FACT they collected clothes or is this more speculation?

my2cents
08-01-2008, 08:17 PM
CSI team went immediately to the shed in the backyard of the Anthony home. The items including clothing. Both George and Cindy were questioned separately today by the sheriff. Casey is still not talking. The 33 day rule is in effect, and if the state doesn't file charges in 17 days, she could walk free...........which is what Shepard Smith alluded to earlier today.

Thanks for the updates. I am in class, so I am missing the show, but it's nice that you are updating so I don't miss anything. Thanks! :)

Leila
08-01-2008, 08:17 PM
Very interesting observation (but it was noted here first) that Casey never uses Caylee's name.......calls her "she." That's usually used by someone being deceptive.

Talking now about the abandoned car, and the fact that Tony picked Casey up after she told him she had run out of gas.

If charges are filed, Casey will have to make a new bond, but they'll likely keep the $500,000 bond as it's high.

Lawyer Peter Oats, said that if there's no body, and forensic results show Caylee was dead in the trunk, they can't file murder charges as it could have been accidental.

Lawrence Coblinsky, medical examiner - if proven that Caylee was deceased in the trunk you could get a conviction. A post mortem strand of hand has a dark band between the shaft and nueclus (sp), and that forms within hours of death.

Commercial break...............................

Leila
08-01-2008, 08:18 PM
Do they know for a FACT they collected clothes or is this more speculation?

It was stated as fact by the Orlando reporter that Nancy Grace has had on her program.

passin_through
08-01-2008, 08:21 PM
I've never heard of the post mortem hair banding thing, that's very interesting!

Amster
08-01-2008, 08:21 PM
Of course they can file murder charges! Silly Peter Oats.....

Leila
08-01-2008, 08:24 PM
Clinical psychologist..............Casey not talking is not normal. We're dealing is a dis-associative disorder.

Another commercial.................

Leila
08-01-2008, 08:29 PM
Evidence...............likely have subpoenaed phone records of the Anthony's, as Casey lived with her parents.

A caller asked if phone records had been subpoenaed as they would show if the babysitter, Zenaida, was ever contacted by a land line from the Anthony home.

Another commercial!

LI_Mom
08-01-2008, 08:32 PM
It was stated as fact by the Orlando reporter that Nancy Grace has had on her program.

Ok, thanks.

Remember, a reporter doesn't always report accurate 'facts.' I think he's speculating.

At the press conference, I'm pretty sure the police refused to disclose exactly what was taken.

strach304
08-01-2008, 08:36 PM
I've never heard of the post mortem hair banding thing, that's very interesting!


I found out about that from Dr. Baden during the McCann case. He said it could be put under a microscope and you'd know immediately. Now checking the hair for drugs and things of that nature are much more involved taking a long time for the results.:)

Leila
08-01-2008, 08:40 PM
Pizza experiment...........showing video of the local Orlando news media who took the challange........showing the pizza. No smell and the consistency of shoe leather.

Back to the CSI evidence..........all items taken from shed. The Anthonys, George and Cindy were interviewed first today at headquarters, and THEN the CSI team came to the home with George Anthony leading them.

Gloria Allred.............notes that Casey has been inconsistent regarding the phone calls........saying the call she received on July 15th was disconnected - out-of-service, and later said it was a private number (blocked). Talking now about using star 69 and a blocked number you can't use star 69.

If a body isn't found, depending on the forensic evidence, will determine what sort of charges can be filed.

Caller asked if a polygraph has been taken, and one of the attorney's said she did initially volunteer. That idea has now been dropped.

Commercial.................

Leila
08-01-2008, 08:42 PM
I found out about that from Dr. Baden during the McCann case. He said it could be put under a microscope and you'd know immediately. Now checking the hair for drugs and things of that nature are much more involved taking a long time for the results.:)

Dr. Baden is an excellent source!

SouthernMom
08-01-2008, 08:42 PM
Clinical psychologist..............Casey not talking is not normal. We're dealing is a dis-associative disorder.

Another commercial.................

I was starting to think Disassociative Identity Disorder (also called Multiple Personality Disorder) or something in that group could be what's going on with Casey.

There was a young man with that disorder in my town who set his house on fire with his infant son inside and went outside to clean the car. He tried to save the baby (too late of course) and they had enough evidence to charge him about a month later. He was charged with another murder while still in jail on the charges of murdering his son.

Leila
08-01-2008, 08:51 PM
Nancy stating that no one has ever met Zenaida.

Phone time........depends on the jurisdiction. Casey's visitor log has a lot of attorneys.

Cadaver dogs............dog only used outside the Anthony home, not inside the house.

What was the shed that CSI took.............clothing and personal items according to Orlando reporter.

Dr. Lawrence Koblininsky - probably looking for skin cells in clothing for DNA analysis - he called it "touch DNA", and it would be used to compare with Caylee's DNA. He thinks the stain in the trunk is probably biological.

Commercial

Leila
08-01-2008, 08:53 PM
I was starting to think Disassociative Identity Disorder (also called Multiple Personality Disorder) or something in that group could be what's going on with Casey.

There was a young man with that disorder in my town who set his house on fire with his infant son inside and went outside to clean the car. He tried to save the baby (too late of course) and they had enough evidence to charge him about a month later. He was charged with another murder while still in jail on the charges of murdering his son.

Yikes! That was a terrible case. We need to look up what is says about this disorder.

SouthernMom
08-01-2008, 09:05 PM
Yikes! That was a terrible case. We need to look up what is says about this disorder.

Part of what I read mentioned it being brought on by some type of trauma such as a sexual abuse. This is pure speculation , but it could be that Casey was a victim of a sex crime involving a stranger and was severely traumatized by the event. She made up the story about the bio-dad's death in a car accident so that She wouldn't have to remember and Caylee would never know the truth.

brighidin
08-01-2008, 10:49 PM
So one caller asked why a compoiste sketch hasn't been made of the babysitter. Apparently one HAS been done and it saw "limited release"

I haven't seen it on the board, unless I'm missing something. has anyone else seen it?

Nedthan Johns
08-02-2008, 01:04 AM
The following is from Wikipedia
Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), as defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a condition in which a single person displays multiple distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment.[1] The diagnosis requires that at least two personalities routinely take control of the individual's behavior with an associated memory loss that goes beyond normal forgetfulness; in addition, symptoms cannot be due to substance abuse or medical condition. Earlier versions of the DSM named the condition multiple personality disorder (MPD), and the term is still used by the ICD-10. There is controversy around the existence, the possible causes, the prevalence across cultures, and the epidemiology of the condition.

[edit] Signs and symptoms
Individuals with DID demonstrate a variety of symptoms with wide fluctuations across time; functioning can vary from severe impairment in daily functioning to normal or high abilities. Symptoms can include:[16]

multiple mannerisms, attitudes and beliefs that are dissimilar to each other
headaches and other body pains
distortion or loss of subjective time
depersonalization
amnesia
depression
Patients may experience an extremely narrow array of other symptoms that resemble epilepsy, schizophrenia, anxiety, Mood disorders, posttraumatic stress, personality, and eating disorders.[16]


[edit] Causes

Blue_Dolphin308
08-02-2008, 01:15 AM
The following is from Wikipedia
Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), as defined by the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM), is a psychiatric diagnosis that describes a condition in which a single person displays multiple distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment.[1] The diagnosis requires that at least two personalities routinely take control of the individual's behavior with an associated memory loss that goes beyond normal forgetfulness; in addition, symptoms cannot be due to substance abuse or medical condition. Earlier versions of the DSM named the condition multiple personality disorder (MPD), and the term is still used by the ICD-10. There is controversy around the existence, the possible causes, the prevalence across cultures, and the epidemiology of the condition.

[edit] Signs and symptoms
Individuals with DID demonstrate a variety of symptoms with wide fluctuations across time; functioning can vary from severe impairment in daily functioning to normal or high abilities. Symptoms can include:[16]

multiple mannerisms, attitudes and beliefs that are dissimilar to each other
headaches and other body pains
distortion or loss of subjective time
depersonalization
amnesia
depression
Patients may experience an extremely narrow array of other symptoms that resemble epilepsy, schizophrenia, anxiety, Mood disorders, posttraumatic stress, personality, and eating disorders.[16]


[edit] Causes


She definitly does not have DID. As I have DID, and its not even close to what she is portraying.

Blue_Dolphin308
08-02-2008, 01:16 AM
Yikes! That was a terrible case. We need to look up what is says about this disorder.


What do you need to know about DID. I am diagnosed with it and live with it daily.

Nedthan Johns
08-02-2008, 01:59 AM
I tend to think she has Boarderline Personality Disorder, possible Bipolar Personality Disorder, but certainly Socoipathic.