View Full Version : Desdemona's info./Society Entertainment/Zanaida
olive
08-02-2008, 02:02 PM
I am starting a thread for the information uncovered by someone who could not get registered at Websleuths, so she had contact over myspace with a few of our sleuthers to offer up the research she uncovered. She goes by the name "Desdemona".
Her research is quite good and I feel it needs sleuthed further and in more detail. Here goes:
Just a Theory I received from someone unable to register here at WS, so please know this is NOT my theory but thought it was interesting..... She sent it to my mail on my own myspace page.
Subject:
Caylee Marie Anthony Case --- Websleuths
Body:
Hi Cindy --
I can't register at Websleuths b/c of my email account (gmail; not accepted).
I located your myspace through Google, using your nick at Websleuths (where I've lurked for a long time now), since it sounded like a real name, and since I like your posts.
I have not seen anyone make the connection that I have made. (though it's hard to keep up with the thread!!)
It has to do with the only Zanaida Gonzalez (with an "a", not an "e") listed in WhitePages. com (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vV2hpdGVQYWdlcy5jb20=) **for the entire U.S.A.** -- show is in Kissimmee, FL, just south of Orlando.
Her address is 1817 Catawba Circle in Kissimmee.
Barely two miles west from her address, straight down Hwy 192, is the entrance to the new and still under construction Resort called "La Bella Vida."
Satellite views of this property show it would be an ideal place to dispose of a body, with undeveloped areas, wooded areas, and water. And it looks like a pretty place.
Today I saw the stories and posts about the mystery of Jose Baez having been chosen to represent Casey, and who is paying for his services.
I looked him up on WhitePages, too. His home (on Abby Drive in Kissimmee) is approximately two miles from the address of Zanaida-with-an-a (the only one listed in the U.S.) ...
and approximately two miles from the new La Bella Vida resort property.
I have screenshots of maps and routes if anyone is interested. I could email them to you.
Sorry for being so out of the blue, but I wanted someone to see this.
her name for her myspace is ...Desdemona (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=399664945)
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I emailed the myspace person that had the theory last night. She is all over this case! I thought you guys may like to see her response. I offered to create an email acct for her so that she could post (as she cannot register) but she doesn't want to get too tied up with posting.
Anyway, here is her response, in part. Might be worth you guys checking into.
I do have a few other thoughts.
One is about "Society Entertainment" -- a company like so many others that seem to be connected to this case: connected to the club scene, the music scene, DJ's, sexy girls, alcohol/drugs. It is run by a guy named Derrick Williams. If you look at his myspace and/or Society Entertainment's website, you will see how similar it is to some of the others. And he has a few myspace "friends" in common with others we've looked at in this case.
Well, this one is particularly interesting to me, because on WhitePages. com, the business address for "Society Entertainment" is AT THE SAWGRASS APARTMENTS.
Look up Derrick Williams on WhitePages. com, and you will see what I mean.
I did send in this tip to the OCSO.
~Desdemona~
CASuzk
08-02-2008, 02:47 PM
Wow, she may be on to something here.
olive
08-02-2008, 03:54 PM
I find it quite odd that are a lot of connections to Kissimmee. I'm really horrible at maps and google earth, so if someone here could try to map out the following locations, I'd be very grateful. Let's map these out:
BRUCE T LAM
2335 HIDDEN LAKE ST
KISSIMMEE, FL 34741
ZANAIDA GONZALEZ
1817 CATAWBA CIRCLE
KISSIMMEE, FL 34741
JOSE BAEZ
2409 ABBEY DRIVE
KISSIMMEE, FL 34741
I want to clarify that the addresses above came from two different sources- the first from http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68364&page=2 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68364&page=2) and the last two from the above posting.
I don't know if that Jose Baez is THE Jose Baez. Desdemona did not say why she thought that- maybe someone can contact her on myspace and ask. The Jose Baez white pages listing where the address came from can be found here: http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=JOSE&name=BAEZ&street=&city_zip=kissimmee&state_id=FL&localtime=survey (http://www.whitepages.com/search/FindPerson?extra_listing=mixed&form_mode=opt_b&post_back=1&firstname_begins_with=1&firstname=JOSE&name=BAEZ&street=&city_zip=kissimmee&state_id=FL&localtime=survey)
I have to go, but perhaps someone can do some more investigation to clear up those names/addresses and any links?
The above is from the Fusian thread, but it also applies here.
pixies
08-02-2008, 04:37 PM
I posted this on another Caylee forum but this is some options if the nanny is real and not some lie Casey made up.
1: She may only speak Spanish. She would not be watching the news or listening to the radio. She would be listening to the spanish channels and as far as I have heard, there has been no talk of Caylee.
2: If she is an illegal alien, no way in heck is she going to come forward.
3: Univision has had nothing on their newscast related to Caylee that I have seen. It seems Univision should be all over this since a Hispanic nanny has been blamed for kidnapping.
I contacted Univision last week and I have heard NOTHING back from them. I have not watched the news over the weekend yet though.
Anyone else who can contact Univision please do so. English is totally OK when contacting them.
curiositycat
08-02-2008, 04:52 PM
I truly wish more folks would take this thread seriously. If this is true it should be investigated.
I have two concerns however. Who is the woman and why doesn't she want to come on WS's herself. I don't buy her excuses.
It also sounds like this woman is actually someone who has been burned by someone of these people and is anxious to tell all she knows about them..OR she is pulling our strings by proxy.
LI_Mom
08-02-2008, 04:57 PM
I posted this on another Caylee forum but this is some options if the nanny is real and not some lie Casey made up.
1: She may only speak Spanish. She would not be watching the news or listening to the radio. She would be listening to the spanish channels and as far as I have heard, there has been no talk of Caylee.
2: If she is an illegal alien, no way in heck is she going to come forward.
3: Univision has had nothing on their newscast related to Caylee that I have seen. It seems Univision should be all over this since a Hispanic nanny has been blamed for kidnapping.
I contacted Univision last week and I have heard NOTHING back from them. I have not watched the news over the weekend yet though.
Anyone else who can contact Univision please do so. English is totally OK when contacting them.
But we still go back to what Casey told LE:
Nanny is about 26 years old. She knows her from the club scene.
But has NO phone number.... good OR bad that traces to Zanny.
But has NO address... even if she skipped town, a neighbor would verify that Zanny lived there until she suddenly disappeared one night.
NOBODY at the clubs OR any friends or family members ever spoke to or met or saw this person. NOBODY ever mentions Caylee talking about the times she spent with Zanny.
sugarbritches
08-02-2008, 05:57 PM
I buy her excuses since it took me a looooong time to register. I had to contact admin since it rejects yahoo and gmail accounts. She said she had lurked here for a while, which I did the same. I believe her and I definitely think she is onto something. Maybe she is trying to reach out to someone besides LE so it will be heard BEFORE making it totally public. I think it would not be doing Caylee any favors by not believing it. We're not here to say who is yanking our chain. We are here for Caylee. Bouncing ideas as to where that poor baby is. I say get it investigated Desmona! JMO.
my2cents
08-02-2008, 06:05 PM
I buy her excuses since it took me a looooong time to register. I had to contact admin since it rejects yahoo and gmail accounts. She said she had lurked here for a while, which I did the same. I believe her and I definitely think she is onto something. Maybe she is trying to reach out to someone besides LE so it will be heard BEFORE making it totally public. I think it would not be doing Caylee any favors by not believing it. We're not here to say who is yanking our chain. We are here for Caylee. Bouncing ideas as to where that poor baby is. I say get it investigated Desmona! JMO.
Yeah, she has ALOT of good ideas. She is very open to communicating with WS's too. I offered to set her up an account on my email so she could post. I think she would contribute some really great ideas here, but she says that she has already gotten side tracked enough by this case and knows that if she could post, it would create more of a distraction...
Don't we all know that is the truth, lol. :)
auntbaby
08-02-2008, 07:21 PM
I have tried to find where it states (IF it states) how long this Zanaida F-G sat for little Caylee? For how many years? At what age was Caylee when this ZFG started supposedly sitting for her? I seem to remember the family saying that Zanny had sat for Casey many many times.
For if this woman does not exist (and I like most think that she does not) then Casey's manner of possibly "stowing" this poor babe away while she partied may have started long ago. (It has been suggested by many here that she perhaps drugged little Caylee with Xanax or other substances and placed her in the trunk or elsewhere while she partied).
I know that this knowledge will do nothing to further the discussion of this case , but it surely points to Caseys mental state for much of Caylee's life and belies that it is a sudden or abrupt change in only the last few weeks.
pixies
08-02-2008, 08:02 PM
But we still go back to what Casey told LE:
Nanny is about 26 years old. She knows her from the club scene.
But has NO phone number.... good OR bad that traces to Zanny.
But has NO address... even if she skipped town, a neighbor would verify that Zanny lived there until she suddenly disappeared one night.
NOBODY at the clubs OR any friends or family members ever spoke to or met or saw this person. NOBODY ever mentions Caylee talking about the times she spent with Zanny.
My friend, I think Casey is sooo full of crap. I think she killed Caylee and grandma is covering up for her demon daughter. From the start I disliked the Anthonys. I have no respect for them at all.
I just do not want to take a chance (however remote or slim) that Caylee is out there. I pray to GOD she is safe and being loved but how this so called "Mother" has acted since the dissapperance of her child, I think she is buried somewhere.
RebeccaAdrianne
08-02-2008, 08:49 PM
Here is Derrick Williams myspace - http://www.myspace.com/casanovawilliams
I am checking out a few other things, some raises an eyebrow. Will find out more.
olive
08-03-2008, 01:46 AM
But we still go back to what Casey told LE:
Nanny is about 26 years old. She knows her from the club scene.
But has NO phone number.... good OR bad that traces to Zanny.
But has NO address... even if she skipped town, a neighbor would verify that Zanny lived there until she suddenly disappeared one night.
NOBODY at the clubs OR any friends or family members ever spoke to or met or saw this person. NOBODY ever mentions Caylee talking about the times she spent with Zanny.
I get what you're saying. I think everyone knows Casey is lying. But the question still left is, why? and how much? Which are the lies? Which are half-truths? Are there clues in the lies?
Giving the GM benefit of the doubt, what is the "code" Casey is supposedly speaking in?
I agree it is doubtful there is any code, but can we really afford to not check just because we have theories and suspicions?
olive
08-23-2008, 05:45 PM
Desdemona has been blogging and sleuthing now on her myspace at http://www.myspace.com/desdemonamontague
She is a fantastic sleuther. She has blogs set up with great information and the timeline on her profile page is excellent! There is some discrepancies with George's report of the gas cans. Check it out.
And desdemona, if you are reading this, please join Websleuths. We could use you here!
100%Agave
08-23-2008, 06:06 PM
I remember the name Desdemona from another forum that I used to post to a long time ago, it might have been the old CNN site.
Don't know if this is the same person or not but just some food for thought.
100%Agave
08-23-2008, 06:08 PM
I have tried to find where it states (IF it states) how long this Zanaida F-G sat for little Caylee? For how many years? At what age was Caylee when this ZFG started supposedly sitting for her? I seem to remember the family saying that Zanny had sat for Casey many many times.
For if this woman does not exist (and I like most think that she does not) then Casey's manner of possibly "stowing" this poor babe away while she partied may have started long ago. (It has been suggested by many here that she perhaps drugged little Caylee with Xanax or other substances and placed her in the trunk or elsewhere while she partied).
I know that this knowledge will do nothing to further the discussion of this case , but it surely points to Caseys mental state for much of Caylee's life and belies that it is a sudden or abrupt change in only the last few weeks.
I am pretty sure that it was over a year and I am thinking it was closer to 2 years. There was mention of how long in a report awhile back. I am sorry but I don't remember exactly when or where I saw it.
TripleA
08-23-2008, 06:15 PM
She has a note on her timeline stating that a neighbor (of Jesse?) says that Casey spent the weekend there at Jesse's place.
I have never heard this before now. Does anyone have confirmation on this little gem?
Is this strange ---
The "Bella Vida" / Beautiful Life tattoo was done after Caylee's disappearance.
Derrick Williams
work
2863 S Conway Rd - Saw Grass Apartments (SawGrass adddres is 2859)
Orlando, FL 32812-5987
(407) 306-0855
Listing Details
Job title: unavailable
Company: Society Entertainment
EvaInCA
08-23-2008, 06:28 PM
For what it's worth, I have Desdemona's myspace bookmarked and have visited often. She has put in some time and thought into this as have we, and I have to respect that. She's got some valid points to consider and if LE is doing what they can and exploring every possibility then it should be considered.
What if Desdemona or one of our theories made sense and we were cops or investigators? Would the fact that our JOB was to research into this make it any MORE a valid theory than a civilian? I don't think so.
I only have one problem with the Zanaida/Zenaida theory. I know a lot of Mexican nationals that babysit, or care for children/housekeeper type and pretty much they all have in common is the fact that they are doing it in the parents' house. They either stay with them or they are there until a certain time and then they go home. Spanish speaking only too. But I live in San Diego, 10 minutes from the border to Tijuana, and coming IN to US to work and then going OUT to Tijuas (Tijuana) or Otay is a way of life. I don't know chit about Florida or how it goes over there.
I going to post in another thread more about my thoughts but since this is about Desdemona's I don't want to get off topic.
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olive
08-23-2008, 06:41 PM
Can someone who has a myspace "befriend" desdemona and send her a pm asking where she heard the part about Jesse's neighbor saying that he spent the weekend with Casey?
Ladytazz
08-23-2008, 06:41 PM
I have tried to find where it states (IF it states) how long this Zanaida F-G sat for little Caylee? For how many years? At what age was Caylee when this ZFG started supposedly sitting for her? I seem to remember the family saying that Zanny had sat for Casey many many times.
For if this woman does not exist (and I like most think that she does not) then Casey's manner of possibly "stowing" this poor babe away while she partied may have started long ago. (It has been suggested by many here that she perhaps drugged little Caylee with Xanax or other substances and placed her in the trunk or elsewhere while she partied).
I know that this knowledge will do nothing to further the discussion of this case , but it surely points to Caseys mental state for much of Caylee's life and belies that it is a sudden or abrupt change in only the last few weeks.
I believe I read that she knew her for 4 years and she baby sat for 1 1/2 years.
wallflower67
08-23-2008, 06:44 PM
the bella vida tip scares me, esp if Casey go the tatoo after she may have disposed of the body
CHICANA
08-23-2008, 07:15 PM
For what it's worth, I have Desdemona's myspace bookmarked and have visited often. She has put in some time and thought into this as have we, and I have to respect that. She's got some valid points to consider and if LE is doing what they can and exploring every possibility then it should be considered.
What if Desdemona or one of our theories made sense and we were cops or investigators? Would the fact that our JOB was to research into this make it any MORE a valid theory than a civilian? I don't think so.
I only have one problem with the Zanaida/Zenaida theory. I know a lot of Mexican nationals that babysit, or care for children/housekeeper type and pretty much they all have in common is the fact that they are doing it in the parents' house. They either stay with them or they are there until a certain time and then they go home. Spanish speaking only too. But I live in San Diego, 10 minutes from the border to Tijuana, and coming IN to US to work and then going OUT to Tijuas (Tijuana) or Otay is a way of life. I don't know chit about Florida or how it goes over there.
I going to post in another thread more about my thoughts but since this is about Desdemona's I don't want to get off topic.
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I had a hispanic babysitter when I lived in Kansas. I took my kids to her house as she didn't have a car and she had 2 children. When I met her she didn't even have a phone because she wasn't legal and couldn't get service. I got her one of the AT&T go phones since I wasn't leaving my kids there without a phone. Her "legal" husband left her for another woman and she was broke.She didn't have cable, I got her a DVD player so the kids could watch movies.
This angle is one of the few that I thought would leave Caylee alive.
1. If they're illegal, they will babysit really cheap. Since many women are home with their kids anyway, they'll usually keep the kids long hours.
2. Might not have phone or might have a pre-paid and can't always afford minites.
3. No cable TV.
4. Limited social life. No car, poor. Stay's within the hispanic community.
Could Casey have left her or dropped her off on the 16th or 17th ?
Wasn't the 20th the last reported sighting at Fusian ?
Could the babysitter have been evicted or had an emergency and had to leave, so she took Caylee with her because she couldn't find Casey ?
Only problems with this innocent scenario are the issues of the car being left and Casey's statements that Caylee would be in danger if she talked to LE.
I cannot believe all the information there is on http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=399664945
distracted
08-23-2008, 07:44 PM
I have to say that this is the most organized and thorough compilation of information I have seen yet regarding Caylee's disappearance. Thanks for pointing it out. It's very helpful to be able to see it all in one place. Very impressive.
Firefly
08-23-2008, 07:50 PM
*Brrr, chills* These ideas sure made me sit up straight. Ohhh, this Desdemona has some logical connections that need to be investigated.
DagNasty
08-23-2008, 08:00 PM
Can someone who has a myspace "befriend" desdemona and send her a pm asking where she heard the part about Jesse's neighbor saying that he spent the weekend with Casey?
I think she means that Tony's Ex-roomate Clint said that
KR2tonenow
08-23-2008, 08:27 PM
The above is from the Fusian thread, but it also applies here.
I would certainly hope that this blogger has alerted LE to these findings.
Nothing has been noted on Fox regarding these addresses. Is Greta aware?
KR2tonenow
08-23-2008, 08:31 PM
I cannot believe all the information there is on http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=399664945
Quite brilliant actually! Good job Olive for bringing this over.
PotatoHead
08-23-2008, 08:35 PM
Quite brilliant actually! Good job Olive for bringing this over.
This Woman has put a great deal of work into her efforts.
KR2tonenow
08-23-2008, 08:37 PM
This Woman has put a great deal of work into her efforts.
Agreed. = book deal and fast.
wedavis
08-23-2008, 08:56 PM
I think she means that Tony's Ex-roomate Clint said that
Clint never said that.
wedavis
08-23-2008, 08:58 PM
Agreed. = book deal and fast.
WS has about 95% of the same info. LE you can bet has 100 times more and the FBI 1000. Book deal, that's funny.
wedavis
08-23-2008, 09:05 PM
This Woman has put a great deal of work into her efforts.
What I found interesting was the fact that Casey had on one of her daily myspace blogs for July 7th (before her profile was taken down) as "currently viewing" American Psycho.
I forgot the fact that I saw a screen shot of that blog on thread #17 here on WS.
In the movie after the main charater kills a man investigators ask the main character questions and here is an excerpt of that convo:
So typical, isn't it ? It's just strange. One day, someone's walking around, going to work, alive, and then-- Nothing. People just disappear. The earth just... opens up and swallows them. Eerie. Really eerie. Listen, you'll have to excuse me. I have a lunch meeting with Cliff Huxtable [fictitious person] at Four Seasons in 20 minutes.
The Four Seasons ? Isn't that a little far uptown ? I mean, aren't you gonna be late ?
No, there's one down here. [spur of the moment transparent lie]
Oh, really ? I didn't know that.
Yeah, it's very good.
Listen, if anything else occurs to you, any information
Absolutely. I'm 100 percent with you.
I'm in the mood for wild theories today... :)
PotatoHead
08-23-2008, 09:11 PM
Agreed. = book deal and fast.
Possibly, but I'd like to think she just wants to find Caylee - and the truth?
PotatoHead
08-23-2008, 09:17 PM
<respectfully snipped>
I'm in the mood for wild theories today... :)
You have far, far, far more patience than I do.
I'm tired (fed-up) with theories and I keep hoping to discover new/missed FACTS.
I don't jump on most of the 'theory' band-wagons, but I do appreciate the efforts that so many people are there are doing to find Caylee. Mind you, I am also firmly in the camp that believes LE does have more than we think they do.
Mountainmama87
08-23-2008, 09:20 PM
She has been in my favorites list for about a week and a half now. She has the best compilation of organized info anywhere...Girl has done her homework.
wedavis
08-23-2008, 09:22 PM
You have far, far, far more patience than I do.
I'm tired (fed-up) with theories and I keep hoping to discover new/missed FACTS.
I don't jump on most of the 'theory' band-wagons, but I do appreciate the efforts that so many people are there are doing to find Caylee. Mind you, I am also firmly in the camp that believes LE does have more than we think they do.
I understand, but it is a fact that she admitted to watching that movie just one week before she was arrested...
FIND'HER
08-23-2008, 09:23 PM
MY VERY FIRST POST...I'm A Newbie.. Been trying to join now for like 2 weeks. Had to get my email through my provider....
FIND'HER
08-23-2008, 09:25 PM
I find this post interesting I believe there is some connection. I see the web page and and their are friends of caseys on this web page too
wedavis
08-23-2008, 09:28 PM
She has been in my favorites list for about a week and a half now. She has the best compilation of organized info anywhere...Girl has done her homework.
WS has so much more, and because it does it is more spread out (and maybe hard to find - much less read in one hour like you can read her site in).
Mountainmama87
08-23-2008, 09:32 PM
WS has so much more, and because it does it is more spread out (and maybe hard to find - much less read in one hour like you can read her site in).
WS has many different opinions...it's in my favorites too! :)
yosande
08-23-2008, 09:34 PM
Desdemona has been blogging and sleuthing now on her myspace at http://www.myspace.com/desdemonamontague
She is a fantastic sleuther. She has blogs set up with great information and the timeline on her profile page is excellent! There is some discrepancies with George's report of the gas cans. Check it out.
And desdemona, if you are reading this, please join Websleuths. We could use you here!
I don't have a myspace account, but want to say something about desdemnamontague's timeline.
6/9 was a Monday, not a Friday.
also do you know when Cindy/George had a vacation, and if they went anywhere and if they took Caylee?
yolorado
08-23-2008, 09:37 PM
But we still go back to what Casey told LE:
Nanny is about 26 years old. She knows her from the club scene.
But has NO phone number.... good OR bad that traces to Zanny.
But has NO address... even if she skipped town, a neighbor would verify that Zanny lived there until she suddenly disappeared one night.
NOBODY at the clubs OR any friends or family members ever spoke to or met or saw this person. NOBODY ever mentions Caylee talking about the times she spent with Zanny.
And we still get back to why is that Caylee's mom won't take police to where she left Caylee the last, or any time, ever, or provide any other verifiable information that a babysitter even exists? She left Caylee somewhere. Where? Unless she can come up with a rational and believable answer for that one, she's still in deep doo-doo.
Oh, and we still get back to the calls Caylee's mom said she made and received...from Zanny, from Caylee. They don't seem to exist? That increases the depth of the doo-doo.
Then on top of that, Caylee's mom was telling people at TonE's that Caylee was at the GP's or the nanny's while she was telling the GP's that Caylee was with her or the nanny, but none of that seems to be verifiable. Why did she have different stories for different people...if she wasn't trying to cover something up?
Don't get me wrong, I think anything is worth looking into and I hope that something leads to a live little Caylee, but I'm not going to forget the nexis here, and it's Caylee's mom. All questions lead back to her and, for some reason, she doesn't have any good answers.
PotatoHead
08-23-2008, 09:40 PM
I understand, but it is a fact that she admitted to watching that movie just one week before she was arrested...
Sorry, no offense in tended regarding the word 'facts'. I think I misinterpreted your comment to mean that Desdemona was going for a book/movie deal, not Casey.
I apologize if it sounded like I meant otherwise?
Regardless, I do admire your patience, either way. I'm too da*n annoyed to have any left.
PotatoHead
08-23-2008, 09:40 PM
MY VERY FIRST POST...I'm A Newbie.. Been trying to join now for like 2 weeks. Had to get my email through my provider....
Love your name.
PotatoHead
08-23-2008, 09:43 PM
And we still get back to why is that Caylee's mom won't take police to where she left Caylee, or provide any other verifiable information that a babysitter exists? She left Caylee somewhere. Where? Unless she can come up with a rational and believable answer for that one, she's still in deep doo-doo.
Oh, and we still get back to the calls Caylee's mom said she made and received...from Zanny, from Caylee. They don't seem to exist? That increases the depth of the doo-doo.
Not to mention one other significant fact:
WHO hires people they know from a 'club scene' as a Nanny? That is not the first place I'd be interviewing candidates as a Child Care Provider.
Mountainmama87
08-23-2008, 09:46 PM
Not to mention one other significant fact:
WHO hires people they know from a 'club scene' as a Nanny? That is not the first place I'd be interviewing candidates as a Child Care Provider.
LMAO! No joke!:bang:
yolorado
08-23-2008, 09:49 PM
LMAO! No joke!:bang:
But, you know, looking around for responsible daycare (with a set, permanent address and phone number), a waste...of time, huge waste.
Firefly
08-23-2008, 09:56 PM
Not to mention one other significant fact:
WHO hires people they know from a 'club scene' as a Nanny? That is not the first place I'd be interviewing candidates as a Child Care Provider.
Who hires a nanny/babysitter when you don't have a job or money coming in? What was she bartering for in return? Hmmmm.....
wedavis
08-23-2008, 10:02 PM
Sorry, no offense in tended regarding the word 'facts'. I think I misinterpreted your comment to mean that Desdemona was going for a book/movie deal, not Casey.
I apologize if it sounded like I meant otherwise?
Regardless, I do admire your patience, either way. I'm too da*n annoyed to have any left.
It was Kr2 that believes this Desdemona should get a book deal (which I found funny).
Right now since there is no new credible info coming in I am treating this case like I would, say, an interactive mystery novel.
I never claim to have found a "smoking gun" I just share what I find "interesting." :)
PotatoHead
08-23-2008, 10:08 PM
Who hires a nanny/babysitter when you don't have a job or money coming in? What was she bartering for in return? Hmmmm.....
That scares me, it does.
I can't get beyond that fact that she'd 'look for/investigate' her child's Care Giver in clubs.
I'd lay long odds that many WS'ers also partied and went to clubs in their day. And I'd also guess that most grew up to a new level of maturity once they became parents.
Sorry, not buying that story under any circumstances.
You just don't trust your Kids to Bar-Flys.
logic13
08-23-2008, 10:17 PM
Don't want to be the negative Nelly..
Her myspace does have some good information. Laid out well!
Not 100% solid though.. she has a quote from Cindy that is not correct. ( I'm REALLY picky about quotes.. it is meant for taking as fact of statement) She also has date with day of week wrong...
I personally do not believe in the large leap of ....Casey might know this guy CASANOVA... just because he is in music / DJ / party scene. I bet if you looked at every single person that lives in SAWGRASS apts you could find more DJ's etc.
As much as she is on the computer, and seeing how she STILL speaks & sees her ex boyfriends... I don't think she knows this CASANOVA.. she would probably have him as a friend on the myspace.. etc... if there were a connection between the two. Jump through all her friends on Casey's myspace page & you start playing with that : 6 degrees of seperation stuff.
I just think it isn't a connection.. rather a FAR leap between the two.
( But great myspace, easy to decifer info on the case )
IMHO
100%Agave
08-23-2008, 10:31 PM
Not to mention one other significant fact:
WHO hires people they know from a 'club scene' as a Nanny? That is not the first place I'd be interviewing candidates as a Child Care Provider.
What gets me is the use of the word 'Nanny'.
When I think of a nanny, I think of someone who lives in your home and has full control of your children. They handle everything from getting them up in morning to handling their full care all day to putting them to bed at night.
A babysitter, to me, takes care of your child for a few hours or even while you are at work but you take care of getting them up and dressed in the morning and getting them to bed at night.
Nannies usually make more money that babysitters do.
People with lots of money have Nannies. Regular everyday people have babysitters or daycare providers.
Why the use of the word nanny? What does that imply about Casey? Maybe she was brought up using the word nanny to describe a caregiver but maybe she used that because it made her sound more important.
Maybe it is important, maybe not, but I think it is a question to answer.
Firefly
08-23-2008, 10:45 PM
[quote=100%Agave;2545592]What gets me is the use of the word 'Nanny'.
.....Why the use of the word nanny? What does that imply about Casey? Maybe she was brought up using the word nanny to describe a caregiver but maybe she used that because it made her sound more important.....
I agree with this statement. When you say you have a nanny....to people who don't know you well....clubbers, for instance, it will make you sound like you have money to spend.....important. This is all part of that false self she puts out for everyone to see. If she had told anyone she was a lyin', unemployed thief........
lisa0477
08-23-2008, 10:50 PM
I was just looking at the pics in Desd's myspace, where the LE were doing the search on the backyard. Did anyone notice what looks like flags in the ground in a oval type shape and the bucket with <concrete?> with flags? Like always sorry if talked about.
Mountainmama87
08-23-2008, 11:01 PM
What gets me is the use of the word 'Nanny'.
When I think of a nanny, I think of someone who lives in your home and has full control of your children. They handle everything from getting them up in morning to handling their full care all day to putting them to bed at night.
A babysitter, to me, takes care of your child for a few hours or even while you are at work but you take care of getting them up and dressed in the morning and getting them to bed at night.
Nannies usually make more money that babysitters do.
People with lots of money have Nannies. Regular everyday people have babysitters or daycare providers.
Why the use of the word nanny? What does that imply about Casey? Maybe she was brought up using the word nanny to describe a caregiver but maybe she used that because it made her sound more important.
Maybe it is important, maybe not, but I think it is a question to answer.
I agree. Good observation.
leandjl
08-23-2008, 11:02 PM
Maybe Casey was into something illegal - the person she was doing the illegal work for is very wealthy due to this illegal activity. They have ZG, probably illegal, working as a nanny/housekeeper at their house. Casey does go to their house and leaves Caylee there while she's "working". Something doesn't go right at the house, someone gets killed, "bad man" forces Casey to help him get rid of the body in her car. ZG knows what happened and gets scared, takes Caylee and runs. Anyone knowing that child for a year or more would fall in love with her. "Bad man" doesn't want trouble - tells Casey if she talks something bad will happen
QuickAttack
08-24-2008, 12:45 AM
Question about Casanova's website. The music. The lyrics...are they really "f*ck me"?
Am I hearing that correctly?
Wow...at 43, I'm finally a fuddy duddy.
maskedwoman
08-24-2008, 01:09 AM
I don't have a myspace account, but want to say something about desdemnamontague's timeline.
6/9 was a Monday, not a Friday.
also do you know when Cindy/George had a vacation, and if they went anywhere and if they took Caylee?
I emailed her about June 9th.
I remember hearing early on that Cindy and George had supposedly gone on vacation, but never heard any confirmation of that. It's been bothering me, too.
tttterri
08-24-2008, 01:12 AM
I posted some links on the media,images,ect thread. Some of Caseys party photobucket pics have similar red walls and kitchen cabinets trim and a cutout hole that look very similar. We need to find more sawgrass photos online to get a better view though. While doing phone and address research online somewhere, I found that a lady named Lori Gilmore age 36 had her occupation listed as management at Southwest Realty Group LLC and she has been listed as relative or roomie with Derrick age 46. Both were using different apt numbers for Sawgrass at different times and also used same phone number as Sawgrass Office 407-658-4134. I am led to think it is possible that the Lori was working as manager there at one time and Derrick was living with her. I have more but I need to go over what has already been posted here by others to see what hasnt been added. I did read an apt review where someone stated that their manager at Sawgrass had been recently replaced as of their post on Jan 2008. Sawgrass must have recently new management at this time.
pixarfreak
08-24-2008, 01:14 AM
Cindy in the Greta interview? commented about celebrating her 50th birthday in early June. When vacation was mentioned, I thought from work and not being away somewhere
maskedwoman
08-24-2008, 01:15 AM
[quote=100%Agave;2545592]What gets me is the use of the word 'Nanny'.
.....Why the use of the word nanny? What does that imply about Casey? Maybe she was brought up using the word nanny to describe a caregiver but maybe she used that because it made her sound more important.....
I agree with this statement. When you say you have a nanny....to people who don't know you well....clubbers, for instance, it will make you sound like you have money to spend.....important. This is all part of that false self she puts out for everyone to see. If she had told anyone she was a lyin', unemployed thief........
Maybe that would work better on people who've been drinking. Sober, I would not believe that someone driving a well-used sunbird had the money to employ an actual Nanny. :rolleyes:
petresq_algc
08-24-2008, 02:48 AM
Has anyone else noticed a strip club called Dancers Royale being listed on several of the myspace pages? I wonder if that club is significant in any way or owned/managed by the same people:confused:
Amberjack
08-24-2008, 10:49 AM
There are MANY Zanaida Gonzales'
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Sawgrass Apartments
2859 South Conway Rd.
Orlando, FL 32812
(Reportedly, a nightclub promoter lived in Apt. #212...
Derrick Williams?)
Society Entertainment
1940 SOUTH CONWAY RD
ORLANDO FL 32817
Changed 07/08/2007
http://tinyurl.com/64rq78
Conway Road area...Very "busy" with names/locations...
ShinaLites Map:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en...mid=1216856908 (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&gl=us&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=114383613791904574339.0004528e4e9be1b8c574c&mid=1216856908)
Could "nanny" actually be Casey's grandmother?
http://tinyurl.com/6jkrt9
keeponsearching
08-24-2008, 10:58 AM
What gets me is the use of the word 'Nanny'.
When I think of a nanny, I think of someone who lives in your home and has full control of your children. They handle everything from getting them up in morning to handling their full care all day to putting them to bed at night.
A babysitter, to me, takes care of your child for a few hours or even while you are at work but you take care of getting them up and dressed in the morning and getting them to bed at night.
Nannies usually make more money that babysitters do.
People with lots of money have Nannies. Regular everyday people have babysitters or daycare providers.
Why the use of the word nanny? What does that imply about Casey? Maybe she was brought up using the word nanny to describe a caregiver but maybe she used that because it made her sound more important.
Maybe it is important, maybe not, but I think it is a question to answer.
My sister is a nanny and she only works from 7 to 5. Sometimes night, and vacations. Before she would stay the night a few times a week with another family. BUt nannys get paid more. If you says she is a babysitter she gets pretty defended so maybe whoever watches caylee was a nanny before and and prefers to be called that still. Who knows.
1st time blogger
08-24-2008, 11:18 AM
What gets me is the use of the word 'Nanny'.
When I think of a nanny, I think of someone who lives in your home and has full control of your children. They handle everything from getting them up in morning to handling their full care all day to putting them to bed at night.
A babysitter, to me, takes care of your child for a few hours or even while you are at work but you take care of getting them up and dressed in the morning and getting them to bed at night.
Nannies usually make more money that babysitters do.
People with lots of money have Nannies. Regular everyday people have babysitters or daycare providers.
Why the use of the word nanny? What does that imply about Casey? Maybe she was brought up using the word nanny to describe a caregiver but maybe she used that because it made her sound more important.
Maybe it is important, maybe not, but I think it is a question to answer.
THANK YOU AGAVE!!!! this pretentous misuse of "Nanny" has PO'ed me from the beginning. Stupid family. someone needs to explain what a Nanny is to them rather than a babysitter. She has used the term to sound like she has way more money than the reality is. and her mom is just as Stupid.
January.
08-24-2008, 11:27 AM
Wow! Lots of interesting reading. Excellent job Desdemona!
pixarfreak
08-24-2008, 11:29 AM
Child support was mentioned in a thread
I believe she was getting money. Not alot, but enough to keep Caylee and a little left. She had zero expenses living at home
Mountainmama87
08-24-2008, 11:38 AM
It is all to clear to me what is up with team JB and LP/TP. Cast doubt on LE, cast doubt on Casey. Do anything possible to avert the attention from the CA. The media must stop letting these people take away from getting to the truth of what happened to Caylee. Everytime they allow them to open their mouths this is exactly what is happening. Why does LP feel the need to tell America about pinging cell phones and why does he feel the need to insert names. Everything he says is for a reason. He is a 'wannabe' reality star....not a pro actor.
Do you honestly believe LE is not doing these very things if there is a need to do them? I know LE is not perfect by no means. But I am going to trust on this one that they are doing everything in their power to find the truth. In this case I trust what they aren't saying far more than what team Casey IS saying....
Kakax
08-24-2008, 11:52 AM
[quote=100%Agave;2545592]What gets me is the use of the word 'Nanny'.
.....Why the use of the word nanny? What does that imply about Casey? Maybe she was brought up using the word nanny to describe a caregiver but maybe she used that because it made her sound more important.....
I agree with this statement. When you say you have a nanny....to people who don't know you well....clubbers, for instance, it will make you sound like you have money to spend.....important. This is all part of that false self she puts out for everyone to see. If she had told anyone she was a lyin', unemployed thief........
I agree with your statement about the word "nanny" and what that word conjures up in your mind.
I think it is interesting that when Cindy talking about the "nanny" refers to her as the "sitter".
I think Casey was using the word "nanny" to further her image that she had a great job so that she would look good in the eyes of her new BF.
bunniecakes
08-24-2008, 12:03 PM
HI! I'm new here! Love the site :)
Okay, I am not sure if this has been posted anywhere else. But, I was searching myspace for Zanaida's and saw this one
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=166182731
Except, apparently I typed it as Zenaida Gonzalez. Anyways, she is in Kissime.
tttterri
08-24-2008, 12:24 PM
My gdaughter was taught to call her grandmother Nanny instead of grandmother so I can see this title being used in different ways. I also read somewhere at the beginning of Cindys interviews that Caylee called Grandpa George "Jo-Jo" and Grandma Cindy "CC"! THAT info made me sad that they did not seem to want their grandparent titles used by Caylee. I wear my title of MaMaw with pride and I am the same age as Cindy! My gchildren are corrected fast when they try out my first name instead of MaMaw also! I feel it is disrespectful but that is just my opinion. I take it the same as a child calling their parents by their first name, that also, to me, is disrespectful.
pixarfreak
08-24-2008, 12:24 PM
25 Jul 2008 03:30
COME HANGOUT AT ICONZ TOMMORROW NIGHT MERCEDES STREETS PRESENTS WE THE BEST ARTIST "ACEHOOD" LIVE IN CONCERT..ALSO MY HOMEYS MAYNE AND DREW BRINGING FORTH ORLANDOS VERY OWN BALI, TELL EM BLESS SENT YA
this was posted to Zanaida
Mercedes Streets=Laura Creech from Society Entertainment????
tttterri
08-24-2008, 02:07 PM
I dont know where to put this so I will just drop it here as it is related to Fusion and entertainers.
FOLLOWING INDICATES THAT CASEY KNEW A TORION FROM FUSION WHO WAS A PERFORMER.
Interesting although possibly unrelated is this:
A FRIEND OF TORION ASKS HIM ABOUT AN ACCIDENT ON THE 29TH OF JUNE.
6-9 Casey is posting to a Jessica, trying to find someone to work with our boy Torion.
THERE IS AN ENTERTAINER NAMED TORION AT FUSION CLUB.
(note:there was a poster to torion on myspace on the 29th, said something to the effect "heard there was an accident, are u ok? I don't want any of my boys hurt". ( I lost my link to the Torians myspace page)
Note: Caseys car was abandoned a few days before June 30.
belleyes
08-24-2008, 05:08 PM
[QUOTE=tttterri;2547943]I dont know where to put this so I will just drop it here as it is related to Fusion and entertainers.
FOLLOWING INDICATES THAT CASEY KNEW A TORION FROM FUSION WHO WAS A PERFORMER.
Interesting although possibly unrelated is this:
A FRIEND OF TORION ASKS HIM ABOUT AN ACCIDENT ON THE 29TH OF JUNE.
6-9 Casey is posting to a Jessica, trying to find someone to work with our boy Torion.
THERE IS AN ENTERTAINER NAMED TORION AT FUSION CLUB.
(note:there was a poster to torion on myspace on the 29th, said something to the effect "heard there was an accident, are u ok? I don't want any of my boys hurt". ( I lost my link to the Torians myspace page)
Note: Caseys car was abandoned a few days before June 30.[/QUOTE
VERY INTERESTING--:detective::
olive
08-24-2008, 07:38 PM
25 Jul 2008 03:30
COME HANGOUT AT ICONZ TOMMORROW NIGHT MERCEDES STREETS PRESENTS WE THE BEST ARTIST "ACEHOOD" LIVE IN CONCERT..ALSO MY HOMEYS MAYNE AND DREW BRINGING FORTH ORLANDOS VERY OWN BALI, TELL EM BLESS SENT YA
this was posted to Zanaida
Mercedes Streets=Laura Creech from Society Entertainment????
pixar- Who is Laura Creech and what is the link that you found to mercedes streets? Can you elaborate?
NighTillDawn
08-24-2008, 09:57 PM
I am starting a thread for the information uncovered by someone who could not get registered at Websleuths, so she had contact over myspace with a few of our sleuthers to offer up the research she uncovered. She goes by the name "Desdemona".
Her research is quite good and I feel it needs sleuthed further and in more detail. Here goes:
Is there some way you can get your friend to give us a surrounding address for this Bellavida complex that is being built? I'd like to check it on google maps. Thx.
:praying: for Caylee
pixarfreak
08-24-2008, 10:01 PM
pixar- Who is Laura Creech and what is the link that you found to mercedes streets? Can you elaborate?
When you look at the business info of Society Entertainment
Laura Creech is listed as a business partner.
Someone discovered she is connected to Mercedes Streets
olive
08-24-2008, 10:14 PM
Is there some way you can get your friend to give us a surrounding address for this Bellavida complex that is being built? I'd like to check it on google maps. Thx.
:praying: for Caylee
Sorry, NighTillDawn, I have no way to contact desdemona. I've never communicated with her personally, I've just found her sleuthing really informative. A couple of other sleuthers had contact with her, and I simply reposted their posts into this thread. Check out my first post on this thread, and maybe pm them since they have her contact info.
NighTillDawn
08-24-2008, 10:17 PM
Sorry, NighTillDawn, I have no way to contact desdemona. I've never communicated with her personally, I've just found her sleuthing really informative. A couple of other sleuthers had contact with her, and I simply reposted their posts into this thread. Check out my first post on this thread, and maybe pm them since they have her contact info.
Thanks Olive, I'll try tracking the original poster down. In the meantime I did bring up an area that I think may be what desdemona was referring to, but am having a hard time linking it here.
:praying: for Caylee
sweetwater
08-24-2008, 10:25 PM
I dont know where to put this so I will just drop it here as it is related to Fusion and entertainers.
FOLLOWING INDICATES THAT CASEY KNEW A TORION FROM FUSION WHO WAS A PERFORMER.
Interesting although possibly unrelated is this:
A FRIEND OF TORION ASKS HIM ABOUT AN ACCIDENT ON THE 29TH OF JUNE.
6-9 Casey is posting to a Jessica, trying to find someone to work with our boy Torion.
THERE IS AN ENTERTAINER NAMED TORION AT FUSION CLUB.
(note:there was a poster to torion on myspace on the 29th, said something to the effect "heard there was an accident, are u ok? I don't want any of my boys hurt". ( I lost my link to the Torians myspace page)
Note: Caseys car was abandoned a few days before June 30.
I thought I read a week or two ago that the Society buy, Derrick W., aka Casanova W., after the infamous serial killer, do you suppose, was arrested/re-arrested on June 30.
wedavis
08-24-2008, 11:14 PM
25 Jul 2008 03:30
COME HANGOUT AT ICONZ TOMMORROW NIGHT MERCEDES STREETS PRESENTS WE THE BEST ARTIST "ACEHOOD" LIVE IN CONCERT..ALSO MY HOMEYS MAYNE AND DREW BRINGING FORTH ORLANDOS VERY OWN BALI, TELL EM BLESS SENT YA
this was posted to Zanaida
Mercedes Streets=Laura Creech from Society Entertainment????
Link please.
wedavis
08-24-2008, 11:18 PM
I dont know where to put this so I will just drop it here as it is related to Fusion and entertainers.
FOLLOWING INDICATES THAT CASEY KNEW A TORION FROM FUSION WHO WAS A PERFORMER.
Interesting although possibly unrelated is this:
A FRIEND OF TORION ASKS HIM ABOUT AN ACCIDENT ON THE 29TH OF JUNE.
6-9 Casey is posting to a Jessica, trying to find someone to work with our boy Torion.
THERE IS AN ENTERTAINER NAMED TORION AT FUSION CLUB.
(note:there was a poster to torion on myspace on the 29th, said something to the effect "heard there was an accident, are u ok? I don't want any of my boys hurt". ( I lost my link to the Torians myspace page)
Note: Caseys car was abandoned a few days before June 30.
Link please.
bunniecakes
08-24-2008, 11:30 PM
"25 Jul 2008 03:30
COME HANGOUT AT ICONZ TOMMORROW NIGHT MERCEDES STREETS PRESENTS WE THE BEST ARTIST "ACEHOOD" LIVE IN CONCERT..ALSO MY HOMEYS MAYNE AND DREW BRINGING FORTH ORLANDOS VERY OWN BALI, TELL EM BLESS SENT YA"
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=166182731
It's a myspace for a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. She lives in Kissime and has that information on one of the comments.
sweetwater
08-24-2008, 11:40 PM
I don't understand the problem or mystery here, but when you google Bella Vida Resort, the very first things that pop up are Bella Vida Resort, Orlando.... there are rentals there and properties for sale. It's in Kissimmee, Fl.
sweetwater
08-24-2008, 11:43 PM
"25 Jul 2008 03:30
COME HANGOUT AT ICONZ TOMMORROW NIGHT MERCEDES STREETS PRESENTS WE THE BEST ARTIST "ACEHOOD" LIVE IN CONCERT..ALSO MY HOMEYS MAYNE AND DREW BRINGING FORTH ORLANDOS VERY OWN BALI, TELL EM BLESS SENT YA"
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=166182731
It's a myspace for a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. She lives in Kissime and has that information on one of the comments.
eeuuww. On her slide show is one of the guys identified as one of the fab 5! And she's got little kids pictured there, too. Eeuu.
impatientredhead
08-25-2008, 12:00 AM
"25 Jul 2008 03:30
COME HANGOUT AT ICONZ TOMMORROW NIGHT MERCEDES STREETS PRESENTS WE THE BEST ARTIST "ACEHOOD" LIVE IN CONCERT..ALSO MY HOMEYS MAYNE AND DREW BRINGING FORTH ORLANDOS VERY OWN BALI, TELL EM BLESS SENT YA"
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=166182731
It's a myspace for a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. She lives in Kissime and has that information on one of the comments.
I am sure the glittery background is blinding me on this page, but where does it say her name is ZG?
KR2tonenow
08-25-2008, 12:49 AM
eeuuww. On her slide show is one of the guys identified as one of the fab 5! And she's got little kids pictured there, too. Eeuu.
It looks like a plausible connection, but wouldn't it be put on private by now. I think alot of these "people" connected to Fusion and these other places all hung together.
The "Zanny" is diffently in that group of losers!
Here is Derrick Williams myspace - http://www.myspace.com/casanovawilliams
I am checking out a few other things, some raises an eyebrow. Will find out more.
Under the bio I noticed said person is from NY. Could that be why NY was referenced by someone as a place of interest for Caylee's whereabouts?
Cagney
08-25-2008, 01:30 AM
What gets me is the use of the word 'Nanny'.
When I think of a nanny, I think of someone who lives in your home and has full control of your children. They handle everything from getting them up in morning to handling their full care all day to putting them to bed at night.
A babysitter, to me, takes care of your child for a few hours or even while you are at work but you take care of getting them up and dressed in the morning and getting them to bed at night.
Nannies usually make more money that babysitters do.
People with lots of money have Nannies. Regular everyday people have babysitters or daycare providers.
Why the use of the word nanny? What does that imply about Casey? Maybe she was brought up using the word nanny to describe a caregiver but maybe she used that because it made her sound more important.
Maybe it is important, maybe not, but I think it is a question to answer.
Thank you for noting this! The word Nanny has been bothering me for a long time as well. I am a childcare provider and none of my parents call me a Nanny. I am their babysitter.
I do realize that Nanny can be used in different context's but in this case its clear that Casey is using the word Nanny to refer to the sitter.
A bit OT: and I am sure that many of you know this but Zabasearch is a free people search that is a little bit (not much) more accurate than whitepages.
Here you can see how many Zenaida's (http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=ZENAIDA%20GONZALES&state=ALL&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr=)
NighTillDawn
08-25-2008, 01:43 AM
I don't understand the problem or mystery here, but when you google Bella Vida Resort, the very first things that pop up are Bella Vida Resort, Orlando.... there are rentals there and properties for sale. It's in Kissimmee, Fl.
sweetwater, I have seen this website before. There is no construction going on at that address that desdemona posted earlier. This is another address. I think I found the area that desdemona was talking about but for some reason I am not able to link it correctly because the place does not have a physical address.
:praying: for Caylee
If I knew Casey had put "American Psycho" on her web page I completely forgot it. If it's true...well let's just say I have thought about that a whole lot in the past few days (since finding Des myspace) would definitely lead me more towards thinkng premeditated and not accidental.
IrishSweetOne
08-25-2008, 10:14 AM
eeuuww. On her slide show is one of the guys identified as one of the fab 5! And she's got little kids pictured there, too. Eeuu.
OK I didn't see one of the fab 5 in the slide show , which picture are you talking about ??
Mouser
08-25-2008, 10:24 AM
Thank you for noting this! The word Nanny has been bothering me for a long time as well. I am a childcare provider and none of my parents call me a Nanny. I am their babysitter.
I do realize that Nanny can be used in different context's but in this case its clear that Casey is using the word Nanny to refer to the sitter.
A bit OT: and I am sure that many of you know this but Zabasearch is a free people search that is a little bit (not much) more accurate than whitepages.
Here you can see how many Zenaida's (http://www.zabasearch.com/query1_zaba.php?sname=ZENAIDA%20GONZALES&state=ALL&ref=&se=&doby=&city=&name_style=1&tm=&tmr=)
I also have thought this odd. I used to baby-sit when I was a teenager. I was paid per hour. When I was older, I was a "nanny" for a couple of years. I lived with the family and basically was on duty for most of the children's awake time, and I was paid a salary. I also knew many other nannies. "Baby-sitting" is a part-time job, whereas being a "nanny" is more of a profession, and as such is usually much higher paid. People with money have nannies, most people (especially if they're not gainfully employed) can only afford baby-sitters.
As for Zabasearch--I've looked there and the closest match to Casey's "Zenaida" that I found was one born in 1972, but that would make her much older than 26 years old.
bunniecakes
08-25-2008, 11:29 AM
I am sure the glittery background is blinding me on this page, but where does it say her name is ZG?
I was searching for Zenaida Gonzalez under myspace people search and found that. I didn't realize I had spelled it wrong until recently. All of my searches have been for Zenaida.
IrishSweetOne
08-25-2008, 12:08 PM
I am sure the glittery background is blinding me on this page, but where does it say her name is ZG?
I found this ZG early on , you just do a people search for ZG on myspace . I thought the same thing when I first found it and she does have connections to NY , I think her parents live there (the Bronx ).
It appeared to me when I first looked at this a few weeks back that she recently dyed her hair blonde and visited NY too (note the photos in the motel room ). There's an obvious gang presents associated with this ZG , even her "older babies" are throwing up the 5 point star .
I haven't been able to make any connection with this ZG and this case as of yet .
pregodego2
08-25-2008, 09:58 PM
Under the bio I noticed said person is from NY. Could that be why NY was referenced by someone as a place of interest for Caylee's whereabouts?
casey said herself that ZG had places in NY as well as other states.
pregodego2
08-25-2008, 10:34 PM
"25 Jul 2008 03:30
COME HANGOUT AT ICONZ TOMMORROW NIGHT MERCEDES STREETS PRESENTS WE THE BEST ARTIST "ACEHOOD" LIVE IN CONCERT..ALSO MY HOMEYS MAYNE AND DREW BRINGING FORTH ORLANDOS VERY OWN BALI, TELL EM BLESS SENT YA"
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=166182731
It's a myspace for a woman named Zenaida Gonzalez. She lives in Kissime and has that information on one of the comments.
THIS IS THE SAME ZG THAT WENT TO SAWGRASS. Her daughters names are Jasmine and michelle (jasmine y michelle), check out the form filled out at sawgrass aprtments by the ZG that visited there.
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0825/17290847.pdf
it asks who will live there and she puts jasmine y michelle
it doesn't necessarily tie her to the case, but it does tie her to sawgrass, the nightlife and party scene that casey was in AND to NY and NJ areas like casey had mentioned.
Muzikman
08-26-2008, 12:21 AM
THIS IS THE SAME ZG THAT WENT TO SAWGRASS. Her daughters names are Jasmine and michelle (jasmine y michelle), check out the form filled out at sawgrass aprtments by the ZG that visited there.
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0825/17290847.pdf
it asks who will live there and she puts jasmine y michelle
it doesn't necessarily tie her to the case, but it does tie her to sawgrass, the nightlife and party scene that casey was in AND to NY and NJ areas like casey had mentioned.
If that message is on the comments section (I didn't see it) what was the date? Is it possible it could have been put there by one of Casey's friends trying to cover for her?
zadari
08-26-2008, 12:22 AM
If that message is on the comments section (I didn't see it) what was the date? Is it possible it could have been put there by one of Casey's friends trying to cover for her? i saw that there before .. that comment it was a few days ago i think
Amberjack
08-26-2008, 12:59 AM
I don't understand the problem or mystery here, but when you google Bella Vida Resort, the very first things that pop up are Bella Vida Resort, Orlando.... there are rentals there and properties for sale. It's in Kissimmee, Fl.
There are La Bella Vida Apts/Condos and
La Bella Vida homes
bunniecakes
08-26-2008, 10:24 AM
THIS IS THE SAME ZG THAT WENT TO SAWGRASS. Her daughters names are Jasmine and michelle (jasmine y michelle), check out the form filled out at sawgrass aprtments by the ZG that visited there.
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0825/17290847.pdf
it asks who will live there and she puts jasmine y michelle
it doesn't necessarily tie her to the case, but it does tie her to sawgrass, the nightlife and party scene that casey was in AND to NY and NJ areas like casey had mentioned.
wow thats REALLY interesting
MyDogScout
08-26-2008, 11:18 AM
Casey said ZG did not have any children (if I recall that correctly). Also, the ZG from Sawgrass that was interviewed did not recognize Casey and visa versa.
MarleneM
08-26-2008, 11:51 AM
Casey said ZG did not have any children (if I recall that correctly). Also, the ZG from Sawgrass that was interviewed did not recognize Casey and visa versa.
And, ZG never LIVED at Sawgrass as CA has stated. CA could not have been telling the truth about the EMPTY apartment that this ZG applied to look at in June. Neither of them would have had the keys to #210. IMO after all I've read, CA (probably through friends who LIVE in Sawgrass Apts) got this ZG's application information after Caylee went missing and decided to use it in a cover story.
Princess Rose
08-26-2008, 01:43 PM
We now all know from the documents released on August 25 that there are security cameras at Sawgrass Apartments and that the police reviewed the tapes and the police say Casey Anthony NEVER went there on the day in question or any day in proximity to the day she claimed to drop Caylee off there.
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