backward state site

[bobodedoo]

"We all freaked out" is what I heard on the slow spead


Here is the third one. This is from this passage:

p. 99-100 of the transcripts talks about people who will be hurt if she continues to perpetuate her lies. Page 100, line 1, Sergeant Allen says:

"And you know what, one person could put a stop to that."

Casey's reply, p. 100, line 2:

"I been trying."

This is the reverse of her phrase "I been trying." The first is at normal speed. The second is slowed down to 80%.

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3slow.mp3

I hear something distinctive....

[IntriguedMind]

"We all freaked out" is what I heard on the slow spead

I hear we all freaked out too. weird.

[Laneymae]

I hear "Now she'd nap."

That's what I thought I heard, too.

[Karen Anne RN]

I heard something like - "I'm obvious - little well she's little look in the wheel is"
"Look in the wheel."
George's gun was found in his wheel well.

[ShawnHS]

We all hear something different!

I think maybe instead of backward speech telling something about the unconscious mind of the speaker it tells something about the unconscious mind of the listener!:laugh: Or, it is not a true reversal.

[monoxide]

I don't know if I believe this whole thing but it is pretty cool

[Theonly1]

Or, it is not a true reversal.

Can someone run a big section of it on youtube? Pretty please :).

[tiredofthis]

I have been gone all day, just got home. Wow, this thread is pretty fascinating:)
I found something right before I had to leave today that I thought was interesting but I am not positive what she is saying so I didn't post it, but now I want you all to listen and see what you hear.
Forward she is talking about Jay Blanchard Park and taking Caylee there.
In reverse, I THINK I hear in the middle of it: "after Zanny's house ________"
I didn't want to post it yet because I can't understand all of it, and I even questioned if she is saying Zanny....
But I will put it on youtube now and you can all see what you hear. I really didn't want to jump the gun on this one since it MIGHT confirm there is a Zanny. I will edit this thread once I get a youtube link.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieuqc9fp1U
Like I said, I am not positive I hear "after Zanny's house" in the middle of this, but it jumped out at me so I wanted others take on it.

I heard it. :woohoo:

[websurfer]

[ We went to GRANNY'S House. ]
Then we had a fight.

that's what I heard.

Does RS let people hear different things or what?

[Theonly1]

[ We went to GRANNY'S House. ]
Then we had a fight.

that's what I heard.

Does RS let people hear different things or what?

THANKS for the youtube upload everyone! I definitely hear "after Zanny's house" or "after Granny's house" and the word "fight".

[Theonly1]

Can anyone upload any of the emphatic statements by the family like the "person in my granddaughter's car is not my granddaughter" or the bag of pizza/maggots speech?

[tiredofthis]

Can anyone upload any of the emphatic statements by the family like the "person in my granddaughter's car is not my granddaughter" or the bag of pizza/maggots speech?

That would be interesting.

[Alyzabeth]

[ We went to GRANNY'S House. ]
Then we had a fight.

that's what I heard.

Does RS let people hear different things or what?
I have read that reversals can be overlapping and layered. That is why it is possible for different people to hear different things.
This page explains it quite well...
http://ken-welch.com/ReversedSpeech.html

[Theonly1]

[ We went to GRANNY'S House. ]
Then we had a fight.

that's what I heard.

Does RS let people hear different things or what?

I noticed on the video/s on 20/20 that Cindy spoke to Caylee and referred to herself as "Grammie" (the same way I refer to my grandmother).

I don't know if Casey called Cindy "Grandma" to Caylee or if she also said "Grammie" to her.

On a side note: Those 20/20 videos when Cindy says "come to Grammie" to Caylee it just breaks my heart. Cindy loved Caylee.

[sleuthmommy]

Here's the next one.

The passage is from the second interview. The first is at regular speed and the second is slowed down to 80%. I can't wait to see what y'all hear.

“We just need to end it. I agree with you. I have no clue where she is.”

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca2.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca2slow.mp3


Ok, I hear "Sure wouldn't happen when your napping" or something like that. I definitely hear happen and napping.

[sleuthmommy]

Ok, this can kind of be a slow process...sorry. Here's the first one I have and the original is this line:

“I didn't really want to come home, I wasn't sure what I would say about not . . ."

I am not going to add any comment because I want feedback from others :)

The first file is at normal speed, reversed. The second file is slowed down to 70%.

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca1.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca1slow.mp3

OK, this one I heard, "Um obvious, little she's little the wheel is........yeah"

[sleuthmommy]

Here is the third one. This is from this passage:

p. 99-100 of the transcripts talks about people who will be hurt if she continues to perpetuate her lies. Page 100, line 1, Sergeant Allen says:

"And you know what, one person could put a stop to that."

Casey's reply, p. 100, line 2:

"I been trying."

This is the reverse of her phrase "I been trying." The first is at normal speed. The second is slowed down to 80%.

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3slow.mp3

I hear something distinctive....


I hear "Now she naps"

[sleuthmommy]

Can anyone upload any of the emphatic statements by the family like the "person in my granddaughter's car is not my granddaughter" or the bag of pizza/maggots speech?

That would be really interesting!

[AutomaticAuttie]

I don't know if I believe this whole thing but it is pretty cool

Yeah, I am with you. It is kind cool but, to many different interruptions for me.

[ATWC66]

Here's the next one.

The passage is from the second interview. The first is at regular speed and the second is slowed down to 80%. I can't wait to see what y'all hear.

“We just need to end it. I agree with you. I have no clue where she is.”

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca2.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca2slow.mp3

Before reading everyones take on it I heard... "....happening, weird how it happened."

[ATWC66]

That was clear - "No she's not."
That one was spooky!

[Mohabi]

The first file is at normal speed, reversed. The second file is slowed down to 70%.

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca1.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca1slow.mp3

I have listened to the second file more than 50 times and need help in filling in two words, this is what I hear:

"I've asked ........ is a ........ where Khela really isn't. Yet. (Right before and during the moment she says "yet", the investigators voice in the background says "there you are" (also in reverse speech).

Any ideas what the missing two words could be?

[ATWC66]

We all hear something different!

I think maybe instead of backward speech telling something about the unconscious mind of the speaker it tells something about the unconscious mind of the listener!:laugh:
Very true. Because now I can hear what the others are coming up with sometimes.

Still very creepy!

[mommya]

Before reading everyones take on it I heard... "....happening, weird how it happened."

I hear - "Joe wouldn't help he threw it at me."

[sha-sha]

Ok, I hear "Sure wouldn't happen when your napping" or something like that. I definitely hear happen and napping.Weird I hear: true now happily ever after

[EntreNous]

Ok, this can kind of be a slow process...sorry. Here's the first one I have and the original is this line:

“I didn't really want to come home, I wasn't sure what I would say about not . . ."

I am not going to add any comment because I want feedback from others :)

The first file is at normal speed, reversed. The second file is slowed down to 70%.

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca1.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca1slow.mp3

This is what I hear...

Casey- "Um, I've asked Nettle(?) where she doesn't remember, look in (or "looking") the wheel isn't."

Detective- "Is that your lie?"

Casey- "Yep"

[PaulaF513]

Ok, I hear "Sure wouldn't happen when your napping" or something like that. I definitely hear happen and napping.

I heard...She's really happy you're happy"

[nursebeeme]

Here's the next one.

The passage is from the second interview. The first is at regular speed and the second is slowed down to 80%. I can't wait to see what y'all hear.

“We just need to end it. I agree with you. I have no clue where she is.”

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca2.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca2slow.mp3
I heard "truth couldn't help me through that one"

[nursebeeme]

Here is the third one. This is from this passage:

p. 99-100 of the transcripts talks about people who will be hurt if she continues to perpetuate her lies. Page 100, line 1, Sergeant Allen says:

"And you know what, one person could put a stop to that."

Casey's reply, p. 100, line 2:

"I been trying."

This is the reverse of her phrase "I been trying." The first is at normal speed. The second is slowed down to 80%.

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3slow.mp3

I hear something distinctive....

I am hearing "now she is ground"

[nursebeeme]

I have just downloaded audacity as well as part one and two of the interviews. I am off to check it out some more.....

[HappyChic727]

This is what I hear...

Casey- "Um, I've asked Nettle(?) where she doesn't remember, look in (or "looking") the wheel isn't."

Detective- "Is that your lie?"

Casey- "Yep"

I hear:

"Um, I asked Nettle where she is" and then "what kind of wheel it is".

In another one I hear "Chose William Hatley through . . . ".

This is very interesting.

[Marina2]

Okay, I really should be sleeping since I worked graveyard last night. The thing is, I just had to stay up and do reversals. I listened to the reversals on the program I downloaded and couldn't tear myself away. There is so much that I've heard in the reverse of these interviews. I started with the first interview and made two video clips. The first is real short, 30 secs, but it seems so clear to me what she says. (except maybe the first word or two). Either "not once, never, ever seen" Or "not lost, never, ever seen." The second is a little longer 1:30 min. or so. I can make out the beginning of a phrase and the rest is there but I dont know what she is saying. Speaking of meeting Zanny, she states "I met her through..." She says who but I can't make it out. "I met her through..." is in her forward and reverse. Maybe someone here can fill in the blanks for me. Also, toward the end she states "I'm not bull****ing this".

Off to bed...I shouldn't even be here!!!:crazy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDUq2NCVl-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXl4NH7xK2U

[Seranade]

Speaking of meeting Zanny, she states "I met her through..." She says who but I can't make it out. "I met her through..." is in her forward and reverse. Maybe someone here can fill in the blanks for me. Also, toward the end she states "I'm not bull****ing this".


~espectfully snipped~

Hearing in the reverse the same thing she is saying normally would indicate truthfulness, no?

[Alyzabeth]

~espectfully snipped~

Hearing in the reverse the same thing she is saying normally would indicate truthfulness, no?
These are called congruent reversals. The non-congruent ones are honest also, according to the experts. Supposedly, we do not lie in our reversals, which is what makes them so useful:)

[Seranade]

These are called congruent reversals. The non-congruent ones are honest also, according to the experts. Supposedly, we do not lie in our reversals, which is what makes them so useful:)

No, I understand the reversal's are honest, I'm asking is the normal, forward speech deemed honest if the reversal is saying the same thing?

[Alyzabeth]

Okay, I really should be sleeping since I worked graveyard last night. The thing is, I just had to stay up and do reversals. I listened to the reversals on the program I downloaded and couldn't tear myself away. There is so much that I've heard in the reverse of these interviews. I started with the first interview and made two video clips. The first is real short, 30 secs, but it seems so clear to me what she says. (except maybe the first word or two). Either "not once, never, ever seen" Or "not lost, never, ever seen." The second is a little longer 1:30 min. or so. I can make out the beginning of a phrase and the rest is there but I dont know what she is saying. Speaking of meeting Zanny, she states "I met her through..." She says who but I can't make it out. "I met her through..." is in her forward and reverse. Maybe someone here can fill in the blanks for me. Also, toward the end she states "I'm not bull****ing this".

Off to bed...I shouldn't even be here!!!:crazy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDUq2NCVl-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXl4NH7xK2U

I definately hear "I'm not bull****ing this"
I have a stupid migraine so I have to lay down but I want to listen to this more as soon as I can.

[Alyzabeth]

No, I understand the reversal's are honest, I'm asking is the normal, forward speech deemed honest if the reversal is saying the same thing? Ok, I'm sorry:) I honestly don't know the answer to that question. But I would reason it out to believe that if the rs is always true, and she says the same thing in normal forward speech at the same time, I guess it would be true?
My head hurts from thinking too much:crazy:

[mommya]

Okay, I really should be sleeping since I worked graveyard last night. The thing is, I just had to stay up and do reversals. I listened to the reversals on the program I downloaded and couldn't tear myself away. There is so much that I've heard in the reverse of these interviews. I started with the first interview and made two video clips. The first is real short, 30 secs, but it seems so clear to me what she says. (except maybe the first word or two). Either "not once, never, ever seen" Or "not lost, never, ever seen." The second is a little longer 1:30 min. or so. I can make out the beginning of a phrase and the rest is there but I dont know what she is saying. Speaking of meeting Zanny, she states "I met her through..." She says who but I can't make it out. "I met her through..." is in her forward and reverse. Maybe someone here can fill in the blanks for me. Also, toward the end she states "I'm not bull****ing this".

Off to bed...I shouldn't even be here!!!:crazy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDUq2NCVl-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXl4NH7xK2U

I'm getting Annie - Met her through Annie.

I will need to listen more later but I hard the Zanny in there and met through annie.

[Seranade]

Ok, I'm sorry:) I honestly don't know the answer to that question. But I would reason it out to believe that if the rs is always true, and she says the same thing in normal forward speech at the same time, I guess it would be true?
My head hurts from thinking too much:crazy:

It would make sense if that were the case.

And I definitely understand the head hurting due to this case.:bang:

[sleuthmommy]

I hear something like (and this is broken up but) Amy Logan?..............I never.............I'm not BSing that...........

[keeponsearching]

The first myspace i Heard something like Sawgrass scene.

The second one. I did hear AMy logan..... And I did hear bull****ting. It was very clear to me on the regular speed. Than . through ________ . I can't figure out that word.. Either Missouri or something that rymes with it.

Anyone notice the det. voice is so mumbled.. I cant get a word out of them except the end. I heard how long did you know.

[keeponsearching]

So the beginning and the end of the the det. Is the same words? Does anyone else see that?

I also hear. met through ________

Its a word but its not sticking with me. I am going to keep listening till i get it.

[canuluvsum1unevrmet]

OK Kids, this is what i hear: I can only listen 2 the ones on youtube.

Zannys not her name, no, never not even once there is zero, no emotion left!

maybe, Im trying 2 hard 2 hear it!

[EntreNous]

The youtube clips won't play for me. Boo. :(

[MD MOMMY]

I definitely hear Logan..can't tell if it's Amy or Annie before..that is about all I got out of the last one. I can even hear the bs'ing comment darn it.

[MD MOMMY]

That was clear - "No she's not."

OMG that is the first time it was clear as day..I heard NO she's not as well..holy flippin' cow.

[newsjunkie]

I sent a link of the tapes to Shawn. He emailed me and said he would listen and let me know what he hears. (I linked him to the original released interviews)

Have you heard anything back from Shawn?

[twiggles]

Here is the third one. This is from this passage:

p. 99-100 of the transcripts talks about people who will be hurt if she continues to perpetuate her lies. Page 100, line 1, Sergeant Allen says:

"And you know what, one person could put a stop to that."

Casey's reply, p. 100, line 2:

"I been trying."

This is the reverse of her phrase "I been trying." The first is at normal speed. The second is slowed down to 80%.

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3slow.mp3

I hear something distinctive....

I listened to this last night and it sounded like "Now she nap"
Tonight it sounds like "Now she drop"

[EntreNous]

Here is the third one. This is from this passage:

p. 99-100 of the transcripts talks about people who will be hurt if she continues to perpetuate her lies. Page 100, line 1, Sergeant Allen says:

"And you know what, one person could put a stop to that."

Casey's reply, p. 100, line 2:

"I been trying."

This is the reverse of her phrase "I been trying." The first is at normal speed. The second is slowed down to 80%.

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3.mp3

http://www.hinkymeter.com/caseyanthony/reversespeech/ca3slow.mp3

I hear something distinctive....

I'm hearing...
"Now she's not"

This could make sense as a contradiction to her forward statement of "I been trying."

I have read that in reverse speech they can sometimes speak of themselves in the third person.

[tiredofthis]

Are there any new statements of Casey's that have been reversed?

[IntriguedMind]

Anyone figure maybe she says annie more so than zanni?
Perhaps annie was caylees babysitter? Based on some photos of lauren and annie at annies work with caylee I kind of thought maybe annie would be more correct.

I have to say, that i hear what everyone else says they hear, which means if you say u hear purple elephants, I do too, then someone else says they hear I shot the sheriff I hear that also! lol

[tiredofthis]

Anyone figure maybe she says annie more so than zanni?
Perhaps annie was caylees babysitter? Based on some photos of lauren and annie at annies work with caylee I kind of thought maybe annie would be more correct.

I have to say, that i hear what everyone else says they hear, which means if you say u hear purple elephants, I do too, then someone else says they hear I shot the sheriff I hear that also! lol

The power of suggestion.

[*Kat*]

So from what I am gathering from reading this thread, reversals are more subjective than anything else. You hear what you hear because of how YOUR mind translates it. So what makes the person from Backward State the authority that hears the "right" thing. Do you get my question at all? lol - I cannot seem to explain myself this week...

[Laece]

apparently, or supposedly, there is a way to interpret the backward messages in a correct way, and then once you are 'trained' to hear them, you know what you are hearing and there is only one actual answer.

could be something, could just be gobbledy-gook. i really wanted to say gobbledy-gook. thanks.

[monoxide]

Yeah I don't believe this whole thing but it is a cool concept

[*Kat*]

I don't know what to make of it but to me its fascinating & interesting to say the least. I wonder how one "trains" to interpret...

Thanks for the info!

[technicalconfusion]

Every one I've listened to sounds like everybody has marbles in their mouth.

[bobodedoo]

I don't think this has been done yet but has anyone reversed ZFG's interview with Local 6 to see what is revealed? Might be interesting. Wish I could work on this myself but I got too many things I'm juggling

[tiredofthis]

I don't think this has been done yet but has anyone reversed ZFG's interview with Local 6 to see what is revealed? Might be interesting. Wish I could work on this myself but I got too many things I'm juggling

That would be a good one.

I still don't know if there is anything to this, but it is interesting.

[curiositycat]

Does anyone know if there are any reversals of GA saying "The body in my granddaughters car is not my granddaughter"???
Would love to hear it if anyone has a link.

[PinkyPoo]

Does any of this bring you any closer to knowing what happened to Caylee? Does it give any of you a clue of where she is?

[tiredofthis]

Does any of this bring you any closer to knowing what happened to Caylee? Does it give any of you a clue of where she is?

No, but it is interesting. I don't think anything useful will be found.

[bobodedoo]

Does any of this bring you any closer to knowing what happened to Caylee? Does it give any of you a clue of where she is?

Just to quote alot of other posters on these threads .... "leave no stone unturned" ......

[MD MOMMY]

Does any of this bring you any closer to knowing what happened to Caylee? Does it give any of you a clue of where she is?

I will be interested to see later on if any of the information on the reversals is correct. I can't believe some of the things I am hearing.

[Laece]

Does anyone know if there are any reversals of GA saying "The body in my granddaughters car is not my granddaughter"???
Would love to hear it if anyone has a link.

yeah, me too. even forward that was weird to say on so many levels.

did he just stammer out of confusion, or what the heck?

[sleuthmommy]

I will be interested to see later on if any of the information on the reversals is correct. I can't believe some of the things I am hearing.

Same here.

[Laece]

I will be interested to see later on if any of the information on the reversals is correct. I can't believe some of the things I am hearing.

you 'can't believe it' in a sense that you don't believe it, or you can't believe it in a 'that's incredible and amazing' kind of way? just out of curiosity.

[keeponsearching]

I have read that reversals can be overlapping and layered. That is why it is possible for different people to hear different things.
This page explains it quite well...
http://ken-welch.com/ReversedSpeech.html

Thank You Alyzabeth. This really helps explain why we all hear different things. ANd why if you have the right equipment it works better.

[momtective]

I reversed the last few minutes of interview one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf1FJQfu7r4
listen and let me know what you think. I could be way off but I had fun playing with audacity anyway.

[ShawnHS]

I have reviewed the two most recent audio tapes released by the police with Casey. I have posted what I’ve found for reverse speech on my website. There doesn’t appear to be a smoking gun revealed by Casey, but that is not to say I couldn’t have missed any reversals. There are a couple of reversals that may be of interest. Disclaimer notice: These reversals are what I hear. I don’t proclaim to be an expert on finding speech reversals, but after approximately 8 yrs. of being a student of reverse speech, I would hope that I can isolate them from the gibberish with some degree of accuracy.

While listening to the second audio in particular, the investigators seem to be almost badgering her to try and evoke information from her. They would also repeat the same question without giving her a chance to answer. When she does answer they interrupt her. I’m sure they are good at their job, although it does not appear to me that method of questioning was going to be effective in her case judging from one of the reversals from Casey when she says "I wish you wouldn't yell it on me now. (http://www.backwardstate.com/i_wish_you_wouldnt_yell_it_on_me_now.mp3)"

There are at least 4 times were she can be heard to say that she is scared/petrified. I believe based on her reverse speech analysis that she is scared to her core. A reversal from the afternoon interview at Universal she says “I fear. That's fair. (http://www.backwardstate.com/i_fear_thats_fair.mp3)” (“Fair” by definition in this case may mean; free from dishonesty. In other words, she appears to be indicating she is truly scared.) The question is what could she be so deeply afraid of that she did not contact police? In another reversal from the Universal interview, she says “Reason is the boy. (http://www.backwardstate.com/reason_is_the_boy.mp3)” (There is crosstalk with an investigator, and it may take a couple of times of listening through it to differentiate the two of them. It is interesting to me that in her reversal she appears to be anticipating a question from the investigator when he simultaneously says in reverse speech “Don't see a reason. What's the deal?”) Later on that evening in a phone call to her family from jail, there is a reversal from Casey where she says “Boys did this. (http://www.backwardstate.com/boys_did_this_warned_me_against_the_law_help_you.m p3)” Followed by “Warned me against the law help you.” From the Universal interview: “Here I hand out an offer, but I'm not with you. (http://www.backwardstate.com/here_i_hand_out_an_offer_but_im_not_with_you.mp3)” Could it be she wants help, but doesn't want to appear to be helping the police? Another reversal from the Universal interview: “When I give you my proof, they'll do sh**. (http://www.backwardstate.com/when_i_give_you_my_proof_theyll_do_****.mp3)” "They" - seems to be obvious that there is more than one other person she is afraid of as well as what they may do, and the other reversals combined indicate males. By her saying “Boy(s)” would that be a clue to being males that are close to her by age? Also more specifically, could at least one of them be involved in some way with what she would consider to be a relationship with pornography, when she says in a reversal “Hold out on that porn dealer (http://www.backwardstate.com/hold_out_on_that_porn_dealer.mp3)”?

During the phone call to her family from jail there is a reversal from Casey where she says. “Bring in my father (http://www.backwardstate.com/bring_in_my_father.mp3)”. Could there have been a different outcome to how things have progressed if she were to have talked alone with her father at that time?

In my opinion based upon her reversals overall, she is very, very scared. In another reversal she says “They are still scared when they’re not guilty (http://www.backwardstate.com/they_are_still_scared_when_theyre_not_guilty.mp3)… in all the terror (http://www.backwardstate.com/in_all_the_terror.mp3)”. Reverse speech is known to occur in the third person. In the forward speech she is referencing her boyfriend Tony. Does that mean he knows what has happened, and is also too afraid to come forward? Why has he been so media shy?


During the conversation with her friend, the friend wants Casey to keep talking with her. In Casey's reversal at that point she says "Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere. (http://www.backwardstate.com/just_to_show_that_im_the_killer_then_it_goes_to_no where.mp3)" Notice she says "the killer". At that time the public only knew that Caylee was missing. There has been no previous conversation, that is indicated by the tapes released, about Caylee being killed. This reversal appears to reveal at that time not only that is Caylee deceased, but Casey is not the one responsible.

It may be said that Casey is guilty of many things, but my hallucination based upon an overall theme of her reversals is she is not the killer of her daughter.

I think Detective Allen’s speech reversal say it all when he says “It's a tragedy of hell. (http://www.backwardstate.com/its_a_tragedy_of_hell.mp3)”


All of the most recent reverse speech found on Casey can be heard from the following link: Casey Anthony (http://www.backwardstate.com/backward_state_website_034.htm)


Below are all of the current speech reversals from Casey:

Never the Sawgrass scene.
I fear. That's fair.
You capture my issues.
Here I hand out an offer, but I'm not with you.
I don't attempt to ask what you value.
Reason is the boy.
Not going to add to the fire.
I wish you wouldn't yell it on me now.
Well you are so positive, then get out of here.
When I give you my proof, they'll do ****.
I still love her.
Must see the involvement. I'm the one choice.
Boys did this. Warned me against the law help you.
Not this guilty.
No one hear what necessary.
They are still scared when they're not guilty...
...In all the terror.
I'm helping guard you.
He wouldn't take it.
There's the whole audience.
Bring in my father.
Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere.
Had to stay low.
They call me shadow.
We could actually expand on that.
Daddy says this doesn't feel good.
I did not foresee it happening.
The cell phone's trashed.
Carmen mishandled it.
I'm not the despot.
I had nothing else to do. I figured would say hi.
Wishing had the money.
Hold out on that porn dealer.
Just kill. The nature in that faggot.
That guy not what I need.

[Recovering-Lurker]

[QUOTE=ShawnHS;2691835][FONT=Arial]I have reviewed the two most recent audio tapes released by the police with Casey. I have posted what I’ve found for reverse speech on my website. There doesn’t appear to be a smoking gun revealed by Casey, but that is not to say I couldn’t have missed any reversals.[QUOTE]

*Respectfully snipped.*

Very interesting. Thanks for doing this. I'm sure it was a lot of work.

[Seranade]

Shawn-

By her saying “Boy(s)” would that be a clue to being males that are close to her by age?

Yes, Casey seems to have consistently called young men her age "boys".

[gardenhart]

I have reviewed the two most recent audio tapes released by the police with Casey. I have posted what I’ve found for reverse speech on my website. There doesn’t appear to be a smoking gun revealed by Casey, but that is not to say I couldn’t have missed any reversals. There are a couple of reversals that may be of interest. Disclaimer notice: These reversals are what I hear. I don’t proclaim to be an expert on finding speech reversals, but after approximately 8 yrs. of being a student of reverse speech, I would hope that I can isolate them from the gibberish with some degree of accuracy.

While listening to the second audio in particular, the investigators seem to be almost badgering her to try and evoke information from her. They would also repeat the same question without giving her a chance to answer. When she does answer they interrupt her. I’m sure they are good at their job, although it does not appear to me that method of questioning was going to be effective in her case judging from one of the reversals from Casey when she says "I wish you wouldn't yell it on me now. (http://www.backwardstate.com/i_wish_you_wouldnt_yell_it_on_me_now.mp3)"

There are at least 4 times were she can be heard to say that she is scared/petrified. I believe based on her reverse speech analysis that she is scared to her core. A reversal from the afternoon interview at Universal she says “I fear. That's fair. (http://www.backwardstate.com/i_fear_thats_fair.mp3)” (“Fair” by definition in this case may mean; free from dishonesty. In other words, she appears to be indicating she is truly scared.) The question is what could she be so deeply afraid of that she did not contact police? In another reversal from the Universal interview, she says “Reason is the boy. (http://www.backwardstate.com/reason_is_the_boy.mp3)” (There is crosstalk with an investigator, and it may take a couple of times of listening through it to differentiate the two of them. It is interesting to me that in her reversal she appears to be anticipating a question from the investigator when he simultaneously says in reverse speech “Don't see a reason. What's the deal?”) Later on that evening in a phone call to her family from jail, there is a reversal from Casey where she says “Boys did this. (http://www.backwardstate.com/boys_did_this_warned_me_against_the_law_help_you.m p3)” Followed by “Warned me against the law help you.” From the Universal interview: “Here I hand out an offer, but I'm not with you. (http://www.backwardstate.com/here_i_hand_out_an_offer_but_im_not_with_you.mp3)” Could it be she wants help, but doesn't want to appear to be helping the police? Another reversal from the Universal interview: “When I give you my proof, they'll do sh**. (http://www.backwardstate.com/when_i_give_you_my_proof_theyll_do_****.mp3)” "They" - seems to be obvious that there is more than one other person she is afraid of as well as what they may do, and the other reversals combined indicate males. By her saying “Boy(s)” would that be a clue to being males that are close to her by age? Also more specifically, could at least one of them be involved in some way with what she would consider to be a relationship with pornography, when she says in a reversal “Hold out on that porn dealer (http://www.backwardstate.com/hold_out_on_that_porn_dealer.mp3)”?

During the phone call to her family from jail there is a reversal from Casey where she says. “Bring in my father (http://www.backwardstate.com/bring_in_my_father.mp3)”. Could there have been a different outcome to how things have progressed if she were to have talked alone with her father at that time?

In my opinion based upon her reversals overall, she is very, very scared. In another reversal she says “They are still scared when they’re not guilty (http://www.backwardstate.com/they_are_still_scared_when_theyre_not_guilty.mp3)… in all the terror (http://www.backwardstate.com/in_all_the_terror.mp3)”. Reverse speech is known to occur in the third person. In the forward speech she is referencing her boyfriend Tony. Does that mean he knows what has happened, and is also too afraid to come forward? Why has he been so media shy?


During the conversation with her friend, the friend wants Casey to keep talking with her. In Casey's reversal at that point she says "Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere. (http://www.backwardstate.com/just_to_show_that_im_the_killer_then_it_goes_to_no where.mp3)" Notice she says "the killer". At that time the public only knew that Caylee was missing. There has been no previous conversation, that is indicated by the tapes released, about Caylee being killed. This reversal appears to reveal at that time not only that is Caylee deceased, but Casey is not the one responsible.

It may be said that Casey is guilty of many things, but my hallucination based upon an overall theme of her reversals is she is not the killer of her daughter.

I think Detective Allen’s speech reversal say it all when he says “It's a tragedy of hell. (http://www.backwardstate.com/its_a_tragedy_of_hell.mp3)”


All of the most recent reverse speech found on Casey can be heard from the following link: Casey Anthony (http://www.backwardstate.com/backward_state_website_034.htm)


Below are all of the current speech reversals from Casey:

Never the Sawgrass scene.
I fear. That's fair.
You capture my issues.
Here I hand out an offer, but I'm not with you.
I don't attempt to ask what you value.
Reason is the boy.
Not going to add to the fire.
I wish you wouldn't yell it on me now.
Well you are so positive, then get out of here.
When I give you my proof, they'll do ****.
I still love her.
Must see the involvement. I'm the one choice.
Boys did this. Warned me against the law help you.
Not this guilty.
No one hear what necessary.
They are still scared when they're not guilty...
...In all the terror.
I'm helping guard you.
He wouldn't take it.
There's the whole audience.
Bring in my father.
Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere.
Had to stay low.
They call me shadow.
We could actually expand on that.
Daddy says this doesn't feel good.
I did not foresee it happening.
The cell phone's trashed.
Carmen mishandled it.
I'm not the despot.
I had nothing else to do. I figured would say hi.
Wishing had the money.
Hold out on that porn dealer.
Just kill. The nature in that faggot.
That guy not what I need.

Shawn, why are you interpreting "Just to show that I'm the killer" as her saying she's not the killer? I would interpret that as an admission that she's the killer. And I would interpret boys as the reason, not the killers. Many here have suggested if she killed Caylee, it was so she would be free to pursue her boyfriends or if it was accidental, it was so she could party with her boyfriends.

I posted earlier there is a porn dealer in this case - that a porn dealer has been linked in the thread on financial issues to the "charity" that is putting up the reward for finding Caylee alive. I posted the link to the relevant page in that earlier post.

I just wanted to add the investigator's technique makes perfect sense. They interrupt when she starts to voice the same lies. When I was a political reporter, I often used the same technique - repeating the question and interrupting answers that weren't relevant - when interviewing a politician who was non-answering a question.

[Hailiejade77]

Shawn has backwards speech of Caylee reading her book too. Poor little baby. Her voice is so sweet! :(

[ShawnHS]

Shawn, why are you interpreting "Just to show that I'm the killer" as her saying she's not the killer? I would interpret that as an admission that she's the killer.
Your taking it out of context. The rest of that reversal is "...Then it goes nowhere". According to her words, a conversation with her friend could only be worthy of advancing if Casey were "the killer". Her other reversals would have to be discounted to make your statement true. Overall each reversal seems to me to build upon, and support each other as Casey not being "the killer".

Many here have suggested if she killed Caylee, it was so she would be free to pursue her boyfriends or if it was accidental, it was so she could party with her boyfriends.
Maybe so. Does that make it true? I'm not seeing in her reversals where she indicates direct involvement. Nor motive.

I posted earlier there is a porn dealer in this case - that a porn dealer has been linked in the thread on financial issues to the "charity" that is putting up the reward for finding Caylee alive. I posted the link to the relevant page in that earlier post.
I find that interesting. Has it be shown that Casey has had direct contact with this person? There is also another person that as been floated that seems to have an interest in porn: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=296121432
I'm not saying this person is involved, but his interests listed on his page may be an example of someone that she would consider to be involved with porn.

I just wanted to add the investigator's technique makes perfect sense. They interrupt when she starts to voice the same lies. When I was a political reporter, I often used the same technique - repeating the question and interrupting answers that weren't relevant - when interviewing a politician who was non-answering a question.
Yes, I agree the technique is a good pattern interrupt. That technique did not work on her, and is evident that it wouldn't by her reversal(s).

To make a comparison to sales techniques. Not everyone is motivated to buy something for the same reason(s). Some people can be motivated towards the pleasures a product will give them, and buy. Some people are motivated away from the pain of not having a product, and buy. Casey had mentioned several times that she was afraid. What would happen if for example they stopped and asked, with the vast resources available to the police, what could they do to help her feel that she and her family would be safe from anyone that may be involved with Caylee's disappearance?

[Seranade]

Shawn-

From the Universal interview: “Here I hand out an offer, but I'm not with you.” Could it be she wants help, but doesn't want to appear to be helping the police?

This is extremely interesting. If she is afraid for her or Caylee's life, she would indeed want to help the police without appearing to do so.

In fact, all of your reversals tend to bolster my theory of the case.

[gardenhart]

Your taking it out of context. The rest of that reversal is "...Then it goes nowhere". According to her words, a conversation with her friend could only be worthy of advancing if Casey were "the killer". Her other reversals would have to be discounted to make your statement true. Overall each reversal seems to me to build upon, and support each other as Casey not being "the killer".


Maybe so. Does that make it true? I'm not seeing in her reversals where she indicates direct involvement. Nor motive.


I find that interesting. Has it be shown that Casey has had direct contact with this person? There is also another person that as been floated that seems to have an interest in porn: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=296121432
I'm not saying this person is involved, but his interests listed on his page may be an example of someone that she would consider to be involved with porn.


Yes, I agree the technique is a good pattern interrupt. That technique did not work on her, and is evident that it wouldn't by her reversal(s).

To make a comparison to sales techniques. Not everyone is motivated to buy something for the same reason(s). Some people can be motivated towards the pleasures a product will give them, and buy. Some people are motivated away from the pain of not having a product, and buy. Casey had mentioned several times that she was afraid. What would happen if for example they stopped and asked, with the vast resources available to the police, what could they do to help her feel that she and her family would be safe from anyone that may be involved with Caylee's disappearance?

I still don't understand, Shawn. I wasn't ignoring the rest of that quote. I take it to mean that she is the killer and the search for Caylee will go nowhere. It certainly has, thanks to her lack of cooperation with the police.

I suppose in the Land of Grand Denial where the entire family appears to reside she could convince herself she wasn't a killer if the baby was killed accidentally.

But I still don't understand the process by which you conclude that this statement says the opposite of "I am the killer."

As far as the porn dealer goes, I would urge you to read the material in the financial thread. It's pretty complicated and best understood by reading the posts in that thread.

As far as the interview technique goes, of course it doesn't always work. Some people are going to lie and avoid the question no matter what. I know it always told me a lot about the person being interviewed whether they answered or continued to avoid the question.

That was a pretty effective interview and I think it tells you a lot about Casey that she continued to lie even when confronted with her previous lies.

I hope you understand I'm not criticizing what you wrote. I simply don't understand how you arrived at your conclusions.

[idlewild]

Hi, new here...first post.

Any chance you think Carmen mishandled it could be either:
car, men mishandled it.
or car men mishandled it.

As in, men/man mishandled the car and how it should have been dealt with, OR that men related to cars mishandled the situation? The psychic Kimmie Zapf mentions a car parts guy here I believe:
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7328004&version=3&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1I

I find this all very interesting.

Thanks,
idlewild

[Hisimage]

I reversed the last few minutes of interview one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf1FJQfu7r4
listen and let me know what you think. I could be way off but I had fun playing with audacity anyway.

Im no expert at this . Half the time I hear what others hear after They have alerted me to what they heard. But on this link, please will others of you tell me what you hear about1:22 in the reverse. Because I think I hear something, but I want to be sure. I think its about the time of the forward something like I want my daughter back.
I won't tell you yet what I think I hear, but it scares me more.

[idlewild]

I can hear "granmother was an issue" and then something about "sign in sheet"

then listening again I get something about "help holding" and "sick" maybe "knee jerked"

again I listened:
"sick. I'm not." "I brought Emily" ..."help...hold...sick."

Not sure this helped you though.

[Jclem1979]

I thought I heard "where's Caylee" and then "sick".

[Hisimage]

I could swear I hear something like:
eaiser if shes missing?

[Marina2]

I didn't get past the first five minutes of the Universal interview and found two.
This is what I hear.
The first reversal is the detective speaking. On forward he states "We need to find out from you..."
Reversed it says "We're gonna find out..." I can't make out the rest of his sentence.
In the second one the detective states that everything Casey says is a lie including where Caylee is right now. Casey's response reversed states "...that was sad." Let me know if there is anything you hear instead. This is very fascinating. I'm going to listen to more of the interview. My family thinks I'm nuts.:crazy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KliHMKU52QE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHtjtXyN2vM

ETA: Both of these reversals include more words in the phrase but I can't tell what is being said.

[Michelle623]

Okay, I really should be sleeping since I worked graveyard last night. The thing is, I just had to stay up and do reversals. I listened to the reversals on the program I downloaded and couldn't tear myself away. There is so much that I've heard in the reverse of these interviews. I started with the first interview and made two video clips. The first is real short, 30 secs, but it seems so clear to me what she says. (except maybe the first word or two). Either "not once, never, ever seen" Or "not lost, never, ever seen." The second is a little longer 1:30 min. or so. I can make out the beginning of a phrase and the rest is there but I dont know what she is saying. Speaking of meeting Zanny, she states "I met her through..." She says who but I can't make it out. "I met her through..." is in her forward and reverse. Maybe someone here can fill in the blanks for me. Also, toward the end she states "I'm not bull****ing this".

Off to bed...I shouldn't even be here!!!:crazy:\



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDUq2NCVl-M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXl4NH7xK2U


I hear "under rocks and logs at the wall of sea" Or "Indian Rocks and logs at the wall, see?''

Either way, for me at least, I hear "rocks and logs" most clearly. Who knows? It's very interesting, if nothing else.

[Laece]

Im no expert at this . Half the time I hear what others hear after They have alerted me to what they heard. But on this link, please will others of you tell me what you hear about1:22 in the reverse. Because I think I hear something, but I want to be sure. I think its about the time of the forward something like I want my daughter back.
I won't tell you yet what I think I hear, but it scares me more.

i heard something at the exact time that to me sounded like something about gambling being an issue.

[MD MOMMY]

you 'can't believe it' in a sense that you don't believe it, or you can't believe it in a 'that's incredible and amazing' kind of way? just out of curiosity.

I meant it like I can't believe that I'm hearing actual words from people speaking backwards..I've heard of this before but never actually listened to anything..it's freaky but in a cool way.

[AZRiverRat]

Im no expert at this . Half the time I hear what others hear after They have alerted me to what they heard. But on this link, please will others of you tell me what you hear about1:22 in the reverse. Because I think I hear something, but I want to be sure. I think its about the time of the forward something like I want my daughter back.
I won't tell you yet what I think I hear, but it scares me more.


I guess I'm just evil....Im sick of it....sick.

IMO

[AZRiverRat]

i heard something at the exact time that to me sounded like something about gambling being an issue.

The hammer seems to keep coming up. I heard it in the reversals more than once.

[AZRiverRat]

I hear "under rocks and logs at the wall of sea" Or "Indian Rocks and logs at the wall, see?''

Either way, for me at least, I hear "rocks and logs" most clearly. Who knows? It's very interesting, if nothing else.

Indian rocks would be "petrified".

[ShawnHS]

I still don't understand, Shawn. I wasn't ignoring the rest of that quote. I take it to mean that she is the killer and the search for Caylee will go nowhere...

...But I still don't understand the process by which you conclude that this statement says the opposite of "I am the killer."
The reversal by Casey is "Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere. (http://www.backwardstate.com/just_to_show_that_im_the_killer_then_it_goes_to_no where.mp3)" You first quoted it as "Just to show that I'm the killer", and then "I'm the killer." Each time you shorten it you change its meaning. The forward conversation is with her friend Kristina. She wants Casey to talk with her about what's going on with Caylee if she gets Tony's phone number from Lee. Casey does not want to talk to her about it. (She firsts indicates why by this reversal "I'm helping guard you." (http://www.backwardstate.com/im_helping_guard_you.mp3) (Crosstalk with Kristina).) As Kristina persists in talking with her that is when Casey's reversal is indicating that the conversation will be an effort in futility. She is not going to talk with Kristina about Caylee because she feels she that would protect Kristina. As far as Casey is concerned, the conversation needs to be about "the killer" if it were to continue.

You said "I would interpret that as an admission that she's the killer. And I would interpret boys as the reason, not the killers." For that to be true you would have to negate all the other reversals below:
Reason is the boy. (The conversation forward is the question of why she did not call police. If she is "the killer", then wouldn't her reason for not calling the police be because of that, not another uninvolved person? It would seem to me that this would have been a good point for a reversal to reference herself.)
When I give you my proof, they'll do ****.
Boys did this. Warned me against the law help you.
Not this guilty.
No one hear what necessary.
They are still scared when they're not guilty...
...In all the terror.
Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere.
I'm not the despot.
Hold out on that porn dealer.
Just kill. The nature in that faggot.
That guy not what I need. (If Casey is "the killer", and not the one she is referencing as the porn dealer, and "the reason" she did it was for boys, why would she say this reversal?)


As far as the porn dealer goes, I would urge you to read the material in the financial thread. It's pretty complicated and best understood by reading the posts in that thread.

I have read through it. I can not see where, beyond speculation, Casey has had a direct connection with this person. If I missed something, and she has, it would be very interesting to me.

I hope you understand I'm not criticizing what you wrote. I simply don't understand how you arrived at your conclusions.
Dittos

[1st time blogger]

WOWZEER.... this thread and the whole reversal stuff has just blown my mind!!
After reading the whole thread and listening, I downloaded Audacity and my kids and I started giving it a try. My son has just started hunting and is planning to go into the tree stand tomorrow, he's tried several times already with no success. I asked him what he was going to do tomorrow and he said "hopefully kill a deer"...... in reverse he said "I doubt it" really clear. really creepy. I'm like that other poster who was instantly hooked. Interesting thread!!!!!

[gardenhart]

The reversal by Casey is "Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere. (http://www.backwardstate.com/just_to_show_that_im_the_killer_then_it_goes_to_no where.mp3)" You first quoted it as "Just to show that I'm the killer", and then "I'm the killer." Each time you shorten it you change its meaning. The forward conversation is with her friend Kristina. She wants Casey to talk with her about what's going on with Caylee if she gets Tony's phone number from Lee. Casey does not want to talk to her about it. (She firsts indicates why by this reversal "I'm helping guard you." (http://www.backwardstate.com/im_helping_guard_you.mp3) (Crosstalk with Kristina).) As Kristina persists in talking with her that is when Casey's reversal is indicating that the conversation will be an effort in futility. She is not going to talk with Kristina about Caylee because she feels she that would protect Kristina. As far as Casey is concerned, the conversation needs to be about "the killer" if it were to continue.

You said "I would interpret that as an admission that she's the killer. And I would interpret boys as the reason, not the killers." For that to be true you would have to negate all the other reversals below:
Reason is the boy. (The conversation forward is the question of why she did not call police. If she is "the killer", then wouldn't her reason for not calling the police be because of that, not another uninvolved person? It would seem to me that this would have been a good point for a reversal to reference herself.)
When I give you my proof, they'll do ****.
Boys did this. Warned me against the law help you.
Not this guilty.
No one hear what necessary.
They are still scared when they're not guilty...
...In all the terror.
Just to show that I'm the killer. Then it goes to nowhere.
I'm not the despot.
Hold out on that porn dealer.
Just kill. The nature in that faggot.
That guy not what I need. (If Casey is "the killer", and not the one she is referencing as the porn dealer, and "the reason" she did it was for boys, why would she say this reversal?)


I have read through it. I can not see where, beyond speculation, Casey has had a direct connection with this person. If I missed something, and she has, it would be very interesting to me.


Dittos

I was shortening the quote because I see those as separate statements and to show what I see as the most relevant statement. I understand what you're saying but that's my writing style and me honing in on what I saw as the crucial point.

So is every reverse statement is to be taken as being relevant to what was being said when it's not reversed? I didn't know that. I know my thoughts aren't always following what I'm talking about but maybe that's just me. LOL

And Casey certainly does have a habit of responding in odd ways, answering questions that haven't been asked for example.

BTW, if I could make a suggestion, I'd love to see someone reverse some of her nonsense statements. Not sure what to call them, they're not quite malapropisms. She often uses words and phrases that really make no sense at all, perhaps trying to sound like she has a better vocabulary? For example, when she tells police she has "perspective ideas" about where to look. I guess I'm hoping they'll make more sense in reverse than they do in normal speech. LOL

I wonder too whether our perspective changes what we hear? I have listened to several of the reversals posted by other members here and in most of them I hear nothing. In one, however, what I heard was "me evil ... sick ... sick."

[ShawnHS]

WOWZEER.... this thread and the whole reversal stuff has just blown my mind!!
... My son has just started hunting and is planning to go into the tree stand tomorrow, he's tried several times already with no success. I asked him what he was going to do tomorrow and he said "hopefully kill a deer"...... in reverse he said "I doubt it" really clear. really creepy. ... This is something that I would like to know your opinion on. Do you, or more importantly your son, believe the reversal is accurate as to how he truly feels about the outcome of the hunting trip?

[Theonly1]

I am interested in trying to capture some of the infamous "blow up" confrontations on backwards speech. I have the audio of CA when she tells one of the grandma protestors (paraphrased) "I'm not giving up on my child. [...] Every day God is telling me to look for my granddaughter..." Running it backwards on ProTools 7.1 at the 2:10 - 2:60 mark I heard many strange things. I'm not sure how to post it here. Since I'm no "pro" at ProTools I have to run it backwards by hand. I have the file running forwards. Can anyone run it backwards for me?
T

I also have never done an attachment here and not sure if I'm allowed or able or whatnot.

[Theonly1]

The hammer seems to keep coming up. I heard it in the reversals more than once.

creepy creepy CREEPY! I heard "hammer" twice in a different reversal I'm working on tonight! Twice in one statement!

And mind you, I did not think "hammers" have ANYTHING to do with this case.

[ShawnHS]

...So is every reverse statement is to be taken as being relevant to what was being said when it's not reversed?... Not as a golden rule. People can be thinking of one thing and talking about another. One example of that is a bit humorous. It is a speech reversal that David Oates of reversespeech.com found on Paris Hilton while she was being interviewed by Larry King after she was released from jail: And I can Kiss that camera man (http://www.reversespeech.com/rev/paris-and-can-kiss-that-camera-man.Mp3)

[1st time blogger]

This is something that I would like to know your opinion on. Do you, or more importantly your son, believe the reversal is accurate as to how he truly feels about the outcome of the hunting trip? Yes, because he has tried this hunting thing many times with absolutely no success, he really doesn't think he's going to see/shoot a deer, but he still has hopes! He says he feels the reversal is accurate.

[RoseRed]

I would really really love to hear the ZG interview reversed.

[ShawnHS]

Yes, because he has tried this hunting thing many times with absolutely no success, he really doesn't think he's going to see/shoot a deer, but he still has hopes! He says he feels the reversal is accurate.
With my experiences with reverse speech I felt certain that would be yours, and more importantly his response. I wanted people who are reading this that are skeptical/cynical to see a simple example of the validity, and accuracy of reverse speech. My question for them to think about is, if reverse speech occurs during casual conversation and are accurate,wouldn't the same hold true for situations of such a serious nature as in the reverse speech that has been documented on Casey?

[icherish]

I've listened to some of these recordings. While it is freaky, I don't think they reveal a hidden message. I really don't hear "words" anyway; just distorted sounds that sound like they could be words.

It's like clouds in the sky might look like something. Some people have seen Jesus on a potato chip. You think you're seeing the actual idea you're thinking, but it's not real. It's an optical illusion. These backward recordings are audio illusions.

[ShawnHS]

I found more reverse speech from Casey from the 911 call on Sept. 18, 2008. One may be of particular interest. This is what I hear:

When I heal the past, this won't be seen as the message. (http://www.backwardstate.com/when_i_heal_the_past_this_wont_be_seen_as_the_mess age.mp3)

Could this mean she is planning on talking about what has happened to Caylee?

This reversal occurs just as Casey is describing to the operator about George and Cindy getting into a confrontation with the group looking to get their face on the news.

[AZRiverRat]

Thanks Shawn!
I enjoy your posts and the reversals are quite interesting!

I heard "Thank you the possibility"....The rest wasnt so clear.

Im stuck on forward where she says "You need to send vehicles IMMEDIATELY"
and "Please send as many people as you possibly can"

"I dont know if any weapons are involved".......can you reverse that statement???

[ShawnHS]

In the interview at Universal one the investigators is trying to make sense of all the lies by offering a scenario of how Casey's parents might feel if she were to take Caylee, and give Caylee to her dad. Casey at that point states that Caylee's dad is dead. But in her reverse speech she says "I don't attempt to ask what you value." (http://www.backwardstate.com/i_dont_attempt_to_ask_what_you_value.mp3)

This seems, by her reversal, to be a touchy subject that she really does not think should be talked about for some reason. I forget where I saw the news report on Friday. But there was the possibility being floated that Caylee's dad may be someone she was texting a mystery message to that is in the military. She was indicating she had something to talk with him about, and wanted to fly to CA to talk to him in person. I think it was also mentioned in the news report that Caylee's dad may be a former guard from Universal. Also in the interview she says something about wanting to go to Universal because she has been going to places that are famialr to her. Could this reversal be reflecting the fact that Caylee's dad is not dead, and part of that familiarity of Universal as a connection to Caylee invloves the former guard at universal?

[Salem]

I found more reverse speech from Casey from the 911 call on Sept. 18, 2008. One may be of particular interest. This is what I hear:

When I heal the past, this won't be seen as the message. (http://www.backwardstate.com/when_i_heal_the_past_this_wont_be_seen_as_the_mess age.mp3)

Could this mean she is planning on talking about what has happened to Caylee?

This reversal occurs just as Casey is describing to the operator about George and Cindy getting into a confrontation with the group looking to get their face on the news.


Or is it just an acknowledgement of her responsibility for the situation her parents found themselves in?

Salem

I don't think this girl is ever going to talk.

[BAHD]

When Casey is asked who the babysitter was, she responded by saying "Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez". If you reverse the name it does say "Zenaida Fernandez" but I didn't hear the Gonzalez.

[concentric]

This is very interesting I must admit. I have a question, however:

Most people's vocabularies are not extensive enough to allow for a unique phrase when said backwards, right?

For example, a common word would be "alive." I believe that anyone hearing that word backwards would hear "evil."

OK, I do understand this: You have to take in the tonalities and stresses on certain letters and syllables and the repression of same making for a unique speech pattern and not only the words.

[BAHD]

This is very interesting I must admit. I have a question, however:

Most people's vocabularies are not extensive enough to allow for a unique phrase when said backwards, right?

For example, a common word would be "alive." I believe that anyone hearing that word backwards would hear "evil."

OK, I do understand this: You have to take in the tonalities and stresses on certain letters and syllables and the repression of same making for a unique speech pattern and not only the words.

It's not what the words sound like backwards, but the message that the unconscious mind sends at the same time the person is speaking. Two different people can say the same exact thing and the message in reverse will be different. It has to do with the unconscious mind and what the person is thinking at that time.

[idlewild]

In the interview at Universal one the investigators is trying to make sense of all the lies by offering a scenario of how Casey's parents might feel if she were to take Caylee, and give Caylee to her dad. Casey at that point states that Caylee's dad is dead. But in her reverse speech she says "I don't attempt to ask what you value." (http://www.backwardstate.com/i_dont_attempt_to_ask_what_you_value.mp3)

This seems, by her reversal, to be a touchy subject that she really does not think should be talked about for some reason. I forget where I saw the news report on Friday. But there was the possibility being floated that Caylee's dad may be someone she was texting a mystery message to that is in the military. She was indicating she had something to talk with him about, and wanted to fly to CA to talk to him in person. I think it was also mentioned in the news report that Caylee's dad may be a former guard from Universal. Also in the interview she says something about wanting to go to Universal because she has been going to places that are famialr to her. Could this reversal be reflecting the fact that Caylee's dad is not dead, and part of that familiarity of Universal as a connection to Caylee invloves the former guard at universal?

I might be reaching here, but this just came to mind. When she was at Universal she said she wanted to go by the security guards, or something like that. LE made a comment about it because she didn't actually stop and talk with any of them. Maybe what she wanted was for someone there to SEE HER with LE?

[Hisimage]

I might be reaching here, but this just came to mind. When she was at Universal she said she wanted to go by the security guards, or something like that. LE made a comment about it because she didn't actually stop and talk with any of them. Maybe what she wanted was for someone there to SEE HER with LE?

That is something I never would have thought of. Interesting theory. What caused you to think of that? I do like the thought though.

[Alyzabeth]

I might be reaching here, but this just came to mind. When she was at Universal she said she wanted to go by the security guards, or something like that. LE made a comment about it because she didn't actually stop and talk with any of them. Maybe what she wanted was for someone there to SEE HER with LE?
That seems to make more sense than anything else about this case.

[keeponsearching]

I might be reaching here, but this just came to mind. When she was at Universal she said she wanted to go by the security guards, or something like that. LE made a comment about it because she didn't actually stop and talk with any of them. Maybe what she wanted was for someone there to SEE HER with LE?

Good thoughts. I always thought there was more to why she went there.

[idlewild]

In looking again at the transcript, LE says something about going by security. Then KC says I wanted to come up and try to talk to security, maybe pass around her picture. Then she says later there was no purpose in coming there. I just keep thinking, even as much as she lied and dragged them around, there had to be a REASON she brought them there. Showing false addresses for the nanny is one thing, but she could have just said she worked at Universal, there was nothing to be gained in going there if she doesn't work there. It wouldn't make her lie more credible. I don't have an answer, but maybe she needed to look for someone/something or have someone see her with LE.

[raregem]

Idlewild-I think you have something there with:
Maybe, she was looking for someone.

[Pink Panther]

In looking again at the transcript, LE says something about going by security. Then KC says I wanted to come up and try to talk to security, maybe pass around her picture. Then she says later there was no purpose in coming there. I just keep thinking, even as much as she lied and dragged them around, there had to be a REASON she brought them there. Showing false addresses for the nanny is one thing, but she could have just said she worked at Universal, there was nothing to be gained in going there if she doesn't work there. It wouldn't make her lie more credible. I don't have an answer, but maybe she needed to look for someone/something or have someone see her with LE.
Well she didn't just take them to Universal. She took them to a few addresses as well. I think that she was either buying herself time to think or she was enjoying the thought that she was fooling them.

[passionflower]

On NGrace tonight a Dr. said that a piece of truth is always in a lie...........pathilogical liars........funny thing my grandma used to say........" a liar is a thief, a thief can be a murderer"..................old saying like that............KC talks in a code like talk. IMO
good work on reverse speech!

[ShawnHS]

On NGrace tonight a Dr. said that a piece of truth is always in a lie...........pathilogical liars
I listened again to the 9:41 PM call to 911 for reverse speech analysis from Casey, and I believe I've found a couple that I missed before. Although they may be difficult to hear, because of the bad audio and Casey crying, one of them may be significant as to a glimpse of what may have happened to Caylee.

When you listen to the audio she is answering the forward speech with a follow up question, but she could be responding in her speech reversal to the first question asked by the 911 operator, which is “Can you tell me a little bit of what’s going on?”

I know who has her. I tried to contact her.
Guys knocked her downstairs. Now I ruined it. (http://www.backwardstate.com/guys_knocked_her_downstairs_now_i_ruined_it.mp3)

Could "Now I ruined it." mean that she feels responsible, even though she did not do it?

In the interview at Universal she is asked "Where was she the last time you put her somewhere? Where was she?" Casey says "The last time I saw her was on those steps..."

[ShawnHS]

I listened to the interview with Jesse Grund from Geraldo Rivera on Sept. 20, 2008. There were a couple of speech reversals where he does not appear to be congruent with what he is saying forward.

He may be a nice guy, but he doesn't seem to be a knight in shining armor. If you notice in the audio Geraldo says to him "You loved Casey and you loved this baby." Jesse says "I loved Casey". He has to be redirected to comment on Caylee.

When I found out Caylee wasn’t mine it was very, it was mixed emotions for me....
It was a relief when I found out. (http://www.backwardstate.com/it_was_a_relief_when_i_found_out.mp3)

(Question: Do you think that Casey Anthony killed Caylee?)
From what I've seen from Casey's behavior, it's hard for me to actually see, the fact, seeing her do that intentionally to Caylee. Knowing Casey I just can't see it.
Her behavior's the signal. (http://www.backwardstate.com/her_behaviors_the_signal.mp3)

[BAHD]

sdavidson11 just posted this on another thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=71490&page=26

My dream went to Zenaida=Zeus=God. I checked this morning and indeed the latin meaning of Zenaida is Zeus. I do not claim to have powers of any kind. Maybe this has been said before. I feel that Caylee's location has something to do with this god theory. A church, the name of a road or someother tid bit of information. I am not computer literate but I did do a map quest for a road with Zenaida. I don't know how to check if there in a saint with that name or a church. Any help would be appreciated.

OMG, have heard this in many of the backwards talk from Casey and I thought I was hearing things. She says Zeus whenever she is refering to Zeneida.

[vickiev]

Anyone who has downloaded audacity ... How do I import one of the audo recordings into it? Cannot figure it out for the life of me! Please help!

[vickiev]

also how do you record? Audacity is confusing me!

[CarrieBean]

Anyone who has downloaded audacity ... How do I import one of the audo recordings into it? Cannot figure it out for the life of me! Please help!

I downloaded this a while ago too, but couldn't figure it out.

This stuff kind of creeps me out. It reminds me of some kind of satanic thing I remember hearing about when I was a kid. :crazy:

[vickiev]

I downloaded this a while ago too, but couldn't figure it out.

This stuff kind of creeps me out. It reminds me of some kind of satanic thing I remember hearing about when I was a kid. :crazy:

Me too! It reminds me of a movie I once saw where they play a heavy metal record backwards and it was some satanic thing.. Creepy! But at the same time, it is so interesting, and I really want to see what I could hear.. But I cannot figure it out for the life of me, even through all of the help options in google.. I hope someone will help!!

[Alyzabeth]

Me too! It reminds me of a movie I once saw where they play a heavy metal record backwards and it was some satanic thing.. Creepy! But at the same time, it is so interesting, and I really want to see what I could hear.. But I cannot figure it out for the life of me, even through all of the help options in google.. I hope someone will help!!

To import audio recordings into Audacity: File/import/audio (browse to find folder the audio is in and click open or whatever the option is)
To reverse the audio, make sure the portion you want to reverse is highlighted or the option to reverse it will not be lit up:) Highlight the portion to reverse, click the 'effect' tab and click 'reverse'.
To slow it down: Effect/change speed (I usually go with -15 to start if I feel it needs to be slowed down, but find whatever speed works best for you)

To save any part of it...highlight the portion you wish to save, then: File/export selection

To record with audacity...Hook up your mic and it will record whatever is playing through your speakers.
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I can't think of anything else right offhand, but if anyone has any questions I will answer them if I can.

[CarrieBean]

Thank you Alyzabeth! Will try it.

[vickiev]

To import audio recordings into Audacity: File/import/audio (browse to find folder the audio is in and click open or whatever the option is)
To reverse the audio, make sure the portion you want to reverse is highlighted or the option to reverse it will not be lit up:) Highlight the portion to reverse, click the 'effect' tab and click 'reverse'.
To slow it down: Effect/change speed (I usually go with -15 to start if I feel it needs to be slowed down, but find whatever speed works best for you)

To save any part of it...highlight the portion you wish to save, then: File/export selection

To record with audacity...Hook up your mic and it will record whatever is playing through your speakers.
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I can't think of anything else right offhand, but if anyone has any questions I will answer them if I can.

Thank you! But how do I actually save one of the Casey Anthony audio recordings off the internet to my computer? I can't figure it out!

[raregem]

I have read the word -HAMMER- mentioned, folks were wondering what it refers to.
From the RS dictionary I will post it's meaning. This info comes directly from the originator of RS, DAVID JOHN OATES. I regard his work with appreciation and respect.

RS dictionary term:
HAMMER (Structural) to build something; to create with force; to make a point. Trance image; a hammer.

Hope this helps.

[BAHD]

I have read the word -HAMMER- mentioned, folks were wondering what it refers to.
From the RS dictionary I will post it's meaning. This info comes directly from the originator of RS, DAVID JOHN OATES. I regard his work with appreciation and respect.

RS dictionary term:
HAMMER (Structural) to build something; to create with force; to make a point. Trance image; a hammer.

Hope this helps.

Where can I find this dictionary?

[raregem]

BAHD-
I did an internet search for SAINT ZENAIDA and wiki had something, also from a website called OCA. This is what I found on the search, ( for Saint Zenaida- using this spelling ) at www.oca.org

I am pasting, copying from the OCA site:

Martyr Zenaida (Zenais) of Tarsus, in Cilicia

Commemorated on October 11

The Martyrs Zenaida and Philonilla lived in Tarsus in Cilicia during the first century, and were related to the holy Apostle Paul. They were pious Christian women, and both of them shared a love of learning. By whatever means were available to them at that time, they acquired medical knowledge.

The two sisters left their home and settled in a cave near the city of Demetriada, where they lived in constant prayer and work. The citizens of Demetriada soon learned that there were two women doctors who gladly treated everyone who turned to them for help, yet did not require payment for their services. They also healed people's souls by converting them to Christ.

One night, some pagans went to their cave and stoned them. Sts Zenaida and Philonilla suffered martyrdom for Christ, thereby receiving incorruptible crowns of glory from the Lord.

[raregem]

lol BAHD- didn't see you online. My apologies.
David Oates' website is at : www.reversespeech.com
Very informative for more understanding to RS as explained by SHAWN HS. Thank you SHAWN for posting your insights. MUCH appreciated.
Added note: There are online studies available through Mr.Oates, as well.

[BAHD]

lol BAHD- didn't see you online. My apologies.
David Oates' website is at : www.reversespeech.com
Very informative for more understanding to RS as explained by SHAWN HS. Thank you SHAWN for posting your insights. MUCH appreciated.
Added note: There are online studies available through Mr.Oates, as well.

Very interesting, Thank you.

[Faenorwyn]

Anyone who has the software for reversals, I am requesting someone do a reversal on the video of little Caylee jibbering while looking at her book on June 15th. I'm not sure if I believe all of this, or put any stock into the reversals and such. But I'm just curious as to if any reversal might be found on Caylee's speech? I don't know where else the video can be found, but this is one place I know of that it is:

http://www.myspace.com/cayleeismissing

Thank you!

[Recovering-Lurker]

Anyone who has the software for reversals, I am requesting someone do a reversal on the video of little Caylee jibbering while looking at her book on June 15th. I'm not sure if I believe all of this, or put any stock into the reversals and such. But I'm just curious as to if any reversal might be found on Caylee's speech? I don't know where else the video can be found, but this is one place I know of that it is:

http://www.myspace.com/cayleeismissing

Thank you!

Shawn did a couple on his site.

http://www.backwardstate.com/watch_me_when_i_handle_this.mp3

http://www.backwardstate.com/are_you_recording.mp3

http://www.backwardstate.com/backward_state_website_035.htm

[Faenorwyn]

Shawn did a couple on his site.

http://www.backwardstate.com/watch_me_when_i_handle_this.mp3

http://www.backwardstate.com/are_you_recording.mp3

http://www.backwardstate.com/backward_state_website_035.htm

Very interesting! Thank you so much!

[Maddywv]

Would like to know what the most recent ones say of Casey and her brother. I mean her brother laughed at the smell in the car.

[vickiev]

If anyone knows how to use that Audacity program, or how to listen to a recording and then listen to it in reverse, please pm me, or list instructions here.. I have downloaded the audacity, but I cannot figure out how to save one of the audio files, and then bring it there, and then reverse it.. I am very confused! Always thought I was good with learning (self computer programs, but i guess I was wrong! Please, I would really appreciate any help on this!

[ShawnHS]

I found more reverse speech from Casey from the 911 call on Sept. 18, 2008. One may be of particular interest. This is what I hear:

When I heal the past, this won't be seen as the message. (http://www.backwardstate.com/when_i_heal_the_past_this_wont_be_seen_as_the_mess age.mp3)

Could this mean she is planning on talking about what has happened to Caylee?

This reversal occurs just as Casey is describing to the operator about George and Cindy getting into a confrontation with the group looking to get their face on the news.

When I found this speech reversal, I questioned if this meant she planned on talking about what happened. Yesterday a petition was filed with the court for her to be able to go out and secretly search for Caylee. I'm wondering if this is an attempt to begin doing that. There are several reversals from her indicating she is scared. One specifically states "Warned me against the law help you." If by going on her "secret" search could that be a way for her to "accidentally" find Caylee thereby not technically going to LE to help her?

[servingothers]

To expand a bit on this reverse speech example.

Since the post was made by ebrich new evidence has been released from police.This may be considered a small tidbit, but I believe it is significant as it relates to the accuracy of reverse speech.

(Question: You said you referred to it as your Black Jack?
... I only had it for probably a week, week and a half. It didn't keep its charge, so it's why I started using that other phone.
The cell phone's trashed. (http://www.backwardstate.com/the_cell_phones_trashed.mp3)
Casey had said the phone is lost, and may contain the number of the baby sitter on it that she claimed had her daughter. This speech reversal indicates the cell phone is not lost, but has been thrown away. In a reversal previous to this, Casey indicates she has never had a cell phone conversation with the baby sitter in question.


(Question: So on the Black Jack do you remember the phone number that the Black Jack was associated with?)
It was my same number. I just swapped the sim card back and forth.
Carmen mishandled it. (http://www.backwardstate.com/carmen_mishandled_it.mp3)
This was the reason why her cell phone was "trashed". Police released documents containing transcripts of potential witnesses which include a neighbor of the Anthony's that Casey had borrowed a shovel from. In the police interview, the neighbor indicates he has a seven year old daughter named "Carmen". See a copy of the transcript: Carmen (http://www.backwardstate.com/carmen.pdf)

In another example:

(Question from Lee: I'm just curious if anything has changed as far as who I can trust and those type of things?)
As far as I'm concerned here, I don't really know on that level.
Hold out on that porn dealer. (http://www.backwardstate.com/hold_out_on_that_porn_dealer.mp3)


I guess understandably just...

Just kill. The nature in that faggot. (http://www.backwardstate.com/just_kill_the_nature_in_that_faggot.mp3)


...being out of contact but...
That guy not what I need. (http://www.backwardstate.com/that_guy_not_what_i_need.mp3)

"Just kill." - Obviously a very strong statement. One may have to read between the lines to know if this was a reference specifically to Caylee. Recently reported DNA results reveal that Caylee is deceased. The second sentence of that reversal would seem to me that she may know that he has killed before, and will kill again. Is there a connection to a "porn dealer" that she is holding out on talking about?

Sounds like she is saying ----the nature of that faggot is to just kill.

[servingothers]

Who would Carmen be?

Carmen is a roomate of Tony's. Has he been interviewed? If not, I wonder why not? Nate spoke of him interacting with Caylee. Is he the one with the word "KILL" on his fingers in one of the photos>

[Seranade]

Carmen is a roomate of Tony's. Has he been interviewed? If not, I wonder why not? Nate spoke of him interacting with Caylee. Is he the one with the word "KILL" on his fingers in one of the photos>


I thought Cameron was a friend of Tony's, not a room mate? Anyway, it's interesting and I would like to know the answer to your question.

[HappyChic727]

Carmen is a roomate of Tony's. Has he been interviewed? If not, I wonder why not? Nate spoke of him interacting with Caylee. Is he the one with the word "KILL" on his fingers in one of the photos>
Cameron is one of Tony's roommates. He is in a band called Fuzzy Red Balloons. Originally, it was thought that the neighbor from whom KC borrowed a shovel had a child named Carmen but not sure if that was right or not. The guy with "kill" on his fingers is not Cameron. I only have 9 minutes left for lunch break or I'd look further into who that is.

[servingothers]

FREAKY!!!!!!!!!!!

The neighbor, the one she borrowed the shovel from, has a son named Carmen.
.................................................. .................................................. .......................


Just read it in the documents that were released.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0825/17290449.pdf

right toward the very bottom.

Cameron is a roommate of Tonys. Did the backward phrase say Carmen or Cameron?

[servingothers]

I thought Cameron was a friend of Tony's, not a room mate? Anyway, it's interesting and I would like to know the answer to your question.

Hi you are right it is Camerson and not Carmen but he is indeed a roommate. I have seen it several times. Nate was on NG and that's where I heard Nate refer to he and Cameron having conversations with Caylee.

[servingothers]

Cameron is one of Tony's roommates. He is in a band called Fuzzy Red Balloons. Originally, it was thought that the neighbor from whom KC borrowed a shovel had a child named Carmen but not sure if that was right or not. The guy with "kill" on his fingers is not Cameron. I only have 9 minutes left for lunch break or I'd look further into who that is.

Ummh. I would like to know his name. I thought it was Cameron. Forgive if I am wrong---please.?

[Amberjack]

Cameron:

Roommate of Tone's. Full Sail student
Musician, artist
From Ohio (Like the Anthony's)

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=2736501

[Amberjack]

I'm not the despot.
Hold out on that porn dealer.
Just kill. The nature in that faggot.
That guy not what I need.


I wonder if Casey's tattooed friend's other knuckles say "JUST" (KILL)

[raregem]

Regarding the RS words: KILL and FAGGOT
RS can be metaphorical in nature not just literal so I will post these two word meanings from John Oates' dictionary of RS.

KILL (Operational) to make ineffective; to permanently deactivate something. Trance image; to kill a metaphor, make it fade away, send to the mountains

FAGGOT (Multi) see Nigger; a term of disrespect; a weakened male persona; effeminate; also a homosexual. Trance image; varies


My side note:
Nigger (from Merriam-Webster dict. online ) meanings 1 and 2 refer to origin then: color in disrespect.
meaning #3: a member of a socially disadvantaged class of persons <it's time for somebody to lead all of America's niggers…all the people who feel left out of the political process — Ron Dellums>

These works from RS dict. are copywrited so, I apologize as I will not be posting anymore terms directly from his work. John Oates website (out of fairness and respect ) is : www.reversespeech.com

Also, when the RS is in third person it could be the speaker talking of his/ herself.
When the reverse confirms the forward it is considered a truthful statement.
:hourglass:

[HappyChic727]

Ummh. I would like to know his name. I thought it was Cameron. Forgive if I am wrong---please.?I think it might be Sean D then, who was supposed to be KC's best guy friend.

[ShawnHS]

Originally, it was thought that the neighbor from whom KC borrowed a shovel had a child named Carmen but not sure if that was right or not.
The neighbor has a 7 yr. old daughter named Carmen (http://www.backwardstate.com/carmen.pdf) .

[seagull65]

reposted.

I just connected something.... on the backward state site someone here linked. I find that site pretty interesting. I do understand some may not believe it. Anyways, heres the link.
http://www.backwardstate.com/backward_state_website_034.htm

part of the convo says:
So on the Black Jack do you remember the phone number that the Black Jack was associated with?

It was my same number. I just swapped the sim card back and forth.

and the backward voice says::
Carmen mishandled it.


I searched caseys friends and found a cameron.
http://www.myspace.com/camlovesdick
I think he was in a picture album someone linked last night?
He is part of a band called fuzzy red balloons.
http://www.myspace.com/fuzzyredballoons
one of their songs was linked here last week as a recent song on her playlist.
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=songHistory&friendID=10472558
Also a comment was posted on here that was from casey to the band (iirc), around the time caylee was missing that said something along the lines of "hello cute boys."

Anyways, that comment is now off their page?

I found this all interesting. And thought I'd mention it.

here is the fuzzy red balloon's page cached.
notice casey is their top friend and her comments are there
http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:xbDxjOc7gbYJ:profile.myspace.com/index.cfm%3Ffuseaction%3Duser.viewprofile%26friend id%3D395747189+fuzzyredballoons&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

here is camerons page cached. Notice Tone is a top friend
http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:u-3V_ssFp1wJ:www.myspace.com/camlovesdick+camlovesdick&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

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Yes, wasn't Cameron one of the friends of TL who appeared on NG show earlier on? I do recall the one other friend (Nate? or who was it) also describing on the NG show how he and Cameron were once sleeping on TL's couch and little Caylee was playing her little drum pad and singing "wake up so and so, wake up Cameron...." So Cameron definitely was present in the apartment enough to be sleeping on the couch sometimes and for Caylee to know him, whether he was a roommate or just one of the people coming and going.

A couple of Carmens have also been mentioned, one apparently connected with the neighbor who claimed KC had borrowed his shovel, and one of the other KC friends who was interviewed had a relative named Carmen (and even one named Z, if I recall correctly.) Details of that can be found on the old KM thread though I don't know where that is anymore.)

Although it is very interesting, I can't put much stock in the "backward speech", for one thing because we don't know at all how the recordings are processed in order to produce the backward audio, and secondly because the interpreters then also apply a lexicon of "meanings" for various words. But still, it is interesting to listen to!

I don't know the name of the guy with "kill" tattooed on his fingers. I thought the guy in the pictures (with the stand up hair) was DW who ran DBC Entertainment or whatever it was, but later I heard that that is Sean, supposedly KC's best guy friend. Can someone clarify for me, is Sean (of Sean and Annie) indeed the person with the stand up hair, the one grabbing KC's chest in the one picture. Is he the same person as Derrick W? i.e. does he go by Sean but that's his full name? or are they two separate people? And who is the person with KILL tattooed on his fingers. Thanks :)

[seagull65]

Sorry, just answered my own question, DW was a different person, not the person grabbing KC's chest in the one picture (I had heard earlier in the case that that was DW, now I read on the threads that that is Sean.) I just found on another thread that DW of Society Entertainment or DBS Entertainment or whatever was originally TL's boss. OK. I recall he did also live at Sawgrass previously, like a year ago. Sean and Annie (and Dante?) currently live there or at least did at the time of the disappearance, right? OK. Still don't know who the guy with the KILL tattoo on his fingers is, though.

Oh my gosh, Amberjack, you made me want to see a picture of his other hand, now. That would be too much, wouldn't it.

[Salbgood]

Wow, this thread was buried!

I have to admit, although a little creepy the concept is pretty interesting.

Did anybody come up with anything else?

[vickiev]

Wow, this thread was buried!

I have to admit, although a little creepy the concept is pretty interesting.

Did anybody come up with anything else?

I agree with you, it is interesting, but definately creepy!

I am always checking on this thread too, as I am always interested in saying if they came up with anything else.. I wish I knew how to do it, I would be addicted!

[Salbgood]

I am always checking on this thread too, as I am always interested in saying if they came up with anything else.. I wish I knew how to do it, I would be addicted!


This may be a little o/t but, I tried this the a couple of days ago, with my own

voice. I simply stated into the mic that "I love my husband but sometimes he

makes me angry" (like any relationship, right?). In reverse I say something

like "He makes me smack myself..." and something about a "booger":confused:! Weird.

[aprilraindance]

I love this topic is is so interesting! Thank you for taking the time to do these.
I find myself wishing the newest interviews with GA and CA (the one on Fox) could be done. I am always checking to see if any more reversals have been done.

[Recovering-Lurker]

I love this thread too. It's so interesting. I can't wait to see everything play out to see what was relevant, etc.

[vickiev]

This may be a little o/t but, I tried this the a couple of days ago, with my own

voice. I simply stated into the mic that "I love my husband but sometimes he

makes me angry" (like any relationship, right?). In reverse I say something

like "He makes me smack myself..." and something about a "booger":confused:! Weird.


LMAO! That has to be the funniest thing ever! That's probably what would come back if I did it!! LOL

I have a question though, how did you do it?? What did you use, and how did you reverse it? I find it to be soo interesting, and I want to try it so bad, even though I'm a little scared about it!