Jose Baez

[olive]

Please post any information you can uncover on Casey's attorney, Jose Baez, here. Past cases, bar exams, connections, anything. He is a major player and not a lot of information has been posted regarding his history.

From what I have gathered so far from WS (and correct me if I'm wrong), Casey hired him herself, apparently from the suggestion of fellow inmates. The family of Casey is not paying him. It has not been disclosed how is getting compensated (and as one sleuther stated "follow the money"). He has a private practice in Kissimmee, and wesh.com reported that he represented a few high profile criminal defense cases in the FL area.

wesh.com's "Who is Jose Baez?"
http://www.wesh.com/news/17030505/detail.html

[my2cents]

I stated earlier that if you go to Casey's facebook, click on JP Chitt, go through his friends, find R. Morales, look at his friends. 3 Baez kids. I do not know if that is a common last name there, but I am betting this is tied to Jose and Casey's affiliation.

That may be somewhere for someone to start. Might be the link to why he is there. I couldn't find his specialty on his website, which leads me to believe that he is new and has not established himself. Then he got bashed on national tv and probably is running with his tail between his legs now (hence the motion to withdraw and new co-counsel).

[olive]

There is a Jose Angel Baez listed in an attorney directory who practices law out of Kissimmee.

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/34744-fl-jose-baez-1231148.html

Active in FL since 2005. Graduated from St. Thomas University School of Law

and...

Attorney Jose Baez - The Baez Law Firm, 522 Simpson Rd, Kissimmee, Florida 34744 Phone:407-705-2626 E-Mail: jose@baezlawfirm.com (jose@baezlawfirm.com) - http://baezlawfirm.com/ (http://baezlawfirm.com/)

(above taken from http://myfloridaroundtable.com/blog/?p=114)

His website has a very cheesy video intro. worth watching.

[olive]

I stated earlier that if you go to Casey's facebook, click on JP Chitt, go through his friends, find R. Morales, look at his friends. 3 Baez kids. I do not know if that is a common last name there, but I am betting this is tied to Jose and Casey's affiliation.


Definitely worth exploring! I wish I could figure out facebook...but I can't, so I don't have an account, and even when I did, I couldn't see anyone's info. unless I was linked to them. It was all very confusing. Someone made up a dummy myspace account, maybe we could do that with facebook.

[my2cents]

St. Thomas is NOT a very good school. When I applied to law school in 2005, St. Thomas was a Tier 4 school. IIRC, it was provisionally accredited. I have an email into the dean about the ABA status. I will post the response when I get it.

[ShinaLite]

It was all very confusing. Someone made up a dummy myspace account, maybe we could do that with facebook.

ok ot but I wanted to address this..

i made a general one for anyone here to sign into facebook..

here's the info..

genericsleuth@yahoo.com

password 123abc

from this account you can view members in the Orlando area as well as UCF...

now some of the people do put thier page private..like casey's now is...when its private you are only able to see they have a page and view who thier friends are...

some of the key players have gone private but not all..

[olive]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17114393/detail.html

[Bruce's_Mom]

St. Thomas must be ABA accredited because he was allowed to sit for the bar exam. I know in my state when I was sitting for the bar you had to have a JD from an ABA accredited school. As many states have reciprocity now I am assuming that I that most states require a JD from ABA accredited schools.

That said almost anyone can get in to at least a second tier school, so I am assuming this must be one of those "law schools" that send you offers of full ride scholarships when you take the LSAT.

[RoseRed]

I stated earlier that if you go to Casey's facebook, click on JP Chitt, go through his friends, find R. Morales, look at his friends. 3 Baez kids. I do not know if that is a common last name there, but I am betting this is tied to Jose and Casey's affiliation.

.

There is also four Baez kids in the same 2004 class with Casey at Colonial High.

[coltsgal]

Casey supposedly got Baez's name from fellow inmates at the jail, right? I'd be curious to know if that is true. How many "clients" Baez has in that jail right now. (or at the time casey got there)

[websurfer]

the stories are obvious lies.
The people are not anywhere on earth.

The stealing & partying well that speaks for itself.

He really would be helping her if he had her plead guilty and work out a deal.
After all this is Caylee's Birthday the truth would be a great gift to this poor child...

[redmamatwo]

There is a Jose Angel Baez listed in an attorney directory who practices law out of Kissimmee.

http://www.avvo.com/attorneys/34744-fl-jose-baez-1231148.html

Active in FL since 2005. Graduated from St. Thomas University School of Law

and...

Attorney Jose Baez - The Baez Law Firm, 522 Simpson Rd, Kissimmee, Florida 34744 Phone:407-705-2626 E-Mail: jose@baezlawfirm.com (jose@baezlawfirm.com) - http://baezlawfirm.com/ (http://baezlawfirm.com/)


(above taken from http://myfloridaroundtable.com/blog/?p=114)

His website has a very cheesy video intro. worth watching.

totally agreed ont he video...wow...and what about his quote..." You never get a second chance at a first impression. You may also never get a second chance to preserve your freedom if faced with criminal charges."

So in other words, if you really screw up...CALL ME

Was anyone else kind of offended by the way he commented on the cadaver dogs?
"They dug in the back yard for two days and found nothing, at best this dog is 1 for 2, at worst this dog is 0 for 2, and quite frankly I don’t like these odds."
Seems rather callous to be discussing the possibility of Caylee's death and burial this way. Not to mention the fact that dogs could hit that scent if the body was EVER there. I don't know seems like a conversation about baseball or something, not something as serious as a little girl's life. Guess this couldve made it to the rant thread huh? Sorry!:rolleyes:

[manatee]

Does anyone know if Baez is court appointed? If not, who is paying him? Parents have no money and neither does Casey.
:confused:

[manatee]

is he court appointed public defense attorney or is someone paying him?
I recall Cindy commenting how Casey "had picked him" from a list. But his website says nothing about public defense

[QuickAttack]

is he court appointed public defense attorney or is someone paying him?
I recall Cindy commenting how Casey "had picked him" from a list. But his website says nothing about public defense

I don't think he's court appointed.

I believe Casey chose him.

He's probably representing Casey pro bono, for the massive publicity this case is getting.

[manatee]

I don't think he's court appointed.

I believe Casey chose him.

He's probably representing Casey pro bono, for the massive publicity this case is getting.

yea, I know Casey picked him but I don't know that this means he is getting payment. Probono- Doubt it.

[my2cents]

I forgot that I posted on this thread before WS put me on restriction for a week.

I got a response from the Dean at St. Thomas (where Baez graduated). They have been fully accredited since '96. This means that they were only provisionally accredited when Baez graduated. Being provisionally accredited means the school was being watched closely to see if they could meet the strict standards of the ABA. Provisionally accredited grads can sit for the bar.

Now, the perplexing things is how Baez says that he worked with the Public Defenders office since his 2nd yr in law school and they won all their cases.

If a student is registered with the ABA under student status, they are allowed to practice along side an attorney during their last yr of school. NOW, if he went on full time with the PD office after graduation, he had to have been clerking or doing some menial chore. He was NOT practicing on his own since he did not pass the bar until 2004 or 2005.

I'm betting Baez took the case pro-bono up to a certain point. This would account for all the "help" he is getting now that he made himself look like an idiot on NG. The new guy is a well known atty and is likely jumping in pro-bono for the media coverage.

I know that as a new attorney, I would NOT get involved in this case because this is one for seasoned attorneys, not newbies. Baez looks like he is seeking co-counsel because he doesn't have the experience to handle this caliber of case. JMO.

[liltigress]

Bump Bump Bump...

Did anyone ever look at this? How many Jose Baez's are in Florida?

http://www.sunbiz.org/

BAEZ, JOSE CYCLE SALVAGE LLC L06000045416
BAEZ, JOSE BAEZ REAL ESTATE, LLC L07000085660
BAEZ, JOSE BAEZ ENTERPRISES, INC. L23255
BAEZ, JOSE MINISTERIO INTERNATIONAL NUEVAS FUERZAS, INC. N08000002955
BAEZ, JOSE BRAZILIAN-BIKINIS.COM, INC. P00000054146
BAEZ, JOSE BON BON BIKINIS, INC. P00000061888
BAEZ, JOSE LAWYERCONCEPTS, INC. P02000078135
BAEZ, JOSE LAW STUDENT WEBSITES.COM, INC. P02000078138
BAEZ, JOSE LAUMAR ROOFING SERVICE, INC. P02000113504
BAEZ, JOSE J. BAEZ, INC. P03000086173
BAEZ, JOSE J&A IDEAS CONSULTING, INC. P04000035692
BAEZ, JOSE LWC PRODUCTS INC. P04000088468
BAEZ, JOSE FOJ TRUCK PARTS, INC P06000089974
BAEZ, JOSE PIONEER PERFECTION KEYSTONE WORKS, INC P06000143364
BAEZ, JOSE DISENOS & INVENSIONES BAEZ INC. P08000063388
BAEZ, JOSE INFI-NEAT, INC. P08000066909
BAEZ, JOSE TIE TIMES, INC. P93000065508
BAEZ, JOSE GREEN FIELDS LANDSCAPING, INC. P96000074148
BAEZ, JOSE JOSE'S FABRICS, INC. P98000033866
BAEZ, JOSE LAUMAR ROOFING SOUTH, INC. V61565
BAEZ, JOSE CYCLE SALVAGE LLC L06000045416
BAEZ, JOSE BAEZ REAL ESTATE, LLC L07000085660
BAEZ, JOSE BAEZ REAL ESTATE II, LLC L08000021595
BAEZ, JOSE BAEZ ENTERPRISES, INC. L23255
BAEZ, JOSE LAUMAR ROOFING SERVICE, INC. P02000113504
BAEZ, JOSE J. BAEZ, INC. P03000086173
BAEZ, JOSE JOSE BAEZ ENTERPRISES CORP. P03000089341
BAEZ, JOSE J&A IDEAS CONSULTING, INC. P04000035692
BAEZ, JOSE LWC PRODUCTS INC. P04000088468
BAEZ, JOSE J. BAEZ TRUCKING, INC. P05000020047
BAEZ, JOSE PIONEER PERFECTION KEYSTONE WORKS, INC P06000143364
BAEZ, JOSE DISENOS & INVENSIONES BAEZ INC. P08000063388
BAEZ, JOSE TIE TIMES, INC. P93000065508
BAEZ, JOSE GREEN FIELDS LANDSCAPING, INC. P96000074148
BAEZ, JOSE JOSE'S FABRICS, INC. P98000033866
BAEZ, JOSE LWC, INC. P98000051602
BAEZ, JOSE LAUMAR ROOFING SOUTH, INC. V61565
BAEZ, JOSE A MIRACLES FOR CHILDREN FOUNDATION CORP. N04000004829
BAEZ, JOSE A JOSE BAEZ ENTERPRISES CORP. P03000089341
BAEZ, JOSE A NEMO VISION, INC P07000001861
BAEZ, JOSE A VANCY RECORDS INC. P07000091352
BAEZ, JOSE A MIAMI DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROJECT, INC. N01000002173
BAEZ, JOSE A BUSINESS TECHNOLOGICAL CONSULTING, INC P04000003520
BAEZ, JOSE A NEMO VISION, INC P07000001861
BAEZ, JOSE A VANCY RECORDS INC. P07000091352
BAEZ, JOSE A (ASST) MIAMI DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROJECT, INC. N01000002173
BAEZ, JOSE A SR VANCY INC. P06000080454
BAEZ, JOSE A SR VANCY INC. P06000080454

[believe09]

Has he allowed LE access to his client yet? This is what I personally care about....this man was chosen because he pled a mother who murdered her child down to manslaughter. This makes him a good choice for this case IMO.

[rm_blogger]

yea, I know Casey picked him but I don't know that this means he is getting payment. Probono- Doubt it.

I don't know about that. It's not often when a high profile case like this comes along and there are lawyers that will jump on it just for the free publicity. That's not saying he won't do his best to represent her, just that he may be willing to do it for free.

[krimekat]

He is on Greta if you want to listen to him. And there is a discussion thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69215

[manatee]

The name Jose Baez is a somewhat common name for Cubans...close to a John smith. Jose is probably top ten for hispanics. So if searching the name jose baez you will get lots of hits. But does not mean is the same guy.
jmo

[Liz]

Ironically, escorting Casey home yesterday, caused Mr Jose Baez to be tardy to defend another client of his, Nilton Diaz, against manslaughter charges. Those charges pertained to the two-year old daughter of his girlfriend at the time.

Snippets from article,
Man sentenced to 15 years in death of girlfriend's daughter (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-manslaughter2208aug22,0,2712596.story):

Diaz, 30, was sentenced to 15 years in prison for manslaughter.

He and defense lawyer Jos� Baez proclaimed his innocence and blamed the child's mother, Samaris Bobe Silva, who participated in the proceedings by phone from her home in Puerto Rico.
Baez called the sheriff's probe of the child's death "a one-night, one-sided investigation," suggesting the more likely suspect was the mother, whom he criticized as "cold" for not attending the hearing in person. He said she "couldn't even bring herself to cry" during her telephone testimony.

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Baez's words about how the child's mother couldn't even bring herself to cry, might come back to bite him in his butt! :bang:

A bit of a coinky-dink, I think!

[impatientredhead]

Ironically, escorting Casey home yesterday, caused Mr Jose Baez to be tardy to defend another client of his, Nilton Diaz, against manslaughter charges. Those charges pertained to the two-year old daughter of his girlfriend at the time.

Snippets from article,
Man sentenced to 15 years in death of girlfriend's daughter (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-manslaughter2208aug22,0,2712596.story):

Diaz, 30, was sentenced to 15 years in prison for manslaughter.

He and defense lawyer Jos� Baez proclaimed his innocence and blamed the child's mother, Samaris Bobe Silva, who participated in the proceedings by phone from her home in Puerto Rico.
Baez called the sheriff's probe of the child's death "a one-night, one-sided investigation," suggesting the more likely suspect was the mother, whom he criticized as "cold" for not attending the hearing in person. He said she "couldn't even bring herself to cry" during her telephone testimony.

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Baez's words about how the child's mother couldn't even bring herself to cry, might come back to bite him in his butt! :bang:

A bit of a coinky-dink, I think!

Very interesting. I wonder how many child killers he is defending at any given time?

[IrishSweetOne]

It's my understanding that Casey has never been in general population ......right ??? So how could she have gotten JB number from a fellow inmate ??

[Liz]

I have a feeling she knows one of his kids, who allegedly went to the same school as Casey.

[Muzikman]

Ironically, escorting Casey home yesterday, caused Mr Jose Baez to be tardy to defend another client of his, Nilton Diaz, against manslaughter charges. Those charges pertained to the two-year old daughter of his girlfriend at the time.

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Baez's words about how the child's mother couldn't even bring herself to cry, might come back to bite him in his butt! :bang:

A bit of a coinky-dink, I think!

I find this EXTREMELY interesting, that Casey picked this particular lawyer to represent her, and pretty quickly after being arrested.

Now I'm wondering if she researched lawyers before being arrested and picked him because of this case.

Hopefully LE has done forensic analysis on all computers involved and found these searches. If they were done BEFORE the 911 call, it seems like it would show some kind of intent or something?

[MarleneM]

I didn't see this posted here, but wanted to make sure you all caught it as it references the CA case.

Stephen Hudak | Sentinel Staff Writer
August 22, 2008
TAVARES - Like a boxer trapped on the ropes, Nilton Diaz fought for his freedom Thursday. But he failed to convince a judge that he was innocent in the death of 2-year-old Noeris Vazquez, granddaughter of acclaimed Puerto Rican fighter Wilfredo Vazquez.

Diaz, 30, was sentenced to 15 years in prison for manslaughter.

He and defense lawyer Jos� Baez proclaimed his innocence and blamed the child's mother, Samaris Bobe Silva, who participated in the proceedings by phone from her home in Puerto Rico.

"Ask God to forgive him because neither me or my family will," Silva told Lake Circuit Judge Mark Nacke through a translator.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-manslaughter2208aug22,0,2712596.story

[Hailiejade77]

Hopefully he loses another case as well,.... Casey Anthony's. I wonder how he sleeps at night defending baby killers? jmo

[whiteangora]

It's my understanding that Casey has never been in general population ......right ??? So how could she have gotten JB number from a fellow inmate ??

If I'm not mistaken, when you are first arrested you are in a holding cell, usually with other recent arrestees, either in the same cell or very close by.

[Cagney]

Interesting to say the least.....

[websurfer]

it will be only a matter of time.

Casey's family will grow impaitent as will the Bounty hunter [ not her lawyer]
Casey will attempt to escape through the back door or window and get caught.
Is the back of the home watched also?

Look; the family will go along with it for a while but their tempers will emerge.
it will not be sweet for long.
I see a volcano brewing and that's because she will not ever say one word worth following a lead on.

This person is devoid of compasion and feelings.
Clever she is...
the family will implode!

That's just the way it is.
They also may ask for outside help in the form of a shrink?

To cope?
:confused:
Because I really think Casey will keep her info to herself.
She is due for court in November...
no Caylee for Thanksgiving....family dinner.

no Caylee for Holloween around the neighborhood.

The family will wise up and admit Casey needs serious help...

[Fandy]

I posted this on the general thread too, I saw a snippet this morning on Fox that Geraldo has interviewed JB on his boat. Does anyone have a link? TIA (to clarify, it's Geraldo's boat)

[Fandy]

I think that the Anthony family will be solicited by a more experienced attorney who has a good track record with high profile cases. They will retain him and possibly keep Baez to work with him....(as he has the framework defense). jmo and theory

[manatee]

I think that the Anthony family will be solicited by a more experienced attorney who has a good track record with high profile cases. They will retain him and possibly keep Baez to work with him....(as he has the framework defense). jmo and theory

Maybe Geragos.

[LI_Mom]

I think that the Anthony family will be solicited by a more experienced attorney who has a good track record with high profile cases. They will retain him and possibly keep Baez to work with him....(as he has the framework defense). jmo and theory

I've said this all along also EXCEPT I think they might wait right until the trial date & THEN fire the atty. so they can have more time while their NEW atty. prepares for the defense.

I even think they might pull that same stunt over & over until the judge grows impatient & declares NO MORE POSTPONEMENTS.

Just like Casey knew that it's in her own best interests to delay reporting Caylee missing & then refused to give LE any info that might lead them to FIND Caylee... I think she'll want to delay facing the trial. She has a track record of NOT wanting to deal with reality.

[Fandy]

on the other hand, maybe a better high profile atty. doesn't want to touch this case with a 10 foot pole....because they couldn't win it.

Casey Anthony is not well received by the public and neither are her family. what ever happened to their spokesperson?

[manatee]

Just reported on wesh 2 news that Casey has been with Baez at his office all day and that they are still there.
I'm not an attorney so I have no idea was reasonable, but considering there is no new charges and no new evidence, what could they possible be talking about for hours on end???? Does he not have other cases? :rolleyes::waitasec::waitasec:

[kathyn2]

I think its terrible that the man who murdered the childl only got 15 years. He should never see the light of day out of jail. So perhaps Baez did a better job than we think to get such a light sentence. Can you imagine an innocent child who gets their head bashed in by their father is a crime only punishable by 15 years in prison?

[curiositycat]

Very Interesting. All sorts of thoughts going through my head, no basis for any of them So I will just say ...interesting.

[Thinking_Out_Loud]

It is interesting how Baez wants to condemn the mother of one child for not crying, but wants to excuse Casey for the same reason. What a hypocrite!

[LI_Mom]

Just reported on wesh 2 news that Casey has been with Baez at his office all day and that they are still there.
I'm not an attorney so I have no idea was reasonable, but considering there is no new charges and no new evidence, what could they possible be talking about for hours on end???? Does he not have other cases? :rolleyes::waitasec::waitasec:

If she's NOT at home with her family, that's probably the only time Baez can relax. Even HE has to realize her family wants desperately to know where to find Caylee.

It's pretty infuriating that her lawyer can't meet with her at HER house though.... after all, why should she be allowed 'outings' unless it's a medical emergency?! :furious:

If she's allowed to go out for visits TO her atty.... how do we know the plan isn't JUST to show LE that she goes there & straight home.... and never tries to escape. After a while, the media gets bored, LE gets a bit lazy & *poof* Casey disappears.

What's the point in home confinement if she's NOT home????

[s1rebecca]

Is there a Joes Baez thread, I read more about other cases he has worked on alot have to do with children. I will post there if there is another thread.

[LI_Mom]

It is interesting how Baez wants to condemn the mother of one child for not crying, but wants to excuse Casey for the same reason. What a hypocrite!

He's a defense lawyer.... his only job is to protect his client as best he can.

For all we know, he might personally think Casey is a real P.O.S. & she turns his stomach..... but he doesn't let his personal feelings interfere with his job.

[imnotheonlyone]

I have a feeling she knows one of his kids, who allegedly went to the same school as Casey.

GOD, maybe one of his kids is Caylee's father???

[manatee]

He's a defense lawyer.... his only job is to protect his client as best he can.

For all we know, he might personally think Casey is a real P.O.S. & she turns his stomach..... but he doesn't let his personal feelings interfere with his job.

doubt it. sorry.

[ShouldBWorking]

heard she had permission to be at his office from 10-4 makes me wonder if they are afraid the house is bugged and they don't want to talk there

[IrishSweetOne]

Someone , I can't remember who was looking for the link to the video this AM with Geraldo , JB and lovely wife Lorraine (sp) . I looked everywhere for the original but was unable to find it , I think because it was a sneak preview of Geraldo At Large that's suppose to air this week-end .

PattyG recorded it with her flip video thankfully !!

I am assuming the lady standing on JB right towards the end of the piece is lovely wife Lorraine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OLOhoV8mE

[MarleneM]

It is interesting how Baez wants to condemn the mother of one child for not crying, but wants to excuse Casey for the same reason. What a hypocrite!

Yes. That part jumped out at me. And the fact that JB was late to a very important date in court with this client 'because of CA', but from what we've seen, tell me - what has transpired in the last 24 hours with CA that was more important than being at the sentencing hearing for your other client facing charges of murdering a child?

Was it necessary for JB to 'escort' CA home from jail and then enjoy a "relaxing" day/evening as a "family" in the Anthony home?

[Muzikman]

I emailed this story to Greta and told them to ask Baez about it.

And also to ask how Casey found Baez so quicky after being arrested - and attorney with a current child-killer case going on? :)

[Muzikman]

I know somebody asked somewhere what it said on the umbrella Baez used when she was released - for what it's worth, it's Lexis Publishing. Don't think it means anything, probably and umbrella given to him by them.

>>About LEXIS-NEXIS

The LEXIS Publishing family of products and services serves the ever-changing needs of today's lawyers, law librarians, paralegals and law students. LEXIS Publishing is part of the LEXIS-NEXIS Group, a division of Reed Elsevier Inc. Information about LEXIS Publishing may be found at www.lexispublishing.com.<<

[websurfer]

None of us has a clue.
He says Casey has been talking...
Cindy was huggin on him and leaning on his shoulder?

They speak alike and act alike..

ok back to Caylee.
no clue.

[whiteangora]

I had to go back 8 pages to be sure to post on the correct thread.
Why is he making himself so scarce? I haven't heard anything from him since Casey's rearrest.

[jacquie]

I don't think he's court appointed.

I believe Casey chose him.

He's probably representing Casey pro bono, for the massive publicity this case is getting.

Can't a lawyer apply to the state for some payment if thier client is indigent?

[olive]

I had to go back 8 pages to be sure to post on the correct thread.
Why is he making himself so scarce? I haven't heard anything from him since Casey's rearrest.

He is in over his head; he doesn't have the experience for a case like this, which is why the family is speaking with a new superstar attorney.

[MD MOMMY]

Didn't Casey graduate with Baez's daughter at Colonial? She now works at the firm with Baez.

[whiteangora]

Didn't Casey graduate with Baez's daughter at Colonial? She now works at the firm with Baez.

I've heard that also. I wonder if she reads/posts here?

[Truth Seeker]

"If I have to go out myself, door to door, and look for this child, until the day I die, I will walk every inch of this earth and open every door and knock on every door everyday and I will look in every nook and cranny," Cynthia said.
The pair says they have faith in their daughter and are paying for her attorney.

http://www.wftv.com/news/16924162/detail.html

[BeBeBru]

it will be only a matter of time.

Casey's family will grow impaitent as will the Bounty hunter [ not her lawyer]
Casey will attempt to escape through the back door or window and get caught.
Is the back of the home watched also?

Look; the family will go along with it for a while but their tempers will emerge.
it will not be sweet for long.
I see a volcano brewing and that's because she will not ever say one word worth following a lead on.

This person is devoid of compasion and feelings.
Clever she is...
the family will implode!

That's just the way it is.
They also may ask for outside help in the form of a shrink?

To cope?
:confused:
Because I really think Casey will keep her info to herself.
She is due for court in November...
no Caylee for Thanksgiving....family dinner.

no Caylee for Holloween around the neighborhood.

The family will wise up and admit Casey needs serious help...



Should we try to get Dr. Phil in on this one?

[MD MOMMY]

Should we try to get Dr. Phil in on this one?

Well he tried to help BS right? I'm sure he would be all over Casey LOL.

[BeagleMom]

Please forgive me if this has been posted previously regarding JB.

On his website he says that he started working in the public defenders office in Miami in 1995. The office said he wasn't hired until 1997.

JB explanation is that he started interning there (during the summers) in 1995. He interned with attorneys. He was allowed to try cases with a "real" attorney before passing the bar. So, the cases that were won while he interned is included in his statistics appearing on his web page.

He passed the bar 8 years after graduating law school.

He should only include the cases he has won when he sat first chair. Talk about spin!!!!!!!!!

JMO

BeagleMom

[whiteangora]

Please forgive me if this has been posted previously regarding JB.

On his website he says that he started working in the public defenders office in Miami in 1995. The office said he wasn't hired until 1997.

JB explanation is that he started interning there (during the summers) in 1995. He interned with attorneys. He was allowed to try cases with a "real" attorney before passing the bar. So, the cases that were won while he interned is included in his statistics appearing on his web page.

He passed the bar 8 years after graduating law school.

He should only include the cases he has won when he sat first chair. Talk about spin!!!!!!!!!

JMO

BeagleMom

Guess that explains why Cindy seems to be so infatuated with him and why he and Casey spend so much time together.
Birds - feathers jmo

[secreteye]

Can't a lawyer apply to the state for some payment if thier client is indigent?

Notice on 7/17 the order appointing public defender...


Event Date Event Time Description Location
8/21/2008 0845 WRITTEN PLEA NOT GUILTY ROOM 6-D ON THE SIXTH FLOOR
7/29/2008 1330 MANUAL - HEARING ROOM 6-D ON THE SIXTH FLOOR


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Docket Date Defendant Docket Entry
7/16/2008 A COMPLAINT FILED DOA 07/16/08 BOND CT1: NONE CT2: NONE CT3: NONE #08034750
7/17/2008 A ADVICE TO DEFENDANT, FIRST APPEARANCE
7/17/2008 A AFF/INSOL FILED REF
7/17/2008 A APPEARANCE OF DEFENDANT ENTERED
7/17/2008 A BOND STAYED @ NONE
7/17/2008 A DEMAND FOR DISCOVERY FILED
7/17/2008 A DERP FEE OF $50 IMPOSED CR15 50.00
7/17/2008 A MOTION TO SET BAIL BOND FILED
7/17/2008 A NOTICE OF APPEARANCE FILED JOSE A. BAEZ
7/17/2008 A NOTICE OF INVOKATION OF CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS
7/17/2008 A ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
7/17/2008 A ORDER FINDING PROBABLE CAUSE FILED
7/17/2008 A IN OPEN COURT INITIAL APPEARANCE
7/17/2008 A ORDER - COURT DENIES BAIL BECAUSE NO CONDITION OF RELEASE CAN REASONABLY PROTECT THE COMMUNITY, ASSURED THE APPEARANCE OF THE DEFENDANT OR PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE JUDICIAL PROCESS.
7/17/2008 A ORDER - WHILE IN CUSTODY DEF TO BE SCREENED FOR BAKER ACT CRITERIA. NO UNSUPERVISED CONTACT WITH ANY CHILD UNDER 17 YOA
7/17/2008 A WAIVER OF ARRAIGNMENT
7/17/2008 A WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY ENTERED
7/22/2008 A APPEARANCE OF DEFENDANT ENTERED
7/22/2008 A APPEAR. OF ATTORNEY ENTERED
7/22/2008 A BOND SET AT CT1)$500,000 CT2)$100 CT3)$100 + GPS & HCR
7/22/2008 A COURT MINUTES FILED
7/22/2008 A DEFENSE WITNESS SWORN AND TESTIFIED 1)CYNTHIA ANTHONY 2)GEORGE ANTHONY 3)LEE ANTHONY
7/22/2008 A MOTION TO SET BOND IS GRANTED. FORFEIT PASSPORT.
7/22/2008 A IN OPEN COURT MOTION TO SET BOND
7/22/2008 A COURT ORDERS PSCHOLOGICAL EVALUATION BY DR. DANZIGER & DR. BERNS
7/22/2008 A STATE WITNESS SWORN AND TESTIFIED 1)YUIR MELICH 2)JASON FORGEY
7/23/2008 A CORRECTED COURT MINUTES FILED NUNC PRO TUNC 7/22/08 AS TO MISC ORDERS
7/24/2008 A ORDER APPOINTING EXPERTS FOR COMPETENCY EVALUATION
7/25/2008 A APPLICATION FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM FILED
7/25/2008 A ORDER FOR SUBPOENA DUECES TECUM (GRANTED)
7/25/2008 A STATE'S RESPONSE TO DEFT'S APPLICATION FOR SUBPOENA DUCES TECUM DATED JULY 24, 2008
7/28/2008 A CORRESPONDENCE FILED (COPY) FROM DR. ALAN S. BERNS TO ATTY JOSE BAEZ, DATED 7/27/08 RE: REQUEST FOR RECORDS OF CLIENT
7/28/2008 A MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER
7/28/2008 A AMENDED MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER
7/28/2008 A NOTICE OF UNAVAILABILITY
7/29/2008 A APPEARANCE OF DEFENDANT ENTERED
7/29/2008 A APPEAR. OF ATTORNEY ENTERED
7/29/2008 A MOTION TO INTERVENE FOR THE LIMITED PURPOSE OF OPPOSING DEFENDANTS MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER FILED
7/29/2008 A NOTICE OF HEARING FILED <07/29/2008> 01:30 P.M.
7/29/2008 A IN OPEN COURT HEARING MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER
7/29/2008 A ORDER DENYING DEFENSES MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER
7/29/2008 A WITNESS (DEFENSE) (1)
7/31/2008 A MOTION TO WITHDRAW FILED PD
7/31/2008 A PSYCHIATRIC/MENTAL HEALTH EVALUATION FILED
8/1/2008 A ORDER RE: WITHDRAW FILED PD
8/5/2008 A WRITTEN PLEA OF NOT GUILTY ARG DATE <08/21/2008> 08:45 A.M.
8/5/2008 A INFORMATION FILED


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[Melly53]

Note also:

7/31/2008 A MOTION TO WITHDRAW FILED PD
8/1/2008 A ORDER RE: WITHDRAW FILED PD

I thought we determined that the PD mentioned above was for the Public Defender to withdraw from the case.

[Misfit76]

Im sorry, but this whole thing with JB reminds me of the 'Chewbacca defense', like I could see him actually using it.



Baez-
"Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, the state of Florida would certainly want you to believe that Casey is involved with her daughter's disappearance. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/0330chewbacca.jpg

Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending CA and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."

Anyone who watches South Park will know what I was referring to. JB is a joke to me and his lies and covering for CA just reminded me of that episode. I just hope to God she is charged with the full extent and that the jury will not fall under his spell like Cindy and others seem to have. I want justice for that little girl. :banghead:

[halleyscomet]

The Anthony's spent several hours with a local high profile attorney yesterday. Here is the article. Maybe Baez is over his head? Or, are the Anthony's looking for their own attorney?

http://www.wftv.com/news/17382107/detail.html

[Blink34]

For them, they will need one.

[drumstick]

I personally believe that at some point this case will financially break Baez (if it hasn't already) and he will seek relief from the court.

Without additional partners with substantial financial resources, he will not have the funds to hire "experts" for trial if/when the murder charges are filed and this case is finally presented to the court.

I don't see defense attorneys lined up to represent Casey.

It will be interesting to watch the progression of the County's legal services allocate funds for her defense.
All the taxpayers in Orange County will pay dearly for this one.

:(

[Beyond Me]

Im sorry, but this whole thing with JB reminds me of the 'Chewbacca defense', like I could see him actually using it.



Baez-
"Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, the state of Florida would certainly want you to believe that Casey is involved with her daughter's disappearance. And they make a good case. Hell, I almost felt pity myself! But, ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/08/0330chewbacca.jpg

Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending CA and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, [approaches and softens] does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests."

Anyone who watches South Park will know what I was referring to. JB is a joke to me and his lies and covering for CA just reminded me of that episode. I just hope to God she is charged with the full extent and that the jury will not fall under his spell like Cindy and others seem to have. I want justice for that little girl. :banghead:

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh: I thought of this episode from the first minute Beaz opened his fat mouth about Casey "innocence"!

[lillygator]

is Baez in a practice alone?

[Blink34]

Yes, meaning he is the only lawyer in his practice, but Mike Walsh is second chair

[tiredofthis]

Should we try to get Dr. Phil in on this one?

Wasn't there something in the 400+ documents about Dr. Phil contacting one of the investigators or am I remembering incorrectly?

[bunnyphoenix1]

Please forgive me if this has been posted previously regarding JB.

On his website he says that he started working in the public defenders office in Miami in 1995. The office said he wasn't hired until 1997.

JB explanation is that he started interning there (during the summers) in 1995. He interned with attorneys. He was allowed to try cases with a "real" attorney before passing the bar. So, the cases that were won while he interned is included in his statistics appearing on his web page.

He passed the bar 8 years after graduating law school.

He should only include the cases he has won when he sat first chair. Talk about spin!!!!!!!!!

JMO

BeagleMom

I agree. The site appears to be very misleading re how long he has been admitted to practise. IMOO

[lillygator]

wonder what his other clients (if he has any) think of him working on this case?

[dreamfeather]

Ok, can I throw out an obvious question that I haven't seen asked anywhere?

There's all this talk and supposition circulating around about Cindy hating Hispanics, that's why Caylee's father was cut out of the pic, etc.

Doesn't ANYONE think, were that the case, it extremely odd that she should place Casey's life in the hands of an obviously Hispanic defense lawyer?

Anyone? Anyone?

[lizzie_april]

I recently just found out that his last defendant (the child murder case) worked with me. I worked with him when it all went down and when he was convicted. I remember people talking about the trial when it was going on. The only opinion I have about him (the defendant) is that he was a hard worker, but was a little smug. Most people at my company loved this guy though and went to his trial everyday. Most people around here thought he would be found innocent and everyone was shocked when he was found guilty. They all said his lawyer was not very good.
Now that he is KC's attorney too, I hear coworkers of mine talking about how bad of a lawyer he was and how in the world did he get involved with this case.
This leads me to ask, what is the back story on Jose Baez? How long has he been an attorney and how many cases has he tried and what is his success rate?

[monoxide]

I recently just found out that his last defendant (the child murder case) worked with me. I worked with him when it all went down and when he was convicted. I remember people talking about the trial when it was going on. The only opinion I have about him (the defendant) is that he was a hard worker, but was a little smug. Most people at my company loved this guy though and went to his trial everyday. Most people around here thought he would be found innocent and everyone was shocked when he was found guilty. They all said his lawyer was not very good.
Now that he is KC's attorney too, I hear coworkers of mine talking about how bad of a lawyer he was and how in the world did he get involved with this case.
This leads me to ask, what is the back story on Jose Baez? How long has he been an attorney and how many cases has he tried and what is his success rate?

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/

[lizzie_april]

Thank you!

[EastSideOfSaddness]

redacted--need to brush up on my Spanish.

[ZooMomology]

Back story is national media, make himself a few bucks and clients.

[dcorrigano]

Back story is national media, make himself a few bucks and clients.


I dont see how he is going to get any "paying" clients from this case.
Imagine if/when he loses, every defendant in Orlando would rather use a PD over JB.

[diz39]

I do not see anywhere on JB's bio where he went to law school. Any one know?

[McNugget]

I do not see anywhere on JB's bio where he went to law school. Any one know?

Taken from a cached Orlando Sentinel page:

In the past month, 39-year-old Baez has appeared on national television shows. He is quoted in People magazine. Court hearings he's in are shown live over the Internet.

This sudden celebrity is a dramatic change for the boy who dropped out of Homestead High in the ninth grade, joined the U.S. Navy and attended Florida State University with plans of becoming a cop. He decided to be a lawyer his last year in Tallahassee.

"I wanted to have a bigger impact on the system. I thought law was the way to do that," he said from his strip-mall office next door to Miller Bail Bonds and down the street from the Osceola County Jail.

Baez, who speaks Spanish and Portuguese, graduated from St. Thomas University in Miami in 1997, cut his legal teeth at the Miami-Dade Public Defender's Office and opened his law firm in Kissimmee three years ago. He has another lawyer who works with him, along with an investigator and a paralegal.

Edit: Bolded the wrong part, sorry.

[Just__me]

According to Baez web page he joined the PD office in 1995 and won 32 of 34 cases he tried in the first 2 years. Baez could not have tried any cases in the first 2 years has he had not yet been admitted to the Bar. Baez was not amitted to the Bar until 2005 and it was then that he opened his "private" law practice.
I have been able to find just one major case he tried and he lost that one. On that case Baez made his client and the court wait for him for 45 minutes while he took Casey home.
Baez at one time had a real estate license in Florida, so I would guess he sold real estate to supplement his PD Lackey (he was not an attorney) salary.
Baez lives in a very modest home which he purchased in 2003, which leads me to think he really is not the sucessful attorney he portrays himself to be.
Would you put St Thomas University on your CV?? Maybe that is why it took him 8 years to pass the Bar.


https://www.myfloridalicense.com/LicenseDetail.asp?SID=&id=DB57BFAB967A30E6BCC3D13BB496E3EA

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/Jose/AboutUs_Jose_English.html

[Macushla]

I said this on another thread, but will post it here also. IF (unless she cops a plea and that is doubtful) or when Casey goes to trial on any type of charges relating to Caylee's disappearance and death, I seriously doubt JB will be her attorney - or if he is, he will be second chair to someone else. This whole bizarre case is going to be just too tempting for a high profile criminal defense attorney not to sink their teeth into.

[one_hooah_wife]

"News 13 asked Press Corp Media, the group representing the Baez law firm, if the Anthony family was paying for his services out of pocket or if he was doing it for free. They said how Baez gets paid is none of the public's business."

snipped from:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/11/casey_anthony_facing_new_charges.html

[sunsetbeach]

OT but Baez looks a lot like Chavez. JMO.

[SFW]

I believe that JB is the closest one to the truth. There is a good chance that he doesn't know the truth, but does he want to?

If JB were to take a lie detector test what questions would you ask him?

Do you know where Caylee is? JB: No...
Most likely true

Do you believe that your client knows where Caylee is? JB: No...
Most likely false

Have you personally benefited, in any way due to your representation of Casey? JB: No...
Completely false

Of course these are just my opinions in how he would answer, but I would be very interested in hearing others opinions or questions/answers they would ask or expect.

[GizzySmith]

I believe that JB is the closest one to the truth. There is a good chance that he doesn't know the truth, but does he want to?

SNIP.
Are you talking about KC's layer Jose B? If so he don't need to take a lie detector. He's the lawyer what he knows or doesn't know is between the client and him. Only under limited conditions would he need to reveal anything to the courts.

[Katie526]

I know people who have taken lie detector tests and people on here has also said this. "I told the truth and the test said it was not true". They really aren't admissable in court, I don't think.

A lot of people won't take them for their inaccuracy.

[SFW]

I know people who have taken lie detector tests and people on here has also said this. "I told the truth and the test said it was not true". They really aren't admissable in court, I don't think.

A lot of people won't take them for their inaccuracy.

I agree with you that lie detectors tests are not admissable and therefore do not hold much relevance. My point was just that I'm sure JB either knows the truth or could find out the truth if he really wanted to.

While lie detector tests are inaccurate to some degree, LE has used them to confront the suspect and say "this proves you lied" in some cases it has worked to get a confession.

[robotdog]

everyone involved in this case ( the main characters ) would all fail the test

they would fail faster than a hippo sitting in a mud sinkhole

[ella971]

Can anyone fill me in on JBs past clients? What is his story?

[Girlrilla]

Are hippos your favorite animals RD?

:lol:

:laugh:

I think Casey would pass. She seems to get to a point where she truly believes her lies and doesn't stress when telling them. If she is a true sociopath, lie detectors often don't work well on them.

[suspicious mind]

CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST
9/18
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html

[TexasLil]

I love this part:

"The legal merits of his motion have yet to be decided, because Baez blundered by not notifying the judge assigned to the case about his motion. Nor has he asked the judge for a hearing. So his motion sits in the clerk's office on the second floor of the courthouse going nowhere."

And Casey sits at home going nowhere except to JB's office. I'll bet LE disagrees... this case is definitely going SOMEWHERE!

[suspicious mind]

funny isn't it, for such a greaaaaaat lawyer and all? That has to be embarassing!!!!

[Devorahhh]

is he court appointed public defense attorney or is someone paying him?
I recall Cindy commenting how Casey "had picked him" from a list. But his website says nothing about public defense

I have posted about this before. Jose Baez is NOT court appointed, nor does he have a contract with Orange County. He is not a Public Defender. How he is getting paid is anyones guess.

In Orange County, we have the Public Defenders, if there is a conflict, we then appoint The Office of Regional Conflict Counsel, then if that has a conflict, we go to our list of contract attorneys. Jose Baez is not on that list.

[Devorahhh]

Can't a lawyer apply to the state for some payment if thier client is indigent?

Only for costs such as costs of depositions, not for representing her.

[misheley26]

I posted links to find cases JB's formerly, and currently working on in LE Docs and OC jail info. The title of the post is JB's Former/Current Cases Per Orange County Clerk of Courts

[misheley26]

Jb, good job winner!

CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST
9/18
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html

[babiesstolemydingo]

Jb, good job winner!

Great find!

[Devorahhh]

According to Baez web page he joined the PD office in 1995 and won 32 of 34 cases he tried in the first 2 years. Baez could not have tried any cases in the first 2 years has he had not yet been admitted to the Bar. Baez was not amitted to the Bar until 2005 and it was then that he opened his "private" law practice.
I have been able to find just one major case he tried and he lost that one. On that case Baez made his client and the court wait for him for 45 minutes while he took Casey home.
Baez at one time had a real estate license in Florida, so I would guess he sold real estate to supplement his PD Lackey (he was not an attorney) salary.
Baez lives in a very modest home which he purchased in 2003, which leads me to think he really is not the sucessful attorney he portrays himself to be.
Would you put St Thomas University on your CV?? Maybe that is why it took him 8 years to pass the Bar.


https://www.myfloridalicense.com/LicenseDetail.asp?SID=&id=DB57BFAB967A30E6BCC3D13BB496E3EA

http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/3A2DB569807C9B46852570970071F970?OpenDocument

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/Jose/AboutUs_Jose_English.html

Actually in the state of florida you can try a case as a Certified Legal Intern if the Client signs off on it. Of course, the CLE would be supervised by an attorney who has passed the bar.

[curiositycat]

I am working on a new theory that I won't go into because, as of now, I have a whole lot of people who are intertwined in businesses in this case..but not a shred of proof. Still working on it.
I don't think that Casey was given JB's name by an inmate. I think, that she may have been involved in some illegal activity and that JB is an "on call" lawyer for some of the people she may have been involved with.
Has anyone got a picture of JB's wife? I should would love a link. I can't find one anywhere. I am curious as to what she looks like. wink wink

[manatee]

I am working on a new theory that I won't go into because, as of now, I have a whole lot of people who are intertwined in businesses in this case..but not a shred of proof. Still working on it.
I don't think that Casey was given JB's name by an inmate. I think, that she may have been involved in some illegal activity and that JB is an "on call" lawyer for some of the people she may have been involved with.
Has anyone got a picture of JB's wife? I should would love a link. I can't find one anywhere. I am curious as to what she looks like. wink wink

she was barely on the video with Geraldo on the boat...

[curiositycat]

she was barely on the video with Geraldo on the boat...
I remember LP, when asked if there was something going on between KC and JB said "No way, his wife is gorgeous" LOL

[manatee]

I remember LP, when asked if there was something going on between KC and JB said "No way, his wife is gorgeous" LOL

yes, that's true, but he later conceded that "all men are dogs" and who knows...

[Misfit76]

"Eyewitness News also learned that Baez was almost an hour late for the sentencing of his client, Nilton Diaz, in a Lake County child abuse death the day Anthony was released the first time. That same day, Baez shoved a reporter. He also kept the Lake County judge, the victim's family and witnesses waiting. When he arrived, he made no apology."

Wow, so hes defending another child killer case at almost the same time as this one. I can almost bet he has no sympathy or compassion for Caylee at all.

[misheley26]

KC and JB holding hands in this video...right in the beginning just as they're about to get in the car. Come on!


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US

[Melly53]

"Eyewitness News also learned that Baez was almost an hour late for the sentencing of his client, Nilton Diaz, in a Lake County child abuse death the day Anthony was released the first time. That same day, Baez shoved a reporter. He also kept the Lake County judge, the victim's family and witnesses waiting. When he arrived, he made no apology."

Wow, so hes defending another child killer case at almost the same time as this one. I can almost bet he has no sympathy or compassion for Caylee at all.

I see some of the same arrogance in him that I see in the Anthony family...in other words he obviously felt there was no need to apologize because he had not done anything wrong. Not!! Seems like a good way to tick off some judges to me which is the last thing a lawyer wants to do.

After watching the video on his site, personally I think that Baez attempts to put on a front of being a big shot, high paid attorney when he really isn't. Compared to many seasoned criminal defense attorneys he is still a rookie and may well be way over his head on this case IMO. Eight years after law school to take the bar huh. Anyone know if that was his first attempt at passing the bar exam? Oh and if he really wants to look like a professional, I really think he needs to ditch the crystal liquor decanters and glasses that are highly visible on the credenzas directly behind the desks of each of the attorneys in his firm in the video. I wonder if he has to lock up the booze when CA is in the office. The other guy's office looks kind of pitiful when you look at the arrangement of books on his bookcase. Three measley little law books centered on each shelf but the crystal decanters are sure there for all to see. Seems to me that the money would have been better spent on a larger reference library. I have to admit that is the first time I have ever seen something like that in an ad for a law firm. After a day of dealing with CA he just might need a good stiff drink but I think it would be more appropriate and professional if he kept it in a closed cabinet out of site. JMO

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/fondo-videos.html

[RR0004]

Jb, good job winner!
Not that it matters, he wasn't going to get anywhere with it.

[Devorahhh]

"Eyewitness News also learned that Baez was almost an hour late for the sentencing of his client, Nilton Diaz, in a Lake County child abuse death the day Anthony was released the first time. That same day, Baez shoved a reporter. He also kept the Lake County judge, the victim's family and witnesses waiting. When he arrived, he made no apology."

Wow, so hes defending another child killer case at almost the same time as this one. I can almost bet he has no sympathy or compassion for Caylee at all.

Being late for court is not so unusual,having worked in the court system for over 30 years. Many lawyers are scheduled to appear in several different courtrooms at 8:30 in the morning and they just go with the flow. As far as Baez is concerned, he had his date set with the one client, not knowing that he would have to appear at KC's bond hearing that same day. Again, not so unusual for times to overlap

[ZooMomology]

CASEY'S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST
9/18
http://www.wftv.com/news/17497948/detail.html


I was just coming to post this, you beat me to the punch. What a ............ fill in with whatever you would like. :waitasec:

[woodland1]

I would like to know when and who contacted this lawyer, to see if he was contacted before the july 16th date as this would confirm that they new prior to the 911 calls.. just a question i have in my mind

[Love_Mama]

I believe that JB is the closest one to the truth. There is a good chance that he doesn't know the truth, but does he want to?

If JB were to take a lie detector test what questions would you ask him?

Do you know where Caylee is? JB: No...
Most likely true

Do you believe that your client knows where Caylee is? JB: No...
Most likely false

Have you personally benefited, in any way due to your representation of Casey? JB: No...
Completely false

Of course these are just my opinions in how he would answer, but I would be very interested in hearing others opinions or questions/answers they would ask or expect.
SFW, no attorney in his right mind would do a Lie detector test, not even admissable in Court. xxxxxxxooo mama :blowkiss:

[passin_through]

Hope it's ok to add this to thread, I find it interesting since Casey has that new Zanny,Sammy and kids script story that Rob and LP have talked about.

Baez: Aug 23rd video
"The corporation of the promoters at the Fusian night club which Tony L is tied into so on and so forth. If you pull up their corporate records the addresses that some of the officers belong to are at the Sawgrass apartments. I mean it's a phenomenal coincidence."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O83FuykGbs8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O83FuykGbs8) 5:08 into video

I keep puzzling on what he's implying, if anything. Is he suspicious of Tony L? Just the officers? Both Tony L and the officers? Or is he just commenting that it's interesting odds?

As of July 27nd, according to Casey (if she can be believed) she had not told Baez a different story than her original.

* jail tape of her brothers visit July 28*
CASEY ANTHONY: My gut feeling? As mom asked me yesterday and even Jose asked me last night, the psychologist asked me this morning that I meet with through the court -- in my gut, she's still OK. And it still feels like she's close to home.

[curiositycat]

Being late for court is not so unusual,having worked in the court system for over 30 years. Many lawyers are scheduled to appear in several different courtrooms at 8:30 in the morning and they just go with the flow. As far as Baez is concerned, he had his date set with the one client, not knowing that he would have to appear at KC's bond hearing that same day. Again, not so unusual for times to overlap
I understand what you are saying. Isn't the sentencing of a client a pretty serious matter. I still don't understand him putting Casey ahead of this situation. :waitasec:

[Dr. Pennypacker]

KC and JB holding hands in this video...right in the beginning just as they're about to get in the car. Come on!


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/My...1&locale=EN-US

:eek: NO!!! :eek:

[Amster]

Jose would have been at the other court appointment if he hadn't felt the need to pick up Casey at home. Looking for media attention, Jose?

[tutti]

Baez in front of house surrounded by reporters

[Devorahhh]

I understand what you are saying. Isn't the sentencing of a client a pretty serious matter. I still don't understand him putting Casey ahead of this situation. :waitasec:

Lots of times it is a matter of getting from point A to Point B. He drove from Kissimmee to the OCJ which is just a few miles from where he is, then he drove to Lake Co. I do agree, he should have just let the BG's get her home, he didn't have to do that on his own. (if he did, not sure who dropped her off actually)

[Terilee]

I posted this on the general thread too, I saw a snippet this morning on Fox that Geraldo has interviewed JB on his boat. Does anyone have a link? TIA (to clarify, it's Geraldo's boat)

Here is link to video.
His wife's name is Lorraine (I beleive)
She's no Casey (hehe.lol) but shes alright.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OLOhoV8mE

[tbthow]

Here is link to video.
His wife's name is Lorraine (I beleive)
She's no Casey (hehe.lol) but shes alright.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2OLOhoV8mE

Thanks for the link!

However, I don't know how long you have had your siggie but it could get ya in trouble suggesting someone to kill another person. Even if it is sarcastic.

I'm not trying to sound like a snob just sayin.

[ZooMomology]

I was just watching the video on this page, labeled, meeting with home confinement officer. They show a clip of last week, Casey being arrested. Did I correctly see Jose Give Casey his briefcase before closing the door to go to
his side to get in?

Do lawyers usually give their briefcases to persons of interest?

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/22/casey_anthony_learns_terms_of_confinement.html

[crimesolver4U]

Jose Baez sees Casey as having dollar signs. When she threatened to get another attorney when she was in prison before being bonded out the first time, he realized he was going to lose the potential to make a lot of money, and he found Padilla to bond her out. He does not really care I dont think whether he wins or loses. He knows this is a case he cant win. What he does realize is that he could bring in a few million dollars in income on this case. He is negotiating deals for movies and other things for Casey, and although she cant profit if convicted, she can possibly profit now. I am sure he has arranged for retainers and fees due to cover his expenses. He is billing for all the hours he babysits Caylee in his office and for all her bodyguards to take her to and from jail

[tttterri]

It''s ok. I believe it is just a matter of time before Casey gets sick of him and changes lawyers. She will get bored!

[GizzySmith]

This belongs here http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68453&highlight=Baez

[Gaia713]

Jose Baez sees Casey as having dollar signs. When she threatened to get another attorney when she was in prison before being bonded out the first time, he realized he was going to lose the potential to make a lot of money, and he found Padilla to bond her out. He does not really care I dont think whether he wins or loses. He knows this is a case he cant win. What he does realize is that he could bring in a few million dollars in income on this case. He is negotiating deals for movies and other things for Casey, and although she cant profit if convicted, she can possibly profit now. I am sure he has arranged for retainers and fees due to cover his expenses. He is billing for all the hours he babysits Caylee in his office and for all her bodyguards to take her to and from jail
Casey was NEVER in prison. She was in jail. They are two very separate types of incarceration.

[monoxide]

Baez is doing all this, spending all his time with Casey, making the case dramatic was possible in order to make it as dramatic as possible to put it into a television show or movie

[nursebeeme]

This belongs here http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68453&highlight=Baez bump:blowkiss:

[mkay882]

:waitasec:
Of course Baez doesn't care.

No attorney 'cares' about anything...pretaining to their clients and their crimes.... but the outcome of the case.

The defense wants a NG verdict, and the prosecution wants a G one.

He is doing his job....including billing for hours spent with Casey in his office.
.
Nothing more, nothing less.

[NancyT]

Well, I'd bet he's also doing it for the free publicity, too. So, he probably does indeed care how it turns out. If he could win this, he'd be rated one of the top defense attorneys in the country. Not too bad from nobody to the top almost overnight.

[GirlinCentralFL]

I would like to know when and who contacted this lawyer, to see if he was contacted before the july 16th date as this would confirm that they new prior to the 911 calls.. just a question i have in my mind


From what I heard he was picked by Casey from the jail board. His card was tacked onto the bulletin board. I think she made a lousy choice.

[krimekat]

Ambulance Chaser in the finest!

[BeanE]

*falls out of chair*

Well... that's very good news, JB. Wish you'd told us weeks ago.

Somebody pass me a couple drinks, please?


ETA: fixed title mistake

also, did anybody tape this? I haven't started drinking yet, but surely I heard this wrong(???!!!!) Please tell me I heard this wrong? Please?

They finally put up a link. It's on this page http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032633/

called Casey Anthony's lawyer speaks out

[angelmom]

*falls out of chair*

Well... that's very good news, JB. Wish you'd told us weeks ago.

Somebody pass me a couple drinks, please?


WTF??? Um, yeah, since that's what your LIAR of a client told LE.

Does he think anyone is buying this crap?

[MagicRose99]

Quote: JB just on Today Show: We're all assuming Casey is missing and not ok!?!

Casey or Caylee?

[not_my_kids]

Can we change the title...It's Caylee, not Casey.

[Lexington]

This is so ridiculous. At this point, everyone who opens their mouths is talking nonsense. It's better not to hear from them at all.

[mydailyopinions]

*falls out of chair*

Well... that's very good news, JB. Wish you'd told us weeks ago.

Somebody pass me a couple drinks, please?

Do you mean he said Caylee missing and not okay?
See, this is what gets me, if they know by any means that this child is alive, and they are refusing to share that information with LE, why the heck can't they be charged? Baez tries to say his focus is on finding Caylee, I couldn't see him doing that at all. Sometimes you would think that morals should come before your job...especially in this circumstance..How anyone can just hold out information on a missing child just confuses me to no end..
Baez sucks...as does his client..

I meant to quote the OP..
sorry for that..

[JenninFla]

Quote: JB just on Today Show: We're all assuming Casey is missing and not ok!?!

Casey or Caylee?

thats what I was wondering.

[BeanE]

Can we change the title...It's Caylee, not Casey.

Sorry. God what a mistake to make. I just can't believe what I heard though and it has me rattled. Fixed now.

Thanks!

[mydailyopinions]

Sorry. God what a mistake to make. I just can't believe what I heard though and it has me rattled. Fixed now.

Thanks!

Funny though, if it were Casey missing, we would all just assume that some Nanny who has a bad habit of running over squirrels, eating pizza out of her car, and handing out scripts took her to Disney for a while..I don't think too many people would be concerned with a trusted Nanny do you? I know I wouldn't...

[not_my_kids]

Sorry. God what a mistake to make. I just can't believe what I heard though and it has me rattled. Fixed now.

Thanks!

That's okay, for some ungodly reason I was calling Lee Larry yesterday.
We all get frazzled. :blowkiss:

[Lexington]

I was about to jump for joy that Casey was missing and not okay.

[GizzySmith]

"We're all assuming Caylee is missing and not ok!?!"

This quote has been said before. Can't remember if it was Baez or someone else. Anyone with better memory than me?

Is he assuming that Caylee is missing, or does he know that as a fact?

[secreteye]

*falls out of chair*

Well... that's very good news, JB. Wish you'd told us weeks ago.

Somebody pass me a couple drinks, please?


ETA: fixed title mistake

also, did anybody tape this? I haven't started drinking yet, but surely I heard this wrong(???!!!!) Please tell me I heard this wrong? Please?




Is there a link?

[BeanE]

Do you mean he said Caylee missing and not okay?
See, this is what gets me, if they know by any means that this child is alive, and they are refusing to share that information with LE, why the heck can't they be charged? Baez tries to say his focus is on finding Caylee, I couldn't see him doing that at all. Sometimes you would think that morals should come before your job...especially in this circumstance..How anyone can just hold out information on a missing child just confuses me to no end..
Baez sucks...as does his client..

I meant to quote the OP..
sorry for that..

That's what I heard. We are all assuming Caylee was missing and not ok when we say that Casey should have called LE.

He also said if someone is threatening a mother to harm her child she will do whatever she is told to do.

And he was smiling that snotty little smile I just want to smack right off his face when he said these things. Ugh.

I hope they replay this, or somebody else saw it, or somebody taped it.

I really need a break from this case. I'm serious. It's really gotten to me.

[Pink Panther]

*falls out of chair*

Well... that's very good news, JB. Wish you'd told us weeks ago.

Somebody pass me a couple drinks, please?


ETA: fixed title mistake

also, did anybody tape this? I haven't started drinking yet, but surely I heard this wrong(???!!!!) Please tell me I heard this wrong? Please?

Well...We've perhaps come a long way? At the very least they are now admitting that the fact that she is missing is not ok. WOW. Unbelievable. Is this part of the "media blitz" now? There isn't very much that he can say or do at this point to paint either his client or her family in a more favorable light. He would do best to keep quiet. MOO

[Can't Sleep]

Did not see it. (sob) Can anyone elaborate a little? I was too busy watching the webcam.

Can't Sleep <--Not too bright

[BeanE]

Is there a link?

I watch the Today show every morning. This was a brief maybe 5 minute piece where Matt L went to Michelle K with an exclusive interview with JB.

I'm keeping it on to see if it replays. I didn't know this was going to be on, so didn't come here first for a thread for watchers. Wish I had.

I'll keep checking the Today show website for a link, and post if they put one up.

ETA: just searched Today show site and MSNBC.com every way I could think of, and nothing yet. Will keep checking.

[Dutchie Treat]

I was about to jump for joy that Casey was missing and not okay.


LMAO!

:woohoo:

[Lynkei]

Maybe he meant Casey is missing brain cells and not okay.

[passin_through]

Sometimes you would think that morals should come before your job

Nah way. Sell your soul for a dime, there is no room for morals--work your whole life to be a liar and represent a liar. That's what it is about.

Stand tall in the muck, who cares about a baby girl. It's all about name. You want to sell your name for that?!

The devil waits for you....

[Bobby62]

Mr. Baez is trying to create reasonable doubt. Creating reasonable doubt is done by giving a believable scenario, other than the suspected one, that,may have occurred. The forensics that we know so far make this unbelievable. Mr. Baez wasted his and everyone elses time with this appearance.

Or maybe his time was not wasted. I assume these were billable hours.

[Law_girl41]

Mr. Baez is trying to create reasonable doubt. Creating reasonable doubt is done by giving a believable scenario, other than the suspected one, that,may have occurred. The forensics that we know so far make this unbelievable. Mr. Baez wasted his and everyone elses time with this appearance.

Or maybe his time was not wasted. I assume these were billable hours.

agree, a total waste of time and he knows it. 90% of the public believe Caylee is no longer living. btw, when the new docs come out.....its gonna be like 95% of the people. His attempt to broaden believers that she is kidnapped is a JOKE!!! What a Waste Biaz, A HUGE WASTE!!

[mydailyopinions]

That's what I heard. We are all assuming Caylee was missing and not ok when we say that Casey should have called LE.

He also said if someone is threatening a mother to harm her child she will do whatever she is told to do.

And he was smiling that snotty little smile I just want to smack right off his face when he said these things. Ugh.

I hope they replay this, or somebody else saw it, or somebody taped it.

I really need a break from this case. I'm serious. It's really gotten to me.
That snotty smile will go away soon I think, and after he screwed up the filing of that paperwork, I am surprised he would go back into public right now with any kind of statement..

Sometimes you would think that morals should come before your job

Nah way. Sell your soul for a dime, there is no room for morals--work your whole life to be a liar and represent a liar. That's what it is about.

Stand tall in the muck, who cares about a baby girl. It's all about name. You want to sell your name for that?!

The devil waits for ypu.

I guess that defense lawyers do deserve a little credit..I swear there is just no way I could be one..
I wonder how they train these people to stand and defend murderers and child molesters? I just don't see how morally they can do that..I guess money is the root of all evil..Sad, really sad...
Still, even understanding his role in all of this, and understanding that every criminal has the right to an attorney, how can they allow money and fame come between a baby's well being? I don't think I'll ever understand that..
:bang:

[Gummishoe]

"Jose Baez, She did what any good mother would do!"
Nevermind the drink get me my hip boots........

:behindbar

"No proof Caylee is dead, No proof that KC can tell the truth either! So which is it Jose?

[GirlinCentralFL]

Just wanted to post this fax I found the JB sent about his displeasure of the release off all these audio and documents. I had to laugh at the first sentence. He calls himself a "Veteran Lawyer"

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf

[Muzikman]

Just wanted to post this fax I found the JB sent about his displeasure of the release off all these audio and documents. I had to laugh at the first sentence. He calls himself a "Veteran Lawyer"

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf

I saw that. The whole press release is a joke!

Can't he hire ANYBODY that's competent?

[OneLostGrl]

JB is a joke!

[Lake Erie Princess]

Just wanted to post this fax I found the JB sent about his displeasure of the release off all these audio and documents. I had to laugh at the first sentence. He calls himself a "Veteran Lawyer"

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf

I don't know about "veteran," but I hope he does not get any STD's while he is defending this piece of work.

Movie deals, and media exposure for Baez and the family of Casey. Does Jose really think if he wins this case that he will have the respect of the public ? Not on your life IMO !
The public will never respect Jose in any manner. His defense of Casey has to be, but is revolting IMO ! IMO she is as guilty as sin from all of the circumstancial evidence we have read and heard.

He is defending an alleged child murder, and the only respect he will gain is from those in organized crime. I feel he is a first class sleeze, SCUM !

[BonKai]

Just wanted to post this fax I found the JB sent about his displeasure of the release off all these audio and documents. I had to laugh at the first sentence. He calls himself a "Veteran Lawyer"

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf

It made me laugh as well. The ENTIRE press release made me laugh. Of course they are not going to release DNA or Chloroform reports. They are saving that for a GJ.

"The Baez law firm is, nevertheless, examining each line for accuracy." How are they going to verify the accuracy? According to what his client tells him? :floorlaugh:

[nachomama]

Just wanted to post this fax I found the JB sent about his displeasure of the release off all these audio and documents. I had to laugh at the first sentence. He calls himself a "Veteran Lawyer"

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf

Good old Jose should try to get a partnership with the Law Firm of Dewey, Cheatum and Howe. This guy is so stuck on himslf (and KC) that he is sickening to both see and hear. When this case goes to trial.. the prosicution is gonna make a MONKEY out of the self proclaimed "Veteran Lawyer"

[whiteangora]

He almost comes right out and says the taped interviews and written documents might have been altered.
Then he goes on to speak of his deep respect for LE.
Sounds like Casey has found a soul mate.

[magiemay]

But he has made no response to the news that was released yesterday about there being iron clad proof that would be released shortly showing that not only was Cylee in the trunk of that car but what position she was in while in the trunk??? Come on Jose speak to us!!

[nachomama]

He almost comes right out and says the taped interviews and written documents might have been altered.
Then he goes on to speak of his deep respect for LE.
Sounds like Casey has found a soul mate.

Yep... y'all know the old saying "If you can't dazzle with brilliance..... you baffle with bull sh*t "

[OcalaMom]

Just wanted to post this fax I found the JB sent about his displeasure of the release off all these audio and documents. I had to laugh at the first sentence. He calls himself a "Veteran Lawyer"

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/0926/17567359.pdf

That made me LOL..a veteran lawyer?

He's been in practice for like, what, 3 years!! :bang:

[princess]

Casey makes a rare Saturday visit with Jose

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

:waitasec:

[Short_Stuff]

Casey makes a rare Saturday visit with Jose

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

:waitasec:

I just love how she does anything she wants, while Caylee lies dead somewhere. Its so sickening.

[ZooMomology]

I don't know about "veteran," but I hope he does not get any STD's while he is defending this piece of work.

Movie deals, and media exposure for Baez and the family of Casey. Does Jose really think if he wins this case that he will have the respect of the public ? Not on your life IMO !
The public will never respect Jose in any manner. His defense of Casey has to be, but is revolting IMO ! IMO she is as guilty as sin from all of the circumstancial evidence we have read and heard.

He is defending an alleged child murder, and the only respect he will gain is from those in organized crime. I feel he is a first class sleeze, SCUM !

And, I am of the belief, he knows exactly where Caylee's little body is laying to further decompose. I despise KC, but Baez makes my skin crawl.

So does Nejames, another stellar individual, NOT.

[Gaia713]

I don't think he's court appointed.

I believe Casey chose him.

He's probably representing Casey pro bono, for the massive publicity this case is getting.


I can't help but think there is something totally unethical going on for 6 hours a day every day at his office. He could not possibly have any other clients given the amount of time he is spending with Casey.

I don't think he is a very good attorney. I am not an attorney and I know you can't file a motion to test evdience on charges that have not been filed. If he were good, he wouldn't be in a storefront in Kissimmee - he'd be in an office building near the courthouse. jmo

[Gaia713]

Has he allowed LE access to his client yet? This is what I personally care about....this man was chosen because he pled a mother who murdered her child down to manslaughter. This makes him a good choice for this case IMO. I could do that and I am not even a lawyer. People just dont' want to believe that a mother can murder her own child.

[Gaia713]

It's my understanding that Casey has never been in general population ......right ??? So how could she have gotten JB number from a fellow inmate ?? Before actually going into a jail cell, you are held in a holding tank - usually with other people. Booking takes quite a while.

[Gaia713]

Maybe Geragos. Another attorney whose track record with child killers is very poor.

[Gaia713]

I think its terrible that the man who murdered the childl only got 15 years. He should never see the light of day out of jail. So perhaps Baez did a better job than we think to get such a light sentence. Can you imagine an innocent child who gets their head bashed in by their father is a crime only punishable by 15 years in prison?

Still it is the ATTORNEYs responsibility to be there for his client in court. And he clearly waws not. SHAME ON HIM

[Gaia713]

Please forgive me if this has been posted previously regarding JB.

On his website he says that he started working in the public defenders office in Miami in 1995. The office said he wasn't hired until 1997.

JB explanation is that he started interning there (during the summers) in 1995. He interned with attorneys. He was allowed to try cases with a "real" attorney before passing the bar. So, the cases that were won while he interned is included in his statistics appearing on his web page.

He passed the bar 8 years after graduating law school.

He should only include the cases he has won when he sat first chair. Talk about spin!!!!!!!!!

JMO

BeagleMom

EDight years after graduating law school? He must be pretty stupid cuz I have a relative (average intelligence) who passed the Florida Bar the first time. When I heard that, I lost a lot of respect for attorenys in Florida.

[Gaia713]

I agree. The site appears to be very misleading re how long he has been admitted to practise. IMOO A lawyer can lawyer for a client but they cannot appear in court for a client until they pass the bar. They usually work UNDER an attorney who has passed the bar. Baez could have been a file clerk for all we know. Since he, like his client, can't tell anything honestly.

[Gaia713]

I recently just found out that his last defendant (the child murder case) worked with me. I worked with him when it all went down and when he was convicted. I remember people talking about the trial when it was going on. The only opinion I have about him (the defendant) is that he was a hard worker, but was a little smug. Most people at my company loved this guy though and went to his trial everyday. Most people around here thought he would be found innocent and everyone was shocked when he was found guilty. They all said his lawyer was not very good.
Now that he is KC's attorney too, I hear coworkers of mine talking about how bad of a lawyer he was and how in the world did he get involved with this case.
This leads me to ask, what is the back story on Jose Baez? How long has he been an attorney and how many cases has he tried and what is his success rate?

When comtemplating a defense attorney's success rate, be aware that they consider getting someone off on a lesser offense is a win. Their success rate has nothing to do with gettting a not guilty plea.

Mark Geragos still considers the trial with Cameron Brown a win - it was a mistrial (he jury said guilty,but couldn't agree on the degree of guilt) and he will simply be retried because the jury was hung. If I were Cameron Brown, I wouldn't consider that a "win" or even a "success"

[Gaia713]

"News 13 asked Press Corp Media, the group representing the Baez law firm, if the Anthony family was paying for his services out of pocket or if he was doing it for free. They said how Baez gets paid is none of the public's business."

snipped from:
http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/11/casey_anthony_facing_new_charges.html
In other words, he isn't get paid in money - maybe in services?

[Gaia713]

Only for costs such as costs of depositions, not for representing her. They can also get the state to pay for THEIR experts - Mark Geragos did that.

[Gaia713]

I remember LP, when asked if there was something going on between KC and JB said "No way, his wife is gorgeous" LOL But maybe she's not a good pole dancer.

[Gaia713]

I understand what you are saying. Isn't the sentencing of a client a pretty serious matter. I still don't understand him putting Casey ahead of this situation. :waitasec:
What makes it even worse to me is not that he was meeting with another client or in a different court, but he was just following Casey home!!!!! Not exactly doing anything legal in that. Being her "protector" and "hero" is not in the job description of a lawyer. His duty is to represent his clients in court, not on the raods of Florida.

[Gaia713]

I see some of the same arrogance in him that I see in the Anthony family...in other words he obviously felt there was no need to apologize because he had not done anything wrong. Not!! Seems like a good way to tick off some judges to me which is the last thing a lawyer wants to do.

After watching the video on his site, personally I think that Baez attempts to put on a front of being a big shot, high paid attorney when he really isn't. Compared to many seasoned criminal defense attorneys he is still a rookie and may well be way over his head on this case IMO. Eight years after law school to take the bar huh. Anyone know if that was his first attempt at passing the bar exam? Oh and if he really wants to look like a professional, I really think he needs to ditch the crystal liquor decanters and glasses that are highly visible on the credenzas directly behind the desks of each of the attorneys in his firm in the video. I wonder if he has to lock up the booze when CA is in the office. The other guy's office looks kind of pitiful when you look at the arrangement of books on his bookcase. Three measley little law books centered on each shelf but the crystal decanters are sure there for all to see. Seems to me that the money would have been better spent on a larger reference library. I have to admit that is the first time I have ever seen something like that in an ad for a law firm. After a day of dealing with CA he just might need a good stiff drink but I think it would be more appropriate and professional if he kept it in a closed cabinet out of site. JMO

http://www.baezlawfirm.com/fondo-videos.html I have an accountaqnt who has more law books in his office than they have!!! A defen's attorneys job is to get his client off - it's not about justice. Alan Dershowitz even says that most defense clients are guilty - it's the defense attorney's job to make sure they get a fair trial. I feel dirty just watching him.

[Gaia713]

Hope it's ok to add this to thread, I find it interesting since Casey has that new Zanny,Sammy and kids script story that Rob and LP have talked about.

Baez: Aug 23rd video
"The corporation of the promoters at the Fusian night club which Tony L is tied into so on and so forth. If you pull up their corporate records the addresses that some of the officers belong to are at the Sawgrass apartments. I mean it's a phenomenal coincidence."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O83FuykGbs8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O83FuykGbs8) 5:08 into video

I keep puzzling on what he's implying, if anything. Is he suspicious of Tony L? Just the officers? Both Tony L and the officers? Or is he just commenting that it's interesting odds?

As of July 27nd, according to Casey (if she can be believed) she had not told Baez a different story than her original.

* jail tape of her brothers visit July 28*
CASEY ANTHONY: My gut feeling? As mom asked me yesterday and even Jose asked me last night, the psychologist asked me this morning that I meet with through the court -- in my gut, she's still OK. And it still feels like she's close to home.
He's trying to take the focus off Casey and onto ANYONE else.

[Gaia713]

Mr. Baez is trying to create reasonable doubt. Creating reasonable doubt is done by giving a believable scenario, other than the suspected one, that,may have occurred. The forensics that we know so far make this unbelievable. Mr. Baez wasted his and everyone elses time with this appearance.

Or maybe his time was not wasted. I assume these were billable hours.


REASONABLE, Not FANTASY

[Gaia713]

It made me laugh as well. The ENTIRE press release made me laugh. Of course they are not going to release DNA or Chloroform reports. They are saving that for a GJ.

"The Baez law firm is, nevertheless, examining each line for accuracy." How are they going to verify the accuracy? According to what his client tells him? :floorlaugh:



ROFLMAO. Anyone with an ounce of intelligence KNOWS you can't get discovery for a charge that hasn't been made yet. He must think everyone is as stupid as he is.

I love hearing defense attorneys whine about not getting discovery when they already have it.

Had a friend who went back to school to be a lawyer late in life. She started out wanted to be a criminal defense attorney. She never did. She now takes on falsely accused child neglect cases. Since all it takes is an anonymous accusation in any child abuse, neglect case, the standard of proof is much lower than in a criminal court. Almost every child custody argument includes claims of abuse, neglect by the opposite parent. Once in this system, they do not let go without a lawyer representing them.

[Gaia713]

Casey makes a rare Saturday visit with Jose

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

:waitasec: Interesting that when she was in jail, she'd spend an hourr- hour and a half with him. Now that she's out, she neeeds SIX HOURS a day?

[GirlinCentralFL]

Casey makes a rare Saturday visit with Jose

http://www.wftv.com/news/17564624/detail.html

:waitasec:

Was this the first time she met with him this week? I don't think she left the house at all this week if I am not mistaken. I wonder what story they concocted today.

[Pixie_Dust]

in all the high profile cases i have never seen a client spend that many hours at there lawyers office that many times!! Can anyone else recall any?

[TimeWillTell]

It is my opinion that IF KC at anytime was going to crack all hope of that was diminished once JB came into the picture. Because of him she doesn't have to be accountable for her actions or lies to anyone INCLUDING HER PARENTS which I find ridiculous! He is her "great protector" and for Cindy to fall for his BS saying oh well she can't talk to you because it would put you at risk for disrupting justice.... or whatever it was he said. PUUULEEEEEZE! Not to mention he drives me nuts with his little smirks. He says he wants to find Caylee, well I call BS on that one because now that he's around KC will NEVER tell!

[mydailyopinions]

It is my opinion that IF KC at anytime was going to crack all hope of that was diminished once JB came into the picture. Because of him she doesn't have to be accountable for her actions or lies to anyone INCLUDING HER PARENTS which I find ridiculous! He is her "great protector" and for Cindy to fall for his BS saying oh well she can't talk to you because it would put you at risk for disrupting justice.... or whatever it was he said. PUUULEEEEEZE! Not to mention he drives me nuts with his little smirks. He says he wants to find Caylee, well I call BS on that one because now that he's around KC will NEVER tell!
There is nothing that Baez has done since the beginning of this that would make me believe he is trying to find Caylee.
Just as one of the above posters said, "his job is to get his client off":boohoo:
I wish this man had enough morals though, to put a child above his client..In my opinion, he would be more noted for doing the right thing, than focusing on getting Casey off..
I understand his job, yet don't understand why he hasn't backed out of it..He knows she is fried..why try to come up with more BS?:confused:
Maybe he will turn to the good side when all this is over? :dance: