View Full Version : Maricopa Jane Doe Thread #7
Fairy1
08-16-2008, 03:26 AM
Somebody wanted to know if she had and accent and when I stated that I didn't think that many people in the Midwest had an accent I got all kinds of rebuttal soooooo yes I said that. :rolleyes: I do agree we all have some sort of an accent but not one that would be noticeable enough for one to say "Oh hey you are from Nebraska or Kansas" I am sure the car dealer didn't say "Oh she must be from Kansas" when he heard them arguing. :clown:
TL - accents are a complicated issue. At one time I felt that it would be important to know in this case. However, unless it was a FOREIGN accent, I'm not sure it's crucial to identifying MJD. US residents are very transient so an accent may not be all-telling. As I stated last night, I once had a midwestern accent - not because I came from the midwest, but because my parents did. It was only certain words - very subtle - but I got a lot of flack for it when we moved to the southwest. Over time, my whole family - parents included - adjusted to it. No trace of the former "accent." Have you lived in NE your whole life?
Teresa Larson
08-16-2008, 03:40 AM
TL - accents are a complicated issue. At one time I felt that it would be important to know in this case. However, unless it was a FOREIGN accent, I'm not sure it's crucial to identifying MJD. US residents are very transient so an accent may not be all-telling. As I stated last night, I once had a midwestern accent - not because I came from the midwest, but because my parents did. It was only certain words - very subtle - but I got a lot of flack for it when we moved to the southwest. Over time, my whole family - parents included - adjusted to it. No trace of the former "accent." Have you lived in NE your whole life?
Yes I have only lived in Nebraska but I have been all over the United States for years. Especially in the eastern part and their accents are much more noticeable just as the people from the southern states is very noticeable. The point I was trying to make when the accent issue was first brought up was that even if she had much of an accent it's doubtful the car dealer would have noticed if she was from the Midwest because I don't think ours is as noticeable as other areas and really how much would he have heard MJD say or even remember after this many years? I just don't think this would help us ID MJD IMO :)
Fairy1
08-16-2008, 03:51 AM
Yes I have only lived in Nebraska but I have been all over the United States for years. Especially in the eastern part and their accents are much more noticeable just as the people from the southern states is very noticeable. The point I was trying to make when the accent issue was first brought up was that even if she had much of an accent it's doubtful the car dealer would have noticed if she was from the Midwest because I don't think ours is as noticeable as other areas and really how much would he have heard MJD say or even remember after this many years? I just don't think this would help us ID MJD IMO :)
I was mostly thinking about what Lindsey and Alonzo remembered. But I think they're not being 100% truthful, so I guess it doesn't really matter. My point is, her accent - if she had a noticable accent - may not be important at all. IMO :)
Teresa Larson
08-16-2008, 03:59 AM
My LE contact has had email trouble, plus being out of town.
They've talked to Robin Angers again. This time she says MJD's name is Dawn or Donna and she's from Kansas, maybe Wichita area. She also gave them the name of MJD's pimp (not KTL). They talked to him too. He remembered her:), but not her name:mad:.
Alonzo/William is back in the Grey Bar Hotel, soon to be in Maricopa Co. again. :behindbar ...
...to be continued
Who was her pimp then if it wasn't KTL?????? :furious:
Teresa Larson
08-16-2008, 04:02 AM
I do not believe a word Alonzo or Lindsey have said to police. They know what happened and I am sure they know who MJD is also. It's strange that all of a sudden Robin says she thinks her name was Dawn or Donna. That name would be more believable because of the initials on the ring. She doesn't sound too credible either Of course any of the people in that kind of life style are questionable to say the least.
VASHLEY88
08-16-2008, 03:24 PM
Been out for a while guys, busy busy. Great work so far, everyone! Someone had said in a previous post that RA probably changed her story or recalled more because she thought MJD wouldn't have gone this long without being identified. I have to agree. They may have had info that seemed irrelevant at the time, too. But after almost 10 years, I believe EVERY bit of information is crucial if we want to get our girl a name.
Wanted to post to let y'all know that I contacted Missouri Child Welfare/social services and gave them the information on MJD's case. I told them that she may have been from the Kansas City area. So hopefully they can browse the archives of foster children who may have fallen through the cracks of the foster care system, or maybe know her from the streets. I'll let you guys know if I get any good news!
VASHLEY88
08-16-2008, 03:40 PM
Phenol- I read your post and the article you posted. Thank you, that was very insightful. That may very well be MJD's story,as well as may others. She did indeed meet the profile, for sure. It makes me sad that she probably was just a young, naive girl looking for someone to love and take care of her, and some scummy pimp realized that and coherced and manipulated her into a crappy lifestyle. As much as I wish she was alive to tell her story.. reading those articles and watching documentaries on ex prostitutes.. they are so eternally traumatized that maybe it was better she didn't have to live like that and she is in a better place now, and you can't help but wonder if she is watching us down here desperately seeking a name for her. If she isn't here walking the earth, she is at least a part of us. :)
Angie4b1g
08-16-2008, 05:53 PM
Especially when you're younger, accents adapt easily and quickly. I must be impressionable or something because I pick up traits of an accent the first day I'm somewhere. lol
VASHLEY88
08-16-2008, 06:11 PM
Especially when you're younger, accents adapt easily and quickly. I must be impressionable or something because I pick up traits of an accent the first day I'm somewhere. lol
ME TOO! :crazy:
BeavisMom62
08-16-2008, 08:14 PM
Well, not necessarily. I was born in the NW and moved to Nevada when I was a kid. I got teased plenty for some of my own inflections once in Nevada. However.....my accent was not NW'ern but I think because both of my folks were from the midwest. Whatever dialect I had was not from the northwest, but from the midwest, even though I never lived in the midwest!
A little O/T, but I don't even know what kind of accent I have now. I grew up in Pittsburgh and had an accent, but tried to lose it. Moved to Savannah and readily picked up a southern accent with no problem. I was in the army and exposed to many different accents. Now I live in Florida, so I lost the pittsburgh accent, lost the southern accent, but if I'm speaking with someone from Pgh or someone from the south, it comes right back!
BeavisMom62
08-16-2008, 08:24 PM
Sorry, but Karma is a...you know...:rolleyes: He will be where he belongs until our little peach has a stone with her name, please God.
awww... believe, I LOVE that! I've never heard that saying before. It is sweet, beautiful and apt.
fmw63
08-16-2008, 08:32 PM
Who was her pimp then if it wasn't KTL?????? :furious:
My cell phone wasn't too clear at that point, but I think the name is Ronnie Phelps. Did a search and he seems like he's been in & out of trouble for a while.
Fairy1
08-16-2008, 10:19 PM
My cell phone wasn't too clear at that point, but I think the name is Ronnie Phelps. Did a search and he seems like he's been in & out of trouble for a while.
Hi all! Well, guess we have yet another scumbag to look at now. I'm off to do that right now! :D
Fairy1
08-16-2008, 10:55 PM
I don't find anything on Ronnie Phelps! fmw - can you tell us where this fellow has been in and out of trouble???
SassyAnne
08-16-2008, 10:56 PM
A little O/T, but I don't even know what kind of accent I have now. I grew up in Pittsburgh and had an accent, but tried to lose it. Moved to Savannah and readily picked up a southern accent with no problem. I was in the army and exposed to many different accents. Now I live in Florida, so I lost the pittsburgh accent, lost the southern accent, but if I'm speaking with someone from Pgh or someone from the south, it comes right back!
I know exactly what you mean, I was an Air force brat. Every time I get ticked, I sound like I am from the Bronx. When I am extremely happy, I tend to have a southern drawl. I have tried really hard to lose my accents, but depending on my mood I just "slip" into whatever accent. It totally rots sometimes cuz I am always get asked "where are you from?" :banghead:
Fairy1
08-16-2008, 11:10 PM
I know exactly what you mean, I was an Air force brat. Every time I get ticked, I sound like I am from the Bronx. When I am extremely happy, I tend to have a southern drawl. I have tried really hard to lose my accents, but depending on my mood I just "slip" into whatever accent. It totally rots sometimes cuz I am always get asked "where are you from?" :banghead:
So, I guess unless she had a foreign accent, we shouldn't focus too much on this point, huh? And if Robin thought she was from Kansas, it probably wasn't foreign. Then again, I suppose that depends on your feelings about Kansas! :crazy:
Teresa Larson
08-17-2008, 12:04 AM
I don't find anything on Ronnie Phelps! fmw - can you tell us where this fellow has been in and out of trouble???
In the state of Arizona He has over 20 alias Search under Ronald Phelps He has a long long list of charges all from AZ I wonder if he, Alonzo and KL were friends :waitasec: He's awaiting charges right now.
jyram
08-17-2008, 12:08 AM
Welcome jyram!:) Great to have you here. What are your thoughts....so far?
I usually just lurk here, but I've read every post in every thread in this case. It is so hard to fathom that this girl has been unidentified for so long. I graduated from high school in 98 and often compare what may have been going on in her life with mine.
I am constantly amazed at the dedication and guts of the posters on this case in particular.
I believe that MJD was probably on the older end of the age scale. I know she is probably swollen and doesn't look exactly like "herself" in the hospital and morgue pics, but she just seems so much older than 15 to me.
There are a lot of things I'd like to believe, such as that she was just getting into life on the streets and hadn't endured very much hardship before her death, that her family is still hoping she's alive and will come back to them someday- its too hard to believe no one would care if she was dead. Of course, I would not wish the heartbreak of losing a loved one on anyone.
I also believe that LDJ and Alonzo where not telling the truth. They had all that time on the road after she jumped/was pushed out (I believe pushed) to come up with a story. They knew they were going to get caught, there were other vehicles around them.
Fairy1
08-17-2008, 12:14 AM
In the state of Arizona He has over 20 alias Search under Ronald Phelps He has a long long list of charges all from AZ I wonder if he, Alonzo and KL were friends :waitasec: He's awaiting charges right now.
Can you post some links???
Teresa Larson
08-17-2008, 12:29 AM
http://www.inmatesplus.com/ Click on the link and then AZ. Type in Ronald (not Ronnie) Phelps He's REALLY been in lots of trouble! They should lock him up and throw the key away IMO
Fairy1
08-17-2008, 12:39 AM
http://www.inmatesplus.com/ Click on the link and then AZ. Type in Ronald (not Ronnie) Phelps He's REALLY been in lots of trouble! They should lock him up and throw the key away IMO
I can only find a Rodney Phelps????
Fairy1
08-17-2008, 12:44 AM
I can only find a Rodney Phelps????
Found him:
http://test.azcorrections.gov/isearch/inmate_datasearch/results.aspx?InmateNumber=071705&LastName=PHELPS&FNMI=R&SearchType=SearchInet
Thank you, Teresa!
SassyAnne
08-17-2008, 12:51 AM
Hi Fairy1. It could leave us a trail to look at (her accent), I am really hoping that it could narrow the playing field.
SassyAnne
08-17-2008, 12:54 AM
at least ppl have a general idea of where I have been by my accent.
Fairy1
08-17-2008, 01:19 AM
Hi Fairy1. It could leave us a trail to look at (her accent), I am really hoping that it could narrow the playing field.
I would be inclined to agree, except....My husband is also an Airforce brat. He was born in England - to an English mum and American dad. He had an English accent...UNTIL...they moved to Louisiana! There, he acquired a bit of a southern accent....UNTIL....he moved to the southwest US, where he now has no accent, save for the bit of the midwestern he's acquired from his dad from Illinois where he never lived!
Teresa Larson
08-17-2008, 02:51 AM
Found him:
http://test.azcorrections.gov/isearch/inmate_datasearch/results.aspx?InmateNumber=071705&LastName=PHELPS&FNMI=R&SearchType=SearchInet
Thank you, Teresa!
Whoops the link I sent you will find him too BUT you have to click the inactive box. I gave you the instructions for finding the minutes to his court cases LOL I was looking in a few places for him Here is another more detailed link. Look at the minutes http://clerkofcourt.maricopa.gov/default.asp
Fairy1
08-17-2008, 02:52 AM
Whoops the link I sent you will find him too BUT you have to click the inactive box. I gave you the instructions for finding the minutes to his court cases LOL I was looking in a few places for him Here is another more detailed link. Look at the minutes http://clerkofcourt.maricopa.gov/default.asp
No worries. Wish I could find out where he's from! I think that would help us here....
These minutes are very recent in Maricopa county. Another one LE could question - tomorrow.
Teresa Larson
08-17-2008, 04:06 AM
No worries. Wish I could find out where he's from! I think that would help us here....
These minutes are very recent in Maricopa county. Another one LE could question - tomorrow.
I found some info from 1998 up until this year so he has been living there for awhile. Come to think of it I need to look at his address from a few years back and see where it is from Van Buren. :sleuth:
SassyAnne
08-17-2008, 11:36 AM
I would be inclined to agree, except....My husband is also an Airforce brat. He was born in England - to an English mum and American dad. He had an English accent...UNTIL...they moved to Louisiana! There, he acquired a bit of a southern accent....UNTIL....he moved to the southwest US, where he now has no accent, save for the bit of the midwestern he's acquired from his dad from Illinois where he never lived!
There are always the exceptions where a child can get their accent from their parent(s). IF your husband looked like his father enough to be his twin, THEN it would be a good possibility of finding his dad and then going there. That is when a much needed miracle happens. I think that an accent can be very important, but at the same time, given the circumstances like your husband's, very daunting and frustrating. Well gotta go to work, have fun everyone. Thank you fairy1 for getting me the LE report.
dee10134
08-17-2008, 12:16 PM
Somebody wanted to know if she had and accent and when I stated that I didn't think that many people in the Midwest had an accent I got all kinds of rebuttal soooooo yes I said that. :rolleyes: I do agree we all have some sort of an accent but not one that would be noticeable enough for one to say "Oh hey you are from Nebraska or Kansas" I am sure the car dealer didn't say "Oh she must be from Kansas" when he heard them arguing. :clown:
:) My entire point is that ANY little bit of information, be it a recollection of a "country" accent or any other type of accent could help us pinpoint a region where MJD came from and narrow our search.
Any minute detail that some could think is trivial and not important to this case could be the detail that cracks it.....
Just thinking out loud here...:twocents:
dee10134
08-17-2008, 12:25 PM
I do not believe a word Alonzo or Lindsey have said to police. They know what happened and I am sure they know who MJD is also. It's strange that all of a sudden Robin says she thinks her name was Dawn or Donna. That name would be more believable because of the initials on the ring. She doesn't sound too credible either Of course any of the people in that kind of life style are questionable to say the least.
I agree with you. I can't believe LE cleared AF and LDJ. Their statements were so transparent and didn't make a lick of sense to me, so I have a hard time believing LE actually believed them! If I was a gambler, I'd bet the farm that they knew her name. At the very least, they knew her first name or her street name. My logic behind this is if she told RA/RW her name, then she must have told AF and/or LDJ...
I tend to believe RA/RW, but think her recollection may be a bit muddled. If she is/was a drinker or on drugs, her recollection could be even more muddled. I'm hoping she is telling the truth, but I do find it strange that she went from Cory/Carla to Dawn/Donna.........
dee10134
08-17-2008, 12:28 PM
I know exactly what you mean, I was an Air force brat. Every time I get ticked, I sound like I am from the Bronx. When I am extremely happy, I tend to have a southern drawl. I have tried really hard to lose my accents, but depending on my mood I just "slip" into whatever accent. It totally rots sometimes cuz I am always get asked "where are you from?" :banghead:
That's funny. I guess I have the "classic" Chicago accent... lmao. I always get "Are you from Chicago?" :crazy::crazy:
DA BEARSSSSS! ;)
dee10134
08-17-2008, 12:29 PM
So, I guess unless she had a foreign accent, we shouldn't focus too much on this point, huh? And if Robin thought she was from Kansas, it probably wasn't foreign. Then again, I suppose that depends on your feelings about Kansas! :crazy:
LMAO! I guess you guys are right... The interpretation of someone's accent seems to be perceived differently by different people.
dee10134
08-17-2008, 12:33 PM
I usually just lurk here, but I've read every post in every thread in this case. It is so hard to fathom that this girl has been unidentified for so long. I graduated from high school in 98 and often compare what may have been going on in her life with mine.
I am constantly amazed at the dedication and guts of the posters on this case in particular.
I believe that MJD was probably on the older end of the age scale. I know she is probably swollen and doesn't look exactly like "herself" in the hospital and morgue pics, but she just seems so much older than 15 to me.
There are a lot of things I'd like to believe, such as that she was just getting into life on the streets and hadn't endured very much hardship before her death, that her family is still hoping she's alive and will come back to them someday- its too hard to believe no one would care if she was dead. Of course, I would not wish the heartbreak of losing a loved one on anyone.
I also believe that LDJ and Alonzo where not telling the truth. They had all that time on the road after she jumped/was pushed out (I believe pushed) to come up with a story. They knew they were going to get caught, there were other vehicles around them.
Hi! I graduated in 1998 too! :) I do the same thing with the comparisons. I look back at my teenage years and am shocked that I wasn't murdered and left in a ditch somewhere. Man, my friends and I were just too damn trusting... and we grew up in a big city. :slap:
dee10134
08-17-2008, 12:38 PM
Ronnie Phelps is the Mojave connection.....
I found many addresses for a Ronnie Phelps in Lake Havasu, AZ...
dee10134
08-17-2008, 12:43 PM
Name: Ronnie Phelps
Spouse: Dawn (Is this a coincidence?!)
City: Lake Havasu City
State: Arizona
This is in Mojave County......
VASHLEY88
08-17-2008, 02:38 PM
Name: Ronnie Phelps
Spouse: Dawn (Is this a coincidence?!)
City: Lake Havasu City
State: Arizona
This is in Mojave County......
Weeeeird..
If you search their marriage record and look at the dates on it, and they suspiciously correlate with MJD's time alive.. then I will crap myself. :eek:
I am praying that RA told the cops Carla/Corey at first because that was her street name.. and I hope that maybe she remembered Dawn/Donna as her real name..
Send us down a clue today, baby :gold_star:
IIRC, Cory/Carla was given as a street name, but she later gave Dawn/Donna as a possible real name.
I tend to believe RA/RW, but think her recollection may be a bit muddled. If she is/was a drinker or on drugs, her recollection could be even more muddled. I'm hoping she is telling the truth, but I do find it strange that she went from Cory/Carla to Dawn/Donna.........
Cymro
08-17-2008, 03:45 PM
Name: Ronnie Phelps
Spouse: Dawn (Is this a coincidence?!)
City: Lake Havasu City
State: Arizona
This is in Mojave County......
Zabasearch gives matching addresses for Dawn and Ronnie and shows that Dawn was born in October 1965, meaning
a. she is very probably still alive; and
b. even if she is not, she is too old to be MJD.
Good find though.
VASHLEY88
08-17-2008, 04:19 PM
Zabasearch gives matching addresses for Dawn and Ronnie and shows that Dawn was born in October 1965, meaning
a. she is very probably still alive; and
b. even if she is not, she is too old to be MJD.
Good find though.
Aww. Good try.
jyram
08-17-2008, 08:36 PM
Hi! I graduated in 1998 too! :) I do the same thing with the comparisons. I look back at my teenage years and am shocked that I wasn't murdered and left in a ditch somewhere. Man, my friends and I were just too damn trusting... and we grew up in a big city. :slap:
I grew up on a farm outside a small community near the Twin Cities. I, too, trusted everyone unless they gave me a reason not to. I personally think MJD was probably the same way, if she just got into a car with strangers as LDJ claims- didnt even know her name. (I think they know MUCH more than they told LE.)
I lived in Jersey for three years, and now KC. Depending on where I am, my accent changes. :rolleyes:
phenolred
08-17-2008, 08:44 PM
well here he is with his smug smile....I FOUND his PICTURE now dangit why can't we get the other twos....
Also his address with I havent looked up on a map yet......
But here ya go....
He is on the Arizona Sex Offender Registry, for what else but sexual conduct with a minor AND CHILD PROSTITUTION.....
http://az.gov/webapp/offender/offender.do?id=043700
SassyAnne
08-17-2008, 09:23 PM
I believe that Lindsey and Alonzo know more than they say they do. When I am in the presence of new ppl, I get nervous and chatter non-stop. MJD sounded really nervous talking about her "boyfriend", so she more than likely talked her head off.
SassyAnne
08-17-2008, 09:27 PM
but then again I could be wrong
The Green Hornet
08-18-2008, 06:47 AM
I've been a lurker on this site for awhile now and signed up specifically to try and help in this case.
I lived in the Phoenix area off and on for 16 years. I know the area for which MJD was picked up is especially seedy, and I can't tell you the number of times I was propositioned there when I'd stop to get items before or after a Suns game. So, those who came up with the idea that she could have been a lady of the street seem accurate.
Whatever the case is, the sooner this poor girl gets a name, the more content I'm going to feel.
Cubby
08-18-2008, 07:28 AM
Welcome Green Hornet. Glad to have you here.
:Welcome-12-june:
fmw63
08-18-2008, 10:39 AM
Shaine and both truck drivers stated that Alonzo was driving the car.
Not really. They used "he" in their desription of the driver, which could have been just a generic descriptor - neither actually said they saw who was driving.
But on the front sheet of the police report I did see they listed Alonzo as "suspect/driver". The car seat just seemed so close up for someone 5'11", and the passenger seat being farther back. Oh well...was just an idea... :bang:
dee10134
08-18-2008, 02:21 PM
Zabasearch gives matching addresses for Dawn and Ronnie and shows that Dawn was born in October 1965, meaning
a. she is very probably still alive; and
b. even if she is not, she is too old to be MJD.
Good find though.
You're right. I find a Ronnie Phelps living in Lake Havasu, AZ with a middle name of David. I don't think he is "the" Ronnie Phelps.
I was thinking LDJ just had the passenger seat pushed all the way back just for more leg room and comfort. I'm only 5'3, but I do that all the time when I'm not driving.
Not really. They used "he" in their desription of the driver, which could have been just a generic descriptor - neither actually said they saw who was driving.
But on the front sheet of the police report I did see they listed Alonzo as "suspect/driver". The car seat just seemed so close up for someone 5'11", and the passenger seat being farther back. Oh well...was just an idea... :bang:
Cymro
08-18-2008, 07:30 PM
Sure Vask, and I'm an inch or two over 5'11" but I don't sit with my arms and legs wrapped around the steering wheel.
ArizonaGiGi
08-18-2008, 08:07 PM
I was thinking LDJ just had the passenger seat pushed all the way back just for more leg room and comfort. I'm only 5'3, but I do that all the time when I'm not driving.
I do the same thing. 5'4", and push the seat alllll the way back.
believe09
08-19-2008, 11:28 PM
Female skelatal remains were located in Whittman, AZ just outside of Phoenix, in the desert. It was a partial skeleton, 17-20 years of age about 60 inches tall.
Here is the info:
https://identifyus.org/?p=case&i=2345&from=home
While I was poking around to look for a likely missing person from that area, I came across this case:
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200705413S
Her name is China, she was last seen on 24th and Van Buren and foul play is suspected.
My point to all of this is that how do these women ever make it out alive? They have to be the most at risk group of people aside from children....and I was so sad.
VASHLEY88
08-20-2008, 01:03 AM
Female skelatal remains were located in Whittman, AZ just outside of Phoenix, in the desert. It was a partial skeleton, 17-20 years of age about 60 inches tall.
Here is the info:
https://identifyus.org/?p=case&i=2345&from=home
While I was poking around to look for a likely missing person from that area, I came across this case:
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200705413S
Her name is China, she was last seen on 24th and Van Buren and foul play is suspected.
My point to all of this is that how do these women ever make it out alive? They have to be the most at risk group of people aside from children....and I was so sad.
I knew about China's case, but the skeletal remains is new to me. It always struck me as bizarre that China came from the same area that MJD was picked up. Ugh, that is such a seedy area. *shudder*
ArizonaGiGi
08-20-2008, 04:16 AM
Female skelatal remains were located in Whittman, AZ just outside of Phoenix, in the desert. It was a partial skeleton, 17-20 years of age about 60 inches tall.
Here is the info:
https://identifyus.org/?p=case&i=2345&from=home
While I was poking around to look for a likely missing person from that area, I came across this case:
http://www.theyaremissed.org/ncma/gallery/ncmaprofile_all.php?A200705413S
Her name is China, she was last seen on 24th and Van Buren and foul play is suspected.
My point to all of this is that how do these women ever make it out alive? They have to be the most at risk group of people aside from children....and I was so sad.
That is such a seedy sad place.
Maybe that's China's skeleton. If not, WHO is it?
phenolred
08-20-2008, 11:26 AM
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Braggs is behind the new local film titled “I’m in Traffic.” He says he created the 16-minute film to expose others to the growing problem of human trafficking or the buying and selling people for labor or sex.
Karen Countryman-Roswurm, an expert in the matter, says no one is safe from this epidemic.
Braggs points out, that those who are victims of human trafficking are not actually prostitutes, they are really victims.
here is a link to full story
http://www.ksn.com/news/local/27050474.html
VASHLEY88
08-21-2008, 04:09 AM
Somebody posted this on city-data last night, which was started by phenol, I believe..
http://pics3.city-data.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif Yesterday, 09:09 PM
Matt O'Brien (http://www.city-data.com/forum/members/matt-o-brien-395838.html)
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we never knew she was killed...we thought she just ran away and still to this day avoided contacting anyone..it is a complete shock and its very tough for everyone in my family..I am 20 years old now, and in 1999 I was only eleven..however she moved from massachusetts when I was much younger, many people think she was abandoned by her parents that is very much false she ran away and she was a very innocent girl... I belive she was trying to find her way back home...there is no way she jumped out of a moving vehicle going 75 mph that is ****in riduclous..her real name is Tawnee and she can finally lay at rest with my family...i thank everyone who has stuck with this site and continued to not give up it really means alot...and may god have mercy on the man whom is running like a coward because he will be found so help me god
christine and believe09 are working hard with a tipster, if you saw on the "Possible Matches" thread. Don't know if these two correlate (tipper and O'Brien), but I thought I'd go ahead and post this here. Apparently the poster of this is her cousin.
LINK:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoenix-area/372258-phoenix-unsolved-mystery-1999-a-3.html
Let's cross our fingers, guys!..
The Green Hornet
08-21-2008, 05:38 AM
This girl is my cousin. We had been looking for her for over nine years. We just found out today after 9 years. The mother had put out detectives and special forces to find her and it kills us that all along it could have been googled like this.
Oh how I have a good feeling about this one...
*Crosses my fingers*
Teresa Larson
08-21-2008, 06:12 AM
Somebody posted this on city-data last night, which was started by phenol, I believe..
http://pics3.city-data.com/forum/images/statusicon/post_old.gif Yesterday, 09:09 PM
Matt O'Brien (http://www.city-data.com/forum/members/matt-o-brien-395838.html)
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we never knew she was killed...we thought she just ran away and still to this day avoided contacting anyone..it is a complete shock and its very tough for everyone in my family..I am 20 years old now, and in 1999 I was only eleven..however she moved from massachusetts when I was much younger, many people think she was abandoned by her parents that is very much false she ran away and she was a very innocent girl... I belive she was trying to find her way back home...there is no way she jumped out of a moving vehicle going 75 mph that is ****in riduclous..her real name is Tawnee and she can finally lay at rest with my family...i thank everyone who has stuck with this site and continued to not give up it really means alot...and may god have mercy on the man whom is running like a coward because he will be found so help me god
christine and believe09 are working hard with a tipster, if you saw on the "Possible Matches" thread. Don't know if these two correlate (tipper and O'Brien), but I thought I'd go ahead and post this here. Apparently the poster of this is her cousin.
LINK:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/phoenix-area/372258-phoenix-unsolved-mystery-1999-a-3.html
Let's cross our fingers, guys!..
I am :confused: Who is O'Brien a cousin of?
The Green Hornet
08-21-2008, 07:32 AM
I am :confused: Who is O'Brien a cousin of?
O'Brien is claiming he's the cousin of MJD. Gave some pretty good information which leads me to believe that he's legit. I wonder how he may have been tipped off to find this case and determine that MJD is who he thinks she is.
christine2448
08-21-2008, 09:13 AM
I rec'd an email around 9pm last night from someone claiming to be a relative of MJD. I forwarded this email to believe09 who sprung into action working on this tip.
We are 99.5% sure that we know who she is.
Believe09 spent HOURS last night talking with more than 1 family member.
The tattoo, the ring, the timing, location, all adding up.
Believe09 will be meeting with family members (there are several aunts/uncles/cousins, to see pictures and discuss. We hope to have pictures of this possible for you all today.
The brother is in AZ and will be meeting with Suzi Dodt this AM for swab.
This girl was taken care of as many of us suspected, she does have dentals we just have to get our hands on them. This will be the quickest way to positive ID.
OMG. I am reeling.
New thread for discussion and to 'work' through this.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=139
Please bring anything you have there...I am just seeing things from topix.
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