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krimekat
08-08-2008, 11:37 AM
She limited her visitors to only family after friends wanted to visit.

She refused a visit with her brother!
She missed meeting with her parents a few times . . .

I think she realizes her supportive family is wanting answers not lies about Caylee

LI_Mom
08-08-2008, 02:32 PM
I think it was possible that many of her friends started to back away from her & didn't want anymore contact with HER.... phone or visits.

The best way to avoid THAT pain is to shut them out of your life before they have a chance to shut YOU out.

I think it dawned on her friends that Casey's not coming home any time soon.... they have lives to live & don't want to waste anymore of their time with Casey's sick antics.

I don't feel sorry for her... eventually she'll find new friends.... in prison.

hinkymeter
08-08-2008, 02:49 PM
I think she realizes her jig is just about up...

Today was the day that Caylee was supposed to be back home. She's not. And, she knows that Lee will press her-"How did you know she would be back today? Who told you? Why isn't she here? Where is she?" etc. etc. So, instead of answering the difficult questions, the easiest way to deal with them is to avoid them entirely.

Of course, this is just my opinion.

Hisimage
08-08-2008, 02:53 PM
I think her friends are puting 2 and 2 toghether and realising her lies. They are keeping pret-ty quiet if you ask me. They are probably trying to distance themselves. Especially if some of them were aware of her irrational ways of dealing with Caylee and her parents.

lv2bgoing
08-08-2008, 04:43 PM
I would like to know if she has told her lawyer all the truth about what happened to Caylee, does he have to tell the LE any part of it?

absolut_alexis
08-08-2008, 05:40 PM
Bet she just learned yesterday that Lee forwarded her emails to LE.

He's loyal to his sister ... but he is more loyal to his neice.


She limited her visitors to only family after friends wanted to visit.

She refused a visit with her brother!
She missed meeting with her parents a few times . . .

I think she realizes her supportive family is wanting answers not lies about Caylee

TxRose
08-08-2008, 06:08 PM
I would like to know if she has told her lawyer all the truth about what happened to Caylee, does he have to tell the LE any part of it?

No...as her attorney anything she says to him is privileged and confidential.

I think you guys are right. I bet she is finding it harder to answer when confronted with her lies. She is probably avoiding anyone that might challenge her.

I think she also has to know that her family has been cooperating with police. She may have seen that her mom actually called police and had them come get some things from the house. She is probably starting to doubt they are on her side. Good - because I see them an enablers in her habitual lying.

TxRose
08-08-2008, 06:15 PM
I will correct my answer somewhat. If Casey told him where Caylee was and he has reasonable belief that she was in danger, I think he could tell LE without violating that privilege.

SillyNilly
08-08-2008, 06:20 PM
No...as her attorney anything she says to him is privileged and confidential.

I think you guys are right. I bet she is finding it harder to answer when confronted with her lies. She is probably avoiding anyone that might challenge her.

I think she also has to know that her family has been cooperating with police. She may have seen that her mom actually called police and had them come get some things from the house. She is probably starting to doubt they are on her side. Good - because I see them an enablers in her habitual lying.

This is exactly the way it is and why I do not like criminal defense attorneys. In most instances, they know they are representing someone guilty and it's a challenge for them to beat their client's rap. IMO, Mark Geragos knew that Scott Peterson was guilty and that explains his dramatic tactics during the entire trial.

Chanler
08-08-2008, 06:21 PM
I would assume that a competent lawyer would advise her to limit or cease statements to people who might be reporting them (or misreporting them) to the press.

I would also assume that he would be telling her that her obstinance with investigators is effectively destroying any hope that she might have had for leniency.

fixingtoburst
08-08-2008, 06:29 PM
She limited her visitors to only family after friends wanted to visit.

She refused a visit with her brother!
She missed meeting with her parents a few times . . .

I think she realizes her supportive family is wanting answers not lies about Caylee

I think this is just another example of Casey being manipulative. She's punishing mummy, daddy, and brother by refusing visitation thus drawing them more into her web of lies.

txsvicki
08-08-2008, 06:30 PM
I think the attorney is handling things. Maybe he's told Casey it's time to shut up about the danger and Caylee being in danger. The pool is now being hinted at in interviews.

TxRose
08-08-2008, 06:30 PM
I would assume that a competent lawyer would advise her to limit or cease statements to people who might be reporting them (or misreporting them) to the press.

I would also assume that he would be telling her that her obstinance with investigators is effectively destroying any hope that she might have had for leniency.

I hope he is doing both of those things...if he is a good lawyer he would. I would also have gone out along time ago and told Cindy to stop talking to the press. That if she wants to help her daughter, stop talking. I don't think she can...she seems drawn to the attention. But I sure would try!

Mohabi
08-08-2008, 07:33 PM
The best way to avoid THAT pain is to shut them out of your life before they have a chance to shut YOU out.


I agree. She is distancing herself from anyone who could hurt her feelings by not believing her. I think that's what Casey is doing right now, and she doesn't want to answer any more questions either, specially not from family. There's a time to fess up and hers will come only when she is ready - maybe it won't come at all, depending on the extent of her pride. Nobody can "make" her talk but herself.

Admitting to a lie (specially admitting to many lies on such an important subject as the life of a daughter) will destroy any "image" she had of herself, will destroy her pride, and will be the ultimate blow to her self-confidence. How she'll get there.....I don't know. She has driven this way too far, told way too many lies....

Maybe there is a little bit of shame in her somewhere, just enough of a tiny bit to not want to see the pain in her family's eyes anymore (coward), yet she is still not able to tear down her own false image, an image that only SHE holds of herself. She probably doesn't know what to do to help her present situation and hopes that if she holds on long enough, and remains :silenced: , it will all go away.

I'm no psychologist but the annihilation of your own self as you know it, is quite a daunting task. To start fresh when there is nothing left but life in prison and possibly the DP, is definitely not an enticement to spill the beans. I don't think Casey knows what an "un-guilty conscience" feels like.

Sorry about all this psychobabble, I was more or less thinking aloud.

krimekat
08-09-2008, 12:23 PM
I think this is just another example of Casey being manipulative. She's punishing mummy, daddy, and brother by refusing visitation thus drawing them more into her web of lies.

Was it Casey who said Caylee would be home for her birthday?

sweetmop
08-09-2008, 12:27 PM
Was it Casey who said Caylee would be home for her birthday?

Yes it was Casey who told her family that.

TxRose
08-09-2008, 06:36 PM
I believe I read somewhere that Tony has not spoken to her since she was arrested. I would guess that is true or otherwise we would have seen the phone call released to the media. I assume he is distancing himself from her and everything related to her. I wonder how Casey is taking that? Not well I am sure...since she was so adamant about getting his phone number so she could call him! Poor guy - I bet he wishes he had never crossed paths with her.

mkay882
08-09-2008, 06:49 PM
I think this is just another example of Casey being manipulative. She's punishing mummy, daddy, and brother by refusing visitation thus drawing them more into her web of lies.

:clap:

I must agree!

Casey is throwing a "MINI-POUT"

Her FAMILY canceled visits....
She canceled THEIR visit...

She'll show THEM!!!!

curiositycat
08-09-2008, 06:55 PM
She is trying to manipulate them by making them feel badly. How sad is this. I hope they don't let it get to them.

Fandy
08-09-2008, 07:19 PM
she was so hot to talk to her "boyfriend" in one of the early released phone conversations....when she did not even ask if anyone was looking for Caylee.

Now he blew her off, she's re-grouping for her next round. I'm sure she will fabricate some fantastic story, but she is isolated except for what she has seen on TV...and how much TV is she allowed?

Muzikman
08-09-2008, 07:20 PM
I believe I read somewhere that Tony has not spoken to her since she was arrested. I would guess that is true or otherwise we would have seen the phone call released to the media. I assume he is distancing himself from her and everything related to her. I wonder how Casey is taking that? Not well I am sure...since she was so adamant about getting his phone number so she could call him! Poor guy - I bet he wishes he had never crossed paths with her.

WFTV says they finally talked to TonE a little bit yesterday, he said he has not talked to her since she was arrested.

I'm SURE that really bothers her. I wonder if she tried to call him and he didn't answer?

I also wonder why the media hasn't gotten her visit with George last weekend. The one where he was going to ask her "the tough questions."

TxRose
08-09-2008, 07:20 PM
She is trying to manipulate them by making them feel badly. How sad is this. I hope they don't let it get to them.

I agree. She is pouting and trying to make them feel bad. If I were them, I would treat her just like a child throwing a tantrum. Ignore her. I wouldn't go visit for a while. You can't by in to a tantrum or she wins. It's not like they are getting any info from the visits anyway.

TxRose
08-09-2008, 07:23 PM
WFTV says they finally talked to TonE a little bit yesterday, he said he has not talked to her since she was arrested.

I'm SURE that really bothers her. I wonder if she tried to call him and he didn't answer?

I also wonder why the media hasn't gotten her visit with George last weekend. The one where he was going to ask her "the tough questions."

Oh! Good question! Could Jose arrange a meeting with his client and have the father there and have that be privileged? What I mean is, does the jail allow that?

Muzikman
08-09-2008, 07:27 PM
Oh! Good question! Could Jose arrange a meeting with his client and have the father there and have that be privileged? What I mean is, does the jail allow that?

I don't think so, or else all her family conversations would have been done that way.

GameTheory
08-09-2008, 07:51 PM
She limited her visitors to only family after friends wanted to visit.

She refused a visit with her brother!
She missed meeting with her parents a few times . . .

I think she realizes her supportive family is wanting answers not lies about Caylee

Right now Casey only cares about her number one priority: Herself.
Not her daughter and not her parents.

She saw her parents up to the moment they played well with her abduction scenario. She doesn't have time or energy to loose now answering their pressing questions to help them find Caylee. She would not go to the meetings and be recorded indifferent about her daughter and she would not go to the meetings and have her brother or other family member to ask for clarifications of all the things she claimed and all the lies she told them and the police. And since the parents are not selling everything they have to find half a million to bail her out what about throwing a little tantrum as well and refuse to see them?

cricket
08-09-2008, 08:11 PM
Oh! Good question! Could Jose arrange a meeting with his client and have the father there and have that be privileged? What I mean is, does the jail allow that?


IANAL but I believe that if you have a third party to the conversation, you have waived privilege. (Unless the third party is another lawyer working for you, a paralegal hired by your attorney, etc.)

TxRose
08-09-2008, 10:01 PM
I would bet you are right. If it was that simple I bet the family would have been doing that all along.

Muzikman
08-09-2008, 10:25 PM
On Geraldo, Phil Keating says that George & Cindy now have a visit scheduled for tomorrow night (Sunday) at 9 PM.

And Lee has one scheduled for Monday now.

beetrue
08-09-2008, 10:44 PM
does anyone have a link to the most recent conversation between George and Casey? I keep hearing about how she broke down with her dad. BUT, the media is not playing it.
Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

Sunshinegirl
08-09-2008, 10:47 PM
Ok.. Just had a thought.. I heard somewhere that Cindy went to visit Casey at the Jail and then decided to cancel her visit and leave. Do you guys think that Casey might have refused to visit with Cindy just like he refused her brother Lee's visit?? What do you guys think???


I just posted this in another thread but I think it belongs here... sorry

TxRose
08-09-2008, 11:22 PM
I know a while ago when she decided against visiting Casey because the meetings were recorded/videotaped. But did she schedule another visit for today?

Sunshinegirl
08-09-2008, 11:24 PM
I know a while ago when she decided against visiting Casey because the meetings were recorded/videotaped. But did she schedule another visit for today?

That is the visit I am speaking of... but do you think that Cindy made that up because she didn't want to say that Casey had refused the visit? Wasn't it shortly after that cancelled visit that the Grandparents started saying that Caylee is now in danger?

TxRose
08-09-2008, 11:38 PM
Yes, but that's because that was the "story" that the family and Jose were spreading. I think it is the only kind of story they could make up that would make any sense out of her lying all the time!

But you could be right. I thought that the reason she turned her brother away was probably that she has seen some of the news reports lately where they talk about the family cooperating with LE. They talked about her mom calling CSI back out to the house, etc. If she saw any of that I am sure it appears to her that they are not on her side. I am sure that hacked her off.

Sunshinegirl
08-09-2008, 11:44 PM
Yea.. I bet you're right.. she realizes that the family is truly concerned about Caylee more than Casey and she's refusing to see them. I read somewhere that Lee has another appointment scheduled for Sunday at 9am... Think she'll see him???

TxRose
08-10-2008, 12:55 PM
Yea.. I bet you're right.. she realizes that the family is truly concerned about Caylee more than Casey and she's refusing to see them. I read somewhere that Lee has another appointment scheduled for Sunday at 9am... Think she'll see him???

I am not sure when the next visit is scheduled. I thought he wasn't supposed to see her until Monday. One of the posts above saw George & Cindy are scheduled to see her tonight at 9:00 pm. I guess we will have to tune in and see. I am sure the news will cover it either way!

krimekat
08-10-2008, 04:38 PM
Did I just hear Fox say that Casey has refused to see her parents tonight 10 Aug?

krimekat
08-10-2008, 04:55 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7175872&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

krimekat
08-10-2008, 04:58 PM
Check out Fox News -- they are talking with the Anthony's

SusieClue
08-10-2008, 04:58 PM
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7175872&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

I guess she needs some time to come up with another "scenario"...I'm guessing Mom, Dad and Lee are getting mighty suspicious by now. That took long enough!:waitasec:

krimekat
08-10-2008, 04:59 PM
I guess she needs some time to come up with another "scenario"...I'm guessing Mom, Dad and Lee are getting mighty suspicious by now. That took long enough!:waitasec:

No doubt . . . I wonder when she'll deny Lee's visit scheduled for tomorrow - :behindbar

I love Fox's Orlando in Orlando . . . apparently Cindy told Orly that it was "tit for tat" since Cindy refused a visit

housemouse
08-10-2008, 05:18 PM
If I were Cindy. George and Lee, I would send a message through Casey's lawyer that there will be no more visits from them until she "spills the beans" to LE, and the "beans" prove not to be another lie.

That they are disgusted by her behavior, and do not want to put up with it any longer. Once she tells the truth, they will do their best to see that she gets a fair trial, and that they will support her during her prison sentence, but only if the lying stops!

At least, this is what I would do if one of my grown children were behaving this way. (LOL, My grown children probably know this, from the way we handled their adolescent pranks!)

Amberjack
08-10-2008, 05:26 PM
I truly believe Casey will never tell the true story of what happened.

Similar to: OJ Simpson, Scott Peterson, Joran van der Sloot......

krimekat
08-10-2008, 06:06 PM
I truly believe Casey will never tell the true story of what happened.

Similar to: OJ Simpson, Scott Peterson, Joran van der Sloot......

Scott Peterson - ew & ick!

SuziQ
08-11-2008, 02:51 AM
Bumping this up.

Thinaire
08-11-2008, 04:40 AM
Hmmm...I think Jose, her lawyer is her new best friend. Casey has in, as defense lawyer, a new person to charm and project her image to....

maya.morgen
08-11-2008, 06:40 AM
She limited her visitors to only family after friends wanted to visit.

She refused a visit with her brother!
She missed meeting with her parents a few times . . .

I think she realizes her supportive family is wanting answers not lies about Caylee

Oh that says a lot to me.She can't lie to their faces anymore?Is it getting exhausting?Is she ashamed?She's feeling trapped in her own lies?

Clock's ticking,time to TALK Casey.

Fandy
08-11-2008, 12:39 PM
Casey's reaction to too many facts is to not face them. I think that's how she is dealing with her family. if she doesn't see them, she doesn't have to provide an answer.

I don't recall her saying that Caylee would be home for her birthday (last week visit with george), but she said that SHE wanted to be home for Caylee's birthday. i don't have time to search for this interview, sorry.

feddup
08-11-2008, 12:51 PM
I think in FL, all jail conversations are recorded. Just last week, Mrs Hulk Hogan is trying to sue for recording the fams visits but then the person at the jail pointed out the big sign: All visits are recorded.....
:bang: and....public record.
I dont think she will get far.
Anyways, maybe Casey is too paranoid to talk to her family knowing it is all recorded. She did sound guarded with Lee. She has enough to hide IMO. The only ones that wouldnt be public record would be the visits with her attorney. So she will probably only be willing to see him and she can feed him with whatever line of B***** she wants to.

Dr. Pennypacker
08-11-2008, 02:51 PM
I truly believe Casey will never tell the true story of what happened.

Similar to: OJ Simpson, Scott Peterson, Joran van der Sloot......

I can see it shaping up that way......:furious:

auntbaby
08-11-2008, 04:00 PM
Maybe even though publicly supportive to the nth degree, privately mum and dad are beginning to doubt Casey's story. She just doesn't want to face the fact that her web is starting to fall apart. And she doesn't want to see the faces of those whose lives she has changed forever , in a most horrible fashion, by doing whatever it was she did to that baby girl, to the people who obviously loved Caylee more than she did. To a person like Casey if you can't use them, lose them.

manatee
08-11-2008, 07:34 PM
Maybe even though publicly supportive to the nth degree, privately mum and dad are beginning to doubt Casey's story. She just doesn't want to face the fact that her web is starting to fall apart. And she doesn't want to see the faces of those whose lives she has changed forever , in a most horrible fashion, by doing whatever it was she did to that baby girl, to the people who obviously loved Caylee more than she did. To a person like Casey if you can't use them, lose them.

i just think Baez has told her not to speak anymore. Everytime she does she incriminates herself. Baez knows this will be first degree...He knows Casey cannot speak anymore.
She will not see her family as long as she is being taped.