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krimekat
08-13-2008, 09:15 PM
OTR is on in 40 minutes & I plan to be glued to my TiVO . . . hope true sleuthers are ready to "blog" . . . you all R-O-C-K!!!

:clap::clap::clap:

PrayersForMaura
08-13-2008, 09:17 PM
I love Greta. She answers emails from silly sleuths like me :crazy:

krimekat
08-13-2008, 09:23 PM
I'd call into her show if she allowed . . . I haven't emailed her before, though. I cannot believe no one in the media has shown Cindy's early July MySpace post . . .

txsvicki
08-13-2008, 09:25 PM
Is Greta going to have more information? I can't decide whether to go to Target or watch Greta.

panthera
08-13-2008, 09:28 PM
Is Greta going to have more information? I can't decide whether to go to Target or watch Greta.
This is from her page at Fox News ~

Wednesday, August 13:
Greta live in Orlando with the latest developments on the search for Caylee Anthony

http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

krimekat
08-13-2008, 09:28 PM
Is Greta going to have more information? I can't decide whether to go to Target or watch Greta.

Well, I am sure it is nothing new, just more of the same. And OTR is repeated 2 hours after 10p show (eastern). Target, eh? This time of night would be a perfect time to go (just before closing)

ShouldBWorking
08-13-2008, 09:33 PM
I'd call into her show if she allowed . . . I haven't emailed her before, though. I cannot believe no one in the media has shown Cindy's early July MySpace post . . .

I sent it to OTR and Nancy

PrayersForMaura
08-13-2008, 09:35 PM
I don't think this hotel has fox news. Haven't found it. Please post if there is something interesting or new!! Thanks!

krimekat
08-13-2008, 09:36 PM
I sent it to OTR and Nancy

Awesome!!! I really wish it would be included in discussions. It is almost as damning as Cindy's comment in the 911 call about the smell in the car!

krimekat
08-13-2008, 09:38 PM
I don't think this hotel has fox news. Haven't found it. Please post if there is something interesting or new!! Thanks!

OhMyGod -- I would die!!! Will update forum with any interesting Greta stuff!!

BTW - if you are a native to StL, what high school did you go to? (tee hee, I am a transplant & was so confused when asked this ?)

panthera
08-13-2008, 09:38 PM
I just saw a preview on Fox News and she's got an interview with someone who spent a lot of time with Casey in June. Tony???

Knoxx
08-13-2008, 09:39 PM
Greta just said she has a Key interview coming up at 9

distracted
08-13-2008, 09:40 PM
Greta just announced during Hannity and Colmes that she got an exclusive interview with someone who was with Casey a lot during the month of June!

bananajam
08-13-2008, 09:42 PM
cindys myspace post? does anyone have a link to that , please.?

GreenTeam
08-13-2008, 09:42 PM
Please post all the details from Greta for those of us who are cableless! Thanks!

ShouldBWorking
08-13-2008, 09:44 PM
cindys myspace post? does anyone have a link to that , please.?

she deleted it but I have a copy pm me if you want me to send it to you if someone doesn't point you in the right direction

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 09:45 PM
cindys myspace post? does anyone have a link to that , please.?

I found it on an older thread here, so I'll just paste it below - it is very telling.

Originally Posted by Hailiejade77

July 3 Cindy posted this on Myspace
Thursday, July 03, 2008
my caylee is missing
She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don't know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother's love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?

bananajam
08-13-2008, 09:46 PM
you guys probably already know this, but just in case, Jesse Grunds father has been blogging on myspace about all the hubbub being said about his son on this very forum...i thought it was kinda funny, that you guys must be doing something right...thats what brought me here from scared monkeys...nice job!

bananajam
08-13-2008, 09:47 PM
thank you wishing tree...

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 09:47 PM
you guys probably already know this, but just in case, Jesse Grunds father has been blogging on myspace about all the hubbub being said about his son on this very forum...i thought it was kinda funny, that you guys must be doing something right...thats what brought me here from scared monkeys...nice job!

Actually I didn't know that! Do you have a link?

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 09:48 PM
For some reason, I don't think it is Tony...I could be wrong tho. Amy seems more likely. Personally, I would rather hear from Amy so maybe it is wishful thinking on my part! LOL

panthera
08-13-2008, 09:50 PM
For some reason, I don't think it is Tony...I could be wrong tho. Amy seems more likely. Personally, I would rather hear from Amy so maybe it is wishful thinking on my part! LOL
I too am thinking it could be Amy! I remember now that Tony really didn't want to talk with the media. Only about 10 more minutes and we'll find out! :)

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 09:54 PM
Actually I didn't know that! Do you have a link?Why read it somewhere else? We have the scoop: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67972

bananajam
08-13-2008, 09:54 PM
http://www.myspace.com/rjgrund

grunds father

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 09:54 PM
Some guy named Drew is going to be on there, but I don't know who he is. They're showing Greta talking to him on the pre-show webcast right now.

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 09:55 PM
KrimeKat~ Thanks for starting this thread, but would you mind going back and putting the date of this show in the title? It will help later on when we are trying to find things. Thanks again!

bananajam
08-13-2008, 09:55 PM
http://www.myspace.com/rjgrund

grunds father

casting stones is the name of the blog

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 09:56 PM
http://www.myspace.com/rjgrund

grunds father

Thanks! I'll check it out during Greta commercials! :)

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 09:56 PM
Strange, all I saw was Hannity and then commercials...haven't seen this Drew guy yet! Who is Drew?!

PrayersForMaura
08-13-2008, 09:57 PM
OhMyGod -- I would die!!! Will update forum with any interesting Greta stuff!!

BTW - if you are a native to StL, what high school did you go to? (tee hee, I am a transplant & was so confused when asked this ?)

Egads! I am going to miss a good episode it seems.
I am at one of these little botique hotels. I went through the channels about 10 times likes for FOX NEWS and haven't found it!

The high school question is SOOOO funny. Everyone does ask it.
It is a smaller town than it seems though!! :)

Leila
08-13-2008, 09:57 PM
Can't wait for Greta! This case has me so hooked that I plan my late afternoon/evening around programs................

4:00pm, start preparing dinner so I can watch Nancy Grace from 5:00pm to 6:00pm. After Nancy Grace is over at 6:00pm, finish preparing dinner and eat so I can watch Greta. :)

housemouse
08-13-2008, 09:58 PM
Going to head for bed, and watch Greta.

If there is anything earth-shaking, will come back to see what you all think, but other-wise, I am needing a break from this.

later, friends.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 09:58 PM
KrimeKat~ Thanks for starting this thread, but would you mind going back and putting the date of this show in the title? It will help later on when we are trying to find things. Thanks again!

Yep!!!

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:00 PM
LOL @ Leila. I know what you mean! Thank goodness for the dvr tho! I record NG on one while watching/recording Greta on the other.

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:00 PM
Strange, all I saw was Hannity and then commercials...haven't seen this Drew guy yet! Who is Drew?!

The Drew thing was online at the Greta site. They have a little pre-show thing you can watch at 9:45 est. Unfortunately my fiance kept talking the whole time it was playing, so I didn't hear anything but his name. :(

Leila
08-13-2008, 10:01 PM
It's the DJ, Clint HOuse

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:01 PM
June Roommate is on Greta!!!

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:01 PM
It's the former DJ at Fusian who was Tony's roommate. :)

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:01 PM
This is Clint, the roommate of Tony's.

This is gonna be good.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:02 PM
Clint spent many hours with Casey before & after Caylee's disappearance

kathyn2
08-13-2008, 10:02 PM
Who is this guy greta is talking to?

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:02 PM
This is good - it's Tony's roommate that Greta's interviewing right now and he said he thought they met on Facebook. He's not the guy I saw on the pre-show, though. I didn't catch this guy's name - fiance was still talking! lol

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:03 PM
TonE & Casey met on FaceBook

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:03 PM
"Former Roommate" of Casey's named Clint - Club Fusion DJ - testifying to Casey's character and describing how Casey met her boyfriend Tony at the club on May 24th.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:03 PM
Playing drinking games together 24 May; told TonE to "Wife her up" (huh?)

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:04 PM
How scary....she met him on FACEBOOK.....just like my daughter does, another connection in there behaviors :(

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:05 PM
Spent the night with Tony on 5/30. Met Caylee on 5/29 or 5/30.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:05 PM
nice, good girl, outgoing . . . Casey said she worked for Universal, that she had a daughter, random conversations; TonE & Casey liked each other. Casey went home 24 May after the party

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:05 PM
Playing drinking games together 24 May; told TonE to "Wife her up" (huh?)

"wife her up" To make her his girlfriend. To not see anyone else. Wow she moves quite fast.

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:06 PM
Clint met Caylee a week after he and Tony met Casey (approx May 30th). Said Caylee was "the most precious little girl he'd met in his life". Siad Casey had a "fantastic" relationship with Caylee and was a "very good mother" to Caylee.

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:06 PM
This is weird. Leaving your child alone in a room with a man you just met, so you could go "hang out" with your boyfriend.

The guy may be a good guy, but how on earth would Casey know that this guy is ok to care for her daughter.

Damn.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:06 PM
30 May she was at Fusion but Clint cannot say if she was drunk . . . spent the night at TonE & Clint's house

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:07 PM
Never heard of the nanny, Clint says

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:07 PM
Who is this guy greta is talking to?

This is "DJ," or Clint, Tony's roommate and former Fusian DJ.

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:07 PM
Clint said Caylee NEVER stayed the night over at the apartment, and Casey never mentioned the name Zenaida Gonzales to him or Tony.

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:07 PM
Casey would leave around 8:30 in the mornings; I think assumed she was going to job (or she sad she was, missed it.) Caylee wasn't spending the night - just Casey. She never once mentioned ZG.

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:07 PM
Caylee never spent the night at their place

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:08 PM
31 May through 1 July she stayed with them at their house and it was the 2nd week of June when she was without Caylee

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:08 PM
30 May she was at Fusion but Clint cannot say if she was drunk . . . spent the night at TonE & Clint's house

And she had just met him on the 24th.

So basically, after she met this guy, she spent every Friday in Fusian with him.

kathyn2
08-13-2008, 10:08 PM
Where the heck was Casey taking this child at night???????

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:09 PM
Casey spent the nite more and more frequently in latter June, July

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:09 PM
June 15th Clint returned from Jacksonville, he can't recall if Casey was there the next morning. Casey was spending the night at Tony's almost every night after that, but Caylee didn't come back. Said she was with GP or nanny.

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:09 PM
HA! Casey was with Tony on June 15th and spent the night!!!! HUGE!

Casey always said Caylee was with the grandparents when asked! She would take her "HOME" then come back to spend nights with Tony.

SuziQ
08-13-2008, 10:09 PM
Where the heck was Casey taking this child at night???????

Before she went missing she was probably left with Cindy and George. After she went missing, she didn't need a babysitter.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:09 PM
Casey seemed to have a good relationship with her parents; Clint met Caylee a week after they met Casey. Introduced them to Caylee (29 or 30 May) -- "most precious little girl I have seen in my life"

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:10 PM
2nd Week of June:

We always asked her where Caylee was, and she said, 'She's with her grandparents,' or 'she's with the nanny at the beach.'

Up until July 1, she always said this when asked about Caylee.

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:10 PM
Casey continued to tell her friends that Caylee was at grandparents' house...even up to first of July

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:10 PM
June 15th Clint returned from Jacksonville, he can't recall if Casey was there the next morning. Casey was spending the night at Tony's almost every night after that, but Caylee didn't come back. Said she was with GP or nanny.

very very ominous. All of it.

GreenTeam
08-13-2008, 10:10 PM
This is weird. Leaving your child alone in a room with a man you just met, so you could go "hang out" with your boyfriend.

The guy may be a good guy, but how on earth would Casey know that this guy is ok to care for her daughter.

Damn.


She left Caylee with this DJ guy, letting him babysit her? For how long?

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:10 PM
He did spent time alone with Caylee in the living room while TonE & Casey were elsewhere in the house -- best relationship between mom & daughter

Leila
08-13-2008, 10:10 PM
Clint said that Casey was there at Tony's on Father's Day night. This is important!

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:11 PM
It is not surprising that people feel that Casey was a good mother. In the short term range, that is how people like her act......they are very, very good at what they do. Generally people think they are the nicest people in the world and are shocked by anything happening

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:11 PM
Where the heck was Casey taking this child at night???????

Back to her parents' house?

Remember, Casey disappeared on the 16th.

So that's only two weeks between when Casey started staying at Tony's and Caylee was never seen again.

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:11 PM
Positive that Casey was still saying up until July 1st (when Clint moved out) that Caylee was staying with GPs. Greta asked him how sure he was again and he said POSITIVE.

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:11 PM
Clint is saying he first spoke with Casey at the club on May 24. She told him she worked at Universal and she had a daughter. Next time he remembers seeing her was May 30 for Fusian Friday Nights. Casual, friendly conversation. He doesn't remember how much she had to drink. Tony was there. That night she went home with Tony. About 5/29-30 he met Caylee. DJ moved out of Tony's apt. on 7/1. Mid June she started spending a lot of time at Tony's WITHOUT Caylee.

He's saying Casey would be getting ready to leave for work in the morning about 9am. Caylee never stayed overnight in the apartment. Never heard Casey mention Zenaida.

Morning of June 16 can't recall if Casey had spent the previous night. Almost every single night though she'd spend the night. Never after 6/13 did he see Caylee again. Up until July 1 Casey was saying Caylee was at the grandparents.

PrayersForMaura
08-13-2008, 10:11 PM
wow, I am sorry to not be seeing this. Sounds like a great show. Greta's show is awesome!

Thanks for the updates!!

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:11 PM
Caylee never spent the night at their place

Clint just said she did!!!

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Casey got up every morning and left around the same time Clint did about 8:30-9:00 am.

Clint said Caylee NEVER spent the night at the apartment with Casey and Tony.

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Casey would leave around 8:30 in the mornings; I think assumed she was going to job (or she sad she was, missed it.)

She probably had to go home to care for Caylee when her mom went to work.

Talk about living a double life.

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:12 PM
If her boyfriend was a police officer (prior to him resigning) why did she not tell him her daughter had been taken?????

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:12 PM
Caylee never came back to the apartment after June 16th, while Casey started staying there more frequently to include almost every night. Would always tell the guys Caylee was "at home" or with a nanny.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:13 PM
Clint never heard the name Zanny; he returned from jacksonville and Caylee was not at the house on 16 Jun but Casey was . . . Casey was there alot!!!

miss lisa
08-13-2008, 10:13 PM
Where the heck was Casey taking this child at night???????

Sadly the trunk :furious:

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:13 PM
She left Caylee with this DJ guy, letting him babysit her? For how long?

Didn't say.

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:13 PM
Positive that Casey was still saying up until July 1st (when Clint moved out) that Caylee was staying with GPs. Greta asked him how sure he was again and he said POSITIVE.

That beautiful baby is no longer with us. That cements it even more for me right there. jmo.

Leila
08-13-2008, 10:13 PM
I thought I heard him say Casey was there the night of June 15th?

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:13 PM
Clint just said she did!!!


Casey spent the nite...never Caylee

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:14 PM
Clint said that Casey was there at Tony's on Father's Day night. This is important!That puts tremendous weight on George's statement that he saw Casey and Caylee the following noontime, and puts the lie to Cindy's statement that she "heard them through the door" the night of the 15th.

Wow.

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:14 PM
The guy they're showing now is the Drew that I saw in the pre-show.

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:14 PM
OK...on now, Drew Petrimoux, from Orlando. Is he a journalist?

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Drew Petrimoulx is a reporter for a radio and has known Clint for two years or so. Says he is an honest guy and would believe what he says.

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:15 PM
That beautiful baby is no longer with us. That cements it even more for me right there. jmo.

Yeah...more evidence that the child is dead.

What a sick woman, to kill a child so that she could be with this man.


Sick, sick, sick.

:furious::furious::furious:

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:15 PM
That beautiful baby is no longer with us. That cements it even more for me right there. jmo.

I'm feeling the same way you are...getting a sinking feeling. :(

Openmyeyes
08-13-2008, 10:15 PM
Clint never heard the name Zanny; he returned from jacksonville and Caylee was not at the house on 16 Jun but Casey was . . . Casey was there alot!!!

Not hearing the name Zanny is huge. This is a pretty good show. Gretas not pussy footing.

OME

GreenTeam
08-13-2008, 10:15 PM
So what about the grandparents saying C and C were both sleeping in their home the night of the 15th and were heard behind the door on the morning of the 16th???

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:17 PM
KrimeKat....I posted correctly that CAYLEE never spent the nite at the guys' place, but CASEY did almost nitely. Just wanted to make sure you realized what I was saying earlier....

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:17 PM
That puts tremendous weight on George's statement that he saw Casey and Caylee the following noontime, and puts the lie to Cindy's statement that she "heard them through the door" the night of the 15th.

Wow.I wouldn't go that far with George's statement, but it does blow Cindy's out of the water! CINDY WAS THE LAST KNOWN PERSON TO BE WITH CAYLEE! (Like I have been saying for weeks now!)

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:17 PM
Drew Petrimoulx, reporter for radio show, said he's known Clint for about 2 years and he's "a good guy", though he hasn't talked to him for awhile until recently. Drew thinks Casey didn't sound like a "good mother" in her jailhouse phone call though. Drew said Tony is at the end of his college term and is disappointed in Casey. Drew says Tony isn't pleased with Clint coming on tv to talk about the case.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:18 PM
I thought I heard him say Casey was there the night of June 15th?

He did and she would have left the same time he did the morning of 16 June (9a)

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:18 PM
That puts tremendous weight on George's statement that he saw Casey and Caylee the following noontime, and puts the lie to Cindy's statement that she "heard them through the door" the night of the 15th.

Wow.

Ok...there's tremendous confusion here.

Casey spent the night at Tony's?

Cindy said she heard them through the door?

When did Casey come home, to leave again with Caylee?

Did George Anthony really see them leave at noon?

Total confusion here.

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:18 PM
Damn I hate having to post from work.

I've got Greta being tivo'd, but in the meantime - did Clint say that Casey spent the night of Father's Day (June 15th) at the apartment with them?

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:18 PM
I thought I heard him say Casey was there the night of June 15th?
I believe he said he couldn't be certain.

Openmyeyes
08-13-2008, 10:18 PM
I wouldn't go that far with George's statement, but it does blow Cindy's out of the water! CINDY WAS THE LAST KNOWN PERSON TO BE WITH CAYLEE! (Like I have been saying for weeks now!)

I just got the chills....

OME

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:18 PM
I REFUSE to listen to one more interview with these idiot grandparents

The ONLY one watching over this child is God

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:18 PM
KrimeKat....I posted correctly that CAYLEE never spent the nite at the guys' place, but CASEY did almost nitely. Just wanted to make sure you realized what I was saying earlier....

Thanks, caught it! Caylee did not stay at TonE & Clint's place overnight

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:19 PM
Damn I hate having to post from work.

I've got Greta being tivo'd, but in the meantime - did Clint say that Casey spent the night of Father's Day (June 15th) at the apartment with them?Absolutely he did!!! :eek:

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:19 PM
Damn I hate having to post from work.

I've got Greta being tivo'd, but in the meantime - did Clint say that Casey spent the night of Father's Day (June 15th) at the apartment with them?

he was not there, he was out of town

GreenTeam
08-13-2008, 10:19 PM
Where was Caylee sleeping during this time that Casey was staying overnight at the BF's house?

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:19 PM
I wouldn't go that far with George's statement, but it does blow Cindy's out of the water! CINDY WAS THE LAST KNOWN PERSON TO BE WITH CAYLEE! (Like I have been saying for weeks now!)That's what puts the weight on George's statement - either he really did see them on the 16th, or he's mistaken, in which case suspicion starts to fall on Cindy, who was the last person to have been verified as being with Caylee on the 15th.

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:20 PM
I believe he said he couldn't be certain.No, he was certain of Father's Day. He wasn't certain of the other nights.

Leila
08-13-2008, 10:20 PM
That puts tremendous weight on George's statement that he saw Casey and Caylee the following noontime, and puts the lie to Cindy's statement that she "heard them through the door" the night of the 15th.

Wow.

I'm going to have to watch the repeat to be sure. What I think I heard was quick, before another question asked.

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:20 PM
Absolutely he did!!! :eek:

are you sure? He said he was not there, he was out of town with his own dad????

RoseRed
08-13-2008, 10:20 PM
HA! Casey was with Tony on June 15th and spent the night!!!! HUGE!

Casey always said Caylee was with the grandparents when asked! She would take her "HOME" then come back to spend nights with Tony.

SS, i though he said " June 15th Clint returned from Jacksonville, he can't recall if Casey was there the next morning. "

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:20 PM
Caylee never came back to the apartment after June 16th, while Casey started staying there more frequently to include almost every night. Would always tell the guys Caylee was "at home" or with a nanny.


If LE knows all this, and I'm sure they do, then they have to be working on this as a homicide case, instead of just a missing person case.

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:20 PM
This case is the strangest thing!

I thought Clint said he couldn't be sure if Casey spent the nite of the 15th. Can someone recall that?

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:20 PM
That's what puts the weight on George's statement - either he really did see them on the 16th, or he's mistaken, in which case suspicion starts to fall on Cindy, who was the last person to have been verified as being with Caylee on the 15th.OR he is lying just like Cindy is!!!

donnam
08-13-2008, 10:20 PM
What is VERY telling for me is how she LIED up until July 1st about Caylee being with her parents! Her daughter was "supposedly" missing and she was lying to people about where she was. She KNEW exactly where she was and just was having the time of her life being "free". I feel ill now.

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:21 PM
I believe he said he couldn't be certain.

I thought I heard it the same way as you - that he couldn't be certain about Casey spending the night of June 15th. He had arrived home from out of town. But did say he never saw Caylee again after then for certain.

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:21 PM
Ok...there's tremendous confusion here.

Casey spent the night at Tony's?

Cindy said she heard them through the door?

When did Casey come home, to leave again with Caylee?

Did George Anthony really see them leave at noon?

Total confusion here.

Clint said that Casey left at 8:30 in the morning as usual with him. She probably went back to her parents house. It sounds like he is saying she did this all of the time and then it stopped. But she did get up and leave early in the morning on june 16th, which could leave George's statement about seeing her intact.

Openmyeyes
08-13-2008, 10:21 PM
Did anyone catch what Drew said about TonE and Clint and their conversation after Casey was jailed? I was reading or typing and only caught "disagreement how this should playout".

TIA -
OME

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:21 PM
I wouldn't go that far with George's statement, but it does blow Cindy's out of the water! CINDY WAS THE LAST KNOWN PERSON TO BE WITH CAYLEE! (Like I have been saying for weeks now!)

Oh Jesus.

Sick sick feeling in my gut right now.

kathyn2
08-13-2008, 10:21 PM
Why should this Tony care who talks about the case??? Maybe he was in on it???

Leila
08-13-2008, 10:21 PM
Absolutely he did!!! :eek:

That's what I thought he said!

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:22 PM
Her Fusion friends are hurt and confused by Casey . . . Clint & TonE may have had a falling out b/c Clint was on TV

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:22 PM
Casey always drove the same car...the white Sunfire

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:23 PM
Always drove the white Sunfire, thought she was going to work in the mornings. He said Tony never said anything negative about Caylee, but won't discuss him otherwise. Clint stopped going to Fusian or seeing Tony or Casey after July 1st.

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:23 PM
End of June, Clint stopped going to Fusion....he moved out to his own place.

Tricia
08-13-2008, 10:23 PM
I think I understand all of this but just in case can someone please summarize the main points?

Thanks,
Tricia

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:23 PM
Casey always had the white Sunfire

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:23 PM
Continuing with Clint, he says Casey was driving the White Sunfire car and never drove another vehicle. Tony and Casey seemed to be getting along ok, but Clint wouldn't put words in Tony's mouth about how Tony felt about anything. Clint did say everyone loved Caylee. Clint moved out to get his "own place to stay" because he was leeching off of Tony and wanted to get on his own feet.

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:23 PM
Where was Caylee sleeping during this time that Casey was staying overnight at the BF's house?
That is what we don't know. Up to the last time she was seen, was she actually over at George/Cindy's house while Casey was over at Tony's? She must have been somewhere! After mid-June, no one except Casey knows where Caylee was. MOO

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:24 PM
Casey was at Tony's when her mother came to get her.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:24 PM
"We all liked Caylee"; Clint did not have contact with Casey or TonE after June

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:25 PM
Clint is pretty sure that TonE and Casey are no longer together....he has not been to jail to see Casey

Adrienne37
08-13-2008, 10:25 PM
I REFUSE to listen to one more interview with these idiot grandparents

The ONLY one watching over this child is God


I completely and wholeheartedly agree with you Mitch!

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:25 PM
Clint said that Casey left at 8:30 in the morning as usual with him. She probably went back to her parents house. It sounds like he is saying she did this all of the time and then it stopped. But she did get up and leave early in the morning on june 16th, which could leave George's statement about seeing her intact.It could leave George's statement intact, but it would mean believing his word that he saw them. I posted earlier today about how his precise recollection rang false.

If Casey did not sleep at home on June 15th, Cindy's statement was a lie - she couldn't have heard them together in Casey's room.

If George is lying, the last known sighting of that little girl was at a nursing home on Sunday afternoon.

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:25 PM
Clint just said "wouldn't you be surprised if someone you knew had her child missing and was out partying?" (slightly paraphrased)

Leila
08-13-2008, 10:26 PM
Clint impresses me as being an up-front guy.

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:26 PM
Casey has lied....about her job, about going back to school....not sure if she was truthful about Caylee's father (said Caylee's father died in car wreck on the way to Caylee's b-day party)....she was a liar

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:26 PM
are you sure? He said he was not there, he was out of town with his own dad????

He had returned that evening . . . 15 June

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:26 PM
Lied about going back to school and also that Caylee's father was killed on the way to her birthday party. She never acted different or worried. She seemed completely normal and fine. Never once mentioned that Caylee was missing. :furious:

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:26 PM
who would be going after George? The whole orlando community is disgusted with him and his wife!

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:27 PM
And let me add......I said weeks ago this daughter was going to try and pin it on her mother

MIMI2
08-13-2008, 10:27 PM
Well this is NOT looking good for "mother of the year".

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:28 PM
What hits me is that apparently Casey was out every night and her parents were OK with that.....she left Caylee with the grandparents every night. So when Caylee quit spending the night there all of the sudden, don't you think they would get suspicious sooner than 31 days later?

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:28 PM
She looked them right in the eyes and lied!!! Never said anything about Caylee being kidnapped . . . acted like everything was fine! "It is very strange" per Clint.

Duh!!!

amethyst221
08-13-2008, 10:28 PM
The Drew guy does say he is sort of reading between the lines that there may be some friction in the current relationship between Tony and clint, and speculates it may arise from the fact Clint talks to the media. Drew is really not a witness with firsthand knowledge, more a character wit for Clint.

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:28 PM
Well this is NOT looking good for "mother of the year".Which one?

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:28 PM
It could leave George's statement intact, but it would mean believing his word that he saw them. I posted earlier today about how his precise recollection rang false.
If Casey did not sleep at home on June 15th, Cindy's statement was a lie - she couldn't have heard them together in Casey's room.

If George is lying, the last known sighting of that little girl was at a nursing home on Sunday afternoon.

I think we all agree that George's recollections are contrived and serve only the purpose to preserve his daughter, at the cost of justice for his granddaughter.

Caylee could have been killed anywhere from June 15 to June 16, IMO.

I'm quite sad...I don't think there's any doubt left that this child is no longer of this earth. :(

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:28 PM
I think I understand all of this but just in case can someone please summarize the main points?

Thanks,
Tricia
Basically what I posted a little bit back, and most important point is that neither Clint or Tony saw Caylee after mid-June yet Casey was saying she was at the grandparents house. Caylee never had spent the night at Tony's apt. but up to mid-June Casey had brought her over during the day. Casey also made it look like she was going to work in the mornings about the same time Clint was leaving for school (9am). Also he didn't notice anything remarkable about the week of June 16 and never heard Casey mention "Z"'s name. :)

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:29 PM
It could leave George's statement intact, but it would mean believing his word that he saw them. I posted earlier today about how his precise recollection rang false.

If Casey did not sleep at home on June 15th, Cindy's statement was a lie - she couldn't have heard them together in Casey's room.

If George is lying, the last known sighting of that little girl was at a nursing home on Sunday afternoon.

I hear you...but as far as Cindy hearing them. We would have to know what time she leaves for work and what time Casey arrived back home in the morning from Tonys. Cindy could have been in the shower or something and came out and Casey was in her room with Casey. Idk. None of it seems plausible anymore.

Do we know what time Cindy leaves for work?

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:29 PM
Lied about going back to school and also that Caylee's father was killed on the way to her birthday party. She never acted different or worried. She seemed completely normal and fine. Never once mentioned that Caylee was missing. :furious:

I am so MAD! I know I keep saying this, but god is this girl so much like my own daughter.......thank you lord her kids were taken away from her! I was ALWAYS scared something like this would happen. The way Casey is acting is so very typical of someone who has a life long history of lies.....

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:29 PM
Ah, finger rest . . . since you great posters are also watching Greta, I am going to feed my guy!!! Be back in a few . . .

lawlady84
08-13-2008, 10:30 PM
What hits me is that apparently Casey was out every night and her parents were OK with that.....she left Caylee with the grandparents every night. So when Caylee quit spending the night there all of the sudden, don't you think they would get suspicious sooner than 31 days later?

Maybe if she was staying at Tony's consistantly she said something to the extent of, Caylee & I are moving in with Tony and you won't be part of our family - and Cindy was mad but thought she actually just moved in with Tony and wasn't "missing"

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:30 PM
This kidnap crap is absolutely nuts....George thinks the kidnappers are following him everywhere?

Bless his heart....what would be their motive?

Elphaba
08-13-2008, 10:30 PM
Yall keep in mind that this is one person's story... it is going to need to be corroborated for it to stick. If TonE will step in and give a nod that what this man is saying is true, then this will truly be a significant piece of circumstantial evidence. I am not saying he may be lying, I am just saying: until he can be backed up and his statements verified, we can only go so far with the info he is sharing.

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:30 PM
Clip of George playing now...saying he's being watched. Threatening him bodily harm. Smirky, snarky.

I can't stand this man. He is a liar and does nothing to find his granddaughter or justice for his daughter.

I'm starting to wonder if this man is seriously off his rocker.

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:30 PM
Clint says Tony and Casey are pretty much "off". Clint said Greta would probably think Casey was a "good girl like we all did". Said Casey WAS at Fusion's on June 20th partying with friends. Said Casey told him what he perceives to be lies about Caylee's real dad. Clint said Casey acted completely normal since June 16th. Never mentioned Caylee missing or acting worried as if anything were wrong.

Adrienne37
08-13-2008, 10:31 PM
George is just as delusional as his daughter is. Lock them up and throw away the key, that's my opinion!

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:31 PM
I am so MAD! I know I keep saying this, but god is this girl so much like my own daughter.......thank you lord her kids were taken away from her! I was ALWAYS scared something like this would happen. The way Casey is acting is so very typical of someone who has a life long history of lies.....

Every time you post my heart breaks more for you, and my admiration for you goes up even more than that!! Too bad the Anthonys couldn't take a page out of your book!

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:31 PM
I hear you...but as far as Cindy hearing them. We would have to know what time she leaves for work and what time Casey arrived back home in the morning from Tonys. Cindy could have been in the shower or something and came out and Casey was in her room with Casey. Idk. None of it seems plausible anymore.

Do we know what time Cindy leaves for work?Let me see if I can find her original statement. I got the distinct impression that she heard them before going to bed, but I could be wrong.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:31 PM
George believes the FBI is following him, too -- of course they are!!!

amethyst221
08-13-2008, 10:31 PM
After hearing this, I am so unclear. I thought Cindy said she heard Casey and Caylee talking behind the door on the Monday morning after Father's Day, not the night before?? Anyway, if it was the night of FD, Casey could have left after that to go stay at Tony's, right? And she returned to her parents the following morning and later left with Caylee.

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:31 PM
What hits me is that apparently Casey was out every night and her parents were OK with that.....she left Caylee with the grandparents every night. So when Caylee quit spending the night there all of the sudden, don't you think they would get suspicious sooner than 31 days later?

Its been reported that there was a big screaming match between Casey and her parents on Fathers day....it seems they were in a fight.

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:31 PM
oh yea, it is a weird world we live in. They are going door to door......would the media not notice this? I just can not wrap my head around these grandparents. yuck, a sap just like his daughter

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:32 PM
Where did she supposedly get kidnapped from?!

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:32 PM
I think I understand all of this but just in case can someone please summarize the main points?

Thanks,
TriciaInterview with Clint (Tony's roomate during June until July 1-4.)

* States they met Casey at a birthday party they threw for friend's 24th. Casey had met Tony through Facebook. Tony and Casey hit if off immediately. She went home that night.

* Casey came back with Caylee possibly around May 29th to introduce her to Tony and to Clint. Saw a good relationship between the two with no sign of problems. Never yelled or was impatient with Caylee. Used flash cards to teach her shapes etc. Interacted well with her child.

* Casey showed up at Fusian on May 30th (the following Friday after party) and had a good time with Tony. Came back to spend the first night with Tony.

* Casey stayed with Tony off and on after that, but never with Caylee. They only would see Caylee during the day and Casey would say she was taking Caylee "home" to the grandparents then come back.

* Casey would get up and leave about the same time as Clint (presumably going to work) about 8:30-9:00 a.m.

* Casey always drove the Pontiac and Clint never saw her in another car.

* Clint said he went to Jacksonville and he returned on Sunday. When asked by Greta if Casey was there that night his reply was, "I believe so, yes, she was there. Caylee wasn't there."

Greta: Fast forward again to Father's Day, June 15th, you returned later that day, you think Casey spent the night there that Sunday night. Do you remember waking up that next day, the day after Father's Day?

Clint: Ah, yes, Monday for Class.

Greta: Do you remember seeing Caylee?

Clint: Uh No. Caylee was not...Like I said, Caylee never spent the night over there.

Greta: How about Casey? Was Casey there that morning if you remember?

Clint: I can't recall.

Greta: Do you remember anything else about June 16th?

Clint: No, nothing out of the ordinary.

more to come:

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:32 PM
Clip of George playing now...saying he's being watched. Threatening him bodily harm. Smirky, snarky.

I can't stand this man. He is a liar and does nothing to find his granddaughter or justice for his daughter.

I'm starting to wonder if this man is seriously off his rocker.
What a stark contrast to the very believable interview by Clint!

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:33 PM
OCPD has the nation behind them . . . FBI is assisting, large contingent of individuals willing to search for Caylee; however, Casey holds the key where Caylee is!!!

Leila
08-13-2008, 10:33 PM
I think I understand all of this but just in case can someone please summarize the main points?

Thanks,
Tricia

Clint was the roommate best friend of Tony, and was the DJ at Fusian for a while. Casey and Tony met through Facebook, and Tony evidently invited Casey to a party being held for a friend of Tony's. The party owas on May 24th and that was the first time Tony and Casey met face to face. Everyone liked Casey. Casey and Tony became romantically involved, and Casey brought Caylee over to meet Tony and Clint. Casey would spend the night, but not Caylee. When asked, Casey always said she was with her grandparents.

Clint never heard the name, Zenaida. The last time he saw Caylee was on Friday, June 13th. Clint spent Father's Day with his dad in Jacksonville.

Some of us think we heard Clint say that Casey spent the night on June 15th.........not sure, will have to watch the repeat of Greta.

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:33 PM
After hearing this, I am so unclear. I thought Cindy said she heard Casey and Caylee talking behind the door on the Monday morning after Father's Day, not the night before?? Anyway, if it was the night of FD, Casey could have left after that to go stay at Tony's, right? And she returned to her parents the following morning and later left with Caylee.

I thought I understood Clint to say that he couldn't say for sure that Casey spent the night on the 15th. He had returned home from being out of town. That doesn't rule out the possibility that she spent the night on the 15th, but he said he couldn't confirm it. Someone please correct me if I heard it wrong.

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:33 PM
Sheriff at Media Meeting today: "what we don't have is information on exactly where Caylee was at last...and Casey is the only one who has that information, and she's not talking. We can go rescue her (Caylee) if we have that starting point."

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:34 PM
Yall keep in mind that this is one person's story... it is going to need to be corroborated for it to stick. If TonE will step in and give a nod that what this man is saying is true, then this will truly be a significant piece of circumstantial evidence. I am not saying he may be lying, I am just saying: until he can be backed up and his statements verified, we can only go so far with the info he is sharing.

Tony and Clint have both been interviewed by LE. Im sure LE has all of this information.....hence lack of searches for Caylee. jmho

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:34 PM
Ah, Mark Furhman thoughts!!!

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:34 PM
What a stark contrast to the very believable interview by Clint!


Yes, so correct. Clint appears totally believable....very relaxed body language.

These grandparents are not making any sense....

Openmyeyes
08-13-2008, 10:34 PM
Does anyone else have any ideas why Cindy isn't begging and crying for people to find Caylee?

Yes...

OME

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:35 PM
Ah, Mark Furhman thoughts!!!
His thoughts are she's a liar! :clap:

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:35 PM
What a stark contrast to the very believable interview by Clint!

Something to hide. That's all I can think every time I see George.

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:35 PM
Every time you post my heart breaks more for you, and my admiration for you goes up even more than that!! Too bad the Anthonys couldn't take a page out of your book!

It could be my husband and I on TV right now. But then again, I KNOW it would be me in jail if my daughter had come home with some story like Casey....I would have lost it totally.

Something is not NORMAL with these grandparents. You can NOT ignore the behavior of your child like this when faced with such facts. I continue to state that both of these grandparents should be arrested, they disgust me.

Can you imagine........this little baby is laying someone, alone.....how in gods name can the grandparents continue on with this

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:35 PM
The only thing Mark cares about is WHEN Caylee went missing & WHAT Casey has to say about that day! Casey is hindering the investigation and not helping!

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:36 PM
Grand Jury! I have been saying this from the first week!

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:36 PM
Furman says...We're working with a bunch of people in this family who either don't know or won't tell.....

impatientredhead
08-13-2008, 10:36 PM
I thought I understood Clint to say that he couldn't say for sure that Casey spent the night on the 15th. He had returned home from being out of town. That doesn't rule out the possibility that she spent the night on the 15th, but he said he couldn't confirm it. Someone please correct me if I heard it wrong.

Definitely what I heard. She was staying most nights, but he travelled that weekend and could not be sure.

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:37 PM
It could be my husband and I on TV right now. But then again, I KNOW it would be me in jail if my daughter had come home with some story like Casey....I would have lost it totally.

Something is not NORMAL with these grandparents. You can NOT ignore the behavior of your child like this when faced with such facts. I continue to state that both of these grandparents should be arrested, they disgust me.

Can you imagine........this little baby is laying someone, alone.....how in gods name can the grandparents continue on with this

I agree. It's despicable of them.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:37 PM
Decomposing tissue with the organs inside the body is UNMISTAKEN . . . and Cindy should know what it smells like, eh?

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:37 PM
Mark Fuhrman is suggesting a grand jury with family, friends being subpoened to testify, and until that time no one will know. He's also talking about decomposing tissue, all LE knows that odor, and it is not pizza.

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:37 PM
Mark Fuhrman: "Casey has nothing to gain by coming forward other than implicating herself."

Ugh! For this sick "mother" that's unfortunately true.

MF also says the smell of human decomposition cannot be mistaken for pizza. This I also know to be true.

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:38 PM
Decomposing tissue with the organs inside the body is UNMISTAKEN . . . and Cindy should know what it smells like, eh?
Definitely George should know, being former LE.

miss lisa
08-13-2008, 10:38 PM
His thoughts are she's a liar! :clap:

They are all liars! Casey, Cindy & George! :furious:

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:38 PM
Sheriff at Media Meeting today: "what we don't have is information on exactly where Caylee was at last...and Casey is the only one who has that information, and she's not talking. We can go rescue her (Caylee) if we have that starting point."

:clap::clap::clap::clap: to LE

SeriouslySearching
08-13-2008, 10:39 PM
I have Tivo...I will go back to confirm what Clint said after this is over. :) No need to wait until the rerun.

sweetmop
08-13-2008, 10:39 PM
I thought I understood Clint to say that he couldn't say for sure that Casey spent the night on the 15th. He had returned home from being out of town. That doesn't rule out the possibility that she spent the night on the 15th, but he said he couldn't confirm it. Someone please correct me if I heard it wrong.

That's what I heard too, wishingtree. Clint couldn't remember.

distracted
08-13-2008, 10:39 PM
I watched it again. Clint said he thinks Casey was there for the night on Father's Day, that he couldn't say for sure. But his words about whether she was there the next morning, on the 16th, were "I can't recall."

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:39 PM
I will throw a fricken party when I see the FBI or local LE arrest this family.....not sure about the brother but let me tell you, these grandparents are without a doubt hindering this investigation. They are trying to throw as much as they can to confuse this issue furthur, and burden the local LE with false leads and lies. I personally don't agree with out grand jury system, but this case is totally one that it was made for

amethyst221
08-13-2008, 10:39 PM
Deleting so I don't cause confusion.

redmamatwo
08-13-2008, 10:39 PM
Well this is NOT looking good for "mother of the year".

Ditto...and didn't CIndy sayt hat the father was NEVER a part of Caylee's life, now he's going to bday parties? If that were the case Cindy would surely have know at least the guy's name? Whata bunch of lies.

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:40 PM
Definitely George should know, being former LE.

Cindy, too. Being a nurse...

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:41 PM
I have Tivo...I will go back to confirm what Clint said after this is over. :) No need to wait until the rerun.

Thanks! :) I definitely don't want to be someone who posts something incorrectly that lingers around to confuse matters even worse!

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:41 PM
TiVO-ed Greta & Clint said that the relationship was becoming tight and did not know if Caylee was an issue . . . does not want to put words in TonEs mouth; Father's Day -- Clint returned early evening and believed Casey spent the night but could not say for certain that Casey was there that morning when he left for class.

fixingtoburst
08-13-2008, 10:43 PM
I think someone would crack if they were all thrown in jail. Is there anything with which to pursue criminal charges on them for?

QuickAttack
08-13-2008, 10:43 PM
Ditto...and didn't CIndy sayt hat the father was NEVER a part of Caylee's life, now he's going to bday parties? If that were the case Cindy would surely have know at least the guy's name? Whata bunch of lies.

I think that every member of this family lies. When asked a question, they just say whatever comes to mind, whether it's true or not.

Casey wasn't born a liar. Evidently, it's learned behavior for her.

You know, this family could have had so much sympathy from the community...but their behavior has caused them to be looked upon with a suspicious eye.

Elphaba
08-13-2008, 10:43 PM
Tony and Clint have both been interviewed by LE. Im sure LE has all of this information.....hence lack of searches for Caylee. jmho

TY for the info on that... that does lend a huge load of credibility to what he is saying, for me. (I don't have cable, so I am getting bits and pieces through postings, so I didn't know that Clint had given this info to LE.)

impatientredhead
08-13-2008, 10:43 PM
I find it interesting that Casey didn't even think to incorporate normal mothering things into her act while hanging out at Tony's. For you mother's out there, when you had an almost three year old, if you spent many many nights (probably even one) away from your toddler wouldn't you be on the phone with the nanny and saying goodnight to your child daily?

fixingtoburst
08-13-2008, 10:44 PM
Throw them all into jail and see who starts blabbing.

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:44 PM
Panelists coming in now....

Openmyeyes
08-13-2008, 10:44 PM
Mitchlite - you don't know about Lee because he has distanced himself from this. He is not in on it. Like Casey said to Cindy - "you don't know what my involvement is in this?"

Oh I so don't like what I'm thinking.........

OME

sweetmop
08-13-2008, 10:45 PM
And Casey never mentioned the name Zanaida Gonzales.

Does this surprise anyone?

bowler
08-13-2008, 10:45 PM
I have a question.

When did the GP's go on vacation?

Where did they go?

Did Casey have Caylee with them at night, then Father's Day they tell her they can not keep her at night, so Casey is PO'd her party life with BF and others is being interrupted ?

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:45 PM
Clint: "When the story broke that Caylee went missing, we were all like - what!?" "I know we saw Caylee AFTER June 9th" [..so the first reports of June 9th Clint says he knew was wrong. But he did say he never saw Caylee again after June 16th].

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:45 PM
Clint told LE that he had seen Caylee AFTER 9 Jun . . . Casey was staying at the house every night but Caylee did not; after Father's Day Casey did not mention Caylee anymore

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:46 PM
Liars raise Liars

Thats all I can say about this family

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:46 PM
I find it interesting that Casey didn't even think to incorporate normal mothering things into her act while hanging out at Tony's. For you mother's out there, when you had an almost three year old, if you spent many many nights (probably even one) away from your toddler wouldn't you be on the phone with the nanny and saying goodnight to your child daily?

I am really not that old :) I had two small children and then divorced...I NEVER, EVER had my children at any mans house. I only dated when they were with there father on the weekends. Never!

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:46 PM
I love Ted!

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:47 PM
Motive is that she wanted to be with the boyfriend...says Ted.

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:47 PM
According to the timeline in the Orlando Sentinel, Cindy testified at the bond hearing that she remembers tucking Caylee in with Casey on the night of June 15th.


Anthony, 22, told investigators she hadn't seen the girl since June 9 when she dropped her off at a baby sitter. But in court Tuesday, Cindy Anthony said she now remembers tucking Caylee in with her mother at bedtime on Father's Day, June 15. Cindy and Casey Anthony reported the girl missing last Tuesday.

http://mobile.orlandosentinel.com/detail.jsp?key=161579&rc=top&full=1

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:47 PM
I love Ted!

Me too!! :clap::clap::clap:

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:48 PM
Grand Jury! I have been saying this from the first week!
You're not alone. And since they're held in secret, there could be proceedings right now we know nothing about.

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:48 PM
Somebody needs to punch the long-haired dude....LOL

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:48 PM
I'm ready to smack panelist Jeff, though!!!!!!! :furious:

sweetmop
08-13-2008, 10:48 PM
I find it interesting that Casey didn't even think to incorporate normal mothering things into her act while hanging out at Tony's. For you mother's out there, when you had an almost three year old, if you spent many many nights (probably even one) away from your toddler wouldn't you be on the phone with the nanny and saying goodnight to your child daily?

Wonderful thought impatient. and you're right. Yes! You always call and check on the kids!!!

Heck, I used to call home and check and see how things were if we went out to dinner and left the kids with a sitter for a few hours!:)

None of this story makes any logical sense to normal parents!!!

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:48 PM
Clint told LE that he had seen Caylee AFTER 9 Jun . . . Casey was staying at the house every night but Caylee did not; after Father's Day Casey did not mention Caylee anymore

Did he really say that? That she didn't mention Caylee anymore?

I'm really going to be sick. Out of sight out of mind. Disgusting.:furious:

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:48 PM
Liars raise Liars

Thats all I can say about this family That is true....the studys show only two reason why someone is like this. It is learned behavior, or is due to detachment disorder and negative attention disorder. They call it lots of things.

wishingtree
08-13-2008, 10:48 PM
Somebody needs to punch the long-haired dude....LOL

Great minds think alike!! :)

sweetmop
08-13-2008, 10:49 PM
:clap::clap::clap:


Somebody needs to punch the long-haired dude....LOL

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:49 PM
According to the timeline in the Orlando Sentinel, Cindy testified at the bond hearing that she remembers tucking Caylee in with Casey on the night of June 16th.



http://mobile.orlandosentinel.com/detail.jsp?key=161579&rc=top&full=1
Thanks Diane.

MarleneM
08-13-2008, 10:50 PM
"Experts" are yelling at each other now over theories after Clint's interview. Bottom line for the defense attorneys: "OK. Now prove it."

{Personal note: Insert icon for slamming my head into wall.}

fixingtoburst
08-13-2008, 10:50 PM
Throw them all in jail and don't let them talk to each other. I bet someone would start cracking pretty quick.

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:50 PM
You're not alone. And since they're held in secret, there could be proceedings right now we know nothing about.

I thought of that, but I think with all the media attention that it would come out. With the media following the family around I think it would be kinda hard not to find out. But maybe not :confused:

I do think if the grandparents were going door to door the media would be showing clips of this

ketel0ne
08-13-2008, 10:51 PM
Did he really say that? That she didn't mention Caylee anymore?

I'm really going to be sick. Out of sight out of mind. Disgusting.:furious:

Apparently only if she was asked.

sweetmop
08-13-2008, 10:51 PM
Can someone email this to The Mother of the Year and her parents?

http://www.thelieguyblog.com/my_weblog/2008/08/for-the-anthonys---its-time-for-a-come-to-jesus-meeting.html

Sunshinegirl
08-13-2008, 10:52 PM
WHOA!!! Did the friend on Greta just say that Casey spent the night at Tony's on the 16th???????? Isn't that the same night that the Grandparents say that Cindy spent the night at their house as well??????

Really confused here... can someone confirm the statement??? :waitasec:

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:52 PM
Cindy, too. Being a nurse...
I think what was key about Mark's comments though is he referred to "every cop" (paraphrased) so I think it was directed at George. MOO

shefner
08-13-2008, 10:52 PM
I truly feel for all parents....I have 4 children myself and they're all teens and young adults now. Sometimes they really disappoint ya....

But these parents have created a beast in Casey...she was in her 20's and paid no rent, groceries or bills....She had a young daughter she didn't care for....she stayed out all night at guys' houses or apartments when she just met them....
Hey...NOT ON MY WATCH!

These parents should have put their foot down....and right on her sweet behind.

redmamatwo
08-13-2008, 10:52 PM
I find it interesting that Casey didn't even think to incorporate normal mothering things into her act while hanging out at Tony's. For you mother's out there, when you had an almost three year old, if you spent many many nights (probably even one) away from your toddler wouldn't you be on the phone with the nanny and saying goodnight to your child daily?

People make fun of me when my 3 year old spends the night with family, b/c I am still giving instructions as if they never had kids and calling to tell her goodnight, then callingto make sure she went to sleep, then calling inthe moringing to say good morning. then again I am not going out partying while she's there, quite nights alone...(ah they are cherished, especially with another on the way), but I wouldn't be able to sleep without taking to her first! Very strange behavior by her indeed.

yosande
08-13-2008, 10:52 PM
That puts tremendous weight on George's statement that he saw Casey and Caylee the following noontime, and puts the lie to Cindy's statement that she "heard them through the door" the night of the 15th.

Wow.

um not really, it seems as though Casey would bring her home and tuck her in, then leave and go back to Tony's, and come back in the morning to care for Caylee.

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:52 PM
Thanks Diane.....that looks very very bad for Cindy. Perjury much?Fix the quote, willya? I corrected my post to say that it was June 15th when she tucked 'them' in.

Thanks!

amethyst221
08-13-2008, 10:53 PM
Somebody needs to punch the long-haired dude....LOL

I volunteer for the job. I haven't looked at the elements of child neglect under Florida law, but surely, within the spirit of that law, a child that has been misplaced and whose whereabouts are unknown for over 30 days, and for whom no help is sought from LE or others, by the parent who has responsibility for her, is neglected and/or abandoned.

SusieClue
08-13-2008, 10:53 PM
the most damning...her telling her friends that Caylee was with the GP's when she had supposedly been kidnapped.

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:53 PM
Throw them all in jail and don't let them talk to each other. I bet someone would start cracking pretty quick.

I know I got hit pretty hard a couple of days ago when I said this, but from my thinking, the only thing that I see would make the grandparents fess up is if there son Lee was arrested. I know,why arrest him- to add great pressure to the family, It's not far, it's mean, but if they could find one thing Lee lied about I think it would break this case. And no, Casey would not give a rats butt if her brother was arrested.

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:53 PM
I love Ted!

I love Ted, too!

tuppence
08-13-2008, 10:54 PM
I REFUSE to listen to one more interview with these idiot grandparents

The ONLY one watching over this child is God

Those grandparents are the ones that took care of that child - fed her, loved her, nurtured her. They are the ones that told the police she was missing and have done everything to try to find her alive. It makes me sick to see people who have no idea what they are going through criticize them.

They have done nothing but try to focus on Caylee to the detriment of their finances their health...everything. They love that child like any grandparent would. They have said if turns out Casey hurt her then she deserves what she gets but until then they are leaving no stone unturned.

I hope you never are in a situation where people treat you with such cruelty is apparently easy for you to dish out to these poor people.

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:54 PM
"Experts" are yelling at each other now over theories after Clint's interview. Bottom line for the defense attorneys: "OK. Now prove it."

{Personal note: Insert icon for slamming my head into wall.}
There seemed to be some disagreement on whether child neglect could be proved. My question, is it legal for a mother to just hand her child off to someone else to take care of permanently? In this case, couldn't that person be charged with obstruction or something for not coming forward and saying they have Caylee? Not that I believe this scenario is true at all!

DianeB
08-13-2008, 10:54 PM
um not really, it seems as though Casey would bring her home and tuck her in, then leave and go back to Tony's, and come back in the morning to care for Caylee.There was nowhere for Casey to "bring her home" from. She was with CINDY that day, at the nursing home.

shannon718
08-13-2008, 10:54 PM
Fix the quote, willya? I corrected my post to say that it was June 15th when she tucked 'them' in.

Thanks!

Done....:blowkiss:

panthera
08-13-2008, 10:55 PM
the most damning...her telling her friends that Caylee was with the GP's when she had supposedly been kidnapped.
Yes, I completely agree! And her not mentioning anything about this "kidnapping" and being out partying on 6/20. Something happened that week, imo, and it wasn't an accident. MOO

miss lisa
08-13-2008, 10:55 PM
Throw them all in jail and don't let them talk to each other. I bet someone would start cracking pretty quick.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

krimekat
08-13-2008, 10:55 PM
Somebody needs to punch the long-haired dude....LOL

Amen!! Not child neglect, excuse me but if I didn't have my kid for 31 days, someone in my family would call PD & ask them to arrest me for child neglect

MitchLite
08-13-2008, 10:55 PM
Can someone email this to The Mother of the Year and her parents?

http://www.thelieguyblog.com/my_weblog/2008/08/for-the-anthonys---its-time-for-a-come-to-jesus-meeting.html

Amen!

sweetmop
08-13-2008, 10:56 PM
Can someone email this to The Mother of the Year and her parents?

http://www.thelieguyblog.com/my_weblog/2008/08/for-the-anthonys---its-time-for-a-come-to-jesus-meeting.html

Forgive me please for quoting myself:crazy:

I especially like the last paragragh of the above article, copied below


"Casey as most psychopath's crave attention. Take that away from her. Psychopaths have to have a crowd - someone to victimize and use. Take that away from them and they crumble. I'd suggest her parents and brother cut off communications with her. I'd tell her "we will not talk to you again until you tell us where we can find Caylee." "If she calls and tries to talk them they should ask "Are you going to tell us where we can find Caylee?" "No?" "Goodbye."

tuppence
08-13-2008, 10:56 PM
That's what puts the weight on George's statement - either he really did see them on the 16th, or he's mistaken, in which case suspicion starts to fall on Cindy, who was the last person to have been verified as being with Caylee on the 15th.

really? please explain the 911 calls then. Why did Cindy freak out in multiple calls when Casey refused to produce Caylee? Have you listened to them?