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commongrackle
08-16-2008, 08:28 PM
I posted the following in another thread, but have not received responses, I thought it might do better to have a separate thread.

Okay, I believe I read in another thread that Z. Gonzales (but not the same "ZG" who Casey left Caylee with) actually checked out the apartments at Sawgrass at one point in time? Is this true and on what date did this occur?

Also, do we know the address of the "wrong" ZG? And I am curious to how LE excluded her involvment...simply because she stated that she did not know the Anthonys?

For argument's sake(I don't really believe this happened)...CA and ZG agree that CA will say the last person she left Caylee with was ZG at Sawgrass, and that when confronted ZG will claim not to know the Anthony's and that CA would then claim that ZG was not the same ZG.

How common a name is ZG?

Just some things I thought of as I was reading...what do you think?

Dolphinmomcca
08-16-2008, 08:31 PM
I posted the following in another thread, but have not received responses, I thought it might do better to have a separate thread.

Okay, I believe I read in another thread that Z. Gonzales (but not the same "ZG" who Casey left Caylee with) actually checked out the apartments at Sawgrass at one point in time? Is this true and on what date did this occur?

Also, do we know the address of the "wrong" ZG? And I am curious to how LE excluded her involvment...simply because she stated that she did not know the Anthonys?

For argument's sake(I don't really believe this happened)...CA and ZG agree that CA will say the last person she left Caylee with was ZG at Sawgrass, and that when confronted ZG will claim not to know the Anthony's and that CA would then claim that ZG was not the same ZG.

How common a name is ZG?

Just some things I thought of as I was reading...what do you think?


ZG Went to see about the apartment on the 17th of June. The name ZG is VERY common in that area I have read on here......400 within a certain distance and 20 or so (correct me if Im wrong) in the immediate distance of this whole thing.

coltsgal
08-16-2008, 08:32 PM
well one thing is for sure, they showed casey a pic of the ZG they interviewed (from Sawgrass), and casey said that's not her.

jinnimae
08-16-2008, 08:34 PM
I posted the following in another thread, but have not received responses, I thought it might do better to have a separate thread.

Okay, I believe I read in another thread that Z. Gonzales (but not the same "ZG" who Casey left Caylee with) actually checked out the apartments at Sawgrass at one point in time? Is this true and on what date did this occur?
Yes, a ZG did check out the apartments...can't remember the date, check the Aug 4th search warrant

Also, do we know the address of the "wrong" ZG? And I am curious to how LE excluded her involvment...simply because she stated that she did not know the Anthonys?

She was interviewed by LE and cleared.
For argument's sake(I don't really believe this happened)...CA and ZG agree that CA will say the last person she left Caylee with was ZG at Sawgrass, and that when confronted ZG will claim not to know the Anthony's and that CA would then claim that ZG was not the same ZG.

How common a name is ZG?
Quite common I've heard.

Just some things I thought of as I was reading...what do you think?

NighTillDawn
08-16-2008, 08:36 PM
well one thing is for sure, they showed casey a pic of the ZG they interviewed (from Sawgrass), and casey said that's not her.

What's the chance though of there being a ZG who happened to stumble across the Sawgrass Apts at the same time Caylee goes missing? How does the LE dismiss anyone just by them saying they have no clue who so and so is. I watch this program called The First 48 on A&E. How many times has someone said they never knew such and such a person bla bla bla and then later on after being brought in again for questioning cave in and say they did know so and so because evidence produced placed the perp with the victim.

MD MOMMY
08-16-2008, 08:37 PM
Well if that is the case the ZG that they found would be facing tons of charges..why would someone do this for Casey..what would the motive be? IDK I don't really buy that theory.

NighTillDawn
08-16-2008, 08:44 PM
Well if that is the case the ZG that they found would be facing tons of charges..why would someone do this for Casey..what would the motive be? IDK I don't really buy that theory.

People have been known to do it before, and I have no clue either, just find it strange that Casey said Caylee was with ZG, dropped her off at Sawgrass Apts, and that a ZG did go to Sawgrass Apts. The only thing I could think of was that Casey somehow managed to get the guest list of people who was at the Sawgrass Apts that day???
:banghead: I'm starting to get a headache

MD MOMMY
08-16-2008, 08:47 PM
People have been known to do it before, and I have no clue either, just find it strange that Casey said Caylee was with ZG, dropped her off at Sawgrass Apts, and that a ZG did go to Sawgrass Apts. The only thing I could think of was that Casey somehow managed to get the guest list of people who was at the Sawgrass Apts that day???
:banghead: I'm starting to get a headache

I think she has a friend perhaps that works there or knows someone who knows someone...that is my theory..I have a headache too. I guess I always try to find a motive for someone to do something but you're right it isn't always the case.

commongrackle
08-16-2008, 08:50 PM
Thanks everyone, for taking the time to respond...I have read through so many of the threads pertaining to this case, but I really have a hard time of keeping things straight, remembering things...I fear Early Onset Alzheimer's.

DolphinMom: Okay...do we know, did police verify with the "wrong" ZG that she had truly checked out Sawgrass Apts?

Jinniemae: Is that Aug 4th search warrant for ZG? Also, ZG was interviewed by police and cleared...did this involve a lie detector test? Someone is implicated in a case such as this and all the police do is ask her a few questions? That seems strange, even if Casey said that she wasn't the correct ZG. And, is the ZG questioned by police the same one that checked out Sawgrass?



NighTillDawn: That's what I can't get past. What a coincidence.

Thanks again, guys!

Leila
08-16-2008, 08:53 PM
The Zenaida Gonzolas who went to the Sawgrass Apartments on June 17th is married with 4 children. In one report, it was stated that her husband waited in the car while she looked at the apartment. In that same report, it was stated that she and her husband looked a several other apartments that day in the area

NighTillDawn
08-16-2008, 08:56 PM
The Zenaida Gonzolas who went to the Sawgrass Apartments on June 17th is married with 4 children. In one report, it was stated that her husband waited in the car while she looked at the apartment. In that same report, it was stated that she and her husband looked a several other apartments that day in the area

Then Casey somehow knows someone who works at Sawgrass Apts and got the guest list because that is the only way she could have known. So, which one of Casey's beloved friends would like to step forward and confess?

commongrackle
08-16-2008, 09:04 PM
The Zenaida Gonzolas who went to the Sawgrass Apartments on June 17th is married with 4 children. In one report, it was stated that her husband waited in the car while she looked at the apartment. In that same report, it was stated that she and her husband looked a several other apartments that day in the area

Is this the same Zenaida G. interview by police?

LI_Mom
08-16-2008, 09:06 PM
well one thing is for sure, they showed casey a pic of the ZG they interviewed (from Sawgrass), and casey said that's not her.


And Casey didn't recognize pictures of the Sawgrass ZG or any other ZG they showed her. Casey says they just haven't found the right ZG yet.

It's too darned bad Casey doesn't happen to have a real address or real phone number for the nanny who watched her daughter for years.

NighTillDawn
08-16-2008, 09:09 PM
And Casey didn't recognize pictures of the Sawgrass ZG or any other ZG they showed her. Casey says they just haven't found the right ZG yet.

It's too darned bad Casey doesn't happen to have a real address or real phone number for the nanny who watched her daughter for years.

So let me get this straight, Casey just happens to say that a ZG took Caylee and she dropped Caylee off with this ZG at the Sawgrass Apts, so now there are two ZG at Sawgrass Apts? OMG, what next? The name ZG may be common in Florida , but two of them at the same place at the same time are the same odds as me going to the casino right now and winning a million dollars.
What mother does not have information for their child's babysitter/nanny? Bogus.

Thinking_Out_Loud
08-16-2008, 09:17 PM
Check local6.com they have an exclusive interview with ZG. She says that she has kids and was looking for apartments up and down Conway. Her boyfriend told her to check out Sawgrass because they looked pretty. Also, she said that she cannot acquire a job because people are thinking that she is associtated with this case. Funny how she is looking for an apartment if she might not be employed. She said that LE contacted her four times to before they cleared her. She said that they looked at her car too because Casey told them that she has a 2008 Ford Focus. At this time, we don't know what kind of car she has. I don't know if she is really cleared, it is just what they are telling people. If it were me, I would have someone watching her home.

We also know that she is living in Kissimmee. We also know that the apartment management said that they remembered ZG viewing that apartment which happens to be a vacant apt on the third floor instead of a model. Apartment management said that this ZG had above shoulder brown hair and looked hispanic. They have never seen Casey or Caylee in their offices. I found it also interesting that the ZG in the video looks like she has blondish hair that is well passed her shoulders. It made me wonder if there could have been someone else involved. Perhaps this ZG had a friend with her that was posing as her?

Oh yeah, and management verified that she was the only Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment that year at Sawgrass! I'm sorry, but I don't believe in coincidences, and I don't think that Casey is smart enough to have been using the name Zanny for so long then tracking a ZG to this apartment...

Dolphinmomcca
08-16-2008, 09:25 PM
Thanks everyone, for taking the time to respond...I have read through so many of the threads pertaining to this case, but I really have a hard time of keeping things straight, remembering things...I fear Early Onset Alzheimer's.

DolphinMom: Okay...do we know, did police verify with the "wrong" ZG that she had truly checked out Sawgrass Apts?

Jinniemae: Is that Aug 4th search warrant for ZG? Also, ZG was interviewed by police and cleared...did this involve a lie detector test? Someone is implicated in a case such as this and all the police do is ask her a few questions? That seems strange, even if Casey said that she wasn't the correct ZG. And, is the ZG questioned by police the same one that checked out Sawgrass?



NighTillDawn: That's what I can't get past. What a coincidence.

Thanks again, guys!


Yes, I am quite sure she admitted to being at the apartment looking (and filled out a visitor card) but does NOT know Casey or Caylee.
Now another thought......I wonder how long and why this ZG (the wrong one) is making a big deal out of not being able to find a job now.....was she already in the process when this all came up? why would she be looking at a new apartment if she wasnt working to pay for it??

commongrackle
08-16-2008, 09:48 PM
UGH! My questions are being answered and I'm only becoming more confounded.




The bewonderment of Casey's lies...

LI_Mom
08-16-2008, 09:54 PM
So let me get this straight, Casey just happens to say that a ZG took Caylee and she dropped Caylee off with this ZG at the Sawgrass Apts, so now there are two ZG at Sawgrass Apts? OMG, what next? The name ZG may be common in Florida , but two of them at the same place at the same time are the same odds as me going to the casino right now and winning a million dollars.
What mother does not have information for their child's babysitter/nanny? Bogus.

No there are MANY different ZG's that LE tracked down... just one at Sawgrass though.


Theory:

Casey was there when this ZG was signing in & saw the card with the personal info.... that was April 17th.

It's possible Casey was at Sawgrass visiting some guy's apt for a quickie or something of the sort.


Casey's parents might have started asking her who was watching Caylee during the days & Casey might have gone about creating a nanny character.... real person BUT she'd avoid giving any phone numbers & her parents would be too busy/lazy to do much more than be pleased at how responsible Casey was finally becoming.


Caylee's missing & needing someone else to blame she blurts out the nanny's name.... not knowing ZG never signed a lease so she's quickly caught in a lie when she gives this info to police in July.

If that ZG actually was living in the apt, isn't it likely Casey wouldn't have been arrested.... police would have spent a long time investigating Zenaida & thinking Caylee was kidnapped by ZG or someone connected to her.

Vegas Bride
08-16-2008, 09:55 PM
If she has 4 kids she probably would be getting some kind of help even if she wasn't working. She might be thinking this is an opportunity to put out there that she's looking for a job in hope of getting hired by someone, just turning it to her advantage in hopes for a job offer.

If they do get Casey bailed out and she needs ppl watching her 24/7 maybe they can hire this Zanita, then she really could be Zanny the Nanny!

VB

commongrackle
08-16-2008, 09:56 PM
No there are MANY different ZG's that LE tracked down... just one at Sawgrass though.


Theory:

Casey was there when this ZG was signing in & saw the card with the personal info.... that was April 17th.

It's possible Casey was at Sawgrass visiting some guy's apt for a quickie or something of the sort.


Casey's parents might have started asking her who was watching Caylee during the days & Casey might have gone about creating a nanny character.... real person BUT she'd avoid giving any phone numbers & her parents would be too busy/lazy to do much more than be pleased at how responsible Casey was finally becoming.


Caylee's missing & needing someone else to blame she blurts out the nanny's name.... not knowing ZG never signed a lease so she's quickly caught in a lie when she gives this info to police in July.

If that ZG actually was living in the apt, isn't it likely Casey wouldn't have been arrested.... police would have spent a long time investigating Zenaida & thinking Caylee was kidnapped by ZG or someone connected to her.

Hmm, interesting. I like your thinking LI!

commongrackle
08-16-2008, 11:59 PM
Okay...supposedly Zanny was Caylee's babysitter for a year or so? Did CA's family or friends know the babysitter's name to be ZG prior to Caylee's disappearance/Casey's arrest?

Then later, somehow a ZG checks out an apartment, where CA later says she left Caylee with ZG? But, it's not the known ZG. And that's all a huge coincidence...and her "babysitter" has had that name all along?

sweetwater
08-17-2008, 12:19 AM
Check local6.com they have an exclusive interview with ZG. She says that she has kids and was looking for apartments up and down Conway. Her boyfriend told her to check out Sawgrass because they looked pretty. Also, she said that she cannot acquire a job because people are thinking that she is associtated with this case. Funny how she is looking for an apartment if she might not be employed. She said that LE contacted her four times to before they cleared her. She said that they looked at her car too because Casey told them that she has a 2008 Ford Focus. At this time, we don't know what kind of car she has. I don't know if she is really cleared, it is just what they are telling people. If it were me, I would have someone watching her home.

We also know that she is living in Kissimmee. We also know that the apartment management said that they remembered ZG viewing that apartment which happens to be a vacant apt on the third floor instead of a model. Apartment management said that this ZG had above shoulder brown hair and looked hispanic. They have never seen Casey or Caylee in their offices. I found it also interesting that the ZG in the video looks like she has blondish hair that is well passed her shoulders. It made me wonder if there could have been someone else involved. Perhaps this ZG had a friend with her that was posing as her?

Oh yeah, and management verified that she was the only Zenaida Gonzalez that looked at an apartment that year at Sawgrass! I'm sorry, but I don't believe in coincidences, and I don't think that Casey is smart enough to have been using the name Zanny for so long then tracking a ZG to this apartment...

OK, but, ZFG of Casey Anthony fame should be able to be drawn by a sketch artist, right? Don't you think we would have seen her likeness plastered everywhere if Casey was able to describe her? She has not given a description. So, that brings us back to.... what? Any ideas?

Saffron
08-17-2008, 12:24 AM
Yeah, I also wondered how long Casey had been using the name Zenaida when referring to a nanny.

Also, did this ZG that police interviewed have the hypenated last name? I don't remember what it was, but Casey said (something like) "Zenaida Hernandez-Gonzalez". Did this woman have that exact name?

NighTillDawn
08-17-2008, 12:28 AM
Yeah, I also wondered how long Casey had been using the name Zenaida when referring to a nanny.

Also, did this ZG that police interviewed have the hypenated last name? I don't remember what it was, but Casey said (something like) "Zenaida Hernandez-Gonzalez". Did this woman have that exact name?

Very good question Saffron, waiting on an answer for that one too.

sweetwater
08-17-2008, 12:34 AM
Okay...supposedly Zanny was Caylee's babysitter for a year or so? Did CA's family or friends know the babysitter's name to be ZG prior to Caylee's disappearance/Casey's arrest?

Then later, somehow a ZG checks out an apartment, where CA later says she left Caylee with ZG? But, it's not the known ZG. And that's all a huge coincidence...and her "babysitter" has had that name all along?

Commongrackle-
I got into gackles a few years ago, too. I have never heard of anyone else liking them. Funny.
Anyway, this whole Zanaida thing is well, zaney. I think we might have more luck if we look into aney's or zany's or something like that.
No one in her family, and none of her friends or recent friends or boyfriends have ever met the "nanny."

commongrackle
08-17-2008, 12:43 AM
Also...it is stated that Casey last saw Caylee on June 9th, handing her off to "the babysitter".

I thought I read that Grandma took Caylee to see her great-grandpa on Father's Day?

Okay...what's up with this!?

Grandma says at first the last time she saw Caylee was the 8th. Casey tells LE that she last saw Caylee on the 9th. But, Grandma was wrong, it was actually the 15th? So, you're telling me that the GP did not see Caylee from the 8th until the 15th? When did George last see Caylee? And at what point in the investigating did everyone give these dates?

Thinking_Out_Loud
08-17-2008, 12:54 AM
OK, but, ZFG of Casey Anthony fame should be able to be drawn by a sketch artist, right? Don't you think we would have seen her likeness plastered everywhere if Casey was able to describe her? She has not given a description. So, that brings us back to.... what? Any ideas?

LE and the attorney's said that Casey gave a description. They released the description but not a sketch. As of now, LE does not know if it is another of Casey's lies so they won't release it. According to Casey, ZG is supposed to have curly hair that she sometimes straightens. She said that she drives a '08 Ford Focus, and is 26years old weighs 140lbs and is about 5'7".
I think she provided a family member or her atty that info. I don't know if they believe her though. It seems that if they did, then they would add that to the flyer or their websites...

NighTillDawn
08-17-2008, 12:58 AM
LE and the attorney's said that Casey gave a description. They released the description but not a sketch. As of now, LE does not know if it is another of Casey's lies so they won't release it. According to Casey, ZG is supposed to have curly hair that she sometimes straightens. She said that she drives a '08 Ford Focus, and is 26years old weighs 140lbs and is about 5'7".
I think she provided a family member or her atty that info. I don't know if they believe her though. It seems that if they did, then they would add that to the flyer or their websites...

It doesn't take much to make a sketch of someone you've known for years. Even my 11 year old can describe her siblings who live in a different state who she hasn't seen in years. It's impossible that Casey doesn't know the description of the woman who supposedly has her daughter. No description, no phone number, no address - amazing, ZG must be a magician. POOF Magic

Thinking_Out_Loud
08-17-2008, 01:03 AM
What interests me about this ZG is that Zeny or Zeni (the e should sound like the one in "PEZ") is a common nickname for Zenaida; however, the way that the family uses it sounds like Zanny (which ryhmes with nanny). It seems like they mispronounce the woman's nickname. The family might not speak spanish, but Casey has supposedly been friends with this woman for a long time. You would think that she would have corrected Casey, and Casey would have corrected her mother.

Thinking_Out_Loud
08-17-2008, 01:06 AM
It doesn't take much to make a sketch of someone you've known for years. Even my 11 year old can describe her siblings who live in a different state who she hasn't seen in years. It's impossible that Casey doesn't know the description of the woman who supposedly has her daughter. No description, no phone number, no address - amazing, ZG must be a magician. POOF Magic


Allegedly, she did work with someone to provide a sketch. LE won't release it or the one that they have from the woman that said she saw her at OIA.

sweetwater
08-17-2008, 01:06 AM
Also...it is stated that Casey last saw Caylee on June 9th, handing her off to "the babysitter".

I thought I read that Grandma took Caylee to see her great-grandpa on Father's Day?

Okay...what's up with this!?

Grandma says at first the last time she saw Caylee was the 8th. Casey tells LE that she last saw Caylee on the 9th. But, Grandma was wrong, it was actually the 15th? So, you're telling me that the GP did not see Caylee from the 8th until the 15th? When did George last see Caylee? And at what point in the investigating did everyone give these dates?

Yes, you did read that she took Caylee to visit on Father's Day.
Actually, LE found the video from Father's Day on a laptop, I think Caseys', that they confiscated the night they first started investigating her. So they confronted Cindy about it at the Bond hearing.
You can find, someplace on the main page, a Timeline link; it is very helpful.
Basically, there is a lot of contradictory information and, how does Cindy call them, "mistruths" out there. Umm, or, Anthonyspeak from Anthonyworld, where nothing is ever as it seems to be and children are lost and nobody notices or cares as much about them as they do about their bank accounts.
That's what it comes down to for me. Cindy never got on the phone or drove around or asked her son, Lee, to find Caylee in a month's time. But when she had to pay to get her car out of the towyard, and had her bank statements showing money missing, boy, she drove straight to the police station. When they were closed, she started calling 911 to report Grand Theft. It wasn't until, I think, 3-4 hours after she picked up Casey that she reported Caylee missing.
Poor little Caylee.

commongrackle
08-17-2008, 01:26 AM
Yes, you did read that she took Caylee to visit on Father's Day.
Actually, LE found the video from Father's Day on a laptop, I think Caseys', that they confiscated the night they first started investigating her. So they confronted Cindy about it at the Bond hearing.
You can find, someplace on the main page, a Timeline link; it is very helpful.
Basically, there is a lot of contradictory information and, how does Cindy call them, "mistruths" out there. Umm, or, Anthonyspeak from Anthonyworld, where nothing is ever as it seems to be and children are lost and nobody notices or cares as much about them as they do about their bank accounts.
That's what it comes down to for me. Cindy never got on the phone or drove around or asked her son, Lee, to find Caylee in a month's time. But when she had to pay to get her car out of the towyard, and had her bank statements showing money missing, boy, she drove straight to the police station. When they were closed, she started calling 911 to report Grand Theft. It wasn't until, I think, 3-4 hours after she picked up Casey that she reported Caylee missing.
Poor little Caylee.

:banghead::doh:

Oh, I've been looking at the timeline...It would be very helpful...if anything actually made sense!

commongrackle
08-17-2008, 01:28 AM
What interests me about this ZG is that Zeny or Zeni (the e should sound like the one in "PEZ") is a common nickname for Zenaida; however, the way that the family uses it sounds like Zanny (which ryhmes with nanny). It seems like they mispronounce the woman's nickname. The family might not speak spanish, but Casey has supposedly been friends with this woman for a long time. You would think that she would have corrected Casey, and Casey would have corrected her mother.

Which brings me back to the question: How long have Casey's family/friends known "the babysitter"'s name to be Zenaida? Has this ever been answered?

Muzikman
08-17-2008, 01:49 AM
Which brings me back to the question: How long have Casey's family/friends known "the babysitter"'s name to be Zenaida? Has this ever been answered?

Cindy is the only one to claim to have heard her name before (Don't think George has, that I recall). And Cindy has proven NOT to be trustworthy with her statements.

Pretty sure that Lee said he had never heard her name before (in an impromptu questioning session with media) and none of her friends have, according to Tony's DJ ex-roommate.

commongrackle
08-17-2008, 02:01 AM
Thank you, Muzikman. That had really been bothering me.

sweetwater
08-17-2008, 02:03 AM
Allegedly, she did work with someone to provide a sketch. LE won't release it or the one that they have from the woman that said she saw her at OIA.

Allegedly alleged by whom, pray tell? The Anthony's?
According to the Sheriff's most recent statement, there is no credible reason to believe that poor little Caylee was kidnapped.

Leila
08-17-2008, 02:31 AM
Is this the same Zenaida G. interview by police?

Yes, the one whom LE interviewed and cleared.

LoriKeet
08-17-2008, 08:48 AM
Not only has NO ONE heard of ZG prior to Caylee being missing. But we now know that Casey never received messages or called ZG, and ZG never called or received messages from Casey. AND, if Caylee was primarily being taken care of by Cindy and George, WHY didn't they have ZG's contact info--you know, like in the event of an emergency?!?

Casey obviously didn't think this one out too well. Did she think everyone would just forget about Caylee?!

commongrackle
08-17-2008, 09:14 AM
Again, thanks guys. You've answered some questions that had been bothering me. Of course, it all leads to more questions, more confusion, more...disbelief! at this whole crazy situation.

commongrackle
08-17-2008, 01:31 PM
Hey...back to the shovel for a moment. Didn't Casey claim that she borrowed the shovel to cut back some bamboo? Do we know if there was any bamboo cut back in the Anthony's yard?
CA first says she last saw Caylee on June 9th (we now know that she had been with Grandma on the 16th...Casey, you can't remember the actual last day you saw your daughter!? Ugh.)

Neighbor claims CA borrowed the shovel on the 17th

Why was CA so concerned about the "bamboo", after Caylee has been missing since the 9th!?


Oh...and, the ZG they questioned...what is her mother's name? Do we know?

kathyn2
08-17-2008, 01:33 PM
Actually Casey never claimed to do anything with the shovel that we have heard. It was Cindy that gave that explanation of what they did with a shovel but Cindy has no idea what Casey used the shovel for that day (unless it is on unreleased jail house tapes).

commongrackle
08-17-2008, 02:07 PM
Thank you for clearing that up, Kathyn2.

I was re-reading the arrest affidavit and something caught my eye. On page 4 of 6 of this document it says "She pointed to a second floor window and said that Zenaida had lived in that apartment in early 2006 to mid 2006 when she moved into another house owned by Zenaida's mother ------ (crossed out).

Further down that page Gloria is named as Zenaida's mother. Why is it crossed out at first?

Additionally...LE found that handwritten note with an address directly across the street from ZG supposed early 2006 to mid 2006 residence. Do we know anything about this residence?

This location for ZG's 2006 residence is supposedly a seniors only place? Can't find any listing for it, so far. Anyone know the name of this place?

christine2448
08-17-2008, 02:29 PM
Zenaida
VIDEO: Zenaida Interview (http://www.local6.com/news/17131363/detail.html#)
VIDEO: Zenaida Interview Part II (http://www.local6.com/news/17131363/detail.html#)
VIDEO: Zenaida Interview Part III (http://www.local6.com/news/17131363/detail.html#)
VIDEO: Zenaida Interview Part IV (http://www.local6.com/news/17131363/detail.html#)
VIDEO: Zenaida Interview Part V (http://www.local6.com/news/17131363/detail.html#)
VIDEO: Zenaida Located (http://www.local6.com/news/17131363/detail.html#)
VIDEO: Initial Zenaida Report (http://www.local6.com/news/17131363/detail.html#)
VIDEO: Detectives Called To Home (http://www.local6.com/news/17131363/detail.html#)

sweetwater
08-17-2008, 02:30 PM
Thank you for clearing that up, Kathyn2.

I was re-reading the arrest affidavit and something caught my eye. On page 4 of 6 of this document it says "She pointed to a second floor window and said that Zenaida had lived in that apartment in early 2006 to mid 2006 when she moved into another house owned by Zenaida's mother ------ (crossed out).

Further down that page Gloria is named as Zenaida's mother. Why is it crossed out at first?

Additionally...LE found that handwritten note with an address directly across the street from ZG supposed early 2006 to mid 2006 residence. Do we know anything about this residence?

This location for ZG's 2006 residence is supposedly a seniors only place? Can't find any listing for it, so far. Anyone know the name of this place?

It's where the G Grandfather resides. Name is listed, somewhere.

commongrackle
08-17-2008, 02:32 PM
It's where the G Grandfather resides. Name is listed, somewhere.

Which location...the supposed ZG residence or the address found by LE in the defendant's car? (Which are both very near each other).

Thanks!

sweetwater
08-17-2008, 02:38 PM
Which location...the supposed ZG residence or the address found by LE in the defendant's car? (Which are both very near each other).

Thanks!

Hi Grackle watcher-
I will go research and confirm this right now. I am so sleepy I need to go back and look at your original question- :confused: Duh.

commongrackle
08-17-2008, 02:43 PM
Thanks, Sweetwater! I've been doing Google searches with various search terms, nothing is coming up at the addresses for a senior living residence.

Anyone have any proof that 301 North Hillside Drive is actually a seniors only facility (words used in Arrest Affidavit (http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0717/16907762.pdf) page 4 of 6)?

I can not find a single listing for this supposed seniors only facility at this address(search terms: senior care center, assisted living, retirement home, retirement community, long term care facility, nursing home).

However, I did find

Oakwood Rehab and Healthcare at 301 Bay St. in Eustis, FL

and

Eustis Senior Center at 301 Ward Ave. in Eustis, FL

Which means nothing...but I just found it interesting that there are three similar types of facilities that all have a 301 address. (Well, two known and one unconfirmed by search results.)

Edited to Add: The handwritten address found in the defendant's car by LE is where Amy and Ricardo live, according to the Search Warrant (http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f08.07.08_SEAR CHWARRANT.pdf&tabid=547&mid=1935) on page 5 of 7.