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christine2448
08-20-2008, 01:11 PM
Please continue GENERAL discussions here.

Look around Caylee has a FORUM, (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=166) there are several threads started on specific topics to try and stay organized.


Links to previous and similar threads can be found toward the bottom of the page.


Newbies.....

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I am sad such a tragedy is bringing us all together.

I advise everyone to read the RULES of WS, Long (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66869)and Short Version (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66872).






Originally Posted by Windchime
Please keep in mind Caylee's forum is very busy and we will not tolerate members being rude to other members.

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christine2448
08-20-2008, 01:12 PM
Caylees Prayer Thread Click Here (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2527183#post2527183)

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:12 PM
Thanks Christine

Deputy Andy
08-20-2008, 01:13 PM
I would just like to go on the record here and say that I'm really tired of people complaining that Caylee is being ignored. For me it is a given that anyone with a heart has already been completely emotionally wrenched by this situation - the missing innocent child. But Caylee is no longer the focus to most people because it really seems that she is dead. Being an atheist I am not praying for anybody, but it's nice to hear that people are doing that. I have to echo what many others have said and say please surprise the heck out of me and let little Caylee show up alive. But what I know about the case as a layperson/onlooker is really preventing me from having much hope at all that this will occur. Hope I stated this properly and I sure don't mean to offend anyone. All I'm trying to say is Caylee is the victim - we know that - so let's move on and figure out the guilty one(s). If she's truly missing, this is what will help find her in the most expedient manner.

O.K. - big leap here, but I found it hilarious that BH LP didn't even know Casey's name the other night. First he called her a name I can't even remember and then "corrected" himself to "Stacey". Nice. This was either on NG or Greta, my head is spinning.

Thanks, Deputy Andy

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:13 PM
Originally Posted by Blink34
HUGE SIGH... I fear you are right, but holding out there is ample DNA evidence to arrest or indict, there is no way Baez wants to try this case.
I say that because I want her remains recovered, and that is the only way I see that happening; except save the fact when the finger pointing starts somewhere in that murky bog will be the truth eventually..

We all learned in the Lacy Peterson case that miracles do happen. Have a little faith that something is coming around the bend and this innocent child will not be a silent witness anymore. My hope is there. Caylee will be found and she will be screaming for justice.

*Carried over from the other thread.

krimekat
08-20-2008, 01:14 PM
christine2448 rocks!!!! :rocker:

Mendara
08-20-2008, 01:14 PM
This was brough from other threat from Athy:

one of the problems with this is she was already missing 31 days before LE even KNEW she was missing. and where do you want them to START looking?


My answer is anywhere and everywhere instead of nowhere.

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blink34 http://websleuths.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2527150#post2527150)
HUGE SIGH... I fear you are right, but holding out there is ample DNA evidence to arrest or indict, there is no way Baez wants to try this case.
I say that because I want her remains recovered, and that is the only way I see that happening; except save the fact when the finger pointing starts somewhere in that murky bog will be the truth eventually..

We all learned in the Lacy Peterson case that miracles do happen. Have a little faith that something is coming around the bend and this innocent child will not be a silent witness anymore. My hope is there. Caylee will be found and she will be screaming for justice.

Agreed, I do maintain hope, it drives me actually, I just feel I need to work on the fact that I may need to accept she may never be found.
As you know where I think she is, chances are not good.

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:15 PM
Dunnie present. Wow, what a ride. I'm going to go to the prayer thread when I gain some composure.

Thanks to the moderator here for such a smooth transition.

OldSarge
08-20-2008, 01:16 PM
Picture this.......

Casey is released after her hearing on Thursday, between 3 and 4 pm.

Goes home with her GPS ankle transmitter and her female escort.

Once she gets home.... the "secret" voice transmitter (in the bracelet) begins sending her every word to the eager monitors.

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:18 PM
We all learned in the Lacy Peterson case that miracles do happen. Have a little faith that something is coming around the bend and this innocent child will not be a silent witness anymore. My hope is there. Caylee will be found and she will be screaming for justice.

*Carried over from the other thread.
Hope springs eternal, I guess. I doubt she will ever be found. She's in the arms of the angels, walking in fields of gold.

LiveLoveLaughLiza
08-20-2008, 01:18 PM
Hello Everyone!

:)

I had finally gotten caught up with the many, many threads; rushing my son to get ready for drumline/bandcamp…..then run into an 11x18 piece of glass from a picture I was matting. Say “Oh S**t!” not because of the blood all over the house, not because of the blood all over the car, but because I know that going to get it stitched up will cause me to get behind on posts again. LOL

The cutie doctor sewed me up quickly, I rush home and am 25 pages behind again…..ugh!:mad:

::evoking sympathy incase these questions have been asked/answered::

1. Where is Caylee’s car seat? Why this bothers me, I don‘t know. If you have the intention to pick up your child @ 5 pm, like Casey has said, why would the make believe nanny have it?

2. After watching video of the bond hearing, how could Cindy not know that Casey didn’t have a job…..who provided health insurance on Caylee?

3. How could George remember to a “T” what Casey and Caylee were wearing on June 16th? How many men can remember what their daughter wore? I can’t even remember what I wore yesterday.

4. What does IIRC stand for?

Thank you in advance.

LLLL

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 01:19 PM
New theory in the bond hold up, the Padilla's are just customers to the guy in Tampa for it to be legit, therefore they have to pay him 50k and provide 450k in collateral. Very different than holding all the cards. Also his insurance company may not like the deal at all, since the family nor the bondee has any skin in the game.

TKS2003
08-20-2008, 01:19 PM
Picture this.......

Casey is released after her hearing on Thursday, between 3 and 4 pm.

Goes home with her GPS ankle transmitter and her female escort.

Once she gets home.... the "secret" voice transmitter (in the bracelet) begins sending her every word to the eager monitors.


I like to think that LE will be listening if Casey is ever released, BUT, surely her attorney has advised her this is a possibility? Will the Anthony family be reduced to writing notes to each other? I just dont see her talking, even if she is released. Silence has been her friend so far, why talk now?

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:20 PM
((((Blink))))) It is hard to think positive when the negative is the answer, isn't it? I just have to keep telling myself that Caylee is going to surface...in spite of the worst case scenario.

athy
08-20-2008, 01:20 PM
how would the amber alert have read? for those that ask why no amber alert.


Caylee Anthony 3 year old missing (description given)
left with one ZG (no description given)
possibly has a ford focus (no description nor license number)
left at an apt that was empty since february
last seen june 9th, no wait make that june 15th, no make that june 16th...oh who knows when sometime before now. (if this was done the day the 911 call was made)

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:21 PM
New theory in the bond hold up, the Padilla's are just customers to the guy in Tampa for it to be legit, therefore they have to pay him 50k and provide 450k in collateral. Very different than holding all the cards. Also his insurance company may not like the deal at all, since the family nor the bondee has any skin in the game.

EXACTLY.. again all things they all already knew going in- LP has 30 years in the biz... I truly think the PadillaPack got duped here..

Mendara
08-20-2008, 01:22 PM
Hello Everyone!

:)

I had finally gotten caught up with the many, many threads; rushing my son to get ready for drumline/bandcamp…..then run into an 11x18 piece of glass from a picture I was matting. Say “Oh S**t!” not because of the blood all over the house, not because of the blood all over the car, but because I know that going to get it stitched up will cause me to get behind on posts again. LOL

The cutie doctor sewed me up quickly, I rush home and am 25 pages behind again…..ugh!:mad:

::evoking sympathy incase these questions have been asked/answered::

1. Where is Caylee’s car seat? Why this bothers me, I don‘t know. If you have the intention to pick up your child @ 5 pm, like Casey has said, why would the make believe nanny have it?

2. After watching video of the bond hearing, how could Cindy not know that Casey didn’t have a job…..who provided health insurance on Caylee?

3. How could George remember to a “T” what Casey and Caylee were wearing on June 16th? How many men can remember what their daughter wore? I can’t even remember what I wore yesterday.

4. What does IIRC stand for?

Thank you in advance.

LLLL


WELCOME! YOu bring up so valid points!

Bree0372
08-20-2008, 01:22 PM
Wonder if that means "less than 100%" of the forensics are back... dang I wish I was on the "inside"!

Dang it - I lost my post cause the thread closed! Here we go again:

I think that LE have the preliminary tests back and they know what kind of case they are looking at - for now it's a missing child case. However, they said that the prelims aren't admissable in court so they can't bank on using this as evidence to move forward with additional charges. Until the actual forensics tests are received, I don't think we'll see additional charges. JMHO

I hope and pray that LE has more information than what some think they do (not pointing fingers at anyone in particular). I think they are gathering the needed evidence and are playing this close to their vest - as they should - so as to not have any holes to fill in later. The last thing a Prosecutor wants to do is lose this case (if there ever is one) because of sloppy investigating.

I would love to be on the inside of this too. The suspense is killing me. My husband tells me that I'm nosey, but I tell him I'm just very curious. :crazy:

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:22 PM
Hello Everyone!

:)

I had finally gotten caught up with the many, many threads; rushing my son to get ready for drumline/bandcamp…..then run into an 11x18 piece of glass from a picture I was matting. Say “Oh S**t!” not because of the blood all over the house, not because of the blood all over the car, but because I know that going to get it stitched up will cause me to get behind on posts again. LOL

The cutie doctor sewed me up quickly, I rush home and am 25 pages behind again…..ugh!:mad:

::evoking sympathy incase these questions have been asked/answered::

1. Where is Caylee’s car seat? Why this bothers me, I don‘t know. If you have the intention to pick up your child @ 5 pm, like Casey has said, why would the make believe nanny have it?

2. After watching video of the bond hearing, how could Cindy not know that Casey didn’t have a job…..who provided health insurance on Caylee?

3. How could George remember to a “T” what Casey and Caylee were wearing on June 16th? How many men can remember what their daughter wore? I can’t even remember what I wore yesterday.

4. What does IIRC stand for?

Thank you in advance.

LLLLGeez, slow down. IIRC stands for If I remember Correctly.

The rest puzzles me as much as you. Casey was getting money from somewhere. I still think she was a hooker.

summermood32
08-20-2008, 01:22 PM
Regardless of this outcome hope casy understands that she will never ever be able to be with caylee at all, even if she is still alive! She is regardless what anyone says she is a unfit parent with mental issues and now poor caylee if still alive will have issues as well very sad for both out comes!

LaWanda
08-20-2008, 01:22 PM
how would the amber alert have read? for those that ask why no amber alert.


Caylee Anthony 3 year old missing (description given)
left with one ZG (no description given)
possibly has a ford focus (no description nor license number)
left at an apt that was empty since february
last seen june 9th, no what make that june 15th, no make that june 16th...oh who knows when sometime before now. (if this was done the day the 911 call was made)


Love it!!! :crazy: That's pretty much all they had to go on.

OldSarge
08-20-2008, 01:22 PM
how would the amber alert have read? for those that ask why no amber alert.


Caylee Anthony 3 year old missing (description given)
left with one ZG (no description given)
possibly has a ford focus (no description nor license number)
left at an apt that was empty since february
last seen june 9th, no what make that june 15th, no make that june 16th...oh who knows when sometime before now. (if this was done the day the 911 call was made)

The very first thing that LE must establish is the last KNOWN location.

They attempted to do that with Casey and got nowhere!

amethyst221
08-20-2008, 01:22 PM
About the Amber alert, I was a little surprised when someone posted the actual requirements the other day. I totally agree that it's intended to be an urgent call to action, to try to retrieve a child in those first few critical hours. It's also pretty specific, as to the required level of evidence that a kidnapping has occurred, need for a license plate/car description to disseminate, etc. This 30 day old, nebulous case didn't quite fit. BUT the known information available, such as pictures and descriptions of the missing child, has been equally widely made known, maybe even more widely. It seems LE did the functional equivalent with what they had to work with.

Chezhire
08-20-2008, 01:22 PM
Blackjack inconsistencies again...
for those who have been discussing the cell phone inconsistencies...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Seems to me that Lee’s trying to ask her why she would still have the one and only SIM card she claimed to have been using in both of her cell phones, since she lost the Blackjack while she was using it…but Casey’s answer, as usual, isn’t responsive…

"Lee: …Casey, if you, if you had your Blackjack with you and you lost your Blackjack, but you still have your SIM card in your other phone, is that, I, I’m just trying just to figure out why you would have the, why you wouldn’t lose both, if you know what I mean?

Casey: well, that’s just the thing, if it fell out of my bag, if it fell out of my pocket…"

listen for yourself - it's in the Full Casey & Lee audio file link in this newsarticle - the relevant discussion is in the second half of the audio file, so feel free to move the cursor along if you don't want to listen to the first half of it <again>...

thoughts? does it even matter at this point???

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-c...,3318931.story

marmar
08-20-2008, 01:23 PM
Picture this.......

Casey is released after her hearing on Thursday, between 3 and 4 pm.

Goes home with her GPS ankle transmitter and her female escort.

Once she gets home.... the "secret" voice transmitter (in the bracelet) begins sending her every word to the eager monitors.

Oh Sarge, that would be priceless. But would it be legal? I wish!

I personally don't think if she spills in that house, that anyone there is going to go running to the LE with the details. If I had to bet, I would say maybe Lee might be the most likely. I doubt Mom or Dad would, but only because of the way they have conducted themselves in the past few weeks.

I had much more sympathy for them in the beginning, after the 911 call, and would have given them credit for wanting to solve the case. That is, until they opened their mouths to the media.

Poor Caylee never had a chance with this family.

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:24 PM
Chez~ It didn't even matter at THAT point! LE has all the records of any and all calls.

summermood32
08-20-2008, 01:24 PM
Geez, slow down. IIRC stands for If I remember Correctly.

The rest puzzles me as much as you. Casey was getting money from somewhere. I still think she was a hooker.

Call Girl:woohoo:

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:24 PM
((((Blink))))) It is hard to think positive when the negative is the answer, isn't it? I just have to keep telling myself that Caylee is going to surface...in spite of the worst case scenario.

I try to remind people of that as well as myself when working on these cases.. There is no payoff here, putting a freak in the slammer is not a jubilent event to offset finding a baby's remains. It's all horrifying.

I am just hopeful that everyone that is so enthralled with Caylee's case will take the time at the end of the road to take stock in the lessons that were learned from it.

LI_Mom
08-20-2008, 01:24 PM
I would just like to go on the record here and say that I'm really tired of people complaining that Caylee is being ignored.

I just want to say that I think in most cases, people throw that phrase out mostly as a sarcastic response to Cindy's own ranting about how the media only concentrates on Casey.... while SHE concentrated her efforts on defending Casey's crazy lies to the media.

Katie526
08-20-2008, 01:24 PM
:grouphug: Shared this on the prayer board and wanted to post this for all of you wonderful parents out there. My family has Caylee in our prayers and we wish for her safe return. Every child is so precious.

To My Child

Just for this morning, I am going to smile when I see your face and laugh when I feel like crying.

Just for this morning, I will let you choose what you want to wear, and smile and say how perfect it is.

Just for this morning, I am going to step over the laundry, and pick you up and take you to the park to play.

Just for this morning, I will leave the dishes in the sink, and let you teach me how to put that puzzle of yours together.

Just for this afternoon, I will unplug the telephone and keep the computer off, and sit with you in the backyard and blow bubbles..

Just for this afternoon, I will not yell once, not even a tiny grumble when you scream and whine for the ice cream truck, and I will buy you one if he comes by.
Just for this afternoon, I won't worry about what you are going to be when you grow up, or second guess every decision I have made where you are concerned.

Just for this afternoon, I will let you help me bake cookies, and I won't stand over you trying to fix them.
Just for this afternoon, I will take us to McDonald's and buy us both a Happy Meal so you can have both toys.

Just for this evening, I will hold you in my arms and tell you a story about how you were born and how much I love you.

Just for this evening, I will let you splash in the tub and not get angry.

Just for this evening, I will let you stay up late while we sit on the porch and count all the stars.

Just for this evening, I will snuggle beside you for hours, and miss my favorite TV shows.

Just for this evening when I run my finger through your hair as you pray, I will simply be grateful that God has given me the greatest gift ever given.
I will think about the mothers and fathers who are searching for their missing children, the mothers and fathers who are visiting their children's graves instead of their bedrooms, and mothers and fathers who are in hospital rooms watching their children suffer senselessly, and screaming inside that they can't handle it anymore.

And when I kiss you good night I will hold you a little tighter, a little longer. It is then, that I will thank God for you, and ask him for nothing, except one more day..............

miss lisa
08-20-2008, 01:25 PM
Back tracking to the lead detective's visit yesterday evening... they arrived at approx. 7:20 and stayed for approx. 45 minutes. Once the visit was over they returned their car and seemed to be pleased (smiling) with their visit. Now could they have been delivering information concerning the DNA/Decomp in the car or a possible connection with the last articles found in the woods? The lead detective wouldn't just stop by to check the phone line and go over what would happen once Casey was released. He would send someone else. What caused the visit?

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:25 PM
Regardless of this outcome hope casy understands that she will never ever be able to be with caylee at all, even if she is still alive! She is regardless what anyone says she is a unfit parent with mental issues and now poor caylee if still alive will have issues as well very sad for both out comes!
Interesting comment. Should the grand parents have custody of Caylee IF she's ever found. I hope I hear a big resounding NO!

Ginny
08-20-2008, 01:25 PM
how would the amber alert have read? for those that ask why no amber alert.


Caylee Anthony 3 year old missing (description given)
left with one ZG (no description given)
possibly has a ford focus (no description nor license number)
left at an apt that was empty since february
last seen june 9th, no wait make that june 15th, no make that june 16th...oh who knows when sometime before now. (if this was done the day the 911 call was made)



AND 31 days later, she could literally be anywhere in the world!

gibby207
08-20-2008, 01:25 PM
Dang it - I lost my post cause the thread closed! Here we go again:

I think that LE have the preliminary tests back and they know what kind of case they are looking at - for now it's a missing child case. However, they said that the prelims aren't admissable in court so they can't bank on using this as evidence to move forward with additional charges. Until the actual forensics tests are received, I don't think we'll see additional charges. JMHO

I hope and pray that LE has more information than what some think they do. I think they are gathering the needed evidence and are playing this close to their vest - as they should - so as to not have any holes to fill in later. The last thing a Prosecutor wants to do is lose this case (if there ever is one) because of sloppy investigating.

I would love to be on the inside of this too. The suspense is killing me. My husband tells me that I'm nosey, but I tell him I'm just very curious. :crazy:

Okay, I have a dumb question.... What is the major difference between preliminary test and the actual forensics? Is it the difference between JV and varsity so to speak? Prelim tests aren't admissable in court because the testing isn't quite done yet? :waitasec:

tehcloser
08-20-2008, 01:26 PM
So there is going to be a female watching Casey, if and when she is released, wonder how well she will cope with Cindy and Casey trying to bully her?

manatee
08-20-2008, 01:26 PM
Call Girl:woohoo:

don't think so. In this town, she would have been living the good life in a nice condo somewhere. Most definetely not a call girl nor a stripper.

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 01:26 PM
This was brough from other threat from Athy:

one of the problems with this is she was already missing 31 days before LE even KNEW she was missing. and where do you want them to START looking?


My answer is anywhere and everywhere instead of nowhere.

The group of volunteers here took a few key spots and searched. Why isn't this being done by LE? The only answer I can come up with is because they know something we don't and so that's why they aren't searching. But then it begs the question, IMO, that why did they come and even bother gathering the evidence that the volunteer searchers (who are absolute ANGELS and we can not thank them enough, btw!) found if they already have the 'answers'?

summermood32
08-20-2008, 01:26 PM
How does the BM no that casey didnt have a drug prolem? If that is tru where did all the money GO!

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 01:26 PM
Snip
1. Where is Caylee’s car seat? Why this bothers me, I don‘t know. If you have the intention to pick up your child @ 5 pm, like Casey has said, why would the make believe nanny have it?
2. After watching video of the bond hearing, how could Cindy not know that Casey didn’t have a job…..who provided health insurance on Caylee?
3. How could George remember to a “T” what Casey and Caylee were wearing on June 16th? How many men can remember what their daughter wore? I can’t even remember what I wore yesterday.
4. What does IIRC stand for?


1. Caylee's carseat was in the Pontiac, stated by Jose Padilla, Information officer OCSO.
2. Not many people have figured out how Cindy could not know Casey's job status.
3. George has remembered the same outfits for 3 dates that I can count.
4 If I recall Correctly.

gibby207
08-20-2008, 01:26 PM
Oh Sarge, that would be priceless. But would it be legal? I wish!

I personally don't think if she spills in that house, that anyone there is going to go running to the LE with the details. If I had to bet, I would say maybe Lee might be the most likely. I doubt Mom or Dad would, but only because of the way they have conducted themselves in the past few weeks.

I had much more sympathy for them in the beginning, after the 911 call, and would have given them credit for wanting to solve the case. That is, until they opened their mouths to the media.

Poor Caylee never had a chance with this family.

:crazy: They will probabaly let out clues while playing Scattegories!***

FLbeachdawg
08-20-2008, 01:26 PM
Hello Everyone!

:)

I had finally gotten caught up with the many, many threads; rushing my son to get ready for drumline/bandcamp…..then run into an 11x18 piece of glass from a picture I was matting. Say “Oh S**t!” not because of the blood all over the house, not because of the blood all over the car, but because I know that going to get it stitched up will cause me to get behind on posts again. LOL

The cutie doctor sewed me up quickly, I rush home and am 25 pages behind again…..ugh!:mad:

::evoking sympathy incase these questions have been asked/answered::

1. Where is Caylee’s car seat? Why this bothers me, I don‘t know. If you have the intention to pick up your child @ 5 pm, like Casey has said, why would the make believe nanny have it?

On Nancy Grace the other night, it was said that the car seat has NOT been found and is STILL a big mystery.

2. After watching video of the bond hearing, how could Cindy not know that Casey didn’t have a job…..who provided health insurance on Caylee?
She could have lied and said she didn't get insurance through Universal.

You have to be considered a "full time" employee of Universal to get the benefits. She could have told them she was hired as a Seasonal Employee, Part-time or Contract....just a thought.

3. How could George remember to a “T” what Casey and Caylee were wearing on June 16th? How many men can remember what their daughter wore? I can’t even remember what I wore yesterday.

I find this strange too....and also that he just suddenly decides to share this info WEEKS after she's been missing and had previously stated the last day Caylee was seen was on the 15th.

4. What does IIRC stand for?

"If I Remember Correctly"

Thank you in advance.

LLLL



Welcome to WS and sorry about running into the glass...OUCH!

My answers are in BOLD =)

TKS2003
08-20-2008, 01:27 PM
Interesting comment. Should the grand parents have custody of Caylee IF she's ever found. I hope I hear a big resounding NO!


NO

resounding no

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 01:27 PM
How does the BM no that casey didnt have a drug prolem? If that is tru where did all the money GO!

Someone told him she only drinks and smokes pot, but george says they all just call her mom cause she is so innocent.

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:27 PM
Back tracking to the lead detective's visit yesterday evening... they arrived at approx. 7:20 and stayed for approx. 45 minutes. Once the visit was over they returned their car and seemed to be pleased (smiling) with their visit. Now could they have been delivery information concerning the DNA/Decomp in the car or a possible connection with the last articles found in the woods? The lead detective would just stop by to check the phone line and go over what would happen once Casey was released. He would send someone else. What caused the visit?

Good question and we have been pondering same... But I do not believe they will give the Anthony's information about physical evidence prior to an indictment or charges related to it.. No way..

liltigress
08-20-2008, 01:27 PM
Sweetwater! Good morning! Even though it's afternoon here, still feels like morning, so I know how you feel. lol.. The night shift isn't all it's cracked up to be when there is promise of big news the following A.M.

I can't recall exactly about the discussion following the 911 calls being released. But I do remember thinking.. Dear God what did she do to that precious baby?!?

If I can find the thread when it first hit the fan, I'll gladly pass it along to ya. There is tons of reading on the case.

Casey went into defense mode immediately and started the babysitter/nanny conspiracy. There was plenty of speculation through all the threads about that, including who in their right mind would think to go on myspace when their child was missing and the car smelled like death.

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:28 PM
:grouphug: Shared this on the prayer board and wanted to post this for all of you wonderful parents out there. My family has Caylee in our prayers and we wish for her safe return. Every child is so precious.

To My Child

Just for this morning, I am going to smile when I see your face and laugh when I feel like crying.

Just for this morning, I will let you choose what you want to wear, and smile and say how perfect it is.

Just for this morning, I am going to step over the laundry, and pick you up and take you to the park to play.

Just for this morning, I will leave the dishes in the sink, and let you teach me how to put that puzzle of yours together.

Just for this afternoon, I will unplug the telephone and keep the computer off, and sit with you in the backyard and blow bubbles..

Just for this afternoon, I will not yell once, not even a tiny grumble when you scream and whine for the ice cream truck, and I will buy you one if he comes by.
Just for this afternoon, I won't worry about what you are going to be when you grow up, or second guess every decision I have made where you are concerned.

Just for this afternoon, I will let you help me bake cookies, and I won't stand over you trying to fix them.
Just for this afternoon, I will take us to McDonald's and buy us both a Happy Meal so you can have both toys.

Just for this evening, I will hold you in my arms and tell you a story about how you were born and how much I love you.

Just for this evening, I will let you splash in the tub and not get angry.

Just for this evening, I will let you stay up late while we sit on the porch and count all the stars.

Just for this evening, I will snuggle beside you for hours, and miss my favorite TV shows.

Just for this evening when I run my finger through your hair as you pray, I will simply be grateful that God has given me the greatest gift ever given.
I will think about the mothers and fathers who are searching for their missing children, the mothers and fathers who are visiting their children's graves instead of their bedrooms, and mothers and fathers who are in hospital rooms watching their children suffer senselessly, and screaming inside that they can't handle it anymore.

And when I kiss you good night I will hold you a little tighter, a little longer. It is then, that I will thank God for you, and ask him for nothing, except one more day..............
Don't do this to me. Thank you for posting it, but I simply can't read it.

My sweetheart grand daughter is coming soon to spend the night with us tonight (she turned 3 on Saturday). What that family is going through I can't even comprehend. JMO.

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 01:28 PM
Hello Everyone!

:)

I had finally gotten caught up with the many, many threads; rushing my son to get ready for drumline/bandcamp…..then run into an 11x18 piece of glass from a picture I was matting. Say “Oh S**t!” not because of the blood all over the house, not because of the blood all over the car, but because I know that going to get it stitched up will cause me to get behind on posts again. LOL

The cutie doctor sewed me up quickly, I rush home and am 25 pages behind again…..ugh!:mad:

::evoking sympathy incase these questions have been asked/answered::

1. Where is Caylee’s car seat? Why this bothers me, I don‘t know. If you have the intention to pick up your child @ 5 pm, like Casey has said, why would the make believe nanny have it?

2. After watching video of the bond hearing, how could Cindy not know that Casey didn’t have a job…..who provided health insurance on Caylee?

3. How could George remember to a “T” what Casey and Caylee were wearing on June 16th? How many men can remember what their daughter wore? I can’t even remember what I wore yesterday.

4. What does IIRC stand for?

Thank you in advance.

LLLL

Welcome and hope you are doing better now! There was a car seat found in the Pontiac. If they are searching for a car seat, it may be a secondary one but there was one found in the car.

Mendara
08-20-2008, 01:28 PM
how would the amber alert have read? for those that ask why no amber alert.


Caylee Anthony 3 year old missing (description given)
left with one ZG (no description given)
possibly has a ford focus (no description nor license number)
left at an apt that was empty since february
last seen june 9th, no wait make that june 15th, no make that june 16th...oh who knows when sometime before now. (if this was done the day the 911 call was made)

The system leaves out too many children. What about the child who was out riding their bike and got taken? Or those who are kidnapped from their bedrooms? What about them? There is no system for them.

SuziQ
08-20-2008, 01:29 PM
Hello Everyone!

::evoking sympathy incase these questions have been asked/answered::

1. Where is Caylee’s car seat? Why this bothers me, I don‘t know. If you have the intention to pick up your child @ 5 pm, like Casey has said, why would the make believe nanny have it?

The carseat was in the car and sent to a CSI lab.

2. After watching video of the bond hearing, how could Cindy not know that Casey didn’t have a job…..who provided health insurance on Caylee?

Not all jobs, especially a contract one, would offer insurance.

3. How could George remember to a “T” what Casey and Caylee were wearing on June 16th? How many men can remember what their daughter wore? I can’t even remember what I wore yesterday.

I'm still up in the air on that one.

4. What does IIRC stand for?

I see someone else already answered that. lol.

Thank you in advance.

LLLL

Welcome to WS! My answers are in bold.

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 01:29 PM
Ive asked if they drug test upon booking in California REPEATEDLY and it seems like noone knows for sure?

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 01:29 PM
Back tracking to the lead detective's visit yesterday evening... they arrived at approx. 7:20 and stayed for approx. 45 minutes. Once the visit was over they returned their car and seemed to be pleased (smiling) with their visit. Now could they have been delivery information concerning the DNA/Decomp in the car or a possible connection with the last articles found in the woods? The lead detective would just stop by to check the phone line and go over what would happen once Casey was released. He would send someone else. What caused the visit?

It was reported at 7:20pm on Fox they were there a bit earlier in the day. They ran tape of it in that segment.

sweetwater
08-20-2008, 01:29 PM
Interesting comment. Should the grand parents have custody of Caylee IF she's ever found. I hope I hear a big resounding NO!

Hell, no!

Katie526
08-20-2008, 01:29 PM
Don't do this to me. Thank you for posting it, but I simply can't read it.

My sweetheart grand daughter is coming soon to spend the night with us tonight (she turned 3 on Saturday). What that family is going through I can't even comprehend. JMO.

So sorry; I didn't mean to upset you. You are proabably the best grandma and already do these things. :blowkiss:

SuziQ
08-20-2008, 01:30 PM
A friendly reminder for everyone to please snip down posts whenever possible to save bandwidth and keep the thread cleaner. Thanks!

athy
08-20-2008, 01:30 PM
Interesting comment. Should the grand parents have custody of Caylee IF she's ever found. I hope I hear a big resounding NO!

even if the grandparents got custody. not sure about in FL but i know in NJ. it would be with the agreement that Casey had to live somewhere else at the least be constantly under supervision if Caylee is around. if the gparents didn't agree with that or hold to it they would/could lose custody also.

Chezhire
08-20-2008, 01:30 PM
Chez~ It didn't even matter at THAT point! LE has all the records of any and all calls.

You've been able (I think) to follow and participate in most, if not all, of the threads, so maybe you know this question: has it been hashed/rehased already whether or not LE has BOTH of the cell phones Casey claims to have been using? I haven't seen anything to indicate to us one way or the other whether or not this missing Blackjack was found...

I only ask because Lee's questions to his sister about why she would have been using the Blackjack when she lost it, but not have lost the only SIM card she had, indicate to me that Casey was not using the same SIM card, that each of her phones had different SIM cards, and that, therefore, DESPITE Casey telling Lee in that very same phone call that the same phone number was used in each of her cell phones b/c she simply switched the SIM card back & forth, Casey had another cell number & SIM card for that missing phone... so how tough would it be to track down phone records for someone without the phone or the number? are there that many providers in the area, and, have there been any other Subpoenas/S Deuces Tecum to OTHER phone prividers filed into the record? :waitasec:

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:30 PM
I am just hopeful that everyone that is so enthralled with Caylee's case will take the time at the end of the road to take stock in the lessons that were learned from it.I agree.

The first lesson we can take away from all this: If you know someone has a child and you do not see that child after a reasonable amount of time (24hours)...start asking the hard questions and alert someone.

summermood32
08-20-2008, 01:31 PM
Interesting comment. Should the grand parents have custody of Caylee IF she's ever found. I hope I hear a big resounding NO!

Well when she spends time behind bars? Who will it be? Lets see she gets 6 out in 3 for good behavior! UMM, I Dunno!!! Just something to think about!

robotdog
08-20-2008, 01:31 PM
Back tracking to the lead detective's visit yesterday evening... they arrived at approx. 7:20 and stayed for approx. 45 minutes. Once the visit was over they returned their car and seemed to be pleased (smiling) with their visit. Now could they have been delivery information concerning the DNA/Decomp in the car or a possible connection with the last articles found in the woods? The lead detective would just stop by to check the phone line and go over what would happen once Casey was released. He would send someone else. What caused the visit?

hmmmmm 45 minutes

i think the visit was because the grandparents wanted to talk to THEM

its been awhile since the GP have been in the news, maybe they have had a chance to think things over and REALITY is setting in..

miss lisa
08-20-2008, 01:31 PM
Good question and we have been pondering same... But I do not believe they will give the Anthony's information about physical evidence prior to an indictment or charges related to it.. No way..

Would they inform them if there was a connection to the new articles?

Bree0372
08-20-2008, 01:31 PM
Okay, I have a dumb question.... What is the major difference between preliminary test and the actual forensics? Is it the difference between JV and varsity so to speak? Prelim tests aren't admissable in court because the testing isn't quite done yet? :waitasec:

I don't think it's a dumb question at all. I would assume (and we all know that's not usually a good thing) that it's sort of like a doctor telling you I think you have bronchitis but I have to wait on the rest of the tests to be sure. I really don't know...I'm just guessing.

It looks to me like they may have information that shows that there is DNA in the car of Caylee (just an example) but they need to wait for the complete test results. Off to google this....

LiveLoveLaughLiza
08-20-2008, 01:33 PM
Welcome to WS and sorry about running into the glass...OUCH!

My answers are in BOLD =)

Thank you to you and the others for the answers and thank you for the welcome.

Yea....ouch

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:33 PM
1. Caylee's carseat was in the Pontiac, stated by Jose Padilla, Information officer OCSO.
2. Not many people have figured out how Cindy could not know Casey's job status.
3. George has remembered the same outfits for 3 dates that I can count.
4 If I recall Correctly.
Caylee's carseat was not in the pontiac, IIRC.

LOL. If you look at the picture of the car when it is going through DNA testing, the carseat is not there. However, maybe LE or someone took the carseat out.

Where is the damm carseat! JMO.

Prosecution is holding evidence very close to their vest. Wonder if we can get a direct link to the prosecutor's office. Do we know who he/she is? JMO.

miss lisa
08-20-2008, 01:33 PM
It was reported at 7:20pm on Fox they were there a bit earlier in the day. They ran tape of it in that segment.

What do you suppose the visit was for that brought the lead detective out?

Mendara
08-20-2008, 01:33 PM
The group of volunteers here took a few key spots and searched. Why isn't this being done by LE? The only answer I can come up with is because they know something we don't and so that's why they aren't searching. But then it begs the question, IMO, that why did they come and even bother gathering the evidence that the volunteer searchers (who are absolute ANGELS and we can not thank them enough, btw!) found if they already have the 'answers'?

Even if they knew she was dead wouldn't they be searching for her body? Unless they know she is alive? I just don't understand why they are not searching potential drop areas.

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:33 PM
You've been able (I think) to follow and participate in most, if not all, of the threads, so maybe you know this question: has it been hashed/rehased already whether or not LE has BOTH of the cell phones Casey claims to have been using? She would have called TonE and they have HIS phone so would be able to track that number. Trust me, it is still a non-issue about the blackjack and the SIM cards.

NighTillDawn
08-20-2008, 01:34 PM
A friendly reminder for everyone to please snip down posts whenever possible to save bandwidth and keep the thread cleaner. Thanks!

Suzi, does that mean keep the posts shorter? Or don't post anything that isn't necessary? Thanks.

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:34 PM
Would they inform them if there was a connection to the new articles?

They would not inform them of any evidentiary developments, imo-
BTW, where's the tape for this? Serious has a crush on Melich..

gibby207
08-20-2008, 01:34 PM
I don't think it's a dumb question at all. I would assume (and we all know that's not usually a good thing) that it's sort of like a doctor telling you I think you have bronchitis but I have to wait on the rest of the tests to be sure. I really don't know...I'm just guessing.

It looks to me like they may have information that shows that there is DNA in the car of Caylee (just an example) but they need to wait for the complete test results. Off to google this....

I guess you and I are on the same page but I don't understand why they wouldn't be admissable in court, ya know? I was hoping that some legal whizzes here could help me with that.

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 01:34 PM
Caylee's carseat was not in the pontiac, IIRC.

LOL. If you look at the picture of the car when it is going through DNA testing, the carseat is not there. However, maybe LE or someone took the carseat out.

Where is the damm carseat! JMO.

Prosecution is holding evidence very close to their vest. Wonder if we can get a direct link to the prosecutor's office. Do we know who he/she is? JMO.

I get it you don't like the information guy Jose Padilla, and you don't like the media. It was said in multiple articles with investigators and Padilla being the source.

Eponine
08-20-2008, 01:34 PM
:grouphug: Shared this on the prayer board and wanted to post this for all of you wonderful parents out there. My family has Caylee in our prayers and we wish for her safe return. Every child is so precious.

To My Child

Just for this morning, I am going to smile when I see your face and laugh when I feel like crying.

Just for this morning, I will let you choose what you want to wear, and smile and say how perfect it is.

Just for this morning, I am going to step over the laundry, and pick you up and take you to the park to play.

Just for this morning, I will leave the dishes in the sink, and let you teach me how to put that puzzle of yours together.

Just for this afternoon, I will unplug the telephone and keep the computer off, and sit with you in the backyard and blow bubbles..

Just for this afternoon, I will not yell once, not even a tiny grumble when you scream and whine for the ice cream truck, and I will buy you one if he comes by.
Just for this afternoon, I won't worry about what you are going to be when you grow up, or second guess every decision I have made where you are concerned.

Just for this afternoon, I will let you help me bake cookies, and I won't stand over you trying to fix them.
Just for this afternoon, I will take us to McDonald's and buy us both a Happy Meal so you can have both toys.

Just for this evening, I will hold you in my arms and tell you a story about how you were born and how much I love you.

Just for this evening, I will let you splash in the tub and not get angry.

Just for this evening, I will let you stay up late while we sit on the porch and count all the stars.

Just for this evening, I will snuggle beside you for hours, and miss my favorite TV shows.

Just for this evening when I run my finger through your hair as you pray, I will simply be grateful that God has given me the greatest gift ever given.
I will think about the mothers and fathers who are searching for their missing children, the mothers and fathers who are visiting their children's graves instead of their bedrooms, and mothers and fathers who are in hospital rooms watching their children suffer senselessly, and screaming inside that they can't handle it anymore.

And when I kiss you good night I will hold you a little tighter, a little longer. It is then, that I will thank God for you, and ask him for nothing, except one more day..............

As a mom of a 4 year old little girl and 6 year old little boy, thank you--that was beautiful.

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:34 PM
Thank you to you and the others for the answers and thank you for the welcome.

Yea....ouch
Hope the stitches aren't on your hand so you can still type.

Just kidding. Take good care of the wound.

For newbies... if you see J/K.... it means just kidding.

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 01:34 PM
Caylee's carseat was not in the pontiac, IIRC.

LOL. If you look at the picture of the car when it is going through DNA testing, the carseat is not there. However, maybe LE or someone took the carseat out.

Where is the damm carseat! JMO.

Prosecution is holding evidence very close to their vest. Wonder if we can get a direct link to the prosecutor's office. Do we know who he/she is? JMO.


I could have sworn that we had concluded that the car seat was found in the car. It was stated by LE. Am I losing it here?

miss lisa
08-20-2008, 01:35 PM
hmmmmm 45 minutes

i think the visit was because the grandparents wanted to talk to THEM

its been awhile since the GP have been in the news, maybe they have had a chance to think things over and REALITY is setting in..

The last time the lead detective was there was at Cindy's request IIRC.

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 01:35 PM
What do you suppose the visit was for that brought the lead detective out?

Wouldn't even risk a guess at this point.

sweetwater
08-20-2008, 01:36 PM
Someone told him she only drinks and smokes pot, but george says they all just call her mom cause she is so innocent.

So innocent. Mom.
A perfect front person, "promoter" for a sleazy phone/internet operation.

LI_Mom
08-20-2008, 01:36 PM
Okay, I have a dumb question.... What is the major difference between preliminary test and the actual forensics? Is it the difference between JV and varsity so to speak? Prelim tests aren't admissable in court because the testing isn't quite done yet? :waitasec:

I'm thinking that LE would do rush tests to get quick answers such as blood type or fluid type (for example) BUT would also need very detailed info regarding all samples.

They'd also want to send the samples to a reputable crime lab so they know the results will hold up in court & that probably means they have to wait their turn as there are SO many cases that need to be processed.

Inn this case, we might even have Orlando AND the Feds running separate tests.... I can't imagine the Feds can be happy that this little b1tch is lying to their agents. lol

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 01:36 PM
I have another question. Yesterday, I was going through the phone calls and was wondering, didn't she talk to Tony either via the video phones or phone call to Tony? Did she call Tony after her phone call home that one day when she talked to Cindy, Kristina and Lee? If so, was it released?

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:37 PM
Ive asked if they drug test upon booking in California REPEATEDLY and it seems like noone knows for sure?

This case is in Florida

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:37 PM
They would not inform them of any evidentiary developments, imo-
BTW, where's the tape for this? Serious has a crush on Melich..LOL YES! I DO! Where is that tape?! I want to check for that brand...er...ring on his finger now. hehehe Move over, Mark Furhman...you have been replaced.

krimekat
08-20-2008, 01:37 PM
Bumping to remind us that there are other threads out there . . .


Please continue GENERAL discussions here.

Look around Caylee has a FORUM, (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=166) there are several threads started on specific topics to try and stay organized.

Links to previous and similar threads can be found toward the bottom of the page.

Newbies.....

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/websleuths.jpg

I am sad such a tragedy is bringing us all together.

I advise everyone to read the RULES of WS, Long (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66869)and Short Version (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66872).

Chezhire
08-20-2008, 01:38 PM
She would have called TonE and they have HIS phone so would be able to track that number. Trust me, it is still a non-issue about the blackjack and the SIM cards.

Where has it been stated that LE has TonE's phone / phone records? Certainly seems logical that he would volunteer these to LE, but I hadn't seen that anywhere in the news or press releases or afifdavits...

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 01:38 PM
Sorry Blink - I meant Florida --- trying to deal with a sick infant and bored 9 year old......

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 01:38 PM
LOL YES! I DO! Where is that tape?! I want to check for that brand...er...ring on his finger now. hehehe Move over, Mark Furhman...you have been replaced.

Do you have the bond hearing looped in your media player? :)

gibby207
08-20-2008, 01:38 PM
I'm thinking that LE would do rush tests to get quick answers such as blood type or fluid type (for example) BUT would also need very detailed info regarding all samples.

They'd also want to send the samples to a reputable crime lab so they know the results will hold up in court & that probably means they have to wait their turn as there are SO many cases that need to be processed.

Inn this case, we might even have Orlando AND the Feds running separate tests.... I can't imagine the Feds can be happy that this little b1tch is lying to their agents. lol

Aha! Now that makes sense.....kinda like 2 cadaver dogs/2 independent crime labs. And the detailing..... Thanks! :clap:

Ginny
08-20-2008, 01:38 PM
Amber alerts were created after a little girl named Amber was kidnapped while riding her bike. She literally disappeared with a blink of the eye. There are several criteria that must be met before an amber alert is issued. They are:
• There is reasonable belief by law enforcement that an abduction has occurred.
• The law enforcement agency believes that the child is in imminent danger of serious bodily injury or death.
• There is enough descriptive information about the victim and the abduction for law enforcement to issue an AMBER Alert to assist in the recovery of the child.
• The abduction is of a child aged 17 years or younger.
• The child’s name and other critical data elements, including the Child Abduction flag, have been entered into the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) system.

Here's the link to the official website:
http://www.amberalert.gov/guidelines.htm

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 01:38 PM
I have another question. Yesterday, I was going through the phone calls and was wondering, didn't she talk to Tony either via the video phones or phone call to Tony? Did she call Tony after her phone call home that one day when she talked to Cindy, Kristina and Lee? If so, was it released?

If she has ever spoken with him since her arrest, we are not aware of it.

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:38 PM
I get it you don't like the information guy Jose Padilla, and you don't like the media. It was said in multiple articles with investigators and Padilla being the source.
See, this is my take on the car seat. You don't put your child in someone else's car unless you put them in a car seat. So you move the car seat to someone else's car, so they can drive off with your child.

That implies to me, that if the car seat is "missing" Casey moved the carseat to someone else's car so they could go off with Caylee.

Am I making more sense now?

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:38 PM
LOL YES! I DO! Where is that tape?! I want to check for that brand...er...ring on his finger now. hehehe Move over, Mark Furhman...you have been replaced.

OMG you heard it hear first WS'rs...

Now, it's WWYMD for Seriously...

SuziQ
08-20-2008, 01:39 PM
Suzi, does that mean keep the posts shorter? Or don't post anything that isn't necessary? Thanks.

I means snip down the post you are responding to. Such as recent ones this morning where there is a one line response to a 20 line quote. Such as people responding to Katie's poem.

Katie I'm not dissing you at all. I love the poem.

manatee
08-20-2008, 01:39 PM
See, this is my take on the car seat. You don't put your child in someone else's car unless you put them in a car seat. So you move the car seat to someone else's car, so they can drive off with your child.

That implies to me, that if the car seat is "missing" Casey moved the carseat to someone else's car so they could go off with Caylee.

Am I making more sense now?

the car seat was in the pontiac when found. Not missing.

Sliver
08-20-2008, 01:39 PM
Things I have learned from this case:
I have learned that if the neighbor borrows the shovel, ask why! Don't plant bamboo it seems to be a bugger, don't know why anyone would have it.

Pizza when left in a car trunk for weeks in the heat smells like pizza in the end, and could never ever be mistaken for decomposition of a body.

Telling lies is not against the law?!?!

Children are precious (knew this before but makes me think of it over and over as I research this case)

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:40 PM
Where has it been stated that LE has TonE's phone / phone records? Certainly seems logical that he would volunteer these to LE, but I hadn't seen that anywhere in the news or press releases or afifdavits...I am following logic here. They went to TonE's and would certainly have wanted those records. We may not have seen the SW for the phone company as there are many SWs we do not see behind the scenes being carried out.

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 01:40 PM
I have another question. Yesterday, I was going through the phone calls and was wondering, didn't she talk to Tony either via the video phones or phone call to Tony? Did she call Tony after her phone call home that one day when she talked to Cindy, Kristina and Lee? If so, was it released?

Tony has not talked to Casey since her arrest.

Clearly Confused
08-20-2008, 01:40 PM
Picture this.......

Casey is released after her hearing on Thursday, between 3 and 4 pm.

Goes home with her GPS ankle transmitter and her female escort.

Once she gets home.... the "secret" voice transmitter (in the bracelet) begins sending her every word to the eager monitors.
I said something similiar the other day. Something along the lines of bugging the house. Maybe that is why the dective stopped by.

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:41 PM
.. Big media farce...

.."Barking up the wrong tree.."

.." so embedded in her story .. I dont think she will help at all..

Katie526
08-20-2008, 01:41 PM
I means snip down the post you are responding to. Such as recent ones this morning where there is a one line response to a 20 line quote. Such as people responding to Katie's poem.

Katie I'm not dissing you at all. I love the poem.

No problem. It is pretty big.

sweetwater
08-20-2008, 01:41 PM
Sweetwater! Good morning! Even though it's afternoon here, still feels like morning, so I know how you feel. lol.. The night shift isn't all it's cracked up to be when there is promise of big news the following A.M.

I can't recall exactly about the discussion following the 911 calls being released. But I do remember thinking.. Dear God what did she do to that precious baby?!?

If I can find the thread when it first hit the fan, I'll gladly pass it along to ya. There is tons of reading on the case.

Casey went into defense mode immediately and started the babysitter/nanny conspiracy. There was plenty of speculation through all the threads about that, including who in their right mind would think to go on myspace when their child was missing and the car smelled like death.

Has there been any discussion about how myspace oriented the Anthony family seems to be, yet the three who have not been arrested were apparently oblivious to all of Casey's posts/pictures that are readily available to the public? Do you or anyone else remember Cindy making a claim that Casey may have posted/doctored Cindy's post on July 3 regarding her despair over Caylee being missing?

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:42 PM
OMG you heard it hear first WS'rs...

Now, it's WWYMD for Seriously...I know! I am sure MF is very sad at this turn of events, too. Sorry, Mark. You had your chance. (Fluffing my hair and blowing on my fingernails.)

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 01:42 PM
If she has ever spoken with him since her arrest, we are not aware of it.

Ok thank you. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. She was very adamant about calling TonE after the phone call home so I wasn't sure if she did or not.

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 01:42 PM
See, this is my take on the car seat. You don't put your child in someone else's car unless you put them in a car seat. So you move the car seat to someone else's car, so they can drive off with your child.

That implies to me, that if the car seat is "missing" Casey moved the carseat to someone else's car so they could go off with Caylee.

Am I making more sense now?

But according to multiple LE sources it's not missing. By it not being missing contributes to her not giving Caylee to anyone who didn't have a carseat. Maybe ZG, JG, and AH all had carseats so that fact doesn't matter eh?

Eponine
08-20-2008, 01:42 PM
I means snip down the post you are responding to. Such as recent ones this morning where there is a one line response to a 20 line quote. Such as people responding to Katie's poem.

Katie I'm not dissing you at all. I love the poem.

Point taken :)

Lanie
08-20-2008, 01:42 PM
My service is through AT&T (formerly Cingular). About 2 and a half years ago, my phone was going out, so I bought a new one. The sim card didn't come with it, I would have had to buy it separately, but I just transferred it from the old phone. At the time I obtained the old phone, it was standard to get the sim card included, but not anymore. About a month later, I laid my new phone on a shelf at a Sam's and walked off and left it. Didn't realize til the next morning, and of course it has never been seen again. I had to go buy another new phone, and I had to buy a sim card separately, it didn't come with the phone. I've had that phone all this time. At some point, I realized I could save my phone numbers to the sim card, and started doing that, but still had a lot of numbers just saved to the phone. This Friday, my phone started messing up. I have insurance, so called phone company, we couldn't fix phone, so they sent me a new one, minus sim card. I tried to mass save my #'s from phone to sim, and it wiped out about half the numbers I had. Fun for me. I got my new phone, and had to program it to save numbers to the sim card instead of the phone, it was default to phone. I am not tech challenged, but this turned out to be a little harder than I expected it to be. Even though both phones are Motorolas and have a lot in common, the setups are different.

Also, my husband's phone was messing up a few months back, and he had to go out of town for a couple of weeks. He needed the phone for business purposes, so I made my son trade phones with him. They swapped sim cards so they would still have their own number and info, and we had to do the same thing, go through and save all numbers in address book from phone to sim.

Lanie

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:43 PM
I know! I am sure MF is very sad at this turn of events, too. Sorry, Mark. You had your chance. (Fluffing my hair and blowing on my fingernails.)


Now I gotta go find the link and study it awhile.. anyone?

ETA: I PM'd Patty G, she is our media links extrordinairre

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 01:44 PM
My husband and I have service thru Verizon and neither of our phones come with a SIM card nor do they need them to work......

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 01:44 PM
Ok thank you. I just wanted to make sure I didn't miss something. She was very adamant about calling TonE after the phone call home so I wasn't sure if she did or not.

I don't know if she tried to call or not... but from what I understand, he ain't answerin... LOL

SuziQ
08-20-2008, 01:44 PM
No problem. It is pretty big.

:blowkiss:

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:45 PM
But according to multiple LE sources it's not missing. By it not being missing contributes to her not giving Caylee to anyone who didn't have a carseat. Maybe ZG, JG, and AH all had carseats so that fact doesn't matter eh?
I guess when it goes to trial, we will find out who had carseats. I'm not going to stress over it.

Mendara
08-20-2008, 01:45 PM
Things I have learned from this case:
I have learned that if the neighbor borrows the shovel, ask why! Don't plant bamboo it seems to be a bugger, don't know why anyone would have it.

Pizza when left in a car trunk for weeks in the heat smells like pizza in the end, and could never ever be mistaken for decomposition of a body.

Telling lies is not against the law?!?!

Children are precious (knew this before but makes me think of it over and over as I research this case)

I would add to this: Just because no other human being has ever met or seen a person you claim to know and that person does not seem to be real in any form of any kind does not mean that person does not exist.

SuziQ
08-20-2008, 01:46 PM
I don't have the link handy. But if someone else does, can they please post a link to where LE states that they do have the carseat? TIA.

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:46 PM
Now I gotta go find the link and study it awhile.. anyone?I think I have the video of him on the stand at the bond hearing somewhere near my nightstand...let me check. :nluv:

krimekat
08-20-2008, 01:46 PM
I would add to this: Just because no other human being has ever met or seen a person you claim to know and that person does not seem to be real in any form of any kind does not mean that person does not exist.

Huh???:waitasec:

marmar
08-20-2008, 01:47 PM
OMG you heard it hear first WS'rs...

Now, it's WWYMD for Seriously...

Now that's funny!

miss lisa
08-20-2008, 01:49 PM
I don't have the link handy. But if someone else does, can they please post a link to where LE states that they do have the carseat? TIA.

It has it's own thread. All the information is there.

nnglas
08-20-2008, 01:49 PM
Anybody know why she isn't being released today?

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:49 PM
I think I have the video of him on the stand at the bond hearing somewhere near my nightstand...let me check. :nluv:


Harlot :xena_banana:

I pm'd Patty G for it, hers will be slobber free I hope :) :):blowkiss:

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:49 PM
I would add to this: Just because no other human being has ever met or seen a person you claim to know and that person does not seem to be real in any form of any kind does not mean that person does not exist.Sorry, but I am pulling the BS handle on that one!! People do not go completely undetected EVER. This is how criminals are caught all the time. Someone notices them out of a sea of people.

Whiner
08-20-2008, 01:49 PM
I don't have the link handy. But if someone else does, can they please post a link to where LE states that they do have the carseat? TIA.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69243 This is the carseat thread. The thread got buried.

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 01:50 PM
Huh???:waitasec:

I'm not even gonna go there, kk. :silenced:

krimekat
08-20-2008, 01:50 PM
It has it's own thread. All the information is there.

miss lisa ROCKS!!!! :rocker:

liltigress
08-20-2008, 01:50 PM
Has there been any discussion about how myspace oriented the Anthony family seems to be, yet the three who have not been arrested were apparently oblivious to all of Casey's posts/pictures that are readily available to the public? Do you or anyone else remember Cindy making a claim that Casey may have posted/doctored Cindy's post on July 3 regarding her despair over Caylee being missing?

I don't remember hearing that at all. That's the first mention of it that I'm aware of.

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 01:50 PM
harlot :xena_banana:

I pm'd patty g for it, hers will be slobber free i hope :) :):blowkiss:

lmao!

robotdog
08-20-2008, 01:51 PM
people like babysitters can exist if nobody has ever met them
but actual people have APARTMENTS OR HOMES and PHONE NUMBERS that EXIST:crazy:


there aint a baby sitter - i asked my dog if he thought a baby sitter existed
and he said "are you crazy? its a LOAD OF BULLCRAP"

the detectives went to the house i think cause the GP's asked them to

detectives dont make social visits for tea and cookies

sad, but its coming to reality for the GP's

Lanie
08-20-2008, 01:51 PM
The group of volunteers here took a few key spots and searched. Why isn't this being done by LE? The only answer I can come up with is because they know something we don't and so that's why they aren't searching. But then it begs the question, IMO, that why did they come and even bother gathering the evidence that the volunteer searchers (who are absolute ANGELS and we can not thank them enough, btw!) found if they already have the 'answers'?

Caylee Anthony is not the only case going on in FL. While what was found may or may not have bearing on this case, it could also have bearing on other cases.
Lanie

MD MOMMY
08-20-2008, 01:51 PM
Interesting how Casey states the sim card fell out of her bag..then says pocket immediately after that..I wonder if that is the bag that was found?? Weird..how she changed her story so fast as if we haven't seen that before although this time she was QUICK lol

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:51 PM
I don't have the link handy. But if someone else does, can they please post a link to where LE states that they do have the carseat? TIA.
"Some" may be confusing the brown bags taken out of the garage which were said to include the car seat in one of those bags. I have only "heard" that Padilla (the Deputy) said they had the car seat. So, I have no proof LE has the carseat. In fact, I "heard" they were looking at pawn shops for the carseat.

JMO.

tehcloser
08-20-2008, 01:51 PM
:eek: Not the dreaded carseat argument pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee.:shocked2:

krimekat
08-20-2008, 01:52 PM
Continuing to BUMP this Mod Msg for all posters to follow!!! WS Rock!!! :rocker:


Please continue GENERAL discussions here.

Look around Caylee has a FORUM, (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=166) there are several threads started on specific topics to try and stay organized.

Links to previous and similar threads can be found toward the bottom of the page.

Newbies.....

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/websleuths.jpg

I am sad such a tragedy is bringing us all together.

I advise everyone to read the RULES of WS, Long (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66869)and Short Version (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66872).

robotdog
08-20-2008, 01:52 PM
real people have real names with real addresses

ehheheehehehehhe:laugh:

doortonowhere
08-20-2008, 01:53 PM
I "heard" they were looking at pawn shops for the carseat.
JMO.
Pawnshops ?? That is a new one on me, in all my life I have yet to see a pawn shop carry carseats.

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 01:53 PM
Who carries their SIM card loose in their bag or pocket??? I dont know about most of you but we ONLY have cellphones - no home phone ---- if we lost our sims (thankfully like I said this isnt the case now since we're sim free) we would have NO phone numbers for anyone.

Perfect example - Husb. lost his cellphone about a month ago at a service call --- Hes STILL waiting patiently for some of his friends to realize they havent heard from him in awhile so he can reprogram the numbers into the new phone.....

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:54 PM
:eek: Not the dreaded carseat argument pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee.:shocked2:
LMAO. Do you have an answer on this one? I'll give you my next born if you do.

krimekat
08-20-2008, 01:54 PM
Anybody know why she isn't being released today?

So many reasons, so little time . . .

robotdog
08-20-2008, 01:55 PM
i have never taken my sim card out

is this a common practice ??

sounds made up to me :crazy:

TKS2003
08-20-2008, 01:55 PM
Who carries their SIM card loose in their bag or pocket??? I dont know about most of you but we ONLY have cellphones - no home phone ---- if we lost our sims (thankfully like I said this isnt the case now since we're sim free) we would have NO phone numbers for anyone.

Perfect example - Husb. lost his cellphone about a month ago at a service call --- Hes STILL waiting patiently for some of his friends to realize they havent heard from him in awhile so he can reprogram the numbers into the new phone.....

I didnt even know what a SIM card was until I heard Casey on the tape!! Still not sure where/what it is on my phone....dont even care, I am in information overload.

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 01:55 PM
Continuing to BUMP this Mod Msg for all posters to follow!!! WS Rock!!! :rocker:Krime...YES we know!! And frankly, I feel this is directed towards me. :)

Blink34
08-20-2008, 01:55 PM
real people have real names with real addresses

ehheheehehehehhe:laugh:

How do you know if you've never seen them?? Theory proved..

Kidding..

Question: How many pancakes does it take to shingle a dog house?

Answer: Who gives a rats a**? Irrelevent, is my point..

That I am aware of there is nobody made of vapor in this case.

impatientredhead
08-20-2008, 01:55 PM
I could have sworn that we had concluded that the car seat was found in the car. It was stated by LE. Am I losing it here?

It was in the car and they have stated that there is no evidence that Caylee died in the carseat (ie left in a hot car). LE has the carseat.

robotdog
08-20-2008, 01:55 PM
real people have real names with real addresses

ehheheehehehehhe:laugh:

bumpity bump bump

:behindbar

robotdog
08-20-2008, 01:56 PM
How do you know if you've never seen them?? Theory proved..

Kidding..

Question: How many pancakes does it take to shingle a dog house?

Answer: Who gives a rats a**? Irrelevent, is my point..

That I am aware of there is nobody made of vapor in this case.

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::)

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:56 PM
i have never taken my sim card out

is this a common practice ??

sounds made up to me :crazy:
I didn't know I had one. On well, doesn't matter. I have one phone. No need to "move" a sim card around.

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 01:57 PM
Also - as far as the SIM card ---- when we DID have them -- and we upgraded phones they had a machine at the store that plugged into both phones and simply transferred the data over......

Now what was the reason again that she was switching the SIM back and forth? And WHY did she have two phones???

robotdog
08-20-2008, 01:57 PM
I didn't know I had one. On well, doesn't matter. I have one phone. No need to "move" a sim card around.

same here

casey has a scam card.

jazzelwood
08-20-2008, 01:57 PM
I said something similiar the other day. Something along the lines of bugging the house. Maybe that is why the dective stopped by.


your avatar makes me sad today - pray for Gana
http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,4866,00.html

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 01:58 PM
It was in the car and they have stated that there is no evidence that Caylee died in the carseat (ie left in a hot car). LE has the carseat.
Thank you! :blowkiss:

krimekat
08-20-2008, 01:58 PM
:eek: Not the dreaded carseat argument pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee.:shocked2:

Again, again, again, again, a car seat was found in the 98 Pontiac Casey was driving. It has its own thread. There are MANY specific threads in this forum with exceptional info & links to back them up

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2527463#post2527463

Mendara
08-20-2008, 01:58 PM
Sorry, but I am pulling the BS handle on that one!! People do not go completely undetected EVER. This is how criminals are caught all the time. Someone notices them out of a sea of people.

oh I know I was being sarcastic.

sweetwater
08-20-2008, 01:58 PM
I would add to this: Just because no other human being has ever met or seen a person you claim to know and that person does not seem to be real in any form of any kind does not mean that person does not exist.

Or the voices and wild imaginings in your head.
Puhleze.

jeepgirlva
08-20-2008, 01:58 PM
If she has ever spoken with him since her arrest, we are not aware of it.
Thats the question I had too ...maybe she did and le has not released the call could be saving this on for the trial...

robotdog
08-20-2008, 01:58 PM
Also - as far as the SIM card ---- when we DID have them -- and we upgraded phones they had a machine at the store that plugged into both phones and simply transferred the data over......

Now what was the reason again that she was switching the SIM back and forth? And WHY did she have two phones???

one for business ...:D:laugh:


and one for the baby sitter to get back to her

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 01:59 PM
Caylee Anthony is not the only case going on in FL. While what was found may or may not have bearing on this case, it could also have bearing on other cases.
Lanie

True, very true! And the media is running with it saying it has to do with this case or implying as much. Very true. TY!

justathought
08-20-2008, 01:59 PM
[quote=robotdog;2527421]people like babysitters can exist if nobody has ever met them
but actual people have APARTMENTS OR HOMES and PHONE NUMBERS that EXIST:crazy:

You would think. However, when my ex vanished after I filed for divorce over a year and a half ago. The PI my attorney evenutally hired because service had to be done or a curator appointed, eventually told my attorney that the took- forever-to-be-ex had litterally dropped off the face of the earth. His family wouldn't talk and the PI couldn't find a trace anywhere over a copule of states. He went completely underground. It can be done. I think the lawyer and the PI ere suspicous of me for a minute or two...and I couldn't even prove he was calling me now and then...switched sim cards and phones......

MD MOMMY
08-20-2008, 01:59 PM
Interesting how Casey states the sim card fell out of her bag..then says pocket immediately after that..I wonder if that is the bag that was found?? Weird..how she changed her story so fast as if we haven't seen that before although this time she was QUICK lol

See then would have asked well where is the bag and she doesn't know..It's easier to know where your pocket is I guess...lol quoting myself.

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 01:59 PM
one for business ...:D:laugh:


and one for the baby sitter to get back to her


:liar:

Lanie
08-20-2008, 02:00 PM
I could have sworn that we had concluded that the car seat was found in the car. It was stated by LE. Am I losing it here?

No, you are not losing it. LE has stated the carseat was in the car. This has been linked to many times over.

Lanie

mamadofthree
08-20-2008, 02:00 PM
Caylee Anthony is not the only case going on in FL. While what was found may or may not have bearing on this case, it could also have bearing on other cases.
Lanie

Good point Lanie. I wondered that too.. And if LE knows something I am so anxious to hear it!

Clearly Confused
08-20-2008, 02:00 PM
your avatar makes me sad today - pray for Gana
http://www.foxnews.com/photoessay/0,4644,4866,00.html

Sorry OT

I know I saw it earlier.:( The poor mommy.

Kelsy_C
08-20-2008, 02:01 PM
Okay, I have a dumb question.... What is the major difference between preliminary test and the actual forensics? Is it the difference between JV and varsity so to speak? Prelim tests aren't admissable in court because the testing isn't quite done yet? :waitasec:

Didn't see this directly answered.

A preliminary test would be say a test with Luminol or Phenolythaline (sp?), which tells CSI that there is blood present. The "actual forensics" would say that this is person x's DNA. So while the prelim tests confirm the present of fluids, hair, blood, etc the actual forensics will tell you who they came from.

robotdog
08-20-2008, 02:01 PM
[quote=robotdog;2527421]people like babysitters can exist if nobody has ever met them
but actual people have APARTMENTS OR HOMES and PHONE NUMBERS that EXIST:crazy:

You would think. However, when my ex vanished after I filed for divorce over a year and a half ago. The PI my attorney evenutally hired because service had to be done or a curator appointed, eventually told my attorney that the took- forever-to-be-ex had litterally dropped off the face of the earth. His family wouldn't talk and the PI couldn't find a trace anywhere over a copule of states. He went completely underground. It can be done. I think the lawyer and the PI ere suspicous of me for a minute or two...and I couldn't even prove he was calling me now and then...switched sim cards and phones......

i understand what you are saying but my point was that the babysitter
that casey told the world about --- her address was bogus and the phone was bogus...

yes, people can disappear but that is not what happened in this case

im sorry for your situation. :)

BloodHoundSleuther
08-20-2008, 02:01 PM
I didn't know I had one. On well, doesn't matter. I have one phone. No need to "move" a sim card around.

If she was moving her SIM card around, she is the first person I have heard of who does this. I'm sure most of us have cell phones, and know many people that have cell phones. This is not common practice and makes absolutley no sense. I have two cell phones, so does my husband and neither one of us have ever entertained that idea. It would only be necessary, if you were making up an excuse or if you were trying to hide something. That's my two cents!

miss lisa
08-20-2008, 02:01 PM
i have never taken my sim card out

is this a common practice ??

sounds made up to me :crazy:

With Casey...made up IS common practice!

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 02:01 PM
Good point Lanie. I wondered that too.. And if LE knows something I am so anxious to hear it!


Someone had also said that the park had been searched prior to the panties, gas can, etc., being located --- one would think if this was the case --- panties stuck to a fence would have been noticed?

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 02:01 PM
I didn't know I had one. On well, doesn't matter. I have one phone. No need to "move" a sim card around.

ditto that!

justathought
08-20-2008, 02:02 PM
i have never taken my sim card out

is this a common practice ??

sounds made up to me :crazy:

Mine was falling out. All the time. Over and over. Finally learned I could order a new back for the phone.

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 02:02 PM
oh I know I was being sarcastic.Oh! We really need a sarcasm smiley, don't we?! LOL

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 02:02 PM
i have never taken my sim card out

is this a common practice ??

sounds made up to me :crazy:

It happens all the time. I have two phones myself that I have switched my sim card with because one phone broke.

robotdog
08-20-2008, 02:02 PM
:liar:

:crazy::crazy:

sweetwater
08-20-2008, 02:03 PM
I don't remember hearing that at all. That's the first mention of it that I'm aware of.

I read that last week. I'll try to find out where and see where it came from.

liltigress
08-20-2008, 02:04 PM
Someone had also said that the park had been searched prior to the panties, gas can, etc., being located --- one would think if this was the case --- panties stuck to a fence would have been noticed?

LOL Ewwwwwwwww!

Themis
08-20-2008, 02:05 PM
Oh! We really need a sarcasm smiley, don't we?! LOL

:rolleyes:

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 02:05 PM
Again, again, again, again, a car seat was found in the 98 Pontiac Casey was driving. It has its own thread. There are MANY specific threads in this forum with exceptional info & links to back them up

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2527463#post2527463
I looked for the thread about the car seat, but couldn't find it. What page is it on? Never mind. I see it thanks.

See it helps so much if people post the link then quote from the article:

"Meanwhile, Orange County sheriff's detectives have found a car seat and are sifting for more clues in an abandoned car that belongs to the missing toddler's grandmother. The woman at the center of the case, the child's mother, remains in jail, and an official said Saturday that she has had no visits from family members since her arrest Wednesday."

LiveLoveLaughLiza
08-20-2008, 02:05 PM
Does anyone know what her other phone was? Depending on the phone, her story of switching the SIM cards could be another lie. Certain phones will not accept a SIM from another phone...even phones that are provided by the same carrier.

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 02:06 PM
OK, question here too. I listened to the bond hearing again last night and it was stated that a black light was taken to the trunk and the stain glowed underneath the black light. If I am mistaken, the black light hits on bodily fluids so if it was just garbage that leaked or whatever excuse they gave, wouldn't that totally be BS? I wanted to post this here to see what thoughts are. I'm going to research this myself as well.

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 02:06 PM
[quote=robotdog;2527421]people like babysitters can exist if nobody has ever met them
but actual people have APARTMENTS OR HOMES and PHONE NUMBERS that EXIST:crazy:

You would think. However, when my ex vanished after I filed for divorce over a year and a half ago. The PI my attorney evenutally hired because service had to be done or a curator appointed, eventually told my attorney that the took- forever-to-be-ex had litterally dropped off the face of the earth. His family wouldn't talk and the PI couldn't find a trace anywhere over a copule of states. He went completely underground. It can be done. I think the lawyer and the PI ere suspicous of me for a minute or two...and I couldn't even prove he was calling me now and then...switched sim cards and phones......

But he didn't drop of the face of the earth before he went missing. ZG doesn't exist before June 16th either.

Arwen
08-20-2008, 02:07 PM
There are only a couple networks that use SIM cards. Verizon and Sprint don't use them (but I think Verizon does sell a couple of models that can use them). It's really a stupid way for a cell company to do business because the black/gray market with these phones is crazy... watch ebay. If your phone is stolen, it can still be used... only the SIM card is deactivated.

Why anyone would need two different phones? I have no idea. I know people with multiple batteries but phones? Sounds like a fashion accessory thing to me... Wouldn't surprise me. A lot of the kids Casey's age use their kids as accessories too... sound familiar perhaps?

BloodHoundSleuther
08-20-2008, 02:07 PM
Someone had also said that the park had been searched prior to the panties, gas can, etc., being located --- one would think if this was the case --- panties stuck to a fence would have been noticed?

Sometimes things get missed! I have learned this first hand myself. I also think that anyone searching would be most likely looking down, especially considering what they are looking for.:)

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 02:07 PM
Look...right now there is nothing new to report or even discuss in this case. We are all on hold until it has been decided what is going to happen with Casey getting out or unless new news comes up to discuss. When these things do happen...I can assure you that we will keep this thread right on topic or try to!

liltigress
08-20-2008, 02:07 PM
OK, question here too. I listened to the bond hearing again last night and it was stated that a black light was taken to the trunk and the stain glowed underneath the black light. If I am mistaken, the black light hits on bodily fluids so if it was just garbage that leaked or whatever excuse they gave, wouldn't that totally be BS? I wanted to post this here to see what thoughts are. I'm going to research this myself as well.

If I'm not mistaken, Arm & Hammer liquid laundry soap is respondent to black light also.

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 02:08 PM
OK, question here too. I listened to the bond hearing again last night and it was stated that a black light was taken to the trunk and the stain glowed underneath the black light. If I am mistaken, the black light hits on bodily fluids so if it was just garbage that leaked or whatever excuse they gave, wouldn't that totally be BS? I wanted to post this here to see what thoughts are. I'm going to research this myself as well.

Ok found it:


Question: What Materials Glow Under a Black or Ultraviolet Light?
Answer: There are a lot of everyday materials that fluoresce, or glow, when placed under a black light. A black light gives off highly energetic ultraviolet light. You can't see this part of the spectrum, which is how 'black lights' got their name. Fluorescent substances absorb the ultraviolet light and then re-emit it almost instantaneously. Some energy gets lost in the process, so the emitted light has a longer wavelength than the absorbed radiation, which makes this light visible and causes the material to appear to 'glow'.

Fluorescent molecules tend to have rigid structures and delocalized electrons. Examples of common materials that contain fluorescent molecules include:

* White Paper
White paper is treated with fluorescent compounds to help it appear brighter and therefore whiter. Sometimes forgery of historical documents can be detected by placing them under a black light to see whether or not they fluoresce. White paper made post-1950 contains fluorescent chemicals while older paper doesn't.

* Club Soda or Tonic Water
The bitter flavoring of tonic water is due to the presence of quinine, which glows blue-white when placed under a black light.

* Body Fluids
Many body fluids contain fluorescent molecules. Forensic scientists use ultraviolet lights at crime scenes to find blood, urine, or semen (all fluorescent).

* Vitamins
Vitamin A and the B vitamins thiamine, niacin, and riboflavin are strongly fluorescent. Try crushing a vitamin B-12 tablet and dissolving it in vinegar. The solution will glow bright yellow under under a black light.

* Chlorophyll
Chlorophyll makes plants green, but it fluoresces a blood red color. Grind some spinach or swiss chard in a small amount of alcohol (e.g., vodka or everclear) and pour it through a coffee filter to get chlorophyll extract (you keep the part that stays on the filter, not the liquid). You can see the red glow using a black light or even a strong fluorescent bulb, such as an overhead projector lamp, which (you guessed it) gives off ultraviolet light.

* Antifreeze
Manufacturers purposely include fluorescent additives in antifreeze fluid so that black lights can be used to find antifreeze splashes to help invesitagors reconstruct automobile accident scenes.

* Laundry Detergents
Some of the whiteners in detergent work by making your clothing a bit fluorescent. Even though clothing is rinsed after washing, residues on white clothing cause it to glow bluish-white under a black light. Blueing agents and softening agents often contain fluorescent dyes, too. The presence of these molecules sometimes causes white clothing to appear blue in photographs.

* Tooth Whiteners
Whiteners and some enamels contain compounds that glow blue to keep teeth from appearing yellow.

* Postage Stamps
Stamps are printed with inks that contain fluorescent dyes.

* Jellyfish
If you have a jellyfish handy, see what it looks like under a black light in a darkened room. Some of the proteins within a jellyfish are intensely fluorescent.

* Some Minerals and Gems
Fluorescent rocks include fluorite, calcite, gypsum, ruby, talc, opal, agate, quartz, and amber. Minerals and gemstones are most commonly made fluorescent or phosphorescent due to the presence of impurities. The Hope Diamond, which is blue, phosphoresces red for several seconds after exposure to shortwave ultraviolet light.

tehcloser
08-20-2008, 02:08 PM
Look...right now there is nothing new to report or even discuss in this case. We are all on hold until it has been decided what is going to happen with Casey getting out or unless new news comes up to discuss. When these things do happen...I can assure you that we will keep this thread right on topic or try to!

Amen.

jeepgirlva
08-20-2008, 02:08 PM
The system leaves out too many children. What about the child who was out riding their bike and got taken? Or those who are kidnapped from their bedrooms? What about them? There is no system for them.
In those cases I'm sure a call would be made to police as soon as possible ...they wouldn't wait 31 days before going to the police

impatientredhead
08-20-2008, 02:09 PM
OK, question here too. I listened to the bond hearing again last night and it was stated that a black light was taken to the trunk and the stain glowed underneath the black light. If I am mistaken, the black light hits on bodily fluids so if it was just garbage that leaked or whatever excuse they gave, wouldn't that totally be BS? I wanted to post this here to see what thoughts are. I'm going to research this myself as well.

http://chemistry.about.com/cs/howthingswork/f/blblacklight.htm

christine2448
08-20-2008, 02:09 PM
FYI- For those questioning why no Amber Alert for Caylee..here are the guidelines for the State of FL.


http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/amberplan/images/amber_banner.jpg
Criteria For Activation


To activate the AMBER alert the following five (5) criteria must be met.


The child must be under 18 years of age.

There must be a clear indication of an abduction.

The law enforcement agency's investigation must conclude that the child's life is in danger.

There must be a detailed description of child and/or abductor/vehicle to broadcast to the public (photo when available).

The activation must be recommended by the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction.
Steps For Activation



The Amber alert can only be activated by law enforcement.

The local law enforcement agency will call the FDLE Missing Children Information Clearinghouse (MCIC) at 1-888-356-4774.

The FDLE will work in conjunction with the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction to determine if information is to be broadcast on a regional or statewide basis.

The FDLE working in conjunction with the local law enforcement agency of jurisdiction will prepare information for public distribution.

The FDLE will ensure that the information is broadcast through the Emergency Alert System, Dynamic Message Signs, lottery machines, http://www.missingchildrenalert.com (http://www.missingchildrenalert.com/) , and other resources.
Available Resources



Local media outlets

Local Crime Stoppers

National Center for Missing and Exploited Children 1-800-843-5678 (Florida Branch 1-561-848-1900)

Jimmy Ryce Center for Victims of Predatory Abductions 1-800-JIM-RYCE (546-7923)

Child Watch (Orlando) 1-800-928-2445

A Child is Missing, Inc. 1-888-875-2246

FBI National Center for the Analysis of Violent Crime 1-800-634-4097

If you have any questions about the Florida Amber Plan, please contact the FDLE/MCIC at 1-888-356-4774 or http://www.fdle.state.fl.us (http://www.flde.state.fl.us/)
(http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/AmberPlan/index.html)

BloodHoundSleuther
08-20-2008, 02:09 PM
There are only a couple networks that use SIM cards. Verizon and Sprint don't use them (but I think Verizon does sell a couple of models that can use them). It's really a stupid way for a cell company to do business because the black/gray market with these phones is crazy... watch ebay. If your phone is stolen, it can still be used... only the SIM card is deactivated.

Why anyone would need two different phones? I have no idea. I know people with multiple batteries but phones? Sounds like a fashion accessory thing to me... Wouldn't surprise me. A lot of the kids Casey's age use their kids as accessories too... sound familiar perhaps?

My husband and I both have two phones. We both have been provided a phone by our employeers, but they are not to be used for personal use which is why we both have personal phones as well. Still doesn't explain Casey considering she wasn't working, at least not that I've heard!

Mendara
08-20-2008, 02:09 PM
There are only a couple networks that use SIM cards. Verizon and Sprint don't use them (but I think Verizon does sell a couple of models that can use them). It's really a stupid way for a cell company to do business because the black/gray market with these phones is crazy... watch ebay. If your phone is stolen, it can still be used... only the SIM card is deactivated.

Why anyone would need two different phones? I have no idea. I know people with multiple batteries but phones? Sounds like a fashion accessory thing to me... Wouldn't surprise me. A lot of the kids Casey's age use their kids as accessories too... sound familiar perhaps?

IMO am undercover hooker needs two phones, one for her regular family and friends and the other for her regular customers. Or maybe there was never another phone or maybe that phone was destroyed. Wouldn't Le be able to get phone records for both from the telephone company even if it is lost?

robotdog
08-20-2008, 02:09 PM
Does anyone know what her other phone was? Depending on the phone, her story of switching the SIM cards could be another lie. Certain phones will not accept a SIM from another phone...even phones that are provided by the same carrier.

not sure, but i heard a rumor that it was a fairly new type phone that was really incredible- it allowed you go clubbing drinking and tell lies all day long and not feel any remorse whatsoever..


really amazing technology

Georgia101957
08-20-2008, 02:10 PM
My husband needs one for business (paid for by the company) and one for personal, he uses a phone with dual sims. One phone , 2 different numbers, 2 different carriers. :)

impatientredhead
08-20-2008, 02:10 PM
OK, question here too. I listened to the bond hearing again last night and it was stated that a black light was taken to the trunk and the stain glowed underneath the black light. If I am mistaken, the black light hits on bodily fluids so if it was just garbage that leaked or whatever excuse they gave, wouldn't that totally be BS? I wanted to post this here to see what thoughts are. I'm going to research this myself as well.

http://www.jobinyvon.com/Forensics/Light-Sources/Applications

liltigress
08-20-2008, 02:12 PM
Oh Oh, Scorpions are also blacklight respondent. Just some useless trivia I find interesting and thought I'd share.

Kelsy_C
08-20-2008, 02:13 PM
http://www.jobinyvon.com/Forensics/Light-Sources/Applications

Great link!!!

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 02:14 PM
Thank you so much for the links. LOL @ the scorpions! ;-)

Arwen
08-20-2008, 02:15 PM
But if she uses the same SIM for both phones, the network reads it as the same customer so if it were a work phone (impossible since she hasn't had a real job for two years) and she inserted it into a personal phone, the network would still read it as the same account as the work phone, therefore, it does nothing. Two phones, yes, I understand the logistics but two phones sharing one SIM is for fashion only.

Eponine
08-20-2008, 02:15 PM
My husband needs one for business (paid for by the company) and one for personal, he uses a phone with dual sims. One phone , 2 different numbers, 2 different carriers. :)

Yep, this is the main reason I've seen for two phones/sim cards. Problem is, I don't think Casey was getting the perk of a "company cell phone" considering she didn't have a job. :confused:

Mouser
08-20-2008, 02:15 PM
You all are makin' me feel old.

This is o/t, but for those of us out-of-the-know, would someone mind posting, or is there a post you can direct me to, with a glossary of the acronyms commonly used here.

Thanks-a-mil.

Blondieskatz
08-20-2008, 02:15 PM
Who knows if Casey really had a second phone (blackjack) anyway? She probably told that lie knowing there was no call from the "nanny" on her current phone, but what she forgot is that no matter what kind of phone she was using, her phone record would show all calls for her cell number.

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 02:16 PM
Look...right now there is nothing new to report or even discuss in this case. We are all on hold until it has been decided what is going to happen with Casey getting out or unless new news comes up to discuss. When these things do happen...I can assure you that we will keep this thread right on topic or try to!

Amen sister.. and can I just say that this IS a "General Discussion" Thread, right? I never got all this "stay on topic" stuff. Isn't this CASE, the topic??

robotdog
08-20-2008, 02:16 PM
2 phones for someone not employed by a company is a bit odd

2 phone for a person working is perfectly acceptable and makes sense

2 phones for someone that is not working but needs a COVER for something
will work

Arwen
08-20-2008, 02:17 PM
Now we understand why Daddy had such a fit about needing to have pizza, laundry detergent and garbage bags in the mixture when trying to get the body comp odor when they did that experiment.

imnotheonlyone
08-20-2008, 02:17 PM
7/24/2008 ORDER APPOINTING EXPERTS FOR COMPETENCY EVALUATION

I believe that the results of a COMPETENCY EVALUTION are likely one of the undisclosed holds. Have the "experts" been identified?

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 02:17 PM
I looked for the thread about the car seat, but couldn't find it. What page is it on? Never mind. I see it thanks.

See it helps so much if people post the link then quote from the article:

"Meanwhile, Orange County sheriff's detectives have found a car seat and are sifting for more clues in an abandoned car that belongs to the missing toddler's grandmother. The woman at the center of the case, the child's mother, remains in jail, and an official said Saturday that she has had no visits from family members since her arrest Wednesday."
Quoting myself so people can try and understand what I'm saying. Most links have a lot of information in them. So, if you can post the link, then quote the pertinent facts, it would be extremely helpful.

Thanks.

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 02:17 PM
IMO am undercover hooker needs two phones, one for her regular family and friends and the other for her regular customers. Or maybe there was never another phone or maybe that phone was destroyed. Wouldn't Le be able to get phone records for both from the telephone company even if it is lost?

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

undercover hooker

robotdog
08-20-2008, 02:18 PM
You all are makin' me feel old.

This is o/t, but for those of us out-of-the-know, would someone mind posting, or is there a post you can direct me to, with a glossary of the acronyms commonly used here.

Thanks-a-mil.

i dont know what half of them mean either

but i do know that CIAK might stand for casey is a killer

Blondieskatz
08-20-2008, 02:18 PM
Amen sister.. and can I just say that this IS a "General Discussion" Thread, right? I never got all this "stay on topic" stuff. Isn't this CASE, the topic??

I don't think it's so much stay on topic as it is a poster bumping a mods post. :crazy:

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 02:18 PM
We have two phone each too - one for WORK and one for PERSONAL --- Problem here being she didnt WORK!!!!

And - unless Im mistaken - blackjacks dont have SIMS -----

LiveLoveLaughLiza
08-20-2008, 02:19 PM
Was the 2nd phone bought after the 1st was cut off due to non payment? Or was she using 2 phones at the same time?

My brain hurts........

MD MOMMY
08-20-2008, 02:20 PM
Ok found it:

Maybe she was whitening her teeth in the trunk? Needed them pearly white for all her smiles in court/jail?

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 02:20 PM
snipped

And - unless Im mistaken - blackjacks dont have SIMS -----

Now wouldn't THAT be an interesting tidbit to know for sure! Not another lie??!! Couldn't be??:rolleyes:

Blondieskatz
08-20-2008, 02:20 PM
7/24/2008 ORDER APPOINTING EXPERTS FOR COMPETENCY EVALUATION

I believe that the results of a COMPETENCY EVALUTION are likely one of the undisclosed holds. Have the "experts" been identified?

I kept hearing about her having an evaluation before being released on bond. Didn't she already have one of those a while back or am I wrong?

liltigress
08-20-2008, 02:20 PM
Cell phones for this age group is an accessory. They try to outdo each other or keep up with their friends. Her newest phone, the blackjack, was only about a week old but didn't hold charge. I can understand her using it, then having to go back to the other one because of it not holding a charge.

But.... I personally think she had 2 phones, 2 accounts (1 still unknown to LE), 2 SIM cards and just covered that lie up like a 3 legged cat covering chit in a sand box.

And THAT is my most humble opinion. :)

MD MOMMY
08-20-2008, 02:21 PM
We have two phone each too - one for WORK and one for PERSONAL --- Problem here being she didnt WORK!!!!

And - unless Im mistaken - blackjacks dont have SIMS -----

Did Casey state they were both the same phone number? IIRC she did.

miss lisa
08-20-2008, 02:21 PM
2 phones for someone not employed by a company is a bit odd

2 phone for a person working is perfectly acceptable and makes sense

2 phones for someone that is not working but needs a COVER for something
will work

ALSO

1 babysitter for someone not employed by a company is a bit odd

1 babysitter for a person working is perfectly acceptable and makes sense

1 babysitter for someone that is not working but needs a COVER for something will work too

BloodHoundSleuther
08-20-2008, 02:21 PM
But if she uses the same SIM for both phones, the network reads it as the same customer so if it were a work phone (impossible since she hasn't had a real job for two years) and she inserted it into a personal phone, the network would still read it as the same account as the work phone, therefore, it does nothing. Two phones, yes, I understand the logistics but two phones sharing one SIM is for fashion only.

Two phones sharing one SIM is a convienent excuse used to cover up her steps, I'm not seeing how it has anything to do with fashion. This is not a technicaly feasible approach. The only way it makes sense is if Caysey lost a Sim card, even with that being the case, there would be no point in switching that card between phones. If she left it permanently in one phone it would make more sense. It's just another excuse, a lie to cover up facts and not be easily traced! Go figure!:)

krimekat
08-20-2008, 02:21 PM
If she was moving her SIM card around, she is the first person I have heard of who does this. I'm sure most of us have cell phones, and know many people that have cell phones. This is not common practice and makes absolutley no sense. I have two cell phones, so does my husband and neither one of us have ever entertained that idea. It would only be necessary, if you were making up an excuse or if you were trying to hide something. That's my two cents!

I so agree, BloodHound!!! I don;t even like to touch the small thing . . . I use it mainly for music file storage

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 02:21 PM
just covered that lie up like a 3 legged cat covering chit in a sand box.

And THAT is my most humble opinion. :)

Hysterical :biglaugh::biglaugh:

liltigress
08-20-2008, 02:21 PM
i dont know what half of them mean either

but i do know that CIAK might stand for casey is a killer

Ha! I'm still hung up on WWYMD.

What Would Yo Mama Do? LOL

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 02:22 PM
Maybe she was whitening her teeth in the trunk? Needed them pearly white for all her smiles in court/jail?

Hey, for that carbon copy smile she has in all of her pictures, she may have been! ;-)

MD MOMMY
08-20-2008, 02:22 PM
Cell phones for this age group is an accessory. They try to outdo each other or keep up with their friends. He newest phone, the blackjack, was only about a week old but didn't hold charge. I can understand her using it, then having to go back to the other one because of it not holding a charge.

But.... I personally think she had 2 phones, 2 accounts (1 still unknown to LE), 2 SIM cards and just covered that lie up like a 3 legged cat covering chit in a sand box.

And THAT is my most humble opinion. :)

IF she had 2 phones with 2 numbers I wonder if one was used for work..if you know what I mean? I know there has been speculation of her being an operator if ya know what I mean.

Blondieskatz
08-20-2008, 02:22 PM
Was the 2nd phone bought after the 1st was cut off due to non payment? Or was she using 2 phones at the same time?

My brain hurts........

She supposedly got another phone because the Blackjack wouldn't hold a charge for long. I believe that's in her convo w/Lee.

Katie526
08-20-2008, 02:23 PM
If I remember correctly, I thought I read that her first phone was shut off because of non-payment. She told Lee she went and got a new one at the AT & T store by the mall. :confused:

swa
08-20-2008, 02:23 PM
If you want a great read . . . read through the Search Warrant PDF again where it lists all the lies she told the detectives.

She was even sending fantasy emails to herself from make believe people at Universal Studios?

Has anyone ever found out exactly WHAT she did at Universal Studios and why she was fired?

MD MOMMY
08-20-2008, 02:23 PM
Hey, for that carbon copy smile she has in all of her pictures, she may have been! ;-)

I think we just cracked this case wide open:eek:

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 02:23 PM
ALSO

1 babysitter for someone not employed by a company is a bit odd

1 babysitter for a person working is perfectly acceptable and makes sense

1 babysitter for someone that is not working but needs a COVER for something will work too

I think we are well past the babysitter at this point. Michael Walsh, Leonard Padilla, Baez, George are spilling the next set of lies. No one in the camp has mentioned ZG in over 11 days I believe.

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 02:24 PM
If you want a great read . . . read through the Search Warrant PDF again where it lists all the lies she told the detectives.

She was even sending fantasy emails to herself from make believe people at Universal Studios?

Has anyone ever found out exactly WHAT she did at Universal Studios and why she was fired?

No but whatever it was, it was YEARS ago!

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 02:24 PM
blackjack is a cingular/at&t phone --- checking on SIM stats for it now

Blink34
08-20-2008, 02:24 PM
ok.. courtesy of PATTY G, here is the youtube (be prepared, not great but we are all looking for the original footage showing them arriving in direct feed mode..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNt-i1er75w

Putting aside Seriously's crush on YM, ahem, notice that when they arrive George comes out of the garage, no hand shake, no eyes meeting.
This was not a planned meeting and it was important, imo..

Anyone can find the whole footage from their arrival and then departure, please post.. Also, Phil Keating reports they were there for 90 minutes, not the 45 some have reported, also would like clarification on that.

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 02:24 PM
We have two phone each too - one for WORK and one for PERSONAL --- Problem here being she didnt WORK!!!!

And - unless Im mistaken - blackjacks dont have SIMS -----

Found this about the Blackjack and a SIM card:
..........The SIM card is in a niche just above the battery. You can remove and replace it without removing the battery, but it's somewhat pointless as you still have to reboot the phone before it recognizes the new SIM. .................

TraceyLeigh
08-20-2008, 02:25 PM
If you want a great read . . . read through the Search Warrant PDF again where it lists all the lies she told the detectives.

She was even sending fantasy emails to herself from make believe people at Universal Studios?

Has anyone ever found out exactly WHAT she did at Universal Studios and why she was fired?

My favorite part is where she leads the detectives down the yellow brick road all the way to her office at Universal and suddenly "oops... hehehe.. I don't really work here..." just UNREAL

Eponine
08-20-2008, 02:25 PM
She supposedly got another phone because the Blackjack wouldn't hold a charge for long. I believe that's in her convo w/Lee.

Why wouldn't she have just gotten another battery though? I've had a phone that wouldn't hold a charge, and I got a new battery, and voila! It worked--much cheaper than buying a brand new phone too . . .

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 02:25 PM
I kept hearing about her having an evaluation before being released on bond. Didn't she already have one of those a while back or am I wrong?

Leonard Padilla kept talking about that on NG on Monday night.

liltigress
08-20-2008, 02:26 PM
IF she had 2 phones with 2 numbers I wonder if one was used for work..if you know what I mean? I know there has been speculation of her being an operator if ya know what I mean.

That's a very plausible thought. I've thunk it plenty of times too! lol..

Every time I hear someone go into so much detail about something so minute, I have to wonder how damning the truth really is.

IE:
Cindy and the bamboo...
George and the gas cans...
Cindy and the pizza...
George and the Arm & Hammer...
Casey and the SIM card...

and so on and so on and so on.. KWIM?

Blondieskatz
08-20-2008, 02:26 PM
My dh has a Blackjack and she said they do use sims cards.

Bree0372
08-20-2008, 02:27 PM
Now wouldn't THAT be an interesting tidbit to know for sure! Not another lie??!! Couldn't be??:rolleyes:

I just googled it and found this:

"Unlocking your Blackjack cell phone will give the ability to put the SIM card from any carrier in it so you can use on their network. This will let you use the incredible Blackjack on Sprint if you want too."

However, didn't Casey say she only used her Blackjack for a week and a half or so because it wouldn't hold charge? Do we know when she purchased the Blackjack?

Katie526
08-20-2008, 02:27 PM
Some guy on this Topix board claims to be Cindy's brother. Here is one of his posts.
http://www.topix.net/forum/county/orange-fl/T4UHQV6DMIUFOA9C5/p773


You are a stupid, stupid man. Someone put my name and address on the other post 2 days ago when I revealed who I was. I don't care to have my last name put out there. Give me your email address and I will send you some of my pix from my wedding where my sister and Casey were present. I understand you right to be skeptacle but if you knew the Anthony family you would know that she has 3 brothers and that I am the one that lives in Myrtle Beach, SC. What is you affiliation with the Anthony's? You really know nothing of them except what you see on TV. I don't want my picture on TV. As a family member I am ashamed that this happened to someone in MY family. I wouldn't ever have imagined anything so terrible happing to even anyone that I know let alone my family. I love my sister and feel bad for her. i in know way badmouthed her. I only filled in the blanks as to what I know to be true on what happened. This has been hard on all of us family members and has nearly killed what is left of my father. My mom and dad have to be on sedatives as they are so upset. My dad is 85 years old and has had a stroke. He was doing okay until this happened. Mom can't even talk to Cindy any more as Cindy won't talk to family anymore. They are hurting very much. I am not seeking fame or fortune from this. I am embarressed by all of this as it is. There are some really kind people on this blog. I was only trying to give them some back ground on this situation. The police have tons of information that they won't release to the public. They suspect that Caylee is dead as there is NO evidence of a babysitter. I ask Cindy to show me one person who has ever seen the sitter other than Casey and I will believe you. I begged her to just tell me that someone could verify a babysitter. She couldn't!

Mendara
08-20-2008, 02:27 PM
I think we are well past the babysitter at this point. Michael Walsh, Leonard Padilla, Baez, George are spilling the next set of lies. No one in the camp has mentioned ZG in over 11 days I believe.

Wow. that is VERY interesting. No more ZANNY talk.

MIMOMMY
08-20-2008, 02:27 PM
ok so it does take a sim (via AT&T) but the sim is only compatible with other blackjacks

ketel0ne
08-20-2008, 02:27 PM
ok.. courtesy of PATTY G, here is the youtube (be prepared, not great but we are all looking for the original footage showing them arriving in direct feed mode..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNt-i1er75w

Putting aside Seriously's crush on YM, ahem, notice that when they arrive George comes out of the garage, no hand shake, no eyes meeting.
This was not a planned meeting and it was important, imo..

Anyone can find the whole footage from their arrival and then departure, please post.. Also, Phil Keating reports they were there for 90 minutes, not the 45 some have reported, also would like clarification on that.

I think we should mail patty g a tripod :) that would make her life easier.

dunlurken
08-20-2008, 02:28 PM
blackjack is a cingular/at&t phone --- checking on SIM stats for it now
Thanks. I just googled it myself. It's nothing more than a phone with a keypad for text messaging.

Mendara
08-20-2008, 02:28 PM
My favorite part is where she leads the detectives down the yellow brick road all the way to her office at Universal and suddenly "oops... hehehe.. I don't really work here..." just UNREAL

What did her mommy say about this? That she often sleep walks and thinks she works at places she doesn't and they often wonder where SHE AT.

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 02:28 PM
I think we just cracked this case wide open:eek:

:clap::clap::woohoo::clap::clap:

Blondieskatz
08-20-2008, 02:28 PM
Why wouldn't she have just gotten another battery though? I've had a phone that wouldn't hold a charge, and I got a new battery, and voila! It worked--much cheaper than buying a brand new phone too . . .

Hmmm, this is Casey we're talking about, it would be hard for me to make sense out of her actions. Yep, you or me we'd get a new battery, Casey not so sure. :crazy:

STEADFAST
08-20-2008, 02:28 PM
Okay, you put a big smile on your face and go into the room Casey is in. And you say, "I have got the best news you could hear! Guess what!"

And see which she says: "You found Caylee!!" or "I'm getting out!!!"

Blink34
08-20-2008, 02:28 PM
Ha! I'm still hung up on WWYMD.

What Would Yo Mama Do? LOL

LOL, it is What Would Yuri Melich DO... The lead investigator in this case.

Seriously usually uses WWMFD, her old flame, What would Mark Fuhrman Do- but he has apparently been kicked to the curb.. surmising he dared disagree with her or something, told her to find a link.. can't remember..

dontbreakme
08-20-2008, 02:29 PM
Newbie here..

I think Casey isn't upset/distraught over the fact that her child is missing because she isn't MISSING HER. She could care less about this child. I don't have children myself but I'd like to think I'd show a heck of a lot more concern and interest in my child than myself if I were in her shoes! Caylee is missing to the rest of the world, not Casey. Casey knows exactly where she is and that's whatever location she put her. I really hope this case gets a break soon or someone breaks HER to spill the beans. Crazy wacko....

That BH is nuts too. If Casey didn't show any interest in saying a dang word for 31 days before anyone found out, while she was out partying, living it up, nails done, hair did etc, why would she now? Give me a break.

GA2FL_Girl
08-20-2008, 02:29 PM
blackjack is a cingular/at&t phone --- checking on SIM stats for it now

Att/ Cingular sim cards have your info- your cell phone number and your a contact lists saved on them so if she was moving a (1)one sim between (2) two phones then it is one number. when someone calls her number which ever phone has the sim at that time would ring

JMO

SeriouslySearching
08-20-2008, 02:29 PM
You all are makin' me feel old.

This is o/t, but for those of us out-of-the-know, would someone mind posting, or is there a post you can direct me to, with a glossary of the acronyms commonly used here.

Thanks-a-mil.I started a whole thread for that for the newbies long ago! I had to dig for it....but here you go: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2476707#post2476707

imnotheonlyone
08-20-2008, 02:30 PM
I kept hearing about her having an evaluation before being released on bond. Didn't she already have one of those a while back or am I wrong?

There was an order for a Psychological Evaluation, and then a separate (more recent) order appointing experts to perform a Competency Evaluation - I'm guessing that this was ordered DUE TO the findings of the Psych Eval?

Blondieskatz
08-20-2008, 02:30 PM
Yes, my dh just gor a new razor and switched her card out of the blackjack to transfer the phone numbers to the new phone.

LiveLoveLaughLiza
08-20-2008, 02:30 PM
[QUOTE=Katie526;2527634]Some guy on this Topix board claims to be Cindy's brother. Here is one of his posts.
http://www.topix.net/forum/county/orange-fl/T4UHQV6DMIUFOA9C5/p773


*snip*QUOTE]

Wow!!! If that really is Cindy's brother.....and sad if it is too. Casey and her actions have broken more hearts than she will ever realize (not that she cares:mad:)

sleuthmommy
08-20-2008, 02:31 PM
I just googled it and found this:

"Unlocking your Blackjack cell phone will give the ability to put the SIM card from any carrier in it so you can use on their network. This will let you use the incredible Blackjack on Sprint if you want too."

However, didn't Casey say she only used her Blackjack for a week and a half or so because it wouldn't hold charge? Do we know when she purchased the Blackjack?

Boy, Blackjacks aren't cheap. Must be nice to be able to not work but still be able to afford one and then to just toss it away since it no longer 'works'........