View Full Version : Emily Nialyn Manion Machado, 3, Berwyn, IL
teonspaleprincess
08-25-2008, 08:29 PM
I got a friends request today on my missing/unidentified myspace. I clicked on to read the profile because the little girl he was using as his default picture was breathtakingly beautiful. He claims that his ex took off with his daughter and he has received no help in trying to get her back. I asked for more info and he gave it to me, including moms birthdate and name and some of her relatives names and the date that the mother left with the child. How do I go about verifying his story and/or helping him to track her down?
Here is the myspace link http://www.myspace.com/daddyandemily
I also found this, so it seems as if he is legit: http://www.findemilymachado.com/
TopGunner
08-25-2008, 09:47 PM
Wow t., you'll have to keep us posted. Unfortunately I don't know where/how you can check, but I know there are lots of others here that can help.:blowkiss:
Tranaice
08-26-2008, 04:52 PM
I don't know either, but I'm bumping this back up to the top so that someone that does know what to do can help.
Anita Richman
08-26-2008, 08:17 PM
Hi Tranaice, I looked at his myspace page and it looks legit, but what the heck do I know? Sad, if it's true.
I'd forward it to a mod., I am sure they have a special process to add a case to a specific forum. They might even have more information about this case!
Good luck! She is a beautiful little girl!
Cubby
08-26-2008, 08:48 PM
Teons, I would first verify that he has a custody or visitation agreement granting him access to the child. Should be in his divorce decree. I'd then verify with the county that it is current. I'm not sure they would give that info, but..... If he was never married and never filed for visitation then he needs to do that, as he would not have any legal claims. Hope that makes sense.
This link has been suggested by parents who have had a parent kidnap their child. This may provide some additional info as well.
http://www.deltabravo.net/
ETA: Teons, I am in IL too and not far from Berwyn. pm me if I can be of help.
Cubby
08-26-2008, 09:13 PM
David Thelan at this group also helps fathers with abducted children.
He's worked with a few parents I know of... He might also be of help.
http://www.findthekids.org/
teonspaleprincess
08-27-2008, 08:50 AM
Thanks everyone.
Cubby, I sent the dad the links that you gave me. I hope to hear back from him soon.
Cubby
08-27-2008, 12:18 PM
thanks Teons, I shot off an email to my contacts in the FR area who are familiar with and have been through this. Hoping to get some assistance/direction from them. If she has taken the child out of the country he will have the Hague Convention... I still need to find the info on interstate parental kidnapping. Will post it when I do.
barb0301
08-27-2008, 12:56 PM
I got a friends request today on my missing/unidentified myspace. I clicked on to read the profile because the little girl he was using as his default picture was breathtakingly beautiful. He claims that his ex took off with his daughter and he has received no help in trying to get her back. I asked for more info and he gave it to me, including moms birthdate and name and some of her relatives names and the date that the mother left with the child. How do I go about verifying his story and/or helping him to track her down?
Here is the myspace link http://www.myspace.com/daddyandemily
I also found this, so it seems as if he is legit: http://www.findemilymachado.com/
I will contact him through my Baby Grace / Riley Ann Sawyers MySpace account also, and see what I can do to help him. I will see if he will forward me any of his legal papers that he speaks of in his post. I am sure that the group that has formed around Riley's case will help me in disemminating his info, this is the type of case that Grandma Sheryl is so worried about. This is exactly what happened in Riley's case, and unfortunately, we all know the tragic ending there. Poor Robert, Riley's dad, was never able to get any LE help on reporting Riley missing.
Thanks for posting this, and if you get any more info, please, please, let me know.
teonspaleprincess
08-27-2008, 02:36 PM
Here is a list of local media in the area where Emily went missing. Maybe if enough people called or e-mailed about the story, they would at least write a short piece about it.
Hmmm...I could have sworn I posted them. I have to go look them up again.
Cubby
08-27-2008, 03:34 PM
Here is the link for the parental kidnapping prevention act.
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/pkpa.php
He needs a missing persons report filed. Barb, can the group your mentioned above help with that? I know Kelly from Project Jason has been able to help in the past when LE refused. Maybe he should contact her?
For some reason, the last name Machado looks familiar to me. From where I don't know, I searched my yahoo SP forum and wasn't there..... :waitasec:
barb0301
08-27-2008, 03:46 PM
Here is the link for the parental kidnapping prevention act.
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/pkpa.php
He needs a missing persons report filed. Barb, can the group your mentioned above help with that? I know Kelly from Project Jason has been able to help in the past when LE refused. Maybe he should contact her?
For some reason, the last name Machado looks familiar to me. From where I don't know, I searched my yahoo SP forum and wasn't there..... :waitasec:
I'm actually talking to him online at MySpace right now. I am going to send him to Kelly, thanks for that suggestion. I don't know if my group can help with that right now, but we are getting organized to be able to do so. We are going to file for business license and 501(c)3 shortly.
I'll update when I get more info from him.
teonspaleprincess
08-27-2008, 04:15 PM
You two are wonderful.:blowkiss:
barb0301
08-27-2008, 04:32 PM
I just got off the phone with Michael....poor guy.
I was able to look up his court records, and he has indeed been granted custody of his daughter. However, the police are refusing to file a missing person case. Very, very strange. I am going to do whatever I can to help him, but I think right now, the police are really intimidating him. Really, really ticks me off big time, especially knowing what happened in Riley's case.
I am going to forward him every link i know of to help him. I have given him my contact info, etc. and will be speaking to him often. will keep you updated.
Cubby
08-27-2008, 04:38 PM
Hiya Barb. I can only imagine Cook Counties finest are being complete jerks. If he has in fact been granted custody then yes he needs a missing persons report. I am going to pm you.
christine2448
08-27-2008, 05:16 PM
Someone pm'd and asked me to stop by here.
My first thought, CALL CUBBY! I see she is here...second thought, DAVID THELAN, I see Cubby has already mentioned.
I went throught this very exact same thing personally...also we (WS/LTWH) just went through this with the Cook case, solved now and reunite coming.
What is the status with Dad making a report?
Is anyone here actually SPEAKING with Dad? If not, get me his email and I will send him my tele, if you have my tele just send it on and tell him it's OK to call.
I won this with help of my local reps/senators....they proved to LE there WAS a law in place were the SO could NOT take my son EVEN if I DID NOT have temp custody yet (which I did)...I will share the news articles (2) privately for those that want to view, email me.
barb0301
08-27-2008, 05:24 PM
Hi Christine,
Thansk for stopping by. I talked to him via phone about an hour ago. Poor guy is really getting the run around. LE has now told him he can not post any flyers or MySpace/websites reporting the child missing...WTH??
He is really, really getting the run around. Lawyer is going to drop his case, due to lack of funds. If you want to look at the court records, I'll send you a pm on how to check them out. I told him he had a strong case.
I would like you to talk to him, so I'll get his e-mail. I have his and his sister's phone numbers.
Thanks,
Barb
Someone pm'd and asked me to stop by here.
My first thought, CALL CUBBY! I see she is here...second thought, DAVID THELAN, I see Cubby has already mentioned.
I went throught this very exact same thing personally...also we (WS/LTWH) just went through this with the Cook case, solved now and reunite coming.
What is the status with Dad making a report?
Is anyone here actually SPEAKING with Dad? If not, get me his email and I will send him my tele, if you have my tele just send it on and tell him it's OK to call.
I won this with help of my local reps/senators....they proved to LE there WAS a law in place were the SO could NOT take my son EVEN if I DID NOT have temp custody yet (which I did)...I will share the news articles (2) privately for those that want to view, email me.
Cubby
08-27-2008, 08:34 PM
Christine, will you update when you have spoken with him?
Update from my end.
1)Ray Akron/Pace (fathers rights activist) looking into legal issues with Mike posting his daughters info online. He is good with the law stuff and believes Mike can post per his 1st ammendment right.
2)Teri Stoddard -Fathers rights activist/ shared parenting works and jugsforjustice (yes they are covered) added to her blog and sent out to all her groups.. requesting info be forwarded world wide.
3)another Barbara- I'm not familiar with her- maybe an NCP?- but some kind of advocay, but she added to her myspace and sent a friends request to mike.
4)I suggested someone contact Glenn Sacks ( yes, he gets on my last nerve at times) a fathers rights activist with both a blog and radio show.
I am hoping to hear from Karl Hindle in a few days... and once we get that missing persons report we can move forward.
Copy of Teri's post- with her permission. The other Emily, is Emily Rose Hindle. Her father Karl Hindle is in the process of fighting the custody order jurisdiction between the States and his hometown in England.
Another Emily Missing, Have You Seen Her? (please forward worldwide)
(please forward worldwide)my jugsforjustice website (link right below) post
includes two videos
Another Emily Missing, Have You Seen
Her?<http://www.jugsforjustice.org/wordpress/?p=128 (http://www.jugsforjustice.org/wordpress/?p=128)> ¦®
*August 27th, 2008* | **
[image: emily is missing and
endangered]<http://www.jugsforjustice.org/wordpress/wp-content/emily88.jpg (http://www.jugsforjustice.org/wordpress/wp-content/emily88.jpg)>
MISSING PERSON!
*Emily Nialyn Manion Machado <http://www.findemilymachado.com/Home_Page.php (http://www.findemilymachado.com/Home_Page.php)>
*(click name for more info)*
<http://www.findemilymachado.com/Home_Page.php (http://www.findemilymachado.com/Home_Page.php)>*
CALL Sheirly Dworkin @ 312-759-8080, Father's Lawyer
Emily Nialyn Manion Machado
Missing From: Berwyn, IL
Date Missing: March 28, 2008
Date of Birth: August 24, 2005
Age: 3
Sex: Female
Height: 3¡ì0¡í
Weight: 25 lbs
Eyes: Light Blue
Hair: blond. Wears her hair down mostly. It's curly when down but when its
up, her hair is straight
Race: White/Hispanic
Emily has 2 pierced ears.
CIRCUMSTANCES
Emily was taken by her mother who fled the country with her. Emily may not
be ajusting to well where ever she is.
E-Mail The Family - Show them your support: findemilymachado@... (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SINGLE-PARENTS-/post?postID=57QGK-t9l6md3CNIrUtgQ_iO_xGyEg04Asf4QbMr4gsszrYxF6m2B5tG ZwyNQq1aGOSij7n0ev0B_Rxua3GnJHGN)
Find Emily Machado myspace:
myspace.com/daddyandemily<http://www.http//myspace.com/daddyandemily (http://www.http//myspace.com/daddyandemily)>
E-Mail the Father's sister: melissamanionjoshua@... (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SINGLE-PARENTS-/post?postID=AUtZC7WR11FcbA7tksDGjPJnxq5IzLjln5i4p5 lSBolQ7g2-9XPOLkuHq9pwQoqbRR3tjYlWcRGG-MpewkSrHOOXcO0)
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www.teristoddard.org
www.sharedparentingworks.org
www.jugsforjustice.org
When we accept tough jobs as a challenge to our ability and wade into
them with joy and enthusiasm, miracles can happen. -- Arland Gilbert
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barb0301
08-27-2008, 10:39 PM
Christine, will you update when you have spoken with him?
Update from my end.
1)Ray Akron/Pace (fathers rights activist) looking into legal issues with Mike posting his daughters info online. He is good with the law stuff and believes Mike can post per his 1st ammendment right.
2)Teri Stoddard -Fathers rights activist/ shared parenting works and jugsforjustice (yes they are covered) added to her blog and sent out to all her groups.. requesting info be forwarded world wide.
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:clap::clap::clap::clap: way to go cubby !! Thanks !!
Cubby
08-28-2008, 10:25 AM
YW Barbara.
Ray from Pace- Akron Ohio received the following email from Judianne Cochran. I'm posting here so whoever is in contact with Mike can pass this along to him. If need be, I can ask Ray how to contact Judianne.
I don't do myspace because it locks up my ancient computer.
thanks!
-----Original Message-----
From: pace-forum@yahoogroups.com (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SINGLE-PARENTS-/post?postID=p5fHf8cJhChHGS0CLgz5wolTHdtkHh2d0E0aaM mhNPr-FvNZkriM6u0_fM1JMx7SL5xpMQ5_DchG9Eynti0lsDY) [mailto:pace-forum@yahoogroups.com (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SINGLE-PARENTS-/post?postID=p5fHf8cJhChHGS0CLgz5wolTHdtkHh2d0E0aaM mhNPr-FvNZkriM6u0_fM1JMx7SL5xpMQ5_DchG9Eynti0lsDY)] On
Behalf Of judianne cochran
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 12:40 AM
To: pace-forum@yahoogroups.com (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SINGLE-PARENTS-/post?postID=p5fHf8cJhChHGS0CLgz5wolTHdtkHh2d0E0aaM mhNPr-FvNZkriM6u0_fM1JMx7SL5xpMQ5_DchG9Eynti0lsDY)
Subject: Re: [pace-forum] Need help for a dad. Fathers- Here is how we can
work together. (moms too)
This man should contact the Illinois Missing Children's Clearing House which
is a division of the Illinois State Police at 1-800-843-5763 . He can
explain his situation and they will give him assistance and direction. The
federal act....The Missing Children Assistance Act....requires that law
enforcement enter the child in the NCIC as a missing child upon report by
the parent. He should get several certified copies of his new temp order
(which is not a default entry but rather an ex-parte emergency relief
order). Sometimes there is difficulty getting a warrant since it was
entered after the fact of the child's abduction, but he should be able to
get a missing entry. Once he has that, there are then some other steps
which will include filing a case with the National Center for Missing &
Exploited Children. He also needs to understand that until and unless he
has a warrant, though, he will not be able to have mom's pictures on any
posters whether from NCMEC or the Clearing House.
Since he has the order he shouldn't have any need for the attorney at this
time so it is of no importance if the attorney is "quitting him". The
attorney can be of no use to him until & unless the child is recovered and
the mom files for some custody rights. Illinois also has a criminal
interference with custody law pertaining to "unlawful visitation
interference" (720 Ill. Comp. Stat 5/10-5.5 (revised in 2001 which is a
class A misdemeanor, so the original violation should have been useful for
him.) in addition to the usual criminal custodial interference law, found at
720 Ill. Comp. Stat. 5/10-5 (Class 3 or 4 felony).
Illinois law 325 Ill. com. Stat 40/7 also requires that there is NO waiting
period for investigation of a missing child case.
The police jurisdiction handling a case has to be the jurisdiction from
where the child was removed. Cook County is not a suburb....Chicago is Cook
County. If the child was living in a suburb, then that suburban police
department is where he needs to go to file the report. If the child lived
in Chicago, then he should go to the Chicago Police, Juvenile or Missing
Person's Division, and ask to speak with a detective. If he is just
attempting to use the desk sergeant or patrol, he won't get anywhere. The
Clearing House might be able to give him a direct contact.
I would imagine that if he had a decent attorney the court ordered that law
enforcement assist him in recovering the child. That is standard for
Illinois ex-parte orders in these cases.
You can send him running to all kinds of names out there, but the above is
the appropriate process for him. I have been dealing with Illinois cases
for 25 + years and this dad is just spinning his wheels unless he gets
himself to the appropriate people in his own jurisdiction.
barb0301
08-28-2008, 11:05 AM
Thank you again Cubby !! I have sent this on to Michael, and hope to hear from him soon. I had given him some info yesterday that he was going to check into w/ his lawyer this morning. Hopefully, it may lead to a missing person report quickly. If not, this information should do it for him. He has certainly been failed by LE up to this point !!
teonspaleprincess
08-28-2008, 11:17 AM
I cannot express how awed I am by you all. It just amazes me how quickly you jump in to help when someone needs you. It does me good to know that there are wonderful people like you all out there.
barb0301
08-28-2008, 11:32 AM
I cannot express how awed I am by you all. It just amazes me how quickly you jump in to help when someone needs you. It does me good to know that there are wonderful people like you all out there.
And I would say the same about you !! If not for you, none of us would know about this young man who is so desperately in need of help. Thanks for giving us the opportunity to try to help him and his beautiful young daughter !! :blowkiss:
Cubby
08-28-2008, 12:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by teonspaleprincess http://websleuths.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2571189#post2571189)
I cannot express how awed I am by you all. It just amazes me how quickly you jump in to help when someone needs you. It does me good to know that there are wonderful people like you all out there.
Barb: And I would say the same about you !! If not for you, none of us would know about this young man who is so desperately in need of help. Thanks for giving us the opportunity to try to help him and his beautiful young daughter !! :blowkiss:
Ditto to you both! I am in awe of you both as well! :blowkiss:
I'm hoping to hear good news that Mike has his missing persons report for his daughter soon!
Cubby
08-28-2008, 12:39 PM
Update from Barb.
Mike called the clearing house and was refered back to Berwyn PD. She also sent me a tele to contact Mike. I will be calling Ray this afternoon to see if I can get a tele for Judianne. I will also be calling Christine and Mike, maybe we can do a 3 way call.
If necessary, I will also drive to Berwyn and accompany him to the PD to get this filed.... I am only about 30-40 min away with traffic. (not many miles, just the crazy Chicago/Burb traffic around here.- Rush hour almost 24-7)
Will update again later.
believe09
08-28-2008, 09:47 PM
I see that barb indicated that Mike has custody now of his child-so here are my thoughts, and you can cross off what has already been done:
1.) Bring the paperwork indicating the change in the custody to Berwyn PD with a print out of the law and politely request a missing person's report be filed.
2.) If he is refused, he should politely request the desk sergeant or captain on duty-or even a victims advocate-whoever he can get to.
3.) If he does not obtain satisfaction from Berwyn, I would make two calls-one to the State Police with a request that they investigate why Berwyn will not take the report. The other to the closest DA's office. Again he should explain he knows the law and that he now has physical custody of his daughter.
I am assuming that the orders came with a bench warrant because she failed to appear and was in contempt of court? We need to know if she gets pulled over or her ID is checked by an employer that the warrant will come up as attached to her...know what I mean?
Does he have an attorney that assisted him in obtaining the change in custody? He needs to invest the 75-100.00/letter to get the attorney to help him out with some of this.
The PD's view is simply that this is a domestic-the custodial parent left the state with the child, and the non custodial parent has limited avenues. Custody was changed after the fact, but unless you can convince someone that your child is endangered (ah-hem...are you catching the emphasis) by the mother, you are battling up hill.
HONESTLY- our best bet is to find her and we have 12K+ sleuthers who can do that. Then Mike can get her served with all of the papers using someone in the county where she is residing. It might run him another 100.00. If he finds her, he can find PI's all over who might donate some of their time to watch her, or he can get the local PD to help him reclaim his child.....
Cubby
08-28-2008, 10:17 PM
I see that barb indicated that Mike has custody now of his child-so here are my thoughts, and you can cross off what has already been done:
1.) Bring the paperwork indicating the change in the custody to Berwyn PD with a print out of the law and politely request a missing person's report be filed.
His attorney sent the paperwork to Berwyn PD. He is being tossed back and forth between two people at LE. Each is telling him the other is responsible.
2.) If he is refused, he should politely request the desk sergeant or captain on duty-or even a victims advocate-whoever he can get to.
3.) If he does not obtain satisfaction from Berwyn, I would make two calls-one to the State Police with a request that they investigate why Berwyn will not take the report. The other to the closest DA's office. Again he should explain he knows the law and that he now has physical custody of his daughter.
I am assuming that the orders came with a bench warrant because she failed to appear and was in contempt of court? We need to know if she gets pulled over or her ID is checked by an employer that the warrant will come up as attached to her...know what I mean?
Does he have an attorney that assisted him in obtaining the change in custody? He needs to invest the 75-100.00/letter to get the attorney to help him out with some of this.
The PD's view is simply that this is a domestic-the custodial parent left the state with the child, and the non custodial parent has limited avenues. Custody was changed after the fact, but unless you can convince someone that your child is endangered (ah-hem...are you catching the emphasis) by the mother, you are battling up hill.
For our eyes and ears only, he told me this afternoon that LE told him they have been in contact with the childs mother. What does this tell me? Yes, it is a domestic issue, and since they have 'verified the child is ok according to them' they are going to ignore the custody order.
See below...*
HONESTLY- our best bet is to find her and we have 12K+ sleuthers who can do that. Then Mike can get her served with all of the papers using someone in the county where she is residing. It might run him another 100.00. If he finds her, he can find PI's all over who might donate some of their time to watch her, or he can get the local PD to help him reclaim his child.....
We can try this route. How do we get him to this point... He is talking about suing LE, getting Media there.... This, as with many cases, was a result of her cutting off visitation.
* I explained to him he needed to also contact the vital records office to verify that his name has been added to his daughters birth certificate. I too am a never married mom in IL. Way back in the day... I was advised to order one for my son BEFORE paternity was determined so I would have one without my sons fathers name. I did.... of course I have not hidden my son from his father, but I was able to fly to Vancouver in 2005 without my sons fathers written permission. ( He never filed for any rights but we get along...somewhat...) IF she has a copy of the BC without his name.. that could be bad for him. We can't assume she hasn't gone that route.
He is so angry right now I think he is really going to need to be calmed down first. Understand if he 'tough guy's-bad mouths'' LE he is going to be shooting himself in the foot in so many words. Ok, maybe being presumptious but have seen this too many times from the dads.
Cubby
08-28-2008, 10:23 PM
Did anyone get an email address for Mike? I missed getting one from him this afternoon. If so can you please send it to me via pm? thanks!
believe09
08-28-2008, 10:33 PM
We can try this route. How do we get him to this point... He is talking about suing LE, getting Media there.... This, as with many cases, was a result of her cutting off visitation.
* I explained to him he needed to also contact the vital records office to verify that his name has been added to his daughters birth certificate. I too am a never married mom in IL. Way back in the day... I was advised to order one for my son BEFORE paternity was determined so I would have one without my sons fathers name. I did.... of course I have not hidden my son from his father, but I was able to fly to Vancouver in 2005 without my sons fathers written permission. ( He never filed for any rights but we get along...somewhat...) IF she has a copy of the BC without his name.. that could be bad for him. We can't assume she hasn't gone that route.
He is so angry right now I think he is really going to need to be calmed down first. Understand if he 'tough guy's-bad mouths'' LE he is going to be shooting himself in the foot in so many words. Ok, maybe being presumptious but have seen this too many times from the dads.
Hmmmmm-they cannot ignore a custody order, it has to be enforced. If she is not in the state or the county, it is not their jurisdiction...then they can ignore it. If she is served with the papers indicating the change of custody, then the police wherever she is need to enforce the order as written....for example-I have a friend whose son's bio dad lives in Tenn. Until a few months ago, there was a standing set of orders for visitation. He sent a copy to our local police department, and then began demanding that a series of "well being" checks be done on his child. She would have to produce the child whenever a well being check request was made. These would coincide with every major holiday as well as the child's birthday. She recently was awarded sole custody/no visitation, so this nonsense has stopped. My point is that our local police department had to enforce the orders as they were written even though they were originally from out of state....
Now in cases where this claim has been made before to me, I have always demanded to see the papers myself. There is a loophole somewhere that is allowing LE to slip through. It is possible that the custody order he has is a temporary one-perhaps it is for shared legal instead of sole to him....do you see what I am saying?
If LE did a well being check on the child, and they know where she is, we can find her too.
Maybe she left to get away from him? Any domestics for the two of them?
Cubby
08-28-2008, 10:48 PM
??? Barb said she was able to view the custody order online. exparte. I have not seen them, but barb viewed them online with him.
I'm thinking... tiredly... his attorney isn't doing everything he or she can for him.
too tired to think about this more tonight.. will look at it again in the am.
believe09
08-28-2008, 11:52 PM
??? Barb said she was able to view the custody order online. exparte. I have not seen them, but barb viewed them online with him.
I'm thinking... tiredly... his attorney isn't doing everything he or she can for him.
too tired to think about this more tonight.. will look at it again in the am.
:blowkiss:Sleep-we will chat...
Idaho4Groenes
08-29-2008, 02:17 AM
I also received a message from this guy on MySpace. I've also seen the custody order. From what I've learned / been told, the reason the cops or whoever can't enfore it is because the mother took off when SHE had custody, and it wasn't changed until afterward. Also, the reason he can't put up flyers stating that she has been abducted is because she technically wasn't at the time.
This is one big giant mess right now. This guy seems really nice, but I really don't know what to think right now. He also told me...a week ago or so...that his phone was shut off and he wanted someone to pay his bill for him. So, unless someone broke down and is doing it for him, he's got something to straighten out. Also, I'm not accusing him of anything, but since the police aren't helping, how do we know that they don't have a reason for keeping the child away from him?
Just want to clarify that I am NOT accusing him of anything, just trying to put the pieces together. If it was as clear-cut as he says it is, he should be getting help from the police. And if it is that way, and they simply aren't helping, then we need to do something.
Cubby
08-29-2008, 04:27 AM
Fell asleep earlier. Woke up. My usual middle of the night up for a bit.
Where I am now confused. Did he have a visitation order prior to the mom taking off? What did he do to enforce the visitation order if anything? You know show up at designated pick up place, get receipt to prove time of arrival another for when he left. witnesses, police to acompany him for pick up The standards....
I'm now wondering if he did not do any of that and went immediately for the missing persons report and the ex parte custody order. that makes sense to me why le would not be helping with the missing persons report. BUT, according to Mike, he thinks LE HAS been in contact with his ex, so why then are they ignorning the custody order? IF he HAS custody, and she can be found then he goes with LE and gets his daughter right?
Then he and the childs mother hash it out and we make sure he has access to information to educate himself to his rights...
Custodial interference and visitation interference is a crime in Illinois.
Was trying to think of his name, it's Jeffrey Leving. He is a huge fathers rights atty in the Chicagoland area. I used to see his ads on TV all the time. Quite a succesful atty.
here is his site:
http://www.dadsrights.com/
hope that makes sense, hoping to get back to sleep soon.
believe09
08-29-2008, 09:11 AM
Well we could do what we do in other cases-we call LE. Tell them we have been asked to help advocate the situation, but we want to know if we are getting the full story.
Mike and the attorney have to get her served with the new orders. So they need an address.
We can focus on that for him-I am sure he loves his daughter and misses her. But we don't know what the dynamics were that led up to this-if LE is protecting her and the child, then something is amiss IMO.
However-the ex parte order can be enforced, depending on how specifically it is written.
The thing is his attorney knows all of this too-at least Mike has representation. I know that Mom took off in March according to the website-when did he get his ex parte orders? Does anyone know when they are dated?
It would hurt me greatly if our Cubby spent her newly acquired strength running around for this poor man without having the whole picture.
believe09
08-29-2008, 09:16 AM
Fell asleep earlier. Woke up. My usual middle of the night up for a bit.
Where I am now confused. Did he have a visitation order prior to the mom taking off? What did he do to enforce the visitation order if anything? You know show up at designated pick up place, get receipt to prove time of arrival another for when he left. witnesses, police to acompany him for pick up The standards....
I'm now wondering if he did not do any of that and went immediately for the missing persons report and the ex parte custody order. that makes sense to me why le would not be helping with the missing persons report. BUT, according to Mike, he thinks LE HAS been in contact with his ex, so why then are they ignorning the custody order? IF he HAS custody, and she can be found then he goes with LE and gets his daughter right?
Then he and the childs mother hash it out and we make sure he has access to information to educate himself to his rights...
Custodial interference and visitation interference is a crime in Illinois.
Was trying to think of his name, it's Jeffrey Leving. He is a huge fathers rights atty in the Chicagoland area. I used to see his ads on TV all the time. Quite a succesful atty.
here is his site:
http://www.dadsrights.com/
hope that makes sense, hoping to get back to sleep soon.
Mom had sole custody-dad claims he had a visitation order. Most arrangements like this include a statement that neither party can relocate outside of 250 miles without written permission of the court. So maybe she is not more than 250 miles away?
Did anyone check out Mom and Dad to see if they have records? I do not have full names so I haven't been able to do it.
barb0301
08-29-2008, 10:07 AM
I also received a message from this guy on MySpace. I've also seen the custody order. From what I've learned / been told, the reason the cops or whoever can't enfore it is because the mother took off when SHE had custody, and it wasn't changed until afterward. Also, the reason he can't put up flyers stating that she has been abducted is because she technically wasn't at the time.
This is one big giant mess right now. This guy seems really nice, but I really don't know what to think right now. He also told me...a week ago or so...that his phone was shut off and he wanted someone to pay his bill for him. So, unless someone broke down and is doing it for him, he's got something to straighten out. Also, I'm not accusing him of anything, but since the police aren't helping, how do we know that they don't have a reason for keeping the child away from him?
Just want to clarify that I am NOT accusing him of anything, just trying to put the pieces together. If it was as clear-cut as he says it is, he should be getting help from the police. And if it is that way, and they simply aren't helping, then we need to do something.
Right now, Mike is using his cell phone (over his minutes), and his sister's phone. He has used all his money on his legal battle. He has posted his attorney's phone number on the website, and you can call her also for her story, which I believe.
According to the Parental Kidnapping Prevention Act, and the National Child Search Assistance Act, it shouldn't matter that she had custody before she went missing. They should still file a missing person report.
http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/pkpa.php
http://travel.state.gov/pdf/assistanceact1990.pdf (http://travel.state.gov/pdf/assistanceact1990.pdf)
LE has no right to decide the merits of one case or another. They are bound by law to file the report and investigate it and do all possible to find the child. If child custody is in question, then it is up to the civil courts to make a further determination on that. Up until that point, because the mother violated a court order by removing the child (which was not allowed under the child custody order), the custody of the child has been awarded to Mike. In addition, the court has seen fit to grant Mike a protective order for both him and Emily against the mother.
A fund is being set up, in Emily's name, controlled by the attorney, for help with legal funds. Mike is working part time and is a student. He is looking for full time employment.
ETA - Wowza, I just re-read my post, and realized I came off as pretty curt in this, and I apologize if anyone took it as that. I was in a hurry to get to the doc, and by no means was trying to be curt or short with anyone. So sorry if it came across like this. I agree 100% with needing to put the pieces together....after all, it is a child that is at stake here !! :blowkiss:
barb0301
08-29-2008, 10:12 AM
I am going to be gone to the doc for a while this morning. Here is what I would suggest, if you guys are willing to do so:
Cubby and Believe or Christine? can you guys get on a 3 way with his attorney and check out his story and see how you come away feeling? Right now, I feel this guy is in the right. I feel LE is doing what they do to a lot of fathers in "custody issues", and that is ignore them/brush them off. I hope I'm not wrong about him, but maybe I am. For a young kid of 23 to have spent so much time and money on trying to get/keep visitation rights with his daughter, and then get her back when mom disappears, I just don't get the feeling he's the "bad guy" here. I've been wrong before though !!
Barb
believe09
08-29-2008, 06:30 PM
Does anyone have his DOB? Is it in June 1985?
barb0301
08-29-2008, 06:58 PM
Does anyone have his DOB? Is it in June 1985?
I think it is in Aug 1985, but I am not 100% certain on this date. I have a call in to him to verify.
believe09
08-29-2008, 07:27 PM
UUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH-I cannot tell you why this case is bugging me so much, but my whatever meter is PINGING....I want to see the docs and talk to mom myself.....
I am waiting for LE to call me.
barb0301
08-29-2008, 07:44 PM
UUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH-I cannot tell you why this case is bugging me so much, but my whatever meter is PINGING....I want to see the docs and talk to mom myself.....
I am waiting for LE to call me.
LOL....I know. It's bugging the bejeepers out of me. If I hadn't been so involved in the fallout from the Baby Grace / Riley Ann Sawyers case, his story might not ring true at all to me. I now have a much different perspective on these types of cases though. Riley's dad and grandmother tried to file a missing person report and LE wouldn't do it, lawyer couldn't get them to do it, nothing. We all know what happened there. Even though Riley's mom's family was in contact w/her, she still ended up dead.
I am going to have Mike give his lawyer permission to send me all the paperwork next week. He has offered to share it with me. So far, he has been very open with me...I think. Even gave me his user name/password for his MySpace account.
Yesterday, he called me frantic because some teenager had told him on MySpace that her ex-bf had raped her. The ex-bf then contacted him and admitted to the rape. In the middle of all this going on w/Emily yesterday, Mike stopped and called the FBI, who didn't know what he was talking about. He called me and asked how to help get protection for this teenage girl? I've now made some reports and am waiting to hear back. I've seen the postings/messages/profiles, etc. in that story. Everything Mike told me on that one was true.
i don't know, maybe my soft heart is getting the best of me. I'm trying to take a look at the big picture. I am usually a big backer of LE, but in this case, I can't help but feel they may be in the wrong here.
Cubby
08-29-2008, 07:55 PM
Ok everyone.. Here is one more thought.... perhaps we could be of assistance to 'mediate' between Mike and Emily's mom.... that may be a waste of time, but I hate seeing a parent denied access to their child IF that parent is not a threat to the child.
As a never married single mother myself, I can verify that most of the support forums for single parents are exclusively female. Most are NOT father friendly. Many encourage NOT to file for cs because it gives fathers rights.... This is ESPECIALLY true for never married parents. I saw it at babycenter and at a few other forums. IT wasn't until I joined Teri Stoddards SP forum on yahoo that my thoughts changed and she was an instrumental part in helping my sons father and I work together. She gave me the guys perspective after my influence on those 'other' forums. ETA: Yes, she can still get on my last nerve at times being somewhat more on the 'extreme' left of the FR stuff, as she is a member of Fathers 4 Justice.. and some of the more out there FR groups. i do NOT want to influence Mike with that stuff... they are an angry group.
Also, that Judianne who sent the email that I posted earlier has 25 or so years with mediator experience in IL. We can keep her in mind if nec. Not sure where in IL she is, but if she is not in the area she acn certainly refer us to someone in Mikes area.
I have to say, until we have facts to prove otherwise I am going to keep an open mind on this one, but by all means we should research it to make sure we are not being duped.
thanks!
barb0301
08-29-2008, 08:01 PM
I like this Cubby. If we can locate mom, I would like to hear her side also. I like the mediator idea. I hate the idea of any child being denied a parent unless they are an abusive parent.
I have a 25 year old daughter, mom to my 2 1/2 year old granddaughter. She's divorced, and was before the baby was born. Hubby and I have had to mediate several times. No matter how mad I have been at baby's dad at times, he does love his daughter, and she needs him in her life. There is no way I would support my daughter refusing to let dad see his baby, unless there was abuse and then I would fight tooth and nail to make sure he didn't have access to her.
Like you, I am going to keep an open mind. Right now, LE is sure putting the pressure on Mike to discontinue his fight to get Emily back.
Ok everyone.. Here is one more thought.... perhaps we could be of assistance to 'mediate' between Mike and Emily's mom.... that may be a waste of time, but I hate seeing a parent denied access to their child IF that parent is not a threat to the child.
As a never married single mother myself, I can verify that most of the support forums for single parents are exclusively female. Most are NOT father friendly. Many encourage NOT to file for cs because it gives fathers rights.... This is ESPECIALLY true for never married parents. I saw it at babycenter and at a few other forums. IT wasn't until I joined Teri Stoddards SP forum on yahoo that my thoughts changed and she was an instrumental part in helping my sons father and I work together. She gave me the guys perspective after my influence on those 'other' forums. ETA: Yes, she can still get on my last nerve at times being somewhat more on the 'extreme' left of the FR stuff, as she is a member of Fathers 4 Justice.. and some of the more out there FR groups. i do NOT want to influence Mike with that stuff... they are an angry group.
Also, that Judianne who sent the email that I posted earlier has 25 or so years with mediator experience in IL. We can keep her in mind if nec. Not sure where in IL she is, but if she is not in the area she acn certainly refer us to someone in Mikes area.
I have to say, until we have facts to prove otherwise I am going to keep an open mind on this one, but by all means we should research it to make sure we are not being duped.
thanks!
Cubby
08-30-2008, 10:53 PM
Based on Cook County court records it appears he has sole physical custody because his child support order was terminated as well. It would not have been if he was only granted legal custody.
Also, the mother has NOT filed anything against him.(No DV issues...) He initiated paternity, child support AND visitation HIMSELF. It appears at one point either she or her attorney attempted to have paternity request vacated.
How do we find her so Mike can have her served? Mom sounds like a nut case, who retaliated against mike for filing for a decrease in child support- which was granted- and I am assuming that has to do with his furthering his education to be able to better support his daughter. So, it looks like Mom is withholding Emily based on Child Support- which happens ALL too often, and uh, is illegal.
Custodial interference in IL is illegal. Mike has TWO routes here and imo he needs to pursue both the custodial interference and the missing persons report.
Cubby
08-30-2008, 10:57 PM
I like this Cubby. If we can locate mom, I would like to hear her side also. I like the mediator idea. I hate the idea of any child being denied a parent unless they are an abusive parent.
I have a 25 year old daughter, mom to my 2 1/2 year old granddaughter. She's divorced, and was before the baby was born. Hubby and I have had to mediate several times. No matter how mad I have been at baby's dad at times, he does love his daughter, and she needs him in her life. There is no way I would support my daughter refusing to let dad see his baby, unless there was abuse and then I would fight tooth and nail to make sure he didn't have access to her.
Like you, I am going to keep an open mind. Right now, LE is sure putting the pressure on Mike to discontinue his fight to get Emily back.
This just steams me. Who are they to make that determination? They have NO right... Mike should ask for that in writing and then sue them for discrimination. when does LE get to decide fathers should NOT have custody? :furious:
barb0301
08-31-2008, 12:04 AM
Based on Cook County court records it appears he has sole physical custody because his child support order was terminated as well. It would not have been if he was only granted legal custody.
Also, the mother has NOT filed anything against him.(No DV issues...) He initiated paternity, child support AND visitation HIMSELF. It appears at one point either she or her attorney attempted to have paternity request vacated.
How do we find her so Mike can have her served? Mom sounds like a nut case, who retaliated against mike for filing for a decrease in child support- which was granted- and I am assuming that has to do with his furthering his education to be able to better support his daughter. So, it looks like Mom is withholding Emily based on Child Support- which happens ALL too often, and uh, is illegal.
Custodial interference in IL is illegal. Mike has TWO routes here and imo he needs to pursue both the custodial interference and the missing persons report.
Well, it looks like we're at least reading the court record the same way. I just can't get over this case...it's bugging the heck out of me. :furious::furious:
Mike is speaking to another attorney about filing a lawsuit against the PD and any/all other government agencies that refuse to help him on Tue (forgot Monday was a holiday). Attorney seems to be very interested in his case. It would be on a contingency basis, which is good for Mike, no money out of his pocket.
In the meantime, I don't know how to go about finding the mom, without a PI, and he has no funds for a PI. He is already in the hole with the current attorney, and as you can see by the court records, has spent thousands on trying to do what is right and be a father to this child. Geez, and so many young men try to avoid it at all costs. Along comes a young man that tries to do the right thing, and by all I can tell, he's getting the royal you know what.
Cubby
08-31-2008, 12:16 AM
Well, it looks like we're at least reading the court record the same way. I just can't get over this case...it's bugging the heck out of me. :furious::furious:
Mike is speaking to another attorney about filing a lawsuit against the PD and any/all other government agencies that refuse to help him on Tue (forgot Monday was a holiday). Attorney seems to be very interested in his case. It would be on a contingency basis, which is good for Mike, no money out of his pocket.
In the meantime, I don't know how to go about finding the mom, without a PI, and he has no funds for a PI. He is already in the hole with the current attorney, and as you can see by the court records, has spent thousands on trying to do what is right and be a father to this child. Geez, and so many young men try to avoid it at all costs. Along comes a young man that tries to do the right thing, and by all I can tell, he's getting the royal you know what.
Mike is going to need to give us whatever info he can to help find her. Friends, family, extended family. Does she work? Is she a sahm? Who watches the child if she works? Her family most likely.... The custody order is for Emily, so if she is with family, LE can still come and get her with Mike and the Custody papers no? Her email, myspace. EVERYTHING he can think of so we can sleuth.
If she is no longer in Cook and in the area, another border county it might be a blessing for Mike that LE in another county would cooperate.
I also believe at this point media pressure is in order. Glenn Sacks has a place on his site someone can request his assistance in 100-200 words max or it will not be read. I will put something together, the link and sent it to you so you can forward it to Mike and Mike can attempt to contact Sacks himself. I'm sure Sacks would JUMP on this story, especially that LE is trying to convince a CUSTODIAL father to give up his search for the child his ex is hiding.
Sacks LOVES those kind of twists and we have the court info to back it up!
barb0301
08-31-2008, 10:52 AM
I'll call Mike today....hopefully, my meds will stay balanced...ugh on yesterday.
I'll ask him to provide all the info he can, and send you all the private stuff via pm. I don't want to violate any TOS by posting here, know what I mean? Anyone else that wants it, lemme know.
I think he's more than willing to share what he has. I think Glenn Sacks is a great idea.
Mike and I even made a contingency plan in case he gets arrested for some unknown reason...he's down to even worrying about that now. I don't know if it's only because of the messages he's getting or because of specific messages from LE, but I will find out. If it's because of e-mail, MySpace messages, he needs to ignore them. If it's because of LE statements, he needs to be more concerned.
Thanks Cubby !! You're a dream !!
Salem
08-31-2008, 02:14 PM
I cannot express how awed I am by you all. It just amazes me how quickly you jump in to help when someone needs you. It does me good to know that there are wonderful people like you all out there.
Oh! Ditto! :clap::clap::clap::clap:
I just got to this thread this morning and I am just crying at your generosity, helpfulness, caring and compassion!
:blowkiss: You truely inspire me!
Salem
I'm sending prayers to all and especially to baby Emily!
Cubby
08-31-2008, 06:19 PM
We have passed along the info for the Illinois chapter of the ACLU to Mike. Hopefully he will be contacting them Tuesday.
I've pm'd Kelly with Project Jason to see what assistance she can offer.
I'll be putting together a letter for Mike to contact Glenn Sacks either later today or sometime Monday.
Berwyn PD has NO right to decide whether or not to enforce a custody order or whether or not a father should have custody, and not take a missing persons report. They NEED to do the RIGHT thing and ENFORCE THE LAW, SERVE AND PROTECT as the OATH they took!
Kelly
08-31-2008, 08:12 PM
Hello,
I had been in contact with the father many weeks ago and gave him my advise which included contacting parental abduction (PA) experts at NCMEC and going to the state clearinghouse.
We are not PA experts so feel this case is out of our realm and that it was not to us to determine that local LE have wronged him and take or advise action against them.
So, in our case, pointing him to the experts is what what we could do. I truly hope that if he has been wronged, this will be reversed.
We, unfortunately, don't have the manpower and training in PA cases to do more than that on that case.
Thanks,
Kelly
teonspaleprincess
08-31-2008, 08:22 PM
Oh! Ditto! :clap::clap::clap::clap:
I just got to this thread this morning and I am just crying at your generosity, helpfulness, caring and compassion!
:blowkiss: You truely inspire me!
Salem
I'm sending prayers to all and especially to baby Emily!
:blowkiss: Thank you. Hearing this has made my day.
Cubby
08-31-2008, 08:30 PM
Oh! Ditto! :clap::clap::clap::clap:
I just got to this thread this morning and I am just crying at your generosity, helpfulness, caring and compassion!
:blowkiss: You truely inspire me!
Salem
I'm sending prayers to all and especially to baby Emily!
Thank you! Hopefully we will get this resolved soon.
I have a neighbor who is a state trooper. I am going to ask him what he suggests next time I see him.
I also have a 'Rookie' for my local PD who lives across the wall in my same building. He hasn't been particularly neighborly so I won't bother him. I think him being new in LE, he just doesn't want to get too chummy with the neighbors which I understand, lol.
I'll also call our former neighborhood watch officer who I have great rapport with later this week when he is back after the holiday weekend.
:blowkiss:
believe09
09-02-2008, 12:53 PM
Hi, guys-I left a second message with the detective in charge of missing persons. I explained that I was trying to "vet" Michael's story and would appreciate his input as soon as possible.
Can someone PM me the names of the two detectives/police officers who have been passing the case back and forth between them? I can call them today as well....I am an objective 3rd party who takes meticulous notes, so if they are making spurious allegations, I can make a record of it.
Still on the fence, but willing to be wrong!!
Cubby
09-02-2008, 01:58 PM
Hello,
I had been in contact with the father many weeks ago and gave him my advise which included contacting parental abduction (PA) experts at NCMEC and going to the state clearinghouse.
We are not PA experts so feel this case is out of our realm and that it was not to us to determine that local LE have wronged him and take or advise action against them.
So, in our case, pointing him to the experts is what what we could do. I truly hope that if he has been wronged, this will be reversed.
We, unfortunately, don't have the manpower and training in PA cases to do more than that on that case.
Thanks,
Kelly
Thank you for replying Kelly. I missed this yesterday. :blowkiss:
Cubby
09-02-2008, 02:45 PM
Hi, guys-I left a second message with the detective in charge of missing persons. I explained that I was trying to "vet" Michael's story and would appreciate his input as soon as possible.
Can someone PM me the names of the two detectives/police officers who have been passing the case back and forth between them? I can call them today as well....I am an objective 3rd party who takes meticulous notes, so if they are making spurious allegations, I can make a record of it.
Still on the fence, but willing to be wrong!!
I have the names but not the spelling. Will pm them to you.
If you just google the child's full name ( Emily Nialyn Manion Machado ) you'll find a TON of links on her, one of which has the father finding out the mother fled to Brazil with the child.
I found out from the Center for missing and exploded children that they found flight information. They fled the U.S. and went to Brazil.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-12999
Cubby
09-02-2008, 03:05 PM
If you just google the child's full name ( Emily Nialyn Manion Machado ) you'll find a TON of links on her, one of which has the father finding out the mother fled to Brazil with the child.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-12999
This hasn't been verified. Allegedly Berwyn PD has spoken with the childs mother and has told Mike his daugther is ok.
barb0301
09-02-2008, 03:18 PM
If you just google the child's full name ( Emily Nialyn Manion Machado ) you'll find a TON of links on her, one of which has the father finding out the mother fled to Brazil with the child.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-12999
When I spoke to the dad, the info about mom fleeing to Brazil came from NCMEC. They apparently found flight reservations, but could not/would not confirm to him if she actually boarded the flight.
believe09
09-02-2008, 03:43 PM
When I spoke to the dad, the info about mom fleeing to Brazil came from NCMEC. They apparently found flight reservations, but could not/would not confirm to him if she actually boarded the flight.
Then the ball has to go into another court-I knew someone in a situation where the child was in danger of an international kidnapping like this-her attorney told her that once the child left the country it would be a long hard impossible road to get the child back.
His best bet would be to go to Brazil after them if he knows where she would have gone-he could contact the American consulate once he gets there and he would need to hire a Brazilian attorney I would think....then he could bring Emily home.
Were they not able to get her location or anything? He has legal right to his daughter. The mother keeping him from her (especially with the court paperwork from the custody hearings) is illegal and she can be arrested for it.
This hasn't been verified. Allegedly Berwyn PD has spoken with the childs mother and has told Mike his daugther is ok.
Cubby
09-02-2008, 06:33 PM
I just spoke with my neighbor who is an IL State Trooper. He suggested the following.
1) Mikes attorney contact the Cook County States Attorney's office and let them know what is happing with Berwyn PD regarding non/lack of cooperation with the visitation interference and not taking the missing persons report.
2) Mike contact INS with the custody information and all his paperwork. They should be able to track her passport and see if a passport has been issued for his daughter. They too may be able to pursue the parental kidnapping visitation interference.
hth.
believe09
09-02-2008, 07:36 PM
I just spoke with my neighbor who is an IL State Trooper. He suggested the following.
1) Mikes attorney contact the Cook County States Attorney's office and let them know what is happing with Berwyn PD regarding non/lack of cooperation with the visitation interference and not taking the missing persons report.
2) Mike contact INS with the custody information and all his paperwork. They should be able to track her passport and see if a passport has been issued for his daughter. They too may be able to pursue the parental kidnapping visitation interference.
hth.
My bold and italics-I just talked to Berwyn PD for a while. They pulled together a number of criminal complaints regarding Mike's case and took them to the State's Attorney. The State's attorney's office refused to swear out a warrant for the following reasons:
1.) Mom is a citizen of Brazil and child has dual citizenship. They flew to Brazil exactly as it was mentioned in the NCMEC report.
2.) At the time the pair left for Brazil, there was no crime except that Nigla did not call Mike and say that she was leaving so he could try and fight it.
3.) Emily is not missing so no missing person's report is going to be filed with anyone.
Now, 60 days after the fact, Mike was awarded custody of his child even though mom was no longer in the country and neither was the child...a fact that Mike knew. If the court had been apprised of that fact, I wonder if they would have awarded him custody...
In any case, as I suspected, Mike now needs to go to Brazil with his paperwork and try to get Emily back. Which su***.
I was told that Mike has been calling multiple organizations on a daily basis looking for assistance-everyone from the FBI on down in terms of LE says there is not a criminal case here...ironically with the EXCEPTION of Berwyn, PD who at least pushed it up the the State's Attorney.
They made not one single negative statement about Mike...they expressed their sympathy and their own frustration.
christine2448
09-02-2008, 07:53 PM
Call David Thelan? Believe, thoughts?
Cubby
09-02-2008, 07:57 PM
My bold and italics-I just talked to Berwyn PD for a while. They pulled together a number of criminal complaints regarding Mike's case and took them to the State's Attorney. The State's attorney's office refused to swear out a warrant for the following reasons:
1.) Mom is a citizen of Brazil and child has dual citizenship. They flew to Brazil exactly as it was mentioned in the NCMEC report.
2.) At the time the pair left for Brazil, there was no crime except that Nigla did not call Mike and say that she was leaving so he could try and fight it.
3.) Emily is not missing so no missing person's report is going to be filed with anyone.
Now, 60 days after the fact, Mike was awarded custody of his child even though mom was no longer in the country and neither was the child...a fact that Mike knew. If the court had been apprised of that fact, I wonder if they would have awarded him custody...
In any case, as I suspected, Mike now needs to go to Brazil with his paperwork and try to get Emily back. Which su***.
I was told that Mike has been calling multiple organizations on a daily basis looking for assistance-everyone from the FBI on down in terms of LE says there is not a criminal case here...ironically with the EXCEPTION of Berwyn, PD who at least pushed it up the the State's Attorney.
They made not one single negative statement about Mike...they expressed their sympathy and their own frustration.
My bold above. Thank you for checking into this believe. It appears that Mikes option/route with least resistance and best possible outcome is to enforce his visitation or custodial rights through the hague convention. Brazil is a cooperating country with the Hague Convention.
Do we know if Mike has been given contact information for Emily and her mother in Brazil? I would think minimally *if* LE has this info it should be available to Mike as he has parental rights.
It is good to know that Berwyn PD pushed it up to the states attorney level.
Cubby
09-02-2008, 09:09 PM
Here is the info for David Thelens organization again:
http://www.findthekids.org/
Here is the info for Karl Hindles site and organization:
http://emilyrosehindle.blogspot.com/
From Karls site:
Frozenheart (http://frozenheart.org/) has now been incorporated in the state of New York and is applying for 501(c)3 status as a non-profit organzation.
Frozenheart's principal mission is to provide practical assistance to parents seeking the return or access to internationally abducted children.
Contact Karl Hindle at frozen@frozenheart.org for more information and how to get involved.
Email Contact
frozen@frozenheart.org
hindle.karl@gmail.com
I did not use either of the above emails so maybe that is why I didn't catch him. My suggestion is for Mike to email him directly with the information he has and the info believe09 was able to obtain from Berwyn PD this afternoon. Karl, having been through and still going through this himself with his daughter Emily, is the 'expert' on international parental abduction cases.
barb0301
09-02-2008, 09:50 PM
Hello,
I had been in contact with the father many weeks ago and gave him my advise which included contacting parental abduction (PA) experts at NCMEC and going to the state clearinghouse.
We are not PA experts so feel this case is out of our realm and that it was not to us to determine that local LE have wronged him and take or advise action against them.
So, in our case, pointing him to the experts is what what we could do. I truly hope that if he has been wronged, this will be reversed.
We, unfortunately, don't have the manpower and training in PA cases to do more than that on that case.
Thanks,
Kelly
Thank you Kelly !! As always, your help is sooo very much appreciated.
barb0301
09-02-2008, 09:56 PM
Here is the info for David Thelens organization again:
http://www.findthekids.org/
Here is the info for Karl Hindles site and organization:
http://emilyrosehindle.blogspot.com/
From Karls site:
Frozenheart (http://frozenheart.org/) has now been incorporated in the state of New York and is applying for 501(c)3 status as a non-profit organzation.
Frozenheart's principal mission is to provide practical assistance to parents seeking the return or access to internationally abducted children.
Contact Karl Hindle at frozen@frozenheart.org for more information and how to get involved.
Email Contact
frozen@frozenheart.org
hindle.karl@gmail.com
I did not use either of the above emails so maybe that is why I didn't catch him. My suggestion is for Mike to email him directly with the information he has and the info believe09 was able to obtain from Berwyn PD this afternoon. Karl, having been through and still going through this himself with his daughter Emily, is the 'expert' on international parental abduction cases.
I just sent this to Mike.
Interesting - Mike has pics of Emily and mom in Chicago from Emily's 3rd birthday about 10 days ago. Someone sent them to him that has access to mom's MySpace account. If you have MySpace, you can see them on his MySpace account in the pics section. If not, pm me and I will email them to you.
believe09
09-02-2008, 09:56 PM
If she is here, get her served!!!!!!!!!!!!!
barb0301
09-02-2008, 10:08 PM
If she is here, get her served!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can't find her !!!!!!!!!!!!!! And LE is telling them she is in Brazil !!!!
She doesn't work, so no employment records. Family has sporadic work history. No funds for PI.
Pics are of her and Emily in Daly Plaza.
Cubby
09-03-2008, 12:42 AM
They can't find her !!!!!!!!!!!!!! And LE is telling them she is in Brazil !!!!
She doesn't work, so no employment records. Family has sporadic work history. No funds for PI.
Pics are of her and Emily in Daly Plaza.
Then he needs to print the pictures and bring them to LE. Can the date be verified? -or- he needs to pass the myspace info to LE so they can prove she has not left for brazil and is accesing myspace locally. Does she have a DL? Does he have the license plate number of any of the family's car? Something has to be in her name or the families name.
Did he try contacting Thelen or Karl Hindle? He needs to contact someone who is familiar with this... Karl and Thelen know each other well. I'd try Thelen first... another friend of mine mentioned she could not get in contact with Karl either.... and he had a few rough months of it when he flew in from England, was here in the states a month and still did not get to see his daughter. Thelens organization does assist with some funding.
Tell Mike to get off his hmpf and get reading here! This is public now and not in the members only area.... so he need to get here! ;)
barb0301
09-03-2008, 12:59 AM
Thanks Cubby. I passed all of these suggestions on to Mike. He was trying to contact Thelen and Mark Hindle tonight. He was also going to be in contact with the 2nd attorney he was trying to retain 1st thing in the morning.
He has been at his sister's house for the past 2 weeks. He has to return to his home and to work in Berwyn tomorrow, so will be somewhat out of touch. I have his home address, but his cell phone has now been cut off. He's cut himself down to the bare minimum, including no internet access and put all his $ into legal fees. I'll be talking to him in the morning and try to get your other questions answered.
I don't think the date of the pics can be "officially" verified without the camera, or something in the pic with a date, etc. I have looked at the pics, and though I don't know Chicago or Daly Plaza, they look like they are authentic as far as location to me. But again, I'm not an expert on the area . Date is another question. They were posted as "Emily's 3rd birthday" by mom in her MySpace according to whoever sent them to Mike. Emily's 3rd birthday was 8/24.
Cubby
09-03-2008, 01:55 AM
Thanks Cubby. I passed all of these suggestions on to Mike. He was trying to contact Thelen and Mark Hindle tonight. He was also going to be in contact with the 2nd attorney he was trying to retain 1st thing in the morning.
He has been at his sister's house for the past 2 weeks. He has to return to his home and to work in Berwyn tomorrow, so will be somewhat out of touch. I have his home address, but his cell phone has now been cut off. He's cut himself down to the bare minimum, including no internet access and put all his $ into legal fees. I'll be talking to him in the morning and try to get your other questions answered.
I don't think the date of the pics can be "officially" verified without the camera, or something in the pic with a date, etc. I have looked at the pics, and though I don't know Chicago or Daly Plaza, they look like they are authentic as far as location to me. But again, I'm not an expert on the area . Date is another question. They were posted as "Emily's 3rd birthday" by mom in her MySpace according to whoever sent them to Mike. Emily's 3rd birthday was 8/24.
It's been decades since I've been to Daley Plaza. But March weather in Chicago and August weather in Chicago can easily be verified... there is a place online somewhere.. I'd have to dig for it again. It has all the daily highs and lows, and weather for almost every city for years and years... we could see if the weather matched the pics.....
If she is here and made it look like she left, which is quite possible, we need some evidence for LE to prove she is still in Cook County.
So someone sent them to Mike?
Did he see them on her myspace? I lock up too often opening myspace pages to check.
Mike can access the internet at the library... I've also heard some Walmarts have free internet but I don't know if that is available in IL. If he is in college he should have access from school.
Cubby
09-03-2008, 02:03 AM
I understand how Mike feels...
When I went through my CS case and got the run around I had no previous experience in court other than traffic court. You go in, do whatever, pay the fine and do the traffic school and the ticket doesn't count. I was so incredibly niave... I honestly thought going in and telling the truth everything would work itself out. Oh boy, did I find out how wrong I was.....
I know what it feels like to continously feel like you are walking in circles and circles of doors and each one is another slam in your face... I know what its' like to pull all nighters sometimes several nights a week researching law.... having all the right stats and still having been told no. It's hard....
It was not until I found an advocacy group who not only told me what to do, they gave me the means HOW to do it.... and it was still very very tough.
I am more than happy to help Mike and point him in the direction of how to and what to. I'm not fantastic at sleuthing... I can't find many things others here can and do seemingly easily, but this is one area I feel I can be of a little more assistance having been on the single parent forums.. for 6+ years... and heard both sides of the issues... IF I don't have the answer I'll do my best to find someone who will take the time to find out.
Mike though, needs to be barking up the right tree.... I don't mean that to be harsh, but hindsite with what I dealt with I can see I spent countless emotional energy wasting far too much time where I shouldn't have and it cost me a lot of money. Money that I can't even think about other than I did it for my son, but if I knew then what I know now I would have made different choices. Choices that would probably have saved me close to the tune of 6 figures... I don't want to see Mike make that same mistake..... So what I mean by this is he has to trust us.... if something doesn't feel right he can ask us... and we will do what we can.... but he has to go with it even if it doesn't feel right but has been verified.
:blowkiss:
barb0301
09-04-2008, 08:19 PM
woo hoo !!
Just got off the phone w/Michael. He is at the PD right now, and they are filing a missing person report !!!!! They are putting it in NCIC. I am supposed to get a case number this evening, as soon as he has it. I will keep you posted. I pray that this actually happens, as it will FINALLY enable Mike to get the help he so desperately needs.
Hope to have an update soon !!
ETA: Talked to Michael again. He left the PD without the police report, but it was due to them "working on getting it into NCIC". He is supposed to return to the PD tomorrow morning and get the report. They told him that it would be in the system at that time. As a follow up, while he was there, he had someone on the phone with him, so they could listen along as he made the report. This person is a family person of currently missing children, so is well aware of what goes in in missing children cases (although it is not a case where a family member is suspected of having the child). He left the PD hopeful and saying that they were very nice to him and he felt good. I'll talk to him again in the morning.
Tranaice
09-05-2008, 10:29 AM
I pray this works out for him and his daughter.
believe09
09-05-2008, 12:43 PM
If Nigla is in the country or traveling in and out with Emily, then this should trigger something on the Homeland Security computers at the airports, correct?
I mean the NCIC should run into the transportation computers...am I crazy? Please let us know, Barb!!!
Cubby
09-05-2008, 05:59 PM
Thanks for the update Barb! I'm so happy for Mike. What made LE change their mind? do they now believe she never left the country as he thought?
I don't know who it was that was able to assist Mike and was on the phone with him while he was with LE, but thank you!
Cubby
09-05-2008, 10:58 PM
Ugh, False alarm. Mike has a meeting with LE and his attorney next week. LE. law enforcement, is trying to find a way around some obstacles to get this done. Mostly that the mother had custody at the time she left so technically the only crime commited was that she did not notify him per the visitation agreement.
I told Mike to take the pics he allegedly has of her 3rd birthday in August of this year here in Chicago.
LE needs to verify if she is in fact here, or in Brazil. NCMEC verified tickets to Brazil in March but were unable to confirm if they were one way or round trip. Wouldn't it make sense that LE should be able to confirm whether or not they returned to the country? Why can't they look at her myspace and see where she is logging in from?
Idaho4Groenes
09-06-2008, 12:10 AM
Ugh, False alarm. Mike has a meeting with LE and his attorney next week. LE. law enforcement, is trying to find a way around some obstacles to get this done. Mostly that the mother had custody at the time she left so technically the only crime commited was that she did not notify him per the visitation agreement.
I told Mike to take the pics he allegedly has of her 3rd birthday in August of this year here in Chicago.
LE needs to verify if she is in fact here, or in Brazil. NCMEC verified tickets to Brazil in March but were unable to confirm if they were one way or round trip. Wouldn't it make sense that LE should be able to confirm whether or not they returned to the country? Why can't they look at her myspace and see where she is logging in from?
I have a question. Why is the NCMEC looking into this case and trying to find them if the police won't take a report and Emily hasn't been entered into NCIC? I thought they could only look into cases that have been verified and entered in the database. Of course, I could be way wrong. I am just curious and want to get the facts straight in my head.
Cubby
09-06-2008, 01:06 AM
I have a question. Why is the NCMEC looking into this case and trying to find them if the police won't take a report and Emily hasn't been entered into NCIC? I thought they could only look into cases that have been verified and entered in the database. Of course, I could be way wrong. I am just curious and want to get the facts straight in my head.
My understanding is NCMEC started an investigation but did not complete it because Mike did not have the missing persons report. It's my understanding NCMEC gave what info they had to LE. LE gave the info to Mike. I can't be certain.... Mike did read me what NCMEC had forwarded to LE. They told him they would continue their investigation once he has the missing persons report. Hope that makes sense.
Idaho4Groenes
09-06-2008, 02:18 AM
Thanks for the clarificataion Cubby. :) I really hope this all works out.
barb0301
09-06-2008, 03:32 PM
My understanding is NCMEC started an investigation but did not complete it because Mike did not have the missing persons report. It's my understanding NCMEC gave what info they had to LE. LE gave the info to Mike. I can't be certain.... Mike did read me what NCMEC had forwarded to LE. They told him they would continue their investigation once he has the missing persons report. Hope that makes sense.
This is my understanding also. I think Berwyn PD is doing what they can to help Mike, there is just a lot of confusion about what can be done because of who had custody and when. Hopefully, after the meeting on Wed, there will be a lot better understanding of where Mike stands and what can be done for him. I am pleased that it seems as if he and the Berwyn PD are now working together in trying to resolve this. A positive step forward.
teonspaleprincess
09-06-2008, 04:04 PM
Thank you all for the hard work and for keeping everyone updated.
Salem
09-07-2008, 01:05 PM
Can we get the title to this thread changed now?
Good work all. I am also happy to hear LE is now attempting to work with Mike and not against him. Sometimes all it takes is a little backup and showing that you refuse to be swept under the rug.
Salem
Cubby
09-12-2008, 08:11 AM
Did anyone hear from Mike how his meeting with LE and his atty went?
I also see some updates in the cook Cty Court records for 09/09/08. Hmmm....
I had a duh' moment and I emailed Mike. Back in 2005/2006 IL stopped issuing child support via paper checks and required either direct depost info or the CS recipient to receive payment via a debit card. There was a period of time between Emily 'missing' and the court order for child support to be terminated once Mike was granted custody. That period of time should be verifiable to her whereabouts no? If not Cook County has a site for "undistributable" child support, however I do not know how often it is updated and whether or not LE can obtain that info prior to it being public on Cook's site. They should however be able to obtain the debit card or direct deposit info with a court order no? At least to determine her whereabouts.
Idaho4Groenes
09-30-2008, 12:44 AM
Heard from Mike today. The police finally accepted his Missing Persons Report. Emily is now listed in NCIC as well. From what I understand, she should be entered with NCMEC soon. He had a question and I'm not sure what he can do.
"The police finally accepted the report from me after 6 months of asking. I looked at the IL law and they cannot refuse it under any grounds and they did for 6 months. What can I do about it?"
Cubby
09-30-2008, 12:13 PM
Heard from Mike today. The police finally accepted his Missing Persons Report. Emily is now listed in NCIC as well. From what I understand, she should be entered with NCMEC soon. He had a question and I'm not sure what he can do.
"The police finally accepted the report from me after 6 months of asking. I looked at the IL law and they cannot refuse it under any grounds and they did for 6 months. What can I do about it?"
I'm so happy for Mike and will be watching for Emily to be listed at NCMEC. I hope this is not another false alarm.
I'm not sure what Mike can do either regarding the delay in filing the report. This is my opinion, and I have mentioned this to Mike previously. It's been my experience that fathers have two routes to take... they can go for the cause- and almost give up on their personal situation- or they can focus on their situation. Mike needs to make a decision exactly which he wishes to accomplish. This has been mentioned to him in so many words, not just from myself, but from Barb and Believe. Both have spoken with LE and/or his attorney.
He has repeatedly, been given info for organizations to assist but has not really replied regarding any of those... He is more PO'd at LE, which, imo is not going to help him in any way. He NEEDS LE on his side... and he needs to pull his big boy pants up, forget what is done and focus on the avenues available if he wants to be reunited with Emily. Many are offered HERE and once Emily is listed he can go that route if he chooses.
With permission, copied from a custodial single father on my yahoo Single Parents forum. (Teri Stoddards forum)
Chris posted: BUT X's immediate and severe problem
appears to be that the police handling the custody exchange don't
like her, or like dad more than her.
That is a massive problem. Facts, right/wrong, obligations, even the
law. All take a back seat to who "they" like better. Police, Judges, Lawyers,GAL's,Child Protective Services, all of them. You need them on YOUR side,and that means in addition to being right, and having truth and bla bla bla on your side.
They must "like" you, or you will find yourself frustrated at every
step of the way and can even loose for no other reason.
It's difficult to realize this at a young age.... I understand that, but at some point, Mike needs to trust and have some faith in those of us who have been there, done that, and learned the hard way. Not only with missing children but our experiences through Family Court. The other alternative is he has a long road before that light bulb moment. A road, I would not wish on another Single Parent.
Idaho4Groenes
10-01-2008, 04:23 PM
Cubby, I agree with you. Mike told me that he would be "po" if he didn't get media attention about this now. He's just angry at everyone, which is understandable, but he needs to stop focusing on that.
The good news is, Emily IS now listed with NCMEC.
http://missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1092337&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
Cubby
10-01-2008, 04:48 PM
I'm ecstatic she is finally listed! We need to get the mods to change the title to this thread. I will pm a request for that shortly.
mammabear
10-01-2008, 11:44 PM
http://www.missingkids.com/photographs/NCMC1092337c1.jpg
NCMEC Poster Info (http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=109233 7&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US)
FINALLY, Emily has been added to NCMEC.
EMILY MACHADO
DOB: Aug 24, 2005
Missing: Mar 27, 2008
Height: 3'2" (97 cm)
Eyes: Blue
Race: Biracial
Age Now: 3
Sex: Female
Weight: 27 lbs (12 kg)
Hair: Blonde
Missing From:
BERWYN
IL
United States
Emily may be in the company of her non-custodial mother. They may still be in the local area or they may travel out of state. Emily is Biracial. She is Hispanic and White. Emily's ears are pierced. Her nickname is Emma.
ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
1-800-843-5678 (1-800-THE-LOST)
Berwyn Police Department (Illinois) 1-708-795-5600
I have talked with Michael a few times. I KNOW he has been going through a rough time, fighting to get Emily entered into NCMEC. This Dad has hit too many brick walls for the last 6 months, has been shunned by most organizations for the missing due to current custodial laws, and has had a rough time in Myspace. He could use your support. So, even if you don't know of Emily's whereabouts, please stop by his Myspace (http://myspace.com/daddyandemily) profile, and show him support.
You can also view more information on Find Emily Machado (http://www.findemilymachado.com)
Current (http://current.com/items/89361221_what_if_the_police_and_ncmec_took_6_month s_to_report_your_child_missing)
adam263
10-02-2008, 12:05 AM
Any idea where the mother might be headed?
Cubby
10-02-2008, 12:31 AM
There is another thread for Emily here:
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69607
doonerinohio
10-02-2008, 12:34 AM
She's beautiful! I hope her Dad finds her soon. Why can't parents get along. I realize that's a "rose-colored" view of the world but I do it with my children and their Dad. I hope he can track the Mom down and bring his little girl back to him! And Michael- you are NOT letting your daughter down!
Cubby
10-06-2008, 05:05 PM
I heard from Mike today. He is finally trying to register here with his yahoo account, so I have sent off a message notifying Tricia. I have also sent a 3rd request to merge the two threads here.....
Mike deserves to have his daughters name in the thread title now that she is officially listed.... and he is now listening to the too many pots in the kettle... focus his energy HERE where he has found at least a half dozen of us WS'rs outside of WS... and to just trust us... we'll carry the baton with him.
I completly understand and support Mike, being a 23 yr old single father... and not really knowing where to start or turn. Once he can get here to WS, I am praying he will hook onto -like a leach- the avenues and support we have offered as well as the continued support from other WS'rs.
barb0301
10-07-2008, 01:02 AM
I hope Mike gets registered here. I'm still here, following the case, but have not talked to Mike lately. I was out of town, working with TES for a week, and have been busy with some work for them. I will try to contact him tomorrow. Thank you so much for keeping up with him everyone. Having kids his age, my sympathies are with him, and I want so badly for this all to work out for him. I am so thankful that she is FINALLY listed as officially missing. WOW !! What finally changed LE's mind?
MrsG728
10-07-2008, 01:58 PM
I can help with anything for Brazil. Good friends of ours have businesses down there and one is an online business- they're in touch daily.
mg
Cubby
10-09-2008, 09:42 PM
I hope Mike gets registered here. I'm still here, following the case, but have not talked to Mike lately. I was out of town, working with TES for a week, and have been busy with some work for them. I will try to contact him tomorrow. Thank you so much for keeping up with him everyone. Having kids his age, my sympathies are with him, and I want so badly for this all to work out for him. I am so thankful that she is FINALLY listed as officially missing. WOW !! What finally changed LE's mind?
Thank you Barb.... I let Mike know today we are all still in the loop here... just waiting on his registration and how to proceed. It was so nice to hear him laugh a little.... I tried to reinforce again, forget about Berwyn, and let's move forward. Let us at WS take that baton..... I went through family court at 35, I can't imagine going through it without parents, at 23.
He has some info on Nigla's family..... some info for us - a bone? Will be looking at getting that posted and researched soon... ( I want a central place for him first....)
Supposedly, Berwyn is getting inundated with calls.... I think the local papers are the Berwyn Life, Daily southtown and daily herald. My sons paternal Aunt works for Fox news Chgo..... I think we can put a blitz here locally... and of course all the avenues for assistance now that Emily is listed...... One step at a time.. I told him to just breathe..... and reminded him of his "yes ma'm", last time he spoke with you. :blowkiss:
Moving, just slowly.....
Cubby
10-09-2008, 10:26 PM
I can help with anything for Brazil. Good friends of ours have businesses down there and one is an online business- they're in touch daily.
mg
thank you so much MrsG. Mike has some info on her family here and in Brazil. We only had a short time to talk earlier... He mentioned Sao Paul? A coastal community...while my 6 year old screaching. If your friends could please print her NCMEC poster.... NCMEC, does translate to spanish yes? When I get more info we'll share.
Emily models as well... and was not in pagents.... so we are hoping for more info.... between her modeling, and extended family. :blowkiss:
Gracias! Dziynki!:blowkiss:
Mohabi
10-09-2008, 11:17 PM
Brazil = Portuguese, not Spanish. Thought you'd like to know.
Cubby
10-09-2008, 11:54 PM
Brazil = Portuguese, not Spanish. Thought you'd like to know.
Dziynki! Is thank you spelled differently in Portuguese and Spanish?
Don't ask me how to pronounce it, lol...
Thanks Mohabi... are you offering any help on this case? We'll take it! just don't quiz me. I told Mike earlier today, even the Casey/Caylee Anthony thing was not BAD timing..... some will wander here...and onto other cases at WS.
MrsG728
10-10-2008, 01:00 AM
I'll have him send those posters down to Brazil tomorrow morning!
in Portugese, it's Obrigado (thank you)
He is actually from Sao Paolo (pronounced Sum Powloo) and I can tell you it's rough down there. BUT here's a tidbit of info you may not know:
All of the Brazilian city kids go to "camp" in the summer when school is not in session because the cities are so tough. All of these groups end up in Disney at one time or another, and they go eeeeeevery year. You see them in the same tee shirt in large mobs and the leader has a pennant/flag up on a skinny pole. If she's old enough to go to camp, she may get to go to Disney. Mom could possibly go, too.
I bet dad would love that bit of info. Disney has a pretty good security and surveillance system. I wonder if we could get any leads that way.
MG
Cubby
10-10-2008, 04:46 AM
Rereading and updating old posts... Karl Hindle, is in the midst of making some changes to his frozenheart.org site.... and while he is working out those issues has opened his personal blog, to other parents involved with international parental abduction.
[quote=Cubby;2606401]Here is the info for David Thelens organization again:
http://www.findthekids.org/
Here is the info for Karl Hindles site and organization:
http://emilyrosehindle.blogspot.com/ (http://emilyrosehindle.blogspot.com/)
Cubby
10-10-2008, 05:01 AM
Obrigado, Thank you... I'm sure Mike will be happy with this news, and wow almost 100 posts! :blowkiss:
I'll have him send those posters down to Brazil tomorrow morning!
in Portugese, it's Obrigado (thank you)
He is actually from Sao Paolo (pronounced Sum Powloo) and I can tell you it's rough down there. BUT here's a tidbit of info you may not know:
All of the Brazilian city kids go to "camp" in the summer when school is not in session because the cities are so tough. All of these groups end up in Disney at one time or another, and they go eeeeeevery year. You see them in the same tee shirt in large mobs and the leader has a pennant/flag up on a skinny pole. If she's old enough to go to camp, she may get to go to Disney. Mom could possibly go, too.
I bet dad would love that bit of info. Disney has a pretty good security and surveillance system. I wonder if we could get any leads that way.
MG
MrsG728
10-10-2008, 07:02 AM
I took care of it last night and I will re-post a "new" translated flier as soon as he does this for me... I am hoping on today!
He is having it distributed to LE in Sao Paolo too, since his cousin is a cop.
MG
MrsG728
10-10-2008, 11:21 AM
It's all done! Just waiting to load it up as soon as it's converted from a word file to a picture file. Woohoo, my friend is awesome!
he's sending it to brazil as we speak. He said he can get it passed on to about 1000 people an hour!
Cubby
10-11-2008, 02:40 AM
DATA OF THE ABDUCTION:
ABDUCER’S
NAME: NIGIA MACHADO
GENDER: FEMALE
BIRTHDAY: 12/ 22/ 1985
AGE: 22
NATIONALITY: BRAZILIAN
BIRTH PLACE:
CITY:
STATE:
COUNTRY: BRAZIL
PARENTS:
FATHER: EDGAR MACHADO
MOTHER: SANDRA MACHADO
HEIGHT: 5’4
WEIGHT: 145 lbs
BUILD: AVERAGE
COMPLEXION: AVERAGE
ETNICITY: LATINO
HAIR: BROWN, SHORT AND CURLY
EYES: BROWN
PARTICULAR SIGNS: SCAR ON HER RIGHT LEG
DEGREE OF KINDRED: MOTHER
LANGUAGES: ENGLISH AND PORTUGUESE
ID CARD :
PASSPORT :
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j242/biabeatriz/Emily/m_0f28385885e5fa199e6c9a9279811899.jpg (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vczgyLnBob3RvYnVja2V0LmNvbS9hbGJ1bXMvaj I0Mi9iaWFiZWF0cml6L0VtaWx5Lz9hY3Rpb249dmlldyZjdXJy ZW50PW1fMGYyODM4NTg4NWU1ZmExOTllNmM5YTkyNzk4MTE4OT kuanBn)
ABDUCED’S
NAME: EMILY NIALYN MANION MACHADO
GENDER: FEMALE
BIRTHDAY: 08/ 24/ 2005
AGE: 3
NATIONALITY: AMERICAN
CITY:
STATE:
COUNTRY: US
PARENTS:
FATHER: MICHAEL SANCHEZ
MOTHER: NIGIA MACHADO
ETNICITY: WHITE
HEIGHT: 3’0
WEIGHT: 25 lbs
BUILD: AVERAGE
COMPLEXION: AVERAGE
HAIR: BLOND, LONG AND CURLY
EYES: LIGHT BLUE
PARTICULAR SIGNS: 2 PIERCED EARS
DEGREE OF KINDRED: DAUGHTER
LANGUAGES: ENGLISH AND PORTUGUESE
ID CARD :
PASSPORT :
The above copied from info posted on myspace.
Cubby
10-11-2008, 02:42 AM
Still no luck in getting Mike registered and this thread merged with the other thread. Have sent several PM's..... :rolleyes:
Maybe someone else will have better luck with a response from our mods.
MrsG728
10-11-2008, 01:34 PM
thanks again, cubby. I have forwarded all of this info.
Someone made me a jpeg. of the new poster and i'll post that on here too as soon as I get it back.
:blowkiss: MG
MrsG728
10-12-2008, 02:52 PM
Here is the poster in Portuguese!!! Please feel free to spread it around!
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/websleuther/EmilyJPG.jpg
Thank you to SieSie all of her hard work converting this file from Word to jpeg. :blowkiss:
MG
Cubby
10-12-2008, 07:15 PM
Here is the poster in Portugese!!! Please feel free to spread it around!
Thank you to SieSie all of her hard work converting this file from Word to jpeg. :blowkiss:
MG
The poster looks fantastic! Though the contact info was left off. On NCMEC site the first pic does not list it, you have to click on view poster for the contact info.
Can you add it?
Here it is:
ANYONE HAVING INFORMATION SHOULD CONTACT
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
1-800-843-5678 (1-800-THE-LOST)
Berwyn Police Department (Illinois) 1-708-795-5600
:blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
Thank you!
Cubby
10-13-2008, 12:28 AM
Thank you mods for getting the two threads merged, the title changed and getting Mike registered! I'm looking forward to seeing him here at WS soon!
:blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss: :blowkiss:
MrsG728
10-13-2008, 02:29 AM
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo: I am so excited for the thread title!
I am fixing the phone number thing as we speak! YAY finally!
MrsG728
10-13-2008, 03:06 AM
I'll add the new one once I get it back. thanks so much for feedback
forthelost
10-13-2008, 11:30 AM
This stuff is all very frustrating.
I wrote the dad trying to get info to include the case on my site.
MrsG728
10-14-2008, 01:05 AM
OK sorry, one more time:
Here is the poster in Portuguese.
http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp55/websleuther/EmilyJPG-1.jpg
thank you to everyone who helped! :blowkiss:
Emily'sFather
10-14-2008, 03:08 PM
Hi my name is Michael. I am the father of Emily Nialyn Manion Machado. I just became a member of websleuths I want to thank you for helping me. I am looking forward to talking and discussing this case. If you have time, please take a look at the petition I put out for Emily. Please sign it if you all have time. Thank you. This petition is for (Media Coverage) on her story. With enough signatures, I will take it to all the local media out lets in Chicago IL.
http://www.gopetition.com/online/22490.html
MrsG728
10-14-2008, 04:51 PM
Michael, welcome! We are so glad you could join us, and we are dedicated to help you in any way we can to help bring Emily home. If there is anything you think we should know on the Brasilian end, please PM me. I have many people working on this is Sao Paolo.
MG
Cubby
10-14-2008, 11:30 PM
Hi Mike! Welcome. So glad you made it here. Hopefully the forum will not be as locked up and slow as it was today in the next few days giving you time to navigate better. Today was not the norm.
We are here to help.... Feel free to ask questions, for direction, and take a look here at this thread, Lighting the Way home, and some of the other areas for family support.
:blowkiss:
barb0301
10-15-2008, 03:08 AM
Hi Mike !! Welcome to WS !! This is a great place, and you won't find a more welcoming, helpful group of folks anywhere. They are fantabulous !
I'm sorry I have been so out of touch for so long, I'll try to get in touch with you in the next couple of days. What with sickness and then being out of town, I've just been pretty unavailable. I was THRILLED to see you got Emily listed finally, and can't wait to hear how it all came about. YOU ROCK my dear !!
Remember, keep the focus and your eye on the goal. I'm so proud to call you my friend. As a young father, you have put so much into getting your daughter back, and making sure she is okay. You have a lot to be proud of my dear !!
I'll be in N. Carolina w/ Texas EquuSearch for a while, beginning tomorrow (leaving home tomorrow, in NC Friday). I'll try to call you from the road though, we're taking the motorhome.
:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:,
Barbie
Emily'sFather
10-15-2008, 04:06 PM
Thank you. I am really focusing on trying to get on the Dr. Phil Show or the Steve Wilkos Show. I was in contact with the Dr. Phil Show for awhile but for some reason, they stopped calling. I really think that is my shot and only shot of getting the story totally out. The Dr. Phil Show has topics on the their site 1. Has your child been kidnapped. 2. Parental Abduction. I don't know if they plan on still doing the shows but It would mean a lot to me if i can get on it. I know this will be a battle for me, but if i can get on the show' i want my daughter to know one thing. That I am looking for her, even if it takes years' that i did everything that I can. If anyone can help me with the show, I would really appricate it. I have the petition out for media coverage. I hope that works well. Barb, Don't worry about it, when you have time' just give me a call. Thanks to everyone.
Tracie5
10-15-2008, 06:58 PM
Welcome Mike! And the best of luck in your quest. You have a beautiful daughter.
I signed the petition.
Emily'sFather
10-15-2008, 07:53 PM
Thank you
forthelost
10-18-2008, 04:32 PM
http://www.forthelost.org/family/emachado.html
I did not post the picture of the mother because its size makes it useless. If I have made any mistakes in the case file please tell me.
Emily'sFather
10-21-2008, 07:09 PM
I don't have any good pictures of the abducter. I am also still trying to get media coverage but i don't know what to do anymore. anyone have any ideas? I was really thinking of (Chaining myself up by the court house intel my daughter's story was heard. This is crap that the media would rather listen to things that's not important in the world. I believe children are the #1 priority. Agree????
MrsG728
10-22-2008, 02:16 AM
I hear you loud and clear, mike. Remember though, those kinds of actions only get negative attention. :( We'll do everything we can to get this information out to the public.
Do you have anything else on the mother that may be useful to us? Parent names? The name of the area in Sao Paulo she is from? Did she ever mention the name of a town?
Emily'sFather
10-22-2008, 05:30 PM
Parents Names
Edgar Machado (Nigia's Father)
Sandra Machado (Nigia's Mother)
Ravelli Machado (Nigia's Little Brother)
Guliano Machado (Brother) in Chicago somewhere
Nancy Machado (Wife of Guliano) In Chicago somewhere
A lawyer just called me becasue i sent them my story about the police and the refusal for taking the report and he wants to take my case, he has to talk to his other partaners and if they all agree, They will want me to come into the office and they will file the lawsuit on the police. The lawyer said "Berwyn police, we know them vary well' they are nothing but corrump officers" I will tell you what happens in a few days. I really hope they take the case, I honetly think that I have a good lawsuit against them.
MrsG728
10-22-2008, 07:14 PM
Thank you for the information! I hope this can help us find Emily. Good luck with your case!
MrsG728
10-22-2008, 07:14 PM
Parents Names
Edgar Machado (Nigia's Father)
Sandra Machado (Nigia's Mother)
Ravelli Machado (Nigia's Little Brother)
Guliano Machado (Brother) in Chicago somewhere
Nancy Machado (Wife of Guliano) In Chicago somewhere
I forgot to ask: are her parents in Brazil?
Emily'sFather
10-23-2008, 03:25 PM
We believe the entire family is...Yes
BREAKING NOW: Lawyers close to taking Civil Rights lawsuit on Berwyn Police. Sources close to the lawyers, said' "We are close to bringing in Michael and signing the agreement for the lawsuit" I will and should know within 48 hrs or sooner. I will let you all know.
Also..I will be meeting with a Berwyn Report on Tuesday for a story.
ChaCha
10-23-2008, 04:56 PM
Ashley Warner producer of the Steve Wilkos show
1-877-836-3441
Emily'sFather
10-23-2008, 06:09 PM
Em I suppose to call that number or something? I tried getting on that show a million times, but apperently they don't want to hear me. I will call that number but not sure if it is inteneded for me.
jademonkey
10-23-2008, 08:05 PM
Mike - You are a Hero! Your daughter is lucky to be so loved and have a father that would fight as you are. Let me know what I can do to help. Do you have a fund set up? If not let me know and I can help with that or any other way that you need.
Know that we hear you loud and clear and we agree your daughter is a #1 priority! Let's get her home!!!!
P.S. She is absolutely beautiful!
jademonkey
10-23-2008, 08:23 PM
I emailed Nancy Grace with this story and a plea for coverage. I encourage all ws'ers to email her, maybe enough us contacting her could get her attention.
I linked the website and told her: Warning: One look at this child and you'll be hooked. I so hope she is!
Cross your fingers and say lots of prayers. If we get NG on board she is relentless.
MrsG728
10-24-2008, 11:39 AM
I emailed Nancy Grace, too! I am keeping my fingers crossed that Emily's picture pulls at her heartstrings, as it has done ours.
Emily'sFather
10-24-2008, 01:53 PM
Thank you everyone. I have a donation button set up on Emily's website. However, I hear from some people that, I will get prosucuted for accepting donations for this case. I don't believe it but yeah. I am keeping it up. No one has donated anything but again, I can't make anone do anything. This is her website.
Findemilymachado.com
CaliKid
10-24-2008, 03:13 PM
Mike, your daughter is adorable, and I hope the national media begins covering your story. Maybe if enough people speak up, someone in the government will get involved and help you get Emily back.
Emily'sFather
10-24-2008, 03:22 PM
This is just a short list of who I have called for help
Berwyn police (LOL)
ILLINOIS State Police
State Attorney General
F.B.I
Governor of ILLINOIS
ILLINOIS Congressman
Mayor of Berwyn
Steve Wilkos Show
Trya Banks Show
Maury Show
Opera Show
Berwyn Newspapers
All local news stations
NCMEC
Dr. Phil Show
CLTV News
America's Most Wanted
Good Morning America