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kittykat1
08-25-2008, 07:31 PM
http://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2006/02/24/missing-jack-jason-simmons-41494-salt-lake-city-ut/#comment-44484

Please read the comment by Janice.
Has this been investigated?
I don't know what to make of it.

coltsgal
08-25-2008, 07:48 PM
I will contact the administrator at the school. That's a great lead. I dont know if LE has looked into this, but we sure should.

barb0301
08-26-2008, 01:13 AM
I will contact the administrator at the school. That's a great lead. I dont know if LE has looked into this, but we sure should.

Great coltsgal!! Good work kittycat1. :clap::clap::clap: Definitely feel like it needs to be checked out.

Fairy1
08-26-2008, 01:58 AM
Awesome! If he is from NC - doesn't look like he's listed as missing. Maybe be 18 or more?

coltsgal
08-26-2008, 08:54 AM
The tipster does say he's well over the age listed on doenetwork. Could be possible.

teonspaleprincess
08-26-2008, 08:55 AM
Summerlin and Sullivan both sound like last names. Maybe they called him that as a nickname? So his name could possibly be Jason Summerlin, Jason Sullivan, or maybe Jason Sutherland? I did searches for all three born in NC but didn't come up with anything yet.

coltsgal
08-26-2008, 09:08 AM
I tried the same, searching as if it were a last name, or even anything that sounded familiar. I emailed the administrator at the high school that was mentioned. I will let everyone know if I recieve a reply.

blue_the_puppy
08-26-2008, 11:53 AM
i posted a message on the classmates.com message board for white oak high school (http://www.classmates.com/messageboards/ForumController?action=DisplayDiscussion2&goto_m=48229102&hotlink=true#m48229102) unfortunately all the links got blanked out! can anyone else with a classmates.com account reply and help me out here? :crazy:

coltsgal
08-26-2008, 11:58 AM
I'm going to have to register for classmates.com. I dont have an account there.

Julespa
08-26-2008, 01:33 PM
I remember reading that blog a few days ago. I tried looking for that school and even googled for pictures that mention it and scanned over them didn't have any luck though. I am anxiously waiting for the administrator to call you back

coltsgal
08-26-2008, 01:35 PM
I wonder if we can get ahold of the person who gave the "tip".

coltsgal
08-26-2008, 01:39 PM
I emailed the person who is in charge of that website. Hopefully they can get us in contact with "janice" who wrote that.

If we can contact Janice, then maybe we can find the person who gave her that information.

coltsgal
08-26-2008, 02:09 PM
This is the email I got from the owner of the site linked above: (I requested any information regarding the person who posted or how I can get in touch with her)

"I can send her an email, but I can’t give hers out. However, if I remember correctly, I sent this to the detectives here and they said that they have already checked it out and it was a dead end. I will look for that email as well."

Shecky
08-26-2008, 02:24 PM
That comment says he attended high school in 1972? If we assume the average age range in high school is 14-18 years old, that would have made our Jason Doe 37-41 years old when he died in 1995.

I'm not saying it isn't worth looking into, it can't hurt, right? But I'd be floored if the age estimation was that far off.

coltsgal
08-26-2008, 02:28 PM
I'd be shocked if it were that far off too. I can understand if he is a little older than the approximation, but not by that much. Perhaps she wasn't too sure about the 1972 part.

Helper
08-28-2008, 12:23 PM
If you look under "Most Recent Classmates To Join", the last name listed is "Jason Southerland '78". http://www.alumniclass.com/whiteoakhs

Shecky
08-30-2008, 08:57 PM
I'd be shocked if it were that far off too. I can understand if he is a little older than the approximation, but not by that much. Perhaps she wasn't too sure about the 1972 part.

Even if she wasn't sure about the 1972 part, and was perhaps off by a couple of years, it would still put "Jason" ridiculously past the estimated age range. I could see him being born around 1972 (making him about 23 when he died) but I can't imagine a medical examiner/other specialists looking at the body of a 35-40 year old man and concluding he could be as young as 16, and not older than his early 20's.

But hell, crazy things happen. If our Doe looks so much like some guy that went to this high school, maybe it is a relative of his. Can't hurt to take a look.

nicola
09-06-2008, 11:41 AM
Does anyone know if classmates.com do pictures of students eg class/year photos etc. If so can someone with account have a look at pics of the 70's?

zelmajane
09-10-2008, 03:43 PM
The high school is less than an hour from here.

If they do come up with a yearbook and you need someone to pick it up and scan it, let me know.

MistyM
09-11-2008, 01:00 AM
if he was much older than he might have been estranged from his family and that's why no one is looking for him (the older you get the longer the ties are broken the less people care about you or look for you because they think you are just gone somewhere)

christine2448
09-23-2008, 07:26 PM
Very interesting find and awesome sleuthing!


I don't get this statement:

This same person known as a victim associated with the above case.

Who's the friend?

A friend attending a group I attend said ,”I know him”

I thought the friend knew him..but here she states SHE went to school with him and describes him. :confused:

She states he is much older than the Doesnet estimates.
HE was raised in Maysville N C. She states she went to the same school.She states he walked with a limp because of what she thinks is a birth defect. He was a frequent customer at a store she worked.She says he was a small time drug dealer who always attended concerts.He was a hippy type.HE wore the rock shirts.She even stated that he talk with a nasal twang .He was known to hang out in the JACKSONVILLE NC area. She said he attended Whiteoak High School. in abt.1972.His hair was carrot top red, curly, and down to his shoulders, HE was really thin and average ht. He was possibly named Sullivan or Summerlin.SHE SAId THE NAME JASON DOES NOT JOG HER MEMORY. If she can locate her school annual.she will contact me.IF ANY OF YOU CAN CHECK OUT birth records for Jones Co. in Trenton NC. or have a WHITE OAK H S ANNUAL.


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Debbie Miller
12-24-2008, 09:07 AM
Even if she wasn't sure about the 1972 part, and was perhaps off by a couple of years, it would still put "Jason" ridiculously past the estimated age range. I could see him being born around 1972 (making him about 23 when he died) but I can't imagine a medical examiner/other specialists looking at the body of a 35-40 year old man and concluding he could be as young as 16, and not older than his early 20's.

But hell, crazy things happen. If our Doe looks so much like some guy that went to this high school, maybe it is a relative of his. Can't hurt to take a look.

I don't think the ME would make a mistake about his age. Also the poster states she thinks he had a birth defect that made him have a limp. That would have been found too at the autopsy, if a complete autopsy was done.

I am just going on past descriptions of UID's that state "may have walked with a limp"

bev_04
03-02-2009, 06:04 PM
Has myspace been checked out? As in the people that graduated from that HS on myspace been contacted? I just did a search and there are 38 people ages 50 and up..

Shecky
03-12-2009, 02:11 AM
I don't think the ME would make a mistake about his age. Also the poster states she thinks he had a birth defect that made him have a limp. That would have been found too at the autopsy, if a complete autopsy was done.

I am just going on past descriptions of UID's that state "may have walked with a limp"

Exactly. Especially when you consider that, given how soon his body was recovered after he was killed, that the medical examiner would have been looking at a "complete" body. We're not talking about skeletal remains or even remains that have been exposed to the elements for months -- in those cases, I can imagine that age estimates can be a little more difficult to narrow down. Severe injuries from the accident aside, I'm still sure that to trained medical professionals, it was obvious that they were looking at the body of a young man.

I'm not going to ridicule someone if they want to devote their time to pursuing this tip, but personally I see it as very implausible.

eeyorelrn
08-18-2009, 12:01 PM
http://mylifeofcrime.wordpress.com/2...#comment-44484

I am posting this comment page again.... The comment made on 7-24-09

"i showed this photo to a freind.she stated the photo was a customer at a store she worked in in jacksonville nc . she could not remember the name. i have not been able to locate any more info. has anyone else?"

Does anyone know if LE has been contacted about this information?!?!?!?

chaddylex
08-19-2009, 01:46 PM
Did anyone ever think to look on Facebook to see if White Oak HS had a page? (I can't access facebook, I'm at work and it's blocked) - If they would, maybe a picture can be posted on the page to see if anyone recognizes him??

Lil'E
12-04-2009, 07:48 AM
Does the ME automatically do a bone scan? If Jason was under 20 years old an X Ray would show growth plates.

Debbie Miller
12-05-2009, 01:55 AM
I thought I had heard somewhere that Jason's parents wanted nothing to do with him and they knew about his death, but won't come forward to claim him.

Spacemonkey1975
12-08-2009, 10:54 PM
I thought I had heard somewhere that Jason's parents wanted nothing to do with him and they knew about his death, but won't come forward to claim him.

That is one of the theories Marylandmissing had floated; I believe contact with an investigator or someting had indicated they received a call wondering what happened if someone came forward to ID a body as family, the sense was they either couldn't afford or be bothered with arrangements and were estranged.

GumDrop
12-21-2009, 03:22 AM
I found this message on a Canadian missing person message board. It struck me not only because of the name and age but, the way it's worded. To me it sounds like the writer has not seen her brother since he was 13. I wonder who stated he hadn't been seen for months? (My mind is wandering now) Maybe he was presumed a runaway or perhaps his father thought he went back to his mother's...
I tried to register but for someone reason it's not working. I would just ask when was the last time she or her mother spoke to him. It may be a long shot, but...

http://peoplelookingforpeople.com/read.php?6,330

Helper
12-22-2009, 04:46 PM
That message was posted in Sept. 2007. The father had died in April 2007 and Jason had been missing "for months" at that time. Grateful Doe died in 1995. It's safe to say that this is not our Jason.

Debbie Miller
08-08-2010, 01:50 AM
The high school is less than an hour from here.

If they do come up with a yearbook and you need someone to pick it up and scan it, let me know.

Most libraries carry local yearbooks for the highschools. Just a FYI

masnitram
05-27-2012, 12:30 AM
White Oak HS has yearbooks available online for 1972, 1974, 1975, 1978, and 1986 on Classmates.com. I don't follow this case very closely, but for those who do you can sign up for free to get access to view the yearbooks. Here is a link for the 1972 yearbook.

http://www.classmates.com/yearbooks/White-Oak-High-School/159316?page=1#