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Suzie002
09-06-2008, 02:52 AM
that would explain why nobody saw the other people or the clown car! But I wonder why nobody came forward to say they saw KC rolling around on the ground trying to wrestle with herself while Caylee stood by watching for awhile, before deciding to run away and find a less loony mom....:crazy:

Oh My Goodness, this is the first time I have stopped being sad enough to laugh so hard I am crying. Thank you for this!

LaLaw2000
09-06-2008, 02:54 AM
Is she that stupid? Never mind, yes she is.. LE can and will find electronic footprints of Casey typing and printing that script off on the computer in her room while she was out on bail.

Why would Zanny the nanny and sister sam give her a script to purposefully point the finger to themselves? Or will she claim she wasn't following the script?

Noway Jose is even more stupid to believe this script story.

I honestly think it was a script written by the Anthony family to INCLUDE Zenaida and sister Samantha. That is after Casey killed Caylee, after George found out about it and hid Caylee's body, and after Lee and Cindy found out! Then they had to write a script and stick to it. It was always supposed to be a script for all of them to follow, but they have found out the hard way that LE doesn't follow a script! I am sure they thought they had covered all the bases - NOT!

LaLaw2000
09-06-2008, 02:59 AM
So with this theory, at the "scene" we'd have three women (including KC) and three children other than Caylee. I think it's pretty simply. Multiple Personality Disorder and the inner child of each seperate personality.

:eek:


:eek::eek::eek:

Geeze! THREE Casey's? Oh, please no! I cannot take 3 of them!

LOL, I used to tell my husband I thought he had a split personality and that I did not like either of him!

LaLaw2000
09-06-2008, 03:02 AM
Let's not forget sister Sam had her THREE young kids with her, too. Were they the look outs? Try chasing around 3 kids at a park. Then to "kidnap" a 4th to chase around, too?? oh, and get them all 4 in car seats with 2 adults with no one seeing you while KC lays on the ground (after being knocked down, of course, reading her script so she knew what to do??) Was she ever taught to call 9-1-1 on her 2 cell phones or one of her three ex-cop boyfriends, or ex-cop dad??? :banghead:

:clap::clap::clap:

I think you just proved why there was no kidnapping, LOL!

Thinking_Out_Loud
09-06-2008, 03:41 AM
"Zanny the Nanny," and "Sister Sam"...

Good grief what is up with the rhymes and alliterations? WOW, that is so sing-songish. Maybe Casey really is a schizophrenic....

MysteryMachine
09-06-2008, 04:53 AM
"Zanny the Nanny," and "Sister Sam"...

Good grief what is up with the rhymes and alliterations? WOW, that is so sing-songish. Maybe Casey really is a schizophrenic....


Casey the Crook, Crazy Casey, Casey the Criminal, Con-artist Casey, Corrupt Casey, Convict Casey, lol

MysteryMachine
09-06-2008, 05:08 AM
I think she was busy lying there on the ground thinking of how woman groping and pole dancing would probably help her out in this situation.... and if that didn't work, surely bedhopping would!!! Because she was determined to handle it on her own, so that would be the obvious way!!!

You are on to something! And I bet Zanny the Nanny, Sister Sam and the 3 kids also frequented the pole dancing bar, so that is why she checked there so often "looking for them".

The bed hopping finally makes sense, too. We read how KC allowed Caylee to sleep in bed with her and the boyfriends. I bet KC ran all over town checking beds for her! While there in the bed, one thing led to another. :banghead:

monoxide
09-06-2008, 06:00 AM
The script had to say something like "get drunk as %$## every single day and all night"

"She doesn't drink" GA says :)

dreamweaver
09-06-2008, 09:10 AM
KC claimed that she and ZFG had been friends for four years, and nanny for 18 months. And NOBODY-- no friend, no family member, no human entity, had ever seen ZFG. What're the chances?

KC also claimed that Jeff Hopkins introduced KC to ZFG, and ZFG babysat Caylee and Jeff's baby, together. But, Jeff told the cops he vaguely knew KC from high school, and had not seen her, since then.

There IS not ZFG.

Another thread posted pointed out that Zanny the Nanny is a fictional character in a children's book. BTW.

_________________________________________________
I read that Casey's childhood friend lived across the street or very close by the Sawgrass Apts and that she baby sat ZFG children. The children's names are noted in the docs. The website for ZFG has her children's pictures and names. Casey could have 'borrowed' all the information.

Am I just imagining this?

This case is becoming more convoluted as time passes.
I try to pick out the kernels of truth from all the rest. But.?

dreamweaver
09-06-2008, 09:14 AM
Of course the script would have told her "don't cry or show any concern whatsoever and feel up as many girls as possible at Fusian on Friday June 20th"

The closest thing to this I have ever heard about was a case where an inmate gave instructions to some lady to murder some friend they had in common.

For once Casey seems to have an original idea!
__________________________________________________ __________

But, it was Leonard P who said Casey told him about the script.
And, although I think he has done some good in this case, he also has
made contradictory statements about how often he was in the Anthony's house, how often he spoke to Casey, so maybe this is no actual script.
?

shefner
09-06-2008, 09:31 AM
Last night on 20/20 (oops, maybe it was NG-I watched both), LP spoke of being in the Anthony home and overhearing Casey giving this story to those who were present (not necessarily to him). He said she told those there that the nanny and her sister held her down on the ground and took Caylee. They told her to follow a script, which they provided, if she talked to family or police. If she veered from the script, something bad would happen to Caylee and she would never see her again. LP said that as he heard this, he realized this girl had serious problems--maybe he had made a mistake getting her out.

monoxide
09-06-2008, 09:46 AM
Last night on 20/20 (oops, maybe it was NG-I watched both), LP spoke of being in the Anthony home and overhearing Casey giving this story to those who were present (not necessarily to him). He said she told those there that the nanny and her sister held her down on the ground and took Caylee. They told her to follow a script, which they provided, if she talked to family or police. If she veered from the script, something bad would happen to Caylee and she would never see her again. LP said that as he heard this, he realized this girl had serious problems--maybe he had made a mistake getting her out.

That was on 20/20........no interview though whats up with that? It said interview right on the tv guide

Blackwatch
09-06-2008, 10:49 AM
I honestly think it was a script written by the Anthony family to INCLUDE Zenaida and sister Samantha. That is after Casey killed Caylee, after George found out about it and hid Caylee's body, and after Lee and Cindy found out! Then they had to write a script and stick to it. It was always supposed to be a script for all of them to follow, but they have found out the hard way that LE doesn't follow a script! I am sure they thought they had covered all the bases - NOT!

Very good, in my opinion. The only thing I'd change is, "That is after Casey killed Caylee. . ." I've never been totally sure Casey did kill Caylee.

Remember the 911 call where Casey stressed it had been 31 days since she'd seen her daughter? A little reference to the "script" perhaps?

In my opinion, of course.

yolorado
09-06-2008, 11:23 AM
Very good, in my opinion. The only thing I'd change is, "That is after Casey killed Caylee. . ." I've never been totally sure Casey did kill Caylee.

Remember the 911 call where Casey stressed it had been 31 days since she'd seen her daughter? A little reference to the "script" perhaps?

In my opinion, of course.

The script thingy is probably what she came up with in jail trying to get her out of some of her first lies. But she forgets than SHE didn't call in to report Caylee missing, Caylee's grandma did that after she discovered Casey, an event I don't think Casey was ready for yet. I think Caylee's mom was planning another cover story to account for the missing baby but I don't think she'd finished yet. For all we know, Casey, if left to her own devises, wouldn't have called to report Caylee missing after 60 days or 90, or never. We had the Aarone Thompson case here in Colorado where it took maybe a couple of years for anyone to notice they were missing a kid and to start asking questions (and a couple more years to arrest someone.) Children are sort of at the mercy of their parents here. If parents move or tell stories, the baby could go unaccounted for a long time. Personally, I think Cindy would have come after Casey for Caylee no matter what she did or where she went, which is why I think Casey knew she needed to come up with something good...just hadn't been able to do that yet...and was having too much fun at the clubs and sleeping around to work on it much...probably isn't that smart. After all, she's a pathalogical liar not an author or profiler. She's really not much of a 'think-ahead,' planning sort of person. And her lies have always worked for her before but she really isn't a great liar, even though she was sometimes elaborate. It's just that the stakes had never been this high before, and in the past, she's been able to slide by. In a situation where people really started asking hard questions and demanding answers that made sense, her level of skill wasn't anywhere near up to it.

Back to the park kidnapping with the script. Where is the script? Is there actually one, or was it lost with the phone, left in a random bed somewhere or baked into the brownies? If there is a physical script, it wouldn't have been composed on Casey's or an other Anthony's computer, would it by any chance? It was past thirty days when Cindy called the police, why not tell the cops? She also forgets that she has no way to prove the ZFG EVER lived anywhere in Orlando. I'm guessing that they never talked on the phone or exchanged e-mails to arrange baby-sitting, or has any other proof that "Zanny The Nanny" ever existed, except possibly in book form. Why on earth would someone trust a phatom babysitter, without an address or phone number who held you down and took your kid more than the police? Why would anyone not co-operate to help find their baby...unless they were trying to escape prosecution? Kidnappers could be selling your baby and the trail is getting colder by the second. They could be shooting porn with her as the star. They could be raping her, killing her. Why on earth wouldn't you tell the police, convince them that you had nothing to hide and get them looking immediately by giving them truthful, veryifiable information about the last time you saw your baby and with whom?! Unless you had something really bad to hide.

Lexington
09-06-2008, 12:08 PM
I believe this story came from LP. So, you should consider the source. That's all I will say.

websurfer
09-06-2008, 12:17 PM
The to go on further and say that Casey says:

She met
Samantha [sister of zenaida]
also with Zenaida
plus the 3 kids were there?

Then upon stealing Caylee and before driving off in a silver car?

one of them handed her a script to follow for 30 days ??

What?:crazy:

Where was everyone else there at BLANCHARD PARk?
Where Casey says she also lost her cell phone?

websurfer
09-06-2008, 12:20 PM
That was on 20/20........no interview though whats up with that? It said interview right on the tv guide


Did she toss it out or keep it to follow?
Oh I think the script told her to go and dance and enter a HOT BODY Contest at Fusion.
Since S & Z must have known she would do it ?
:rolleyes:

yolorado
09-06-2008, 12:22 PM
I believe this story came from LP. So, you should consider the source. That's all I will say.
That's true. He doesn't seem to be completely right on in his observations. He would probably be truthful about conversations he had with Casey, maybe, but he hasn't provided to be much of an ace investigator up to this point. Wonder if he took the B Park story to the police.

DianeB
09-06-2008, 12:32 PM
I think it's interesting that Casey referred to it as a "script" to be followed, and not instructions.

Apparently she thinks her life is a movie.

magic-cat
09-06-2008, 01:08 PM
Casey's lies are coming apart like a badly crocheted afghan...one knot is not tied up properly and stitch by stitch the entire work will come undone...

Ian Malcom: "There are no versions of the truth"

There is ONE truth, and all the rest is nothing but lies. LE is searching vigorously for that ONE truth, and along the way, the "afghan" that Casey put together so poorly is unraveling at an alarming rate, until in the end she will be left with nothing but a long string of useless yarn and no needle to weave it back into something new.

This "script" story is her making an attempt to tie a knot in the unraveling yarn and allow it to remain similar to the thing that she had created in the beginning...But it is not going to work.

magic-cat
09-06-2008, 01:10 PM
Recall from the phone call when she said there was nothing to know, not even what she told the police?...

That comment has stuck in my mind from the beginning...she just kind of blatantly admits right there that not one word she has said is even true...

armywife210
09-06-2008, 01:11 PM
You are on to something! And I bet Zanny the Nanny, Sister Sam and the 3 kids also frequented the pole dancing bar, so that is why she checked there so often "looking for them".

The bed hopping finally makes sense, too. We read how KC allowed Caylee to sleep in bed with her and the boyfriends. I bet KC ran all over town checking beds for her! While there in the bed, one thing led to another. :banghead:

well yea, it's only natural. WHERE could she be hiding? She has to check everywhere ya know!

armywife210
09-06-2008, 01:13 PM
Last night on 20/20 (oops, maybe it was NG-I watched both), LP spoke of being in the Anthony home and overhearing Casey giving this story to those who were present (not necessarily to him). He said she told those there that the nanny and her sister held her down on the ground and took Caylee. They told her to follow a script, which they provided, if she talked to family or police. If she veered from the script, something bad would happen to Caylee and she would never see her again. LP said that as he heard this, he realized this girl had serious problems--maybe he had made a mistake getting her out.

he figured that out all by himself did he?

armywife210
09-06-2008, 01:18 PM
Oh My Goodness, this is the first time I have stopped being sad enough to laugh so hard I am crying. Thank you for this!

It's the mental image isn't it??? hehe

Lexington
09-06-2008, 01:31 PM
__________________________________________________ __________

But, it was Leonard P who said Casey told him about the script.
And, although I think he has done some good in this case, he also has
made contradictory statements about how often he was in the Anthony's house, how often he spoke to Casey, so maybe this is no actual script.
?


Exactly, no script. He said last week that he spoke to Casey once, when she got in the car after he bailed her out. She mumbled a thank you and that was all she ever said to him.

SuziQ
09-06-2008, 01:41 PM
Evidently she told basically the same story to Rob Dick. IMO, he seems on the up and up.

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7372388&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

(snip)
According to Dick, the story Casey told him was that she had left Caylee with Zanida Fernandez –Gonzalez and Gonzalez’s sister Samantha at Blanchard Park in East Orange County, and according to Dick, Casey Anthony was given a ‘script’ to use for 30 days that would be used to explain Caylee’s disappearance to Casey’s parents and the authorities

SeriouslySearching
09-06-2008, 01:45 PM
I wonder if this "script" was written up on Casey's computer along with all those emails she sent to herself.

I admit I have not even glanced at this thread since to me it is such a ridiculous story.

magiemay
09-06-2008, 01:58 PM
Oh my, I never heard about a "script" Casey was suppose to follow. There are just to many elements in this case to keep up with. Did she ever say what the "script" said she should do during these 30 days?

Casey should have used her imagination to write novels instead. :furious:
well said pinkypoo !!! I have thought the whole family has missed their calling could have been rich with novels movies and such !!!

servingothers
09-06-2008, 03:09 PM
I only remember it mentioned briefly, I *think* while KC was out of jail?!

That was the latest "theory" or "help" she came up with?!

Maybe someone else can expand on this. I don't remember there being much of a roar over it (unless someone was laughing hysterically at the ridiculousness of it!)


I first heard of the "script" last night on Greta. LP said it. If it was not Greta, then it was Nancy. I watched both last night and that was the first I heard of it.

LP said that Casey said ZG's older sister, Samatha, took Caylee from Blanchard Park and said to follow the script for 30 days as they drove off.

This case is really complicated. One minute I think Casey killed her on an accident and then I think that there is something really sinister going on and that there are others involved. Sometimes I think that Casey got herself in over her head with some powerful people. There sure seems to be many to come bail her out of jail. Someone doesn't want her in there. Hummm
something just "aint" right.

yolorado
09-06-2008, 03:12 PM
I think it's interesting that Casey referred to it as a "script" to be followed, and not instructions.

Apparently she thinks her life is a movie.

Perhaps her Juliet Lewis personality was in charge at the time and itching to play a role, so much so that her Zanny and Sister Sam alters wrote one for her.

heartfortruth
09-06-2008, 03:52 PM
I wonder if this "script" was written up on Casey's computer along with all those emails she sent to herself.

I admit I have not even glanced at this thread since to me it is such a ridiculous story.

I wish someone with the skills to do so (NOT ME , FOR SURE!) would put together a "script" , timeline ........of all the different "explanations" and their DATES...that KC and G and C ....have given for CAYLEE'S disappearance.... my head spins trying to keep up......maybe it's here somewhere and I don't see it........

Friptzap
09-06-2008, 04:30 PM
When, what day? did she leave Caylee at the park?

Did she leave her? as reported by Rob? or was she taken?

According to the script "For the next 30 days, you read this to law enforcement"

SO if she left her/they took her whatever on the 16th then the phone call where Casey is on the phone on the 24th yelling to Caylee to get down off the table was a lie by her friend OR Casey was faking it.

IF she left her/they took her whatever after the 24th then why on the 15th of July is she claiming to have been looking for her for 30days?

There are three immidiate stories here contradicting each other big time. PLUS she screwed up following the script in the first place it says clearly "For the next 30 days, you read this to law enforcement" She did not START TELLING LE until after 30days (if 16th) or AFTER 15days (if 24th)

She is starting to loose track of her own lies and will desperatly need the internet to review them all and get her story line down pat!!!

websurfer
09-07-2008, 06:01 AM
When, what day? did she leave Caylee at the park?

Did she leave her? as reported by Rob? or was she taken?

According to the script "For the next 30 days, you read this to law enforcement"

SO if she left her/they took her whatever on the 16th then the phone call where Casey is on the phone on the 24th yelling to Caylee to get down off the table was a lie by her friend OR Casey was faking it.

IF she left her/they took her whatever after the 24th then why on the 15th of July is she claiming to have been looking for her for 30days?

There are three immidiate stories here contradicting each other big time. PLUS she screwed up following the script in the first place it says clearly "For the next 30 days, you read this to law enforcement" She did not START TELLING LE until after 30days (if 16th) or AFTER 15days (if 24th)

She is starting to loose track of her own lies and will desperatly need the internet to review them all and get her story line down pat!!!


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Ok one thing most people seem to forget is this:

If the CAR had not been left to ROT [literally] on the Amscot lot.
This would not be unfolding now...
Cindy would not have gotten a notice that it was towed to the tow yard, Casey would still be pretending Caylee was with the Grandparents & babysitter.

I wonder if the car had been left in a more secluded area and had not been found,how long casey would have continued with her fantastic story?

Would I like to think nothing has happened to caylee? Sure I would.
:rolleyes:
The initial happenings keep coming to my mind, regardless of my hopes ,my wishes, facts speak for themselves.
Caylee went missing, Casey stole from parents & friends to maintain her lifestyle, and in my humble opinion just flipped out.

A mentally deranged person can't be blamed for actions they can not control. If soon the defense does not start seriously analyzing her mental condition, well, she is off balance and should be treated for whatever her sondition is.

I am not excusing Casey, I am only saying she is off balance.
she needs help.:waitasec: If she does not get help, we may never know where she left Caylee for real.

She seems like she would just walk her into woods and leave her there and walk away . I doubt she would actually kill her.

by the way Floridians...
be safe during the landfall of IKE.:blowkiss:

monoxide
09-07-2008, 06:28 AM
This is the bad thing about L Padilla and his crew. It is very hard to say if they are telling the truth or not. If they are not then I would suspect somebody besides Casey doing research on that Zenaidia(spelling) that went to Sawgrass. One of the other members of the family could've been finding information on the Zanny that went to Sawgrass and then came up with this theory and then relayed everything to Casey to make it look good. Unless Casey knew her or did research on her herself.

Hope that makes sense

Brini
09-07-2008, 07:55 AM
I first heard of the "script" last night on Greta. LP said it. If it was not Greta, then it was Nancy. I watched both last night and that was the first I heard of it.

LP said that Casey said ZG's older sister, Samatha, took Caylee from Blanchard Park and said to follow the script for 30 days as they drove off.

This case is really complicated. One minute I think Casey killed her on an accident and then I think that there is something really sinister going on and that there are others involved. Sometimes I think that Casey got herself in over her head with some powerful people. There sure seems to be many to come bail her out of jail. Someone doesn't want her in there. Hummm
something just "aint" right.

Her parents bailed her out of jail, this last time.

The time before was the bounty hunter.

Brini
09-07-2008, 08:06 AM
I wish someone with the skills to do so (NOT ME , FOR SURE!) would put together a "script" , timeline ........of all the different "explanations" and their DATES...that KC and G and C ....have given for CAYLEE'S disappearance.... my head spins trying to keep up......maybe it's here somewhere and I don't see it........


No, the problem is that you are a logical, normal, thinking person.

CA even changes her story in mid-paragraph. Who can follow that?

Cindy reported that the car smelled like decomp. By the end of the third call it was pizza. Now, she's a "decomposition nurse."

I'm a nurse. I wasn't aware that we could TREAT decomposition.

She went from "I couldn't reach KC" to "we spoke, or texted every day" in three or four sentences.

With KC, first we had Col. Mustard, in th Libraby, with the Candlestick (Sorry! Old "Clue" joke.) Then, we had Zanny the Nanny in the empty apartment. When that didn't work, it bacame Zanny and Sam and three toddlers, or maybe three teenagers in the park. Next, it may be that Caylee was kidnapped by little, green, aliens from the mother ship-- who knows?

\My guess is that by the time we get to court, the story will have morphed a few more times. My other guess is that some poor cop has the permutations all graphed out, on a limeline.

Brini
09-07-2008, 08:10 AM
===============================

Ok one thing most people seem to forget is this:

If the CAR had not been left to ROT [literally] on the Amscot lot.
This would not be unfolding now...
Cindy would not have gotten a notice that it was towed to the tow yard, Casey would still be pretending Caylee was with the Grandparents & babysitter.

I wonder if the car had been left in a more secluded area and had not been found,how long casey would have continued with her fantastic story?

Would I like to think nothing has happened to caylee? Sure I would.
:rolleyes:
The initial happenings keep coming to my mind, regardless of my hopes ,my wishes, facts speak for themselves.
Caylee went missing, Casey stole from parents & friends to maintain her lifestyle, and in my humble opinion just flipped out.

A mentally deranged person can't be blamed for actions they can not control. If soon the defense does not start seriously analyzing her mental condition, well, she is off balance and should be treated for whatever her sondition is.

I am not excusing Casey, I am only saying she is off balance.
she needs help.:waitasec: If she does not get help, we may never know where she left Caylee for real.

She seems like she would just walk her into woods and leave her there and walk away . I doubt she would actually kill her.

by the way Floridians...
be safe during the landfall of IKE.:blowkiss:

I don''t think she murdered Caylee. I just think she's careless and irresponsible.

But, I think she's a sociopath. Sociopathy is not treatable, at this point. It's more a maturational deficiency than a mental illness, though it is listed in the DSM.

LaLaw2000
09-07-2008, 09:09 AM
Go by a script for the next 30 days? Then what?

IMO, there is a script alright - written by the Anthony's!

jon_burrows
09-07-2008, 09:23 AM
This is the bad thing about L Padilla and his crew. It is very hard to say if they are telling the truth or not. If they are not then I would suspect somebody besides Casey doing research on that Zenaidia(spelling) that went to Sawgrass. One of the other members of the family could've been finding information on the Zanny that went to Sawgrass and then came up with this theory and then relayed everything to Casey to make it look good. Unless Casey knew her or did research on her herself.

Hope that makes sense

Especially when Leonard contradicts himself. First he claimed that he never spoke to Casey after he got her out. Now he has a more interesting story. He says Casey tried the "Zanny" story on him and he told her to stop...he didn't believe her....tell him the truth. Then she tells him to, "Get out of my house."

diz39
09-07-2008, 09:25 AM
No, the problem is that you are a logical, normal, thinking person.

CA even changes her story in mid-paragraph. Who can follow that?

Cindy reported that the car smelled like decomp. By the end of the third call it was pizza. Now, she's a "decomposition nurse."

I'm a nurse. I wasn't aware that we could TREAT decomposition.

She went from "I couldn't reach KC" to "we spoke, or texted every day" in three or four sentences.

With KC, first we had Col. Mustard, in th Libraby, with the Candlestick (Sorry! Old "Clue" joke.) Then, we had Zanny the Nanny in the empty apartment. When that didn't work, it bacame Zanny and Sam and three toddlers, or maybe three teenagers in the park. Next, it may be that Caylee was kidnapped by little, green, aliens from the mother ship-- who knows?

\My guess is that by the time we get to court, the story will have morphed a few more times. My other guess is that some poor cop has the permutations all graphed out, on a limeline.

I, too, am a nurse, and I know we did not cover decomposition treatment in school. I am constantly amazed the way the story keeps changing and becomes crazier and crazier. Can they honestly believe the crap they shovel? Evidently they do, because they are able to bald face lie in any situation. I shake my head in disbelief.

momof6
09-07-2008, 09:44 AM
Sorry but bounty hunter is not being honest on this.
He keeps spinning more stories and I don't believe this was ever said.
He is doing one thing ,theorizing just as much of America is doing!

cacnotcam
09-07-2008, 10:36 AM
The script had to say something like "get drunk as %$## every single day and all night"

"She doesn't drink" GA says :)

:Banane35::toastred: LOL! Ok GA!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!

diz39
09-07-2008, 10:49 AM
Sorry but bounty hunter is not being honest on this.
He keeps spinning more stories and I don't believe this was ever said.
He is doing one thing ,theorizing just as much of America is doing!


Must agree with you on this one, mom. Uncle Lenny has a stake in this as well, and his info must be viewed with a jaundiced eye. IIRC, he stated that CA did not talk at all to him. Now that he is off the bond, he said on NG the other night that she started telling him the handoff of kid at Blanchard Park. Which is it, LP?

Friptzap
09-07-2008, 03:39 PM
No, the problem is that you are a logical, normal, thinking person.

CA even changes her story in mid-paragraph. Who can follow that?

Cindy reported that the car smelled like decomp. By the end of the third call it was pizza. Now, she's a "decomposition nurse."

I'm a nurse. I wasn't aware that we could TREAT decomposition.

She went from "I couldn't reach KC" to "we spoke, or texted every day" in three or four sentences.

With KC, first we had Col. Mustard, in th Libraby, with the Candlestick (Sorry! Old "Clue" joke.) Then, we had Zanny the Nanny in the empty apartment. When that didn't work, it bacame Zanny and Sam and three toddlers, or maybe three teenagers in the park. Next, it may be that Caylee was kidnapped by little, green, aliens from the mother ship-- who knows?

\My guess is that by the time we get to court, the story will have morphed a few more times. My other guess is that some poor cop has the permutations all graphed out, on a limeline.


She did not mean to say she was a nurse of decomposition.

Can't recall exact quote but its something like this:
"There was a smell, I am a nurse, of decomposition..."

add the commas appropriatly and what she said makes sense to her demeanor at the time, she was just speaking fast...

simplesimon
09-07-2008, 04:08 PM
How come if the people that have Caylee are being watched as George said, they do not know if she is in Puerto Rico or Mexico or wherever else Cindy said
And maybe by now someone could have moved in to get Caylee?

impatientredhead
09-07-2008, 04:59 PM
I don''t think she murdered Caylee. I just think she's careless and irresponsible.

But, I think she's a sociopath. Sociopathy is not treatable, at this point. It's more a maturational deficiency than a mental illness, though it is listed in the DSM.

I have tried so hard to wrap my mind around this idea that it was an accident (since it is a thought held by so many here). But try as a might I don't get it. Maybe my opinion of people in general is low or I am cynical. My husband, who does not really follow the case but is stuck hearing it from me because nobody else I know is following it, said he thought it was an accident. I asked him on the ride to the office this morning if he had accidently killed one of our dogs (I used his favorite as an example) could he get rid of the body before I got home and just be back to happy go lucky behavior. That conversation ended abruptly as the thought of accidently killing his DOG upset him.

Eating, drinking, have sex, ordering pizza, looking at apartments, partying and never ever word about what happened. She wasn't upset! People asked her about her daughter, who she under this theory unintentionally killed, and not one time to she well up, excuse herself, or fall apart. She talked to her mom who wanted to see or speak to Caylee and that had no effect on her.

I have never seen anyone act like that who didn't kill the person for their own personal gain/gratification.

BeavisMom62
09-07-2008, 05:02 PM
Was the "script" for Xanax!! And 30 days...as in 30 day supply. Sorry, had to say it. I know it was supposed to mean that Casey was supposed to follow specific orders written by Zanny the Nanny, but it really does sound odd when you think about it. I'm not implying that it really was a prescrition, just thought it was strange....like everything else in this case. I apologize if someone else has already made this comparision to the "script".

Good one! :clap::clap:

belleyes
09-17-2008, 12:01 PM
It's amazing that the time frame in the "script" just happens to coincide with the time frame of her not reporting Caylee missing. This might have been 1/2 credible (NOT!) if she would have contacted the police after the "30 days". She didn't CA did.(so did CA have a "script" too-----just kidding!)

Crabcake23
09-17-2008, 12:40 PM
I don't believe any of Casey's story, especially the script part, but let's just play along. If she had this "Script" to follow, then when did she get it and how? At what point in Casey's search at malls and nightclubs did she stop her search and follow her script?

She's so full of crap. Does she really think that she's fooling anyone?

Maddywv
09-17-2008, 12:50 PM
How does Casey know ZG looked at an apt at the Sawgrass? Someone had to give her this info.

Crabcake23
09-17-2008, 12:52 PM
If it weren't for the decomp evidence in the car, there's a part of me that would be tempted to believe Casey sold Caylee. She obviously liked money and obviously didn't give two hoots for Caylee.



Exactly what I was thinking. That actually would have made more sense. Mad her her parents? Needs money? Wants freedom? Sell the baby. But now with decomp in the trunk, well, that blew that theory away.

poco
09-17-2008, 01:13 PM
What is really really strange about the note is that it started out by saying "We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction." I find that quite odd.

VickiInLongwood
09-17-2008, 01:26 PM
[QUOTE=strach304;2628768]I know people aren't taking this as fact because only LP has said it and he has said she didn't talk to him at all. After reading the documents I have no doubt that she concocted this story when the other one wasn't believed.

Possibly she didn't say that to him but LP has been coming up with quite a bit of information that has been true. No doubt in my mind he has a source or sources and that's why he said she told him.

OK..OK.. LP said KC told her mother this story and CA relayed it to him and also KC told R. Dick.

IMO it's very simple. LEOs had already questioned her and during that session pointed out to her that there was videotape at Sawgrass and she was not there....so she knows she has to change her story...a little. They also asked her repeatedly WHY she had not contacted anyone all this time....so she knows she has to explain that as well. It takes a fool to come up with these lame explanations, and a complete moron to believe it, BUT KC knew she needed to change a few parts. NO wonder Baez keeps her at his office. He probably slammed his head on his desk repeatedly when he heard this crap. Again, JMHO.:boohoo::boohoo:

tttterri
09-17-2008, 01:32 PM
I still would like to know what all papers Casey had left in her car when it was left at Amscot. From le docs, there were some loose papers in with the trash bag that held the pizza box, there was a black leather bag with a belt that had papers inside, and there was a binder with loose papers inside of it. One paper in the car was Amys job resume. Casey went to cashing checks of Amys on July 8 so perhaps some of these papers would have been George and Cindys business papers. I am very curious as to what papers were in that trash bag also. Casey sure had rounded up a lot of paper collections. Amazingly, must not have been real important because she left them.

strach304
09-17-2008, 01:40 PM
What is really really strange about the note is that it started out by saying "We are a group of individuals that represent a small foreign faction." I find that quite odd.

What note? What did I miss? I never saw anything about seeing the script or is it something else?

faefrost
09-17-2008, 01:46 PM
[QUOTE=strach304;2628768]I know people aren't taking this as fact because only LP has said it and he has said she didn't talk to him at all. After reading the documents I have no doubt that she concocted this story when the other one wasn't believed.

Possibly she didn't say that to him but LP has been coming up with quite a bit of information that has been true. No doubt in my mind he has a source or sources and that's why he said she told him.

OK..OK.. LP said KC told her mother this story and CA relayed it to him and also KC told R. Dick.

IMO it's very simple. LEOs had already questioned her and during that session pointed out to her that there was videotape at Sawgrass and she was not there....so she knows she has to change her story...a little. They also asked her repeatedly WHY she had not contacted anyone all this time....so she knows she has to explain that as well. It takes a fool to come up with these lame explanations, and a complete moron to believe it, BUT KC knew she needed to change a few parts. NO wonder Baez keeps her at his office. He probably slammed his head on his desk repeatedly when he heard this crap. Again, JMHO.:boohoo::boohoo:

While LP said he didn't speak to her directly beynond that initial conversation where she threw him out of the house, I strongly suspect that he knows everything that was said in that house, outside of private conversation with the lawyers. I suspect that his female guard was probably wired, if just for her own and every one elses protection. The folks in the mobile home probably heard every word as well. Which leaves leonard a little confused about who the actual statements were said to. he heard them all real time.

Maddywv
09-17-2008, 01:53 PM
:HBwhiteflag:
What note? What did I miss? I never saw anything about seeing the script or is it something else?

I think this is a cross over mess up of the Ramsey ramson note

Gaia713
09-17-2008, 02:03 PM
I have been curious myself about where the "script" mention came from.

Here is another question that goes along with the "script"......

If they threatened her, gave her a script to follow, whatever the case maybe (not that any of this is real but playing Devil's Advocate here) wouldn't it make sense that given the amount of media attention this case has gotten, that the chances of finding Caylee alive at this point are slim to none? I do not understand why, IF there was a script) she did not turn it over to LE immediately. I bet she can't provide it either - mainly becasue it never existed..jmo

redtailhawk
09-17-2008, 02:10 PM
What note? What did I miss? I never saw anything about seeing the script or is it something else?


Hahahah....this is a reference to the ransom note left in the Ramsey house with regards to the death of Jon Benet Ramsey.

It was a pretty ridiculous ransom note to be sure!

kbay5
09-17-2008, 02:12 PM
What note? What did I miss? I never saw anything about seeing the script or is it something else?

I was thinking someone accidentally posted on the wrong board also but now I get it. Poco is using some witcasm, think about it and you will have a good laugh.:crazy:

marly56
09-17-2008, 02:18 PM
im sitting here reading post after post and my head is spinning..kc is a carbon copy of my younger sister lucy. the last time lucy came to visit me [not by invitation] she convinced me that she was an antique dealer.at first i was very curious about this new title. so i began questioning her, when did you become interested in antiques?..she convincingly told me she and her husband ''go antiqueing'' out in the midwest..she was very articulate about the locations of different county fairs...even dropped names of other dealers..gave me dates of sales of valuables..by the4th day she tried to convince me that even i had some very good antiques here in my little place. she tried to convince me to let her have a few of my [old] things for her to sell at next auction and she would get a good price. she once again had my head spinning..i firmly said no..by the time she left she had removed many of my precious family photographs. when i finally tracked her back at my mothers house i called my mother and asked to speak to her..she would not come to the phone..i told my mother what she took. my mother asked her about this ..and she very matter-of=factly said that i GAVE her the photos..she even got on the phone and said ''dont you remember'' ''you gave them to me'' she said ''you 110% gave them to me'' dont you remember? then at the end of the call while i was speaking with my mother..i heard lucy in the background saying to my mother'' you should see all the nice antiques marleen[me] has.''

hpvdr
09-17-2008, 02:23 PM
How ironic that Casey is given a script to follow for 30 days (not 10, not 20 but 30) and Cindy happens upon Casey after (let me guess) 30 days after being MIA. WOW what are the chances of that really happening??

dcorrigano
09-17-2008, 02:34 PM
I thought she was just making up more stories to get into Rob's pants...seriously...

maza
09-17-2008, 02:34 PM
im sitting here reading post after post and my head is spinning..kc is a carbon copy of my younger sister lucy. the last time lucy came to visit me [not by invitation] she convinced me that she was an antique dealer.at first i was very curious about this new title. so i began questioning her, when did you become interested in antiques?..she convincingly told me she and her husband ''go antiqueing'' out in the midwest..she was very articulate about the locations of different county fairs...even dropped names of other dealers..gave me dates of sales of valuables..by the4th day she tried to convince me that even i had some very good antiques here in my little place. she tried to convince me to let her have a few of my [old] things for her to sell at next auction and she would get a good price. she once again had my head spinning..i firmly said no..by the time she left she had removed many of my precious family photographs. when i finally tracked her back at my mothers house i called my mother and asked to speak to her..she would not come to the phone..i told my mother what she took. my mother asked her about this ..and she very matter-of=factly said that i GAVE her the photos..she even got on the phone and said ''dont you remember'' ''you gave them to me'' she said ''you 110% gave them to me'' dont you remember? then at the end of the call while i was speaking with my mother..i heard lucy in the background saying to my mother'' you should see all the nice antiques marleen[me] has.''

From your encounters, do you think your sister believes her own lies after the fact? also, is she quick with coming up with lies? Has she always been that way? Curious because of Casey's behaviour esp. with even pretending to go to offices at Universal when those people didn't work there anymore. I wonder if she "believed" they were there. I wouldn't be surprised if she wrote a script but now "believes" that it came from someone else. Related - I have always felt that OJ Simpson was guilty but came to genuinely believe his own story; to the point that the story is now his truth. Unfortunately, it appears the person Casey lies to the most is herself. I won't be surprised if the script magically appears.

Crafter
09-17-2008, 02:39 PM
LP said on NG while R*b was transporting CA to and from her caseworker that CA talked up a storm (my words). That CA freely talked about the weather, about Jay Blanchard Park, about the script and how CA, the baby was kidnapped. LP said that R*b was not allowed to ask questions because that was part of their contract agreement. CA just seemed to volunteer this information. But I agree, I think she was trying to impress R*b. And when I watch her and JB's interaction with each other I get a bad feeling. The way he smiles at her and holds her hand when they walk together, and CA cuddles right up with him and she has had her arms around him, too. I wouldn't be surprised if he gave her those rosary beads. IMO

Maddywv
09-17-2008, 02:45 PM
Script
Day1: Don't go to police. Party Hardy
Day2: Don't go to police. Party Hardy
Day3: Don't go to police. Party Hardy
Day4: Don't go to police. Party Hardy
ETC
Day 30: Get found by Mom. Take Police on wild goose chases.

marly56
09-17-2008, 02:45 PM
From your encounters, do you think your sister believes her own lies after the fact? also, is she quick with coming up with lies? Has she always been that way? Curious because of Casey's behaviour esp. with even pretending to go to offices at Universal when those people didn't work there anymore. I wonder if she "believed" they were there. I wouldn't be surprised if she wrote a script but now "believes" that it came from someone else. Related - I have always felt that OJ Simpson was guilty but came to genuinely believe his own story; to the point that the story is now his truth. Unfortunately, it appears the person Casey lies to the most is herself. I won't be surprised if the script magically appears.
to be honest my family ,myself included do not really know how lucy's mind works. she is an enigma [especially] to me. i love her very much.but because of the way she exists in her environments i do not trust her. she is highly intelligent...very sweet,very sexy, flirty,uninhibited and at the same time highly aware of just about everything. i also see a very cunning side to her..ironically she dated several po and they all thought she was as sweet as pie.

marly56
09-17-2008, 02:56 PM
additional....lucy seems [to me] to be missing something at her core. she does not recognize virtue,morals,truth,facts...as having any real meaning or substance..having a good time and being loved are important..moving from one person to the next, meeting new people VERY IMPORTANT. appearances important..diaries important..telling stories and telling lies are a second nature..does she know she is telling lies? yes...but it doesnt matter to her.. because words are only words and they get her what she's after.

boogiebear
09-17-2008, 03:07 PM
If the script was only for 30 days, then the script was done by the time she was arrested, and she should have had her child back. I have never heard of a kidnapper kidnap your child for 30 days, tell you to party hard, and then bring your child back. That sounds more like babysitting.

Kalie61
09-17-2008, 03:11 PM
The script story began with LP. He mentioned it on television. Somepeople say she keeps changing her story. Personaly I feel that LP is changing it for her.

It's a rumor nothing more.

Starfish
09-17-2008, 03:20 PM
OK, I am really new here and I am not sure of all the rules, so be gentle with me as I learn.
Where the H*E* Doulbe hockey sticks did this nonsense about handing over the baby to Zani and her sister at Blanchard park come from, and following a script for thirty days? Discuss.
On Nancy Grace, the Padilla body guard, Dick, said that Casey told him the script story.

Amster
09-17-2008, 03:37 PM
On Nancy Grace, the Padilla body guard, Dick, said that Casey told him the script story.

And, LP said he heard the new, revised story about the park and the script from Cindy.

Amberjack
09-17-2008, 03:39 PM
LP said on NG while R*b was transporting CA to and from her caseworker that CA talked up a storm (my words). That CA freely talked about the weather, about Jay Blanchard Park, about the script and how CA, the baby was kidnapped. LP said that R*b was not allowed to ask questions because that was part of their contract agreement. CA just seemed to volunteer this information. But I agree, I think she was trying to impress R*b. And when I watch her and JB's interaction with each other I get a bad feeling. The way he smiles at her and holds her hand when they walk together, and CA cuddles right up with him and she has had her arms around him, too. I wouldn't be surprised if he gave her those rosary beads. IMO


Yep, being too "social" with R*b.
And just too "close" to JB....

(I wonder what her job was
that she met all these other men & kept their attention?)

JMCDAD
09-17-2008, 04:20 PM
Did Casey ever mention the name ZG prior to all this happening
I mean I know no one ever met her and she has no proof of her existing but I think I remember Cindy saying she heard the nanny mentioned but never met her, did any one confirm Casey ever mentioned ZG prior to accusing her of taking Caylee

armywife210
09-17-2008, 04:38 PM
I don't believe any of Casey's story, especially the script part, but let's just play along. If she had this "Script" to follow, then when did she get it and how? At what point in Casey's search at malls and nightclubs did she stop her search and follow her script?

She's so full of crap. Does she really think that she's fooling anyone?

And not only that..... but that stupid "script" (not instructions, but a script, like for a movie or a play:rolleyes:) just wasn't important enough to hold on to so that LE could later use it to help find her baby!!! Perhaps she was told to memorize it in the next 30 seconds because after that it would explode... and so it did!

armywife210
09-17-2008, 04:45 PM
Did Casey ever mention the name ZG prior to all this happening
I mean I know no one ever met her and she has no proof of her existing but I think I remember Cindy saying she heard the nanny mentioned but never met her, did any one confirm Casey ever mentioned ZG prior to accusing her of taking Caylee

As far as I recall nobody had ever met her... which in itself is weird! Of course your family members are going to have met your child care provider! Atleast SOME of them!!! If only for emergency purposes, so they know where to pick up Caylee incase something happens and KC can't. But after all that time of having a child care provider, you can't tell me that CA never would have gone and picked up Caylee. It's not like KC was SOOO responsible... sheesh.
I believe that CA said both KC and Caylee had talked about ZG, but look at all of the cover up info that is being put out by the Anthony's! I really don't think that the Anthony's had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance during the fact, or even thereafter... but what CA doesn't realize is that by saying that ZG had been talked about before the disappearance, she is still covering for KC if in fact it's not true.
Did that make sense? lol

marly56
09-17-2008, 04:47 PM
after reading this thread and all the comical post, i have to say personally this is the funniest thread i have ever read on websleuths. from page one the comic visuals just snowballed.

marly56
09-17-2008, 04:50 PM
As far as I recall nobody had ever met her... which in itself is weird! Of course your family members are going to have met your child care provider! Atleast SOME of them!!! If only for emergency purposes, so they know where to pick up Caylee incase something happens and KC can't. But after all that time of having a child care provider, you can't tell me that CA never would have gone and picked up Caylee. It's not like KC was SOOO responsible... sheesh.
I believe that CA said both KC and Caylee had talked about ZG, but look at all of the cover up info that is being put out by the Anthony's! I really don't think that the Anthony's had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance during the fact, or even thereafter... but what CA doesn't realize is that by saying that ZG had been talked about before the disappearance, she is still covering for KC if in fact it's not true.
Did that make sense? lol
yes that makes sense

marly56
09-17-2008, 04:58 PM
what gp in their right mind not be concerned enough to not only meet the nanny but become close to the nanny sort of like an extention of the family...afterall this person is watching over your grandchild.

JMCDAD
09-17-2008, 05:01 PM
As far as I recall nobody had ever met her... which in itself is weird! Of course your family members are going to have met your child care provider! Atleast SOME of them!!! If only for emergency purposes, so they know where to pick up Caylee incase something happens and KC can't. But after all that time of having a child care provider, you can't tell me that CA never would have gone and picked up Caylee. It's not like KC was SOOO responsible... sheesh.
I believe that CA said both KC and Caylee had talked about ZG, but look at all of the cover up info that is being put out by the Anthony's! I really don't think that the Anthony's had anything to do with Caylee's disappearance during the fact, or even thereafter... but what CA doesn't realize is that by saying that ZG had been talked about before the disappearance, she is still covering for KC if in fact it's not true.
Did that make sense? lol

yes thanks, as much as anything can make sense with this case :crazy:

armywife210
09-17-2008, 05:58 PM
No joking! I think my earlier post on page 13 portraying KC rolling in the park fighting with herself... and Caylee ultimately deciding she is better off on her own and hightailing it out of there makes more sense than ANYTHING KC is saying!!! LOL
hehe, the clown car still makes me laugh. Geez, with all those people in the "clown car", I would think people would be hanging out the windows and the tires would go flat!!!!!!!!!!!

EEEP it wasn't on page 13, it was waayyy back! lol

armywife210
09-17-2008, 06:01 PM
what gp in their right mind not be concerned enough to not only meet the nanny but become close to the nanny sort of like an extention of the family...afterall this person is watching over your grandchild.

well exactly! And who was paying the woman???? And with what??? Check? Cash? KC didn't have an income!!!

JBean
04-18-2009, 05:03 PM
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