View Full Version : All Casey Cell Phone LOGS and PINGS
Amberjack
09-08-2008, 11:06 PM
They seem very focused on this ping & this area
Do we know if it's N, S, E, W of the airport?
Are the Orl. Int'l Airport & the Orl. Executive Airport the same?
Does Casey have a boyfriend that works there or nearby?
Odd...That there is a Boggy Creek area (S-W of airport)
that has M/I Homes named
Sawgrass Plantation & Bella Vida.....
milopedes
09-08-2008, 11:07 PM
Please merge or redirect if this has been addressed . . .
I have two comments/questions for everyone:
1. Do we know if anyone ever asked Casey why her cell phone would "ping" in an area outside of her normal activity (i.e., the swamp by the airport). It would seem to me that she could simply come up with a lie, like she has about everything else, but at least by asking her the police could uncover yet another lie she has told and slowly paint her into a corner.
2. I'm not quite sure how the pings work. It is based upon the location of a cellular tower, correct? But they can tell the date and time. So, if on the way to the swamp/airport area the cell pings at one tower, then pings at another in that area, couldn't they determine the length of time she remained in that area? What I am getting at is this: (hypothetical: say the pings showed she spent 2 hours by the swamp/airport). A natural question to then ask would be "why?" My guess would be her desire to dispose of something - body, evidence, or whatever.
milopedes
09-08-2008, 11:14 PM
Also, now that she has changed her story does anyone know if her cell phone had a ping in that park?
Terilee
09-08-2008, 11:33 PM
I have worked for two major communication/cell companies. I work ALOT with business tracking people, assets, vehicles (GPS)
I hope the police have more evidence to support Caseys location than just cell phone "pinging" cell tower.
I doubt she even took her cell phone with when she disposed of the body, and if she did take phone along, it doesnt always mean much.
There are alot of things that can interfere such as communication tower (airport) trees, steel buildings,water towers. Plus, we can only see her location when a call is either being placed or recieved. Meaning if no one called her for 6 hours, and she did not call anyone either, we pretty much cant see where she was during that time.
dreamweaver
09-08-2008, 11:53 PM
The area they search is south of Orlando Int'l Airport. It is the area found by the cell phone 'pings' in the time line after June 16, 2008.
Orlando Ex. Airport is north of the Anthony's home.
Try the links forum. The google maps may be in there.
The pings seem to show a longer period of time south of the Int'l airport. This is not an area frequented by Casey. I think this shown by all her other cell phone calls.
They say 'pings' off cell towers happen if the phone is used or not used.
I would think Casey had her cell phone with her. She does not seem to be the kind of person who would be without it.
The times of cell phone 'pings' have been released.
Except for June 17, 2008.
dreamweaver
09-08-2008, 11:56 PM
They seem very focused on this ping & this area
Do we know if it's N, S, E, W of the airport?
Are the Orl. Int'l Airport & the Orl. Executive Airport the same?
Does Casey have a boyfriend that works there or nearby?
Odd...That there is a Boggy Creek area (S-W of airport)
that has M/I Homes named
Sawgrass Plantation & Bella Vida.....
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1 Boggy Ck has been discussed a lot as a possible site where Caylee could be. Also, Mud Lake, which is west of Boggy Ck.
It is south of Orlando Int'l Airport.
Maps have been shown on threads. May be in the links thread.
I do not know if she had a boy friend who works there or not.
I don't recall that she did.
future criminologist
09-09-2008, 12:06 AM
-------------------------------------------I do not know if she had a boy friend who works there or not.
I don't recall that she did.
not that we know of at this point. this girl had them lined up one right after, often on top of, eachother. so I wouldn't be surprised if she snuck in some airport guy on one of those days. I've lost track of how many guys she dates at once myself.
Terilee
09-09-2008, 12:50 AM
The area they search is south of Orlando Int'l Airport. It is the area found by the cell phone 'pings' in the time line after June 16, 2008.
Orlando Ex. Airport is north of the Anthony's home.
Try the links forum. The google maps may be in there.
The pings seem to show a longer period of time south of the Int'l airport. This is not an area frequented by Casey. I think this shown by all her other cell phone calls.
They say 'pings' off cell towers happen if the phone is used or not used.
I would think Casey had her cell phone with her. She does not seem to be the kind of person who would be without it.
The times of cell phone 'pings' have been released.
Except for June 17, 2008.
there must be continuous communication between the physical phone and the service provider'ssatellite towers. (ie, no interference-airport communication towers, water towers, trees, metal buildings)
Yes SOME phones have E911 and can constantly be tracked but this is sooooo easy to just shut off by going into your phones menu and disabling the feature. im just saying I hope they are going off of more than cell and tower locations.
The phone would have to be powered on at that time as well.
Short_Stuff
09-09-2008, 01:17 AM
I dont think the pings matter either. Who would be calling from the burial area while theyre burying someone? No one!
Laneymae
09-09-2008, 01:59 AM
I have worked for two major communication/cell companies. I work ALOT with business tracking people, assets, vehicles (GPS)
I hope the police have more evidence to support Caseys location than just cell phone "pinging" cell tower.
I doubt she even took her cell phone with when she disposed of the body, and if she did take phone along, it doesnt always mean much.
There are alot of things that can interfere such as communication tower (airport) trees, steel buildings,water towers. Plus, we can only see her location when a call is either being placed or recieved. Meaning if no one called her for 6 hours, and she did not call anyone either, we pretty much cant see where she was during that time.
Boo hoo ... I was counting on the pings to help locate Caylee. Thank you for the info.
Cher352
09-09-2008, 03:06 AM
I have worked for two major communication/cell companies. I work ALOT with business tracking people, assets, vehicles (GPS)
I hope the police have more evidence to support Caseys location than just cell phone "pinging" cell tower.
I doubt she even took her cell phone with when she disposed of the body, and if she did take phone along, it doesnt always mean much.
There are alot of things that can interfere such as communication tower (airport) trees, steel buildings,water towers. Plus, we can only see her location when a call is either being placed or recieved. Meaning if no one called her for 6 hours, and she did not call anyone either, we pretty much cant see where she was during that time.
That is not what I have read about pings.
"The ping is essentially the handset's way of saying: 'I'm here and I'm ready to be used,' " You don't have to be making a call for a ping to register you just have to have the phone on.
Here is just one of the articles I found.
http://www.snopes.com/crime/prevent/cellping.asp
Personally Casey doesn't seem the type to ever go anywhere without her phone or have it turned off unless she knew ahead of time about how pings work. IMO
TrailDog
09-09-2008, 08:22 AM
They seem very focused on this ping & this area
Do we know if it's N, S, E, W of the airport?
Are the Orl. Int'l Airport & the Orl. Executive Airport the same?
Does Casey have a boyfriend that works there or nearby?
Odd...That there is a Boggy Creek area (S-W of airport)
that has M/I Homes named
Sawgrass Plantation & Bella Vida.....
The International Airport is a different airport than the Executive airport. OIA is located in the south part of Orlando and is the major hub of flights coming in from around the world. The executive airport is a small airport located in the Conway/crystal lake area. It is mainly used for personal aircraft and smaller local flights.
As far as the "pings" go. What the last poster said is more correct. When a cell phone is active and aquiring a signal, the cell phone pings the tower frequently to determine the signal strength, ect. It is possible to get these pings and determine a persons whereabouts from them. It is very time consuming though as the packet that the cell phone company sends is very large. It is not something that has anything to do with GPS, E911 or phone tracking and requires a "cell site order" from the court. Most cell compaines only keep these records for a short period of time as well. So a person doesnt need to actually be using the phone, they just need to have it on. It is of course restrictive to whether or not the phone is hitting a tower, interference, ect.
The detectives are working with everything they can to solve the case.
SeriouslySearching
09-09-2008, 08:45 AM
I have to agree with Traildog. (Welcome to WS, Trail!)
On other cases, this has come up and the phone doesn't have to be used to ping the towers. Time is determined by leaving one area and moving to the next. They have her cell phone pinging the towers in that specific location or they would not be searching there extensively.
She wouldn't neccessarily have been calling anyone, but they could have been trying to reach her which also activates the pings on the towers. I believe this was mentioned by Tim.
They could have other reasons for looking in that area, too. They are important enough that Tim and LE decided not to take any risks in searching it for the moment which should tell us they are pretty confident in this location. It is possible the dirt removed from the trunk or shovel matches the dirt found in that particular area, for instance.
halleyscomet
09-09-2008, 08:55 AM
She DID make calls from these areas. LE will not say who she was calling.
halleyscomet
09-09-2008, 08:56 AM
One other thing I had heard while on the search is that the phone was pinging in the area around the area and then suddenly stopped pinging and then started again. I guess the assumption is that she entered an area will a lot of tall trees that interferred with the signal.
Amberjack
09-09-2008, 02:36 PM
Thanks for all the info!
So, there are 2 different "airports"
Casey only had one call on Tuesday from outside the airport
She loses BOTH her phones & cannot explain this
She only had the Blackjack one week
It contained info from the other phone......
There are persons she knows that work in this area outside the Int'l Airport
Who's house was she living at June 16-17-18?
Hi everyone. I'm a long time lurker but new to posting here. Many of you amaze me with your sleuthing abilities.
Was the pings from the airport on the 16th? If so, imo logic says she didn't dump the body on that day due to it wouldn't allow enough time for the decomp smell to set in. It makes more sense that the airport was used as a location to either kill Caylee or to move her body from the back seat to the trunk. I think the pings after the 18th are what they should be looking at.
BondJamesBond
09-14-2008, 01:14 AM
If I understood correctly, the cell ping map was flashed briefly on-screen on the NG show within the last several days.
I searched the media links thread and came up empty. Not because the clip isn't there, but, because it wasn't obvious to me which one it was if it was there.
Did anyone get a screenshot of the cell ping map they can share?
Thanks.
mollymil23
09-14-2008, 01:24 AM
I think it was on the 5th...I just started watching and will post it if I find it.
TxRose
09-14-2008, 01:26 AM
Yea - I remember seeing it too - just for a split second. I looked for it later and couldn't find it anywhere. I don't have that episode saved! I hope you can find it because I was curious to see it as well.
OakIceShimmer
09-14-2008, 01:36 AM
http://www.cellreception.com/towers/
mrstewart
09-14-2008, 01:39 AM
I was under the impression that a ping could be detected even though the phone was not in use. A woman went missing here a year and a half ago and she was found because her cell phone "pings" directed them in the right direction. The phone had not been used as she was found dead by a creek off a dirt road.
TxRose
09-14-2008, 01:40 AM
Oh - so it was a map of the cell phone towers...not the pings?
Straitfan
09-14-2008, 01:58 AM
Seriously, you are right in your post #13, she did not have to be talking for the cell to ping.. Also one thing especially in major metropolitan areas such as Orlando, there are going to be many, many, many cell towers in close proximity (sp?) So, the ping will transfer from one tower to the next to the next.. IF the person is moving about such as in a car driving. So if she was stationary , ie, like doing something in one spot by the airport, the ping wouldn't necessarily go from 1 tower to another.. So hmmm, wonder if her ping was still for 30 mins/1 hr??? Doubt w/ the major cell provider that she had and being by a major airport, the odds of being in any "dead spots" are almost zero. (I work for major provider though not the one she has) I still keep wondering about that da... missing phone though..:( Keep thinking it may have played a part in the days when Caylee went missing and "whatever" she did with her..
Straitfan
09-14-2008, 02:04 AM
Does anyone know (may have already been posted) what day in particular the "ping records" the LE is focused on? I would assume it is between 6/15/08 and the date the car was towed but was wondering if an exact date has ever been given by LE?
TheLoneRanger
09-14-2008, 02:07 AM
This is in ref to Amberjacks comment above - I was looking on google street view maps before [not being sure which airport they were talking abt] but the Orlando Executive Airport is on a main street called Herndon Ave abt 3mi from the Amscot where the car was left.... I found this regarding the area biz's.... [no idea how old list is] Most of them pertain to like aircraft / aviation stuff, Four [4] of them on the list share a common film / studio theme & address.... dunno if this is important or not but wasn't somebody an amateur film / photography person or studying that or something...?
http://www.un.minsk.by/orlando-florida-herndon-ave.htm
mrstewart
09-14-2008, 02:13 AM
This is in ref to Amberjacks comment above - I was looking on google street view maps before [not being sure which airport they were talking abt] but the Orlando Executive Airport is on a main street called Herndon Ave abt 3mi from the Amscot where the car was left.... I found this regarding the area biz's.... [no idea how old list is] Most of them pertain to like aircraft / aviation stuff, Four [4] of them on the list share a common film / studio theme & address.... dunno if this is important or not but wasn't somebody an amateur film / photography person or studying that or something...?
http://www.un.minsk.by/orlando-florida-herndon-ave.htm
KC's hobby was photography...
Straitfan
09-14-2008, 02:14 AM
Hey TxRose, you can pull up map, locations of the actual cell sites but that doesn't help "regular people" like us! Only will show where they are not which one the ph "pinged" from only LE with a subpenoa for the records would know exactly which of the towers it was.. Also major companies have roaming agreements with each other so it could even be a ping off a tower that didn't even belong to the cell provider casey uses but the records would still be available to LE. The LE NO doubt has WAY more info than lil ms casey thinks.. :)
Theonly1
09-14-2008, 06:14 AM
If I understood correctly, the cell ping map was flashed briefly on-screen on the NG show within the last several days.
I searched the media links thread and came up empty. Not because the clip isn't there, but, because it wasn't obvious to me which one it was if it was there.
Did anyone get a screenshot of the cell ping map they can share?
Thanks.
I need the ping map. Please PM me if anyone has it. [Not interested in the searched areas map though.]
Theonly1
09-14-2008, 08:20 AM
http://www.cityoforlando.net/gis/pdf/nbhd/OrlandoIntAirport.pdf
I heard that a ping came from this area (on the local news when pings first broke).
See the Mud Lake section on the bottom of the map. I don't know if it has been searched.
T
HRCODEPINK
09-14-2008, 09:20 AM
There has been a lot of controversy on this because of reasons I'd rather not mention in case the defense is reading.
However, You DO NOT have to be making a call in order for the cell to ping the towers. In fact, lots of companies don't want to admit this but the phone does not even have to be ON!! LE has the ability, with a warrant, not only to get your ping records, but in the past have used cell phones to listen in on conversations of people that they believe to be criminals. As with the pings, the phone does not even have to be on. They can take a phone that is not on and turn on your speaker phone and listen to the conversations that you are having in the room, not just on the phone. LE often uses this feature on ONstar as well. It is like walking around with a microphone on you at all times. The only way to stop it is to turn the phone off AND TAKE THE BATTERY OUT!!
Theonly1
09-14-2008, 10:02 AM
There has been a lot of controversy on this because of reasons I'd rather not mention in case the defense is reading.
However, You DO NOT have to be making a call in order for the cell to ping the towers. In fact, lots of companies don't want to admit this but the phone does not even have to be ON!! LE has the ability, with a warrant, not only to get your ping records, but in the past have used cell phones to listen in on conversations of people that they believe to be criminals. As with the pings, the phone does not even have to be on. They can take a phone that is not on and turn on your speaker phone and listen to the conversations that you are having in the room, not just on the phone. LE often uses this feature on ONstar as well. It is like walking around with a microphone on you at all times. The only way to stop it is to turn the phone off AND TAKE THE BATTERY OUT!!
Nods. You are totally correct. :)
sammielizabeth
09-21-2008, 09:28 PM
If they are found to have been in the same remote locations as KC..This could be very telling.....IMO
SailorMoon
09-21-2008, 09:37 PM
I agree.They should ping their phones. Better yet...whose to say Casey didn't pick up one of their phones and use it one day. Like George and Cindy would tell anyone that. Like George and Cindy would ever tell the truth!!
Kitty Kat
09-28-2008, 11:41 PM
I was looking at the LAT/LON of some of Casey's pings around the time Caylee went missing on mapquest. I know the cops have this and they have said that by these they can pretty much tell everywhere Casey was around that time. As far as I know none of this has been released to the public.
What I am getting at is this. I was going to try and map all of the pings out on a map for us. However the only site I seen you can map by LAT/LON is Mapquest and you can only look up one place at a time there (can't add multiple markers) .. Frappr map you can but only in degrees, not decimals. So what I am asking for is some help.
Does anyone either know of a map place that I can mark multiple locations by LAT/LONG?
If we can find a place either I will go and map it all out, or if others are willing to help we can all take a specific date (june15-june27) and add the markers for that date. Would be much faster to do it like that.
Either way, does anyone know of a place I could map this out at?
CarrieBean
09-28-2008, 11:42 PM
I thought the photo of the mapped pings I saw (on NG?)was in Google maps.
SeriouslySearching
09-28-2008, 11:43 PM
Google Earth would be good for that task. :)
Maui4me
09-28-2008, 11:44 PM
Wyatt said tonight that a map of the pings would help them immensely in deciding where to search. They are looking for a needle in a haystack right now.....
I was looking at the LAT/LON of some of Casey's pings around the time Caylee went missing on mapquest. I know the cops have this and they have said that by these they can pretty much tell everywhere Casey was around that time. As far as I know none of this has been released to the public.
What I am getting at is this. I was going to try and map all of the pings out on a map for us. However the only site I seen you can map by LAT/LON is Mapquest and you can only look up one place at a time there (can't add multiple markers) .. Frappr map you can but only in degrees, not decimals. So what I am asking for is some help.
Does anyone either know of a map place that I can mark multiple locations by LAT/LONG?
If we can find a place either I will go and map it all out, or if others are willing to help we can all take a specific date (june15-june27) and add the markers for that date. Would be much faster to do it like that.
Either way, does anyone know of a place I could map this out at?
Kitty Kat
09-28-2008, 11:47 PM
I thought the photo of the mapped pings I saw (on NG?)was in Google maps.
Really? I seen a map somewhere I thought but it was just on video and didn't know if it was really out there or if it had the times the pings were pinged. That would be much easier if it's already there. :P
TxRose
09-28-2008, 11:47 PM
Wyatt said tonight that a map of the pings would help them immensely in deciding where to search. They are looking for a needle in a haystack right now.....
Where are you getting the LON/LAT's of her pings? Do you have a link? I didn't know that info was available.
Kitty Kat
09-28-2008, 11:48 PM
Google Earth would be good for that task. :)
Thanks I will try it out now. I tried google maps but it wouldn't let me add my lat/lon.
Kitty Kat
09-28-2008, 11:49 PM
Where are you getting the LON/LAT's of her pings? Do you have a link? I didn't know that info was available.
It is in the jury room of the forum here. In her cell records it gives the lat/lon next to the call info.
Maui4me
09-28-2008, 11:49 PM
TxRose, was not me that is doing that
CarrieBean
09-28-2008, 11:54 PM
It's a big job. I hope someone is up for it.
TxRose
09-29-2008, 12:02 AM
TxRose, was not me that is doing that
I know sorry..my bad. I was a little trigger happy on the reply. I accidentally hit quote and reply!
So the phone ping detail is in the "jury room" thread on the main part of the website? I can't seem to find it. :confused:
Edited> Never mind....just found it! Thanks!
CarrieBean
09-29-2008, 12:08 AM
Really? I seen a map somewhere I thought but it was just on video and didn't know if it was really out there or if it had the times the pings were pinged. That would be much easier if it's already there. :P
I think it was on Nancy G, but not sure. Not sure if it was a legit map either.
Kitty Kat
09-29-2008, 12:10 AM
I know sorry..my bad. I was a little trigger happy on the reply. I accidentally hit quote and reply!
So the phone ping detail is in the "jury room" thread on the main part of the website? I can't seem to find it. :confused:
Edited> Never mind....just found it! Thanks!
It's under the missing documents. It's in her cell records. I am plotting them now but I think it might take a while.
CarrieBean
09-29-2008, 12:11 AM
Going to print out the pings and give it a try. No doubt someone else could get it done much faster though.
JBean
09-29-2008, 12:20 AM
here is a map from another thread . At the time it was posted they wished they had the cell pings to overlay on it.
Maybe it will help you?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2659377&postcount=65
HRCODEPINK
09-29-2008, 12:23 AM
I have worked for two major communication/cell companies. I work ALOT with business tracking people, assets, vehicles (GPS)
I hope the police have more evidence to support Caseys location than just cell phone "pinging" cell tower.
I doubt she even took her cell phone with when she disposed of the body, and if she did take phone along, it doesnt always mean much.
There are alot of things that can interfere such as communication tower (airport) trees, steel buildings,water towers. Plus, we can only see her location when a call is either being placed or recieved. Meaning if no one called her for 6 hours, and she did not call anyone either, we pretty much cant see where she was during that time.
Most "regular" people don't know about the pinging on the towers. Once I saw those records, it was pretty clear to me that she probably did take the phone with her, tho I could be wrong. Did you go look at them yet?? I wonder if the girl could even function for more than five minutes without the phone! I have never seen anyone with a child on the phone as much as this girl was, both before and after the 15th of June!
ThoughtElf
09-29-2008, 12:23 AM
here is a map from another thread . At the time it was posted they wished they had the cell pings to overlay on it.
Maybe it will help you?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2659377&postcount=65
Thanks, JB, I was just going to look for that map again!
ETA: try this view - it is better:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?daddr=4148+Eagle+Feather+Dr,+Orlando,+FL+32829&saddr=hopespring+dr+orlando+fl&rl=1&ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=109819466167644756404.000450bead1fefc2d1051&ll=28.49932,-81.257758&spn=0.01716,0.027637&t=h&z=15
JBean
09-29-2008, 12:26 AM
Thanks, JB, I was just going to look for that map again!YOU were the one that said in the other thread I wish we had the cell pings to overlay on it.
There is another map on the Map thread also. BUT it has some full names on it. So, if that map is better, be sure to redact the names of the people on it.
HRCODEPINK
09-29-2008, 12:34 AM
Thanks I will try it out now. I tried google maps but it wouldn't let me add my lat/lon.
Let me know how it works and what you are covering. I was considering doing a map for each day. How are you planning on doing it? I'll help!
ThoughtElf
09-29-2008, 12:35 AM
YOU were the one that said in the other thread I wish we had the cell pings to overlay on it.
There is another map on the Map thread also. BUT it has some full names on it. So, if that map is better, be sure to redact the names of the people on it.
Above link is the same map that you linked to in the other thread, just a better view.
I do have a link to the super-duper map from a search thread, but it does have full names.
okiedokietoo
09-29-2008, 12:41 AM
Hope this is right place for this.
Anyone here know what the column "duration" means?
JBean
09-29-2008, 12:41 AM
Above link is the same map that you linked to in the other thread, just a better view.
I do have a link to the super-duper map from a search thread, but it does have full names.
I was referring to the the super duper map. People can search it out in the Map thread and then block the names if they want to use it.
JBean
09-29-2008, 12:43 AM
Hope this is right place for this.
Anyone here know what the column "duration" means?
You mean like how long the call lasted? usually in one minute increments.
Lovejac
09-29-2008, 12:45 AM
Most "regular" people don't know about the pinging on the towers. Once I saw those records, it was pretty clear to me that she probably did take the phone with her, tho I could be wrong. Did you go look at them yet?? I wonder if the girl could even function for more than five minutes without the phone! I have never seen anyone with a child on the phone as much as this girl was, both before and after the 15th of June!
HRCODEPINK :clap: Thank you soooo much for taking the time to do this! I appreciate your time and effort!!!!!:blowkiss:
HRCODEPINK
09-29-2008, 12:46 AM
You mean like how long the call lasted? usually in one minute increments.
They are in one second increments on this report! It is usually minutes, but when I saw hers and some of her calls were 2000+, I started doing the math and the duration is in seconds here.
okiedokietoo
09-29-2008, 12:47 AM
You mean like how long the call lasted? usually in one minute increments.
on the cell phone log, for instance, on 6/16 at 13:44, under duration it says
2164 - so not minutes right because the next call is at 14:52 -
HRCODEPINK
09-29-2008, 12:47 AM
HRCODEPINK :clap: Thank you soooo much for taking the time to do this! I appreciate your time and effort!!!!!:blowkiss:
No problem at all, but honestly I was just doing the uploading. HPVDR obtained them all and spent all day scanning them in for us. She did an amazing job and she worked on it all day yesterday!!
HRCODEPINK
09-29-2008, 12:50 AM
on the cell phone log, for instance, on 6/16 at 13:44, under duration it says
2164 - so not minutes right because the next call is at 14:52 -
Right! That is in seconds which would make that a little over 36 minutes. It is confusing at first, but when you go through and divide the duration by 60, they all fit.
okiedokietoo
09-29-2008, 12:50 AM
They are in one second increments on this report! It is usually minutes, but when I saw hers and some of her calls were 2000+, I started doing the math and the duration is in seconds here.
ohhhhh thanks - that would be
just over a minute?
Kitty Kat
09-29-2008, 12:51 AM
Let me know how it works and what you are covering. I was considering doing a map for each day. How are you planning on doing it? I'll help!
Well what I started doing was adding all the diff ping locations from the 15th to the 27th to the map. I am naming the locations as the date and time the call was placed. I am not familiar with Google earth yet. Would we be able to split these up and then eventually merge them? do you, or anyone know?
okiedokietoo
09-29-2008, 12:52 AM
ohhhhh thanks - that would be
just over a minute?
ok - never mind - I know both of you are making sense but I think I need to relax for a few minutes:)
HRCODEPINK
09-29-2008, 12:53 AM
ohhhhh thanks - that would be
just over a minute?
NP. 2000 would be 33.3 minutes. Just divide the duration by 60 and that gives you the number of minutes. I think there is one on there that is like 8000+ and that is what caught my eye in the beginning as it not possibly being minutes.
HRCODEPINK
09-29-2008, 12:55 AM
Well what I started doing was adding all the diff ping locations from the 15th to the 27th to the map. I am naming the locations as the date and time the call was placed. I am not familiar with Google earth yet. Would we be able to split these up and then eventually merge them? do you, or anyone know?
I've never used google Earth, so I don't know, but I am willing to learn real quick. I'll see what I can find out about merging them tomorrow.
okiedokietoo
09-29-2008, 12:56 AM
NP. 2000 would be 33.3 minutes. Just divide the duration by 60 and that gives you the number of minutes. I think there is one on there that is like 8000+ and that is what caught my eye in the beginning as it not possibly being minutes.
I feel like I am losing my mind, not really but you know, I was on here all day yesterday and think I'll head over to google earth and see what i can figure out with these log and lat.
Thanks to both of you for being so patient. What you explained will hit me and a minute and you'll hear a loud "duh!"
HRCODEPINK
09-29-2008, 12:57 AM
I feel like I am losing my mind, not really but you know, I was on here all day yesterday and think I'll head over to google earth and see what i can figure out with these log and lat.
Thanks to both of you for being so patient. What you explained will hit me and a minute and you'll hear a loud "duh!"
It's okay, lol! The A's and this saga could do it to anyone, lol!
JBean
09-29-2008, 01:09 AM
They are in one second increments on this report! It is usually minutes, but when I saw hers and some of her calls were 2000+, I started doing the math and the duration is in seconds here.I haven't had a chance to look at them yet, so I had no idea. thank you!
ThoughtElf
09-29-2008, 01:11 AM
Well what I started doing was adding all the diff ping locations from the 15th to the 27th to the map. I am naming the locations as the date and time the call was placed. I am not familiar with Google earth yet. Would we be able to split these up and then eventually merge them? do you, or anyone know?
If either of you belong to Google as a member, then you can create a new map. You can also invite others to collaborate with you be inviting them by email address. They'll get an email invite with a link to the map to edit.
Alternately, you can leave it wide open so anyone can edit it, but I don't think you want to go that route. I've seen people lose a lot of work, if left open to all.
CarrieBean
09-29-2008, 01:14 AM
If either of you belong to Google as a member, then you can create a new map. You can also invite others to collaborate with you be inviting them by email address. They'll get an email invite with a link to the map to edit.
Alternately, you can leave it wide open so anyone can edit it, but I don't think you want to go that route. I've seen people lose a lot of work, if left open to all.
Can a password be put on it? Why not have a few people get together to do it all on one map...each can do a few days.
BondJamesBond
09-29-2008, 01:14 AM
...at creating an abbreviated person-to-number reference?
For example:
John Doe 954###9214
allowing for cross-referencing w/o using the full number.
Would there be any issue w/ that approach?
Just askin'
BondJamesBond
09-29-2008, 01:20 AM
BTW...FWIW...LiveSearch 3D-view (Beta) will give you a Lat & Long reading continuously updating w/ your cursor.
Readout is in the lower-right-hand corner of the map screen located just above the scale bar.
I've been able to use this to dial right in on the towers...can actually spot them pretty easily by their shadows when you get Lat & Long dialed in...pretty accurate too.
Does anyone else have a better way to locate the towers?
Lovejac
09-29-2008, 01:40 AM
Seems like there should be more people here on this thread. I wonder if the title said
something like "Casey's cell phone records discussion" more people would realize. Just a thought..........a very sleepy 1:39 am thought ;-)
BondJamesBond
09-29-2008, 01:53 AM
Seems like there should be more people here on this thread. I wonder if the title said
something like "Casey's cell phone records discussion" more people would realize. Just a thought..........a very sleepy 1:39 am thought ;-)
I think ya kinda answered your own question there, Lovejac...1:39AM...:)
...still, I agree..."Casey's Cell records" would def generate the interest.
I need to join the land of slumbering myself.
HRCODEPINK and all that labored to get this info out there. Big thank you to you! :clap::clap::blowkiss::clap::clap:
Lovejac
09-29-2008, 01:56 AM
I think ya kinda answered your own question there, Lovejac...1:39AM...:)
...still, I agree..."Casey's Cell records" would def generate the interest.
I need to join the land of slumbering myself.
HRCODEPINK and all that labored to get this info out there. Big thank you to you! :clap::clap::blowkiss::clap::clap:
Thanks James Bond, so I'm not completely crazy yet. BTW, I loved your last movie!:crazy:
Lovejac
09-29-2008, 02:00 AM
...at creating an abbreviated person-to-number reference?
For example:
John Doe 954###9214
allowing for cross-referencing w/o using the full number.
Would there be any issue w/ that approach?
Just askin'
That's a good idea, I can't imagine that the mods would have a problem with that since it wouldn't be the full number. I would help, but my beasties wake at 7 am and I have got to sleep soon. I would probably be transposing number anyway!:crazy:
lorynne34
09-29-2008, 04:06 AM
I did a little mapping for the night of 6-15 to morning of 6-16. Seems she was having conversations with AL. See my next post for more info.
shadow of my mind
09-29-2008, 04:14 AM
I am willing to help with the phone number cross refernce. I do not have access to google earth so not much help with the pinging points. Let me know with a PM. I'm going to head off to sleepy land myself.
lorynne34
09-29-2008, 04:17 AM
After looking over the ping positions and putting in Hopespring dr., it looks like Hopespring is in the middle of the two towers. I'm guessing she was at home the night of the 15th...what do you think? (edited to add) She was pinging off of the same position until 4:15 p.m. of the 16th. Since I'm the only one here, I'll just keep editing ;) Here are the lats and longs I used... 28.5028444 -81.2863333, 82.4547222 -81.2636111, then I just typed in hopespring dr. put pushpins on all the areas and wala. Using google earth.
Another little tidbit. The flurry of calls to CA and GA start at 3:05 p.m. until she leaves around 4:15. I'm wondering if something did in fact happen to Caylee while she was there. (This is assuming that my calculations are correct above).
Busylady
09-29-2008, 05:12 AM
Here are phone logs for Casey from 6/1 to 7/17 they take along time to download so you have to be patient, and easier to read if you use full screen. I found these on a google search and havent gone thru them all so hopefully all the links work ok. Also there are two part 6 but they are different records.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635917/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part1 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635917/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part1)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635928/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part2 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635928/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part2)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635999/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part3 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635999/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part3)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636130/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part4 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636130/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part4)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636127/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log__Part5 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636127/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log__Part5)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636160/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636160/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636217/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636217/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6)
ChattyWoman
09-29-2008, 05:30 AM
Here are phone logs for Casey from 6/1 to 7/17 they take along time to download so you have to be patient, and easier to read if you use full screen. I found these on a google search and havent gone thru them all so hopefully all the links work ok. Also there are two part 6 but they are different records.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635917/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part1 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635917/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part1)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635928/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part2 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635928/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part2)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635999/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part3 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635999/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part3)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636130/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part4 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636130/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part4)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636127/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log__Part5 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636127/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log__Part5)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636160/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636160/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636217/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636217/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6)
Great! Thanks!
HappyChic727
09-29-2008, 06:28 AM
Dang 702 minutes on one call. What does that translate to? Over 10 hours? Could that be right? Continuing on . . . 839 on one call? 327 on another? Not sure if they are all to the same person and don't have the time to check but I bet some sleuther here will do just that.
What does all this chitter chatter mean? Can anyone really talk THAT much?
darlin gal
09-29-2008, 06:29 AM
We now know what she did all day.
Elley Mae
09-29-2008, 07:28 AM
When did she sleep or take a shower? This is insane.
Georgia101957
09-29-2008, 07:51 AM
You can find her location using the coordinates here
http://www.batchgeocode.com/lookup/
just put a comma between the two coordinates and be sure to put the "-" sign in front of the longitude number.
Busylady
09-29-2008, 07:52 AM
The minutes cant be right cause some of them show over 3,000? I wonder if alot of the zeros are text messages?
Busylady
09-29-2008, 07:53 AM
Thank you! I have been doing google map which is nice cause it gives street view but I can't figure out where the heck I am on there.
You can find her location using the coordinates here
http://www.batchgeocode.com/lookup/
just put a comma between the two coordinates and be sure to put the "-" sign in front of the longitude number.
Law_girl41
09-29-2008, 07:59 AM
Thank you! I have been doing google map which is nice cause it gives street view but I can't figure out where the heck I am on there.
Thanks Busy Lay for finding these today!:woohoo:
Tell me, when were these documents actually released?? Was this part of the recently released dump that the media failed to put on their websights?
tia
Busylady
09-29-2008, 08:01 AM
I am not sure when they were released, I just couldnt sleep so was surfing and found them in docstoc.
Thanks Busy Lay for finding these today!:woohoo:
Tell me, when were these documents actually released?? Was this part of the recently released dump that the media failed to put on their websights?
tia
SuziQ
09-29-2008, 08:02 AM
Are the durations, the length of time the phone pinged at a certain location? The length of time and the timestamps don't coincide. Hmmmmm.
Georgia101957
09-29-2008, 08:13 AM
hmmmm is right, but keep in mind she could be doing 2 or 3 way calls :eek:
Law_girl41
09-29-2008, 08:13 AM
I am not sure when they were released, I just couldnt sleep so was surfing and found them in docstoc.
Well Busy Lady, you sure do live up to your name hon!!! I think many on here have been wanting these for a long time! Good work!
Only thing is I cant make heads or tail of these calls. ATT had to make it complicated now didnt they:rolleyes:
SuziQ
09-29-2008, 08:18 AM
There was someone who started a thread last night about making a map from the lng and lat coordinates. I wonder if they figured any of this out?
BTW, thanks Busylady!
SuziQ
09-29-2008, 08:23 AM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70666&page=3
At the above link, it appears the duration was figured out to be seconds?
SuziQ
09-29-2008, 08:27 AM
bump.
karenz
09-29-2008, 08:27 AM
Dang 702 minutes on one call. What does that translate to? Over 10 hours? Could that be right? Continuing on . . . 839 on one call? 327 on another? Not sure if they are all to the same person and don't have the time to check but I bet some sleuther here will do just that.
What does all this chitter chatter mean? Can anyone really talk THAT much?
phone sex? I keep thinking she made money someway...don't you think LE would have traced all that by now?
Everly
09-29-2008, 08:31 AM
Could she have been using the cellphone to hook up to the laptop to use the internet? That would account for such long calls.
Pocono Sleuther
09-29-2008, 08:36 AM
Dang 702 minutes on one call. What does that translate to? Over 10 hours? Could that be right? Continuing on . . . 839 on one call? 327 on another? Not sure if they are all to the same person and don't have the time to check but I bet some sleuther here will do just that.
What does all this chitter chatter mean? Can anyone really talk THAT much?
Could the durations be the total number of minutes to that number? Not just one call, but many calls and texts? Either way it's obvious the girl is cell addicted! My lord!! I love my blackberry and all but it's not continuously attached to my ear.
TxLady2
09-29-2008, 08:39 AM
I am thinking it is more like, 7 minutes, 2 seconds, etc.
Pocono Sleuther
09-29-2008, 08:41 AM
I am thinking it is more like, 7 minutes, 2 seconds, etc.
Ahhhh! That could be it TxLlady2! Thanks :) My brain is fried from working on a paper since 5am. I just looooovvveee grad school. LOL
:blowkiss:
momtective
09-29-2008, 08:45 AM
Are the durations, the length of time the phone pinged at a certain location? The length of time and the timestamps don't coincide. Hmmmmm.
The durations are in seconds not minutes
This is what I have so far
A Family Residence 407-275-4909
CA (grandmother) 407-808-4731
GA (grandfather) 407-403-3564
LA (uncle) 407-808-5132
KC (mother) 407-619-9286
Toll Free Voice Mail Only 888-307-0939
Attorney Jose Baez - The Baez Law Firm, 407-705-2626
Tony L (boyfriend) 631-902-5443
904-334-1704
Jacksonville, Fl
954-328-9214
Fort Lauderdale, FL
407-462-9293
Winter Park, FL
623 209 4511
Phoenix Az
doortonowhere
09-29-2008, 08:46 AM
I think the length of calls coud also be explained by she was possibly using her phone to tether to her laptop to get online.
liltigress
09-29-2008, 08:49 AM
That must be in seconds. This isn't the ordinary AT&T cell bill, this is the detailed version that I had no idea existed, though I'm not surprised.
With the Lon/Lat we can tell exactly where/who it was that sent the "my daughter is missing" text after LE questioned/arrested Casey? Heh.
momtective
09-29-2008, 08:50 AM
The minutes cant be right cause some of them show over 3,000? I wonder if alot of the zeros are text messages?
The duration of the calls is in seconds not minutes
Everly
09-29-2008, 08:52 AM
I think the length of calls coud also be explained by she was possibly using her phone to tether to her laptop to get online.
That's what I posted earlier.
I think those are seconds listed in duration because some of them you can see that a call that was 407 in duration was made and then she called someone else 7 minutes later.
Edited to add:
ALL TOGETHER NOW--- IT'S SECONDS NOT MINUTES LOL
liltigress
09-29-2008, 08:53 AM
If anyone wants to get her complete phone book list, I'm guessing it will be the very last few pages where LE/Lee? is sending out that text message.
websurfer
09-29-2008, 08:55 AM
I never came close in 10 years of making this number of calls on my busiest day...
She is amazing for talk time.
So one poster says the time is in seconds that makes sense.
So her log stops on
7/10/2008? Or am I not seeing them all here ?
I would guess all these numbers had to be changed now too thanks to KC ?
That is too bad because the cell companies are wondering[ from what I have heard] how to not run out of new numbers.
Unreal how anybody can talk so much?
If only she would talk to someone about Caylee.
Lovejac
09-29-2008, 09:18 AM
After looking over the ping positions and putting in Hopespring dr., it looks like Hopespring is in the middle of the two towers. I'm guessing she was at home the night of the 15th...what do you think? (edited to add) She was pinging off of the same position until 4:15 p.m. of the 16th. Since I'm the only one here, I'll just keep editing ;) Here are the lats and longs I used... 28.5028444 -81.2863333, 82.4547222 -81.2636111, then I just typed in hopespring dr. put pushpins on all the areas and wala. Using google earth.
Another little tidbit. The flurry of calls to CA and GA start at 3:05 p.m. until she leaves around 4:15. I'm wondering if something did in fact happen to Caylee while she was there. (This is assuming that my calculations are correct above).
IIRC, Tony L stated that casey did NOT spend the night with him on the 15th. I wish I knew more about cell phones than just dialing and talking...hee...hee. I will be glad to help try to put phone #'s to names though.
BonKai
09-29-2008, 09:19 AM
Here are phone logs for Casey from 6/1 to 7/17 they take along time to download so you have to be patient, and easier to read if you use full screen. I found these on a google search and havent gone thru them all so hopefully all the links work ok. Also there are two part 6 but they are different records
Awesome find busylady! :clap:
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 09:21 AM
If the Lat-Long's are right, that appears to be the closest tower to the Anthony's.
bobodedoo
09-29-2008, 09:22 AM
If I didn't have a full-time job, I'd help you guys out ... I am always amazed at you folks that take on these huge, enormous tasks!
BonKai
09-29-2008, 09:23 AM
They seem very focused on this ping & this area
Do we know if it's N, S, E, W of the airport?
Are the Orl. Int'l Airport & the Orl. Executive Airport the same?
Does Casey have a boyfriend that works there or nearby?
Odd...That there is a Boggy Creek area (S-W of airport)
that has M/I Homes named
Sawgrass Plantation & Bella Vida.....
What "ping & this area" are you referring to? Do you have LAT and LNG?
I'm confused. :waitasec:
VickiInLongwood
09-29-2008, 09:23 AM
AMSCOT
Latitude: 28.535062 / Longitude: -81.285924
Lovejac
09-29-2008, 09:26 AM
Okay...I found this on another thread (thanks to momtective for this list!) the only thing I did was *** over part of the numbers b/c I don't know if the mods would approve of posting everyones cell phone numbers.
A Family Residence 407-2**-4909
Cindy A-- 407-8**-4731
George A -- 407-4**-3564
Lee A --407-8**-5132
casey A -- 407-6**-9286
Toll Free Voice Mail Only 888-3**-0939
Attorney Jose Baez - The Baez Law Firm, 407-7**-2626
Tony L (boyfriend) 631-9**-5443
hpvdr
09-29-2008, 09:31 AM
Thanks Busy Lay for finding these today!:woohoo:
Tell me, when were these documents actually released?? Was this part of the recently released dump that the media failed to put on their websights?
tia
These phone records were released Friday. We posted them in the Jury Room on Saturday with a post telling members where to find them.
The duration is in seconds not minutes.
Thank you for changing the name of the thread - we think this will be more helpful in others finding this information and helping to put a map together.
Busylady
09-29-2008, 09:36 AM
Sorry had no clue they had been found or posted in the jury room when I started a thread around 3 am or so after searching her forum for phone records and coming up empty. The threads have now been merged.
These phone records were released Friday. We posted them in the Jury Room on Saturday with a post telling members where to find them.
The duration is in seconds not minutes.
redtailhawk
09-29-2008, 09:39 AM
Could she have been using the cellphone to hook up to the laptop to use the internet? That would account for such long calls.
This is a very good point! Many people do use the cell phone as a modem for their laptop.....
You may be on to something here.
justbeachy
09-29-2008, 09:39 AM
This is in ref to Amberjacks comment above - I was looking on google street view maps before [not being sure which airport they were talking abt] but the Orlando Executive Airport is on a main street called Herndon Ave abt 3mi from the Amscot where the car was left.... I found this regarding the area biz's.... [no idea how old list is] Most of them pertain to like aircraft / aviation stuff, Four [4] of them on the list share a common film / studio theme & address.... dunno if this is important or not but wasn't somebody an amateur film / photography person or studying that or something...?
http://www.un.minsk.by/orlando-florida-herndon-ave.htm
Herndon Ave is in a very heavy populated area. There is a Toys R Us on Herndon and it is directly next to a large mall (Fashion Square Mall). Herdon Ave is basically a smaller side street off of a major road. It is right next to the Executive Airport. This area is not a rural area...it is heavily populated and has a ton of shopping and restaurants. It is easily accessed from the 408 (local toll road). Hope this helps!
hpvdr
09-29-2008, 09:40 AM
Thanks Busy Lay for finding these today!:woohoo:
Tell me, when were these documents actually released?? Was this part of the recently released dump that the media failed to put on their websights?
tia
Sorry had no clue they had been found or posted in the jury room when I started a thread around 3 am or so after searching her forum for phone records and coming up empty. The threads have now been merged.
Yes I see but actually you merged with the thread we started and we did not think that our thread name was very effective. Actually your thread name is perhaps a better description. People were mapping coordinates on Saturday each taking a section which would help with getting the task accomplished as there are many, many entries in 151 pages of cell phone records. It would be nice to have as many helpers as possible to get the best finished map. Want to check to see if your thread name can be used instead of the one that was started over the weekend??
Lovejac
09-29-2008, 09:41 AM
These phone records were released Friday. We posted them in the Jury Room on Saturday with a post telling members where to find them.
The duration is in seconds not minutes.
Good morning hpvdr!! Thanks for all your hard work on these....I already thanked HRCODEPINK last night.
The post you quoted is from someone who posted on a duplicate thread (that the mods have now merged :blowkiss:)
I, myself, was suprised when I stumbled upon this last night.....I had NO idea this info had been released. But, now that the mods have changed the title of this thread, I think people will know exactly the wealth of information that this thread holds!!
A BIG THANK YOU to HRCODEPINK and HPVDR for finding this info!!
Lovejac
09-29-2008, 09:43 AM
Yes I see but actually you merged with the thread we started and we did not think that our thread name was very effective. Actually your thread name is perhaps a better description. People were mapping coordinates on Saturday each taking a section which would help with getting the task accomplished as there are many, many entries in 151 pages of cell phone records. It would be nice to have as many helpers as possible to get the best finished map. Want to check to see if your thread name can be used instead of the one that was started over the weekend??
Just contact a mod :angel:, they can do it!!
Busylady
09-29-2008, 09:48 AM
Phone numbers - some will be duplicate from other post I am sure
Casey cell - 407-XXX-9286
Anthony home - 407-XXX-4909
Cindy cell - 407-XXX-4731
Cindy work - 407-XXX-7992
George cell - 407-XXX-3564
George work - 407-XXX-2900
Lee - 407-XXX-5132
Daniel H - 513-XXX-1725
Ricardo - 813-XXX-8750
Amanda M - 407-XXX-4134
Anthony L - 631-XXX-5443 or 407-XXX-2789
Nate - 772-XXX-5882
JG - 407-XXX-9293
Ann C - 406-XXX-8363
Lexus of Orlando - 407-XXX-1000
hpvdr
09-29-2008, 09:51 AM
I think I need alot more coffee - I see that 3 threads merged which is great and I see now that the heading being used is more clear than one I thought we were working with yesterday and it was mentioned in the thread that we felt it needed to be changed.
Regardless now perhaps an accurate map can be made which really will help especially for those who want to search.
Thanks Lovejac for pointing out the merging.
*snipped*
Wait, Casey's cell phone was not an Orlando area code? It was CA? Wasn't someone looking up escort websites in CA per the computer history docs?
Why does Casey have a cell phone with a CA area code... that makes no sense.
EDIT: I see what happened. You put that *** was her area code but it looks like it's actually 407 like the rest...
I can't view the PDFs at work because I don't have flash player, so I'm just going off of what everyone says here.
Law_girl41
09-29-2008, 09:52 AM
[QUOTE=thanks!
Busylady
09-29-2008, 09:55 AM
Papa Johns Pizza 407-273-7272
Cingular Voicemail 407-XXX-7686
Busylady
09-29-2008, 09:57 AM
I fixed my original post it should be 407 area code
bullet225ho
09-29-2008, 10:03 AM
These gps cordinates are cell tower locations right. Not a triangulation of her phone? I'm a carrect on this. Basically the gps point shown is of the tower that was used to send/recieve that call/text?
Thanks
natsound
09-29-2008, 10:03 AM
WOW. All of you cell phone record/LONG/LAT gurus have my utmost respect. For the layperson: can these LONG/LAT numbers pinpoint exactly where each phone call was made from? If so, will this be how LE can possibly find the body?
daisy7
09-29-2008, 10:04 AM
Don't know if this has already been answered. Can someone explain what the different columns are in the phone records? And, what the first column means (originating, terminating, sms)? How come some calls are blank in the columns that I think are the pings?
Thanks!
Busylady
09-29-2008, 10:12 AM
I am so lost I put in the lat and lng and it gives me a street view but all I see are the towers, no clue how to figure out a very accurate location. She could be a great distance from the tower that its hitting right?
lisa0477
09-29-2008, 10:12 AM
I dont think the pings matter either. Who would be calling from the burial area while theyre burying someone? No one!
Maybe they would for a minute to try to establish an alibi. So people could say, hey I talked to her at so so time and she said she was going here. Ya know what I mean. Not saying she talked to someone the whole time.
websurfer
09-29-2008, 10:20 AM
Ok, has anyone noticed her being in areas at the beginning of these calls and periodically revisiting them?
The areas of interest?
I can't download or see all the calls?
Do not know why ,but the pages are not all here.
In the time and area of interest ,the week of June 14-22 .
So after this critical week does anyone notice any earlier revisited areas? Pings?
Maybe sometime somebody can direct me to the
pages with the June 16th on calls.
I would like to see the times etc..
Whose # is 954-328-9214
and whose is 623-209-4511
Wine sleuth
09-29-2008, 10:22 AM
Maybe they would for a minute to try to establish an alibi. So people could say, hey I talked to her at so so time and she said she was going here. Ya know what I mean. Not saying she talked to someone the whole time.
I thought that the phone showed pings even if she was not on a call.?
SeriouslySearching
09-29-2008, 10:22 AM
If people were calling her even if she did not answer, the phone would ping towers, too.
Could someone check for specific pings around the 50 and Alfaya, Bithlo, and Lake Pickett area? LE is looking hard into this area and I have a good idea you will find out there are pings. They seem to interested in a person named Steve J. that Casey dated (and I use that term loosely with her). Thanks!
SeriouslySearching
09-29-2008, 10:23 AM
I thought that the phone showed pings even if she was not on a call.?Correct.
Didn't TonE say KC stayed the night on June 26..the night before dumping the car? but she called him at 2324 (11:24pm)
he called her at 2341 (11:41pm)
Can someone tell me where the pings are for the last calls on June 26 and the first calls on June 27th.
princess
09-29-2008, 10:35 AM
Whose # is 954-328-9214
and whose is 623-209-4511
954 is a Ft. lauderdale area code...it used to mine before I moved
So 954-328-9214 is a cell from Ft. Lauderdale
and 623-209-4511 is a landline in Phoenix, AZ....who is this?
butwhatif?
09-29-2008, 10:43 AM
Phone numbers - some will be duplicate from other post I am sure
Casey cell - 407-XXX-9286
Anthony home - 407-XXX-4909
Cindy cell - 407-XXX-4731
Cindy work - 407-XXX-7992
George cell - 407-XXX-3564
George work - 407-XXX-2900
Lee - 407-XXX-5132
Daniel H - 513-XXX-1725
Ricardo - 813-XXX-8750
Amanda M - 407-XXX-4134
Anthony L - 631-XXX-5443 or 407-XXX-2789
Nate - 772-XXX-5882
JG - 407-XXX-9293
Ann C - 406-XXX-8363
Lexus of Orlando - 407-XXX-1000
Amy H.. 9543 xxx9214
Annie D. 407xxx2176 407 xxx 7111 (D.R.F)
Mark H. 623xxx4511
William W.407xxx6971
and can someone confirm...
j p. 1407xxx1759
SeriouslySearching
09-29-2008, 10:44 AM
The AZ number is curious.
butwhatif?
09-29-2008, 10:45 AM
So 954-328-9214 is a cell from Ft. Lauderdale
and 623-209-4511 is a landline in Phoenix, AZ....who is this?
that would be mr hawkins.
SeriouslySearching
09-29-2008, 10:47 AM
Thanks, Butwhatif. (I thought he was in Cali tho?!)
princess
09-29-2008, 10:47 AM
So 954-328-9214 is a cell from Ft. Lauderdale
and 623-209-4511 is a landline in Phoenix, AZ....who is this?
You know...I know 954 used to be for all of Broward County...then they split it up so i am not sure of what areas are 954 anymore..i do know Ft.Lauderdale is 954...
When I drive there to visit family I have to go I-75 S then thru alligator alley into Broward county ..that area is 954 that I do know
hpvdr
09-29-2008, 10:50 AM
I believe that as you move around your cell phone signal pings off of the closest tower even if it isn't your own carriers tower. This information will not say where the cell phone is at that moment but would tell the map/lat/long/ guru how the phone was traveling. So perhaps if the cell phone was pinging off of a tower close to a lake/park/apartment complex/dumpsters in question - someone might be able to see if the she was in a questionable area for some length of time/visited on the dates in question/re-visited after the suspected date of disappearance. JMO
Celt1997
09-29-2008, 10:52 AM
Can someone tell me where the pings are for the last calls on June 26 and the first calls on June 27th.
Just doing a quick look it appears the last call on the 26th pinged the tower near University & N. Semoran (Behind Purlieu Place, halfway between N. Semoran & Forsyth). Then the following towers were used on the 27th:
6/27 - 10:22am - Near Legion Way & N. Goldenrod
6/27 - 10:35am - Near Rte. 408 & S. Chicksaw (near Goldenrod, too)
6/27 - 11:09am - Near S. Goldenrod & Quail Pond Road
6/27 - 11:28am - Near Rte. 15 & Rte. 528 (at the end of Chelsea Harbour Drive)
Then there were a series of text messages that went backwards along the same towers:
11:31am - Goldenrod & Quail Pond
11:37am - Rte. 408 & Chicksaw
The last one I checked was 11:40am for a tower near East Colonial & N. Forsyth.
Remember, though, the towers are just general locations, not exact coordinates. I forget what the tower ranges are.
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 11:08 AM
Has anyone mapped out the pings from 6-15 into 6-16?
Or the dates 6-16 into 6-17 when her phone was shut off, or no calls or pings were made from 11:17pm until 10:52 the next morning?
butwhatif?
09-29-2008, 11:09 AM
Thanks, Butwhatif. (I thought he was in Cali tho?!)
I thought so too, but that number is from the handwritten document with the list of phone numbers. can anyone figure it out?
momtective
09-29-2008, 11:11 AM
Has anyone mapped out the pings from 6-15 into 6-16?
Or the dates 6-16 into 6-17 when her phone was shut off, or no calls or pings were made from 11:17pm until 10:52 the next morning?
Working on those right now...man, she did not sleep on the 16th of June...only about 3 hours of the day with no calls in or out.
Has anyone mapped out the pings from 6-15 into 6-16?
Or the dates 6-16 into 6-17 when her phone was shut off, or no calls or pings were made from 11:17pm until 10:52 the next morning?
It breaks her pattern to go close to 12 hours with no contact with anyone....to me this is a suspicious timeframe
Kakax
09-29-2008, 11:13 AM
Amy H.. 9543 xxx9214
Annie D. 407xxx2176 407 xxx 7111 (D.R.F)
Mark H. 623xxx4511
William W.407xxx6971
and can someone confirm...
j p. 1407xxx1759
Great work!! Who is William W? I haven't found JP's number.
These are the ones I have found
Daniel Howard 513-2**-1725
Ryan Lopez 973-5**-2419
Nate 772-7**-5882
Casey Anthony 407-6**-9286
Casey Home 407-2**-4909
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-3**-6333
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-2**-6558
Anthony Lazarro 407-2**-2789
Anthony Lazzaro 631-9**-5443
Amy 954-3**-9214
Jessie Grund 407-4**-9293
Lee Anthony 407-80*-5132
Cindy Anthony 407-6**-7992
Cindy Anthony 407-8**-4731
George Anthony 407-3**-2900
George Anthony 407-4**-3564
Kristina Chester 407-9**-0214
Jonathon Daly 407-4**-9279
Sean Daly 407-4**-3475
Danny Calamarino 321-6**-6897
Maria Kishh 904-6**-3687
Annie Downing 407-9**-2176
Matthew Crisp 407-6**-5585
Matthew Crisp 407-7**-7965
Bobby Williams 407-8**-8009
Bobby Williams 407-2**-9032
Jeff D. Hopkins 407-2**-2789
Jeff Hopkins II 407-9**-7509
Ricardo Morales 813-4**-8750
Brian Burner 407-4**-2918
Kiomarie 407-4**-9966
Heather Mcdonald 321-4**-4997
Ryan Pasley 407-4**-8191
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 11:18 AM
I mapped them 6-16 night into 6-17 morning
I can tell you from what I saw, she didn't leave Goldenrod, traveled up and down it.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&saddr=28.5028444,+-81.2863333&daddr=28.4547222,+-81.2636111+to:28.5444,+-81.2767472+to:28.58753389,+-81.2956361+to:28.6039167,+-81.2876111+to:28.5993583,+-81.30325+to:28.5853389,+-81.2959361+to:28.5993583,+-81.30325&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=28.504185,-81.278658&sspn=0.016745,0.027637&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=11
Manny
09-29-2008, 11:18 AM
623-209-4511
If you google this you will see it is from Glendale, AZ. It is also under a list of numbers from those pesky sales callls.
Georgia101957
09-29-2008, 11:20 AM
JCPenny 800-***-0800 11:09 am June 27th
JCPenny 800-***-0800 11:09 am June 27th
I looked that one up too...wonder why she called penny's?
wasn't there a receipt from pennys missing?
Georgia101957
09-29-2008, 11:25 AM
I believe she was using CA's JC Penny card, maybe she was checking the limit so she could go shopping :waitasec:
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 11:25 AM
Looks like on 6-16 she started by her parents that evening - in the morning she was up in Golden Rod, AL lives in the area on the pings I mapped.
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 11:29 AM
It breaks her pattern to go close to 12 hours with no contact with anyone....to me this is a suspicious timeframe
Seems to me she got AL, and turned off her phone, looks like thats where she was the night of the 16th.
Celt1997
09-29-2008, 11:31 AM
Can anyone find the following cell tower?
28.4691667, -81.2916667
There was a ping on the 17th from there. It appears to be in the vicinity of S. Goldenrod & Lee Vista, but I can't bring it up on any aerial view, or on maps.live "Bird's Eye" view.
In fact it looks like it's part of a housing development?
bullet225ho
09-29-2008, 11:34 AM
I'm not sure where some are seeing a 12hr break on the 15th or 16th.
She actually was on the phone non stop....only around 3 hrs sleep between the 15th and 16th.
And it looks like she was not driving up and down goldenrod but at a house that split the two towers. basically depending on where in the house she'd hit the tower around Vista Blvd or the tower near Quail Pond st.
Celt1997
09-29-2008, 11:37 AM
She was very habitual in where she was each day. Any deviation from that norm should be easy to spot, but right now I keep seeing the same towers over and over again.
bullet225ho
09-29-2008, 11:38 AM
Can anyone find the following cell tower?
28.4691667, -81.2916667
There was a ping on the 17th from there. It appears to be in the vicinity of S. Goldenrod & Lee Vista, but I can't bring it up on any aerial view, or on maps.live "Bird's Eye" view.
In fact it looks like it's part of a housing development?
Yes... This does show in a new houseing development.
Don't see the tower there at those cordinates....but it's a nice fountain in the pond.
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 11:39 AM
28.4547222, -81.2636111, I found is a tower south of parents home or near a new development south of there.
Georgia101957
09-29-2008, 11:39 AM
Does anyone know if her Nokia phone was a GPS model?
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 11:40 AM
I'm not sure where some are seeing a 12hr break on the 15th or 16th.
She actually was on the phone non stop....only around 3 hrs sleep between the 15th and 16th.
And it looks like she was not driving up and down goldenrod but at a house that split the two towers. basically depending on where in the house she'd hit the tower around Vista Blvd or the tower near Quail Pond st.
Sorry the 12 hour break is from the 16-17, not 15-16
Wine sleuth
09-29-2008, 11:45 AM
Great work!! Who is William W? I haven't found JP's number.
These are the ones I have found
Daniel Howard 513-2**-1725
Ryan Lopez 973-5**-2419
Nate 772-7**-5882
Casey Anthony 407-6**-9286
Casey Home 407-2**-4909
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-3**-6333
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-2**-6558
Anthony Lazarro 407-2**-2789
Anthony Lazzaro 631-9**-5443
Amy 954-3**-9214
Jessie Grund 407-4**-9293
Lee Anthony 407-80*-5132
Cindy Anthony 407-6**-7992
Cindy Anthony 407-8**-4731
George Anthony 407-3**-2900
George Anthony 407-4**-3564
Kristina Chester 407-9**-0214
Jonathon Daly 407-4**-9279
Sean Daly 407-4**-3475
Danny Calamarino 321-6**-6897
Maria Kishh 904-6**-3687
Annie Downing 407-9**-2176
Matthew Crisp 407-6**-5585
Matthew Crisp 407-7**-7965
Bobby Williams 407-8**-8009
Bobby Williams 407-2**-9032
Jeff D. Hopkins 407-2**-2789
Jeff Hopkins II 407-9**-7509
Ricardo Morales 813-4**-8750
Brian Burner 407-4**-2918
Kiomarie 407-4**-9966
Heather Mcdonald 321-4**-4997
Ryan Pasley 407-4**-8191
Did I miss something?? Zenaida's ## ??? Is that real??
bullet225ho
09-29-2008, 11:45 AM
She probably crashed from the all nighter from the day before. Probably had to get some sleep.
I'm going to look at the 16 - 17 now.
CarrieBean
09-29-2008, 11:48 AM
Can anyone find the following cell tower?
28.4691667, -81.2916667
There was a ping on the 17th from there. It appears to be in the vicinity of S. Goldenrod & Lee Vista, but I can't bring it up on any aerial view, or on maps.live "Bird's Eye" view.
In fact it looks like it's part of a housing development?
So far, the only tower I see is east of that development, on the other side of S Goldenrod...just behind that bush.
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 11:52 AM
Wait???
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-3**-6333
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-2**-6558
Are we for real right now?
Wise Old Owl
09-29-2008, 11:55 AM
that comes up as 6700 lee vista blvd. - I'm assuming that's the one when she is at the house - if you look at it on mapquest its like right around the corner from the house
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 11:56 AM
Casey Anthony 407-6**-9286
Casey Home 407-2**-4909
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-3**-6333
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-2**-6558
Anthony Lazarro 407-2**-2789
Anthony Lazzaro 631-9**-5443
Amy 954-3**-9214
Are these just listed? Or are they on her phone records?
Do the calls/pings support or disprove george's claim of seeing her at the home on the 16th?
ketel0ne
09-29-2008, 12:00 PM
Do the calls/pings support or disprove george's claim of seeing her at the home on the 16th?
IMO it shows Casey was home til about 4:15-4:25pm on the 16th.
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 12:07 PM
IMO it shows Casey was home til about 4:15-4:25pm on the 16th.
Which goes against GA saying he saw them leave around 1pm
ketel0ne
09-29-2008, 12:09 PM
Which goes against GA saying he saw them leave around 1pm
As all the Anthony's say: "ABSOLUTELY"
Ladytazz
09-29-2008, 12:11 PM
Which goes against GA saying he saw them leave around 1pm
Unless she came back after GA left. Which also goes along with the theory that something happened to Caylee in the house on the 16th.
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 12:14 PM
Unless she came back after GA left. Which also goes along with the theory that something happened to Caylee in the house on the 16th.
But it appears that the pings that entire day she never left the house. At least from what I can tell. Then left and went to the Golden Rod area of town.
CarrieBean
09-29-2008, 12:15 PM
If i'm reading this right, it looks there there were a bunch of unanswered calls between Casey and TL in the early morning hours of the 16th. Starting at 1:05am, until he reached her at 3:08am. More the night before. Then one more unanswered call. Am I reading this right?
ketel0ne
09-29-2008, 12:16 PM
Unless she came back after GA left. Which also goes along with the theory that something happened to Caylee in the house on the 16th.
Based on the calls and SMS's from 12:53pm til 4:15pm the towers never change from the 2 at the house. During that time there is a long call to Amy and a 12 minute call with Jesse.
78gidget78
09-29-2008, 12:18 PM
sorry all, i can't look at the docs this minute, but can someone tell me what timeframe the three hours of no calls is, morning, night, etc. many thanks
ketel0ne
09-29-2008, 12:18 PM
If i'm reading this right, it looks there there were a bunch of unanswered calls between Casey to TL in the early morning of the 16th. Starting at 1:05am, until he reached her at 3:08am. More the night before. Then one more unanswered call. Am I reading this right?
Between 8pm 6/15 and 3am 6/16 there is roughly 50 text messages and phone calls between them. From midnight to 3am are all SMS til he calls her.
ketel0ne
09-29-2008, 12:21 PM
sorry all, i can't look at the docs this minute, but can someone tell me what timeframe the three hours of no calls is, morning, night, etc. many thanks Which day? There is a break from 3am to 7:45am on the morning of the 16th?
SheRuns
09-29-2008, 12:21 PM
whose # is 407-754-4058
Yes, Whose number is this? :waitasec:
seeker78
09-29-2008, 12:25 PM
While I have nothing to add to the cell phone ping map, never underestimate the power that Casey has over men for some reason (and the fact that folks have stated she had an accomplice). I wholeheartedly believe she was involved in this, but she may have had someone else at the house that actually took the body (if the alleged murder took place at the house). I hope they are pulling pings for folks like AL, etc.
redtailhawk
09-29-2008, 12:26 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2751291&postcount=44
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2751448&postcount=45
Here are some tools that may be helpful. I had posted these in the Jury room thread.
CarrieBean
09-29-2008, 12:33 PM
Between 8pm 6/15 and 3am 6/16 there is roughly 50 text messages and phone calls between them. From midnight to 3am are all SMS til he calls her.
Thanks
Kakax
09-29-2008, 12:46 PM
Wait???
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-3**-6333
Zenaida Gonzalez 407-2**-6558
Are we for real right now?
It was the Zenaida that was interviewed by police...from her guest card and interview. Just thought it might be interesting if Casey had tried to verify her number. That's all.
Amster
09-29-2008, 12:47 PM
She had or called ZG phone???
oooops....already answered....thanks!
Kakax
09-29-2008, 12:48 PM
Which goes against GA saying he saw them leave around 1pm
Unless she left for a few minutes and came back after he left.
Kakax
09-29-2008, 12:50 PM
Are these just listed? Or are they on her phone records?
They are from the evidence files. Sorry I didn't make that clear. I went through and jotted down all the numbers I could find. I haven't made it to the second set of documents yet.
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 12:56 PM
So from what I am gathering together, the key date to me is 6-16 to 6-17, since no one can say they've seen Caylee since the 16th.
And against the cell records for now, it's appears Casey told the truth regarding one thing "she's close to home".
Of course unless she drove around with the baby in the trunk. So should we fast forward back to the 24-27th now?
jademonkey
09-29-2008, 12:57 PM
Do we think since Casey was a CSI buff that on the day she disposed of the body she left her phone at home or elsewhere so that she couldn't be traced? I think she would be smart enough to know not to call someone from where she was disposing the body. Maybe she went out by the airport, made a few calls then left her phone out there for a while just to get everybody off track. ie..went to the woods made a few calls, laid her phone down in the grass so it would get the pings. She then takes off and goes somewhere else discards the body and then comes back and gets her phone later. Is this possible?
SheRuns
09-29-2008, 01:01 PM
Do we think since Casey was a CSI buff that on the day she disposed of the body she left her phone at home or elsewhere so that she couldn't be traced? I think she would be smart enough to know not to call someone from where she was disposing the body. Maybe she went out by the airport, made a few calls then left her phone out there for a while just to get everybody off track. ie..went to the woods made a few calls, laid her phone down in the grass so it would get the pings. She then takes off and goes somewhere else discards the body and then comes back and gets her phone later. Is this possible?
Very clever thinking. Do you think she thought this out that much?!? Also, where are you finding the airport "pings" in the phone logs? I've been jumping back and forth between the 16th/17th and the 26th/27th so I may not have crossed the airport "ping" part yet.
concentric
09-29-2008, 01:02 PM
Once you guys get the location of the pings:
There is an excellent mapping service here. The Bird's Eye views show more detail than I've ever seen. I've set it on Orlando, but you can enter any area, such as forests, parks, lakes, etc. Enter your area, then select Bird's Eye view.
http://www.multimap.com/maps/#map=28.53775,-81.37735|12|4&bd=useful_information&loc=US:28.53775:-81.37735:12|Orlando,%20FL|Orlando,%20Florida,%20Un ited%20States
SleuthinCa
09-29-2008, 01:04 PM
Do we think since Casey was a CSI buff that on the day she disposed of the body she left her phone at home or elsewhere so that she couldn't be traced? I think she would be smart enough to know not to call someone from where she was disposing the body. Maybe she went out by the airport, made a few calls then left her phone out there for a while just to get everybody off track. ie..went to the woods made a few calls, laid her phone down in the grass so it would get the pings. She then takes off and goes somewhere else discards the body and then comes back and gets her phone later. Is this possible?
I think that is exactly something she would do.
BondJamesBond
09-29-2008, 01:11 PM
My apologies in advance if this has been asked & answered. I didn't see it in a quick scan of the thread.
1) If I understand cell technology, basically, if a phone is in-transit, the phone's signal rides on a cell tower until it moves in range of the next tower. The phone can be in-transit within the range of a single tower (e.g. driving around in a neighborhood) and the tower record will be indistinguishable from a stationary phone in the same tower range. I'm not going anywhere in particular with this one...only asking those more knowledgable on the matter to confirm that this is correct.
2) Is there a good rule-of-thumb standard (e.g. X-miles) to use on the range of a cell around a tower? IOW...drawing a X mile radius around each of these towers would likely encompass the exact location where the cell was when it was recorded.
3) Recall the early call between Lee and Casey from jail when Casey commented on poor cell reception from Hopesprings Drive. Ironic, eh?
Wine sleuth
09-29-2008, 01:14 PM
Do we think since Casey was a CSI buff that on the day she disposed of the body she left her phone at home or elsewhere so that she couldn't be traced? I think she would be smart enough to know not to call someone from where she was disposing the body. Maybe she went out by the airport, made a few calls then left her phone out there for a while just to get everybody off track. ie..went to the woods made a few calls, laid her phone down in the grass so it would get the pings. She then takes off and goes somewhere else discards the body and then comes back and gets her phone later. Is this possible?
I think that's more credit than she deserves for being intelligent. She seemed to be confused about the whole sim card thing. And she may have said she likes the crime shows to impress boyfriend of the day. I don't think she was off the phone long enough to watch tv.
Black Magic Woman
09-29-2008, 01:16 PM
Do we think since Casey was a CSI buff that on the day she disposed of the body she left her phone at home or elsewhere so that she couldn't be traced? I think she would be smart enough to know not to call someone from where she was disposing the body. Maybe she went out by the airport, made a few calls then left her phone out there for a while just to get everybody off track. ie..went to the woods made a few calls, laid her phone down in the grass so it would get the pings. She then takes off and goes somewhere else discards the body and then comes back and gets her phone later. Is this possible?I'm a CSI buff also but unfortunetly CA has ruined that for me as every time I watch now I'm reminded that she loved the show. However, I think you make a good point and I've thought the same. I believe she has manipulated the evidence/forensics to cover her arse. As much as we all hate her..have to admit that she is intelligent. I think she very well may have left her phone somewhere to through off the evidence.
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 01:17 PM
Do we think since Casey was a CSI buff that on the day she disposed of the body she left her phone at home or elsewhere so that she couldn't be traced? I think she would be smart enough to know not to call someone from where she was disposing the body. Maybe she went out by the airport, made a few calls then left her phone out there for a while just to get everybody off track. ie..went to the woods made a few calls, laid her phone down in the grass so it would get the pings. She then takes off and goes somewhere else discards the body and then comes back and gets her phone later. Is this possible?
I believe so, anything is possible.
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 01:20 PM
I think that's more credit than she deserves for being intelligent. She seemed to be confused about the whole sim card thing. And she may have said she likes the crime shows to impress boyfriend of the day. I don't think she was off the phone long enough to watch tv.
I'm not sure about that. I think she's a pretty smart girl, I think she's trying to play dumb. If she were so stupid, I think they'd found Caylee by now.
Black Magic Woman
09-29-2008, 01:21 PM
If anyone wants to get her complete phone book list, I'm guessing it will be the very last few pages where LE/Lee? is sending out that text message.I'm very interested in her complete phone book list (contacts) Liltigress but don't understand your post. sorry I'm so dense, but where can I find it please?
FootballMom
09-29-2008, 01:22 PM
Hey everyone,
I have an excel spreadsheet that I'm compliling all the numbers, players, locations, etc. I'm saving it to the jury room but it needs help...
Thanks!!!
leandjl
09-29-2008, 01:25 PM
I'm really curious about the cell phone pings on the day she showed up at Chris S. home,I believe it was the a.m. of June 16th/17th driving Tony's jeep. What do phone records show? I can't view at work and had trouble at home on my computer. I hope I have that story straight - it came from Chris S. transcript.
Celt1997
09-29-2008, 01:39 PM
Can anyone help me decipher these two lines?
6/16 7:45:51 Looks like Casey (9286) tried calling someone (407-2**-7686). Does anyone know who this is?
Then the following line is directly under it:
6/16 7:45:51 The Anthony home phone (4909) tried calling Casey's phone.
How does this work with the same time being listed...and who is the 7686 number?
QuietStorm
09-29-2008, 01:43 PM
Here are phone logs for Casey from 6/1 to 7/17 they take along time to download so you have to be patient, and easier to read if you use full screen. I found these on a google search and havent gone thru them all so hopefully all the links work ok. Also there are two part 6 but they are different records.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635917/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part1 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635917/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part1)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635928/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part2 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635928/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part2)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635999/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part3 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1635999/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part3)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636130/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part4 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636130/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part4)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636127/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log__Part5 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636127/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log__Part5)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636160/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636160/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636217/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6 (http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1636217/Casey_Anthony_Cell_Log_part6) Are her text messages going to be released -- does anyone know?
JustanotherJane
09-29-2008, 01:44 PM
Between 8pm 6/15 and 3am 6/16 there is roughly 50 text messages and phone calls between them. From midnight to 3am are all SMS til he calls her.
Do these show her at home? thanks
beetrue
09-29-2008, 01:51 PM
Thanks for all the info!
So, there are 2 different "airports"
Casey only had one call on Tuesday from outside the airport
She loses BOTH her phones & cannot explain this
She only had the Blackjack one week
It contained info from the other phone......
There are persons she knows that work in this area outside the Int'l Airport
Who's house was she living at June 16-17-18?
she only lost one phone, the blackjack. her nokia was at TL's and LE picked that up.
Celt1997
09-29-2008, 01:57 PM
Okay, on 6/20 I also noticed the following numbers that I don't see attached to anyone. These are numbers that Casey called.
1:16pm - 407-9**-0982, the call lasted 1 minute.
1:18pm - 407-4**-9700, the call lasted 1 minute...BUT
immediately after she called that number, someone at the 9700 number called her right back to speak for 4 minutes @ 1:19pm.
The reason these stuck out to me was because the lat/long of the tower that pinged Casey's call was different for most that I had seen. This one was a tower on South Semoran between Whisper Lake Lane & Terry Brook Drive.
(28.5836111, -81.3052778).
Even more frightening is the fact that this tower sits in the middle of a Personal Store-and-Lock type place.
Can anyone match these numbers up?
jademonkey
09-29-2008, 01:58 PM
Very clever thinking. Do you think she thought this out that much?!? Also, where are you finding the airport "pings" in the phone logs? I've been jumping back and forth between the 16th/17th and the 26th/27th so I may not have crossed the airport "ping" part yet.
I haven't seen them but I know that's where the investigators focused because of supposed cell phone pings.
beetrue
09-29-2008, 02:01 PM
Okay, on 6/20 I also noticed the following numbers that I don't see attached to anyone. These are numbers that Casey called.
1:16pm - 407-9**-0982, the call lasted 1 minute.
1:18pm - 407-4**-9700, the call lasted 1 minute...BUT
immediately after she called that number, someone at the 9700 number called her right back to speak for 4 minutes @ 1:19pm.
The reason these stuck out to me was because the lat/long of the tower that pinged Casey's call was different for most that I had seen. This one was a tower on South Semoran between Whisper Lake Lane & Terry Brook Drive.
(28.5836111, -81.3052778).
Even more frightening is the fact that this tower sits in the middle of a Personal Store-and-Lock type place.
Can anyone match these numbers up?
Could that be AH's storage?
GumShoe209
09-29-2008, 02:01 PM
I haven't seen this map mentioned unless I missed it but there is a great map at terra server that has longitude and latitude
http://terraserver-usa.com/
Georgia101957
09-29-2008, 02:03 PM
Here is a site with cell tower locations in Orlando.
http://www.cellreception.com/towers/towers.php?city=orlando&state_abr=fl
concentric
09-29-2008, 02:08 PM
Okay, on 6/20 I also noticed the following numbers that I don't see attached to anyone. These are numbers that Casey called.
1:16pm - 407-9**-0982, the call lasted 1 minute.
1:18pm - 407-4**-9700, the call lasted 1 minute...BUT
immediately after she called that number, someone at the 9700 number called her right back to speak for 4 minutes @ 1:19pm.
The reason these stuck out to me was because the lat/long of the tower that pinged Casey's call was different for most that I had seen. This one was a tower on South Semoran between Whisper Lake Lane & Terry Brook Drive.
Even more frightening is the fact that this tower sits in the middle of a Personal Store-and-Lock type place.
(28.5836111, -81.3052778).
Can anyone match these numbers up?
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Is this it? I entered the above lat/long on the mapping service I mentioned earlier:
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?zoom=13&countryCode=US&lat=28.37833&lon=-81.19028#map=28.58331,-81.30579|14|4&p=mm.poi.global.premium.wifi&bd=useful_information&loc=US:28.58361:-81.30528:14|28.5836111,%20-81.3052778|Lat:%2028.5836111,%20Lon:%20-81.3052778
Celt1997
09-29-2008, 02:10 PM
------------------------------------------------
Is this it? I entered the above lat/long on the mapping service I mentioned earlier:
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?zoom=13&countryCode=US&lat=28.37833&lon=-81.19028#map=28.58331,-81.30579|14|4&p=mm.poi.global.premium.wifi&bd=useful_information&loc=US:28.58361:-81.30528:14|28.5836111,%20-81.3052778|Lat:%2028.5836111,%20Lon:%20-81.3052778
Yes, that is correct. I'm checking the calls immediately after that location, and they go back to the tower near Forsyth & E. Colonial.
Georgia101957
09-29-2008, 02:10 PM
Could that be AH's storage?
Here's a screenshot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/blensch/ScreenHunter_7.jpg
jademonkey
09-29-2008, 02:11 PM
I'm not sure about that. I think she's a pretty smart girl, I think she's trying to play dumb. If she were so stupid, I think they'd found Caylee by now.
Your right! I keep seeing her borrowing the neighbors shovel, backing her car in the garage and then going in and watching tv for an hour. Taking the shovel back and going on her way. She Knows this would come out in the future and I mean it's just such an obvious thing NOT to do in her situation.
Who would back their car in a garage, leave the door open, go borrow a shovel from your own neighbor if you were going to dig a whole in your yard and bury your daughter or dig her up and take her somewhere else?
I think she did it to get people focused on that day and that scenario and then she did something totally different without leaving obvious traces!
It's really her whole so called plan...everything she has said or done is leading people on wild goose chases. Her so-called plan is to keep everyone running everywhere except to Caylee. I believe Caylee is somewhere where she has no connection, no friends etc... Used all the gas can gas to get there, leaving no traces, didn't take her cell phone etc.... I mean if she drove a couple hours to a place she has no connection, put her in a dumpster and came back then she has a perfect plan. Were tracing cell phones, looking at the dumpsters or landfills in areas of known connection. Maybe that is why she put her car right next to a dumpster at Amscot. She knew they would search the land fill associated with where that trash was dumped but not one from a town a couple of hours away.
JMHO
redtailhawk
09-29-2008, 02:13 PM
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?zoom=13&countryCode=US&lat=28.37833&lon=-81.19028#map=28.58327,-81.30563|19|256&be=3889552|North&p=mm.poi.global.premium.wifi&bd=useful_information&loc=US:28.58361:-81.30528:14|28.5836111,%20-81.3052778|Lat:%2028.5836111,%20Lon:%20-81.3052778
A link to the "birds-eye view"
Terilee
09-29-2008, 02:14 PM
My apologies in advance if this has been asked & answered. I didn't see it in a quick scan of the thread.
1) If I understand cell technology, basically, if a phone is in-transit, the phone's signal rides on a cell tower until it moves in range of the next tower. The phone can be in-transit within the range of a single tower (e.g. driving around in a neighborhood) and the tower record will be indistinguishable from a stationary phone in the same tower range. I'm not going anywhere in particular with this one...only asking those more knowledgable on the matter to confirm that this is correct.
2) Is there a good rule-of-thumb standard (e.g. X-miles) to use on the range of a cell around a tower? IOW...drawing a X mile radius around each of these towers would likely encompass the exact location where the cell was when it was recorded.
3) Recall the early call between Lee and Casey from jail when Casey commented on poor cell reception from Hopesprings Drive. Ironic, eh?
answer to question #2
about one straight mile maximum. (maybe 1 and half miles with good line of sight)
Depending on how close the towers sit -the signal will get "handed off" to the next available tower (stronger signal)
tiredofthis
09-29-2008, 02:16 PM
Your right! I keep seeing her borrowing the neighbors shovel, backing her car in the garage and then going in and watching tv for an hour. Taking the shovel back and going on her way. She Knows this would come out in the future and I mean it's just such an obvious thing NOT to do in her situation.
Who in would back their car in a garage, leave door open, go borrow a shovel from your own neighbor if you were going to dig a whole in your yard and bury your daughter or dig her up and take her somewhere else?
I think she did it to get people focused on that day and that scenario and then she did something totally different without leaving obvious traces!
It's really her whole so called plan...everything she has said or done is leading people on wild goose chases. Her so-called plan is to keep everyone running everywhere except to Caylee. I believe Caylee is somewhere where she has no connection, no friends etc... Used all the gas can gas to get there, leaving no traces, didn't take her cell phone etc.... I mean if she drove a couple hours to a place she has no connection to, put her in a dumpster and came back then she has a perfect plan. Were tracing cell phones, looking at the dumpsters or landfills in areas of known connection. Maybe that is why she put her car right next to a dumpster at Amscot. She new they would search the land fill associated with where that trashed was dumped but not one from a town a couple of hours away.
JMHO
Things that make you go hmmmm.
You might be on to something.
Celt1997
09-29-2008, 02:35 PM
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?zoom=13&countryCode=US&lat=28.37833&lon=-81.19028#map=28.58327,-81.30563|19|256&be=3889552|North&p=mm.poi.global.premium.wifi&bd=useful_information&loc=US:28.58361:-81.30528:14|28.5836111,%20-81.3052778|Lat:%2028.5836111,%20Lon:%20-81.3052778
A link to the "birds-eye view"
The only other time I could find this cell tower being used by Casey is on 7/15/08.
AL (5443) sent her a text message @ 1:10pm.
She responed with her own text @ 1:10pm.
Cindy's phone (4731) then called Casey @ 1:11pm for a 1.5 minute conversation.
All of these were reported at the N. Semoran Public Storage tower.
zjsmommy
09-29-2008, 02:50 PM
if the cell phone pinged in an area with storage building. that may seriously be looked into. my understanding is that amy had a storage unit. i would guess that casey had or could get access to the storage unit. Did amy ever move? Has she been to her storage unit since all of this went down???
Smoking Gun
09-29-2008, 02:51 PM
hello,
I am new here but have been lurking for quite some time.
In regards to the public storage that belonges to
Amy, I am sure I read somewhere here that the key that Lee destroyed belonged to that storage space don't know how to find that refernce
redtailhawk
09-29-2008, 02:53 PM
hello,
I am new here but have been lurking for quite some time.
In regards to the public storage that belonges to
Amy, I am sure I read somewhere here that the key that Lee destroyed belonged to that storage space don't know how to find that refernce
The reference is in the Lee A. interview transcripts, Page 26 lines 1 - 18.
I was curious why she wouldn't come pick up the key, rather than being OK with Lee destroying? it?
aqua_mom
09-29-2008, 02:55 PM
Your right! I keep seeing her borrowing the neighbors shovel, backing her car in the garage and then going in and watching tv for an hour. Taking the shovel back and going on her way. She Knows this would come out in the future and I mean it's just such an obvious thing NOT to do in her situation.
Who in would back their car in a garage, leave door open, go borrow a shovel from your own neighbor if you were going to dig a whole in your yard and bury your daughter or dig her up and take her somewhere else?
I think she did it to get people focused on that day and that scenario and then she did something totally different without leaving obvious traces!
It's really her whole so called plan...everything she has said or done is leading people on wild goose chases. Her so-called plan is to keep everyone running everywhere except to Caylee. I believe Caylee is somewhere where she has no connection, no friends etc... Used all the gas can gas to get there, leaving no traces, didn't take her cell phone etc.... I mean if she drove a couple hours to a place she has no connection to, put her in a dumpster and came back then she has a perfect plan. Were tracing cell phones, looking at the dumpsters or landfills in areas of known connection. Maybe that is why she put her car right next to a dumpster at Amscot. She new they would search the land fill associated with where that trashed was dumped but not one from a town a couple of hours away.
JMHO
I guess anything is possible. It just seems to me a whole lot of work and effort to do this and she doesn't strike me as the type to really go out of her way that much. Her lies seem to me as lies of convenience and to keep up appearances but I'm not convinced she'd go through all this to throw people off a "scent." But who really knows the mind of KC.
I agree she is intelligent but more in a 'quick-study' kind of way. Not in a out smart/outwit, thinking on your feet, big picture kind of smart - if that makes any sense ;)
I was gone all weekend so I haven't been able to catch up on everything but I'd had a thought this morning about the flurry of calls on the 16th, was it?
Since her phone was disconnected later that day or the next day, how about she made those calls in a panic to her parents to have them pay the bill? I have had times when I'd forgotten to pay my bill and get a little text on my phone letting me know that service might be interrupted. We know that her cell phone is her lifeline and the fact they didn't seem too anxious to answer her calls or respond makes me think they were perhaps trying to teach her a lesson. All conjecture of course, just curious if this might fit and provide another possible scenario for those calls.
concentric
09-29-2008, 02:56 PM
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?zoom=13&countryCode=US&lat=28.37833&lon=-81.19028#map=28.58327,-81.30563|19|256&be=3889552|North&p=mm.poi.global.premium.wifi&bd=useful_information&loc=US:28.58361:-81.30528:14|28.5836111,%20-81.3052778|Lat:%2028.5836111,%20Lon:%20-81.3052778
A link to the "birds-eye view"
Thanks for reposting that, as I was in the process of reposting the BEV, as mentioned earlier on the find of this excellent mapping service.
je pense donc
09-29-2008, 02:58 PM
Maybe the key he destoyed was a key to the car she totaled?
Celt1997
09-29-2008, 02:58 PM
if the cell phone pinged in an area with storage building. that may seriously be looked into. my understanding is that amy had a storage unit. i would guess that casey had or could get access to the storage unit. Did amy ever move? Has she been to her storage unit since all of this went down???
Do we know what storage company Amy had? This particular tower is in the parking lot of a United Stor-All, and has an address of 965 S. Semoran Blvd.
There is confusion over South vs. North Semoran. It is actually South Semoran because it becomes Winter Park, Florida, not Orlando at that point. Kind of odd that North Semoran becomes South as you go North :waitasec:.
momtective
09-29-2008, 03:17 PM
hello,
I am new here but have been lurking for quite some time.
In regards to the public storage that belonges to
Amy, I am sure I read somewhere here that the key that Lee destroyed belonged to that storage space don't know how to find that refernce
I remember this too but I didn't know it was to her storage, I thought it was to her car. Anywho...why destroy it? Why not just give it back?
I posted here a while back in another tread tat I felt she could have placed Caylee in a storage unit. OMG at this point I believe anything is possible with KC. Evil.....she is pure EVIL!
momtective
09-29-2008, 03:25 PM
Originally Posted by Smoking Gun View Post
hello,
I am new here but have been lurking for quite some time.
BTW Welcome to WS Smoking Gun...you're gonna love it here!
one_hooah_wife
09-29-2008, 03:47 PM
Can anyone help me decipher these two lines?
6/16 7:45:51 Looks like Casey (9286) tried calling someone (407-2**-7686). Does anyone know who this is?
Then the following line is directly under it:
6/16 7:45:51 The Anthony home phone (4909) tried calling Casey's phone.
How does this work with the same time being listed...and who is the 7686 number?
(407-2**-7686) is ATT voice mail
GumShoe209
09-29-2008, 03:49 PM
I don't know if this will help with the pings but if you check the Evidence and Incident Report the last six pages shows images and timestamped 19:54 on June 16th
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608evidence/1/lg/Evidence_and_incident_reports_Page_39.htm
And in the Computer Forensics Report on page 32 of 39 is a receipt from Blockbuster dated June 16th at 19:58 -- the phone number appears to be the Blockbuster in Winter Park
Blockbuster Video
(407) 657-8414 See reviews on Local 7702 University Blvd
Winter Park, FL
http://maps.yahoo.com/map?q1=7702%20University%20Blvd%20Winter%20Park%20 FL&mag=5&ard=1#mvt=m&lat=28.597221&lon=-81.283743&mag=5&zoom=13&q1=7702%20University%20Blvd%20Winter%20Park%20FL
jademonkey
09-29-2008, 03:55 PM
I guess anything is possible. It just seems to me a whole lot of work and effort to do this and she doesn't strike me as the type to really go out of her way that much. Her lies seem to me as lies of convenience and to keep up appearances but I'm not convinced she'd go through all this to throw people off a "scent." But who really knows the mind of KC.
I agree she is intelligent but more in a 'quick-study' kind of way. Not in a out smart/outwit, thinking on your feet, big picture kind of smart - if that makes any sense ;)
I was gone all weekend so I haven't been able to catch up on everything but I'd had a thought this morning about the flurry of calls on the 16th, was it?
Since her phone was disconnected later that day or the next day, how about she made those calls in a panic to her parents to have them pay the bill? I have had times when I'd forgotten to pay my bill and get a little text on my phone letting me know that service might be interrupted. We know that her cell phone is her lifeline and the fact they didn't seem too anxious to answer her calls or respond makes me think they were perhaps trying to teach her a lesson. All conjecture of course, just curious if this might fit and provide another possible scenario for those calls.
If your trying to cover your arse for murdering your daughter I think you might put out a little effort. Heck she created email accounts and emailed herself letters from ...her make believe boss, with make believe job details and cc'd her make believe friends just to prove she had a job.
As to the outwit/outsmart comment...I think it was on her cupid (?) profile she talks about survivor being the reality show she would most like to be on. She said something to the fact of how she liked that you had to outwit, outsmart and out last everyone. She was also a CSI fan supposedly.
I think this is a game to her as her as her life has been. She steals, lies, charms, manipulates, parties and just apparently loves drama! When one game or group of friends is over she moves to the next.
I can't wait to say " GAME OVER" to Casey!
Great thought on the flurry of phone calls. I hadn't thought of that but that could be. Your right that living without her phone was not an option. Her daughter, sure, but living w/out her phone, NO WAY!
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 04:06 PM
I don't know if this will help with the pings but if you check the Evidence and Incident Report the last six pages shows images and timestamped 19:54 on June 16th
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608evidence/1/lg/Evidence_and_incident_reports_Page_39.htm
And in the Computer Forensics Report on page 32 of 39 is a receipt from Blockbuster dated June 16th at 19:58 -- the phone number appears to be the Blockbuster in Winter Park
Blockbuster Video
(407) 657-8414 See reviews on Local 7702 University Blvd
Winter Park, FL
http://maps.yahoo.com/map?q1=7702%20University%20Blvd%20Winter%20Park%20 FL&mag=5&ard=1#mvt=m&lat=28.597221&lon=-81.283743&mag=5&zoom=13&q1=7702%20University%20Blvd%20Winter%20Park%20FL
Wonder if thats when she rented American Psycho and wrote "Diary of Days"
Hmmmm
Pink Panther
09-29-2008, 04:27 PM
I don't know if this will help with the pings but if you check the Evidence and Incident Report the last six pages shows images and timestamped 19:54 on June 16th
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092608evidence/1/lg/Evidence_and_incident_reports_Page_39.htm
And in the Computer Forensics Report on page 32 of 39 is a receipt from Blockbuster dated June 16th at 19:58 -- the phone number appears to be the Blockbuster in Winter Park
Blockbuster Video
(407) 657-8414 See reviews on Local 7702 University Blvd
Winter Park, FL
http://maps.yahoo.com/map?q1=7702%20University%20Blvd%20Winter%20Park%20 FL&mag=5&ard=1#mvt=m&lat=28.597221&lon=-81.283743&mag=5&zoom=13&q1=7702%20University%20Blvd%20Winter%20Park%20FL
I tried to see what was in those pics but I can't make much out! Can someone please describe them! :waitasec:
sharpar
09-29-2008, 04:36 PM
In trying to think like a crimminal - do any of her friends have the same
phone as her ? I can see her switching them then claiming accident
so the cell phone records wouldnt help find caylee . No one has mentioned anything like this so far in the interviews ..................
I see her being cunning enough to try and pull this off and possibly
succeeding
BondJamesBond
09-29-2008, 04:38 PM
Wonder if thats when she rented American Psycho and wrote "Diary of Days"
Hmmmm
From the computer forensics report she created the Diary of Days MSWord doc on 7/2. Dunno if she finished it then, but, that's when the file w/ that name was first created.
BondJamesBond
09-29-2008, 04:42 PM
In trying to think like a crimminal *snipped*
...that I somehow narrowly avoided a wisearse remark to this comment shows that my therapy is working... :)
Black Magic Woman
09-29-2008, 04:44 PM
If your trying to cover your arse for murdering your daughter I think you might put out a little effort. Heck she created email accounts and emailed herself letters from ...her make believe boss, with make believe job details and cc'd her make believe friends just to prove she had a job.
As to the outwit/outsmart comment...I think it was on her cupid (?) profile she talks about survivor being the reality show she would most like to be on. She said something to the fact of how she liked that you had to outwit, outsmart and out last everyone. She was also a CSI fan supposedly.
I think this is a game to her as her as her life has been. She steals, lies, charms, manipulates, parties and just apparently loves drama! When one game or group of friends is over she moves to the next.
Great thought on the flurry of phone calls. I hadn't thought of that but that could be. Your right that living without her phone was not an option. Her daughter, sure, but living w/out her phone, NO WAY!I can't wait to say " GAME OVER" to Casey!Just want to say I think you're right on about her thinking. I feel exactly the same about her and believe that she was more than capable of thinking ahead and on her feet to cover her hinny.
Black Magic Woman
09-29-2008, 04:48 PM
...that I somehow narrowly avoided a wisearse remark to this comment shows that my therapy is working... :)glad you didn't relapse! Just want to say that I'm thrilled to see you on this thread as I've observed how astute your other sleuthing is. I'm impressed.....unfortunately with this ping info I'm also confused! Ok Bond do your stuff.
Pink Panther
09-29-2008, 04:49 PM
I haven't had a chance to read through this thread yet but I will as soon as I can
In the meantime - I just wanted to throw out an idea...When looking at potential bodies of water - I would focus on lakes and ponds that have bridges (accessible either by car or foot). My thinking here is that KC doesn't seem to have had access to a boat (unless we've missed something big) so, if she were to try to dispose of Caylee in water, a bridge would come in handy...
Just thinking out loud and thought that would maybe be something to keep an eye out for.
Lovejac
09-29-2008, 04:50 PM
I tried to see what was in those pics but I can't make much out! Can someone please describe them! :waitasec:
They are pictures from inside Blockbuster. From what I can tell, it looks like Tony is with her
RebeccaAdrianne
09-29-2008, 04:50 PM
From the computer forensics report she created the Diary of Days MSWord doc on 7/2. Dunno if she finished it then, but, that's when the file w/ that name was first created.
You know, I am off work tomorrow, I think I will map out her whereabouts for that date 7-1 to 7-4. Seeing that she was "inspired" to write such a telling tip-bit that day. Even if she cut and pasted from a song, something had to have happened recently to make her think of such a thing.
Black Magic Woman
09-29-2008, 04:52 PM
Don't we feel sure that someone on our site is one of those superduper computer brains that has the special software where they just plug in this whole document and it shoots out a complete analyses showing where, when and who? Wish they would hurry up and log on and get this done real quick.
MrsBuckWeaver
09-29-2008, 05:01 PM
Sorry if this has been answered already, but has anyone identified Cameron's number and any calls between him & Casey? (one of Tony's roommates).
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