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Georgia PI
10-18-2008, 05:14 PM
Ping Map for June 30, 2008 - Discuss that day only


I have requested this thread because the information of that day's event's are getting scattered throuout the pings thread and is making it difficult to keep up with the informaion

Warning - Please discuss that days events only here.


Ping Map for June 30, 2008

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103915041605280294744.0004598b4cfeb420eeeb9&ll=28.531449,-81.318741&spn=0.269654,0.432587&t=h&z=11

Muzikman
10-18-2008, 06:45 PM
Wow, this day is REALLY interesting - she deviates a LOT from her usual patterns, probably because Tony is gone and she's at Amy's a lot? Still, those way East pings are unusual.

This day, I think, deserves a lot of discussion.


One small error correction - ping one says from July 29, should be from June 29.

Georgia PI
10-18-2008, 06:51 PM
wow, this day is really interesting - she deviates a lot from her usual patterns, probably because tony is gone and she's at amy's a lot? Still, those way east pings are unusual.

This day, i think, deserves a lot of discussion.


One small error correction - ping one says from july 29, should be from june 29.

fixed..............

Pink Panther
10-20-2008, 01:35 AM
I think that this is one of the only nights that she didn't have a place to stay. Tony had left and she hadn't mooched her way back in with AH/RM. I think that she may have had to spend the night in her car and that may be why she drove way-the-h*ll out where she was. In fact, she can't have actually slept much that night given the amount/duration of the calls.

It'll be interesting to find out who Andy F is - It seems almost as though perhaps she thought that she might be able to talk him into putting her up for a night.

dimples37398
10-20-2008, 07:32 AM
Just thought I would remind you guys who already knew, and inform the ones who didn't that June, 30th when she has all those unusual pings, the next morning July 1st, is when she called and woke jesse up and asked him to come and use his shower, because Tony was out of town and she couldnt get in his house, even though she had his car keys..... (and I know my house key is always on my car key ring...

I am very very very curious about this day, I wondered if she didn't move the body this day in tony's suv after taking him to the airport, that would explain the need for a shower and the need for her to make it a point to Tony while getting him from the airport a few days later that she washed his suv.

I haven't checked the whole ping records, I just did from the 14th of June till the 2nd of July, I am curious does anyone know if that ping is on there at any other time.

Kel

Georgia PI
10-20-2008, 09:29 AM
I think that this is one of the only nights that she didn't have a place to stay. Tony had left and she hadn't mooched her way back in with AH/RM. I think that she may have had to spend the night in her car and that may be why she drove way-the-h*ll out where she was. In fact, she can't have actually slept much that night given the amount/duration of the calls.

It'll be interesting to find out who Andy F is - It seems almost as though perhaps she thought that she might be able to talk him into putting her up for a night.

Andrew James F. Casey exchanged phone calls/texts on 6/29, 6/30, 7/1, 7/2, 7/8, 7/11 and 7/15. No clear connection yet.

TexasLil
10-20-2008, 10:27 AM
Wow, this day is REALLY interesting - she deviates a LOT from her usual patterns, probably because Tony is gone and she's at Amy's a lot? Still, those way East pings are unusual.

This day, I think, deserves a lot of discussion.


One small error correction - ping one says from July 29, should be from June 29.

I've always thought those pings out East near Tony R.'s home were suspicious. She is actually in that area on a couple of different days. In Tony's "come clean" statement he indicated the relationship was over, no sex happening. Either he's still lying (which I've always suspected because of lying initially about knowing her)... or Casey is in that area for a different reason. I do believe she could have dumped the body in haste before the car was towed and later moved it after getting TonE's vehicle. IMO

TexasLil
10-21-2008, 11:34 AM
Just thought I would remind you guys who already knew, and inform the ones who didn't that June, 30th when she has all those unusual pings, the next morning July 1st, is when she called and woke jesse up and asked him to come and use his shower, because Tony was out of town and she couldnt get in his house, even though she had his car keys..... (and I know my house key is always on my car key ring...

I am very very very curious about this day, I wondered if she didn't move the body this day in tony's suv after taking him to the airport, that would explain the need for a shower and the need for her to make it a point to Tony while getting him from the airport a few days later that she washed his suv.

I haven't checked the whole ping records, I just did from the 14th of June till the 2nd of July, I am curious does anyone know if that ping is on there at any other time.

Kel


Would it be possible to isolate ping 38 and 39 and draw a three mile radius circle around both. She spends a great deal of time between these two pings and it would be very interesting to see where the three mile radius circles overlap. Perhaps she was recovering the body this night from the original dump location thinking she had to get it moved somewere very remote which brings us to the pings early morning of 7/1 way down south near Wedgefield.

Georgia PI
10-21-2008, 12:39 PM
Ping 38 & 30, 1 Mile Radius from center


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=561&pictureid=4482

Georgia PI
10-21-2008, 12:40 PM
Ping 38 & 39, 2 Mile radius from center


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=561&pictureid=4483

Georgia PI
10-21-2008, 12:55 PM
Ping 38 & 39, 3 Mile Radius from center


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=561&pictureid=4484

TexasLil
10-21-2008, 01:08 PM
Ping 38 & 39, 2 Mile radius from center


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=561&pictureid=4483

Georgia PI,

Do you have this one saved? Can you provide a link to it. I'd like to view the interactive version and zoom in on that 2 mile radius.

TIA

Georgia PI
10-21-2008, 01:28 PM
Georgia PI,

Do you have this one saved? Can you provide a link to it. I'd like to view the interactive version and zoom in on that 2 mile radius.

TIA

I have Pings 38 & 39 isolated, but the circles are overlays and will not be on the map.

Here's the Link

http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie=UTF8&msa=0&msid=103915041605280294744.000459c5b3c0e47946c03&ll=28.579999,-81.210766&spn=0.067383,0.107803&t=h&z=13

UCFAlumni2002
10-21-2008, 03:18 PM
Just looking at this, and thinking out loud... periods of time without activity on her cell on June 30th:

9:44am- 11:12am- in between pings 5-6

2:51pm- 4:37pm- in between pings 11-12

Just interesting for someone who is on the phone pretty much consistantly throughout theday

Pink Panther
10-21-2008, 03:28 PM
Just looking at this, and thinking out loud... periods of time without activity on her cell on June 30th:

9:44am- 11:12am- in between pings 5-6

2:51pm- 4:37pm- in between pings 11-12

Just interesting for someone who is on the phone pretty much consistantly throughout theday

According to AH, KC shows up at her door at 9:45 am on June 30th. I think that she hangs out there for a while. This is also consistent with the ping locations.

June 30 Casey was with Amy from 9:45Am until Amy went to work either 5:00PM or 6:00PM [232 N Glenwood Ave Orlando, FL 32803]
Page 1045 Lines 5-10 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008
http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/ah092308.pdf

Pink Panther
10-21-2008, 04:08 PM
Adding to what I've posted above...Pings would indicate that she is in AH/RM neighborhood from about 9:45 - 4:51. She then drives up quickly, past the Amscott and up to near AL's house. I wonder if this is when she maybe realized that the car was no longer there! She stays up near AL's area for a little while (until 5:28) and then heads back to AH/RM neighborhood until 6:45. Interesting.

Remember the car was towed on the 30th. She drove Tony and his friend to the airport in the morning and then went to AH's house. Only after leaving AH's does she drive by the Amscott.

Her movements on this day also make me think about a few other things too. Why did she go back toward AH//RM's neighborhood if she knew that AH had left for work??? I've had suspicions that KC had a few extra keys made here and there. I wonder if she didn't let herself back into their place that day???

Hmmm...Lots to think about.

Can someone post the text messages for this day on here please! : )

Georgia PI
10-21-2008, 04:34 PM
From the Calendar



June 10-30 Amy did not see Casey only heard from her with phone and text
Page 1041 Lines 14-16 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008


June 30 Amy receives a phone call at 9:45Am and Casey is at her apartment door. [232 N Glenwood Ave Orlando, FL 32803]
Page 1043 Lines 18-21 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008
http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/ah092308.pdf


June 30 Tony L. had a 10:00AM or 11:00AM flight. Casey took him to the airport [unknown which one airport]
Page 1016 Line 19-21 & Page 1017 Lines 3-5 Tony L Interview with LE on 7/22/2008
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf


June 30

JC Penny @ 6:10 pm cc $73.40
Target @ 8:56 pm cash $7.49

http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/la092308.pdf


KC takes TL and Cameron to the airport, using TL's jeep. TL interview, pg. 25 line 19


June 30 Casey was with Amy from 9:45Am until Amy went to work either 5:00PM or 6:00PM [232 N Glenwood Ave Orlando, FL 32803]
Page 1045 Lines 5-10 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008
http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/ah092308.pdf


KC and AH Text Messages 6/30/08
AH KC 06/30 9:22 AM What time do you work today?


June 28-30 Ricardo did not have contact with Casey that he remembers.
Page 1297 Lines 1-4
http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/rm092308.pdf


June 30 Amy went with Casey in Tony L.’s jeep to Target to buy a gas can between 11:00AM & 1:00PM [Target 718 Maguire Blvd Orlando, FL 32803]
Page 1044 Line 15-20 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008
http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/ah092308.pdf


Amy and Casey buy a gas can at Target between 11:00-1:00

Interview with A.H. pg 19, lines 10-23


Casey shows up at Amy's door at 9:45 am (AH interview, pg 18, lines 18-21)


(Cell activity suggests that KC did not spend the night at AH's apt. See July 1st activity.)

12:54 to 12:56 am - cell towers ping near AL's apt until . . .
9:17 am - cell towers ping near RM/AH's apt until . . .
4:51 pm - cell towers ping near old Cheney Highway until . . .
4:56 pm - cell towers ping near AL's apt until . . .
5:28 pm - cell towers ping near RM/AH's apt until . . .
7:21 pm - cell towers ping near Fusion and multiple locations near there until very early in the morning 7/1/2008

*All distance calculated by Lat/Long.
*Address converted from Lat/Long at Steve Morse's
website http://www.stevemorse.org/jcal/latlon.php


Ricardo said Casey must have spent the night, because she was there the morning of 7/1 when he got up. (RM interview, p. 19, lines 18-24). Said that needed to be confirmed with Amy; see Amy's comment for 6/30.


June 30 Casey was with Amy from 9:45Am until Amy went to work either 5:00PM or 6:00PM [232 N Glenwood Ave Orlando, FL 32803]
Page 1045 Lines 5-10 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008


June 30-July 5 Amy said Casey was driving Tony’s jeep
Page 1044 Lines 24-25 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008


June 30 Amy receives a phone call at 9:45Am and Casey is at her apartment door. [232 N Glenwood Ave Orlando, FL 32803]
Page 1043 Lines 18-21 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008


June 30-July 5 Amy said Casey was driving Tony’s jeep
Page 1044 Lines 24-25 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008


June 10-30 Amy did not see Casey only heard from her with phone and text
Page 1041 Lines 14-16 Amy H. Interview with LE on 7/23/2008
http://flawebhosting.net/docs092308/ah092308.pdf


Casey's white Pontiac towed from Amscot

Gary Ridgeway interview.
pg. 2, line 7
pg. 5, line 19


June 30-July 5th Tony L. was in NY. Flight departed mid-morning on the June 30th and arrived on July 5th before it was dark no time given
Page 1016- 1017 Tony L Interview with LE on 7/22/2008
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf


Cindy takes the entire week off work.


Casey spends this time sleeping at Amy's, without Caylee. (AH interview, pg. 20, lines 13-22). She mentions this date corrects the date she gave in her first affidavit. *Note* Times are mine.

piratemom
11-12-2008, 03:44 AM
Is this the day of the shower at JG?

What date did TL pick KC UP from the amscott that she had the groceries?

KellioPSL
11-20-2008, 08:48 PM
pings 2 and 3, 9:17am and 9:38, located directed in the middle of these two pings is Bent Pine Dr., address listed on witness list for Kio.

JWG
12-03-2008, 10:17 PM
Midnight to 9:00 AM (?)


At AL. Brief text exchange with Andy F. (arranging meeting?) just after midnight, then sleep.

8:20 to 8:30 AM


Leave for OIA. Approximate 30 minute drive. AL flight to NY departs 10AM or 11AM (page 1016) - probably around 10:15 to 10:30 AM based on last text w/ AL

9:00 to 9:10 AM


At airport for drop-off

9:10 to 9:40 AM


Drive north up Semoran to Amy's - 30 minutes or so depending on traffic and if she avoided toll road. Arrive Amy's at 9:40 AM

9:40 AM to 4:30 PM


KC with Amy from time she arrives at Ric's until Amy goes to work that night (page 1043) - starts 5 or 6 PM (page 1045)
Between 11 and 1 bought a gas can w/ Amy, KC drove Jeep (page 1044). Trip likely occurred around 11:30 based on change in cell ping pattern. Note that a trip to target will ping same towers as Ric / Amy's.
It is possible they got gas during trip to Target, but this is not mentioned in Amy interview.

4:30 PM (approx)


Amy leaves for work

4:40 to 4:55 PM


KC drives to Amscot. May have left a few minutes earlier to fill gas cans if not done already.

4:55 PM


Arrives at Amscot, notices car is not there, keeps heading north on Goldenrod (this is lone ping to CID=2)
KC must be wondering what has happened to the car, but without missing a beat she pings Matt C. and invites him to Fusian. Possibly heading north past Crane's Landing made her think of him. First time all day she contacted him.

4:55 to 5:15 PM


Drives to JC Penney at Fashion Square, taking N. Goldenrod to University to S. Semoran to E. Colonial.

5:15 to 6:15 PM


At JC Penney. 6:10 PM $73.40 charge (page 1432). Purchase memento?

6:15 to 6:20 PM


Travel to Ric / Amy's

6:20 to 7:00 PM


Shower and get ready for a night at Fusian

7:00 to 7:15 PM


Travel to location E or SE of Blanchard Park for dinner. Possible destinations include a couple of Subways or Ale House at Waterford Lakes. Definitely in this area at this time, NOT at Blanchard Park. Likely location is Ale House.

7:15 to 8:00 PM


Eat dinner - Ale House ?

8:00 to 8:10 PM


Travel to Caylee site.

8:10 to 8:25 PM


Visit Caylee site. Leave memento purchased at JC Penney? Hardly seems focused on the purpose, as she texts repeatedly with Chris S. and then Clint H. during this time.

8:25 PM to 8:45 PM


Travel from Caylee site to Target at Waterford Lakes - a round-about route.
North to University Blvd. - several roads possible.
East on University to N. Alafaya Trail - she is going by Jesse G.'s - a familiar and comforting person
South on N. Alafaya Trail
Park at Target
This is an odd route, but cell pings from tower near JG clearly show she drove clockwise around the tower!

8:45 to 9:00 PM


Shop at Target
At Target. 8:56 PM $7.49 cash (page 1432). Purchase ?

9:00 to 9:05 PM


Travel to Fusian

9:05 to Midnight


At Fusian
Frequent texts with Andy F., who lives in Bithlo area.

JWG
04-08-2009, 12:50 PM
FWIW, Andy F. lives or lived with his parents in Avalon Park out in the Bithlo area. Avalon Park is where KC said Jeff H. lived for a while, and it is where KC would supposedly drop Caylee off when ZFG first started watching Caylee - from April to late 2006.

BondJamesBond
03-16-2010, 08:56 AM
Doesn't appear to be an opportunity for Casey to have had a manicure before showing up @ Amy's ~9:45AM. Have to back up to 6/29 to follow that further. Per Amy's statement, when Casey showed up that day her nails were done.

JWG
03-16-2010, 09:14 AM
Doesn't appear to be an opportunity for Casey to have had a manicure before showing up @ Amy's ~9:45AM. Have to back up to 6/29 to follow that further. Per Amy's statement, when Casey showed up that day her nails were done.

According to a Maura on another site, one of the surveillance videos show Amy and Casey together at the JCP Fashion Square Mall just after 4PM on the 1st, and it does not appear to be to get nails done either. FWIW.