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10-21-2008, 11:49 PM
Sorry about the confusing titles of the forums. I will tweak it all and get it right.

This area will be about the fun and unique things going on at Websleuths.

Dear Websleuths Members,
TLC is producing a new true crime series.
We are looking for people who went above and beyond the call of duty to help the police solve a loved one’s case.
We are specifically looking for cases that were eventually solved due to the persistence and investigative work of friends or family members of the victims.
We are trying to highlight the importance of taking an active role in and investigation and let people know, they can make a difference.

Here is the info I promised:
Production Company: True Entertainment

The show will be airing on TLC.
TLC Site: http://tlc.discovery.com/

Please let me know if you need any additional info or have any additional

Thanks Again!

Danielle Wilkinson
Story Producer

This is going to be different than any other type of true crime show. Ms. Wilkinson and I had a very long talk. She is going to become a member of Websleuths and interact with the members about their stories. She LOVES you all at WS. She chose Websleuths because she said Websleuths isn't like all the other forums with the nasty and mean comments. Words to that effect.

Danielle Wilkinson will be here on Thursday 12 noon on Websleuths to answer your questions. I am not going to do a chat because I want all the back and forth to be on the forum.

Please welcome Ms. Wilkinson and be thinking about cases that she might like.

Also, put this in your day planner, Thursday Oct. 23rd. 12 Noon MOUNTAIN time. 2:00 Eastern she will be at this forum to "talk" with us.

PS. Websleuths is receiving NO compensation for helping out. The only thing we will receive is a shout out in the show if she uses one of our stories.

10-22-2008, 12:35 AM
Excellent! What a testament... speaks volumes about WS's reputation.

10-22-2008, 12:36 AM
Awsome! I Believe WS has lots to offer, Its THEE best !!!!!!!!


10-22-2008, 12:40 AM
That is soo cool. I'm sure there are a lot of stories here that she can do.

10-22-2008, 08:15 AM
:clap: Absolutely wonderful news! Have you noticed Tricia...that what you have sown is coming back at you tenfold lately? All the hard work, time and effort that you, the mods and the inquisitiveness and persistance of the members of WS is paying off! Did you think that when you started this that it would reach so many? Hopefully there will be many stories that can be brought to others attention and people will learn that it takes an involved effort of many to solve some of these atrocities done to innocent victims!

10-22-2008, 08:23 AM
Will they also do stories on unsolved crimes and missing persons? I immediately think of Suzanne4444 (I think that is her name) who is looking for her sister who disappeared from Daytona FL many years ago. I have seen her on so many forums, searching and searching. She has been doing this forever and never gives up. I think we should all get together and see if TLC might contact and help her.

10-22-2008, 09:10 AM
That is very good news! Welcome to Ms. Wilkinson!!!!!

10-22-2008, 10:42 AM
This is wonderful news! So many of you here are great sleuthers and work so hard to get to the answers. The administration here is great! Keep up the good work and a warm welcome to Ms. Wilkinson! :blowkiss:

10-22-2008, 01:00 PM
This is fantastic - a perfect fit for WS, considering our belief that everyone can make a real difference! Focusing on everyday people rising to the occasion and helping bring about justice is a concept I've not seen before in all the crime shows I've viewed. Love it!

My husband used to work for one of our local PDs and is still very friendly with everyone, including several detectives. I emailed the info to him and asked him to see if any of the guys are interested in submitting a story. Hopefully, they'll come through for us. Will let you know! :)

10-22-2008, 01:04 PM
What a wonderful testament to the power of the people. It has always been such a burden for the families of victims and missing persons who literally have to work their own cases because LE is overburdened or just won't.

It's great to see that those family members and friends will have some recognition for what they have been through! Who knows it could be a step forward towards more victim's rights in the court system!

10-22-2008, 03:08 PM
This is great news that Websleuths is getting additional exposure. Now if I could just find my missing brother, I could contribute.


10-22-2008, 07:49 PM
:clap: Absolutely wonderful news! Have you noticed Tricia...that what you have sown is coming back at you tenfold lately? All the hard work, time and effort that you, the mods and the inquisitiveness and persistance of the members of WS is paying off! Did you think that when you started this that it would reach so many? Hopefully there will be many stories that can be brought to others attention and people will learn that it takes an involved effort of many to solve some of these atrocities done to innocent victims!

Ditto this!

Congrats, you deserve it, and there are some fine, fine members here!

10-22-2008, 07:49 PM
What a wonderful testament to the power of the people. It has always been such a burden for the families of victims and missing persons who literally have to work their own cases because LE is overburdened or just won't.

It's great to see that those family members and friends will have some recognition for what they have been through! Who knows it could be a step forward towards more victim's rights in the court system!

You should contact about all you have done for Lily!

10-23-2008, 02:34 AM
Awesome! and welcome to Ms. Wilkinson. I too believe that this forum is very nicely run, a wide gamut of sleuthers are here from all walks of life - from professionals to stay at home people, all serious people wanting to help. This is a great forum. Good job everyone!

10-23-2008, 03:17 AM
:woohoo: wow this is great news!

Congrats to you all who have worked so hard to have this forum a place to share thoughts, ideas, facts and help to those who need it! :clap:

10-23-2008, 09:48 AM
Maybe they will do a show on Tim at TES!

10-23-2008, 05:36 PM
Will they also do stories on unsolved crimes and missing persons?
Agreed. While I'm delighted by the news TLC is going back to its roots with a True Crime series, do we really need another Dateline/48 Hours show about husbands-killing-wives/wives-killing-husbands over infidelity/jealousy/money?
I would like to see more True Crime programs tackle unsolved crimes and missing persons, or solved crimes committed by strangers. These cookie-cutter domestic cases have been wearing on me for a while, and I'm a huge True Crime connoisseur.

10-23-2008, 05:43 PM
can I get a drum roll http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/gelocomputers/Emoticons/drummer_smilie.gif....ta da! Super duper job! I http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h34/losercomplex/heart.jpg WS!

10-24-2008, 06:34 PM
excellent news !!

didn't a civilian lady find the porter children, after starting her own search patterns in the area after reading about where LE had been looking for them.....?

also, my own story, ( i didn't solve a case) during the time of hunting a suspect, i *think* it was the brooke carol wilberger case, later they announced that the suspect had been using a green minivan, with an east coast plate...i SAW that green minivan in phoenix, one of the cities they said they were looking for him in, and I even had the thought about the victim as i saw it, but unfortunately i didn't put together that they were looking for that van in phx until after they had captured the guy in new mexico.

i remember that day like it was yesterday.


10-24-2008, 06:50 PM
OMG. I just thought of this one. It happened over 10 years ago I think.

A little boy got lost in abandoned mines around eastern Utah. Law Enforcement searched and searched.I think he was 6. After 5 days or so they gave up. A man who use to work in these mines stepped forward and asked for one more day and to let him look. They did and they found the boy alive. It was a miracle. They literally had the components to shut the mine door and fill up the shaft. He would have died a horrible death had not this stranger came forward and worked his but off.

Now, this is not a crime story but it is a rescue story with a happy ending.

Don't know if this fits or not.

10-24-2008, 08:53 PM
Tricia, I am sure that you mentioned this to her but I will bring it up in case you have forgotten. How about the Amber Harris story? Isn't she the one that LE wanted to write off as a runaway?

10-24-2008, 10:01 PM
What a awesome thing to happen to WS Tricia.....
You have never given up & this is awesome!!!
I'm so proud of you & all the mods...I feel honored to be a part of WS. :blowkiss: Cheko1

12-22-2008, 10:19 AM
The Doe Network:
Case File 551UMOR

Victim's Compass
Unidentified White Male

The victim was discovered on August 24, 2002 in Eastern Linn County, Oregon
Estimated Date of Death: Spring, 2002
Partially Skeletonized
natural causes of death, exposure

Vital Statistics

Estimated age: 50 - 60's years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'5" - 5'7"; 175 lbs
Distinguishing Characteristics: Red hair, some facial hair. Mild scoliosis.
Dentals: Available. Extensive fairly high-quality dental work. Three gold crowns.
Clothing: Levi 501 jeans size 36/30, dress belt, white Jockey underwear, 1 wool sock, size 7 Vasque hiking boots, Seiko Watch, over $6000.00 in cash and misc hiking/camping gear (Lowe Alpine Systems brand backpack)
Fingerprints: Not available
DNA: Available

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Victim's Belongings

Case History
The victim was located by a man doing survey work for the U.S. Forest Service at a campsite located off the Pacific Crest Trail, five miles south of Big Lake in Mt. Washington Wilderness, eastern Linn County, Oregon.
No identification was found, but investigators did find six-thousand dollars in cash near the body. Investigators also found various items near the body, including down coat, rain poncho, wool gloves, backpack and several aluminum fuel bottles. The man had set up a campsite consisting of a blue tent without a floor, sleeping bag and pad. Food that would not require cooking were also found. Investigators found no stove, matches or lighters.
He might not have had a great deal of experience in wilderness travel, though he did have adequate supplies for several days of inclement weather.
The campsite was not near any water source. Two small ponds are located about a mile away, identified on wilderness maps as the Washington Ponds. No climbing equipment was found in the area, and no knives or firearms were found near the body.
The Doe Network:
Case File 789UMCO

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Unidentified White Male

The victim was discovered on September 8, 2004 in the Flat Tops, White River National Forest, Garfield County, Colorado
Estimated Date of Death: No longer than 5 years prior to discovery
Skeletal remains

Vital Statistics

Estimated age: Late 40s to late 50s, but could have been anywhere from 35 to 65.
Approximate Height : 6'0"
Distinguishing Characteristics: Forensic examiners say he suffered from severe degeneration in his back and neck and was most likely suffering severe back pain.
Dentals: Available. The man had extensive dental work, including gold work, crowns, bridges and fillings in almost all his teeth, suggesting the man had money.
Clothing: A pair of size 9M Timberland brown-and-black hiking boots.
Possessions: Located was fragments of sleeping cushion, fragments of blue backpack, a yellow-green plastic poncho, parts of a brown sleeping bag, blue hairbrush, two plastic zipper bags, Six $100 bills, one $10 bill, one $5 bill, five $1 bills , green Eureka dome tent, blue-and-black Jansport backpack, green camping pillow, black belt with clinging long underwear fragments, Slumberjack sleeping bag, empty Tylenol bottle, eight multicolored butane lighters, one magnifying glass, one compass, fingernail clippers, bell, spoon, pepper spray, 20 packages of Camel unfiltered cigarettes, Butane stove with two fuel cans, sweetwater water-filtration kit, pocket-sized Battleship game, round red-and-blue canteen, two green plastic military-style canteens, pair of sunglasses, pair of reading glasses, silver Sharper Image binoculars, "4 in 1" Radio Shack game, two drinking cups, aluminum cooking pot, pair of tweezers, package of foam earplugs, package of razor blades, tent repair kit, pair of blue wool socks with duct tape around the toes, roll of duct tape, two National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops.
Other: A pocket-sized, spiral notebook with a green cover with hand-drawn artwork depicting a heart and some figures inside the heart, including what appears to be a cat.
The first page, addressed to "Lib," begins, "I should wait in case my situation here doesn't improve. This may be the end of my journey."
"Would like for you to claim the body . . . services or memoreal. Cremation."
The CBI found the next section illegible, although individual words such as "I" and "thought" and "favor" or "flavor" could be made out.
On another page, more text could be discerned, but the CBI analysts said the writer's point is not clear. That sections reads, "Third choice take them up in a glider (I promise not to get sick on you," before becoming illegible. Some common words - "this," "you" and "not" - are identifiable.
On yet another page, the writing apparently goes, "ar on the . . . would you call her...d have it sent...you because I . . . want it to . . . where." Analysts also interpreted a recovered fragment to read, "be . . . er . . . my . . . s are going."

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Case History
The victim was located September 8, 2004, by bow hunters in a remote area north of Glenwood Springs. The site is in the drainage of No Name Creek at about 9,700 feet elevation, about 6 miles as the crow flies from Glenwood Springs, but 12 miles by the Transfer Trail out of town.
The skeleton revealed no cause of death and the sheriff's office has been assuming it probably was natural.
The man was found in a tent at a campsite in a wooded, remote location. His trousers had rotted away, but the date of currency found at his campsite indicates he apparently had been there no longer than five years.
The letter leaves open the possibility the man was suicidal, although there is no reason to believe he killed himself. Perhaps he was terminally ill and chose to take his life. The man also could have succumbed to unexpected illness or injury while on an outing in the Flat Tops.
Much about the case is conjecture, including a theory that the man entered the Flat Tops Wilderness at a trailhead on the north and hiked four or five days across elevations of 11,000 feet before setting up his tent on a southern drainage at about 9,700 feet. That theory is supported by two moisture-proof National Geographic trail maps of the Flat Tops with a route drawn across them to the area where the remains were discovered. But it's possible the man picked up the maps someone else had marked and left behind.

If you have any information about this case please contact:
Garfield County sheriffs Office
970-945-1377, Ext. 1025
Crime Tips
970-384- 3625
You may remain anonymous when submitting information. Agency
thank you it would be a wish come true to see faces put to these men also to find the family of SHARON MARSHALL

04-17-2009, 01:52 PM
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