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outofthedark
11-17-2008, 11:43 PM
The so-called "Alphabet murders" (also known as the "double initial murders") took place in the early 1970s in the Rochester (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochester,_New_York), New York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia area; three young girls were attacked sexually and strangled. The case got its name from the fact that each of the three girls' first and last names started with the same letters (Carmen Colon, Wanda Walkowicz, and Michelle Maenza) and that the bodies were found in towns that started with the same letter as the girls' names (Colon in Churchville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchville,_New_York), Walkowicz in Webster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webster_(town),_New_York) and Maenza in Macedon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedon_(town),_New_York)).



Carmen Colon, 11, disappeared November 16, 1971. She was found two days later in Churchville, 12 miles from where she was last seen.
Wanda Walkowicz, 11, disappeared April 2, 1973. She was found the next day at a rest area off State Route 104, seven miles from Rochester.
Michelle Maenza, 10, disappeared November 26, 1973. She was found two days later in Macedon, 15 miles from Rochester.
While hundreds of people were questioned, the killer was never caught. One man, considered to be a "person of interest" in the case (he committed suicide six weeks after the last of the killings) was cleared in 2007 by DNA testing.[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_murders#cite_note-0) In the case of Carmen Colon, her uncle was also considered a suspect until his suicide in 1991.[2] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_murders#cite_note-1)
Another suspect was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Bianchi, a Rochester native who later moved to Los Angeles, and with his cousin Angelo Buono, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia committed the Hillside Strangler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia murders between 1977 and 1978. Bianchi was never charged with the Alphabet murders, but many view him as one of the more viable suspects.
In 2001, the Discovery Channel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia aired a program revisiting the murders,[3] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_murders#cite_note-2) and a The Alphabet Killer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia based on the murders is scheduled for release in 2008.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_murders#cite_note-3)

Alphabet murders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mischa
11-18-2008, 07:35 AM
One thing is sure:The killer had to do some research before killing.

gaia227
11-18-2008, 05:45 PM
There was a book written by Agatha Christie called the ABC Murders and it is basically the exact scenario. People whose first and last name begin with the same initial are murdered in a place that also bears that initial. Christie's killer started with A and went in order of the alphabet.

http://www.amazon.com/ABC-Murders-Agatha-Christie/dp/042513024X

MaryLiz
11-18-2008, 06:18 PM
There was a book written by Agatha Christie called the ABC Murders and it is basically the exact scenario. People whose first and last name begin with the same initial are murdered in a place that also bears that initial. Christie's killer started with A and went in order of the alphabet.

http://www.amazon.com/ABC-Murders-Agatha-Christie/dp/042513024X


Granada Television from the UK made that into a GREAT Hercule Poirot episode....one of my favorites of all time.

outofthedark
11-19-2008, 12:53 AM
One thing is sure:The killer had to do some research before killing.

True. Otherwise else it would be nearly impossible to pull something off like this

Julessleuther
11-19-2008, 01:25 AM
I wonder why the killer did not go in alphabetical order though, and why did he stop? I grew up in the area, but was very young when this happened, and do not remember much. I will say that all the locations where the bodies were dumped were more rural areas, outside the city of Rochester.

Bargle
11-19-2008, 05:07 PM
5188.8 (http://forums.delphiforums.com/coldcases/messages?msg=5188.8) in reply to 5188.1 (http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=coldcases&msg=5188.1&maxT=11#a1)
I'm writing this from memory, so I may not be remembering everything correctly.
On one of the True Crime shows, they did an episode on this series of murders. A group of investigators looked over the evidence. They felt that one murder was probably committed by a male relative of the girl. One of her male relatives fell under police scrutiny and committed suicide shortly before he was to be questioned in the case.
The other 2 murders were related, they thought. IIRC, both girls had been taken for a meal or a treat at a fast food outlet shortly before they were killed. The initials aspect was just a coincidence, they thought.
Bianchi was ruled out as a good suspect for some reason.
That's all I remember about the cases themselves, though in a sad coincidence, one of the meetings of the investigators took place on Sept. 11, 2001.

Delawaresleuth
07-07-2010, 05:05 PM
A couple of things that I picked up on from various websites on these murders:
1)The letters of the alphabet were 3, 13 and 23 (the 3 numbers may have been significant and the reason why there were only 3.
2)More than likely the person or persons moved. (so it would be great if anyone has a copy of the newspaper (to scan) or the website with the composite drawing)of the suspect.
3)Could this (same type of incident) have occured in Canada as well, since Webster is so close to the Canada line. And perhaps the U.S. and Canada did not communicate.

Soulmagent
07-12-2010, 10:23 AM
I really think are other cases that do not fall into the same pattern with the letter connection that this person is responsible for committing. I think this murderer completely changed his MO or modified it so it didnt draw so much attention. I wondered if these girls attended a camp or church or where part of a 4 H group. There was some list this guy was reading names from that included their addresses. A social sevice worker in a tri county area working with the state school dept? I have never seen anything as far as a profile done for this guy but I often wondered if they thought he had killed or commited other crimes like rape and assault before.

Clinton
08-12-2010, 08:05 AM
A composite sketch was made of the suspect and published. A description of his car was also published. If the killer was to follow the pattern CC, MM, WW, then double G's (GG) would be next. A short time after the "triple digit" murders a local man who was a smitten image of the published composite, and had a car that matched the description of the triple digit suspect and lived in the area was arrested for abducting and attempted rape, of 2 nine year old girls in a Gates park. The news mentioned that he would be questioned "about other local sexual attacks on girls, but police were not commenting". This WOULD perhaps in his mind qualify as a 2G or double G as it would be TWO GIRLS or GG and at a Gates park. Thus this could qualify as a tripple G. He was convicted. Years later he was released and AGAIN he commited another sexual crime and was sent back to prison. He was released on May 27, 2010.
I have always felt that he commited the tripple digit murders based upon his "lifestyle", but mostly because of his exact likeness to the composite sketech and car he had at the time (brown 4 door sedan). My guess is that police never had enough evidence to link him to those crimes.

Clinton
08-12-2010, 08:14 AM
Here is a copy and paste of part of the news story about the individual I mention in my above comments.


In August 1974, Theodore F. Given abducted two 9-year-old girls in a Gates park and attempted to rape one of them.

He eventually pleaded guilty and was sent to prison for 7 ½ to 15 years. But in October 1986 — 1 ½ years after he was released from prison — he broke into a house in Parma and raped an 11-year-old girl.

He pleaded guilty again and was sent back to prison for 12 ½ to 25 years.

Given, 63, will be released May 27 after serving the maximum time allowed under his sentence. In a court proceeding last week, he was found to be a high-risk sex offender.

Soulmagent
08-12-2010, 08:33 AM
This should help locating T.G on a sex offender list.

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ny-supreme-court/1071161.html

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:pjqcdGMTUkIJ:rocnow.com/article/local-news/20105160348+Theodore+F.+Given+sex+offender%5C&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
ETA.
This is one scary guy. Going to make my kid change her name to Kevin on facebook. It wont solve all my problems but I will feel better for 30 seconds.

cherifarnsworth
08-15-2010, 10:15 AM
I recently wrote a book, "Alphabet Killer: The True Story of the Double Initial Murders," which comes out next week. I researched all of the earliest news articles available to create a timeline of events and remind the public of points long forgotten or tainted by time. I also spoke to the lead investigator on the case (who just retired this past May). It's still an open, active case, and he told me that "to find the Double Initial killer or killers would be the Holy Grail of police work." I've posted more information on my website, www.thealphabetkiller.com, including portions of the final manuscript that were cut from the book. While researching the case, and obsessing over it even in my sleep, I came up with my own theories regarding whom might be involved or people that should be questioned again, if possible; but I was only able to carefully hint at those ideas without coming right out and saying it, for obvious legal reasons, in my book. Keep up the great (and important) work, fellow Web Sleuths!

:+:MrTT:+:
08-15-2010, 11:11 AM
I recently wrote a book, "Alphabet Killer: The True Story of the Double Initial Murders (http://www.amazon.com/Alphabet-Killer-Double-Initial-Murders/dp/081170632X/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1281880911&sr=8-3)," which comes out next week. I researched all of the earliest news articles available to create a timeline of events and remind the public of points long forgotten or tainted by time. I also spoke to the lead investigator on the case (who just retired this past May). It's still an open, active case, and he told me that "to find the Double Initial killer or killers would be the Holy Grail of police work." I've posted more information on my website, www.thealphabetkiller.com (http://www.thealphabetkiller.com), including portions of the final manuscript that were cut from the book. While researching the case, and obsessing over it even in my sleep, I came up with my own theories regarding whom might be involved or people that should be questioned again, if possible; but I was only able to carefully hint at those ideas without coming right out and saying it, for obvious legal reasons, in my book. Keep up the great (and important) work, fellow Web Sleuths!


http://thealphabetkiller.com/
http://doubleinitialmurders.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/wanda1.jpg?w=106&h=150http://doubleinitialmurders.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/carmen.jpg?w=97&h=150http://doubleinitialmurders.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/michelle.jpg?w=111&h=150
(Left to Right)
Wanda Walkowicz, age 11. Body found in Webster.
Carmen Colon, age 10. Body found on the Chili-Riga border.
Michelle Maenza, age 11. Found in the town of Macedon.


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:+:MrTT:+:
08-15-2010, 07:06 PM
after the second murder, if LE would have connected the dots and seen the similarities in the letters, they may have very well, prevented the third murder.
the killer may-have seen the connection in the press after the first one, and then did some research to find the next two victims. some kind of registry, city public registry to where the killer could have found the names of the next two victims.

And can you tell us, if when the second and third body was found, was there a calling card left behind, calling card of the alphabet. the kind you teach to young children, and did he leave more then one card on the second or third victim, to attach the first to himself as being the perpetrator.

Kat
08-15-2010, 10:31 PM
Thank you Cherie! I can't wait to read it :)

Soulmagent
08-16-2010, 01:44 AM
Thank you Cherie! I can't wait to read it :)

Ha Ha Kat are you stalking me ?? :dance:

I cant wait either. My interent has been all flaky so that will help with the down times.

Debbie Miller
08-16-2010, 09:41 PM
Reading this, I see that the killer didn't go in the sequence of the alphbet according to the dates of crime. C - W - M. Also 2 of them happened in the same month and two years and ten days apart.

Could it have significance?

After reading a few of the articles on this I see a discrepancy with the years of the last 2 murders. One stated the last two as 73' and another article stated 72' and 73'.

If the last 2 happened in 73' that is one heck of a "cooling off" period for a killer to take from the first murder. Was he locked up on other crimes or did he move away and then come back. If he moved to another state or across the state, did he committ other murders and it was never tied as a relation to these. Alot of agencies don't communicate now, so I don't expect they did back then.

cherifarnsworth
08-17-2010, 07:13 PM
One of the fascinating, less mentioned, things I found while researching this book was that the letters of the victims' initials (and the towns where their bodies were found) corresponded to the 3rd, 13th, and 23rd letters of the alphabet....integers of tens on the 3's. Also, Carmen was last seen running near Exit 3 toward Churchville, and Michelle went to Rochester city school no. 33. I list other '3' coincidences in the book and on my website (www.thealphabetkiller.com). In answer to the question of whether a 'calling card' was left at the sites of the 2nd and 3rd victim....no, at least not from what I gathered in my discussions with the lead investigator on the case (who retired in May). In fact, he said many of them (the authorities/investigators) believe that Carmen's was an isolated incident perpetrated by a relative; while the other two were [U]possibly[U] the work of the same individual. I have my own suspicions and tried to make subtle suggestions to who I thought should be further investigated in my book, but you have to be really, really careful as an author with these sort of things (legally). So I never came right out and said who I thought was responsible for any of them. (But the hints are in there, or I wouldn't have dropped names.) I hope that some of the 'new generation' of investigators will read over the book, and get some fresh insight on long-forgotten info that is buried in their stacks of folders, if it's still even in there at all.

cherifarnsworth
08-17-2010, 07:15 PM
Debbie, Carmen was abducted in November 1971, Wanda in April 1973, and Michelle in November 1973.

Debbie Miller
08-17-2010, 07:40 PM
Debbie, Carmen was abducted in November 1971, Wanda in April 1973, and Michelle in November 1973.

What I was trying to say is time between the first murder (if by the same person) and the 2nd one. It is a long time between the two if related.

Steely Dan
08-17-2010, 07:53 PM
Here is a copy and paste of part of the news story about the individual I mention in my above comments.


In August 1974, Theodore F. Given abducted two 9-year-old girls in a Gates park and attempted to rape one of them.

He eventually pleaded guilty and was sent to prison for 7 ½ to 15 years. But in October 1986 — 1 ½ years after he was released from prison — he broke into a house in Parma and raped an 11-year-old girl.

He pleaded guilty again and was sent back to prison for 12 ½ to 25 years.

Given, 63, will be released May 27 after serving the maximum time allowed under his sentence. In a court proceeding last week, he was found to be a high-risk sex offender.

Wow! I live in this area and have been very interested in these murders. I hadn't heard about this dude. He certainly sounds like someone who should be looked at closer, JMO.

BTW, there is no reason this guy should be out of jail.

Debbie Miller
08-17-2010, 08:05 PM
In fact, he said many of them (the authorities/investigators) believe that Carmen's was an isolated incident perpetrated by a relative; while the other two were [u]possibly[u] the work of the same individual.

One article mentions that white cat hair was found on the victims and doesn't specify Carmen to not be included. So how can they think it was isolated?

Hopefully they still have evidence (samples of semen, the cat hair) so they can start from scratch. Forensic technology has come to great new levels since this time and we can only hope the killer will be brought to justice.

Cheri, I will have to read your book, it sounds like a good read.

cherifarnsworth
08-18-2010, 05:41 AM
The cat hair found on Carmen was "light-colored," while the cat hair found on Wanda and Michelle was definitely "white-colored." Hopefully, they've submitted the cat hair from all three victims, as well as the cat hair found in one suspect's vehicle (the fireman) for DNA comparison studies. If they were to find that the cat hair on at least the 2nd and 3rd victims was identical, it would settle the question of whether Michelle and Wanda had the same killer. Semen gathered at Wanda's crime sight is the only semen that remains to be dna tested--the semen from the other two crime sights is no longer available (read, it got discarded or misplaced). But they DO have at least palm prints still left from Michelle's case.

gogrannypop
08-18-2010, 08:36 AM
The cat hair found on Carmen was "light-colored," while the cat hair found on Wanda and Michelle was definitely "white-colored." Hopefully, they've submitted the cat hair from all three victims, as well as the cat hair found in one suspect's vehicle (the fireman) for DNA comparison studies. If they were to find that the cat hair on at least the 2nd and 3rd victims was identical, it would settle the question of whether Michelle and Wanda had the same killer. Semen gathered at Wanda's crime sight is the only semen that remains to be dna tested--the semen from the other two crime sights is no longer available (read, it got discarded or misplaced). But they DO have at least palm prints still left from Michelle's case.

Hi, neighbor. I have read all of your Haunted New York books. I'm a big fan!

Debbie Miller
08-18-2010, 04:14 PM
The cat hair found on Carmen was "light-colored," while the cat hair found on Wanda and Michelle was definitely "white-colored." Hopefully, they've submitted the cat hair from all three victims, as well as the cat hair found in one suspect's vehicle (the fireman) for DNA comparison studies. If they were to find that the cat hair on at least the 2nd and 3rd victims was identical, it would settle the question of whether Michelle and Wanda had the same killer. Semen gathered at Wanda's crime sight is the only semen that remains to be dna tested--the semen from the other two crime sights is no longer available (read, it got discarded or misplaced). But they DO have at least palm prints still left from Michelle's case.

This is what makes it hard to know the true facts of the case, when reading these articles and being misinformed by the newspapers. Also, the way evidence disappears from many cases and leaving so many unanswered questions and unresolved.

Cheri- I am with you in agreement that the "new generation" investigators should read your words in your book- maybe something will explode to bring this to a close. It is going to take police with a passion to solve this and not just someone who views it as a "blah" job.

:+:MrTT:+:
09-11-2010, 05:58 PM
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/graphics/upperpoll/doubleinitial.jpg


http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...NEWS01/9070316 (http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20100907/NEWS01/9070316)

New book delves deeper into Rochester's unsolved Double Initial murders

from the above link.
"Though slim at 109 pages, the book provides the most comprehensive publicly available look at the evidence that could lead to resolution of the crimes."
A DNA sample is still available from one of the murders — investigators have taken samples from suspects in recent years and ruled them out — and investigators also hope a preserved palm print could lead to the killer.

SunnieRN
09-14-2010, 09:48 PM
Ok, I watched the movie. Was any of it based upon the truth? Is there a female officer, in a mental hospital, who found and was attacked and couldn't tell anyone what happened? Very strange and I am really glad I watched it during the day. How bizarre, the way the bodies/spirits gathered around her as she was strapped down. Creepy!

TechWriter797
09-14-2010, 11:10 PM
Ok, I watched the movie. Was any of it based upon the truth? Is there a female officer, in a mental hospital, who found and was attacked and couldn't tell anyone what happened? Very strange and I am really glad I watched it during the day. How bizarre, the way the bodies/spirits gathered around her as she was strapped down. Creepy!

Is the movie based on the truth? Basically, no.

I just finished reading Cheri Farnsworth's new book on the murders called "Alphabet Killer." It's accurate and the bibliography is many pages long. It's a quick and easy read that gives you the facts without sensationalizing the murders.

Rochester would love to see these murders solved!

cherifarnsworth
09-15-2010, 11:58 AM
There was no female investigator who went crazy, a priest was never considered a prime suspect (at least not to this date), and there are no known supernatural appearances of the girls to anyone. The movie was correct only in that three little girls with double initials were abducted off the streets of Rochester, raped, and strangled; and their killer or killers have eluded authorities for nearly 40 years. At least the movie generated interest in these murder cases, and hopefully once people begin talking about it again, something new will be divulged that someone was previously too afraid to come forward with. I have faith that that will happen.

cherifarnsworth
09-15-2010, 11:59 AM
Thanks, TechWriter797. :)

SunnieRN
09-15-2010, 03:16 PM
I requested your book on Kindle, but will look for it in the meantime. Thank you! Too bad there wasn't really a tie with a church or church worker that knew all three girls!

liz b.
11-06-2010, 11:35 PM
Hi Cheri,
I just finished reading your book.It's great, well written and very well sourced. A few things stood out for me :

1. The fact that the coats belonging to Carmen and Michelle were found near their bodies. Also, the fact that Wanda was originally reported to have been wearing a red and green coat.

2. Michelle was murdered the day before her birthday. Wanda was murdered the day before her sister Rita's birthday.

3. Wanda told the grocery clerk that she was "in a hurry ", and she was last glimpsed leaning against the school fence, trying to carru a grocery bag. The clerk in the pharmacy said that Carmen seemed to be " in a hurry ". I wondered if they met someone before they went into the store and pharmacy ? Did someone they knew and trusted promise them a ride home after they finished their errands ?

4. Michelle's case was different. She was on her way home from school. Why did she decide to go to the store to look for her mother's purse ? Why hadn't her mother already gone and retrieved her purse ( with,presumably, her money in it )Her purse had been left at the store for several days ? ? How was it known that Michelle was going to that store ? Is that what she told the two neighborhood girls she met along the way ? I wonder if she was going somewhere else ?

5. Michelle's Uncle Phillip seems to have changed his story over the years. First,he said he didn't see Michelle pass by, and later he said that he actually went to the Plaza, saw her and offered her a ride home. I wondered why Michelle would refuse a ride from her Uncle, yet accept a ride from someone else, even someone she knew and trusted. I noted that LE said that they doubted Michelle ever made it to the Plaza. Yet, her Uncle says he spoke with her there. Did he tell LE this? t's very important information...

There are a lot of coincidences in this case. I doubt that they actually all are coincidences MOO...

i.b.nora
04-12-2011, 05:15 PM
Unsolved Contra Costa murder one of four linked to serial killer jailed in Marin County (http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/nationalbreaking/ci_17826899)
By Karl Fischer and Robert Salonga
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 04/12/2011

SAN RAFAEL -- "A 33-year-old unsolved Port Costa murder is one of four cold cases that investigators have linked to a serial killer now suspected of targeting women between the 1970s and 1990s, authorities announced Tuesday.

Investigators from multiple agencies have connected the deaths of four women -- including Port Costa resident Carmen Colon, who was killed in 1978 -- to 77-year-old Joseph Naso of Reno, said Marin County District Attorney Ed Berberian in a press conference."

and

"Naso's suspected victims also include Oakland woman Roxene Roggasch, who was found dead on White Hill near Fairfax in 1977, Berberian said. The other two victims were killed in Yuba County: Pamela Parsons in 1993 and Tracy Tafoya in 1994."

MsFacetious
04-12-2011, 05:16 PM
Joseph Naso of Reno, Nev., was being held on suspicion of murders in Marin, Contra Costa and Yuba counties dating from 1977 to 1994.

The first victim was Roxene Roggasch, whose body was found in Fairfax in Marin County in 1977, Berberian said. Carmen Colon's body was found in Port Costa in Contra Costa County in 1978.

Pamela Parsons and Tracy Tofoya were separately found dead in Yuba County in 1993 and 1994 respectively.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7518516.html


State police and other law enforcement authorities are trying to determine whether there is a connection between a 77-year-old Nevada man charged with four murders Monday and the notorious “double initial” killings in Rochester in the early 1970s.

Naso once lived in the Rochester area and traveled between the west and the Rochester region in the early 1970s, authorities say.

As well, there is an eerie similarity between the California killings and the Rochester slayings — the first and last name of each of the victims, all of whom were female, began with the same letter.

One California victim, in fact, was named Carmen Colon, the same name of the 10-year-old girl who was abducted in Rochester in 1971, sexually assaulted, and strangled.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110412/NEWS01/110412028/-1/greece/Police-look-ties-double-initial-murders-California-killings?odyssey=nav|head

i.b.nora
04-12-2011, 05:19 PM
Suspect in 4 Calif. murders may be serial killer (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7518389.html)
By JASON DEAREN and SCOTT SONNER Associated Press © 2011 The Associated Press
April 12, 2011

"SAN RAFAEL, Calif. — Authorities say they believe a 77-year-old Nevada man accused in four cold-case deaths in Northern California may have also killed in other states.

Joseph Naso is being held on suspicion of murdering women from 1977 to 1994.

Nevada authorities say Naso was a professional photographer who traveled the country for work."

more...

TechWriter797
04-12-2011, 05:20 PM
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110412/NEWS01/110412028/Police-look-ties-double-initial-murders-California-killings?odyssey=mod|lateststories

i.b.nora
04-12-2011, 05:48 PM
THIS IS A MEDIA RELEASE FROM THE STATE OF NEVADA APRIL 29, 2010.

IT IS NOT SUBJECT TO COPYRIGHT.

It is announcing that he was being held for a probation violation. This is pretty much the beginning of the end for him in terms of his being investigated for more severe crimes than robbing a Raley's. One of the things about this that interests me is that, the probation transfer from California to Nevada, where Naso was living, occurred nine days before Jaycee Dugard was discovered and Phillip and Nancy Garrido were taken into custody, having been overlooked by the California and Nevada probation departments.

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April 29, 2010
Gail Powell
Public Information Officer
Nevada Department of Public Safety
gpowell @ dps.state.nv.us
775-687-0380
MEDIA RELEASE

On April 13, 2010, the Nevada Department of Public Safety, Parole and
Probation Division placed Joseph Naso, age 76, a resident of Horizon Hills on a
no bail hold for a probation violation.
Naso’s probation case was transferred from California to Nevada Division of
Parole and Probation on Interstate Compact on August 17, 2009. Interstate
Compact is when another state agrees to take responsibility and authority for
supervising an offender because they reside in their state.
Naso’s criminal history includes convictions for petty theft in the State of
California.
Naso was placed on probation in June 2009 for grand theft at a Raley’s grocery
store in South Lake Tahoe, Ca. A Parole and Probation officer made an
unannounced home visit to Naso. During the search of his home the officer found
ammunition and four firearms. Naso was placed into custody on a probation
violation for possession of firearms.
Naso is in the Washoe County jail on Parr Blvd, his booking photo is attached.

AKWILKS
04-12-2011, 09:50 PM
Wow.

That is really interesting.

Naso must be investigated as a very serious suspect for the NY Alphabet Murders, and given his California/Nevada ties, should be looked at as a Zodiac suspect as well.

In the 1971 to 1974 Rochester NY cases three young girls were killed. Each had double initials - C.C., M.M. and W.W. The 3rd, 13th and 23rd letters of the alphabet. There was speculation the killer may have been inspired by an Agatha Christie novel, it was called the "The A.B.C. Murders", in which victims had double initials.

Now this man has been arrested for these Northern California murders, and all 4 victims had double initials. One even had the same first and last name.

From the article:

The slayings in 1971 and 1974 of three young girls in Rochester still stands as one of the most baffling unsolved crimes in the region, a case fictionalized in a movie and the focus of a book released last year. The three victims — Carmen Colon, 10, Wanda Walkowicz, 11, and Michelle Maenza, 11 – all were abducted during the day, strangled, and dumped outside the city of Rochester.

***

Naso, whose father left home and mother died when he was young, apparently moved to the west in the late 1960s, Dombroski said.


“The investigation revealed that he most likely left (Rochester NY) in ’69 but he had family here and would travel back and forth,” Dombroski said. According to the Associated Press, Marin County (Ca) District Attorney Ed Berberian said today that the 1970s victims in California were Roxene Roggasch, whose body was found in Marin County; and Carmen Colon, who was found in Contra Costa County.


He identified the 1990s victims as Pamela Parsons and Tracy Tofoya, both of whom turned up in Yuba County, Ca.

-----------------------

So were there TWO serial killers with this double initial obsession? Was Naso just a copycat? Or were the NY and California crimes done by one man, Naso?

In the California cases, the initials were CC, PP, RR and TT. The 3rd, 16th, 18th and 20th letters of the alphabet. The P (16), R (18) and T (20) series is very interesting, pattern wise.

Just for the heck of it, here is a picture of Naso and the Zodiac aged sketch, and beneath it a possible suspect sketch in the 1971/1974 Rochester Alphabet Murders.



http://i24.servimg.com/u/f24/14/94/97/81/joseph10.jpghttp://i24.servimg.com/u/f24/14/94/97/81/zodiac56.jpg


http://i24.servimg.com/u/f24/14/94/97/81/suspec12.jpg

i.b.nora
04-12-2011, 11:02 PM
DA Links Nevada Man to Fairfax Murder, Three Others (http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/da-links-nevada-man-to-fairfax-murder-three-others)
District Attorney’s office will charge 77-year-old Joseph Naso with four murders from 1977 to 1994.

By Jim Welte | 4:11pm

Snippet of info:

"According to a Marin Independent Journal article from Jan. 11, 1977, the Marin County Sheriff’s Office found out about Roggasch’s murder from an anonymous caller who said he found an unidentified nude body at 7 p.m. the night before when he had pulled his car to the side of the road because of car trouble.

Roggasch was described as 5 feet, 2 inches tall and about 135 pounds, wearing nothing but white fabric that tied her feet together.

That “discovery marked the sixth time in the past 12 months that an unidentified body has been found in Marin County after an apparent murder,” the newspaper said at the time."

RocNYchick
04-13-2011, 11:03 AM
Article about possible connection in today's Rochester D&C:

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110413/NEWS01/104130341/Calif-deaths-parallel-double-initial-murders-here?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Home

i.b.nora
04-13-2011, 09:45 PM
Sacramento checking in:

No Sacramento homicides tied to Double Initial killing suspect (http://blogs.sacbee.com/crime/archives/2011/04/no-sacramento-h.html)
April 13, 2011
sacbee
By Sam Stanton

"Before authorities released word that they had arrested a 77-year-old Reno man in four slayings going back to 1977, they alerted law enforcement officials in Sacramento and elsewhere months ago to review cold case homicides for possible connections.

Piquing their interest was the fact that all four of Joseph Naso's alleged victims had first and last names starting with the same initials, and detectives went to work checking their files.

"They went through homicides as well as female missing person's reports and got no matches with the name alliteration," Sacramento sheriff's spokesman Jason Ramos said today."

and

"Naso, a photographer, is shown in public records as having lived on Brunswick Way in Sacramento starting in 1999 and is shown in Bee archives as having been arrested in a 2003 shoplifting case at a Northgate Boulevard grocery store. Sacramento Superior Court records indicate Naso faced four other misdemeanor theft charges dating back to 1993."

and

"All four cases are being handled by the Marin County District Attorney. Naso was arraigned there today but did not enter a plea."

i.b.nora
04-13-2011, 09:53 PM
Accused serial killer, 77, arraigned in Marin Superior Court

(http://www.marinij.com/marinnews/ci_17838294)
By Gary Klien
Marin Independent Journal
Posted: 04/13/2011 05:16:51 PM PDT

"A 77-year-old accused serial killer has nearly $1 million in liquid assets and should not be eligible for free legal counsel by Marin County public defenders, the district attorney said Wednesday.

Joseph Naso appeared with a public defender for his arraignment on four counts of murder, a potential death penalty case. Naso, a retiree in Reno, ....

District Attorney Ed Berberian, without elaborating, said prosecutors suspect Naso has "considerable assets, approaching $1 million," and therefore should hire a private attorney.

and

"Berberian's statement contradicts federal court documents filed by Naso in 2005, in which he described himself as a $510-a-month Social Security recipient with a $175,000 home in Reno and a disabled son to care for.

Judge Paul Haakenson gave Naso and the public defender's office two weeks to figure out who would be representing him. David Brown, the chief public defender who handled the initial arraignment, argued unsuccessfully for more time because of the enormity of the case."

more...

TechWriter797
04-13-2011, 09:59 PM
...District Attorney Ed Berberian, without elaborating, said prosecutors suspect Naso has "considerable assets, approaching $1 million," and therefore should hire a private attorney...

Where the heck would he get a million dollars? Inherited? Lawsuit?

TechWriter797
04-13-2011, 10:59 PM
If a serial killer kills over several decades, perhaps the age of his targeted victims increases. In this case, he starts out killing 10 - 11 year -ld girs, then young women, then to women in their 30s. It sort of sounds logical.

sarx
04-13-2011, 11:27 PM
I'm curious to watch this one unfold. Was he trying or did he complete the whole alphabet? Where else has he been and how do we go about finding other cases with double initials? It must be somewhat rare?

sarx
04-13-2011, 11:30 PM
Where the heck would he get a million dollars? Inherited? Lawsuit?
Well, that's interesting.....

i.b.nora
04-14-2011, 01:02 AM
Cold case in Salt Lake has similarities to Calif. serial killer case (http://www.ksl.com/?nid=960&sid=15135743)
April 13th, 2011 @ 8:23pm
By Pat Reavy

"One case detectives might look at is a cold case from Salt Lake City. A young girl, whose first and last name begin with the same letters, was killed about the same time as the slayings in California started.

On May 12, 1977, 16-year-old Sharon Schollmeyers was found dead in her Salt Lake apartment, 125 1st Avenue. Her naked and bound body was discovered in a partially filled bathtub, according to the state's cold case website. A Utah medical examiner determined the manner of death was homicide."

more...

sarx
04-14-2011, 01:22 AM
OH boy, S.S. in Salt Lake.....

sarx
04-14-2011, 02:18 AM
And going off of one of her names...
Marcia Medler from Madison (1982 Wisconsin)
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2811dfwi.html

RocNYchick
04-14-2011, 07:51 AM
I'm curious to watch this unfold as well, sarx. This is one of those local unsolved mysteries that we all wonder about. I vividly remember it because I was the same age as the girls when it was going on. My name wasn't a double initial, but my best friend's was and I remember being scared at the time. The other interesting thing is that the bodies of each girl was dumped in a nearby town whose name had the same initial (Carmen dumped in Churchville, Wanda in Webster, and Michelle in Macedon). I haven't read up on this suspect, but was it the same case with those murders?

I hope this local mystery is on the verge of being solved. But the DNA not being a match is a wrench. But the similarities are just too eerie, not to mention 2 Carmen Colons? idk Very interesting to watch this unfold.

RocNYchick
04-14-2011, 12:30 PM
I am curious as to what your take is on this week's developments. Hope you stop by here soon!

believe09
04-14-2011, 12:34 PM
I am so energized by this development. Fingers crossed that it leads to some kind of closure.

TechWriter797
04-14-2011, 12:50 PM
I'm curious to watch this unfold as well, sarx. This is one of those local unsolved mysteries that we all wonder about. I vividly remember it because I was the same age as the girls when it was going on. My name wasn't a double initial, but my best friend's was and I remember being scared at the time. The other interesting thing is that the bodies of each girl was dumped in a nearby town whose name had the same initial (Carmen dumped in Churchville, Wanda in Webster, and Michelle in Macedon). I haven't read up on this suspect, but was it the same case with those murders?

I hope this local mystery is on the verge of being solved. But the DNA not being a match is a wrench. But the similarities are just too eerie, not to mention 2 Carmen Colons? idk Very interesting to watch this unfold.

I was only a year older than Carmen at the time. I took Carmen as my Confirmation name in her memory. It really changed the lives of us girls, making us fearful and distrusting. It would be wonderful to have these decades-old murders solved at last.

As far as the DNA not matching -- there was a theory that one of the girls (Carmen, I think) wasn't killed by the same person as the other two. I don't know which victim the DNA is associated with.

TechWriter797
04-14-2011, 12:52 PM
I was wondering how a perp would even know the names of his victims before-hand. I read that Naso was a photographer. Could he have worked for a photography company that comes into the schools to take the annual school photo of each of the children? They were all Catholic school girls, weren't they? Maybe the same company was used? Just a thought.

TechWriter797
04-14-2011, 01:01 PM
Where the heck would he get a million dollars? Inherited? Lawsuit?

Maybe selling illicit photographs?

morf13
04-14-2011, 07:42 PM
Here is my list of possible CA crimes with double initials:

Antonia Araiza:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/araiza_antonia.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/araiza_antonia.html)

Cheryl Lynn Carter:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carter_cheryl.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carter_cheryl.html)

Denise Dorfman
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dorfman_denise.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dorfman_denise.html)

Deborah Dubs:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dubs_deborah.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dubs_deborah.html)

Diane Dye:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dye_diane.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dye_diane.html)

Kimberlie Kantonen
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kantonen_kimberlie.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kantonen_kimberlie.html)

London Lawler:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lawler_london.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lawler_london.html)

Lynn Luray(southern CA 1964, Naso lived down in that area in the 60’s):
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/luray_lynn.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/luray_lynn.html)

Lara Lykiardopoulos:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lykiardopoulos_lara.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lykiardopoulos_lara.html)

Maria Monrean:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/monrean_maria.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/monrean_maria.html)

Rachel Rhodes:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rhodes_rachel.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/rhodes_rachel.html)

Sally Ann Schneider:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/schneider_sally.html (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/schneider_sally.html)

Marlene Mello (Yuba County):
http://sheriff.co.yuba.ca.us/missingperson.htm (http://sheriff.co.yuba.ca.us/missingperson.htm)

Add a couple more names to this list, both are Solano County murder victims, both appear to have died from blunt force:
Heather Hibbs (2002) & Danna Dever(1996)...forgive me if Naso was in prison at this time, I dont think I have read a full list of details as to when he was in jail.

Also, the 1976 blunt force trauma murder in South Tahoe, of Kathleen Keohane.

i.b.nora
04-14-2011, 11:57 PM
morf13
In your list, Deborah Dubs (and her husband and her son) were killed by Leonard Lake and Charles Ng.

sarx
04-15-2011, 02:03 AM
These two go one step farther like the NY vics and the letters carry over to the city names as well.

Lynn Luray(southern CA 1964, Naso lived down in that area in the 60’s):
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/luray_lynn.html

Sally Ann Schneider:
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/schneider_sally.html

i.b.nora
04-16-2011, 11:42 AM
Here is an article about Joseph Naso, living in an apartment building in the Mission District of San Francisco in the early 80s:

Joseph Naso, murder suspect, haunts old neighbors (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/16/MNAM1J1OJM.DTL)
Justin Berton, Chronicle Staff Writer
Saturday, April 16, 2011

snip

"According to Prisco and her husband, the couple received a phone call from a Nevada state police detective last year about the downstairs neighbor in the apartment building in San Francisco's Mission District where the couple lived in 1981. The detective said the man they had known as "Crazy Joe" had filled three notebooks with descriptions of how he wished to torment Prisco, then 23 years old."

and

"Iorizzo said he'd forgotten about the tenant he'd nicknamed "Crazy Joe" until last April, when Detective William Thurston of the Nevada Department of Public Safety called to ask if Prisco was still alive.

"I told him, 'I think so,' " said Iorizzo, 53. " 'I saw her go off to work this morning, and she seemed OK.' "

Iorizzo said the Nevada detective then told him investigators were sifting through stacks of boxes filled with composition notebooks, and that three notebooks were dedicated to Prisco. The details of her intended torture were so horrific, Iorizzo said, that the detective declined to repeat them over the phone.

According to Iorizzo, Thurston told him the author's name was Joseph Naso and that among his writings was a "to-do" list of women he wanted to kill - and Prisco's name was No. 10 on the list."

much more...

i.b.nora
04-17-2011, 09:05 PM
More about the couple who lived in the same building as Joseph Naso, in San Francisco.

Serial killing suspect had boxes of notebooks detailing how he would torture women, investigator told former neighbor (http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_17864738?nclick_check=1)
By Matthias Gafni
Contra Costa Times
Posted: 04/16/2011
Updated: 04/17/2011

All the same info plus a little more regarding his 'behavior' around Iorizzo and Prisco.

"The New York natives in their early 20s climbed into their yellow Volkswagen bus and drove Route 66 across the country to see what the Golden Gate would offer. Iorizzo had already lined up a gig playing bass.

The couple scraped by; Iorizzo moved furniture, Prisco got an office job at a car dealership.

The building superintendent at Prisco's job was a man Prisco barely noticed, the then-47-year-old Naso, who had just divorced his wife of 18 years in Oakland.

The couple eventually settled into a Mission district studio apartment in the 3600 block of 18th Street.

They didn't think much about it, but a new tenant lived below them. The car dealership superintendent had moved into the basement."

Holy smokes!!!

"The young couple quickly noticed Naso's odd behavior, Iorizzo said.

The Nevada investigator told Iorizzo that they found a copy of the couple's rental application in Naso's house. On the form it would have shown New York references, alerting Naso that the couple grew up in the same area of upstate New York as he did."

and

"By 1982, Iorizzo began getting a "freaky vibe," he said. His metronome would be moved in different angles; clothes would seem out of place.

"I said, 'Honey, we have to move. Something is headed our way,' " he said. "The Angel of Death was going to visit us, it felt like."

They left that April."

more, of course . . .

wv171
04-19-2011, 01:11 AM
One thing for sure..

There sure are some very strange people out there now..

Kind of make you want to stay home all the time, Double lock the doors with all metal doors and name brand deadbolt's type of lock's and install bullet proof glass all around your home..

i.b.nora
04-19-2011, 01:08 PM
Joseph Naso: Understanding an alleged serial killer (http://www.rgj.com/article/20110417/NEWS0102/104170339/1002)
8:57 PM, Apr. 16, 2011
Written by
Jaclyn O'Malley - jomalley at rgj.com

Its a good article, I am highlighting things I find especially interesting:

"During the past several years, he became caretaker to his extremely mentally ill middle-aged son, often lashing out against the system by making legal challenges regarding the son's treatment. Naso thought he could do better than health care workers, some whom he deemed incompetent and refused to let inside his home.

But Naso amassed a criminal history dating back to 1955 and seemed to have a fondness for women's underwear -- including an arrest relating to the alleged theft of underwear in the 1990s from a department store, according to the San Jose (Calif.) Mercury News. and asking a female neighbor in Yuba City, Calif., if she was selling women's underwear at her garage sale, according to Sacramento News 10.

Neighbors in Lemmon Valley described Naso, who had dozens of addresses spanning the country throughout the last several decades, to news media as strange and mentioned the fences around his modest home, which allowed no view into his backyard."

more ...

If you 'google' you will find hints about lawsuits and Naso, but I don't have the means to follow through to find out what the lawsuits were about. Maybe someone else does.

i.b.nora
04-19-2011, 01:18 PM
Naso murder arrest brings Fairfax victim's family 'a little closure'
(http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_17870041?nclick_check=1)
By Gary Klien
Marin Independent Journal
Posted: 04/17/2011 09:15:50 PM PDT
Updated: 04/17/2011 09:34:58 PM PDT

"Vernon Ashby still remembers the day in 1977 when Marin investigators called him in San Jose to say his 18-year-old stepdaughter, Roxene Roggasch, might be the woman they found murdered and dumped near Fairfax.

As detectives described the 5-foot-2-inch red-haired teen with freckles and a tattoo, Ashby recalled, "I was sure it was her."

The investigators needed an identification from next of kin. Ashby drove up with Roxene's mother, Beverly, and identified the body."

and

"Ashby, Roggasch's stepfather, said the family had no indication that she was involved in prostitution. Roggasch, who attended Mount Pleasant High School in San Jose, had a baby and went off to work for a traveling circus, Ashby said."

i.b.nora
04-19-2011, 01:25 PM
Yuba City woman recalls 'creepy' encounter with suspected serial killer (http://www.appeal-democrat.com/news/naso-105778-yuba-knew.html)
Naso was in mentally ill support group
April 18, 2011 11:41:00 PM
By Rob Young/Appeal-Democrat

"A Yuba City woman who knew accused serial killer Joseph Naso 17 years ago especially remembers his dark eyes.

Roberta Fletcher, then president of the local chapter of the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill, headed a support group for parents of mentally ill children. Naso had such a child and attended, she said."

more ...

i.b.nora
04-19-2011, 01:50 PM
Would You Buy Underwear from an Accused Serial Killer? She Almost Did...
(http://www.foxreno.com/11at11/27588194/detail.html)
Reporting in Reno, Shannon Moore Fox 11 News
Posted: 1:21 pm PDT April 18, 2011Updated: 3:04 pm PDT April 18, 2011

"It was here at the El Rancho Flea market where two random people met, a seemingly harmless interaction…or at least that’s what Reno resident Royce Talkington thought until she saw our report last night."

and

"Talkington says the two of them worked alongside each other at the swap meet.

“He had a big brown van and would lay out a blanket and all he sold was women’s lingerie.”

Never really feeling comfortable around Naso, Talkington kept her distance, but her uneasy feelings hit a whole other level when he approached her one day and invited her home to model lingerie.

“And I said no way stay away from me. I don’t want anything to do with you anymore because it really triggered something inside that said danger danger stay away from this guy.”

more...

i.b.nora
04-19-2011, 02:01 PM
And, one more article from a few days ago:

Murder victim's relatives learn of suspect's arrest through media (http://www.appeal-democrat.com/news/tafoya-105666-oldweiler-death.html)
April 14, 2011 11:10:00 PM
By Rob Young/Appeal-Democrat

"Oldweiler said her aunt's body was found in August 1994 at the Marysville Cemetery on Highway 70 north of the city. The body was unclothed and decomposed, having been there as long as a week, she said.

Hill said she was told by investigators at the time that her sister had been drugged, raped and dumped in the cemetery.

Tafoya's husband, Richard Tafoya, identified the body by an index finger that was partly missing and a tattoo on the right hand, Oldweiler said.

Richard Tafoya lives in Live Oak. A woman answered the phone Thursday and said authorities had told him not to speak with the media."

more...

shadowraiths
04-28-2011, 05:08 AM
Alleged serial killer asks to be his own attorney
Justin Berton, Chronicle Staff Writer
Thursday, April 28, 2011


The septuagenarian charged with murdering four Northern California women over a span of 17 years told a Marin County judge Wednesday that he wants to act as his own defense attorney.

"I have a lot of experience representing myself during proceedings," 77-year-old Joseph Naso told Superior Court Judge Andrew Sweet, referring to lawsuits Naso said he'd contested, and a court battle over the guardianship of one of his sons. "And I've done well - I've prevailed."
Full Article: click here (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/04/28/BA1K1J8KR4.DTL)

shadowraiths
04-28-2011, 07:49 PM
Family Friend Tells of Accused Serial Killer's Past
Thirty years ago, Joe Naso was a sports fan, photographer and antique bottle collector, according to a friend of his son.
By Lance Howland | Email the author | April 25, 2011


When he lived in the East Bay three decades ago, Joe Naso was a photographer and sports fan who would organize family trips to beaches to add to his family’s collection of antique bottles.

Naso is now accused of the murders of four Northern California women from the 1970s through the 1990s, including that of Roxene Roggasch, whose body was found on Jan. 11 1977 on the east side of White's Hill off of Sir Francis Drake Boulevard.

But one can get a sense of a different Naso family that lived in Piedmont back in the last 1970s and early 1980s — Judy and Joe Naso and their sons, David and Charlie — in an interview with a childhood friend of David’s. That friend asked for anonymity in granting interviews with Patch.
Full Article: click here (http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/family-friend-tells-of-accused-serial-killers-past)

Salem
04-29-2011, 07:22 PM
He will represent himself: http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_17939744?source=rss&nclick_check=1


Salem

shadowraiths
04-29-2011, 10:05 PM
By Karl Fischer, Robert Salonga and Matthias Gafni
Contra Costa Times
© Copyright 2011, Bay Area News Group
Posted: 04/24/2011 08:12:10 PM PDT
Updated: 04/25/2011 11:08:55 AM PDT


Last summer, scores of police descended upon Medgar Avenue, sealed the block and tore through the white, one-story house, jack-hammering the concrete floor and leaving state troopers to guard the property at night.

Therein, authorities extracted a lifetime worth of nightmarish evidence: bankers boxes full of composition notebooks filled with descriptions of torture and stalking, incriminating photographs, even a list of women's names -- presumably targets, sources said.

The evidence found in the house ultimately linked Naso to four unsolved slayings in Northern California: Roxene Roggasch, whose body was found near Fairfax in January 1977; Carmen Colon, near Port Costa in August 1978; Pamela Parsons, in Yuba County in September 1993; and Tracy Tafoya, in Marysville in August 1994.

Naso's preferred killing style, law enforcement sources say, was to strangle prostitutes and dump their bodies in rural areas. Investigators will not say whether the four women he's accused of killing were prostitutes, but indications suggest some might have been. And law enforcement sources strongly intimate they might solve more cases of missing and slain women before the investigation ends.
article link (http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_17920969)

wfgodot
06-04-2011, 02:28 PM
Joseph Naso, serial killing suspect, says racy bondage photos consensual (http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_18155079)
Posted: 05/27/2011 10:26:39 AM PDT

---
Investigators recovered more than 4,000 photos of scantily clad women, some in bondage and others appearing unconscious, sources told Bay Area News Group in previous reports. Investigators have spent the past year attempting to identify the hundreds of photographed women, who vary in age and race. No children appear in the photos.

"The photos of women were posed under free will," Naso told the judge.

Naso also had a "to-do list" of women's names and notebooks detailing how he would like to torture them, another source told Bay Area News Group.
---
more at Conta Costra Times link above

wfgodot
06-16-2011, 06:43 PM
Documents: Serial killings suspect kept photos, Top 10 list including 4 California victims (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/documents-serial-killings-suspect-kept-photos-top-10-list-including-4-california-victims/2011/06/16/AGGHukXH_story.html) (Washington Post)

SAN FRANCISCO — Serial killing suspect Joseph Naso kept photographs, news clippings and journals related to four prostitutes whom he is charged with killing, documents released Thursday show.

Authorities had said previously that they had found an enormous amount of evidence linking Naso to the killings of four women, all with matching initials, and the newly released probable cause statement was the first glimpse into this evidence.
---much more, detailing certain findings, at link above

i.b.nora
07-07-2011, 09:01 PM
Judge looks into serial-killing suspect's assets (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/07/07/BA461K7P2H.DTL&tsp=1)
Justin Berton, Chronicle Staff Writer
San Francisco Chronicle July 7, 2011 05:05 PM

(07-07) 17:05 PDT SAN RAFAEL -- "A Marin County judge ordered an auditor Thursday to decide whether an elderly photographer accused of murdering four Northern California women is wealthy enough to pay for a co-defense attorney, or if county taxpayers should foot the bill for a public defender.

Superior Court Judge Andrew Sweet said a county official would look into how much Joseph Naso, 77, of Reno is worth.

Naso won the right to represent himself in May, but asked Sweet this week to provide him with an advisory attorney to help him prepare for his murder trial. The judge granted the request Thursday but left open the question of who would pay for the lawyer."

and

"Naso is due back in court in San Rafael on July 26."

i.b.nora
07-08-2011, 03:31 PM
Documents: Serial killings suspect kept photos, Top 10 list including 4 California victims (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/documents-serial-killings-suspect-kept-photos-top-10-list-including-4-california-victims/2011/06/16/AGGHukXH_story.html) (Washington Post)
much more, detailing certain findings, at link above
The Washington Post link no longer works but the story is available at other sites. Its an AP story by Jason Dearen. He is local to the Bay Area. He used to write for the Mercury News / Contra Costa Times.
Here is one:

http://old.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110616/ap_on_re_us/us_double_initial_killings_3

snip

"Authorities had said previously that they had found an enormous amount of evidence linking Naso to the killings of four women, all with matching initials, and the newly released probable cause statement was the first glimpse into this evidence.

The 77-year-old Naso may have used his then-wife's panty hose to strangle one of the women, Roxene Roggasch, whose 1977 murder has been unsolved for decades, the documents state.

"DNA testing was done during which the DNA of Judith Naso ... was found on the panty hose around her neck," wrote Ryan Peterson, a Marin County sheriff's investigator.

The probable cause statement, used to hold Naso in jail, was unsealed Thursday after a coalition of media groups led by The Associated Press challenged the court's decision to seal them at Naso's arraignment."

much more...

Kat
07-29-2011, 11:59 PM
I knew nothing about this case. I'll have to come back and read this thread.

http://www.therepublic.com/view/story/dd0a09071ac04d7c9fc27b9239685263/CA--Double-Initial-Killings/

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First Posted: July 29, 2011 - 6:12 pm
Last Updated: July 29, 2011 - 9:01 pm



A judge has ruled that Marin County will not pay for a legal adviser for a serial killing suspect who is representing himself in his murder trial.


In issuing his ruling, the judge directed prosecutors to provide Naso with his Wells Fargo checkbook.

parakeet
09-25-2011, 07:52 PM
I just wonder if the initial thing was a coincidence, and if any murders of other young girls have not been considered to be by the same killer just based on initials. If all 3 were in a camp or church or some such together, I could see the relationship,, otherwise I have to chaulk it up to being just another coincidence that's bound to happen in a chaotic universe. According to profiler pat brown's (I think that's her name) "Top ten myths of serial killers" it is a popular myth that serial killers spend alot of time searching for the "perfect victim",, when they really 'settle' for who is available. If the initials are a factor, what would be the motive? I would think we were dealing with a killer who has ocd.

maima
09-30-2011, 04:28 PM
I had never heard of this guy, either, until reading about him on another thread today. I did a Google News search and found these two recent articles. He keeps trying to delay his case:

Serial Slaying Suspect Flip Flops Again On Attorney
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_18913710

Alleged Serial Killer Wants to Be Unshackled in Court
http://www.ktvu.com/news/29353257/detail.html

liz b.
11-06-2011, 01:56 PM
I was wondering how a perp would even know the names of his victims before-hand. I read that Naso was a photographer. Could he have worked for a photography company that comes into the schools to take the annual school photo of each of the children? They were all Catholic school girls, weren't they? Maybe the same company was used? Just a thought.

As far as I know, the girls were not attending Catholic schools at the time of their murders. And, IIRC, they did not all belong to the same parish. There had to be another way that their killer researched them. MOO Finding that way would reveal a lot...MOO

liz b.
11-06-2011, 01:59 PM
Joseph Naso of Reno, Nev., was being held on suspicion of murders in Marin, Contra Costa and Yuba counties dating from 1977 to 1994.

The first victim was Roxene Roggasch, whose body was found in Fairfax in Marin County in 1977, Berberian said. Carmen Colon's body was found in Port Costa in Contra Costa County in 1978.

Pamela Parsons and Tracy Tofoya were separately found dead in Yuba County in 1993 and 1994 respectively.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7518516.html


State police and other law enforcement authorities are trying to determine whether there is a connection between a 77-year-old Nevada man charged with four murders Monday and the notorious “double initial” killings in Rochester in the early 1970s.

Naso once lived in the Rochester area and traveled between the west and the Rochester region in the early 1970s, authorities say.

As well, there is an eerie similarity between the California killings and the Rochester slayings — the first and last name of each of the victims, all of whom were female, began with the same letter.

One California victim, in fact, was named Carmen Colon, the same name of the 10-year-old girl who was abducted in Rochester in 1971, sexually assaulted, and strangled.

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110412/NEWS01/110412028/-1/greece/Police-look-ties-double-initial-murders-California-killings?odyssey=nav|head

Could well be him.MOO If only we knew how he went about finding his potential victims...

liz b.
11-06-2011, 05:23 PM
Since there was dna and a print saved from the Rochester murders, it seems likely that we would have heard by now if Naso had killed all of these victims.... Strange. MOO In terms of statistical probabilities, the chances of it being a coincidence that these victims had the same first and last initials, well, it's highly unlikely... MOO

fhc
01-11-2012, 09:42 PM
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/01/11/suspect-in-serial-killings-kept-rape-diary-officer-says/

Suspect in serial killings kept rape diary, officer says
Published January 11, 2012
| Associated Press

WTH took LE so long???

oceanblueeyes
01-12-2012, 09:29 PM
In a bedroom in Naso's home, investigators also found a "List of 10" that contained scrawled descriptions of 10 women, including four references that prosecutors believe described murder victims — Roxene Roggasch, 18, Carmen Colon, 22, Parsons, 38, and Tafoya, 31.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-accused-killing-women-defends-grim-photos-15337012

Reannan
01-12-2012, 10:01 PM
It is fascinating to read back over time about a case like this. Cudo's to i.b.nora and all of the other WS'ers who have followed the NY murders and sought justice.

fhc
01-17-2012, 08:48 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/police-in-northern-calif-town-exhume-womans-body-seeking-clues-to-suspected-serial-killer/2012/01/17/gIQA96qZ6P_story.html

Police in Northern Calif. town exhume woman’s body seeking clues to suspected serial killer

Testimony resumed Tuesday, focusing on Roggasch’s disappearance and death. At the end of the hearing, the judge will determine if enough evidence exists to send Naso to trial.

JoeFromLB
01-23-2012, 04:43 PM
Naso was ordered to stand trial for four murders.
Arraignment is set for February 3:

http://www.contracostatimes.com/news/ci_19800257

bessie
01-24-2012, 03:45 AM
Justice has been a long time coming for the victims of this killer. I hope the investigation won't end with the current charges. The families of his other victims need answers, too.

LeighAnnR
01-25-2012, 08:39 PM
I have been spending many hours researching, and following the Naso case/pre-lim. I firmly believe that this guy is a prolific serial killer. In doing background research on Naso: Lived in N CA., inc., Oak; SFO;Yuba City; Sac. Moved to Reno in mid 1990's. Born in Elmira NY, and travelled to E Coast, regularly. I am pulling a comlete background check that should have more exact dates.

He is being arraigned Feb 3, for the killing of 4 women with the same initials. (Alliterative) In researching the N CA area, there are many more women missing with alliterative initials. (Denise Dorfman; Diane Dye; Ngol Noa; Pam Pedro; Mary Ann Mccluskey (Hogland); Cindy Cook; Heather Hibbs; Kimberlie Kay Kantonen; Kristi Krebs; Sally Sims; Sally Anne Schneider (San Anselmo); Sylvia Standley )

See: For others. http://www.redding.com/databases/missing/california/

Two Tahoe cold cases: Kathleen Keohane and Marina Mitchell.
Also, Reno area cold cases: Cindy Cook of Reno, and Julia Woodward and Jeannie Smith of Lemmon Valley, where Naso lived.
Also Missing: Khym Scruggs (Sacramento) Dena McHan (Sacramento)

There were also the 70's "Santa Rosa Hitch hiker Murders" that are unsolved. Naso was in N CA dutring this time. The M.O.'s are similar. The SRO H.H's were strangled. See: http://www.santarosahitchhikermurders.com/

There was another young women found in Healdsburg on Jan 24, 1983. (This one is NOT listed on Namus or Doe Net.)

In his safety deposit box he had a list/pics of 10 women. 4 ID'd, for which he is charged. He also mentions Berkeley CA, and Girl from "Mt Tam". I think i found two missing from that area: A 6yo black girl Tracy Anderson, from San Rafael.
2) Katrina Ashford (19) was possibly involved in a prostitution ring in the San Francisco Bay Area. In July 1972 she disappeared in San Rafael.

Naso worked at a PHOTO Shop in Berkeley.
5-20-76 Lynn Ruth Connes: She had gone to meet with a photographer named "Jeff", on Telegraph Ave in Berkeley, who had answered her ad for a photographer's model. Lynn ALSO worked in Marin County.

There are a bunch of unsolved/Unid'd young women in N. CA. I have not had a chance to thoroughly check in (Reno) NV.
If someone can check Reno and other areas for SK clusters, it would be great.
This helps to find patterns:
http://www.scrippsnews.com/projects/serial-killers/find-serial-killers

See the sketch of the suspect in this case: Karen Marie Mitchell. Dead ringer for Naso:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1863dfca.html

DebbS
01-25-2012, 10:03 PM
Joseph Naso's son Charles J Naso did have a Santa Rosa address at one point. I am not sure if maybe Joseph also lived at that address, too.

Also there was a woman with a double initial name that went missing in 1982 from Sonoma County. She has not been found to the best of my knowledge.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carter_cheryl.html

LeighAnnR
01-26-2012, 01:10 AM
Thanks for Cheryl Carter, Debra.


So, FIVE girls MISSING from Sonoma County: Cheryl Carter- 9-7-82
(Santa Rosa) Cheryl Wyant-5-1-78 (Rohnert Park) , Mary Anne Hogland-McCluskey 7-81(Santa Rosa) , Jackie Kay Boyer 5-21-80(Windsor) and Jeanette Kamahele 4-25-72(Cotati). This is a SMALL area. A Lot of girls.

I can't find a SRO address for Naso. I see mention on the web, but no addy, yet. Will wait for formal background check. Son, Charles J. is a dependent adult. Perhaps Dad was using his name.

There were also TWO UnID'd women's bodies found in Sonoma County.

One was found in the same site as the SRHH's (also called the SR CoEd's)
She was found in July 1979, and the postulated (then) DoD was approx 1972-3(I need to see if there is an update on the DoD.)

The other is the January 24, 1983 woman found in Foss Creek, Healdsburg. The locals are checking that with Naso's info. She was exhumed.
I have little info on this body.

I just found the S.O.'s report for Victim Kim Wendy Allen (S R HH's) She was last seen hitch hiking in SAN RAFAEL. She also was raped,and there was semen present. This could be the Naso MT TAM reference. (Mt Tam is in San Rafael) ( I hope my local L.E. are looking into this.....)
Common thread on the SR HH's: hwy 101, and the perp dumped them in rural areas, miles from 101. He had to know the area.

This is making me sick. Reading the reports on the bodies.....horrible.

Still_Seek_Answers
01-26-2012, 01:43 AM
Thanks for Cheryl Carter, Debra.


So, FIVE girls MISSING from Sonoma County: Cheryl Carter- 9-7-82
(Santa Rosa) Cheryl Wyant-5-1-78 (Rohnert Park) , Mary Anne Hogland-McCluskey 7-81(Santa Rosa) , Jackie Kay Boyer 5-21-80(Windsor) and Jeanette Kamahele 4-25-72(Cotati). This is a SMALL area. A Lot of girls.

I can't find a SRO address for Naso. I see mention on the web, but no addy, yet. Will wait for formal background check. Son, Charles J. is a dependent adult. Perhaps Dad was using his name.

There were also TWO UnID'd women's bodies found in Sonoma County.

One was found in the same site as the SRHH's (also called the SR CoEd's)
She was found in July 1979, and the postulated (then) DoD was approx 1972-3(I need to see if there is an update on the DoD.)

The other is the January 24, 1983 woman found in Foss Creek, Healdsburg. The locals are checking that with Naso's info. She was exhumed.
I have little info on this body.

I just found the S.O.'s report for Victim Kim Wendy Allen (S R HH's) She was last seen hitch hiking in SAN RAFAEL. She also was raped,and there was semen present. This could be the Naso MT TAM reference. (Mt Tam is in San Rafael) ( I hope my local L.E. are looking into this.....)
Common thread on the SR HH's: hwy 101, and the perp dumped them in rural areas, miles from 101. He had to know the area.

This is making me sick. Reading the reports on the bodies.....horrible.

Yes, those can often be horrible. Have you contacted your local LE with this? Any response from them?If not have you talked to any reporters? If you keep making calls with clear facts, someone will listen at some point.....

LeighAnnR
01-26-2012, 04:09 PM
I did not put this thread with the NY ALPHABET thread, b/c as of this date, NASO has not been implicated in any way with the NY Crimes. The title of this thread is inaccurate, for that reason.

And, there is a strong likelihood that Naso is involved in the SR HH's multiple murders. Hence, the name of my thread.

I am a PI/JD//Legal researcher in N CA., and wanted to focus on the N CA/Reno issues with NASO.

If you could repost this by itself, again, it would be appreciated.

Thank you.

jackornaught
01-26-2012, 05:03 PM
I too had the hair stand up on the back of my neck when this guy was arrested in Reno.

Hopefully the police make some of the photos public, after his trial, and conviction. Like other agencies have done.

It would be interesting to find out more about his physical appearance in the early '70's. There were possible sightings of men with some of the SRHM victims. Particularly, I white male with an afro style haircut.

This guy Naso is a very scary monster, he almost made it his entire life without answering for his crimes, because he is not a young man.

(I agree there should be a sepparate thread called Naso: SRHM

LeighAnnR
02-01-2012, 12:41 AM
"[P]olice investigators acknowledge that they have no information connecting him to Rochester's crimes.


His DNA does not match that from the Walkowicz slaying — the one in which police have genetic evidence. Nor did the stash of his writings, which allegedly led authorities to connect him to the northern California slayings, mention the Rochester killings."

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110509/NEWS01/105070349/No-evidence-links-Joseph-Naso-Rochester-s-Double-Initial-killings

bessie
02-02-2012, 08:25 AM
"[P]olice investigators acknowledge that they have no information connecting him to Rochester's crimes.


His DNA does not match that from the Walkowicz slaying — the one in which police have genetic evidence. Nor did the stash of his writings, which allegedly led authorities to connect him to the northern California slayings, mention the Rochester killings."

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20110509/NEWS01/105070349/No-evidence-links-Joseph-Naso-Rochester-s-Double-Initial-killings
True, but the investigation into the Rochester murders is part of the story on Naso. With that out of the way for now, we can move on to your theory about the other possibly related murders. I'd love to hear more.

kemo
02-02-2012, 06:18 PM
There is pretty solid evidence that Naso killed 4 women in Northern Calif between 1972 and 1993. There are extensive writing by Naso describing killings and horrific acts against women. The writings include references to the 4 who are known to be murder victims (one with DNA linked to Naso) and references to six other women who may also be victims. None have been identified. Naso lived in Northern Calif (and later Nevada) since about 1970. The four known victims have first and last initials that are the same.

In Naso's native Rochester NY, in 1970-74, there was a well documented series of killing involving young girls with the same first and last initials. Although he had moved to California by that time, he was known to have periodically returned. His DNA is not a match for the one girl with useable biological evidence. This would tend to rule him out as the perp but raises possibility of a "copycat/imitation" motive. 4 victims, all with the same first and last initial seems an improbable but not all together impossible coincidence.

There are many missing girls and the unsolved homicides of young women in the San Francisco Bay area from 1970 to the present. Could Naso be responsible for some of these? The Santa Rosa Hitchhike Murders; the killing of 8 women in a two year period in 1972-73, are particularly interesting. What is needed is to compare cases of missing and murdered women with where Naso was living at the time.

Naso has claimed the writings were just "fantasies" and one woman has been identified that was the subject of lengthy accounts of sexual violence but Naso never actually harmed her. In addition, it is believed that the 4 known victims were all prostitutes, yet very few missing or murdered women in Northern California were prostitutes.

Naso will probably be convicted of one or more of the 4 killings and spend the rest of his life in prison. At 78, he is unlikely to live long enough to be executed.

bessie
02-03-2012, 03:06 AM
That's a nice recap, Kemo. You've summed up the entire thread in a few paragraphs and put the case in perspective. Thank you!

What I wouldn't give to see that list. Of the ten known and probable murders, we have these facts on the four for which Naso stands accused.

#3 -- 01/11/1977, Roxene Roggasch, 18, body found in Fairfax
#4 -- 08/13/1978, Carmen Colon, 22, body found near Port Costa
#9 -- 09/19/1993, Pamela Parsons, 38, body found in Yuba City near Marysville
#10 -- 09/06/1994, Tracey Tafoya, 31, body found in Marysville

http://millvalley.patch.com/articles/unsealed-docs-detail-probable-cause-for-nasos-murder-arrest

So I'd work within the framework of what we know and focus on women with double initials; who went missing or were murdered prior to 1977, probably beginning around 1973-74, and later between 1979-93; in locations where Naso was known to live or frequent; and keep my eyes peeled for any hints of photography.

That's not to say he didn't commit murders outside of that timeframe. Who knows what he did in Reno after the mid-90's. And I wouldn't rule out the SRHH murders or other northern California murders if the dots connect. It will be interesting to see what new facts might be revealed from the evidence at trial.

ETA: link for references to other locations


Wednesday, January 11, 2011
Jacobs said he and another probation officer, who will testify Wednesday, also found a list containing 10 unnamed "girls" followed by a geographic location. The list of locations included, "Near Port Costa, near Loganitas (sic), near Mt. Tam, near Berkeley, near Heldsburg (sic), Mendocino County," and a Yuba County location.http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Gruesome-Details-Emerge-in-Joseph-Naso-Hearing-137098208.html

kemo
02-03-2012, 03:15 PM
Apparently, found amongst Naso's papers, were some identification for a woman who went by either Renee Shapiro or Sara Dylan. She vanished in San Francisco in May of 1992(although I can't find her on any missing person web site). She happened to be an obsessive Bob Dylan fan that used his ex-wife's name. She followed his tour around the world and apparently Bob Dylan was aware of her as a "crazy" who might cause trouble. There is no indication that she was involved in prostitution and she didn't have a "double initial" name.

There are also indications that some other references found in his papers have been tentatively identified. Every law enforcement agency in any jurisdiction that Naso ever had ties to is going to have to take a look at any unsolved murders of women or missing women cases. You never know what Naso might do. He might go to his grave denying everything or he may come clean and confess everything once he figures out he will never get out of prison. If he is handled properly, a lot of cases stand to be solved.

I really don’t know what to make of the “double initial” aspect of the case. I can’t see an obvious way he could select victims on the bases of name (or why he would do it). Still, any murdered or missing woman with such a name should be looked at carefully.

geojeffrey
02-04-2012, 01:47 PM
Kemo--any thoughts about a possible linkage between Naso and Kristen Modaferri?

kemo
02-05-2012, 05:14 PM
Kemo--any thoughts about a possible linkage between Naso and Kristen Modaferri?


I am aware of nothing that ties Naso to that case. LE has held back a lot of information.
The Modaferri case is interesting because there is a lot of information out there. The family has pushed hard. Unfortunate, the story is more about false leads and mis-steps and there is really nothing solid that I know of.

An intriguing lead is the fact that Kristen had placed a personal ad seeking a female companion shortly before her disappearance and the last reported sighting was near her place of employment right after she would have gotten off work. A co-worker saw her talking to a blonde woman. Could she have fallen victim to a sexual predator who used female accomplices?

Another possibility is that Kristen had told co-workers that she planned to go to Lands End that day. It is not unheard of for people to be caught by a rogue wave or otherwise get sweep to sea at that spot. It could have been unfortunate accident.

Kristen was in California studying photography and Naso was a professional photographer. Is that a connection?

LeighAnnR
02-05-2012, 05:20 PM
What I wouldn't give to see that list.



Your wish is my command. ;) After relentless Googling, and checking every mention of this, I was able to put this together. (Some sources use different numbers for the girls.) (Underlined are UNKNOWN assumed victims)

1) Girl Near Healdsburg
2) Girl Near Port Costa: Id'd as C.C.
3) Girl From Lagunitas: Id'd as R.R.
4) Girl From Mt Tam
5) Girl From MRV Cemetery: Id'd asT.T.
6) Girl Near Yuba City: Id'd as P.P
7) Girl from 839 Leavenworth (San Fran)Naso managed the building
8) Girl From Berkeley
9) Sara Dylan ( Renee Shapiro) Naso notes: 5-4-1992 date of concert
10) Margaret Prisco: ALIVE, Neighbor of Naso's @ 18th/Oakwood SFO.

I will concentrate on the Healdsburg Sonoma County connection:

1) There is one unid'd F's in Sonoma County that has been exhumed, and looked at specifically for this case.

There is another gal: Susan Lori Dye: Hitchhiker, Found dead 10-17-75, near Healdsburg, dumped under Hwy 101, and she was strangled.

This from the Sonoma County Sheriff's website: "There were a series of homicides beginning in 1971 and ending in 1977, which involved eleven victims."


However, I find nowhere else where they acknowldge this many victims in the ostensible : Hitchiker Murders. The big issues:

Multiple jurisdictions.

Sonoma county HAS FAILED to list the TWO unidentified F bodies on DOE/NAMUS. Healdsburg L.E. was specifically requested to by a WS volunteer in 2010.

One UN ID'd F was found in 1979, in the same spot as the SR Hitchikers. Little to no info has been released to help ID this girl. I will call L.E. tomorrow.

There are more unsolved murders of women found along Hwy 101 that were raped/strangled/dumped. Some fit the M.O. of Naso, and the S.R. H.H. murders.

If you want to look at other potential victims, there is a cluster of dead unsolved "prostitute" murders from Contra Costa county during the same time period Naso was active. Also, look at the Reno missing/dead RIGHT NEXT door and within a few miles of Naso's house! (I have a background check of prior addresses.)

Also, a series of murders in San Fran from: May 29, 1973- July 15, 1973 has been associated with the SR HH murders. I have found reference to a "Confidential CA DOJ report" that attributes all of these murders to the same Perp, but i can find NO RELIABLE info to back this up. If it was confidential, I don't believe a FOIA request will do it.

My educated hypothesis on the Girl From Berkeley is Lynn Ruth Connes. She disappeared May 20, 1976. (mentioned by me in this thread/earlier post. She was a Model, who had placed an ad for a photographer. She met "Jeff" a photographer, who answered her ad, on Telegraph Ave in Berkeley at Le Bateau Ives restaurant. NASO worked in a photo shp on TELEGRAPH ave in Berkeley, and owned a house a few miles away. I wonder if she is the UNID'd SR HH victim from 7-2-79.

LAR

kemo
02-06-2012, 03:32 PM
Very interesting stuff. I also found a reference to the Calif DOJ rept. This internet "blogger-type" report included not only the Santa Rosa Hitchhiker and the 1973 San Francisco cluster, but a number of other murders of young women in the Greater Bay Area and the Northern Central Valley: particularly the Sacramento area. These murders are often referred to as the California Astrology Murders (because they were believed to occur during significant dates in astrology)

Between 12/69 and 2/74 at least 25 women were killed in Northern California fitting the basic pattern of being abducted, murdered by various means, and then dumped. This seems like a lot but I have no idea what the "baseline" numbers would be. If there were significantly less during the period 1975-1980, this would tell us a lot more. There is no question that the phenomenon of the serial kill/sexual predator targeting women was somewhat unique to the 1970's and 80's and has dropped off appreciably. Since 1985 or so, most of these cases have involved prostitutes and they are less common. I would attribute this to better Law Enforcement, forensic advances and fewer juvenile "runaways" and women hitchhiking.

I have no idea if any of these can be linked to Naso. I know he lived in Oakland at one point in the early 1970's but I don't know the dates. He was in San Francisco in the early 1980's. Apparently he was in Yuba City in the 1990's and later moved to Reno.
I am not aware of any cluster of unsolved "prostitute" murders from Contra Costa County. Do you or anyone have any more information?

geojeffrey
02-12-2012, 02:21 PM
Kemo--as you said, so little is known about Kristen's case, I hope the ongoing investigation and trial of Naso brings some info. related to Kristen, since her case seems cold and stalled.

After looking at news stories, no solid link between Kristen and Naso emerges, but he was known to travel to Berkley, Oakland and SF. Naso had worked at a camera shop in Berkley--not sure if the time is a match--but he was at very least, familiar with the area. Kristen was to begin a photography class at Berkley within a few days of her disappearance since she was getting ready for class and familiarizing herself with the area. Also, Kristen lived in Oakland as does Naso's ex wife.

It sure would be nice if any progress was made towards finding Kristen.

LeighAnnR
02-12-2012, 06:02 PM
Hey Kemo,

I believe that i've found where the "confidential DOJ report" idea must've come from. I FOUND SOMETHING REAL, not unsubstantiated words! (i hate when they fail to substantiate serious assertions.)

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=L98oAAAAIBAJ&sjid=jAYGAAAAIBAJ&pg=5934,6410248&dq=computer-cites-killing-similarities&hl=en

4-25-75 "Computer Cites Killing Similarities" L.A.Times

"A computer search of murder records in the State Atty general's office.... established that AT LEAST 14 young California victims... appear to have been slain by the same person...." (1972-1975)

6 SRO Hitch hikers;5 girls in SFO;1 in Marysville;1 in Monterrey;1 in Redding.

The 4 in SFO were referred to as the Astrology BS.

The police reports that I have on the SFO murders, document that 4 girls were found nude, Manually asphyxiated, and missing an earring. (S.F.P.D. Information Bulletin, No 61-73, 8-6-1973)

Marysville: Brenda Merchant: 2-1-74; Monterrey: 9-29-74; Nancy Feusi Redding:

Newton, in his "Encyclopedia of Unsolved Crimes" refers to this as the "Confidential DOJ report", as do most of the Zodiac Forums.

Additional victims: Same killer (My educated hypothesis) Most of the victims were initially attributed to the Zodiac. Most of the info comes from the Z web pages, and I verified it through Newspaper archives, "Times Standard" Humboldt County, CA., 1976-77.

My research is showing that these have similar M.O.s, victimology, and the time frame is consistent.

Barbara Jean Stroud DOD: 1-1-73. Car was found on Hwy 101, N of Willits. She was nude, strangled, and sexually assualted.

Susan Lori Dye 19 DOD: 10-17-75. Hitchiking on 101. Strangled, bound found off of 101, Dutcher Creek Rd exit/ in Asti, CA

Janet Lee Bowman 19 DOD: 9-30-75-10-6 Last seen in Humboldt Co. Found Hwy 299 N of Blue Lake. Naked, Strangled, raped, beaten. This is a couple of miles from Hwy 101.

Karen Frances Fisher She was found raped and strangled to death Sunday Jan. 18, 1976 near the stone cross at Trinidad Head. Last seen alive at Clam Beach on Jan. 14, 1976 trying to hitch a ride to Trinidad, Humboldt County. Again, a couple of miled from 101.

Victoria Lynn Schneider had been Raped & strangled to death. Missing June 15 when Victoria left her friend's house, telling them she was going to hitchhike to Samoa Beach to sunbathe. Found on the sand dunes in Samoa, Humboldt County, 6-30-76. Again, a couple of miles from 101.

218 Miles from Santa Rosa to Reno. 245 to Yuba City, 344 to Reno.

I will be posting the info on the Santa Rosa HH Jane Doe found 7-79 , on the appropriate thread, asap. (Thanks to Deb Silva of SR HH's web site.)

Waiting to hear from the P.D. on the Healdsburg Jane Doe of 1-24-83. Might have to file a FOIA request if these yahoos fail to release info on the Jane Doe. Really, it's only been 29 years, that she has been missed!!!

I am going to focus on known decedents, at this point.

Caveat: I will tell you when I am posting my opinions. I am a P.I., and a Legal researcher with 30+ years experience. I spend many hours on my research, and try to well document my facts.

kemo
02-13-2012, 01:41 AM
LeighAnnR
You have some very good information.

I grew up in the Bay Area and was very much aware of the number of young women in the early 1970's that were murdered or went missing while hitchhiking. The big question, I guess, is whether this was a result of one or more Serial killers who committed many murder or just a series of random opportunistic killings that were made possible by the large numbers of young women who engaged in hitchhiking.

The Santa Rosa Hitchhiker murders, which I believe started with Lisa Smith in March of 1971 and continued through Dec 1973, were probably committed by one person. It is possible that one or more were "not related" but so many in such a small area in such a short time are much more than random events. What the identified women had in common was hitchhiking.

The DOJ report links them to the four murders in San Francisco between May 29th 1973 and July 15th. I can find little information on these cases. Unlike Sonoma County, Hitchhiking was not particularly common in San Francisco. Were these women known to hitchhike? If not, I am skeptical that they are related to the Santa Rosa cases. On the other hand, they may represent a separate cluster.

Brenda Merchant and Nancy Feusi, the other cases in California the DOJ identified as "related" did involve hitchhiking. There were quite a few others in Nor Cal at the time that also involved hitchhiking; the question is whether there were other factors to link them to the Santa Rosa and Santa Rosa cluster.

I think the existence of many young women hitchhiking created an opportunistic situation for men with a predisposition to commit rape and murder. Some of these were "one shot" situations, others led to the classic "serial killings". For cases that involved no forensic evidence, the best chance of solving them is to link them to other solved cases. Any time an old murder is solved; there is the chance that linkage can be found to similar crimes. I think Joseph Naso in one of these situations but I am not so sure that he is the perp behind all that many crimes. I trust the investigators do what they can.

As for the new cases that you introduced. I suspect that Bowman, Fisher, and Schneider are part of a Humboldt County cluster that I was unaware of. I wonder if you have uncovered a Serial killer in that area.

From what I tell, the Barbara Jean Stroud killing has been solved. It involved a number of local men. It did not involve hitchhiking (she was run off the road) and she knew one or more of her killers.

Naso is charged with four murders. All of them were prostitutes I understand. There are some other cases that may be linked to Naso that could open up the possibility of solving many Nor Cal cases.

I agree with you that the suspect in the Karen Mitchell case looks a lot like Naso. Can he be linked to a car like the one described or the Humboldt area in general?

Lynn Ruth Connes was to meet a "photographer" in Berkeley at the same time Naso worked in a Berkeley Photography shop but can a link really be made? We will see.

bessie
02-13-2012, 01:48 AM
Kemo, do you have a link to the DOJ report?

kemo
02-13-2012, 01:49 AM
Kemo--as you said, so little is known about Kristen's case, I hope the ongoing investigation and trial of Naso brings some info. related to Kristen, since her case seems cold and stalled.

After looking at news stories, no solid link between Kristen and Naso emerges, but he was known to travel to Berkley, Oakland and SF. Naso had worked at a camera shop in Berkley--not sure if the time is a match--but he was at very least, familiar with the area. Kristen was to begin a photography class at Berkley within a few days of her disappearance since she was getting ready for class and familiarizing herself with the area. Also, Kristen lived in Oakland as does Naso's ex wife.

It sure would be nice if any progress was made towards finding Kristen.

Kristen went missing in 1997. By that time, from what I can tell, Naso was in Reno. I don't know where Kristen was studying Photography. If Naso worked there, someone in LE should have picked up on it. If not, perhaps they are following this thread. I’d say it is probably a long shot.

kemo
02-13-2012, 01:52 AM
Kemo, do you have a link to the DOJ report?

This is what LeighAnnR found: http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...larities&hl=en (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=910&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.websleuths.com%2Fforums%2Fsho wthread.php%3Fp%3D7596059%26posted%3D1%23post75960 59&v=1&libid=1329112243265&out=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnewspapers%3Fid %3DL98oAAAAIBAJ%26sjid%3DjAYGAAAAIBAJ%26pg%3D5934% 2C6410248%26dq%3Dcomputer-cites-killing-similarities%26hl%3Den&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.websleuths.com%2Fforums%2Fnew reply.php%3Fdo%3Dnewreply%26p%3D7594843&title=CA%20Joseph%20Naso%2C%20once%20a%20suspect%2 0in%20NY%20Alphabet%20Murders%2C%20now%20on%20tria l%20in%20California%20-%20Page%205%20-%20Websleuths%20Crime%20Sleuthing%20Community%23po st7596059&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.google.com%2Fnewspapers%3Fid ...larities%26amp%3Bhl%3Den&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13291122536623)

CanManEh
02-13-2012, 02:19 AM
I remember this case .There was another girl from same school that went missing I think her name was Kristen Smart I think they even looked at scott peterson for a little bit .He was going to the same school around or at the time these too disappeared. What ever happend with the One POI Paul Flores ..Its scary to take a look back from the 70's untill even now about how many serial killers were at work at the same times over the years and in the san fran and oakland cali all that area there was so many SK at work.

kemo
02-13-2012, 01:55 PM
Kristen Smart vanished from Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, 250 miles to the south. It has never been officially solved but Law Enforcement and the Smart family believes the Prime Suspect is responsible.

The Prime Suspect, although never prosecuted for this crime, has been hounded relentlessly by the victim’s family and his life has pretty much been a train wreck since the day Kristen disappeared. He has not been implicated in any other crimes of that nature to my knowledge.

mysteriew
02-16-2012, 12:35 AM
This dude is a real control freak IMO



Accused serial killer Joseph Naso insists on representing himself at trial

Joseph Naso, the Reno man accused of killing four women in Northern California between 1977 and 1994, on Friday adamantly asserted his right to represent himself at his trial.
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_19938920

snip...Judge Andrew Sweet said he found Naso mentally capable, literate and fully informed, and therefore able to continue acting as his own attorney.

snip...."I don't want this case to drag on for years. I want to get out of here as soon as I can, this year I hope," Naso said.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Judge-Clears-Joseph-Naso-to-Represent-Self-139405263.html

Naso, 78, told Marin County Superior Court Judge Andrew Sweet he did not want the county public defender’s office involved in his case.

“I will say it loud and clear so everyone hears. I don’t want the public defender replacing me,” Naso said.
http://marinscope.com/articles/2012/02/15/news_pointer/news/doc4f3c22cc8cbc9087102315.txt

mysteriew
02-16-2012, 12:45 AM
Investigators said semen on Roggasch's pantyhose matched Naso's DNA profile, and that Roggasch was strangled with panty hose that contained the DNA of Naso's wife. He also had extensive photos of Parsons in his collection, and he admitted in court that he dated Tafoya.

Naso was identified as the suspect after a 2010 probation search at his Reno home revealed a vast collection of photographs of dead or unconscious women in various states of undress, incriminating writings, sadistic magazines, and diaries describing sex crimes, investigators said. Authorities are still investigating whether he can be linked to additional homicides.

http://www.marinij.com/marinnews/ci_19971885

kemo
02-16-2012, 02:11 PM
Reading up on Naso, I discovered that he has assets of over $1 Million. Initially, he was found to be ineligible for a public Defender because of this money. That was the reason he chose to represent himself; he didn't want to spring for a lawyer.

Now that liens have been placed on his assets, he is eligible. Evidentially he still wants to represent himself but he want access to Resources the PD's office.
Does anyone know where his money came from? From all that I can tell, he has be marginally employed and has gotten by as a "caregiver" for his son and such enterprises as selling at flea markets.

The DNA evidence in two of the murders, along with everything else, seems to have him nailed and his only hope is to get the evidence excluded by challenging the legality of the search. That is something you really need a REAL lawyer to pull off. He has represented himself in shoplifting cases in the past (with limited success) but this is a whole lot different.

LeighAnnR
02-27-2012, 11:46 AM
Kemo,

Naso most likely will have no legal grounds on which to challenge the legality of the search.
He was on felony prob/parole from a CA. crime, and the suspicionless, warrantless searches are (typically) part & parcel of that probation (I say typically, as I have not read Naso's specific conditions of prob/parole) I do recall reading that the brunt of the evidence was found after Naso had been incarcerated, for a violation, and search warrants were executed for his safe deposit box,
He was in NV where the terms of his prob/par were handled by local L.E., as is typical, between jurisdictions. How very fortunate that we had a very astute L.E.O.!

This will shed light on the warrantless searches.
CA Penal Code Section3067 – Subject to Search
a) Any inmate who is eligible for release on parole pursuant to this chapter shall agree in writing to be subject to search or seizure by a parole officer or other peace officer at any time of the day or night, with or without a search warrant and with or without cause."

And, in 2006, the US Sup Ct proffered a decision on this CA case: Suspicionless searches on a parolee/prob. Samson v. California, 547 U.S. 843 (2006)
In Samson, a local LEO decided to search Samson, despite knowing that he was in good standing with his P. Officer. (as confirmed by a radio call)Of course, LEO found crank and the scumbag got 7 years.
The Ct held that suspicionless searches of parolees are lawful under California law.

LinasK
02-29-2012, 08:07 PM
Posted: 11:39 a.m. Wednesday, Feb. 29, 2012
KTVU And Wires
SAN RAFAEL —
The Marin County District Attorney's Office announced Wednesday it would seek the death penalty against accused serial killer Joseph Naso.
Deputy District Attorney Dori Ahana made the announcement at Naso's arraignment in Marin County Superior Court.
Naso, 78, of Reno, re-entered not-guilty pleas to charges that he murdered four Northern California women, two from the Bay Area, between 1977 and 1994.
Naso waived his right to have a trial within 60 days. He said he needs four weeks to prepare a motion to dismiss the charges against him.
Judge Andrew Sweet set March 28 for a status report on that motion and to set a trial date.
Ahana told the judge prosecutors expect the trial to last four months. more at link: http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/prosecutors-seek-death-sentence-accused-serial-kil/nK8Fh/

mysteriew
03-11-2012, 12:38 AM
The photographs showed many women unconscious or appearing dead, including two prostitutes Naso is charged with killing, Pamela Parsons and Tracy Tafoya.

'Who is paying for all of this entertainment?' Naso asked after hours of detailed testimony about the photos.
'This is my private work, my photography. The women have been violated. What happens in a home is sacred and private. The whole thing is disgusting, and I don't see the relevance at all.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085545/Joseph-Naso-trial-Serial-killer-photographer-kept-diary-rapes-images-dead-women.html#ixzz1omPpLui3

So he sees it as entertainment?

mysteriew
03-23-2012, 08:23 PM
A 74-year-old woman who says she was raped in California over 50 years ago by the man accused of the serial "Alphabet Murders" could become a key witness in his trial, but said police at the time treated her as if she were to blame.

snip.....The woman, whose name lacks alliteration, said that on the day she was assaulted, at age 24, she had worked in Oakland and was waiting for a bus to return home when a stranger offered her a ride, which she accepted against her better judgment.

snip...Journals found in Naso's home in Reno, Nevada, detail suspected sexual assaults as far back as the 1950s, according to court documents. In one 1958 instance, he wrote that police told him to "get out of town."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-alphabet-murders-californiabre82m110-20120323,0,7759532.story

Oh and when he used the term "rape" in his journals, he meant that he "scored" he had sex he reportedly said at a hearing.

mysteriew
03-28-2012, 06:54 PM
An accused serial killer fighting a capital case in Marin Superior Court has decided he wants a lawyer after all -- sort of.

Joseph Naso, 78, appeared in court Wednesday with his new "advisory counsel" Michael Marowitz, a veteran San Rafael defense attorney. Naso, who prosecutors say has assets of more than $1 million, had previously refused to hire a lawyer or let the court appoint one.

But he might have changed his mind last month, when prosecutors announced they planned to seek the death penalty against him. Marowitz, as advisory counsel, can help guide Naso but cannot speak on his behalf during the trial.
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20275748/alleged-serial-killer-naso-decides-he-needs-some

LOL the judge is mentioning that he might not let the attorney sit at the defense table during the trial. IMO he will, but it is telling that he is threatening not to.

mysteriew
04-04-2012, 05:57 PM
A Marin County Superior Court judge this morning set a trial date of Nov. 5 for accused serial killer Joseph Naso.

Deputy District Attorney Rosemary Slote estimated that the trial will take four to five months, and said twice as many prosecution witnesses will testify in the trial as in the nine-day preliminary hearing in January.
http://sanrafael.patch.com/articles/accused-serial-killer-joseph-naso-s-trial-set-for-november

IMO this is going to be a very interesting trial

mysteriew
04-21-2012, 10:39 AM
The Marin Independent Journal reports (http://bit.ly/HSgeVX) that 78-year-old Joseph Naso has replaced San Rafael defense attorney Michael Marowitz with Bill Fazio, a former candidate for San Francisco district attorney.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/04/18/state/n091216D19.DTL#ixzz1sgaoZolM

mysteriew
04-27-2012, 11:23 PM
Marin judge says accused serial killer Joseph Naso can view pantyhose evidence
http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_20500032/marin-judge-says-accused-serial-killer-joseph-naso

mysteriew
05-19-2012, 02:07 AM
Serial killer suspect: Cut Marin DA's payroll

Joseph Naso, the accused serial killer on trial in Marin Superior Court, wants to help the county save money, and has jumped into the debate about whether District Attorney Ed Berberian should prosecute so many misdemeanor cases.

snip...."My personal case, which happens to be a felony, but would have been rejected in New York City, Philadelphia, Chicago and even at the San Francisco DA's office, is a good case in point of how many millions in expence (sic) and manpower is costing the county and state," he wrote.
http://www.marinij.com/fairfax/ci_20657480/serial-killer-suspect-cut-marin-das-payroll

I have a proposal, since he is so concerned about saving the county money, why doesn't he just plead guilty? That would save the county a bunch of money!

knownothing
05-27-2012, 04:20 PM
A new article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/may/26/alphabet-murderer

Chilling stuff.

Robin Hood
06-24-2012, 03:26 AM
Some background, mentions his family

http://healdsburg.patch.com/articles/who-is-accused-serial-killer-joe-naso-now-connected-to-healdsburg

mysteriew
08-18-2012, 11:50 PM
Accused serial killer Joseph Naso says he has fired his legal adviser and wants Marin County to pay for a new one.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/08/16/4732495/accused-serial-killer-naso-wants.html#storylink=cpy

Of course it is reported that he has a million dollars in assets, but he wants the state to pay for his legal advisor?

TechWriter797
08-20-2012, 08:07 PM
Does anyone know how he came to have so much money?

LinasK
09-27-2012, 11:05 PM
Posted: 12:29 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 27, 2012 KTVU-AP
SAN RAFAEL, Calif. —
A judge has delayed the serial murder trial of a former photographer charged with the decades-old slayings of four prostitutes, all of whom had matching initials, in Northern California.
The Marin Independent Journal reported that a judge pushed jury selection in the 78-year-old Joseph Naso's trial back to Jan. 14 to give Naso more time to prepare.
Naso is charged with murdering 18-year-old Roxene Roggasch in 1977; 22-year-old Carmen Colon in 1978; 38-year-old Pamela Parsons in 1993 and 31-year-old Tracy Tafoya in 1994.
The Reno, Nev. resident Naso is representing himself in the death penalty case, but was granted a legal adviser to help him.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/joseph-naso-serial-murder-trial-delayed/nSNWp/

wfgodot
06-18-2013, 08:53 AM
Daily Mail:

The 'Double Initial' killer: 79-year-old on trial for murdering 4 women four decades ago whose first and last names started with the same letter (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2343412/Joseph-Naso-Trial-begins-alleged-serial-rapist--jurors-wipe-away-tears-graphic-images-dead-victims.html)

mysteriew
06-18-2013, 12:04 PM
Posted: 12:29 p.m. Thursday, Sept. 27, 2012 KTVU-AP
SAN RAFAEL, Calif. —
A judge has delayed the serial murder trial of a former photographer charged with the decades-old slayings of four prostitutes, all of whom had matching initials, in Northern California.
The Marin Independent Journal reported that a judge pushed jury selection in the 78-year-old Joseph Naso's trial back to Jan. 14 to give Naso more time to prepare.
Naso is charged with murdering 18-year-old Roxene Roggasch in 1977; 22-year-old Carmen Colon in 1978; 38-year-old Pamela Parsons in 1993 and 31-year-old Tracy Tafoya in 1994.
The Reno, Nev. resident Naso is representing himself in the death penalty case, but was granted a legal adviser to help him.
http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/joseph-naso-serial-murder-trial-delayed/nSNWp/

And come Jan., this guy will decide it would be too hard to defend himself and will hire himself an attorney. Who will of course need time to prepare a case. This guy is playing the system.

Cappuccino
08-05-2013, 06:09 PM
This trial started today, and Naso is representing himself....

http://www.theunion.com/news/7580856-113/naso-county-dylan-rape

bessie
08-09-2013, 09:19 PM
Marin: Alleged serial killer Naso hurt by stinging critique of his photography (http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_23820806/marin-alleged-serial-killer-naso-hurt-by-stinging)

By Gary Klien,
Marin Independent JournalPosted: 08/08/2013 07:02:52 AM PDT
...under cross-examination by prosecutor Dori Ahana, Hoyt said he and Naso were never close and that he thought so little of Naso's pictures he didn't even consider him a professional photographer.

"I never heard you complain about my photography," he said. "My work speaks for itself. I've won quite a few blue-ribbon awards. I must have been doing something right."
Even though Naso is representing himself, he told the judge he won't testify. Among the witnesses questioned by Naso today was photographer and sculptor Peter Keresztury.

Naso won't take stand in murder trial (http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Naso-won-t-take-stand-in-murder-trial-4721170.php)

Ellen Huet
Updated 5:26 pm, Friday, August 9, 2013
"When you see a picture of women nude or seminude with their eyes closed and their arms back, do you assume the woman is deceased?" he asked. "Do you think a publisher like Hugh Hefner would publish photos of deceased people? Do you know of any collection of photos titled, 'These are photos of deceased people?' "
Oh my! I'm sure I knew this woman. She was a vagabond who spent time in the French Quarter around 1980, and tried to pass herself off as Dylan's sister.

Alleged serial killer on trial linked to skull found in Nevada County (http://www.theunion.com/news/7580856-113/naso-county-dylan-rape)

Nicole Baptista and Coleen Bidwill
Special to The Union
August 5, 2013
It might have been difficult to find a bigger Bob Dylan fan than Sara Dylan. Not his former wife, but a fan so devoted the woman legally changed her name and hitchhiked worldwide to follow his tours. But for Dylan, born Renee Shapiro, her curtain call came early.
Through the help of her biological mother’s DNA, police in 1998 were able to match her DNA to a skull found in Nevada County. She was last seen alive at a Bob Dylan concert in Hawaii in 1992.

Though Naso will not be formally charged with Dylan’s murder, she is one of many cold cases that authorities across the country revisited after Naso’s arrest. The four women all have both first and last names beginning with the same letter; Dylan is the only link so far that differs.

LinasK
08-20-2013, 09:12 PM
Posted: 2:11 p.m. Tuesday, Aug. 20, 2013 KTVU and AP Wires
SAN RAFAEL, Calif. —
Jurors found Joseph Naso guilty Tuesday of killing four women with double initials in their names in the Bay Area and Yuba County between 1977 and 1994.
Naso, 79, now faces the death penalty.
He pleaded not guilty to four counts of murder and represented himself during the two-month trial with some assistance from the Marin County Public Defender's office.
Naso was arrested in Reno in 2010 after probation officers searched his home in connection with an unrelated gun conviction.nvestigators found numerous photographs of nude women who appeared unconscious and in unnatural positions, laminated obits of some of the victims, a "list of 10" unnamed women that appeared to be a list of murder victims and other evidence.
Naso's DNA was found on one of the victims, 18-year-old Roxene Roggasch, and DNA from his ex-wife was discovered on pantyhose found wrapped around Roggasch. Naso is a suspect in several other unsolved murders.
In addition, prosecutors read numerous entries in a diary allegedly kept by Naso that contained scrawled accounts of approaching women and offering them a ride home.
"Outside the front door I overpowered her and ravaged her," read one entry. "I couldn't help myself."
Other passages described incidents in Cleveland, Kansas City, Buffalo, Rochester, N.Y., Wichita, Kan., and Berkeley, Calif.
Marin County Deputy District Attorney Rosemary Slote called 70 witnesses. Naso called five.<snip>
Even if he is sentenced to death, it is unlikely he would be executed. There are already 725 inmates on Death Row awaiting executions, which a federal judge put on hold in 2006 until the state revamps its capital punishment system.
Naso was charged with killing four prostitutes whose names have double initials: 18-year-old Roggasch in 1977; 22-year-old Carmen Colon in 1978; 38-year-old Pamela Parsons in 1993; and 31-year-old Tracy Tafoya in 1994. more at link: http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/crime-law/jurors-find-naso-guilty-double-initial-serial-kill/nZTg2/

ClaireNC
08-30-2013, 06:21 PM
Possible 6th victim...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/prosecutors-evidence-links-6th-killing-to-former-photographer-convicted-of-4-calif-murders/2013/08/30/556183d2-119d-11e3-a2b3-5e107edf9897_story.html


Prosecutors say new evidence ties 79-year-old Joseph Naso to the killing of Sharileea Patton, whose body was found in Marin County in 1981.

The San Francisco Chronicle article is here, but you need a subscription to read the full article. http://www.sfchronicle.com/news/crime/article/Calif-serial-killer-linked-to-possible-6th-victim-4775044.php

CatFancier
09-18-2013, 10:45 AM
Jury recommends death for convicted Calif serial killer

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/09/17/jury-recommends-death-for-convicted-calif-serial-killer/