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Topsail Girl
12-19-2008, 11:12 AM
http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=6564289
I originally posted this in the general discussion thread but would like it to have it's own thread. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
zelmajane
12-19-2008, 03:19 PM
I just read this on WRAL.
God bless that poor woman.
She has been through enough, and now isn't allowed to see her Grandchild?
There are many studies that prove that families are usually closer on the maternal side (not always the case). I cannot imagine what losing your daughter and not being allowed to see your Granddaughter has done to her. I take it she hasn't seen her aunt either?
raisincharlie
12-19-2008, 06:02 PM
Zelmajane - the number of times Linda Fisher has seen her grandaughter since the murder of Michelle can be counted on one hand.
I have to wonder if Slayer boy will fail to respond to this civil action just as he did for the previous civil action ?
This is going to get very ugly I think.
per_curiam
12-19-2008, 08:11 PM
Maybe Kassie, Jason and Mamma are revving up for that little trip into oblivion. Watch all the wig shops, hair dye aisles, buses, trains and airports. Mamma's probably going underground.
tarheellvr
12-19-2008, 08:30 PM
I expect the ugliness to rear it's head too RC. I'm not sure what I think slayer will do....I feel he won't just "hand her over" without a fight of some sort.
My heart goes out to Linda and Meredith. Keeping Cassidy from them was like a double edged sword in that Cassidy has suffered along with them by slayer and family abruptly trying to end the relationship. What cold/cruel hearted people.....poor, poor Cassidy.
I'm hoping and praying Linda and Meredith will be victorious in court!!
raisincharlie
12-19-2008, 09:01 PM
I expect the ugliness to rear it's head too RC. I'm not sure what I think slayer will do....I feel he won't just "hand her over" without a fight of some sort.
My heart goes out to Linda and Meredith. Keeping Cassidy from them was like a double edged sword in that Cassidy has suffered along with them by slayer and family abruptly trying to end the relationship. What cold/cruel hearted people.....poor, poor Cassidy.
I'm hoping and praying Linda and Meredith will be victorious in court!!
Dunno really either but the track record shows neither Slayer boy or his family are going to say anything that may jeopardize his freedom. Give up Cassidy for continued freedom - I can see that happening. If he cared about Cassidy to begin with, he never would have murdered her Mother and he would have never drugged Cassidy while he was murdering her Mother. JMO
tarheellvr
12-19-2008, 09:06 PM
You're right RC.....the word "freedom" is slayer/family's most important word in their vocabulary.
Yes, I share your opinion and have from the beginning.....he cares little at all for Cassidy. If he had one shed of love in his heart for her he would never have taken her mother from her, ESPECIALLY the horrendous way he did.
pack_fan
12-19-2008, 09:59 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting that the Fishers want Cassidy, but makes me wonder if they have had someone in their ear. Between the civil suit and the custody suit, seems like they are trying to get JY to talk. Don't know much about custody cases but seems like another default judgement could see Cassidy heading east. Not sure how mommy dearest would like that. Who do you protect? This could be a huge development....
jilly
12-19-2008, 11:14 PM
Zelmajane - the number of times Linda Fisher has seen her grandaughter since the murder of Michelle can be counted on one hand.
I have to wonder if Slayer boy will fail to respond to this civil action just as he did for the previous civil action ?
This is going to get very ugly I think.
I think he has to respond RC. I don't think we're going to see all the affidavits as we did in the Cooper case - he'll probably just deny every allegation categorically. At the Hearing he'll most likely take the 5th on many questions.
What will be interesting to me is if he hires Alice Stubbs. Same Judge Sasser. I remember the Sr Smith sitting in on the Cooper case and making some derogatory statements about Brad and he hadn't been charged at that point.
I worry about Linda. That poor woman. I just hope she has something substantial to make a case because if she does Judge Sasser will work with it. Thing is, Cassidy has been with jason for over 2 yrs now.
I don't want to rain on this parade at this point but one thing is for sure. Cassidy may know the truth one day about her mother's murder and she'll know that her maternal grandmother loved her very much!
jilly
12-19-2008, 11:16 PM
Dunno really either but the track record shows neither Slayer boy or his family are going to say anything that may jeopardize his freedom. Give up Cassidy for continued freedom - I can see that happening. If he cared about Cassidy to begin with, he never would have murdered her Mother and he would have never drugged Cassidy while he was murdering her Mother. JMO
Good points.
scandi
12-20-2008, 12:34 AM
Zelmajane - the number of times Linda Fisher has seen her grandaughter since the murder of Michelle can be counted on one hand.
I have to wonder if Slayer boy will fail to respond to this civil action just as he did for the previous civil action ?
This is going to get very ugly I think.
Hi Charlie, :blowkiss: I always thought 'Slayer boy' rather a wimp, and this not responding to the civil action fits right in with that personality. I bet he doesn't respond either. Plus, does he have any $$$?
Bless Linda for this and I so hope Cassidy will go to live now with her Grandma. She would have the same upbringing and love that Michelle had, and believe me, this little cutie pie needs every positive touch in her life that is possible.
I was hoping by now the Grand Jury would have indited Jason. The last time I was here it looked like a good possibility and it had hit the newspapers. I'm just going to have to spend more time here on this thread. Justice for Michelle is so deeply rooted in my heart.
xox
scandi
12-20-2008, 12:40 AM
You're right RC.....the word "freedom" is slayer/family's most important word in their vocabulary.
Yes, I share your opinion and have from the beginning.....he cares little at all for Cassidy. If he had one shed of love in his heart for her he would never have taken her mother from her, ESPECIALLY the horrendous way he did.
Hi Taqrheellvr, Did we learn that Cassidy was given something to make her sleep after the killer left her on the couch {setee}?
I need to go back and read here to catch up, but did we learn anything more about he crime scene and what the investigators think happened? I know the size of the shoe is a concern. Ta xox
Just the Fax
12-20-2008, 07:43 AM
The Slayer is in a pickle for sure.
2-4-09 is D-day .
The clan will study the Brad Cooper saga as a lesson in 'what not to do'.
With the same type of murder, the same DA and the same judge, this is playing out like an encore performance. Remember, Brad was arrested a mere 3 weeks after he ran his mouth in 8 hours of depositions.
If he decides to fight the custody in court 2-4-09, he will need to take the stand and talk...look for an arrest by late Feb 2009
Or, like Brad, he knows he should not talk and could agree to temporary custody for the Fisher's with supervised visits for himself. In that case, the Judge will order the psycho evaluation of the slayer and set a new hearing in 75 days. In the unlikely event he wants to then fight for Cassidy, he must submit to a grueling deposition by the Fisher's top flight law firm.....look for an arrest in April 2009
IMO, the most likely scenario will be an offer to compromise with the Fisher's by offering them joint custody and a court ordered visitation schedule.
Just the Fax
12-20-2008, 07:58 AM
From the Cooper case - "The elephant that sits in the room is that if there is evidence that Mr.Cooper is in any way responsible for his wife's death, that's certainly relevant in the custody case," Sasser concluded."
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3635223/ (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3635223/)
In the end, this argument was key in getting a favorable ruling by Judge Sasser.
She wanted evidence that Brad killed Nancy. Turns out, Wade Smith tried ,but he had little hard evidence to offer at the time other than "the Colin Willoughby train is coming"
On the other hand, Superior Court Judge Donald Stephens has already ruled Jason "The Slayer Young" was responsible for his wife's death. With that fact in hand, maybe her decision will be an easy one after all :boohoo:
Just the Fax
12-20-2008, 08:16 AM
Interesting that the civil complaint was filed in Wake County, rather than Transylvania County where the slayer and Cassidy reside.
The complaint stated he was 'staying' with his sister and mother, yet still owned a townhouse in Wake County.
I think jurisdiction may be an issue he will fight for.
If the case is ultimately heard in Brevard, don't look for a favorable outcome.
§ 50A‑201. Initial child‑custody jurisdiction - referred to in the civil complaint
http://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/bysection/chapter_50a/gs_50a-201.html
§ 50A‑209. Information to be submitted to court detailing residence history
http://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/bysection/chapter_50a/gs_50a-209.html
raisincharlie
12-20-2008, 09:57 AM
Hi Charlie, :blowkiss: I always thought 'Slayer boy' rather a wimp, and this not responding to the civil action fits right in with that personality. I bet he doesn't respond either. Plus, does he have any $$$?
Bless Linda for this and I so hope Cassidy will go to live now with her Grandma. She would have the same upbringing and love that Michelle had, and believe me, this little cutie pie needs every positive touch in her life that is possible.
I was hoping by now the Grand Jury would have indited Jason. The last time I was here it looked like a good possibility and it had hit the newspapers. I'm just going to have to spend more time here on this thread. Justice for Michelle is so deeply rooted in my heart.
xox
Hello Scandi - good to see you :)
As to Slayer boy = wimp boy - I agree and he has proven it over the past two years for sure.
With respect to Cassidy - check the most recently released SWs - LE doe believe there is a possibility that the Slayer attempted to drug Cassidy during the murder. Here's a link to one - the probable cause section explains it.
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2008/11/06/3914018/20081106190923866.pdf
I believe this could be termed child endangerment actually.
sweetmop
12-20-2008, 09:54 PM
Whooo! Linda's really backing the slayer into a corner, isn't she? Good for her!
I don't know what he may do with this lawsuit. It appears as though he values him self above all others, Cassidy included. I don't see him opening his mouth in this either. I guess we'll have to see if he stays true to only Jason!!!
His juvenile,and obscene antics, along with his alley cat morals, really look horrid documented as legal documents for all to see!
Gee, I wonder who his character witnesses will be. Hmmm, I can't think of any that would be willing to vouch for him, that have a decent character themselves!
And once again, JY has made his mama so very proud.
raisincharlie
12-20-2008, 10:25 PM
Whooo! Linda's really backing the slayer into a corner, isn't she? Good for her!
I don't know what he may do with this lawsuit. It appears as though he values him self above all others, Cassidy included. I don't see him opening his mouth in this either. I guess we'll have to see if he stays true to only Jason!!!
His juvenile,and obscene antics, along with his alley cat morals, really look horrid documented as legal documents for all to see!
Gee, I wonder who his character witnesses will be. Hmmm, I can't think of any that would be willing to vouch for him, that have a decent character themselves!
And once again, JY has made his mama so very proud.
I'm sure mommie is proud - :crazy:
We should know mid January if Slayer boy is going to do anything or not. I still say if it is a choice between his freedom and Cassidy - he will serve himself I think. He has done nothing but that for two years, he thought nothing of killing a pregnant woman, why would he think twice about letting Michelle's daughter go ? Can't see mommie wanting him to say a word and jeopardizing himself. If she had a moral compass she would have followed it long ago IMO - this isn't going to give her one. JMO
sweetmop
12-20-2008, 11:33 PM
I'm sure mommie is proud - :crazy:
We should know mid January if Slayer boy is going to do anything or not. I still say if it is a choice between his freedom and Cassidy - he will serve himself I think. He has done nothing but that for two years, he thought nothing of killing a pregnant woman, why would he think twice about letting Michelle's daughter go ? Can't see mommie wanting him to say a word and jeopardizing himself. If she had a moral compass she would have followed it long ago IMO - this isn't going to give her one. JMO
Well, it's a little late for any feelings of the moral side now, huh?
I agree RC, I really can't see Slayer Boy doing anything but staying silent, yet again.
I think he has to respond RC. I don't think we're going to see all the affidavits as we did in the Cooper case - he'll probably just deny every allegation categorically. At the Hearing he'll most likely take the 5th on many questions.
What will be interesting to me is if he hires Alice Stubbs. Same Judge Sasser. I remember the Sr Smith sitting in on the Cooper case and making some derogatory statements about Brad and he hadn't been charged at that point.
I worry about Linda. That poor woman. I just hope she has something substantial to make a case because if she does Judge Sasser will work with it. Thing is, Cassidy has been with jason for over 2 yrs now.
I don't want to rain on this parade at this point but one thing is for sure. Cassidy may know the truth one day about her mother's murder and she'll know that her maternal grandmother loved her very much!
I'm of the understanding Judge Sasser was done with her term in Nov.
Just the Fax
12-21-2008, 11:03 AM
I'm of the understanding Judge Sasser was done with her term in Nov.
Judge Debra Sasser is an active Wake County District Court Judge and signed the seal order on 12-17-08.
The 2-4-09 custody hearing is in her 9-B courtroom at 9am (1 hour scheduled)
tarheellvr
12-21-2008, 12:17 PM
My thoughts and prayers continue to be with Linda and Meredith. A grandmother to a precious angel myself who is Cassidy's age, I would be doing exactly as they are. My heart would break in two if kept away from mine and I would fight to the end of time for our relationship. I completely understand the relationship you have with Cassidy and I know from experience the magnitude of her love for you.
Please know I and many others totally support you in your efforts to get custody of Cassidy. I admire your courage and tenacity. I admire your strength. Most of all, I admire your love and devotion to this little girl who desperately needs you. The Youngs have attempted to dismiss you and Michelle from this precious child's life and believe me, it simply can't be done. The bond she shares with you is unbreakable. This I know to be a fact through my work with estranged families.
I feel confident the court will rule in your favor. You will soon have Cassidy with you, where she has belonged all along since losing her mother at the hands of her father. Please experience some joy this Christmas week as you await you granddaughter. I feel in my heart you will have her soon. Cassidy desperately needs your love and guidance and the court will see this as well.
Please know this grandmother empathizes with you in a tremendous, positive way.
raisincharlie
12-21-2008, 02:07 PM
Well, it's a little late for any feelings of the moral side now, huh?
I agree RC, I really can't see Slayer Boy doing anything but staying silent, yet again.
Keep your eyes peeled to WRAL and WTVD in mid January - he has to file some response within 30 days of being served. It shall be interesting no doubt and I have no doubt if it is possible, the media will post said response, if there is one. :crazy:
SleuthyGal
12-21-2008, 04:35 PM
Do you think it possible that Sasser might opt to keep Cassidy with her paternal grandmother/paternal aunt because she's already been up there the last 2 years (and even though P.Y. did not petition for custody and L.F. did)? Is that one of the things Sasser can do as part of her determination on where Cassidy should live? (I hope not).
Just the Fax
12-21-2008, 05:23 PM
Do you think it possible that Sasser might opt to keep Cassidy with her paternal grandmother/paternal aunt because she's already been up there the last 2 years (and even though P.Y. did not petition for custody and L.F. did)? Is that one of the things Sasser can do as part of her determination on where Cassidy should live? (I hope not).
I think the slayer's strategy may be simple, SleuthyGal
He tells the court he is willing to make Heather and Joe temporary custodial guardians of Cassidy, citing Michelle's will and the fact she has spend nearly 1/2 her life in the Brevard area. He will then agree to a regular visitation schedule for the Fisher's, to include every other weekend, some holidays and an extended summer visit.
I have a feeling the Fisher's may agree to this as long as it is a temporary order. An arrest and conviction will give them another chance to gain permanent custody.
raisincharlie
12-21-2008, 05:33 PM
Do you think it possible that Sasser might opt to keep Cassidy with her paternal grandmother/paternal aunt because she's already been up there the last 2 years (and even though P.Y. did not petition for custody and L.F. did)? Is that one of the things Sasser can do as part of her determination on where Cassidy should live? (I hope not).
I went back and read Judge Sasser's ruling in the Cooper case, in particular her findings of fact, after reading the complaint filed by Linda Fisher once again. It is interesting to see her thought process and what she found of particular value. Slayer boy better be well prepared to present a case is my best guess, provided he responds at all.
SleuthyGal
12-21-2008, 05:43 PM
Thanks JTF.
RC, I think Sasser may look for reasons to not move Cassidy from Brevard since that's where she's been the last 2 years. I agree that temporary custody may go to another relative in JY's orbit, with visitation. I'm having trouble envisioning Sasser ruling to remove Cassidy from Brevard altogether and placed in L.Y's/M.Y's hands, even though I think it would be great for her.
raisincharlie
12-21-2008, 05:59 PM
Thanks JTF.
RC, I think Sasser may look for reasons to not move Cassidy from Brevard since that's where she's been the last 2 years. I agree that temporary custody may go to another relative in JY's orbit, with visitation. I'm having trouble envisioning Sasser ruling to remove Cassidy from Brevard altogether and placed in L.Y's/M.Y's hands, even though I think it would be great for her.
I dunno - perhaps all Linda Fisher has to do to overcome that is to produce some of the disgusting stuff that the fellow Brevardians have plastered on numerous websites. Shows pretty well that what surrounds Cassidy in that environment is not exactly "sane" and gives a good glimpse into why Slayer boy turned out as he is. Its not a pretty picture.
Just the Fax
12-21-2008, 06:08 PM
Thanks JTF.
RC, I think Sasser may look for reasons to not move Cassidy from Brevard since that's where she's been the last 2 years. I agree that temporary custody may go to another relative in JY's orbit, with visitation. I'm having trouble envisioning Sasser ruling to remove Cassidy from Brevard altogether and placed in L.Y's/M.Y's hands, even though I think it would be great for her.
If Brad Cooper had competent family in the Raleigh / Cary area that were close to his girls, I bet Sasser would have ruled differently....kept the girls in Cary, in their school with their familiar surroundings, while allowing extensive visitation with Nancy's family.
I really think there will eventually be a compromise with only a legal visitation schedule for the Fishers.
SleuthyGal
12-22-2008, 06:56 AM
I really think there will eventually be a compromise with only a legal visitation schedule for the Fishers.
That's what I'm thinking too. Timing is everything. Had the Fishers done this 2 years ago they might have won temp custody. Now, 2 years down the road, when Cassidy has been surrounded by the slayer's family and is in a routine in Brevard, it's more difficult since Sasser has to consider what pulling Cassidy away from that extended family will mean for the child. I'm assuming Cassidy loves her grandmother/aunt(s).
Liberal visitation or shared custody may be the most Sasser will do in this case (then again, maybe she'll surprise me).
caffeinatd
12-22-2008, 09:15 AM
If Brad Cooper had competent family in the Raleigh / Cary area that were close to his girls, I bet Sasser would have ruled differently....kept the girls in Cary, in their school with their familiar surroundings, while allowing extensive visitation with Nancy's family.
I really think there will eventually be a compromise with only a legal visitation schedule for the Fishers.
JTF,
If JLY does not respond, do you still think there will only be visitation for Linda?
It seems like you are less optimistic than before, is there a specific reason, or just a gut feeling on Judge Sasser? Thanks
Wow! I totally missed this news the other day. Good for the Fishers.
I hope this is the beginning of the end of Jason Young's life as he knows it! :behindbar Jason, IMO, should NOT be walking free. :mad:
JMHO
fran
Just the Fax
12-22-2008, 10:47 AM
JTF,
If JLY does not respond, do you still think there will only be visitation for Linda?
It seems like you are less optimistic than before, is there a specific reason, or just a gut feeling on Judge Sasser? Thanks
It's hard to say how the judge will respond to the fact he was declared "the slayer" of his wife and Cassidy's mom.
IMO, that is the only thing compelling enough in Linda's suit that will warrant her full removal from Brevard.
We have to think there will be an arrest within the next few months.:waitasec:
Is it more traumatic allowing her to live with the Fisher's or watch her dad being led away in cuffs in a few months ?
At least the first option would be a 'transition' with Young family contact...like Cooper had before his arrest (I also think Sasser was tipped the DA was close to indicting Brad).
She will already be settling in to her new surroundings when the slayer is cuffed and sent to jail.
jilly
12-22-2008, 06:57 PM
If Brad Cooper had competent family in the Raleigh / Cary area that were close to his girls, I bet Sasser would have ruled differently....kept the girls in Cary, in their school with their familiar surroundings, while allowing extensive visitation with Nancy's family.
I really think there will eventually be a compromise with only a legal visitation schedule for the Fishers.
Well....scheduled liberal access would be better than what she's got right now!
Anyway it goes, I think Linda (and Cassidy) will benefit.
caffeinatd
12-22-2008, 10:19 PM
It's hard to say how the judge will respond to the fact he was declared "the slayer" of his wife and Cassidy's mom.
IMO, that is the only thing compelling enough in Linda's suit that will warrant her full removal from Brevard.
We have to think there will be an arrest within the next few months.:waitasec:
Is it more traumatic allowing her to live with the Fisher's or watch her dad being led away in cuffs in a few months ?
At least the first option would be a 'transition' with Young family contact...like Cooper had before his arrest (I also think Sasser was tipped the DA was close to indicting Brad).
She will already be settling in to her new surroundings when the slayer is cuffed and sent to jail.
Thanks, I hope they can at least get court ordered visitation without the Youngs around. I really think Cassidy would benefit from that. I really hope an arrest occurs in January right after his time to answer....heard anything about him leaving the area?:confused:
its possible since they haven't seen each other much that the judge could issue that they have liberal visitation and perhaps a court appointed councilor seeing how they get along together. not necessarily a supervised visit but more just to make sure cassidy is all right with being around them again. then move the custody issue to a later date until cassidy gets use to them again.
scandi
12-30-2008, 03:56 AM
I went back and read Judge Sasser's ruling in the Cooper case, in particular her findings of fact, after reading the complaint filed by Linda Fisher once again. It is interesting to see her thought process and what she found of particular value. Slayer boy better be well prepared to present a case is my best guess, provided he responds at all.
Hi Raisin, I take that as a big 'you don't think so' and am heartened by that thought.
I am hoping that Cassidy is brought up the same way Michelle was which is what Linda and her family can do for her. And I feel quite sure Linda would never keep her from future contact with her other grandma.
Life can sometimes be very complicated in figuring out things like this. To me this seems like a snap ;}
I thought we would have more news by now. xox
raisincharlie
12-30-2008, 09:42 AM
Hi Raisin, I take that as a big 'you don't think so' and am heartened by that thought.
I am hoping that Cassidy is brought up the same way Michelle was which is what Linda and her family can do for her. And I feel quite sure Linda would never keep her from future contact with her other grandma.
Life can sometimes be very complicated in figuring out things like this. To me this seems like a snap ;}
I thought we would have more news by now. xox
Scandi - very good to see you by the way ! :)
I dunno really how this will turn out but am unwilling to just accept it is going nowhere for Linda. First reason being if there is no legal foundation under which to pursue this, the judge would have ruled it out already. So the outcome is not a given IMO. Even if it ends with Linda having specified visitations with Cassidy, it is better than what she has had in the past since Michelle's murder.
Judge Sasser who is overseeing this case is very much an advocate for the children - her findings of fact in the Cooper case make that very plain. NC has some interesting twists in its Slayer Law. Given this combination I don't feel this case will end without some accomplishment on behalf of Linda Fisher and Cassidy.
Slayer boy has 30 days from the date of the filing, which was December 17th, to file a written response. So by mid January we should know if his intention is to fight the case or ignore it. Won't be long now. The initial hearing is set for February 4th - not far off either. What is also obvious to me from reading the filing, more than we know now about Slayer boy will be brought forward should he decide to fight it. One has to wonder if he really wants his family to learn who and what he became when out from under their wings - it does not seem to be a very nice picture.
It accuses him of extramarital affairs, and says he even allowed one woman he was sleeping with to live in his home with Michelle in the month prior to the murder.
I know I'm not as up to speed as others -- who was the woman living with them? I know about the affair with MM but hadn't heard about a different woman. TIA!
Just the Fax
01-04-2009, 09:58 AM
The 30 day deadline to respond to the custody case in Saturday, 1-17-09.
We should know his intentions on Monday, 1-19-09.
Either way, there will be a hearing on the matter 2 1/2 weeks later, on Wednesday 2-4-09.
tarheellvr
01-04-2009, 11:56 AM
What's your opinion JTF....will he respond? I'm on the fence with this.
sweetmop
01-04-2009, 01:09 PM
Well if we take into account his 'history', he won't respond. And that's my belief, that Jason Lynn Young won't respond to the custody case. JMO.
I think Jason cares much more about himself and covering his a** than his little girl.
jilly
01-04-2009, 02:49 PM
Well if we take into account his 'history', he won't respond. And that's my belief, that Jason Lynn Young won't respond to the custody case. JMO.
I think Jason cares much more about himself and covering his a** than his little girl.
Hi Sweet!
I just can't see him not responding.
I think it's also questionable whether the Judge would award custody to Linda simply because the guy doesn't respond. At the very least, I would think that the Judge might order the summons to be served again personally.
I think it would be wonderful if the Judge could give Linda custody of Cassidy based on the Civil Default Judgment but I just don't know.
Since he didn't respond to the civil matter and if he doesn't respond to this, if I was Judge Sasser I'd issue a bench warrant and get jason into Court to answer.
sweetmop
01-04-2009, 04:27 PM
Hi jilly!:blowkiss: Good to see you.
I don't know, I somehow can't visualize him responding... he's such a coward, among other things.:rolleyes:
I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens in the coming weeks.
Just the Fax
01-04-2009, 06:58 PM
What's your opinion JTF....will he respond? I'm on the fence with this.
Happy New Year everyone ! :)
I betcha his attorney is feverishly trying to work out a very liberal visitation schedule that may suit the Fisher's.
The very last thing he wants to do is show up at the custody hearing and open his mouth.
It will be interesting to see if the Fisher's are willing to negotiate at all,
as they want desperately to be a part of Cassidy's life.
I have a feeling this may play out like Brad Cooper....the DA sits back and watches the civil case play out.
With the same judge, the slayer knows what to expect. This will end up being a no win situation for him...period.
I think the Fisher's will get temporary custody during the 2-4-09 hearing.
The slayer will not be deposed or be psychologically analyzed.
IMO, there will be an arrest by the end of February.
Just the Fax
01-14-2009, 10:49 AM
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 JUDGE: SASSER, DEBRA
08-CVD-022018 FISHER,LINDA,L SCHILAWSKI,MICHAEL F.
FISHER,MEREDITH,LYNN SCHILAWSKI,MICHAEL F.
-VS-
YOUNG,JASON,LYNN PRO,SE
Issue to be heard: 1) Plt's Temp. hearing on Child Custody & 2)
Psychological evaluation of defendant.
Estimated time @ 1 hour.
============================================
19 cases on the docket
Pro se legal representation refers to the instance of a person representing himself or herself without a lawyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawyer) in a court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court) proceeding
http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/www/data/WAKE/civil/FEBRUARY.2.2009/D._DEBRA_S__SASSER.9B.9_00.TRIALS.txt
Topsail Girl
01-14-2009, 01:05 PM
No Way!!!!!!!!!!!!! Darn I've checked everyday for an update to the calendar and the ONE day I didn't check!! Thanks JTF!!!! Do you seriously think he's gonna show??
DEPUTYDAWG
01-14-2009, 06:37 PM
Love it. Psych eval.
:clap:
per_curiam
01-14-2009, 08:14 PM
You never know where Jason Young might be planning to REALLY be on that day.
scandi
01-14-2009, 08:29 PM
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 JUDGE: SASSER, DEBRA
08-CVD-022018 FISHER,LINDA,L SCHILAWSKI,MICHAEL F.
FISHER,MEREDITH,LYNN SCHILAWSKI,MICHAEL F.
-VS-
YOUNG,JASON,LYNN PRO,SE
Issue to be heard: 1) Plt's Temp. hearing on Child Custody & 2)
Psychological evaluation of defendant.
Estimated time @ 1 hour.
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19 cases on the docket
Pro se legal representation refers to the instance of a person representing himself or herself without a lawyer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawyer) in a court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court) proceeding
http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/www/data/WAKE/civil/FEBRUARY.2.2009/D._DEBRA_S__SASSER.9B.9_00.TRIALS.txt
Hi Just the Fax, :woohoo::woohoo: and merci beaucoup for that info.
I was just wondering if he couldn't afford a lawyer now as it could be the $$$'s are just not there to afford this big law firm anymore. Looks like he will be representing himself.
Hmmm, Interesting scenario then. I think the psyche e*aluation {the missing letter in that word stopped working today :eek:} will ha*e already been done before the hearing, right? Not sure. But if it has and it shows problems, how will he deal with that representing himself? Haa Haa Haa.
Hi to E*eryone :blowkiss: I know info is often scarce in this case and ha*e been keeping watch here. It'll just be hot and hea*y as news breaks. YaYa
PS: I ne*er realized how many *'s one uses in the English language :rolleyes: XOX
tarheellvr
01-15-2009, 01:02 PM
What's your opinion JTF....will he show?
Just the Fax
01-16-2009, 07:01 AM
What's your opinion JTF....will he show?
His case is scheduled for 1 hour.
There are 17 more cases before Judge Sasser that are scheduled for
a total of 21 hours. There are only 6 1/2 hours in a court day.:waitasec:
Obviously, most of the cases on the docket will be continued.
Will the Fisher's case be one of these ??
http://www1.aoc.state.nc.us/www/data/WAKE/civil/FEBRUARY.2.2009/D._DEBRA_S__SASSER.9B.9_00.TRIALS.txt
wow jy isn't going to have a lawyer for this?!?! what mommy won't pay for a lawyer?
Just the Fax
01-16-2009, 04:26 PM
Jason Young now has until Feb. 17 to respond
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4329772/
per_curiam
01-17-2009, 10:30 AM
Too bad Jason Young's azz isn't where Brad Cooper's is today: stuck to a cold, stainless steel toilet seat or a bunk in the jail cell. I hope they both like runny oatmeal for breakfast.
scandi
01-17-2009, 04:02 PM
Why in the world do they ha*e to set hearings out so far into the future. 3l days to go :confused:
Let's send him an escort http://img46.exs.cx/img46/4271/alligator_walking2.gif, and get this show on the road YaYa
raisincharlie
01-18-2009, 03:13 PM
Someone needs to send copies of all of Jakey's posts where he describes his relationships with Transylvania LE and Judges to Linda Fisher's lawyer. This would work nicely with the fact that the civil actions were sealed so slayer boy wouldn't have advance warning and also why someone other than Transylvania officials were used to serve notice on slayer boy. There is a reason slayer boy wants this moved, his family has friends in Trans Co and have blatantly used those friends to their advantage, a change of venue is just another attempt to manipulate a gross and despicable murderous action by slayer boy.
jilly
01-18-2009, 07:24 PM
Someone needs to send copies of all of Jakey's posts where he describes his relationships with Transylvania LE and Judges to Linda Fisher's lawyer. This would work nicely with the fact that the civil actions were sealed so slayer boy wouldn't have advance warning and also why someone other than Transylvania officials were used to serve notice on slayer boy. There is a reason slayer boy wants this moved, his family has friends in Trans Co and have blatantly used those friends to their advantage, a change of venue is just another attempt to manipulate a gross and despicable murderous action by slayer boy.
Hi RC!:blowkiss: I'd actually forgotten about the sealing of that action and their relationship with Transylvania LE. I hadn't read his posts about Judges:eek: though.
In any case, Linda did know about the LE too because of what was done so she probably knows about the Judges too.
I searched out the lawfirm which Linda has. It appears to be very solid, doing family law only. Seems like Linda is in good hands.
Here's her lawfirm and her lawyers are Schilawski & Hardersen
http://wakefamilylawgroup.com/nc-divorce-lawyers/nc-divorce-attorneys.html
I'm sure you're right about one of the reasons jason wants a change of venue. Another one being, he's probably scared silly now to go back to Raleigh. Lots of support there for Linda. No friends left there for him.
Anyways...rumor has it that Linda has Cassidy this weekend. Sounds like some mediation going on.
My feeling about all this is that Linda will, at the very least, end up with a spelled out visitation schedule with Cassidy. The fact that Linda's daughter, Cassidy's mother is deceased and this will weigh heavily on the Court's decision.
Of course, I'm hoping that Linda will get custody and get Cassidy away from that entire clan but I just don't know. Is there enough with the WD default judgment and Spivey's affidavit?
What do you think?
raisincharlie
01-18-2009, 08:33 PM
Hi RC!:blowkiss: I'd actually forgotten about the sealing of that action and their relationship with Transylvania LE. I hadn't read his posts about Judges:eek: though.
In any case, Linda did know about the LE too because of what was done so she probably knows about the Judges too.
I searched out the lawfirm which Linda has. It appears to be very solid, doing family law only. Seems like Linda is in good hands.
Here's her lawfirm and her lawyers are Schilawski & Hardersen
http://wakefamilylawgroup.com/nc-divorce-lawyers/nc-divorce-attorneys.html
I'm sure you're right about one of the reasons jason wants a change of venue. Another one being, he's probably scared silly now to go back to Raleigh. Lots of support there for Linda. No friends left there for him.
Anyways...rumor has it that Linda has Cassidy this weekend. Sounds like some mediation going on.
My feeling about all this is that Linda will, at the very least, end up with a spelled out visitation schedule with Cassidy. The fact that Linda's daughter, Cassidy's mother is deceased and this will weigh heavily on the Court's decision.
Of course, I'm hoping that Linda will get custody and get Cassidy away from that entire clan but I just don't know. Is there enough with the WD default judgment and Spivey's affidavit?
What do you think?
Hi Jilly :blowkiss:
I really don't know what is gonna happen but I suspect there is some heavy negotiation going on because regardless of where it takes place - no way does Slayer boy want to give a deposition, take a mental eval, or have to take the stand. One thing seems obvious though - Alice Stubbs knows for a fact that Judge Sasser will not be her friend this go round, and then there is Ms. Stubb's proclumation at finding it incredulous that Brad Cooper didn't take the stand to testify. She knows Slayer boy is in the very same sinking boat as the jailed one.
The negotiations, if happening, will end up putting Linda out - as there is no way the clan is going to spend money to take Cassidy to Raleigh or to even meet half way. Anything to inconvenience Linda is what they will try. That's all we need to know. :crazy:
jilly
01-21-2009, 05:48 PM
Hi Jilly :blowkiss:
I really don't know what is gonna happen but I suspect there is some heavy negotiation going on because regardless of where it takes place - no way does Slayer boy want to give a deposition, take a mental eval, or have to take the stand. One thing seems obvious though - Alice Stubbs knows for a fact that Judge Sasser will not be her friend this go round, and then there is Ms. Stubb's proclumation at finding it incredulous that Brad Cooper didn't take the stand to testify. She knows Slayer boy is in the very same sinking boat as the jailed one.
The negotiations, if happening, will end up putting Linda out - as there is no way the clan is going to spend money to take Cassidy to Raleigh or to even meet half way. Anything to inconvenience Linda is what they will try. That's all we need to know. :crazy:
Doesn't sound like there's any negotiation being done - here's the motion for COV
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2009/01/21/4367675/Jan._14,_2009,_motion_to_dismiss_or_remove_for_imp roper_venue.pdf
And the motion for extension, fwiw
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2009/01/21/4367672/Jan_14,_2009,_defendant_motion_for_extension_to_re spond.pdf
raisincharlie
01-22-2009, 10:32 PM
Doesn't sound like there's any negotiation being done - here's the motion for COV
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2009/01/21/4367675/Jan._14,_2009,_motion_to_dismiss_or_remove_for_imp roper_venue.pdf
And the motion for extension, fwiw
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/local/2009/01/21/4367672/Jan_14,_2009,_defendant_motion_for_extension_to_re spond.pdf
Dunno - maybe negotiations isn't the right term - more like bribery since the clan allowed Linda to have Cassidy for a weekend without mommie dearest and Slayer boy.
5bigfish5
01-23-2009, 05:35 PM
Someone needs to send copies of all of Jakey's posts where he describes his relationships with Transylvania LE and Judges to Linda Fisher's lawyer. This would work nicely with the fact that the civil actions were sealed so slayer boy wouldn't have advance warning and also why someone other than Transylvania officials were used to serve notice on slayer boy. There is a reason slayer boy wants this moved, his family has friends in Trans Co and have blatantly used those friends to their advantage, a change of venue is just another attempt to manipulate a gross and despicable murderous action by slayer boy.
Great Idea!
With all the stunts that were pulled early on in this case (even trying to get reporters fired, that so much as hinted at a relationship between Jason and Michelle Money) I have a feeling that the underhanded things that have been done in Transylvania County are well documented.
I certainly hope so, but ya never know.
terminatrixator
01-24-2009, 04:05 PM
Just wanted to say that I am praying for Linda and Cassidy.
scandi
01-31-2009, 01:43 AM
Just wanted to say that I am praying for Linda and Cassidy.
Hi Terminatrixator, Yes, Prayers to make their lives happy ones and to have what is right, be done.
It seems like yesterday that we were watching this mystery unfold. It is taking soooo long, even tho we know it has to be done correctly by the Prosecutor.
Other cases seem to fly, like with Caylee. And then we often see older COLD CASES come to fruition, always thankfully.
Whatever it takes we shall be steadfast in watching Justice come for Michelle and her family. And hopefully little Cassidy, who is growing up into a 'big girl' now, will have the love of her Mommy's family beside her all of the time. That is what I hope for.
XOX
per_curiam
01-31-2009, 09:16 AM
I was so hoping that Jason Slayer of the Young would not be able to watch this year's Super Bowl. Maybe next year.
sweetmop
02-02-2009, 12:19 PM
Just wanted to say that I am praying for Linda and Cassidy.
I keep them in my prayers daily also. It's long, long overdue for happiness to come into the lives of Linda, Meredith, and little Cassidy.
Isn't the custody hearing scheduled for sometime this week now? Do any of you know?
jilly
02-02-2009, 09:33 PM
I keep them in my prayers daily also. It's long, long overdue for happiness to come into the lives of Linda, Meredith, and little Cassidy.
Isn't the custody hearing scheduled for sometime this week now? Do any of you know?
Hi Sweet!:blowkiss: The custody hearing was extended to Feb 17th. jason filed a motion for change of venue which was to be heard this Wed Feb 4th. This has apparently been taken off the docket with no other date set.
No idea what's going on but some of us think they may have settled with Linda getting scheduled visitation. Just a guess.
Gosh, I really hate to see Ms. Stubbs as HIS attorney. She's the same attorney who deposed Brad Cooper in his child custody dispute. She was representing the family in that case and that was before he was arrested for the murder of his wife Nancy.
Seems as if no one knows what's going on. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. :behindbar
I really dislike this waiting game. I hope and want justice for Michelle.
JMHO
fran
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4329772/
jilly
02-03-2009, 06:30 PM
Gosh, I really hate to see Ms. Stubbs as HIS attorney. She's the same attorney who deposed Brad Cooper in his child custody dispute. She was representing the family in that case and that was before he was arrested for the murder of his wife Nancy.
Seems as if no one knows what's going on. Guess we'll just have to wait and see. :behindbar
I really dislike this waiting game. I hope and want justice for Michelle.
JMHO
fran
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4329772/
Hi Fran!:) Apparently Linda has seen Cassidy since she filed this custody suit after being jerked around for months. She's obviously backed jason into a corner with this. Maybe Linda didn't have had a strong case for custody but at the very least I think she would have come out of this with Court ordered visitation. Maybe they're working out a schedule.
Hi Fran!:) Apparently Linda has seen Cassidy since she filed this custody suit after being jerked around for months. She's obviously backed jason into a corner with this. Maybe Linda didn't have had a strong case for custody but at the very least I think she would have come out of this with Court ordered visitation. Maybe they're working out a schedule.
Thanks for the info jilly.
I'm glad Linda is at least getting to see Cassidy. I still think Jason AND his family shouldn't be allowed to have custody of this child. I don't trust any of them.
JMHO
fran
jilly
02-04-2009, 01:22 PM
Thanks for the info jilly.
I'm glad Linda is at least getting to see Cassidy. I still think Jason AND his family shouldn't be allowed to have custody of this child. I don't trust any of them.
JMHO
fran
I sure agree with you there!
Just the Fax
02-06-2009, 06:08 PM
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4487661/ (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4487661/)
Slain woman's husband, sister to share custody of child
Under the child custody consent order filed late Friday afternoon, Linda Fisher's daughter, Meredith Fisher, who lives in Wake County, will have primary custody of the child beginning after an initial five-month transition period, which ends at noon on Aug. 1.
During the transition period, Cassidy will remain in her father's custody with the exception of six visitations with her aunt totaling 37 days.
Jason Young will then have visitation every other weekend, certain times during the holidays, birthdays and summers.
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Cassidy will live with Meredith and attend kindergarden in Wake County :)
raisincharlie
02-06-2009, 07:50 PM
Excellent news. Not surprising that Slayer boy and the clan would sacrifice Cassidy so Slayer boy would not be forced to talk however. Guilty as sin and the whole bunch is morally bankrupt. JMO Bet big sis realizes now that her brother is a Slayer.
Now Mr. Willoughby needs to grow a set.
Thanks for the update, Just the Fax! I am happy to hear that Cassidy will be with Meredith primarily. I hope that Jason will eventually stop exercising his visitation rights and Cassidy will not be exposed to him.
sweetmop
02-06-2009, 11:27 PM
Excellent news. Not surprising that Slayer boy and the clan would sacrifice Cassidy so Slayer boy would not be forced to talk however. Guilty as sin and the whole bunch is morally bankrupt. JMO Bet big sis realizes now that her brother is a Slayer.
Now Mr. Willoughby needs to grow a set.
Yes, this is wonderful news! Cassidy will be so happy with Meredith, and seeing her Grandma Linda!
Bet all of the Brevard HateMongers realize that 'their Slayer boy" is a cold blooded killer too!
sweetmop
02-06-2009, 11:30 PM
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4487661/ (http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4487661/)
Slain woman's husband, sister to share custody of child
Under the child custody consent order filed late Friday afternoon, Linda Fisher's daughter, Meredith Fisher, who lives in Wake County, will have primary custody of the child beginning after an initial five-month transition period, which ends at noon on Aug. 1.
During the transition period, Cassidy will remain in her father's custody with the exception of six visitations with her aunt totaling 37 days.
Jason Young will then have visitation every other weekend, certain times during the holidays, birthdays and summers.
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Cassidy will live with Meredith and attend kindergarden in Wake County :)
Meredith has Primary Custody.:clap: Good for her!
Thanks for sharing this news, JTF.:)
per_curiam
02-07-2009, 09:01 AM
Yes, I saw that news this morning about Meredith Fisher. Very nice. Looks like Jason is going to be tapering off as daddy. He knows what's coming for him.
I hope Kassie remembers Linda and Meredith.
sweetmop
02-07-2009, 11:45 AM
Yes, I saw that news this morning about Meredith Fisher. Very nice. Looks like Jason is going to be tapering off as daddy. He knows what's coming for him.
I hope Kassie remembers Linda and Meredith.
The 'Slayer's story' made the local TV news here too last night and again this morning, with the Slayer's pictures and everything! It aired on WLOS, Asheville NC... which services surrounding areas, including Brevard NC! I'm sure all of Brevard is so excited in making the news again.
I believe that Cassidy will know Linda and Meredith. Those beautiful, special memories are tucked away inside her little mind,she'll remember, and she'll feel so secure and so content being with them.:) Meredith must be thrilled beyond happiness today!
I feel an arrest is close now.
jilly
02-07-2009, 12:11 PM
:woohoo: Sweet!!!! That's what I wanted to hear - all over the news!:Banane10: Too bad it couldn't go National! Boy - jason sure got it wrong about it all going to die down, didn't he!:floorlaugh:
I can take some time and go through the custody Order this weekend. I don't think I've seen such a detailed Order. I don't think it's sunk in yet with me - I have to say, I was very surprised that Meredith got custody because on the face of their petition, I didn't think they had enough. Even when I kept reminding myself of the grilling Brad Cooper got during his deposition, I thought jason would simply take the 5th.
I thought that they might be working out a visitation Order.
I wonder how the Young clan is doing - must be reeling! Suppose they're blaming everything on LE. Whatever! It sure makes it look worse for jason though, in that he consented to this!
snowshuze
02-07-2009, 12:39 PM
Is it so wrong to want to be a fly on the wall at the Young residence? :crazy:
jilly
02-07-2009, 01:19 PM
Is it so wrong to want to be a fly on the wall at the Young residence? :crazy:
Ohhh, I'd pay big money for that!:crazy:
tarheellvr
02-07-2009, 01:40 PM
Yes...there IS a God!!! What wonderful, exceptional news for Cassie, Meredith, and Linda.
Cassidy can now grow up being loved, cherished, and adored. She can get the help she needs to overcome the horrendous challenges thrown at her by her Slayer dad.
How happy I am for Meredith and Linda......but most of all for precious Cassidy!
SleuthyGal
02-07-2009, 07:22 PM
Congrats to the Fisher family...this is such wonderful news!! Finally, FINALLY something positive to happen in this case. The transition makes sense and I sure hope Slayer is arrested soon so that there won't be weekend visits and Cassidy can finally be rid of the evil Brevard clan and in the safe/loving/secure arms of her aunt Meredith and grandma Linda. Hallelujah.
Now...what are we missing?
Oh YEAH....an ARREST!
C'mon Colon!
sweetmop
02-08-2009, 06:25 PM
:woohoo: Sweet!!!! That's what I wanted to hear - all over the news!:Banane10: Too bad it couldn't go National! Boy - jason sure got it wrong about it all going to die down, didn't he!:floorlaugh:
I can take some time and go through the custody Order this weekend. I don't think I've seen such a detailed Order. I don't think it's sunk in yet with me - I have to say, I was very surprised that Meredith got custody because on the face of their petition, I didn't think they had enough. Even when I kept reminding myself of the grilling Brad Cooper got during his deposition, I thought jason would simply take the 5th.
I thought that they might be working out a visitation Order.
I wonder how the Young clan is doing - must be reeling! Suppose they're blaming everything on LE. Whatever! It sure makes it look worse for jason though, in that he consented to this!
Hi jilly! Yes I'm sure 'Mama' and family are shifting the blame all around, any which way, except toward Jason! I'm sure they're all so proud that he once again is making the news, and he may just be on the national networks in a short time, when that arrest happens!:clap:
These latest actions, or rather lack of any action, must surely drive home the cold hard fact that they've all been housing and supporting a cold blooded murderer!
sweetmop
02-08-2009, 06:26 PM
Ohhh, I'd pay big money for that!:crazy:
Oh so would I!:)
scandi
02-08-2009, 09:53 PM
Hi Guys, That is just the BEST news. I always thought if Linda was permanently in Cassidy's life she would be raised like Michelle and Meredith. They both turned out great. Meredith being chosen to be Cassy's permanent caregiver must be a testament to her putting her best foot forward in life and I am so happy about that. I remember when there were posters wondering if she was involved in the death which was just totally :crazy::crazy:
I bet an arrest is on the way too if we can go by that other case you guys have been mentioning.
Surprise, Surprise Slayer. I hope your ear is permanently geared to the coming of a loud knock on your door! YaYa
xxoxx
terminatrixator
02-09-2009, 12:13 PM
My heart feels so much lighter, and I am so grateful at the turn of events. This really truly is such wonderful news for Cassidy, Linda & Meredith.
Bless this family and I hope it won't be much longer before there is Justice for Michelle and Jason is where he belongs.
per_curiam
02-09-2009, 05:00 PM
I wonder if Linda Fisher will move down here to live, or if maybe Meredith would move up to NY? Oh, wait. I don't know if Meredith could move to NY if Jason has to have his visitations. Eventually I hope the only visitations Jason will know of will be the ones he gets from Mamma in prison.
Nevertheless, Linda Fisher and Meredith must be the happiest people on the planet! I'd be getting some really fine security going on around the house if I were Meredith and Linda. What with the killer loose and all...
Just the Fax
02-09-2009, 09:33 PM
2-10-09 is GJ day.
Will the DA finally pull the trigger ?
sweetmop
02-09-2009, 11:32 PM
2-10-09 is GJ day.
Will the DA finally pull the trigger ?
We can hope for that. It's certainly overdue!
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