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FifthEssence
01-05-2009, 03:36 PM
This is the place where you request Astrological help regarding a crime you may be investigating.

Remember to include details:

Date/time/place of Last Seen, date/time/place of Police Report, birth information on key players in the case including the Victim; etc.
Requests should also include a link if applicable, to the thread where the case is being discussed.


Our House Astrologers will review the Forensic Astrology Request Thread at regular intervals, and time permitting, respond to Reader requests.

THANKYOU~


*NOTE regarding personal chart requests:
When the Forum was in it's initial stages, the Core Astros agreed we would not do work on personal charts or requests regarding personal issues. In addition, we would NOT profit as a result of participation on the WS site. **This way, we maintain the focus of our presence and the integrity of the Forum.**

Now, if the passing of your relative is questionable, an unsolved case regarding the events or circumstances leading to his/her end or disappearance, then of course it would be acceptable for any one of the Astrologers to work on your request.

shannon2008
01-05-2009, 10:50 PM
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Hazel Alice Klug
Born: August 22, 1962 (location unknown, whole family in Virginia though)
Missing: May 20, 1986 (23 yrs old) from home in Richmond, Henrico County, Virginia
Time missing between 11:30pm and the next day
Unsure about date/time of police report.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/38dfva.html
http://www.****************.com/cp/cases/k/klug_hazel.html

I would like to see information about this young woman's disappearance.

Love that this forum is here!:clap:

21merc7
01-06-2009, 11:22 AM
While I have many requests (look out lol!) I will start with one. What happened to Madeleine McCann.

The info I have, hope it is correct is:

Born: May 12, 2003 Rothley, Leicester

Missing: May 3, 2007 Praia da Luz, Portugal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6631255.stm
"Mrs McCann found the outside shutter and window to Madeleine's room had been opened and her daughter missing shortly before 2200 local time on Thursday."

Oh, I would love to see any posts on Stacy Peterson, as asked above. Actually, any posts on any cases are fine with me.

Thanks in advance!

luvmygarden
01-06-2009, 04:23 PM
So Sorry for the double post I got a message there was a problem when I hit post and they all posted. Shoot

21merc7
01-07-2009, 08:01 AM
And another one.

Who killed JonBenet Ramsey?

Born: August 6, 1990 Atlanta, GA
DOD: December 25, 1996 Boulder, CO

Estimated TOD between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m., but most speculate between 12 a.m. and 1 a.m. (I think.) Sorry no times for births, don't know how to obtain that information for any case.

TIA!

static
01-07-2009, 09:10 PM
Hello all. I really like this site and am amazed at the accuracy of astrology. I am a novice at it but am intrigued and wanting to know more. I was wondering if anyone can tell if Cindy Anthony is going to commit suicide. I am not sure if that is an appropriate question but if their are any aspects in her chart that point to that what exactly would they be? I am also not sure of her exact birth date time... Thank you so much for having this site.

housemouse
01-07-2009, 09:51 PM
This is my opinion only, static.

From my study of astrology, this isn't possible to forecast. We can see when Cindy might be having a Saturn transit, and feel restricted, or when she is having a Neptune transit, and might feel bewildered and confused, perhaps using alcohol or drugs to escape.

But, there are also other ways Cindy could use these transits. With Saturn, she could "pull herself together", put some structure in her life, and become more disciplined in her actions.

With Neptune, she could develop a deeper faith, find a guru, or go on an ocean voyage to get away from it all.

Astrology, properly practiced, just can't be that definitive about someone's actions. All it can do is forecast the influences on an individual at a certain point in time.

After an event, we can look at these influences, and try to understand them, but we cannot predict, in advance, how an individual will choose to react to these influences.

static
01-07-2009, 10:18 PM
Thank you housemouse that is exactly what I was looking for...I know people are responsible for their own actions...and as a novice, seek to learn the proper way to use astrology. Thanks again :)

indymom77
01-09-2009, 03:17 PM
will any of these requests be answered on this thread? Im really interested to see what is in the charts regarding Stacy Peterson and Madelein Mccan.

FifthEssence
01-09-2009, 03:38 PM
will any of these requests be answered on this thread? Im really interested to see what is in the charts regarding Stacy Peterson and Madelein Mccan.

Hello IndyMom,
Our House Astrologers will review the Forensic Astrology Request Thread at regular intervals and, time permitting, respond to Reader requests.

At such time they will start a new thread titled:
FORENSIC ASYROLOGY: --------case name here.

We're just getting off the ground and organizing everything so I ask for your patience.

We appreciate your interest

Asker
01-09-2009, 05:40 PM
And another one.

Who killed JonBenet Ramsey?

Born: August 6, 1990 Atlanta, GA
DOD: December 25, 1996 Boulder, CO

Estimated TOD between 10 p.m. and 6 a.m., but most speculate between 12 a.m. and 1 a.m. (I think.) Sorry no times for births, don't know how to obtain that information for any case.

TIA!

From Lois Rodden's Astrodatabank web site:

http://www.astrodatabank.com

Birth Name: Jonbenet Ramsey
Birth Date: 8/6/1990 (August 6, 1990)
Birth Time: 01:36 (1:36 AM) EDT (+4:00)
Birth Place: Atlanta, GA
Latitude / Longitude: 33 N 45 / 84 W 23
Rodden Rating / Source: B /Biography

FifthEssence
01-10-2009, 11:24 AM
STACY PETERSON case now has it's own Thread:

FORENSIC ASTROLOGY - Stacy Peterson

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77853

beckaroozie
01-15-2009, 09:17 PM
That's what caught my attention too Soul! Very odd.

FifthEssence
01-16-2009, 12:19 AM
CORRIE L. ANDERSON case now has it's own Thread

FORENSIC ASTROLOGY - Corrie L. Anderson
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78132

majikposhun
01-17-2009, 12:38 PM
I just curious if anyone has done a chart on Natalee? I am baffled with her case and would like to see her charts. If you need the birth info - I will look all of that up for you. Please let me know.

Blessed Be - Brandy

beckaroozie
01-20-2009, 06:26 PM
There's some recent very disturbing info out about a barber named Seitz who died in his home near Milwaukee at age 62 of natural causes. The police discovered masses of child porn in his house, missing posters for several children including Jacob Wetterling, bondage devices, A VIDEO OF JACOB WETTERLING BEFORE HE DISAPPEARED and other sickening things.

He had contacted Wetterling's parents claiming to be a psychic. He told them that Jacob was in heaven. I have his and Jacob's birthdates, and would be interested to see if he is the one responsible for Jacob's (or other boy's) deaths and/or molestations.

Please let me know if this case would be of interest and I'll gather all the info I can on it.

Thanks,
Beck :blowkiss:

Lovejac
01-20-2009, 06:44 PM
There's some recent very disturbing info out about a barber named Seitz who died in his home near Milwaukee at age 62 of natural causes. The police discovered masses of child porn in his house, missing posters for several children including Jacob Wetterling, bondage devices, A VIDEO OF JACOB WETTERLING BEFORE HE DISAPPEARED and other sickening things.

He had contacted Wetterling's parents claiming to be a psychic. He told them that Jacob was in heaven. I have his and Jacob's birthdates, and would be interested to see if he is the one responsible for Jacob's (or other boy's) deaths and/or molestations.

Please let me know if this case would be of interest and I'll gather all the info I can on it.

Thanks,
Beck :blowkiss:

OMG :eek: I haven't heard about this......how awful! And then to contact the parents pretending to be a psychic! Just sick, sick, sick!

It is a shame he died of "natural causes":furious:

beckaroozie
01-20-2009, 08:19 PM
ITA Lovejac. Here's the link if anyone wants to read about it on our forum.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77665&highlight=seitz+barber

beckaroozie
01-24-2009, 08:28 PM
Hi all...if Tuba, Soul, Kait, HM or anyone else who might have a little time, I think this would be a GREAT case to take a look at and see if we can help the family figure out what happened to John Glasgow. There are a lot of timed events, so it should be easier. TES and the ranger service have done a search on Petit Jean Mountain for him, but they didn't find anything. Nobody believes he's actually at that location or ever was.

This case is still relatively fresh (well sort of a little over a year old), but LE says there are absolutely NO clues what happened to John. I've gathered all the pertinent info. Please let me know if you need more. I'm sure you guys will be intrigued with this one as well.

I've clipped, snipped and summarized a lot for expediency-- but there is a ton of background info here: http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/article.aspx?aID=103412.48591.115557&view=all

HERE GOES:

John Glasgow was born October 1, 1962 in Nashville, Arkansas
He was born and educated in Nashville (Howard County), but grew up on a farm about five miles away in the community known as County Line.

Missing person report@ 5:54p.m. 1/28/08 (same day he went missing)



Pre-Disappearance Info:

John Glasgow had been CFO of CDI Contractors for 12 years and "a trusted member of the CDI family for more than 17 years," according to a statement issued by William Clark on Jan. 31. FYI - working as an outside auditor, John uncovered an embezzlement of 1.3M by an employee from CDI, which sent the guy to jail for 10 years in 1997. He then was hired by CDI, and was eventually made CFO.

Friends and relatives describe him as soft-spoken, frugal and fastidious; honest, dependable and loyal; devoted to his wife, stepson and large family; self-sufficient, competitive and adventurous. He loved to travel, and he loved cats. He and his wife lived modestly and well within their means. Their house was paid for, and they had very little debt. John and Melinda were best friends, and he was raising her 12yo son from a previous marriage as his own. From all accounts they had a great marriage.

"John is a very stand-up, good neighbor and a good friend," said Brian Rosenthal, Glasgow's next-door neighbor for more than 12 years.

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The relationship between the management of CDI Contractors LLC of Little Rock and half-owner Dillard's Inc. was under tremendous stress in the days before John Glasgow, CDI's chief financial officer disappeared on Jan. 28.

On Friday, Jan. 18, Melinda Glasgow saw her husband, John, in tears for only the second time in 16 years, after a particularly difficult meeting with Dillard's executives; the first was when his mother died. "He told me, ‘Today has been the worst day of my life.'"

A week later, on Jan. 25, John Glasgow completed a draft of a letter to Dillard's CEO William Dillard II on behalf of William Clark, CEO of CDI since the death in May of his father, company founder Bill Clark. It referred to a meeting that had included Clark, Glasgow, William Dillard and Dillard's CFO James Freeman.

It is reported that John along with some other employees were attempting to purchase CDI shares from the William Clark estate, instead of allowing the full buyout by Dillards. A deal reportedly was nearing completion for purchase of Clark's share of the company by his son (Will Jr) and investors including Glasgow.

________________________________________________TI MELINE


1/27/08 - Sunday evening pm
John and wife attend dinner party across the street at John's older cousin's house. When they got home John fell asleep on the couch with the cat on his lap. Wife went upstairs to bed...last time she saw him. He was gone already the next morning when she got up.


1/28/08 - Monday
Neighbor hears car at 5:10 - 5:15 am - looked out and saw Glasgow's SUV driving east on South Lookout toward Point Circle (toward direction of work). Didn't actually see John driving.

A ping from John's cell phone was recorded on an Alltel tower in Little Rock at 5:15 that morning, Roger Glasgow said, so the family doesn't doubt that Rosenthal saw John leaving home. But he never entered the CDI offices that day, and his car hasn't been spotted on surveillance videos along the route to the office.

About 2:30 that afternoon, Christy Clark, whom John Glasgow had hired as an accountant at CDI and who later married William Clark (CDI Owner), called Melinda to ask where John was. He hadn't come to the office that day and no one was able to reach him on his cell phone.

1/30/08 - Tuesday

By Tuesday investigators knew that the phone had bounced an electronic "ping" off a cellular tower near Petit Jean on Monday, although it had not been used to make any calls since Sunday.

That information quickly led to the discovery early Tuesday afternoon of Glasgow's Volvo. Melinda said that news persuaded her that John would be located in short order. Her worst fear was that he was injured.

Glasgow's Volvo has been forensically examined, and found to contain what Welch categorized as "no fingerprints," indicating that it may have been wiped down before being parked on Petit Jean.

Trained search dogs found no trace of Glasgow's scent leading away from his parked car, or anywhere else on the mountain.
In addition to Glasgow's cell phone and laptop computer, his bank card was found in the car. His wallet and car keys have not been found.

A park ranger at Mather Lodge on Petit Jean told police that Glasgow's car appeared in the parking lot there between noon and 1:30 p.m. on Tuesday.

Here's a photo:

http://i359.photobucket.com/albums/oo38/beckaroozie/JohnsBeautifulFace.jpg

beckaroozie
01-25-2009, 11:30 PM
Hi all -- I've been working on another thread on trying to help figure out who this person is (pseudonym Benjamin Kyle), and there are a lot of guesses and people working very hard to help, but not much by way of results.

BK's story is a sad one and I know he must feel like a toothpick floating in a vast ocean, because he doesn't know who he is or where he's from or even what his life was about before he was found behind a dumpster, beaten to a bloody pulp on 8/31/04.

It's been four years now, and he still doesn't know. He can't get a job, because he can't get a Social Security number, so he's relying on people he met at the medical center and shelters to help him out. I'm sure if you read (or have read) his story you'd want to help him too. Here's a link to the long version of the story: http://savannahnow.com/node/364434

I know we can't come up with a name for him through Forensic Astrology, but I thought maybe you could possibly provide some much needed clues about WHO he is as a person, WHERE he came from, what his OCCUPATION may have been, and HOW he got behind that dumpster in that condition. (and ANYTHING else you can see in the charts)

Is there a way to do a natal chart for him?
DETAILS:

He BELIEVES (says he's very sure because he knows he is exactly 10 years older to the day than Michael Jackson) that his DOB is August 29, 1948 and that he was born and raised in Indianapolis (ha where I am!).

And maybe an event chart and work backwards a little?
DISCOVERY INFO:

The only life he knows started shortly before 7 a.m. Aug. 31, 2004, when a former Burger King manager found Kyle lying next to a Dumpster behind the restaurant on U.S. 17 in Richmond Hill, (Savannah, GA) according to a police report.

Kyle was naked and unresponsive. He was sunburned and covered in bites from fire ants, according to paramedics' reports.

The fast-food manager called police, who labeled the man with no name a "bum" and sent him off in an ambulance, the report stated.

Paramedics took Kyle to St. Joseph's Hospital.

Officers found no clothes, wallet or anything to identify the man. Police told Kyle they found no signs of a crime, but Kyle believes he was mugged.

According to the paramedics' reports, three depressions showed on the right side of Kyle's head, which could have come from blows delivered with a blunt object. The report also indicated Kyle was unconscious but breathing when he was found, and that he was sweaty. Prolonged exposure to the sun had left him blinded.

Paramedics also noted signs of possible neurological problems.

I pray you wonderful AstroSleuths can help this poor man figure out his situation, or at least give the others trying to help him some clues to go on. He's been on Dr. Phil and no relatives or people came forward knowing him. This is a really weird case. Anything you can do would be appreciated.

:blowkiss:

Jaylergirl
01-27-2009, 07:12 PM
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Trenton Duckett, missing from Leesburg, Fl

Trenton J. Duckett -
Birth date: 8/10/2004
Reported Missing: 8/27/2006 at 9:00 PM

Reported missing by his mother, Melinda Marie Duckett, from her Leesburg apartment. Less than 2 weeks after reporting Trenton missing, Melinda commits suicide in her grandparents home.

Melinda -
DOB: 8/14/1985
DOD: 9/08/2006

P.S - I would provide a link to where it was being discussed here on WS, but it has been archived and I can't find it! Would love, love, love any insight for Trenton's & Melinda's charts!

dreamweaver
01-30-2009, 12:55 AM
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Troy Dean Carney: Murdered near Central Point, Or. Sept. 2008

Dod: Sept. 2, 2008, between midnight and 5:00a.m.

Dob: 08/26/1964
Place: Lewiston, Maine
Time: 6:00 p.m., per mom.

Timeline:
Sept. 1, 2008: 1:00p.m. to 2:00 p.m. PST, Troy talked on his cell to his mom for 66 minutes. He planned to leave Sept. 2, go to Portland, OR., were he felt he had a better chance of getting a job.
Sept. 1, 2008: 6:02p.m., PST., Troy is seen on video leaving Pilot Truck Stop.
Sept. 4, 2008: 4:00p.m., a passerby called in about a body in a sleeping bag. Troy was found dead by gunshot.
Sept. 5, 2008: 6:01p.m., PST. His mom is notified of his death.
Death certificate says: Troy's death certificate says death date...Sept 4, 2008.. 4:10pm
Per Lt. Tim Pike, it's because in a homicide case they have to put the date & time he was found
Sept. 5,2008: Three other campsites found near his in that area. Police question all but one of the other campers.
Sept. 6, 2008: Police found a wolverine mask. LE feels this is significant
Sept. 14 ,2008: Troy’s entire campsite area was set on fire. Firemen had a hard time getting to the fire.
LE found this fire highly suspicious.

History:
Troy’s story: He worked as a lumper, traveling with and helping truckers. He loved this job. He had been to every state except Alaska.
He used to live Medford, OR. ten years ago.
Before he arrived in Medford, he was at TA Truck Stop in Troutdale, Or.
He came to Medford to visit friends Aug. 21, 2008. His being there caused some tension.
So, he decided to move to a campsite, near Bear Creek greenway bike path. Daily, he went to Pilot Truck Stop in Central Point, Or.
He showered there, recharged his cell phone and did odd jobs for truckers.
Three other campsites found near his in that area. Police question all but one of the other campers.
LE do not consider Troy's Medford friend a suspect.
Dec. 21, 2008: LE announced that they would continue to work on the case, but they had no new leads.

Troy's family info:
Family info:
Mom, Linda: dob: 6/19/1945, in Masardis, ME
Now living in FL.
Brother, Tracy, dob: 7/02/1967 in Lewiston, ME.
Now living in NH.
Links:
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080906/NEWS/809060305/0/GREENWAY (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080906/NEWS/809060305/0/GREENWAY)
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080906/NEWS07/809060324/0/GREENWAY (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080906/NEWS07/809060324/0/GREENWAY)

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081025/NEWS/810250312/0/GREENWAY (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081025/NEWS/810250312/0/GREENWAY)

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=433181251 (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=433181251)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77714

Thank you for considering Troy Dean Carney's case.

dreamweaver
01-30-2009, 08:44 AM
Hi all -- I've been working on another thread on trying to help figure out who this person is (pseudonym Benjamin Kyle), and there are a lot of guesses and people working very hard to help, but not much by way of results.

BK's story is a sad one and I know he must feel like a toothpick floating in a vast ocean, because he doesn't know who he is or where he's from or even what his life was about before he was found behind a dumpster, beaten to a bloody pulp on 8/31/04.

It's been four years now, and he still doesn't know. He can't get a job, because he can't get a Social Security number, so he's relying on people he met at the medical center and shelters to help him out. I'm sure if you read (or have read) his story you'd want to help him too. Here's a link to the long version of the story: http://savannahnow.com/node/364434

I know we can't come up with a name for him through Forensic Astrology, but I thought maybe you could possibly provide some much needed clues about WHO he is as a person, WHERE he came from, what his OCCUPATION may have been, and HOW he got behind that dumpster in that condition. (and ANYTHING else you can see in the charts)

Is there a way to do a natal chart for him?
DETAILS:

He BELIEVES (says he's very sure because he knows he is exactly 10 years older to the day than Michael Jackson) that his DOB is August 29, 1948 and that he was born and raised in Indianapolis (ha where I am!).

And maybe an event chart and work backwards a little?
DISCOVERY INFO:

The only life he knows started shortly before 7 a.m. Aug. 31, 2004, when a former Burger King manager found Kyle lying next to a Dumpster behind the restaurant on U.S. 17 in Richmond Hill, (Savannah, GA) according to a police report.

Kyle was naked and unresponsive. He was sunburned and covered in bites from fire ants, according to paramedics' reports.

The fast-food manager called police, who labeled the man with no name a "bum" and sent him off in an ambulance, the report stated.

Paramedics took Kyle to St. Joseph's Hospital.

Officers found no clothes, wallet or anything to identify the man. Police told Kyle they found no signs of a crime, but Kyle believes he was mugged.

According to the paramedics' reports, three depressions showed on the right side of Kyle's head, which could have come from blows delivered with a blunt object. The report also indicated Kyle was unconscious but breathing when he was found, and that he was sweaty. Prolonged exposure to the sun had left him blinded.

Paramedics also noted signs of possible neurological problems.

I pray you wonderful AstroSleuths can help this poor man figure out his situation, or at least give the others trying to help him some clues to go on. He's been on Dr. Phil and no relatives or people came forward knowing him. This is a really weird case. Anything you can do would be appreciated.

:blowkiss:
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Just to add in:
*Time discovered: In an interview, Benjaman Kyle said, it was a little after 6:00 a.m. when he was found by a cleaning person at Burger King.
*Damage to his body: Several teeth missing. Unknown if this was from the assault or had been missing already. Mr Kyle did not have access to his hospital records.
**Benjaman Kyle when asked why he came to Richmond Hill, Ga., said, ' came to see the ocean.'
I second 'beckaroozie's' appeal to have Benjaman Kyle's case looked at by the wonderful team of astrologers here.

beckaroozie
01-31-2009, 01:57 AM
Regarding Benjamin Kyle Request --

After speaking with one of our Astro experts, I agree that the DOB provided by Mr. Kyle is unreliable at best, due to the uncertainty of his amnesia. There are so few facts known in the case, and that combined with the uncertain DOB makes it too difficult at this time for this case to be moved forward with the few astrological clues that could be gleaned from the chart that could be done on the discovery of his body. If more details emerge in the case, then maybe we can ask for it to be reviewed at that time.

Thanks so much to all the wonderful AstroSleuths for your time and efforts helping further these cases along. You guys are wonderful.

(((Hugs)))
Beck

dreamweaver
01-31-2009, 03:56 PM
Regarding Benjamin Kyle Request --

After speaking with one of our Astro experts, I agree that the DOB provided by Mr. Kyle is unreliable at best, due to the uncertainty of his amnesia. There are so few facts known in the case, and that combined with the uncertain DOB makes it too difficult at this time for this case to be moved forward with the few astrological clues that could be gleaned from the chart that could be done on the discovery of his body. If more details emerge in the case, then maybe we can ask for it to be reviewed at that time.

Thanks so much to all the wonderful AstroSleuths for your time and efforts helping further these cases along. You guys are wonderful.

(((Hugs)))
Beck
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I understand the lack of dob and other factors re: Mr Kyle.
Is there a possible chart for time he was discovered? Could that kind of chart show WHY he was attacked? Or WHO attacked him?

beckaroozie
01-31-2009, 07:28 PM
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I understand the lack of dob and other factors re: Mr Kyle.
Is there a possible chart for time he was discovered? Could that kind of chart show WHY he was attacked? Or WHO attacked him?

The why could probably be shown, I would imagine...but the WHO is another matter. All you could get from the chart is a vague description of the perp, and that wouldn't really put us on a path to figuring out who it is?? I don't think either chart will give us much to go on right now...but I'm not an astrologer. :)

If I'm wrong, Astros please correct me. If you feel a chart on the discovery could give us some clues, please advise.

Soulscape
01-31-2009, 07:37 PM
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I understand the lack of dob and other factors re: Mr Kyle.
Is there a possible chart for time he was discovered? Could that kind of chart show WHY he was attacked? Or WHO attacked him?



The why could probably be shown, I would imagine...but the WHO is another matter. All you could get from the chart is a vague description of the perp, and that wouldn't really put us on a path to figuring out who it is?? I don't think either chart will give us much to go on right now...but I'm not an astrologer. :)

If I'm wrong, Astros please correct me. If you feel a chart on the discovery could give us some clues, please advise.


Hello Dreamweaver & Beck,

I have looked at the Discovery chart and it is talkative. While it will not tell us who he is or identify the perp, it gives information that is worth considering.

I will post the chart & discuss my observations, hopefully later this evening (but if not, then sometime tomorrow). I don't want to start a Thread on this case because there is really no way the Stars can identify who this Benjamin Kyle really is. The alleged birth date / place of a person who is suffering from amnesia is simply not reliable.

Thanks,
Soulscape

beckaroozie
01-31-2009, 10:38 PM
Thanks so much for your response Soulscape...any input on BK's case would be appreciate I'm sure. We look forward to seeing your thoughts!

((((Hugs))))
Beck

FifthEssence
02-01-2009, 12:58 AM
We've created a New THREAD in conjuction w/ this Request Thread.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/DOGblinking.gif

Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS only - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

The CASE BRIEFINGS THREAD by its nature is simply to provide short astrological synopses to offer some insights in lieu of starting a new Thread about any particular case. Any decision to move a CASE BRIEFING post(s) from the CASE BRIEFINGS THREAD and establish its own Thread will be at the discretion of the Astrologer(s) if and when they determine they are able to devote the time and energy into maintaining a separate thread.

Please continue to make your requests for forensic astrological analysis of cases here in the FORENSIC ASTROLOGY REQUESTS THREAD. Should an Astrologer decide to comment on a case, they will post their intention to do so here in this REQUESTS THREAD so that interested Forum Members will know to check the CASE BRIEFINGS THREAD regarding that case.

curves
02-02-2009, 08:07 AM
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quote=FifthEssence;3129950]This is the place where you request Astrological help regarding a crime you may be investigating.

Remember to include details:

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Requests should also include a link if applicable, to the thread where the case is being discussed.


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Hello,

I was wondering if you could look at Jennifer Kesse's dissapearance?

Jennifer was last seen on the 23rd of Jan 2006 when she walked out of her work place with her boss. After that she spoke to different friends and family members, the last person being her boyfriend Ron Allen, at around 10:00 pm.
Jennifer was reported missing the next day when she did not show up for work and missed her usual morning phone call / text message with her boyfriend - this usually happened early morning before Jennifer got to work.

Jennifer went missing from Orlando, Florida - I'm sorry I don't have the time of the police report.

There is a POI / suspect is Jennifer's case. This POI was caught on camera parking Jennifer's car about 4 hours after she would have left to go to work (many people believe she was abducted on the way to her car). Pictures of the POI can be found at this link:

http://www.findjenniferkesse.com/

Jennifer's dob was the 20th of May, 1981, time is not known unfortunately.

Links to Jennifer's threads at WS:

FL-Jennifer Kesse, 24yo Orlando 1/24/2006 Missing Part # 8 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Thank you so much in advance :blowkiss:

Soulscape
02-02-2009, 09:50 AM
Hello Dreamweaver & Beck,

I have looked at the Discovery chart and it is talkative. While it will not tell us who he is or identify the perp, it gives information that is worth considering.

I will post the chart & discuss my observations, hopefully later this evening (but if not, then sometime tomorrow). I don't want to start a Thread on this case because there is really no way the Stars can identify who this Benjamin Kyle really is. The alleged birth date / place of a person who is suffering from amnesia is simply not reliable.

Thanks,
Soulscape


Hello All,

Obviously, I did not get around to this over the weekend --- got tied up babysitting my adorable 19 month old Grandson!!

Will try to get to it this evening, thanks for your patience!

Love,
Soulscape

beckaroozie
02-02-2009, 10:33 AM
Hi Soul!

Adorable 19-mo-old grandbabies def take prioriity over this!! Glad you got to visit with him/her. My daughter is married, but no grandbabies yet :( They're still in the 'practicing' stage. LOL

Anyway, we look forward to hearing from you later. Have a great day!

Beck

Lovejac
02-02-2009, 04:39 PM
I just read that Boulder police are taking back the JonBenet Ramsey case!

Was curious if any of our super astro's would be interested in reading some charts for insight?

If anyone does, I will take full responsibility of data gathering.

ETA: dob/tob

dreamweaver
02-03-2009, 04:57 PM
Hello All,

Obviously, I did not get around to this over the weekend --- got tied up babysitting my adorable 19 month old Grandson!!

Will try to get to it this evening, thanks for your patience!

Love,
Soulscape
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Soulscape:
Any time you can get to it, is fine with me. Looking forward to it!
I know how it is with adorable grandchildren.
I am a very young great grandma of a 3 yr old and a 7 mth old.
And a grandma of a 27 yr old, 10 yr old and 6 yr old.
They all live nearby. A good thing, most of the time.

Soulscape
02-03-2009, 10:35 PM
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Soulscape:
Any time you can get to it, is fine with me. Looking forward to it!
I know how it is with adorable grandchildren.
I am a very young great grandma of a 3 yr old and a 7 mth old.
And a grandma of a 27 yr old, 10 yr old and 6 yr old.
They all live nearby. A good thing, most of the time.

Hello Dreamweaver,

Congratulations on your being a G-G-ma!!

To All, I am sorry I haven't been able to post lately due to hectic schedule both at work and home. I will post my commentary on the Benjamin Kyle Discovery chart as soon as I can and thank you all in advance for your patience.

Love,
Soulscape

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http://findkellisue.wordpress.com/

Name: Kellisue Ackernecht

Date of Birth: 12/16/1972
Date Missing: 09/30/2008
Age at time of disappearance: 35
City Missing From: Johnstown
State Missing From: New York
Gender: Female
Race: White
Height: 5′10″
Weight: 135lbs
Hair Color: Auburn
Eye Color: Brown

Identifying Characteristics: Wears glasses and a wedding band on her left hand, was last seen wearing tan pants, new white sneakers, and a Rite-Aid apron. She has a patch on her right cheek.

Circumstances of Disappearance: Kellisue was last seen September 30th leaving her job as a shift supervisor at an Amsterdam Rite Aid around 9:45 p.m. She was driving a 10-year-old Saturn sedan. Three hours later, police found the car engulfed in flames a few blocks from her Johnstown home, with no sign of Kellisue. The car was parked in an area neighbors call Frog Hollow, near the Rail Trail. Police said this street wasn’t the usual way Kellisue drove home. The car was completely destroyed by the fire.

Medical Conditions: According to her husband, she takes medication for depression, but stopped taking it before she disappeared.

http://findkellisue.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/kelli222.jpg

Looking to see if any new information can be obtained through an astrologer, this case is very sad.

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02-06-2009, 11:12 PM
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Trenton Duckett, missing from Leesburg, Fl

Trenton J. Duckett -
Birth date: 8/10/2004
Reported Missing: 8/27/2006 at 9:00 PM

Reported missing by his mother, Melinda Marie Duckett, from her Leesburg apartment. Less than 2 weeks after reporting Trenton missing, Melinda commits suicide in her grandparents home.

Melinda -
DOB: 8/14/1985
DOD: 9/08/2006

P.S - I would provide a link to where it was being discussed here on WS, but it has been archived and I can't find it! Would love, love, love any insight for Trenton's & Melinda's charts!



weight 4 lbs 9 oz
Florida Hospital Waterman
Tavares, FL

dreamweaver
02-08-2009, 03:17 PM
Hello Dreamweaver,

Congratulations on your being a G-G-ma!!

To All, I am sorry I haven't been able to post lately due to hectic schedule both at work and home. I will post my commentary on the Benjamin Kyle Discovery chart as soon as I can and thank you all in advance for your patience.

Love,
Soulscape
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Soulscape:
Benjaman Kyle:
Waiting breathlessly!
(well, not really. it might be my cold, but you know what i mean)

Soulscape
02-09-2009, 09:25 PM
I'm beginning a thread on this case: see Forensic Astrology - Durango.

Please bear with me. As much as I would like to spend the bulk of my time working on forensic charts, I have other obligations and responsibilities. I will post as much as I can, when I can.

To those of you still waiting for Benjamin Kyle, God bless you for your patience. I have not forgotten your interest.

Regarding Stacy Peterson, I am encouraged by the recent happenings and appreciate the dedicated Sleuths who posted those updates. I know I still owe you the Drew Takes Off on Motorcycle chart!!

Thanks to All who follow these threads. Your interest and support is hugely appreciated.

Love,
Soulscape

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Good morning, astrologers!

I am looking into the Maura Murray case and would greatly appreciate your help. We seem to have a rash of unsolved murders/disappearances in our area and Maura was the last........

Here are her details:
DOB - May 4, 1982
I believe Maura was born in Mass., but I am not certain.
Last seen February 9, 2004 at 70 Wild Ammonoosuc Rd, Swiftwater, NH. The accident was reported at 7:27 pm by 3 different people, in view of at least two houses, but 16 minutes later Maura was nowhere to be found......and still hasn't been 5 years later. Law enforcement will not release the records to the family, stating that IF something happened, releasing the records COULD compromise prosecution. HUH? :waitasec:

Your guidance is greatly appreciated.

dreamweaver
02-16-2009, 07:21 PM
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Good morning, astrologers!

I am looking into the Maura Murray case and would greatly appreciate your help. We seem to have a rash of unsolved murders/disappearances in our area and Maura was the last........

Here are her details:
DOB - May 4, 1982
I believe Maura was born in Mass., but I am not certain.
Last seen February 9, 2004 at 70 Wild Ammonoosuc Rd, Swiftwater, NH. The accident was reported at 7:27 pm by 3 different people, in view of at least two houses, but 16 minutes later Maura was nowhere to be found......and still hasn't been 5 years later. Law enforcement will not release the records to the family, stating that IF something happened, releasing the records COULD compromise prosecution. HUH? :waitasec:

Your guidance is greatly appreciated.
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http://www.mauramurraymissing.com/
website

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Murray
timeline of events

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/murray_maura.html
more info

http://caledonianrecord.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=43893&TM=55748.75
Latest article 2/9/2009

Snick1946
02-17-2009, 02:16 PM
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Not sure if I am going about this correctly, if not please let me know and I can delete this posting.
There is an active thread elsewhere on this board involving a crime that took place in Omaha Nebraska at sometime between 3:20 and 3:45 PM on March 13, 2008. An older woman who was cleaning was killed as was an 11 year old child who lived in the house. The case is attracting interest again but to my knowledge no one has ever done any reading or astrological analysis on it.
I can probably try to come up with a DOB on the boy, I beleive he was born in June or July 1996 but may be able to do better if I know you need it.
His parents are still devastated, death was by stabbing. Please let me know what you need here or if you cannot help please let me know, thank you.

PS here is a link to the board discussion:

Omaha double murder - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Victims were: Thomas Hunter DOB 6-12-96
Shirlee Sherman DOB 4-7-50

my1smthop
02-17-2009, 04:26 PM
I know that you guys are overwhelmed with research right now and I wanted to let you know what a wonderful job each of you do! Thank God for all of you!

I was wondering if you had the time to do a chart on the missing 3 year old boy from Arkansas? I found this info on him if it is at all helpful--

Dominick Wesley Arceneaux
DOB: Jun 15, 2005 Sex: Male
Missing Date: Feb 10, 2009 Race: White
Age Now: 3 Height: 3'0" (91 cm)
Missing City: CHIDESTER Weight: 38 lbs (17 kg)
Missing State : AR Hair Color: Brown
Missing Country: United States Eye Color: Brown
Case Number: NCMC1115878

Circumstances: The child is missing from 195 Ouachita 332 in Chidester, AR, since 2/10/2009 at 2:00 p.m. The child was wearing a pair of blue jean shorts with red stitching on the pockets.

I can not locate a copy of the police report or find out when the report was actually filed. I did find this link that gives more details reguarding the reports timeline to be around 2:30 pm--http://content.usatoday.net/dist/custom/gci/InsidePage.aspx?cId=baxterbulletin&sParam=30158645.story

Link to threads: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/search.php?searchid=1834160

Thanks for any help you can give.

Love & blessings!!

Salem
02-18-2009, 02:44 AM
With a very heavy heart, I am cancelling my request. Little Dominick has been found. The poor baby was in the lake all this time and surfaced this morning.

Prayers to his family and friends and the sleuths that worked so hard to find info and clues.

Rest in peace little Dom - I'm sure the angels will have lots of Tonka trucks for you to play with.

Salem


I know you Astrosleuths are very busy, but do you think one of you might be able to give us a hand with little Dominick?

DOB: 6/15/2005
POB: Gonzales, LA

Link to the first news report: http://www.ktbs.com/news/3-year-old-Arkansas-boy-missing-25582/

What else will you need? We are trying to get a time of birth and I am looking to see if we can find a copy of the police report.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide on this little boy. LE and FBI are out of leads. They believe (as far as they are telling the public) that this is an abduction. It appears some things maybe a little shady with the local LE, not sure about that, still trying to figure it out.

I will post a link to the thread.

Thank you,

Salem

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my1smthop
02-18-2009, 10:56 AM
I know you Astrosleuths are very busy, but do you think one of you might be able to give us a hand with little Dominick?

DOB: 6/15/2005
POB: Gonzales, LA

Link to the first news report: http://www.ktbs.com/news/3-year-old-Arkansas-boy-missing-25582/

What else will you need? We are trying to get a time of birth and I am looking to see if we can find a copy of the police report.

Thank you for any assistance you can provide on this little boy. LE and FBI are out of leads. They believe (as far as they are telling the public) that this is an abduction. It appears some things maybe a little shady with the local LE, not sure about that, still trying to figure it out.

I will post a link to the thread.

Thank you,

Salem


Thank you sooo much Salem for helping out with this little boy. I live in Arkansas so any extra help I can give just let me know.

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http://www.mauramurraymissing.com/
website

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maura_Murray
timeline of events

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/murray_maura.html
more info

http://caledonianrecord.com/main.asp?SectionID=1&SubSectionID=1&ArticleID=43893&TM=55748.75
Latest article 2/9/2009

dreamweaver - I have read every one of these sites before posting here. I have found no forensic astrology on any of the aforementioned sites, hence my request. Do you have information not posted on these? That is why I was asking our respected astrologers if they could give me any insight into this case.....Maura has been missing for 5 years now. Thanks for your reply.

Salem
02-18-2009, 12:41 PM
my1smthop - you are very welcome. This is a very stange case. I really want Dom to be found.

Iwannaknow - I'm not dreamweaver, so I hope you forgive me for stepping in here, but I believe dreamweaver was just providing links to additional information on Maura's case to help the astrosleuths in finding what they need.

Salem

FifthEssence
02-18-2009, 01:05 PM
We hear you...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/DOGblinking.gif


Our Astros are inundated at this time.

Your requests are being read. It is most unfortunate that sooooo many cases remain unsolved and justice not served.

Know that each case our Astros DO take on requires a lot of time, energy and SERIOUS focus.
It would not be fair to the victim(s) or their families to do a mediocre once over lightly chart and reading.

As time and their schedules allow, more cases will be approached.

Thank you for your understanding.

my1smthop
02-18-2009, 10:42 PM
They found little Dominic's body this morning around 11:30 am in the lake behind his house.:cry:

Here's the link: http://www.todaysthv.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=80329&catid=2

My heart is just breaking! God love this baby boy!:cry:

I'd still like to know what happened.

my1smthop
02-18-2009, 10:44 PM
We hear you...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/DOGblinking.gif


Our Astros are inundated at this time.

Your requests are being read. It is most unfortunate that sooooo many cases remain unsolved and justice not served.

Know that each case our Astros DO take on requires a lot of time, energy and SERIOUS focus.
It would not be fair to the victim(s) or their families to do a mediocre once over lightly chart and reading.

As time and their schedules allow, more cases will be approached.

Thank you for your understanding.

I totally understand and appreciate everything that you guys do! Your WONDERFUL!:clap:

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02-19-2009, 06:01 AM
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dreamweaver - I have read every one of these sites before posting here. I have found no forensic astrology on any of the aforementioned sites, hence my request. Do you have information not posted on these? That is why I was asking our respected astrologers if they could give me any insight into this case.....Maura has been missing for 5 years now. Thanks for your reply.
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IWannaKnow:
Sorry, I was just posting links about Maura Murray case. I do not have any knowledge that forensic astrology chart already done.

dreamweaver
02-19-2009, 06:04 AM
We hear you...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/DOGblinking.gif


Our Astros are inundated at this time.

Your requests are being read. It is most unfortunate that sooooo many cases remain unsolved and justice not served.

Know that each case our Astros DO take on requires a lot of time, energy and SERIOUS focus.
It would not be fair to the victim(s) or their families to do a mediocre once over lightly chart and reading.

As time and their schedules allow, more cases will be approached.

Thank you for your understanding.
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Thanks to all of you for taking your time to be so dedicated.

beckaroozie
02-19-2009, 11:02 PM
--

Dominick Wesley Arceneaux



Sadly, this little boy's body was found in the river near the trailer where he lived. They believe it was a case of accidental drowning.

petresq_algc
02-20-2009, 07:41 AM
I was wondering if our wonderful astros could take a look at charts for Adji Desir. DOB is 10/22/02. He was last seen playing outside by his grandmother on 1/11/09 at 5:15 pm in the farming community Immokalee, FL

http://http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=62497

housemouse
02-21-2009, 02:17 AM
I was wondering if our wonderful astros could take a look at charts for Adji Desir. DOB is 10/22/02. He was last seen playing outside by his grandmother on 1/11/09 at 5:15 pm in the farming community Immokalee, FL

http://http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=62497

OH NO! Not another Florida baby! Will try to take a look as soon as I can. Was he born in Immokalee?

THREAD:http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77918&highlight=Adji+Desir

beckaroozie
02-21-2009, 08:01 AM
He was born in Immokalee House...his family are migrant farm workers, I believe. He's severely developmentally disabled. Can't speak. He can understand Patois (broken French from the islands) to some extent. Just to give you a little information. He does have a thread under 'Missing' on the forum:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77918&highlight=Adji+Desir

PoppieHawk
02-23-2009, 06:01 PM
Hello wonderful Astrologers,
I am totally addicted to this site..love all of the insightful interpretations from you guys!
I am new at posting so forgive me. I am following the caylee case mostly, but I also was wondering if any of the astrologers might be interested in the mysterious Amanda Knox case? She is the american college student accused of murdering her flat mate in perugia Italy - last year. She insists innocence but of course her story doesn't quite add up.. I would love to see a forensic chart on this event .. Is anyone interested? let me know and I'll gather necessary info- thx

dreamweaver
02-25-2009, 03:32 AM
Hello wonderful Astrologers,
I am totally addicted to this site..love all of the insightful interpretations from you guys!
I am new at posting so forgive me. I am following the caylee case mostly, but I also was wondering if any of the astrologers might be interested in the mysterious Amanda Knox case? She is the american college student accused of murdering her flat mate in perugia Italy - last year. She insists innocence but of course her story doesn't quite add up.. I would love to see a forensic chart on this event .. Is anyone interested? let me know and I'll gather necessary info- thx

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PoppieHawK
If you have all the relevant information, please post it. I think the astrologers will work on those requests as they have time and when they are able to do so.

beckaroozie
02-25-2009, 08:05 AM
Hello wonderful Astrologers,
I am totally addicted to this site..love all of the insightful interpretations from you guys!
I am new at posting so forgive me. I am following the caylee case mostly, but I also was wondering if any of the astrologers might be interested in the mysterious Amanda Knox case? She is the american college student accused of murdering her flat mate in perugia Italy - last year. She insists innocence but of course her story doesn't quite add up.. I would love to see a forensic chart on this event .. Is anyone interested? let me know and I'll gather necessary info- thx

I heard about that case Poppie! Quite interesting indeed. Menage a trois, sadism, the works right? One of the 'trois' winds up dead and she winds up in prison? Is that right?

PoppieHawk
02-25-2009, 10:09 AM
I heard about that case Poppie! Quite interesting indeed. Menage a trois, sadism, the works right? One of the 'trois' winds up dead and she winds up in prison? Is that right?


Becka- :clap: Yes! that is the one..only I really don't buy the prosecutors spin on it (dangerouse sex games gone wrong) It really is a fascinating story..horribly tragic though

PoppieHawk
02-25-2009, 10:16 AM
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PoppieHawK
If you have all the relevant information, please post it. I think the astrologers will work on those requests as they have time and when they are able to do so.

Dream,
Thanks for the tip

FifthEssence
02-25-2009, 11:40 AM
Hello wonderful Astrologers,
I am totally addicted to this site..love all of the insightful interpretations from you guys!
I am new at posting so forgive me. I am following the caylee case mostly, but I also was wondering if any of the astrologers might be interested in the mysterious Amanda Knox case? She is the american college student accused of murdering her flat mate in perugia Italy - last year. She insists innocence but of course her story doesn't quite add up.. I would love to see a forensic chart on this event .. Is anyone interested? let me know and I'll gather necessary info- thx

Hello PoppieHawk,
Here's a jumpstart for you.
This is an existing link in the Main Forum regarding this case.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55843&highlight=amanda+knox


Have a look at the first post in this Request thread.

PoppieHawk
02-25-2009, 06:28 PM
Hello PoppieHawk,
Here's a jumpstart for you.
This is an existing link in the Main Forum regarding this case.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55843&highlight=amanda+knox


Have a look at the first post in this Request thread.

Fifth,
Thanks for the info..I meant to tell you - your avatar pic is one the cutest cat expressions I have ever seen, I love it! :gold_star:

beckaroozie
02-25-2009, 08:34 PM
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URGENT REQUEST - Newly missing teen
(Tuba expressed interest on the Missing thread)


AMBER LEEANNE DUBOIS
Ht: 5'5"
Wt: 130
Short medium brown hair - bright blue eyes.
Date of Birth 10/25/1994
Last seen wearing black pants, black hoodie and black sneakers
Last seen 7:10am Feb. 13, 2009 on North Broadway in Escondido, CA - walking toward Escondido HS (believed to have been on west side of street)

At 6:45 a.m., Amber sent four text messages to her grandmother before heading out the door to school.

Thanks!!

beckaroozie
02-26-2009, 02:21 PM
wow thanks so much Soul.

Soulscape
02-27-2009, 12:17 AM
This was no "prank" (a theory on the regular Amber Leeanne Dubois thread). The chart for the Last Seen shows this child was abducted. I will provide a commentary in the CASE BRIEFINGS ONLY thread on this Forum this evening. Perhaps Tuba will lend insight as well.

Thanks,
Soulscape


<quoting myself>

I have posted commentary regarding Amber LeeAnne DuBois on the CASE BRIEFINGS ONLY Thread in this Forum. Please note, I will not be opening a thread on this case.

Thanks,
Soulscape



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Trenton Duckett, missing from Leesburg, Fl

Trenton J. Duckett -
Birth date: 8/10/2004
Reported Missing: 8/27/2006 at 9:00 PM

Reported missing by his mother, Melinda Marie Duckett, from her Leesburg apartment. Less than 2 weeks after reporting Trenton missing, Melinda commits suicide in her grandparents home.

Melinda -
DOB: 8/14/1985
DOD: 9/08/2006

P.S - I would provide a link to where it was being discussed here on WS, but it has been archived and I can't find it! Would love, love, love any insight for Trenton's & Melinda's charts!


ETA-Time of Birth

Trenton John Duckett
Date of Birth August 10, 2004 Time of Birth 1736
weight 4 lbs 9 oz
Florida Hospital Waterman
Tavares FL
Mother's residence Bushnell FL Sumter County fl

rholloway
03-17-2009, 12:43 AM
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Jennifer Wix
Adrianna Wix

Missing from Cross Plains, TN March 24, 2004

Jennifer
DOB: Aug 16, 1982
Sex: Female
Race: White
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Brown
Height: 5'4" (163 cm)
Weight: 130 lbs (59 kg)

Adrianna
Age at time of disappearance: 2
Sex: Female
Race: White
Hair: Brown
Eyes: Blue
Height: 2'0" (61 cm)
Weight: 25 lbs (11 kg)
Missing From:
CROSS PLAINS
TN
United States

http://missingwixchildren.homestead.com/

Police report made March 27, 2004 to Robertson Co. TN Sheriffs Dept. Last seen at the home of boyfriend Joseph Benton.

TN-Jennifer Wix -22 - and Adrianna - 2 missing since 3/27/04 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

dreamweaver
03-20-2009, 03:48 PM
cough.cough. excuse me. uhhh.
I know everyone is swamped with children's forensic astrology charts, as they should be. I do understand that. We want them brought home safely or find where they are and who did it.
I know the astrologers have their own lives, their own families, their own jobs.

But, is there a possibility that the astrologers could rotate an hour per week
spent on a cold case?
Just a suggestion.
I truly realize how busy you all are and what a dedicated job you do.

Pxee
03-23-2009, 05:07 AM
It would mean so much to me to find out any details about the disappearance of my friend and her daughter.

Her name is Kelli Jo Krum (in some files it is spelled "Kellie") her DOB is January 12,1973. I believe she was born in central Florida, Arcadia or Wachula. Her daughter Kelsi Jordan Krum was born in Arcadia,Florida on December 23,1993.
They were last seen on August 11,1994 in Arcadia, Florida (Desoto County). Kelli was packing to move to Sebring,Florida. She had family and prospects there. In the home was found her purse, and open bottle of formula, and all of her possessions were intact.
The last person to see was her cousin James "Jimbo" Ford. He is currently on Florida's death row for the slaying of a Port Charlotte couple in 1997.
It has been nearly 15 years. Any light you can shed on this would be a blessing. There is a group of us who still hope that justice will be served for Kelli and Kelsi. More than anything we would like to see them found and laid to rest. Thank you for your time.




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It would mean so much to me to find out any details about the disappearance of my friend and her daughter.

Her name is Kelli Jo Krum (in some files it is spelled "Kellie") her DOB is January 12,1973. I believe she was born in central Florida, Arcadia or Wachula. Her daughter Kelsi Jordan Krum was born in Arcadia,Florida on December 23,1993.
They were last seen on August 11,1994 in Arcadia, Florida (Desoto County). Kelli was packing to move to Sebring,Florida. She had family and prospects there. In the home was found her purse, and open bottle of formula, and all of her possessions were intact.
The last person to see was her cousin James "Jimbo" Ford. He is currently on Florida's death row for the slaying of a Port Charlotte couple in 1997.
It has been nearly 15 years. Any light you can shed on this would be a blessing. There is a group of us who still hope that justice will be served for Kelli and Kelsi. More than anything we would like to see them found and laid to rest. Thank you for your time.
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A little more information about the case. Timeline.

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03-25-2009, 10:51 PM
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It would mean so much to me to find out any details about the disappearance of my friend and her daughter.

Her name is Kelli Jo Krum (in some files it is spelled "Kellie") her DOB is January 12,1973. I believe she was born in central Florida, Arcadia or Wachula. Her daughter Kelsi Jordan Krum was born in Arcadia,Florida on December 23,1993.
They were last seen on August 11,1994 in Arcadia, Florida (Desoto County). Kelli was packing to move to Sebring,Florida. She had family and prospects there. In the home was found her purse, and open bottle of formula, and all of her possessions were intact.
The last person to see was her cousin James "Jimbo" Ford. He is currently on Florida's death row for the slaying of a Port Charlotte couple in 1997.
It has been nearly 15 years. Any light you can shed on this would be a blessing. There is a group of us who still hope that justice will be served for Kelli and Kelsi. More than anything we would like to see them found and laid to rest. Thank you for your time.


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http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/krum_kelli.html
A little more information about the case. Timeline.


Hello Pxee & Dreamweaver,

I have looked at the Last Seen chart and sadly, it does show death. After 14+ years, I don't know if I can be very helpful as to where your friend and her baby may be located. I will post a chart and commentary on the Case Briefings thread within the next couple days. (Please note I will not be starting a thread on this case.)

Thank you for your patience,
Soulscape

Soulscape
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quote=Pxee;3494009]It would mean so much to me to find out any details about the disappearance of my friend and her daughter.

Her name is Kelli Jo Krum (in some files it is spelled "Kellie") her DOB is January 12,1973. I believe she was born in central Florida, Arcadia or Wachula. Her daughter Kelsi Jordan Krum was born in Arcadia,Florida on December 23,1993.
They were last seen on August 11,1994 in Arcadia, Florida (Desoto County). Kelli was packing to move to Sebring,Florida. She had family and prospects there. In the home was found her purse, and open bottle of formula, and all of her possessions were intact.
The last person to see was her cousin James "Jimbo" Ford. He is currently on Florida's death row for the slaying of a Port Charlotte couple in 1997.
It has been nearly 15 years. Any light you can shed on this would be a blessing. There is a group of us who still hope that justice will be served for Kelli and Kelsi. More than anything we would like to see them found and laid to rest. Thank you for your time.[/quote]


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A little more information about the case. Timeline.


Hello Pxee & Dreamweaver,

I have looked at the Last Seen chart and sadly, it does show death. After 14+ years, I don't know if I can be very helpful as to where your friend and her baby may be located. I will post a chart and commentary on the Case Briefings thread within the next couple days. (Please note I will not be starting a thread on this case.)

Thank you for your patience,
Soulscape


Pxee, Dreamweaver or Anyone Else, would it be possible to provide a date, time and place someone reported Kelli and Kelsi missing to Police and who that "someone" was (e.g., her mother, a sister, etc.)?

If at all possible, I would like to check the Missing Persons Report chart in addition to the Last Seen.

Thanks,
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Annasmom
03-28-2009, 04:59 PM
Someone on Anna Christian Waters' site suggested I consult you to see if you had any insights on her case. She was born Sept. 25, 1967, in San Francisco, California and disappeared Jan. 16, 1973.



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ProudGramma
03-28-2009, 09:32 PM
Someone on Anna Christian Waters' site suggested I consult you to see if you had any insights on her case. She was born Sept. 25, 1967, in San Francisco, California and disappeared Jan. 16, 1973.

This case is being discussed at

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=104

I hope that someone here will take the time to look at this case for Annasmom.

SharetheLight
03-29-2009, 02:57 PM
This forensic astrology is fascinating. Thank you to everyone who is working so hard on these requests.

If you get a chance, any info you may provide on the following case is greatly appreciated, these girls (sisters) seemingly vanished without a trace:

Sheila Mary Lyon: DOB 3-30-62
Katherine Mary Lyon: DOB 3-29-64
They are sisters that disappeared 3-25-75 from Wheaton Plaza in Wheaton MD.

The girls left on foot for Wheaton Plaza sometime between 11:30am-12pm on 3/25/75. They were due back home between 3pm-4pm that day.
Several people saw them at the mall that day. The last time the girls were reportedly seen IN the mall is around 2pm. Two separate neighbors reportedly saw the girls walking toward their (the Lyon) home between 2:30-3:30 on 3/25/75. (the validity of these sightings is in question because they were reported several days after the girls disappeared)
The police were called by John and Mary Lyon (their parents) some time between 7pm-8pm on 3/25/75.

To date, no trace of Sheila or Katherine has been found. The 34th anniversary of their disappearance just passed. This case needs to be solved.

Here is a link to the Sheila and Katherine Lyon forum here on Websleuths:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=97

Thanks
SharetheLight

Annasmom
03-30-2009, 12:33 PM
Someone on Anna Christian Waters' site suggested I consult you to see if you had any insights on her case. She was born Sept. 25, 1967, in San Francisco, California and disappeared Jan. 16, 1973.

I neglected to tell you that I am Anna's mother, as you may have guessed from my screen name. Thank you.



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03-30-2009, 02:11 PM
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quote=Soulscape;3511498]Pxee, Dreamweaver or Anyone Else, would it be possible to provide a date, time and place someone reported Kelli and Kelsi missing to Police and who that "someone" was (e.g., her mother, a sister, etc.)?

If at all possible, I would like to check the Missing Persons Report chart in addition to the Last Seen.

Thanks,
Soulscape

NOTE: go over to the Forensic Astrology - CASE BRIEFING thread for a look at the initial chart
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3511843&postcount=14[/quote]
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Soulscape:
I cannot find details of the initial missing report for Kelli Jo Krum and her baby Kelsi Krum.
I did email the DeSoto, Fl court archives, person, asking for this information.
Hope I get a return email.

dreamweaver
03-31-2009, 10:36 PM
Kellisue Ackernecht: Forensic Astrology request already in.
But, TES says they will be out to search Johnstown,NY area the first week of April. I am wondering if she will be found.




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Hello,
This is my first post, I really am trying to request a forensic reading. I can't figure out how to do it as a fresh thread? Sorry.
Anyways here is my request.
This is a cold case. This is my mother. Mary Badaracco. When missing from Sherman, CT in Aug 1984. Between the 18 th and the 20th of August.

Mothers birthdate is March 11, 1946, born in Danbury ,CT

Her husband /suspect and last person to see her alive. birthdate is April 14,1936 not sure where he was born. CT or NY

My birthdate April 2, 1963, Danbury , CT- 3:30 am
My sisters birthdate March 27,1964, Danbury, CT
My mothers last place seen alive is at her home in Sherman, CT
I give my sisters and mine dates in hopes there will be info in charts to compare to that will help.
I was very close to my mom and know she did not just go missing, and need help in finding her body at this point.
We reported her missing at the State police barracks in Southbury, CT.
Thanking you in advance for any help or guidance you can give.

www.marybadaracco.com

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FifthEssence
04-02-2009, 12:21 AM
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A couple things you all must know and consider when requesting a chart.

Without a specific date/time/place of either LAST SEEN and/or date/time/place of the Missing Person Report taken by Law Enforecment(LE) (and by whom-who called it in), our Astros would have difficulty calculating the correct charts. This information is required in addtion to the date, time and place of birth.

You should to be aware that Forensic Astrology by its nature is extremely black & white, often clearly answering the question "Is the Missing Person Dead or Alive?."

We respectfully advise those Family members or persons close to a case who are requesting insights but don't really want to know the answer, perhaps to spare themselves psychological shock, should refrain from asking the question. There may be details that confirm or negate certain pieces of information you've gathered over time, some findings may bring relief and other aspects may cause distress.

Only you know deep in your heart of hearts if you are prepared and of the mindspace to accept whatever the chart(s) may reveal.
Do give it some thought.


Blessings to all ~

FifthEssence

RhythmicSun
04-02-2009, 01:00 PM
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I understand the lack of dob and other factors re: Mr Kyle.
Is there a possible chart for time he was discovered? Could that kind of chart show WHY he was attacked? Or WHO attacked him?

I am wondering if a time-stamped hospital report and/or a time-stamped police report that was likely filed in this matter can be utilized to work from? Questions such as who was responsible, what were the circumstances of his assault, how far away did he come from, etc.

And even though it would be considered a "synthetic" chart, the birthdate he threw out there might be worth something, however insignificant that might be.

It is interesting that this man has to keep living in limbo without even a temporary SSN number issued so that he can begin to rebuild his life. Records can be transferred so to me it is not a good argument that he can't have a number because he doesn't know who he is. He has skills, he does odd jobs, he can start earning money and being a productive citizen in the eyes of the SSA and the IRS. Approaching retirement/Medicare age he is probably going to start needing medical care of some sort.

I don't think he was retired unless he had independent wealth. He appears to be in his early 50's.

Edit:
I have posted this in the Benjaman Kyle forum to see if anyone there has access to time-stamped material.

ProudGramma
04-02-2009, 01:39 PM
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This case is being discussed at

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=104

I hope that someone here will take the time to look at this case for Annasmom.

Anna's DOB: 9/25/1967
Date of Disapperance: 1/16/1973
Time: Between 2:00 P.M. and 2:20 P.M.
Locatation: From her home located at Halfmoon Bay, CA.

I was able to get this information from the link above.
This little girl has been missing such a long time. I would love to see some answers for this family.

Cubby
04-03-2009, 02:53 AM
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Anna's DOB: 9/25/1967
Date of Disapperance: 1/16/1973
Time: Between 2:00 P.M. and 2:20 P.M.
Locatation: From her home located at Halfmoon Bay, CA.

I was able to get this information from the link above.
This little girl has been missing such a long time. I would love to see some answers for this family.

From Annasmoms site searchingforanna.com The timeline indicated Anna was last seen appx 2:10 by a family friend who dropped by for a visit and saw her in front of the house when he arrived.

Anna's time of birth is 4:44pm

MagicRose99
04-04-2009, 03:45 PM
Anna's DOB: 9/25/1967
Date of Disapperance: 1/16/1973
Time: Between 2:00 P.M. and 2:20 P.M.
Locatation: From her home located at Halfmoon Bay, CA.

I was able to get this information from the link above.
This little girl has been missing such a long time. I would love to see some answers for this family.

Bumping

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Troy's mom
04-06-2009, 07:55 AM
Troy was murdered 220 day's ago..
No arrest... Troy's mom



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beckaroozie
04-07-2009, 02:04 PM
This happened within 5 miles from my home in a neighboring town. It's is a very sad case where a young woman (former missionary) and her 10 yr old stepson were brutally stabbed to death in July, 2006. It’s still unsolved, and I wondered if a couple of charts might help identify some clues. They really need to solve this one, and they are at a standstill.

What LE really needs are some clues as to who the perp is, or might be…location now (or his location in relation to the crime scene), description, age, relation to the victims, motivation, or any other info that might be gleaned on the perp(s) or reason for the murders. They quasi-cleared the husband (supposedly very upstanding Christian), but I don’t know. I found some info on civil suits, and a bankruptcy. I’m not sure if the (2nd) wife or child had insurance policies or not. Anyway – if one (or both) of the Astros could look at the case and maybe give some clues that would be awesome.

Here’s all the info I could find and thanks to all for any clues you can provide:

Victims:

Assuming (Johnson County) Franklin, IN on all POB

Chynna Lynne Dickus - DOB 1/22/80 - Death 7/24/06
(also see www.4chynna.com)
Last seen alive at 1:30 - 1:45 pm on 7/24/06

Blake Michael Dickus - Birth: Feb. 21, 1996
Last seen alive at 1:30 - 1:45 pm on 7/24/06

Death: Both were discovered brutally stabbed (and Blake stabbed & bludgeoned) at around 5 pm on Jul. 24, 2006
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Husband: Stephen S. "Sean" Dickus DOB 8/12/1972

Sean worked mere minutes away from his family's new home in the sleepy, upstart Branigin Creek subdivision. On his lunch break, Sean drove home to spend part of the afternoon with Chynna and his 10-year-old son, Blake. By all accounts, the family had a great time together.

Sean returned to work around 1:45 p.m. (Last Seen Alive), and remained there until the end of his shift at 5 p.m. (Found them when he returned home from work)

_____________snip from article August 2006

Both had been stabbed repeatedly and the boy had been struck with a blunt object, according to autopsy results.

Dickus, 33, told police he found the bodies when he came home that afternoon. Police have ruled him out as a possible suspect following the initial phase of an exhaustive investigation.

"Mr. Dickus has cooperated with us every step of the way," said Franklin Police Chief John Borges in a statement issued Thursday. "At this time, the investigation simply does not point to Mr. Dickus as a potential suspect."
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http://www.4chynna.com/

Chynna was my one and only daughter. She was taken away July 24th, 2006. Chynna, 26 and her stepson Blake, 10 were brutally murdered in their new home. They had just moved in about a month before. And Blake was over for his weekly visit. Little did they know something terrible was going to happen that afternoon? No one heard or saw anything, but someone took Chynna and Blake's life. They were found brutally stabbed to death that afternoon. Who was the last to see them alive? Who killed them?

They were last seen alive around lunch time. From that point on no one could reach her. Blake's grandmother was coming over to pick him up because he was going to go to a movie with his Mother.

America's Most Wanted Info:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=51938

AMW Case info:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=51938

Local Newspaper Article with lots of info:

http://www.4chynna.com/news_dj_20060726.html

Another article from local TV station:

http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=6827349&ClientType=Printable

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/9660161/detail.html

Any info to help solve the mystery of this case would be appreciated.

Cubby
04-09-2009, 12:09 AM
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

A couple things you all must know and consider when requesting a chart.

Without a specific date/time/place of either LAST SEEN and/or date/time/place of the Missing Person Report taken by Law Enforecment(LE) (and by whom-who called it in), our Astros would have difficulty calculating the correct charts. This information is required in addtion to the date, time and place of birth.

You should to be aware that Forensic Astrology by its nature is extremely black & white, often clearly answering the question "Is the Missing Person Dead or Alive?."

We respectfully advise those Family members or persons close to a case who are requesting insights but don't really want to know the answer, perhaps to spare themselves psychological shock, should refrain from asking the question. There may be details that confirm or negate certain pieces of information you've gathered over time, some findings may bring relief and other aspects may cause distress.

Only you know deep in your heart of hearts if you are prepared and of the mindspace to accept whatever the chart(s) may reveal.
Do give it some thought.


Blessings to all ~

FifthEssence



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I appreciate this message as a general message. Respectfully, I think a family member or someone 'close' to a case would take a bit of time reading this forum prior to making a request. Also, as often as we have seen 'family' post here at WS in the unidentified section and cold case sections either after a positve id has been made or while waiting on an id or rule out as difficult as circumstances may be closure, leaving no stone unturned and justice if the end results require it are often more comforting to a family. Especially that 'strangers' cared.

I would hope, if a family member made a request and did not 'remove it' or pull there request out it would be considered as time permits. In certain cases information has been posted here, which family may read even if they are not members of WS. For example, Stacy Petersons children may someday do a search on their mother and come across the information posted here in the FA forum- and that may be very difficult for them to read, but it is posted non the less.

I would especially like to see some kind of priority given to cases such as Anna Waters or other cases which have had enough interest here at WS to warrant an individual forum such as the subforum, feature case, or spot light cases which may come through as requests. I'm not sure how the decision on these requests is made.

Thank you,
Cubby

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04-09-2009, 09:12 AM
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I appreciate this message as a general message. Respectfully, I think a family member or someone 'close' to a case would take a bit of time reading this forum prior to making a request. Also, as often as we have seen 'family' post here at WS in the unidentified section and cold case sections either after a positve id has been made or while waiting on an id or rule out as difficult as circumstances may be closure, leaving no stone unturned and justice if the end results require it are often more comforting to a family. Especially that 'strangers' cared.

I would hope, if a family member made a request and did not 'remove it' or pull there request out it would be considered as time permits. In certain cases information has been posted here, which family may read even if they are not members of WS. For example, Stacy Petersons children may someday do a search on their mother and come across the information posted here in the FA forum- and that may be very difficult for them to read, but it is posted non the less.

I would especially like to see some kind of priority given to cases such as Anna Waters or other cases which have had enough interest here at WS to warrant an individual forum such as the subforum, feature case, or spot light cases which may come through as requests. I'm not sure how the decision on these requests is made.

Thank you,
Cubby

I also believe requests such as Annasmom's should be at least acknowledged with a post. To just ignore... that is sad.

WS should take care of WS first. Perhaps we should express our concerns to Tricia and see if there is anything we can do to make sure our own (WS) members don't get ignored.

FifthEssence
04-09-2009, 08:45 PM
I also believe requests such as Annasmom's should be at least acknowledged with a post. To just ignore... that is sad.

WS should take care of WS first. Perhaps we should express our concerns to Tricia and see if there is anything we can do to make sure our own (WS) members don't get ignored.


If you scroll up to my post # 84, you will see I addressed FAMILY members in the heading.

FifthEssence
04-09-2009, 08:51 PM
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. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

A couple things you all must know and consider when requesting a chart.

Without a specific date/time/place of either LAST SEEN and/or date/time/place of the Missing Person Report taken by Law Enforecment(LE) (and by whom-who called it in), our Astros would have difficulty calculating the correct charts. This information is required in addtion to the date, time and place of birth.

You should to be aware that Forensic Astrology by its nature is extremely black & white, often clearly answering the question "Is the Missing Person Dead or Alive?."

We respectfully advise those Family members or persons close to a case who are requesting insights but don't really want to know the answer, perhaps to spare themselves psychological shock, should refrain from asking the question. There may be details that confirm or negate certain pieces of information you've gathered over time, some findings may bring relief and other aspects may cause distress.

Only you know deep in your heart of hearts if you are prepared and of the mindspace to accept whatever the chart(s) may reveal.
Do give it some thought.


Blessings to all ~

FifthEssence



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You will notice the heading on the attached post is a response to inquiries by 'family' members. As you have probably experienced in other forums within WS, there are many who do not read previous posts and jump right in on whatever page is current. Such members may not notice "cautionary" posts such as this one, so we must keep cautioning you:

IF a 'family' member who has already made a request on this Thread is prepared to hear whatever the charts reveal and our interpretation thereof, please confirm by PM and/ or by posting confirmation on this Requests Thread.

We cannot assume a family member is well aware of how poignant and direct our findings may be.

Our assessment of the sensitivity and potential psychological fragility of a 'family' member who is directly requesting details is an essential part of our decision whether or not to accept a case for forensic astrological analysis: we must ascertain state of mind and ability of the 'family' member to 'receive' point blank (and often harsh) information.

If we concur that the 'family' member requesting information may be emotionally and/or psychologically devastated and/or damaged by chart revelations, we simply will decline to address the chart. No exceptions. No explanations. It is our call.

With regard to a 'priority' system in this Astro Forum, you will please consider we have 5 Core 'seasoned' Astrologers carrying this forum since June '08 who 'volunteer their time' to assist in these cases. We, like you, have family and job responsibilities that don't allow us to sit online 24 hr a day.

When we do have a few moments of breathing time, we do take a look at other cases as noted in our Case Briefings Thread, wherein we chart and discuss a case to give perspective only and an idea as to what may have occurred, or a few factors that stand out and reflect on a direction investigators may take.

Our Core team takes Astrology quite seriously and is most respectful of the science. This is not a pay-per-click or drive-thru forum. There are many 'free' sites on the net that provide Natal (personal) charts but none I am aware of that do Forensic Horary Astrology. This 'discipline' is incredibly time consuming and exhausting to the practitioners as it requires absolute 'focus' beyond what some may 'think'. If anyone reading this post thinks all the Astrologer needs is an hour or so to browse through case facts, cast a chart, examine it, make a judgment and then post commentary, let me disabuse you of that notion right now.

Forensic horary astrology is a specialized area of astrology that requires a thorough understanding of many other astrological areas before exercising one's understandings. Think about a Cardiologist or Brain Surgeon, many years of study, internship, practicing and additional years of study prior to effectively working in a specialized field. Our Astrologers do not take this science lightly nor will they abuse the tools provided.

I am not aware of any forum within WS where any member or participant is 'required' to respond or work on a particular case. Response or lack thereof to any request made on this Thread is voluntary and solely at the discretion of the individual Core Astrologers. Believe me, we are doing our best to handle what is in front of us in hopes of providing useful clues and observations in an effort to help solve these cases. It is an impossible task as well as unfair to expect us to handle every request and/or make everyone happy.

Thank you for your respect and understanding.

Blessings to ALL,
FifthEssence

Trisha (owner of WS) has generously allowed a platform for Astrology within the site.
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Cubby
04-10-2009, 12:30 AM
I appreciate your above reply Fifth Essense, I really do. I am going to try and say this nicely because I don't want the tone to be taken as pissy and I know that tone can often be misinterpreted online without the ability to hear inflection.

I appreciate and commend you for your concerns and your wish to not offer any pain, if such might be shown from a chart. I also completely understand your comment about not assuming a family member has read other posts. I'll comment additionally on that in that I believe that is an unfortunate misconception here at WS. Particularly because of cases such as Casey/Caylee Anthony where when a newer member jumps in with a question, those who have followed the case closely and found time to read every single post verbally post their complaints about a question having already been answered. I can assure you and others, that is not common in other forums, particularly those which are not as emotionally intense. In many other cases an oldie will happily bump or answer a question to save new eyes from spending a great deal of time researching something which has been eliminated. I can also say, at least for Anna Waters case, MANY theory's have been suggested some include a deceased Anna. In fact, there have been some Jane Does suggested that Annas mom has so kindly answered our questions- even commenting her family saw that particular Jane and thought she resembled Anna so they were discussed. Some Theories which family disagrees on, and those closest to the case disgree on however we can all disgree and continue the main goal, finding Anna.

Myself, I don't expect new eyes to read every post, in some cases, as you mentioned we don't have time to be here 24/7 so it is impossible to read every post..... Nor would I expect the Astro's here to read every thread and every post in Anna's forum before deciding on and reading a chart. It would be unrealistic for any of us to ask that.....

As for WS expecting people to read or reply to any particular case, no of course not. But Trisha was kind enough to allow all of us to utilize her forum. The family's which participate do not have to be here at WS, there are many other forums they can chose but they chose WS. Mod's and admin make the decisions here at WS as to which cases warrant more than a thread based on the interest in that case. My suggestion to prioritize requests made based on cases which draw the most interest here at WS was just that. There are numerous threads here in the Astro forum for Caylee/Casey and Haleigh, certainly 'hot cases' and the suggestion was merely to follow along those lines and how the mods/admin here have chosen which cases/area's of WS require their own forum-based on member interest. I hope that makes sense, it was not meant to poke at anyone, simply to go with WS as WS exists and has grown.

I'll eagerly await a reply as well as a reply from Annasmom. I'll respect the requirment, though I may not agree with it.

Thank you,
Cubby

Cubby
04-10-2009, 12:42 AM
If we concur that the 'family' member requesting information may be emotionally and/or psychologically devastated and/or damaged by chart revelations, we simply will decline to address the chart. No exceptions. No explanations. It is our call.

I have to address this comment as well. While I appreciate your concern, I think it is somewhat - not sure of the right word, but having been a member of WS for as many years as I have, I know the mods have had to remove the membership of family who has been unable to participate here at WS. Many family members of the missing have been members here at WS for several years and have followed the rules, tos etc. Management has NOT felt the need remove them from WS and I think ultimately that decision is for Tricia and the admin. We here work under them, and to work outside of the decisions they have made just doesn't work with how WS works and has worked and grown for years.

A triple check, ok, I guess I just don't understand why it is different here within the body of this forum as opposed to everywhere else on WS. Particularly the seperation of threads and forums outside of the three designated for family support and information only.



Thanks,

moo
Cubby

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IF a 'family' member who has already made a request on this Thread is prepared to hear whatever the charts reveal and our interpretation thereof, please confirm by PM and/ or by posting confirmation on this Requests Thread.

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Thank you for making us aware of this. I am certain that Annasmom is very aware of the consequences of a reading like this, and probably, like anyone else, might be just a little frightened. However, Annasmom has been looking for many years for answers regarding her daughter's disappearence, and has had to deal with many opinions, and search as if her daughter might be alive, and other times as if her daughter is deceased.

Of course we all want to do this properly and certainly we appreciate all that you do here. Please forgive us if we seem impatient, we certainly don't mean any ill feelings.

After reading this, we will leave it to Annasmom to PM you, FifthEssence, if she still wants this reading.

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04-10-2009, 10:05 AM
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the 36 years since my daughter disappeared, it has been suggested to me that she was taken by a sexual predator, drowned in a creek, was taken by someone who wanted a child to raise, that she fell down a well, was buried under a compost pile, was eaten by wild animals, is still alive and well in Mexico, Europe, several of the United States, and that she was abducted by aliens.

I seriously doubt that any suggestion about Anna's fate would shock or distress me more than some of these suggestions. Since I myself made the request for a reading, it should be obvious that I want the information, whether or not I will accept it as the final word on the subject. I would especially like to know whether a mysterious old man who influenced her father had anything to do with her disappearance.

Anna Christian Waters was born at 4:44 P.M. September 25, 1967 and disappeared early afternoon on January 16, 1973.

housemouse
04-10-2009, 11:59 AM
In the 36 years since my daughter disappeared, it has been suggested to me that she was taken by a sexual predator, drowned in a creek, was taken by someone who wanted a child to raise, that she fell down a well, was buried under a compost pile, was eaten by wild animals, is still alive and well in Mexico, Europe, several of the United States, and that she was abducted by aliens.

I seriously doubt that any suggestion about Anna's fate would shock or distress me more than some of these suggestions. Since I myself made the request for a reading, it should be obvious that I want the information, whether or not I will accept it as the final word on the subject. I would especially like to know whether a mysterious old man who influenced her father had anything to do with her disappearance.

Anna Christian Waters was born at 4:44 P.M. September 25, 1967 and disappeared early afternoon on January 16, 1973.




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Annasmom, I know your distress. My daughter died at 21, suddenly and unexpectedly, in a city far from home. We still do not know exactly why, because she had been given a clean bill of health by her cardiologist several weeks before.

I will do my best to look at Anna's chart. The methods I use are not as good as Soulscape's for this kind of work, but will give it a try. It will take me some time, as today is a physical therapy day for my husband (Parkinson's), and that takes a big chunk of time out of the day.

Could you save me some time, and tell me where she was born, and where she disappeared? I am going back in the thread to search for these details in the meantime.

P.S. Never mind, went back and found it quickly.

Annasmom
04-10-2009, 12:26 PM
Annasmom, I know your distress. My daughter died at 21, suddenly and unexpectedly, in a city far from home. We still do not know exactly why, because she had been given a clean bill of health by her cardiologist several weeks before.

I will do my best to look at Anna's chart. The methods I use are not as good as Soulscape's for this kind of work, but will give it a try. It will take me some time, as today is a physical therapy day for my husband (Parkinson's), and that takes a big chunk of time out of the day.

Could you save me some time, and tell me where she was born, and where she disappeared? I am going back in the thread to search for these details in the meantime.

P.S. Never mind, went back and found it quickly.

Thank you, Housemouse. I grieve for you in the loss of your daughter. Physical therapy is such a good thing; I hope it is helpful. Sorry; I thought I included Anna's place of birth (San Francisco, California) and the place she disappeared from (seven miles south of Half Moon Bay, California.)

housemouse
04-10-2009, 12:55 PM
Am printing out the charts, and sending them to the other astrologers, Annasmom. I hope we can help, but please know that we can only "see through a glass darkly", and not all cases are as clear as Casey Anthony's.



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Cubby
04-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Anna disappeared from Purisima Creek road in rural Half Moon Bay( just outside of the actual city limits I believe). We have an address but do not post it because someone currently resides at that address. If the address will help, I will find it and pm it



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Khaki_Pants
04-10-2009, 02:49 PM
What about the mysterious man? Do the astros need info on him?

Cubby
04-10-2009, 03:18 PM
FWIW, we don't have much info on the mysterious man, other than is date of death and what we believe is his real name. We've never found an accurate DOB.

Thank you house mouse for running the charts! I really hope this provides us with some additional information/direction in our search for Anna. We greive with you too on the loss of your daughter, my son and I will say a prayer for her.

would any other family info dob be helpful?

I am running out too but will be back later.


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Annasmom
04-10-2009, 03:48 PM
Anna disappeared from Purisima Creek road in rural Half Moon Bay( just outside of the actual city limits I believe). We have an address but do not post it because someone currently resides at that address. If the address will help, I will find it and pm it.

I got the approximate coordinates from GoogleEarth:

37 degrees25'53.07N
122 degrees22'57.72"W
elevation 113

These are approximate because the person currently residing at that address has had all the images blocked on Google. I didn't know you could do that, but she did.

Annasmom
04-10-2009, 03:51 PM
What about the mysterious man? Do the astros need info on him? We have not been able to ascertain ANYTHING whatsoever on this man except for the date he died, and even that is open to some question, since Anna's father signed the death certificate. No birth date or year, no SS number, nothing. All we have is a few photographs, a handwriting analysis, and the family's recalled conversations. He claimed to be a Leo



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Troy's mom
04-12-2009, 02:52 PM
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A couple things you all must know and consider when requesting a chart.

Without a specific date/time/place of either LAST SEEN and/or date/time/place of the Missing Person Report taken by Law Enforcement(LE) (and by whom-who called it in), our Astros would have difficulty calculating the correct charts. This information is required in addition to the date, time and place of birth.

You should to be aware that Forensic Astrology by its nature is extremely black & white, often clearly answering the question "Is the Missing Person Dead or Alive?."

We respectfully advise those Family members or persons close to a case who are requesting insights but don't really want to know the answer, perhaps to spare themselves psychological shock, should refrain from asking the question. There may be details that confirm or negate certain pieces of information you've gathered over time, some findings may bring relief and other aspects may cause distress.

Only you know deep in your heart of hearts if you are prepared and of the mindspace to accept whatever the chart(s) may reveal.
Do give it some thought.


Blessings to all ~

FifthEssence

Hi FifthEssence.
it is ok to post Troy's reading.. Troy's info post #23
At this point I am ready for anything..
Linda W.. Troy's mom thanks you....







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FifthEssence
04-12-2009, 02:59 PM
Hi FifthEssence.
it is ok to post Troy's reading.. Troy's info post #23
At this point I am ready for anything..
Linda W.. Troy's mom thanks you....


I understand. Thank you for your confirmation.
Prayers go out to you.

FifthEssence
04-12-2009, 04:18 PM
We hear you all. Our Core Astrologers work as a group on each of the cases.

It's impossible to satisfy all the requests. We would love to but there just aren't enough hours in a day to do so.

Know that we do the best that we can with the available time we have outside of our families and job responsibilities.

Thank you for your understanding.

FifthEssence
04-15-2009, 04:47 AM
In the 36 years since my daughter disappeared, it has been suggested to me that she was taken by a sexual predator, drowned in a creek, was taken by someone who wanted a child to raise, that she fell down a well, was buried under a compost pile, was eaten by wild animals, is still alive and well in Mexico, Europe, several of the United States, and that she was abducted by aliens.

I seriously doubt that any suggestion about Anna's fate would shock or distress me more than some of these suggestions. Since I myself made the request for a reading, it should be obvious that I want the information, whether or not I will accept it as the final word on the subject. I would especially like to know whether a mysterious old man who influenced her father had anything to do with her disappearance.

Anna Christian Waters was born at 4:44 P.M. September 25, 1967 and disappeared early afternoon on January 16, 1973.

You will find several posts in the Astrology - CASE BRIEFINGS Thread for Anna
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3608738&postcount=20
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3613509&postcount=22
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3615743&postcount=24
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3627493&postcount=26
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3628713&postcount=28

Snick1946
04-15-2009, 03:47 PM
Please see post #43 in this thread.
What if any are the chances of someone looking at this case? An eleven year old child was murdered and the perp is still out there.
Many thanks.


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FifthEssence
04-18-2009, 09:17 PM
Are we allowed to discuss the charts in the Case briefing thread or do we discuss them here?

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jnTexas
04-19-2009, 11:11 AM
Has there been a chart done on sabrina Aisenburg the 5 month old out of florida? they had her case of 48 hours hard evidence late last night. I just wonder if her chart shows her as alive or dead. I hold out hope someone took her to raise as their own. she has a thread in the cold case forum, but i couldn't find a chart on her.

Kat
04-19-2009, 11:44 AM
http://www.marvelcreations.com/sabri1.html


Sabrina's Information

Date of Birth: 6-27-97

Missing from: Valrico, Florida

Circumstances: Sabrina was taken from her residence in Valrico, Florida between 12:00 am and 6:30 am on November 24,1997.
http://karisable.com/sabrina.htm


Nov. 24, 1997, at 6:42 AM, a call to 911, placed by a mother reported her 5 month old infant, Sabrina, was missing. Marlene Aisenberg claimed she and her husband, Steve put the infant in her crib at 11 o'clock the prior evening and awoke the next morning to find an empty crib.



I can't locate the DOB's for her parents Steve and Marlene right away, perhaps someone else has those dates or can find them.

Thanks for posting her jnTexas, I have always wondered if my thoughts on family involvement were correct or not.

FifthEssence
04-20-2009, 12:57 PM
We hear you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/DOGblinking.gif


Our Astros are inundated at this time.

Your requests are being read. It is most unfortunate that sooooo many cases remain unsolved and justice not served.

Know that each case our Astros DO take on requires a lot of time, energy and SERIOUS focus.
It would not be fair to the victim(s) or their families to do a mediocre once over lightly chart and reading.

As time and schedules allow, more cases will be approached.

Thank you for your understanding.

passionflower
04-21-2009, 09:51 PM
Has anyone asked for chart on the CRAIGSLIST KILLER?
Philip Marcoff, a 22-year




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04-21-2009, 10:01 PM
Has anyone asked for chart on the CRAIGSLIST KILLER?
Philip Marcoff, a 22-year

Passionflower, I was searching online just today trying to find his date of birth. He was born in 'Upstate NY.' I am interested in looking at his chart if you (or anyone) can find it.

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dreamweaver
04-21-2009, 10:08 PM
http://www.marvelcreations.com/sabri1.html


http://karisable.com/sabrina.htm



I can't locate the DOB's for her parents Steve and Marlene right away, perhaps someone else has those dates or can find them.

Thanks for posting her jnTexas, I have always wondered if my thoughts on family involvement were correct or not.
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DOB: for mom and dad
Marlene Aisenberg: MOM
Dob: 10/03/1962

Steve Aisenberg: DAD.
Dob: 09/14/1963

Monica: sister
Age 4, 1997
William: brother
Age 8, 1997
http://www.sptimes.com/News/91099/news_pf/TampaBay/People_involved_.shtml

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quote=Soulscape;3642790]Passionflower, I was searching online just today trying to find his date of birth. He was born in 'Upstate NY.' I am interested in looking at his chart if you (or anyone) can find it.

Thanks,
Soulscape[/quote]
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Just missed their wedding online site. Now closed.

Philip Haynes Markoff is a Boston University School of Medicine medical student who lives in Quincy, Massachusetts. He is originally from Sherrill, New York.

http://celebrity.rightpundits.com/?p=5874
still working on dob

Soulscape
04-22-2009, 11:04 AM
Off forum astrologer S.A. Hopkins has found Markoff's birth data and given commentary at his web site.

Philip Markoff, accused murderer, was born on February 12th, 1986 (according the the Boston municipal court criminal complaint). His Moon is Aries, Mercury in Pisces (3°) square Mars and Saturn in Sagittarius , Venus in Aquarius (29°) conjunct Jupiter (28°) and the Sun (23°). Remember the aspects on the April 14th? There was a Mars / Uranus conjunction (early morning on the 15th) and the Moon was in Sag squaring both on the 14th. That’s when he allegedly murdered “masseusse” Julissa Brisman.


Read more from S.A. Hopkins here: http://astrologic.us/


I'll take a look at the chart and post to Case Briefings within the next day or two. In the meantime, if anyone can track down Julissa Brisman's DOB and time of death, I would appreciate it. Julissa is the masseuse practitioner found hit in head and shot (to death) at Boston Marriott Copley Hotel (Boston MA) on April 14, 2009.



Thanks,
Soulscape




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Still looking for time of death but here is what I could find so far:

http://www.bpdnews.com/2009/04/update_16.html


On Tuesday April 14, 2009, at approximately 10:13pm, officers from District 4 responded to a report of an unconscious female at the Copley Marriott Hotel at 110 Huntington Ave. Upon arrival, hotel security updated the police that the unconscious female may have been the victim of an assault, possibly a stabbing. Officers observed Ms. Brisman suffering from what was determined to be multiple gunshot wounds to the torso.

Members of the Boston Fire Department administered CPR and EMS then rushed her to BMC where she was soon pronounced as a result of her injuries.



ETA: The first link incorrectly reported what was said on above website, I went to source to double check, found the mistake and corrected it.

Kat
04-22-2009, 11:30 AM
Still looking for date of birth but I see she identifies herself as a Taurus

Zodiac: Taurus (Apr 20 - May 20)


http://www.myspaceprofiles.org/profiles/44788462.html

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04-22-2009, 12:20 PM
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Still looking for time of death but here is what I could find so far:

http://www.bpdnews.com/2009/04/update_16.html




ETA: The first link incorrectly reported what was said on above website, I went to source to double check, found the mistake and corrected it.


Good work, Kat!! The same source you provided in your post above also gives timing on a previous attack, allegedly made by the same person:

On April 10, 2009, at approximately 12:46am, officers responded to a robbery in progress at the Westin Hotel at 10 Huntington Ave. Officers received a report from a 29 year old female victim that she was robbed at gunpoint in her hotel room.


This now gives us two specific dates/times/locations for comparison with Markoff's chart, and TIA to anyone who may be able to provide birth data on victim, Julissa Brisman.

Thanks,
Soulscape

degirl
04-22-2009, 01:30 PM
Julissa is coming up with a birthdate of 04/24/1983 on a public records search. They aren't always so accurate, but the date comes up with 4 different addresses for her so I think its pretty good.

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quote=Kat;3645058]Still looking for date of birth but I see she identifies herself as a Taurus

Zodiac: Taurus (Apr 20 - May 20)


http://www.myspaceprofiles.org/profiles/44788462.html[/quote]


Julissa is coming up with a birthdate of 04/24/1983 on a public records search. They aren't always so accurate, but the date comes up with 4 different addresses for her so I think its pretty good.


Degirl, the date you found would give a Taurus SUN as Kat tracked down. Boston news source gives victim's age as 26. If 4/24/83 is correct, Julissa would have turned 26 this coming Friday (4/24/09) and would have been age 25 on the DOD.

Can we get confirmation this is the correct DOB?

Thank you,
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Salem
04-22-2009, 02:12 PM
If I can come up with a birth date and other info on Kristen Smart, would it be possible to do a chart on her with an emphasis on her location? I am in a position where I could search for Kristen, if I had a general direction to go in. I do believe she is still near the university.

Thanks,

Salem

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04-22-2009, 03:35 PM
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I would like to know if anyone would do a chart for my son who I think may have the astroid 'Purpura' that is also in Cantu's chart tied to his chart.
Because I have no official police report on file and do not want one at this time, local and state law enforcement will not take me serious. If this chart ties to 'Purpura' or shows sexual assault, I will contact Tracy police.



Dear Groovytown,
I am confused by your question. Am not sure what you are asking.
Do you live in the Tracy area and/or has your son had contact w/ Melissa H. ? If this is the case, I would suggest you contact the Tracy Police immediately with your concerns.


In the larger scale of the 'ring', my child may have been abused several years ago. I may have a name that would help in the investigation (if I can see if it is proven through astrology that my child was sexually abused)

I previously emailed Trish on 4/16/09




Groovytown,

Please provide your son's date, time and location (city & state) of birth as well as the date(s), time frame(s) and location of the suspected abuse.

Keep in mind the astrology cannot 'prove' sexual molestation. What it can do is show whether there is 'natal promise' of such a potential manifestation in your son's chart and whether that 'natal promise' may have been 'triggered' during a particular time frame.

If you suspected your son had been abused, why did you not report it?

Thanks,
Soulscape



The reason I did not report it was because I told myself she worked at a church; and said my son had been at church with her; and that he had eaten scrambled eggs with lots of ketchup. Call me naive back then, Sandra Cantu has been my eye opening, with the thought in the back of my mind all these years. The reason I am trying to find out if this is true especially now, is I found out the 'friend' works in a large church nursery to date.

I really do not want to post his personal information here for everyone to see so will post it then take it down after a few minutes.

(personal removed by FifthEssence)




At your request, I have removed you son's personal info.
In what city did this possible 'incident' occur?
Are you speaking about something involving Melissa H? or someone else you know in the Tracy area who works at a church nursery?

The church is located where my child was born and the incident may have occurred which is not in California.


I believe the ring may be bigger than Tracy; and where my child was born (which you have) could tie to it (and is where the church was located). It is out of state that the church would be located.

I would like to go over this with you to be sure we understand what you are saying.

1. Did the possible incident occur in the city your son was born in? (info was removed as you requested) If not, please give us the name of the city and the approx time frame on the date you provided earlier in which something may have happened.

2. So you are saying Melissa herself was NOT in contact with your son? correct?

3. Does your inquiry come because you are making an association with molestors using the 'church'' as their cover and way to have access to vulnerable children?

Groovytown
04-22-2009, 05:24 PM
1. The name of the city where my child was born was where her church was located that she said she was at with him. Sorry, all I have on my calendar for that day was that my child spent the night. I do however have the friends sons birthdate.


2. It was not Melissa that was with my child.

3. The inquiry comes because the husband does not live here, but traveled and ties to different states. The last name is the same that has ties to the P in California. I believe that something may have happened to my child but I put it out of my mind because it was a female church school teacher.


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FifthEssence
04-22-2009, 06:19 PM
1. The name of the city where my child was born was where her church was located that she said she was at with him. Sorry, all I have on my calendar for that day was that my child spent the night. I do however have the friends sons birthdate.


2. It was not Melissa that was with my child.

3. The inquiry comes because the husband does not live here, but traveled and ties to different states. The last name is the same that has ties to the P in California. I believe that something may have happened to my child but I put it out of my mind because it was a female church school teacher.


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terminatrixator
04-23-2009, 09:57 PM
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Articles just released, Janet's husband has been arrested for her MURDER

WS Thread: Durham police have charged Raven Abaroa with murder in the April 2005 death of his wi - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6947025/
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On Sunday it will be the 4-year anniversary of Janet Marie Christiansen Abaroa and her unborn child brutal murder. In Memory of Janet and her unborn Child and in hopes of Justice for Janet, I gathered some information in hopes that someone would be willing to perhaps do a chart on this case.

This year, April 26 - May 2nd is National Crime Victims' Rights Week and I am frustrated, angry and very sad that an arrest has not been made. POI or Suspect of the case is abundantly evident, however, it's a CE case and any help would be so welcomed. Thank you so much in advance just for reading this very long post.

If anyone has any questions, please feel free to post here, or send me a private message and I will do whatever I can to track it down.

If anyone sees anything that needs correcting, please send me a pm so I can correct it.

Sincerely,
Trix
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Janet was murdered in her Durham, NC home, while her 6-month old son, Kaiden slept in his crib in his room. At the time of the crime she was married to Raven Samuel Abaroa (Peters) who was under indictment for embezzlement.

The case had been a featured case here at WS since almost immediately after the murder. Here is the entire section on Websleuths:

Janet Abaroa, Durham, NC - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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Janet Marie Christiansen (Abaroa)
Born June 19th, 1979 (born between 6:30 - 9:30 am via scheduled c-section)

Hospital: Alexandria Hospital
4320 Seminary Road
Alexandria, VA 22304

Murdered: April 26, 2005 - Between the hours of 7:15 - 10:55
2606 Ferrand Drive
Durham, NC

Janet's Family: Parents Janet and Val Christiansen. Siblings, Dena, Brad, Valanie, Sonja, Krista, Erika, Richard and Mark. Janet was preceded in death by her older sister, Gaynelle, who passed in February, 1982 to Leukemia.

Janet married Raven Samuel Abaroa on August 4, 2000 at the Temple in Washington D.C.(?)

Raven Samuel Peters Abaroa was born on October 11, 1979, (Per the Memorial Video he claims he was born at 8:23 am) in California, perhaps San Diego. It is believed that he was born Samuel or Samual Peters. When he married Janet his name was Raven Samuel Abaroa. We know he has recently used the name Raven Peters. He has used all these names in the past.

Known names he has used:
Ina’maqki’u wi’dishi’anun
Raven Samuel Abaroa Peters
Pocketpcguy
NC_VX
msn: FuTBaLrGuY
Samual Peters
Raven Peters
Pness
The Rave

Raven and Janet Abaroa both worked at the same company called Eurosports in Hillsborough, NC but they worked in different departments. Janet discovered that Raven was cheating on her and the couple separated and he moved in with another woman. While Raven was having an affair and moved out Janet discovered she was pregnant. She spent the majority of the pregnancy alone.

In June of 2004 Raven started embezzling from Eurosports. Raven & Janet still both worked at the same company in different departments.

Raven & Janet started talking about getting back together at the end of July. In the beginning of August Janet took Raven back. In August they moved into a home they rented.

Janet & Raven's had a son:
Kaiden Kenéhsaeh Abaroa
Born: October 17, 2004
Time: 3:07 PM
Location: Durham, NC
Weight: 7lbs 15oz
Height: 20.5 inches

He was 6 months old at the time of the murder.

Raven embezzled from June until he was caught. In January Raven was arrested for Embezzling from EuroSports and he was terminated.

In February Raven was officially charged with embezzling over $10k worth of equipment from Eurosports. Janet, out of embarrassment resigned her position, at the dismay of her bosses and coworkers.

PLEASE NOTE: JANET WAS NOT EVEN REMOTELY INVOLVED IN THE EMBEZZLEMENT. Janet was dearly loved by her coworkers and bosses and knew she had no knowledge of Raven's embezzlement.

Raven ended up convicted of 5 felony charges in in August 2005. It was found that he was embezzling the product at work, mailing it off from the company to Utah. I am not sure if the product ended up being then shipped out from the mother's home.

They fell behind on their rent after they were both jobless in January. Landlord gave the couple February and March free due to their unemployment.

The landlord said they had found new jobs and were getting back on their feet shortly before Janet was murdered.
Janet was working for Martin Marietta Materials in Raleigh.

It is believed that their church raised enough funds to pay for their April rent.

On April 22, Landlord said Janet and Raven just signed the forms for the change in rent. May rent would've been back to normal before their unemployment.

Raven got a temporary job and was working at the time of the murder, however his job was temporary and was to be working until the end of the Month.

In April there was a flurry of activity on the internet. Raven joined Classmates, Hot or Not, Reunion.com etc. and joined many as "single".

On April 25, Raven makes an entry to his blog on his website about overcoming trying times in his life.

If I were a Bird... April 25, 2005

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RAVEN'S TREE

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In April prior to the murder there are substantiated rumors of Raven seeing other women.

Date of the murder

Janet and Raven both worked. The couple picked up Kaiden from Day care and the drove Janet's vehicle, an Acura for oil change at a repair shop and to have some work done to it.

Janet and Raven were visited by a Church Home Teacher who left the home about 7:00 pm. That was the last known time she was witnessed alive by someone other than Raven Abaroa.

Home Address: 2606 Ferrand Dr, Durham, NC 27705

Per Raven Abaroa they ate dinner, did dishes, put Kaiden to sleep and he worked on "homework". Janet didn't want him to go to the pick-up group to play soccer because he had homework. Janet folded clothes, and there are multiple stories told by Raven, that he put Kaiden's hang up's away or that they both entered Kaiden's room to put away laundry. They had a hallmark moment where they hugged and Raven stated they had such a beautiful family.

At about 8:30 pm Raven Abaroa claims he left to go to Morrisville for a pick up group soccer game. I am not positive, but I believe it's approximately 20 - 30 minutes away which would get Raven there approximately 9:00 pm.

Map

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He states he returned home about 10:40 pm. At about 10:58 he contacted 911. He claimed he found his wife dead in a kneeling position on the floor of the bedroom (actually a spare bedroom used as an office). According to the medical examiner's report she was laying on her back.

911 call: http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/audio/2034527/

Please see the following link for our written transcript of the 911 call.

Note:* It is later found that at the end of 911 call Raven was actually OUTSIDE waiting for Law Enforcement to arrive. He hung up with the 911 operator (you can hear how quiet he got) and then he told the people that arrived on the scene that Janet was hurt upstairs.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - The 911 call

Websleuths case information:

News report showing the inconsistency between shot, stabbed, hurt and dead at the scene.

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Janet Abaroa Time Line and Case Info. NO POSTING PLEASE.

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Timeline & Case Info. (there are changes since we got more information from NC Wanted/911 call and other sources of information)

Janet Abaroa Time Line and Case Info. NO POSTING PLEASE. - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
*Please note Raven states in his resumes he attended SVU 1998-2000 (he only completed one semester!)

About the house / where the murder happened:
2606 Ferrand Dr, Durham, NC 27705
three-bedroom home gravel driveway and the wooded yard of the secluded property.

Abaroa and her husband had lived in the house since August, just before Abaroa had her baby, said their landlord, Peter Greijn of Referral Realty in Raleigh.

Raven's vehicles:
Raven had 4 cars/motorcycles at the time he was fired from Eurosport: An Acura 3.0 CL (Janet's Vehicle), a Dodge Durango, a VX (just 1 and it was originally white) and his motorcycle.

Crime Scene:

Missing: Murder Weapon, Raven's "knife collection" and Laptop

Found: Money, keepsakes, Janet's wedding rings were sitting out. Nothing else was stolen

Media Links
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Medical Examiner's Reports
NOTES re: Medical Examiner's Report: The Medical Examiner did not show up at the scene of the crime and was notified of the crime on April 27, 2005. He did not view the body until April 28, 2005. Nearly 48 hours elapsed before viewing the body by ME. The "About" re: TOD may be due to husband's words to medical personnel that arrived at the scene of the crime and is not an accurate picture of the TOD. This is also due to the fact that is inconsistent with the 911 call, but when officers got to the house Raven was outside waiting for the office and told the officers "his wife was upstairs hurt", which is different than the words used in the 911 call.

Medical Examiner's Report:

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Search Warrant: 15 pages

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For Pictures of the Home etc. Please see post by NCBanker's post at Websleuths

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NCWANTED - INTERVIEWS
http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/story/1574270/
Scroll down - look on right side for "Videos" and you can see all the unedited versions of NC Wanted's interview with Raven Abaroa.

November 8, 2006, local television station WRAL reported in an interview with Cpl. Sheldon Perkins of the Durham Police Department:

Investigators said much of their work in the past year has involved tying outside information to clues found at the scene.

"We got a lot of forensic evidence on the scene," Perkins said. "But sometimes it's just as important the evidence you don't find."

Police said they believe Janet Abaroa knew her killer, noting there was no forced entry into the house.

Investigators have interviewed dozens of people, some of them more than once, he said.

"We have some people we're looking at, and we do have a person of interest," he said. "I feel it's a very good case."

Durham Police Keep Husband on Suspect List in Slaying

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Durham — For the first time, Durham police are saying that Janet Abaroa's husband, Raven Abaroa, has not been eliminated as a suspect in her slaying two years ago.

Memorial Video*

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Christmas Cheer Video aka Buck-Knife Video:

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Of note: Raven was taken to the police station and had someone from his church pick him up at about 4:30/5:00 am. Raven stated he would be back later in the morning to take a Lie Detector's test. He hired Julian Mack and lawyered up by 8:00 am. On his way to get Kaiden who was with another Church Member he contacted Janet's parents. He was crying and handed the phone to the church member who iinformed Janet's parents that Janet committed suicide. Raven has told other's she was dead and it was being investigated as a "suicide".

Salem
04-24-2009, 11:49 PM
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Hey Guys - I'm requesting a chart for Adji Dejir, a little, developmentally disabled, 6-year old boy that went missing in Florida on January 10th, 2009.

His date of birth is Oct. 15, 2002 in Naples Florida.

I am still looking for dated missing information for your use.

Salem

elepher50
04-25-2009, 12:04 AM
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Hey Guys - I'm requesting a chart for Adji Dejir, a little, developmentally disabled, 6-year old boy that went missing in Florida on January 10th, 2009.

His date of birth is Oct. 15, 2002 in Naples Florida.

I am still looking for dated missing information for your use.

Salem

Salem, this case really bothers me - I will help you sleuth whatever we need.

Salem
04-25-2009, 12:13 AM
Salem, this case really bothers me - I will help you sleuth whatever we need.

Thanks elepher! Any idea how to get the official time the missing report was called in? I'm been looking through the first thread for Adji, but so far have not come across anything "official".

TIA,

Salem

PS - this was Kat's idea, Daisy7 found the birthdate and place. I'm just carrying information over from the main thread :)

Salem
04-25-2009, 12:56 AM
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Hey Guys - I'm requesting a chart for Adji Dejir, a little, developmentally disabled, 6-year old boy that went missing in Florida on January 10th, 2009.

His date of birth is Oct. 15, 2002 in Naples Florida.

I am still looking for dated missing information for your use.

Salem

Quoting myself to add more info. The following 2 sheriff's press releases say Adji was last seen at 7:15 p.m.

http://www.colliersheriff.org/index.aspx?recordid=8040&page=1929
http://www.colliersheriff.org/index.aspx?recordid=8044&page=1929

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http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/jan/14/still-no-sign-immokalee-boy/

Saturday 1/10/09

• 5 p.m. — Family members realize 6-year-old Adji Desir is missing from his grandmother’s Farm Worker Village home at 814 Grace St., Immokalee, FL (Collier County). Adji was wearing blue shorts and a blue T-shirt with yellow stripes when he disappeared.

• 7 p.m. — Family members call Collier County Sheriff’s Office after a 2-hour search.

• 7:42 p.m. — Deputies respond, begin searching Farm Worker Village and surrounding woods with bloodhounds, ATVs, on horseback, and in a helicopter. The first neighborhood canvass is conducted.

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"My impression is they immediately called the Sheriff's office," Batten said. "At 7:15 he was watching TV and told his parents he was going outside to play with friends. We got the call at 7:42."

There are conflicting times when Adji was last seen, but 7:42pm is when he was reported missing.

Adji’s mother Marie Nadia, 36
stepfather Antal Elant, 41
Adji’s grandmother, Jesula Thebaud, 55

I believe all 3 of his relatives were born in Haiti, but I don't know where.

ETA: Here is Adji's WS thread #2 FL FL-Adji Desir - 6 year old Florida boy missing 1/10/09- Thread #2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

FifthEssence
04-26-2009, 10:46 PM
Hi FifthEssence.
it is ok to post Troy's reading.. Troy's info post #23
At this point I am ready for anything..
Linda W.. Troy's mom thanks you....


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startalk
04-28-2009, 09:21 AM
Hi folks, longtime Astrologer, first time post here.
I just posted Julissa's date of birth (4/24/83, according to news article, but not confirmed) and a short article on my blog:
http://astrologic.us/?p=1291

Thanks for all the good work.

Soulscape
04-28-2009, 09:38 AM
Hi folks, longtime Astrologer, first time post here.
I just posted Julissa's date of birth (4/24/83, according to news article, but not confirmed) and a short article on my blog:
http://astrologic.us/?p=1291

Thanks for all the good work.

Hi Startalk, yes, that's the birthdate for Julissa we are assuming is correct based on the same news article you mentioned. BTW, I found your blog with your first article on Markoff last week & I was glad to see it. Excellent analysis! Glad to see you here on WS. Please feel free to post comments about this case (or another) on our CASE BRIEFINGS thread, and welcome aboard!

Thanks,
Soulscape




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Salem
04-28-2009, 11:41 AM
Startalk - love the cartoons! Welcome!

Salem

startalk
04-28-2009, 03:34 PM
Hmmm...I think I'm posting in the right place (don't want to be the Astrological equivalent of the pink panther).
Thanks Salem and Soulscape.

That 29th degree of Pisces is often tragic. Casey Anthony's Sun is at that degree. Markoff and Brisman's Composite Sun (rounding up).
Also 29 Taurus, known for the Weeping Sisters (Julissa's Solar Arc Sun).

Peace

Startalk

FifthEssence
04-28-2009, 04:26 PM
Welcome StarTalk!

Monkey*
04-28-2009, 09:34 PM
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This is a news report about a horrendous murder involving torture of a CSI in NY.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/04/27/2009-04-27_grisly_slay_hits_home_for_csi.html

Her name is Michelle Lee, she's 24. Found by her roommate just after 8am April 28th in Sunnyside, Queens.

How can I find her birthdate? I'm off to see what I can find.

Salem
04-28-2009, 09:49 PM
Hmmm...I think I'm posting in the right place (don't want to be the Astrological equivalent of the pink panther).
Thanks Salem and Soulscape.

That 29th degree of Pisces is often tragic. Casey Anthony's Sun is at that degree. Markoff and Brisman's Composite Sun (rounding up).
Also 29 Taurus, known for the Weeping Sisters (Julissa's Solar Arc Sun).

Peace

Startalk

The Weeping Sisters also rears its head in the Haleigh Cummings case. In the general thread, it was posted that the Weeping Sisters would be visible/lining up over the next few days according to a PBS show (I need to find the link). I'm hoping it will shed some light on these cases?

I wonder if it has anything to do with the new photos of KC's car at Amscot being released? Interesting.

Salem

Soulscape
04-28-2009, 10:10 PM
The Weeping Sisters also rears its head in the Haleigh Cummings case. In the general thread, it was posted that the Weeping Sisters would be visible/lining up over the next few days according to a PBS show (I need to find the link). I'm hoping it will shed some light on these cases?

I wonder if it has anything to do with the new photos of KC's car at Amscot being released? Interesting.

Salem




The Pleiades a.k.a. ALCYONE a.k.a. The 7 Weeping Sisters always give something to cry about. According to NASA:

During the period from around April 10 to 13, the Pleiades shine like a cluster of diamonds just above Venus. On April 19, the crescent moon will join the party, sliding between Venus and the Pleiades for a special viewing.

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/spitzer/news/spitzer-20070412.html



I would say we have been hit with many things 'to cry about' in this time-frame, including news of the globally spreading swine flu.

~~Tori Stafford disappeared just prior to 'the show' (April 8th).

~~Julissa Brisman was found with head bashed in and gunshot wound to heart on 4/14 (Craigslist Killer).

~~Melissa Huckaby (Sandra Cantu) was arrested on suspicion of kidnap & murder on 4/11 (rape charges added within Pleiades's sighting framework).

Many things to cry about.

Thanks,
Soulscape

FifthEssence
04-28-2009, 11:41 PM
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quote=Monkey*;3674218]This is a news report about a horrendous murder involving torture of a CSI in NY.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/04/27/2009-04-27_grisly_slay_hits_home_for_csi.html

Her name is Michelle Lee, she's 24. Found by her roommate just after 8am April 28th in Sunnyside, Queens.

How can I find her birthdate? I'm off to see what I can find.[/quote]

dreamweaver
04-29-2009, 06:57 PM
Unsolved Murder:
David E Lewis:
DOB: 12/23/1961
Place of birth: Wilmington, DE
Time of birth: unknown
Date of death: Sept. 4, 2008: Very late Sept. 3, or very early Sept. 4, 2008.
Time of death:
Very late Sept. 3, or very early Sept. 4, 2008.
Place of death: Ashland OR
15 miles northeast of Ashland.
CIRCUMSTANCES:
Murder and arson.
There were two cabin fires that night.
3:00 a.m. ( a little before), 9/4/2008, a passerby in car called in a fire at 18196 Dead Indian Memorial Rd.
4:00 a.m., 9/4/2008, a second fire called in by residents from across the valley.
This cabin at 12801 Dead Indian Memorial Road, was found fully engulfed in flames not long after 4:00 a.m. Cabin burned except for chimney.
Later in day of 9/4/2008 a badly burned body found in the fire.
Body could not be identified. But family and friends were sure it was David E Lewis. He had lived in the mountain log cabin for 23 yrs.
Note: This cabin was the first fire started.
FAMILY:
David had 3 sons, 3 siblings.
His parents were deceased.
CIRCUMSTANCES:
David was a kind caring person.
But, he did get mad fast and would not back down from an argument.
He had many friends.
He was fired from a job in spring 2008.
He felt someone was trespassing on the property since Dec. 2007.
A friend was buying up property all around the mountain cabin.
There were problems with a driveway access.
POLICE:
David E Lewis death was murder and arson. The other cabin was arson.
The police say they do not have a person of interest, but no one has been ruled out.
Links:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3139724 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3139724)
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/NEWS07/809040343 (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/NEWS07/809040343) first news
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/NEWS07/809040343 (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080904/NEWS07/809040343)
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080905/MEDIA03/80904002 (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080905/MEDIA03/80904002) video
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080907/NEWS/809070318 (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080907/NEWS/809070318) interviews with family and
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081221/NEWS/812210332 (http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081221/NEWS/812210332) officials ‘confounded’
I hope you can tell by his chart why he was murdered and possibly who
murdered him.
Thanking you in advance for all your dedicated hard work.

Note: ODD:
This is a small valley. Also, on Sept. 4, 2008,
Troy Dean Carney was found shot dead.
Sept. 14, Troy’s camp area burned. Arson.
Sept. 14, David’s memorial service held.
Odd.
Troy Dean Carney forensic astrology reading done. Thank you.

FifthEssence
04-29-2009, 07:58 PM
any way to chart and find out if swine flu will go pandemic???


Hi Passionflower, Go have a look over in the ASTROLOGY Mundane and the ASTROLOGY General Threads for a couple comments by TUBA.

I'll move your post over to there as that is the place for questions NOT related to any particular case.

Mundane astrology is the application of astrology to world affairs and world events, taking its name from the Latin word Mundus, meaning "the World ".

FifthEssence
04-29-2009, 08:05 PM
We hear you.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/DOGblinking.gif


Our Astros are inundated at this time.

Your requests are being read. It is most unfortunate that sooooo many cases remain unsolved and justice not served.

Know that each case our Astros DO take on requires a lot of time, energy and SERIOUS focus.
It would not be fair to the victim(s) or their families to do a mediocre once over lightly chart and reading.

As time and schedules allow, more cases will be approached.

Thank you for your understanding.

indymom77
04-30-2009, 05:11 PM
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Just checking to see if anyone is looking into the disappearance of Brittanee Drexel?
I just read this story and was hoping for good news.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518511,00.html
SC-Brittanee Drexel 17, Msg 04/25/09, Myrtle Beach thread #1 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
I looked around and didnt see anything yet in this thread.

Thanks.


Just checking to see if anyone is looking into the disappearance of Brittanee Drexel?
I just read this story and was hoping for good news.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,518511,00.html
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83630
I looked around and didnt see anything yet in this thread.

Thanks.


Check the Case Briefings thread, Indy.
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Tuba has made some commentary.

Thanks,
Soulscape


Check the Case Briefings thread, Indy.

Tuba has made some commentary.

Thanks,
Soulscape



Oh thanks! I must have missed it.

Truly adore you all who put so much time into this. I wish I shared that gift.

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B]Missing:[/B]
Nancy Moyer:
Tenino, WA.
DOB: 11/22/1972
Grew up in Tumwater, WA.

Date last seen: Fri. March 6, 2009.
Date reported missing: Sun. March 8, 2009.
Time reported missing: around 5:00 p.m. March 8, 2009.

FAMILY:
Husband, separated for two years.
Married for 12 years.
Two daughters, age 11 and 9.
Sister, parents.
BACKGROUND:
She worked for State of Washington, Ecology Dept. in Lacey, WA. as a financial analyst. She had worked there 12 years.
Her husband had her children from Fri. night til Sun. night.
TIMELINE:
Fri. night she got off work, gave a co worker a ride home, stopped at Dave’s Thriftway, picked up some items, paid by check.
Fri. night she talked to her sister by phone.
No one hears from Nancy since Fri. night.
She had a date scheduled for Sat. night with a co worker.
He reportedly said she did not show for the date. He was only recently separated from his wife.
She lives in the 700 block of State Route 507, Tenino, WA.
On Sun. night, March 8, 2009, between 4:30 p.m. and 5:00 p.m.,
her husband brings the two girls home.
Girls, age 11 and 9 run into the house, but Nancy not there.
The front door has been left open. The tv is on. There is a glass of wine on the coffee table.
Her bedside lamp is on.
Her cigarettes and lighter are in the cup holder of a chair
on the front porch where she usually smokes. Ashtray is on the
floor of front porch.
Her car, a white Honda, is parked out front.
Her purse, wallet, and id, in the home. No clothing or toiletries are missing.
She lives across from a railway where transient workers are. She lives across from a spot where several abandoned cars are located. People do stay in these abandoned cars.
She does not have close neighbors. Search done by local police in home four times, bloodhounds searches done two times.
Police dug in the side yard a few days after her disappearance.
Many searches done on weekends by coworkers and friends.
Reward of $55,000. posted.

http://www.nancymoyer.com/ (http://www.nancymoyer.com/)
Matthew V and his wife Betsy B set up this website for Nancy. Matthew V is the co worker Nancy drove home that Friday.
http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_031709WAB-tenino-missing-womanKC.46f9602f.html (http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_031709WAB-tenino-missing-womanKC.46f9602f.html)
4/17/2009
http://www.theolympian.com/localhighlight/story/817466.html (http://www.theolympian.com/localhighlight/story/817466.html)
4/20/2009.
http://news.aol.com/article/missing-mom-case-puzzles-police/398190?icid=main|main|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fnews. aol.com%2Farticle%2Fmissing-mom-case-puzzles-police%2F398190 (http://news.aol.com/article/missing-mom-case-puzzles-police/398190?icid=main|main|dl1|link4|http%3A%2F%2Fnews. aol.com%2Farticle%2Fmissing-mom-case-puzzles-police%2F398190)
4/25/2009 article
http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/sheriff/hp-docs/missing-persons/MPB-Moyer-Nancy.pdf (http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/sheriff/hp-docs/missing-persons/MPB-Moyer-Nancy.pdf)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81468&highlight=nancy+moyer (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81468&highlight=nancy+moyer)

I am hoping Nancy M’s chart will show some sign of what happened to her, where she is, who took her?
Thank you so much for your experience and helpfulness.

Tuba
05-02-2009, 06:57 PM
Can you find out what time on Friday night she spoke to her sister?

dreamweaver
05-02-2009, 09:52 PM
Can you find out what time on Friday night she spoke to her sister?
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Sharon Wilbur is Nancy's sister:
Sharon Wilbur, who lives in nearby Rochester, Wash., said she last spoke to her sister the Friday that she disappeared. The two had chatted about a recent Mary Kay party Moyer had hosted and about how she was looking forward to the weekend.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=7151744&page=1

Earlier that afternoon, she dropped off a Department of Ecology co-worker after work about 5:15 p.m

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05-03-2009, 04:06 PM
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Can you find out what time on Friday night she spoke to her sister?

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I have always thought it was Fri. evening sometime as the police think she was taken Fri. night sometime.
But I have a pm into a co worker of Nancy's. She says she will check and see if she can find out.
Thanks

momtective
05-03-2009, 04:37 PM
Name: Tara Lea Blue
AKA: Tara Windham
Case Number: M0706006
Case Type: Endangered - Foul Play Possible
Last Seen in: Center (Shelby County)
Last Seen on: 11/2/2001
Height: 5' 5 "
Weight: 150 lbs.
Age Missing: 30
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Blonde
Date of Birth: 8/16/1971
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Blue has numerous tattoos on her arms, legs and back. She was last seen wearing jeans and a T-shirt.
Mother: Frances Ellafay Barton
Father: Earl Windham
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id=%27M6/14/20077:49:32AM%27

momtective
05-03-2009, 04:56 PM
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id=%27M10/16/20062:46:21PM%27
Name: Cole Duane Jackson
Case Number: M0610010
Case Type: Endangered
Last Seen in: Timpson (Shelby County)
Last Seen on: 7/12/2006
Height: 5' 7 "
Weight: 160 lbs.
Age Missing: 33
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 1/10/1973
Race: White
Sex: Male
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing : Shelby
From: USA
Circumstances: Mr. Jackson has a scar on his right cheek. He was last seen wearing a white T-shirt, blue jeans and athletic shoes. Mr. Jackson's vehicle was found abandoned in Shelby County.
http://www.myspace.com/colejackson33

HappyChic727
05-03-2009, 10:02 PM
If you get a chance, anytime in the future, could you possibly do a chart for my friend Tammy who died on 6/9/07 of a supposed suicide? Her family and I do not think she committed suicide.

Here are the facts as I put them here and in another website (Mystic Board):

http://www.mysticboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=29852

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50430&highlight=Murder+Suicide%3F

As you will see, we received alot of psychic confirmation that Tammy was murdered. I would like to see her chart done as another confirmation for her family. Her father died about 9 months after she did and the hospital found his death suspicious and wanted to do an investigation but the State Police wanted to chalk her death up to suicide and refused to reopen the case.

Thank you from me and her family, especially her mother.



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Soulscape
05-03-2009, 10:24 PM
If you get a chance, anytime in the future, could you possibly do a chart for my friend Tammy who died on 6/9/07 of a supposed suicide? Her family and I do not think she committed suicide.

Here are the facts as I put them here and in another website (Mystic Board):

http://www.mysticboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=29852

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50430&highlight=Murder+Suicide%3F

As you will see, we received alot of psychic confirmation that Tammy was murdered. I would like to see her chart done as another confirmation for her family. Her father died about 9 months after she did and the hospital found his death suspicious and wanted to do an investigation but the State Police wanted to chalk her death up to suicide and refused to reopen the case.

Thank you from me and her family, especially her mother.


Hello Happy,

We would need a date/time/place of death as well as date of birth, place of birth (city & state) and time of birth (if time of birth is available) could you possibly get that information from the family?).

Thanks,
Soulscape



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05-03-2009, 10:30 PM
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Hello Happy,

We would need a date/time/place of death as well as date of birth, place of birth (city & state) and time of birth (if time of birth is available) could you possibly get that information from the family?).

Thanks,
SoulscapeThank you so much Soulscape! I can get all of that information from her Mom. The reason her father's death is suspicious to us is that he started to hang out with Tammy's boyfriend (who we think may have had something to do with her death) right after her death. I don't know what the findings were that caused the hospital to want to investigate but IIRC, both Tammy and her father had similar symptoms of "head squeezing". I'll confirm that too, just in case you need that.

Thanks again for all you do. It's all very interesting but a bit over my head!

dianebs
05-04-2009, 12:53 AM
I would really like to know the truth of how my fiance died. There were many lies and cover-ups by doctors, cornorers and the police. I believe I know the truth, but would like it confirmed, as I could not get anywhere with the authorities.

Just a brief history. Rob was a recovering drug addict which I was helping him overcome and he was on methadone treatment and seeing a drug counsellor. His main problem was pills, but when we moved to the place where he collapsed, we moved two apartments from a drug dealer. The drug dealer was very bold and announced this in front of me the day we met him. Rob tried to keep away from him, but it was like putting candy in front of a child and Rob relapsed a couple times until I learned to keep all money on me, so he couldn't afford the drugs. He was still able to get pills at times from another friend and the week he collapsed we spoke with a drug counsellor to set up for him to get into rehab. He was also paranoid schizophrenic which was under control at time of collapse.

Within the month of his collapse and death, the drug dealer approached Rob. Rob had been trying to avoid him. All Rob told me was that the drug dealer .. John Dalea, wanted him to deal for him and Rob said no. He told me he feared for his life. When I wanted to call the police on the dealer, like so many times I wanted to, Rob would talk me out of it saying that he would kill me and my family.

The morning of his collapse, July 16, 2005 he was very happy as he found out his family from another province were coming to our wedding in November. In the afternoon he developed a tooth ache. As I held onto all money, I gave him about $7 at approx 2:30 pm to buy tylenol, he came back at 2:45 pm and said he did not have enough money. I gave him an additional $2 and he left and that was the last time I saw him awake.

His death was ruled accidental overdose, but I believe to be murder by the drug dealer, misdiagnosis of the doctor and cover up by the police because of mishandling with the city cornoner and doctor. No justice has been served.

Robert Joseph Arsenault
DOB: August 18, 1971 time unknown
Place of Birth: Toronto, Ontario Canada

Date of His Collapse: July 16, 2005
Time of 911 Call 3:05 pm EDT
Place: 123 Charlton Avenue East, Hamilton Ontario


Ambulance Report: July 16, 2005 @ 3:05pm

-Reported by unknown person that Rob was screaming and swearing at unknown person 30 minutes prior (I know for fact he was only gone from our apartment 20 minutes, as when the superintendant knocked at my door I looked at the clock and thought it was Rob, and knew he was gone 20 minutes .. thought he forgot his key). It was the superintendant letting me know he was unconscious outside.
-Found unresponsive by unknown person 15 minutes prior to 911
-They arrived to find Rob unresponsive and did not know if it was from a trauma or OD.

Doctor`s Report Date: July 18, 2005, states Rob overdosed on 5 different drugs. The doctor told me that he overdosed and ultimately was killing himself of antifreeze (later she denied ever saying). Not until my doctor received Rob's lab reports in September 2005, did I find out he had no antifreeze in his system but PCP .. a drug he never mentioned to me. Rob explained to me all about drugs and what they did, he had never mentioned that drug at all. He had mentioned about pills and cocaine and told me he would never do needles as he was scared of them.

Date of Death: July 19, 2005
Time of Death: 1:53 pm EDT
Place of Death: Hamilton General Hospital, Hamilton Ontario

Date of Regional Coroner's Report: May 25, 2006 Dr. Eden states that Rob died of mixed drug toxicity by means of accident.

Diane Stewart
DOB: August 12, 1967

Thank you for all you do and considering looking at my fiance's chart. I just want to know the truth.

Troy's mom
05-04-2009, 11:18 AM
Still no arrest....http://troy-dean-carney.gonetoosoon.org

Troy's mom
05-04-2009, 11:22 AM
http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080906/NEWS07/809060324

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081025/NEWS/810250312

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081221/NEWS/812210332

www.myspace.com/justice4troy

:furious::behindbar

HappyChic727
05-04-2009, 03:18 PM
Thank you so much Soulscape! I can get all of that information from her Mom. The reason her father's death is suspicious to us is that he started to hang out with Tammy's boyfriend (who we think may have had something to do with her death) right after her death. I don't know what the findings were that caused the hospital to want to investigate but IIRC, both Tammy and her father had similar symptoms of "head squeezing". I'll confirm that too, just in case you need that.

Thanks again for all you do. It's all very interesting but a bit over my head!



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Tammy Lynn Laurella
Date of Birth: 9/21/68
Time of Birth: Approximately 11:30 p.m.
Place of Birth: Millville, NJ
Date of Death: 6/9/07
Time of Death: Between 12:30 p.m. and 2:00 p.m. or thereabouts
Place of Death: At her boyfriend's house where she lived in Carmel, NJ (I think their actual address was considered to be Millville, NJ)

I think this answers all of the questions Soulscape. Thanks so much!

dreamweaver
05-04-2009, 10:29 PM
Can you find out what time on Friday night she spoke to her sister?
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I cannot find the answer to this.
Time unknown by co workers.
LE feels Nancy M taken Fri. night.



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dianebs
05-08-2009, 10:10 PM
WILLIAM “BILLY” MASON

DOB: June 27, 1978
Time of Birth: Unknown
Place of Birth: Hamilton, Ontario Canada

Went Missing: February 22, 2006
Place Went Missing: 917 Main Street East, Hamilton Ontario
Police Suspect Foul Play.

http://www.myspace.com/bringbillyhome

Mother: Donna Mason


Billy Mason has been missing since February 22, 2006. The police suspect he was kidnapped at gunpoint from his apartment at 917 Main St. East. He has not made any attempt to contact his family or friends since that time.

Police strongly suspect foul play. ANYONE with information is asked to come forward.

Please forward all inquiries and information regarding this case to Hamilton Police Service: Major Crime Unit
Detective Peter Thom
Telephone: 905-546-3843
Email: mmaloney@hamiltonpolice.on.ca

Or if you wish to remain anonymous:
Call Crimestoppers
1-800-222-TIPS (8477)
905-522-TIPS (8277)

He was kidnapped from his home at gunpoint by two unknown men on February 22, 2006.

http://www.freewebs.com/billymason/

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05-09-2009, 12:35 AM
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I cannot find the answer to this.
Time unknown by co workers.
LE feels Nancy M taken Fri. night.

Thanks Dreamweaver for asking for a chart on Nancy. It would be wonderful if the co-workers and friends who search endlessly each weekend could have some kind of answer...or some direction on where to search.

Those poor folks. I understand if the Astro's can't help...but man any kind of info would help.

FifthEssence
05-10-2009, 01:26 AM
Thanks Dreamweaver for asking for a chart on Nancy. It would be wonderful if the co-workers and friends who search endlessly each weekend could have some kind of answer...or some direction on where to search.

Those poor folks. I understand if the Astro's can't help...but man any kind of info would help.

Hello Breanna,

Our fellow sleuth Dreamweaver has presented much of Nancy's story to us. As Tuba requested, we need 'the time she spoke to her sister that Friday evening in order to do a productive chart that would provide details not apparent through standard investigative methods.


Are you in communication with her co-workers or any relatives?

Thank you,
FifthEssence




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by Snick1946 POST#43
Not sure if I am going about this correctly, if not please let me know and I can delete this posting.
There is an active thread elsewhere on this board involving a crime that took place in Omaha Nebraska at sometime between 3:20 and 3:45 PM on March 13, 2008. An older woman who was cleaning was killed as was an 11 year old child who lived in the house. The case is attracting interest again but to my knowledge no one has ever done any reading or astrological analysis on it.
I can probably try to come up with a DOB on the boy, I believe he was born in June or July 1996 but may be able to do better if I know you need it.
His parents are still devastated, death was by stabbing. Please let me know what you need here or if you cannot help please let me know, thank you.



PS here is a link to the board discussion:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67963

Victims were: Thomas Hunter DOB 6-12-96
Shirlee Sherman DOB 4-7-50



I sincerely hope this is not going to be misinterperted. I have a lot of respect for all the work your astrologers do in this board. I sometimes read all the detailed charts, etc and am in awe of how much effort and time must be required.
I have however started to despair that my request will ever be addressed. An 11 year old child was murdered and the killer is still out there. Not very remarkable these days, but I just don't see why some cases are addressed and others- like this one- are not.
Any chance at all??

FifthEssence
05-10-2009, 03:44 PM
We hear you. We do read through the requests in this thread.
All these cases are heart wrenching.

I've attached a link from the Administrator of WS that may explain some things.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3612913&postcount=1

If you go over to our 'BRIEFINGS' thread you will see we have answered a variety of requests in between handling those cases we have already dedicated threads to.
We're doing what we can at this time.

Thank you.

dreamweaver
05-10-2009, 03:57 PM
Hello Breanna,

Our fellow sleuth Dreamweaver has presented much of Nancy's story to us. As Tuba requested, we need 'the time she spoke to her sister that Friday evening in order to do a productive chart that would provide details not apparent through standard investigative methods.


Are you in communication with her co-workers or any relatives?

Thank you,
FifthEssence
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I will call the sheriff's office, speak to the detective in charge, and ask for the time of the phone call. What's the worst that could happen? They say no.
Will post as soon I get the answer, yea or nay.



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Tuba
05-10-2009, 05:22 PM
Not sure if I am going about this correctly, if not please let me know and I can delete this posting.
There is an active thread elsewhere on this board involving a crime that took place in Omaha Nebraska at sometime between 3:20 and 3:45 PM on March 13, 2008. An older woman who was cleaning was killed as was an 11 year old child who lived in the house. The case is attracting interest again but to my knowledge no one has ever done any reading or astrological analysis on it.
I can probably try to come up with a DOB on the boy, I beleive he was born in June or July 1996 but may be able to do better if I know you need it.
His parents are still devastated, death was by stabbing. Please let me know what you need here or if you cannot help please let me know, thank you.

PS here is a link to the board discussion:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67963

Victims were: Thomas Hunter DOB 6-12-96

Shirlee Sherman DOB 4-7-50

Dr. William Hunter's call to 911 came in at 5:48 p.m. He'd returned home from work and found the bodies of Sherman and his eleven-year-old son. They'd been murdered --- stabbed to death inside the house.

Can you explain or describe 3:20 vs. 3:45? I ask because we need to know which to use. Or, if one time seems more significant to you than the other, go ahead an choose that and if you can state why, so much the better.



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breanna
05-11-2009, 02:18 AM
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I will call the sheriff's office, speak to the detective in charge, and ask for the time of the phone call. What's the worst that could happen? They say no.
Will post as soon I get the answer, yea or nay.

Hey Dreamweaver. Thanks for offering to do this. I also thought about maybe leaving a comment on the Find Nancy website. I'm sure her sister reads it. Maybe she would reply?

Thanks so much Astro's :blowkiss:

breanna
05-11-2009, 02:25 AM
Hello Breanna,

Our fellow sleuth Dreamweaver has presented much of Nancy's story to us. As Tuba requested, we need 'the time she spoke to her sister that Friday evening in order to do a productive chart that would provide details not apparent through standard investigative methods.


Are you in communication with her co-workers or any relatives?

Thank you,
FifthEssence

Thank you FifthEssence. No, I'm not in touch with them. But I will try. Just as Dreamweaver has. If only one of them could give us a time. That would be fantastic.


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dreamweaver
05-11-2009, 11:19 AM
Can you find out what time on Friday night she spoke to her sister?
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Tuba: I talked with Thurston County Sheriff office
this morning.
He says that Nancy M spoke with her sister on Thursday afternoon, not on Friday evening at all.
He further says there were no phone calls Fri. night at Nancy's home phone.
He states the last person to have seen her was at Thriftway Market. She paid by check there at 6:45p.m., Fri. March 6, 2009.



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jnTexas
05-11-2009, 01:22 PM
Has there been a chart done on this case? The father/husband was supposedly at the gym when it happened. He went there at 5:30am called cops for a well fare check on them around 7am. There were threats against the family in the recent past. I think the husband Chris might have done this.

here's a link with info:
http://www.bnd.com/372/story/763016.html

this is aso being discussed in the crimes in the news forum.

I'm trying to locate birth dates for all three

salvarenga
05-12-2009, 09:06 PM
So many times when children are victims of kidnap and rape they often end up dead. Would a chart tell why someone survived such an ordeal? I don't even know if this makes sense, what I'm trying to ask.....I am a survivor od childhood kidnap/rape and everytime I see on the news where a child doesn't make it, I can't help but think why was I one of the lucky ones? Don't get me wrong, I am greatful everyday that I am a survivor but that question has always lingered in the back of my mind. I hope this makes sense. I feel like I am rambling.

jnTexas
05-13-2009, 02:08 AM
Has there been a chart done on this case? The father/husband was supposedly at the gym when it happened. He went there at 5:30am called cops for a well fare check on them around 7am. There were threats against the family in the recent past. I think the husband Chris might have done this.

here's a link with info:
http://www.bnd.com/372/story/763016.html

this is aso being discussed in the crimes in the news forum.

I'm trying to locate birth dates for all three

DOB's for the victims..

Sheri Coleman July 3, 1977

Gavin Coleman Jan 25, 2000

Garrett Coleman april 30, 1998

nothing on the Dad yet. these dates came from the funeral program. Here;s the link:
http://media.bnd.com/smedia/2009/05/12/12/ColemansMemorial.source.prod_affiliate.98.pdf

beckaroozie
05-13-2009, 09:30 AM
This happened within 5 miles from my home in a neighboring town. It's is a very sad case where a young woman (former missionary) and her 10 yr old stepson were brutally stabbed to death in July, 2006. It’s still unsolved, and I wondered if a couple of charts might help identify some clues. They really need to solve this one, and they are at a standstill.

What LE really needs are some clues as to who the perp is, or might be…location now (or his location in relation to the crime scene), description, age, relation to the victims, motivation, or any other info that might be gleaned on the perp(s) or reason for the murders. They quasi-cleared the husband (supposedly very upstanding Christian), but I don’t know. I found some info on civil suits, and a bankruptcy. I’m not sure if the (2nd) wife or child had insurance policies or not. Anyway – if one (or both) of the Astros could look at the case and maybe give some clues that would be awesome.

Here’s all the info I could find and thanks to all for any clues you can provide:

Victims:

Assuming (Johnson County) Franklin, IN on all POB

Chynna Lynne Dickus - DOB 1/22/80 - Death 7/24/06
(also see www.4chynna.com)
Last seen alive at 1:30 - 1:45 pm on 7/24/06

Blake Michael Dickus - Birth: Feb. 21, 1996
Last seen alive at 1:30 - 1:45 pm on 7/24/06

Death: Both were discovered brutally stabbed (and Blake stabbed & bludgeoned) at around 5 pm on Jul. 24, 2006
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Husband: Stephen S. "Sean" Dickus DOB 8/12/1972

Sean worked mere minutes away from his family's new home in the sleepy, upstart Branigin Creek subdivision. On his lunch break, Sean drove home to spend part of the afternoon with Chynna and his 10-year-old son, Blake. By all accounts, the family had a great time together.

Sean returned to work around 1:45 p.m. (Last Seen Alive), and remained there until the end of his shift at 5 p.m. (Found them when he returned home from work)

_____________snip from article August 2006

Both had been stabbed repeatedly and the boy had been struck with a blunt object, according to autopsy results.

Dickus, 33, told police he found the bodies when he came home that afternoon. Police have ruled him out as a possible suspect following the initial phase of an exhaustive investigation.

"Mr. Dickus has cooperated with us every step of the way," said Franklin Police Chief John Borges in a statement issued Thursday. "At this time, the investigation simply does not point to Mr. Dickus as a potential suspect."
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http://www.4chynna.com/

Chynna was my one and only daughter. She was taken away July 24th, 2006. Chynna, 26 and her stepson Blake, 10 were brutally murdered in their new home. They had just moved in about a month before. And Blake was over for his weekly visit. Little did they know something terrible was going to happen that afternoon? No one heard or saw anything, but someone took Chynna and Blake's life. They were found brutally stabbed to death that afternoon. Who was the last to see them alive? Who killed them?

They were last seen alive around lunch time. From that point on no one could reach her. Blake's grandmother was coming over to pick him up because he was going to go to a movie with his Mother.

America's Most Wanted Info:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=51938

AMW Case info:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=51938

Local Newspaper Article with lots of info:

http://www.4chynna.com/news_dj_20060726.html

Another article from local TV station:

http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=6827349&ClientType=Printable

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/9660161/detail.html

Any info to help solve the mystery of this case would be appreciated.

Just bumping this so it doesn't get lost. Thanks very much.

Soulscape
05-13-2009, 09:57 AM
So many times when children are victims of kidnap and rape they often end up dead. Would a chart tell why someone survived such an ordeal? I don't even know if this makes sense, what I'm trying to ask.....I am a survivor od childhood kidnap/rape and everytime I see on the news where a child doesn't make it, I can't help but think why was I one of the lucky ones? Don't get me wrong, I am greatful everyday that I am a survivor but that question has always lingered in the back of my mind. I hope this makes sense. I feel like I am rambling.


My Dearest Salvarenga,

The answer is surely in your chart, just as it is in the charts of those who survive crimes/ school shootings/ and such. See Ken Gillman's fascinating research on survivors of violence at http://www.astrologyedmonton.com/Newsletters/Jan2007.pdf

Blessings,
Soulscape

salvarenga
05-13-2009, 11:56 AM
My Dearest Salvarenga,

The answer is surely in your chart, just as it is in the charts of those who survive crimes/ school shootings/ and such. See Ken Gillman's fascinating research on survivors of violence at http://www.astrologyedmonton.com/Newsletters/Jan2007.pdf

Blessings,
Soulscape


Thanks Soulscape! I will definitely take a look at this link.

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B]I have added a timeline to this initial request for a chart reading for Kellisue Ackernecht.[/B]
I hope this will help in any chart that is done.

Kellisue Ackernecht

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73082

http://findkellisue.wordpress.com/ (http://findkellisue.wordpress.com/)

Name: Kellisue Ackernecht
Date of Birth: 12/16/1972
Place of Birth: Amsterdam, NY
Date Missing: 09/30/2008
Family:
Jayson A: husband
Date of birth: 06/17/1973
Place of birth: Gloversville, NY
Daughter: dob: Oct. She is 10 yrs old.
Kim Ackernecht: Jayson’s sister
Dennis Ackernecht: Jayson’s uncle
>Kellisue, Jayson and daughter lived with Jayson’s mom.
Siblings:
Thomas Kilcullen: brother of Kellisue, lives in Ames, NY
Chris Clouston, brother of Kellisue, lives in CT.
Beth Manchester, sister,
Kellisue had 6 siblings, 7 children in family.
Parents deceased.
Kim A: Jayson’s sister, lives in Johnstown.
Dennis A: Jayson’s uncle, lives in Johnstown.
Age at time of disappearance: 35
City Missing From: Johnstown
State Missing From: New York
Gender: Female
Race: White
Height: 5′10″
Weight: 135lbs
Hair Color: Auburn
Eye Color: Brown

Circumstances:
Kellisue left her job after work at Rite Aid,
in Amsterdam, NY, about 9:45 p.m.
Her home in Johnstown, NY was about 30 minutes away.
Her car found on fire 1:53a.m., in Frog Hollow area, in Johnstown, NY.
This was just three blocks from her home.
The car fire was across the street from Kellisue’s uncle by
marriage, Dennis A.
Timeline:
09/30/2008:
9:45p.m. - Kellisue left her job after work at Rite Aid, in Amsterdam, NY, driving a 10 year old Saturn.
Her home was a half hour drive away.
10/01/2008:
12:03a.m. – One shot heard by neighbors in Johnstown, NY, Frog Hollow area. This is three blocks from Kellisue’s home at ### Main St, Johnstown.
12:18a.m. – Another shot heard by neighbors.
Neighbors called the police about shots heard.
1 53a.m. – Kellisue’s car discovered on fire in Frog Hollow area.
2:00a.m. – Jayson A, Kellisue’s husband, notified by police that his wife’s car burning. He said that he had gone to bed at 9:00p.m.
Jayson said this was not Kellisue’s usual route home.
*Time not known: Jayson says Kellisue never came home.
**Police state that neighbors must have heard tires on car blowing up as it burned. Police chief stated he did not think gun shots were heard. This despite that there was an hour and half lapse between shots heard and car on fire.
*** Jayson’s uncle Dennis A lives across the street from where the car was discovered on fire.
**** Car completely destroyed by fire.
Story:
Jayson and police feel that Kellisue left with a man, ran away, despite the fact that she would never leave her daughter, despite the shots heard, despite the car being burned.
Jayson and his family did not search for Kellisue.
Jayson did not even talk to the media until Nov. 2008, and Kellisue went missing 09/30/2008.
Jayson’s posts on topix are troubling.
Jan. 09 and again March 09, Jayson set up my space pages. His main interest to find a girl friend.
Jayson’s my space page said he was a volunteer firefighter.
Identifying Characteristics: Wears glasses and a wedding band on her left hand, was last seen wearing tan pants, new white sneakers, and a Rite-Aid apron. She has a patch on her right cheek.
Medical Conditions: According to her husband, she takes medication for depression, but stopped taking it before she disappeared.
(jpg pic. gone)
Looking to see if any new information can be obtained through an astrologer, this case is very sad.
TYIA.
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05-16-2009, 12:23 AM
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05-17-2009, 06:13 AM
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Hello,

I was wondering if you could look at Jennifer Kesse's dissapearance?

Jennifer was last seen on the 23rd of Jan 2006 when she walked out of her work place with her boss. After that she spoke to different friends and family members, the last person being her boyfriend Ron Allen, at around 10:00 pm.
Jennifer was reported missing the next day when she did not show up for work and missed her usual morning phone call / text message with her boyfriend - this usually happened early morning before Jennifer got to work.

Jennifer went missing from Orlando, Florida - I'm sorry I don't have the time of the police report.

There is a POI / suspect is Jennifer's case. This POI was caught on camera parking Jennifer's car about 4 hours after she would have left to go to work (many people believe she was abducted on the way to her car). Pictures of the POI can be found at this link:

http://www.findjenniferkesse.com/

Jennifer's dob was the 20th of May, 1981, time is not known unfortunately.

Links to Jennifer's threads at WS:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73078

Thank you so much in advance :blowkiss:

I don't mean to nag as I know you are busy but just wanted to bump this up in case it got lost in the thread. Orlando PD have just come out and basically said they have nothing to go on and this is likely going to turn into a cold case. Any help you could give would be much appreciated.

Soulscape
05-17-2009, 06:49 PM
If you get a chance, anytime in the future, could you possibly do a chart for my friend Tammy who died on 6/9/07 of a supposed suicide? Her family and I do not think she committed suicide.

Here are the facts as I put them here and in another website (Mystic Board):

http://www.mysticboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=29852

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50430&highlight=Murder+Suicide%3F

As you will see, we received alot of psychic confirmation that Tammy was murdered. I would like to see her chart done as another confirmation for her family. Her father died about 9 months after she did and the hospital found his death suspicious and wanted to do an investigation but the State Police wanted to chalk her death up to suicide and refused to reopen the case.

Thank you from me and her family, especially her mother.



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Thanks,
Soulscape

SharetheLight
05-18-2009, 01:04 AM
This forensic astrology is fascinating. Thank you to everyone who is working so hard on these requests.

If you get a chance, any info you may provide on the following case is greatly appreciated, these girls (sisters) seemingly vanished without a trace:

Sheila Mary Lyon: DOB 3-30-62
Katherine Mary Lyon: DOB 3-29-64
They are sisters that disappeared 3-25-75 from Wheaton Plaza in Wheaton MD.

The girls left on foot for Wheaton Plaza sometime between 11:30am-12pm on 3/25/75. They were due back home between 3pm-4pm that day.
Several people saw them at the mall that day. The last time the girls were reportedly seen IN the mall is around 2pm. Two separate neighbors reportedly saw the girls walking toward their (the Lyon) home between 2:30-3:30 on 3/25/75. (the validity of these sightings is in question because they were reported several days after the girls disappeared)
The police were called by John and Mary Lyon (their parents) some time between 7pm-8pm on 3/25/75.

To date, no trace of Sheila or Katherine has been found. The 34th anniversary of their disappearance just passed. This case needs to be solved.

Here is a link to the Sheila and Katherine Lyon forum here on Websleuths:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=97

Thanks
SharetheLight

Respectfully bumping so this request doesn't get buried.

There is so little to go on with this case any information that can be provided is greatly appreciated.
I don't know if two people(sisters) disappearing together makes chart reading easier or more difficult. I have no experience with chart reading but maybe some common denominators in the girls' charts can provide some insight/possibilities.

Just about everything in this case is questionable except the few details I provided in the post quoted above.

I question whether the girls were taken by a stranger or someone they were familiar with. It's been 34 years. Will the girls/their remains ever be found? I also don't know if charts can indicate an area where the girls ended up.

Two young girls 10, 12 were taken without a trace 34 years ago. It would be nice to glean some direction to look toward to solve this case. Their forum discussions have been round and round. With no other information, it is tough to try to solve.

If you need any other information about this case, I'll do whatever I can to provide you with the information.
Any attention you can give to this case is greatly appreciated.

watchinginky
05-19-2009, 12:53 PM
This is my father who died in 1980.

Date/Place of Birth: Sept. 14, 1942 (sorry I don’t have the time) in Bellefontaine, OH.

Last heard from: Sept. 24, 1980 at 5:30 pm (phone call to wife).

Last seen alive: Sept. 24, 1980 at approx 7:30 pm (seen by an acquaintance in Sidney, OH).

Body Found: Sept 27, 1980 at 8:30 am (found floating in Milligan South Gravel Pit, Shelby County OH).

Time of Death: Sept. 24, 1980 at approximately 11:00 pm.

His death was officially ruled a suicide – a drowning.

However, throughout the investigation, the investigators stated they were “treating the death as a homicide” and “foul play is expected”. There were indications that there had been a confrontation and his car had been ransacked. Strangulation, physical abuse or gunshot or knife wounds were ruled out as a cause of death.

He was found floating in a gravel pit, but there was no water in his lungs. This was not made public, but investigators told us that his hands had been strapped inside his belt at his waistline. One hand was in the front and the other in the back and the belt tightened around them. They told us there was no way he could have done that himself.

I only have old newspaper clippings left and I can't find anything online regarding him. My mom saw a psychic once that told her he could "see" several men around my dad at the time of his death. He also told her that my dad was murdered and the case would never be solved. We never believed his death to be a suicide.

I would greatly appreciate any information that any of you super astros could provide to me and my family. And thank you for all of your hard work on the requests here and on all of the other "big" cases posted on WS.

Thanking you in advance.
WatchinginKY

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Soulscape
05-19-2009, 02:58 PM
Watchinginky, even without the time of birth I can tell you from a preliminary look at the charts that your father was murdered. I will post a commentary on the Case Briefings thread sometime this evening.

Thanks,
Soulscape



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watchinginky
05-19-2009, 03:02 PM
Watchinginky, even without the time of birth I can tell you from a preliminary look at the charts that your father was murdered. I will post a commentary on the Case Briefings thread sometime this evening.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Thank you so much Soulscape. We have always believed that his wife at the time may have had a hand in it as well.

3hPinV
05-25-2009, 08:46 PM
Hello,
I am new to the forum. I am an astrologer but not horary so I do not get into the depth of detail you marvelous people do. I lean more toward psychological/spiritual interps. I am glad to have found your forums here, a delight!

Please feel free to move or delete this post as it is not topic related, I am just overwhelmed with the number of forum and don't know wher to post my question.

Which is-
Does anyone yet have the DOB for Chrisopher Coleman, 32 , the Illinois father who strangled his family and was just arrested for that a few days ago?

Thanks for pointing me in the proper direction on this.

KLM

Tuba
05-25-2009, 09:03 PM
Since you do psychological and spiritual interpretation, you are tapped to do an analysis of this man and we will do whatever we can to find his birthdate for you. Usually, the crime shows put up the first page of an arrest report with the DOB but this time, that hasn't been done. I'm off to do a search for you.

FifthEssence
05-25-2009, 09:47 PM
Christopher Coleman
DOB 3/20/77 not sure of birth place- could be Chester, IL since he graduated from Chester High School

arrest affidavit http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6251312/Christopher-Coleman-Charge-Document

Hearing June 10, 2009 @ 10am

dreamweaver
05-26-2009, 02:14 PM
I have been fascinated by the case of John W Glasgow. He disappeared from Little Rock, AR, Jan.28, 2008.
He was the CFO of a major company and there appeared to be many disagreements within the company.
It would be wonderful if you could take a look at this mysterious case.

**This case first requested by beckaroozie, 1/24/2009.
WS case request: his case is on page 1, number 20. dated 1/24/2009.
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http://www.findjohnglasgow.com/
reward is now 100,000.
http://www.portfolio.com/executives/features/2009/02/11/Arkansas-Executive-Goes-Missing
March 2009 business magazine article about possible shady dealings surrounding John Glasgow's disappearance.

Thank you.

dianebs
05-29-2009, 12:31 PM
Name: William (Billy) Mason
Date of Birth: June 27, 1978
http://www.nampn.org/cases/mason_william.html
Place of Birth: Burlington, Ontario Canada

Date of Abduction: February 22, 2006
Place of Abduction: Hamilton, Ontario Canada

Mother: Donna Mason

Last spoke with his mother: February 22, 2006 at 8:30 pm

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5664/billyarticle2bl1sx9.jpg

TIMELINE:

February 22, 2006 - 8:30 p.m - Billy's mother Donna arrived at his apartment with groceries, Billy wasn't at home but he called her from a friends cell phone saying he was at the corner store, he was on his way back. Donna left the groceries at his apartment and headed back to her house, Billy phoned her back and asked if she could take some of his laundry with her because the machine in the building was broken - she said she would pick it up the following day, a Thursday.

February 23, 2006 - Billy did not answer his phone when called to pick up the laundry. She phoned several times and got no answer.

February 24, 2006 - A female answered the phone and told her that Billy had "gone away for the weekend" but this was out of character since Billy didn't drive and wasn't known to go away anywhere, especially not in the middle of the winter. Donna became suspicous.

February 22 or 23, 2006 - 27 year old Billy Mason is kidnaped from his home at gunpoint by two unknown men

March 1, 2006 - Billy was reported missing on this day, due to the misleading information his family recieved from people in Billy's apartment regarding his whereabouts, it was believed he may have been voluntarily missing until this time.

http://www.freewebs.com/billymason/timeline.htm[/QUOTE]

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http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/jan/14/still-no-sign-immokalee-boy/

Saturday 1/10/09

• 5 p.m. — Family members realize 6-year-old Adji Desir is missing from his grandmother’s Farm Worker Village home at 814 Grace St., Immokalee, FL (Collier County). Adji was wearing blue shorts and a blue T-shirt with yellow stripes when he disappeared.

• 7 p.m. — Family members call Collier County Sheriff’s Office after a 2-hour search.

• 7:42 p.m. — Deputies respond, begin searching Farm Worker Village and surrounding woods with bloodhounds, ATVs, on horseback, and in a helicopter. The first neighborhood canvass is conducted.

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"My impression is they immediately called the Sheriff's office," Batten said. "At 7:15 he was watching TV and told his parents he was going outside to play with friends. We got the call at 7:42."

There are conflicting times when Adji was last seen, but 7:42pm is when he was reported missing.

Adji’s mother Marie Nadia, 36
stepfather Antal Elant, 41
Adji’s grandmother, Jesula Thebaud, 55

Adji was born Oct. 15, 2002 in Naples, Florida

I believe all 3 of his relatives were born in Haiti, but I don't know where.

ETA: Here is Adji's WS thread #2 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81697

Respectfully bumping for little Ji Ji. Hoping this precious boy is found soon.

athy
06-02-2009, 11:03 PM
the Michelle Young case is one of the cases i've been following. is there anything you can tell by the charts. hopefully when an arrest will be and did her hubby kill her as many of us suspect?

here is some of the info let me know if you need more:

michelle young birthdate:

feb 17, 1977 (i believe sayerville, ny)

married october 10th, 2003

died nov. 2 -3 2006 raleigh, nc

hubby jason young: april 8th 1974 i believe brevard, nc at least thats where he was raised

left home for business trip 8 pm nov. 2 2003

made call to michelle's sister at 12:00 - 12:30 pm nov. 3rd to go pick up fax.

michelle's sister found her bludgeoned to death 1:30 pm friday. nov 3

FifthEssence
06-02-2009, 11:26 PM
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Dear Astros,

I am requesting a forensic astrology chart for Officer Davina Buff Jones who died while on duty at Bald Head Island, NC on Oct. 22, 1999. (This is the same island that Kate + her 8 kids recently visited.) Davina made a 1 minute phone call at 11:30 that evening and she was reported as last seen by 3 people at 11:45 pm. Her last transmission moments after stated "Show me out with three. Stand by please." Then she keyed her portable mike and said 'There aint no reason to have a gun her on Bald Head Island, okay?" She was dead after a few more words. Everybody knows that she was murdered yet LE ruled it a suicide. Here's a link to her site (includes graphic photos): http://www.officerdavinabuffjones.com/

Davina Jones
DOB 7-29-1966 Charlotte, NC
DOD 10-22-1999 between 11:45pm-midnight, Bald Head Island, NC

There are dark and corrupt elements to this case which point to powerful people and a cover-up. The sheriff is currently serving time for witness tampering and OJ in an unrelated matter. A relative of his was questioned in Davina's case. A documentary was made about him years ago called "The Work Series: Sheriff" and can be rented from Netflix. (It is interesting).

The Attorney General won the race for Govorner in the 2000 election and served 2 terms. He is now being investigated for his use of private planes before and during his govornership. There have been rumors and rumblings since Davina's death that he was tied to large drug shipments shipped to the island and stored in a building owned by him and that Davina had learned this. Planes have been rumored to fly over the island just after dusk without their lights on and dropping large packages for as long as I can remember. They navigate by the light on the lighthouse that Davina died beside.

I snipped this message from Davina's family on her site at the above link:
Justice for Davina

Information is presented on this web site to give the public a better idea of what transpired on Bald Head Island the night Davina Buff Jones was killed in the line of duty. If anything happens to any of us hosting this site, or identified with the book, no matter how accidental it looks, we will have our proof that Dee did not commit suicide.

I am providing this so that you can use your own discretion in deciding whether to chart this case. Thanks for all you Super Astros do for us Sleuths!

matilda

nanny1
06-06-2009, 11:37 AM
Kimster you are absolutely right these girls do need to be found. This is the first I have read about this case and was just stunned that the B family property was not searched thoroughly in the begiining.



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Chiquita71
06-06-2009, 11:44 AM
Hello AstroWS

I know you are doing important work on this thread(understatement). I know that you are working to bring people home safe. I did not know where else to ask...have the Astros ever done any charts on the JonBenet Ramsey case? If so...may I be pointed in the right direction?

Thank you for your time.
Blessings

dreamweaver
06-06-2009, 03:20 PM
Hello AstroWS

I know you are doing important work on this thread(understatement). I know that you are working to bring people home safe. I did not know where else to ask...have the Astros ever done any charts on the JonBenet Ramsey case? If so...may I be pointed in the right direction?

Thank you for your time.
Blessings
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No JonBenet chart done here.

May be others on line.

terminatrixator
06-08-2009, 05:20 PM
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Update from post 131 on these forums.

Since the original request made on the 4 year anniversary of Janet's murder, new information has come out. Raven's wife came forward to state her and Raven separated in December after 2 months of marriage.
She was interviewed by NC Wanted link as follows:

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/5138162/

My concern now is him repeating his bad behavior and killing again. I also worry that he may have killed prior or since then. I worry about Kaiden as I have heard he is becoming more erratic.

August 4, 2000
Janet and Raven Abaroa married

November 11, 2000
Janet and Raven and their dog Shanuk take a trip to Lost River National Park in West Virginia

December, 2000
Janet obtains her Associate's Degree and takes a year off from college to spend time with Raven

February 19, 2001
Janet and Raven took a vacation to Orlando, FL

May 8, 2001
Raven's wallet was stolen. It contained $35, his driver's license and credit cards

January, 2004
Raven was unfaithful to Janet and the couple were in the process of separating,

Janet discovers she is pregnant

May, 2004 - Janet showing and Raven discovers she is pregnant. They begin reconcilliation talks

July, 2004
01: Raven allegedly begins embezzling funds from his employer, Eurosport

August, 2004 Raven and Janet move into home on Ferrand Drive (THIS NEEDS CONFIRMATION)

September, 2004
01: Raven embezzles more funds from his employer, Eurosport

October, 2004
01: Raven embezzles more funds from his employer, Eurosport
17: Kaiden is born

November, 2004
01: Raven embezzles more funds from his employer, Eurosport

December, 2004
01: Raven embezzles more funds from his employer, Eurosport

January, 2005
Raven fired for allegations of embezzlement from his former employer, Eurosport in Hillsborough.

Janet resigned from her accounting position at Eurosport.

February, 2005
02: Raven Abaroa was charged with 5 counts of embezzling thousands of dollars from Eurosport, according to court documents.

March 8, 2005 - Raven signed up at Classmates.com (http://classmates.com/)

April 19, 2005 -Signed up at myspace as single

April 22, 2005
Landlord said Janet and Raven just signed the forms for the change in rent. Landlord gave the previous two months free due to unemployment.
It is believed that their churched raised enough funds to pay for their April rent. May rent would've been back to normal before their unemployment.

April 25, 2005 - Raven makes an entry to his blog on his website about overcoming trying times in his life and plans to start anew - He names the blog If I were a Bird..."Wait I am"

April 26, 2005 - Janet and Raven go to work in the a.m. Raven & Janet leave work to bring Janet's vehicle to the shop.

April 26, 2005 - Hometeacher comes to home.

April 26, 2005 - Raven goes to play Soccer

April 26, 10:30--Raven arrives home

April 26, 2005 - Janet Abaroa found Murdered in her home

April 26/27, Taken to the Police Department to be questioned

April 27th 5:30 am contacts the Christiansen family regarding Janet's death and states she committed suicide.

April 27th - 8:00 am Informant told me they received a call from Karen Abaroa that Janet was dead and it is being investigated as a suicide.

April 27th - 8:00 am a Memorial Trust Fund set up in Raven Abaroa's name at the Credit Union (I believe said fund was bankrupted when he overdrew)

May 6-7--Buena Vista, VA for funeral/visiting friends

May 9--attends Memorial Service in Annandale, VA

May to ??--Stays with Christiansen family members

May ??--Volleyball tournament

Month of May--returns to Durham to collect belongings

May -Moves in with Karen and Jim Bolten in Utah

May - July - Raven involved with High School Student who has a baby girl and gives the baby girl up for adoption

June 3, 2005 -- Video surfaces showing Raven flashing his buck knife.

June 11th & 12th - Beach Volleyball

June 30th - we hear that Raven is heading out on a trip

July 7th-??--Trip to Maine/Vermont for competition(what was that called that he did?)

July 22, 2005 - Prosecutors offer deal on Embezzlement Charges

June-July, 2005 --Starts working at Cingular

July-August, 2005 --Fired from cingular

August 17, 2005 - News that police secure warrant to search involved all online activity from accounts, between April 1 and May 16, 2005.

August 18, 2005 - Autopsy information released

August 23, 2005 - Raven pleads guilty to embezzlement (5 COUNTS)

August ??--Starts working part-time at bike shop

October 17, 2005--Returns to Buena Vista, VA for SVU's homecoming

October 24-31, 2005--Moab, for bikefest

November 29, 2005 -signed up at the Alta High Reunion website.

April 26, 2006 – Raven goes to Attorney’s office to file bankruptcy petition, which so happens to coincide with the One YEAR Anniversary of Janet’s Murder.

April 29, 2006 – Raven no show at Wife and Unborn Child’s Candlelight Memorial Vigil

May 5, 2006 – Rumors surface that Raven went on another bike trip

August 2006 Bankruptcy is dishcharged.

August - September - Raven moves from apartment to Condo.

September 28, 2006
news reports regarding psychic on the case:
http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-773718.html
and
http://www.nbc17.com/news/9949918/detail.html

October 2006 - Raven moves to new Condo - rumors surfacing he purchased a condo. (Confirmed that someone he was "dating" Jen who is real estate agent/doctor) allowed him to live there. He told family & friends he purchased a condo and a friend gave him $30,000.00 to put down.

October 21, 2006 -
Homecoming Soccer game in Memory of Janet Christiansen Abaroa Pioneer Scholorship held at SVU. Raven attended.

November 8, 2006 -
News Coverage with Cpl Perkins, DPD -
Police Follow New Lead In Durham Woman's 2005 Slaying stating they have a Person of Interest.

November 2006
Rumors regarding Raven having a girlfriend and possible fiance (name?) surface

February 8, 2007
FBI Interviewed Raven in Utah. No news regarding the outcome of the interview.

March 2007 -
Raven no longer working for Canyon Bicycles (Confirmed) Word from coworkers Raven was stealing and quit before he could be fired.

April 2007 -
Vigil,March held to call for end to violence - Christiansen Family spoke - Raven a no show.

April 2007 - WRAL.com (http://wral.com/) - http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/1361259/

November 2007- Raven does interview with NCWanted.com (http://ncwanted.com/)

Part 1 http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/video/2045849/

Part 2 http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/video/2088381/

Part 3 http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/video/2100343/

Part 4 http://www.ncwanted.com/unsolved/video/2116142/

January 2008 - Raven starts to date Vanessa Pond

May 11, 2008 - (Mother's Day) Raven and Vanessa Pond get Engaged

September 6, 2008 - Raven and Vanessa Pond Wed

December 24, 2008 - Raven and Vanessa Pond separate

I have heard Raven is now working for http://www.wasatchelectric.com/

Queenofwands
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Darlie Routier was convicted and sentenced to death for the murder of one of her two children. There is a lot of doubt as to whether an innocent woman may die for these crimes. Just this last November of 2008, that appelate court agreed to let her test items for DNA that was kept from the defense (as well as many pictures). Here are the statistics I have found:

The murder occured in the early morning of June 6, 1996 in Rowlett (near Dallas), Texas. Darlie, Devon, and Damon were asleep downstairs in front of the television when "an intruder" supposedly entered the home. Darlie says she woke with a stranger hovering over her and jumped up and chased them out the house. She immediately called 911 at 2:31 a.m. and stayed on the phone with the operator until the first officer arrived on the scene. By this time, 5 minutes and 40 seconds had passed.

Darlie Lynn Peck Routier was born January 4, 1970 in Altoona, PA
Devon Routier was born June 14, 1989 in Rowlett or Dallas, TX
Damon Routier was born February 19, 1991 in Rowlett or Dallas, TX

Darlie's husband, Darin, and her infant son, Drake were upstairs when the "intruder" came in. Darin said he had gone upstairs and turned out the light and looked at the clock "close to one o'clock in the morning".

Darin Routier was born January 1, 1968 in Lubbock, TX
Drake Routier was born October 28, 1995 in Rowlett or Dallas, TX


Devon & Damon were killed; Darlie survived "an attack". Darin and Drake were not injured. Darlie was rushed into surgery at Baylor Medical Center at 3:40 a.m. She was released into ICU at 4:49 a.m.

Devon was already dead when paramedics arrived on the scene. Damon's time of death on his autopsy report says he passed at 3:26 a.m.

Jump to June 8th. Darin & Darlie were brought to the Rowlett Police Department for questioning and at that time Darlie was given her Miranda rights. They both made written statements: Darin at 4:55 p.m and Darlie at 4:49 p.m. On this same day, a private viewing at the funeral home for the family was scheduled for 8:00 p.m.. The funeral was the following day, the 9th at 2:00 p.m.

On June 14, 1996 there was a memorial service at 1:45 p.m. Devon for his 7th birthday. A Celebration of Life for Devon was at 6:30. This is where Darlie's teenage sister brought the silly string because she new Devon loved silly string. This silly string video was the one that was played over and over in the media. The video for the solemn memorial service was never released to the public.

June 18th at 10:20 p.m., Darlie was arrested and charged with capital murder.

The trial was moved to Kerrville. It began January 6, 1997 at 9:55 a.m.

On February 1, 1997, the judge read the verdict from the jury at 12:40 p.m. -guilty of capital murder. She was later sentenced to death (I don't have the date/time).

I am generally FOR the death penalty, and if she truly is guilty then I hope she gets what she deserves. However, there are so many questions with this trial, there is no way she should have been found guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". The DA kept too much from the defense. At the least, she deserves a fair trial.

Sorry for going on and on, but I really feel like an innocent women may be on Texas' Death Row. I can't find any birth times.

Here is her non-astrology thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49976&highlight=darlie+router

nursebeeme
06-10-2009, 10:45 PM
September 10, 2008 birthdate

kidnapped 1230 am June 10 (allegedly)

She is nine months old.

video on case (raw interview)
http://www.the33tv.com/news/kdaf-dpd-missing-girl-story,0,3487346.story

amber alert and other coverage http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/Mom_Says_Infant_Kidnapped_Ove

ETA: the last link I posted shows the mother pleading for the return of her baby. She seems truthful to me

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Motherof5
06-10-2009, 11:04 PM
Respectfully bumping so this request doesn't get buried.

There is so little to go on with this case any information that can be provided is greatly appreciated.
I don't know if two people(sisters) disappearing together makes chart reading easier or more difficult. I have no experience with chart reading but maybe some common denominators in the girls' charts can provide some insight/possibilities.

Just about everything in this case is questionable except the few details I provided in the post quoted above.

I question whether the girls were taken by a stranger or someone they were familiar with. It's been 34 years. Will the girls/their remains ever be found? I also don't know if charts can indicate an area where the girls ended up.

Two young girls 10, 12 were taken without a trace 34 years ago. It would be nice to glean some direction to look toward to solve this case. Their forum discussions have been round and round. With no other information, it is tough to try to solve.

If you need any other information about this case, I'll do whatever I can to provide you with the information.
Any attention you can give to this case is greatly appreciated.


I just want to thank STL for requesting this case and many thanks to those of you doing this wonderful work!! This poor family lost 2 children in one day and there really is little to go on. I hope we'll get some much needed direction and answers here.Bumping for Sheila and Katherine!!

dreamweaver
06-11-2009, 01:46 PM
September 10, 2008 birthdate

kidnapped 1230 am June 10 (allegedly)

She is nine months old.

video on case (raw interview)
http://www.the33tv.com/news/kdaf-dpd-missing-girl-story,0,3487346.story

amber alert and other coverage http://www.myfoxdfw.com/dpp/news/Mom_Says_Infant_Kidnapped_Ove

ETA: the last link I posted shows the mother pleading for the return of her baby. She seems truthful to me
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There is a news story that says police arrived at 11:40 p.m.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/crime/stories/DN-kidnap_11met.ART.Central.Edition1.50d5103.html
This is not the original news article, but does say time before midnight.

Also, says mom was coming out of the bathroom when attacker assaulted her.


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Soulscape
06-12-2009, 11:22 AM
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There is a news story that says police arrived at 11:40 p.m.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/localnews/crime/stories/DN-kidnap_11met.ART.Central.Edition1.50d5103.html
This is not the original news article, but does say time before midnight.

Also, says mom was coming out of the bathroom when attacker assaulted her.


Dreamweaver, I will post later today regarding this case in the Case Briefings thread. Neptunian indicated she may be commenting as well.

Thanks,
Soulscape

ETA: Daisja Weaver-mother reports kidnapped after attack

ETA #2: It would very helpful to get Mother's birth data!


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Queenofwands
06-12-2009, 06:22 PM
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Darlie Routier was convicted and sentenced to death for the murder of one of her two children. There is a lot of doubt as to whether an innocent woman may die for these crimes. Just this last November of 2008, that appelate court agreed to let her test items for DNA that was kept from the defense (as well as many pictures). Here are the statistics I have found:

The murder occured in the early morning of June 6, 1996 in Rowlett (near Dallas), Texas. Darlie, Devon, and Damon were asleep downstairs in front of the television when "an intruder" supposedly entered the home. Darlie says she woke with a stranger hovering over her and jumped up and chased them out the house. She immediately called 911 at 2:31 a.m. and stayed on the phone with the operator until the first officer arrived on the scene. By this time, 5 minutes and 40 seconds had passed.

Darlie Lynn Peck Routier was born January 4, 1970 in Altoona, PA
Devon Routier was born June 14, 1989 in Rowlett or Dallas, TX
Damon Routier was born February 19, 1991 in Rowlett or Dallas, TX

Darlie's husband, Darin, and her infant son, Drake were upstairs when the "intruder" came in. Darin said he had gone upstairs and turned out the light and looked at the clock "close to one o'clock in the morning".

Darin Routier was born January 1, 1968 in Lubbock, TX
Drake Routier was born October 28, 1995 in Rowlett or Dallas, TX


Devon & Damon were killed; Darlie survived "an attack". Darin and Drake were not injured. Darlie was rushed into surgery at Baylor Medical Center at 3:40 a.m. She was released into ICU at 4:49 a.m.

Devon was already dead when paramedics arrived on the scene. Damon's time of death on his autopsy report says he passed at 3:26 a.m.

Jump to June 8th. Darin & Darlie were brought to the Rowlett Police Department for questioning and at that time Darlie was given her Miranda rights. They both made written statements: Darin at 4:55 p.m and Darlie at 4:49 p.m. On this same day, a private viewing at the funeral home for the family was scheduled for 8:00 p.m.. The funeral was the following day, the 9th at 2:00 p.m.

On June 14, 1996 there was a memorial service at 1:45 p.m. Devon for his 7th birthday. A Celebration of Life for Devon was at 6:30. This is where Darlie's teenage sister brought the silly string because she new Devon loved silly string. This silly string video was the one that was played over and over in the media. The video for the solemn memorial service was never released to the public.

June 18th at 10:20 p.m., Darlie was arrested and charged with capital murder.

The trial was moved to Kerrville. It began January 6, 1997 at 9:55 a.m.

On February 1, 1997, the judge read the verdict from the jury at 12:40 p.m. -guilty of capital murder. She was later sentenced to death (I don't have the date/time).

I am generally FOR the death penalty, and if she truly is guilty then I hope she gets what she deserves. However, there are so many questions with this trial, there is no way she should have been found guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". The DA kept too much from the defense. At the least, she deserves a fair trial.

Sorry for going on and on, but I really feel like an innocent women may be on Texas' Death Row. I can't find any birth times.

Here is her non-astrology thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49976&highlight=darlie+router
bumping...

A quick question for astros: If I wanted to attempt a chart on Darlie (without DOB) what time would I use to make a "Sunrise chart"? (hope that doesn't sound dumb!).

Thanks for any help u can offer. :)

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06-12-2009, 06:36 PM
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bumping...

A quick question for astros: If I wanted to attempt a chart on Darlie (without DOB) what time would I use to make a "Sunrise chart"? (hope that doesn't sound dumb!).

Thanks for any help u can offer. :)


Queenofwands, here is your chart:


http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Case%20Briefings/DarlieRoutierNatal.gif


Let us know if this helps you.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Queenofwands
06-12-2009, 06:49 PM
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Wow!, Thank you so much, Soulscape!

Now, I have to figure out what to do next! :) Tomorrow, I'm going to the bookstore and will be looking for books on Forensic Astrology, and all the Parts (of Fortune, etc).

I have been and will be studying the charts all of you have done, for guidance into how to figure this one out!

I know there will be violence in the charts, but will have to figure if it's FROM Darlie or TO Darlie (that will be a while yet). :confused:

Thanks Again,
Queenofwands

FifthEssence
06-12-2009, 09:32 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/DOGblinking.gif
Our Astros are painfully aware of the undone charts, trying to do the best they can in the time they have available, and when current missing children cases come to the forefront they unfortunately tend to take a higher priority as they're more urgent in nature.

It's understood investigators and LE have observed the posts inside of WS and if we can get some details posted on these current cases, sometimes our astral findings are most helpful, directional and validating, particularly when they don't have tangible proof on hand.
If you take a look over at our Case Briefings thread, you'll note we have picked up on some of the cold cases of past and will continue to do so in between those cases that are in the forefront of the news.

We believe all the cases brought before WS are important and worthy of attention.


Thank you for your understanding and patience.

Kathee
06-13-2009, 06:38 PM
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DOB's:
Donnie Luetjen --July 21, 1944

Sharon Luetjen--June 29, 1947

Taron Luetjen--August 4, 1993
All three victims were born in Sedalia, Missouri.

Police believe that this family could have been killed on Sunday June 7, 2009, or Monday June 8, 2009, and not discovered until Tuesday June 9, 2009.
Police were called to 802 S. Elm in Cole Camp, Missouri about 11:30 on Tuesday June 9, 2009. They had to secure a search warrant before they made entry.....when they made entry @ 5:15 p.m. they found the Luetjen's shot to death----at least that is the official cause of death.
The teenager, Taron, was the elder Luetjen's granddaughter whom they had custody of since she was and infant.
The last known communication with any of the victims were text messages that Taron and a friend were sending each other Sunday evening.....those stopped being answered about 10:30 p.m. on Sunday June 7, 2009.

****************************arrest has been made**********************************
The Missouri State Highway Patrol says Robert Blerton has been arrested in the slayings of three central Missouri residents earlier this month.

http://www.kmbc.com/news/19879343/detail.html
http://ozarksfirst.com/content/fulltext/?cid=162512

http://crimesceneinvestigations.blogspot.com/2009/06/witness-who-listened-to-cole-camp.html



WS Thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85076

pittsburghgirl
06-14-2009, 04:37 AM
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Would you consider doing a chart on "The Springfield Missing Women"? This cold case involves the disappearance of a woman, Sherrill Levitt, and two teenaged girls (Sherrill's daughter, Suzie Streeter, and her friend Stacy McCall). The girls had just graduated from high school on June 6, 1992. All three disappeared from Sherrill Levitt's home, 1717 Delmar Avenue, Springfield, MO, sometime between 2:30 am and 7:30 am, June 7.

Known timeline, taken from police report unless otherwise stated:
June 6, 1992 Stacy McCall (4/23/74) and Suzanne Streeter (3/9/73) attended high school graduation exercises. Stacy’s parents, Janis McCall (10/21/47) and Stewart McCall (no birthdate on police report) and Suzanne’s mother, Sherrill Levill (11/1/44) attended the graduation.

June 6, 9:15 or 9:30 pm. Sherrill spoke to a friend on the telephone. She was home that night varnishing a piece of furniture.

June 6, Around 10:30 p.m. Stacy calls home to say the girls will stay at Janelle Kirby’s.

The following information comes from the police incident report, “Missing Persons” taken June 7, 1992 at 10:48 pm.:
Janelle Kirby and Mike Henson stated they last saw Stacy McCall and Suzanne Streeter at a graduation party in Battlefield Missouri “around 2:00 a.m.” on June 7. The party was on Coach Drive in Battlefield, MO. Kirby, Henson, and the two girls left the party and went to Kirby’s home on Butterfield Place. (Kirby stated in media interviews that Suzie and Stacy left because Kirby’s family had company and they didn’t want to sleep on the floor.) “Kirby and Henson stated Stacy and Suzanne told them they were going to go to Suzanne’s house later in the morning and they would all to White Water [water amusement park in Branson. MO]. Kirby and Henson stated that he two girls left in their own vehicles.

Around 2:30 a.m., June 7: Speculative time Stacy and Suzie arrive at 1717 Delmar.

June 7, 1992 Janelle Kirby stated she makes first call to 1717 Delmar house around 7:30 a.m. (One media reports states the calls start around 8 am).

Janelle Kirby and Mike Henson state they arrive at the house around 12:30 pm and find porch light globe broken with bulb intact and light on and the front door closed but not locked. They enter house to find the TV set on in Suzie’s room along with all three purses, which had car keys to their three cars and the house keys. Sherrill’s purse had $800 in it.

Kirby and Henson state they return to 1717 Delmar around 7:30 pm according to police report.

Janis McCall states she and husband arrive around 9 pm. Police report states both Mr. and Mrs. McCall at residence, along with two other daughters, when they arrive. Four other people are listed on the police report. (A media reports that 18 people entered the house, “unwittingly interfering with potential evidence).

Springfield PD is contacted by Janis McCall. No time given. First officer arrives. Report taken 10:48 pm by second officer who arrived.

Report states “nothing in the house seemed to indicate a struggle.” Janis McCall was concerned that Stacy would not leave without her purse and medication for migraine headaches and depression. “Officer Gault and [the reporting officer] were advised by the subjects present that they had already cleaned up the glass and looked into purses and around the residence prior to our arrival.” Stacy’s clothes and jewelry are found in Suzie’s room.

Possible later sightings June 7: Between 1 and 3 a.m at George’s Steakhouse. Around sunrise, someone looking like Suzie seen driving a van.

Other events. as reported in the media:
• The girls had originally intended to drive to Branson the night of June 6 and spend the night in a hotel. They changed their minds. Stacy called her mother to say that she was staying at the Kirby house.
• A server at George’s Steakhouse reported seeing the women between 1 and 3 am on June 7. The three arrived and departed together. Suzie appeared to be drunk and the women were with three men. Police received 3 calls about this sighting.
• Janis McCall calls the Kirby house, speaks to Janelle’s sister and learns that Stacy stayed at Suzie’s house. She calls Suzie’s house and leaves message on the answering machine for Stacy to call her. Janis continues to leave messages on Sherrill and Suzie’s machine.
• Sherrill’s Yorkshire terrier was in the house when Kirby and Henson arrived.
• Suzie’s overnight bag was with the purses.
• Someone erases an obscene call received Friday, June 5 and recorded on the answering machine. Kirby and Henson hear two other such calls on Sunday June 7 while they are in the house.
• A van (moss-green, blue or dirty brown) with a girl who looked like Suzie who “looked scared” was reportedly seen after sunrise on Sunday, June 7.
• Suzie was scheduled to testify in a trial against three people, including her former boyfriend, involved in robbing graves.
• Robert Craig Cox, in prison in Texas, has been questioned about involvement in the killings. He was once on death row in Florida for rape and murder of a young woman but released when he won an appeal. He was living in Springfield at the time of the disappearances.
• December 1992: anonymous caller phones American’s Most Wanted, believed to have vital information about the case but was disconnected and never called back.
• A Grand Jury considers three suspects with criminal records, but none are indicted. Testimony is also taken concerning Robert Craig Cox.

Complete list of birthdates
Missing Women
• Stacy McCall (4/23/74)
• Suzanne Streeter (3/9/73
• Sherrill Levitt (11/1/44)
Relatives
• Janis McCall (10/21/47)
• Stewart McCall (not available)
• Meredith McCall (9/25/72) sister of Stacy
• Lisa McCall (8/6/68) sister of Stacy
• Bartt Streeter (7/17/64),Sherrill's son; Suzie's brother; was a suspect
Last known people to see/hear Suzie and Stacy
• Janelle Kirby (4/29/74)
• Mike Henson (3/13/72)
• Kathy Kirby (3/7/56), mother of Janelle
Other Suspect
Robert Craig Cox (10/06/59)

Questions: Was more than one perpetrator involved? Was the FBI agent correct when he said that "an acquaintance" of the women was involved? Were the obscene calls or the van sighting connected to the abductions? How did the abductor(s) get into the house? This one is a real mystery. No trace of the women has ever been found. Thanks for considering the case.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=325

Kathee
06-14-2009, 06:19 PM
Many thanks to Pitssburghgirl. This was my next request.


DOB

Stu McCall----04-02-43


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pittsburghgirl
06-14-2009, 09:56 PM
Kathee, If I got anything wrong or if there is anything we should add, please do so. I couldn't find Stu McCall's birthdate, but the others were in the police report. Bartt's and Cox's were available through various court records.

Queenofwands
06-15-2009, 06:53 PM
This case has bothered me since I learned about it:

Audrey Lyn Nerenberg, born September 24, 1958, New York City
went missing at age 18, on July 15, 1977 in Brooklyn, NY.

The time she walked out of her home to get a pack of cigarettes was stated to be "around noon", and also "around 2 P.M." She was supposed to be right back, but was never seen again.

Because she was an adult, police and FBI wouldn't take a report at the time of her disappearance. Audrey was diagnosed as schizophrenic at 15 and was under strict doctor's care at the time of her disappearance. In all the years she has been missing, there have been few leads.

The Websleuths link for Audrey's case is http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3933&highlight=Nerenberg

If I am permitted to put the link where I got the birthdate and time of disappearance, here they are: http://missingpiecesshow.homestead.com/MissingPiecesEpisode26Archive.html and http://www.angelfire.com/ak/403/page45.html

If I am not supposed to post these links, please remove them or contact me and I'll remove them.

Thank you for your consideration.

Sincerely,
QueenofWands

Bombshell2night
06-19-2009, 04:52 AM
CAN SOMEONE HELP ME ? MY FRIENDS MOTHER WAS MURDERED. HER MURDER IS STILL UNSOLVED.ANITA LEWIS SMITH i HAVE HER BIRTHDAY AND CITY BORN
01-20-1962 TIME OF BIRTH UNKNOWN BIRTHPLACE POPLARVILLE, MS

FifthEssence
06-19-2009, 11:04 AM
CAN SOMEONE HELP ME ? MY FRIENDS MOTHER WAS MURDERED. HER MURDER IS STILL UNSOLVED.ANITA LEWIS SMITH i HAVE HER BIRTHDAY AND CITY BORN
01-20-1962 TIME OF BIRTH UNKNOWN BIRTHPLACE POPLARVILLE, MS

Because we are bogged down with requests, I cannot promise if and when we will be able to get to your request.
In the meantime, please complete the following details necessary to cast a chart.

Location and Date & time of discovery, date and time of Police report or 911 call, circumstantial details.

In addition, we need to know the date & time of LASTseen or heard from & circumstance.

dreamweaver
06-19-2009, 10:19 PM
6/18/2009:
Jody King's body was found not far from where he disappeared 4/20/2009.
Prayers to Casey King and their 3 daughters.
RIP. Jody King.
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Jody King:
Missing since April 20, 2009.
He was involved in a car accident, night of
4/20/2009.
He fled the truck accident scene, discarded his clothing and belongings about 100 yards away and has not been seen since.
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Case Details:
Date of birth: 11/14/1980
Place of birth; Corpus Christi, TX
Time of birth; 4:34 a.m.

Date last seen; 4/20/2009, : 9:00 p.m.
Date missing person report filed: 4/21/2009:
Time missing person report filed: 4:30p.m, approximate.

Jody is a white male, 5’6’’, 160 pounds with auburn brown hair.
Blue eyes.
He was last seen wearing a green, long-sleeved shirt and a
black hat.

Background Details:
Jody King, lives in Ticonderga, NY with his wife and three children under the age of five; one a baby born three weeks before the accident.
Jody K has a large extended family.
Jody King works out of town for a large construction company.
He comes home on weekends.
On Mon., April 20, 2009, he and co workers got off work early. They went to a sports bar in New Haven, CT.
6:30p.m.: Jody called his wife, told her he was leaving soon. He was sharing a hotel room with another co worker in Meriden, CT.
7:30pm: Jody leaves bar with a coworker. They go and pick up a passenger, about 3 minutes away. Co worker wants to return to bar and get his car and go back to hotel.
They do this.
7:45p.m.- Jody buys 18 pack beer at a local package store, about 3 minutes from the bar.
8:57p.m. - Motorists call in about a car accident.
Jody and passenger involved in a car accident, near exit 48, Enfield, CT. This is about 70 miles north of sports bar and 30 miles north of Meridian, where hotel located.
9:22p.m. - Passenger calls 911. He had left the car right after accident, darted across lanes of traffic, nearly getting hit and then called 911 some 22 minutes later.
JODY K is seen leaving the wrecked vehicle and running into the nearby woods. He seems disoriented according to other motorists.
9:30p.m. - Police arrive at scene. They find destroyed cell phones inside the car. They find a half empty bottle of alcohol. They find a some yellow powder in an envelope.
10:15p.m. - Jody's wife, Casey, is notified of the accident by police at her home in Ticonderoga, NY.

note: It is known that Jody K had a similar experience five years prior to this. He had been drinking and took a drug. He became delusional, hypothermic, broke cell phones, discarded all his clothing and took off.
He called three days later. Family do not think he has used this kind of drug since. Until April 20, 2009.

Tues., April 21, 2009: 4:00 p.m., approximately: Casey King is able to convince police that Jody is a missing person. She files the missing person report.
Wed., April 22, 2009:
Police with search dogs find Jody's clothing and wallet and other belongings about 100 yards away, in a wooded area, very close to Mass Mutual insurance company building.
Later learned that dogs tracked Jody's scent to a 4 ft high fence surrounding Mass Mutual, an insurance company.
State police did search the grounds of Mass Mutual. But one area near the 4 ft fence has not been searched.
Many searches were done by police and Jody's family.
Aerial search done. Land searches. Neighborhood searches.
Dog searches.
It is now six weeks since Jody King disappeared. Police are no longer searching for him.
Casey K and family and friends and WS posters all are now helping search for Jody.
Links:
WS: CT-Jody King, Enfield CT missing after car crash - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83816)
Topix: http://www.topix.com/city/ticonderoga-ny/2009/04/enfield-police-seeking-jody-king-of-ticonderoga-n-y-reported-missing-after-interstate-91-crash

news article: 5/2/2009
http://www.plwave.com/articles/2009/05/02/news/doc49fb59c452882833160428.txt

http://projectjason.org/forums/index.php?topic=6068.0
Jody King, 28, 4-20-09 Ticonderoga, NY - Help Find The Missing (http://www.helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=13252)

Please help Casey King and her daughters and the rest of the King family find Jody.
.......

Queenofwands
06-23-2009, 05:59 PM
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quote=Queenofwands;3853705]Darlie Routier was convicted and sentenced to death for the murder of one of her two children. There is a lot of doubt as to whether an innocent woman may die for these crimes. Just this last November of 2008, that appelate court agreed to let her test items for DNA that was kept from the defense (as well as many pictures). Here are the statistics I have found:

The murder occured in the early morning of June 6, 1996 in Rowlett (near Dallas), Texas. Darlie, Devon, and Damon were asleep downstairs in front of the television when "an intruder" supposedly entered the home. Darlie says she woke with a stranger hovering over her and jumped up and chased them out the house. She immediately called 911 at 2:31 a.m. and stayed on the phone with the operator until the first officer arrived on the scene. By this time, 5 minutes and 40 seconds had passed.

Darlie Lynn Peck Routier was born January 4, 1970 in Altoona, PA
Devon Routier was born June 14, 1989 in Rowlett or Dallas, TX
Damon Routier was born February 19, 1991 in Rowlett or Dallas, TX

Darlie's husband, Darin, and her infant son, Drake were upstairs when the "intruder" came in. Darin said he had gone upstairs and turned out the light and looked at the clock "close to one o'clock in the morning".

Darin Routier was born January 1, 1968 in Lubbock, TX
Drake Routier was born October 28, 1995 in Rowlett or Dallas, TX


Devon & Damon were killed; Darlie survived "an attack". Darin and Drake were not injured. Darlie was rushed into surgery at Baylor Medical Center at 3:40 a.m. She was released into ICU at 4:49 a.m.

Devon was already dead when paramedics arrived on the scene. Damon's time of death on his autopsy report says he passed at 3:26 a.m.

Jump to June 8th. Darin & Darlie were brought to the Rowlett Police Department for questioning and at that time Darlie was given her Miranda rights. They both made written statements: Darin at 4:55 p.m and Darlie at 4:49 p.m. On this same day, a private viewing at the funeral home for the family was scheduled for 8:00 p.m.. The funeral was the following day, the 9th at 2:00 p.m.

On June 14, 1996 there was a memorial service at 1:45 p.m. Devon for his 7th birthday. A Celebration of Life for Devon was at 6:30. This is where Darlie's teenage sister brought the silly string because she new Devon loved silly string. This silly string video was the one that was played over and over in the media. The video for the solemn memorial service was never released to the public.

June 18th at 10:20 p.m., Darlie was arrested and charged with capital murder.

The trial was moved to Kerrville. It began January 6, 1997 at 9:55 a.m.

On February 1, 1997, the judge read the verdict from the jury at 12:40 p.m. -guilty of capital murder. She was later sentenced to death (I don't have the date/time).

I am generally FOR the death penalty, and if she truly is guilty then I hope she gets what she deserves. However, there are so many questions with this trial, there is no way she should have been found guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". The DA kept too much from the defense. At the least, she deserves a fair trial.

Sorry for going on and on, but I really feel like an innocent women may be on Texas' Death Row. I can't find any birth times.

Here is her non-astrology thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49976&highlight=darlie+router[/quote]

I just got off the main Darlie forum and practically EVERYBODY thinks she is guilty and deserves the needle :( What are they seeing that I am not seeing?

I ordered the book "Horary Astrology Plain & Simple : Fast & Accurate Answers to Real World Questions" by
Anthony Louis. It's great!!!! But it will take a LONG time for me to attempt to be able to interpret the event chart for the night of the murder. I'm able to follow along, and I can usually keep up with Soulscape and Tuba on their interpetations but to stick my toe in the water for something so serious and go out on my own - can't do it! :eek:

So anyway, if someone wants to confirm or negate that Darlie is guilty or innocent, I am all ears (and eyes :) and would really appreciate it. :blowkiss:

Just can't help feeling there is no way I could have convicted her "beyond a reasonable doubt". There are too many questions left...

Thanks for listening to my rant. :crazy: I know all of the astros are very busy, but just wanted to say that just because I was asking about the time to use for Darlie's birthchart for a sunrise chart (and Soulscape so graciously posted her chart for me), please dont' let that stop you from your interpretation. :blushing:

Jaylergirl
06-24-2009, 01:26 PM
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Trenton Duckett, missing from Leesburg, Fl

Trenton J. Duckett -
Birth date: 8/10/2004 - Time of Birth 5:36 pm
Reported Missing: 8/27/2006 around 9:15 PM

Reported missing by his mother, Melinda Marie Duckett, from her Leesburg apartment. Less than 2 weeks after reporting Trenton missing, Melinda commits suicide in her grandparents home.

Melinda -
DOB: 8/14/1985 - Place of birth, Korea
DOD: 9/08/2006 - Time of death btwn 3 - 3:30 pm

Please, please, please!! Can you provide a chart for him? TIA

Sooner Fan#1
06-25-2009, 10:20 PM
This is an old case, 1993, if anyone has time this woman is looking for her dad.

OK-Daniel W. Cacy, Jr. - Missing since July 93 - Page 2 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

I understand you have many cases that are demanding your attention, I especially await you report on the WIX case too!

This is an amazing art and I am in awe...trying sooo hard to learn.

Any help is appreciated

OK-Daniel W. Cacy, Jr. - Missing since July 93
Crap. I just typed this all & it disappeared. (How appropriate. :))

On the thread in crimes in the news about the woman's body found in OK, several folks asked about my comment about my father missing for 16 years -- from OK. Several folks asked if there was a thread or if I would start one. So, thank you for the interest and here goes.....

I will have to post more as my step mother gets me details. I lived in another state when it happened & was not at the forefront of knowing the details. Just had to settle for what was told to me. The information I have is vague & many folks in my family have lived in denial. His life was far from savory & I think the police & FBI really had no interest in spending resources on trying to find him.

In July 93, he was living in McAlester. He was supposed to be going to Arkansas. He never made it. He had apparently been missing for a couple of weeks & my step mother did not report it (because of the things he was involved in.) It became a police report when his car was reported as abandoned in a parking lot in a different OK town about two weeks after he had already been missing. I'll have to confirm which town. I'm pretty sure it was north and east of McAlester. I think maybe Muskogee or Okmulgee.

B-day 1/31/43
Height 6'2" or 6'4" (is it bad that I don't know for sure?)
Weight probably 220 -- muscular guy. Big. The kind you'd be scared of in a dark alley.
Brown/Black hair w/beard
Brown eyes
Had tatoos. I'll have to confirm what they were.
I was told by the FBI that he had aliases, too.

So, this is what I have right now. I will post more when I get it. And, I'll upload a picture for the UID comparisons that I know some of you are sooooo good at. For all I know, he knew something he wasn't supposed to & has been put in a witness protection program.

Thanks to those who asked me to do this! It is not something I have had the wherewithall to even try to broach on my own.


What else do you need?

OK -- A bit more information.

- W is Willis
- He was in prison in Bastrop, TX from 84-87
- His abandoned car that was found was a 92 Buick Roadmaster.
- He had a viking on his right forearm.

Kenneth Ray Atkins was one of the folks he was involved with near the time of his disappearance. This is the guy from prison who would taunt people about what he claimed he knew & then never tell anything. On his death bed he apparently said he did not have anything to do with my father's death. He said that my father had talked about going to Costa Rica, because that was the only place you couldn't be extradited. (Don't know if he really said that or not, but I wouldn't put it past him!!!) She is a loyal W/S member!

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FifthEssence
06-25-2009, 10:32 PM
I hope it is OK to post this question here.

They say today Mercury is in retrograde. What does that really mean. Both Farah Fawcett and Michael Jackson died today, Ed McMann {sp} died yesterday. It might mean nothing but it seems curious to me. xox

Hi,
Am moving the celebrity related questions & responses over to our
Forensic Astrology- General thread.
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Just wanted to give you a heads up.

passionflower
06-30-2009, 10:02 PM
Did anyone do any charts on Micheal jackson with all this chaos going on in his life and death?

dreamweaver
07-01-2009, 12:48 PM
A chart has been done for Nancy Moyer.
But I was wondering with all the lunar and solar eclipses poised to happen,

would that mean there is a chance she will be found?

I posted this on the case briefings thread also. Unsure where to post.?



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Tabitha87
07-02-2009, 12:30 AM
Hi. I would like to request a chart be done on:

Douglas Stewart
D.O.B. - March 23th, 1984 (Time was of birth was not specified by his mother, but I could ask her for it, if it's needed)
Place of birth- Ottawa, On, Canada

D.O.D - February 18th, 2004 (A specific time of death has never been confirmed by LE, and his mother has never been given a police report regarding her sons death
Place of death - Ottawa, On, Canada

There is a person that was appearently believed to be the killer, although there was never enough proof to arrest this person. I can ask a friend for the person they believe comitted this murder if needed as well.

Douglas' mother has been hoping for some kind of justice for her son for the past 5 years, but there have been no leads in the case, although it still remains open. Police have been hush hush about this case though, so much that I couldn't even find a news article online from the year this happened. The only articles are from his mothers yearly vigils that she holds, in order to keep the publics awareness and for hope in that there may be a lead in this case

"On Feb. 18, 2004, Douglas, 19, was found bludgeoned to death in his east end apartment, his skull smashed in by a tire iron." Copied from one of the links below.

I really hope I have given enough information for a chart to be done. A chart for Douglas may help solve this horrible crime and let his parents, family and friends finally have some peace knowing that this have been solved and that the killer is brought to justice.

Thank you in advance!

http://www.eastottawa.ca/article-i78347-Mother-remembers-murdered-son-at-east-end-vigil.html

http://www.atv.ca/ottawa/news_66855.aspx

http://ottawa.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090217/OTT_Stewart_Vigil_090217/20090217?hub=OttawaHome

http://www.metronews.ca/ottawa/local/article/20326--four-years-of-grief

http://www.metronews.ca/ottawa/local/article/183706--mother-holds-vigil-for-murdered-son

shgrbkr
07-03-2009, 11:48 PM
Don't know if it's appropriate to ask here at w/s, but was wondering if any astros had looked into the Michael Jackson thing. Not sure of specific times here for this post, was just wondering in general what would show up on a chart of his death: June 25, 2009 at (I think) 2:38pm Pacific time. If this is an inappropriate question, accept my sincere apologies.

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http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/jan/14/still-no-sign-immokalee-boy/

Saturday 1/10/09

• 5 p.m. — Family members realize 6-year-old Adji Desir is missing from his grandmother’s Farm Worker Village home at 814 Grace St., Immokalee, FL (Collier County). Adji was wearing blue shorts and a blue T-shirt with yellow stripes when he disappeared.

• 7 p.m. — Family members call Collier County Sheriff’s Office after a 2-hour search.

• 7:42 p.m. — Deputies respond, begin searching Farm Worker Village and surrounding woods with bloodhounds, ATVs, on horseback, and in a helicopter. The first neighborhood canvass is conducted.

or

"My impression is they immediately called the Sheriff's office," Batten said. "At 7:15 he was watching TV and told his parents he was going outside to play with friends. We got the call at 7:42."

There are conflicting times when Adji was last seen, but 7:42pm is when he was reported missing.

Adji’s mother Marie Nadia, 36
stepfather Antal Elant, 41
Adji’s grandmother, Jesula Thebaud, 55

I believe all 3 of his relatives were born in Haiti, but I don't know where.

ETA: Here is Adji's WS thread #2 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81697


Respectfully bumping for little Adji again. I know you talented astros are very, very busy with requests, but I just wanted to keep Adji on your minds. I respect what you do, and I know many of us here care about Adji and would love to hear what you can tell us about his case. Thanks in advance!!! :blowkiss:

Adji Desir - Born October 15, 2002
Last seen January 10, 2009, 5:00-7:15 pm (reports vary) in Farm Worker Villiage, Immokalee, Collier County, Florida
Reported missing January 10, 2009, 7:00-7:42 pm (reports vary) to Collier County Sheriff's Office, Florida

Sweetbaby
07-15-2009, 08:12 PM
This happened within 5 miles from my home in a neighboring town. It's is a very sad case where a young woman (former missionary) and her 10 yr old stepson were brutally stabbed to death in July, 2006. It’s still unsolved, and I wondered if a couple of charts might help identify some clues. They really need to solve this one, and they are at a standstill.

What LE really needs are some clues as to who the perp is, or might be…location now (or his location in relation to the crime scene), description, age, relation to the victims, motivation, or any other info that might be gleaned on the perp(s) or reason for the murders. They quasi-cleared the husband (supposedly very upstanding Christian), but I don’t know. I found some info on civil suits, and a bankruptcy. I’m not sure if the (2nd) wife or child had insurance policies or not. Anyway – if one (or both) of the Astros could look at the case and maybe give some clues that would be awesome.

Here’s all the info I could find and thanks to all for any clues you can provide:

Victims:

Assuming (Johnson County) Franklin, IN on all POB

Chynna Lynne Dickus - DOB 1/22/80 - Death 7/24/06
(also see www.4chynna.com)
Last seen alive at 1:30 - 1:45 pm on 7/24/06

Blake Michael Dickus - Birth: Feb. 21, 1996
Last seen alive at 1:30 - 1:45 pm on 7/24/06

Death: Both were discovered brutally stabbed (and Blake stabbed & bludgeoned) at around 5 pm on Jul. 24, 2006
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Husband: Stephen S. "Sean" Dickus DOB 8/12/1972

Sean worked mere minutes away from his family's new home in the sleepy, upstart Branigin Creek subdivision. On his lunch break, Sean drove home to spend part of the afternoon with Chynna and his 10-year-old son, Blake. By all accounts, the family had a great time together.

Sean returned to work around 1:45 p.m. (Last Seen Alive), and remained there until the end of his shift at 5 p.m. (Found them when he returned home from work)

_____________snip from article August 2006

Both had been stabbed repeatedly and the boy had been struck with a blunt object, according to autopsy results.

Dickus, 33, told police he found the bodies when he came home that afternoon. Police have ruled him out as a possible suspect following the initial phase of an exhaustive investigation.

"Mr. Dickus has cooperated with us every step of the way," said Franklin Police Chief John Borges in a statement issued Thursday. "At this time, the investigation simply does not point to Mr. Dickus as a potential suspect."
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http://www.4chynna.com/

Chynna was my one and only daughter. She was taken away July 24th, 2006. Chynna, 26 and her stepson Blake, 10 were brutally murdered in their new home. They had just moved in about a month before. And Blake was over for his weekly visit. Little did they know something terrible was going to happen that afternoon? No one heard or saw anything, but someone took Chynna and Blake's life. They were found brutally stabbed to death that afternoon. Who was the last to see them alive? Who killed them?

They were last seen alive around lunch time. From that point on no one could reach her. Blake's grandmother was coming over to pick him up because he was going to go to a movie with his Mother.

America's Most Wanted Info:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=51938

AMW Case info:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=51938

Local Newspaper Article with lots of info:

http://www.4chynna.com/news_dj_20060726.html

Another article from local TV station:

http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=6827349&ClientType=Printable

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/9660161/detail.html

Any info to help solve the mystery of this case would be appreciated.

beckaroozie, I have been reading for many, many months and finally signed up. I have to say this case has bothered me and I am glad that you have mentioned it. I am in Indy also and was really shocked by these murders. I cannot imagine this crime staying unsloved. Those beautiful people lost and no one held accountable...yet. I always check back to see if there was ever a chart done on this. Thanks for all the information

salvarenga
07-16-2009, 08:28 PM
Is there any interest from the astrologers here on looking at charts related to these murders? This case seems to me to be one that's going to have many twists and turns. I would love to see some of your insights into this case.

daisy7
07-17-2009, 07:54 PM
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TUBA has posted a LAST SEEN chart for ADJI in our CASE BRIEFINGS Thread

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http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/jan/14/still-no-sign-immokalee-boy/

Saturday 1/10/09

• 5 p.m. — Family members realize 6-year-old Adji Desir is missing from his grandmother’s Farm Worker Village home at 814 Grace St., Immokalee, FL (Collier County). Adji was wearing blue shorts and a blue T-shirt with yellow stripes when he disappeared.

• 7 p.m. — Family members call Collier County Sheriff’s Office after a 2-hour search.

• 7:42 p.m. — Deputies respond, begin searching Farm Worker Village and surrounding woods with bloodhounds, ATVs, on horseback, and in a helicopter. The first neighborhood canvass is conducted.

or

"My impression is they immediately called the Sheriff's office," Batten said. "At 7:15 he was watching TV and told his parents he was going outside to play with friends. We got the call at 7:42."

There are conflicting times when Adji was last seen, but 7:42pm is when he was reported missing.

Adji’s mother Marie Nadia, 36
stepfather Antal Elant, 41
Adji’s grandmother, Jesula Thebaud, 55

I believe all 3 of his relatives were born in Haiti, but I don't know where.

ETA: Here is Adji's WS thread #2 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81697

Respectfully bumping for little Adji. It's been more than 6 months since he disappeared:(

who knew?
07-25-2009, 12:11 AM
Is there any interest from the astrologers here on looking at charts related to these murders? This case seems to me to be one that's going to have many twists and turns. I would love to see some of your insights into this case.

I agree - this is an interesting case.

dreamweaver
07-28-2009, 01:48 PM
ID - 8 year old Robert Manwill, Boise - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Robert Manwill, 8 yrs old, missing since 7/24/9.
Lots of info on thread.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=1128002&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

dob: 6/8/2001
date missing: 7/24/2009
time missing: story has changed: 9:30pm first.
now
last seen , maybe 7;30pm 7/24/2009.

Family:
Robert lives with his dad and step mom,
but this summer, staying with his mother, who has reduced visitation and her bf.
Mother was convicted of injuring her baby last Oct.


Could we get an idea if this boy is safe or not?
Thank you.


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Recovering-Lurker
07-29-2009, 01:58 PM
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Forensic Astrology - Robert Manwill 8 yr old missing 7/24/09 Boise, ID - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

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ID - 8 year old Robert Manwill, Boise - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87061)

Robert Manwill, 8 yrs old, missing since 7/24/9.
Lots of info on thread.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=1128002&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

dob: 6/8/2001
date missing: 7/24/2009
time missing: story has changed: 9:30pm first.
now
last seen , maybe 7;30pm 7/24/2009.

Family:
Robert lives with his dad and step mom,
but this summer, staying with his mother, who has reduced visitation and her bf.
Mother was convicted of injuring her baby last Oct.


Could we get an idea if this boy is safe or not?
Thank you.

I would love to know if he is safe or not as well, and/or if any family members may be involved in his disappearance. TIA.

passionflower
07-29-2009, 02:53 PM
Cherrie Mahan, Cabot PA
someone has brought up her cold case.
Will get inbfo over here, have to do some errands.........
but would like to know what charts have to say about her disappearance 22 years ago,
and anything on step father's chart.
will be back, mom's birthday!

passionflower
07-29-2009, 02:57 PM
CHERRIE ANN MAHAN, 8, Missing: Feb 22, 1985 Cabot, PA - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

quick info on Cherrie Mahan..............cold case

Angel Who Cares
07-29-2009, 04:32 PM
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quote=dreamweaver;3994417]ID - 8 year old Robert Manwill, Boise - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Robert Manwill, 8 yrs old, missing since 7/24/9.
Lots of info on thread.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=1128002&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

dob: 6/8/2001
date missing: 7/24/2009
time missing: story has changed: 9:30pm first.
now
last seen , maybe 7;30pm 7/24/2009.

Family:
Robert lives with his dad and step mom,
but this summer, staying with his mother, who has reduced visitation and her bf.
Mother was convicted of injuring her baby last Oct.


Could we get an idea if this boy is safe or not?
Thank you.[/quote]

Adding a birthdate that another poster has found today. I'm also asking if you could if you have time to take a look at this case.
Along with an article that has some good info in it for you all.
TIA

Robert Manwill Birthplace: Robert was born in Boise, Idaho
Link to poster who supplied a few of these dates, but they weren't able to post a link where they got the info from. Poster swears it is all correct though!
Here's the link to the post for you:
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - ID - 8 year old Robert Manwill, Boise

Mother he was visiting: Melissa Scott Jenkins DOB: is 7/19/79 -place of birth not known

Melissa Jenkins' boyfriend and the father of her infant son - has served time in Idaho prisons and faced multiple charges.
Daniel Edward Ehrlick's DOB: is 11/9/72 -place of birth unknown

Robert's Dad's ex Wife (Charlie Manwill):
SILKE MANWILL DOB: is 02-27-1970 -place of birth unknown


Here is an good article with a lot of background info on his family etc. for you. I will add any other birthdates that are found.

Trail of tragedy follows family of missing 8-year-old Boise boy
In the hunt for Robert Manwill, an anguished family legacy emerges.
Published: 07/29/09
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On the fifth day of an exhaustive search for a missing Boise boy, court documents revealed a family tale of abuse, tragedy and more.

Robert Manwill's mother is on probation for fracturing the skull of Robert's infant half brother, a boy the state removed from her custody.

Robert's mother's boyfriend has been convicted of burglary, battery and possession of drug paraphernalia, and is banned by the courts from being alone with Robert's half sister.

Robert's father, meanwhile, has already lost a son. In 1993, his first wife stabbed their 4-year-old boy in the chest. She spent 10 years in a federal prison after pleading guilty to voluntary manslaughter.

Boise police won't talk about the family or the details contained in the court documents.

Police say the family is cooperating fully.
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ROBERT'S MOM:
Melissa Scott Jenkins pleaded guilty in March to a misdemeanor charge of injury to a child, after an October 2008 incident that left her infant son with a fractured skull.

According to court records, Jenkins "did willfully inflict" the wound "by striking the child's head on a surface, causing a fracture to the child's skull," on Oct. 19, 2008. She was sentenced to 29 days of work release, fined $75.50 and put on probation for two years.

In February, at least, the child was still in the care of the state Department of Health and Welfare, court documents said.
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HER BOYFRIEND:
Daniel Edward Ehrlick - Jenkins' boyfriend and the father of her infant son - has served time in Idaho prisons and faced multiple charges.

An April 2008 court document outlining Jenkins' visitation rights with her 2 1/2-year-old daughter states that the girl shall never be left "alone with Danny Ehrlick." The document does not say why.

Ehrlick, too, attended press conferences with the family.
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ROBERT'S DAD:
Robert Manwill's father, Charles Manwill, has had custody of the boy since January 2008, according to court records.

The records show Jenkins was admitted to the hospital that month for early pregnancy complications and was unable to care for Robert, who has lived with his dad in New Plymouth ever since. Jenkins has visitation rights, and the boy was visiting her the night he disappeared.

Almost 15 years earlier, Manwill was an officer at Fort Polk Military Base in Louisiana, in his early 20s and married to a woman named Silke Fatma Manwill.

In November 1993, according to federal court documents and Louisiana newspaper reports, Silke Manwill "upon sudden quarrel and in the heat of passion" stabbed their 4-year-old son, Michael, in the chest.

She was charged with first-degree murder; that charge was dropped when she pleaded guilty to voluntary
manslaughter.

She served 10 years in federal prison and was released in 2002, federal documents show. Her sentence included five more years of supervised release.

Video: Latest news conference about the search for Robert Manwill
http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Police/Multimedia/DepartmentVideos/LatestManwillPresserV1.wmv

Article:
http://www.idahostatesman.com/eyepiece/story/848900.html
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Where is Robert?
Robert Manwill was last seen Friday night near his mother's apartment on Cherry Lane off Vista Avenue.

Police officials said Tuesday they are working to map out what Robert did Friday before he disappeared. They are asking the public's help for any clues but have offered few details - like where he was seen last or if there is any evidence that the boy might have run away.

The family told police that the boy liked to sneak around and hide in small places. Police officials say Robert likely is still in the area but declined to say why they think so.

Initial reports indicated the boy was last seen at an apartment playground sometime between 7 and 9 p.m., but police officials could not say Tuesday whether that was accurate. The family reported the boy missing at 10:11 p.m., police said.

Police have received more than 100 tips from residents since Friday. More than 100 volunteers have been helping police and the FBI search. About 100 registered sex offenders living in the area have been interviewed.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/BOISE/story/848900.html
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Here is the link to the thread on Robert Manwill
ID - 8 year old Robert Manwill, Boise
ID - 8 year old Robert Manwill, Boise - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


P.S. Thanks Fifth for adding the mother''s DOB! :blowkiss:

:angel:

savannahanna
07-29-2009, 08:36 PM
Angel who cares thank you for bringing the disappearance of Robert Manwill information to post on this thread. I live here locally and everyone is being asked to volunteer for a search for this little boy. I don't know how to post link on info here but sure wish Tuba and some of other wonderful astros can do a chart to point to a search area. Per police we all will be looking for a "dump" site. Little info being released.
Many thanks again Angel,
Savannahanna

Tuba
07-29-2009, 08:53 PM
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Sweetbaby
07-30-2009, 10:44 AM
I have respectfully bumped this post! I know the wonderful people have been very busy with all of the cases given to them to chart but this one has bothered me for many reasons. I live in Indy and it was big local news for some time but has not been reported on lately. I also have a personal reason for wanting to see a chart on this crime (I hope that is not inappropriate). There was a man I had known and was sure was dangerous. In my mind for some reason I always thought of him when this crime came up in the news, with no reason to think he was involved other than my total fear of what he might do. I cut ties with anyone related to him, then he made the national news for a horrific crime. At that time I began to remember statements made to me by his wife (sadly I kept a diary because I did think he was that dangerous) I was able to connect some of his actions to dates associated with this crime. I obviously contacted the detectives and gave them any info I thought may be usefully. I trust they have investigated fully. I was unable to let it go and my fear that he could be involved ate at me. I consulted a psychic thinking they could tell me if he did it or not...well I guess it doesnt work that way but I found out in speaking with this psychic that he had consulted with a family member about this crime also. I thought that was odd. This crime is so awful and the victims were so beautiful and were obviously very special I think everyone in thier lives deserves to know who commited this crime! Sorry to ramble on and on but I really appreciate any time you are able to dedicate to this case!! Thanks with the most respect for your talents!!:blowkiss:


This happened within 5 miles from my home in a neighboring town. It's is a very sad case where a young woman (former missionary) and her 10 yr old stepson were brutally stabbed to death in July, 2006. It’s still unsolved, and I wondered if a couple of charts might help identify some clues. They really need to solve this one, and they are at a standstill.

What LE really needs are some clues as to who the perp is, or might be…location now (or his location in relation to the crime scene), description, age, relation to the victims, motivation, or any other info that might be gleaned on the perp(s) or reason for the murders. They quasi-cleared the husband (supposedly very upstanding Christian), but I don’t know. I found some info on civil suits, and a bankruptcy. I’m not sure if the (2nd) wife or child had insurance policies or not. Anyway – if one (or both) of the Astros could look at the case and maybe give some clues that would be awesome.

Here’s all the info I could find and thanks to all for any clues you can provide:

Victims:

Assuming (Johnson County) Franklin, IN on all POB

Chynna Lynne Dickus - DOB 1/22/80 - Death 7/24/06
(also see www.4chynna.com)
Last seen alive at 1:30 - 1:45 pm on 7/24/06

Blake Michael Dickus - Birth: Feb. 21, 1996
Last seen alive at 1:30 - 1:45 pm on 7/24/06

Death: Both were discovered brutally stabbed (and Blake stabbed & bludgeoned) at around 5 pm on Jul. 24, 2006
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Husband: Stephen S. "Sean" Dickus DOB 8/12/1972

Sean worked mere minutes away from his family's new home in the sleepy, upstart Branigin Creek subdivision. On his lunch break, Sean drove home to spend part of the afternoon with Chynna and his 10-year-old son, Blake. By all accounts, the family had a great time together.

Sean returned to work around 1:45 p.m. (Last Seen Alive), and remained there until the end of his shift at 5 p.m. (Found them when he returned home from work)

_____________snip from article August 2006

Both had been stabbed repeatedly and the boy had been struck with a blunt object, according to autopsy results.

Dickus, 33, told police he found the bodies when he came home that afternoon. Police have ruled him out as a possible suspect following the initial phase of an exhaustive investigation.

"Mr. Dickus has cooperated with us every step of the way," said Franklin Police Chief John Borges in a statement issued Thursday. "At this time, the investigation simply does not point to Mr. Dickus as a potential suspect."
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http://www.4chynna.com/

Chynna was my one and only daughter. She was taken away July 24th, 2006. Chynna, 26 and her stepson Blake, 10 were brutally murdered in their new home. They had just moved in about a month before. And Blake was over for his weekly visit. Little did they know something terrible was going to happen that afternoon? No one heard or saw anything, but someone took Chynna and Blake's life. They were found brutally stabbed to death that afternoon. Who was the last to see them alive? Who killed them?

They were last seen alive around lunch time. From that point on no one could reach her. Blake's grandmother was coming over to pick him up because he was going to go to a movie with his Mother.

America's Most Wanted Info:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/brief.cfm?id=51938

AMW Case info:

http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=51938

Local Newspaper Article with lots of info:

http://www.4chynna.com/news_dj_20060726.html

Another article from local TV station:

http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=6827349&ClientType=Printable

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/9660161/detail.html

Any info to help solve the mystery of this case would be appreciated.

daisy7
08-05-2009, 11:51 AM
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http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2009/jan/14/still-no-sign-immokalee-boy/

Saturday 1/10/09

• 5 p.m. — Family members realize 6-year-old Adji Desir is missing from his grandmother’s Farm Worker Village home at 814 Grace St., Immokalee, FL (Collier County). Adji was wearing blue shorts and a blue T-shirt with yellow stripes when he disappeared.

• 7 p.m. — Family members call Collier County Sheriff’s Office after a 2-hour search.

• 7:42 p.m. — Deputies respond, begin searching Farm Worker Village and surrounding woods with bloodhounds, ATVs, on horseback, and in a helicopter. The first neighborhood canvass is conducted.

or

"My impression is they immediately called the Sheriff's office," Batten said. "At 7:15 he was watching TV and told his parents he was going outside to play with friends. We got the call at 7:42."

There are conflicting times when Adji was last seen, but 7:42pm is when he was reported missing.

Adji’s mother Marie Nadia, 36
stepfather Antal Elant, 41
Adji’s grandmother, Jesula Thebaud, 55

I believe all 3 of his relatives were born in Haiti, but I don't know where.

ETA: Here is Adji's WS thread #2 http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81697

Respectfully, bumping for little Adji.

dreamweaver
08-10-2009, 07:55 PM
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Robert 'Bob' Merle Harrod:
He has been missing since July 27, 2009.
He reconnected with an old friend just this year.
They married June 29, 2009.
He disappeared July 27, 2009.

Robert's information:

dob: unk ; will find
date missing persons report filed.:

last seen 11:00a.m., 7/27/2009, Placentia, CA

Story:
Robert's wife passed away last year.
An old girlfriend, Fontelle
Heeter, got in touch with him in May 2009.
She came to visit in June 2009. They got married six days later, 6/29/2009.
Fontelle says she was engaged to Robert over 50 years ago.
But that Robert went into the Korean war and she did not hear from him again.
They both went on to marry other people and raised a family.

A few days after 6/29/9, she returned to MO, to pack her belongings to move to CA.
They talked two times daily by phone.
But,
on July 27, 2009, Robert was said to have sent his son in law to Home Depot to pick up some building supplies for a repair in his house.
Son in law says left about 11:00am. He returned about 1:00 pm, Robert was not there.
A cleaning person was there, waiting outside for at least one half hour.
Robert seems to have had an argument with a family member that day.

Family says that Robert had been helping out a 45 yr old woman friend.
There was some thought that maybe he got cold feet and got in touch with this person.
But Robert left with his wallet and car keys.
His car and his checkbook were left at the house.

Family says Robert never mentioned Fontelle over the years and that Fontelle would have been just 15 yrs old at the time of that engagement years ago.
Family also says that their father had been happier since he started talking with Fontelle than anytime in the past year.


http://www.placentiapd.org/pd/

http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_12946442?nclick_check=1

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-missing-groom31-2009jul31,0,5435017.story
http://mobile.latimes.com/inf/infomo?view=page7&feed:a=latimes_1min&feed:c=localnews&feed:i=48378115

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535895,00.html
http://cbs2.com/local/newlywed.groom.missing.2.1120666.html

Robert "Bob" Merle Harrod, 81, Missing Since 7/27/09, Placentia, CA - Help Find The Missing
Bob Harrod, 81 yr old newlywed, Placentia,CA - 7/26/09 - In Session Message Boards
CA-Orange County, Bob Harrod, 81 Missing - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Snick1946
08-11-2009, 08:22 PM
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I have respectfully bumped this post! I know the wonderful people have been very busy with all of the cases given to them to chart but this one has bothered me for many reasons. I live in Indy and it was big local news for some time but has not been reported on lately. I also have a personal reason for wanting to see a chart on this crime (I hope that is not inappropriate). There was a man I had known and was sure was dangerous. In my mind for some reason I always thought of him when this crime came up in the news, with no reason to think he was involved other than my total fear of what he might do. I cut ties with anyone related to him, then he made the national news for a horrific crime. At that time I began to remember statements made to me by his wife (sadly I kept a diary because I did think he was that dangerous) I was able to connect some of his actions to dates associated with this crime. I obviously contacted the detectives and gave them any info I thought may be usefully. I trust they have investigated fully. I was unable to let it go and my fear that he could be involved ate at me. I consulted a psychic thinking they could tell me if he did it or not...well I guess it doesnt work that way but I found out in speaking with this psychic that he had consulted with a family member about this crime also. I thought that was odd. This crime is so awful and the victims were so beautiful and were obviously very special I think everyone in thier lives deserves to know who commited this crime! Sorry to ramble on and on but I really appreciate any time you are able to dedicate to this case!! Thanks with the most respect for your talents!!:blowkiss:

There has been some suggestion on this board that this case may be linked to a similar double murder in Omaha- please refer to the 'Omaha Double Murder' thread under 'Current Events". A chart was done on that crime with some interesting results.
My personal opinion is that the crimes, while similar, are not related. But both involved a woman and a child victim with the father finding them when coming home from work. I hope you can get some help here and if any relation exists the FA staff can help with it. Good luck!

kpdx
08-12-2009, 03:55 PM
When you have the time, I wondered if you could make a chart for one of my "pet" cases. This is such a sad story, and despite active interest and continued efforts on Grace's sister's part there is no new information on where the bodies can be found.

Grace M. Canto Reapp
Missing since June 6, 1978 from Jericho, Chittenden County, Vermont
Date Of Birth: October 1, 1945

Grace Noel Reapp
Missing since June 6, 1978 from Jericho, Chittenden County, Vermont
Date Of Birth: February 10, 1973

here is more info on charley: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/r/reapp_grace.html

many thanks and god bless.

dreamweaver
08-13-2009, 05:50 AM
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Robert 'Bob' Merle Harrod:
He has been missing since July 27, 2009.
An old girl friend called him in May 2009.
She came to visit June 23, 2009.
They married June 29, 2009, in Fullerton, CA.
He disappeared July 27, 2009.

Robert's information:

dob: 06/01/1928
date last seen: 7/27/2009, about 11:00a.m, Placentia, CA.
date missing persons report filed.: 07/28/2009: about 3:00am, CDT, Kansas City time. Fontelle called from Kansas City.

Story:
Robert's wife passed away last year.
An old girlfriend, Fontelle Heeter, got in touch with him in May 2009.
She came to visit in June 2009. They got married six days later, 6/29/2009.
They had gone to get a marriage license and just decided to get married right then and there.
Fontelle says she was engaged to Robert over 55 years ago.
But then Robert went into the Korean war and she did not hear from him again.
They both went on to marry other people and raised their own families.

A few days after their marriage 6/29/9, Fontelle returned to Kansas City, MO, to pack her belongings to move to CA.
Robert and Fontelle talked two times daily by phone.
But,
on July 27, 2009, Robert was said to have sent his son in law to Home Depot to pick up some building supplies for a repair in his house.
Son in law says left about 11:00am. He returned about 1:00 pm, Robert was not there.
A cleaning person was there, waiting outside for at least one half hour.

Robert is said to argued with a family member that day.

Family says that Robert had been helping out a 45 yr old woman friend.
There was some thought that maybe he got cold feet about the marriage and got in touch with this person.

His eye glasses, checkbook and his car were left at the house.
His wallet and car keys are missing.
There has been no activity on his bank account or credit cards.

Family says Robert never mentioned Fontelle over the years and that Fontelle would have been just 15 yrs old at the time of that engagement years ago.
Family also says that Robert did not serve in Korea, but was based in CA, as a cook.
Family also says that their father had been happier since he started talking with Fontelle than anytime in the past year.


http://www.placentiapd.org/pd/

http://www.contracostatimes.com/california/ci_12946442?nclick_check=1

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-missing-groom31-2009jul31,0,5435017.story
http://mobile.latimes.com/inf/infomo?view=page7&feed:a=latimes_1min&feed:c=localnews&feed:i=48378115

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535895,00.html
http://cbs2.com/local/newlywed.groom.missing.2.1120666.html

Robert "Bob" Merle Harrod, 81, Missing Since 7/27/09, Placentia, CA - Help Find The Missing (http://www.helpfindthemissing.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15836)
Bob Harrod, 81 yr old newlywed, Placentia,CA - 7/26/09 - In Session Message Boards (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=356608)
CA-Orange County, Bob Harrod, 81 Missing - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4026905#post4026905)

I hope a chart can be done for Robert Harrod. He is 81 yrs old and has been missing for 17 days now.
Thank you for all the good work you do.

Sweetbaby
08-13-2009, 08:14 AM
There has been some suggestion on this board that this case may be linked to a similar double murder in Omaha- please refer to the 'Omaha Double Murder' thread under 'Current Events". A chart was done on that crime with some interesting results.
My personal opinion is that the crimes, while similar, are not related. But both involved a woman and a child victim with the father finding them when coming home from work. I hope you can get some help here and if any relation exists the FA staff can help with it. Good luck!


I have heard that speculation, I also dont think these are related just a very sad similarity in stories. I will go look at the chart though. IMO the crime is local and sadly the murderer may have been working construction but that is my inexperienced opinion. Thank you so much for caring! If you look at the pictures of the victims they will stay with you forever...two of the most happy, beautiful people. :blowkiss:

Knox
08-19-2009, 01:04 AM
Chart already posted, thanks Fifth!

FifthEssence
08-19-2009, 01:23 AM
respectfully shortened


Repectfully Requesting;

Brock & Davina (nee DeBoni) Husted, both 42 years old. Two children, 11 year old daughter, 9 year old son (names unknown).
Brock ‘Gus’ Husted, DOB 7/15/66 born in Hidden Hills CA--------Davina Marie (DeBoni) Husted, DOB 7/31/66, birthplace not listed (pretty sure it is Somis, CA)
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KNOX, excellent layout of details!

TUBA posted a Chart for this case back on 6/3/09 the the CASE BRIEFINGS Thread
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dreamweaver
08-23-2009, 08:55 PM
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We have opened a thread dedicated to the ROBERT HARROD case


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'snipped original request from case briefing:' date 8/10/2009
adding Robert's place of birth
adding Fontelle's dob of birth and state of birth

''Robert 'Bob' Merle Harrod:
He has been missing since July 27, 2009.
He reconnected with an old friend just this year.
They married June 29, 2009.
He disappeared July 27, 2009.''

new:
Robert Harrod's
Place of birth: McFall, MO

new wife, Fontelle's dob: 01/12/1936
new wife's place of birth: city unknown: state - MO.

Robert is 81 yrs old. His wife of 59 yrs died in 2008.
And old girlfriend contacted him in May. She came to visit
him June 23, 2009. They married June 26, 2009.
She left to pack up her home in MO several days later.
On July 27, 2009, Robert disappeared.

.......more in original request for case briefing.............

Thanks to all the WS astrologers for their hard work and dedication.
I truly understand the need to work on missing children's cases first.
And as we all know, there are many unsolved murder cases out there as well.

When you can, I hope you will be able to do a chart for Robert Harrod.

terminatrixator
08-24-2009, 02:45 PM
In April I wrote regarding the April 26, 2005 murder of Janet Christiansen Abaroa and her unborn child. Some of us WS'ers have been following the case since the beginning. Here's the post here in Forensic section.

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I'm just writing to inform you all that this Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 10/9central ABC Primetime Crime with host John Quinones will be airing "What happened to Janet Abaroa" for anyone that is interested in this case.

I'm still very interested in the forensic astrology done on this case, when you are all available, but wanted to throw this quick note to you about the airing.

distracted
08-26-2009, 09:46 PM
**********BROUGHT HOME SAFELY, not KIDNAPPED**********


I was wondering whether you could do a chart for the two girls missing in Temecula. Here are some details:


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Search on for missing Riverside County teenage girls
By J. Harry Jones
Union-Tribune Staff Writer
Originally published 11:29 a.m. August 24, 2009, updated 4:14 p.m., August 24, 2009
Julianne Buzzelli, 16, and Alexis "Lexi" Bailey, 15. - Riverside sheriff's detectives are searching for two teenage girls who disappeared from a home near Temecula Friday night and haven't been seen since

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/aug/24/bn25missing11295/?northcounty&zIndex=154525

Here's a recent article:

http://www.pe.com/localnews/rivcounty/stories/PE_News_Local_S_missing25.433dc54.html

Just a little background I've gathered:
The two girls were having a sleepover at the Bailey home. When Lexi's mom checked on them around 11:45 there were gone. Evidently, they snuck out of the house. They have not been seen since. There was a party in the Escondito area it is believed that they went to and there was a call from Julianne's cell phone from that area around 2:45 or 3:00 a.m. to a cab company but the cab company has no record of picking up any girls at that time. There were also several suspicious calls to a man in that area prior to the time they went missing but LE says this person has no knowledge of the girls. LE is treating this as a runaway case but both families don't believe either of the girls would leave with only the clothes they were wearing and very little money. I don't know if there birthdates have been released yet. There is a thread on the girls in the "missing" forum. Here it is:

CA-Two teenage girls missing from Temecula - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Thank you so much. We all value what you do.

Jaylergirl
08-27-2009, 01:18 PM
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LeoMoon has posted a chart in the CASE BRIEFINGS thread.

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[QUOTE=Jaylergirl;3226080]Trenton Duckett, missing from Leesburg, Fl

Trenton J. Duckett -
Birth date: 8/10/2004
Reported Missing: 8/27/2006 at 9:00 PM

Reported missing by his mother, Melinda Marie Duckett, from her Leesburg apartment. Less than 2 weeks after reporting Trenton missing, Melinda commits suicide in her grandparents home.

Melinda -
DOB: 8/14/1985
DOD: 9/08/2006


Bumping on the 3rd Anniversary of Trenton's disappearance!

My heart is heavy today thinking about Trenton! His disappearance captured my heart & there is not a day that doesn't go by that I don't think of him & wonder where he is.

Wishing that someone, anyone can give some insight as to where he is and it will finally bring this baby home, no matter the outcome! The family & the thousands that were touched by him need closure!!

Thanks

Tuba
08-29-2009, 11:30 AM
The graphic of Adji Desir's Last Seen chart has been completed. As soon as I write out the analysis underneath, I will post it in the briefings thread. I appreciate the precise information given here and neglected in the broadcasts on this disappearance.



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Salem
08-29-2009, 11:51 AM
Tuba - thank you so much for doing a chart on Adji. I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate it, as do others in Adji's thread.

I know you guys are busy with all these cases - peace and love to you for finding time for Adji. He so deserves to come home.

Salem

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TUBA has posted a LAST SEEN chart for ADJI in our CASE BRIEFINGS Thread

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