P.I. Casey denies he knew where Caylee's remains were [Archive] - Page 2

faefrost

02-20-2009, 11:01 AM

No way do I think this came from JB. I'm betting an underling in the case like KFN, Joy, or someone like that in their orbit. But wouldn't it be delicious if it was JB or his camp?

It had to come from JB. DC almost as much as said it when he indicated it was a matter of privilege. That right there means 100% absolutely that it had to come directly from either one of the lawyers who employed him or directly from the clients mouth.

Since he was employed by the A's directly with no lawyer between them there is no privelege. KFN certainly has no privilege. The only people that he has dealt with in this matter, that would have privilege (and in all liklihood know where the body was) are KC herself, JB and any other lawyers at his firm. The only other source of privilege might be if he determined the body location via information revealed in work product from within JB's office. (ie he read some paperwork there).

And lets follow the breadcrumbs here. There was only 2 possible paths of actual information concerning the bodies location to come to DC. The information starts with KC, no if's ands or butts. It was too specific to just be a lucky guess. From KC it either had to pass to the A's while she was out on bail (something that I think would have been revealed in some other way, and much earlier if it had happened), or via KC's privileged conversations with JB. Of these paths JB looks like the far more likely one.

MAMABEAR

02-20-2009, 11:24 AM

Interview with Ginette: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khj6bW3ivCc

Here is another interview with her by FOX 35:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJPPUJ5-BIs&NR=1
Does she say she received a teddy bear of caylee's from a middle man?

Paintr

02-20-2009, 11:29 AM

The thing about that is that I'm unclear if Jose is working for Cindy in addition to just Casey. Dom says it wasn't someone working for the Ants. But Jose is obviously meeting with them, etc. Very involved. What constitutes "working for" them? While there might not be a contract with Jose, Jose does seem to be working for the Ants as well as Casey in some way? IDK

But surely Jose is not that stupid.

I am also unclear as to who is working for whom. Both BC and JB seem to wander 'at will' back and forth. Maybe it is a joint effort?

LOL! I cannot respond to your last sentence or I will go poof. :chicken:

amysmom

02-20-2009, 11:35 AM

That convo was certainly interesting wasn't it? JB is the only person I can think of that would fit here.

Lee also fits (OJ charges?) but that doesn't exclude JB..He's the perfect fit!

If they both gave DC the same instructions (by chance) it doesn't = he gave both up..I see him protecting CA's son vs JB..DC has to know he's got a good gig (in with the A's) even tho he appeared to be a dimwit in this interview..He also showed time & again he had no fear of LYING so letting Lee off the hook wouldn't have been a big deal to him.

DianeB

02-20-2009, 11:46 AM

amysmom

02-20-2009, 12:02 PM

There's no privilege attached to DC's conversations with Lee Anthony.

True but like I said he could've played the same role as JB & if DC did give him up I don't think he'd want it known to CA..That's a seperate issue from JB & privilege..A few things make me think he may have been included..DC got very nervous when it came time to reveal WHO was involved..I don't think he would've been over JB as much as Lee.. He seems to be very close with the A's & he wouldn't want to see his job with them go bye-bye either..

DianeB

02-20-2009, 12:15 PM

True but like I said he could've played the same role as JB & if DC did give him up I don't think he'd want it known to CA..That's a seperate issue from JB & privilege..A few things make me think he may have been included..DC got very nervous when it came time to reveal WHO was involved..I don't think he would've been over JB as much as Lee.. He seems to be very close with the A's & he wouldn't want to see his job with them go bye-bye either..Interesting theory, but boy he didn't have any problem throwing Lee under the bus (if it was Lee). "I'll tell you right out", he said!

MAMABEAR

02-20-2009, 12:22 PM

Can somebody say Daisy Chain Alert! Mamabear I think looking at JH as a plant has lots of merit. But there are other places to look besides LE. And he was not as forthcoming as one would wish an LE plant to be.

Remember on the Jon Benet case when that National Enquirer investigative reporter basically "imbedded" himself in the case like he was in a war zone - cooperating with LE sometimes, digging up his own dirt other times? And then wrote a book? Those rags do have a reputation for some good investigative reporting although their methods are a little shady and certainly cross the lines of ethical conduct sometimes. It certainly worked in the OJ case as well. What if the JH appearance (and he is clearly not on anyone's visible payroll) goes a bit farther back? What if he was contracted out by the famous TB aka Gil to dig up stuff from all camps or angles that would be brokerable to various media outlets? What if he is an embedded "reporter"? Or what if DC asks him along all the time because JH is the real representative? Let's face it, who is even paying for DC? George and Cindy? We might have that relationship completely reversed.

And this G Lucas connection. First she receives a teddy bear of Caylee's she gets "nothing" from. Who sent her that? Who wanted her to be involved? I don't recall psychics being solicited. Kathy Bellich kinda shot her reputation down on NG with that testimony from two former clients. KFN advertised that they have used a "reputable" psychic in the past, which reads to me they have one they can use as a cover if need be. Who needed her to suddenly be involved as a cover story?

And what if G Lucas was the deniability factor here - as a cover for DC and JH to look for and discover the body (for whatever purpose was in mind - either to report as found or destroy as evidence). Who might want the body found? It's hard for me to think it would be JB or KC. GA or CA might - and for various reasons. But who, if not them, might want it not reported to LE? Well, if not JB, then maybe somebody else who would stand to profit? Like a media broker like Todd?? The money trail, I still say follow the money and we will find who is doing what and why.
BOLD----> ME
WOW!!!!!!!!! I have been thinkin real hard about TB. I do know that this mess is being controlled. Somebody is the puppeteer here. Wonder if there is a connection between TB and KNF. Maybe some of these folks have been in prison together. There is a connection here.

WTG cecybeans :bowdown::bow:
:hourglass:

LancelotLink

02-20-2009, 12:34 PM

I think Ginnette Lucas was an afterthought. Why she went along with this, who knows?

reeseeva

02-20-2009, 12:39 PM

I think Ginnette Lucas was an afterthought. Why she went along with this, who knows?:waitasec:

Where are her phone records?? Why didn't NG follow up on that:confused:

These things need to be followed thru.

SeriouslySearching

02-20-2009, 12:43 PM

Why couldn't it have come from Casey if he was visiting with her at home or in jail? Perhaps she "tipped" her hand a bit too much. Would it still be priviledged information then?

justbeachy

02-20-2009, 12:47 PM

:waitasec:

Where are her phone records?? Why didn't NG follow up on that:confused:

These things need to be followed thru.

I was just getting ready to ask this! I mean, this should not be a topic of confusion. It should be pretty cut and dry...either there is a record of the phone call(s) or there isn't.

faefrost

02-20-2009, 01:41 PM

Why couldn't it have come from Casey if he was visiting with her at home or in jail? Perhaps she "tipped" her hand a bit too much. Would it still be priviledged information then?

Because in his statement he specifically dances around and comes up with the word privilege. That has a very specific meaning. It would only apply to him if he was party to direct comunications between KC and JB while in JB's employ, or he was generating work product specifically directed by and for JB.

If KC spoke to him outside the precense of her lawyer, there is no privelege. If she said it to him in jail without JB being there it would have been observed, recorded and used against her.

No matter how you slice it, if the word privilege is used in the interview, then it means JB is up to his armpits in it.

faefrost

02-20-2009, 01:43 PM

:waitasec:

Where are her phone records?? Why didn't NG follow up on that:confused:

These things need to be followed thru.

When does NG follow up on anything? She asks a question, drops a bombshell then immediately cuts to something else with no explanation or follow up.

I really wish GVS would drop all the Sarah Palin and political cr@p and go back to actually doing law and crime stories.

LancelotLink

02-20-2009, 01:49 PM

:waitasec:

Where are her phone records?? Why didn't NG follow up on that:confused:

These things need to be followed thru.

Well, Ginette made it fairly clear that she would be glad to turn over her phone records IF LE asked for it. That told me she was not wiling to be forthcoming to NG, KB, or anyone else in the media. Especially after the tag team smack down she got from those two. :woohoo:

I hope that LE followed up on Ginnette and I hope this will be included in the second interview.

LancelotLink

02-20-2009, 02:10 PM

Listening to the transcript is very telling! LOL
Part One
http://www.wftv.com/video/18760256/index.html

Meagain

02-20-2009, 02:12 PM

Woulda been even more fun if we had video. This is going to be hysterical.

LancelotLink

02-20-2009, 02:16 PM

Woulda been even more fun if we had video. This is going to be hysterical.

Yeah. Like I'm totally freakin' out...LOL
elissabee started a thread for discussion-
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80106

amysmom

02-20-2009, 02:42 PM

Interesting theory, but boy he didn't have any problem throwing Lee under the bus (if it was Lee). "I'll tell you right out", he said!

IIRC..They were playing a back&forth game (eliminating sources) when BC had enough of it & encouraged DC to come clean already..That's when DC made that statement you have above.

Just to be clear I don't think it's ONLY Lee if at all..They made it kinda obvious it referred to JB.

I threw Lee in the mix as a 2nd possible culprit cos of the OJ charges he may be facing & the reaction from DC..I just don't see him that nervous & hesitant giving up JB..It seems to me it fits more with Lee for the reasons I gave in my other post.

Jolynna

02-20-2009, 02:53 PM

I am also unclear as to who is working for whom. Both BC and JB seem to wander 'at will' back and forth. Maybe it is a joint effort?

LOL! I cannot respond to your last sentence or I will go poof. :chicken:

JB works for Casey. BC works for Cindy and George and DC. Luka works for Lee.

MADJGNLAW

02-20-2009, 02:53 PM

:waitasec:

Where are her phone records?? Why didn't NG follow up on that:confused:

These things need to be followed thru.

They might come out in the next batch of doc's. I found the article below to be very interesting. The way it was worded about who would be privileged and the fact that there is more than one interview with DC, we just happen to see one so far. Also, we have Hoover's to look forward to. I feel the phone records will set the record straight as to why DC was out there. We already know that Cindy said she sent her P.I. out there, but DC never mentioned Cindy and completely ducted the question as to why he was really out there and who told him not to call LE if he found a body. He was not sure if it was privi info and asked to stop the recording...

ANTHONY P.I. GAVE CONFLICTING STATEMENTS TO INVESTIGATORS

The Anthonys' private investigator revealed to detectives in January that he had three separate contracts for his work and one of them was with Casey herself, starting last September,:waitasec: but he said he did not come to the scene based on any information he got directly from Casey. If he had, that could have been privileged information for the defense only and not for detectives or the public.
The statement was the first Dominic Casey gave to investigators. There's a second one that the judge hasn't decided whether to release yet. http://www.wftv.com/news/18755972/detail.html

BuffaloPI

02-20-2009, 02:58 PM

Do you think he's being strait?

Is he hiding something?

Protecting someone? Protecting himself?

IMO, someone *knew* roughly where the remains were, and somehow he got wind of it... Just a gut feeling, I guess.

Jolynna

02-20-2009, 03:01 PM

Lee also fits (OJ charges?) but that doesn't exclude JB..He's the perfect fit!

If they both gave DC the same instructions (by chance) it doesn't = he gave both up..I see him protecting CA's son vs JB..DC has to know he's got a good gig (in with the A's) even tho he appeared to be a dimwit in this interview..He also showed time & again he had no fear of LYING so letting Lee off the hook wouldn't have been a big deal to him.

JB terminated DC in WRITING on October 1.

JB wouldn't have sent an EX-employee out on assignment.

JB also wouldn't care enough about Caylee to go look for her. It isn't his job. No money. No publicity.

Ethically, Baez's duty, should Casey confess the location, would be to encourage her to tell LE. Period.

JMO

Jolynna

02-20-2009, 03:05 PM

There's no privilege attached to DC's conversations with Lee Anthony.

Exactly. The contract between Baez and DC was officially terminated on October 1.

But, in an obscure way that had to originate from Casey the Anthony family got the information.

It isn't a conflict of interest for George, Cindy and DC to share the same lawyer. Ahem...that only leaves one other source.

Just saying...

IMO

amethyst221

02-20-2009, 03:06 PM

I think he is, but the problem at this point is pinpointing what he's lying about. He has no credibility. Something less than everything, unless his name isn't DC.

Kenziema

02-20-2009, 03:09 PM

IMO he's OBVIOUSLY lying and LE knows it. I think he knows way more but doesn't say because he knows that he should have reported it and will get in trouble for obstruction.

Elley Mae

02-20-2009, 03:13 PM

after part 1, yes he is lying and is being very cautious about how he answers the questions.Or he is just one ? not to bright individual. JMO

Pattymarie

02-20-2009, 03:15 PM

Of course he is lying, never thought anything else, but.

Shavaun

02-20-2009, 03:16 PM

i think he is, but the problem at this point is pinpointing what he's lying about. He has no credibility. Something less than everything, unless his name isn't dc.

ita.:)

MAMABEAR

02-20-2009, 03:16 PM

Listening to the transcript is very telling! LOL
Part One
http://www.wftv.com/video/18760256/index.html

OMG--------Thanks for link. If I hadn't read this first------I would have been so confused. I sat here and heard these dudes take DC's mind out of his body and threw it up against one wall and then the other. They took his mind in so many different directions and then came to a halt and you can feel what DC is feeling.

OK--OK--OK I'm addicted. Dam.

But these dudes are very good at their jobs. I love them.
I have never thought of DC as a really smart man. Well, maybe not even smart so somebody in higher places is using.

Wish I knew how to start a thread. Say like maybe:
1. connection of casey to JB to DC to JH to ? to ? KNF to T Black
2. DAISY CHAIN?

:banghead:

cajun

02-20-2009, 03:17 PM

He's a BIG FAT LIAR. :crazy:

diz39

02-20-2009, 03:19 PM

This whole interview has made me crazy!:furious:
I wanted to reach thru the pages and choke DC. What a liar!
I, too, think JB was the person who instructed him not to call 911 if he found Caylee.

O/T and maybe a little snarky: I had to chuckle when DC is telling about who was with who in the lobbby at the Ritz. He indicated that he was suspicious of Caitlyn and Michelle B, but Cindy assured him they were "ok, they are on the staff." I bet Princess Cindy has waited a lifetime to say those works to someone!
Unfortunately, DC ruins it by saying "who's staff" whereupon Princess says ABC. However, Michelle B is not on staff of ABC unless I am mistaken.

aqua_mom

02-20-2009, 03:23 PM

No I don't believe he is lying. He is obligated to be careful about what he says since he does have privileged information.

Jolynna

02-20-2009, 03:25 PM

IF the location had come from JB, DC would NOT have shared it with Cindy or George. JB cannot disclose ANYTHING Casey tells him even to her family (without Casey's permission).

DC readily revealed his conversations with Cindy and George.

BC couldn't work for Cindy, George AND DC if there was a conflict of interest and one of THEM could rat out another.

MAMABEAR

02-20-2009, 03:32 PM

BuffaloPI

02-20-2009, 03:34 PM

LancelotLink

02-20-2009, 03:45 PM

Of course he is lying, never thought anything else, but.

:floorlaugh:

LancelotLink

02-20-2009, 03:45 PM

He's a BIG FAT LIAR. :crazy:

Too funny!!!

amethyst221

02-20-2009, 03:51 PM

If the location came from JB and was shared with DC under circumstances that made it part of A/C communications with Casey A, then DC SHOULD NOT have shared the information with the A's or anyone without authorization to waive the privilege. I don't know what he actually would or wouldn't have done.

faefrost

02-20-2009, 04:00 PM

The Anthonys' private investigator revealed to detectives in January that he had three separate contracts for his work and one of them was with Casey herself, starting last September, but he said he did not come to the scene based on any information he got directly from Casey. If he had, that could have been privileged information for the defense only and not for detectives or the public.

A question for the lawyers around here. Is it not the case that if DC had a seperate employment contract with KC herself, above and beyond his contract with JB, that rather than extending privilege it would in fact eliminate it? By nature of that contrat he is no longer simply an extension of the lawyer, and is in fact a third party employee of the defedent? So there is no privilege on any client attorney conversations to which he was a party?

Am I interpreting that wrongly?

Paintr

02-20-2009, 04:00 PM

I think he is, but the problem at this point is pinpointing what he's lying about. He has no credibility. Something less than everything, unless his name isn't DC.

Great answer! :) Do you mind if I adopt it as my own? You said it better!

Melanie

02-20-2009, 04:01 PM

I think both are lying to some degree....they are cut from the same cloth.:twocents:

I agree - I'm listening to the tapes now. Dominic Casey went out to the dump site a 2nd time, then a 3rd time "for true comfort that Caylee wasn't there (tape 1)"? It's clear he gave conflicting statements?

- going to the crime scene a full month before LE did?
- to determine if it was KC's childhood hangout
- then he says he went based on a psychic tip
- waited 2 weeks before he told the A's
- searched 3 times
- Cindy said she said she sent "someone" to the scene, but didn't say who.

It's all so fishy -- someone isn't telling the truth! IMHO I think the PI knew Caylee was there, but just couldn't find her. He should have called LE and let them know how serious he felt about the location - he failed.

:(

Chilly Willy

02-20-2009, 04:04 PM

I agree - I'm listening to the tapes now. Dominic Casey went out to the dump site a 2nd time, then a 3rd time "for true comfort that Caylee wasn't there (tape 1)"? It's clear he gave conflicting statements?

- going to the crime scene a full month before LE did?
- to determine if it was KC's childhood hangout
- then he says he went based on a psychic tip
- waited 2 weeks before he told the A's
- searched 3 times
- Cindy said she said she sent "someone" to the scene, but didn't say who.

It's all so fishy -- someone isn't telling the truth! IMHO I think the PI knew Caylee was there, but just couldn't find her. He should have called LE and let them know how serious he felt about the location - he failed.

:(

The meter reader did exactly that, many times. LE wasn't interested.

Linda7NJ

02-20-2009, 04:06 PM

Absolutely lying!

FaerieB

02-20-2009, 04:12 PM

I believe he's lying. I wonder if LE ever got the cell phone records?

lin

02-20-2009, 04:15 PM

Haven't read the thread yet so apologize in advance if this has already been addressed.

Better question: Does anyone think DC told anything that was the whole truth? (Yes, including his name.) :)

webhound

02-20-2009, 04:16 PM

This is a great thread!!! (I still haven't read all of it, but WOW!)

amethyst221

02-20-2009, 04:16 PM

Great answer! :) Do you mind if I adopt it as my own? You said it better!

It's all yours!

Intermezzo

02-20-2009, 04:17 PM

No I don't believe he is lying. He is obligated to be careful about what he says since he does have privileged information.
To quote Cindy he is "telling mis-truths and half-truths".....
:waitasec: so sorry couldn't resist :)

webhound

02-20-2009, 04:20 PM

Oh, he is sooooo lying! Stumble, trip. Stumble, trip. Back up. Turn around. Stumble, trip. This guy can't keep his story on its feet!

amethyst221

02-20-2009, 04:21 PM

I also have to wonder how involved in this the Anthony's are. They seem to have done everything in their power to spoil whatever integrity they might have shown in the early days of the case. If they were involved, was Casey under orders to alter, move, cover up or dispose of the remains?

But its not outside the realm of possibility that they were ignorant of this.

It also seems possible to me that Casey got wind of the location somehow, and decided that if he was able to find the remains he could leverage it into a vehicle for fame and profit somehow.

So many possibilities...

To be perfectly fair, I have to give some credence to your last statement. This is one of those cases. You can never rule out that thing that seems to come over people who get involved, even at the periphery, and want their 15 minutes or $$$$ or just attachment. They should be doing one thing, but they could just be "going rogue" for their own reasons.

Paintr

02-20-2009, 04:26 PM

It's all yours!

Thank you kindly, amethyst. :)

amethyst221

02-20-2009, 04:30 PM

A question for the lawyers around here. Is it not the case that if DC had a seperate employment contract with KC herself, above and beyond his contract with JB, that rather than extending privilege it would in fact eliminate it? By nature of that contrat he is no longer simply an extension of the lawyer, and is in fact a third party employee of the defedent? So there is no privilege on any client attorney conversations to which he was a party?

Am I interpreting that wrongly?

I think you're correct. If DC was not under the auspices of an attorney, the only privilege he could have for communications with Casey A after that point would be any client/PI privilege Florida recognizes. That wouldn't hold up against the needs of a criminal investigation, IMO.

LCoastMom

02-20-2009, 04:30 PM

The way DC responded to most questions raised my hinky meter, he was very, very cautious of every word he said, which made him appear to be lying. If he was being honest he was very, very nervous of his words coming back to haunt him.

It was great when John Allen said; "we are asking you questions we have already have the answer to." I could almost see DC's blood pressure rising and the sweat pouring off his brow.

If DC was as nervous as his answers made him sound, my next question to him would be why? He was speaking with LE, not the mafia. I'm assuming he couldn't break privilege from the time he was employed by Jose, but Jose is not a scary guy to me. So if someone else has DC's panties in a wad, he would have been wise to take it to LE IMO.

TotallyObsessed

02-20-2009, 04:32 PM

Pink Panther

02-20-2009, 04:34 PM

Blah. Of course he's lying. Not so difficult to see.

MOO

justbeachy

02-20-2009, 04:34 PM

Are his lips moving?

Meagain

02-20-2009, 04:37 PM

OK.

1. Isn't the non-release at this point in time by Strickland very telling here?

2. If Jose or someone in that camp is going down, how does this effect Casey's trial?

Blackwatch

02-20-2009, 04:39 PM

Are his lips moving?

In my opinion, his nose has grown at least a foot and his pants have burned beyond the point of recognition, leaving his dupee hanging out.

RevCrim

02-20-2009, 04:40 PM

Why would one think DC is lying?

Just because- he had a letter of engagement with JB ?
What the heck is a letter of engagement? I would say I was under contract.

Just because - he had a letter of engagement with KC ?
Now he's engaged twice- two timer- lol But, how did he think KC was going to pay him? PI's don't work for free-

Just because he had a letter of engagement with CA ?
How did they pay him and his expenses?

Just because he has the same attorney as the A's ?
Who's paying for that?

Sounds like they're all bed partners- so to speak- (not literally)

So who's confidence does he protect?

Just because- he claims he out looking on his own-

Just because he couldn't wait to throw JH under the bus-

Sweetheart of a pal-

I wouldn't trust him with the truth about Santa Claus- he would be just the type to run right to the elves and spill the beans and screw things up for everyone.

Velouria

02-20-2009, 04:41 PM

Yes, he's lying. But that's pretty much a job requirement when you're associated with Team Anthony.

Feistyoldbroad

02-20-2009, 04:41 PM

Liar Liar Pants on fire!:twocents:

TotallyObsessed

02-20-2009, 04:49 PM

Like a rug!

I posted this on another thread, but I am listening to the tapes now and talk about a load of crap....this information did not come from a psychic. Not that detailed information of "follow the fence line and you will see 3 concrete pavers....etc." I wholeheartedly believe that KC herself provided this information. Either directly to DC or through her family, or through JB.

2goldfish

02-20-2009, 04:49 PM

total liar.

ETA: make a poll, the first ever on WS to have a 100% YES! :biglaugh:

Paintr

02-20-2009, 04:50 PM

QUOTE=RevCrim;3345519]Why would one think DC is lying?

Just because- he had a letter of engagement with JB ?
What the heck is a letter of engagement? I would say I was under contract.

Just because - he had a letter of engagement with KC ?
Now he's engaged twice- two timer- lol But, how did he think KC was going to pay him? PI's don't work for free-

Just because he had a letter of engagement with CA ?
How did they pay him and his expenses?

Just because he has the same attorney as the A's ?
Who's paying for that?

Sounds like they're all bed partners- so to speak- (not literally)

So who's confidence does he protect?

Just because- he claims he out looking on his own-

Just because he couldn't wait to throw JH under the bus-

Sweetheart of a pal-

I wouldn't trust him with the truth about Santa Claus- he would be just the type to run right to the elves and spill the beans and screw things up for everyone.[/QUOTE]

:toastred:[ My vote for post of the day! LMAO!

MAMABEAR

02-20-2009, 04:50 PM

OK.

1. Isn't the non-release at this point in time by Strickland very telling here?

2. If Jose or someone in that camp is going down, how does this effect Casey's trial?

Do you think it would effect the KC case. HMMMM JB would just be taken off the case and a new lawyer would take over? Well, on the other hand how deep is she herself involved in all this other stuff going on.

Poot---I don't know. You sparked a flame in my mind here.

Paintr

02-20-2009, 04:56 PM

total liar.

ETA: make a poll, the first ever on WS to have a 100% YES! :biglaugh:

Nah! Never happen. Somebody would defend his honesty. LOL! WS is about debate. Nothing to debate if everone agrees. But, having said that, I am not going to be the one to take on that job!:chicken:

debirlfan

02-20-2009, 04:56 PM

Well... it wouldn't surprise me if he was told where the body was. However, I see no reason why the A's would want the body found. So - who could have told the PI? What if it was the meter reader - either himself, or through an intermediary (the psychic)? If the meter reader did actually find the body (or was fairly certain of what he saw) and the police blew him off - if he really didn't want to get involved, telling the PI where to look would have seemed a viable option.

3doglady

02-20-2009, 05:22 PM

The meter reader did exactly that, many times. LE wasn't interested.

The MR reported it to LE each time, in fact LE was meeting him there on at least one trip. DC did not report it to LE, that is the difference. IMO

Jolynna

02-20-2009, 05:45 PM

The meter reader did exactly that, many times. LE wasn't interested.

It would have looked better if he had tried.

ThoughtElf

02-20-2009, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Micheline http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3340828#post3340828)
Interview with Ginette: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khj6bW3ivCc

Here is another interview with her by FOX 35:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJPPUJ5-BIs&NR=1
Does she say she received a teddy bear of caylee's from a middle man?

BUMP!

Interesting to listen to this woman. "Intermediary" over and over.

Jolynna

02-20-2009, 05:53 PM

I am listening to the tapes now and talk about a load of crap....this information did not come from a psychic. Not that detailed information of "follow the fence line and you will see 3 concrete pavers....etc." I wholeheartedly believe that KC herself proviced this information. Either directly to DC or through her family, or through JB.

That the P.I. ONLY investigated in almost exactly where Caylee was found is telling.

It also says a lot that Cindy and George and the P.I. and "somebody else" discussed in advance what they would do IF Caylee was found.

You don't discuss those kind of "ifs" in advance of going to see a "teenage hangout".

Jolynna

02-20-2009, 05:59 PM

Also, IF DC was ONLY following up on a tip about where Casey "used to hangout" and a phone call from a psychic, there wouldn't be ANY question about "privilege".

There is.

Baez filed motions saying so. And Lee, Cindy and George want immunity.

IMO

Melly53

02-20-2009, 05:59 PM

No doubt in my mind that he was lying and LE knew it. He obviously did not know that LE had seen surveilance video from the hotel and tripped himself up numerous times on that subject. LE already had answers to many of the questions they were asking and his answers did not always agree with what they knew to be fact IMO.

kathyn2

02-20-2009, 06:24 PM

There is no doubt in my mind that CA, GA and most likely LA all knew where the body was suppose to be and one of them told DC who was told to look for the body. Somehow this info came via KC to one of them at some point in time. Either thru JB or KC herself. Whats odd is that no one went looking until well after KC was back in jail which leads me to believe they found out somehow thru JB or the notes he was passing back and forth. It was definitely no accident or psychic that sent DC to that spot. I hope at some point that LE got to the bottom of it but you just have to believe this is why all the Anthony's lawyered up and are afraid of charges coming against them. It must all stem from this incident.

justbetweenus

02-20-2009, 06:27 PM

Yes I believe he is lying big time. I also believe this termination agreement between DC and JB, while still having an agreement with Casey was done to protect JB legally from some shady dealings he is doing, and it involves ABC.

newuser

02-20-2009, 06:28 PM

Lie? He couldn't even ANSWER a question. He'd repeat questions, and then say they were confusing him.

justbetweenus

02-20-2009, 06:37 PM

Lie? He couldn't even ANSWER a question. He'd repeat questions, and then say they were confusing him.

I agree...it was like he was doing this so he could try and think of a good answer.

JSR

02-20-2009, 07:22 PM

In a word, YES!

I don't think a word of what he said was truthful. I've said this many times to myself. I have NEVER EVER seen a more messed up case than this one. You couldn't MAKE UP this cast of characters.

Jay D

02-20-2009, 08:47 PM

There has been much discussion in this thread and other related threads about DC claims to having dissolved his relationship with Baez on Oct. 1. I don't think that testimony can be trusted. I can't help but be reminded of Baez' claims concerning his relationship with Todd Black. When it suited Baez' needs, Todd was an employee or under contract. When Baez didn't want that relationship to be used, he denied it.
I think DC and Baez are playing the same game here. :mad:

okiedokietoo

02-20-2009, 09:25 PM

He was working for the A's and KC when he was roaming around those three days at the crime scene and CA has said she sent someone out there to search in November so if CA sent him out there he lied in the interview but if KC sent him out there to search he and CA lied -

LCoastMom

02-21-2009, 12:26 AM

Amil

02-21-2009, 12:43 AM

I am listening to the tapes now and talk about a load of crap....this information did not come from a psychic. Not that detailed information of "follow the fence line and you will see 3 concrete pavers....etc." I wholeheartedly believe that KC herself proviced this information. Either directly to DC or through her family, or through JB.

Yes! I agree KC wanted the body found and removed. Having no body would keep doubt out there, donations coming in, and those out of state sitings would continue.

LancelotLink

02-21-2009, 01:40 AM

Yes! I agree KC wanted the body found and removed. Having no body would keep doubt out there, donations coming in, and those out of state sitings would continue.
I kept wondering why they would want to move the body if all believed TES had searched and came up empty. I know that was not the case, but seemed to have been the popular theory. It just dawned on me! Kiomarie's interview pointed to that area and Kc's video's from jail saying she's close, think about things familiar to our family...Casey must have realized after those videos of her in jail were released, OMG! They are going to find Caylee.