Wendy Camp, Cynthia Britto and Lisa Renee Kregear

[smile22]

i was watching and older unsloved mysteries today at my grandmas and they had this story on this women her sister in law and step doughter, she had ms and was from oklahoma she had a son from a previus marrige that didnt last long she got pregnant from a co worker had the babyt then developed a bad case of ms her husband left her got custdey of the child, she got better remairried, anyways she was on a visit to see him she couldnt drive and her husband was like call me when u get there or it might have been on the way and when u get their, her sons fathers mother and his sister were picking them up the ex wife, her sister in law and the neice i think it was or her step doughter to visit the son they got their visited then on the way home back to ok city, the ex wife was fighting with her ex sister in law about geting her son back and ex sister was like hes better off with me and his father more stablity anyways the fight got so bad the mother asked to be droped off home then it was just the ex sister in law ex wife her sister in law and the neice or doughter still fighitng so then she drops them off at a shoping center becuse shes had enugh of the bikering they never came home she claims she droped them off but she was suposed to meet her brother and her niefew at some dinner or something at like 7 it was 3 hrs to ok city from where she was to and back becuse she took the long way, does anyone remeber that and if they were found?

[smile22]

found something on them from the doenetwork was in the yahoo chat for doenetwork and the owner of doenetwork,org found the case for me they dont have pictures of the other 2 women so their cases are not listed but they have one for the step doughter so sad i did a search on google and found nothing else on them foul play is suspected


Cynthia M. Britto
Case File 623DFOK
Missing since May 29, 1992 from Chandler, Lincoln County, Oklahoma.
Classification: Non-Family Abduction



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Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: January 17, 1986
Age at Time of Disappearance: 6 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 3'0" - 91 cm, 60 lbs - 27 kg
Distinguishing Characteristics: Caucasian. Brown eyes; brown hair.
Clothing: Britto was last seen wearing a pink sweater, a blue and black striped shirt and tennis shoes.


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Circumstances of Disappearance
Britto was last seen being dropped off at Walmart in Chandler with her mother; Wendy Camp and her aunt; Lisa Kregear who are also missing. They were dropped off by Wendy's former mother-in- law. They disappeared after visiting Wendy's son, with whom she had just received visitation rights, in Shamrock, Oklahoma. Camp’s husband said Wendy called him during the afternoon of May 29, 1992. Camp said she was calling from a pay phone in Shamrock, and was on her way home. None of the three has been seen or heard from since. Foul play is suspected.
Wendy has Multiple Sclerosis it is necessary for her to take medication daily and she did not have her medication with her. She was wearing a bright red jogging suit. Foul play is suspected.



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[blueclouds]

I remember that story too. I saw it on Unsolved Mysteries recently too. Curious Smile22, can you PM me your name on doenetwork? I'm a member too. :) (Carey)

[smile22]

lately ive been really intrested in this case and there is virtualy nothing on the web about it does anyone know on how i can get some more info id like to put up a webpage with info pertaning to these women and maybe someone somewhere will know the answers

[frogpjs]

On Friday, May 29, 1992, 22-year-old Wendy Camp, her daughter 6-year-old Cynthia Britto, and Camp’s sister-in-law, 23-year-old Lisa Kregear disappeared after visiting Camp’s son in Shamrock, Oklahoma. Camp’s husband said Wendy called him during the afternoon of May 29, 1992. Camp said she was calling from a pay phone in Shamrock, and was on her way home. None of the three has been seen or heard from since. The Oklahoma City Police Department requested OSBI assistance.

I was involved in a professional capacity with Wendy and her daughter Cynthia prior to their disappearance. Wendy had been in a custody battle with her ex-husband who had basically taken and not returned their child at birth claiming that her MS made her incapable of giving good care to him. He (the ex)and his mother had gone to great lengths to block visitation and access to the child.

Through the courts, after a protracted struggle, she was finally awarded visitation and went to see her son and took her sister -in-law with her(for protection) and her daugher Cynthia. Prior to going, she expressed concerns for her safety and was warned to be very careful as these people had a history of violent acting out.

When she did not return, I was contacted by her husband. Given what I knew about Wendy's concerns and her ex's threats, I contacted law enforcement officials and during a very long weekend they ignored Wendy's family and my plea to look into the situation closely. I felt that we were basically stone walled. They insisted that she probably just wandered off and no one would follow up. Atr the time I thought that if these people were the relatives of the Gaylords (big newpaper family) or anyone with power and name recognition,,,,that the officers would be out looking for them and spraying Luminal all over the cars and homes of the ex mother in law and ex husband.

After some time, I was contacted by the OSBI. Their supposition, and what I know in my heart to be true, is that the ex-husband was involved in their disappearance and that the bodies were buried somewhere south of Tulsa never to be found. Without bodies, they could not assume murder. The OSBI was unable to receive any cooperation from local law enforcement it seems because the ex's mother-in-law had embarassing information on local officials that precluded their cooperation with OSBI. If you remember, the mother-in-law is the one who claims to have dropped the three off at their parked car and therefore was the last person to see them. The car was found in that parking lot and the story spread that she had hooked up with some truck driver. This is not true at all . This was just not something Wendy would do.

Wendy's parents continued her fight and eventually were awarded custody of her son. He must be in his early 20's by now.

I keep a photo of Cynthia to this day. It sits in my desk and I think of what a sweet child she was and about how easy it is to just disappear of the face of the earth. This case left two other small children mother less as well. I know Wendy's parents must continue to miss her terribly.

[Juliana]

Frogpjs,
Thank you so much for sharing your story! It is so nice to have the insights of someone closer to the situation. What a waste of a beautiful little family. You are probably right, if they had been famous or prominent or even just wealthy, they would have probably gotten better attention.

Thanks again.

[smile22]

its just one of the few cases that haunt me i remeber watching on tv the story on unsolved and the ex i think grandma of her son the fathers mother deying the whole thing saying they wouldnt lie and such. well she really didnt know her own family i just hope they find the bodys so the famlys can be at some peace

[Richard]

A new member has asked that we look into this case. I will post an entry for each of the three missing persons involved. Please pardon any duplications.

[Richard]

Wendy L Camp
Missing since May 29, 1992 from Chandler, Lincoln County, Oklahoma
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics
Date Of Birth: March 1, 1969
Age at Time of Disappearance: 23 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3"; 200 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; blue eyes.
Medical Conditions: Wendy has Multiple Sclerosis. It is necessary for her to take medication daily and she did not have her medication with her.
Clothing: She was wearing a bright red jogging suit.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Camp was last seen being dropped off at Walmart in Chandler with her with her daughter, Cynthia Britto, and Lisa Kregear, who are also missing. They were dropped off by Wendy's former mother-in- law. They disappeared after visiting Wendy's son, with whom she had just received visitation rights, in Shamrock, Oklahoma. Camp’s husband said Wendy called him during the afternoon of May 29, 1992. Camp said she was calling from a pay phone in Shamrock, and was on her way home. None of the three has been seen or heard from since. Foul play is suspected.

Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact: Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigations 405-848-6724

NCIC Number: M-592484086
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

Source Information:
Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigations
The Doe Network: Case File 1745DFOK

Link:
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1745dfok.html

[Richard]

Cynthia M. Britto
Missing since May 29, 1992 from Chandler, Lincoln County, Oklahoma.
Classification: Non-Family Abduction

Vital Statistics
Date Of Birth: January 17, 1986
Age at Time of Disappearance: 6 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 3'0" - 91 cm; 60 lbs - 27 kg
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown eyes; brown hair.
Clothing: Britto was last seen wearing a pink sweater, a blue and black striped shirt and tennis shoes.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Britto was last seen being dropped off at Walmart in Chandler with her mother; Wendy Camp and her aunt; Lisa Kregear who are also missing. They were dropped off by Wendy's former mother-in- law. They disappeared after visiting Wendy's son, with whom she had just received visitation rights, in Shamrock, Oklahoma. Camp’s husband said Wendy called him during the afternoon of May 29, 1992. Camp said she was calling from a pay phone in Shamrock, and was on her way home. None of the three has been seen or heard from since. Foul play is suspected.
Wendy has Multiple Sclerosis. It is necessary for her to take medication daily and she did not have her medication with her. She was wearing a bright red jogging suit. Foul play is suspected.

Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact: Oklahoma Bureau of Investigation
405-848-6724

NCIC Number: M-592484494
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

Source Information:
National Center for Missing and Exploited Children
The Doe Network: Case File 623DFOK

Link:
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/623dfok.html

[Richard]

Lisa R. Kregear
Missing since May 29, 1992 from Chandler, Lincoln County, Oklahoma
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics
Date Of Birth: October 18, 1968
Age at Time of Disappearance: 24 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 130 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Lisa Kregear was las seen with Wendy Camp, who is also missing, and Camp's daughter, Cynthia Britto, being dropped off at Walmart in Chandler. They were dropped off by Wendy's former mother-in- law.
They disappeared after visiting Wendy's son, with whom she had just received visitation rights, in Shamrock, Oklahoma. Camp's husband said Wendy called him during the afternoon of May 29, 1992. Camp said she was calling from a pay phone in Shamrock, and was on her way home. None of the three has been seen or heard from since. Foul play is suspected.

Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact: Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigations 405-848-6724
NCIC Number: M-592483899
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

Source Information:
The Doe Network: Case File 1741DFOK

Link:
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1741dfok.html

[Susan Shock]

Can it be verified that these three were even seen at this Walmart? Or do we only have the ex mother in law's claim that she dropped them off there? I remember now seeing this case on Unsolved Mysteries.

[Richard]

Can it be verified that these three were even seen at this Walmart? Or do we only have the ex mother in law's claim that she dropped them off there? I remember now seeing this case on Unsolved Mysteries.
It would seem from all posts and available information, that it is simply the Mother-In-Law's word which places the three at the parked car.

[Susan Shock]

My personal opinion is that they never left Shamrock. A family that will go to such lengths to block visitation and that has a history of violence will probably not stop at a court order. But that's just my opinion.

[Hollow]

The Oklahoman
May 31, 1993

........Saturday marked the one year anniversary of the mysterious disappearance of Britto, Camp, and Camp's sister-in-law, Lisa Renee Kregear,23, all of Northwest Oklahoma City.
The three traveled to Shamrock on May 29, 1992, to visit Camp's son Jonathon Noe, now 5, at his fathers home. They never returned.Family members last heard from them about 5 p.m. that Friday before Memorial Day when they called to tell Camp's husband, Leon, that they were headed home.
Beverly Noe, the boy's grandmother, picked the trio up in Oklahoma City that morning and drove them to Shamrock, said Kim Koch, spokeswoman for the Oklahoma Bureau of Investigation.
On the return trip, Beverly Noe has told investigators, an argument ensued between her and Camp, her ex-daughter-in-law, Koch said. Noe has said she stopped at a Wal-Mart in Chandler and told the three to get out sometime between 5:30 and 6 p.m that day.
Two possible sightings of the two women and child at the Wal-Mart have been reported to OSBI, but Koch said investigators have questions about the validity of the witness' statements.
" We haven't been able to get good enough descriptions to determine if the witnesses actually saw them there, " Koch said.
Camp and ex-husband Noe were embroiled in a custody dispute over the then 4-year-old at the time of the disappearance. Camp's mother and step-father, Ed Taylor said they have continued the court battle, seeking granparent visitation rights............

[smile22]

if they were droped off at the local walmart wouldnt they have had the brains to get to a phone and call home and tell the husband where you are. i know they would anyone would in that situation, so i belive that they were droped off and somenone else came and killed them per her ex husbands family or they were never droped off at walmart and that is the story that the family has mantained to this day. i think the ex husbands family had something to do with it. im very very intrested in this case

[smile22]

cas has been on my mind for a while and would like anyone intrested who wants to help solve it. any new info on this case?

[aisha hashmi]

Hello to all. My name is Kimberly Hashmi, maiden name of course, is Taylor, and I am Wendy's sister. I am sad to say that my Father, Ed Taylor, of Guthrie, Oklahoma, passed away June 29th, 2006, just two months ago, and he never got to see this case settled. I did tell my mother of this site this morning and I could not believe my eyes when I saw this! Actually, I was making a yahoo 360 page, and decided once and for all I am going to do something to help find my sister, because in the OFBI, once Jackie Johnson retired, whoever took her place, is not even PRETENDING to work on my sister and neice and sister-in-laws case! So, when I forgot the exact address for the doe network site that has the age-progession pictures of Cynthia, my nieice, I went to search again for it and by chance, saw that there was a "Do you remember" title and then my sister and neice's name! I started crying when I saw there was a whole STRING of messages, and all about them, and such heartfelt sweet words about them and feelings for my family to put our family at peace. You just dont know how that made me feel! I am sad to say that my nephew has decided to return to living with Beverly, his OTHER grandmother. Chad, his Father, the one who is suspected of causing all of this, is not even in the picture, and is no where to be found, I am sad to say... I am so thankful, from the bottom of my heart, as is my Mother, that there are so many who put others before themselves, as I would in a heartbeat as well, and that think of others so selflessly, even if they can do nothing but offer words of comfort. It has renewed my spirit to know I my Mother and I do not walk alone, and I would live to update ANYONE and I do mean ANYONE with questions about this case. I will give out my phone number to Smiles22 since it seems she is the one who keeps bring this up, :))))))) and I will hope that anyone else she trusts on here will be given the phone number, as she will know who to give it to, and you can call me anytime. I hope and pray for all the others on here that are in pain and suffering as I am to remember, it takes on second to find someone like this so many years later and thinking your all alone, and then to find this is like getting the biggest hug in the world. I am crying so i cant see nows. sincelrely,
proud little sister of Wendy, loving proud aunt of Cynthia, and sister in law of lisa kregear here is my personl email for whoever would like it, cricketwinner@sbcglobal.net, and my Mothers email can be given on request, and my yahoo page is: http://360.yahoo.com/profile-G3nEqFsyaa.UIh8C3ESKIMffAYqloqWqB2aTokwqMyLrsj8-?cq=1 I have never had a webpage before so I hope I put that in there right, lol. If not let me know if you cold not go to my site...
Thakn you for taking the time to read this soppy mess but it was from my heart and I meant every word. you guys deserve more than I can say
Mrs. Kimberly Hashmi

[EdinburghLass]

Welcome to WS Kimberly.


I hope we can help you to find your family. I found on another website this 'update'. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=154119&highlight=wendy+camp

'I have friend that lives in the Shamrock, OK area where Wendy Camp, her daughter and Lisa Kriegar went missing after making a trip to Shamrock from OKC to visit Wendy's son. Bones were found in a pond located on private property in the Drumright/Shamrock area. Bones are those thought to be Wendy Camp, her daughter and Lisa Kriegar. An investigation is under way to determine more information as to what happened. It has been rumored that Chad Noe killed them and placed them in pond and had help. '

Have you heard anything about this? I am so sorry for your losses.

[laini]

Welcome Kimberly! I hope you have answers soon. You definately came to the right place to start. :)

[coco]

Yes welcome Kimberly! I am very sorry for your recent loss of your father also, my deepest condolences. Well guys, have I got this story straight, did Wendy call her husband from a payphone after she had had the visit with her son? Did she happen to mention how she was getting home, whether the dear ex mother in law was giving them a lift? And were they able to find out what payphone she was calling from? thanks...

[coco]

if they were droped off at the local walmart wouldnt they have had the brains to get to a phone and call home and tell the husband where you are. i know they would anyone would in that situation, so i belive that they were droped off and somenone else came and killed them per her ex husbands family or they were never droped off at walmart and that is the story that the family has mantained to this day. i think the ex husbands family had something to do with it. im very very intrested in this case
Also, thanks for bringing this case to our attention, I am v interested in it also. The thing is, if I am reading this right, didn't Wendy call her husband after she had seen her son? Now where does that fit in , in regard to being abducted, before or after, what do you think? Could it have been a forced call i am thinking...

[docwho3]

Walmarts usually have security cameras both in the store and outside pointed at the parking lot so if they were really ever there you would think there would be evidence of it. Even a view of the vehicle they were allegedly dropped off from with them shown exiting might be possible if the story about dropping them off there had been true. I suspect the lack of such evidence is as telling, in its own way, as it would have been if the tapes had shown proof of the story.

[aisha hashmi]

Hope you do not mind if combine all answers into one, :)
Okay, Wendy was at home alone, with Cynthia, when she got a call out of the blue from chad, asking her if she wanted visit Johnathan, my nephew. Wendy was hesitant but said to call back in a few minutes and she would let him know, so she called leon, her husband at work and asked him and he said that it would be ookay, but to take his siter with her. Of course, cynthis would be there as well, so it seems 3-1 would be great. Well, chad shows up with beverly, his mother, and ida, his grandmother. When wendy got to the house she called not only leon and told him they were there but she also called my parents, so they could talk to johnathon. remember, this is after refusing to let my family see him for over three yrs, even when the court gave her rights, cause when it was her turn to see him , they would "accidently" forget it wendy's turn to vist and be out of okla and in texas at six flags! So, my mom and dad spoke to wendy and johnathan and cynthia I believe, then after a few hours, wendy called again and said that they would be leaving shortly. That was NOT the only call she made, though. I am not sure of the time line but I think about an hour or two later my sister called my mom and leon again and said cyntiha had wanted some soda to drink so they had stopped a convience store to get the drink, and my sister then told my mom as well as leon that they would be home soon. THe OFBI *HAVE* gotten the phone records of that call, and it is proven the calls were made form THAT side of the super highway, on the OTHER side of where beverly claims to have dropped wendy off, but I digress... anyway, to answer the question she called during AND after the visit. next question was, she called leon right after calling my mom from the store while getting cynthia the drink so since my mom as well as leon both talked to her and said that wendy was even scolding cynthia for dropping some soda on her dress that it seemed very normal-toned conversation and very loving solding I need to add, :), and that when asked about that my mom says she felt nothing bad in wendys voice at all, and neither did leon. They felt she was tired, and wendy even mentioned that she felt stupid because she had left her next doesage of medicine at home and that beverly was pissed off about having to take her home so quickly, as they had planned to stay longer and not drive back to OKC till later or somethng. Beverly and Ida were in my life for a few years, and "bitchin and a moanin" excuse my french was a very common term for ida to use about anyone who even said the day was nice outside. she was a bitter mean old woman. The mother beverly was KNOWN in Bristow Oklahoma to have been having an affair with a deputy or sherif and then he was found, in his patrol car, with the gun of the one or the other in his mouth. In other words if it was the deputy she was with it was the sherif found dead, or vice versa, I would have to ask my mom, but becasue of this she, beverly is blackmailing those in power in some way. Also she has been known to be involved in prostitution rings, bringing underaged girls over the border into texas, and known to be a witch, meaning black magic type, not personality, :) (She qualifies for both)

Walmarts usually have security cameras both in the store and outside pointed at the parking lot so if they were really ever there you would think there would be evidence of it. Even a view of the vehicle they were allegedly dropped off from with them shown exiting might be possible if the story about dropping them off there had been true. I suspect the lack of such evidence is as telling, in its own way, as it would have been if the tapes had shown proof of the story.
I have NO CLUE ON EARTH about this, and if they ever were looked at I am sure the OFBI has, but no one has ever told me about it. I will ask my Mother. oh, by the way, her email address is jataylor@ucok.edu. She is STILL at the library at the college of university of central oklahoma, where she has worked for 25 years now. Feel free to email her as well, she would be tickled pink to feel the "virtual" hugs and all this love from all of you, as I do. We are so please d to tell our story to anyone who will listen, and I was living in new york with my husband when this happened so I have never been able to get truly involed, but I have been in Texas now with my Husband and three boys, who I NEVER let out of my site, and I have been trying to tell the OFBI to go out and look out at our old house in wellston, as Chad ASKED me if it was isolated and it IS, 40 miles out of town, and the ofbi KINDA took me seriously, but I have had dreams about them all being found out there. I am just too damn scared to go by myself..... Maybe I will get a bunch of people and just go out htere one day, huh..
Anyway, all good questions, and if you have anymore PLEASE ASK!!!!! I will give my number to whover asks for it, as my hands get tired, lol I will attach some pics of me side by side with my sister and cynthia. Everyone tells me that cynthia looked just like me except i have blue eys, but face wise we were the same, and that had she been given the chance to grow up she would have looked just like me. My sister was so beautiful, and after taking the steroids and other meds to control her MS, she would not let us even take her photo as it made her gain so much weight, but MS couldnt steal her inner beauty. Once again, thans so much for all that you all are doing on here. I really love each and every one of you so much, and if anything happens to me, you know who to go after, !!!!

[KT Can]

Kimberly, welcome to websleuths! You'll will find the best people here that will go to the ends of the earth to help other people. I've witnessed it on many, many a thread. And it's threads such as this one that make me mad at myself for not posting more! I've been here at WS forever but I'm really more of a lurker than a poster, and your sister's case is one that I always get excited about when I see that there is a new post. I'm always hoping that this case is finally getting the attention it has deserved for so long. I first learned about it on Unsolved Mysteries what seems like forever ago and I have never forgotten it. Cases like this tick me off more than I can express. I mean three people go missing, one of them a little girl, and there's a history of bad blood with the family that they were last seen with and NO ONE does anything??? Come on, it's obvious to even the lay person what has happened so why hasn't anything been done?!! Who the heck are Beverly and Ida and Chad anyway? So what if they have information on some crooked cops, all of the cops can't be bad. We must start a squeaky wheel campaign with law enforcement and get something going on this. I have always felt that this case is completely solvable and that certain people need to be made to pay for their crimes. Please let me know if there is anything that I, or anyone of us can do to help you out. Feel free to PM me anytime! :)

[aisha hashmi]

Well I cant say you should be mad at yourself for not posting more, but you should wonder why I havent done more web searches. It think we had all given up hope, you know? I know it sounds so horrible to hear that, it sounds horrible to say, but I have had to give birth to all three of my children without my big sister there, you know, and that took the winds out my sails. Our dreams of when we got married what it would be like at our weddings, and she wasnt at mine. etc etc. I didnt even have a sister to call to tell hey, my boy just took his first steps, said his first word, or hey, he wont stop doing so and so. I had to get on with my life, for my sanity. My mother had a nervous break down, and was in a hospital for a year and a half because of all the stress and anguish and just plain emotional toll this took on her, and I could not bear to watch that. It had to be keep wallowing in this pain or get up and get on with your life. Yeah it was hard but we made it, and I think I am just now, so many years later, able to face this. I am so thankful and grateful that while we had to let others take the wheel that you kept driving for us, and we are so grateful, really we are. I cant say that enough. It is just so hard, even now, to talk about this, and I hope you dont mind. I will go for now and get some air, okay.
kimberly aisha taylor-hashmi

[KT Can]

Well I cant say you should be mad at yourself for not posting more, but you should wonder why I havent done more web searches. It think we had all given up hope, you know? I know it sounds so horrible to hear that, it sounds horrible to say, but I have had to give birth to all three of my children without my big sister there, you know, and that took the winds out my sails. Our dreams of when we got married what it would be like at our weddings, and she wasnt at mine. etc etc. I didnt even have a sister to call to tell hey, my boy just took his first steps, said his first word, or hey, he wont stop doing so and so. I had to get on with my life, for my sanity. My mother had a nervous break down, and was in a hospital for a year and a half because of all the stress and anguish and just plain emotional toll this took on her, and I could not bear to watch that. It had to be keep wallowing in this pain or get up and get on with your life. Yeah it was hard but we made it, and I think I am just now, so many years later, able to face this. I am so thankful and grateful that while we had to let others take the wheel that you kept driving for us, and we are so grateful, really we are. I cant say that enough. It is just so hard, even now, to talk about this, and I hope you dont mind. I will go for now and get some air, okay.
kimberly aisha taylor-hashmi
Kimberly, I so hope you didn't think I meant that the family hasn't done anything because that's not it at all!!! I was talking about law enforcement not doing anything, the people that took an oath to protect and serve citizens like your sister, neice and sister-n-law. My goodness, you guys, the family, were thrown into something that no one should ever have to experience. Just trying to put one foot in front of the other after something like this is hard, let alone having to deal with your own life on top of it. Combine that with all the frustrations and let downs brought about by the fact that law enforcement doesn't seem to care and I'd say your doing good just to be posting here with us today. Stay strong and know that people are thinking about your family and praying for you! Today is a new day and it's is never too late to find justice for the wrong that has been done to your family.

[smile22]

aisha hashmi welcome to ws we are a really great group of people. feel free to pm me anytime about the case i saw it on unsolved and was moved by the case and the lack of evidence on the other familys part i knew something was up with chad and the grandma and everyone else they must have had it planed out or something. id love for this case to be solved sometime soon let me know what avenues have already been used has le been contacted and pressured into looking back into the case has chad and his family been pressured to talk. the part that struck me odd was that they used the old two lane highway or something to get to the diner to meet chad? or was that to bring them home? and then how it would have taken them 3 hrs to get to where they were comming from and it was like next to impossible?

[aisha hashmi]

[QUOTE=KT Can]Kimberly, I so hope you didn't think I meant that the family hasn't done anything because that's not it at all!!!

Oh, no, I did not mean that I was saying that after all this time has passed I am JUST NOW finding this site, and it was quite by accident! Did you read my other post? I was starting a yahoo 360 page, and I had been told about three or four years ago by my mom about a site that had an age-progressed photo of cynthia, and when I went to make my page, I wanted to put her picture on it, and when I did the web search, could not believe my eyes whe nI found this site!!! Thats why I said, you should not be mad ot YOURSELF for not posting more often, but should wonder why I had not at least done a web search before now... It is true, I guess I wasnt ready too, though, and now I am and I am ready to give this mother f-in family the fight of their life. I dont know HOW to take on a police department, how hard do you think it is? :furious: They dont know about us little red heads if they think they will get away from me..... ha ha ha they will be running away like this::eek: :eek: :eek: I am positive not all police are corrupt, but bristow back then when this occured was small, small, and shamrock when this occured, was, nd still is, small small. Your talking your old back woods boys that got elected in to office or grew up and took their daddies places on the force, if you know what I mean. The old secrets stay right where they are: long forgotten and covered up, till someone big and bad enough scares it out of them. It just wont be, as I have no power over them. I am going to talk to my mother tonight about the little details as she has told me once before, and I will let the group know tommorow. But something came to mind earlier. I remember reading that Chad left wendy cause of the MS. That is not true. My sister got hooked on drugs because of him, he fed them to her while she was pregnant with Johnathan, and got her smoking something, and two or three weeks after Johnathan was born, she went into a coma, and two days, read that, TWO DAYS after we took my sister to the hospital, chad was cought, in the hall, with a perfect STRANGER, a TEENAGER no less, having sex. We found out a few months later she was pregnant. My sister was in the coma for almost a year and a half, and he NEVER came to see her or visit her, not even ONCE. My Mother and Father got the divorce through power of attorney, and thats how they got divorced. During the two or three years of rehab, my sister met Leon, at the rehab center, and after two years of close careful observation, my parents saw he was a caring loving guy and allowed him to marry my sister. Yes, allowed is the word I used because at that point my sister felt that they knew decision wise they could see if he was the right choice or not. Anyway, just thought I would set the record straight that this sorry sack of crap :loser: did NOT leave my sister, she left HIM.

[aisha hashmi]

I just spoke to my mom. Here is what she said about the walmart cameras. She doesnt remember if they told her or not, she will sit and try to remember anything mentioned about it, and said to email her at her home hotmail address at ja_t_1@hotmail.com because unless she is at work she cant access the other email as it is on the college server, and ANY one with questions is asked to ask her and keep em coming to us all day long.... I told her that the update about the bones in shamrock and she was in shock I guess, she did not really say anything, and when i told her about FROGPJ3, she asked if it was JIM c, the private eye her and daddy hired. I let her know I emailed him off the list, but if he reads this here, please, check your email! She would love to talk to you! Anyone with any questions, feel free to hit us up, we cant wait as we feel so giddy and like this is it, this is finally it. I thank you for all your help.
Kimberly Aisha taylor hashmi

[aisha hashmi]

Thank you and I sure feel lucky to be here, quite an honor.

[aisha hashmi]

Thank you for your condolences. It has been a hard week, as we lost my Uncle Thomas C. Battey, of Lewisville, Texas, 80 yrs old, last Sunday. Tommorow is a get together dinner for all of us here in Texas, for just a small dinner, but my Uncle was found in his armchair, having peacfully passed in his sleep, and the obit will be out on Sat., so I have been helping edit that today, and I am emotionally drained going through all these feelings so soon after loosing Daddy, and dealing with the memories of Wendy and Cynthia. So, I am sorry if I am posting too much, but I am going on so much nervous energy and it feels good to be, after so many years, doing SOMETHING, instead of just SITTING and wondering what happened, you know? anyway, once again thanks for the warm welcome. I downloaded someones five year anniver. poster off the newsletter. Good looking son she has. We will find him too. Just you wait and see if we dont. aisha

[aisha hashmi]

aisha hashmi welcome to ws we are a really great group of people.

I can see that already! I am so happy to be here!!!

feel free to pm me anytime about the case i saw it on unsolved and was moved by the case and the lack of evidence on the other familys part i knew something was up with chad and the grandma and everyone else they must have had it planed out or something. id love for this case to be solved sometime soon let me know what avenues have already been used
As far as I know, only the OFBI and UNSOLVED MYSTERIES, as well as posters offering money for her return, the doenetwork, and the guy out in shamrock who offered to let his well get dug up.


has le been contacted and pressured into looking back into the case
WHo is LE? I only the private eye JIM C, and Jackie Johnson, I will ask mom or you can email her at ja_t_1@hotmail.com I told her about this link, and she will be joining as soon as she gets on line today.

has chad and his family been pressured to talk.
I spoke with Johnathan a few months ago to see how he was doing asnd I never ever talk with him about this, as he was only 4 when it happened and I dont feel comfortable asking him anyway as beverly has him so brainwashed its pathetic.
the part that struck me odd was that they used the old two lane highway or something to get to the diner to meet chad?
I was living in New york with my husband at the time, and I have never, in my life that I am aware of, been on this highway that is spoken of, and since Wendy dissapeared thereI will NEVER go on it, so I would have to ask mom this, or ask her to post the answer to that here.

or was that to bring them home? and then how it would have taken them 3 hrs to get to where they were comming from and it was like next to impossible?
I only know that after he dropped them off he met his mom and ida (Mom if this is wrong quote me and fix,. please) or they went together, at a diner for dinner or something. My mom told me this and the details are so fuzzy, and I cant remember, and Mom had so many anxiety attacks and problems we hated disscussing any of this with her, so thiats why I brought her around so slowly and she took to it like a fish in water, I dont know why I was worried! She is so excited! Anyway, they either claimed to have had dinner or they did have dinner, and thats all I can remember about it. Sorry. We will get the answer from Mom in a few hours if Im not mistaken cause moms rarin to go on here, lol./.. As I am sure you all know, her name is Jackie Taylor. I feel my answer isnt to helpful, so I help I didnt make it even more confusing

[aisha hashmi]

Okay I spoke to mom earlier and she said that beverly and ida claim to have dropped them off ACROSS the street FROM the walmart, and ASSUME they went there after they left.... so I still dont know about security tapes, but I am sure that something as simple as that would have been covered already...

[docwho3]

Okay I spoke to mom earlier and she said that beverly and ida claim to have dropped them off ACROSS the street FROM the walmart, and ASSUME they went there after they left.... so I still dont know about security tapes, but I am sure that something as simple as that would have been covered already... Yes, you would hope the tapes were looked at and although we do not know what L.E. (Law Enforcement) found on the tapes it would seem that one could have eliminated their presence in the store or confirmed their presence based on those tapes.

As to the claim of letting them off across the street from Walmart:
I wonder what was across the street from Walmart at the time, a shopping mall or nothing or what? I would hope someone had a security cam pointed out that might show the road in the background and it might at least show if a vehicle of the type or size in question had stopped along the road and dropped anyone off and then moved on. And if such tapes ever existed were they taped over or saved forever? A simple call to any stores near where it is alleged they were dropped off, such as walmart, might get you the answers to whether the tapes ever were looked at or if they were saved or taped over since then.

It just seems odd to drop someone across the street from a walmart when you (the generic "you" & not you personally) could easily pull in and let someone off right at the store unless you knew no security cams were pointed out that direction and so you needed a story that placed you somewhere that could not really be verified by a security tape.

And yes, to me, this whole things sounds like a set up of some sort to perm. terminate her parental rights.

And one bit of advice: If you want to post a pic it seems to work better to put them on photobucket (a free picture hosting website) and then place the link to the picture in a post. Just a thought, I hope it helps.

[KT Can]

bump......

[aisha hashmi]

What does BUMP mean? Sorry, i am finding I do not know what a lot of these "phrases" mean....
bump......

[inquiringmindz]

Walmarts usually have security cameras both in the store and outside pointed at the parking lot so if they were really ever there you would think there would be evidence of it. Even a view of the vehicle they were allegedly dropped off from with them shown exiting might be possible if the story about dropping them off there had been true. I suspect the lack of such evidence is as telling, in its own way, as it would have been if the tapes had shown proof of the story.
I worked as part time Christmas help at WM in 1990 or 1991. This WM did not have security cameras at the time on the inside of the building or on the outside. They had the smoke colored domes on the ceilings with the blinking red light but it was just a dummy to deter shoppers from stealing. Hopefully this WM had the real thing.

[inquiringmindz]

What does BUMP mean? Sorry, i am finding I do not know what a lot of these "phrases" mean...."Bump" means to bump it to the top of the list. When a thread receives a post, it goes to the front page and is more visible. Hopefully more posters will read it.

BTW (by the way), welcome to WS! :)

[christine2448]

bump......Hiya KT, I thought I had popped in to let you know I was printing this thread to catch up....but I don't see my post :waitasec: Maybe I pm'd ya! Heck, you know me, don't remember what I had for breakfast, wait, I don't eat breakfast! Thanks for inviting me to this thread....I hope I can contribute something?

Oh, yes, I remember PMing you now....did you find out if you can change the name of the thread to the missings' names/date?

Anyway..trying to catch up, hello everyone!

[docwho3]

I worked as part time Christmas help at WM in 1990 or 1991. This WM did not have security cameras at the time on the inside of the building or on the outside. They had the smoke colored domes on the ceilings with the blinking red light but it was just a dummy to deter shoppers from stealing. Hopefully this WM had the real thing. I certainly hope the cameras were real & were working at that time at that place and at any other store facing that road. And I very much hope they were actually looked at and hopefully copied if any tapes existed.

[mysteriew]

Brief mention in the Dallas Morning News
Jul 28, 1992
A $5,000 reward is being offered for help in finding two Oklahoma City women and a child missing since May 29. Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation officials said the reward offer will expire in four months. Last seen at a store in Chandler, in Creek County, were Lisa Ranae Kregear, 25; Wendy Laraine Camp, 23; and Ms. Camp's daughter Cynthia M. Britto, 6.
http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=DM&p_theme=dm&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0ED3D254E84BD382&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM

[mysteriew]

Welcome to WS Kimberly.


I hope we can help you to find your family. I found on another website this 'update'. http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=154119&highlight=wendy+camp

'I have friend that lives in the Shamrock, OK area where Wendy Camp, her daughter and Lisa Kriegar went missing after making a trip to Shamrock from OKC to visit Wendy's son. Bones were found in a pond located on private property in the Drumright/Shamrock area. Bones are those thought to be Wendy Camp, her daughter and Lisa Kriegar. An investigation is under way to determine more information as to what happened. It has been rumored that Chad Noe killed them and placed them in pond and had help. '

Have you heard anything about this? I am so sorry for your losses.

Kimberly, good idea to register for that board. If you click on TruCrimeJunkie's name you can send a private message or an email to her, since you are now a member. We need to try to get the date the remains were found if possible. Right now it sounds like local rumor, but it is worth checking out. She said she would post a link but never did. (The reported finding of multiple bodies in a pond would get the community to questioning if the remains could be from the women, but they could actually be male bodies).
We also need to try to find a newspaper article that references the find. If Kimberly had that, then she could make contact with the LE again and ask about it. The finding of three female bodies should have triggered LE to contact the family and request dental records. Since they evidently didn't, then either they weren't female, or the info about the bodies has been buried. So info on the remains found is vital.

[aisha hashmi]

LOL thanks for the info I feel so stupid trying to figure out what all these things mean and dont mean to inconviencence anyone, :) Thank you for taking the time to help me as well as welcome me, and for spending time disscusing my sister and niece's case. It means the world to me and my family, and any and all who loved wendy, cynthia and lisa.

"Bump" means to bump it to the top of the list. When a thread receives a post, it goes to the front page and is more visible. Hopefully more posters will read it.

BTW (by the way), welcome to WS! :)

[aisha hashmi]

Kimberly, good idea to register for that board. If you click on TruCrimeJunkie's name you can send a private message or an email to her, since you are now a member.

Yes I did this I think, I cant remember, as I was emailing and posting in a flurry of activity....

We need to try to get the date the remains were found if possible. Right now it sounds like local rumor, but it is worth checking out. She said she would post a link but never did. (The reported finding of multiple bodies in a pond would get the community to questioning if the remains could be from the women, but they could actually be male bodies).

You would think it would get a TON of local news and media coverage, but I am not aware of any type of news media about bones or anything of this type of find so I am skeptical, but hopeful.... I wish this lady/man would post again.... Or get in touch with me personally.

We also need to try to find a newspaper article that references the find. If Kimberly had that, then she could make contact with the LE again and ask about it. The finding of three female bodies should have triggered LE to contact the family and request dental records.

I know that you all have been so kind and wonderful to me, and I have only one request to you. I hope that you accept me with open arms, warts and all. I know that you can see I sign my name Kimberly Aisha Taylor Hashmi, right? Sure, Taylor is my Maiden name, and I keep that in my name soley so that you can connect me to my mother and wendy and cynthia, though it is un-neccesary. I am in the proccess of changing my name legaly to Aisha and for the last 20 years I have went by aisha soley, and I prefer to be called this. If you call me kimberly that is okay, but can I sign just aisha hashmi and not confuse anyone? I am scared to make anyone think I am not wendys sister with a name like this, and I would hate for some one to not believe me... I really hope that you dont mind and I thank each and every one of you in advance. Since they evidently didn't, then either they weren't female, or the info about the bodies has been buried. So info on the remains found is vital.We hope that any info that can be found on this is found as we have searched the net for days now with NO luck.....

[mysteriew]

I found an email address for the Drumright newspaper

email: news @ drumrightgusher.com

http://www.smalltownpapers.com/listDMG.htm

If it were me, and knowing the history I would try to be vague about exactly who I was looking for. Maybe something along the lines of lost a relative near there, found a mention of bodies found in the drumright/shamrock area and wanted to get more information about them. But don't mention who they are or how many bodies. Ask how you go about getting info from their archives.

Three nearby newspapers
Stilwell email : stilwell_democrat_journal @ hotmail.com <stilwell_democrat_journal @ hotmail.com>
http://www.members.tripod.com/stilwelldj/index.htm

Sand Springs
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?brd=2754

Sapulpa
http://www.sapulpadailyherald.com/

[Gozer Jr]

Bumping this up again, I was just watching this case on a tape of UM and thinking of Wendy

[Tranaice]

Kimberly, are there any updates? I haven't posted in this thread before, but I do have you and your family in my thoughts and prayers and I always check to see if there is anything new.

[teonspaleprincess]

I worked as part time Christmas help at WM in 1990 or 1991. This WM did not have security cameras at the time on the inside of the building or on the outside. They had the smoke colored domes on the ceilings with the blinking red light but it was just a dummy to deter shoppers from stealing. Hopefully this WM had the real thing.
I also worked at a Walmart (in NC) and all the cameras were fakes except the ones above the registers.

[aisha hashmi]

Hello to all. I was just wanting to let you all know a few things, kind of a quick update. Now that the 15th anniv. of the vanishing is approaching, I am trying so hard to get out in the media this awareness again about my case. Please, emails to an editor from me are not being answered, leading me to believe they think I am a crackpot, or they are just not interested in this story.... anyone wanna help me in emailing these creeps???
Thanks, wendy's sister and cynthia's aunt...

[aisha hashmi]

It would seem from all posts and available information, that it is simply the Mother-In-Law's word which places the three at the parked car.
Well, me being wendy's sister, and cynthia's neice, I amm telling you the only TRUE thing we know of is that wendy called her husband Leon from a payphone in shamrock to tell him she was on her way home, which the FBI and OSBI HAVE pulled the phone records from that payphone to confirm that, and it was true. That is the ONLY true info we know of. The superhighway would make it IMPOSSIBLE for my sister to have been dropped off at the walmart, as it was on the other side of the highway. It is complicated unless you have been there, to know what I mean....Maybe someone can get a satelite of the area to see what I mean?
Me, aisha-kimberly, wendys little sis..

[muse217]

Bump...bumpbump...

[muse217]

:chicken: I didn't realize that there had been a post on this thread yesterday!

I find this case particularly interesting because it involved not one, but three people disappearing from the fact of the earth. I hope Kimberly and her family will find closure; I will keep them in my prayers.

muse217

[aisha hashmi]

Well, with the anniv coming around in May on the 29th of the 15th year of my beloved sister and neice and sisters sister-in-law's "vanishings", I have a request. I am trying to get a press release out to get this back in the media. If you know the email address of either A) The oklahoman, B) Dallas Morning News or C) any nearby cities to edmond, guthrie or surrounding cities that would be near bristow or shamrock, would YOU please email the editor, somthing short and sweet, such as being interested in whatever happend to.... I have been ignored and I think that the newspapers think it is a waste of time or that no one is isnterested or remembers... I called the oklahoman the other day and left voicemail but have not heard anything back, :((:waitasec: If a LOT of people ask about this, surely they will run a story on my family? I thank you in advance for any and or even just one email from anyone, and I cant thank you enough for all you have done.
Love,
Kimberly-Aisha Hashmi

[muse217]

Here are a couple of names to start with regarding the anniversary:
Robin Davison, News Research Editor, The Oklahoman: rdavison@olkahoman.com; Tawnell D. Hobbs and Katie Fairbank from the Dallas Morning News: tdhobbs@dallasnews.com and kfairbank@dallasnews.com.

I will try to find other papers to contact. Being in South Florida, though, I'm not familiar with the geography of Oklahoma.

[christine2448]

Isn't Kelly Jowlkowski (Jason Jowlkowski's mom of Project Jason) based in Oklahoma? Maybe Jason's Project can lend assistance to this family? www.projectjason.org

[christine2448]

Can someone, that is a better writer than I, compose an email w/this story and post for us to copy and past to send out emails to media outlets?

[christine2448]

JACKPOT!

Contacts for EVERY newspaper in Oklahoma!

OKLAHOMA PRESS ASSOCIATION (http://www.okpress.com/Aboutus/members/mempapers.html)

[aisha hashmi]

Well, I was wanting to know if anyone BESIDES me is interested in emailing the heck out of these people, cause I have the email addys but no one is getting in touch with me, returning my calls or emails, and I am at the END OF MY ROPE....
PLEASE, send one, two, a hundred emails to the editors of these papers, any in Oklahoma, as I have gotten so tired of trying to make them listen. Everyone is ready to say I am so sorry how can I help, but when I ask those in charge for a story they act like I am asking for 10 million dollars. HELP ME PLEASE!!!! Sincerely, I thank you guys for all you have done for me, even when I did not even know this site existed... I cant thank you enough for just listening to me and letting me let off some of this negative steam and frustration. I love all of you like my family. Please, email me directly at cricketwinner@hotmail.com if you like and I will give any and all details and or answer any questions you have. Aisha Kimberly Hashmi

[christine2448]

Well, I was wanting to know if anyone BESIDES me is interested in emailing the heck out of these people, cause I have the email addys but no one is getting in touch with me, returning my calls or emails, and I am at the END OF MY ROPE....
PLEASE, send one, two, a hundred emails to the editors of these papers, any in Oklahoma, as I have gotten so tired of trying to make them listen. Everyone is ready to say I am so sorry how can I help, but when I ask those in charge for a story they act like I am asking for 10 million dollars. HELP ME PLEASE!!!! Sincerely, I thank you guys for all you have done for me, even when I did not even know this site existed... I cant thank you enough for just listening to me and letting me let off some of this negative steam and frustration. I love all of you like my family. Please, email me directly at cricketwinner@hotmail.com if you like and I will give any and all details and or answer any questions you have. Aisha Kimberly Hashmi

aisha, copy and paste the email you have been sending here, that is what I was saying, we should compose an email, for us websleuthers to copy and paste, with all relevant info, and we can attack all the links if we work together :) We WILL bombard them with emails, I have seen this before, and it can make a difference!

[smile22]

start off by saying i have a story i would like to bring to your attention. the story of wendy and so forth. the case has been cold for such a long time the ann is comming up of the disaperance mention your the sister looking for leads such and such

[aisha hashmi]

start off by saying i have a story i would like to bring to your attention. the story of wendy and so forth. the case has been cold for such a long time the ann is comming up of the disaperance mention your the sister looking for leads such and such


I would like for YOU to each write your OWN email, in your OWN words, not in my belhalf. In other words, if you will write to the emails on the post provided below my original post, that YOU yourself would like to know "whatever happend to these people" or something to that effect. I am still doing my own emails, and if anyone would like to join in, have at it! I thank you from the bottom of my heart.
Aisha Kimberly Hashmi

[muse217]

<< would like for YOU to each write your OWN email, in your OWN words, not in my belhalf.>>

I believe that having a letter template would help those of us who are pressed for time because of jobs, family, etc. to easily contact those whom you deem to be important. I'm pretty pressed for time right, although I'd like to help. The letter below is a sample of a template. You just have to fill in the information that occurs between the brackets << >>.

Here's some sample copy:

Dear <<Name>>:
I am writing to ask your assistance in locating <<Name>>, her daughter and sister's sister-in-law, who have been missing for <<#of years>>. Foul play is suspected.

Because cold cases seldom receive any notice in the press, I am asking you to <<list whatever you want the person to do, here>>.

Your assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,
<<Your Name>>

[aisha hashmi]

Okay, I am taking three secs of my time to once again say thanks to CHRISITINE2448 for posting this, http://www.okpress.com/Aboutus/members/mempapers.html

It has taken me three days now to go to each website then search for the email addy of who I need to email, but every little helps! As for the form letter, that is a no go... If the editor recieves the exact same email from three hundred people then they are likely to not take it seriously, or from people who are really interested in the story. I am sure that if you take a moment to look at the list above and choose even just ONE newspaper to email asking hey, whatever happened to Wendy camp, Cynthia Britto, and Lisa Kreager? I remembered reading a story about them around 15 yrs ago, and never have heard if the case was resolved>? Could you run an updater on this case? I also recall that a segment was run about these three on Unsolved Mysteries, but have no way of being updated through them as it is a show no longer in production, etc.... I mean, come up with your OWN request! If you have a lot of interest to get a news media release, on the May 29th anniv. date like I am, then request one!!! That is all I am asking for. If you are too busy with job, work, etc, then feel free to not partake in this! I only asked, not ordered.... Again, if a form letter or petition, or anything as such is recieved by one person, they will think, "I just read a letter with the exact same wording," and they may think it is ME sending the same letter over and over and not take it seriously.... Please, THAT is the ONLY reason I am not doing anything that could be copied+pasted then just signed with a name..... Thanks for those who take the time to do this, and also thanks to those who don't. I still love you for remembering my family in this difficult time, and for not forgetting us. Wendy would have said thanks as well, so I speak for my sweet big sis and say thankyou for her!
Love to all of you
Aisha

[smile22]

Okay, I am taking three secs of my time to once again say thanks to CHRISITINE2448 for posting this, http://www.okpress.com/Aboutus/members/mempapers.html

It has taken me three days now to go to each website then search for the email addy of who I need to email, but every little helps! As for the form letter, that is a no go... If the editor recieves the exact same email from three hundred people then they are likely to not take it seriously, or from people who are really interested in the story. I am sure that if you take a moment to look at the list above and choose even just ONE newspaper to email asking hey, whatever happened to Wendy camp, Cynthia Britto, and Lisa Kreager? I remembered reading a story about them around 15 yrs ago, and never have heard if the case was resolved>? Could you run an updater on this case? I also recall that a segment was run about these three on Unsolved Mysteries, but have no way of being updated through them as it is a show no longer in production, etc.... I mean, come up with your OWN request! If you have a lot of interest to get a news media release, on the May 29th anniv. date like I am, then request one!!! That is all I am asking for. If you are too busy with job, work, etc, then feel free to not partake in this! I only asked, not ordered.... Again, if a form letter or petition, or anything as such is recieved by one person, they will think, "I just read a letter with the exact same wording," and they may think it is ME sending the same letter over and over and not take it seriously.... Please, THAT is the ONLY reason I am not doing anything that could be copied+pasted then just signed with a name..... Thanks for those who take the time to do this, and also thanks to those who don't. I still love you for remembering my family in this difficult time, and for not forgetting us. Wendy would have said thanks as well, so I speak for my sweet big sis and say thankyou for her!
Love to all of you
Aisha



hey i will be writing out an email sometime this week i have been busy with work this weekend ( i work retail and we have a huge easter rush last minute). by tuesday things should be settling down and ill have time to compose a letter

[Pepper]

Hey, I was going to send an email, but the link you provided to the newspapers no workie this morning.

Kimberly, if you have some addresses and email addresses of the newspapers you would like us to hit, can you post those addresses here? I can send out some emails, but I don't have the time to run down all the addresses.

[aisha hashmi]

Here is the draft I am working on with some help from a very nice woman who is dedicated to the CAUSE, lol... Read on:

It's been almost fifteen years since two Oklahoma City women and a
child were reported missing, and the Sister and Aunt of two of the
victims, Aisha-Kimberly Hashmi, of Grand Prairie, Texas, needs to know what happened to them.
Wendy Camp, Hashmi's sister, and Camp's Daughter Cynthia Britto, 6,
along with Camp's sister-in-law Lisa Renee Kregear, 25, were reported
missing May 29, 1992. "My mother feels and believes they were killed the
day they went missing, but we simply have never had enough proof or evidence to support this; or to bring those who we suspect responsible to trial," said Hashmi.
Kregear, Camp and Britto went to visit Camp's son, Jonathon Noe, at
His father's home in Shamrock on May 29, according to family and statements made to police. Beverly Noe had contacted Wendy Camp early that morning and offered to drive Her to see her son since Camp was handicapped due to MS, Multiple Sclerosis, and could not drive.
Kregear accompanied Camp, because Wendy's Husband Leon, did not want her to go alone, as well as to provide help with managing Cynthia.
Phone records have proven that Camp called Her Husband, Leon Camp, in Oklahoma City from the Shamrock Cafe, in Shamrock about 5 p.m. the day of their disappearance.
Camp stated that the group were "on their way home", and that Beverly was "rushing and hurrying Her". That call is the last time anyone has heard from any of the three.
Wendy, Cynthia, and Lisa Renee were last seen in a 1983 gray Audi in
Chandler. In Beverly Noe's original statement to police she stated that
She allegedly dropped the three off on the side of old Highway 66 after a
disagreement with Camp. After authorities questioned Noe about some of the details of the three's disappearance, Her story changed. Noe now says that She dropped the three off "in the Wal-Mart parking lot." No one who was interviewed, including those who had shopped that day at the store, or any employees on duty that day, could recall seeing a handicapped woman and a child, accompanied by another adult female in the store, or in the parking lot. Wendy's disability gave Her a very distinctive walk and her left arm was drawn up to her chest, and she walked very slowly. Authorities believe that would have made Her appearance quite memorable.
Wendy did not have Her life preserving medication with her. Camp's doctors had recently tried to wean her off all Her medications, only to see Her relapse back into an almost coma-like state within just a few days. Noe was aware of the fact that Camp did not have this medication with Her, and that Camp needed to get back home quickly.
"My Father passed away last June 29th, and He went to His grave
without ever finding out what happened to His beloved Daughter and Grand-Daughter. "It is so unfair." "We just need to know," states Hashmi.
Camp is 5 feet, 3 inches tall, weighs 200 pounds and has brown hair and eyes. Camp has multiple sclerosis and walks with a limp. She was last seen wearing a red sweat shirt and pants and white tennis shoes.
Britto is 3 feet tall, weighs about 60 pounds and has brown hair and brown eyes. She was last seen wearing a pink sweater, light blue corduroy pants, a blue and black striped shirt and tennis shoes.
Kregear is 5 feet, 4 inches tall, weighs 130 pounds, and has blond hair and blue eyes. She was last seen wearing acid-washed jeans and a
yellow and white striped shirt.
The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation and local authorities have
conducted aerial and ground searches for the three to no avail, but
welcome tips on the three's disappearance.
Anyone with information should call the OSBI's 24-hour hotline, at 1-800-522-8017.



How does it sound? LET ME KNOW!!! Thanks for taking the time to read this..

[aisha hashmi]

NOT for my sister or neice's abduction. They are in for, of all things, ARSON... Read my blog, see their PHOTOS, and compare Ida to the unsolved mysteries segmant, and YUCK, look at how she has aged......*shivers UNCONTROLLABLY, WHILE vomitting* Comment on my blog so I know you were there!!! THANKS!!! Aisha-Kimberly Hashmi

[InterestedNHelping]

Now that you have this information about these women, you should contact the press, or the district attorney after the press, and get a press agent to press the DA to investigate these women. If there is a public pressure like the press they may actually get some info from these women.

[aisha hashmi]

Check in the OKLAHOMA press this next week... YEAH!!!!!!!

[pittsburghgirl]

I did a little noodling on the Oklahoma Courts site, and got the case numbers. Evidently the arson also involved some sort of insurance fraud, which may be why the cases don't turn up newspaper articles.

Ida's case is listed as Prewitt, Ida J. case# CF-06-00165.

Beverly's is CF-06-00166.

The county is Creek.

It would seem to me that, now that these two are established as criminals and incarcerated, the relevant cold case unit might want to work this case a little harder. Their "influence," whatever it was, is no longer likely to be relevant.

ETA: It also occurs to me that this thread might be renamed to mark the case in some way--"do you remember" was a logical place to start, given the poster's question, but things have moved along now and others might notice the thread if it were more precisely identified. Is that a good idea, does anyone think, or is it even possible?

[smile22]

we would have to ask the mods to change it i think

[aisha hashmi]

I hope its not too presumtious (HOPE I did not mispell that) to request that we re-name the thread to WENDY CAMP HOT CASE NOW!!! There have been some EXCELENT leads since the press release! I cant discuss anything, but now, the OSBI has started the offer for $5,000 for information again, and hopefully now that these two scumbags are in jail and unable to intimidate anyone anymore, someone will come forward!!!!:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :laugh: :laugh: Did you see my WONDERFULLLLLLL new avatar of the stupid two jailbirds,:behindbar :behindbar !!!!! HA HA HA!!!! Thanks to the two who worked on it for me! You guys rock!!! I will include all the links here to the press releases I have and one is a video. UNFORTUNATLY, :banghead: , MY interview with channel 9 is not posted as the as*holes who run the channel 9 are also run by the local newspaper and the paper chooses what videos are posted... They will send me my interview, then I will post it on here, cross my heart. Give them a few days to get it to me... anyway check these out for now...

http://www.fox23.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=20453#top

http://www.kten.com/Global/story.asp?S=6581153

Associated Press - May 29, 2007 1:35 PM ET

http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=128347


Anyway thats all I have for now, and if anyone in oklahoma was lucky enough to see my interview let me know!!!!

[ShurlT]

Aisha, just a thought. How old would Jonathan be today? Maybe he knows something, saw something or heard something through the years. If he's old enough now, maybe the sherriff who said she might reopen the case talked to him she might find out something. At the same time, I wouldn't want to see him put in danger by that family if he does know something. Have you ever seen him since his mother went to visit him?
My theory is they planned this and your sister was never dropped off at the shopping mall.
My prayers and hopes are with you that you will get some answers and hopefully soon. I also wonder if it would do any good to search their property if they owned any.

[SeriouslySearching]

Hi! I didn't realize this thread was about the missing family. Thanks, Pittsburg for pointing me in this direction.

Here is a thread I just started:
Family Missing For 15 Years~Reward! (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49954) I will gladly go and delete it if you want.

The person who started this thread can go back and click the Edit button to rename this one.

[SeriouslySearching]

Well, me being wendy's sister, and cynthia's neice, I amm telling you the only TRUE thing we know of is that wendy called her husband Leon from a payphone in shamrock to tell him she was on her way home, which the FBI and OSBI HAVE pulled the phone records from that payphone to confirm that, and it was true. That is the ONLY true info we know of. The superhighway would make it IMPOSSIBLE for my sister to have been dropped off at the walmart, as it was on the other side of the highway. It is complicated unless you have been there, to know what I mean....Maybe someone can get a satelite of the area to see what I mean?
Me, aisha-kimberly, wendys little sis..

Here is a link to the map from Shamrock to the Walmart from Route 66. You can click into the satellite mode from there.
http://www.google.com/maps?q=Shamrock,+OK,+USA&sa=X&oi=map&ct=title

[pittsburghgirl]

Hi! I didn't realize this thread was about the missing family. Thanks, Pittsburg for pointing me in this direction.

Here is a thread I just started:
Family Missing For 15 Years~Reward! (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49954) I will gladly go and delete it if you want.

The person who started this thread can go back and click the Edit button to rename this one.

Thanks right back at ya! I never know how to do these things. I still can't do italics, etc., either. But that's the great things about this board; people help each other with things large and small. Because you care about the case, I I didn't want you to miss this thread, since Aisha has been hard at work and the case is heating up. I wouldn't delete yours because itn has all the basic information and it can be like a breadcrumb trail back to this one, for now.

[aisha hashmi]

GREAT JOB! I thank each of you from the bottom of my heart for even caring as much as you do about my sister and neice, and lisa renee. This has been a b*tch of a month, but knowing beverly and Ida are in jail has made it a little nicer, :) HOPE they are GETTING the END of an UNPLEASANT broom handle put somewhere they dont right about now, :behindbar LET ME OUT, MOMMY!!! HA HA HA HA LOL I hate them and hope they are killed in there.

[KT Can]

I am sooooo glad to FINALLY see that this case is getting the attention it deserves!!! I've NEVER understood how THREE people, including a child, could go missing and LE not do anything about it, even when they had suspects with a motive - ugh!!! Now that these two "alleged" ;) murderess hags are behind bars maybe people will start to get on board and see what kind of people we are dealing with here. Good luck to you Aisha, I'm keeping my fingers crossed!

[aisha hashmi]

Johnathan is almost 20. When I spoke to him last week he was VERY interested in being interviewed by channel 9 in oklahoma, as I was, and when they tried to call him, Debbie, Beverly's sister, who must have had to stay at her home while she is in jail and to take care of Johnathan, spoke to the reporter Stacey Cameron and told him that Johnathan would not be able to talk to the press, he was "mentally Retarded", and who had given them the phone number to their home, and who told them that Johnathan wanted to speak to the press, etc... NOW he is unreachable, even to ME, as when I call I am told, "He will be away for up to two months, ETC... They claim to not know the phone number to where he is, and I asked for the message to be given to him for him to call me, and they say the message has been given, BUT, how did they do that, EXACTLY? He has no number for them to reach him, right?!?!? SURE....

Aisha, just a thought. How old would Jonathan be today? Maybe he knows something, saw something or heard something through the years. If he's old enough now, maybe the sherriff who said she might reopen the case talked to him she might find out something. At the same time, I wouldn't want to see him put in danger by that family if he does know something. Have you ever seen him since his mother went to visit him?
My theory is they planned this and your sister was never dropped off at the shopping mall.
My prayers and hopes are with you that you will get some answers and hopefully soon. I also wonder if it would do any good to search their property if they owned any.

[Camper]

Just posting so I can get updated posts on my WS post alerts.

Good luck guys.

.

[Sleuthster]

Johnathan is almost 20. When I spoke to him last week he was VERY interested in being interviewed by channel 9 in oklahoma, as I was, and when they tried to call him, Debbie, Beverly's sister, who must have had to stay at her home while she is in jail and to take care of Johnathan, spoke to the reporter Stacey Cameron and told him that Johnathan would not be able to talk to the press, he was "mentally Retarded", and who had given them the phone number to their home, and who told them that Johnathan wanted to speak to the press, etc... NOW he is unreachable, even to ME, as when I call I am told, "He will be away for up to two months, ETC... They claim to not know the phone number to where he is, and I asked for the message to be given to him for him to call me, and they say the message has been given, BUT, how did they do that, EXACTLY? He has no number for them to reach him, right?!?!? SURE....

Does Jonathan have a myspace? I looked in the area of the zipcode for Chandler,OK but there where a few jonathans that are 20 yo.
It would be interesting to see if he says anything on there or if he does display "mentally retarded characteristics".

Cindi

[KT Can]

Bump.....

[TCMom]

Hi Kimberly-

I just read up on your case and was doing a little research. Do you know why a civil case was filed against your sister, her two children and Joseph L Camp 4 years after her disappearance? What is this about? Is Joseph and Leon the same man?

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_19961101/ai_n10098014

CIVIL


Journal Record, The (Oklahoma City) (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182), Nov 1, 1996 (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4182/is_19961101)

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[valmar Kregear]

Well what do we have here. I search on the net about my mom and i find this threat and its still alive with activity, Outstanding! I am the son of lisa. Uncle leons nephew. I remember playing with cynthia. Tho I cant believe its been 15 years, im 21 now. There's a lot of info that I never knew about on here. My dad still has the origional newspaper article and its still hard to look at whenever i see it. Well I wish i could post more now but i'll have to wait till tommorow. I do work after all. Ask me questions if you want but remember that i was 6 at the time so i really dont remember much, but if its to speed this up then im glad to help.

[Crafty Gal]

I hope that we hear some news soon. I have posted information to forums that I belong to. We are with you and I hope that we find out what has happened to Wendy, Cynthia and Lisa. The families need closure.

Crafty

[Angie4b1g]

What ever happened with the 2 sets of bones that were found?

[Gina_M]

Well what do we have here. I search on the net about my mom and i find this threat and its still alive with activity, Outstanding! I am the son of lisa. Uncle leons nephew. I remember playing with cynthia. Tho I cant believe its been 15 years, im 21 now. There's a lot of info that I never knew about on here. My dad still has the origional newspaper article and its still hard to look at whenever i see it. Well I wish i could post more now but i'll have to wait till tommorow. I do work after all. Ask me questions if you want but remember that i was 6 at the time so i really dont remember much, but if its to speed this up then im glad to help.

Welcome to Websleuths, Taylor. I hope we can find out what happened to your mom, aunt and cousin. I don't have any questions right now, but please feel free to come back and share your thoughts with us.

[Coonie40]

Bump!....

[Gina_M]

I used the new "tag" feature to add a couple keywords for this thread.

[Kathee]

Bump...

[aisha hashmi]

First of all, this is Wendy's sister, and I remember you faintly, and I hope that you remember me a little. I met you only once or twice. But anyway, Oh my god!!!
I have been searching for all of you guys for YEARS!!! Last I heard, leon was in killeen texas or something. I have had NO luck in finding him! I have some very urgent news you may want to know about. Please, email for phone number, or to give me yours and I will call you.
Also there was someone who posted a few below about a civil suit in 1996, maybe this was on the house wendy, leon and lisa-renee all lived in at the time of the dissapearance. When Leons father passed, maybe other family members where fighting over the fact that Leon was or was not the rightful owner???? I have NOOOOO clue, as I nver heard of this! I will ask my mom, and tell you what I find out. Thanks again all of you with all my heart for even one single moment you take out of your day to try to wrap your brain around our family members, and Valmar, I am SOOOOO happy to be in touch with you after sooooo long!!!!Please, email the administrator so she can verify your account info and I will give her a full release to give you my info if you would feel comfortable doing that, or if you like, email me directly at cricketwinner@hotmail.com and leave your info. I have a cell with unlimited minutes so never fear, I will call you.
Thanks and nice to have a fellow family member at my side, and I have thought every day about all three, and I will always do so. I am so sorry about your mother, and I hope that you are doing okay, as well as your other siblings.
Kimberly Aisha


Well what do we have here. I search on the net about my mom and i find this threat and its still alive with activity, Outstanding! I am the son of lisa. Uncle leons nephew. I remember playing with cynthia. Tho I cant believe its been 15 years, im 21 now. There's a lot of info that I never knew about on here. My dad still has the origional newspaper article and its still hard to look at whenever i see it. Well I wish i could post more now but i'll have to wait till tommorow. I do work after all. Ask me questions if you want but remember that i was 6 at the time so i really dont remember much, but if its to speed this up then im glad to help.

[gaia227]

Bumping

Could we rename this thread? I did a search for it a few weeks ago looking for info and because the names are not in the title I didn't come up with anything.

I was looking into it because of the close proximity to the triple abduction that happened in Springfield, MO

Aisha I am so happy to see that Wendy's has relatives that are here posting. I am also very happy to hear that this case is finally getting some press. I hope now that Beverly and Ida (they certainly are a lovely pair aren't they?) are in prison cold case detectives will put a lot of pressure on them. Good Luck and now that I found this thread (thanks Kathee) I will keep up with it.