Forensic Astrology - Haleigh Cummings #1

[FifthEssence]

AMBER ALERT issued 9:30 a.m. 2/10/09

http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/mcicsearch/FlyerNewPerson.asp?Case_Id=28474&case_nbr=

HALEIGH CUMMINGS
Date Missing: 2/10/2009
Missing From: Satsuma,FL County: PUTNAM
Birth Date: 8/17/2003
Age Disappeared: 5 yrs 5 months
Height: 3' 00" Race: White Hair: Blonde
Weight: 039 Sex: Female Eyes: Brown
Narrative: ***UPDATE The child's age and her last known location have been updated. UPDATE*** A Florida AMBER Alert has been issued for Haleigh Cummings,who was last seen in the area of Hermit's Cove in Satsuma, FL. She was last seen wearing a pink shirt and underwear.

[FifthEssence]

We need several pieces of info:

Haleigh's - place of birth city,town, county???

Time of Police Report- we know early Tues 2/10/09 morning around 3:45 a call was made to LE- is there a police report available and if so, what time is marked on it?


Mistie Croslin (Girlfriend) Birthdate & place if available
Ronald Cummings (Father) Birthdate & place

Thank you.

[Soulscape]

Here's where you All can get up to speed on Haleigh Cummings case:

Thread #1:
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79505

Thread #2:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79570

The case is highly disturbing. The little 5 year old disappeared into nowhere in the middle of the night. 24 y.o. Dad was at work and 17 y.o. Girlfriend was babysitting. They live in a community with only one road in & one road out. There are a high number of sex offenders in the neighborhood. The police are now saying it was an abduction.

Tim Miller and Leonard Padilla are getting involved. There will surely be up to the minute news on Nancy Grace tonight.

We need to get birth info on key players ASAP. TIA for your help on this.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[ROBLYN]

I am not sure if this is the correct spot to put this or if it will help...Please let me know and i will delete.
Video of Father making a plea for Haleigh's safe return.
http://www.news4jax.com/video/18682465/index.html
911 calls
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090211/ARTICLES/902110942/1002
Will see if i can find times of call, again sorry if this is not helpful, just sick about another little one being missing.

ETA: Father confirmed on NG 3:27am And He and Misty both took and passed pollygraphs?

[Soulscape]

Asking about DOB and such
Ronald Cummings (Father) 10-25-1983 (Putnam county, so I suspect that is the right one)

I had found the son earlier, can't find him now.

I can't find Misty either.

Zelmajane gave us what she believes is Ronald Cummings data. Could someone double-check? News stories say he's age 24. The 10/25/83 birthdate would give age 25.

Also if anyone can find the little brother's birth data, Ronald Cummings (Jr?) age 3, probably born near their home area (Buffalo Bluff, FL). Allegedly the 3 year old, Haleigh and the 17 y.o. GF (Mistie) were sleeping in the same bed.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[Soulscape]

I am not sure if this is the correct spot to put this or if it will help...Please let me know and i will delete.
Video of Father making a plea for Haleigh's safe return.
http://www.news4jax.com/video/18682465/index.html
911 calls
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090211/ARTICLES/902110942/1002
Will see if i can find times of call, again sorry if this is not helpful, just sick about another little one being missing.


I read somewhere the call to 911 was at 3:27 am, 2/10/09. Double-checking would be good.

Thanks Roblyn.

~~Soulscape

[Soulscape]

For Bio Mother...

Crystal Sheffield
All I can gather is July 1986

This is Haleigh's bio mother, she now lives in Georgia. She is also the mother of the 3 year old brother Ronald (Jr?).

Thanks,
Soulscape

[gibby207]

I read somewhere that Haleigh's b'day was August 17, 2003... Do you already have?

ETA: Ah... already do.

[Soulscape]

Pulling this over from regular Haleigh thread #2:

I do not believe the Bio mom was ever married to Ronald. Her last name is Sheffield. The Putnam County Clerk records show that Ronald sought paternity in 2005 against her and at the time her name was Sheffield then and there was an injuction against her for domestic violence against a child. This may well explain why CPS was involved with this family before.
C Sheffield violated the injunction per Duval county records and her address is listed in Glen St Mary FL.

Also a couple of records on him. Wildlife violation and another that does not state the crime.

Looking for her birth info. Crystal Sheffield.


Thanks,
Soulscape

[Soulscape]

I read somewhere that Haleigh's b'day was August 17, 2003... Do you already have?


Yes Gibby we have the date. We need to try to confirm a place of birth (city or town, state).

Thanks,
Soulscape

[FifthEssence]

I read somewhere the call to 911 was at 3:27 am, 2/10/09. Double-checking would be good.

Thanks Roblyn.

~~Soulscape

YES 3:27 phone call to police per Sheriff on phone w/ Jane Velez M program/HLN

[Soulscape]

YES 3:27 phone call to police per Sheriff on phone w/ Jane Velez M program/HLN

Thanks, Fifth!

I'm taking a break to tune into JVM and NG for the latest.

Be back later,

Love,
Soulscape

[Tuba]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/HaleighLastSeen005.jpg

You may already have this chart but I did put some thoughts underneath it.

[gibby207]

The articles that I am reading are stating that Crystal Sheffield is 23 so maybe July 1986 is incorrect or the newspapers are incorrect.

[Lovejac]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/HaleighLastSeen005.jpg

You may already have this chart but I did put some thoughts underneath it.


Good Heaven's Tuba! I understand this to indicate the 17 y.o. girlfriend is involved!

[beckaroozie]

Misty's MySpace says she's a Gemini...which would fit July...but the 1986 doesn't fit.

[beckaroozie]

Fox News has the police report, and this is a snip from and link to their story:

Haleigh, her 2-year-old brother and Croslin went to bed in the same room in the family's mobile home at about 10 p.m. Monday night, investigators said. Croslin told deputies the little girl got up between 3 and 3:30 a.m. to go to the bathroom.

About the same time, Cummings arrived home from work. When they went into the bedroom, he and Croslin say they discovered that Haleigh had vanished.

The back door was open, but investigators didn't find any sign of forced entry.

Cummings said his daughter is afraid of the dark and wouldn't wander away by herself.

Link:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491008,00.html

[salvarenga]

The Dad is on Nancy Grace. He says both he and the girlfriend passed polygraphs.

[Lovejac]

I'm watching too, salvarenga, while I am furiously trying to locate the girlfriend, Misty Croslin's date of birth.

[Salem]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/HaleighLastSeen005.jpg

You may already have this chart but I did put some thoughts underneath it.

Ohhhhhh Tuba - similarities with the McCann scenario are scary. This poor child. I hope they find her quickly. My heart has taken a leap to my throat.

May the angels be with you Haliegh!

Salem

[Soulscape]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/HaleighLastSeen005.jpg

You may already have this chart but I did put some thoughts underneath it.


Tuba, you have keyed in on a couple of things I also keyed into, particularly the SUN/NEPTUNE in House 5 of the Child and the similarities with the McCann abduction --- that thought did cross my mind.

I will post my chart in a few and hopefully add insights that may prove helpful. Even before it was revealed both dad & GF passed their polygraphs, after looking at the charts, I was not suspecting either one of them. This child has been kidnapped.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[Soulscape]

Haleigh Cummings, age 5, was last seen asleep in her bed by her dad's 17 year old girlfriend Misty Croslin at approx. 10:00 pm on Monday 2/9/09.

Charts here:

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/HaleighCummingsNATALSunrise.gif

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/HaleighCummingsLASTSEEN.gif

There are several things that strike me.

1. CHIRON (hurt, damage) is partile conjunct SUN in critical degree (21 Fixed) and both conjunct NEPTUNE (disappearance) in the 5th House of Children.

2. MOON separates from opposition to CHIRON/SUN/NEPTUNE conjunction across the 5/11 axis. This could suggest the danger comes from friend of the family (11th House of Friends). Because MOON is Void of Course and separating from the opposition, it's too late to stop whatever is in process of happening. If MOON could function despite being VOC, she would trine PLUTO, natural significator of kidnappers (along with NEPTUNE) in 4 degrees 9 minutes.

3. VENUS Lord 1 (Haleigh) is poorly placed in the radix 6th House close enough to 7th House cusp to indicate she is about to have a change in circumstances (changing houses). VENUS is afflicted by being in Aries, sign of her detriment, sextile to MARS (violence/rapist/murderer), square PLUTO (violence, kidnapping, abuse) and contraparallel URANUS (sudden change/ upheaval).

4. VENUS (Haleigh) is quindecile (165 degrees) SATURN, natural significator of Death, suggesting highly critical and unstable circumstances (remember SATURN is exactly opposed URANUS of instability).

5. I note that CHIRON/SUN/NEPTUNE conjunction is opposite Haleigh's natal SUN at 24 Leo and is partile opposed Part of Sonia* in Haleigh's natal Sunrise chart. (The Part of Sonia placement is very speculative because I don't have Haleigh's place of birth or time of birth. Nonetheless, I found this partile opposition very *coincidental* to say the least!)

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*Part of Sonia has been found prominent in death charts according to research done by Astrologer Lynn Koiner. I have been experimenting with it.
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6. Event chart ASCENDANT 11 Libra is partile trine Haleigh's natal NEPTUNE 11 Aquarius (disappearance).

7. Event chart BLACK MOON LILITH, often active in catastrophes/tragedies/fatalities, at 20 Capricorn is in same degree as Event chart SATURN opposite URANUS.

8. Event chart NODES at 9 Aquarius/Leo are in critical degree (9 Fixed) and in same degree as Haleigh's natal SATURN (9 Cancer).

9. Haleigh's natal SUN (24 Leo) is in Fateful Degree (same degree as the NODES) in her natal chart (NODES at 24 Taurus/Scorpio). According to Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson, this always connotes a catastrophe, tragedy or fatality, both in natal as well as horary charts.


Unfortunately, this preliminary evaluation points to abduction by a pedophile. I will have to study the other charts to see if they confirm.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[beckaroozie]

Soul,

Do the charts give any clues as to where she may have been taken or where she might be located in relation to the abduction site?

Thanks!

[Khaki_Pants]

Ok, posted in the ws thread about this case, they are talking about a known sex offender living a mere 500 feet of this little girls home. If it is true it seems it would give a perp the ability to know the family's habits and perhaps be on a friendly level with them. Is this worth more digging, as far as charts go?

[Soulscape]

Ok, posted in the ws thread about this case, they are talking about a known sex offender living a mere 500 feet of this little girls home. If it is true it seems it would give a perp the ability to know the family's habits and perhaps be on a friendly level with them. Is this worth more digging, as far as charts go?

If you can find his birth data we could compare charts, see if there are connections.

I can't help but think the perp would have to be familiar with layout of home to enter in the dark, go straight to bedroom and snatch little girl, be in & out in less than a minute.

I still need to review subsequent charts to get a better handle on this.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[beckaroozie]

That was a great idea Khaki Pants - here's what I found so far:

Kyle S Johns - Palatka, FL - lives within 500 ft.
DOB 08/31/1971 - Only shows Palatka for residences on people search...he's probably from there?

Adjudication Date 02/28/1995
LEWD,LASCIVIOUS CHILD U/16; F.S. 800.04 (PRINCIPAL) 9301910 PUTNAM, FL Guilty/convict



Timothy Randolph Loucakis, Satsuma, FL - Sexual Predator w/i .5 mile
DOB 10/14/1958

Date of Adjudication 05/17/2001
Produce, Direct, Promote Sexual Perform. by Child; F.S. 827.071(3) (PRINCIPAL) 0001355 PUTNAM, FL Guilty/convict

Places he's lived:
ASTOR, FL
BARBERVILLE, FL
ORLANDO, FL
PIERSON, FL
SATSUMA, FL
DALLAS, TX
GARLAND, TX

He has a brother in the Astor/Satsuma area that is 47 - Rodney, and all of Rodney's addys seem to be FL too - so it's most likely he was born in that area - imo[/B]

[salvarenga]

If I understand your chart correctly Soulscape, the outlook of finding this child alive is not good. Is that correct?

[momtective]

I was just wishing y'all could take a look at something from the Haleigh thread...I've had my head stuck in there all night and I should have known y'all were already hard at work on this....you guys & gals rock! Maybe y'all can take a look at these two http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3295983&postcount=16
Thanks

[mommya]

This is not astrological - but I thought I would throw it out there.

If this Mistie spells her name that way - an obvious anagram just jumps out - IT IS ME.


I've got a bad feeling about her involvement.

[Lovejac]

I was just wishing y'all could take a look at something from the Haleigh thread...I've had my head stuck in there all night and I should have known y'all were already hard at work on this....you guys & gals rock! Maybe y'all can take a look at these two http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3295983&postcount=16
Thanks

This is heartbreaking to read this thread. Lord, momtective, your link of the sex offenders gave me chills! I can't imagine to how scared Haileigh would be to look into those faces.

I will continue to pray for her.

O/T, while we were watching NG my husband asked, "What's up with children and Florida these days?':(

[Virtual Truth]

This is heartbreaking to read this thread. Lord, momtective, your link of the sex offenders gave me chills! I can't imagine to how scared Haileigh would be to look into those faces.

I will continue to pray for her.

O/T, while we were watching NG my husband asked, "What's up with children and Florida these days?':(

Oh, Lovejac,
My heart is breaking for this child, too. As an adult who was held for a short time and tortured, I have spent over 21 years with nightmares and constant moving to stay ahead of my fears --even though my attacker/rapist has been in prison all this time, and hopefully will be for the rest of his 35 year sentence.

I cannot stand to think about how terrified she must be at this moment. I pray that she will be found alive, and that she will get the professional help and love from family that she will need to help her heal and forget (assuming she has been taken by a sexual predator). My love and prays are with her.

[ROBLYN]

Soulscape Thank You for posting, i will continue to pray all night that she is found as safe as can be given that some SCUM BAG took this baby! i have not one thing to back that up, but i Know it, and it seems the planets do as well.She's afraid of the Dark, i will pray that she sees Light.

[Khaki_Pants]

Soulscape Thank You for posting, i will continue to pray all night that she is found as safe as can be given that some SCUM BAG took this baby! i have not one thing to back that up, but i Know it, and it seems the planets do as well.She's afraid of the Dark, i will pray that she sees Light.

As will I. How can things such as this ever be understood? That in itself seems like a silly question, but WHY do these things happen?

[Soulscape]

That was a great idea Khaki Pants - here's what I found so far:

Kyle S Johns - Palatka, FL - lives within 500 ft.
DOB 08/31/1971 - Only shows Palatka for residences on people search...he's probably from there?

Adjudication Date 02/28/1995
LEWD,LASCIVIOUS CHILD U/16; F.S. 800.04 (PRINCIPAL) 9301910 PUTNAM, FL Guilty/convict



Timothy Randolph Loucakis, Satsuma, FL - Sexual Predator w/i .5 mile
DOB 10/14/1958

Date of Adjudication 05/17/2001
Produce, Direct, Promote Sexual Perform. by Child; F.S. 827.071(3) (PRINCIPAL) 0001355 PUTNAM, FL Guilty/convict

Places he's lived:
ASTOR, FL
BARBERVILLE, FL
ORLANDO, FL
PIERSON, FL
SATSUMA, FL
DALLAS, TX
GARLAND, TX

He has a brother in the Astor/Satsuma area that is 47 - Rodney, and all of Rodney's addys seem to be FL too - so it's most likely he was born in that area - imo[/b]


Are these the two SO's Momtective refers to in quote below asking us to take a look?

I was just wishing y'all could take a look at something from the Haleigh thread...I've had my head stuck in there all night and I should have known y'all were already hard at work on this....you guys & gals rock! Maybe y'all can take a look at these two http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=16 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3295983&postcount=16)
Thanks

Thanks,
Soulscape

[Lovejac]

Oh, Lovejac,
My heart is breaking for this child, too. As an adult who was held for a short time and tortured, I have spent over 21 years with nightmares and constant moving to stay ahead of my fears --even though my attacker/rapist has been in prison all this time, and hopefully will be for the rest of his 35 year sentence.

I cannot stand to think about how terrified she must be at this moment. I pray that she will be found alive, and that she will get the professional help and love from family that she will need to help her heal and forget (assuming she has been taken by a sexual predator). My love and prays are with her.

Bless you, VT! I'm so sorry that happened to you. I hope you are still healing (I can't imagine one would ever be completely healed)

Thank you for sharing such a personal part of your life. :blowkiss:

[sweetmop]

I was just wishing y'all could take a look at something from the Haleigh thread...I've had my head stuck in there all night and I should have known y'all were already hard at work on this....you guys & gals rock! Maybe y'all can take a look at these two http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3295983&postcount=16
Thanks
that is chilling!
I was dumbfounded when I heard , on Nancy Grace show last night, that there were 44 registed sex offenders within a 5 mile radius of Haleigh's home!
What is going on!? That is unbelievable to me. I believe if these RSOs are not in prison, then they should be in a tent somewhere, in a camp far far away from children!
I am praying for this little girl. It sounds like the Jessica Lunsford case!
I can't bear to think of another one!

[sweetmop]

Oh, Lovejac,
My heart is breaking for this child, too. As an adult who was held for a short time and tortured, I have spent over 21 years with nightmares and constant moving to stay ahead of my fears --even though my attacker/rapist has been in prison all this time, and hopefully will be for the rest of his 35 year sentence.

I cannot stand to think about how terrified she must be at this moment. I pray that she will be found alive, and that she will get the professional help and love from family that she will need to help her heal and forget (assuming she has been taken by a sexual predator). My love and prays are with her.
My heart goes out to you, Virtual Truth. I thank God you survived.:blowkiss:

[FifthEssence]

YES Soulscape- your post #34 and names listed by Beck



a quick look at both those charts MAY give us some insight.

[Tuba]

Not at all confident of the time supplied by the live-in, particularly since the father provides different bed times for the live-in and the children and for the moment of discovery. However, the chart fits the circs. to some extent and if it is accurate, Haleigh went north north east to a secluded location that is not a bluff at all but low ground. Lot of growth.

Saturn retrograde is definitely registered in criminal records because he is a malefic and retrograde and Mercury trined him in the past for the entry into the books. Here again, operating from seclusion and ambush in House 12.

There are misstatements in the account of the live-in.

[Lovejac]

Not at all confident of the time supplied by the live-in, particularly since the father provides different bed times for the live-in and the children and for the moment of discovery. However, the chart fits the circs. to some extent and if it is accurate, Haleigh went north north east to a secluded location that is not a bluff at all but low ground. Lot of growth.

Saturn retrograde is definitely registered in criminal records because he is a malefic and retrograde and Mercury trined him in the past for the entry into the books. Here again, operating from seclusion and ambush in House 12.

There are misstatements in the account of the live-in.

ITA. I watched NG last night and the father stated that the children's bedtime was 8 pm- girlfriend says she put them to bed at 10 pm. :waitasec:

[momtective]

Are these the two SO's Momtective refers to in quote below asking us to take a look?



Thanks,
Soulscape

Yes, these are the two Soulscape. One is within 500 feet of Haleigh's home and the other within a half a mile.
Thanks to all of you for giving of your time and talent to help find Haleigh. God I pray she is still alive.

[salvarenga]

FYI - Just saw on another thread that there will be a press conference at 2pm today.

[Soulscape]

Here is some breaking information:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491485,00.html

~~ Girlfriend took polygraph; LE declines to say whether she passed it.

~~ LE believes Haleigh was abducted.

~~ Bloodhounds haven't turned up any clear evidence.

~~ Evidence has been collected from home; LE declined to describe it.

~~ Child's footprint found on path behind home; dad said Haleigh's shoes were in the house.

~~ 44 local SO's are being questioned by LE.

~~ Air conditioner repairman who was in the home on Monday 2/9 was questioned by LE and cleared of wrongdoing.


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I hold out little hope this child is alive. Charts indicate abduction rape and murder. I will post more astrological observations of why I believe this later today.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[beckaroozie]

Not at all confident of the time supplied by the live-in, particularly since the father provides different bed times for the live-in and the children and for the moment of discovery. However, the chart fits the circs. to some extent and if it is accurate, Haleigh went north north east to a secluded location that is not a bluff at all but low ground. Lot of growth.

Saturn retrograde is definitely registered in criminal records because he is a malefic and retrograde and Mercury trined him in the past for the entry into the books. Here again, operating from seclusion and ambush in House 12.

There are misstatements in the account of the live-in.

Thanks very much Tuba...do you think she's pretty close to the abduction site? Think she'll be found?

Thank you.

[Lovejac]

Here is some breaking information:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,491485,00.html

~~ Girlfriend took polygraph; LE declines to say whether she passed it.

~~ LE believes Haleigh was abducted.

~~ Bloodhounds haven't turned up any clear evidence.

~~ Evidence has been collected from home; LE declined to describe it.

~~ Child's footprint found on path behind home; dad said Haleigh's shoes were in the house.

~~ 44 local SO's are being questioned by LE.

~~ Air conditioner repairman who was in the home on Monday 2/9 was questioned by LE and cleared of wrongdoing.


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I hold out little hope this child is alive. Charts indicate abduction rape and murder. I will post more astrological observations of why I believe this later today.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Thank you for your reading, Soulscape.

This is truly heartbreaking, God Bless this family and Haleigh.

[yeknomaras]

*respectfully snipped*

I hold out little hope this child is alive. Charts indicate abduction rape and murder. I will post more astrological observations of why I believe this later today.

Thanks,
Soulscape

:frown: how incredibly sad.

from Caylee to Haleigh... that alone gave me goosebumps.

[salvarenga]

Not at all confident of the time supplied by the live-in, particularly since the father provides different bed times for the live-in and the children and for the moment of discovery. However, the chart fits the circs. to some extent and if it is accurate, Haleigh went north north east to a secluded location that is not a bluff at all but low ground. Lot of growth.

Saturn retrograde is definitely registered in criminal records because he is a malefic and retrograde and Mercury trined him in the past for the entry into the books. Here again, operating from seclusion and ambush in House 12.

There are misstatements in the account of the live-in.

Does anyone have the actual address of the home? I would like to look at the this area mentioned by Tuba on a topographical map.

[yeknomaras]

do the charts have any indication of when she will be found? I know you guys had some clues as to when Caylee would be found. can you see anything coming up soon?

[MysteryAddict]

The address-
202 Green Lane
Satsuma,Florida 32189

[wicket]

Sorry, not astrological but the gf said a cement brick was left to prop open the door. I think whoever took her did not want to make noise so he used the brick to keep the door wide open, grabbed the little girl, and, with the door open, just breezed right out. This way he didn't have to worry about noise, or hitting the door with her feet, etc. Just in and out quietly. :mad:

[Drivenon]

Not astrological either, but trying to learn more..
Does the chart show whether the Father has knowledge of a potential suspect? My experience in these cases tells me his statement indicated he had at least his own possible suspect pool, and if Im being honest, I am not buying the gf account of the baby getting up to use the bathroom- do you see that 3:00am timeframe she gave?

[disappear]

I just can't believe that there is another one. Another poor child. My heart just breaks because of this. I actually spoke with my husband about putting an alarm in the house and I think I might have convinced him now with this. I have 2 children and if anything at all were to ever happen to them...I can't even go there. God bless this baby and those that love her. I know that the charts do not show a good outcome, but I will still continue to pray for one. Bless all of you for your neverending work. *back to lurking*

[beckaroozie]

Does anyone have the actual address of the home? I would like to look at the this area mentioned by Tuba on a topographical map.

Salvarenga I think there's also a map of the trailer park community posted on the other Missing! thread. I was about to go look for it too.

[beckaroozie]

Thank you for your reading, Soulscape.

This is truly heartbreaking, God Bless this family and Haleigh.

Yes it is and Thank you very much Soulscape.

[Drivenon]

I just can't believe that there is another one. Another poor child. My heart just breaks because of this. I actually spoke with my husband about putting an alarm in the house and I think I might have convinced him now with this. I have 2 children and if anything at all were to ever happen to them...I can't even go there. God bless this baby and those that love her. I know that the charts do not show a good outcome, but I will still continue to pray for one. Bless all of you for your neverending work. *back to lurking*

Just want to throw out there that the FDLE was proprosing to cut Amber Alert programs and Sex Offender announcements due to budget issues- can you believe that? Sadly, another case I fear will end up proving that is a heinous idea.

[disappear]

Drive....WHAT???? Who do I call? Who do I write letters to? What can I do? That is the most ignorant move that anyone could ever make. Our children come FIRST before anything else...*giving myself a self-imposed time out before I say something I mean, but will get booted for*

[static]

If you can find his birth data we could compare charts, see if there are connections.

I can't help but think the perp would have to be familiar with layout of home to enter in the dark, go straight to bedroom and snatch little girl, be in & out in less than a minute.

I still need to review subsequent charts to get a better handle on this.

Thanks,
Soulscape

I am still learning but with the sun, jupiter and mars and neptune transiting the eleventh house, does that possibly indicate this was someone the father considered a friend>?

[disappear]

Just want to throw out there that the FDLE was proprosing to cut Amber Alert programs and Sex Offender announcements due to budget issues- can you believe that? Sadly, another case I fear will end up proving that is a heinous idea.

Aha! Found the link http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3181534#post3181534 I will do this. Hope others will do or have done this already.

[Virtual Truth]

If you can find his birth data we could compare charts, see if there are connections.

I can't help but think the perp would have to be familiar with layout of home to enter in the dark, go straight to bedroom and snatch little girl, be in & out in less than a minute.

I still need to review subsequent charts to get a better handle on this.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Soulscape,
I can't shake a feeling that the perp was "inside" the house when GF went to bathroom. Do you see anything in charts to suggest she knows this man? Was maybe entertaining him, and came back to find he was gone with Haleigh? I have no special powers... just a gut-level feeling about this. JMO

[Virtual Truth]

Thank you Lovejac and Sweetmop; I appreciate your kind words for me. I just pray that Haleigh is safe and insulated by God's love. His wrath will surely fall hard on whomever is responsible for harm coming to this child!

[belleyes]

Soulscape,
I can't shake a feeling that the perp was "inside" the house when GF went to bathroom. Do you see anything in charts to suggest she knows this man? Was maybe entertaining him, and came back to find he was gone with Haleigh? I have no special powers... just a gut-level feeling about this. JMO



ITA: I was actually scanning this thread to find evidence to support my "gut feeling". I thought maybe it had already been addressed. I guess not. ( I found it odd that dad was so angry at GF and then she moved out. IE: "entertaining" dad's friend while dad's at work) JMO

[Angel Who Cares]

George Anthony is with the family of Haleigh they just showed him there (on HLN) to offer them support! I'm glad he's putting his focus somewhere to help others it will help him heal! He knows what they are going through regardless if it was Casey that took Caylee or not. He understands thier grief!

[disappear]

Have you seen this? Apparently this is not the first time Haleigh has "wondered off" she allegedly wound up face down in a canal and the child had to be revived. Here is the link to video: http://www.fox30online.com/mediacenter/local.aspx and then click on "Haleigh Missing Before".
just wondering if the charts point to this being accurate information. Thanks!

[Lovejac]

George Anthony is with the family of Haleigh they just showed him there (on HLN) to offer them support! I'm glad he's putting his focus somewhere to help others it will help him heal! He knows what they are going through regardless if it was Casey that took Caylee or not. He understands thier grief!

Angel, thank you soooo much for posting this! This actually gives me so much hope for George's healing! That he is using his sorry and pain in such a good way!

I pray his support gives this man some sort of peace. Way to go, George, God will bless you for your kindness and caring.:blowkiss:

Also, there are conflicting reports about WHO got up to use the bathroom, some say Haliegh, some say the girlfriend. Does anyone have any confirmation??:waitasec:

[Lovejac]

ITA: I was actually scanning this thread to find evidence to support my "gut feeling". I thought maybe it had already been addressed. I guess not. ( I found it odd that dad was so angry at GF and then she moved out. IE: "entertaining" dad's friend while dad's at work) JMO

Wow, I hadn't heard that the girlfriend has moved out , interesting.

To add to your thought about someone being in the home already, or the other post about the person being a 'friend' or someone the father knew. While watching NG last night, they were playing the 911 call and I heard the father say something about *if I find who took her, I'll kill them* (paraphrasing here) THAT made me wonder if he had a hunch about who did this.

Thoughts??

[Drivenon]

ITA: I was actually scanning this thread to find evidence to support my "gut feeling". I thought maybe it had already been addressed. I guess not. ( I found it odd that dad was so angry at GF and then she moved out. IE: "entertaining" dad's friend while dad's at work) JMO

Did I miss a link about the GF moving out or is that a rumor?

[Drivenon]

Have you seen this? Apparently this is not the first time Haleigh has "wondered off" she allegedly wound up face down in a canal and the child had to be revived. Here is the link to video: http://www.fox30online.com/mediacenter/local.aspx and then click on "Haleigh Missing Before".
just wondering if the charts point to this being accurate information. Thanks!

Just a quick note to clarify- that was an allegation by the mother, that was never substantiated at a time when they were in a custody battle. We simply cant know if that is true, imo..

[Lovejac]

Interesting article!

Is it normal practice to give someone 2 polygraphs?

I mean, if you pass the first one, should there be a need for a second one?

Check this out and tell me what you think.

http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-12/story/girlfriend_explains_more_of_what_she_knows_about_m issing_haleigh

[Angel Who Cares]

Did I miss a link about the GF moving out or is that a rumor?

What I heard from reports from media & HLN is she went to stay with her parents. I believe this was done because they her & the father had to stay elsewhere, due to the trailer is considered a crime scene for the time being, until LE are done checking it over for evidence etc.

Your Welcome Lovejac!
I just added an article & video about George being there. ITA This will help him out a lot. I've been so worried about him but he knows what they are going through. Maybe Tim will reach out to him while they are there & offer George a place to volunteer with TES instead of KFN!

:praying: for Haleigh!

[hockeymom]

Soulscape,
I can't shake a feeling that the perp was "inside" the house when GF went to bathroom. Do you see anything in charts to suggest she knows this man? Was maybe entertaining him, and came back to find he was gone with Haleigh? I have no special powers... just a gut-level feeling about this. JMO

I've been thinking the same thing,or is it possable the GF,left the house and went "visiting"one of the neighbor men,and proped the door open so it wouldn't relock and someone observant went in and snatched the girl?
My gut feeling is the GF is hiding something.

[Lovejac]

What I heard from reports from media & HLN is she went to stay with her parents. I believe this was done because they her & the father had to stay elsewhere, due to the trailer is considered a crime scene for the time being, until LE are done checking it over for evidence etc.

Your Welcome Lovejac!
I just added an article & video about George being there. ITA This will help him out a lot. I've been so worried about him but he knows what they are going through. Maybe Tim will reach out to him while they are there & offer George a place to volunteer with TES instead of KFN!

:praying: for Haleigh!

What a wonderful idea, Angel!!! I would love to see that.

[Lovejac]

I've been thinking the same thing,or is it possable the GF,left the house and went "visiting"one of the neighbor men,and proped the door open so it wouldn't relock and someone observant went in and snatched the girl?
My gut feeling is the GF is hiding something.

:eek: and double :eek::eek:

[Drivenon]

Am I the only one troubled this girl is a minor and living with a 24 year old?

That aside, legally, they need her parents consent to give a polly unless she waives her right..

If they are giving 2, they may have found her deceptive on a question or 2, and told her that, or they want to expand the line of questioning. It is very unusual to get someone to take 2 thought, maybe that is a good sign.

Ok, I dont really believe that, just trying to be accurate. I have the distinct notion this girl is in WAY over her head and this baby was targeted; the ole dad works nights-

One thing I will say, I am astounded how many SO's there are.

[Soulscape]

I've been thinking the same thing,or is it possable the GF,left the house and went "visiting"one of the neighbor men,and proped the door open so it wouldn't relock and someone observant went in and snatched the girl?
My gut feeling is the GF is hiding something.


The only possible way we can gain insight into GF is to get her birth data: date, city or town, state.

IMO, the GF was not entertaining/ visiting a neighbor man. However, her chart would give indications if she is a liar, promiscuous, etc.

I really hope someone can track down her birth data for us.

That notwithstanding, I do not believe she hurt Haleigh nor do I believe she neglected her.

Somebody had Haleigh's number and that somebody is a POS who likely planned in advance.

Maybe dad knows / has hunch who it could be, but more likely not, because if he did, he probably would have already confronted the POS and taken him out.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[Tuba]

I have no confidence in the times provided us, certainly not as to minutes on the clock accuracy. This is a chart for Satsuma's Moon Rise. You will immediately see that trouble has already come to this small property.

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/MoonRiseFeb9006.jpg

[Lovejac]

Am I the only one troubled this girl is a minor and living with a 24 year old?

That aside, legally, they need her parents consent to give a polly unless she waives her right..

If they are giving 2, they may have found her deceptive on a question or 2, and told her that, or they want to expand the line of questioning. It is very unusual to get someone to take 2 thought, maybe that is a good sign.

Ok, I dont really believe that, just trying to be accurate. I have the distinct notion this girl is in WAY over her head and this baby was targeted; the ole dad works nights-

One thing I will say, I am astounded how many SO's there are.

I know!! 44 to be exact! Is that mobile home park a half-way neighborhood for SO's, or what :eek:

[Lovejac]

I have no confidence in the times provided us, certainly not as to minutes on the clock accuracy. This is a chart for Satsuma's Moon Rise. You will immediately see that trouble has already come to this small property.

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/MoonRiseFeb9006.jpg

Tuba, talk to me about this. I notice this chart has a 2nd mention of a child care person, which makes me think of the GF.

I'm also reading that little Hayleigh is already gone from this earth.

Am I reading this right?

[Angel Who Cares]

Haleigh's little brother Ron JR. will turn 4 on Sunday FOX News Live just reported. His birthday is Feb. 15th born then Feb. 15th 2005!

[ROBLYN]

Drive....WHAT???? Who do I call? Who do I write letters to? What can I do? That is the most ignorant move that anyone could ever make. Our children come FIRST before anything else...*giving myself a self-imposed time out before I say something I mean, but will get booted for*

Please forgive me if already addressed, just catching up with astro's today.

The main forum page has a link that you can contact the new Admin. Marc Klass is championing(word ?) for the cause to protect our children. Please check it out and vote. IIRC it is a .gov site.


My heart is soo sick for this baby.

[Tuba]

Yes, in both the Moon Rise chart for the community and the chart for the time given by Mistie, Last Seen, the caretaker is not adequate to the job. She appears sincere in her tearful statement on t.v. but the child care at this trailer was deplorable. This starts from the chart when you look at the bedtime horoscope: erratic, unreliable, abrupt and unpredictable Uranus in the House of Caretaking opposite Saturn r. Look at the tumult and upset in the home with Mars there.

The Moon Rise chart has a full house in caretaking but look at Pluto in H. 5. Someone important is missing! That is always the case where you find Pluto. Of course, the father of the child is working nights, so he is automatically missing. But Venus is square Pluto. She is in a bad place, House 8, and missing from the child House 5.

[beckaroozie]

Oh my goodness....so maybe the 17 yo was out of it and went to bed not realizing that the child was missing? Or perhaps she went missing earlier than 6:30 pm and Misty was afraid to say something because she knew it was her fault for not watching Haleigh closer and was afraid of the father maybe? That makes a HECK OF A LOT more sense than the varying stories. And then she staged the open back door thing? That's why she was up when the father got home!

[Soulscape]

Oh my goodness....so maybe the 17 yo was out of it and went to bed not realizing that the child was missing? Or perhaps she went missing earlier than 6:30 pm and Misty was afraid to say something because she knew it was her fault for not watching Haleigh closer and was afraid of the father maybe? That makes a HECK OF A LOT more sense than the varying stories. And then she staged the open back door thing? That's why she was up when the father got home!


It is just as likely the 17 year old was simply inadequate as a caretaker as Tuba points out. Think about it. A 17 y.o. is a child herself. Think about what we already know about Misty:

She is abused. Physically, definitely. Verbally/emotionally, absolutely. Sexually, probably. We know this because her mother filed in her behalf against a BF who was repeatedly abusing her. This is a fact. Then she ups and meets Ronald, age 25, and shacks up with him & his two young kids. We know from the 911 tapes, Ronald gets very verbally ugly when angry. In fact, Ronald called her a dumb b&tch girlfriend for losing his child. He's probably called her worse, but we don't know that as a fact.

Misty is a 17 y.o. girl-child-victim.

Now maybe she put Haleigh to bed at 8:00 or 8:30, maybe 10:00 pm. Maybe she smoked something and got wasted, maybe not. Maybe she was exhausted from doing the laundry and trying to keep the house nice for Ronald while minding the children and after she put them to bed, fell into a dead sleep herself --- and a freight train going through the house wouldn't have woken her up.

Something happened to Haleigh between approx. 10 pm and 3:00 am, and it may have been partially due to Misty's inadequacy as a caretaker. The chart certainly indicates as much.

What I am taking issue with is blaming this girl-child for whatever happened to Haleigh. If she fell asleep and didn't hear anything, that is tragic but it doesn't mean she is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[beckaroozie]

Soulscape I agree with you that Misty shouldn't be blamed, and she is most likely a victim herself. I wasn't passing blame to her.

What I was saying is that because of her inattention (which she shouldn't have been responsible for anyway!) to the children earlier (Tuba's chart was for moon rise 6:32 pm on the 9th and says something has already happened?), perhaps the perp snatched Haleigh earlier and Misty freaked out and didn't know what to do...she was afraid to call Ronald, and afraid to call the police because he'd call her a BOagirlfriend or worse! So instead, she sat for a while thinking and decided to open the back door and put a brick there and wait for Ronald to get home. He wouldn't fault her if Haleigh was snatched in the middle of the night from the trailer while she was sleeping.

It's all over the charts that the perp was 'waiting in ambush' for Haleigh. That is NOT Misty's fault at all -- however it happened. And from reading about her life, I also don't blame her for being afraid of Ronald.

Just to clarify.

[aksleuth]

I have no confidence in the times provided us, certainly not as to minutes on the clock accuracy. This is a chart for Satsuma's Moon Rise. You will immediately see that trouble has already come to this small property.

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/MoonRiseFeb9006.jpg


I'm wondering if this is why George Anthony told everyone to be kind to this family and not throw suspicions all over the place. At first I thought he was saying that because of his own family's experience, now I'm wondering if it's because this case is questionable, to say the least.

I have LOTS of questions. Talk about my hinky meter going off like crazy.

1) A 3-year-old and a 17-year-old were sleeping in the same bedroom as Haleigh.

WHAT???? And no one heard the child being taken?

2) They were in a mobile home with the back door found open!

How is that possible? No one heard a thing? In a mobile home? Those things are noisy, and they shake with the slightest movement, no matter how secure they are. You can't sneak through one without making some sort of noise. You can even hear the neighbors walking in theirs! Back doors in most mobile homes open OUT, not IN like in houses. Now if she was doing laundry, the child could have been taken then because the noise and vibrations from the machines could have obscured any other noises in the place. But the teen says she went to bed and the girl was still there. I wonder? The spin cycle of a washing machine has an earthquake-like effect in a mobile home. :eek:

3) This little girl was put to bed wearing a shirt and underwear? With others sleeping in the same room! So this means she was taken with nothing on her bottom but underwear?

Okay, so here we have a child abducted from a bedroom with two others sleeping in there, and no one heard anything - in a mobile home!! Maybe the 17-year-old was actually awakened by a noise but doesn't realize it (her trip to the bathroom).

Even Elizabeth Smart's sister heard and saw the kidnapper. So did Polly Klaas's friends. I don't know.

All I know is I HEAR everything that goes on in my house during the night. I hear when my cat coughs, or the wind knocks branches against house, and when my grandfather decided he was going out for a walk at 3 am. I even hear noises outside and away from my property. When my kids were little, my ears worked overtime. You could say I'm the nightwatchman of the neighborhood.

Of course this was a 17-year-old who obviously hasn't mastered her "mothering radar" and probably sleeps as soundly as most teens. Never did like inexperienced teens taking care of kids.

Criminals have to be mighty daring to break into a house when the family is there to snatch someone.

Thanks for the chart, Tuba. It gives me lots more questions. This is not good. The father's 911 call was shocking!

[aksleuth]

Haleigh Cummings, age 5, was last seen asleep in her bed by her dad's 17 year old girlfriend Misty Croslin at approx. 10:00 pm on Monday 2/9/09.

Charts here:

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/HaleighCummingsNATALSunrise.gif

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/HaleighCummingsLASTSEEN.gif

There are several things that strike me.

1. CHIRON (hurt, damage) is partile conjunct SUN in critical degree (21 Fixed) and both conjunct NEPTUNE (disappearance) in the 5th House of Children.

2. MOON separates from opposition to CHIRON/SUN/NEPTUNE conjunction across the 5/11 axis. This could suggest the danger comes from friend of the family (11th House of Friends). Because MOON is Void of Course and separating from the opposition, it's too late to stop whatever is in process of happening. If MOON could function despite being VOC, she would trine PLUTO, natural significator of kidnappers (along with NEPTUNE) in 4 degrees 9 minutes.

3. VENUS Lord 1 (Haleigh) is poorly placed in the radix 6th House close enough to 7th House cusp to indicate she is about to have a change in circumstances (changing houses). VENUS is afflicted by being in Aries, sign of her detriment, sextile to MARS (violence/rapist/murderer), square PLUTO (violence, kidnapping, abuse) and contraparallel URANUS (sudden change/ upheaval).

4. VENUS (Haleigh) is quindecile (165 degrees) SATURN, natural significator of Death, suggesting highly critical and unstable circumstances (remember SATURN is exactly opposed URANUS of instability).

5. I note that CHIRON/SUN/NEPTUNE conjunction is opposite Haleigh's natal SUN at 24 Leo and is partile opposed Part of Sonia* in Haleigh's natal Sunrise chart. (The Part of Sonia placement is very speculative because I don't have Haleigh's place of birth or time of birth. Nonetheless, I found this partile opposition very *coincidental* to say the least!)

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*Part of Sonia has been found prominent in death charts according to research done by Astrologer Lynn Koiner. I have been experimenting with it.
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6. Event chart ASCENDANT 11 Libra is partile trine Haleigh's natal NEPTUNE 11 Aquarius (disappearance).

7. Event chart BLACK MOON LILITH, often active in catastrophes/tragedies/fatalities, at 20 Capricorn is in same degree as Event chart SATURN opposite URANUS.

8. Event chart NODES at 9 Aquarius/Leo are in critical degree (9 Fixed) and in same degree as Haleigh's natal SATURN (9 Cancer).

9. Haleigh's natal SUN (24 Leo) is in Fateful Degree (same degree as the NODES) in her natal chart (NODES at 24 Taurus/Scorpio). According to Ivy Goldstein-Jacobson, this always connotes a catastrophe, tragedy or fatality, both in natal as well as horary charts.


Unfortunately, this preliminary evaluation points to abduction by a pedophile. I will have to study the other charts to see if they confirm.

Thanks,
Soulscape


This is not good and it's terrifying. Thanks, Soulscape.

[Lovejac]

Just learned something interesting on Haleigh's thread.

Dogs tracked her scent to a dock nearby.

[housemouse]

Things are hectic here, but will try to get a look at the "last seen" chart tomorrow, as well as the b-day chart.

I almost hate to do these now...

[Soulscape]

Charts can be complicated, contrary and hard to read. Sometimes less is more.

By focusing on just two aspect patterns -- the inconjunct (150 degrees) and the quindecile (165 degrees) I found a wealth of information revealed in the 911 Call chart (3:27 am EST, 2/10/09).

See chart here:
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/911Call150-165.gif

You will see three heavy black aspect lines with a 5 symbol for the quindecile and five lighter aspect lines with the inconjunct symbol.

Both inconjuncts and quindeciles are high stress aspects, the inconjuncts more disjunctive (sometimes literally a *disconnect*) and the quindecile more manic/ obsessive /controlling /compulsive (think: "Pluto on speed.") Inconjuncts are often active in death charts. I'm experimenting with the quindecile which seems active, too. Look at the grid and follow along:

SUN (Haleigh) inconjunct SATURN (death)

MOON (the action) inconjunct MARS (violence/rape/murder, etc.) Also notice the MOON is beseiged (trapped) between malefic SOUTH NODE and SATURN. This is a very bad placement for MOON. I've ignored CERES here because we do not consider CERES in beseigement.

VENUS (Haleigh) quindecile SATURN (death). Very, very bad marker.

JUPITER (Ronald) inconjunct CERES (Misty the caretaker/babysitter). He is furious with her for *letting* his daughter get stolen.

SATURN (death) inconjunct CHIRON exact conjunct SUN conjunct NEPTUNE (damage/hurt/disappearance of Haleigh resulting in death)

URANUS quindecile Midheaven (something sudden, shocking, uncontrollable hurled into light)

NEPTUNE quindecile malefic SOUTH NODE (death marker)

NEPTUNE quindecile VERTEX (death marker)

CERES (Misty as caretaker/babysitter) inconjunct NORTH NODE (fated and unwanted encounter with public)


This chart is sickening and heartbreaking.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[Lovejac]

Things are hectic here, but will try to get a look at the "last seen" chart tomorrow, as well as the b-day chart.

I almost hate to do these now...

I can't blame you , housemouse, especially with you tending to the 'What's Ahead for the USA' thread.

There seems to be no shortage of troubling news.

[ROBLYN]

It is just as likely the 17 year old was simply inadequate as a caretaker as Tuba points out. Think about it. A 17 y.o. is a child herself. Think about what we already know about Misty:

She is abused. Physically, definitely. Verbally/emotionally, absolutely. Sexually, probably. We know this because her mother filed in her behalf against a BF who was repeatedly abusing her. This is a fact. Then she ups and meets Ronald, age 25, and shacks up with him & his two young kids. We know from the 911 tapes, Ronald gets very verbally ugly when angry. In fact, Ronald called her a dumb b&tch girlfriend for losing his child. He's probably called her worse, but we don't know that as a fact.

Misty is a 17 y.o. girl-child-victim.

Now maybe she put Haleigh to bed at 8:00 or 8:30, maybe 10:00 pm. Maybe she smoked something and got wasted, maybe not. Maybe she was exhausted from doing the laundry and trying to keep the house nice for Ronald while minding the children and after she put them to bed, fell into a dead sleep herself --- and a freight train going through the house wouldn't have woken her up.

Something happened to Haleigh between approx. 10 pm and 3:00 am, and it may have been partially due to Misty's inadequacy as a caretaker. The chart certainly indicates as much.

What I am taking issue with is blaming this girl-child for whatever happened to Haleigh. If she fell asleep and didn't hear anything, that is tragic but it doesn't mean she is responsible for Haleigh's disappearance.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Thank you Soulscape ETA: Looking at your chart now Soulscrape, this sounds like a heartbreaking ending, and what i have been feeling since yesterday. Will continue to pray that they find her soon. This is Sickening...What these monsters continue do to our children.(all)

[aksleuth]

This does not look good at all. Maybe I'm just really, really emotional after Caylee's tragedy, but this case already has me in tears. It feels so dire.

The girl who called 911 sounded like an inexperienced child herself and she was watching two very young children.

This is not good. Soulscape's latest chart is downright chilling.

Thanks.

[beckaroozie]

It certainly is AKSleuth....terribly tragic and heartbreaking. Thank you for the reading Soul...it's very telling.

[Lovejac]

Soulscape, I just got that pit in my stomach like I did when you read the 3rd 911 call from Cindy many months ago. I am so saddened by this. Especially knowing how accurate your chart for Caylee was.

[crocus]

This is the first time I have looked into the Forensic Astrology thread. My heart is heavy reading here, and I pray that this sweet baby didn't suffer. Migod....where evil lurks. In our own backyards.

[Scorpian]

Thanks for the Forensic Astrology thread, I've had my feelings about this family and your charts help me realize perhaps my intuition/gut/feelings on this subject (and others) may be something to listen to a little closer.

[aksleuth]

Originally Posted by Virtual Truth
I can't shake a feeling that the perp was "inside" the house when GF went to bathroom. Do you see anything in charts to suggest she knows this man? Was maybe entertaining him, and came back to find he was gone with Haleigh? I have no special powers... just a gut-level feeling about this. JMO

ITA: I was actually scanning this thread to find evidence to support my "gut feeling". I thought maybe it had already been addressed. I guess not. ( I found it odd that dad was so angry at GF and then she moved out. IE: "entertaining" dad's friend while dad's at work) JMO


I have the same gut feeling. Or, if it's not exactly that, it's close.

[Jersey*Girl]

The only possible way we can gain insight into GF is to get her birth data: date, city or town, state.

IMO, the GF was not entertaining/ visiting a neighbor man. However, her chart would give indications if she is a liar, promiscuous, etc.

I really hope someone can track down her birth data for us.

That notwithstanding, I do not believe she hurt Haleigh nor do I believe she neglected her.

Somebody had Haleigh's number and that somebody is a POS who likely planned in advance.

Maybe dad knows / has hunch who it could be, but more likely not, because if he did, he probably would have already confronted the POS and taken him out.

Thanks,
Soulscape

I have no confidence in the times provided us, certainly not as to minutes on the clock accuracy. This is a chart for Satsuma's Moon Rise. You will immediately see that trouble has already come to this small property.

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/MoonRiseFeb9006.jpg

Soulscape, Tuba, all of the rest of you super Astro Sleuths! - Please help. I found the birth mother's MySpace a/c and I'm trying to duplicate everything. I don't know how to "mirror", as SeriouslySearching suggested to me, so I'm copying everything based on the pages individually. I'm hoping this may be able to help you all. Please see my quote below that I placed on the "Missing thread for Haleigh". Thanks so very much. Jersey!

SS - I'm not sure where to put this, or if it's even been added to these threads yet. For fear that it will take a long time to go through them all, I'm posting this here. This is Haleigh's birth mom's MySpace a/c. I'm trying to copy everything but am afraid it will go private soon. Not even sure if it can be useful, but I'd rather err on the side of caution and post "just in case".

Here's the link:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=395122639

[Jersey*Girl]

Um, wow! I found a MySpace a/c for the girlfriend...notice her age is 16 and last login is 2/12 (today). This is her, correct?

Here's the link and please note that it's set to private:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=52913603

[Soulscape]

Um, wow! I found a MySpace a/c for the girlfriend...notice her age is 16 and last login is 2/12 (today). This is her, correct?

Here's the link and please note that it's set to private:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=52913603


Looks like her & Ronald... maybe someone can attempt to become her friend & if successful fill us in?

Thanks Jersey Girl.

~~Soulscape

[aksleuth]

I just added an article & video about George being there. ITA This will help him out a lot. I've been so worried about him but he knows what they are going through. Maybe Tim will reach out to him while they are there & offer George a place to volunteer with TES instead of KFN!

:praying: for Haleigh!

My thoughts exactly. I do wish George would hook up with Tim. Even if he's not up to rigorous searching (knee problems), he could work the tables at searches, and help with the mapping, or other types of organization.

I'm praying for GA, too. Haleigh and GA need our prayers.

[FifthEssence]

OK...just watching Greta....Misty/girlfriend said at about 5pm the AC person, her brother and a few of his friends came over.
Greta asked about how long they were there..when did they leave and Misty said they left about 5:30 p.m.

[Jersey*Girl]

Please see the following link from Baker County Florida Public Records:http://208.75.175.18/oncoreweb/showdetails.aspx?id=210959&rn=0&pi=0&ref=search

Document Type: (ORD) ORDER
Modified Date: 3/23/2006 4:07:24 PM
Record Date : 3/23/2006 3:28:29 PM
Event Date : Not Available
Grantor: SHEFFIED CRYSTAL D (3/23/2006 4:07:24 PM)

Grantee: CUMMINGS RONALD L (3/23/2006 4:07:24 PM)

Book Type: OR
Book / Page: 0 / 0
# of Pages: 1
Consideration: 0.00
Legal
Legal:
Address:
Case Number: 02-2006-DR-115

Please see link which shows this was dismissed: http://208.75.175.18/oncoreweb/ImageBrowser/image.aspx?ImageId=394032&jpg=-1

[aksleuth]

Please forgive me if already addressed, just catching up with astro's today.

The main forum page has a link that you can contact the new Admin. Marc Klass is championing(word ?) for the cause to protect our children. Please check it out and vote. IIRC it is a .gov site.


My heart is soo sick for this baby.


I've been to the site, I've looked all over, but I don't see what they are talking about. Didn't see any place or anything to vote on.

[KAITLAND]

Very ominous charts. In Tuba's moonrise chart, the angles (action) fall very tightly across Haleigh's Asc/Desc and MC/IC - within a couple of degrees.

Her natal Venus/Sun/Jupiter in Leo form a T-square to N. Node in Taurus and S. Node in Scorpio.

The moonrise charts transforms this already heavily challenged T-sq configuration into fixed grand cross with it's Neptune in Aquarius on the 7th house cusp and her malefic south node in Scorpio falls on the nadir.

Thanks Fifth for the info from GVS about visitors in the house. I have wondered if gf had friends over/other distractions prior to bedtime. Will run a chart for 5-5:30pm, but this is awfully close in time to the moonrise chart.

Some additional comments:
The gf is a teenager, and they do sleep very, very soundly. I used to babysit for my cousins when I was around 14 yrs old (yes,that's very young, but it was a completely different world in the 60's and we were able to sleep with windows open, and all neighbors KNEW each other for YEARS!). anyway...I was sleep on the sofa and parents came home, rang doorbell, banged very loudly on the door for several minutes and I did not wake up at all. They had to leave to go use a payphone (no cell phones back then) to CALL ME and the phone woke me up. However, if the BABY even whimpered, I would immediately wake up. So, gf may not have heard footsteps. ... And, if she had imbibed or indulged something, she would have slept more soundly. Any known history of drugs with this family?

Backdoor being propped open does make some sense, for an easy escape abd no banging sound. But, how did the DEADBOLT get unlocked? This is a key question, literally. GF did dnot say "I looked the door", she said "the door is always locked", big difference. Where was the key kept? In plain sight? Who knew where it was? Keys are ruled by Mercury; in Soulscape's event chart, Merc is in Capricorn in the 4th house (the home).

Do not like GF changing story. Yet, she is young and frightened. But I think she is holding something back...either feeling guilty or afraid. She keeps her eyes closed when she first describing what happened (reminded me of S. Smith). And I am still confused as to where Haleigh was actually sleeping. Was she in a separate bed in the same bedroom with GF and little brother? Or was she in her own bed in a different room. Big difference here too.

I think this perpetrator either knew, or had seen Haleigh before, probably on more than one occasion.

Was the front door locked?

[Capri]

Kaitland- You asked about known history of drugs with this family. Yes, there is (father). It's documented in the court cases. Mostly back in 2002 & 2004. Link:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3303300&postcount=200

[aksleuth]

I watched one of the news clips where the GF and the dad were hugging, where she told the newsman she put the kids to bed at 8pm - then she looked at the dad with a look....... Like she wasn't telling the truth but telling what he wanted to hear. It was the kind of look a naughty child would give after doing something wrong.

There's a report of her two young cousins being at the house. Then there was the A/C guy, and now her brother and his friends. Seems like a lot of traffic for the GF to pay attention to, plus the little children. That's if all the visiting reports are accurate. Could she have misplaced the child earlier and not known what to do about it?

I also babysit as a teen in the 1960s :eek: but I stayed with my brother who was 10 years younger, and then later with lil bro and my sister who was born when I was 16. I was well-schooled in child care and knew I would have been killed if anything went wrong on my account. I was responsible and things were different, and I wasn't doing the drug thing or the sex thing. Rather dull, I'd say. At 18 or 19, I sat for others, and for my friends who began having kids long before I did.

I just think the GF isn't responsible enough, nor wise enough to take care of children so young. She seems extremely childlike to me, a child herself, who has found her way into a dangerous adult world. So the assumptions that negligence of some sort paved the way for the abduction could very possibly be correct. Someone could have left the door unlocked while all those people were going in and out, or someone else came in while all the people were otherwise occupied with chatting and whatnot. By the time the child was noticed missing, the GF didn't think to call the police or was too afraid of the consequences, or needed time to cook up an alibi.

[Lovejac]

I watched one of the news clips where the GF and the dad were hugging, where she told the newsman she put the kids to bed at 8pm - then she looked at the dad with a look....... Like she wasn't telling the truth but telling what he wanted to hear. It was the kind of look a naughty child would give after doing something wrong.

There's a report of her two young cousins being at the house. Then there was the A/C guy, and now her brother and his friends. Seems like a lot of traffic for the GF to pay attention to, plus the little children. That's if all the visiting reports are accurate. Could she have misplaced the child earlier and not known what to do about it?

I also babysit as a teen in the 1960s :eek: but I stayed with my brother who was 10 years younger, and then later with lil bro and my sister who was born when I was 16. I was well-schooled in child care and knew I would have been killed if anything went wrong on my account. I was responsible and things were different, and I wasn't doing the drug thing or the sex thing. Rather dull, I'd say. At 18 or 19, I sat for others, and for my friends who began having kids long before I did.

I just think the GF isn't responsible enough, nor wise enough to take care of children so young. She seems extremely childlike to me, a child herself, who has found her way into a dangerous adult world. So the assumptions that negligence of some sort paved the way for the abduction could very possibly be correct. Someone could have left the door unlocked while all those people were going in and out, or someone else came in while all the people were otherwise occupied with chatting and whatnot. By the time the child was noticed missing, the GF didn't think to call the police or was too afraid of the consequences, or needed time to cook up an alibi.


I wish I could find the GF date of birth!!! I looked for a couple of hours yesterday with no luck.

I feel her chart would reveal a wealth of info. Maybe I can try again tomorrow and ask beckaroosie to help, that girl is a super sleuther!!!

[MNlady]

The father said he locked the "deadbolt" on the back door before he went to work. A deadbolt is a lever type thing that turns on the inside of the door.
In my mobile home I never use the key to lock the door, I always turn the deadbolt to lock it. It's safer and you never lock yourself out accidentally.

I believe one of the "visitors" who were there between 5:00 and 5:30 went down the hall to the bathroom while he was there and flipped the deadbolt open. . . so he could come back later and be able to get in. Very easy to do and very easy for someone NOT to notice. Maybe he was coming back because he had ideas to get with Misti but Haleigh was available so he grabbed her instead. . .or he came specifically for Haleigh. As soon as I saw that her brother and his friends came over, I thought "Oh there it is. . "

[aksleuth]

Good point about the deadbolt, MNlady. Turning the lock while the door is open would certainly block it from closing.

I did several searches for the GF's birth info. Nothing yet. It's a bit more difficult to find that type of fact for underage people because they rarely have public records on file. I'll keep looking.


Misty's MySpace says she's a Gemini...which would fit July...but the 1986 doesn't fit.

Depending on her July birthdate, she'd be Gemini until about July 15th, only if she uses Vedic Astrology. In Western astrology, she'd be either Cancer or Leo (late July).

[KAITLAND]

I watched one of the news clips where the GF and the dad were hugging, where she told the newsman she put the kids to bed at 8pm - then she looked at the dad with a look....... Like she wasn't telling the truth but telling what he wanted to hear. It was the kind of look a naughty child would give after doing something wrong.

There's a report of her two young cousins being at the house. Then there was the A/C guy, and now her brother and his friends. Seems like a lot of traffic for the GF to pay attention to, plus the little children. That's if all the visiting reports are accurate. Could she have misplaced the child earlier and not known what to do about it?

I also babysit as a teen in the 1960s :eek: but I stayed with my brother who was 10 years younger, and then later with lil bro and my sister who was born when I was 16. I was well-schooled in child care and knew I would have been killed if anything went wrong on my account. I was responsible and things were different, and I wasn't doing the drug thing or the sex thing. Rather dull, I'd say. At 18 or 19, I sat for others, and for my friends who began having kids long before I did.

I just think the GF isn't responsible enough, nor wise enough to take care of children so young. She seems extremely childlike to me, a child herself, who has found her way into a dangerous adult world. So the assumptions that negligence of some sort paved the way for the abduction could very possibly be correct. Someone could have left the door unlocked while all those people were going in and out, or someone else came in while all the people were otherwise occupied with chatting and whatnot. By the time the child was noticed missing, the GF didn't think to call the police or was too afraid of the consequences, or needed time to cook up an alibi.

Bolded by me. Exactly aksleuth! We were NEVER allowed to have anyone in the house while we were babysitting, not even other girl friends. We were not even allowed to talk on the phone while the kids were awake. My entire family lived within the neighborhood (aunts, uncles, etc). My Mom would call to check on us about once an hour to make sure all was okay. Different time, time world.

[KAITLAND]

The father said he locked the "deadbolt" on the back door before he went to work. A deadbolt is a lever type thing that turns on the inside of the door.
In my mobile home I never use the key to lock the door, I always turn the deadbolt to lock it. It's safer and you never lock yourself out accidentally.

I believe one of the "visitors" who were there between 5:00 and 5:30 went down the hall to the bathroom while he was there and flipped the deadbolt open. . . so he could come back later and be able to get in. Very easy to do and very easy for someone NOT to notice. Maybe he was coming back because he had ideas to get with Misti but Haleigh was available so he grabbed her instead. . .or he came specifically for Haleigh. As soon as I saw that her brother and his friends came over, I thought "Oh there it is. . "

Bolded by me. I am having the same thoughts as you MNlady and aksleuth. Perhaps the A/C man went out the back door, and Misty did not remember to lock it?

I am working on a chart for the time the visitors were in the house. I'll post it tomorrow.

Oh please Lovejac - keep looking for gf's birthdate!

[KAITLAND]

Kaitland- You asked about known history of drugs with this family. Yes, there is (father). It's documented in the court cases. Mostly back in 2002 & 2004. Link:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3303300&postcount=200


Thank you for this info Capri. Even if the GF had not used anything, perhaps the people around her did...and can have a bearing on this case.

[aksleuth]

Bolded by me. Exactly aksleuth! We were NEVER allowed to have anyone in the house while we were babysitting, not even other girl friends. We were not even allowed to talk on the phone while the kids were awake. My entire family lived within the neighborhood (aunts, uncles, etc). My Mom would call to check on us about once an hour to make sure all was okay. Different time, time world.


Same here. No friends, no phone calls. TV was okay, but the kiddies came first. If there was a problem, call the neighbors, or call for help if my parents weren't near a phone.


Could little Haleigh have been chloroformed? An idea gotten from watching the Caylee coverage?


Listen to the different stories on this! The babysitter has no idea where she, herself, was sleeping! :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ullq0ApxKXg&feature=channel_page

Oh no! So many names in this case: Cummings, Sheffield, Griffith, Croslin......... I think I heard more. So unlike the As where everyone had similar names. :crazy:

[KAITLAND]

I must say that thought did cross my mind. And other cases that came to mind: Jessica Lundsfeld (sp?) - pedophiles nearby, and Elizabeth Smart who had workers in the house.

I think I heard on either NG or JVM that the A/C worker had been cleared.

Do we know anything else about the gf's brother and friends?

[KAITLAND]

Oh - is the deadbolt the kind that locks from the inside as well as the outside?

[Soulscape]

The father said he locked the "deadbolt" on the back door before he went to work. A deadbolt is a lever type thing that turns on the inside of the door.
In my mobile home I never use the key to lock the door, I always turn the deadbolt to lock it. It's safer and you never lock yourself out accidentally.

I believe one of the "visitors" who were there between 5:00 and 5:30 went down the hall to the bathroom while he was there and flipped the deadbolt open. . . so he could come back later and be able to get in. Very easy to do and very easy for someone NOT to notice. Maybe he was coming back because he had ideas to get with Misti but Haleigh was available so he grabbed her instead. . .or he came specifically for Haleigh. As soon as I saw that her brother and his friends came over, I thought "Oh there it is. . "

[/b]

Bolded by me. I am having the same thoughts as you MNlady and aksleuth. Perhaps the A/C man went out the back door, and Misty did not remember to lock it?

I am working on a chart for the time the visitors were in the house. I'll post it tomorrow.

Oh please Lovejac - keep looking for gf's birthdate!



The A/C man was cleared of wrong-doing but that still leaves the brother and his friends. MNLady, I agree with you "this could be it."

Kaitland, please post your chart for the visitation.

Lovejac and All, please continue trying to find Misty's birth date. Jersey Girl found her Myspace updated 2/12 and it says she's 16!

Thanks,
Soulscape

[beckaroozie]

If we could get our hands on a copy of that police report, I'm sure it would have her DOB on there! Fox News obtained a copy supposedly!

[beckaroozie]

MISTY'S MOTHER'S DOB - Lisa Croslin 09/10/1969 (if needed for research)

HALEIGH'S FATHER'S DOB - Ronald L. Cummings 10/29/1983

Wasn't sure if we had Ronald's DOB already or not. Verified with Flagler and Orange Clerk of Court Records and Free Birthday Database. I'm still trying to find Misty's.

[yeknomaras]

if anyone has access to the GF's myspace, check her comments for "happy birthday" wishes.

only thing i can think of.

[KAITLAND]

According to report on GVS, Misty had the A/C repairman, her brother and a "few of his friends" at the house between 5:00 - 5:30. This chart is set for 5:15p.m. on 2/19/09, Satsuma, FL.


Leo is on the Ascendant (assigned to the GF as “hostess” for want of better word) accompanied by rising moon in Leo (which is conjunct Haleigh’s natal Sun). Note that Leo is the natural ruler of children, and is the ruler of Haleigh’s natal sun. We find the Sun in Aquarius in the 7th house, conjunct Neptune and Chiron. The 7th house rules guests and Neptune rules kidnappers. Could it be the girlfriend knows the kidnapper?

The child is ruled by the Jupiter 5th house cusp and Venus in Aries in 9th house. Jupiter and the North node of fate are conjunct the 7th house cusp of visitors, along with Mars, ruler of Aries Venus (the child), showing Haleigh was present and in view of the guests.

It is my understanding that MC’s brother was there with his friends. Her brother is ruled by 3rd house cusp Libra. Venus (the child!) is in Aries, look again to its ruler Mars in the 6th house. This house also rules service workers (like our meter reader). Does the brother know the A/C man? This is a small town, so it is not inconceivable that they knew each other. At any rate, they are together during this “visit”.

Her brother’s friends would be represented by the ascendant in Leo, points us back to the Sun in Aquarius conjunct Neptune. There is some mystery here to be uncovered yet. There is also a possibility of drug activity.
The Aquarian 7th house is ruled by Uranus. It is also co-ruled by Saturn, placed in the 2nd house in tragic opposition to Uranus in Pisces in the 8th house of death. 8th house is natural ruler of Pluto, ruler of kidnappers. Pluto is found in the 5th house of the child, in Capricorn (Saturn’s sign) and is square Venus in Aries. The 4th house cusp (endings) is Pluto ruled Scorpio.

I do not think the assailant is unknown to this family. Not welcomed or assisted, but they have been in his presence before.

On the other hand, Venus the child is located in the 9th house – outdoors. Was she playing in the yard, unattended during this time? Was she visible to someone lurking and watching? With all the activity and confusion (Neptune) going on due to the presence of at least 4 or so visitors,
she might not have been missed.

As Tuba points out in the eerie moonrise chart (drawn up for about an hour later than the visitors) – the trouble has already started in this house. Soulscape’s chart for the last time seen was chilling in revealing the symbolism of death.

I do not think the assailant is unknown to this family.

We still have questions: How did the perpetrator get into the house? Front door? Back door? Is girl friend upset/guilty appearing because she maybe left a door unlocked?

I will have more to say on this chart, but the computer guy is coming within 30 minutes.

Soulscape and Tuba are the master’s at event readings here, but I wanted to post this chart as a possible glimpse into the hours before Haleigh went missing. Please feel free to comment!

(It would not let me post the chart! Will try again after computer whiz leaves)

[zelmajane]

James Lane DOB 12-13-1976
Walden Lane No DOB
Walden Parsons (same person?) No DOB
Glenn Smith DOB 11-23-1922
Hope Smith DOB 8-16-1926
G Franklin Smith No DOB (Could be same guy, or the son bc of the Franklin)


If y'all wonder how I come up with this stuff... I have a program I subscribed to a few years back. They're just increasing their "free" searches. Which you can do if you have money in the account (I have $8) :)

[Scanner]

First post and it just happens to be Friday the 13th!

I'm wondering about Jr. Surely LE have gleened info from him. His b-day is either tomorrow or Sunday. Is it possible to do a chart on him to see what it might reveal?

Hope I did this 'post' thingy rite!

Luv to all. My prayers to Buffalo (I'm across the pond, Niagara Falls).

[beckaroozie]

Welcome Scanner!! Thanks for the birthday info on Jr. How'd you find it? Good job! Now Misty is the missing link -- we need her DOB desperately!

[Soulscape]

His girlfriend, Misty Croslin, 17, says she tucked Hayleigh into her own bed at 8 o'clock.

But, a choked-up Croslin says, "I woke up (five hours later) and she was gone. The back door was wide open."

Cummings and Croslin insist the door had been locked but, reports CBS News correspondent Kelly Cobiella, investigators say they found no sign of forced entry. Croslin told a 911 dispatcher that the door, which was usually locked, had been propped open by a
brick.

Hayleigh's maternal grandmother suspects there's more to the story, Cobiella points out.

Asked if she thinks Croslin has anything to do with the girl's disappearance, Marie Griffs replied, "It's a possibility. She was there, that was her watch, Haleigh was in her care."

That was flatly denied by Cummings, who told media members, "She had nothing to do with this. I had nothing to do with this."

The child's father and his girlfriend have taken lie detector tests, Cobiella adds. Results haven't been released.

Croslin is disputing early reports that she was sleeping beside Haleigh when she vanished, as she initially told a local newspaper.

Croslin now insists she had been sleeping beside Haleigh's younger brother.

Investigators are calling the case an abduction.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/13/earlyshow/main4799710.shtml


================
(My bolding above)

OK, so Misty's story continues to flip-flop. Is it because she's brain-damaged from being smacked in the head and/or up against the wall one too many times by overly agitated BFs, or it is because she's a liar, or is it because she's a pothead who can't remember where she left her head if it wasn't attached to her shoulders --- or what?!

Chart would be revealing........ thanks to Everyone who is feverishly searching for it.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[LeLe1953]

You all do amazing work. I am blown away & wish I had that talent.

[Soulscape]

According to report on GVS, Misty had the A/C repairman, her brother and a "few of his friends" at the house between 5:00 - 5:30. This chart is set for 5:15p.m. on 2/19/09, Satsuma, FL.


Leo is on the Ascendant (assigned to the GF as “hostess” for want of better word) accompanied by rising moon in Leo (which is conjunct Haleigh’s natal Sun). Note that Leo is the natural ruler of children, and is the ruler of Haleigh’s natal sun. We find the Sun in Aquarius in the 7th house, conjunct Neptune and Chiron. The 7th house rules guests and Neptune rules kidnappers. Could it be the girlfriend knows the kidnapper?

The child is ruled by the Jupiter 5th house cusp and Venus in Aries in 9th house. Jupiter and the North node of fate are conjunct the 7th house cusp of visitors, along with Mars, ruler of Aries Venus (the child), showing Haleigh was present and in view of the guests.

It is my understanding that MC’s brother was there with his friends. Her brother is ruled by 3rd house cusp Libra. Venus (the child!) is in Aries, look again to its ruler Mars in the 6th house. This house also rules service workers (like our meter reader). Does the brother know the A/C man? This is a small town, so it is not inconceivable that they knew each other. At any rate, they are together during this “visit”.

Her brother’s friends would be represented by the ascendant in Leo, points us back to the Sun in Aquarius conjunct Neptune. There is some mystery here to be uncovered yet. There is also a possibility of drug activity.
The Aquarian 7th house is ruled by Uranus. It is also co-ruled by Saturn, placed in the 2nd house in tragic opposition to Uranus in Pisces in the 8th house of death. 8th house is natural ruler of Pluto, ruler of kidnappers. Pluto is found in the 5th house of the child, in Capricorn (Saturn’s sign) and is square Venus in Aries. The 4th house cusp (endings) is Pluto ruled Scorpio.

I do not think the assailant is unknown to this family. Not welcomed or assisted, but they have been in his presence before.

On the other hand, Venus the child is located in the 9th house – outdoors. Was she playing in the yard, unattended during this time? Was she visible to someone lurking and watching? With all the activity and confusion (Neptune) going on due to the presence of at least 4 or so visitors,
she might not have been missed.

As Tuba points out in the eerie moonrise chart (drawn up for about an hour later than the visitors) – the trouble has already started in this house. Soulscape’s chart for the last time seen was chilling in revealing the symbolism of death.

I do not think the assailant is unknown to this family.

We still have questions: How did the perpetrator get into the house? Front door? Back door? Is girl friend upset/guilty appearing because she maybe left a door unlocked?

I will have more to say on this chart, but the computer guy is coming within 30 minutes.

Soulscape and Tuba are the master’s at event readings here, but I wanted to post this chart as a possible glimpse into the hours before Haleigh went missing. Please feel free to comment!

(It would not let me post the chart! Will try again after computer whiz leaves)


Here is Kaitland's chart:

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/VisitorsinHouse020909.gif

BLACK MOON LILITH 4 Capricorn squares VENUS (Haleigh).

This was a most enlightening analysis, Kaitland.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[Angel Who Cares]

Welcome Scanner!! Thanks for the birthday info on Jr. How'd you find it? Good job! Now Misty is the missing link -- we need her DOB desperately!

beckaroozie!
Ron Jr's birthday Is Sunday Feb. 15, 2005. I gave it a few pages back it was on the news that his birthday is Sunday & that he'll be turning 4. I PM'd it to Tuba when I found it.
housemouse seen the post yesterday & was going to try & do a birthday chart for his today. I'm just catching up everywhere today. I woke up early this morning to the news about the plane crash early this morning it kept me awake for a bit. I ended up going back to sleep a few hrs ago....so sorry if this was pointed out by housemouse or anyone else!

Sorry everyone.....Note to myself wake up all the way before posting! LOL :crazy:

Single Post:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3300974&postcount=82

Welcome Scanner! :blowkiss: :wave:

[KAITLAND]

beckaroozie!
Ron Jr's birthday Is Sunday Feb. 15, 2004. I gave it a few pages back it was on the news that his birthday is Sunday & that he'll be turning 4. I PM'd it to Tuba when I found it.
housemouse seen the post yesterday & was going to try & do a birthday chart for his today. I'm just catching up everywhere today. I woke up early this morning to the news about the plane crash early this morning it kept me awake for a bit. I ended up going back to sleep a few hrs ago....so sorry if this was pointed out by housemouse or anyone else!

Single Post:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3300974&postcount=82

Welcome Scanner! :blowkiss: :wave:

Angel, can you clarify b'date. If Ron, Jr. is turning 4 on Sunday, wouldn't the year of birth be 2005?

[beckaroozie]

beckaroozie!
Ron Jr's birthday Is Sunday Feb. 15, 2004. I gave it a few pages back it was on the news that his birthday is Sunday & that he'll be turning 4. I PM'd it to Tuba when I found it.
housemouse seen the post yesterday & was going to try & do a birthday chart for his today. I'm just catching up everywhere today. I woke up early this morning to the news about the plane crash early this morning it kept me awake for a bit. I ended up going back to sleep a few hrs ago....so sorry if this was pointed out by housemouse or anyone else!

Single Post:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3300974&postcount=82

Welcome Scanner! :blowkiss: :wave:


Great job Angel!! :)

[KAITLAND]

I'm trying to post this...let's see if it works

http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/kaitland8/RonJrnatal2-15-05.jpg

[KAITLAND]

:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
Yipee Ki-Yay! It works

[ibyoungr]

Angel, can you clarify b'date. If Ron, Jr. is turning 4 on Sunday, wouldn't the year of birth be 2005?

Yes, 2005 is correct.. my daughter is born in 2005 and will turn 4 in July.

[Khaki_Pants]

would casting a chart on todays search help in any way?

Copied from: http://texasequusearch.org/2009/02/haleigh-cummings-search-update-021309/
"02/13/09 - Texas EquuSearch began the first day of coordinated volunteer search efforts today, in conjunction with local and state law enforcement. As of 9:30am, EST, approximately 100 volunteers have shown up, in addition to the core TES team and law enforcement. We are extremely pleased with the turnout that we are seeing and the level of cooperation that we are receiving from the community."

[Angel Who Cares]

Angel, can you clarify b'date. If Ron, Jr. is turning 4 on Sunday, wouldn't the year of birth be 2005?

Sorry You are right...LOL I just woke up & the last 2 days that's the second time I typed in the wrong year! CAFFEINE needed & fast! LOL:crazy:
He will be 4 Sunday KAITLAND...I'll edit my post to correct my typing error!
It was on the news that his birthday is Sunday & will be 4yrs old.
Ron Jr. Birthdate: Feb. 15, 2005!

hey beck good thing I added my single post to show I do know some math! LOL :crazy:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3300974&postcount=82

[KAITLAND]

The chart I posted for Ron, Jr aka "Butter Bean" was set for: 2/15/05 at 7:08a.m. for a sunrise natal chart. I used Satsuma, FL. as the birth place. Has anyone located a birthplace other than that??

[KAITLAND]

Chart: 2-15-09 at 7:08a.m. Satsuma, Fl
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/v...tal2-15-05.jpg
http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/kaitland8/RonJrnatal2-15-05.jpg

This a sunrise chart (set for the moment the sun crosses the ascendant), so the cusps are "solar cusps". He is an Aquarian with Sun conjunct Mercury (combust). Uranus in Pisces hovers close to his Mercury. He thinks and talks in a unique way.

Right off the bat, I want to look at the third house cusp because this rules his siblings. Venus ruled Taurus is on on the cusp, Moon in Taurus is housed within it. Looks all lovey-dovey and cozy.....but NOT.

Venus (Haleigh) is found in the 12th house (sorrow, tragedy) conjunct Neptune (kidnappings) in Aquarius.

So now we have a stellium of Neptune, Venus, Sun, Mercury from 15-27 degrees of Aquarius. Saturn (sorrow) at 21 Cancer is inconjunct the midpoint of Sun little Ron) and Venus (Haleigh). Saturn is inconjunct Pluto (kidnappers). The eclipse hit directly on this point earlier that day releasing the energy inherent in his natal chart....tragic results. Mercury rules the 4th house of home, the location of the tragedy. Perhaps, "Butter Bean" narrowly escaped direct harm himself (as if losing his sister is not harm enough).

His Moon in Taurus (ruling all of the women in his life, his natural mother, the "step mom GF", and his sister (because it's in 3rd house), is severely afflicted: square to the Sun, Venus, Mercury, Neptune, and Ascendant. It is inconjunct Jupiter (opportunists) and Pluto (kidnappers). There is much sorrow surrounding women in his life. Note he has been living apart from his natural mother for more than half of his little life already. He feels this lack keenly.

There is more, but we are getting the picture.....it is not pretty.

[KAITLAND]

His girlfriend, Misty Croslin, 17, says she tucked Hayleigh into her own bed at 8 o'clock.

But, a choked-up Croslin says, "I woke up (five hours later) and she was gone. The back door was wide open."

Cummings and Croslin insist the door had been locked but, reports CBS News correspondent Kelly Cobiella, investigators say they found no sign of forced entry. Croslin told a 911 dispatcher that the door, which was usually locked, had been propped open by a
brick.

Hayleigh's maternal grandmother suspects there's more to the story, Cobiella points out.

Asked if she thinks Croslin has anything to do with the girl's disappearance, Marie Griffs replied, "It's a possibility. She was there, that was her watch, Haleigh was in her care."

That was flatly denied by Cummings, who told media members, "She had nothing to do with this. I had nothing to do with this."

The child's father and his girlfriend have taken lie detector tests, Cobiella adds. Results haven't been released.

Croslin is disputing early reports that she was sleeping beside Haleigh when she vanished, as she initially told a local newspaper.

Croslin now insists she had been sleeping beside Haleigh's younger brother.

Investigators are calling the case an abduction.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/02/13/earlyshow/main4799710.shtml


================
(My bolding above)

OK, so Misty's story continues to flip-flop. Is it because she's brain-damaged from being smacked in the head and/or up against the wall one too many times by overly agitated BFs, or it is because she's a liar, or is it because she's a pothead who can't remember where she left her head if it wasn't attached to her shoulders --- or what?!

Chart would be revealing........ thanks to Everyone who is feverishly searching for it.

Thanks,
Soulscape


I also keep wondering Soulscape, if she is just frightened, because she had a lapse in judgement - did she leave the door unlocked, or is she uncertain when she really last saw Haleigh? - as in maybe she did not check on her before she (Misty) went to sleep. Or did she maybe indulge in a little something and is confused about the events, but doesn't want to come right out and say "I don't know what happened....I was high"? And really, 10pm is awfully early bedtime for a teenager. I feel pretty certain she is holding something back.

Her birth info will speak volumes to us!!!

[Scanner]

I'm glad the b-day was found, and sorry I missed the request to Housemouse a pages few back. Astrology is so fasinating! I look at the world differently since finding this thread!

Thanks for the welcome.

[Soulscape]

What 'year' are you using ? 2/15/ 2004 or 2005?


The JPG says 05.

2/15/2005

His BLACK MOON LILITH partile conjunct SATURN RX in Cancer the sign of the mother; this conjunction squares the NODES and JUPITER RX. Abuse by mom.

His Sunrise 3rd house cusp of siblings is Taurus ruled by VENUS (his sister) conjunct NEPTUNE (disappearance) in the Sunrise 12th House of Sorrow, Loss and Woe. MOON in 3rd House of Siblings also in Taurus in YOD formation with PLUTO sextile JUPITER. His Aquarius SUN is close opposed Haleigh's Leo SUN.

Looks like his SATURN may be inconjunct PLUTO, too.... a cruelty/ abuse marker.

This baby may well have trouble coming upon him, sometime down the road. Sunrise 8th cusp (Death) is ruled by VENUS conj. NEPTUNE in Sunrise 12th, retrograde JUPITER and malefic SOUTH NODE within.

Hope I am dead wrong, but Sunrise charts can be uncannily accurate...

Thanks,
Soulscape

[twomanywords]

Thanks so much for all that you do Super Astros!
I was wondering if the chart on the dad( Ronald sr) has been done?
He seems to be a time bomb ticking about to go off!
Also, can't he be arrested for statutory rape of the GF? She is a minor.
This can't be legal:(

[J. Brannagh]

Oh, Lovejac,
My heart is breaking for this child, too. As an adult who was held for a short time and tortured, I have spent over 21 years with nightmares and constant moving to stay ahead of my fears --even though my attacker/rapist has been in prison all this time, and hopefully will be for the rest of his 35 year sentence.

I cannot stand to think about how terrified she must be at this moment. I pray that she will be found alive, and that she will get the professional help and love from family that she will need to help her heal and forget (assuming she has been taken by a sexual predator). My love and prays are with her.


OMG Virtual Truth... I'm so very sorry you had to go through that... I'm so glad you are here with us... I pray for your peace and healing.

[Khaki_Pants]

*snipped by me* However, the chart fits the circs. to some extent and if it is accurate, Haleigh went north north east to a secluded location that is not a bluff at all but low ground. Lot of growth.



Would it be beneficial to pm this info to Friday, who has regular contact with TM? I wonder if we could also ask for the GF's birth info? Just a thought, I will be back in awhile.

[Lovejac]

Would it be beneficial to pm this info to Friday, who has regular contact with TM? I wonder if we could also ask for the GF's birth info? Just a thought, I will be back in awhile.

Great idea!!!:clap:

[Soulscape]

Would it be beneficial to pm this info to Friday, who has regular contact with TM? I wonder if we could also ask for the GF's birth info? Just a thought, I will be back in awhile.

Great idea!!!:clap:


Is is possible to contact Marc Klaas also? He may be privy to Misty's birth info. And what about Leonard Padilla?

Thanks,
Soulscape

[Lovejac]

According to report on GVS, Misty had the A/C repairman, her brother and a "few of his friends" at the house between 5:00 - 5:30. This chart is set for 5:15p.m. on 2/19/09, Satsuma, FL.


Leo is on the Ascendant (assigned to the GF as “hostess” for want of better word) accompanied by rising moon in Leo (which is conjunct Haleigh’s natal Sun). Note that Leo is the natural ruler of children, and is the ruler of Haleigh’s natal sun. We find the Sun in Aquarius in the 7th house, conjunct Neptune and Chiron. The 7th house rules guests and Neptune rules kidnappers. Could it be the girlfriend knows the kidnapper?

The child is ruled by the Jupiter 5th house cusp and Venus in Aries in 9th house. Jupiter and the North node of fate are conjunct the 7th house cusp of visitors, along with Mars, ruler of Aries Venus (the child), showing Haleigh was present and in view of the guests.

It is my understanding that MC’s brother was there with his friends. Her brother is ruled by 3rd house cusp Libra. Venus (the child!) is in Aries, look again to its ruler Mars in the 6th house. This house also rules service workers (like our meter reader). Does the brother know the A/C man? This is a small town, so it is not inconceivable that they knew each other. At any rate, they are together during this “visit”.

Her brother’s friends would be represented by the ascendant in Leo, points us back to the Sun in Aquarius conjunct Neptune. There is some mystery here to be uncovered yet. There is also a possibility of drug activity.
The Aquarian 7th house is ruled by Uranus. It is also co-ruled by Saturn, placed in the 2nd house in tragic opposition to Uranus in Pisces in the 8th house of death. 8th house is natural ruler of Pluto, ruler of kidnappers. Pluto is found in the 5th house of the child, in Capricorn (Saturn’s sign) and is square Venus in Aries. The 4th house cusp (endings) is Pluto ruled Scorpio.

I do not think the assailant is unknown to this family. Not welcomed or assisted, but they have been in his presence before.

On the other hand, Venus the child is located in the 9th house – outdoors. Was she playing in the yard, unattended during this time? Was she visible to someone lurking and watching? With all the activity and confusion (Neptune) going on due to the presence of at least 4 or so visitors,
she might not have been missed.

As Tuba points out in the eerie moonrise chart (drawn up for about an hour later than the visitors) – the trouble has already started in this house. Soulscape’s chart for the last time seen was chilling in revealing the symbolism of death.

I do not think the assailant is unknown to this family.

We still have questions: How did the perpetrator get into the house? Front door? Back door? Is girl friend upset/guilty appearing because she maybe left a door unlocked?

I will have more to say on this chart, but the computer guy is coming within 30 minutes.

Soulscape and Tuba are the master’s at event readings here, but I wanted to post this chart as a possible glimpse into the hours before Haleigh went missing. Please feel free to comment!

(It would not let me post the chart! Will try again after computer whiz leaves)


Wow! After reading charts done by you, Tuba and Soulscape, I am convinced that Misty does'nt know when she saw Haleigh last!

Can you imagine her fear of Ronald finding that out :eek: I'm scared for her. Although 17, she seems alot younger to me emotionally, add to that caring for 2 children and a home with, at the very least, a verbally abusive man with a quick temper.

O/T, sorry I haven't been able to help search for Misty's dob. The twins have been into EVERYTHING today, requiring alot more supervision from me! Oh the wonders of the "Trying Two's" (I don't consider them the terrible two's:crazy:)

I will try searching for Misty's dob again. Ladies, thank you for your dedication to Kaleigh! :blowkiss: Catherine

[Lovejac]

Okay, I just PM'ed Friday and asked for some help with Misty's dob. I will let you know when I hear back.

I cannot for the life of me remember the poster here that always called LP or I would ask for their help too.

[petresq_algc]

Okay, I just PM'ed Friday and asked for some help with Misty's dob. I will let you know when I hear back.

I cannot for the life of me remember the poster here that always called LP or I would ask for their help too.

Great idea! Was that Blink that used to call LP :waitasec:

[FifthEssence]

I see the '05 on the jpeg now...
I added the 'active' photobucket link to #145/Kaitland as the one listed there only took me to photobucket.com and not to the chart Kaitland originally listed in post #137.

everythings good.....

[Tuba]

The problem, Lovejac is that Misty's 10 o'clock time is the one used for the Last Seen chart and IMO, it is not the true time. The Moon Rise chart would have Haleigh to the north north west instead of the north north east. And the area would look vastly different too. I trust the Moon Rise chart more than Misty's acc't. She would be on hilly ground, essentially virgin territory, a refuge for law breakers.

[KAITLAND]

Ronald C. Cummings, Sr.
Natal Sunrise chart
10-25-83 0738am Satsuma, FL



http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/kaitland8/RonaldCummingsnatal10-25-830738amSa.jpg


He has Sun and Saturn conjunct in heavy Scorpio, and both conjunct Mercury & Pluto (which rules Scorpio) in Libra. Highly concentrated center of power. The gentleness of Mercury in Libra is trampled under the coarseness of Pluto. Hence the first words we hear him YELLING on the 911 tape are curse words (Scorpio, Pluto harshness) and threats of murder (Pluto). Okay, so he is right up front about his feelings.

Mars is important as the traditional ruler of his Scorpio Sun. His Mars (aggression) is found in Virgo conjunct venus (women). It forms a very dynamic and agitating T- square to Moon & N. node in Gemini (duality, and fated connections to women), and blustery Jupiter Uranus (sudden upsets/violence) in Sagittarius.

He is erratic, hypercritical, and explosive. He can also be loving, charming, and chivalrous. His relationships with women are tumultous and unstable - he lashes out before thinking (telling the operator he will kill the perpetrator), and dominates his environment and those close to him.

Look at the 5th house - it rules his children. Pisces on the cusp, ruled by Neptune in Sag inconjunct Chiron (the wounded) in the 8th house of death. The much maligned current transiting opposition of Saturn (sorrow) in Virgo to Uranus (upsets) in Pisces (kidnappings) falls across his 5th house (Haleigh) and 11th house (friends) axis. This is sorrow coming from "friends" across to the house of his children. It has been hitting his natal T-square for some time now. Many problems have been going on in his household for a long time.

The Jan 26th & Feb 9th eclipses fell across his MH/IC axis, fortelling tragedy in his home environment and propelling him into the public spotlight.

Soulscape - look at the ominous inconjuncts from Chiron to: Sun, Merc, Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto. Chiron also opposes Uranus.

Volatility is the key word.

[KAITLAND]

The problem, Lovejac is that Misty's 10 o'clock time is the one used for the Last Seen chart and IMO, it is not the true time. The Moon Rise chart would have Haleigh to the north north west instead of the north north east. And the area would look vastly different too. I trust the Moon Rise chart more than Misty's acc't. She would be on hilly ground, essentially virgin territory, a refuge for law breakers.


I agree Tuba, I think that 10pm time is wrong. I do not think Misty is sure when she last saw Haleigh. The moonrise casts a ghastly glow over that household. I found it intriguing and have never done a moonrise chart myself. Very, very revealing indeed.

[FifthEssence]

here is a satellite view of the home as marked 'A' and the surrounding area.
Address: 202 Green Lane, Satsuma, FL 32189

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=202+Green+Lane+Satsuma+Florida&daddr=116+Tyler+Street+Satsuma+Fl&hl=en&geocode=&mra=cc&dirflg=w&sll=29.573245,-81.675355&sspn=0.00115,0.002414&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=19

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/HALEIGHhome.jpg

[Soulscape]

Look at the 5th house - it rules his children. Pisces on the cusp, ruled by Neptune in Sag inconjunct Chiron (the wounded) in the 8th house of death. The much maligned current transiting opposition of Saturn (sorrow) in Virgo to Uranus (upsets) in Pisces (kidnappings) falls across his 5th house (Haleigh) and 11th house (friends) axis. This is sorrow coming from "friends" across to the house of his children. It has been hitting his natal T-square for some time now. Many problems have been going on in his household for a long time.

The Jan 26th & Feb 9th eclipses fell across his MH/IC axis, fortelling tragedy in his home environment and propelling him into the public spotlight.

<Respectfully snipped & bolded>

Kaitland, we are repeatedly seeing this "friends" connection.

Tuba, in your Moonrise chart, 11th House is Gemini, making MERCURY the ruler of Friends. MERCURY is in the 5th House of the Child in your chart, minutes away from critical degree 26 cardinal.

In the 911 Call chart, Scorpio is on the 11th House cusp, making MARS the ruler of Friends. MARS applies conjunct to JUPITER (Ronald), both intercepted in Aquarius in 2nd House of chart. Both disposited by the SATURN/URANUS exact opposition currently afflicting Ronald's 10/4 natal axis in the Sunrise chart.

The possibility the abductor is someone who knows the family / has been in the house before / is considered a "friend" becomes stronger.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[zelmajane]

I want to apologize to everyone for my original birth date for Ron being a few days off.

[FifthEssence]

I will go back thru the main threads and reconfirm, but as I recall, her 'brother' lives on Tyler st north north west of their house.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=202+Green+Lane+Satsuma+Florida&daddr=116+Tyler+Street+Satsuma+Fl&hl=en&geocode=&mra=cc&dirflg=w&sll=29.573245,-81.675355&sspn=0.00115,0.002414&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=19
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/Haleighgfsbrotherhouse.jpg

[KAITLAND]

Is 10-25-83 the correct day for Ronald Sr.?????

[ROBLYN]

I've been to the site, I've looked all over, but I don't see what they are talking about. Didn't see any place or anything to vote on.

I will see if i can find it. The voting may be closed, it was when the transition team was choosing which agenda to focus on during their time in office.
If protecting our children is not #1 priority, i don't know what should be...

Sorry- it took me so long to respond, had to step away today, but i have and will keep praying harder than i have ever prayed in my life that they find Haleigh Alive...

Thank-You Astro's.....

[Tuba]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/TESMeetstoSearch007.jpg

This is for convening the searching this morning. Very significant, Saturn took rulership of the hour at precisely 9:30 a.m.

[ROBLYN]

I watched one of the news clips where the GF and the dad were hugging, where she told the newsman she put the kids to bed at 8pm - then she looked at the dad with a look....... Like she wasn't telling the truth but telling what he wanted to hear. It was the kind of look a naughty child would give after doing something wrong.

There's a report of her two young cousins being at the house. Then there was the A/C guy, and now her brother and his friends. Seems like a lot of traffic for the GF to pay attention to, plus the little children. That's if all the visiting reports are accurate. Could she have misplaced the child earlier and not known what to do about it?

I also babysit as a teen in the 1960s :eek: but I stayed with my brother who was 10 years younger, and then later with lil bro and my sister who was born when I was 16. I was well-schooled in child care and knew I would have been killed if anything went wrong on my account. I was responsible and things were different, and I wasn't doing the drug thing or the sex thing. Rather dull, I'd say. At 18 or 19, I sat for others, and for my friends who began having kids long before I did.

I just think the GF isn't responsible enough, nor wise enough to take care of children so young. She seems extremely childlike to me, a child herself, who has found her way into a dangerous adult world. So the assumptions that negligence of some sort paved the way for the abduction could very possibly be correct. Someone could have left the door unlocked while all those people were going in and out, or someone else came in while all the people were otherwise occupied with chatting and whatnot. By the time the child was noticed missing, the GF didn't think to call the police or was too afraid of the consequences, or needed time to cook up an alibi.

I have been feeling, unintentional neglect on gf part,as well.

[FifthEssence]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/TESMeetstoSearch007.jpg

This is for convening the searching this morning. Very significant, Saturn took rulership of the hour at precisely 9:30 a.m.

OT:
Am having a hard time 'breathing' as I look at this

[ROBLYN]

aksleuth
This is why you couldn't find where to vote! The voting closed January 18th, 2009. I voted way back & can't even get to where I left my message to be in the Citizen Brief Book! Tricia must not know that the voting closed on this already. It had many other topics to vote on & to post your message & none of them are there any longer so they all have closed too!

Wrapping up the Citizen’s Briefing Book
Friday, January 16, 2009 06:29pm / Posted by Dan McSwain
Every day, the President receives books filled with facts and recommendations to be considered while crafting and enacting policies.
The Citizen’s Briefing Book—a project that has enabled everyday Americans to share their expertise and insight with President Obama—has been a tremendous success so far.
Michael Strautmanis, Director of Public Liaison and Intergovernmental Affairs for the Transition, was particularly impressed by the enthusiastic response the feature has elicited.
“We have had an unbelievable response—over 70,000 people participated, half a million votes, and tens of thousands of wonderful ideas,” Strautmanis said.
The Citizen’s Briefing Book will be open for ideas, comments, and voting until Sunday at 6pm. President Obama will later receive the Citizen’s Briefing Book: a unique compilation of the ideas and feedback submitted completely by the Change.gov community.
We’re eager to carry this community’s enthusiasm forward in the coming months and years. We invite all Americans to join the new administration online at WhiteHouse.gov after President-elect Obama is sworn in.
http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/wrapping_up_the_citizens_briefing_book/

*NOTE:
I could be wrong but I can't get back to where my comments are! When I'm more awake later I'll search some more to see if I can find it in case I'm wrong!

Angel,

Thank-You for posting, should have read the whole thread before commenting.

OT- The Train song that you mentioned the other day, i posted on Caylee's forum a few times on tuesday. :blowkiss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAKF3_hCSNs

Calling All Angels to watch over Haleigh.

[Lovejac]

Great idea! Was that Blink that used to call LP :waitasec:

Blink mostly use to talk to LP nephew Tony.

The poster here recently that has called him on several ocassions,has a pic of a guy & girl as her avi. My brain is fried! Maybe I'll remember if I don't think about it.:rolleyes:

Hopefully, Friday can help.

[Lovejac]

here is a satellite view of the home as marked 'A' and the surrounding area.
Address: 202 Green Lane, Satsuma, FL 32189

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=202+Green+Lane+Satsuma+Florida&daddr=116+Tyler+Street+Satsuma+Fl&hl=en&geocode=&mra=cc&dirflg=w&sll=29.573245,-81.675355&sspn=0.00115,0.002414&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=19

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/HALEIGHhome.jpg

WOW, Fifth! Thank's for that visual. Look at all of those surrounding woods :eek: creepy to say the least!

God speed to Tim and TES searching that area.

[Angel Who Cares]

Photos Day 3 Of The Search For Haleigh Cummings 2/11/09
http://photos.jacksonville.com/mycapture/enlarge.asp?image=22262344&event=690573&CategoryID=9088

[Lovejac]

Ronald C. Cummings, Sr.
Natal Sunrise chart
10-25-83 0738am Satsuma, FL



http://i671.photobucket.com/albums/vv74/kaitland8/RonaldCummingsnatal10-25-830738amSa.jpg


He has Sun and Saturn conjunct in heavy Scorpio, and both conjunct Mercury & Pluto (which rules Scorpio) in Libra. Highly concentrated center of power. The gentleness of Mercury in Libra is trampled under the coarseness of Pluto. Hence the first words we hear him YELLING on the 911 tape are curse words (Scorpio, Pluto harshness) and threats of murder (Pluto). Okay, so he is right up front about his feelings.

Mars is important as the traditional ruler of his Scorpio Sun. His Mars (aggression) is found in Virgo conjunct venus (women). It forms a very dynamic and agitating T- square to Moon & N. node in Gemini (duality, and fated connections to women), and blustery Jupiter Uranus (sudden upsets/violence) in Sagittarius.

He is erratic, hypercritical, and explosive. He can also be loving, charming, and chivalrous. His relationships with women are tumultous and unstable - he lashes out before thinking (telling the operator he will kill the perpetrator), and dominates his environment and those close to him.

Look at the 5th house - it rules his children. Pisces on the cusp, ruled by Neptune in Sag inconjunct Chiron (the wounded) in the 8th house of death. The much maligned current transiting opposition of Saturn (sorrow) in Virgo to Uranus (upsets) in Pisces (kidnappings) falls across his 5th house (Haleigh) and 11th house (friends) axis. This is sorrow coming from "friends" across to the house of his children. It has been hitting his natal T-square for some time now. Many problems have been going on in his household for a long time.

The Jan 26th & Feb 9th eclipses fell across his MH/IC axis, fortelling tragedy in his home environment and propelling him into the public spotlight.

Soulscape - look at the ominous inconjuncts from Chiron to: Sun, Merc, Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto. Chiron also opposes Uranus.

Volatility is the key word.

DANG IT! The website just went nutty!! I'm going to try to post this again, Maybe the 3rd time will be a charm!!!!


Kaitland, in response to what I bolded above:

*He is right up front about his feeling*, as refreshing as I find this, I'm sure it doesn't sit well with the ones closest to him!

*This is sorrow coming from "friends" across to the house of his children*, here is this friend reference yet again! So he knows this person, has met him, or, had some sort of interaction with him. This would NOT be a complete stranger to him, right?

[Khaki_Pants]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/TESMeetstoSearch007.jpg

This is for convening the searching this morning. Very significant, Saturn took rulership of the hour at precisely 9:30 a.m.

Thank you Tuba.

[Lovejac]

The problem, Lovejac is that Misty's 10 o'clock time is the one used for the Last Seen chart and IMO, it is not the true time. The Moon Rise chart would have Haleigh to the north north west instead of the north north east. And the area would look vastly different too. I trust the Moon Rise chart more than Misty's acc't. She would be on hilly ground, essentially virgin territory, a refuge for law breakers.

ITA! Your moonrise chart showed "it" had already happened.

It doesn't really matter to me whether Misty says she put Kaleigh to bed at 8:00 pm OR 10:00 pm, because she didn't put her to bed AT ALL!

[Lovejac]

The problem, Lovejac is that Misty's 10 o'clock time is the one used for the Last Seen chart and IMO, it is not the true time. The Moon Rise chart would have Haleigh to the north north west instead of the north north east. And the area would look vastly different too. I trust the Moon Rise chart more than Misty's acc't. She would be on hilly ground, essentially virgin territory, a refuge for law breakers.

Another thought, Tuba!

Kaitland's chart was for 5:15 pm
Your moonrise chart was for 6:32 pm

So, Kaleigh was taken between 5:15 pm and 6:32 pm, that narrows "IT" down.

[Lovejac]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/TESMeetstoSearch007.jpg

This is for convening the searching this morning. Very significant, Saturn took rulership of the hour at precisely 9:30 a.m.


Sweet Jesus, Tuba! Please tell me she is not still being assaulted!!

Please, God, where is Kaleigh right now?

Can she be saved before her demise?

My stomach is in knots!!

[ROBLYN]

Oh.... This poor sweet baby!

Thank-you Tuba

[Lovejac]

Response from Friday re: Misty's DOB:

I've asked for the info. This is a little off TES's familiar path, so can't promise anything. It may take a day or so before they encounter a family member or Misty herself that they can ask.
Obviously LE knows the answer, but Tim's policy is never to ask LE anything that doesn't directly concern the search. Which is probably why LE trusts him so much that they confide in him.

[Kat]

I'm sorry I have never posted before on this thread although I do read it everyday.

This was posted on the general discussion thread by Ibyounger.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

It is the police report and has DOB's listed for witnesses. If you need to delete or need me to delete this let me know :blowkiss:

[KAITLAND]

Right Lovejac. By "friend", this can mean just an aquaintance - not necessarily buddy-buddy, but somehow they have crossed paths.

It may be slim, but I'm praying Tuba that she is found alive, before the conjunction of node occurs....

Watched the press conf. Yes, they have something significant. Food items? Cigarette butts? Did he cut her hair, change her clothing in attempt at diguise? Disturbing.

[nanny1]

Misty'd DOB is listed as 12/9/1991

[Khaki_Pants]

I'm sorry I have never posted before on this thread although I do read it everyday.

This was posted on the general discussion thread by Ibyounger.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

It is the police report and has DOB's listed for witnesses. If you need to delete or need me to delete this let me know :blowkiss:


Thanks Kat. I think that may be just what they need.

GF dob listed as 12/9/1991

[Jersey*Girl]

Response from Friday re: Misty's DOB:

I've asked for the info. This is a little off TES's familiar path, so can't promise anything. It may take a day or so before they encounter a family member or Misty herself that they can ask.
Obviously LE knows the answer, but Tim's policy is never to ask LE anything that doesn't directly concern the search. Which is probably why LE trusts him so much that they confide in him.

Misty's DOB 12/9/91
Also note the time of incident report is 3:50.
Link Below (respectfully pulled from Missing thread):
http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

[Lovejac]

I'm sorry I have never posted before on this thread although I do read it everyday.

This was posted on the general discussion thread by Ibyounger.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

It is the police report and has DOB's listed for witnesses. If you need to delete or need me to delete this let me know :blowkiss:

OMG< Kat, I could kiss you for bringing this info. Please, please, please, stop by more often!!!:blowkiss:

[Salem]

Okay - I think you have it - but just incase - MC's DOB is 12/9/1991. Here's a link:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

Salem

[FifthEssence]

KAT, JERSEY GIRL, SALEM & NANNY 1........big big thank you for bringing us the Police Report

[Lovejac]

Salem, Kat, Nanny 1 and Jersey Girl, I cannot express my gratitude enough for you guys rushing over here to give our Super Astro's Misty's dob.

I feel so proud to be part of so much love and concern for yet another innocent child in the middle of a crisis.

Sorry if I'm being too mushy, I am just so overwhelmed with sadness after reading Tuba's chart for 2/13/09 9:30 am.

To think that Kaleigh is still going through this horror while everyone was looking for her just breaks my heart.

Please pray with me that LE finds the answers they need to find her before she's gone from this world>

[KAITLAND]

THANK YOU KAT!!!!!!!!!

But now, we have to change at least two charts.
The natal chart date for Haleigh was reported as 8/16/2003. Previous listing was one day later?

And now Ronald Sr, is listed as 10/29/1983, instead of 10/25. This will make a big difference.

So, are these the correct dates to go with for certain??

Haleigh 8/16/03 age 5

Ronald, Sr. 10/29/83 age 25

Misty 12/9/91 age 17

Crystal 8/30/89 age 19 (Crystal was FOURTEEN y/o when Haleigh was born?????????)


I want until we are absolutely certain of the dates before I redo charts.

[Jersey*Girl]

KAT, JERSEY GIRL, SALEM........big big thank you for bringing us the Police Report

Nooo, thank YOU! I feel bad b/c we all posted at the same time. Sorry if we added confusion to all that you do. I might as well speak for all of us and say we're waiting PATIENTLY for a new chart. Honestly - that was a just a joke, please laugh. Take your time. We all appreciate every single thing you dames do. What a talented bunch. I truly feel blessed to have encountered such an insightful, inspiring, and exciting group of Astro Sleuths! Much love to ya's! :blowkiss:

[Kat]

I'm praying with you Lovejac.

Thank you for being so warm and inviting to my post. I do not aspire to learn forensic astrology but when I sign on to WS this forum is my first visit every morning.

I have come to deeply admire and respect the work of so many here. My gratitude is not only for the time and dedication they give in providing charts but there consideration in translating those charts for us that do not understand. I am humbled and grateful to each and every one of you :blowkiss:

I thought that perhaps when a chart is drawn up that the birth place might be needed? I hope I am not presuming too much about how these charts are constructed.

I found an article today in which Misty talked about herself.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130293/1008/WEATHER?Title=Misty_Croslin__who_was_watching_Hale igh__tells_about_herself

Of course it is very interesting but she stated that her state of birth was Michigan.

It goes on to tell a bit about her life up until she came to be at the home with Haleigh. I hope this can help too.

[Jersey*Girl]

THANK YOU KAT!!!!!!!!!

But now, we have to change at least two charts.
The natal chart date for Haleigh was reported as 8/16/2003. Previous listing was one day later?

And now Ronald Sr, is listed as 10/29/1983, instead of 10/25. This will make a big difference.

So, are these the correct dates to go with for certain??

Haleigh 8/16/03 age 5

Ronald, Sr. 10/29/83 age 25

Misty 12/9/91 age 17

Crystal 8/30/89 age 19 (Crystal was FOURTEEN y/o when Haleigh was born?????????)


I want until we are absolutely certain of the dates before I redo charts.

I had to hurry back to this post and edit my reply. I was referring to Misty. Misty was 16 when she started dating Haleigh's father.

[Jersey*Girl]

Salem, Kat, Nanny 1 and Jersey Girl, I cannot express my gratitude enough for you guys rushing over here to give our Super Astro's Misty's dob.

I feel so proud to be part of so much love and concern for yet another innocent child in the middle of a crisis.

Sorry if I'm being too mushy, I am just so overwhelmed with sadness after reading Tuba's chart for 2/13/09 9:30 am.

To think that Kaleigh is still going through this horror while everyone was looking for her just breaks my heart.

Please pray with me that LE finds the answers they need to find her before she's gone from this world>


You're being mushy? What about the fact that I'm sitting in front of my son's computer crying my eyes out b/c I'm feeling the same way? LOL. We're all a bunch of saps! Wonderful caring saps...but saps nonetheless.

[Khaki_Pants]

Wait....

I thought on Crysatls myspace page there was a section of pics for her 23rd bday? I am confused. I will see if I can find it...

[FifthEssence]

THANK YOU KAT!!!!!!!!!

But now, we have to change at least two charts.
The natal chart date for Haleigh was reported as 8/16/2003. Previous listing was one day later?

And now Ronald Sr, is listed as 10/29/1983, instead of 10/25. This will make a big difference.

So, are these the correct dates to go with for certain??

Haleigh 8/16/03 age 5

Ronald, Sr. 10/29/83 age 25

Misty 12/9/91 age 17

Crystal 8/30/89 age 19 (Crystal was FOURTEEN y/o when Haleigh was born?????????)


I want until we are absolutely certain of the dates before I redo charts.

also note that Haleigh's place of birth is listed as GAINESVILLE, FL....a short distance from Satsuma

[Lovejac]

I'm reading to police report again.

Two things stood out to me.

1) Haleigh's full name is Haleigh Ann Marie
2) under physical condition, it says Turner's Syndrome

[Khaki_Pants]

Wait....

I thought on Crysatls myspace page there was a section of pics for her 23rd bday? I am confused. I will see if I can find it...


Tried to open the myspace page and my comp glitched out. All my windows shut down and dozens of blank browser pages popped up one after the other, and I couldn't close em fast enough! :eek: Not gonna try to open that up again right now.

[Lovejac]

http://www.medicinenet.com/turner_syndrome/article.htm


What is Turner syndrome?

Turner syndrome is a chromosomal condition that alters development in females. Women with this condition tend to be shorter than average and are usually unable to conceive a child (infertile) because of an absence of ovarian function. Other features of this condition that can vary among women who have Turner syndrome include: extra skin on the neck (webbed neck), puffiness or swelling (lymphedema) of the hands and feet, skeletal abnormalities, heart defects and kidney problems.

[Khaki_Pants]

Ok this is confusing.

http://www.fox30online.com/content/topstories/story/Mother-of-missing-girl-speaks/PiNVJOKIxkW60ceylDy8Ng.cspx

*copied from above article*
"Sheffield is the biological mother of Haleigh Cummings. Sheffield tells us she met Ronald Cummings when she was 14. They had two children together before splitting up when Sheffield was 19."

[Tessie]

I just caught this too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_syndrome
Turner syndrome
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[KAITLAND]

Yes, I am going to wait before redoing charts.

Can't remember who posted other b'dates now - if you are reading this can you clarify which sites you got them from.

I have suspicions that the police report could have errors:

10/25 can sound very similar to 10/29 (Ronald does not seem to have perfect diction, and he was hysterical at the time).

8/16 is one day off (for Haleigh), and remember Misty could not give the 911 operator the child's b'date on phone - she had to ask Ronald. At that point, I don't think Ronald cared what her birthdate was!

I'm just flat out having a problem thinking Crystal gave birth at age 14.

Can we keep sleuthing?

:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

[Lovejac]

Yes, I am going to wait before redoing charts.

Can't remember who posted other b'dates now - if you are reading this can you clarify which sites you got them from.

I have suspicions that the police report could have errors:

10/25 can sound very similar to 10/29 (Ronald does not seem to have perfect diction, and he was hysterical at the time).

8/16 is one day off (for Haleigh), and remember Misty could not give the 911 operator the child's b'date on phone - she had to ask Ronald. At that point, I don't think Ronald cared what her birthdate was!

I'm just flat out having a problem thinking Crystal gave birth at age 14.

Can we keep sleuthing?

:blowkiss::blowkiss::blowkiss:

Kaitland, I am so sorry that some of the dates might be off. I hate to think of all the hard work y'all did.

[KAITLAND]

Not to worry lovejac - the major planets will remain the same, but moon & mercury will change, venus a little bit.

Geez, looks like Crystal really was 14.....sigh.

[Jersey*Girl]

Not to worry lovejac - the major planets will remain the same, but moon & mercury will change, venus a little bit.

Geez, looks like Crystal really was 14.....sigh.

I'm leaning towards maybe an error in the police report. I made copies of some of Crystals pictures form her MySpace. She even has a folder titled 23rd Birthday. Her sister has the same pictures of Crystals 23rd birthday celebration on her MySpace, too.

[Jersey*Girl]

I don't know if you all could use this little bit of info, but Haleigh's little brother's birthday is as follows:

Ronald LeMyles Cummings, Jr.
February 15, 2005

It is vitally important to read through this link to documents. Wow! I urge all to read. Thanks again.

http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf

[Khaki_Pants]

I'm leaning towards maybe an error in the police report. I made copies of some of Crystals pictures form her MySpace. She even has a folder titled 23rd Birthday. Her sister has the same pictures of Crystals 23rd birthday celebration on her MySpace, too.


Yeah. That was folder I was talking about. Also in one of the interviews I recall (maybe Crystals mom) stating that Crystal had Haleigh when she was 18. I am trying to find that now. Also, thought this was interesting as well....


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/021309predator_missing

Looking into that last link a bit. It concerns a RSO who was last seen on Feb first and is reported missing from Marion county Fl, Which I think borders Putnam. I found his Conviction report, a DOB, but will only post it if you think it is necessary needed.

[Soulscape]

I don't know if you all could use this little bit of info, but Haleigh's little brother's birthday is as follows:

Ronald LeMyles Cummings, Jr.
February 15, 2005

It is vitally important to read through this link to documents. Wow! I urge all to read. Thanks again.

http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf


Thank you Jersey Girl. This legal document contains both Haleigh's and Ron Jr's correct birthdates.

Haleigh Ann Marie Cummings
August 17, 2003
Gainesville FL (according to police report)


Ronald Jr.
February 15, 2005
Birthplace unknown

Misty's date of birth (from police report)
December 9, 1991
Michigan

Ronald's date of birth (from police report)
October 29, 1983
We previously had October 25, 1983 --- need confirmation on which is correct.

Crystal Sheffield (from police report)
August 30, 1989, age 19
---seemingly confirmed by article where she states she had Haleigh at age 14 and left Ronald at age 19
---myspace says age 23??
Which is correct?? Need confirmation.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[KAITLAND]

I don't know if you all could use this little bit of info, but Haleigh's little brother's birthday is as follows:

Ronald LeMyles Cummings, Jr.
February 15, 2005

It is vitally important to read through this link to documents. Wow! I urge all to read. Thanks again.

http://www.fox30online.com/media/news/1/3/e/13e1a8a0-e082-477f-9698-11a796f76a10/petineer.pdf


Great find, Jersey Girl. This sheds a whole lotta bright light on the case, doesn't it. I think some unsavory types have been on the premises. Now I understand the involvement of CPS. The 11th house planetary emphasis (friends/aquaintances) is becoming crystal clear...so to speak.

Also now we have THREE b'dates for Haleigh:
8/16/03 on the police incident report
8/17/03 from someone here, and from the COURT document (I trust this one)
8/18/03 on the affadavit from J. Sheffield (Crystal's dad)

[beckaroozie]

Did someone get a copy of the police report? Is Ronald, Sr's DOB on there? I found 10/29/83 in the myorangeclerk site - -he evidently got a ticket in Orlando once. I also found another traffic issue (which I haven't been able to locate a second time) in Flagler, or Baker County for him that also showed DOB 10/29/83.

If the Police Report shows 10/29/83 for him, I'd be relatively certain that's correct.

Traffic File at www.myorangeclerk.com

Case No. 2002-TR-0140369-O Dated: 10/8/02 for Ronald L. Cummings

[Khaki_Pants]

Did someone get a copy of the police report? Is Ronald, Sr's DOB on there? I found 10/29/83 in the myorangeclerk site - -he evidently got a ticket in Orlando once. I also found another traffic issue (which I haven't been able to locate a second time) in Flagler, or Baker County for him that also showed DOB 10/29/83.

If the Police Report shows 10/29/83 for him, I'd be relatively certain that's correct.

Traffic File at www.myorangeclerk.com

Case No. 2002-TR-0140369-O Dated: 10/8/02 for Ronald L. Cummings


How did you find that? I was trying to find information last night concerning Crystals oct 5, 2007 car accident referenced on her myspace, but I couldn't find a thing!

[beckaroozie]

Khaki the Orange County records are set up differently, and you have direct access to them at www.myorangeclerk.com. You don't have to go through the myfloridacounty website thing. I just checked there on the outside chance he'd gotten a ticket in Orange County, and voila! he had.

[beckaroozie]

Great find, Jersey Girl. This sheds a whole lotta bright light on the case, doesn't it. I think some unsavory types have been on the premises. Now I understand the involvement of CPS. The 11th house planetary emphasis (friends/aquaintances) is becoming crystal clear...so to speak.

Also now we have THREE b'dates for Haleigh:
8/16/03 on the police incident report
8/17/03 from someone here, and from the COURT document (I trust this one)
8/18/03 on the affadavit from J. Sheffield (Crystal's dad)

Kait - the missing and exploited poster for Haleigh says her DOB is 8/17/03.

[Khaki_Pants]

Khaki the Orange County records are set up differently, and you have direct access to them at www.myorangeclerk.com. You don't have to go through the myfloridacounty website thing. I just checked there on the outside chance he'd gotten a ticket in Orange County, and voila! he had.

Nice! That's like a high five moment!

[Jersey*Girl]

Nice! That's like a high five moment!

High five my bazonkadonk...that's like a high ten! Thanks!

[beckaroozie]

Soulscape - For Crystal, Jacksonville Court (Traffic) Records show:

DOB 4/30/1985

https://showcase.duvalclerk.com/ViewCaseDetails.aspx?id=4050596&court=0

[Khaki_Pants]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/021309predator_missing

Looking into that last link a bit. It concerns a RSO who was last seen on Feb first and is reported missing from Marion county Fl, Which I think borders Putnam. I found his Conviction report, a DOB, but will only post it if you think it is necessary needed.

If I understand the other thread correctly, A tv program, (Nancy maybe) is talking about this guy. Maybe he does deserve a closer look.

His DOB: 06/18/1983

link to his predator flyer: http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=54368

[Soulscape]

The petition to determine paternity confirms Haleigh's and Ronald Jr.'s birthdates. The police report gives Gainesville FL as Haleigh's place of birth. I am using Satsuma FL as Ronald Jr's and Ronald Sr's place of birth because this was their location at time of Haleigh's disappearance. If we later find places of birth we can plug them in, but I have confidence the relocated birth charts will work.

Misty Croslin was born 12/9/91 in Michigan. I have used Lansing as that is a central city in Michigan. I think it will be close enough for our purposes. We could also experiment with a chart relocated to Satsuma for her.



1. Haleigh Cummings natal chart (Sunrise) cast for Gainesville, FL
August 17, 2003

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/HaleighCummingsNATALSunrise.gif



2. Ronald Cummings (Haleigh's dad) natal chart (Sunrise) relocated to Satsuma, FL
October 29, 1983

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/RonaldCummingsNatalSunrise.gif



3. Misty Croslin (girlfriend) natal chart (Sunrise) relocated to Satsuma, FL
December 9, 1991

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/MistyCroslinRelocatedNatalSunrise.gif



4. Misty Croslin (girlfriend) natal chart (Sunrise) cast for Lansing MI
December 9, 1991

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/MistyCroslinNatalSunrise.gif



5. Ronald Cummings Jr (Haleigh's brother) natal chart (Sunrise) cast for Satsuma, FL
February 15, 2005

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/RonaldCummingsJrNatalSunrise.gif



6. Crystal Sheffield (Haleigh's bio mom) natal chart (Sunrise) relocated to Satsuma, FL
April 30, 1985

http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/CrystalSheffieldRelocatedNatalSunri.gif



Thanks,
Soulscape

[Soulscape]

Soulscape - For Crystal, Jacksonville Court (Traffic) Records show:

DOB 4/30/1985

https://showcase.duvalclerk.com/ViewCaseDetails.aspx?id=4050596&court=0


You're the best, Beck! :blowkiss:

Will add this chart to my post above in a few.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[beckaroozie]

Muhahaha Methinks someone was fibbing about their age because of Misty's, um 'dewiness'. Hahaha not.

P.S. KUDOS TO WHOEVER GOT THE POLICE REPORT!!! WOOT WOOT!! WTG!!

[KAITLAND]

snipped from Soulscape:
Misty Croslin was born 12/9/91 in Michigan. I have used Lansing as that is a central city in Michigan. I think it will be close enough for our purposes. We could also experiment with a chart relocated to Satsuma for her.

Great minds think alike SS! I was thinking either Lansing or maybe Flint. Either way it should be close enough.



Maybe Angel and some of our other "up North" friends can think about her accent - but honestly, I thought she had a hint of southern....

[beckaroozie]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/TESMeetstoSearch007.jpg

This is for convening the searching this morning. Very significant, Saturn took rulership of the hour at precisely 9:30 a.m.

Tuba any idea on time for 8 deg Aries? Also, could you explain the last statement about the strange placement of sun?

[imaginethatsr]

Charts can be complicated, contrary and hard to read. Sometimes less is more.

By focusing on just two aspect patterns -- the inconjunct (150 degrees) and the quindecile (165 degrees) I found a wealth of information revealed in the 911 Call chart (3:27 am EST, 2/10/09).

See chart here:
http://i428.photobucket.com/albums/qq5/Soulscape12/Haleigh%20Cummings/911Call150-165.gif

You will see three heavy black aspect lines with a 5 symbol for the quindecile and five lighter aspect lines with the inconjunct symbol.

Both inconjuncts and quindeciles are high stress aspects, the inconjuncts more disjunctive (sometimes literally a *disconnect*) and the quindecile more manic/ obsessive /controlling /compulsive (think: "Pluto on speed.") Inconjuncts are often active in death charts. I'm experimenting with the quindecile which seems active, too. Look at the grid and follow along:

SUN (Haleigh) inconjunct SATURN (death)

MOON (the action) inconjunct MARS (violence/rape/murder, etc.) Also notice the MOON is beseiged (trapped) between malefic SOUTH NODE and SATURN. This is a very bad placement for MOON. I've ignored CERES here because we do not consider CERES in beseigement.

VENUS (Haleigh) quindecile SATURN (death). Very, very bad marker.

JUPITER (Ronald) inconjunct CERES (Misty the caretaker/babysitter). He is furious with her for *letting* his daughter get stolen.

SATURN (death) inconjunct CHIRON exact conjunct SUN conjunct NEPTUNE (damage/hurt/disappearance of Haleigh resulting in death)

URANUS quindecile Midheaven (something sudden, shocking, uncontrollable hurled into light)

NEPTUNE quindecile malefic SOUTH NODE (death marker)

NEPTUNE quindecile VERTEX (death marker)

CERES (Misty as caretaker/babysitter) inconjunct NORTH NODE (fated and unwanted encounter with public)


This chart is sickening and heartbreaking.

Thanks,
Soulscape

First: This just breaks my heart. I am praying that the charts are incorrect.

Second: Thank you Soulscape for a step by step explanation. I think of myself as a kindergardner(?)(see I can't even spell) and my teacher just gave me some one on one time. LOL And Thank you everyone for all your hard work. And taking the time to help the ones that want to learn but are having a tuff time comprehending. :blowkiss:

Sandy

[beckaroozie]

Another thought, Tuba!

Kaitland's chart was for 5:15 pm
Your moonrise chart was for 6:32 pm

So, Kaleigh was taken between 5:15 pm and 6:32 pm, that narrows "IT" down.

I thought the same thing Love! Great reasoning!

[Lovejac]

OK...just watching Greta....Misty/girlfriend said at about 5pm the AC person, her brother and a few of his friends came over. Greta asked about how long they were there..when did they leave and Misty said they left about 5:30 p.m.

Could the AC person be friends with Misty's brother OR related or known by one of the brothers' friends? Just find it interesting that they were all there at the same time.

Thoughts anyone?

[beckaroozie]

I'm sorry I have never posted before on this thread although I do read it everyday.

This was posted on the general discussion thread by Ibyounger.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

It is the police report and has DOB's listed for witnesses. If you need to delete or need me to delete this let me know :blowkiss:

((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))) Kat for helping out!! Please don't be a stranger on the thread! We appreciate your help! Welcome! :blowkiss:

[Soulscape]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/TESMeetstoSearch007.jpg

This is for convening the searching this morning. Very significant, Saturn took rulership of the hour at precisely 9:30 a.m.


Tuba, I generally don't get urges to vomit when reading one of your charts but this chart was an exception.

I ran your chart thru my software to find SUN/MOON 20:55 Sag parallel BLACK MOON LILITH applying within 2 minutes of Arc, and Part of Death at 15:52 Taurus conj. 2nd House cusp opposite 8th House of Death and inconjunct the MOON, Part of MISfortune in radix 8th House of Death trining VENUS the Child in woefull 12th House, malefic SOUTH NODE in 5th House of the Child.

I am sickened beyond words. I fear what will be found is a dead child.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[Lovejac]

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/TESMeetstoSearch007.jpg

This is for convening the searching this morning. Very significant, Saturn took rulership of the hour at precisely 9:30 a.m.

Tuba, forgive me for pestering, but I am beside myself thinking that Haleigh has been going through this horror since Monday!

She was alive for this 9:30 am chart, But I notice your mention of turning fatal at 8 degree aries, fatal as in, end of her life? Is there a time for this?

I'm so sorry for my obsession, but this chart has my stomach in knots.

[KAITLAND]

Thanks Soulscape for posting those charts. I am only going to comment briefly on Ronald, Sr. (I am so far behind in chores and getting ready for trip. Have to work all weekend, and part of next week, so I might not get to post very much between now & Wednesday night.)

The major change in his chart with new b'date of 10/29/83:

Moon placement is not in Gemini/part of mutable T-square.

The Moon placement is Leo, a fixed, unyielding and proud sign. By square, it afflicts his Pluto/Merc/Sun/Saturn all in possessive, demanding, and at times vengeful Scorpio. Mercury has moved from gentle Libra, into forceful Scorpio (even more curse words!) So the remarks in my previous post (on the old birth data) still hold true for his relationship to women and style of communicating. Perhaps now, even more so, as it is no longer mutable (pliable, changeable) and is now rigidly fixed.

The mars/venus conjunction is a few degrees later in Virgo and still in T-square aspect to N. Node in Gemini opposite Uranus/Jupiter in Sag, with Neptune on the fringe.

The 4th/10th house cusps (sunrise placement only) are in tighter conjunction to the eclipse of Jan 26th. The other house cusps remain the same

I will update the old post when I can....or bring it forward with the changes.

Let us hope we now have the right b'days!

Thanks to all of our great sleuths. You guys are the best!!!

[Lovejac]

FWIW, I also think the whole **back door propped open with a cinder block** is of NO signifigance. I believe Misty staged that.

[beckaroozie]

FWIW, I also think the whole **back door propped open with a cinder block** is of NO signifigance. I believe Misty staged that.

Me too Love -- I thought that since I read Tuba's Moon Rise chart earlier today. That Haleigh was abducted much earlier than reported...sometime before 6:30, and that Misty was freaked out that Ronald would kill her for letting it happen (not her fault - his perception). She probably sweated all those hours cooking up what she'd tell him so he wouldn't yell at her, and that's what she arrived at...the cinderblock and the abduction from bed.

I think one of her brother's friends took Haleigh...either that or she was distracted with the visitors and someone (an acquaintance or friend) took her. I sincerely hope that LE has interviewed her brother and these 'friends'.

[Lovejac]

Me too Love -- I thought that since I read Tuba's Moon Rise chart earlier today. That Haleigh was abducted much earlier than reported...sometime before 6:30, and that Misty was freaked out that Ronald would kill her for letting it happen (not her fault - his perception). She probably sweated all those hours cooking up what she'd tell him so he wouldn't yell at her, and that's what she arrived at...the cinderblock and the abduction from bed.

I think one of her brother's friends took Haleigh...either that or she was distracted with the visitors and someone (an acquaintance or friend) took her. I sincerely hope that LE has interviewed her brother and these 'friends'.

Your entire post is what I think also.

What sickens me is the thought that things would have been different if she had not waited until 3:30 am, and gave the evil sick-o so much time to get as far as he needed too.

Also, I imagine the dogs that tracked her scent would have better luck if the trail hadn't been 15 hours old.

[Jersey*Girl]

FWIW, I also think the whole **back door propped open with a cinder block** is of NO signifigance. I believe Misty staged that.

I am now leaning towards this, also.:frown:

[Jersey*Girl]

Me too Love -- I thought that since I read Tuba's Moon Rise chart earlier today. That Haleigh was abducted much earlier than reported...sometime before 6:30, and that Misty was freaked out that Ronald would kill her for letting it happen (not her fault - his perception). She probably sweated all those hours cooking up what she'd tell him so he wouldn't yell at her, and that's what she arrived at...the cinderblock and the abduction from bed.

I think one of her brother's friends took Haleigh...either that or she was distracted with the visitors and someone (an acquaintance or friend) took her. I sincerely hope that LE has interviewed her brother and these 'friends'.

Do you think it would help if we searched for the brothers' birthdates?

[KAITLAND]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovejac
Another thought, Tuba!

Kaitland's chart was for 5:15 pm
Your moonrise chart was for 6:32 pm

So, Kaleigh was taken between 5:15 pm and 6:32 pm, that narrows "IT" down.

I thought the same thing Love! Great reasoning!
__________________
KC found her pot of gold in others pockets.


snipped.

Not necessarily taken between those time frames. Tuba's chart turned the spotlight on the stage for the crime to take place; the machinations of which were probably already in motion, i.e., company in the house, workman in the house, distractions, past documentation of drug usage in this family, and CPA issues. My chart showed a little more about the people in the house before bedtime. Highly unstable environment.

We do not have a clear time line yet for when Haleigh was last seen by anyone other than her father (before he left for work) and Misty (when she put her to bed at 8pm? or 10pm?) . No public statement from Misty's brother or friends as to the location of Haleigh during their visit. No statement from the A/C man. However, if she was already gone at that time - I think the A/C man would have spilled those beans already. Surely LP would have found out!! HE, is conspicuously quiet, except for the $$ offer.

Soulscape did an analysis of the last seen chart for 10pm.

Tuba -if you meant otherwise, please pipe up!

[beckaroozie]

Do you think it would help if we searched for the brothers' birthdates?

Do we have their names Jersey? Were they in the police report?

[beckaroozie]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lovejac
Another thought, Tuba!

Kaitland's chart was for 5:15 pm
Your moonrise chart was for 6:32 pm

So, Kaleigh was taken between 5:15 pm and 6:32 pm, that narrows "IT" down.

I thought the same thing Love! Great reasoning!
__________________
KC found her pot of gold in others pockets.


snipped.

Not necessarily taken between those time frames. Tuba's chart turned the spotlight on the stage for the crime to take place; the machinations of which were probably already in motion, i.e., company in the house, workman in the house, distractions, past documentation of drug usage in this family, and CPA issues. My chart showed a little more about the people in the house before bedtime. Highly unstable environment.

We do not have a clear time line yet for when Haleigh was last seen by anyone other than her father (before he left for work) and Misty (when she put her to bed at 8pm? or 10pm?) . No public statement from Misty's brother or friends as to the location of Haleigh during their visit. No statement from the A/C man. However, if she was already gone at that time - I think the A/C man would have spilled those beans already. Surely LP would have found out!! HE, is conspicuously quiet, except for the $$ offer.

Soulscape did an analysis of the last seen chart for 10pm.

Tuba -if you meant otherwise, please pipe up!

You're right Kait - thanks for bringing us down to earth lol. As I understand it from Misty's words (if we can believe it!) is that the visitors and the repairman had all left by 5:30?

[KAITLAND]

I thought the same thing Love! Great reasoning!

Tuba, I generally don't get urges to vomit when reading one of your charts but this chart was an exception.

I ran your chart thru my software to find SUN/MOON 20:55 Sag parallel BLACK MOON LILITH applying within 2 minutes of Arc, and Part of Death at 15:52 Taurus conj. 2nd House cusp opposite 8th House of Death and inconjunct the MOON, Part of MISfortune in radix 8th House of Death trining VENUS the Child in woefull 12th House, malefic SOUTH NODE in 5th House of the Child.

I am sickened beyond words. I fear what will be found is a dead child.

Thanks,
Soulscape


On HLN commentary tonight one of the experts commented that if this crime happened as Misty claims it did, and the perpetrator entered the home and took Haleigh from the same room that two other people were sleeping in, then we are dealing with a very, very dangerous and usually homicidal sexual predator. This was a high risk abduction, and an inexperienced person would not attempt such brazeness.

They also talked about the high likelihood that the household floor plan and set us was known to the perpetrator - no bumbling about in the dark with chance of waking someone up. He knew their habits, and where the child would be.

I share your fear. Let's pray to be wrong this time.

[Drivenon]

On HLN commentary tonight one of the experts commented that if this crime happened as Misty claims it did, and the perpetrator entered the home and took Haleigh from the same room that two other people were sleeping in, then we are dealing with a very, very dangerous and usually homicidal sexual predator. This was a high risk abduction, and an inexperienced person would not attempt such brazeness.

They also talked about the high likelihood that the household floor plan and set us was known to the perpetrator - no bumbling about in the dark with chance of waking someone up. He knew their habits, and where the child would be.

I share your fear. Let's pray to be wrong this time.

I maybe repeating myself, but this is sadly what I believe happened. It is rare, but in the right conditions, not so much. I pray they find her.

[beckaroozie]

I just wanted to say thank you from the bottom of my heart to all the SuperAstros for the awesome charts and work for Haleigh. Housemouse, Soulscape, Tuba, Kaitland, AKSleuth...all of you are the best, and we appreciate you. You continually amaze us. :blowkiss:

[Soulscape]

My comments in red:


FWIW, I also think the whole **back door propped open with a cinder block** is of NO signifigance. I believe Misty staged that.


No.



Me too Love -- I thought that since I read Tuba's Moon Rise chart earlier today. That Haleigh was abducted much earlier than reported...sometime before 6:30, and that Misty was freaked out that Ronald would kill her for letting it happen (not her fault - his perception). She probably sweated all those hours cooking up what she'd tell him so he wouldn't yell at her, and that's what she arrived at...the cinderblock and the abduction from bed.


No.



I think one of her brother's friends took Haleigh...either that or she was distracted with the visitors and someone (an acquaintance or friend) took her. I sincerely hope that LE has interviewed her brother and these 'friends'.


I'm reserving judgement on this one, although the Charts seem to repeat the *friend* angle...



Your entire post is what I think also.

What sickens me is the thought that things would have been different if she had not waited until 3:30 am, and gave the evil sick-o so much time to get as far as he needed too.

Also, I imagine the dogs that tracked her scent would have better luck if the trail hadn't been 15 hours old.


No, I do not think she waited with secret knowledge.



I am now leaning towards this, also.:frown:


No, see above.



On HLN commentary tonight one of the experts commented that if this crime happened as Misty claims it did, and the perpetrator entered the home and took Haleigh from the same room that two other people were sleeping in, then we are dealing with a very, very dangerous and usually homicidal sexual predator. This was a high risk abduction, and an inexperienced person would not attempt such brazeness.

They also talked about the high likelihood that the household floor plan and set us was known to the perpetrator - no bumbling about in the dark with chance of waking someone up. He knew their habits, and where the child would be.

I share your fear. Let's pray to be wrong this time.



Yes. While Misty may have confused herself regarding the time she put Haleigh to bed, I believe she did in fact put the child to bed and I believe she did not realize Haleigh was gone until she woke up around 3:00 am on 2/10/09.

While it is possible all of the Astrologers including myself have misread the charts, it is unlikely. I have another chart I will share with you tomorrow, as sickening as the ones we have looked at today, that supports what I am saying. I am too tired to stay up and post it now.

Thanks,
Soulscape

[static]

My comments in red:





No.






I'm reserving judgement on this one, although the Charts seem to repeat the *friend* angle...






No, I do not think she waited with secret knowledge.






No, see above.







Yes. While Misty may have confused herself regarding the time she put Haleigh to bed, I believe she did in fact put the child to bed and I believe she did not realize Haleigh was gone until she woke up around 3:00 am on 2/10/09.

While it is possible all of the Astrologers including myself have misread the charts, it is unlikely. I have another chart I will share with you tomorrow, as sickening as the ones we have looked at today, that supports what I am saying. I am too tired to stay up and post it now.

Thanks,
Soulscape

Do you see anywhere where drugs where being done ? I was thinking they were smoking something or drinking something and believe Mistie may have zonked out for a few hours, maybe (pot) was laced with something. After seeing her brother's myspace page with the pot leafs all over it and the police report on Ron(meth) Just seems like this may be someone who frequents the house and either sells or uses drugs with mistie and ron... please correct me if I am way off base but, the heavy feeling of complete disorientation(drug induced) is so prominent to me in these charts...

[Lovejac]

Thank you for your post, Soulscape. I've obviously jumped the gun, not having read/studied all of the charts. Misty just needs to come clean with what she is hiding. I had hoped that her fear of LE would outweigh her fear of Ronald, but that doesn't seem to be the case........at least YET.

I am just sickened by this entire situation. A 17 yo (child herself IMO) responsible for 2 young children. This entire situation stinks to high heaven. The turmoil Kaleigh has already had in her short little life.........and to have it end like this, well, it just breaks my heart.

[petresq_algc]

Is there any way that I chart can be done for this man and compared to Haleigh's to see if they overlap in any way? This is a registered sex predator who has served time in prison for acts performed on a child < 12. He was last seen on Feb. 1st at a Walmart in the county just north of Haleigh. His mother was the last one to speak to him at 2:15 a.m. on Feb. 2nd. She reported him missing on Feb. 5th.

DOB: 6/18/83

Short article
http://www.ocala.com/article/20090213/articles/902130269

The timing of this man's disappearance compared to Haleigh's is just too coincidental for me.

[Angel Who Cares]

I'm praying with you Lovejac.

Thank you for being so warm and inviting to my post. I do not aspire to learn forensic astrology but when I sign on to WS this forum is my first visit every morning.

I have come to deeply admire and respect the work of so many here. My gratitude is not only for the time and dedication they give in providing charts but there consideration in translating those charts for us that do not understand. I am humbled and grateful to each and every one of you :blowkiss:

I thought that perhaps when a chart is drawn up that the birth place might be needed? I hope I am not presuming too much about how these charts are constructed.

I found an article today in which Misty talked about herself.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130293/1008/WEATHER?Title=Misty_Croslin__who_was_watching_Hale igh__tells_about_herself

Of course it is very interesting but she stated that her state of birth was Michigan.

It goes on to tell a bit about her life up until she came to be at the home with Haleigh. I hope this can help too.

Kat You have a lot to offer to the super astro's information is needed in order for them to do the charts. We in turn by getting information such as birthdates, interviews, docs etc. get to benefit from reading the charts. Then we get to learn from comparing the charts to thier explanation of it in thier posts!

It takes teamwork from all of us for this forum to work so PLEASE stop by more often & post what you find. It's sad with so many cases we need everyone's help in case it's something one of us missed.

Thank You to everyone who has posted needed information to help find Haleigh! :blowkiss:

:rose: :rose: HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY TO EVERYONE!" :rose: :rose:
:angel:

[Angel Who Cares]

snipped from Soulscape:
Misty Croslin was born 12/9/91 in Michigan. I have used Lansing as that is a central city in Michigan. I think it will be close enough for our purposes. We could also experiment with a chart relocated to Satsuma for her.

Great minds think alike SS! I was thinking either Lansing or maybe Flint. Either way it should be close enough.



Maybe Angel and some of our other "up North" friends can think about her accent - but honestly, I thought she had a hint of southern....

From the voice of accents in Michigan & not to offend anyone here, but Misty has an accent/word choices that is found a lot around the city of Tayor, MI. We call them "Tayortuckins"! Well known if you are from Michigan that they all have the country accent when they have or lived in Taylor. JMO

P.S. This is not meant to offend anyone...when I visit my relatives in CA, FL, & NC they tell me I have an accent! LOL

I'll see if I can dig up anything here from her family in any court records like tickets, police reports etc. KAITLAND!

I'll be busy later today with my grandkids for Valentine's so that my daughter & fiancee can go out. (Which she needs after losing her job Thursday due the economy :( ! )

[aksleuth]

My comments in red:



I'm reserving judgement on this one, although the Charts seem to repeat the *friend* angle...



No, I do not think she waited with secret knowledge.



Yes. While Misty may have confused herself regarding the time she put Haleigh to bed, I believe she did in fact put the child to bed and I believe she did not realize Haleigh was gone until she woke up around 3:00 am on 2/10/09.

While it is possible all of the Astrologers including myself have misread the charts, it is unlikely. I have another chart I will share with you tomorrow, as sickening as the ones we have looked at today, that supports what I am saying. I am too tired to stay up and post it now.

Thanks,
Soulscape



I tend to agree with you, Soulscape. While trying to figure out how a child could be kidnapped from a mobile home in the middle of the night, with others sleeping in the same room, I surveyed Mistie's comments, as incompatible as they are. Also, looking at what we've been told by sleuths in the know (unstable mobile homes and their noise factor, deadbolt locks) plus activity at the home after the father left for work, I'm looking at this:

She said people were over earlier, 5-5:30ish. She said she put the children to bed 8-10pm, she was then doing laundry before she herself went to bed.

Like I've said before, mobile homes are noisy, double-wides included. The racket from the washing machine alone is highly distracting. She may also have had the television on (loud enough to hear over the washer), or music playing. Now if someone had been to the home, saw the child, knew the layout of the place, he could have easily set the door himself for entry later. Mistie probably didn't recheck the door because it was Ronald's routine to lock that door before he left. We're talking about a young girl, overwhelmed by the young kids, plus visitors, so the urgency of checking that door, like most of us would have done, didn't exist.

I'm thinking the perp came into the house while Mistie was occupied in another room, washing machine shaking the place, TV on, she's folding clothes, putting them away, going to the bathroom herself. Any number of things that could get her away from where Haleigh lay asleep. When Mistie finally retired, she didn't check on Haleigh, assuming she was where she was supposed to be, in bed asleep, perhaps with covers over a teddy bear or doll or pillow to make it appear she was still there in the dark.

What bothers me most about her story are the many versions of where they went to bed that night. Haleigh in a room alone, or with her brother, joined by Mistie, in bed with Mistie, in bed with her brother........ and so on. Was Mistie on some sort of drug or alcohol to blur her memory? Did someone else come to visit later, after the kids were in bed, an "innocent" visit, just to chat, and perhaps given Mistie something in her drink to make her groggy enough not to notice when Mistie eventually disappeared? When Mistie awoke at 3am her mind was alert enough to see the child was absent. Where did Mistie really sleep before 3am? In the living room? Did Mistie herself leave the kitchen light on?

Or should we look at the fact that Mistie seems ditsy and the possibility that she lives naturally in a state of brain fog, including cigarette smoke. That could eliminate a late evening visitor and explain why she doesn't know where they were sleeping, allowing for someone to sneak into the house when she was in natural fog.

This is what I've been working on.

There was a SCREEN door attached to the back door, so that means the back door opens to the inside of the house. That makes sense with the theory of the lock being opened ahead of time. If the door opened outwardly, it would have been more easily noticed if the door was propped unlocked against the jamb. So this fits with the theory someone opened and set the door ahead of the abduction. The same person probably DID put the cinder block to hold open that screen door just before he entered to snatch Haleigh.

[aksleuth]

From the voice of accents in Michigan & not to offend anyone here, but Misty has an accent/word choices that is found a lot around the city of Tayor, MI. We call them "Tayortuckins"! Well known if you are from Michigan that they all have the country accent when they have or lived in Taylor. JMO


Offense shouldn't be taken by anyone. Most areas of the country produce "accents". There are people who study those accents and have been successful in helping amnesiacs find their families or their roots! Our accents are very important. :) It could be extremely useful in astrology, too. Or when catching shady folks in a lie. :wink:

I get questioned all the time, "Where are you from: New Jersey, :eek: Pennsylvania, Ohio? Nope. I've always lived in the Deep South. However, some of my ancestors were from those states and I believe that's where my accent originates. Genetics, maybe? Now this doesn't mean my New Orleans Yat never rears its head. :crazy"

[nanny1]

Salem, Kat, Nanny 1 and Jersey Girl, I cannot express my gratitude enough for you guys rushing over here to give our Super Astro's Misty's dob.

I feel so proud to be part of so much love and concern for yet another innocent child in the middle of a crisis.

Sorry if I'm being too mushy, I am just so overwhelmed with sadness after reading Tuba's chart for 2/13/09 9:30 am.

To think that Kaleigh is still going through this horror while everyone was looking for her just breaks my heart.

Please pray with me that LE finds the answers they need to find her before she's gone from this world>

I am on my knees praying beside you Lovejac.

Thank you for what you Ladies do. I read here daily and think,your all awsome.

[aksleuth]

Ronald Cummings "rap" sheet


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Ron sure has quite a rap sheet! WOW Oh my god those poor kids have been exposed to all of this going on & he still had custody???? :furious: :cry:
:angel:



OMG! Sweet. Real sweet. :eek:

Thanks for bringing it here, Angel.


Several residents said that drug use is common.
"There ain't much else to do around here," said 20-year-old Matthew Ross, who runs the local barber shop with his brother.

Well, isn't that something? :mad:

[nanny1]

Did this post get carried over here for you to look at?

Courtesy of Windchime:

Ronald Cummings "rap" sheet

Today, 08:29 PM
WindChime
Administrator Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 6,349

First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.147.1 MISDEMEANOR - POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA Gender M

12 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6B MISDEMEANOR - POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA Gender M

13 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA (MORE THAN 20 GRAMS) Gender M

14 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES (OTHER THAN COCAINE, HEROIN, OPIUM, OR MARIJUANA) Gender M

15 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS METHAMPHETAMINE Gender M

16 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS MDMA Gender M

17 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS GHB Gender M

18 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A OPIUM - POSSESSION (LESS THAN 10 GRAMS) Gender M

19 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A HEROIN - POSSESSION (LESS THAN 10 GRAMS) Gender

20 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A COCAINE - POSSESSION Gender M

21 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0499.03 Gender M

22 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-10-23 Source State FL
Offense 0784.011 MISDEMEANOR - ASSAULT Gender M

23 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-01-02 Source State FL
Offense 0784.011 MISDEMEANOR - ASSAULT Gender M

24 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-05-20 Source State FL
Offense 0569.11.1 Gender M

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Ron sure has quite a rap sheet! WOW Oh my god those poor kids have been exposed to all of this going on & he still had custody???? :furious: :cry:
:angel:


WOW !! That's all I can say.:eek:

[Angel Who Cares]

aksleuth, beckaroozie, Lovejac, & whoever can help here is a link to look up others involved to see if they have criminal records! There were quite a few with the last name Cummings....his mother, brothers maybe???

Put in Cummings% into the name search to get to the records. If someone else you want to look into do the same just add the % after the last name!

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/ext_app_sec/public_menu.php

[nanny1]

Here are more that Windchime didn't have included:


UCN: 542004CF002063XXAXMX
File Date: 2004-11-16 Judge: A W NICHOLS III
Defense Atty: FELICIANO, SHARON
Defendant
CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES
Date # Docket Description
2004-11-16 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO EDGAR (ARREST 11/12/04)
2004-11-16 1 POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS OF 20 GRAMS
2004-11-16 1 POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA
2004-11-16 1 MAINTAINING A DRUG VEHICLE
2004-11-16 3 TRAFFIC CITATION - #7877-DBJ 2
2004-11-16 4 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2004-11-16 5 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING
2004-11-16 6 APPEARANCE BOND - UNSECURED $ 2,012
2004-12-03 7 INFORMATION (CT 1-POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS
2004-12-03 7 OF 20 GRAMS)
2004-12-07 8 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-07-2005)
2005-01-07 9 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT PRESENT, SWORN, ARRAIGNED,
2005-01-07 9 PUBLIC DEFENDER APPOINTED, ENTERED PLEA OF NOT GUILTY,
2005-01-07 9 SET FOR PRE TRIAL 02/03/2005.
2005-01-07 10 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS
2005-01-07 10 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED INDIGENT
2005-01-25 17 PUBLIC DEFENDER, DEFT SCREENED BY TREATMENT AND DEEMED
2005-01-25 17 APPROPRIATE FOR DRUG COURT, DEFT DECLINED THE DRUG COURT
2005-02-03 18 ADI - LEVEL II
2005-03-03 20 DEFT SWORN, W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C, ADVISED
2005-03-03 20 MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE, PSI WAIVED,
2005-03-03 20 PLEA ACCEPTED, SENTENCING SET SAME DAY
2005-03-03 20 ADJUDICATION OF GUILT WITHHELD
2005-03-03 20 $370.00 COURT COSTS (6 MONTHS TO PAY)
2005-03-03 20 ADI PROGRAM - LEVEL II
2005-09-08 21 CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF ADI LEVEL II PROGRAM
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Date # Docket Description
2006-11-14 1 TRAFFIC CITATION - #6417-EEN 3 PCSO OFF/MANNING
2006-11-14 1 LEAVING THE SCENE OF ACCIDENT INVOLVING INJURIES
2006-12-12 2 MOTION TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT
2006-12-19 3 ORDER TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT
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2006-08-01 1 ARREST REPORT - PCSO/ MAY (ARREST 07-29-2006)
2006-08-01 1 TRESPASS
2006-08-01 2 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY
2006-08-01 3 $504.00 CHUCK'S BAIL BOND POSTED - #00601638 07-29-06
2006-08-11 4 INFORMATION (TRESPASS)
2006-08-31 6 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES, ADJ INS P D APPT MACK BRUNTON
2006-08-31 6 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 10/04/2006
2006-08-31 7 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS
2006-08-31 7 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED INDIGENT
2006-08-31 7 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED
2006-08-31 8 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2006-08-31 9 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (10-04-2006)
2006-09-06 10 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (10-04-2006)
2006-10-04 11 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY MACK BRUNTON
2006-10-04 11 STATE AND DEFENSE ANNOUNCED READY FOR TRIAL
2006-10-04 11 CASE SET FOR NON JURY TRIAL 10/30/2006
2006-10-04 12 WAIVER OF JURY TRIAL
2006-10-04 13 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (10-30-2006)
2006-10-06 14 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (10-30-2006)
2006-10-10 15 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
2006-10-10 15 WILLIAM P MORRIS
2006-10-10 16 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA ISSUED:
2006-10-10 16 DS JOHN MAY
2006-10-16 17 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
2006-10-16 17 WILLIAM P MORRIS
2006-10-16 18 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
2006-10-16 18 DS JOHN MAY
2006-10-16 20 STATE ATTORNEY WITNESS SUBPOENA RETURNED SERVED:
2006-10-16 19 MS. TAMMY PINKNEY
2006-10-26 21 AMENDED INFO (TRESPASS ON PROPERTY OTHER THAN A
2006-10-26 21 STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE)
2006-10-30 22 TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES ATT BY MACK BRUNTON
2006-10-30 22 FOR NON JURY TRIAL- STATE REP BY DAVID HOLLANDER
2006-10-30 22 DEFT W-DREW FORMER PLEA - ENT PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE
2006-10-30 22 TO TRESPASS, DEFT SWORN, PLEA ACCEPTED,
2006-10-30 22 ADJUDGED GUILTY
2006-10-30 22 PROB HRDS 6 MONTHS
2006-10-30 22 1 DAY PCJ WITH CREDIT FOR TIME SERVED OF 1 DAY
2006-10-30 22 $273.00 FINE AND COST
2006-10-30 22 $ 40.00 PD FEE SUSPENDED
2006-10-30 22 RANDOM DRUG TEST
2006-10-30 23 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO
2006-10-30 23 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT
2006-10-30 24 ORDER OF PROBATION
2007-01-17 25 $ 60.00 FINE AND COST PAYMENT 11/14/2006
2007-02-07 26 SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION
2007-02-14 27 $120.00 FINE AND COST PAYMENT 12/28/2006
2007-03-16 28 $ 93.00 FINE AND COST BAL PAID 01/25/2007
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2006-11-14 1 TRAFFIC CITATION - #6417EEN-3 PCSO/ MANNING 10-30-06
2006-11-14 1 LEAVING THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT
2006-12-12 2 MOTION TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT
2006-12-19 3 ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO TRANSFER CASE TO COUNTY COURT
2006-12-19 3 FROM CIRCUIT COURT 06-002339-CF53
2006-12-19 4 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-23-2007)
2007-01-02 5 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED - NO SUCH NUMBER
2007-01-05 6 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (01-23-2007)
2007-01-12 7 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED - NO SUCH NUMBER
2007-01-23 8 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: DEFT NOT PRESENT IN COURT
2007-01-23 8 COURT ORDERED CAPIAS
2007-01-23 8 BOND SET AT $1004 FIRM
2007-01-23 9 CAPIAS ISSUED - BOND SET AT $1004 FIRM
2007-01-25 10 CAPIAS RECALLED - CASE SET FOR ARRAIGNMENT 02/06/2007
2007-01-25 10 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (02-06-2007) IN OFFICE
2007-01-25 11 CHANGE OF ADDRESS
2007-01-26 12 CAPIAS RETURNED
2007-02-06 13 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: ON MOTION OF THE STATE OF FLORIDA THE
2007-02-06 13 THE CASE WAS ORDERED NOLLE PROSEQUI IN OPEN COURT
2007-02-06 13 INFRACTION DISMISSED CIT # 6416EEN2 - CARELESS DRIVING
2007-02-06 13 INFRACTION DISMISSED CIT # 6418EEN4 - OPERATE ATV
2007-02-06 13 W/O HELMET
2007-02-06 14 WAIVER OF COUNSEL
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2007-04-03 1 COMPLAINT FILED: PCSO/ WALTER 04-02-07
2007-04-03 1 AFFRAY
2007-04-23 2 INFORMATION (AFFRAY)
2007-04-23 3 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (05/10/2007)CERTIFIED
2007-05-10 4 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: COURT ORDERED CASE CONTINUED
2007-05-10 4 TO NEXT ARRAIGNMENT 06/12/2007
2007-05-10 5 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (06-12-2007)
2007-05-18 6 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED - UNCLAIMED
2007-06-12 7 ARRAIGNMENT MINUTES: COURT ORDERED CASE CONTINUED
2007-06-12 7 TO NEXT ARRAIGNMENT 07/12/2007
2007-06-12 8 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-12-2007)
2007-06-14 9 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (07-12-2007) IN OFFICE
2007-07-12 10 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES, ADJ INS P D APPT MACK BRUNTON
2007-07-12 10 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOT GUILTY - PRE TRIAL SET 08/22/2007
2007-07-12 11 AFFIDAVIT OF INDIGENT STATUS
2007-07-12 11 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED INDIGENT
2007-07-12 11 $40.00 APPLICATION FEE IMPOSED
2007-07-12 12 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER
2007-07-12 13 PRE-TRIAL ORDER (08-22-2007)
2007-08-22 14 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY MACK BRUNTON
2007-08-22 14 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE
2007-08-22 14 CONTINUED TO 09/19/2007
2007-08-22 15 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (09-19-2007) IN COURT
2007-09-19 16 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFERRED PROSECUTION AGREEMENT FILED
2007-09-19 16 AND ACCEPTED
2007-09-19 17 DEFERRED PROSECUTION AGREEMENT
2007-09-19 17 10 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE
2007-09-19 17 $50.00 COST OF PROSECUTION
2007-09-28 18 MEMO FROM HRDS: DEFT COMPLETED THE CONDITIONS OF HIS
2007-09-28 18 PRE-TRIAL DIVERSION PROGRAM
2007-10-18 19 NOTICE OF SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF DEFERRED
2007-10-18 19 PROSECUTION AGREEMENT
2007-11-28 20 $100.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE 09/18/2007
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2007-11-14 1 WILDLIFE CITATION - #132466-C GFFC/ EASON 11-02-07
2007-11-14 1 POSSESSION OF MODERN FIREARM DURING MUZZLELOADING
2007-11-14 1 SEASON
2007-11-14 1 TRESPASS
2007-11-14 2 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (12-18-2007)
2007-11-29 3 NOTICE RETURNED UNEXECUTED
2007-11-29 4 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (12/18/2007)CORRECT ADDRESS
2007-12-18 5 ARR MIN: DEFT PRES IN COURT WAIVING RIGHT TO COUNSEL
2007-12-18 5 ARR ENT PLEA OF NOLO CONTENDERE TO CT I - POSS OF
2007-12-18 5 MODERN FIREARM DURING MUZZELOADING SEASON - CT II -
2007-12-18 5 TRESPASS - NOLLE PROSEQUI - DEFT SWORN, PLEA ACCEPTED
2007-12-18 5 DEFENDANT ADJUDGED GUILTY
2007-12-18 5 $273.00 FINE AND COST SUSPENDED
2007-12-18 5 24 HOURS HOUSE ARREST
2007-12-18 6 WAIVER OF COUNSEL
2007-12-18 7 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO
2007-12-18 7 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT
2008-01-08 8 JUDGMENT AND SENTENCE CT I


Sorry all I got tired of trying to edit all of these to only post what was needed...TOO LONG OF A RAP SHEET! :eek:
WOW does this guy Ron have a rap sheet....here are more I found!

How on earth did this person get custody ? What's scarey is he stated the court found him to be the better parent,that's how he got custody..

[Jersey*Girl]

Do we have their names Jersey? Were they in the police report?

I found them somewhere...give me some time to look. I'll post the names and then look for their birth data.

[Mary]

Good morning to all you dedicated forensic astrologers and data sleuths. I am, as always, so impressed with your hard work and commitment. I am hung up on Misty (Mistie?) laundering blankets between 8-10 p.m. I posted all the logical questions that arose for me related to blankets in post number 227 on page 10 of the Marc Klass thread here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79631&page=10

Astrologically, I'm wondering 6th house or 12th house activity? Know what I mean? Soulscape and others ... your thoughts?

[Mary]

How on earth did this person get custody ? What's scarey is he stated the court found him to be the better parent,that's how he got custody..

Nanny, that's what he says. But she says he got custody because he had the notice of hearing sent to a bogus address that was not hers and that she wasn't notified of the hearing and so she did not appear. The judge's decision awarding custody to him states that she did not appear. So the judge, factually, made his decision based on a one-sided story. He did not get any chance to compare the two to decide who was the better parent.

[Angel Who Cares]

Can some get me the full names of Ronalds father (middle name) & his brothers full name? I found 1 with the name Jack which is Ronald's father's name I don't want to post them unless I know it is him. Jack Lestor Cummings has 11 in his rap sheet for possible father or could this be Ron's brothers name?

There is a name of a James Dean Cummings...What I do find interesting they both used one of the same Jail Bonds Co. that Ronald has used too!


Here's a post coutesy of Leila of a "Who's Who" in the case if I find more names to look into I'll post them here:

Single Post Link:
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[ROBLYN]

From the voice of accents in Michigan & not to offend anyone here, but Misty has an accent/word choices that is found a lot around the city of Tayor, MI. We call them "Tayortuckins"! Well known if you are from Michigan that they all have the country accent when they have or lived in Taylor. JMO

P.S. This is not meant to offend anyone...when I visit my relatives in CA, FL, & NC they tell me I have an accent! LOL

I'll see if I can dig up anything here from her family in any court records like tickets, police reports etc. KAITLAND!

I'll be busy later today with my grandkids for Valentine's so that my daughter & fiancee can go out. (Which she needs after losing her job Thursday due the economy :( ! )

Angel,

i respectfully agree with you on the area, Misty's 'accent' could be from that geographic location in Michigan.

[Lovejac]

Did this post get carried over here for you to look at?

Courtesy of Windchime:

Ronald Cummings "rap" sheet

Today, 08:29 PM
WindChime
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17 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS GHB Gender M


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Ron sure has quite a rap sheet! WOW Oh my god those poor kids have been exposed to all of this going on & he still had custody???? :furious: :cry:
:angel:


Snipped for space.

Happy Valentine's Day! Hope everyones day is filled with lots of love!!

Re: the part I bolded above:

Possession of GHB-----isn't that the "date rape" drug??

I am anxiously awaiting Soulscapes chart that she spoke about last night!