FL-AMBER ALERT Haleigh Cummings 5 yrs. old - Putnam County #10

[christine2448]

Continue here please.


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I am sad we all are meeting under these circumstances.

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[Jersey*Girl]

Ugh! I don't want to lose the general discussion threads here. I find not having general discussions a pain in the neck!! Running to find the "appropriate" thread is something we never had to do before until the "other" case. A "think tank" means to toss out various ideas spontaneously and we lose that part of sleuthing, imo.

I don't see a problem if someone wants to open a thread in the basement for links, but then our guests cannot view them which seems unfair.

Yes, I agree. What about a thread with NO discussion, only supply pertinent info with links, and NO duplicates...no thank you's or convo or anything. Just the facts, in order to keep it centralized.

[DazzlinDebSD]

It's unfortunate that we live in a world with predators that prey on our young innocent children. I have a horrible feeling about what's happened to this child. It just goes to show you that if somebody wants your child bad enough, they will stalk, and then go in for the kill as soon as you let your guard down, and it doesn't matter where you live. Danielle Van Dam lived one mile from my house in a high class neighborhood. Heleigh and Jess lived in a not so high class neighborhood and they were abducted. It's just heartbreaking that we have to live like this.

[mydailyopinions]

Thank you Christine!

[maureenv]

I hate to post something so morbid...but I hope they search the crawl spaces under ALL of the trailers there.

[AuburnJenn]

I'm not sure how good their word is, or if it's really been looked into

Exactly! For all we know, maybe they were there but Misti told them that Haleigh was asleep, playing in her room, was in time-out being punished, was outside playing, etc, and they never actually SAW her.

I can't keep all these underage pregnancies, kids, teens, sound-alike names straight. Is anyone actually married? Where are the real adults in this situation - grandparents, older aunts and uncles?

[SeriouslySearching]

TES and LE will search everywhere allowed by law. You can't go underneath people's homes without permission or a warrant, as far as I know.

[77NancyDrew]

Thanks Christine:blowkiss:

[mydailyopinions]

I still have a huge problem with Misty's statements..
She said in one interview that she got up to go to the bathroom, found the door open, then found Haleigh missing..
Then in another on the same day she said that Haleigh got up to go to the bathroom and when she didn't return, she got up to check on her..
Someone please tell me how she slept through someone coming in and taking this child out of her bed, but didn't sleep through the child getting up to go to the bathroom?

I see charges coming this weekend..

[christine2448]

Yes, I agree. What about a thread with NO discussion, only supply pertinent info with links, and NO duplicates...no thank you's or convo or anything. Just the facts, in order to keep it centralized.

That is an idea. Have one thread, here in missing section, so public can view, for all docs/pert links. There will be a forum if this continues. Then you will have it already here and I can just move it. Call it Haleigh Commings Pert Info NO DISCUSSION or something of the like?


I also agree with SS, gen discussion is great!

[Kat]

Sorry if this has already been posted.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130291/-1/news?Title=Search_will_broaden_for_Haleigh

snipped

"The search for Haleigh Cummings, 5, was approaching its 80th hour..."


"Other elements that emerged from the morning news conference:

* Investigators planned to conduct more interviews of relatives and others today. That includes some re-interviews. Hardy declined to list names, to talk about polygraph examinations or to say why people were being re-interviewed.

* All 44 registered sex offenders who live within a 5-mile radius of the Cummings home have either been interviewed or had their whereabouts confirmed.

* There were more than 100 volunteers on the ground and at least 50 law officers. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement officials on the ground were either veterans of these kinds of cases or have received special training - or both.

* Hardy declined to address the issue of whether Croslin - the girlfriend of Haleigh's father - has changed her story in any substantial way. First reports indicated that Croslin, who is 17, had been sleeping in the same bed as Haleigh. Later, the girlfriend said they were in the same room but different beds."

[maureenv]

TES and LE will search everywhere allowed by law. You can't go underneath people's homes without permission or a warrant, as far as I know.

I think I heard on NG, that all neighbors had opened their homes to LE.

[MeoW333]

I still have a huge problem with Misty's statements..
She said in one interview that she got up to go to the bathroom, found the door open, then found Haleigh missing..
Then in another on the same day she said that Haleigh got up to go to the bathroom and when she didn't return, she got up to check on her..
Someone please tell me how she slept through someone coming in and taking this child out of her bed, but didn't sleep through the child getting up to go to the bathroom?

I see charges coming this weekend..

I doubt she was home for any of it; she came home realized Haleigh missing, didn't call 911 right away, waited a half hour. If she had just woke up and realized it could potentially mean a predator still in the house, so first thing you'd think she'd do is call 911. So it sounds more like she walked upon the situation rather than woke up to it

[Kat]

Links to redacted 911 calls for those who are coming to the case late and wish to listen:

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090213/ARTICLES/902130948/-1/SPORTS0102?Title=Listen_now__The_911_call

[MyTinkieGirl]

OK, elle1919....it's the term "is not actually a bluff at all".....as per my sis....whom I quoted as giving me this info originally...yeah, that's it....I'll blame her!!
At any rate...."Buffalo Bluff" isn't ACTUALLY a "bluff" at all.....but as mentioned in TUBA's post....it's really "low lying ground with lots of growth"

Hope this makes sense.....it's "not actually a bluff at all". It's "low lying ground with lots of growth"....so basically, the places name is ambiguous....thus "Buffalo Bluff" isn't a bluff at all, just named that....I'll stop babbling.

[77NancyDrew]

I think I heard on NG, that all neighbors had opened their homes to LE.

Yes but did they let them look everywhere in there houses?
I know that Destiny Norton's killer let Le search his house as well, but told him the basement had never been used, since they moved in. Le turned around and got a search warrant.

[SeriouslySearching]

We could have news by the end of the day. If so, they will move forward with the investigation to declare it moved to Homicide case or keep it as a missing person case.

Evidence has been in the possession of LE for over 72 hours now and they should have some preliminary results to follow up on. They are not going to name POIs, Suspects, or make any arrests until they have some clear cut evidence pointing to the person/persons involved so the clock doesn't start running and they lawyer up.

[impatientredhead]

It's unfortunate that we live in a world with predators that prey on our young innocent children. I have a horrible feeling about what's happened to this child. It just goes to show you that if somebody wants your child bad enough, they will stalk, and then go in for the kill as soon as you let your guard down, and it doesn't matter where you live. Danielle Van Dam lived one mile from my house in a high class neighborhood. Heleigh and Jess lived in a not so high class neighborhood and they were abducted. It's just heartbreaking that we have to live like this.

The Van Dam case is the one that keeps coming to mind for me. The guy that lives next door only got out a year ago and he did a pretty long sentence. I would really like to know if he is at home, what his demeanor is like, or if he conveniently isn't around.

The other weird thing with the guy next door is no one (unless I have missed it) can find his court records, a news story about him, even his inmate number brings back nothing.

[SeriouslySearching]

That is an idea. Have one thread, here in missing section, so public can view, for all docs/pert links. There will be a forum if this continues. Then you will have it already here and I can just move it. Call it Haleigh Commings Pert Info NO DISCUSSION or something of the like?


I also agree with SS, gen discussion is great!:blowkiss: Great idea!

[swanniee11]

Can someone tell me what the g/f's brothers address is again? I can't remember where I saw it. Thanks

[elle1919]

OK, elle1919....it's the term "is not actually a bluff at all".....as per my sis....whom I quoted as giving me this info originally...yeah, that's it....I'll blame her!!
At any rate...."Buffalo Bluff" isn't ACTUALLY a "bluff" at all.....but as mentioned in TUBA's post....it's really "low lying ground with lots of growth"

lol....gotcha

[maureenv]

I doubt she was home for any of it; she came home realized Haleigh missing, didn't call 911 right away, waited a half hour. If she had just woke up and realized it could potentially mean a predator still in the house, so first thing you'd think she'd do is call 911. So it sounds more like she walked upon the situation rather than woke up to it

REALLY good point!

Also...does anyone think it possible that a family member thought Haleigh in potential danger, and removed her from the home? I only bring this up because of the recent story of the grandfather that took his 2 grandkids 20 years ago, and moved to Ca. The other reason is (in one of the threads or news stories) it was said that Child Protective were at the residence previously for unknown reasons. Sometimes a family member might feel that CPS isn't doing what needs to be done. Take matters into their own hands.

[Kat]

We could have news by the end of the day. If so, they will move forward with the investigation to declare it moved to Homicide case or keep it as a missing person case.

Evidence has been in the possession of LE for over 72 hours now and they should have some preliminary results to follow up on. They are not going to name POIs, Suspects, or make any arrests until they have some clear cut evidence pointing to the person/persons involved so the clock doesn't start running and they lawyer up.


SS is there a timeline in these types of cases where they make a declaration as you mentioned? I'm not familiar and was curious to know when they make the determinations to declare homicide or missing persons, and do you know what type of timeline would be used to decide when to scale back operations if she isn't found? TIA

[swanniee11]

not sure if everyone read this

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,492425,00.html

[SeriouslySearching]

REALLY good point!

Also...does anyone think it possible that a family member thought Haleigh in potential danger, and removed her from the home? I only bring this up because of the recent story of the grandfather that took his 2 grandkids 20 years ago, and moved to Ca. The other reason is (in one of the threads or news stories) it was said that Child Protective were at the residence previously for unknown reasons. Sometimes a family member might feel that CPS isn't doing what needs to be done. Take matters into their own hands.Why wouldn't they also take her little brother? :waitasec:

[77NancyDrew]

not sure if everyone read this

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,492425,00.html

No, but I heard the sheriff touch on that at the presser this morning.

[PattyCake]

not sure if everyone read this

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,492425,00.html

wow, the LE does use the word 'cleared' with the SO's. At least all of the cooperated and allowed LE to search all their properties. Goodness, this poor child.

[77NancyDrew]

Why wouldn't they also take her little brother? :waitasec:

I wonder why a stranger abductor wouldn't take both children also. If that is the case(which I am not so sure it is)
JMOO

[Sprout]

Just bumping my request...
Does anyone have the link to the twitter site that is following thiscase? TIA.

[TraceyLeigh]

Whoever was asking about the "plastic lock" on the previous thread - I was watching NG the first night this was mentioned by the dad.. I believe he misunderstood NG's question and was talking about the lock on the screen door. He said something to the effect of "like a normal lock on any screen door".

[eg@gm]

The girlfriend's story doesn't seem that far-fetched. I could imagine waking up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. Seeing the kitchen light on - going in there and then seeing the door open. The first thing I would do was look out the window or out the door. Then I would check on my kid. If he wasn't there, I'd look around - maybe I would call my husband just to check before I called the police. See him coming down the road. See him get out of his truck by himself. And then I'd start to freak out.

[djk]

I'd still like to know how many times the father contacted the home between 3pm and 10pm on the night in question. it would seem to me normal check-in patterns would exist. no one has mentioned any conversations that may have took place between 3pm and 10pm. this guy knew he was trusting his children to a 17 y.o live in girlfriend. how many times did he regularly check in at night. was the traffic any different the night Haleigh went missing?

[swanniee11]

Has anyone googled the g/f's uncles address to see how close and compare it to Haleighs home? Just wondering if its behind them or what?

[TxLady2]

Commenting on someone's post about a 17-yo getting up to go to the bathroom. It is not unusual at all. Not everyone has the same bladder capacity or control of their bladder. My granddaughter wet the bed until she was about 10, if her mom didn't get her up to go to b/r at least once, and sometimes did anyway. I don't recall sleeping through the night without having to get up to go to the b/r at least once myself. So, I don't think it was unusual... she could have drank beer or soft drinks just before going to bed, too.
As to having the general discussion threads, I like them, and was disappointed when they were discontinued in the CA forum. It's nice to have a central place where you can talk about anything without being bashed for being off topic. The only problem is, I miss so much because I can't stay logged in 24/7 and the threads move so fast, I can't keep up!! So if a subject gets repeated a lot, that's okay, it means some of us don't miss as much!

[Carrington]

Anyone know the condition of the trailer?
Clean not clean. Lots of trash, overflowing ashtrays, garbage?
OR, clean as can be expected with 4 people living there?
Only reason I'm asking, I have been thinking Misty may have ran around disposing of things before calling 911. (drug proofing the place, etc.)
I think it's hard sometimes for people to call in LE, even in an emergency.
Just asking, not pointing a finger......:waitasec:
IMO

[TraceyLeigh]

No, but I heard the sheriff touch on that at the presser this morning.

Am I crazy or is that yet another version of events? (Haleigh was the one that got up to use the bathroom, etc.) :waitasec:

[maureenv]

Why wouldn't they also take her little brother? :waitasec:

Maybe they couldn't get to him (sleeping too close to GF). OR maybe just Haleigh because she has a medical issue that may not be taken care of the way they feel it should.

I know it's far fetched, but just throwing everything out there.

[Searchfortruth]

Don't know if this was posted, apologies if it has been...

The Cummings are getting help from another family.

George and Cindy Anthony visited Satsuma Thursday to not only help with the search, but to comfort them.

“They need to be in support of each other. They need to be there no matter what. They need to be out there when things get tough, and there are tough days. There's tough hours. There's tough minutes. They need to know they can reach out to me, to Josh (Duckett), to my wife Cindy, to my son, to other families that understand. We've become members of a unique club, and that unique club is there to help you,” said George Anthony.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/2/13/amber_alert__day_4_in_search_for_haleigh.html

[supergirl]

has anyone heard/seen moms fiance/boyfriend around at all?

[Recovering-Lurker]

Just bumping my request...
Does anyone have the link to the twitter site that is following thiscase? TIA.

Here you go.

http://twitter.com/GSReporters

This is kooky: "At the mother's vigil the grandmother spoke in tongues.
about 17 hours ago from txt" :crazy:

[cc81]

Just bumping my request...
Does anyone have the link to the twitter site that is following thiscase? TIA.

http://twitter.com/GSReporters
nothing has been updated in the last 17 hours

[PattyCake]

Don't know if this was posted, apologies if it has been...

The Cummings are getting help from another family.

George and Cindy Anthony visited Satsuma Thursday to not only help with the search, but to comfort them.

“They need to be in support of each other. They need to be there no matter what. They need to be out there when things get tough, and there are tough days. There's tough hours. There's tough minutes. They need to know they can reach out to me, to Josh (Duckett), to my wife Cindy, to my son, to other families that understand. We've become members of a unique club, and that unique club is there to help you,” said George Anthony.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/2/13/amber_alert__day_4_in_search_for_haleigh.html

:eek:
CA too? Oh no, this is terrible for Haleigh imo.

[JenBMomto3]

Am I crazy or is that yet another version of events? (Haleigh was the one that got up to use the bathroom, etc.) :waitasec:


Initially on the news I heard them say that Haleigh got up to use the bathroom and never came back, But I have not heard nor read that scenario since. Now just that Misty got up to use the Bathroom didn't make it there because she noticed the light on in the kitchen which led her to seeing that the door was open.

Dont know if this is a change of story on her part or just a miscommunication with reporters??

[kiki the parrot]

I doubt she was home for any of it; she came home realized Haleigh missing, didn't call 911 right away, waited a half hour. If she had just woke up and realized it could potentially mean a predator still in the house, so first thing you'd think she'd do is call 911. So it sounds more like she walked upon the situation rather than woke up to it

Either way--whether upon arriving, or awakening, to a missing child--it seems you would call 911, altho 17 year-olds (particularly an irresponsible or semi-guilty one) would not perhaps respond in a take-charge, competent fashion. But I'm right there w you... and IIRC wasn't it reported too that gf was fully dressed when dad arrived home? When did gf have time to dress in all of this if she was sleeping? I've figured too since story broke that she likely left for a period. (Yes IIRC JL was taken by Couey out of a small trailer too, but out of the same room, or even bed?) JMO
:parrot:

[Lyn1001]

Just wanted to weigh in on dad repeatedly (sp?) saying he locked the door. If the AC guy was there while dad was there, maybe the reason dad is so strong in his knowledge about locking the door is because he did so after the AC guy left.

On another note, I am one of the ones that believes gf most likely made a stupid mistake that set the chain of events off and is now scared out of her mind.

[swanniee11]

Am I crazy or is that yet another version of events? (Haleigh was the one that got up to use the bathroom, etc.) :waitasec:


I'm confused to this as well. I think the reporter has it wrong. Heck, last night Fox said they lived in a RV. UGH.. Misty said she got up to go to the bathroom, didnt make it because she saw the kitchen light on, she went out into the kitchen and saw the back door was open.

[Sprout]

Thanks Recovering-Lurker and cc81 :blowkiss:

[MeoW333]

I wonder why a stranger abductor wouldn't take both children also. If that is the case(which I am not so sure it is)
JMOO

If it's a sex offender, they may have had just an obsession with little girls and not boys. Seems like SO's have a gender preference sometimes with their victims. Also, to abduct 2 children is harder than just taking one of them.

[MissieMt]

REALLY good point!

Also...does anyone think it possible that a family member thought Haleigh in potential danger, and removed her from the home? I only bring this up because of the recent story of the grandfather that took his 2 grandkids 20 years ago, and moved to Ca. The other reason is (in one of the threads or news stories) it was said that Child Protective were at the residence previously for unknown reasons. Sometimes a family member might feel that CPS isn't doing what needs to be done. Take matters into their own hands.

Why wouldn't they also take her little brother? :waitasec:


It has been done before. When my Aunt/ Grandma first found out that my sisters had been hurt they snuck them out of a window in the middle of the night. They left me because they were pretty sure I hadn't been hurt (they were right)

[elle1919]

Either way--whether arriving, or awakening, to a missing child--it seems you would call 911, altho 17 year-olds (particularly an irresponsible or semi-guilty one) would not perhaps respond in a take-charge, competent fashion. But I'm right there w you... and IIRC wasn't it reported too that gf was fully dressed when dad arrived home? When did gf have time to get clothing on in all of this if she was sleeping? I've thought since story broke that she likely left for a period. (Yes IIRC JL was taken by Couey out of a small trailer too, but out of the same bed?) JMO
:parrot:

Kiki great point, do we know that girlfriend was fully dressed when the dad came in?

[mydailyopinions]

The girlfriend's story doesn't seem that far-fetched. I could imagine waking up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. Seeing the kitchen light on - going in there and then seeing the door open. The first thing I would do was look out the window or out the door. Then I would check on my kid. If he wasn't there, I'd look around - maybe I would call my husband just to check before I called the police. See him coming down the road. See him get out of his truck by himself. And then I'd start to freak out.

I guess it would depend on which story is true..She has given too many statements..

[Kat]

Just wanted to weigh in on dad repeatedly (sp?) saying he locked the door. If the AC guy was there while dad was there, maybe the reason dad is so strong in his knowledge about locking the door is because he did so after the AC guy left.

On another note, I am one of the ones that believes gf most likely made a stupid mistake that set the chain of events off and is now scared out of her mind.

bolded by me

I'm of that thought too Lyn1001. I read in the link to the article a few posts back that LE is going to be interviewing the Father and GF again today (Friday) I hope they find out exactly what happened so they can firm up their timeline and hopefully narrow down their direction of search.

[MeoW333]

The girlfriend's story doesn't seem that far-fetched. I could imagine waking up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom. Seeing the kitchen light on - going in there and then seeing the door open. The first thing I would do was look out the window or out the door. Then I would check on my kid. If he wasn't there, I'd look around - maybe I would call my husband just to check before I called the police. See him coming down the road. See him get out of his truck by himself. And then I'd start to freak out.

So you'd not call 911 for a whole half hour? Not knowing if the predator was still inside the house, and a child was missing? :eek:
Misty said she noticed Haleigh was gone at 3am and didn't call 911 until 3:27am

[MeoW333]

Has anyone googled the g/f's uncles address to see how close and compare it to Haleighs home? Just wondering if its behind them or what?

Someone did put a map up, Misty's brother's home is just a short walk through the woods behind their trailer.

[Georgia101957]

I'm confused to this as well. I think the reporter has it wrong. Heck, last night Fox said they lived in a RV. UGH.. Misty said she got up to go to the bathroom, didnt make it because she saw the kitchen light on, she went out into the kitchen and saw the back door was open.

Not sure about this mobile home, but most double wides that have a master bedroom, the bathroom is in the bedroom, not across or down the hall. So which bedroom were they actually sleeping in?

[TxLady2]

I'd still like to know how many times the father contacted the home between 3pm and 10pm on the night in question. it would seem to me normal check-in patterns would exist. no one has mentioned any conversations that may have took place between 3pm and 10pm. this guy knew he was trusting his children to a 17 y.o live in girlfriend. how many times did he regularly check in at night. was the traffic any different the night Haleigh went missing?

IMO, guys just are not that obsessive about calling home to check on their kids. Even some moms are not, if they trust the person keeping them. When my mother kept my boys, I rarely called to check on them, unless I knew they were sick or something. I trusted her to call me if something happened, and she did. And it could be that due to the type of work he did, he was just too busy to make a call. I see your point, but he seems a little immature to me too, so he just might not think about something like that. JMO.

[Indigo]

Here's a portion of Misty's account--notice the confusion about blankets. .



Ok-- i put her to bed about, you know, eight, o'clock cause that's her bedtime, she has school. I put her to bed and...her blanket and my blanket. My blanket was in the van that they took. So we had a blanket hanging on the window and I had to wash that--and her blanket--her blanket was-- was she-had peed on her blanket the night before, i guess, and i was gonna put it on her but it smelled like pee. So i washed her blanket and i gave her a little sheet to cover up with (voice breaks) and she fell asleep and I went--come in there and put her blanket on her and then I laid down."

[mydailyopinions]

Initially on the news I heard them say that Haleigh got up to use the bathroom and never came back, But I have not heard nor read that scenario since. Now just that Misty got up to use the Bathroom didn't make it there because she noticed the light on in the kitchen which led her to seeing that the door was open.

Dont know if this is a change of story on her part or just a miscommunication with reporters??

Not miscommication with reporters, both of these statements came out of Misty's mouth during interviews.

[mommya]

Anyone know the condition of the trailer?
Clean not clean. Lots of trash, overflowing ashtrays, garbage?
OR, clean as can be expected with 4 people living there?
Only reason I'm asking, I have been thinking Misty may have ran around disposing of things before calling 911. (drug proofing the place, etc.)
I think it's hard sometimes for people to call in LE, even in an emergency.
Just asking, not pointing a finger......:waitasec:
IMO

hmmmn - she did say she was cleaning that night.

[Georgia101957]

Someone did put a map up, Misty's brother's home is just a short walk through the woods behind their trailer.


here it is

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=202+Green+Lane+Satsuma+Florida&daddr=116+Tyler+Street+Satsuma+Fl&hl=en&geocode=&mra=cc&dirflg=w&sll=29.573245,-81.675355&sspn=0.00115,0.002414&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=19

[PeaHen80]

:eek:
CA too? Oh no, this is terrible for Haleigh imo.

How is Cindy being there terrible for Haleigh? She is missing, was missing before Cindy got there and is missing regardless of Cindy being there or not. The Anthony's have gone through having a missing child and may be able to offer support and guidance. It may not be the guidance everyone thinks they should have, but they are trying to offer support. How is that bad?

[aprilshowers]

Here you go.

http://twitter.com/GSReporters

This is kooky: "At the mother's vigil the grandmother spoke in tongues.
about 17 hours ago from txt" :crazy:

The Bible tells us that 'tongues' is just languages .. such as Spanish, German, etc. .. it's not a 'code' that only certain people know.

Anything else is NOT from God.

[MeoW333]

Not sure about this mobile home, but most double wides that have a master bedroom, the bathroom is in the bedroom, not across or down the hall. So which bedroom were they actually sleeping in?

Double wides do have the master bedroom with the bathroom in it, i would guess that is how their's was set up. My sis used to have one, i wish i could draw a diagram for ya'll. It was a 3 bedroom double wide she had.

[elle1919]

Kiki great point, do we know that girlfriend was fully dressed when the dad came in?

bumping for Kiki....

[swanniee11]

IMO, guys just are not that obsessive about calling home to check on their kids. Even some moms are not, if they trust the person keeping them. When my mother kept my boys, I rarely called to check on them, unless I knew they were sick or something. I trusted her to call me if something happened, and she did. And it could be that due to the type of work he did, he was just too busy to make a call. I see your point, but he seems a little immature to me too, so he just might not think about something like that. JMO.


This is a very good point Tx and DJK, we don't have if there was any contact during the evening. I would love a reporter to find this out.

Also, thanks Meo for the info on the location of the uncle, very interesting

[MeoW333]

Not miscommication with reporters, both of these statements came out of Misty's mouth during interviews.

Yep, interviews of her speaking in person on video!

[MeoW333]

hmmmn - she did say she was cleaning that night.

IIRC, i believe she did say something to that effect.
She also mentioned in another interview that she'd use the back door to take out the garbage..

[Georgia101957]

Here's a site that has different floor plan configurations. If we knew the model it would sure be helpful :)
http://www.mh-quote.com/

[JenBMomto3]

Not miscommication with reporters, both of these statements came out of Misty's mouth during interviews.

I have searched to find MISTY actually stating that Haleigh used the bathroom. Do you know where it can be found?? TIA

I wasn't saying that Misty hasn't changed her story BUT had only heard it from a reporter (Haleigh used the bathroom) not actually Misty's OWN words. I have ACTUALLY heard Misty stating SHE/HERSELF used the bathroom.:waitasec:

[nyvictoria]

:eek:
CA too? Oh no, this is terrible for Haleigh imo.

ITA!! The last thing they need is Cindy alienating LE!!

[PattyCake]

How is Cindy being there terrible for Haleigh? She is missing, was missing before Cindy got there and is missing regardless of Cindy being there or not. The Anthony's have gone through having a missing child and may be able to offer support and guidance. It may not be the guidance everyone thinks they should have, but they are trying to offer support. How is that bad?

I find it very unhealthy for GA and their actions towards the media may steer the family to have the same 'attitude' and turn the media against them. CA, I'm concerned will tell them to get lawyers and tell the media to 'go away' because they're not helping. That in my opinion is not a good thing for Haleigh. Yesterday on the news, GA already mispoke and said "Caylee" but he was meaning to say Haleigh. That tells me he is in over his head.
my 2cents

[77NancyDrew]

has anyone heard/seen moms fiance/boyfriend around at all?

There was an interview with him on the FCN site, he is staying home due to other children.

[Busylady]

Only fear I have is that the Anthonys will advise the family of Haleigh to not offer information to the police, to get lawyers etc. The Anthonys have made it clear they do not trust LE and im just afraid that message will be passed on to Haleighs family and that will just slow the investigation way down.

How is Cindy being there terrible for Haleigh? She is missing, was missing before Cindy got there and is missing regardless of Cindy being there or not. The Anthony's have gone through having a missing child and may be able to offer support and guidance. It may not be the guidance everyone thinks they should have, but they are trying to offer support. How is that bad?

[TxLady2]

So you'd not call 911 for a whole half hour? Not knowing if the predator was still inside the house, and a child was missing? :eek:
Misty said she noticed Haleigh was gone at 3am and didn't call 911 until 3:27am


I don't think she said it was exactly 3 AM, she said sometime after 3, so it's possible that it could have been closer to 3:30. And someone that young is not going to call 911 the very second, she would probably look around in the house first, or even go outside to see if she was close by. I don't make too much out of the time lapse myself, because there are all kinds of explanations that could be applied. And she was scared, so she wasn't being rational. However, she sounded more in control on that 911 call than he did, he was completely hysterical and blabbering uncontrollably.

[kellync]

Good lord,speaking in tongues? sheesh
Where have the girlfriends parents been?
and as usual, Im going to ask again, who watched this child before g/f came along????

[77NancyDrew]

I find it very unhealthy for GA and their actions towards the media may steer the family to have the same 'attitude' and turn the media against them. CA, I'm concerned will tell them to get lawyers and tell the media to 'go away' because they're not helping. That in my opinion is not a good thing for Haleigh. Yesterday on the news, GA already mispoke and said "Caylee" but he was meaning to say Haleigh. That tells me he is in over his head.
my 2cents

ITA with you the A's really don't need to be inserting themselves into this case.

[mydailyopinions]

I have searched to find MISTY actually stating that Haleigh used the bathroom. Do you know where it can be found?? TIA

I wasn't saying that Misty hasn't changed her story BUT had only heard it from a reporter (Haleigh used the bathroom) not actually Misty's OWN words. I have ACTUALLY heard Misty stating SHE/HERSELF used the bathroom.:waitasec:

I'll see if I can find it for you..

[Indigo]

Yep, interviews of her speaking in person on video!

Hi, MeoW333. Do you have a link to video of Misty's account of Hayleigh getting up to use the bathroom. Thanks in advance!

[djk]

IMO, guys just are not that obsessive about calling home to check on their kids. Even some moms are not, if they trust the person keeping them. When my mother kept my boys, I rarely called to check on them, unless I knew they were sick or something. I trusted her to call me if something happened, and she did. And it could be that due to the type of work he did, he was just too busy to make a call. I see your point, but he seems a little immature to me too, so he just might not think about something like that. JMO.

put you mom in one hand and then put that gf in the other hand, ya can not even compare the two in my book and I do not even know your mother. this guy as far as I'm concerning is pushing close to basic child neglect issues.

[kellync]

There was an interview with him on the FCN site, he is staying home due to other children.
On Myspace, buying his girlfriend as his pet
WTH?

[lowa1]

I doubt she was home for any of it; she came home realized Haleigh missing, didn't call 911 right away, waited a half hour. If she had just woke up and realized it could potentially mean a predator still in the house, so first thing you'd think she'd do is call 911. So it sounds more like she walked upon the situation rather than woke up to it

You may be right in this statement. I kept thinking maybe the GF had guests in but why didn't it occur to me that she may have went out. This would also explain her "still" being dressed. Unless she slept in her clothes? Something is way wrong with this story. Unfortunately I think this particular 17 year old is very immature sounding and acting so far. Also unable to tell her story straight. JMHO guess we will see....

[77NancyDrew]

How is Cindy being there terrible for Haleigh? She is missing, was missing before Cindy got there and is missing regardless of Cindy being there or not. The Anthony's have gone through having a missing child and may be able to offer support and guidance. It may not be the guidance everyone thinks they should have, but they are trying to offer support. How is that bad?

I think the way the A's carried themselves when Caylee was missing is what is screaming to me for them to get the heck out of there.
They will have Haleigh's family against Le in no time.
JMOO

[tehcloser]

Ok....my problem with G and C being involved is this....their daughter murdered Caylee. It was not a case like Tim Millers or Mark K's. It was murder by a mom. They need to stay out of missing kid cases. They taint everything they touch, it will be more about them being there that Haleigh. Now let's forget them and stay focused here.

[cajun]

Why wouldn't they also take her little brother? :waitasec:

Maybe they aren't into diddling with little boys, just girls.

Ya'll have been busy since I logged out last night and I will never catch up. I guess no new news? tv is basically all about the plane crash last night, bless those poor souls and their families.

[MeoW333]

How is Cindy being there terrible for Haleigh? She is missing, was missing before Cindy got there and is missing regardless of Cindy being there or not. The Anthony's have gone through having a missing child and may be able to offer support and guidance. It may not be the guidance everyone thinks they should have, but they are trying to offer support. How is that bad?

There granddaughter's case isn't even done yet, and Casey hasn't been sent to prison yet. They need to stick to their own turf and deal with their own problems before they go buttin' into others'.
They are 2 different cases, having the Anthony's there just adds more to the mess, imo.
GA just tried to kill himself the other week, you'd think they'd be resting and sticking to themselves is what they should be doing. If their case had different circumstances and wasn't such a media circus pleaing for attention, maybe i'd think differently..

[Sdavidson11]

I have to defend the g/f not calling 911 for 27 minutes. Unless you have been a crime victim or read WS most people don't realize what a dangerous world that we live in or the evil in some people. When waking up, seeing the light on, checking the house, checking on the kids, your mind doesn't immediately comprehend what may have just happened to you that changes your life forever. Especially at 17 with limited life experience, you just don't expect some people to be cruel. I hope phone records will be able to give us a little more info but for right now I will defend the g/f's actions. I have a 17 year old and I can't imagine her living with a man and being mom to his 2 children. I would imagine her first phone call would be to me to ask what she should do before even thinking about calling 911 because who would ever imagine something the horrible to wake up to.

[77NancyDrew]

On Myspace, buying his girlfriend as his pet
WTH?

I know Eh(can you tell I am Canadian)

[MeoW333]

Ok....my problem with G and C being involved is this....their daughter murdered Caylee. It was not a case like Tim Millers or Mark K's. It was murder by a mom. They need to stay out of missing kid cases. They taint everything they touch, it will be more about them being there that Haleigh. Now let's forget them and stay focused here.

Amen! You said it better than i did :clap:

[kiki the parrot]

Many things re gf I can chalk off to nervousness, being not as articulate, experienced, prepared to face the media, or even scared of an angry dad but what troubles me is the evolution or sequence of changes in her story. In particular eg, when it is questioned how a child could be taken right out from the bed she initially claimed to be sleeping in w Haleigh, she proceeds then to a different bed... when that's questioned, oh woops it was a different room... when bathroom story is questioned ie when she first realized or discovered, this seems to change, now light was on eg, all continually in order to account for or explain holes or problems w her current story... Not certain this is indicative of guilt, but if we're telling the truth, no matter how uneducated, inarticulate, nervous, we might leave parts out, might not describe clearly or explain very well the first time, but not contradict ourselves, w inaccuracies over and over.
:confused: :waitasec:

ETA: As I've said, t's just a matter of the degree of guiltiness, which could be simply leaving briefly. JMO
:parrot:

[aprilshowers]

Did G and C ASK before going there? If it were me, I'd want to be asked, before having them just show up. If they just 'appear' you're in a sticky situation then... since you'd have to tell them to leave.

[MeoW333]

Many things re gf I can chalk off to nervousness, being not as articulate, experienced, prepared to face the media, or even scared of an angry dad... but what troubles me is the evolution or sequence of changes in her story. In particular eg, when it is questioned how a child could be taken right out from the bed she initially claimed to be sleeping in w Haleigh, she proceeds then to a different bed... when that's questioned, oh woops it was a different room... when bathroom story is questioned this seems to change, lights etc all continually in order to explain problems w her current story... Not certain this is indicative of guilt, but as others have said if we're telling the truth, no matter how uneducated, inarticulate, nervous, we might leave parts out, might not describe or explain very well the first time but not contradict ourselves over and over. JMO :confused: :waitasec:

:parrot:

Agreed! It also explains why LE is interviewing the family again, probably hoping they'll get a straight story out of her.
As for the father sticking by the gf, i don't understand it unless he had a hand in it, or he wants to keep tight tabs on her.

[christine2448]

I am going to start 2 threads, one for media only and one for links to docs, both NO DISCUSSION...Please allow SWAG1959, who so kindly volunteer to go through all 10 threads and put media links up in order, time to work on getting all media links up to date then we can add from there.

I will be back to post links to 2 forums.


Those of you interested in talking about astrology etc, please start a separate thread for discussion on this subject so you can stay organized and not lost in main discussion threads.

TIA.

[suzet]

I see charges coming this weekend..

*snipped*

And they have Ron's and Misty's names all over them.

[SeriouslySearching]

SS is there a timeline in these types of cases where they make a declaration as you mentioned? I'm not familiar and was curious to know when they make the determinations to declare homicide or missing persons, and do you know what type of timeline would be used to decide when to scale back operations if she isn't found? TIAThere is no timeline. If they find a body or evidence of foul play (such as a significant amount of blood), they can declare it a homicide so the investigation moves to that unit vs. missing persons unit.

They scale back operations when they have exhausted possible locations to search and viable leads have dried up. Again, there is no timeline they follow as each case is different.

[mydailyopinions]

Can anyone remember where we can find the 2 statements from Misty about going to the bathroom? The one where she says it was Haleigh who went, then the other where she was the one who went?

[JenBMomto3]

On Myspace, buying his girlfriend as his pet
WTH?

I have a myspace as well. I dont have this Application or game. But it is very popular with people. I have looked through other friends and family members pages of Crystal and Chad, they are all playing it. Not so much the game that caught me off but some of the comments they left after buying each other, if you will. It's hard to see but if you look right under the post they leave comments to one another.
:eek:

[impatientredhead]

Someone did put a map up, Misty's brother's home is just a short walk through the woods behind their trailer.

See this is the part that makes me think the door was propped open because Misti was out of the house but not really far away. Prop the door open thinking you could hear if one of the kids started crying?

Haleigh very well might have woken up scared, drug her blanket with her since the house would be cold with the door open. Scared of the dark or not, what if she woke up scared, cold and alone in the house. Out the open door, and into pedophile row.

I don't think Misti has a car, I don't think she went far. And neighbors probably would have noticed a car coming and going.

[TxLady2]

I'm confused to this as well. I think the reporter has it wrong. Heck, last night Fox said they lived in a RV. UGH.. Misty said she got up to go to the bathroom, didnt make it because she saw the kitchen light on, she went out into the kitchen and saw the back door was open.


RVs and camper trailers only have one door. It could have been just a single-wide mobile home, where do we get that it was a double-wide? In the pics, it looks like a single to me.

[christine2448]

Haleigh Media Links NO DISCUSSION (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3305431#post3305431)---give SWAG time to get it current!

[77NancyDrew]

I am going to start 2 threads, one for media only and one for links to docs, both NO DISCUSSION...Please allow SWAG1959, who so kindly volunteer to go through all 10 threads and put media links up in order, time to work on getting all media links up to date then we can add from there.

I will be back to post links to 2 forums.


Those of you interested in talking about astrology etc, please start a separate thread for discussion on this subject so you can stay organized and not lost in main discussion threads.

TIA.
:blowkiss: Thanks Christine

[petresq_algc]

wow, the LE does use the word 'cleared' with the SO's. At least all of the cooperated and allowed LE to search all their properties. Goodness, this poor child.

This is bothering me as well. With the critical time being around 3 am, how reliable can alibis be? I would assume that most of the SO live alone and would just say that they were home sleeping. How can this be verified? It is just my gut feeling that someone is slipping through the cracks here.

[Sdavidson11]

The A's just need to stay away until equasearch finishes the search. The A's weren't interested when TM was looking for Caylee. Trying to take the spotlight from equasearch and all the good in finding this little girl. I say a prayer but LP, KFN, and the A's should send prayers and support and stay away. JMO

[swanniee11]

I know Eh(can you tell I am Canadian)


That is so funny, we used to live in Canada ( going back 30 yrs) and My older sister still says "EH" lol

[tehcloser]

RVs and camper trailers only have one door. It could have been just a single-wide mobile home, where do we get that it was a double-wide? In the pics, it looks like a single to me.

They just had a great pic of it on HLN...it is most def a double wide. With a small screened in back porch....

[Capri]

Someone did put a map up, Misty's brother's home is just a short walk through the woods behind their trailer.

Is there an interview with the brother?

[kiki the parrot]

Thank u Christine :blowkiss: and thank u 2 SWAG... this will help greatly I hope in following such fast-paced threads! :online:

:parrot:

[cajun]

Ok....my problem with G and C being involved is this....their daughter murdered Caylee. It was not a case like Tim Millers or Mark K's. It was murder by a mom. They need to stay out of missing kid cases. They taint everything they touch, it will be more about them being there that Haleigh. Now let's forget them and stay focused here.

Exactly. :)

[alwaysonmymind]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jubilee
I ahven't seen anything about meth or opium. Do you have a link, or links? TIA

From momtective-
Another valuable piece of info...lost in the threads.

Here is the post-

Today, 08:29 PM
WindChime
Administrator Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 6,349

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[Seahorseladydi]

Why wouldn't they also take her little brother? :waitasec:


I have wondered this ALL along...... why ONLY Haleigh?

[SeriouslySearching]

Maybe they aren't into diddling with little boys, just girls.

Ya'll have been busy since I logged out last night and I will never catch up. I guess no new news? tv is basically all about the plane crash last night, bless those poor souls and their families.I was responding to the poster who thought possibly someone from the family took her to keep her safe or something. I was asking them if that was the case...why wouldn't they take the brother. ;) In other words, it isn't plausible it was a family member taking her for those reasons to me.

[Indigo]

Has there been any confirmation by anyone other than the parents about the last time Hayleigh was seen? Thanks.

[Sprout]

I am going to start 2 threads, one for media only and one for links to docs, both NO DISCUSSION...Please allow SWAG1959, who so kindly volunteer to go through all 10 threads and put media links up in order, time to work on getting all media links up to date then we can add from there.

I will be back to post links to 2 forums.


Those of you interested in talking about astrology etc, please start a separate thread for discussion on this subject so you can stay organized and not lost in main discussion threads.

TIA.


Thanks Christine and Thanks as well to SWAG1959! :woohoo:

[cajun]

As far as Misty being dressed I see that as no big deal. When I was that age I slept in tee shirts and shorts. Maybe she had on that or a tee and some sweats when she went to bed.

[christine2448]

2 stickies now on top of missing forum for media/pert links, docs. Please give SWAG time to fill it in and get us current.

[peytnsmom]

Does anyone know if Haleigh's genetic condition would qualify her for disability payments from the state?

[LCoastMom]

I hate to post something so morbid...but I hope they search the crawl spaces under ALL of the trailers there.

If she was under one of the trailers since Monday, everyone would know by now. It's very hot and very wet under them. The smell would be over powering and you would smell it a couple houses away.

[cajun]

I was responding to the poster who thought possibly someone from the family took her to keep her safe or something. I was asking them if that was the case...why wouldn't they take the brother. ;) In other words, it isn't plausible it was a family member taking her for those reasons to me.

Ok, LOL. I am still trying to get up to speed. :)

[nursebeeme]

wow, the LE does use the word 'cleared' with the SO's. At least all of the cooperated and allowed LE to search all their properties. Goodness, this poor child.
"All the sex offenders have been interviewed and their residences have been searched," said Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy. "They're cleared as far as us contacting them and speaking to them."

They are only cleared insofar that all of them have been talked to and their homes searched. I did not take that to mean they were completely cleared...

[swanniee11]

although i'm still not buying that either one of these 2 had anything to do with Haleigh missing I am going to throw this out there.

If she opened the back door and used a brick to keep it open so she could go to her brothers and she left the kitchen light on, she could have just gotten back right before the dad came home, she didnt have time to shut the back door, she noticed Haleigh was missing and called the Dad while he was pulling up.

Heres my problem, I would think that would show up on the LDT ( maybe it did, we have not heard from LE that they officially "passed") and if it did, LE would still be all over the g/f, and the brother and his kids.

[SeriouslySearching]

2 stickies now on top of missing forum for media/pert links, docs. Please give SWAG time to fill it in and get us current.Thanks, Christine~!

[Never4GetCaylee]

I have to defend the g/f not calling 911 for 27 minutes. Unless you have been a crime victim or read WS most people don't realize what a dangerous world that we live in or the evil in some people. When waking up, seeing the light on, checking the house, checking on the kids, your mind doesn't immediately comprehend what may have just happened to you that changes your life forever. Especially at 17 with limited life experience, you just don't expect some people to be cruel. I hope phone records will be able to give us a little more info but for right now I will defend the g/f's actions. I have a 17 year old and I can't imagine her living with a man and being mom to his 2 children. I would imagine her first phone call would be to me to ask what she should do before even thinking about calling 911 because who would ever imagine something the horrible to wake up to.

ITA. If she really did wake up at 3am to use the bathroom (which I doubt) it may not have been 3am on the dot, maybe it was 5 minutes after, then your mind has to kick in that something is wrong, you search the house, which say takes you to 3:15am and she knows dad will be home in about 10 minutes, I can understand her calling the dad first, she knew he was probably close and she is not the bio-mom, so she was probably scared to death of what dad was going to say. Being 17 too, she probably wanted instruction from him.

Personally though, I don't even think she was at the home, I think she got back just before dad did after being out and said 3am because it would have sounded too strange if she said she just happened to have to go to the bathroom 5 minutes before dad got home.

[bp531]

Does gf have a cell phone?
Does father work at the plant or a bridge construction site?
If at bridge const site, has LE searched there?
Did the jonboat from day 1 belong to police for search, or is it evidence?
Has fathers 9mm been fired latley?

[maureenv]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jubilee
I ahven't seen anything about meth or opium. Do you have a link, or links? TIA

From momtective-
Another valuable piece of info...lost in the threads.

Here is the post-

Today, 08:29 PM
WindChime
Administrator Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 6,349

First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
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First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA (MORE THAN 20 GRAMS) Gender M

14 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES (OTHER THAN COCAINE, HEROIN, OPIUM, OR MARIJUANA) Gender M

15 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS METHAMPHETAMINE Gender M

16 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS MDMA Gender M

17 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS GHB Gender M

18 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A OPIUM - POSSESSION (LESS THAN 10 GRAMS) Gender M

19 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A HEROIN - POSSESSION (LESS THAN 10 GRAMS) Gender

20 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A COCAINE - POSSESSION Gender M

21 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0499.03 Gender M

22 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-10-23 Source State FL
Offense 0784.011 MISDEMEANOR - ASSAULT Gender M

23 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-01-02 Source State FL
Offense 0322.16 Gender M

24 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-05-20 Source State FL
Offense 0569.11.1 Gender M

WOW...I totally missed that post! Thanks for the re-post! He has a rap sheet a mile long! Wasn't he a minor during these offenses? I thought a minor's offenses' are sealed. Hmmmm...must have been charged as an adult...I wonder why? Many more juvie offenses maybe?

[MeoW333]

This is bothering me as well. With the critical time being around 3 am, how reliable can alibis be? I would assume that most of the SO live alone and would just say that they were home sleeping. How can this be verified? It is just my gut feeling that someone is slipping through the cracks here.

I hear you on that, with 44 of them registered nearby, what if they have unknown underground bunkers, cabins, other places they could hide a child? Did LE just ask each one for an alibi? A lot of them is probably just the word of the SO, which doesn't mean anything

[MyTinkieGirl]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jubilee
I ahven't seen anything about meth or opium. Do you have a link, or links? TIA

From momtective-
Another valuable piece of info...lost in the threads.

Here is the post-

Today, 08:29 PM
WindChime
Administrator Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 6,349

First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.147.1 MISDEMEANOR - POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA Gender M

12 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6B MISDEMEANOR - POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA Gender M

13 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA (MORE THAN 20 GRAMS) Gender M

14 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES (OTHER THAN COCAINE, HEROIN, OPIUM, OR MARIJUANA) Gender M

15 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS METHAMPHETAMINE Gender M

16 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS MDMA Gender M

17 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS GHB Gender M

18 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A OPIUM - POSSESSION (LESS THAN 10 GRAMS) Gender M

19 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A HEROIN - POSSESSION (LESS THAN 10 GRAMS) Gender

20 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A COCAINE - POSSESSION Gender M

21 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0499.03 Gender M

22 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-10-23 Source State FL
Offense 0784.011 MISDEMEANOR - ASSAULT Gender M

23 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-01-02 Source State FL
Offense 0322.16 Gender M

24 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-05-20 Source State FL
Offense 0569.11.1 Gender M


HOLY CARP!!! He was a walking "drug store" on that day....12/12/2002....whew

[MeoW333]

Is there an interview with the brother?

Not that i'm aware of

[MeoW333]

2 stickies now on top of missing forum for media/pert links, docs. Please give SWAG time to fill it in and get us current.

Thank you so much, hopefully people will refer to them as the same questions are asked over and over

[SeriouslySearching]

"All the sex offenders have been interviewed and their residences have been searched," said Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy. "They're cleared as far as us contacting them and speaking to them."

They are only cleared insofar that all of them have been talked to and their homes searched. I did not take that to mean they were completely cleared...You would be correct. ;) They are only "cleared" as far as LE has contacted them. They are not cleared as possible suspects yet.

[lowa1]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jubilee
I ahven't seen anything about meth or opium. Do you have a link, or links? TIA

From momtective-
Another valuable piece of info...lost in the threads.

Here is the post-

Today, 08:29 PM
WindChime
Administrator Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 6,349

First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.147.1 MISDEMEANOR - POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA Gender M

12 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6B MISDEMEANOR - POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA Gender M

13 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA (MORE THAN 20 GRAMS) Gender M

14 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCES (OTHER THAN COCAINE, HEROIN, OPIUM, OR MARIJUANA) Gender M

15 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS METHAMPHETAMINE Gender M

16 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS MDMA Gender M

17 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS GHB Gender M

18 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A OPIUM - POSSESSION (LESS THAN 10 GRAMS) Gender M

19 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A HEROIN - POSSESSION (LESS THAN 10 GRAMS) Gender

20 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A COCAINE - POSSESSION Gender M

21 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0499.03 Gender M

22 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-10-23 Source State FL
Offense 0784.011 MISDEMEANOR - ASSAULT Gender M

23 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-01-02 Source State FL
Offense 0322.16 Gender M

24 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2001-05-20 Source State FL
Offense 0569.11.1 Gender M


And he got CUSTODY of the kids? WTH is going on here? Am I correct on NG the courts gave him custody?

[Tichad3]

thats suck so bad he has been doing so good then this happens.ell tell him i said i hope everything goes good and tell he we love him.. love ya kayla


This is a comment left on Misty's brothers wife's (Misty's SIL) myspace. Tommy is the brother.
What do you think it means by "he has been doing so good..."?


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=78857035

[gibby207]

I am going to start 2 threads, one for media only and one for links to docs, both NO DISCUSSION...Please allow SWAG1959, who so kindly volunteer to go through all 10 threads and put media links up in order, time to work on getting all media links up to date then we can add from there.

I will be back to post links to 2 forums.


Those of you interested in talking about astrology etc, please start a separate thread for discussion on this subject so you can stay organized and not lost in main discussion threads.

TIA.

Thank you Christine and SWAG1959!!!! :blowkiss:

[standing0]

First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.147.1 MISDEMEANOR - POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA Gender M
...
...


Oh god thank you...This is where I was reading that Ronald was 25, not 24.

[indicat]

The girlfriend's story doesn't seem that far-fetched.

*Snipped by me.

Which story? That's the problem.

[mydailyopinions]

This is a comment left on Misty's brothers wife's (Misty's SIL) myspace. Tommy is the brother.
What do you think it means by "he has been doing so good..."?


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=78857035

If you follow that post back to the sender, I think it says something to the effect of the person having some kind of surgery and something about a hospital stay..

[maureenv]

Does anyone know if Haleigh's genetic condition would qualify her for disability payments from the state?

I looked it up and it does, provided the parents request the help. It qualifies because additional medical and educational resources might be needed. The parents also have to show the need for it, and the funds will be used for it.

Haliegh may not have been a severe case though...not sure.

[lowa1]

Can someone re post my space links please?

[alwaysonmymind]

WOW...I totally missed that post! Thanks for the re-post! He has a rap sheet a mile long! Wasn't he a minor during these offenses? I thought a minor's offenses' are sealed. Hmmmm...must have been charged as an adult...I wonder why? Many more juvie offenses maybe?

There is more. I'll go find it. All the cases on the post referenced here- were nolle prosequi . *Do not pursue* LaLaw posted this is probably because he gave up his supplier to avoid prosecution. This could be very dangerous if true. moo

I'll find the other post with more criminal activity that is more recent.

[cjk2009]

This is a comment left on Misty's brothers wife's (Misty's SIL) myspace. Tommy is the brother.
What do you think it means by "he has been doing so good..."?


http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewProfile&friendID=78857035

On the other Myspace, it said that their Uncle Hank had gone through some surgery sometime this week or last; that comment is in response to it.

[Edamama]

As far as Misty being dressed I see that as no big deal. When I was that age I slept in tee shirts and shorts. Maybe she had on that or a tee and some sweats when she went to bed.

I do not find what she was dressed in for bed to be unusual at all. My 3yo girl sleeps in barely anythign at night. She is jsut a little nudist. She may wear a nightie and no underpants. Other nights a tank top and no under pants. Soemtimes she goes buck naked and others she has full jammies on. Most often she never wears underpants. We like to "air out" our girl bits at night. :rolleyes:

[SailorMoon]

HOLY CARP!!! He was a walking "drug store" on that day....12/12/2002....whew

And how. And he operates a crane???? Geeze......

[Recovering-Lurker]

Hopefully he/she got permission to post pics.

"Was able to embed myself with search team. Photos to come shortly.
5 minutes ago from txt"

http://twitter.com/GSReporters

[MeoW333]

And he got CUSTODY of the kids? WTH is going on here? Am I correct on NG the courts gave him custody?

Evidently the mother is worse off to have the kids, we've went over this in another thread.
I wish we had a way to organize this whole case..

[peytnsmom]

I wish we knew more about the daily routine in this house. Was it the father or g/f that got Haleigh up and ready for school each morning? Who was the primary care giver to the 4 year old brother during the day?

[MyTinkieGirl]

17 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS GHB Gender M

All these drug charges makes me think MAYBE this IS drug related. GF could have been just hangin out with some people they owed $$ to....they slipped some GHB in her drink...took Haleigh as collateral till debt paid...???

[mydailyopinions]

Hopefully he/she got permission to post pics.

"Was able to embed myself with search team. Photos to come shortly.
5 minutes ago from txt"

http://twitter.com/GSReporters

I certainly hope he is not embedded with TES! Tim would be furious!

[impatientredhead]

Hopefully he/she got permission to post pics.

"Was able to embed myself with search team. Photos to come shortly.
5 minutes ago from txt"

http://twitter.com/GSReporters

that is a big no no

[sstepp63]

Everything I've heard is about the back door. Has the GF said whether the front door was locked when got up? Did it have a deadbolt too? Could they have come in the front door and left through the back door?

sstepp63

[nittany90]

Not defending dad's previous drug charges AT ALL.
That said, the most recent one was in 2002 - 7 years ago. Even before Haleigh was born. I'm not sure those charges are relevant today, if there aren't any more recent incidents.

And, if dad had custody (which mom fought in a court of law), I'm sure she brought up his past drug history. If I was the judge, first thing I would have done was a random drug test to see if there was concern for any current use.

Dad got custody. That tells me he was at least clean at the time of the test. No further charges, hopefully he got help.

[alwaysonmymind]

HOLY CARP!!! He was a walking "drug store" on that day....12/12/2002....whew

He sure was. :eek: Here is the other post with the other charges...

posted by me-
Finally found this 3 threads ago. In 2002 when the Dad was busted with the variety of drugs, he was not prosecuted. People don't get caught with that much dope and the police give em a pass. It is possible according to La LAW as posted below, he cooperated and turned in his supplier. This could be revenge for that. MOO


Originally Posted by ElizaAvalon
10/24/2001 - Assault Complaint

12/12/2002 - POSSESSION OF COCAINE, POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE, POSSESSION OF CANNABIS UNDER 20 GRAMS, POSSESSION OF DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION, POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA.
Sentence: maybe someone can translate. These are the notes from the trial: THE CASE WAS ORDERED NOLLE PROSEQUI IN OPEN COURT ANNOUNCEMENT OF NOLLE PROSEQUI - ENT CIR CT MIN
12/12/2002 - ATTEMPTING TO TAKE DEER BY GUN AND LIGHT AT NIGHT
Notes:
2003-01-23 5 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT
2003-01-23 6 ADJ OF GUILT AND PLACING DEFENDANT CT I
2003-01-23 6 ON PROBATION AND SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION
2003-01-23 7 ADJ OF GUILT AND PLACING DEFENDANT CT II
2003-01-23 7 ON PROBATION AND SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION
2003-03-04 8 $188.00 FINE PAID 02/18/2003
2003-03-04 9 $ 25.00 COURT FACILITY FEE PAID 02/18/2003
2003-03-04 10 $ 25.00 WILDLIFE ALERT FUND PAYMENT 02/18/2003


11/16/2004 - POSSESSION OF CANNABIS IN EXCESS OF 20 GRAMS, POSSESSION OF DRUG PARAPHERNALIA, MAINTAINING A DRUG VEHICLE
WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO
DEFT SWORN, W/D FORMER PLEA, PLEAD NOLO A/C, ADVISED
Notes:
2005-03-03 20 MAX PENALTY 5 YRS DOC &/OR $5000 FINE, PSI WAIVED,
2005-03-03 20 PLEA ACCEPTED, SENTENCING SET SAME DAY
2005-03-03 20 ADJUDICATION OF GUILT WITHHELD
2005-03-03 20 $370.00 COURT COSTS (6 MONTHS TO PAY)
2005-03-03 20 ADI PROGRAM - LEVEL II
2005-09-08 21 CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION OF ADI LEVEL II PROGRAM
2005-09-08 21 $370.00 COURT COST PAID
2005-11-14 22 $370.00 PAYMENT MADE TO CASE

11/14/2006 - LEAVING THE SCENE OF ACCIDENT INVOLVING INJURIES
Notes:
This one was transferred to County Court

8/1/2006 - TRESPASS - http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDe...3879&IMG=49930
Notes:
2006-10-30 22 ADJUDGED GUILTY
2006-10-30 22 PROB HRDS 6 MONTHS
2006-10-30 22 1 DAY PCJ WITH CREDIT FOR TIME SERVED OF 1 DAY
2006-10-30 22 $273.00 FINE AND COST
2006-10-30 22 $ 40.00 PD FEE SUSPENDED
2006-10-30 22 RANDOM DRUG TEST
2006-10-30 23 WRITTEN PLEA OF GUILTY OR NOLO CONTENDERE TO
2006-10-30 23 CRIMINAL CHARGES IN COUNTY COURT
2006-10-30 24 ORDER OF PROBATION
2007-01-17 25 $ 60.00 FINE AND COST PAYMENT 11/14/2006
2007-02-07 26 SUCCESSFUL TERMINATION OF PROBATION
2007-02-14 27 $120.00 FINE AND COST PAYMENT 12/28/2006
2007-03-16 28 $ 93.00 FINE AND COST BAL PAID 01/25/2007

12/19/2006 - LEAVING THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT (I didn't notice before, but this is the same infraction as the one on 11/14/2006)
Notes:
2007-02-06 13 THE CASE WAS ORDERED NOLLE PROSEQUI IN OPEN COURT
2007-02-06 13 INFRACTION DISMISSED CIT # 6416EEN2 - CARELESS DRIVING
2007-02-06 13 INFRACTION DISMISSED CIT # 6418EEN4 - OPERATE ATV
2007-02-06 13 W/O HELMET
2007-02-06 14 WAIVER OF COUNSEL

4/3/2007 - AFFRAY
Sentence: 10 HOURS COMMUNITY SERVICE

11/14/2007 - POSSESSION OF MODERN FIREARM DURING MUZZLELOADING SEASON, TRESPASS
Sentence: $273.00 FINE AND COST SUSPENDED, 24 HOURS HOUSE ARREST

I've learned one thing today: breaking the law appears to go unpunished in Florida.

posted by LA Law--

The drug charge sounded to me as if he cooperated with LE and turned in the supplier. That is what I get out of it. This guy clearly has a disregard for laws.

[cajun]

I do not find what she was dressed in for bed to be unusual at all. My 3yo girl sleeps in barely anythign at night. She is jsut a little nudist. She may wear a nightie and no underpants. Other nights a tank top and no under pants. Soemtimes she goes buck naked and others she has full jammies on. Most often she never wears underpants. We like to "air out" our girl bits at night. :rolleyes:

Funny. As an adult I sleep commando style myself.:crazy:

[JenBMomto3]

I do not find what she was dressed in for bed to be unusual at all. My 3yo girl sleeps in barely anythign at night. She is jsut a little nudist. She may wear a nightie and no underpants. Other nights a tank top and no under pants. Soemtimes she goes buck naked and others she has full jammies on. Most often she never wears underpants. We like to "air out" our girl bits at night. :rolleyes:



LOL I have 2 little nudist here too :crazy: But I think they were talking about what Misty was wearing to bed the 17 Yr Old G/F.

As in did she just get in wearing clothes from the day notice Haleigh missing...

Or was she wearing PJ'S :confused:

[SeriouslySearching]

We are only supposed to be discussing pertinent things here about George and KFN (not the A fam).

I have asked Marc K. (on his thread) to please take the father under his wing to steer him and the family towards legitimate groups for support. For the father to keep the lines of communication open with LE if he has nothing to hide is imperative and Marc K.'s advice is on target.

KFN is not a legitimate group, imo, and since George has aligned himself with them in the search for Haleigh...we are free to discuss what their motives are here. This is not bashing because it does pertain directly to this case.

[Never4GetCaylee]

I'm wondering if GF's brother has taken a LDT? Was he really at the house at 5 o'clock, did he see Haleigh? Did he see his sister after 10pm? Did she come over to his house after the kids were in bed? Did she ever leave the kids when they were sleeping and come over his house?

[impatientredhead]

I wonder who he testified against, and did they just get out?

[SleuthyMama]

I don't have anything to offer except my gut feeling that something is just not right w/ the g/f's story(ies). I can't quite decide whether I think she harmed Haleigh or if it's just that she was out of the house doing something she shouldn't have been and left those babies alone for someone else to enter the picture and snatch her.

And yet, after writing that, something is tapping me on the shoulder and telling me that the g/f is directly responsible. My own opinion of course but it's just this nagging messed up feeling in the pit of my stomach.

[MeoW333]

Hi, MeoW333. Do you have a link to video of Misty's account of Hayleigh getting up to use the bathroom. Thanks in advance!

They were posted a couple times on the other thread, i'll try and find them again for you

(you gotta wait until the guy in the commerical stops talking and then this is one)

http://www.abcactionnews.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=12940@wfts.dayport.com&navCatId=3&rss=823

the other one was Nancy Grace's interview with the father and Misty

[mydailyopinions]

Funny. As an adult I sleep commando style myself.:crazy:

Geeee...must be nice! Being the only female out of 6 people in my home, I can't do it..:mad:

[maureenv]

There is more. I'll go find it. All the cases on the post referenced here- were nolle prosequi . *Do not pursue* LaLaw posted this is probably because he gave up his supplier to avoid prosecution. This could be very dangerous if true. moo

I'll find the other post with more criminal activity that is more recent.

Yeah...that's not good. Sounds like he may possibly have some dangerous enemies.
Strange though...with this rap sheet...HE got custody of the kids!

[Jersey*Girl]

I am going to start 2 threads, one for media only and one for links to docs, both NO DISCUSSION...Please allow SWAG1959, who so kindly volunteer to go through all 10 threads and put media links up in order, time to work on getting all media links up to date then we can add from there.

I will be back to post links to 2 forums.


Those of you interested in talking about astrology etc, please start a separate thread for discussion on this subject so you can stay organized and not lost in main discussion threads.

TIA.


I just got back & forgot to logoff. My boys wanted Taco Bell! Please let me know if you want any help. I'll volunteer:)

[cajun]

I wish we knew more about the daily routine in this house. Was it the father or g/f that got Haleigh up and ready for school each morning? Who was the primary care giver to the 4 year old brother during the day?

If memory serves me, the reason Ronald worked nights was so he could take and pick up Haleigh from bus stop. It's was posted on one of the first several threads.

[nursebeeme]

did you guys notice that all of the drug charges were on the same day? So the dude had coke, maryjane, meth, opium, etc etc...at the same time! Does that sound like a user or a dealer to you guys?

[gibby207]

17 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS GHB Gender M

All these drug charges makes me think MAYBE this IS drug related. GF could have been just hangin out with some people they owed $$ to....they slipped some GHB in her drink...took Haleigh as collateral till debt paid...???

This offense was from 2002, before Haleigh was even born. Maybe he cleaned up a bit?

[SailorMoon]

I wonder who he testified against, and did they just get out?

Exactly....these people don't take too kindly to being narced on. No matter how long it takes...they will get theirs. Hmm, bless that poor lil girl.

[impatientredhead]

Yeah...that's not good. Sounds like he may possibly have some dangerous enemies.
Strange though...with this rap sheet...HE got custody of the kids!

It appeared in the other thread discussion that mom was actively using at the time of the custody dispute. Keep in mind he got custody of the boy too, who would have been taken from mom at a really young age. There had to be a serious substance abuse issue going on there. And visitation is at Dad's judgement call of safety. The near drowning incident appears to have happened on her watch.

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by Recovering-Lurker
Hopefully he/she got permission to post pics.

"Was able to embed myself with search team. Photos to come shortly.
5 minutes ago from txt"

http://twitter.com/GSReportersI wouldn't recommend fifty people contact TES, but maybe ONE person could be designated to do so. ;) It is a HUGE no no for photos to be taken during searches without expressed permission.

[MeoW333]

We are only supposed to be discussing pertinent things here about George and KFN (not the A fam).

I have asked Marc K. (on his thread) to please take the father under his wing to steer him and the family towards legitimate groups for support. For the father to keep the lines of communication open with LE if he has nothing to hide is imperative and Marc K.'s advice is on target.

KFN is not a legitimate group, imo, and since George has aligned himself with them in the search for Haleigh...we are free to discuss what their motives are here. This is not bashing because it does pertain directly to this case.

Thank God, SS, you are an angel! Please steer him away from them!

[hockeymom]

I'm with the poster who thinks the GF was out somewhere and kept the back door propped open to either hear the kids or to back in the house quickly. I don't think she personally did anything to Haleigh,but either someone took advantage of that situation or Haleigh wondered off and is in the river.
Either way,the girlfriend needs to clear up the story.

[alwaysonmymind]

Not defending dad's previous drug charges AT ALL.
That said, the most recent one was in 2002 - 7 years ago. Even before Haleigh was born. I'm not sure those charges are relevant today, if there aren't any more recent incidents.

And, if dad had custody (which mom fought in a court of law), I'm sure she brought up his past drug history. If I was the judge, first thing I would have done was a random drug test to see if there was concern for any current use.

Dad got custody. That tells me he was at least clean at the time of the test. No further charges, hopefully he got help.

What kind of people do think he was involved with during the drug busts? Could be pretty bad characters.
And maybe he just learned how not to get caught...

I'm thinking if he did turn in his supplier when he was busted in 2002---that guy may have gotten out of prison. This could be revenge for his past actions... MOO

[impatientredhead]

did you guys notice that all of the drug charges were on the same day? So the dude had coke, maryjane, meth, opium, etc etc...at the same time! Does that sound like a user or a dealer to you guys?


Sounds like a drug runner to me. Take these from point A to B and get paid. Steal the drugs and we will kill you. Get picked up by the cops and you do not know us.

[alwaysonmymind]

did you guys notice that all of the drug charges were on the same day? So the dude had coke, maryjane, meth, opium, etc etc...at the same time! Does that sound like a user or a dealer to you guys?

Salesman for a BIG TIME dealer.

[kiki the parrot]

Everything I've heard is about the back door. Has the GF said whether the front door was locked when got up? Did it have a deadbolt too? Could they have come in the front door and left through the back door?

Yes another idea I (and many others probably) posted, exhaustively discussed then lost in the threads... sigh... really hard to read everything I know, by the time you get done you're behind on current one! But basically if rear door was deadbolted by dad as he says and remained locked til bedtime as gf says, then intruder could well have gained access thru front so then propped rear door so as not to be heard nor seen exiting w child. JMO

:parrot:

[gibby207]

Exactly....these people don't take too kindly to being narced on. No matter how long it takes...they will get theirs. Hmm, bless that poor lil girl.

That is an interesting concept here. Remember in the 911 call Ronald was certain someone "stole" his girl and he would kill them like he already knew who it could be.

[anastacia129]

do we know if the gf was living there, or just staying there KWIM? Unless she graduated early or dropped out she should be in school too, no?

I think LE is letting on like they think she was kidnapped, just to let them sink their own ship. Seems to be working thus far. She can't keep her story straight. They both appeared very nervous on Greta last night.

[Jersey*Girl]

I was responding to the poster who thought possibly someone from the family took her to keep her safe or something. I was asking them if that was the case...why wouldn't they take the brother. ;) In other words, it isn't plausible it was a family member taking her for those reasons to me.

Yeah, I agree. They would take Haleigh's brother, also, imo.

[nittany90]

What kind of people do think he was involved with during the drug busts? Could be pretty bad characters.
And maybe he just learned how not to get caught...

I'm thinking if he did turn in his supplier when he was busted in 2002---that guy may have gotten out of prison. This could be revenge for his past actions... MOO

Good point. If he turned in his supplier, revenge could be a motive.

[SeriouslySearching]

Momtective and MeoW~ I don't think it is acceptable to post children's names on here! Ack!

[mydailyopinions]

do we know if the gf was living there, or just staying there KWIM? Unless she graduated early or dropped out she should be in school too, no?

I think LE is letting on like they think she was kidnapped, just to let them sink their own ship. Seems to be working thus far. She can't keep her story straight. They both appeared very nervous on Greta last night.

I agree..

[MyTinkieGirl]

This offense was from 2002, before Haleigh was even born. Maybe he cleaned up a bit?

Oh, yes, definitely....or so we can hope. Hard to quit some of those heavy duty ones - heroin, meth, etc....IF in fact he actually uses. That GBH/ gf comment was just pure speculation...although, sometimes having no record of drug probs from 2002 to present could mean he's just more careful and hasn't been caught lately.....sorry for being negative.

[Jersey*Girl]

2 stickies now on top of missing forum for media/pert links, docs. Please give SWAG time to fill it in and get us current.

ThThThThanks Christine & Swag! Kisses! :blowkiss:

[MeoW333]

do we know if the gf was living there, or just staying there KWIM? Unless she graduated early or dropped out she should be in school too, no?

I think LE is letting on like they think she was kidnapped, just to let them sink their own ship. Seems to be working thus far. She can't keep her story straight. They both appeared very nervous on Greta last night.

Most likely she dropped out of school. She was living there with him, i believe they been together the past 4-6 months from what i've read.

[nursebeeme]

We are only supposed to be discussing pertinent things here about George and KFN (not the A fam).

I have asked Marc K. (on his thread) to please take the father under his wing to steer him and the family towards legitimate groups for support. For the father to keep the lines of communication open with LE if he has nothing to hide is imperative and Marc K.'s advice is on target.

KFN is not a legitimate group, imo, and since George has aligned himself with them in the search for Haleigh...we are free to discuss what their motives are here. This is not bashing because it does pertain directly to this case.
Glad you said that.... I was about to say something and it might have gotten me a time out LOL.... Above all...we are all allowed to respectfully disagree without the namecalling I was reading a few pages back. Thanks for your eloquent way of putting it SS.

I too hope that Marc can get down there and steer that young family away from KFN. They are so very vulnerable, in my opinion...

[Georgia101957]

I sent GSreporters a message via Twitter that if they are embedded with TES, pictures are not allowed. Just fyi, don't know if it will help.

[CeeKer]

We are only supposed to be discussing pertinent things here about George and KFN (not the A fam).

I have asked Marc K. (on his thread) to please take the father under his wing to steer him and the family towards legitimate groups for support. For the father to keep the lines of communication open with LE if he has nothing to hide is imperative and Marc K.'s advice is on target.

KFN is not a legitimate group, imo, and since George has aligned himself with them in the search for Haleigh...we are free to discuss what their motives are here. This is not bashing because it does pertain directly to this case.

Precisely! I can see no good coming out of the A's involvement here. It will only further complicate an already complicated matter.

[the by and by]

Have mixed feelings re A's role there. I think they could be more helpful--and credible--had they helped to look for their own gd, or cooperated fully w LE or had they themselves been totally cleared or never considered immunity. My heart goes out to GA, but I think it's honestly too soon to be of real assistance--much less comfort--to anybody else. And while I understand the desire to want to somehow turn a tragedy into a triumph, we need to first pass our own "test" before we can ever hope to share a "testimony" w others. More important than rallying against the media, the family here needs to be rallying AROUND LE. And rather than contributing to more of a circus-like atmosphere, offering heartfelt prayers, or donating to TES eg, might be the humblest, most effective way of helping. Of course, JMO.
:parrot:

Very well said and I agree. I do think a lot of posters are feeling there is something strange or off about the A's being there, like they are trying to prove(more using this family than genuinely trying to help) how KC could be innocent and how their own GD's 'abduction' could have happened the same way. JMO

[gibby207]

Oh, yes, definitely....or so we can hope. Hard to quit some of those heavy duty ones - heroin, meth, etc....IF in fact he actually uses. That GBH/ gf comment was just pure speculation...although, sometimes having no record of drug probs from 2002 to present could mean he's just more careful and hasn't been caught lately.....sorry for being negative.

Notice my sarcastic "cleaned up a bit." LOL I doubt completely but prolly not dealing or trafficking, at least I hope not...

[mydailyopinions]

Very well said and I agree. I do think a lot of posters are feeling there is something strange or off about the A's being there, like they are trying to prove(more using this family than genuinely trying to help) how KC could be innocent and how their own GD's 'abduction' could have happened the same way. JMO

If this turns out the way I think it will, I think it will help the Anthony's understand how people who can seem so normal can do bad things..
I think they are giving back, and that is a good thing..

[LCoastMom]

I have to defend the g/f not calling 911 for 27 minutes. Unless you have been a crime victim or read WS most people don't realize what a dangerous world that we live in or the evil in some people. When waking up, seeing the light on, checking the house, checking on the kids, your mind doesn't immediately comprehend what may have just happened to you that changes your life forever. Especially at 17 with limited life experience, you just don't expect some people to be cruel. I hope phone records will be able to give us a little more info but for right now I will defend the g/f's actions. I have a 17 year old and I can't imagine her living with a man and being mom to his 2 children. I would imagine her first phone call would be to me to ask what she should do before even thinking about calling 911 because who would ever imagine something the horrible to wake up to.

While I agree I can't imagine most 17 yo's doing what she's doing and for sure can't imagine them doing it well, if anyone were to wake up, find a light on, a door propped open and a child missing. I can't imagine them not calling 911. In an emergency time changes, after placing a call and waiting for help it seems like an eternity, when in fact only minutes have gone by. That 27 minutes, alone in that house would have seemed like forever.

My daughter was 4 or 5, I was sitting in my living room watching a movie (my dd was playing with her toys, in the same room behind me) in the middle of the day, all the kids in the neighborhood were playing in my yard. I realizes my dd was no longer in the room. My 11 yo son came in I asked him what his lil sis was doing, he hadn't seen her. With in 2 minutes everyone was looking for my little girl. Just before calling LE I went and looked in my BR, there she was, for God only knows what reason she had decided to take a bath, didn't tell me and she had fallen asleep in the tub so she didn't hear me calling. The water was still warn, so I know she hadn't been there long.

Less than 5 minutes of searching in broad day lite had gone by. If she had not been in that BR, I would have been calling 911.

[Jersey*Girl]

"All the sex offenders have been interviewed and their residences have been searched," said Putnam County Sheriff Jeff Hardy. "They're cleared as far as us contacting them and speaking to them."

They are only cleared insofar that all of them have been talked to and their homes searched. I did not take that to mean they were completely cleared...

You would be correct. ;) They are only "cleared" as far as LE has contacted them. They are not cleared as possible suspects yet.

Thanks for this info. I only saw where it was said the SO's were cleared...not the whole statement in it's entirety. Thanks so much for the clarification.

[impatientredhead]

Exactly....these people don't take too kindly to being narced on. No matter how long it takes...they will get theirs. Hmm, bless that poor lil girl.

Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.”

Before we had the drug info, this part of dads 911 recording seemed odd to me... like he was talking about someone, someone specific, someone who thinks dad is afraid of prison?

[I AM THE 14 CAR]

wow, the LE does use the word 'cleared' with the SO's. At least all of the cooperated and allowed LE to search all their properties. Goodness, this poor child.

Actually, on HLN this morning, a reporter asked specifically if LE had done searches of the insides of the SO's home and he answered NO.

He mentioned that they were cleared by knowing their whereabouts & doing interviews.

I think LE should have legal open access to any SOs property, especially when a child goes missing.

[doogiesgirl]

What I first noticed about the gf Misty is that when the reporter asked her what happened, she closed her eyes when telling her story, the exact same way that Susan Smith did. Not saying this means she is guilty of anything, it's just the first thing that struck me about her. moo

[SeriouslySearching]

Originally Posted by nursebeeme
did you guys notice that all of the drug charges were on the same day? So the dude had coke, maryjane, meth, opium, etc etc...at the same time! Does that sound like a user or a dealer to you guys?Neebee~ I think we jump to a lot of conclusions when we see this on someone's rap sheet. However, since he isn't incarcerated for all those drugs...maybe they were not his, maybe he was in a home where they were found, or maybe a lot of different scenarios took place at that time we are not privy to yet. We have to look at other possibilities. Maybe they were the bio moms drugs? Who knows?! I am not willing to say he snitched on someone, was selling drugs for some Mexican cartel, or any of the above without knowing why he didn't serve some serious time for those charges.

[MeoW333]

Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.”

Before we had the drug info, this part of dads 911 recording seemed odd to me... like he was talking about someone, someone specific, someone who thinks dad is afraid of prison?

I think he was really upset and saying that to try and get the police to the house as fast as possible. If the police were to think he would possibly kill someone if he found them, they'd get there faster.

[MyTinkieGirl]

notice my sarcastic "cleaned up a bit." lol i doubt completely but prolly not dealing or trafficking, at least i hope not...


lol....

[gibby207]

One would have to guess that LE must have a pretty good lead/idea and not just sitting no nothing as there hasn't been a substantial presser in quite a while....

[PattyCake]

Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.”

Before we had the drug info, this part of dads 911 recording seemed odd to me... like he was talking about someone, someone specific, someone who thinks dad is afraid of prison?


You know what's really bothering me about this? He assumes she is definitely kidnapped and not 'lost' or wandering. I'm not sure I'd jump to that conclusion. My mind as a parent would be screaming for me to think of every other alternative possible and not a kidnapping.

This - his reaction - would not be my response for a 911 call at all. It would only be my response IF my child is found with a kidnapper or dead. Why immediately is he stressing she's with someone he'd have to kill?

In my gut, I am feeling he has played this up too much on the 911 call. My hinkey remains high!

[Indigo]

Ronald is a hunter.(did I understand this correctly?) I wonder if there are any nearby areas where he's been known to hunt, either alone or with a buddy.

[Lexington]

[QUOTE=77NancyDrew;3305365]ITA with you the A's really don't need to be inserting themselves into this case.[/QUOTE

No way no how should they be interfering. There are plenty of family members and friends around for support. The A's did not do an exactly "bang up" job in their own case. Other than handing out flyers, I can't imagine what they can contribute at all. I hope they're not collecting donations again.

[momtective]

Momtective and MeoW~ I don't think it is acceptable to post children's names on here! Ack!

Thanks SS, I fixed it and I'm on my way over to the new thread in the parking lot to fix it there.:blowkiss:

[Ezryder9]

Anybody think we should have a separate thread for questions that need answering? I know I've got a bunch swirling around in my head...and I'm skeered I'll forget 'em.

[nursebeeme]

Neebee~ I think we jump to a lot of conclusions when we see this on someone's rap sheet. However, since he isn't incarcerated for all those drugs...maybe they were not his, maybe he was in a home where they were found, or maybe a lot of different scenarios took place at that time we are not privy to yet. We have to look at other possibilities. Maybe they were the bio moms drugs? Who knows?! I am not willing to say he snitched on someone, was selling drugs for some Mexican cartel, or any of the above without knowing why he didn't serve some serious time for those charges.
I think the biggest thing I think about is that the dude even has a rap sheet at all. It sure makes him more likely to know more shady people than the little old lady next door (LOL....and we all thought Gacey was a nice, quaint man until they found the human skin suits and other various body parts in his house LOL)

[tehcloser]

You know what's really bothering me about this? He assumes she is definitely kidnapped and not 'lost' or wandering. I'm not sure I'd jump to that conclusion. My mind as a parent would be screaming for me to think of every other alternative possible and not a kidnapping. That would not be my response for a 911 call at all. It would only be my response IF my child is found with a kidnapper or dead.

In my gut, I am feeling he has played this up too much on the 911 call. My hinkey remains high!


I agree. My hink is having earthquakes with this whole thing.

[TxMother67]

IIRC, i believe she did say something to that effect.
She also mentioned in another interview that she'd use the back door to take out the garbage..


*Bolded by me* This statement gives me a very sick feeling in my stomach.

[NRN]

Thanks for this info. I only saw where it was said the SO's were cleared...not the whole statement in it's entirety. Thanks so much for the clarification.

And let's remember, this is only the REGISTERED sex offenders. If there are 44 KNOWN ones withiin a 5 mile radius, how many do you s'pose that translates into: that have never been caught, or reported, or are just getting started.

Creepy.

[Recovering-Lurker]

Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.”

Before we had the drug info, this part of dads 911 recording seemed odd to me... like he was talking about someone, someone specific, someone who thinks dad is afraid of prison?

Hmmm.... that is strange.

[impatientredhead]

I think he was really upset and saying that to try and get the police to the house as fast as possible. If the police were to think he would possibly kill someone if he found them, they'd get there faster.

sounds like an adrenaline filled rant to me, which of course is understandable

but if I come home and my child is gone and I believe

a. taken by someone with a vendetta against me- I am likely to rant about that f'n b, how could she do this, I will kill her when I find her, I will shoot her through the cop car window if I have to

or

b. taken by a stranger- who?!?! who would do this?! why? why Haleigh?

[SeriouslySearching]

What I first noticed about the gf Misty is that when the reporter asked her what happened, she closed her eyes when telling her story, the exact same way that Susan Smith did. Not saying this means she is guilty of anything, it's just the first thing that struck me about her. mooWas the interview during the daytime or at night? Would lights used for night time interviews be bright and people not used to them squint or close their eyes?

[tehcloser]

The Mods gave us two new threads. My fear is if we create a bunch of new ones all at once it's going to get to spread out....just sayin' And the one in the lot, visitors can't read.

[Seahorseladydi]

17 CUMMINGS, RONALD LEMYLES 1983-10-29 N/A N/A, N/A N/A N/A
First Name RONALD Middle Name LEMYLES Last Name CUMMINGS
Primary Address N/A City N/A State N/A
ZIP Code N/A Phone Number N/A Date of Birth 1983-10-29
Race WHITE Offense Date 2002-12-12 Source State FL
Offense 0893.13.6A POSSESS GHB Gender M

All these drug charges makes me think MAYBE this IS drug related. GF could have been just hangin out with some people they owed $$ to....they slipped some GHB in her drink...took Haleigh as collateral till debt paid...???

this one stuck out to me too!!! the GHB...... humm...... that is some strong $hit!

I also have to say.... this was back in 2002... maybe he cleaned himself up since then.... but this drug sticks out... still......

[kellync]

What I first noticed about the gf Misty is that when the reporter asked her what happened, she closed her eyes when telling her story, the exact same way that Susan Smith did. Not saying this means she is guilty of anything, it's just the first thing that struck me about her. moo
me too. She has a "look" that says Im lying. Her eyes seem shifty ina way, I cant pinpoint what exactly she does, its more of a feeling.. I have a teenege girl, I know the look. I hope I'm wrong.

[SeriouslySearching]

And let's remember, this is only the REGISTERED sex offenders. If there are 44 KNOWN ones withiin a 5 mile radius, how many do you s'pose that translates into: that have never been caught, or reported, or are just getting started.

Creepy.Include the ones who have absconded and are no longer under the thumb of LE. Florida has tons.

[MeoW333]

Momtective and MeoW~ I don't think it is acceptable to post children's names on here! Ack!

:confused: what where?

[nursebeeme]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=131165&catid=3

first coast is having a one hour special starting at four pm on Haleigh including updates from LE

(can anyone local record this?)

[Indigo]

This statement made by the dad bothers me:

"I'd give my life for my child's life back."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIJOg...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIJOgHjRTDo&feature=related)

at 1:04

It clearly indicates that he at least believes that Hayleigh is deceased.

[Jersey*Girl]

And let's remember, this is only the REGISTERED sex offenders. If there are 44 KNOWN ones withiin a 5 mile radius, how many do you s'pose that translates into: that have never been caught, or reported, or are just getting started.

Creepy.

Exactly! It makes me flat out sick!

[whiteangora]

Ronald Cummings: “they better bring f’ing something out here- because if I get my hands on that mother f’er I’m going to kill him…I don’t give a f%*)@# about prison…mother F’ing prison doesn’t scare me.”

Before we had the drug info, this part of dads 911 recording seemed odd to me... like he was talking about someone, someone specific, someone who thinks dad is afraid of prison?

That sounds very specific, he better spill the beans.

[SeriouslySearching]

MeoW~ They were in the quoted post with all the listings of the myspace pages etc.

[Seahorseladydi]

Also... I have to say this in reguards to the GF sleeping thru all this.... some people are VERY hard sleepers... think about it... do you wake up everytime your husband or sigother gets outta bed? have you woke up every single time your child comes slippin into bed in the middle of the night? I can understand that MAYBE she did sleep thru it...

just my thought..

[kiki the parrot]

I am convinced we can fairly well rule out custody or family dispute related ploy since a sibling was left behind.

JL and Couey notwithstanding, I am also fairly convinced that in order to exit so quietly from such close quarters, Haleigh likely knew her abductor.

This confirms my own impressions of gf (being guilty only of irresponsibility or something less than the worst), and leaves LE to determine what neighbor, relative or familiar druggie "stole" Haleigh. :(

May not be the time to say this nor can we be certain it wasn't a total random stranger either, but wth people don't give more thought to what kind of people they bring around their children is beyond me...

:praying:

JMO

[cajun]

I'm wondering if GF's brother has taken a LDT? Was he really at the house at 5 o'clock, did he see Haleigh? Did he see his sister after 10pm? Did she come over to his house after the kids were in bed? Did she ever leave the kids when they were sleeping and come over his house?
The sheriff indicated the they conducted many tests but wouldn't comment on results or on who took them. I imagine they covered everybody in all 3 families (gfriend, biomom and father)

[MeoW333]

MeoW~ They were in the quoted post with all the listings of the myspace pages etc.

Which page is that on? There's a ton of posts with myspace listed i'm still confused? :confused:

[Indigo]

*Bolded by me* This statement gives me a very sick feeling in my stomach.


That one sent me for a loop too. Especially after the Anthony case...

[maureenv]

I think he was really upset and saying that to try and get the police to the house as fast as possible. If the police were to think he would possibly kill someone if he found them, they'd get there faster.

I agree...I think God forbid if it were my child...I might be cursing quite a bit too. I can't judge the 911 call. He was frantic...maybe that's his way of showing it.

[nursebeeme]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=131165&catid=3

first coast is having a one hour special starting at four pm on Haleigh including updates from LE

(can anyone local record this?) quoting my own self to bump it up.

[LaLaw2000]

Finally caught up! Whew! I like general discussion threads and media threads rather than trying to keep up with 15 different threads!

That LE did not answer the question of whether or not Haleigh had been in school on Monday tells me something. The Dad had said he was at the school bus stop when Haleigh got home from school on Monday, IIRC. That statement is out there. The question is a simple one. I believe that had Haleigh been in school on Monday, LE would have simply stated, "Yes, she was. Next question." Watch and see if there isn't something up with school on Monday.

Go, TM & TES. Volunteers also. I hope there is news today!

[SeriouslySearching]

Also... I have to say this in reguards to the GF sleeping thru all this.... some people are VERY hard sleepers... think about it... do you wake up everytime your husband or sigother gets outta bed? have you woke up every single time your child comes slippin into bed in the middle of the night? I can understand that MAYBE she did sleep thru it...

just my thought..My teens slept through the house alarm going off and I even tested the fire alarm...no response! They slept like rocks without drugs or drinking.

[christine2448]

I locked thread downstairs for pert docs/info becuase we have started a sticky here on missing forum for all public to see just like it.

Thanks!

[Shutterfly]

Also... I have to say this in reguards to the GF sleeping thru all this.... some people are VERY hard sleepers... think about it... do you wake up everytime your husband or sigother gets outta bed? have you woke up every single time your child comes slippin into bed in the middle of the night? I can understand that MAYBE she did sleep thru it...

just my thought..

Okay, let's say for sake of arguement she DID sleep through it. Wouldn't it stand to reason that the person who "stole" Haleigh had to have previous knowledge of the fact that the gf tended to sleep like a rock and wouldn't get up? So how would you be sure of that unless you'd spent time in the same house with a sleeping Misty?

[mydailyopinions]

Also... I have to say this in reguards to the GF sleeping thru all this.... some people are VERY hard sleepers... think about it... do you wake up everytime your husband or sigother gets outta bed? have you woke up every single time your child comes slippin into bed in the middle of the night? I can understand that MAYBE she did sleep thru it...

just my thought..

That was my thought too at first, but then another statement comes out of her mouth that Haleigh is the one who got up and went to the bathroom and when she didn't come back she got up to look for her..
So either way..
If someone come took her out of the bed why didn't she hear it if she can hear her get up and go to the bathroom?

[indicat]

And let's remember, this is only the REGISTERED sex offenders. If there are 44 KNOWN ones withiin a 5 mile radius, how many do you s'pose that translates into: that have never been caught, or reported, or are just getting started.

Creepy.

Yes, we are living in some bad times.:mad:

[Recovering-Lurker]

This statement made by the dad bothers me:

"I'd give my life for my child's life back."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIJOg...eature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIJOgHjRTDo&feature=related)

at 1:04

It clearly indicates that he at least believes that Hayleigh is deceased.

Especially eerie when coupled with the gf saying she "loved" that little girl like she was her own.

[gibby207]

Also... I have to say this in reguards to the GF sleeping thru all this.... some people are VERY hard sleepers... think about it... do you wake up everytime your husband or sigother gets outta bed? have you woke up every single time your child comes slippin into bed in the middle of the night? I can understand that MAYBE she did sleep thru it...

just my thought..

Good point. Me: Light sleeper. I wake up to the sound of a spider walking on the wall. My husband: Heavy sleeper. He wouldn't wake up for armageddon.

[wallflower67]

Why wouldn't they also take her little brother? :waitasec:

because the perp likes girls? or two kids are harder to carry than one? Or the gf, if guilty, only lost her temper on the one kid.

the 3yo is old enough to talk.

[JenBMomto3]

*3:00PM Monday night Haleigh's dad goes to work
*5:00PM Monday night visit from Misty's Brother and Nephews
*8:00 PM Monday night Junior and Haleigh were put in bed
*8-10 PM Monday Night Misty stayed up washing Blanket cleaning and taking out trash.
*10:00PM Monday night Checked the back door then Misty G/F went to bed in same bed as Junior different bed than Haleigh BUT same room
*3:00AM Tuesay Morning Misty gets up to go to bathroom notices light in kitchen on, sees back door propped with cinder block WIDE open
*3:00AM Tuesday morning Haleigh's Dad leaves work to come home
* AM Tuesday morning call placed to 911
*3:49AM Tuesday morning Haleigh's Dad's Mom Calls Bio-mom of Haleigh (Crystal) to tell her Haleigh is missing

Just trying to see how things played out I know we dont have a definite of Haleigh attending school for the day anything I missed/ messed up?

[lorilei]

How can I find out if there are any SO in my community? There being 44 in that community just makes me sick.

[tehcloser]

That was my thought too at first, but then another statement comes out of her mouth that Haleigh is the one who got up and went to the bathroom and when she didn't come back she got up to look for her..
So either way..
If someone come took her out of the bed why didn't she hear it if she can hear her get up and go to the bathroom?


If any of you have been in a mobile home you know that just walking and moving around in them...makes noise. Not like a home with a solid foundation. I think you could tell the difference between a child moving around and an adult moving around. I guess I am trying to say if she knew she got up to go to the bathroom...she would have heard someone else in there.

[SeriouslySearching]

I am convinced we can fairly well rule out custody or family dispute related since a sibling was left behind.

JL and Couey notwithstanding, I am also fairly convinced that in order to exit so quietly from such close quarters, Haleigh likely knew her abductor.

This confirms my own impressions of gf (being guilty only of irresponsibility or something less than the worst), and leaves LE to determine what neighbor, relative or familiar druggie "stole" Haleigh. :(

May not be the time to say this nor can we be certain it wasn't a total random stranger either, but wth people don't give more thought to what kind of people they bring around their children is beyond me...

:praying:

JMOI have to respectfully disagree that we can rule out bio mom etc. (custody or dispute) because both children were not taken. My list of Xs in that column for motive is growing. ;)

[christine2448]

How can I find out if there are any SO in my community? There being 44 in that community just makes me sick.

http://www.familywatchdog.us/

this is one of a few out there you can use to check.


and another

http://www.nsopw.gov/Core/Conditions.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

[maureenv]

My teens slept through the house alarm going off and I even tested the fire alarm...no response! They slept like rocks without drugs or drinking.

I slept through a tree coming through my house, during hurricane Gloria. I was about 18 y/o. I wasn't on anything AND it was a nap in the middle of the day. I wish I could sleep like that now!

[nursebeeme]

*3:00PM Monday night Haleigh's dad goes to work
*5:00PM Monday night visit from Misty's Brother and Nephews
*8:00 PM Monday night Junior and Haleigh were put in bed
*8-10 PM Monday Night Misty stayed up washing Blanket cleaning and taking out trash.
*10:00PM Monday night Checked the back door then Misty G/F went to bed
*3:00AM Tuesay Morning Misty gets up to go to bathroom notices light in kitchne on, sees back door propped with cinder block WIDE open
*3:00AM Tuesday morning Haleigh's Dad leaves work to come home
* AM Tuesday morning call placed to 911
*3:49AM Tuesday morning Haleigh's Dad's Mom Calls Bio-mom of Haleigh (Crystal) to tell her Haleigh is missing

Just trying to see how things played out I know we dont have a definite of Haleigh attending school for the day anything I missed/ messed up?
Dad stated the last time he saw Haleigh was when he picked her up from the bus stop (from school) This was in a video interview.

[SeriouslySearching]

How can I find out if there are any SO in my community? There being 44 in that community just makes me sick.Check your local LE website. If available, they will have a list.

[Georgia101957]

How can I find out if there are any SO in my community? There being 44 in that community just makes me sick.


Assuming you are in Kansas :)


http://www.accesskansas.org/kbi/ro.shtml

[lorilei]

Thank you.

[kellync]

because the perp likes girls? or two kids are harder to carry than one? Or the gf, if guilty, only lost her temper on the one kid.

the 3yo is old enough to talk.
Bolded by me....
maybe if she wet the bed 2 nights in a row

[GRANNYL]

I wouldn't recommend fifty people contact TES, but maybe ONE person could be designated to do so. ;) It is a HUGE no no for photos to be taken during searches without expressed permission.

I JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH TIM AND READ THE POST TO HIM. YOU CAN JUST IMAGINE HIS ANGER. I WON'T REPEAT WHAT HE SAID!! LOL!!

HE WANTS TO KNOW HOW TO TRACE TO THE PERSON EMBEDDED. IF YOU KNOW HOW PLEASE LET ME KNOW. HE WILL BE ON THE LOOKOUT IN THE MEANTIME. TOLD HIM I WOULD CALL HIM BACK ONCE PICTURES ARE POSTED SO HE CAN SEE THEM AND MAYBE FIGURE OUT WHO THE PERSON IS.

THANKS,
GRANNYL:furious:

[Ezryder9]

The Mods gave us two new threads. My fear is if we create a bunch of new ones all at once it's going to get to spread out....just sayin' And the one in the lot, visitors can't read.

Guess I'd better go to the p/l and check things out. And I'm gonna jot my questions down on paper (yep, I still use that) and see if they get answered! Thanks, teh!

[cajun]

[quote=77NancyDrew;3305365]ITA with you the A's really don't need to be inserting themselves into this case.[/QUOTE

No way no how should they be interfering. There are plenty of family members and friends around for support. The A's did not do an exactly "bang up" job in their own case. Other than handing out flyers, I can't imagine what they can contribute at all. I hope they're not collecting donations again.

Sorry to burst your hope bubble. Did you catch George's press conference yesterday? he got angry with the reporters and talked about "we" at Kidfinders have done flyers and "we" need donations and the family needs donations..I stopped watching at that point

[jblfelines]

quoting my own self to bump it up.

Thanks for the information

[SeriouslySearching]

because the perp likes girls? or two kids are harder to carry than one? Or the gf, if guilty, only lost her temper on the one kid.

the 3yo is old enough to talk.LOL I guess I need to go remove that post. I was responding to someone saying the girl was taken by a family member to a "safer" environment. I don't feel it is a plausible scenario since they did not take both children. ;)

[MeoW333]

Momtective and MeoW~ I don't think it is acceptable to post children's names on here! Ack!

SS, i can't find which post you mean, did i have it qouted? If i did, i was unaware children's names were mentioned. I looked through this whole thread and i can't find it?