Misty C.

[6angels]

what is your thought on Misty? Do you think she is involved? If so why? If not why?

[pirate]

I think she is involved to the extent that the kids were in her care when Haleigh disappeared.

I'm not sure I believe that she did anything to Haleigh- but I think she may have acted irresponsibly- either hanging with unsavory characters while Ron was at work or even leaving the kids alone while their father was at work.

[babycat]

what is your thought on Misty? Do you think she is involved? If so why? If not why?


I think she is not telling the truth about what happened, but I'm not convinced she directly hurt/did something to Haleigh. I think she is lying about where she was, probably. She knows more than she is saying.

[Angelonline]

I think Misty is NOT telling the whole truth. I think she def. knows more than she is saying. I am leaning towards she did not not hurt Haleigh herself, though I am not 100% certain. So many things seem to point back to her in one way or another.

O/T Thank you to "the powers that be" for finally giving us a forum for precious little Haleigh. :clap:

[Anita Richman]

I think Misty is guilty of at least negligence in leaving the children alone.

At worst, I think Misty snapped & injured/murdered Hayleigh and had an accomplice dispose of Hayleigh's body.

[ROBLYN]

i think she may have been negligent in some way-shape-form...And Scarrred to tell the truth! i hope she has come clean, and Haleigh is found.

Then i think anyone involved should be prosecuted for any negligent behavior towards both children.imvho


Of course... in addition to any and all possible charges against whomever took Haleigh. I do still believe she was taken....but that could change too...Uggggg...

Please Misty Tell The TRUTH! It's really not that hard!!

[Paintr]

I think she is not telling the truth about what happened, but I'm not convinced she directly hurt/did something to Haleigh. I think she is lying about where she was, probably. She knows more than she is saying.

I agree. I can see her leaving the sleeping children but not hurting Haleigh directly. But I have been wrong before. :)

[Cher352]

I have a hard time fiquring her out. Sorry to say she seems as dumb as a rock, she seems a very hard time expressing herself, ie the blankets story.

The other night she stated the beds were 3-4 inches apart and RC says no like 3 feet apart. Now we also know what shirt she reported Haleigh wearing was not true. And either her story keep changing or it is because of the way she talks.

I agree, I think she knows more than we have heard but it is all so confusing.

[txsvicki]

I don't know if Misty was involved, but I think a female propped open the back screen door so something could be carried out. Men would just open the door with their body, but a woman would prop the door. The blanket washing and missing blanket is hinky to me also. If Misty is involved she must have had help if there was no vehicle at home for her to drive. Hayleighs scent was tracked to the railroad tracks, so she must have been taken away in a vehicle.

[Searchfortruth]

I hope soon we will know more and Haleigh will be brought home. I just keep going back and forth on this one, it very well could go in a couple of directions right now. I am in hopes that the people closest to Haleigh did not hurt her, the statistics and some of the story's given make me nervous.

[mazajo]

I've suspected from early on that she wasn't home when Haleigh disappeared. I think the person that took Haleigh is somehow connected to Misty, maybe somebody that she partied with that she had had over to the trailer before.

Misty reminds me SO MUCH of a teenage girl I used to live next door to. Tries very hard to sound grown up and smart, and she isn't really stupid, just uneducated. I think she's scared to death of RC, and with good reason.

[impatientredhead]

I think she is guilty involved via negligence by either being out of the home while they slept, or by drug use.

If it is by drug use then a lot of responsibility shifts to dad for me.

The only other option to me is she knows exactly what happened and is covering for someone she cares deeply about, ie a family member or someone she is afraid of, ie her dealer.

[gogrannypop]

I've suspected from early on that she wasn't home when Haleigh disappeared. I think the person that took Haleigh is somehow connected to Misty, maybe somebody that she partied with that she had had over to the trailer before.

Misty reminds me SO MUCH of a teenage girl I used to live next door to. Tries very hard to sound grown up and smart, and she isn't really stupid, just uneducated. I think she's scared to death of RC, and with good reason.

ITA with you about her being afraid of RC. I personally think she fears him more than anything or anyone else.

I think she was away from the home. I haven't watched any of her interviews and after reading all of these threads, I believe she was away.

[Gypsy Road]

I think Misty is a child herself, and a victim of past abuse - which clouds her judgement. I also think she is not being truthful. I don't think she intentionally harmed Haleigh, but I do believe she was negligent and not taking care of her. Either something happened (an accident) to her because Misty wasn't watching, or somebody took her because Misty wasn't watching - or they (the children) were out of her care completely.

[aprilshowers]

Have any of you thought of the possibility that Misty had somebody over to the house, they drank or smoked together ... and HE made sure she was drunk/high enough to pass out or at least enough for him to take Haleigh?

Just a thought ...

[Gypsy Road]

Have any of you thought of the possibility that Misty had somebody over to the house, they drank or smoked together ... and HE made sure she was drunk/high enough to pass out or at least enough for him to take Haleigh?

Just a thought ...
YES! This is exactly what I've thought!

And maybe she didn't just "fall asleep" and wake up later...maybe she was passed out on drugs and woke up to find Haleigh gone.

[aprilshowers]

YES! This is exactly what I've thought!

And maybe she didn't just "fall asleep" and wake up later...maybe she was passed out on drugs and woke up to find Haleigh gone.

Yup! By the way, I brought this question over to the 'What do you think happened to Haleigh' thread ... since there's such little activity here, if you want to peek in and see if anybody comments there. :)

[passionflower]

Why was Misti gone for 3 days and then came back?
Trouble? fighting? we need to know more about where she
was and who she was with and find out more about that 'weekend'
gone FRI, SAT, SUn and came back MON? or is this not true.
It was on NG tonight thread.

[Dtronic]

Have any of you thought of the possibility that Misty had somebody over to the house, they drank or smoked together ... and HE made sure she was drunk/high enough to pass out or at least enough for him to take Haleigh?

Just a thought ...

I think she would have told (by now if not alot sooner) if someone was there.
IMO she left the trailer after H was asleep and when she she came back H was missing.

[impatientredhead]

Why was Misti gone for 3 days and then came back?
Trouble? fighting? we need to know more about where she
was and who she was with and find out more about that 'weekend'
gone FRI, SAT, SUn and came back MON? or is this not true.
It was on NG tonight thread.

It is a rumor at this point. It has been on several blogs, but I only posted it after I heard it reported on a local Tampa radio show. They spent some time discussing the case and somewhat comparing it to the Anthony case. They said that "word on the street" is that Misti was gone for the three days prior on a drug binge, and that Ron went and found her and brought her home the day this happened. I was shocked to hear it on the air, but everyone was discussing it like it was common knowledge down there.

[passionflower]

It is a rumor at this point. It has been on several blogs, but I only posted it after I heard it reported on a local Tampa radio show. They spent some time discussing the case and somewhat comparing it to the Anthony case. They said that "word on the street" is that Misti was gone for the three days prior on a drug binge, and that Ron went and found her and brought her home the day this happened. I was shocked to hear it on the air, but everyone was discussing it like it was common knowledge down there.

If she was gone on a drug binge then she woulod be exhausted and wasted and agravated with yelling kids, IMO
Let us know if it is a fact, I bet the town is talking!
Family lying to help Misti.
Ron for his custody.

[Gypsy Road]

I think she would have told (by now if not alot sooner) if someone was there.
IMO she left the trailer after H was asleep and when she she came back H was missing.

Hmm...I don't know, but a relative has come forward to say that Misti was home and she doesn't believe Misti left the house after the realitve visited. I think it was RC's mom who said this.

[MeoW333]

Misty needs to come clean about what happened that night, if anything to just clear herself say if she was just passed out drunk or on drugs or wasn't home. She's got major issues since all she cares about is saving her own aZZ when a 5 year old's life may be on the line. Their is no excuse other than that she may not be talking if she is directed related to Haleigh's death. You would think she would at least want to clear her name if it's something as if she wasn't home, or passed out drunk; then at least people wouldn't suspect her of murder..

[kellync]

I think Misty is much more street smart than she looks
Also, in my opinion, she either knows what happened to Haleigh, or she played a part in it
I think she is afraid to lose Ronald, thus losing her place to live, a place where she could be the woman of the house, something she has never experienced, remember, she is new at this
She is proud to have Ronald as her boyfriend, he would protect her against any percieved or actual threats, and this is probably very foreign to her. Her own parents dont seem to be doing it.
I get the impression she uses alcohol and drugs, no proof, but I would bet the farm.
She is surrounded by people who are at best, very disfunctional.
I also think she would do ANYTHING to keep herself with Ronald i.e. her home and her version of stability. This includes lie until the bitter end about what happened that night. The longer this goes on, the more she digs her heels in.
I also think she is a very bad actress

[Mamie]

If Misty is using, I would like to know what her drug of choice is. I mean is she using pain pills, alcohol, pot, meth or what? And if Ronald had to go find her, why would he leave her with his kids?

It is no wonder that Misty doesn't know feet from inches.

I haven't been too critical of the age difference between Misty and Ronald, but I am beginning to think everyone involved is dysfunctional.

[Paintr]

Hmm...I don't know, but a relative has come forward to say that Misti was home and she doesn't believe Misti left the house after the realitve visited. I think it was RC's mom who said this.

Yes, RC's Mom said on NG tonight that she knew that Misti was there up to a certain time because a relative dropped off clothes to the house. She further stated she believed that Misti was there later too. I guess cause she believes Misti.

[kellync]

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx

Found this tonight, I hope the link works

[Littleone48]

Remember when the 911 operator asked Misti the numeric # of her house? She didn't know what the word numeric meant. Sad! That girl could use some more schooling.

I am college educated but in a stressful situation if someone asked me what's my "numeric" # of my house I probably would have taken a couple of seconds to understand the question. Now if they ask what's my address I would've responded right away.

Unless you have been around people like this you cannot understand how or why they act or speak the way they do. It doesn't make them bad people it just, well, makes them appear to be uneducated.

I am from Upstate NY and whenever I went home I would cringe at some of the things that they would say. Even my own family and many of them are college educated. They are products of their enviroment and to most that live around them, it's okay. They are "simple" people and I am saying that with a-lot of love in my heart.

[Littleone48]

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx

Found this tonight, I hope the link works

Thank you. In my heart I don't think she had anything to do with this. I really think it was one of the many SO's that live around there.

Where this home is located someone could have watched for days without anyone seeing them.

[winterrose]

I think she's come from a family with domestic problems,especially since she's not been living with family since very young.In time,we'll probably find out why she's had to go from home to home of other family members.According to her,also possibly a child molester in her family,which any child in contact with her would be in danger of child molestation and should have been strictly supervised at all times.I also think she has possible drug problems,because seeing myspace comments,pics and both her brothers myspace sites they are drug related.And at even the age of fourteen pics of her and sister in law according to her sister in law's captions and other pics,drinking.This was no environment for a child to live in at home or other family members homes where drugs and drinking are involved.But,I can say the same for the bio mother,from her myspace pics.I also believe since the grandmother stated tonight on Greta and Nancy Grace family members were sent to check up on the children,it speaks to me that she found cause in the safety of the children or if the gf was there at the house.Grandma said gf was responsible,if she was responsible,why would she feel it was necessary to check on the children?

[shgrbkr]

I thought it was weird that she would say to the dad, "The back door is open and YOUR DAUGHTER's gone." Why wouldn't she call her by name? Just very strange and leaves the door open to possibility that she was doing something she shouldn't or knows more than she's saying. I don't believe that she's in the clear completely.

[winterrose]

kellync
Thank you for that link,I hadn't seen this interview,now I have more questions.What in the world does this mean....

Croslin and Ronald Cummings reported Haleigh missing around 3:30 a.m. last Tuesday. The little girl's brother was also there.

"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said.
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So now she's saying the little brother walked out of the room?What is wrong with this girl?Everytime she talks it's a new story.This was not normal,I am wondering if drugs were involved,the boy is too little to be up and out of the room by himself if she went to sleep at 10:30.She previously said the children were asleep and she went to bed at 10:30.

[winterrose]

I think the back door was unlocked,Haleigh turned the light on and someone's came in and got her or she walked out the door.If the boy was up when gf laid down and walked out of the room,it's a wonder he didn't go out the door,also.I have five children and you can never say your child won't ever do anything,you never know what they'll do next.They need to drag that river,if they haven't already.

[jaimie43]

Has anyone ever heard that Misty was living with one of her brothers and he kicked her out? While sleuthing the internet I found this...
http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=367&nav=messages&webtag=ab-crime&tid=20761

Scroll down to the message from "Finn" to "lindsaygriff" (and wasnt the last name Griff thrown around a bit on the boards here?)

[winterrose]

I am getting a theory in my head of the new story of the boy leaving her room after she laid down.She's placing the boy not in her room sleeping with her,which means he might have been in another room.So if she's afraid he's told people that she wasn't there where he was sleeping,she could say he was sleepwalking and doesn't remember sleeping with her or who knows what she's thinking,she's told so many stories.I feel as confused as when I was trying to figure out KC.I am definitely getting the feeling this girl is more complicated than we thought,not this young girl that's overwhelmed by what's happened.Anybody else getting this feeling?

[winterrose]

Did you see the bio Mom and her mother on interview with Shep on Fox,when asked what they thought about Misty.Bio mom didn't say anything and looked at her Mom,they just looked at each other for an instant and just said they didn't know.They are not saying what they know,I feel it,they either don't want to endanger being able to see Jr. or have been asked not to talk about the investigation.

[jaimie43]

I have the feeling that whatever happened in that trailer that night is way more sinister on Mistys part than we could have ever imagined. Im starting to see her in a different light.

[itsreenw]

I wonder if Misty laid down and the kids weren't ready to go to sleep so she propped the door open to allow the kids to run in and out of the house without disturbing her sleep and when she finally did wake up, Haleigh was gone.

[claudicici]

...I think she propped it open so she could go in and out without anyone noticing.IMO the kids were asleep when she left

[tehcloser]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18738704/detail.html

Girlfriend Under Investigation In Missing Girl Case


The "tone" of the media in telling the story is starting to change...

[yolorado]

At this point, I'm just not getting vibes that she had anything to do with taking Haleigh or hurting her, but facts are sparse at this point and vibes not fool proof. This seems like an non 'family' acquaintence/stranger abduction to me. Not sayin' that Misty was a paragon of motherhood, or even babysitterhood, but no barely 17 year-old should have to be. She shouldn't have been in 25 year-old Ron's bed, or responsible for his home and his children. She should have been in school, studying, becoming her own person, planning for and working toward a life in which she was prepared to take care of herself and others. In many ways, Misty's a victim too of this whole lifestyle which is apparently accepted in her community. I hope to God that little Haleigh's ok. That's the most important hope. But Misty should have never been in the position she was. I also hope for the families and communities of teenaged girls to see that as well and to lead their daughters far away from such dead-end and destructive paths.

[yolorado]

Can charges be brought against a 17 yr old for leaving the children?

Maybe, but juvenille, IMO, unless she is somehow responsible for Haleigh's demise which, again imo she probably is not, and hopefully there is no demise. The big gun neglect and abuse charges should be brought against the man who bedded Misty and neglected his children by leaving them too much in the care of his 16-17 year old squeeze. Seriously here, a 25 year old guy doin' a 16-17 year old would be headed toward court and the SO list. I'm just baffled that few in FL seem to bat an eye. Seems like the people all around this 'family' were perfectly ok with it. Misty should have been in school building a life for herself and for the future, not playing house with a 25 year old guy who was more than willing to let her.

[TxLady2]

If Misty left the house for a period of time that night, and Haleigh was taken during that time, then she will probably face charges of some kind. Not sure what the law is there.
I wonder if this story that she was gone for 3 days on a binge is true.
It breaks my heart that a girl her age is living in that situation, playing wife and mom and cooking/cleaning/doing laundry like a grownup... when she should be in high school, planning her senior prom, dating and having fun. Being a wife and mom 24/7 is not that much fun, especially if the kids are not your own, no matter how much you "love" the guy.

[winterrose]

I am very interested in the background of Misty's habits,does she have a lying problem?Remember in the KC case,years of lying,according to friends.I hope this is not the same personality,unrefined by years of practice.Drugs are also at play here.We can't go by pics of her and children,as in KC's case,you would never know she was suspect.She looked like a loving mother with her child.Why did kids beg to not go back to Dad's house and was this just a recent thing?If RC's Mom sent relatives to check up on the kids,was that the reason Misty's brother also stopped by for only half an hour?He lived so close,he could have just called.When I see her w/RC,not on camera,she carries herself with a whole different demeanor while she's smoking her cigarette and walking with him.I don't think this is the little confused,overwrought child we've come to think.She had left home young,lived up with relatives in Michigan,then in with her brother or both,from myspace pics,then RC,why so many places?

[catch_22]

i'm wondering if LE knows that misty is responsible for all of this, BUT she is a minor and was questioned/gave statements without a lawyer or parental consent. therefore, her statements/inconsistencies wouldn't be able to be used against her in court?

[tehcloser]

I just hope LE are watching all of her interviews and caught the van remark.

[winterrose]

I want to point this out,Misty has two big brothers,my youngest daughter has three big brothers,if there was any question of thier sister being suspect of anything,they would have been on tv already defending her.Not one of Misty's siblings or wives have come to be interviewed.Why is that?Is there family problems,problems with Misty or are they afraid of being questioned on thier own lifestyles?There are problems there we are yet to hear.IMO

[winterrose]

I hope they have caught the cbs interview we just read last night,with her saying Jr was awake when she laid down and he walked out of the room,but she just went to sleep,another story,ugh.

[catch_22]

I hope they have caught the cbs interview we just read last night,with her saying Jr was awake when she laid down and he walked out of the room,but she just went to sleep,another story,ugh.

i saw that article this morning. WOW. i really couldn't make much sense of it, but it did sound like another different story.

[kellync]

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx

Found this tonight, I hope the link works


Yeah, its weird, just like everything else in this case

[kellync]

So, basically, she was soooo tired, she laid down and saw a 4 year old get up, but she was sooooo tired, he walked out of the room and she just faded into sleep....WOW

[MeoW333]

Yeah, its weird, just like everything else in this case

Is Misty referring to Jr in the link??

""I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said."
http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx

If she is, then she should have drank a cup of coffee until she made sure that toddler was sound asleep! Instead she just lets herself pass out.. ugh

[ksgirl78]

Oh mercy!

I still hear my 14 yr. old son when he gets up in the middle of the night, whether to get a drink or use the restroom, and get up and see what he is doing and if he is okay, and he is leaving his bedroom...not mine! There are many nights I am tired as all get out and do not want to get up, but I do it anyway!

[winterrose]

"Croslin and Ronald Cummings reported Haleigh missing around 3:30 a.m. last Tuesday. The little girl's brother was also there.
"I remember him being up...I was half asleep...That was right after I laid down...Got up and walked out of my room...And the next thing I know I was out. I don't remember nothing after that," Croslin said."
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Sounds like,I think she's in trouble either way.If nothing else,there could be child neglect.I said on another section,she's explaining why her and Jr were not in same room sleeping now,if Jr has told someone he was not sleeping in bed with her.Maybe,this is a cover story,or another one,I'm confused,feel I'm in the KC case again,but not.:bang:

[kellync]

Oh mercy!

I still hear my 14 yr. old son when he gets up in the middle of the night, whether to get a drink or use the restroom, and get up and see what he is doing and if he is okay, and he is leaving his bedroom...not mine! There are many nights I am tired as all get out and do not want to get up, but I do it anyway!
The way the man who used to live in the trailer describes it you could hear much creaking in that trailer, he said no one could walk in and out without being heard "unless you were in a drunken stupor"
Things that make ya go hmmmmmmm

[winterrose]

Maybe Haleigh turned the light on if her and Jr were awake.I'm sure if the a/c man went in and out of that door,in interview he would have told LE,he's been cleared.Then again,we are not being told what people are saying.There was her brother,kids running around,a/c man,she neglected to say RC's relatives had stopped by,so are there more people that night?That is alot of confusion,anyone could have unlocked that door.Now that her story has changed and the boy was awake,was Haleigh?She did mention Haliegh was in front of the tv,is tv in bedroom or living room?Did Haleigh take off her clothes herself to put pjs on?My 4 yo gs changes clothes all the time,he thinks he's a handsome boy,tells me all the time and loves clothes,too much like his Dad.:)

[winterrose]

Confusion,changing stories,fake crying,ending sentences with,that's all I know,(a sign that they don't want to be questioned anymore),closing eyes,this is all not good and why people are leaning more to her direction,because this is starting to look worse.The blanket thing is seriously worrying me.

[jaimie43]

It seems to me that Misty didnt know ANYTHING at all about that night. Like she didnt even live there..too strange.

[AuburnJenn]

It seems to me that Misty didnt know ANYTHING at all about that night. Like she didnt even live there..too strange.

I think it's called booze, meth, weed, coming off a 3-day drug and booze binge, etc. There is no doubt something is clouding her judgment and memory.

[Recovering-Lurker]

It seems to me that Misty didnt know ANYTHING at all about that night. Like she didnt even live there..too strange.

Or staying for several days on meth or something similar. :mad:

[sega-sleuth]

"Croslin talked about how tired she was the night Haleigh disappeared. "I was over-exhausted. I was real tired. I had a long weekend," she said."
http://www.cbs47.com/content/topstories/story/Misty-Croslin-Speaks-Out/S6tHGGMFp0OZfPGkzJ4_pg.cspx

It has been mentioned, saw it was a rumor that she had been gone for 3 days and just came back on Monday.........Anyone else remember hearing this? Wonder what long weekend she had.........could be very telling if we knew more.

[winterrose]

And who was she with,were they ticked off she went back to RC?

[INQUIRING MINDS]

I was wondering if anyone knows?
Does Misty drive?
Does she own a vehicle or did she have access to one the night Haleigh disappeared?
If she left was it on foot? In a vehicle she was driving, or would someone have picked her up?
Who would cover for her if she wasn't there that night.? Only family or a Lover IMO.
Also, If the back door was locked, that means that entry from anyone would have been through the front door. Why then, would you leave through the back door, If your car was parked out front. Unless you were on foot, within walking distance.
Just some food for thought.....

[ksgirl78]

I don't think we know for sure if Misty drives or has a Drivers License. I do believe that during one of the pressers, a reporter asked if Misty had access to or owned a car and they said no comment, as usual!

[not_my_kids]

Investigators searching for a missing Florida girl say $16,000 dollars in rewards have been offered for information about Haleigh Cummings.

This comes as the 17-year-old girlfriend of the girl's father is changing her story.

"Front door. I went out the front door. I never went out the back door," Croslin says.

Misty Croslin now tells us she did go out on the front porch to smoke a cigarette the night 5-year old Haleigh disappeared.


More at link
http://www.cbs12.com/news/reward_471...leigh_say.html

[blubuni99]

Investigators searching for a missing Florida girl say $16,000 dollars in rewards have been offered for information about Haleigh Cummings.

This comes as the 17-year-old girlfriend of the girl's father is changing her story.

"Front door. I went out the front door. I never went out the back door," Croslin says.

Misty Croslin now tells us she did go out on the front porch to smoke a cigarette the night 5-year old Haleigh disappeared.


More at link
http://www.cbs12.com/news/reward_471...leigh_say.html

Misty Croslin is really starting to anger me. Why does she keep changing her story?!? This is just getting nuts. I swear, I'd rather hear "I don't know" than someone just making stuff up because they don't remember. Geesh!!! :furious:

Did NG talk about this story tonight?

[not_my_kids]

Misty Croslin is really starting to anger me. Why does she keep changing her story?!? This is just getting nuts. I swear, I'd rather hear "I don't know" than someone just making stuff up because they don't remember. Geesh!!! :furious:

Did NG talk about this story tonight?

NG was all Caylee. (I cried, fiance cried, dog thought we were nuts.)

As for Misty, she has had me ticked from the day that I actually go t interested in this case. Her act, her tears, her voice, her lies. I don't have an issue with her age, but just her level of maturity and obvious inablility to tell the truth (or remember it) makes me wonder why anyone would consider her a fit caregiver at any age, 17 or 70.

[blubuni99]

NG was all Caylee. (I cried, fiance cried, dog thought we were nuts.)

As for Misty, she has had me ticked from the day that I actually go t interested in this case. Her act, her tears, her voice, her lies. I don't have an issue with her age, but just her level of maturity and obvious inablility to tell the truth (or remember it) makes me wonder why anyone would consider her a fit caregiver at any age, 17 or 70.

I did believe her at first but the more and more that comes out, the more I'm starting to believe she DID have something to do with it. Why change your story? Or why add on 'yeah, I went outside to smoke.... out the FRONT door...'?? Was she saying before that she didn't go outside at all? And yeah, like I believe that, Misty. UGH! I could not be more frustrated right now. :banghead::furious::devil::steamed::rage:

[Theonly1]

I don't know if Misty was involved, but I think a female propped open the back screen door so something could be carried out. Men would just open the door with their body, but a woman would prop the door. The blanket washing and missing blanket is hinky to me also. If Misty is involved she must have had help if there was no vehicle at home for her to drive. Hayleighs scent was tracked to the railroad tracks, so she must have been taken away in a vehicle.

I was thinking about this too. I totally agree that a female likely propped the backdoor with the cinderblock. It just seems like something a girl would do. Factor in that Misty is small and young and it would seem like she would be the likely candidate to prop open a door.

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think there is any doubt she is lying. Now..what she is lying about is the question.

[winterrose]

Just for FYI peeps,Misty hasn't been on her myspace today,first time since Sunday afternoon.Just saying,in light of RC and CS being called in today and Misty going to be interviewed about that night this morning,think it means something?

[winterrose]

Something's up,Lindsey just set her myspace to private.

[3dogmom]

Something's up,Lindsey just set her myspace to private.

maybe 30k hits a day?

[SeriouslySearching]

Makes me wonder how she is getting on myspace...brother's house? I know it isn't from the tent!

[not_my_kids]

Just for FYI peeps,Misty hasn't been on her myspace today,first time since Sunday afternoon.Just saying,in light of RC and CS being called in today and Misty going to be interviewed about that night this morning,think it means something?

I hope it means that she is in the middle of a marathon interrogation session, where she is confronted with her lies.
Or in a pretty little holding cell...where the blankets are conveniently all in the wash. :bang:

[3dogmom]

Just for FYI peeps,Misty hasn't been on her myspace today,first time since Sunday afternoon.Just saying,in light of RC and CS being called in today and Misty going to be interviewed about that night this morning,think it means something?

Before yesterday the 17th, Misty had not been on her myspace for 3 or 4 days. I think last login was 2/15

[not_my_kids]

Makes me wonder how she is getting on myspace...brother's house? I know it isn't from the tent!


Maybe someone's cell phone if she still doesn't have access to a computer?
If so, I hope LE finds it and seizes it.

[FlaSleuth]

I don't think she did anything. I think she is a terrible witness, but I don't think she did anything to the child. I think people who are either trained in the law or in LE, or the self-trained folks who follow cases out of interest, give the average joe way too much credit. In our day-to-day lives, we have great flexibility in our spoken word. I can tell you I "never get any sun" or I "never drive at night" and in normal conversation, this is understood as me saying I don't "usually" do those things. I can also tell you I "worked all weekend" or even that I "sat at my computer all afternoon" when in reality I might mean I worked for 4-5 hours each weekend day, and that I was at my computer most of the time, except when I got up to get a drink, go to the bathroom, head to starbucks, etc., etc.

The average American speaks in generalization, hyperbole and exaggeration pretty much every day. This tendency is even stronger among less educated people, and people who have not had professional jobs, because these are people who have not been critiqued or really challenged in their spoken words, and because these verbal communication habits also go hand in hand with a fatalistic world view. So I think everything Misty has said about that evening is true, and the perceived mistakes are due to this communication issue and how she is generalizing and not really thinking out her answers before the words come out of her mouth.

Now, that said, I do think there is a chance she left that night or had a visitor someplace nearby. But for all we know, she admitted that part very early on and it was LE and the media that chose not to release it. But everything else from that night I think is the truth, but it's mangled up because she is not used to having anyone hang on her words. She probably has never really had anyone actively listen to her in her life and is probably only used to speaking words in stream of consciousness.

Personally, I think it's the Reynolds guy or somebody else camped out in the woods, who saw a propped door and went in for food, and then got more brazen and decided to see who was in the house. Or the child woke up and came into the kitchen and he took her then.

[3dogmom]

I know this goes against 90% of the posters here. But I seriously think Misty is not guilty of anything.

Please don't use this thread to convince me otherwise.

The girl is only 17, not capable of committing, then covering up a crime.

If you have seen any interviews of her, she is clearly no the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. But I do think she is another innocent child in all this mess.

[laura08]

I agree, I do not think she is guilty. She is confusing though. I think she seems like a girl that has just had alot of struggles in her life like most.

[Aries72]

Just wondering....Is Lindsay's Myspace the one that had a picture of Misty and some other girl dated 01/01/2006 that said "ha ha we were drunk" and there was a small child in the foreground looking at them?

[yolorado]

So, basically, she was soooo tired, she laid down and saw a 4 year old get up, but she was sooooo tired, he walked out of the room and she just faded into sleep....WOW
Girl was almost certainly zonked on something-drugs, alcohol...or gone, leaving the little ones alone in their big daddy's trailer, but she was merely 17, not Ron's wife and not the children's mother. Ron needs to be held to account for using this young woman for sex and childcare. He's as guilty of negligence of these children as anyone else is of anything else.

[yolorado]

I agree, I do not think she is guilty. She is confusing though. I think she seems like a girl that has just had alot of struggles in her life like most.

Agree. Don't think she's guilty of harming Haleigh either. She was drunk or drugged, or gone, but she shouldn't have been there in the first place. When are people going to start holding Ron responsible for leaving his children in the care of the just barely 17 year old who he was using for sex!?

[suzet]

I thought it was weird that she would say to the dad, "The back door is open and YOUR DAUGHTER's gone."

Did Misty tell LE that she said that or did RON tell LE that Misty said that?

[yolorado]

Misty Croslin is really starting to anger me. Why does she keep changing her story?!? This is just getting nuts. I swear, I'd rather hear "I don't know" than someone just making stuff up because they don't remember. Geesh!!! :furious:

Did NG talk about this story tonight?

She was drugged, drunk or gone, but what the heck was she doing there alone with those kids?! Huh, Ron?

[ElizaAvalon]

I know this goes against 90% of the posters here. But I seriously think Misty is not guilty of anything.

Please don't use this thread to convince me otherwise.

The girl is only 17, not capable of committing, then covering up a crime.

If you have seen any interviews of her, she is clearly no the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. But I do think she is another innocent child in all this mess.

I agree.

I've said it before. I don't think she did anything intentionally that night that lead to Haleigh's disappearance.

She's still a kid herself.

[suzet]

Hey, Misty has her own thread. Bio-mom has her own thread. Why doesn't Ron have his own thread?

Ron is the most unique character in the bunch. Doesn't he deserve his own thread?

(and of course, if one exists, I didn't see it)

[suzet]

I believe Misty knows exactly what happened to Haleigh. I believe Ron is responsible and Misty may have helped cover up the crime. She is doing as she is told because she is terrified of Ron. She keeps changing her stories because Ron decides her stories are not "working out," not "fitting into the plan," so he dreams up new scenarios.

I've said it before. Misty is the weak link. LE needs to work on her and she will spill. She is no Casey A. LE will first need to convince Misty they will take Ron into custody before he finds out she ratted him out.

[Tom'sGirl]

Hey, Misty has her own thread. Bio-mom has her own thread. Why doesn't Ron have his own thread?

Ron is the most unique character in the bunch. Doesn't he deserve his own thread?

(and of course, if one exists, I didn't see it)
You can start a Ron C. thread if you want suzet

[mydailyopinions]

It is time for Misty to come clean. Way too many stories coming out of her mouth.
Her looks, her youth, her lack of education doesn't faze me. I know that if we go back years and years we can find some cases of the sweetest most innocent looking people in this world who have committed the most horrific of crimes against another human being.

[kellync]

I don't think she did anything. I think she is a terrible witness, but I don't think she did anything to the child. I think people who are either trained in the law or in LE, or the self-trained folks who follow cases out of interest, give the average joe way too much credit. In our day-to-day lives, we have great flexibility in our spoken word. I can tell you I "never get any sun" or I "never drive at night" and in normal conversation, this is understood as me saying I don't "usually" do those things. I can also tell you I "worked all weekend" or even that I "sat at my computer all afternoon" when in reality I might mean I worked for 4-5 hours each weekend day, and that I was at my computer most of the time, except when I got up to get a drink, go to the bathroom, head to starbucks, etc., etc.

The average American speaks in generalization, hyperbole and exaggeration pretty much every day. This tendency is even stronger among less educated people, and people who have not had professional jobs, because these are people who have not been critiqued or really challenged in their spoken words, and because these verbal communication habits also go hand in hand with a fatalistic world view. So I think everything Misty has said about that evening is true, and the perceived mistakes are due to this communication issue and how she is generalizing and not really thinking out her answers before the words come out of her mouth.

Now, that said, I do think there is a chance she left that night or had a visitor someplace nearby. But for all we know, she admitted that part very early on and it was LE and the media that chose not to release it. But everything else from that night I think is the truth, but it's mangled up because she is not used to having anyone hang on her words. She probably has never really had anyone actively listen to her in her life and is probably only used to speaking words in stream of consciousness.

Personally, I think it's the Reynolds guy or somebody else camped out in the woods, who saw a propped door and went in for food, and then got more brazen and decided to see who was in the house. Or the child woke up and came into the kitchen and he took her then.

As a local, I thank you for your insight, and your post is beautifully written. I hope that Haleigh is found soon, but in the meantime, thanks for coming here and sharing.

[Law_girl41]

Theres a video that goes with the article. I see a totally different Misty. She seems rather "street" in her tone.(I'm sorry, whats with the fur collar?)
Misty did talk about being from Michigan and liking the city over the country. that the country wasnt her thing. I'm from Michigan...I live in the country, Im from the city......its mainly the suburbs of detroit or another big city, such as Kalamazoo...in any case...My whole life I have been able to blend in with whomever. What I mean is I can hang.....or I can just sit a spell. She blends in well, but she's still got the rough edge about her...I saw it in that video....imo.

(and partially that is from her past 'coping' mechanisms you learn along the way from being abused and making poor decisions, whether you made them or youre a product of your past and someone else made those choices for you)

Oh, my point...I dont care how far away from the street talk & messing around days of my youth...it's still in me when I get with my people. It wont be long and she'll be lawyering up, if she hasnt been approached already.

[black poodle]

I agree.

I've said it before. I don't think she did anything intentionally that night that lead to Haleigh's disappearance.

She's still a kid herself.

I think Misty had been around the block way before she moved in with Ron. I don't buy that at all. She may be a kid in her years but I think she is probably pretty street smart. IMO

[blubuni99]

I just want her to be HONEST. If she left that night, tell them so they can figure out what happened. If she didn't leave that night, tell the whole truth and not add stuff later - like 'yeah, I went outside to smoke.... but I used the front door.'. What the point in that little tid bit of info?!? Nobody broke in the FRONT DOOR or left the front door open.
It's been over a week. Remembering small details of that night should be over by now. AND like Nancy Grace said "The truth doesn't change!!!"

Like I said, frustrated - I know we all want them to find her - alive!

[shgrbkr]

The "tip" about her not being at home when Haleigh vanished came about 2 days ago. I'm wondering what takes so long to verify this one way or the other? Has LE re-interviewed her and what was the result of it? If they have, and she's still saying she was at home, I can see why it might take a bit longer to check it out, but I don't think she has the wherewithall to go toe to toe with LE in an extended interview.

[EtherealGirl]

I don't think Misty would intentionally hurt Haleigh. But she certainly could have let her be hurt by neglecting her in some way.

There is no telling what that 17 year old girl has been through, and she probably doesn't even realize all of the wrongs that were done to her, so I am sure she wouldn't be able to really distinguish wrong from right if she actually saw it happen to a child.

I think she is lying and I don't think it is because she did something to Haleigh. I think she is afraid of someone. I don't know who but considering those involved it could be anyone. It seems to me she is being 'prompted' to continually change her story.

I don't believe she is smart enough to continue avoiding spilling her guts to LE, they would have worn her down by now. I think the only thing stopping her from telling the truth is FEAR of someone other than the authorities. I am sure she has been around criminals enough to pick up their immunity to any fear of the law, so it has to be someone else.

Find who she is afraid of and find what happened to Haleigh.

[TrY]

what is your thought on Misty? Do you think she is involved? If so why? If not why?

I do not believe Misty's story. I do not believe Ron's story. Misty's body language and mannerisms and Ron's body language and mannerisms also remind me of Susan Smith especially the way they look down and sideways with their eyes half closed when they are discussing Haleigh. I'm very skeptical of them both.

[blubuni99]

I don't think Misty would intentionally hurt Haleigh. But she certainly could have let her be hurt by neglecting her in some way.

There is no telling what that 17 year old girl has been through, and she probably doesn't even realize all of the wrongs that were done to her, so I am sure she wouldn't be able to really distinguish wrong from right if she actually saw it happen to a child.

I think she is lying and I don't think it is because she did something to Haleigh. I think she is afraid of someone. I don't know who but considering those involved it could be anyone. It seems to me she is being 'prompted' to continually change her story.

I don't believe she is smart enough to continue avoiding spilling her guts to LE, they would have worn her down by now. I think the only thing stopping her from telling the truth is FEAR of someone other than the authorities. I am sure she has been around criminals enough to pick up their immunity to any fear of the law, so it has to be someone else.

Find who she is afraid of and find what happened to Haleigh.

bolded by me
Thats how I felt - that there is NO way she could have hurt Haleigh and hid the body so well that all those days of searching LE, TES, ect didn't yield ANY results. THATS the only reason I don't believe she did anything to Haleigh. I think they would have found a body or something by now.

I'm just frustrated bc she keeps adding stuff and maybe it is generalities AND also I was only going by what SHE herself said bc I was just going to assume that in the early stages, the media got it wrong.

[CeeKer]

I don't think she did anything. I think she is a terrible witness, but I don't think she did anything to the child. I think people who are either trained in the law or in LE, or the self-trained folks who follow cases out of interest, give the average joe way too much credit. In our day-to-day lives, we have great flexibility in our spoken word. I can tell you I "never get any sun" or I "never drive at night" and in normal conversation, this is understood as me saying I don't "usually" do those things. I can also tell you I "worked all weekend" or even that I "sat at my computer all afternoon" when in reality I might mean I worked for 4-5 hours each weekend day, and that I was at my computer most of the time, except when I got up to get a drink, go to the bathroom, head to starbucks, etc., etc.

The average American speaks in generalization, hyperbole and exaggeration pretty much every day. This tendency is even stronger among less educated people, and people who have not had professional jobs, because these are people who have not been critiqued or really challenged in their spoken words, and because these verbal communication habits also go hand in hand with a fatalistic world view. So I think everything Misty has said about that evening is true, and the perceived mistakes are due to this communication issue and how she is generalizing and not really thinking out her answers before the words come out of her mouth.

Now, that said, I do think there is a chance she left that night or had a visitor someplace nearby. But for all we know, she admitted that part very early on and it was LE and the media that chose not to release it. But everything else from that night I think is the truth, but it's mangled up because she is not used to having anyone hang on her words. She probably has never really had anyone actively listen to her in her life and is probably only used to speaking words in stream of consciousness.

Personally, I think it's the Reynolds guy or somebody else camped out in the woods, who saw a propped door and went in for food, and then got more brazen and decided to see who was in the house. Or the child woke up and came into the kitchen and he took her then.

Great post!!! I agree! I have a baaaad habit of talking fast and omitting clarifying words which could cause confusion under scrutiny. I could see myself saying the same thing two different ways. I.E. "I got up to go to the bathroom" when I really mean "I got up to go to the bathroom to get a drink of water." Or "We were all sleeping together" when I mean "We were all sleeping together in the same room although on different beds".

[sweetmop]

I don't think Misty would intentionally hurt Haleigh. But she certainly could have let her be hurt by neglecting her in some way.

There is no telling what that 17 year old girl has been through, and she probably doesn't even realize all of the wrongs that were done to her, so I am sure she wouldn't be able to really distinguish wrong from right if she actually saw it happen to a child.

I think she is lying and I don't think it is because she did something to Haleigh. I think she is afraid of someone. I don't know who but considering those involved it could be anyone. It seems to me she is being 'prompted' to continually change her story.

I don't believe she is smart enough to continue avoiding spilling her guts to LE, they would have worn her down by now. I think the only thing stopping her from telling the truth is FEAR of someone other than the authorities. I am sure she has been around criminals enough to pick up their immunity to any fear of the law, so it has to be someone else.

Find who she is afraid of and find what happened to Haleigh.
Very well said, EtherealGirl. Poor Misty has had an abusive and cruel existance for some time. We already know she was sexually molested by a cousin when she was 12 or 13. She seems to be in one abusive relationship after another. It is heartbreaking to see that she will settle for such treatment in this life.
I think she is deathly afraid of Ron Cummings, Haleigh's father. He has a very abusive nature. Did you hear the way he spoke to her during the 911 call?
These poor children! If living with Ron were the lesser of the 2 evils, what a tragic life for all of them! Misty included. Where are Misty's parents?

[KaylynnCouture]

Very well said, EtherealGirl. Poor Misty has had an abusive and cruel existance for some time. We already know she was sexually molested by a cousin when she was 12 or 13. She seems to be in one abusive relationship after another. It is heartbreaking to see that she will settle for such treatment in this life.
I think she is deathly afraid of Ron Cummings, Haleigh's father. He has a very abusive nature. Did you hear the way he spoke to her during the 911 call?
These poor children! If living with Ron were the lesser of the 2 evils, what a tragic life for all of them! Misty included. Where are Misty's parents?

I totally agree with what you said about Misty being afraid of Ron. As far as Misty's parents, I know Mistys mom was sitting next to her in the first interview she did with News4Jax (the video one). I haven't heard much about her father though, but there is a poster on here that is a local to the area and said that Mistys father kicked her out for her drug use..then she moved in with Ron. I don't have a confirmation to that, obviously. It was just what a local person on here had said (I believe the post is in the Chad Reynolds thread)

[NSC]

Originally Posted by FlaSleuth
I don't think she did anything. I think she is a terrible witness, but I don't think she did anything to the child. I think people who are either trained in the law or in LE, or the self-trained folks who follow cases out of interest, give the average joe way too much credit. In our day-to-day lives, we have great flexibility in our spoken word. I can tell you I "never get any sun" or I "never drive at night" and in normal conversation, this is understood as me saying I don't "usually" do those things. I can also tell you I "worked all weekend" or even that I "sat at my computer all afternoon" when in reality I might mean I worked for 4-5 hours each weekend day, and that I was at my computer most of the time, except when I got up to get a drink, go to the bathroom, head to starbucks, etc., etc.

The average American speaks in generalization, hyperbole and exaggeration pretty much every day. This tendency is even stronger among less educated people, and people who have not had professional jobs, because these are people who have not been critiqued or really challenged in their spoken words, and because these verbal communication habits also go hand in hand with a fatalistic world view. So I think everything Misty has said about that evening is true, and the perceived mistakes are due to this communication issue and how she is generalizing and not really thinking out her answers before the words come out of her mouth.

Now, that said, I do think there is a chance she left that night or had a visitor someplace nearby. But for all we know, she admitted that part very early on and it was LE and the media that chose not to release it. But everything else from that night I think is the truth, but it's mangled up because she is not used to having anyone hang on her words. She probably has never really had anyone actively listen to her in her life and is probably only used to speaking words in stream of consciousness.

Personally, I think it's the Reynolds guy or somebody else camped out in the woods, who saw a propped door and went in for food, and then got more brazen and decided to see who was in the house. Or the child woke up and came into the kitchen and he took her then.

I think this is an excellent post. This makes complete sense to me as well.

Just out of curiosity. What do you make of the Hailey's Great Grandmother's claim:

Haleigh's Great-Grandmother Speaks Out, Defends Croslin
Sykes said there is no way Croslin wasn’t home the night Haleigh went missing.
"That's a crock. I went by the house that night. She fed them. She bathed them. Every morning when Haleigh went out to go to school, she looked like she just stepped out of a beauty shop," Sykes said. "Y'all don't know her. Those children love her, and she loves them. I know everybody makes a big deal that she's only 17, and that's true, but she's a lot more mature than a lot of people that I've seen and that I know who are 25 and 30."

I think I believe Great Grandma, unless she has some sort of alzheimer's I am unaware of.

[not_my_kids]

Now I am confused, either she is mature enough to handle watching 2 children overnight without losing her temper or allowing something bad to happen to them or she isn't mature enough to plan, carry out and/or conceal a crime. It's one way or the other.
Either she is capable of adult thought and action, the good and the bad, or she isn't.
It just doesn't fly that she is mature to handle these kids but not mature enough to be responsible for Haleigh's death or disappearance.
One way or another, she is complicit, in my mind.

[kellync]

Now I am confused, either she is mature enough to handle watching 2 children overnight without losing her temper or allowing something bad to happen to them or she isn't mature enough to plan, carry out and/or conceal a crime. It's one way or the other.
Either she is capable of adult thought and action, the good and the bad, or she isn't.
It just doesn't fly that she is mature to handle these kids but not mature enough to be responsible for Haleigh's death or disappearance.
One way or another, she is complicit, in my mind.
I tend to think repeating "thats all I know" is pretty easy.

[kellync]

Happy Birthday Tarrin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[not_my_kids]

I tend to think repeating "thats all I know" is pretty easy.

It must be since that's that only part of the story she can stick to.

O/T Thanks for the happy birthday. I only get to hang out here until he gets home from his school and then during naps. Daddy took him to class today so I guess I got a birthday present too.

[SuziQ]

http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/02/misty-croslin-cats-out-of-the-bag.html

(snip and more at link)
The information I am referring to is a tip that investigators received from a local resident who came forward and told them that Misty Croslin, the 17-year-old girlfriend of Haleigh's father, 24-year-old Ronald Cummings, was not at home the night Haleigh disappeared. It has further been alleged that the night Haleigh was abducted was not the first time Croslin had sneaked out while Cummings was at work and his kids were sleeping. There are further allegations regarding her activities at that time; however that information has not officially been released.

[tehcloser]

Great GM says she was at the trailer at 7:00 and Haleigh was on the porch eating dinner. Then Misty says...after eating the kids watched two movies before going to bed at 8:15. (Movies are named on here somewhere...lol) Now, there is no way you can watch 2 movies in an hour and 15 minutes....so we have another discrepancy. Shocking I know.

ETA...Right as I hit post...HLN has the case on and the reporter said Misty told him she put them to bed at 8:30. So we have 8:00, 8:15 and 8:30...wonder if we will get a 9:00????????

[kellync]

Great GM says she was at the trailer at 7:00 and Haleigh was on the porch eating dinner. Then Misty says...after eating the kids watched two movies before going to bed at 8:15. (Movies are named on here somewhere...lol) Now, there is no way you can watch 2 movies in an hour and 15 minutes....so we have another discrepancy. Shocking I know.
And in the interview at her Mothers home, Misty said she put Haleigh to bed at 8, "but, ya know it was a school night, and she wasnt tired".....
BLAH BLAH BLAH

[not_my_kids]

Great GM says she was at the trailer at 7:00 and Haleigh was on the porch eating dinner. Then Misty says...after eating the kids watched two movies before going to bed at 8:15. (Movies are named on here somewhere...lol) Now, there is no way you can watch 2 movies in an hour and 15 minutes....so we have another discrepancy. Shocking I know.


Do you know where the names of them are? My kids have vidoes that only run 15-20 minutes per video.
Disney movies, no not that short, but there are some, made specifically for younger kids with short attention spans. I wouldn't call this a discrepancy just yet.

[ksgirl78]

Do you know where the names of them are? My kids have vidoes that only run 15-20 minutes per video.
Disney movies, no not that short, but there are some, made specifically for younger kids with short attention spans. I wouldn't call this a discrepancy just yet.


I believe the movies were Madagascar and AirBud! Going off of memory here, so...

[tehcloser]

Do you know where the names of them are? My kids have vidoes that only run 15-20 minutes per video.
Disney movies, no not that short, but there are some, made specifically for younger kids with short attention spans. I wouldn't call this a discrepancy just yet.

I saw Madagascar was one...so yeah, if it was...that is a discrepancy. That why I said the movie names were on here somewhere....they were not short movies. Let me find linkage..................

ETA linkage http://staugustine.com/stories/021909/state_021909_028.shtml

Two movies....Madagascar and Air Bud....longer then an hour and 15 minutes. Discrepancy....lol

[kellync]

Air Bud is 93 minutes
Madagascar is 86 minutes
Assuming they watched the originals, and not sequels..

[not_my_kids]

Okay, yeah, with the length of the movies, discrepancy. lol.
Unless they are like my kids, watch a quarter of a movie, switch to a different one. But we'll probably never know, since this story will prolly change too.

Okay, time for birthday festivities. Hopefully when I come on at naptime all of this will be null and void and we will have a live Haleigh. I hope, I hope, I hope.

[tehcloser]

Okay, yeah, with the length of the movies, discrepancy. lol.
Unless they are like my kids, watch a quarter of a movie, switch to a different one. But we'll probably never know, since this story will prolly change too.

Okay, time for birthday festivities. Hopefully when I come on at naptime all of this will be null and void and we will have a live Haleigh. I hope, I hope, I hope.

Enjoy and tell Tarrin Happy BD from us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SuziQ]

Marie shares the same sentiment we do. ;)

Thanks to Angel for posting this in todays news.

Search For Haleigh : Grandmother Discouraged
Created: 2/18/2009 11:49:20 PM
Updated: 2/19/2009 12:30:49 AM

<snipped>
SATSUMA, FL -- As day nine of the search for Haleigh Cummings comes to a close, candles still burn, tips continue to come in, and family members say they are left with even more questions.
"Nobody can make up their mind on what she was wearing, who was at home with her, where anybody was that night. It's unbelievable!" says Marie Griffis, Haleigh's maternal grandmother. Griffis says it's hard to know what to believe. She just wants the truth. "There are just so many lies going around," says Griffis.

Investigators aren't saying much when answering questions about possible leads, including talk about examining a particular vehicle as evidence. "It was processed for evidence, but we're not going to get into that, but it was processed by FDLE," says Detective Dominick Pape with FDLE.

Grandmother Discouraged: Video
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/...storyid=131718 (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?aid=149697&storyid=131718)

Article:
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/l...131718&catid=3 (http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=131718&catid=3)

[tehcloser]

Can you imagine how frustrating it is for Marie?

[LancelotLink]

I have a problem with the pink shirt. She originally said Haleigh was sleeping in her pink Hanna Montana shirt. But in this interview,
http://staugustine.com/stories/021909/state_021909_028.shtml

However, Croslin said she found the shirt on Monday, when she was allowed back inside the doublewide mobile home for the first time since the disappearance. She was there to discuss the layout of the mobile home with investigators and was looking for the clothes Haleigh wore her last day at school.

She then saw the Hannah Montana shirt in a laundry pile by the back door.

"When I put her blanket on she had that shirt on," Croslin told the Times-Union on Wednesday.

Now, she also stated she had been doing laundry the night Haleigh "disappeared," placing her at the back door, at the washer and dryer, where the laundry pile is and where the pink shirt has been all along.


Every time this girl speaks, I get a headache.
I'm sure this has already been discussed. I've been elsewhere...LOL

[kellync]

I have a problem with the pink shirt. She originally said Haleigh was sleeping in her pink Hanna Montana shirt. But in this interview,
http://staugustine.com/stories/021909/state_021909_028.shtml

However, Croslin said she found the shirt on Monday, when she was allowed back inside the doublewide mobile home for the first time since the disappearance. She was there to discuss the layout of the mobile home with investigators and was looking for the clothes Haleigh wore her last day at school.

She then saw the Hannah Montana shirt in a laundry pile by the back door.

"When I put her blanket on she had that shirt on," Croslin told the Times-Union on Wednesday.

Now, she also stated she had been doing laundry the night Haleigh "disappeared," placing her at the back door, at the washer and dryer, where the laundry pile is and where the pink shirt has been all along.


Every time this girl speaks, I get a headache.
I'm sure this has already been discussed. I've been elsewhere...LOL
Weird, isn't it? I wonder what Grandma saw her wearing when she rode by and they were on the front porch eating dinner?

[kellync]

Call me crazy, but I dont see how you could be on the front porch eating dinner at 7, and have had a bath and watched 2 movies and be in bed at 8.

[tehcloser]

Call me crazy, but I dont see how you could be on the front porch eating dinner at 7, and have had a bath and watched 2 movies and be in bed at 8.

You can't.

[AuburnJenn]

You can't.

This is a main thing that bugs me about Misti. She tells way too many details about things that would not normally need to be so detailed. Why would she tell the names of the movies? I would think you'd just say, "the kids watched a couple of movies" without going into detail the titles.

[kellync]

Also, have you ever tried to wrangle a child for a bath? Two of them? They like to play once they're in there, and even if they bathed together, it can be time consuming. And LE knows if they did or not. Unless Misty did laundry ALL NIGHT, there are damp towels somewhere. If there was no bath, I assume they either changed into pj's, or slept in the clothes they had on when Grandma drove by. If there was a bath, Misty knows what Haleigh had on.

[ksgirl78]

This is a main thing that bugs me about Misti. She tells way too many details about things that would not normally need to be so detailed. Why would she tell the names of the movies? I would think you'd just say, "the kids watched a couple of movies" without going into detail the titles.

Bolded by me.

Interestingly, Misty only "tells way too many details" when it doesn't pertain to anything that matters!!! Blankets...pink t-shirts...times...ok, so yeah, these things matter...but when rambling about the blankets...it didn't matter or go along with the question asked...the pink tee, story just doesn't add up to me...times...they definitely matter, but she cannot seem to find or figure out the right time anything happened that evening!!!

I just wish someone in the media would interview her and start from the beginning (the night Haleigh went missing) until now with all of the story changes so it would be in one place. I, for one, would want the chance to clarify something I had said if in fact it wasn't that way...so as not to look GUILTY!

[scrabble]

Poor little girl, I pray that she will be found safe.

[Sc00ter]

As you can tell I am new to this and this is my first post.

I wanted to give my two cents and throw this idea out there...since the backdoor was propped open has anyone thought about the possibility that Misty propped it open so she could smoke??? If she was under the influence of anything maybe she forgot to close the backdoor???
:rolleyes:


I truly am sorry for what friends and family are going thru at this time. I cannot begin to even imagine how they must feel. I just hope that soon the TRUTH is found out and I hope that Haleigh comes home safely.

[ksgirl78]

As you can tell I am new to this and this is my first post.

I wanted to give my two cents and throw this idea out there...since the backdoor was propped open has anyone thought about the possibility that Misty propped it open so she could smoke??? If she was under the influence of anything maybe she forgot to close the backdoor???
:rolleyes:


I truly am sorry for what friends and family are going thru at this time. I cannot begin to even imagine how they must feel. I just hope that soon the TRUTH is found out and I hope that Haleigh comes home safely.

Welcome to WS, Scooter!!!!

I suppose it is a possibility but I personally don't see this as too likely! I believe Misty did have a hand in either opening the door or knowing who opened the door and when the door was opened!

[sweetmop]

I totally agree with what you said about Misty being afraid of Ron. As far as Misty's parents, I know Mistys mom was sitting next to her in the first interview she did with News4Jax (the video one). I haven't heard much about her father though, but there is a poster on here that is a local to the area and said that Mistys father kicked her out for her drug use..then she moved in with Ron. I don't have a confirmation to that, obviously. It was just what a local person on here had said (I believe the post is in the Chad Reynolds thread)
Thank you for that info, KaylynnCouture.:) {I love your name BTW}
No offense here, but that was her mother? Wow! It looks like perhaps there's drug use there also.
All of these poor women have most certainly had rough lives and extreme trauma!They all look unhealthy, and old beyond their years. This case is just sad all the way around, isn't it?

[kellync]

Thank you for that info, KaylynnCouture.:) {I love your name BTW}
No offense here, but that was her mother? Wow! It looks like perhaps there's drug use there also.
All of these poor women have most certainly had rough lives and extreme trauma!They all look unhealthy, and old beyond their years. This case is just sad all the way around, isn't it?
I'm glad you said that. I have been thinking it also.

[kellync]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18750828/index.html
This video was posted today, shows tents, and says Misty was driven away by detectives 30 seconds ago!!!

[kellync]

This press conference will be from Haleighs family, the sheriff will have one at 3!!

[shadow2112]

where was ron? already at the station? getting very curious IMO.

[Sc00ter]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18750828/index.html
This video was posted today, shows tents, and says Misty was driven away by detectives 30 seconds ago!!!

Thanks for the link! Great info! Makes you wonder.....:confused:

let's hope Haleigh comes home safely!!

[raeann]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18750828/index.html
This video was posted today, shows tents, and says Misty was driven away by detectives 30 seconds ago!!!


Off topic...

WOW a tent with heat, cable and a huge flat screen tv....now that is my kind of camping!

[Becky319]

If Misty had been using drugs and hasn't been able to during this time (9 days) would she be freaking out by now?

[raeann]

She could be easily using them still, inside the closed tent at night, inside her brother's home, at her parents home....all she needs is a purse or whatever to keep them in and a few minutes of privacy to take them.

[suzet]

She could be easily using them still, inside the closed tent at night, inside her brother's home, at her parents home....all she needs is a purse or whatever to keep them in and a few minutes of privacy to take them.

You are right. And she was flying higher than a kite during Greta's interview, imo.

Oh, it might get a wee more difficult to use drugs, once she is in jail as an accessory. But then again, I've never been in jail and I don't use drugs, so not sure how easy it is to get them once inside the big house.

[scrabble]

Something about Misty, etc., seems very suspicious.

[kellync]

It appears as though Ron is camped across the street from Mistys parents home, she came out of that house the reporter said, and her Dad was in the driveway in a wheelchair. Maybe they wanted to get her out of there so she wouldnt be bombarded with questions LE doesn't want answered on camera. IDK

[winterrose]

Okay,I just got home and I hear Misty has been taken in the back of a LE car.Ronald was put in the front of a LE car yesterday,usually you're in the back if you're in trouble.

[PinkyPoo]

Okay,I just got home and I hear Misty has been taken in the back of a LE car.Ronald was put in the front of a LE car yesterday,usually you're in the back if you're in trouble.

We can only hope theres a breck in this case. Some clown on Topix is reporting an arrest has been made. There is nothing to confirm it. It's likly not true. I would think if something happens the local news will be the first to report it.

[winterrose]

Actually I think they got that from the video where the reporter showed the tents the family is living in and they said Misty had been taken in the back of a LE car.That was before the 1pm conference.So,I'm assuming since it was in back,which is not good,they think it's an arrest.

[catch_22]

i know misty was the last person to see haleigh and all, but LE seems to be questioning her quite a bit......

if she didn't know much, and told them all she knew, then you would think that LE would be pursuing other leads.

[Indigo]

Just heard on HLN: Misty may have been given a second polygraph test.

[ksgirl78]

Just heard on HLN: Misty may have been given another lie detector test.

Yeah, I heard that too! They also said that it was her second one...I thought she had already taken two?

[tehcloser]

Yeah, I heard that too! They also said that it was her second one...I thought she had already taken two?

I caught that too...if she is having antoher one today...that's three.:eek:

[ksgirl78]

I just do not believe that if Misty has really had to take 3 polygraph's that she is not involved in some way!

[raeann]

I just do not believe that if Misty has really had to take 3 polygraph's that she is not involved in some way!

I think it is possible they did another one....they only work on the questions that the examiner actually asks....if they didn't ask "Where you in the house?" the first time because they were not thinking along those lines, then they sure need to be asking her now!

[AuburnJenn]

Yeah, I heard that too! They also said that it was her second one...I thought she had already taken two?

Hmm...she told several outlets that she had already "passed" two. If she passed (and GVS said that term is rarely used by LE) then why another?

[Indiana at Heart]

Just heard on HLN: Misty may have been given a second polygraph test.

yeah i heard that too and thought :eek: another one does that mean she failed the first time

[tehcloser]

yeah i heard that too and thought :eek: another one does that mean she failed the first time

This is the 3rd time....:)

[shadow2112]

I have a question..If LE wanted to clear the SO rumors, if what Misty is saying is true as everyone around there is claiming, why doesn't LE clear the rumors about her instead of letting all the speculation about her to continue.

[tehcloser]

I have a question..If LE wanted to clear the SO rumors, if what Misty is saying is true as everyone around there is claiming, why doesn't LE clear the rumors about her instead of letting all the speculation about her to continue.


Excellent point!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Garnan]

I don't think she did anything. I think she is a terrible witness, but I don't think she did anything to the child. I think people who are either trained in the law or in LE, or the self-trained folks who follow cases out of interest, give the average joe way too much credit. In our day-to-day lives, we have great flexibility in our spoken word. I can tell you I "never get any sun" or I "never drive at night" and in normal conversation, this is understood as me saying I don't "usually" do those things. I can also tell you I "worked all weekend" or even that I "sat at my computer all afternoon" when in reality I might mean I worked for 4-5 hours each weekend day, and that I was at my computer most of the time, except when I got up to get a drink, go to the bathroom, head to starbucks, etc., etc.

The average American speaks in generalization, hyperbole and exaggeration pretty much every day. This tendency is even stronger among less educated people, and people who have not had professional jobs, because these are people who have not been critiqued or really challenged in their spoken words, and because these verbal communication habits also go hand in hand with a fatalistic world view. So I think everything Misty has said about that evening is true, and the perceived mistakes are due to this communication issue and how she is generalizing and not really thinking out her answers before the words come out of her mouth.

Now, that said, I do think there is a chance she left that night or had a visitor someplace nearby. But for all we know, she admitted that part very early on and it was LE and the media that chose not to release it. But everything else from that night I think is the truth, but it's mangled up because she is not used to having anyone hang on her words. She probably has never really had anyone actively listen to her in her life and is probably only used to speaking words in stream of consciousness.

Personally, I think it's the Reynolds guy or somebody else camped out in the woods, who saw a propped door and went in for food, and then got more brazen and decided to see who was in the house. Or the child woke up and came into the kitchen and he took her then.

That was an excellent post. Good job. There is still something about Misti that I don't like though. Unlike some other cases (like the 2 little girls shot in Oklahoma) I think we will have resolution with this case, and eventually we will know the story.

[Garnan]

I can tell LE right now how to break Misti. Allow her to believe that no matter what role she played in the disappearance, she could get the reward money. This girl doesn't love Ron, but she wants to be independant. $16,000 would seem like winning Powerball to her.

[lolype29]

I can tell LE right now how to break Misti. Allow her to believe that no matter what role she played in the disappearance, she could get the reward money. This girl doesn't love Ron, but she wants to be independant. $16,000 would seem like winning Powerball to her.

They have to be careful what strategies they use though... some loop holes in the Justice system could get her off with entrapment etc.
Generally, with "kids" her age all it takes is for them to stumble once or twice, and LE to catch them on it, and present it back to them..
Also, she hasn't (from what we know) been interrogated, someone directly puting the blame on her... "What did you do with haileigh after you took her from her bed and out of the house" kind of questions...

IMO I don't think she was involved

[tehcloser]

They have to be careful what strategies they use though... some loop holes in the Justice system could get her off with entrapment etc.
Generally, with "kids" her age all it takes is for them to stumble once or twice, and LE to catch them on it, and present it back to them..
Also, she hasn't (from what we know) been interrogated, someone directly puting the blame on her... "What did you do with haileigh after you took her from her bed and out of the house" kind of questions...

IMO I don't think she was involved

When LE has given someone 3 polys...and lord knows how many interviews...they are suspicious. IMO

[Egoslayer]

She's 17, it's illegal.

[liljim]

you may have just cracked this case my friend, threaten her with charges of underage smoking and she just might spill the beans!

:P

[JaneInOz]

Illegal ?
Illegal over there to actually smoke ? there is a actual law for it ? what do you get charged with a crime for it ?

Here it is illegal to sell to minors. Under 18

[Carla Lashelle]

Its illegal to sell it to minors but I don't think law really can do much to a smoking minor besides take the cigarettes away. Didn't any of you guys smoke in high school???? How many kids were busted? None.

[Egoslayer]

Illegal ?
Illegal over there to actually smoke ? there is a actual law for it ? what do you get charged with a crime for it ?

Here it is illegal to sell to minors. Under 18

http://no-smoking.org/july98/07-20-98-6.html

I know it is illegal here (California) and looking at this article, I think they can take underage smokers to court in florida as well.

If you get caught smoking 3 times, you are denied a driver's license.

[JenBMomto3]

Here they can get a Tobacco Violation much like an Alcohol citation.

[tehcloser]

Yeppers, this will help find Haleigh. I bet she traded her for smokes. I'm sorry, I don't mean to make fun...but of all the things we need to know....this is not one of em'...jmo

[Egoslayer]

Its illegal to sell it to minors but I don't think law really can do much to a smoking minor besides take the cigarettes away. Didn't any of you guys smoke in high school???? How many kids were busted? None.

At the local high school here lots of kids have been taken in. This is a new thing the cops are doing.

[EmMomma]

Well, she already has to wait to get her DL until she's 21 because she didn't graduate.
It ALWAYS bugs me to see such a young person smoking. I started when I was 17 and I always say that's the only regret I have in my life.

[not_my_kids]

I smoked underage in front of so many cops and was never hit for it. At this point, they need her cooperation and if they start busting her for little things, they will lose it.
If you look at the way the grandmother and mother seem to have been told to act like they believe Misty and the fact that LE raises no objection to her smoking, I can guarantee that the FBI was called in in the capacity of analyzing the science of Misty's behavior. WHat is going on right now is the result of the advice the Fibbies are giving to the local LE and the family. Misty os prime suspect, just has not been publicly named as such. I know enough about behavioral scientists and what they do to know it when I see it.

[my_tee_mouse]

Well, she already has to wait to get her DL until she's 21 because she didn't graduate.
It ALWAYS bugs me to see such a young person smoking. I started when I was 17 and I always say that's the only regret I have in my life.


It's a major regret of mine as well, and I've paid in terms of health.

However, some folks (and no, not aimed at anyone in particular) seem to have the attitude that since these people smoke, they must be awful people. I know plenty of good and decent people who still smoke. Smoking cigarettes does not make a person a criminal...an underaged smoker in Florida...maybe...but the act of smoking does not make someone bad or less of a person than the next one.

[passionflower]

IMO, Misti smokes like a kid trying to me an adult.
She probably has smoked for years.
Didn't we all? Well Im allot older than most here
it was legal to even buy them for my dad at the corner store.

[JaneInOz]

Well, she already has to wait to get her DL until she's 21 because she didn't graduate.
It ALWAYS bugs me to see such a young person smoking. I started when I was 17 and I always say that's the only regret I have in my life.


DO you still smoke ?

I gave it up 2 years ago ! and never have touched it since.

Cold Turkey

ITs become such a *leperish* thing to do these days....

[Egoslayer]

It's a major regret of mine as well, and I've paid in terms of health.

However, some folks (and no, not aimed at anyone in particular) seem to have the attitude that since these people smoke, they must be awful people. I know plenty of good and decent people who still smoke. Smoking cigarettes does not make a person a criminal...an underaged smoker in Florida...maybe...but the act of smoking does not make someone bad or less of a person than the next one.

It just annoys me that they show this on TV. I don't care who smokes and who doesn't .. I just believe in rule of law.

[EmMomma]

DO you still smoke ?

I gave it up 2 years ago ! and never have touched it since.

Cold Turkey

ITs become such a *leperish* thing to do these days....

Yep, guilty.
I quit both times I was pregnant and nursing, then picked them back up again. *sigh*
It's such a nasty habit...

[nursebeeme]

She is smoking because she smokes (most likely lives with a smoker as well...most likely has parents and significant others who smoke).

I do not see this as an issue other than a crusade to save her lung tissue in another time and place after Haleigh is found.

(aside: nurse has smoked in the past and is not down on smokers. what is important in life IN ALL THINGS is to DO THEM IN MODERATION... although at this time I bet Ron and Misty are like the Attchison~Topeka~and the Santa Fe~ rail line)

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't understand why this question has a thread? I think we have a place for questions and answers. It doesn't pertain to Haleigh being missing or even to the case in any way.

[nursebeeme]

It just annoys me that they show this on TV. I don't care who smokes and who doesn't .. I just believe in rule of law. we are dealing with a different part of america here. They are so tired they were milling around doing what they always do. Whether it is right or wrong or anyone else agrees with it in principle...does it really have anything to do with Haleigh being missing? No flames from nurse... just wondering. I just do not see LE busting Misty right now because she is smoking when she is the hinge upon which this case rests. again imhoo and no offense intended to all my ws friends :blowkiss:

[nursebeeme]

I don't understand why this question has a thread? I think we have a place for questions and answers. It doesn't pertain to Haleigh being missing or even to the case in any way.
nurse raises hand (with you on that thought SS!!!):clap:

[panthera]

I don't understand why this question has a thread? I think we have a place for questions and answers. It doesn't pertain to Haleigh being missing or even to the case in any way.
The only relevance I can see is if she left the house that night to get more cigarettes, or was outside the back door smoking and left the door unlocked. :) MOO

[christine2448]

IMO, Misti smokes like a kid trying to me an adult.
She probably has smoked for years.
Didn't we all? Well Im allot older than most here
it was legal to even buy them for my dad at the corner store.


Who cares??!! Where is this child?? Not directed at anyone inparticular (ok, except the thread starter ;) )

OT...born n raised in Philly/NJ..was always 'property' of the Steelers.. ^5 PF!

[jaimie43]

I didnt bother to read past the first couple threads because I cant believe there was a whole stinkin thread started for it...

[Aries72]

I think she's been smoking for a few years but who cares...a child is missing? I'm sure that's the last thing on the cops minds too.

As far as it being illegal here in Florida, I don't think cops go looking for kids that are smoking...they mainly bust the people selling cigs to minors.

[djk]

she might be in WD's right now for any number of substances. it's probably all she has got. From what I've witnessed in behavior of other users I can see the gf have a slight painkiller, xannax, pot fondness. Losing them all at the same time can be very uncomfortable and disorienting. I sometimes get the feeling I'm watching her detox in real time.

[LeLe1953]

http://no-smoking.org/july98/07-20-98-6.html

I know it is illegal here (California) and looking at this article, I think they can take underage smokers to court in florida as well.

If you get caught smoking 3 times, you are denied a driver's license.

:confused: Are you kidding me?????????? NO driver's license if you are caught smoking 3 times. A little stupid use of the police in my book. Ah, shouldn't they be working more to enforce the law to prevent gang banging since there are so many youth sucked into that life style. Honestly, I worried way more about drugs, drinking or skipping school when my daughter was a teen. I realize smoking can kill ya but so can doing drugs, street racing, gang banging and a whole host of other stupid things.
In the case of Misty, she is 17 living with an older man, no education, not much common sense it seems, no goals it would appear, having sex and has been having sex for awhile.............smoking is the LAST thing I would worry about.

[ElizaAvalon]

Honestly, I can't imagine anywhere in the country where underage smoking is actually policed!

[LeLe1953]

At the local high school here lots of kids have been taken in. This is a new thing the cops are doing.

Again, that's just stupid. Are those kids making good grades? Are they college bound? Do they have part time jobs? Are they productive members of society? Yeah, let's bust their balls cause they lite up a cig. Sorry, but I come the day we smoked pot in the car in our parking lot at school and everyone smoked out in the school yard on break, including teachers. We had cig vending machines in the school. I turned out okay...even got my "edumacation".
Do I think smoking is good for you? NO, but I don't think smokers should be treated as 2nd class citzens either. And I sure dont think kids need to be hauled into the police station for it. Geez, just call the parent.

I know we shouldnt smoke around kids but if those kids were clean, fed, loved, I dont care if Misty smoked. I will take someone who smokes but takes care of the kids vs someone who doesnt & knocks the crap out of them .

[Never4GetCaylee]

I don't understand why this question has a thread? I think we have a place for questions and answers. It doesn't pertain to Haleigh being missing or even to the case in any way.

I agree. After Haleigh is found then maybe LE can get around to citing her for smoking and maybe for littering if she didn't put them all out in an ashtray. :rolleyes: But right now with a little girl's life at stake for some reason I just don't think this is a top priority and not at all revelant.

[ElizaAvalon]

http://no-smoking.org/july98/07-20-98-6.html

I know it is illegal here (California) and looking at this article, I think they can take underage smokers to court in florida as well.

If you get caught smoking 3 times, you are denied a driver's license.

You are kidding??!!

Never heard of such a thing!

Do they really enforce this???

Somehow I doubt it.

[NSC]

I was just looking at Crystals Myspace page with all the pics. Sometimes for me it is hard to imagine certain behavior from people. Anyway, there is a picture of her and her friends partying, the room was filled in EXCESS of marijuana posters etc etc etc...

Now, just saying if she was with RC my guess is that the pot thing existed in that relationship as well. Now, don't see RC changing but having another GF that also smokes post. So what if MC was stoned and just out of it??? Thinking the kids went to bed for the night - she smokes a bowl and thinks she can relax. Falls asleep without leaving the house and wakes up later and is confused - Ron comes home. Now the pot thing is more in my mind than her actually leaving the house. Because great grandma said she was a good caretaker.

I am the 1st person to stand up and dislike drugs. Was never a druggie personally--maybe a 6 mos stink in high school trying out the pot but it made me so tired and pass out that I didn't like it. But I knew plenty of druggies, plenty of parents who did drugs (in an affluent area*gasp) and alot of these people were good people, they just liked pot. I don't want anyone to take any personal offense. JMO :)

Also, one other picture shows Hayleigh on the slip and slide running. Her body structure resembles that of my niece who has turners syndrome. My niece walks with a limp and is broad chested.

[petresq_algc]

You are kidding??!!

Never heard of such a thing!

Do they really enforce this???

Somehow I doubt it.

I don't understand why this smoking thing keeps getting brought up :confused::confused:Why is this an issue when there is a missing 5 yr. old girl out there somewhere? How will blasting people for smoking help us find Haleigh?! IMO unless Misty stepped out to smoke and forgot to lock the door back, cigarettes have absolutely nothing to do with this case.

[Tom'sGirl]

I don't understand why this question has a thread?
It doesn't anymore :)

[petresq_algc]

It doesn't anymore :)
:clap:

[kaych]

A 5 year old is missing and possibly being abused right this minute.

Who really gives a crap about someone underage smoking?

[Egoslayer]

I believe haleigh does have Turner's syndrome

[melley]

I live in California, next to a high school. Kids smoke right in front of my house... I've never seen the police out there, so as far as I can tell, no they don't enforce it. When I was home on maternity leave I would have to ask them to move down the street because I didn't like the smell, but that's all :)

I, too, agree who cares if she's smoking. I'd be more concerned about her shacking up with an older man, but even that seems unimportant when a little girl is missing...

[kellync]

Hello everyone I actually got out of the house tonight and went to dinner. Now that I'm home, and have found a smoking thread. GMAB!! I, as a serious chain smoker can put my 2 cents in and say that I saw on the news tonight CNN, Misty is sure puffing with authority now...hahahahahah, for real, when she left the police station, she was tokin like she was large and in charge. I can give insight on her puffing habits because I am a smoker. She walked out of the station and she was sucking that thing like a newborn baby. Maybe she is in the clear now...puff.....puff....

[LFlorida]

It IS indeed unlawful for minors to smoke cigarettes here, but both the local police chief [Palatka] and the sheriff [Putnam County] responded to the law passed by saying that they had no intention of trying to enforce it. Their officers have enough work to begin with.
btw - it is also a violation of law, technically prosecutable, for your child to be truant or to ride a bicycle without a helmet

It is much like the seatbelt laws, IMO - a basis/excuse to pull you over in your car, turn you in to DCF for child neglect, etc.

Nancy Grace made much about Haleigh's truancy [remarked upon by Ronald to Crystal, re: why she couldn't see the child at some particular time.]

Truancy letters from the schools went out over the past few weeks. A friend of mine, whose son attends the same school as Haleigh, told me about receiving one re: her son's tardiness, threatening her with arrest and prosecution. Mind you, her son was only tardy by a few minutes, [announcements and pledge of allegiance had not finished], though it was more than a few times due to her work schedule. While not an admirable habit and a bit insulting to the teacher [I guess], threatening the parent - usually the mom btw, with prosecution is a bit much.

Yes, I received one, too, for my youngest son's undocumented absences. [Did not turn in Mom's written excuses and doctor's excuse, cried 1st week of school not wanting to be away from Mom who has no backbone, etc.] Both my son and my friend's son have straight A's, so what's the big deal.

So, truancy is not an indication of anything in Putnam County except the county's desire to maximize their federal and state funding.

My best guess at this point: Misty & Chad Reynolds [missing predator] hooked up while she and Ron were estranged, reportedly over her drug use. Misty had only recently been allowed to moved back in with Ron & kids. [This is from local source.]

Perhaps Chad Reynolds "groomed" her to get access to Haleigh - not unheard of. I have a relative whose mother was groomed [via reduced rent, etc] by the man who then began molesting her 10 yr old son. He didn't kidnap or murder the kid... he pimped him out to other molesters all over SE Georgia and North Fla, sold/traded photos & video of him over the 'net.

Kid is 18 now and completely F---ed up.

Crystal is not smart enough to murder anyone and succesfully cover it up, IMO. Nor is any other 17 yr old that I know.

Y'all send me a msg if I have posted too much/too often. Don't want to be an annoyance.

[LFlorida]

This is a main thing that bugs me about Misti. She tells way too many details about things that would not normally need to be so detailed. Why would she tell the names of the movies? I would think you'd just say, "the kids watched a couple of movies" without going into detail the titles.

Perhaps Misti is repeating the info the cops wanted from her when they questioned her, likely trying to get her to contradict her story. You know that they have drilled her about every little thing that happened that night and pinned her down for every little detail.

[kellync]

I'll tell you Kelly,I do hope she doesn't start to think she's cool,all the attention towards her,as KC thought.When the fear goes away,what's left?Wow,I'm getting all this attention,everyone knows me.Her environment before she got back to Florida was what you see in her cousin Brandon's myspace site,gangs,drugs,stealing,rap mentality,look at his page.She lived in Michigan around this,hope she wasn't swayed into something by the cousin.And he told her it would be okay,everyone will believe your story?IMO
She is playing right into their hands. LE is used to this type of person. Sheriff used to be a narcotics officer in this county, he doesnt believe ANYONE.

[kellync]

It IS indeed unlawful for minors to smoke cigarettes here, but both the local police chief [Palatka] and the sheriff [Putnam County] responded to the law passed by saying that they had no intention of trying to enforce it. Their officers have enough work to begin with.
btw - it is also a violation of law, technically prosecutable, for your child to be truant or to ride a bicycle without a helmet

It is much like the seatbelt laws, IMO - a basis/excuse to pull you over in your car, turn you in to DCF for child neglect, etc.

Nancy Grace made much about Haleigh's truancy [remarked upon by Ronald to Crystal, re: why she couldn't see the child at some particular time.]

Truancy letters from the schools went out over the past few weeks. A friend of mine, whose son attends the same school as Haleigh, told me about receiving one re: her son's tardiness, threatening her with arrest and prosecution. Mind you, her son was only tardy by a few minutes, [announcements and pledge of allegiance had not finished], though it was more than a few times due to her work schedule. While not an admirable habit and a bit insulting to the teacher [I guess], threatening the parent - usually the mom btw, with prosecution is a bit much.

Yes, I received one, too, for my youngest son's undocumented absences. [Did not turn in Mom's written excuses and doctor's excuse, cried 1st week of school not wanting to be away from Mom who has no backbone, etc.] Both my son and my friend's son have straight A's, so what's the big deal.

So, truancy is not an indication of anything in Putnam County except the county's desire to maximize their federal and state funding.

My best guess at this point: Misty & Chad Reynolds [missing predator] hooked up while she and Ron were estranged, reportedly over her drug use. Misty had only recently been allowed to moved back in with Ron & kids. [This is from local source.]

Perhaps Chad Reynolds "groomed" her to get access to Haleigh - not unheard of. I have a relative whose mother was groomed [via reduced rent, etc] by the man who then began molesting her 10 yr old son. He didn't kidnap or murder the kid... he pimped him out to other molesters all over SE Georgia and North Fla, sold/traded photos & video of him over the 'net.

Kid is 18 now and completely F---ed up.

Crystal is not smart enough to murder anyone and succesfully cover it up, IMO. Nor is any other 17 yr old that I know.

Y'all send me a msg if I have posted too much/too often. Don't want to be an annoyance.
If you are an annoyance, I am an STD...Thanks for your perspective.

[melley]

I used to smoke years ago... and I know when you have been somewhere for hours (airplane, classes for instance, and probably in a police station) first thing you do when you are able to get outside is smoke... just saying.

[kellync]

I used to smoke years ago... and I know when you have been somewhere for hours (airplane, classes for instance, and probably in a police station) first thing you do when you are able to get outside is smoke... just saying.
I agree, but I didnt make my thought/opinion very clear....She had her head UP, and walked out like she was saying Ha! smell me people, I'm clean. I haven't seen Mistys head up ever. I think it was on the same station as the press conference..She looked pretty confident to me. Remember the sheriff saying she would walk out of the station today?
Where is my fiddle...oh there it is:boohoo:. They are playing her like one

[lolype29]

OR she's jonesin' for some drugs/booze which she probably hasn't had alot of in 10 days and all she has now is the cigs.

I am lost, can someone provide a link or something that says without a doubt she is an alcoholic or does drugs please?

[suzet]

I agree, but I didnt make my thought/opinion very clear....She had her head UP, and walked out like she was saying Ha! smell me people, I'm clean. I haven't seen Mistys head up ever. I think it was on the same station as the press conference..She looked pretty confident to me. Remember the sheriff saying she would walk out of the station today?
Where is my fiddle...oh there it is:boohoo:. They are playing her like one

Yes, I agree. She looked different today. Ron wasn't with her. Maybe that was part of it.

What I saw was, I think another poster mentioned it, a Casey wannabee. I think the new "celebrity status" is starting to affect Misty. She strutted out of that station doing a somewhat toned down version of the Casey~sashay.

Hmmmm... maybe Misty won't be as easy to crack as I originally thought.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yes, I agree. She looked different today. Ron wasn't with her. Maybe that was part of it.

What I saw was, I think another poster mentioned it, a Casey wannabee. I think the new "celebrity status" is starting to affect Misty. She strutted out of that station doing a somewhat toned down version of the Casey~sashay.

Hmmmm... maybe Misty won't be as easy to crack as I originally thought.Well...I am so glad I am not the only one who was struck with that impression!! The sashay was definitely there.

[azwriter]

Yes, I agree. She looked different today. Ron wasn't with her. Maybe that was part of it.

What I saw was, I think another poster mentioned it, a Casey wannabee. I think the new "celebrity status" is starting to affect Misty. She strutted out of that station doing a somewhat toned down version of the Casey~sashay.

Hmmmm... maybe Misty won't be as easy to crack as I originally thought.

You know, I too noticed something different with Misty when I saw that clip. In fact at first I didn't recognize her. The walk, the posture, the way her hands were positioned...something seemed unlike her as we have seen her.
When I see her with Ron, her face has the look of fear.
I hate to judge her from the few times I've seen her on television clips, but I think this little gal is hiding something.
Like when you watch a tv program or mystery, you can always tell the bad guy right away. Or, maybe my imagination is working overtime today.
jmo

[Issi]

I don't think she did anything. I think she is a terrible witness, but I don't think she did anything to the child. I think people who are either trained in the law or in LE, or the self-trained folks who follow cases out of interest, give the average joe way too much credit. In our day-to-day lives, we have great flexibility in our spoken word. I can tell you I "never get any sun" or I "never drive at night" and in normal conversation, this is understood as me saying I don't "usually" do those things. I can also tell you I "worked all weekend" or even that I "sat at my computer all afternoon" when in reality I might mean I worked for 4-5 hours each weekend day, and that I was at my computer most of the time, except when I got up to get a drink, go to the bathroom, head to starbucks, etc., etc.

The average American speaks in generalization, hyperbole and exaggeration pretty much every day. This tendency is even stronger among less educated people, and people who have not had professional jobs, because these are people who have not been critiqued or really challenged in their spoken words, and because these verbal communication habits also go hand in hand with a fatalistic world view. So I think everything Misty has said about that evening is true, and the perceived mistakes are due to this communication issue and how she is generalizing and not really thinking out her answers before the words come out of her mouth.

Now, that said, I do think there is a chance she left that night or had a visitor someplace nearby. But for all we know, she admitted that part very early on and it was LE and the media that chose not to release it. But everything else from that night I think is the truth, but it's mangled up because she is not used to having anyone hang on her words. She probably has never really had anyone actively listen to her in her life and is probably only used to speaking words in stream of consciousness.

Personally, I think it's the Reynolds guy or somebody else camped out in the woods, who saw a propped door and went in for food, and then got more brazen and decided to see who was in the house. Or the child woke up and came into the kitchen and he took her then.

QFE..

This is consistent with what I've been thinking for a while. People have to get around the dialect and thought process of those folks there, and not take everything so literally. Hence the claims of story changes.

I still think the kid.. Misty... knows something she's not telling, but I think people are hanging onto things that aren't really as relevant as they think.

[3dogmom]

I agree, but I didnt make my thought/opinion very clear....She had her head UP, and walked out like she was saying Ha! smell me people, I'm clean. I haven't seen Mistys head up ever. I think it was on the same station as the press conference..She looked pretty confident to me. Remember the sheriff saying she would walk out of the station today?
Where is my fiddle...oh there it is:boohoo:. They are playing her like one

Sorry, but is there a video of this?

[mysteriew]

Yes, I agree. She looked different today. Ron wasn't with her. Maybe that was part of it.

What I saw was, I think another poster mentioned it, a Casey wannabee. I think the new "celebrity status" is starting to affect Misty. She strutted out of that station doing a somewhat toned down version of the Casey~sashay.

Hmmmm... maybe Misty won't be as easy to crack as I originally thought.

In a change of attitude, anger could do it too. If LE really put pressure on her in the interview, they could have made her angry. If she thought she didn't really give anything away, then that would have made her feel more confident. So when she walked out, she might have strutted.

[JBean]

Knock off the name calling and the negative posting. Discuss the case, the possibilities, the facts. but leave the name calling crap outside.

[Egoslayer]

I agree with FlaSleuth. I don't think her story really changed, she just talks quickly. Like when she said she was the mother - I can see how it's easy to do that in a hard situation where you don't want to explain that you're the live in girlfriend.

There is still a chance she left that night though, the circumstances are hard to believe that someone just came in and snatched the little girl if they were all in the same room.

[Nikki777]

lolype29
It was from myspace pics and comments on her SIL's sites,but one has went private.

~winterrose~
Could you go to www.myspace.com/106867975 (http://www.myspace.com/106867975)
I love my baby misty for ever
Do you know who he is....Chelsea & Misty only 2 posts 2007 & 2006

[Nikki777]

~winterrose~
I went to cc myspace.....down to view all chelsea friends...click ALL
go to pg 2 it is the 3rd pic from left.....I knew he looked familiar. It
was 2006 he would be 21 now & MC would have been 13 or 14...Ya know
it could be her bf. I'll start looking tomorrow...gotta get to sleep. See
what you can find out. Thanks

[Kat]

Didn't MC live in Daytona with one of her brothers for awhile before moving up to Putname County? Looks like the guy above could be an old boyfriend.

Even if he hasn't logged in wouldn't his age automatically update if he had entered his DOB when he set up that page?

The more I see lil missy on TV the more I don't think she's a sweet, vulnerable and innocent as we are lead to believe. I caught that sashay too. Here's the deal though, she might be hard, she might have street smarts out the yingyang but she's no match for seasoned detectives. (O/T but KC just found that out herself when they video taped her reaction at the nurses station, game up to say the least)

[catch_22]

misty told matt lauer that her cousin from tenn has been a criminal his whole life and she doesn't trust him. she hasn't talked to him since he left his visit to florida. i wish he matt would have asked her when the cousin left.

[NSC]

~winterrose~
Could you go to www.myspace.com/106867975 (http://www.myspace.com/106867975)
I love my baby misty for ever
Do you know who he is....Chelsea & Misty only 2 posts 2007 & 2006


Nikki, GREAT sleuthing!!!! :clap:

[not_my_kids]

The "new" misty, as she was walking out of the police station, this is what I have been talking about. It's been a week and a half, the facade is slipping.
IMO, this is the real Misty, cocky and self assured, not the poor little beaten down child routine she has been playing for the cameras.

[tehcloser]

The "new" misty, as she was walking out of the police station, this is what I have been talking about. It's been a week and a half, the facade is slipping.
IMO, this is the real Misty, cocky and self assured, not the poor little beaten down child routine she has been playing for the cameras.


I noticed she seemed cockier on the interview with Matt L. today. I think you are right.

[ksgirl78]

Maybe she is getting to be more confident being that Ron and his mother are standing behind her, at least through the media, and that LE hasn't arrested her yet. She may be thinking that she is in the clear...

JMO

[Aries72]

Girlfriend of Haleigh's dad sticks to story

Feb. 20: TODAY's Matt Lauer talks to the grandmother of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, Teresa Neves, and Haleigh's father's girlfriend, Misty Croslin, about the search for the little girl.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/29298458#29298458

Whoa...her attitude sure has changed.

[catch_22]

i agree that misty is acting differently, but i can't say that it is pointing me in a direction of her guilt.

if she is innocent: the shock is probably wearing off. time heals all wounds......

if she is guilty: maybe she is getting more comfortable with being interrogated and she thinks that she is going to get away with it......

[Kat]

Girlfriend of Haleigh's dad sticks to story

Feb. 20: TODAY's Matt Lauer talks to the grandmother of missing 5-year-old Haleigh Cummings, Teresa Neves, and Haleigh's father's girlfriend, Misty Croslin, about the search for the little girl.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/29298458#29298458

Whoa...her attitude sure has changed.


Oh yes her attitude has changed. I think as time goes on we are going to get glimpes of the real Misty. I thought it was interesting they showed video of her as we saw her in the beginning. Soft voiced, whiney almost, casting big eyes about looking very young even for her age.

Then contrasted we see her in the clip above, head cocked to the side, a little bit of defiance in her voice. Hmmmmm....

[Mamie]

Misty really needs to be quiet. Is she enjoying the media attention?

I did notice that she had a HS jacket on this morning.

[SeriouslySearching]

Hmmm...she does seem more confident and a bit defiant. She did come out and call her cousin a long time "criminal". Is she slinging heat off herself or does she really suspect he could have something to do with this?

I guess it is a good sign that no one in the fam has "lawyered up" yet and they are still talking to LE.

[kellync]

Hmmm...she does seem more confident and a bit defiant. She did come out and call her cousin a long time "criminal". Is she slinging heat off herself or does she really suspect he could have something to do with this?

I guess it is a good sign that no one in the fam has "lawyered up" yet and they are still talking to LE.
I can not believe she doesnt have a lawyer. Law enforcement is having a field day with her, Im sure. "they just keep asking me the same things, goin over what happened that night" --Today show interview
Yeah, Ill bet they do....
I liked it when she said something about it wasnt that much time until she called the "cops"

[KaylynnCouture]

Yep, her attitude really has changed.

I still don't understand why (if she was abducted) the perp would've taken Haleigh out of her pink shirt. That makes no sense to me.

[dunlurken]

Yep, her attitude really has changed.

I still don't understand why (if she was abducted) the perp would've taken Haleigh out of her pink shirt. That makes no sense to me.
I think LE is on to Misty. Not sure where it's going, but something just isn't right.

So she partied too hard over the weekend to wake up Monday night when a stranger came in and abducted Haleigh?

[Kat]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18757783/index.html

Angelwhocares posted the link above on the media for today thread.

Very different young lady there speaking IMHO from what we saw at the beginning of this situation.

[kikid]

her face is very defiant in the recent interviews. I thought I noticed a hidden smile or grin in some of the footage of her leaving her last police interview - I'll need to look at it again though.

[kikid]

I think LE is on to Misty. Not sure where it's going, but something just isn't right.

So she partied too hard over the weekend to wake up Monday night when a stranger came in and abducted Haleigh?

Maybe Haleigh got up and changed herself in the middle of the night if she had an accident?? that may explain the different clothes, would also put Haleigh awake, turning on lights in the middle of the night. Wondering if police found urine on sheets & blanket Misty says she covered her with at 10??

[kaych]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18757783/index.html

Angelwhocares posted the link above on the media for today thread.

Very different young lady there speaking IMHO from what we saw at the beginning of this situation.


All I see is a girl who appears to be tired of being accused.

[Kat]

Maybe Haleigh got up and changed herself in the middle of the night if she had an accident?? that may explain the different clothes, would also put Haleigh awake, turning on lights in the middle of the night. Wondering if police found urine on sheets & blanket Misty says she covered her with at 10??

That's a very good question. And that scenario is not out of the question in my mind.

[Kat]

All I see is a girl who appears to be tired of being accused.


I hope you are right kaych and that I'm wrong. I hope that Haleigh is alive and well somewhere.

[ksgirl78]

i agree that misty is acting differently, but i can't say that it is pointing me in a direction of her guilt.

if she is innocent: the shock is probably wearing off. time heals all wounds......

if she is guilty: maybe she is getting more comfortable with being interrogated and she thinks that she is going to get away with it......

Bolded by me.

I said this earlier, don't remember where I posted it at though, but yeah, ITA!!!

her face is very defiant in the recent interviews. I thought I noticed a hidden smile or grin in some of the footage of her leaving her last police interview - I'll need to look at it again though.

I had the same thought and am just now watching the NG show that I tivo'd from last night, they show the footage of her leaving to go to the police station and coming out...she sure looks like she has a smirk when she sees the cameras! JMO

[Indigo]

The pink shirt just about clinches it for me. According to the latest interview, LE asked Misty to come inside the trailer and help them look for the clothing that Haleigh had worn to school that day. This is when Misty reportedly found the pink top Haleigh had been wearing --in the dirty clothes pile. I believe LE had already found the top matching the description and wanted to see what Misty would say about it. JMO

Everyone in the family still insists that Haleigh was wearing that top when she was put to bed, but it makes no sense. What intruder would take the time to undress a child and put her clothes in the dirty laundry pile? No matter who it was they'd want to get in and out as fast as possible.

[drip~drop]

her face is very defiant in the recent interviews. I thought I noticed a hidden smile or grin in some of the footage of her leaving her last police interview - I'll need to look at it again though.

I noticed that. Thinkin' she likes the attention.

Also, it's weird how she's always being "put in" vehicles. She's 17....she can't open and close the doors herself?:waitasec:

:cow:
imo

[liljim]

she seems different yes but i dont read too much into it yet, she doesnt seem to be enjoying it imo, she might just be worn out and people are really starting to talk to her like she is hiding something and it has her a little defensive.

i havent seen anything from her yet that makes me think she is guilty of anything.

[blubuni99]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18757783/index.html

Angelwhocares posted the link above on the media for today thread.

Very different young lady there speaking IMHO from what we saw at the beginning of this situation.

She looked to me like she would have sit there and talked about it - her mom sure wasn't too happy. 'Get in the car MISTY!" - I bet her family was upset she was pointing fingers inside her own family. Her mom didn't seem to happy.
Just to say - if my mom thought I had hurt a little kid (especially after KC Anthony - the whole thing really affected her), she would make me talk. Crystals mom, Ron's mom are all in front of cameras, talking but Misty's mom sure didn't want her talking. I know it's not her granddaughter but her attitude wasn't very nice.
Was that interview after the Today show interview? Like, directly after?

[NSC]

I understand why everyone is reading into the videos. Heck, I come up with some crazy theories. But I wonder if maybe she is trying to be more strong looking because of earlier criticism - it goes both ways. We are going to analyze her to death regardless of how she looks.

I still think she was stoned the night Hayleigh disappeared and this is the reason for all the inconsitancies.

[kikid]

She looked to me like she would have sit there and talked about it - her mom sure wasn't too happy. 'Get in the car MISTY!" - I bet her family was upset she was pointing fingers inside her own family. Her mom didn't seem to happy.
Just to say - if my mom thought I had hurt a little kid (especially after KC Anthony - the whole thing really affected her), she would make me talk. Crystals mom, Ron's mom are all in front of cameras, talking but Misty's mom sure didn't want her talking. I know it's not her granddaughter but her attitude wasn't very nice.
Was that interview after the Today show interview? Like, directly after?

yep, thought that myself - Mom is protecting her daughter, but from what?? Being accused by media, being made to look stupid, from accusing a relative?? who knows but mama was in protection mode.

[kikid]

one last thought on the interview, when she is talking about her relative - I couldn't help yelling at the screen, "Why did you have him in your home and around children then?????????"!!!!!!!!

I mean come on, every family has someone that is maybe into some kind of trouble... or really a bad egg in one way or another, but you don't invite those people over and into your home especially with children around!

[Indiana at Heart]

MC and Ron mom was just on NBC and she said I woke up looked for my cell phone to call Ron and seen Hayleigh was not in her bed.

[blubuni99]

MC and Ron mom was just on NBC and she said I woke up looked for my cell phone to call Ron and seen Hayleigh was not in her bed.

.... she said she woke up for the purpose of looking for her phone to call Ron and then noticed Haleigh wasnt in her bed? So she was going to call Ron BEFORE she noticed Haleigh gone? That's completely NOT what she was saying before, if this is right. :confused:

Is there a link?

[tehcloser]

Oh yeah. We are definitely seeing a different Misty.

[Mamie]

"I still think she was stoned the night Hayleigh disappeared and this is the reason for all the inconsitancies."

And what we saw this morning was a cold stone clean Misty. We hadn't seen that before. MOO

[mydailyopinions]

Misty does seem a bit different. She does seem more defiant.
I do still think this all lays on her shoulders, she did something with and to Haleigh..Now she seems to be angry that she is not the full attention of those around her..
I just wonder how many more trips downtown it will take before she cracks.

[liljim]

now i dont know what i think, because for the last 20 minutes all i can think of when i consider the propped open door is - STAGED.

[ksgirl78]

now i dont know what i think, because for the last 20 minutes all i can think of when i consider the propped open door is - STAGED.

Sadly, I have thought this from the beginning! I just cannot figure out who exactly staged it...MC or RC are my main guesses though!

As for the interview on NBC with RC and MC, has anyone found a link?

[DotsEyes]

Sorry, I don't think MC could get through so many interviews and polygraphs without spilling the beans if she knew anything. I think she is telling the truth. She hasn't lawyered up, never refused to speak to LE and agreed to be polygraphed at least twice. She has fully cooperated. The media is saying that she gave inconsistent statements and everyone is going along with these reports. LE didn't say anything about inconsistencies.

I would not read anything into MC being "home" this morning. Maybe she needed a bath and some sleep in a warm house. The tent must be cold and she is surely exhausted.

If Ron was not at the press conference, it is probably because he is searching the woods with the police.

I believe these folks.

[tehcloser]

Sorry, I don't think MC could get through so many interviews and polygraphs without spilling the beans if she knew anything. I think she is telling the truth. She hasn't lawyered up, never refused to speak to LE and agreed to be polygraphed at least twice. She has fully cooperated. The media is saying that she gave inconsistent statements and everyone is going along with these reports. LE didn't say anything about inconsistencies.

I would not read anything into MC being "home" this morning. Maybe she needed a bath and some sleep in a warm house. The tent must be cold and she is surely exhausted.

If Ron was not at the press conference, it is probably because he is searching the woods with the police.

I believe these folks.

Ron's mom said he was inside the tent. He's not searching. She said he is having a hard day.

[passionflower]

Misty may have gone home to clean up and rest before beeing Matt Lauerer.
It looks like she colored her hair back to her regular color to me.
A good night sleep and be with parents, she is a minor and needs more support.

[ksgirl78]

Sorry, I don't think MC could get through so many interviews and polygraphs without spilling the beans if she knew anything. I think she is telling the truth. She hasn't lawyered up, never refused to speak to LE and agreed to be polygraphed at least twice. She has fully cooperated. The media is saying that she gave inconsistent statements and everyone is going along with these reports. LE didn't say anything about inconsistencies.

I would not read anything into MC being "home" this morning. Maybe she needed a bath and some sleep in a warm house. The tent must be cold and she is surely exhausted.

If Ron was not at the press conference, it is probably because he is searching the woods with the police.

I believe these folks.

Bolded by me.

I tried to put myself in the shoes I see Misty in...which is involved...this morning. If I had done something or had a hand in doing something to Haleigh and it had come to this...I would not speak up either. I would not crack and give myself up! I would wait until I was caught and hope to hell that I could keep whatever story I had made up going and trying my hardest to keep them from suspecting me, even if that meant adding new characters to the story days later...KWIM??? (Of course, I have never been involved nor will I ever be in harming a child...just theorizing!)

Just the fact that Teresa said...she is at HOME...was a red flag! Her home is with Ron! When the reporter still questioned this she in turn said no she is not here she is at HOME! Ron and Misty's home is still considered a crime scene, so that is not the HOME she is referring to! Makes me think that Ron and Misty are not a couple any longer???

Which makes me wonder, maybe Ron is thinking Misty is fixing to go down for something and part of the reason he is having such a hard day???

Ron is not searching with LE today. During the presser Teresa stated he had no one to search with! Such a sad statement coming from her. My heart is breaking for this woman!