2009.02.19 1:00 pm Haleighs family press conference

[kellync]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18750828/index.html
According to this video, Haleigh's family will have a press conference at 1:00 and the sheriff's office will hold one at 3:00.
This video also states that Misty was driven away by deputies just as the reporter was starting the report. It also shows the tent that the family is living in.

[kellync]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18738968/index.html
LINK

[tehcloser]

Misty is with LE right now.

[tehcloser]

He knows nothing about where the shirt was found, some good leads were brought up according to PGM, We want the truth. Anyone could have done anything

[PGWodehouse]

Dad: no suspicions of anyone. If I knew I'd have my daughter. I believe Misty is telling the truth.

[PGWodehouse]

Dad: This is about my daughter missing, not about my life.

[tehcloser]

He believes Misty is telling the truth. Need to focus on Haleigh not what is going on in his life. "It;s about my daughter missing" No fight with cousin over gun.

[tehcloser]

Talk to LE. He does not want to talk about Misty being involved.

[rosepetal1065]

He handles the press...well. He doesn't fold under pressure from them.

[Recovering-Lurker]

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=111540&catid=17

[Ezryder9]

If you want to know anything about the detectives, ask the detectives.

[tehcloser]

He possibly has another child.

[PGWodehouse]

Dad says he might "possibly" have another child.

[momtective]

Another child...Aylyn?

[AuburnJenn]

Sorry, Ron, but you and your family/associates' lifestyles are extremely important to this case IMO. Associating with known criminals, SOs, druggies, etc is pretty crucial. Yes it seems ugly but how can you not pick apart these lives when trying to find a little child? What else is there to go on?

[KDB]

He "possibly" has another child besides Jr and Haleigh

[tehcloser]

Thanks everyone who has helped. Keeps saying ask LE for details.

[Ezryder9]

No tips to him personally.

[tehcloser]

Talking about birthmark. Day 9 frustration.....

[PGWodehouse]

To daughter: I love you and we'll find you.

[tehcloser]

Baby I love you and we will find you.

[Ezryder9]

If you're watching baby, we love you. We will find you.

[rosepetal1065]

Grandma pleads for the baby to be returned safe

[tehcloser]

Donations at funeral home??????????????????????

[Becky319]

This poor family you can tell they are heartbroken

[Ezryder9]

I'll be here every day until my child returns.

[tehcloser]

A guy from funeral home set up donation account. at boa.

[amandab]

Dad says he might "possibly" have another child.

He gives us this bit of info, but doesn't want people to talk about his life??

[PGWodehouse]

Donation fund for Haleigh at BOA

[Ezryder9]

Bank of America. The Haleigh C fund.

[tehcloser]

Shirts and buttons

[momtective]

I rewound and he did say "Aylyn" when asked if he had another child.

[rosepetal1065]

Bank of america fund set up for costs incurred by the search

[tehcloser]

Shirts and buttons at funeral home.

[pirate]

He gives us this bit of info, but doesn't want people to talk about his life??


It's none of our business as long as he is being candid with LE. He owes us nothing.


I wonder why Misty was taken away again.

[lovelabs]

Ya know, I'm glad that the media is being good about keeping Haliegh in the news. But why oh why do they ask those stupid (IMO)questions? "How do you feel?" oh come on now, how do you think they feel. Gee, my daughter is missing for 9 days now, I'm surrounded by 44 know sex offenders, and oh my daughter is missing for 9 days now. ARGGG... I guess this should go to the rant thread, but it just kills me on some of the questions people ask.

[tehcloser]

He did not really sound like he believed Misty. IMO.

[amandab]

It's none of our business as long as he is being candid with LE. He owes us nothing.


I wonder why Misty was taken away again.

I completely agree, just saw it as a contradiction, that's all.

[tehcloser]

Well...that was interesting.

[MCDRAW]

When they have their press conference, will someone please give a review? I won't be able to see it. Thanks in advance.

[tehcloser]

When they have their press conference, will someone please give a review? I won't be able to see it. Thanks in advance.


Read back...we did.

[colomom]

Just caught the last few seconds....wow, that is one pi$$ed off dude. Was he like that during the entire thing?

[LaLaw2000]

I wondered when the plea for money would come! Guy from a funeral home? IMO, they should have just left this sentence out!

Ronald could not be more wrong that this is not about his life or private life.

Misty is with detectives right now. Time for her to tell the whole truth. It should not be that difficult. You can recite the truth over and over with no variations.

I don't believe any of them any longer.

[babycat]

Sorry, Ron, but you and your family/associates' lifestyles are extremely important to this case IMO. Associating with known criminals, SOs, druggies, etc is pretty crucial. Yes it seems ugly but how can you not pick apart these lives when trying to find a little child? What else is there to go on?

Yes, but as long as he's giving that info to the police, I'm happy. I wouldn't air it out in the press either, really, might lose sympathy, cause people to stop looking/start suspecting him.

I do agree with you, though.

[tehcloser]

Me either LaLaw.....me either.

[PattyCake]

It's none of our business as long as he is being candid with LE. He owes us nothing.


I wonder why Misty was taken away again.

Why is it okay to pick apart the A's but not this family? The child is missing, irresponsible people were in charge of this child. Stories are changing and not making any sense.

I think the public is allowed to talk & discuss. He can say anything he wants, it's his words, LE isn't confirming or denying. How do we know he's not trying to hide something? Are we getting too close?

[babycat]

Donations at funeral home??????????????????????

No, at a bank:) Bank of America, right?

[Becky319]

He was very humble thanking all the law enforcement people, volunteers, and TES, I know Tim Miller had to be a big comfort to him

[kellync]

When the reporter asked if Ron believed Misty was telling the truth, and if he believed she was at hme, he answered"I believe she is telling the truth" (Did not specifically say he believes she was home, or anything about being home)
He said "I dont know whats what"
"Concentrate on my daughter missing, not whats goin on in my life"
"No fight, no cousin, no gun"
Reporter:"Do you have another child besides Jr and Haleigh?" pause........"possibly"

[Sprout]

Thanks everyone for the recap on the presser.

[tehcloser]

No, at a bank:) Bank of America, right?

Was typing as it was live...yes they said the account was at boa...but buttons and t shirts are at funeral home and are available for donations.

[LaLaw2000]

Me either LaLaw.....me either.

I think everytime that Misty is with detectives Ronald is worried.

I also think Ronald was trying to work up some real tears and couldn't quite do it.

IMO, this presser was for the sake of asking for money.

This is just the way I see it. My opinion.

[tehcloser]

Has anyone else noticed that Misty is at police station more than she is not? What does that tell ya?

[kellync]

He is in a tent donated by the funeral home on property someone is letting him use, and someone has provided him with a flat screen tv, and allowed him to run cable to it, so they can watch television.
Before the presser, in the video that showed the inside of the tent, Misty had just left with detectives, and she was in the house across the street. It looked to me like the house on Chelseas myspace. The one where the Christmas lights are on the front porch. FWIW

[SailorMoon]

I think we'll see charges in the next 48 hrs. or so.

[babycat]

Why is it okay to pick apart the A's but not this family? The child is missing, irresponsible people were in charge of this child. Stories are changing and not making any sense.

I think the public is allowed to talk & discuss. He can say anything he wants, it's his words, LE isn't confirming or denying. How do we know he's not trying to hide something? Are we getting too close?

Well, I never really agreed with "picking apart" the A's, but I think he's avoiding the same mistake they made. They answered questions publicly about all sorts of stuff they shouldn't have talked about, and a lot of the focused was shifted to them, publicly. I'm not saying this is wrong, I'm just saying from THEIR standpoint, they would have been better to keep the focus on Caylee, and not answered nanny questions, Casey's lies, etc.

So I really feel like if he knows he has nothing to do with Haleigh missing, he's trying to keep the focus on her.

I don't see anything wrong with it. He's doing what people begged the A's to do all along: shut up and focus on your (grand)daughter.

[tehcloser]

I think we'll see charges in the next 48 hrs. or so.

I pray that you are right!!!!!!!

[lillyfrog]

I think we'll see charges in the next 48 hrs. or so.

Same here. I think something is going to break before the end of the week

[raeann]

Well, he couldn't be more wrong that it's not about his life. His life and the people and the choices he has made for his children are the main reason this girl is missing. She was put at risk by that lifestyle and his choice of a caretaker.

[Lexington]

Has anyone else noticed that Misty is at police station more than she is not? What does that tell ya?

It tells me that she has inside information that is valuable to LE. Also, that she would be the easier one to "break".

[shadow of my mind]

Sounds if maybe someone has made a claim that a child is his and and paternity has not been determined as of yet. At least he did not outright deny it

[tehcloser]

Well if they were going to be quiet...maybe they should have done that from the start instead of changing their stories so many times.......

[pirate]

Why is it okay to pick apart the A's but not this family? The child is missing, irresponsible people were in charge of this child. Stories are changing and not making any sense.

I think the public is allowed to talk & discuss. He can say anything he wants, it's his words, LE isn't confirming or denying. How do we know he's not trying to hide something? Are we getting too close?

I never said it's ok for one family but not another.

And I didn't realize the purpose of Websleuths is to pick people apart. I'm not here to do that. I'm near to learn and study issues of murders and missing persons.
And again, Ron does not owe the public any explanations about anything in his personal life. As long as he's being honest with the police he doesn't owe us anything.

If there is another child he should not publicize it- after all, one of his children is already missing. Who is to say that whomever has Haleigh would not try to take that one too???

[petresq_algc]

Well, I never really agreed with "picking apart" the A's, but I think he's avoiding the same mistake they made. They answered questions publicly about all sorts of stuff they shouldn't have talked about, and a lot of the focused was shifted to them, publicly. I'm not saying this is wrong, I'm just saying from THEIR standpoint, they would have been better to keep the focus on Caylee, and not answered nanny questions, Casey's lies, etc.

So I really feel like if he knows he has nothing to do with Haleigh missing, he's trying to keep the focus on her.

I don't see anything wrong with it. He's doing what people begged the A's to do all along: shut up and focus on your (grand)daughter.

I agree. I think he is doing a good job by asking the media to stay focused on Haleigh.

[jaimie43]

It's none of our business


Interesting comment, considering the nature of this forum....

[kellync]

He is in a tent donated by the funeral home on property someone is letting him use, and someone has provided him with a flat screen tv, and allowed him to run cable to it, so they can watch television.
Before the presser, in the video that showed the inside of the tent, Misty had just left with detectives, and she was in the house across the street. It looked to me like the house on Chelseas myspace. The one where the Christmas lights are on the front porch. FWIW

Not the same house, sorry

[PattyCake]

Well, I never really agreed with "picking apart" the A's, but I think he's avoiding the same mistake they made. They answered questions publicly about all sorts of stuff they shouldn't have talked about, and a lot of the focused was shifted to them, publicly. I'm not saying this is wrong, I'm just saying from THEIR standpoint, they would have been better to keep the focus on Caylee, and not answered nanny questions, Casey's lies, etc.

So I really feel like if he knows he has nothing to do with Haleigh missing, he's trying to keep the focus on her.

I don't see anything wrong with it. He's doing what people begged the A's to do all along: shut up and focus on your (grand)daughter.

Some good points for me to ponder. :)

[SWAG1959]

Well...that was interesting.
Why yes teh it sure 'nough was. RC admitted to "possibly" having another child - well which is it? Either you DO or you DON'T! IMO he does - and that article from yesterday was true.

Noticing body language - RC had arms crossed - defensive action. Eyes - both gma and dad several times looked down and left. If they don't want to answer sensitive questions and have their lives "drug through the mud" then why hold a press conference?

Now, on to the funeral home that is helping the family out. Funeral home printed up shirts and buttons - they were distributing them. Now, they are asking for "donations" for the shirts and buttons. hmmmm......sound familiar? Donations to BOA - funeral home guy will give out acct number so media can post.

Wow - I have to just digest this. Thought dad vowed off the media.

[AuburnJenn]

I just find it completely weird that he doesn't want his lifestyle investigated/talked about when his little daughter has apparently vanished into thin air. If your child is missing and you are innocent, what do you have to hide? Why not be open and transparent regarding everything about you? Sure it may bring some embarrassment or hurt feelings, but YOUR CHILD IS MISSING!

I am not sure if he is embarrassed or what about some of the obvious irresponsible behavior surrounding that child, but I would think he would want to be an open book if that helps find his daughter.

[Indiana at Heart]

I never said it's ok for one family but not another.

And I didn't realize the purpose of Websleuths is to pick people apart. I'm not here to do that. I'm near to learn and study issues of murders and missing persons.
And again, Ron does not owe the public any explanations about anything in his personal life. As long as he's being honest with the police he doesn't owe us anything.

If there is another child he should not publicize it- after all, one of his children is already missing. Who is to say that whomever has Haleigh would not try to take that one too???



I agree!!!!

[NSC]

Sounds if maybe someone has made a claim that a child is his and and paternity has not been determined as of yet. At least he did not outright deny it

Right, and my question would be -- who is this mother? Does she have a grudge? Ron takes care of Haleigh and Ron JR. -- do you think it is possible for a revenge or vengeful type situation???

Also, it was mentioned that MC might have been babysitting Rons "other" child. Was she really babysitting this "other" child and that is how they met??? But paternity has not been established???

[babycat]

Some good points for me to ponder. :)

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that obviously I want to know about the inside info- hell, I think it's human nature;) I just think from his standpoint, he's probably doing what is best for him. Whether that's honorable or not....I can only hope it is....:(

cheers

[tehcloser]

I never said it's ok for one family but not another.

And I didn't realize the purpose of Websleuths is to pick people apart. I'm not here to do that. I'm near to learn and study issues of murders and missing persons.
And again, Ron does not owe the public any explanations about anything in his personal life. As long as he's being honest with the police he doesn't owe us anything.

If there is another child he should not publicize it- after all, one of his children is already missing. Who is to say that whomever has Haleigh would not try to take that one too???

Had they not started changing their stories...which is why people started "picking" them apart....we would not be focused on them. They, just like the A's have caused the attention by their own actions. I for one do knot believe he is being truthful with LE....

[3dogmom]

Not the same house, sorry

That was Misty's father in the wheelchair.

[babycat]

I just find it completely weird that he doesn't want his lifestyle investigated/talked about when his little daughter has apparently vanished into thin air. If your child is missing and you are innocent, what do you have to hide? Why not be open and transparent regarding everything about you? Sure it may bring some embarrassment or hurt feelings, but YOUR CHILD IS MISSING!

I am not sure if he is embarrassed or what about some of the obvious irresponsible behavior surrounding that child, but I would think he would want to be an open book if that helps find his daughter.


Yes, but unfortunately an "open book" can be distracting for the public. I can tell you right now, if I child was missing, I would try to keep people looking for her, and not focusing on my family drama (and boy, do I always have a lot of family drama :crazy:) As long as he is being an "open book" with the police, if they think something is relevant enough to generate tips, I feel sure that they'll release it:)

I think he is handling it much better than the A's

[tehcloser]

Why yes teh it sure 'nough was. RC admitted to "possibly" having another child - well which is it? Either you DO or you DON'T! IMO he does - and that article from yesterday was true.

Noticing body language - RC had arms crossed - defensive action. Eyes - both gma and dad several times looked down and left. If they don't want to answer sensitive questions and have their lives "drug through the mud" then why hold a press conference?

Now, on to the funeral home that is helping the family out. Funeral home printed up shirts and buttons - they were distributing them. Now, they are asking for "donations" for the shirts and buttons. hmmmm......sound familiar? Donations to BOA - funeral home guy will give out acct number so media can post.

Wow - I have to just digest this. Thought dad vowed off the media.

Can't stay away from media...when ya need to get info out. :crazy:

[NSC]

Had they not started changing their stories...which is why people started "picking" them apart....we would not be focused on them. They, just like the A's have caused the attention by their own actions. I for one do knot believe he is being truthful with LE....

I think what you say could be the case. Heck, at this point anything is possible!

But I still wonder perhaps if MC is just not a great witness??

[LaLaw2000]

It tells me that she has inside information that is valuable to LE. Also, that she would be the easier one to "break".

I thought so in the beginning and I still think so. I have been waiting for Misty to break from the beginning and am looking for it to happen any time now. I hope FBI is asking her questions because it IS a crime to lie to them.

[Nikki777]

He is in a tent donated by the funeral home on property someone is letting him use, and someone has provided him with a flat screen tv, and allowed him to run cable to it, so they can watch television.
Before the presser, in the video that showed the inside of the tent, Misty had just left with detectives, and she was in the house across the street. It looked to me like the house on Chelseas myspace. The one where the Christmas lights are on the front porch. FWIW

Maybe Misty could move in at police station since she is spending so
much time there.....Why wouldn't a local motel give them a room?

[Tom'sGirl]

Well, he couldn't be more wrong that it's not about his life. His life and the people and the choices he has made for his children are the main reason this girl is missing. She was put at risk by that lifestyle and his choice of a caretaker.

Although lifestyles can be the reason for child abduction, often they are NOT.

[NSC]

Would the feds or local LE give Ron or Misty Immunity to any other illegal activities they might be involved in, if they provided info about who, what, where or what could have happend that could be the *link* to where Hayleigh is??

[kidz110]

I think everytime that Misty is with detectives Ronald is worried.

I also think Ronald was trying to work up some real tears and couldn't quite do it.

IMO, this presser was for the sake of asking for money.

This is just the way I see it. My opinion.
I have to say that I agree. Until the Anthony case, I don't ever remember seeing a family ask for donations or sell t-shirts and buttons. I worry about this.

[PattyCake]

I never said it's ok for one family but not another.

And I didn't realize the purpose of Websleuths is to pick people apart. I'm not here to do that. I'm near to learn and study issues of murders and missing persons.
And again, Ron does not owe the public any explanations about anything in his personal life. As long as he's being honest with the police he doesn't owe us anything.

If there is another child he should not publicize it- after all, one of his children is already missing. Who is to say that whomever has Haleigh would not try to take that one too???


Why can't we discuss Haleigh's life & parents here? I suppose I'd support your point of view if you've never posted on Caylees thread discussing the A's. And I don't know if you have or haven't. I understand your point of view, for me though, when there's a child missing & stories are changing... truth not being told, then everything should be under scrutiny.

He may not owe us anything or be willing to discuss, I'm concerned we're getting to close to something he doesn't want out there. That's bothersome to me.

[KR2tonenow]

Yes, but as long as he's giving that info to the police, I'm happy. I wouldn't air it out in the press either, really, might lose sympathy, cause people to stop looking/start suspecting him.

I do agree with you, though.

If he had nothing to hide then it shouldn't be a problem. When you put your child in an Alligator pit, and people will have questions, right??? Why be surprised?? No, Misty, is NOT telling the truth.

[jaimie43]

Although lifestyles can be the reason for child abduction, often they are NOT.

In this case, I think the lifestyle is important. It may not be THE REASON this happened but it may have contributed to it.

[SWAG1959]

I never said it's ok for one family but not another.

And I didn't realize the purpose of Websleuths is to pick people apart. I'm not here to do that. I'm near to learn and study issues of murders and missing persons.
And again, Ron does not owe the public any explanations about anything in his personal life. As long as he's being honest with the police he doesn't owe us anything.

If there is another child he should not publicize it- after all, one of his children is already missing. Who is to say that whomever has Haleigh would not try to take that one too???
Pirate - in order to "learn and study" about murders you have to delve into the lives surrounding those murdered and the murderers.

Having another child is very relevant. Was the mother of the other child going after child support? Did she have another bf who has been hounding RC for support money? Could there be a conflict as to WHO the baby daddy is? More than one guy involved?

Of course we discuss and "sleuth" to find answers - we don't do it to persecute anyone. We do it to find "the lost child". HALEIGH is what comes first. Finding her alive is the main goal.

The people here have their hearts in the right place. During Caylee's case one WS'r identified an unknown person and consequently solved that case.

Sometimes studying and learning involves topics and facts that are, well, not so pleasant. Does that mean it should stop? No.

[petresq_algc]

Yes, but unfortunately an "open book" can be distracting for the public. I can tell you right now, if I child was missing, I would try to keep people looking for her, and not focusing on my family drama (and boy, do I always have a lot of family drama :crazy:) As long as he is being an "open book" with the police, if they think something is relevant enough to generate tips, I feel sure that they'll release it:)

I think he is handling it much better than the A's

Yes. I am fine with him not giving personal info that he believes irrelevant out to the media. As long as he is being honest about it with police, what more can we ask for?

[tehcloser]

Would the feds or local LE give Ron or Misty Immunity to any other illegal activities they might be involved in, if they provided info about who, what, where or what could have happend that could be the *link* to where Hayleigh is??

Well I guess if a person was more interested in saving their own arse, than the well being of their child...I guess they would.:crazy:

[LaLaw2000]

In past cases of this sort LE has been able to eliminate the immediate family by this time. Eliminating immediate family and anyone living in the house is first. LE cannot get past them so something is wrong here. I know I am not saying anything all of us didn't already know, but not being able to eliminate Misty and Ronald makes me very suspicious.

[suzet]

I think everytime that Misty is with detectives Ronald is worried.

I also think Ronald was trying to work up some real tears and couldn't quite do it.

IMO, this presser was for the sake of asking for money.

This is just the way I see it. My opinion.

ITA. Right on the money.


It tells me that she has inside information that is valuable to LE. Also, that she would be the easier one to "break".

Yep, reminds me of this ooooooooollllllld Columbo episode (yes, dating myself). It was one of my favorites. Gene Barry killed his wife and Columbo didn't know how to prove it, so he decided to go after what he called, "the weakest link," and that was Gene Barry's young girlfriend (or secretary).

Yep, somebody out there is very very worried today.

[NSC]

Pirate - in order to "learn and study" about murders you have to delve into the lives surrounding those murdered and the murderers.

Having another child is very relevant. Was the mother of the other child going after child support? Did she have another bf who has been hounding RC for support money? Could there be a conflict as to WHO the baby daddy is? More than one guy involved?
Of course we discuss and "sleuth" to find answers - we don't do it to persecute anyone. We do it to find "the lost child". HALEIGH is what comes first. Finding her alive is the main goal.

The people here have their hearts in the right place. During Caylee's case one WS'r identified an unknown person and consequently solved that case.

Sometimes studying and learning involves topics and facts that are, well, not so pleasant. Does that mean it should stop? No.


I am going to start sleuthing into the unknown child. I just wanted to get the spelling of the name Ron brought up - thanks!

I agree with you btw.

[kellync]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18738968/index.html
Here is Crystal answering some questions today. She looks like she has gotten a hold of herself. This is a very telling interview. I put it up on media thread as well

[Beyond Belief]

Is anyone beside me diappointed in these press conferences. Personally I would like to see a photo of Haleigh that was clear enough and big enough to really be able to see what she looks like from head to toe. The photos provided don't give me a clear clue of what child I am looking for when searching thru the masses in the mall.
I would like to see something maybe 4x5 foot photo of her with this family pointing at the photo saying "Please, this is our Haleigh" If you see her please call and give the phone numbers.
More aggressive pleas on the part of the family.

[Indiana at Heart]

I have to say that I agree. Until the Anthony case, I don't ever remember seeing a family ask for donations or sell t-shirts and buttons. I worry about this.

He also said it was to help Ron's family as Ron as not been back to work since this happened. He still has bills to pay and keep Rj feed and took care of.

[Lexington]

In past cases of this sort LE has been able to eliminate the immediate family by this time. Eliminating immediate family and anyone living in the house is first. LE cannot get past them so something is wrong here. I know I am not saying anything all of us didn't already know, but not being able to eliminate Misty and Ronald makes me very suspicious.

Yes it is.

[jaimie43]

FWIW..I dont think anyone here personally feels like they are "owed" info from Ron or anyone else. We are just taking what we are given and running with it. Every angle must be explored to get to the truth.
"It will all come out in the wash" as my Gma used to say.

[kellync]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18738968/index.html
Here is Crystal answering some questions today. She looks like she has gotten a hold of herself. This is a very telling interview. I put it up on media thread as well
You may have to go just under the video screen and click "Haleighs mother talks to..."

[Brefie]

In past cases of this sort LE has been able to eliminate the immediate family by this time. Eliminating immediate family and anyone living in the house is first. LE cannot get past them so something is wrong here. I know I am not saying anything all of us didn't already know, but not being able to eliminate Misty and Ronald makes me very suspicious.

I disagree. The Ramseys and McCanns remained under suspicion forever!!

However, no one was ever charged in either crime, so I am not quite sure what to make of that!

[babycat]

If he had nothing to hide then it shouldn't be a problem. When you put your child in an Alligator pit, and people will have questions, right??? Why be surprised?? No, Misty, is NOT telling the truth.

I think we just disagree;) If I were devastated because my child were missing and I really though that my "family drama" etc had nothing to do with it, I wouldn't put it out in the media either. I'd tell the police, yes, but I wouldn't want to be made a villain/dissected in the media. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying people SHOULDN'T focus on his lifestyle. But naturally, if you put it out there, it's going to happen. If he goes on talking about family drama, obviously people are going to jump there.

I'm just saying it's not necessarily because he's hiding something. As long as he's telling this stuff to the police, I don't care. And frankly, he might not feel it's an "alligator pit". It might be what he's used to/the way he was raised, too.

I agree, I think Misty is lying about something.

[LaLaw2000]

Why yes teh it sure 'nough was. RC admitted to "possibly" having another child - well which is it? Either you DO or you DON'T! IMO he does - and that article from yesterday was true.

Noticing body language - RC had arms crossed - defensive action. Eyes - both gma and dad several times looked down and left. If they don't want to answer sensitive questions and have their lives "drug through the mud" then why hold a press conference?

Now, on to the funeral home that is helping the family out. Funeral home printed up shirts and buttons - they were distributing them. Now, they are asking for "donations" for the shirts and buttons. hmmmm......sound familiar? Donations to BOA - funeral home guy will give out acct number so media can post.

Wow - I have to just digest this. Thought dad vowed off the media.

I still think the whole point of the presser was to ask for donations.

[maswondering2]

I think he is handling it much better than the A's[/QUOTE]

I think the reason he is handling better is hes not spininng and adding doubt...He has nothing to hide onlike them....they needed to keep hidden the fact their daughter did something to their granddaughter....

Haleighs dad...hes not hiding anything ( to due with her disappearence ...IMO )..he wants his baby found ....hes begged for help and pleded for her to be brought home....he has also told her he loves her and will never give up......something we never once saw from the Anthonys!

[babycat]

FWIW..I dont think anyone here personally feels like they are "owed" info from Ron or anyone else. We are just taking what we are given and running with it. Every angle must be explored to get to the truth.
"It will all come out in the wash" as my Gma used to say.

I agree:) Obviously people want to know. A child is missing. It's very much a double edged sword....

[Brefie]

I still think the whole point of the presser was to ask for donations.

REALLY?? You don't think LE might have suggested it?

[LaLaw2000]

I disagree. The Ramseys and McCanns remained under suspicion forever!!

However, no one was ever charged in either crime, so I am not quite sure what to make of that!


And I am still not so sure about either of those two families either!

[shadow of my mind]

I found that when he crossed his arms it was after question about him. What we don't know is if LE has asked him not to speak about certain issues. He clearly is having a difficult time not letting his anger bubble up. I get the impression that Ron knows that he has an anger management issue and he is doing his best to keep that under control.

In a lot of families little boys are taught by example that showing fear or tears is not being a 'real man' but you are allowed to be angry so the tendency is to redirect all emotion to anger.
I know with my own DH, in 30 + years I have seen tears twice and he was embarrassed that he broke down and I saw them. He is not quick to redirect that emotion to anger but gets very quiet and is almost overly calm and very exacting with his words. He also crosses his arms. That has always been my clue that inside he is really torn up but just won't let that show.

[LaLaw2000]

REALLY?? You don't think LE might have suggested it?

No, I don't.

[Adrienne37]

A couple of things to put out there about the funeral home and a local motel not providing a room - this is a very small community where it is likely that everyone knows everyone. Taking that into consideration, I don't find it odd that a funeral home would be involved with donations, etc. or whatever they may be doing. I would find that no different than a bank or any other type of business in a town this small helping out. As for a local motel offering a room, again, considering the size of this town, I doubt that there is even a motel there period. I would say the closest motel would probably be in Palatka and if they stayed there, they wouldn't be anywhere near their home.

[elle1919]

I missed the news conference but am looking for a link to the video of it....the links on the first page of this thread not working any longer.....any ideas?

[Brefie]

And I am still not so sure about either of those two families either!

I know....not sure where I was going with that! I have differing opinions for both those families, so for me don't prove anything!!

Geez, ever find yourself debating yourself?!?!?! :crazy::crazy:

OK, back on topic!

[PattyCake]

I still think the whole point of the presser was to ask for donations.

:eek: that is NOT a good thing for any children out there. If missing children become about having the public pay for your bills?? I missed that they asked for money. OMG. That is wrong on so many levels.

For paying for a search for your child, YES. For your bills? No, sorry.

[kidz110]

He also said it was to help Ron's family as Ron as not been back to work since this happened. He still has bills to pay and keep Rj feed and took care of.
I understand that. My family has been through something similar. Never were my thoughts on asking for donations. From what I have read, the community has been very caring and very giving already. I just worry that people will start viewing missing children as a "get rich quick" scheme.

[jaimie43]

http://www.wftv.com/video/18738968/index.html
Here is Crystal answering some questions today. She looks like she has gotten a hold of herself. This is a very telling interview. I put it up on media thread as well

Oh my...it seems Crystal doesnt believe Mistys story. Could the family be turning on MC now???

[Brefie]

No, I don't.

Interesting (truly, not sarcastically). But doesn't someone have to be officially 'in charge' of these types of funds and aren't they monitored to make sure that funds are not misappropriated??

ETA: I had no idea that the POINT was to pay bills in his absence from work.....oh my...

[babycat]

A couple of things to put out there about the funeral home and a local motel not providing a room - this is a very small community where it is likely that everyone knows everyone. Taking that into consideration, I don't find it odd that a funeral home would be involved with donations, etc. or whatever they may be doing. I would find that no different than a bank or any other type of business in a town this small helping out. As for a local motel offering a room, again, considering the size of this town, I doubt that there is even a motel there period. I would say the closest motel would probably be in Palatka and if they stayed there, they wouldn't be anywhere near their home.

You'd better believe I'd be in a tent in my front yard...I'd never be able to sleep comfortably/eat/ANYTHING knowing my baby was missing, and possibly not eating, sleeping on the ground, etc. If she wandered up, I'd want to be there. If someone dropped her off, I'd want to be there. If the police found her and brought her home, I'd want to be there. At her home. So she knew that we were NOT moving on without her:)

Anyway, I agree with your post....any local business is probably going to want to help, and that is a small town:)

[cheko1]

Ron could be 100% correct............but the problem is he has a daughter missing.
1. he left a 17 yr old in charge of her
2. she has changed her stories many times
3. We hear Ron was in a fight with someone the day before she went missing
4. Misty could of been having an affair with his uncle
5. Misty is once again taken away by LE

Ok folks look the other way / look for Haleigh but forget we have alot of bad baggage following us around & nothing we did has any bearing on the fact my daughter is missing!

[tehcloser]

MY reaction to the "funeral home"....was about to fall off the couch when they said those words. It took a couple of seconds for them to explain what he was doing there......

[SWAG1959]

There is only one motel in Satsuma. Not sure how many in Palatka. IMO - this has generated ALOT of media coverage and I'm willing to bet the few motels in the area are probably filled with media. This is generating A LOT of revenue for this low-socio economic area. Diners, restaurants, even local bars are probably filled to capacity every day.

[s1rebecca]

I still think the whole point of the presser was to ask for donations.


So whats wrong with that. This is a working man that lost his daughter. We may not agree with or live the lifestyle he lives but his daughter Hayleigh is still missing. The guy seemed genuinely broken up about his daughter being missing and after crying for 9 days he may not have a lot of tears left. They may not be able to afford to go live in a motel, and if it is a rural area there may not be a motel to live in anyway.

[Becky319]

The Man from the funeral home said they had folks calling them wanting to help, wanting to donate, wanting to get buttons and shirts. This was meant for the local news watchers, I don't think they realize how many of us from all over the world are watching this too. Dad did mention TES so I say donate to them in her name.

[babycat]

Well, I mean, I hate to say it, but how did people THINK money was coming in while he was out of work? He's not working. He wants to be with his child. Of COURSE the bills are going to pile up. If he were going to work right now, while his child were missing, people would be jumping all over him.

If YOUR child were missing, would you be at work? Would you let your other kids go hungry? Would you let your cell phone get cut off? (I know I wouldn't....I'd want to make sure Haleigh could call if she knew my cell number)

I might be wrong, but I don't think this extended family has financial resources to be able to just help Ron out, because many of THEM are probably missing work, too.

What would you have him do? Hmm?

This isn't as uncommon as people think, and it DID NOT begin with Anthony case.

[Beyond Belief]

TIMOTHY RANDOLPH LOUCAKIS
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=27045

arrested today for 948.06-PROB VIOLATION

[ksgirl78]

Well, I missed the presser but am not surprised at all to find out that Misty is back at the police department!

I still find it rather strange that Ron is standing behind Misty and saying he believes she is telling the truth. I really think he is only doing it because they both know something that we don't!

As for the donations, this is really disgusting me! You cannot pay your bills...not the publics problem. I understand that this is a very tough/rough time in their lives right now, but please...(Ok, I guess I am having no sympathy with this issue because I believe Ron and Misty are to blame here...because I probably would send a donation to a hurting/struggling family that was going through the same thing believing they were innocent...I'm not awful...just honest)

Donations to help with the search costs I can understand!

I really hope we hear something besides no comment at the 3 pm presser!

[jaimie43]

I dont think theres anything wrong with asking for donations for this family. Its not like it was made national policy or anything! The folks that dont think its right-dont have to donate but if you want to-you can.Simple as that...

[tehcloser]

TIMOTHY RANDOLPH LOUCAKIS
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=27045

arrested today for 948.06-PROB VIOLATION

Good another one off the street. But I don't think he has anything to do with Haleigh.

[PattyCake]

Well, I mean, I hate to say it, but how did people THINK money was coming in while he was out of work? He's not working. He wants to be with his child. Of COURSE the bills are going to pile up. If he were going to work right now, while his child were missing, people would be jumping all over him.

If YOUR child were missing, would you be at work? Would you let your other kids go hungry? Would you let your cell phone get cut off? (I know I wouldn't....I'd want to make sure Haleigh could call if she knew my cell number)

I might be wrong, but I don't think this extended family has financial resources to be able to just help Ron out, because many of THEM are probably missing work, too.

What would you have him do? Hmm?

This isn't as uncommon as people think, and it DID NOT begin with Anthony case.


I can agree with some of your post. I never thought he had 1 dime to put together.

So here's my BUT! (no pun intended). BUT what bothers me is that they are ASKING for money during pressers about their missing child.

Someone somewhere that can't stand their child will decide it would be a good thing to have their child go missing and make money off of it. That is why its so wrong on so many levels. Opens up a potential future abuse.

[ElizaAvalon]

TIMOTHY RANDOLPH LOUCAKIS
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=27045

arrested today for 948.06-PROB VIOLATION

YOWSA!!!

Where did you get the arrest info?

[LaLaw2000]

I know....not sure where I was going with that! I have differing opinions for both those families, so for me don't prove anything!!

Geez, ever find yourself debating yourself?!?!?! :crazy::crazy:

OK, back on topic!

:confused:

Oh, well, guess I am not understanding!

[NSC]

TIMOTHY RANDOLPH LOUCAKIS
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=27045

arrested today for 948.06-PROB VIOLATION



:eek::eek:I get the heebie jeebies looking at these predators! They must be on ALL of them! Missing, misplaced etc...

[Beyond Belief]

Good another one off the street. But I don't think he has anything to do with Haleigh.
Why not?

[raeann]

Right, and my question would be -- who is this mother? Does she have a grudge? Ron takes care of Haleigh and Ron JR. -- do you think it is possible for a revenge or vengeful type situation???

Also, it was mentioned that MC might have been babysitting Rons "other" child. Was she really babysitting this "other" child and that is how they met??? But paternity has not been established???

Does she have a grudge? I would think so! He doesn't acknowledge her child as his, so he most likely does not support her or the child. Not only did he reject her AND her child, he took HER babysitter and moved her into HIS home to care for the children that he DOES acknowledge. Might be some big time anger there!

[kellync]

TIMOTHY RANDOLPH LOUCAKIS
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=27045

arrested today for 948.06-PROB VIOLATION
Excellent sleuthing

[babycat]

I can agree with some of your post. I never thought he had 1 dime to put together.

So here's my BUT! (no pun intended). BUT what bothers me is that they are ASKING for money during pressers about their missing child.

Someone somewhere that can't stand their child will decide it would be a good thing to have their child go missing and make money off of it. That is why its so wrong on so many levels. Opens up a potential future abuse.


But THEY didn't ask for it. Someone else did. When asked what people could do to help the family, Ron specifically said "Find my daughter."

He never once asked for donations. For all we know, he might feel terrible about not having the means to do it on his own. I know I have tons of pride, and would never ask. But the hard truth is, money doesn't grow on trees. He needs to keep his house, his other child fed, his phone on, etc.

But I agree with the last part of your post very much....I mean, someone SOMEWHERE is going to see it. People can be so....(I can't even think of the word!)

[Beyond Belief]

YOWSA!!!

Where did you get the arrest info?
I have running checks on the putnam arrest journal.

[ElizaAvalon]

I don't really want to join the fray debating whether or not they should be asking for donations.

My heart breaks for all 3 families involved.

[NSC]

But THEY didn't ask for it. Someone else did. When asked what people could do to help the family, Ron specifically said "Find my daughter."

He never once asked for donations. For all we know, he might feel terrible about not having the means to do it on his own. I know I have tons of pride, and would never ask. But the hard truth is, money doesn't grow on trees. He needs to keep his house, his other child fed, his phone on, etc.

But I agree with the last part of your post very much....I mean, someone SOMEWHERE is going to see it. People can be so....(I can't even think of the word!)

Just going to chime in here...

I agree with you babycat. My family almost lost my sister in a car accident. I had to fly everyone in from out of state on the spot, people won't working etc etc... I had to pay bills for them, thank god I had the means to do that.

Now take a kidnapping 100xworse, your not working, your family is not going to work, how do you function? You coudn't!!!! And any parent could vouch for that!!!

[babycat]

Bolded by me.

Please do not take what I say and try to make it look different than it is intended, you could have quoted the whole paragraph!

Sorry, I guess in context, I still found it shocking...I did say that it was snipped.

[tehcloser]

Why not?

Because they are focusing on the family. New lead, Misty and Ron get drug back in. New tip Misty and Ron get drug back in. Misty and Ron...stories change, LE won't say they passed polygraph. Won't release their house back to em'........all roads point back to them...IMO.

[PattyCake]

But THEY didn't ask for it. Someone else did. When asked what people could do to help the family, Ron specifically said "Find my daughter."

He never once asked for donations. For all we know, he might feel terrible about not having the means to do it on his own. I know I have tons of pride, and would never ask. But the hard truth is, money doesn't grow on trees. He needs to keep his house, his other child fed, his phone on, etc.

But I agree with the last part of your post very much....I mean, someone SOMEWHERE is going to see it. People can be so....(I can't even think of the word!)

oh okay. well i missed a bit of the presser thus missing the request for monies altogether. Sounded like he was doing the asking.

It all has to be kept so separate, helping with monies for the family, pressers, media blitz on Haleigh, etc. I'm not against helping a man stay home to look for his child, just against the psycho loser out there watching TV, smoking crack thinking 'yah, there's another way to earn some dough'. :eek:

I'd like to hope that type of help could come locally from church donations, etc and doesn't need national attention. His expenses can't be that much per month????

[Indiana at Heart]

But THEY didn't ask for it. Someone else did. When asked what people could do to help the family, Ron specifically said "Find my daughter."

He never once asked for donations. For all we know, he might feel terrible about not having the means to do it on his own. I know I have tons of pride, and would never ask. But the hard truth is, money doesn't grow on trees. He needs to keep his house, his other child fed, his phone on, etc.

But I agree with the last part of your post very much....I mean, someone SOMEWHERE is going to see it. People can be so....(I can't even think of the word!)

That right someone else asked!! All he wants his "Find My Daughter"

[Brefie]

:confused:

Oh, well, guess I am not understanding!

Lol, I just meant that not getting past the parents has happened in the past and led to the parents EVENTUALLY being cleared.

After naming 2 sets of parents, I am *kind of* backtracking, because I believe one set of parents to be guilty and one set to be not guilty, which means that my examples mean nothing.

Confusing? Totally.......sorry....:(

[supergirl]

I am not upset about the donations, mostly because I have read that Ron has been out searching during his time missing work. Unlike the "other" family we all know about who were never seen doing snap.

[LaLaw2000]

:eek: that is NOT a good thing for any children out there. If missing children become about having the public pay for your bills?? I missed that they asked for money. OMG. That is wrong on so many levels.

For paying for a search for your child, YES. For your bills? No, sorry.

Grandma Neves seems to be able to speak well. I wish she had held up Haleigh's flyer during this presser. She is a dispatcher and knows descriptions of missing children are very important. When the reporter asked about Haleigh's birthmark, it would have been good to show the flyer.

I wish LE would also point out that whereas Haleighs hair could have possibly have been cut or changed colors, that birthmark would still be easily outstanding.

But yes, the bills were mentioned and the guy did say that he had the buttons and t-shirts made up for them.

[NSC]

Does she have a grudge? I would think so! He doesn't acknowledge her child as his, so he most likely does not support her or the child. Not only did he reject her AND her child, he took HER babysitter and moved her into HIS home to care for the children that he DOES acknowledge. Might be some big time anger there!


So now take this coupled into - who is this other mom? Who are HER family members? Does she have any sexual predators that could be associated with her circle? I know it seems like a stretch. But think about Mom might have creepy brother, brother knows about her ill will toward Ron etc... Kidnaps the girl as punishment - this is ALL HYPOTHETICAL and just an example of how twisted I think this situation could be!!

[ksgirl78]

Sorry, I guess in context, I still found it shocking...I did say that it was snipped.

I know you did and meant nothing personal towards you, just didn't want people that are skimming through to see the snipped portion and not the whole paragraph! ;)

[babycat]

oh okay. well i missed a bit of the presser thus missing the request for monies altogether. Sounded like he was doing the asking.

It all has to be kept so separate, helping with monies for the family, pressers, media blitz on Haleigh, etc. I'm not against helping a man stay home to look for his child, just against the psycho loser out there watching TV, smoking crack thinking 'yah, there's another way to earn some dough'. :eek:

I'd like to hope that type of help could come locally from church donations, etc and doesn't need national attention. His expenses can't be that much per month????

You know, I wonder about this...I wonder if they have, or if EVERY case should have someone in charge of actually overseeing what/when/how is paid.

Does anyone know how this works?

[Amster]

Ron thinks Misty is telling the truth?? About what??

Ron can't pay his bills?? He could if he went back to work. Or, if that's too much to ask, then have the family and friends help out. Begging for donations and selling trinkets with his daughters pic on them is becoming the norm in these cases, I guess. Because most people are compassionate and giving, I suppose the money will come rolling in.

[babycat]

I know you did and meant nothing personal towards you, just didn't want people that are skimming through to see the snipped portion and not the whole paragraph! ;)

I'm really sorry, I think I should have quoted the whole thing. I usually just snip for space. I feel I owe it to you to go back and delete my post!

So I'm gonna go do that now...

[Indiana at Heart]

His expenses can't be that much per month????


Yes it can. I lived in FL FPL bills alone could make some go broke fast. Homes are high. Let alone how much it cost to raise children these days!

[SWAG1959]

Ok - as for donations. This is a small town. Everybody probably knows everybody. If locals wanted to donate - just go out to the tent and hand RC or CS the money. That simple. IIRC there was a woman over the weekend - CS's mom is a school bus driver for another county - this woman came out and gave her money - it was in a video article that was filmed around the TES tent.

Dad works for PDM Bridge - this is a HUGE operation. Steel bridges. They have a bridge on the front page of their website that was built down here - not very far from my house. HUGE HUGE HUGE MASSIVE BRIDGE. They seem to be very reputable and a very honest organization - I would bet they have offered to pay RC - at least for a little while - maybe "use" his vacation time. I would think they (PDM) has a heart for an employee whose child has gone missing. Well, that is, unless RC wasn't so honest on his employment app and they have now found out about his "record". We simply just don't know.

If you noticed - when the Watts guy - funeral home guy - took over the mics - RC stepped back with him mom. He puts his arm around her and leaned over and was whispering to in her ear. Wonder what he was saying.

[jaimie43]

Ron thinks Misty is telling the truth?? About what??

Ron can't pay his bills?? He could if he went back to work. Or, if that's too much to ask, then have the family and friends help out. Begging for donations and selling trinkets with his daughters pic on them is becoming the norm in these cases, I guess. Because most people are compassionate and giving, I suppose the money will come rolling in.


Are you honestly suggesting this man should be working instead of looking for his daughter????? :eek:

[indicat]

I dont think theres anything wrong with asking for donations for this family. Its not like it was made national policy or anything! The folks that dont think its right-dont have to donate but if you want to-you can.Simple as that...

I agree and it makes me a little uncomfortable that people would be so up in arms about this. How would anyone support their family and pay bills in this situation, either we as a society will help or we wont. I believe we should help and I know I'm grateful I live in a place and community where I have no doubt our family's needs would be met in such a horrible situation.

[PattyCake]

You know, I wonder about this...I wonder if they have, or if EVERY case should have someone in charge of actually overseeing what/when/how is paid.

Does anyone know how this works?

I think there should always be a 3rd party when it comes to public donations. Otherwise the not so 'nice' people of the world could have motives.

I hope the local areas or even if it's just the 'state' of Florida should be more than enough to get donations from to pay bills and put food on the table. At some point though, the man will have to go back to work. As hard as that is, he has other children to help support.

[shadow of my mind]

I know in my town years ago there was a young man with Down syndrome who went missing. They did find him, sadly he had hopped a slow train and when he tried to get off miles away he ended falling and fractured his skull and died..
The local funeral home set up a fund for the family. This was before he had been found. They handled any donations through there business. In this way any money that was given was accounted for as well as any monies paid out. It makes it easier for the family to answer any questions of who and what and how much later on. The family itself didn't even no who was sending them money. If Ron is not working he is not getting paid. I would doubt that the company is just going to keep sending him a paycheck and yes expenses keep going and usually you have even more expenses to deal with. When there is a crisis you can't do the things you normally do to control your expenses. This community is accustomed to people not having a lot of backup funds to deal with crises. At least they were upfront about it and clearly stated that the money would be to help pay bills. They weren’t trying to tell the public that the money would be used to search and then used to pay bills.

[shadow2112]

If LE is still keeping the home as a crime scene, then maybe they should pay the costs of keeping everything up to date, I know I would be really upset if they kept my house that long.

[ksgirl78]

Babycat...you really don't have to do that! I appreciate it though...:blowkiss:

[Brefie]

Ron thinks Misty is telling the truth?? About what??

Ron can't pay his bills?? He could if he went back to work. Or, if that's too much to ask, then have the family and friends help out. Begging for donations and selling trinkets with his daughters pic on them is becoming the norm in these cases, I guess. Because most people are compassionate and giving, I suppose the money will come rolling in.

Of course it's too much to ask. I couldn't work if my child was missing. Not that I think it's just peachy to ask for donations, either, but I definitely do not expect him to work.

I would like to know if his employer has suspended his paycheck. If so, it would be nice to know which company to boycott.

[cajun]

Does she have a grudge? I would think so! He doesn't acknowledge her child as his, so he most likely does not support her or the child. Not only did he reject her AND her child, he took HER babysitter and moved her into HIS home to care for the children that he DOES acknowledge. Might be some big time anger there!

Maybe no paternity test has even been done to see exactly whose child it is.

[tehcloser]

If Ron and Misty turn out to be guilty of something, then everyone would think asking for donations was wrong.

If Ron and Misty turn out to have nothing to do with it then everyone would think it was right.

See where the argument starts? NOW KISS AND MAKE UP!!!!!!! lol :crazy:

[babycat]

I think there should always be a 3rd party when it comes to public donations. Otherwise the not so 'nice' people of the world could have motives.

I hope the local areas or even if it's just the 'state' of Florida should be more than enough to get donations from to pay bills and put food on the table. At some point though, the man will have to go back to work. As hard as that is, he has other children to help support.

Yes, I wonder if that would help combat the idea that you and I were talking about earlier...about copycats for money. Of course, if someone is stupid enough to do something like that, I'm sure they wouldn't consider the fact that there would be a third party to oversee the account.

Also, I'm sure ALL monies collected won't be through the account...people are just kind hearted sometimes, and are going to give what they can directly to the family...no way to oversee that:(

[babycat]

If Ron and Misty turn out to be guilty of something, then everyone would think asking for donations was wrong.

If Ron and Misty turn out to have nothing to do with it then everyone would think it was right.

See where the argument starts? NOW KISS AND MAKE UP!!!!!!! lol :crazy:

lol it's ALL relative, isn't it?

thanks for that;)

[Brefie]

If Ron and Misty turn out to be guilty of something, then everyone would think asking for donations was wrong.

If Ron and Misty turn out to have nothing to do with it then everyone would think it was right.

See where the argument starts? NOW KISS AND MAKE UP!!!!!!! lol :crazy:

Precisely! lol

[babycat]

Babycat...you really don't have to do that! I appreciate it though...:blowkiss:

Too late :crazy:



;)

[LaLaw2000]

TIMOTHY RANDOLPH LOUCAKIS
http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender/flyer.do?personId=27045

arrested today for 948.06-PROB VIOLATION

GREAT!!!! Now keep his sorry butt there!

Wonder what he did? Probably had child pornography in his house!

[kellync]

What about no gun no fight no cousin?
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=100765
His own family member confirmed, and then he denied. On television.
Whats up with that?
As sad as it may be, guilty or not, this family is gonna need money for either a funeral for this little girl, or some major lifelong counseling. The donations, I could care less, I think the more the better. Make pins, and buttons and flyers, keep busy..If Ron is found to have had any part in this, his Mom will probably be in charge of the money anyway, and in the mean time, I DONT think we will have to worry about how the money is spent, he is under a microscope.

[Brefie]

well, somebody has to pay for those $5 a pack cigs that he and Misty consume. sorry, but I'm feeling very cynical today.

Yes, you are!! lol. I am just kidding, but jeez, the last thing I would deny these people (provided they are innocent) is a smoke....good Lord!

[Becky319]

Do you think the 3 o'clock LE Presser could be announcing the arrest of Misty?

[little_miss_smart]

Well, I never really agreed with "picking apart" the A's, but I think he's avoiding the same mistake they made. They answered questions publicly about all sorts of stuff they shouldn't have talked about, and a lot of the focused was shifted to them, publicly. I'm not saying this is wrong, I'm just saying from THEIR standpoint, they would have been better to keep the focus on Caylee, and not answered nanny questions, Casey's lies, etc.

So I really feel like if he knows he has nothing to do with Haleigh missing, he's trying to keep the focus on her.

I don't see anything wrong with it. He's doing what people begged the A's to do all along: shut up and focus on your (grand)daughter.

ITA

If LE wants to dig into his personal life(which I'm sure they will) it's for good cause and they may feel there is need to do this. Just because he has a criminal record means nothing and probably has nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

And the A's, well, what can you say? They are a different kettle of fish, courting the media, ignoring the truth which was staring them in the face, defending Casey........... should I go on? :crazy:

[jaimie43]

If Ron and Misty turn out to be guilty of something, then everyone would think asking for donations was wrong.

If Ron and Misty turn out to have nothing to do with it then everyone would think it was right.

See where the argument starts? NOW KISS AND MAKE UP!!!!!!! lol :crazy:

What if Ron is innocent and Misty is not? What then???? A NEW argument!!! LOL!!! *This post was purely for entertainment purposes only*

[Brefie]

Do you think the 3 o'clock LE Presser could be announcing the arrest of Misty?

Wha....? There's another one.....wow. Thanks for the info!

[Brefie]

What if Ron is innocent and Misty is not? What then???? A NEW argument!!! LOL!!! *This post was purely for entertainment purposes only*

SO HELP ME, I am gonna start dishing out spankings!!! :blowkiss:

[Beyond Belief]

Because they are focusing on the family. New lead, Misty and Ron get drug back in. New tip Misty and Ron get drug back in. Misty and Ron...stories change, LE won't say they passed polygraph. Won't release their house back to em'........all roads point back to them...IMO.
Loucakis did something to be hauled into jail. Would be kind of stupid to do anything violating his probation with all the police searching his neighborhood for a missing child.

[kellync]

Do you think the 3 o'clock LE Presser could be announcing the arrest of Misty?
I think the 3 o clock presser will be a snoozefest.

[tehcloser]

What if Ron is innocent and Misty is not? What then???? A NEW argument!!! LOL!!! *This post was purely for entertainment purposes only*

:slap: :blowkiss:

[Brefie]

I think the 3 o clock presser will be a snoozefest.

Surely they must have something to warrant 2 pressers only hours apart??

[jaimie43]

Surely they must have something to warrant 2 pressers only hours apart??


I hope its a WARRANT for someones arrest...

[Brefie]

Looking for his daughter?? When? Where? I saw him on a horse one time with Tim Miller.......LE says there are no searches right now. Ron, as far as we have seen, is sitting in a tent watching TV. Except for the times he goes with the lead detective to answer more questions.

You are surely not suggesting he go to work?

[impatientredhead]

What about no gun no fight no cousin?
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=100765
His own family member confirmed, and then he denied. On television.
Whats up with that?
As sad as it may be, guilty or not, this family is gonna need money for either a funeral for this little girl, or some major lifelong counseling. The donations, I could care less, I think the more the better. Make pins, and buttons and flyers, keep busy..If Ron is found to have had any part in this, his Mom will probably be in charge of the money anyway, and in the mean time, I DONT think we will have to worry about how the money is spent, he is under a microscope.

I think people do stupid things with their money everyday and if someone has reason to believe their donated dollars will not be spent the way they intended them to be they shouldn't donate. If someone wants to pay their bills, order them pizza, buy their cigerettes, it really doesn't effect me in the least. They can set their money on fire for all I care. Personal choice and all that.

[tehcloser]

Loucakis did something to be hauled into jail. Would be kind of stupid to do anything violating his probation with all the police searching his neighborhood for a missing child.

Stoopid? He's a RSO. It could have been anything, I just do not think it was a so. But I respect that you do. :blowkiss:

[Brefie]

I hope its a WARRANT for someones arrest...

Ooooh, pun intended...very clever!!! lol:clap:

[kellync]

Surely they must have something to warrant 2 pressers only hours apart??
Yeah, Ron "I dont do media anymore" Cummings wanted to do one without LE's involvement. He seems a lil bitter that he is being kept in the dark. "Ask the detectives, ask the detectives, ask the detectives" He must have said that 20 times...

[impatientredhead]

You are surely not suggesting he go to work?

He is a crane operator, not exactly a low risk job. I would not want my husband's life in the hands of a very distracted crane operator if he worked in the same plant. There is no way they should allow him back to work.

There is also no reason he shouldn't still be getting a check. It has only been a couple of weeks. Sick time, vacation time, and family emergency leave should more than cover a couple of weeks.

[tehcloser]

The 3pm presser is LE...they have one everyday at that time. But YES I hope we get some new infooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[LaLaw2000]

Because they are focusing on the family. New lead, Misty and Ron get drug back in. New tip Misty and Ron get drug back in. Misty and Ron...stories change, LE won't say they passed polygraph. Won't release their house back to em'........all roads point back to them...IMO.

This is just my opinion too, tehcloser. LE cannot get past them..........

I am suspicious of Ronald and Misty and wouldn't send one dime to help a person that I suspect knows exactly what happened to Haleigh!

Donations for TES - the professional searchers, yes. A donation for a reward for finding Haleigh, yes. Anything else at this point - an emphatic no.

[DotsEyes]

I didn't see the press conference but I have to chime in here. Ron is right, as long as he is telling LE everything, his family issues are none of our business and public outing of the issues will not help to find Haleigh. It warms my heart that his community is donating money to help his family pay bills and support themselves while they search for Haleigh. I am sure many of us know what it is like to live paycheck to paycheck and Ron can not return to work now. Would you if your child were missing? Me either.

Pray that the kidnapper has a change of heart and drops Haleigh off at a hospital, Walgreen's, Wal-Mart - whatever. Keep thinking about Elizabeth Smart and how she was found after 9 months. Miracles happen everyday. Pray for one here.

[PattyCake]

He is a crane operator, not exactly a low risk job. I would not want my husband's life in the hands of a very distracted crane operator if he worked in the same plant. There is no way they should allow him back to work.

There is also no reason he shouldn't still be getting a check. It has only been a couple of weeks. Sick time, vacation time, and family emergency leave should more than cover a couple of weeks.

true! He should still have a check.

Still everyone - donations from churches in the counties near them should be more than enough to support them. May not pay for any child support for his other children but enough for them to keep their lights on and food each day.
No need to go on a national level & use the media to ask for money. my2cents


PS: as a Canadian new to living in the USA, I'm not sure how it works here but - wouldn't he have benefits at work to help him while he's gone? Temporary disability, etc? I think they could do something like that so he could still get some money?

[Brefie]

Yeah, Ron "I dont do media anymore" Cummings wanted to do one without LE's involvement. He seems a lil bitter that he is being kept in the dark. "Ask the detectives, ask the detectives, ask the detectives" He must have said that 20 times...

Yeah, he's not very media savvy, that's for sure. Actually he comes across as not that bright. He first thanked the media, then seemed to resent them more with every question. Anyone who had been briefed (which I assumed he was on some level) would have been more prepared and not get angry and basically be a little more articulate about what he thought was relevant to finding Haleigh.

[ksgirl78]

I really want the afternoon presser from LE to give us some details but I have a feeling we are going to hear little to nothing!

Now, this is just me but...

If my husband and I were going through this (and even if we weren't married, just boyfriend and girlfriend) and he were taken to the police department for more questioning, I would be there as well.

If Ron "believes Misty is telling the truth" and is standing beside her why would he not go down to the police department with her, even if it was just support and he wouldn't be allowed in the room during the interrogation?

[Indiana at Heart]

SO HELP ME, I am gonna start dishing out spankings!!! :blowkiss:

My first smile today. LOL Thanks

[Brefie]

My first smile today. LOL Thanks

You are welcome :D It is my pleasure!

[Indigo]

Because they are focusing on the family. New lead, Misty and Ron get drug back in. New tip Misty and Ron get drug back in. Misty and Ron...stories change, LE won't say they passed polygraph. Won't release their house back to em'........all roads point back to them...IMO.

Agree, tehcloser. That is the way this keeps playing out. LE will not "help" the family out by saying they passed their LDs. The story changes have been fast and furious and it's strange that everyone (Ron and family) just keeps accepting and retelling these story changes like they are normal.

The pieces are not fitting together with normal human nature and that usually means something is wrong with the picture. JMO.

[kikid]

This is just my opinion too, tehcloser. LE cannot get past them..........

I am suspicious of Ronald and Misty and wouldn't send one dime to help a person that I suspect knows exactly what happened to Haleigh!

Donations for TES - the professional searchers, yes. A donation for a reward for finding Haleigh, yes. Anything else at this point - an emphatic no.

i would give money for Haleigh's Mom & her family, and to make sure JR is fed & clothed.... so it isn't just about Ron really. Unfortunately, I feel Ron & Misty are responsible for Haleigh's disappearance so I wouldn't feel like donating to a fund that didn't help Mom out too.

[Brefie]

I really want the afternoon presser from LE to give us some details but I have a feeling we are going to hear little to nothing!

Now, this is just me but...

If my husband and I were going through this (and even if we weren't married, just boyfriend and girlfriend) and he were taken to the police department for more questioning, I would be there as well.

If Ron "believes Misty is telling the truth" and is standing beside her why would he not go down to the police department with her, even if it was just support and he wouldn't be allowed in the room during the interrogation?

I thought she was driven off right as the presser started? That was my impression, and if true, would explain why he couldn't go there and then.

[PattyCake]

I have a sad question....

WHY is the reward for her return so low??? Caylee's was very high. WHY is it so very different for different children?

[tehcloser]

HLN just said they are questioning Ron again too. (After his presser.)

[LaLaw2000]

Ron thinks Misty is telling the truth?? About what??

Ron can't pay his bills?? He could if he went back to work. Or, if that's too much to ask, then have the family and friends help out. Begging for donations and selling trinkets with his daughters pic on them is becoming the norm in these cases, I guess. Because most people are compassionate and giving, I suppose the money will come rolling in.


At this point I feel Ronald could go back to work. Guys need to stay busy. It just might help him to get through the day better. He could leave if there was any word of Haleigh.

If money does come rolling in, there needs to be an independent controller of that money, IMO, and not the family.

[supergirl]

Kinda O/T but when our family had a tragic unexpected death a few years ago, just about every family members fellow employees took up donations and gave them to us. It was shocking and we sat there stunned. My own sister sent me a check (it was on DH's side). I was like "What's this for?" Her answer, she didn't know what else to do and wanted to do something. None of us had thought about paying bills in the time we waited, thoughts of anything except our loss didn't exist then. It was a shock to be reminded that life was going on around us, even if it seemed stopped for us. But, I do have to say, all the unexpected money was donated to the Families of Fallen Heroes in or loved ones name. Seemed kinda sick to use it for anything else.

[KOOL LOOK]

I don't have the words to say, that even I would approve of to express how very disappointed I am at catching up on a few threads here today as Haleigh's case has been given it's own forum.

I appreciate the posters who have mercy and wisdom first and foremost concerning Haleigh and her family.

"Money answereth all things", we must help one another. Ron is the sole provider of his family. That provider has been literally slammed off his payroll job by a family crisis that is the heart and terror of every loving parent in all cultures knowing no divides of color, race, sex, age or nationality.

I encourage those that are led to give, your reward shall be great. We don't know who or how many are guilty yet, a grieving Father must have a place to lay his head. Shame!

The comments about not having decent large clear enough photos of Haleigh to view for our discretion, if I had the skills I would photoshop, mix and enlarge, til I came up with an ideal photo for the public to use to try to help locate Haleigh. Then I would forward it to LE and offer it as my way of helping in this case, maybe someone with those skills who claims I wish I could help, can see their way through and be a help to this family and LE. I've seen so many photo shopped comical pranks, jabs, humourous etc... photos done all across the internet, maybe someone here will put that skill to work to help.

I can't even get the facts of the pressor, for the link wouldn't play for me, and I'm still stuck not knowing, only that the Family mentioined donations.

[supergirl]

I have a sad question....

WHY is the reward for her return so low??? Caylee's was very high. WHY is it so very different for different children?

It is sad, isn't it. Maybe because the community itself is not a high income one, people don't have it to spare? Not alot of big business there to put up money?

[Brefie]

I have a sad question....

WHY is the reward for her return so low??? Caylee's was very high. WHY is it so very different for different children?

Was Caylee's this high this quickly? I was out of the country when they Caylee story broke, so I am very sketchy about early details.

Also, I think there are other very unfair reasons such as how the ones pleading for the return come across. I honestly think that the more articulate and groomed they seem, the more willing folks are to dig deep. And I loathe to think that.

[ksgirl78]

I thought she was driven off right as the presser started? That was my impression, and if true, would explain why he couldn't go there and then.

HLN just said they are questioning Ron again too. (After his presser.)

Well, I suppose that might change things of why he didn't go with Misty right away...BUT...why was it so important that Misty had to go right then instead of being there for the presser with Ron? HMMM...

So many questions...so little answers!

[indicat]

I don't have the words to say, that even I would approve of to express how very disappointed I am at catching up on a few threads here today as Haleigh's case has been given it's own forum.

I appreciate the posters who have mercy and wisdom first and foremost concerning Haleigh and her family.

"Money answereth all things", we must help one another. Ron is the sole provider of his family. That provider has been literally slammed off his payroll job by a family crisis that is the heart and terror of every loving parent in all cultures knowing no divides of color, race, sex, age or nationality.

I encourage those that are led to give, your reward shall be great. We don't know who or how many are guilty yet, a grieving Father must have a place to lay his head. Shame!

The comments about not having decent large clear enough photos of Haleigh to view for our discretion, if I had the skills I would photoshop, mix and enlarge, til I came up with an ideal photo for the public to use to try to help locate Haleigh. Then I would forward it to LE and offer it as my way of helping in this case, maybe someone with those skills who claims I wish I could help, can see their way through and be a help to this family and LE. I've seen so many photo shopped comical pranks, jabs, humourous etc... photos done all across the internet, maybe someone here will put that skill to work to help.

I can't even get the facts of the pressor, for the link wouldn't play for me, and I'm still stuck not knowing, only that the Family mentioined donations.

:clap::clap: Thank you for this post, it's what my heart feels also.

[Brefie]

Well, I suppose that might change things of why he didn't go with Misty right away...BUT...why was it so important that Misty had to go right then instead of being there for the presser with Ron? HMMM...

So many questions...so little answers!

GREAT question! I hope something VERY useful to finding her safe will come of this!

[little_miss_smart]

At this point I feel Ronald could go back to work. Guys need to stay busy. It just might help him to get through the day better. He could leave if there was any word of Haleigh.

If money does come rolling in, there needs to be an independent controller of that money, IMO, and not the family.

God forbid of anything happened like this to my family but if it did, my OH would not be in a fit state to go to work, not a chance! He drags himself into work when he is really ill but he wouldn't be able to function if one of our kids were missing. I certainly wouldn't expect it.

I'm really surprised Rons work will not meet his wage in this situation :confused:

[Dallas]

Though it is certainly fair for us to analyze the family's past in these situations, it does not serve the family to go into that detail at a press conference. IMO. He is trying to accomplish two things with his press conference, and they are both focused on finding his daughter. One, he is trying to keep her picture and her story in the public eye, so they will keep looking for her or will recall something that will help. Two, he needs donations and volunteers to keep the search going, and the best way to raise funds as to get the message to as many people. Most families would not be able to pull these types of searches together and keep them going, without financial support.

Obviously, he needs to be open with LE about all of this stuff, so they have all the information they need to work from, but it can sometimes be a distraction to the public, when they see too many bad things about the family. Many people will make the assumption that she is already gone and may no longer look for her, or look at anyone else that might be involved.

[Beyond Belief]

Fox is saying theres some news about Haleigh. I wonder if its something we don't know yet.:rolleyes:

[PinkyPoo]

Fox is saying theres some news about Haleigh. I wonder if its something we don't know yet.:rolleyes:


You just never know about those teasers!

[supergirl]

I don't have the words to say, that even I would approve of to express how very disappointed I am at catching up on a few threads here today as Haleigh's case has been given it's own forum.

I appreciate the posters who have mercy and wisdom first and foremost concerning Haleigh and her family.

"Money answereth all things", we must help one another. Ron is the sole provider of his family. That provider has been literally slammed off his payroll job by a family crisis that is the heart and terror of every loving parent in all cultures knowing no divides of color, race, sex, age or nationality.

I encourage those that are led to give, your reward shall be great. We don't know who or how many are guilty yet, a grieving Father must have a place to lay his head. Shame!

The comments about not having decent large clear enough photos of Haleigh to view for our discretion, if I had the skills I would photoshop, mix and enlarge, til I came up with an ideal photo for the public to use to try to help locate Haleigh. Then I would forward it to LE and offer it as my way of helping in this case, maybe someone with those skills who claims I wish I could help, can see their way through and be a help to this family and LE. I've seen so many photo shopped comical pranks, jabs, humourous etc... photos done all across the internet, maybe someone here will put that skill to work to help.

I can't even get the facts of the pressor, for the link wouldn't play for me, and I'm still stuck not knowing, only that the Family mentioined donations.

Kool Look, as always, you take the high road! You are all heart. Hope you are feeling better!:blowkiss:

[Amster]

God forbid of anything happened like this to my family but if it did, my OH would not be in a fit state to go to work, not a chance! He drags himself into work when he is really ill but he wouldn't be able to function if one of our kids were missing. I certainly wouldn't expect it.

I'm really surprised Rons work will not meet his wage in this situation :confused:

Actually, we don't know that they aren't.

[impatientredhead]

I have a sad question....

WHY is the reward for her return so low??? Caylee's was very high. WHY is it so very different for different children?

I don't really know, and many of the missing kids barely get a headline let alone a reward.

The only thing I can think of that makes any sense to me is people are drawn to what they can identify with, and on the *surface* the Anthony's in the beginning looked a lot like "us" to use the term loosely.

Middle class family, relatively nice home but nothing over the top, two adult children, a beautiful grandchild. On the surface Casey probably looks a lot like many middle class people's college age daughter.

Not as many people are looking at Ron and Misti and saying that could be us. She so reminds me of my daughter. That could be son on TV. Easier to disconnect from them. As it became easier to disconnect from the Anthony's.

[Brefie]

Actually, we don't know that they aren't.

I sure hope that they are.

[Brefie]

I don't really know, and many of the missing kids barely get a headline let alone a reward.

The only thing I can think of that makes any sense to me is people are drawn to what they can identify with, and on the *surface* the Anthony's in the beginning looked a lot like "us" to use the term loosely.

Middle class family, relatively nice home but nothing over the top, two adult children, a beautiful grandchild. On the surface Casey probably looks a lot like many middle class people's college age daughter.

Not as many people are looking at Ron and Misti and saying that could be us. She so reminds me of my daughter. That could be son on TV. Easier to disconnect from them. As it became easier to disconnect from the Anthony's.


You put it so much better than I did.

[Amster]

What searches are the family required to pay for?

[Brefie]

What searches are the family required to pay for?

None that I know of....did you read something that said they have to pay???

[little_miss_smart]

Actually, we don't know that they aren't.

Thanks, I wasn't sure. Just catching up.

[Amster]

I sure hope that they are.

Me too! And, hopefully, his landlord is waiving rent for a while.

[LaLaw2000]

Maybe no paternity test has even been done to see exactly whose child it is.

Then I wonder how the mother is supporting this baby. She could not get any form of public asssitance if she did not name the father, or if a paternity test was not in the works. JMO

[Amster]

None that I know of....did you read something that said they have to pay???

Maybe I misunderstood....I thought the donations were to help with the search.

[not_my_kids]

At least the reward for Haleigh did go up a little. $6000 was laughable. Considering some of the players, anyone with info might be endangering their lives if they give it. I don't know many people, even homeless, that would accept $6000 as a trade for their safety or life. So $16,000 is a little better.
Not enough, but I don't think that a million is enough as an exchange for info that could save someone's life, especially a childs.

[Beyond Belief]

I lost the darn link for the live feed again, has someone started a new link for that?

[little_miss_smart]

PattyG

If you look at Madeleine McCann and Caylee Anthony the rewards were big, in Madeleine's case it was £1 million. I think some children grab attention while others don't, very sad but true. But it seems that it's middle class families who get the huge rewards, maybe I'm wrong though.

[jaimie43]

I don't have the words to say, that even I would approve of to express how very disappointed I am at catching up on a few threads here today as Haleigh's case has been given it's own forum.

I appreciate the posters who have mercy and wisdom first and foremost concerning Haleigh and her family.

"Money answereth all things", we must help one another. Ron is the sole provider of his family. That provider has been literally slammed off his payroll job by a family crisis that is the heart and terror of every loving parent in all cultures knowing no divides of color, race, sex, age or nationality.

I encourage those that are led to give, your reward shall be great. We don't know who or how many are guilty yet, a grieving Father must have a place to lay his head. Shame!

The comments about not having decent large clear enough photos of Haleigh to view for our discretion, if I had the skills I would photoshop, mix and enlarge, til I came up with an ideal photo for the public to use to try to help locate Haleigh. Then I would forward it to LE and offer it as my way of helping in this case, maybe someone with those skills who claims I wish I could help, can see their way through and be a help to this family and LE. I've seen so many photo shopped comical pranks, jabs, humourous etc... photos done all across the internet, maybe someone here will put that skill to work to help.

I can't even get the facts of the pressor, for the link wouldn't play for me, and I'm still stuck not knowing, only that the Family mentioined donations.

♥♥♥Lovely Post♥♥♥:blowkiss:

[cajun]

Then I wonder how the mother is supporting this baby. She could not get any form of public asssitance if she did not name the father, or if a paternity test was not in the works. JMO

If she is on state aid, you are right they do go after the father. If Misty was babysitting maybe she had a job.

[Indiana at Heart]

Someone has been arrested near her home

[babycat]

CNN reporting an arrest made near Cummings home?!

[kellync]

CNN someone has been arrested near Cummings home, it will be on CNN. Not saying if they are a suspect. Probably the RSO we knew about earlier....

[tehcloser]

It's the so guy

[kellync]

News conference will be on CNN ,that is

[tehcloser]

Calm down everyone!!!!! lol

[bogeygal]

HLN News on now. Saying someone in neighborhood arrested, not explaining charges though. After commerical. We'll see..

[nursebeeme]

guys....is LE still doing a presser at 3 today? tia

[mydailyopinions]

So Misty is with LE now?
What is it going to take to crack this chick? I still believe with everything in me that she did something to Haleigh.
If not, LE would have cleared them a long time ago!

[tehcloser]

guys....is LE still doing a presser at 3 today? tia

Supposed to.

[babycat]

It's the so guy


good call....i bet you're right

[tehcloser]

So Misty is with LE now?
What is it going to take to crack this chick? I still believe with everything in me that she did something to Haleigh.
If not, LE would have cleared them a long time ago!

According to HLN...they both are with LE.

[nursebeeme]

Supposed to.thanks teh :blowkiss: There is no banner up yet...

[ksgirl78]

CNN reporting an arrest made near Cummings home?!

Oh mercy!!!! I'm covered in chicken skin now!

[tehcloser]

HLN said they would have it...but they always cut off early.

[mydailyopinions]

According to HLN...they both are with LE.

Thanks Teh! Between the new documents in the other case, a horrible cold, and the horrific weather here yesterday, I am so behind on it all!

[tehcloser]

The arrest is probably the SO....it may not be connected!!!!! Let's not start the running of the bulls!....lol

[mydailyopinions]

CNN someone has been arrested near Cummings home, it will be on CNN. Not saying if they are a suspect. Probably the RSO we knew about earlier....

I looked at that man's picture..I just don't see how he could come in so quietly and grab Haleigh. I just don't see it..
Where did they pick up Misty? Near the home?

[tehcloser]

HLN saying they do not know if the arrest is related.....

[babycat]

Oh mercy!!!! I'm covered in chicken skin now!


lol when I first read this I thought it meant you were cooking

hahahahahah

duh

[Brefie]

Maybe I misunderstood....I thought the donations were to help with the search.

OH! Thanks for clarifying. Perhaps they want to assist in some way?

[ksgirl78]

The arrest is probably the SO....it may not be connected!!!!! Let's not start the running of the bulls!....lol

I hate when they tease us like that! You are probably right!!!

[tehcloser]

I looked at that man's picture..I just don't see how he could come in so quietly and grab Haleigh. I just don't see it..
Where did they pick up Misty? Near the home?


OOOOOOO...That's would be toooo good to be true. :eek:

[kellync]

I looked at that man's picture..I just don't see how he could come in so quietly and grab Haleigh. I just don't see it..
Where did they pick up Misty? Near the home?
I dont see it either. But what do I know

[babycat]

I don't know if you guys saw the thread I started about someone reporting spotting Haleigh with a man in TN with Florida plates, but here it is in case you missed it

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80018

[cynsational]

PRESSER STARTING
http://www.wftv.com/video/18738968/index.html

[KOOL LOOK]

Thank you Darlings. I got to go be Mama, it's a privledge, most of the time, hehehe been very sick, Son starts baseball, what a joy.

If anyone gets details of the pressors, please post as your able, normally all links open and run for me, but a couple of tv stations and my computer don't get along. I'll be back to partcipate and hopefully this new conference will gain us more insight. I feel we will have resolve soon, one way or the other. Peace and strength to Haliegh's family and my ws family.
I feel it in my bones, the guilty POI will not get away with taking Haleigh from her home.

[tehcloser]

I hate when they tease us like that! You are probably right!!!

Cheeky little monkeys they are!!!!!!!:crazy: