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sillygilly
02-20-2009, 09:36 PM
Just curious...I was almost abducted as a child on 2 occasions and it haunts me to this day, nc license plate #EH996 from the '70's and wondered if he got other kids that didn't run.:mad: I've even thought about having a gps chip put in my daughter, if that was possible. Can't believe how many people and children just get lost and how much heartbreak there is out there.

future criminologist
02-22-2009, 12:32 AM
wow. I can sort of relate. my sister was almost abducted when she was 12. she didn't tell anyone for years. I don't know if that's the reason that I have this unusual hobby, or if it's just that it's a puzzle that, once solved, actually impacts a lot of lives.

JaneInOz
02-22-2009, 12:58 AM
Just curious...I was almost abducted as a child on 2 occasions and it haunts me to this day, nc license plate #EH996 from the '70's and wondered if he got other kids that didn't run.:mad: I've even thought about having a gps chip put in my daughter, if that was possible. Can't believe how many people and children just get lost and how much heartbreak there is out there.

I am also overwhelmed at how many children and adults are just missing / poof / vanished / gone forever

Danaya
02-22-2009, 01:07 AM
I believe I was nearly abducted, too. When I was a little girl I was playing with my older brother and his friends on our bikes. We were playing hide and seek and I was about seven blocks from home and couldn't find them, I noticed an old green cadillac following me. I started swerving down the side streets and it kept following me, I even drove up a drive way so I could turn around and the car did the same thing. Thank God I saw an adult on a walk so I went up to her and the car drove away! I told my Mom and she said she made a police report but I STILL had to walk the seven or eight blocks BY MYSELF to school every morning and evening. :mad:

I guess it's just a quirky interest, I find it fascinating but can't do it too often because I tend to get scared. Which is why I don't like it when people put post mortem pictures without a warning. I get freaked out so I tend to start every few months. Now that I'm trying to find my John Doe I've been on WS a lot more. I didn't know other people had this interest. I have spent literaly, four or five hours on doenetwork and websleuths alone... better log off! :angel:

JaneInOz
02-22-2009, 01:10 AM
I believe I was nearly abducted, too. When I was a little girl I was playing with my older brother and his friends on our bikes. We were playing hide and seek and I was about seven blocks from home and couldn't find them, I noticed an old green cadillac following me. I started swerving down the side streets and it kept following me, I even drove up a drive way so I could turn around and the car did the same thing. Thank God I saw an adult on a walk so I went up to her and the car drove away! I told my Mom and she said she made a police report but I STILL had to walk the seven or eight blocks BY MYSELF to school every morning and evening. :mad:

I guess it's just a quirky interest, I find it fascinating but can't do it too often because I tend to get scared. Which is why I don't like it when people put post mortem pictures without a warning. I get freaked out so I tend to start every few months. Now that I'm trying to find my John Doe I've been on WS a lot more. I didn't know other people had this interest. I have spent literaly, four or five hours on doenetwork and websleuths alone... better log off! :angel:



Danaya I also get scared sometimes, it puts my brain into hyper drive and hyper vigilance

What is it about GREEN CARS ? A girl at my daughters school was Approached and NEARLY abducted in the afternoon one day walking from her friends house to her house by a Person in a GREEN CAR !

Fairy1
02-22-2009, 01:38 AM
I believe I was nearly abducted, too. When I was a little girl I was playing with my older brother and his friends on our bikes. We were playing hide and seek and I was about seven blocks from home and couldn't find them, I noticed an old green cadillac following me. I started swerving down the side streets and it kept following me, I even drove up a drive way so I could turn around and the car did the same thing. Thank God I saw an adult on a walk so I went up to her and the car drove away! I told my Mom and she said she made a police report but I STILL had to walk the seven or eight blocks BY MYSELF to school every morning and evening. :mad:

I guess it's just a quirky interest, I find it fascinating but can't do it too often because I tend to get scared. Which is why I don't like it when people put post mortem pictures without a warning. I get freaked out so I tend to start every few months. Now that I'm trying to find my John Doe I've been on WS a lot more. I didn't know other people had this interest. I have spent literaly, four or five hours on doenetwork and websleuths alone... better log off! :angel:

I see vulnerable kids walking to and from school EVERY DAY. Makes me so crazy! I'm sorry, but if you can't personally take to or pick up your babies from school, find someone who can!!! It's really not that difficult to ask for help when your children's well-being is at stake. I sometimes wish everyone had to spend some time on WS just to have an idea of what kind of evil is out there, everywhere, everyday.

JaneInOz
02-22-2009, 03:29 AM
I see vulnerable kids walking to and from school EVERY DAY. Makes me so crazy! I'm sorry, but if you can't personally take to or pick up your babies from school, find someone who can!!! It's really not that difficult to ask for help when your children's well-being is at stake. I sometimes wish everyone had to spend some time on WS just to have an idea of what kind of evil is out there, everywhere, everyday.

I totally agree - Pre schoolers being put on buses !

ITs Wrong.

If you cant look after your children then dont bother having them - and if you work , make it work so that you arre there for them before and after school or a grandparent or Aunt is.

The people I see offend the most is people who want *ME* time

I havent had ME time for nearly 6 years !

I had it for 35 years prior to that and I will have it again.

sillygilly
02-22-2009, 08:22 AM
Interesting, gang. Thanks for chiming in!

Danaya
02-22-2009, 07:26 PM
I totally agree - Pre schoolers being put on buses !

ITs Wrong.

If you cant look after your children then dont bother having them - and if you work , make it work so that you arre there for them before and after school or a grandparent or Aunt is.

The people I see offend the most is people who want *ME* time

I havent had ME time for nearly 6 years !

I had it for 35 years prior to that and I will have it again.

Lol, and now that I have a one year old my Mom is always like "You're so much like me when I was parenting!" I think she conveniently forgets a lot of stuff. :waitasec: I hated walking those blocks every day to school escpecially since our Winters used to get to the thirty below point pretty much everyday. I can't believe she let me keep walking after that happened. I was probably nine years old and I remember rushing as fast as I could home on my little mountain bike, just terrified and looking out for that green car... :snooty:

future criminologist
02-22-2009, 09:00 PM
I guess it's just a quirky interest, I find it fascinating but can't do it too often because I tend to get scared. Which is why I don't like it when people put post mortem pictures without a warning. I get freaked out so I tend to start every few months. Now that I'm trying to find my John Doe I've been on WS a lot more. I didn't know other people had this interest. I have spent literaly, four or five hours on doenetwork and websleuths alone... better log off! :angel:

I also used to get scared of Doe reconstruction pics. that, and "wanted" sketches. I guess the more I looked at them, the more desensitized I got to it. It kind of scares me now that maybe I'm TOO desensitized, because I can look at all these UID descriptions and they barely faze me as shocking anymore, I'm just like ok, what are vitals, what's something I can search on here? I guess I am just preparing myself for the inevitability of looking at actual bloody or decomposing post-mortem photos when I go back to school.

Danaya
02-23-2009, 12:37 AM
I guess I am just preparing myself for the inevitability of looking at actual bloody or decomposing post-mortem photos when I go back to school.


Oooh interesting!

Julessleuther
02-23-2009, 02:13 AM
Me too! I see small children playing outside at dusk, children walking by themselves, we even had two children come to our house to sell products after dark one night, with no parents around. It makes me crazy. I actually scolded those kids and made them go home, with me walking them, so I knew they got home ok. I wanted to slap the mother.

I was almost abducted as a child too, but I only vaguely remember it. My mom tells me that we were in a Grants store (the Target of the old days, lol) and she turned away from me for a couple of minutes, thinking I was right next to her. When she turned around and could not find me, she started to move down the aisles, and she found me walking OUT of the store with a woman. My mother ran up screaming, and the woman let go of my hand and ran out of the store. They called the police, blah blah blad, but did not catch the woman. I am hyper vigilant with my children because of what I see on WS everyday.
I see vulnerable kids walking to and from school EVERY DAY. Makes me so crazy! I'm sorry, but if you can't personally take to or pick up your babies from school, find someone who can!!! It's really not that difficult to ask for help when your children's well-being is at stake. I sometimes wish everyone had to spend some time on WS just to have an idea of what kind of evil is out there, everywhere, everyday.

tatertot
02-23-2009, 08:26 AM
When I was in about fourth grade I was pulling a wagon full of stuffed animals and dolls through my neighborhood, taking them on a walk. (A little childish for that age, but I was a late bloomer, maturation-wise.) A van pulled up and one of the two men inside hopped out, opened the back door and showed me a large stuffed dog, asking if I wanted it. I looked back at the wagon and saw there was no room to carry another animal so I told them where I lived and asked if they could leave it on the porch.

Of course I got home and asked my mom if they'd dropped off the dog, and seconds later my dad was calling the police. I was so mad they hadn't left the dog that it shocked me to hear my dad asking the police if they'd had other child luring attempts and only then did it hit me that I'd been talking to strangers. To this day I think my guardian angel made sure that wagon was full of toys so I'd turn down their offer.

Oddly enough, that experience didn't leave me scared, just more cautious. For years I thought my dad might have been wrong and the guys just wanted to give away a toy they no longer wanted, but now I think otherwise. They were up to something, but as a kid I couldn't bring myself to believe people could really be that bad.

monkalup
02-23-2009, 08:47 AM
They were up to something, but as a kid I couldn't bring myself to believe people could really be that bad.

I think this is how many children are lured.The perps use the goodwill and gullibility of children against them. You were so lucky, tater!

Danaya
02-23-2009, 08:07 PM
When she turned around and could not find me, she started to move down the aisles, and she found me walking OUT of the store with a woman. My mother ran up screaming, and the woman let go of my hand and ran out of the store. They called the police, blah blah blad, but did not catch the woman. I am hyper vigilant with my children because of what I see on WS everyday.

I sort of wonder why women abduct children, if it's a agressive man with a submissive women or if the women just wants a child of her own.

Autumndreams
05-28-2009, 12:17 AM
I just wanted to add that I came very close to being a victim of a serial killer and didn't know it.
When I was 17yrs old I was at a friends house spending the night and my BF live just a block down the road on the corner. It was about 1am or so when i called him and asked him if he would come pick me up he said sure so I went outside and and walked to the corner and stood just off the sidewalk and watch for him. Just then a car pulled up and a much much older man asked if i need a ride? I look down the street an saw my BF getting in his car and pulling out... I told the driver of the car no thanks and pointed down the street and said my BF is on his way. He pointed at my BF's car and said that's your BF? I said yes and he got a funny look on his face a took off fast. That is when I thought to myself damn he could have been a kidnapper.
Anyways years down the road a local serial killer was arrested and they showed his picture on the news and I was like OMG!!! That is the man that asked me if I needed a ride!! That man was Arthur Shawcross !

teonspaleprincess
05-28-2009, 11:08 AM
Wow, so many of us have similar stories. I to was almost kidnapped, but I was 23. I had two babies, worked full time and had just started college. I didn't have a car, so I had to walk from work to school, which was about 4 miles. One day I was so exhausted that when a guy that I recognized as a regular customer at my job offered me a ride, I accepted. It was a straight shot to where I was going and when he turned off going toward a different town I freaked out and told him to stop and let me out, but he wouldn't. He kept telling me that I owed him for the ride. I jumped out when he slowed to make another turn and ran to the nearest house and they let me use the phone. I was bruised and sore for a few days and I got cursed out by my mom and my boyfriend. I learned my lesson though.

Mr. E
05-28-2009, 01:07 PM
I just wanted to add that I came very close to being a victim of a serial killer and didn't know it.
When I was 17yrs old I was at a friends house spending the night and my BF live just a block down the road on the corner. It was about 1am or so when i called him and asked him if he would come pick me up he said sure so I went outside and and walked to the corner and stood just off the sidewalk and watch for him. Just then a car pulled up and a much much older man asked if i need a ride? I look down the street an saw my BF getting in his car and pulling out... I told the driver of the car no thanks and pointed down the street and said my BF is on his way. He pointed at my BF's car and said that's your BF? I said yes and he got a funny look on his face a took off fast. That is when I thought to myself damn he could have been a kidnapper.
Anyways years down the road a local serial killer was arrested and they showed his picture on the news and I was like OMG!!! That is the man that asked me if I needed a ride!! That man was Arthur Shawcross !

Holy crap! That is so frightening! So are all these other stories. It's amazing how not uncommon it is. Children are so trusting. When I hear someone say "My child would never go with a stranger," I know that is what the parent believes, but that isn't necessarily true.

badhorsie
05-28-2009, 03:33 PM
I was 18, just left home, I used to hitch hike a lot. A seemingly friendly man picked me up, the conversation quickly became sexual and I froze. I asked to get out and he kept saying "at the next layby" but kept on driving right on past them. The car stopped at lights and I jumped out. I ran off, when I looked back her kept on looking at me. This was where Fred West was operating... I have often wondered if it was him.
He drove a van.
I never hitch hiked again

christine2448
05-28-2009, 03:44 PM
why we do this? :

http://www.thecitizen.com/~citizen0/node/36800

future criminologist
05-28-2009, 07:27 PM
I think I do it because it's sad and bothersome to me to think that

(a) we can disappear and never be found

and

(b) we die alone and unclaimed.


I'd like to work to resolve one of these two circumstances, because it is my absolute worst nightmare.

chaddylex
05-29-2009, 12:28 PM
I believe the reason I do this is because a girl the same age as me was abducted from a town about an hour from where I live and I would see it on the news (I was 9 years old) - from then on I was always reading crime and mystery novels and then when I got the internet and found Doe Network I tried to compare UID's to people on missing person's websites....My husband and family think I am crazy.... Even here at work I show my co workers possible matches to get their opinions......

Needless to say the girl, that I think got me started in this facination is still missing. Her name is Cherie Mahan http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mahan_cherrie.html We have a thread on here toohttp://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48095&highlight=Cherie+Mahan

I just wish one day she would be found!!

future criminologist
05-29-2009, 06:32 PM
the cases that got me started were Maura Murray, and going back further, Molly Bish. Maura was around the same age as me, and from my state, and has never been found. Molly Bish was a lifeguard at the same time that I was lifeguarding at a similar type place, during the summer, during her lifeguard shift. also in my state (Massachusetts). her bones were found years later, and her killer has never been found.

www.mauramurraymissing.com

http://www.mollybish.org/

I've also been influenced by Jennifer Kesse's case, who I received an email about from someone I knew, who apparently knew her, on myspace when she first went missing.


My sister was followed and a guy attempted to lure her into his car when she was 12 and out walking the neighbor's dog. She still remembers everything about this guy, to this day.

and she still remembers Sarah Pryor's disappearance in 1985. A fragment of her skull was not found until 1998:

http://www.gardenofpeacememorial.org/personal/story.php?id=13

future criminologist
05-29-2009, 08:05 PM
The other case that always really bothered me was that of Michael Curley, a little boy who was abducted, raped and murdered in Mass. It was one of the most horrific, disturbing crimes that has ever happened in this state. It's stuck with me for years.

and what's disturbing to me is that all those UIDs on that list who were homicide victims? their killer will probably never be held accountable for that crime. you just think, there are people out there right this second who have committed horrific, horrible acts against others, and are walking free among us. That UID right there is their crime and they are not in jail!

StealthTheory
06-05-2009, 11:46 AM
I want to try to match bodies with the missing , but have to admit I fear what my family will think. I already know my boyfriend doesn't like my morbid fascination.
I have this interest because of things that happened to me as a child. When I was in middle school I was very troubled and skipping school. An old man saw me drawing at a dunkin donuts and tried to convince me to come with him to go to an art museum. I didn't but thinking about it now chills my blood. We also had an incident in my town of someone pretending to be a cop to try to abduct women.
I was in Philly during the Center City Rapist scare. A man tried to pull me into his SUV when I was 19. I ran to a cop, but the cop didn't care at all. I tried to give him a description, but he wouldn't write anything down. It hurt so much to see a police officer not take me seriously. Even though I no longer live in the Philly area I find myself looking at missing persons from that area to see if I know anything or recognize anyone. We became so desensitized to men attempting to hurt us back then, or men exposing themselves to us. So much must go unreported.

Snufamonbobball
06-05-2009, 07:02 PM
I think i am compelled to do this because i was a kid off the grid. I ran away to texas (about 900 miles from home) when i was 15 (gone for 9 months on and off the street) - and i could easily be one of the people we look for.

:smile:Stealth- you aren't alone in having people who are close to you think you weird. Almost everyone i know thinks that i'm strange, and maybe i am, but i don't really care- i know searching makes a difference, so don't give up!!

OkieGranny
06-24-2013, 06:40 PM
LOL, my husband has no idea I'm doing this. He would FREAK.

I have no near-abduction story. I'm a life-long puzzle solver -- crosswords, sudoku, jigsaw puzzles, logic problems, etc -- but solving that kind of puzzle is really an empty exercise, of no benefit whatsoever other than keeping myself amused. Complete waste of time, really. On the other hand, solving missing persons/UID puzzles can be of real benefit -- to a family living in limbo, to society, to help get killers off the streets.

It's funny, but I've been asked several times over the years what superpower I wish I had, and my answer has always been the ability to find missing people. Not in the vague psychic sense of "I see water, near a pine tree and a big rock," but to be able to give exact GPS coordinates and say, "Go to this spot and you will find the bones." Before stumbling across WS, it had never occurred to me that helping to find these people is something I might actually be able do, and not just wishful thinking.

I do have to shut out the emotional aspects of these cases; there's just too much horror and sadness to absorb it all and stay sane.

EmmaliLucia
06-24-2013, 07:56 PM
I've always had a strange fascination with serial killers.

When I was 15 I was a really troubled kid, my boyfriend was an abusive heroin addict and I wasn't much better, I was drinking and smoking my problems away, my friend would often sell her body on Craigslist for alcohol and marijuana (She was also 15 at the time) and she became good friends with one of her Johns.

We all hung out one night and I really didn't have very much to drink but for some reason the next thing I remember was I was on the floor and couldn't move to save my life. I woke up the next morning tied to the bed, I knew what happened but pretended that I didn't and took a shower and even stole his pack of cigarettes as a kind of "Screw you" gesture.

He then offered to drive me home and to Taco Bell, the Taco Bell was closed so for some reason he just kept driving, and driving, and driving, and driving.
His apartment was in the SW Suburban area of Portland, and somehow we ended up on East 82nd Ave (For those who follow Dayton LeeRoy Rogers, that's where he would pick up his victims, it's really not that far away from a lot of forested areas).

After we passed 82nd I started worrying and started talking him down, he was starting to say pretty scary stuff by that time and I somehow convinced him to drive me home.
The way back he started joking and I would pretend that what he was saying was the funniest thing I've ever heard.

Probably the scariest hour of my entire life.

Even now, the police have my statement, and his mug-shot, but every time I hear of a girl who's gone missing in Portland, I wonder if it was possibly him. I know my mom would've reported me as a runaway and figured I'd just left on my own accord. I'm worried about the "Runaways" out there for that very reason, just because you have a history of leaving, doesn't mean that you're where you are voluntarily.