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TopGunner
03-09-2009, 10:36 PM
All information on the victims here.

DotsEyes
03-12-2009, 09:19 PM
First victim.
Full Name: Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis.
Age: 29.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children: One child is cousin to child of Whitnei Charlene Dubois, victim - same grandmother.
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 5/?/05
Body found by: fishermen
Body location: E. Fork of Grand Marais CANAL off LA1126, 3 miles w. of LA 26.
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings: High levels of alcohol/drugs in body.
Known activites: Hung out at local SONIC BURGER - presumed to be in Jennings.

Second victim.
Full Name: Ernestine Marie Daniel Patterson.
Age: 30.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment: WENDY'S HAMBURGERS under supervision of Teresa Gary in Jennings.
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 6/?/05
Body found by: fishermen
Body location: In CANAL off LA99.
Race: African American.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings: Throat slit.
Known activites:

Third victim.
Full Name: Kristen Elizabeth Gary Lopez.
Age: 21
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive 3/5/07.
Date reported missing: 3/15/07
Reported missing by: Tracee Chaisson.
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 3/18/07
Body found by: Fishermen.
Body location: Petijean CANAL off LA99.
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings: High levels of alcohol and drugs.
Known activites:
Other: Niece of Teresa Gary, cousin to Brittany Gary.
Husband hung out with Crystal Benoit Zeno's husband.

Fourth victim.
Full Name: Whitnei Charlene Dubois.
Age: 26
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive:
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children: One child is cousin to child of Loretta Lewis, victim, same grandmother.
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 5/?/07
Body found by: Unidentified couple.
Body location: Intersection of Bobby and Earl Duhon Roads.
Race: Caucasian
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings:
Known activites:
Other: Found nude.

Fifth victim.
Full Name: Laconia Shontel "Muggy" Brown.
Age: 23.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive:
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 5/?/08
Body found by: LE
Body location: East Racca Road, which leads to shooting range.
Race: African American.
Homicide: Yes.
COD:
Autopsy findings: Throat slit.
Known activites:
Other: Doused with bleach.
Body still warm.
Best friend to Brittany Gary.

Sixth victim.
Full Name: Crystal Benoit Zeno.
Age: 24.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive: 8/27/08
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment: SONIC BURGER in Lake Arthur.
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 9/11/08. Positive ID made 11/11/08.
Body found by:
Body location: LaCour Rd.
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide: Yes.
COD:
Autopsy findings:
Known activites:
Other: Husband hung out with husband of Kristen Lopez, victim.

Seventh victim.
Full Name: Brittany GaryAge: 17.
Residence: South Doyle Street. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive: 11/1/08
Date reported missing: 11/2/08
Reported missing by: Family.
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents: Mother is Teresa Gary
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found:
Body found by: Family/friends searching
Body location:
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings:
Known activites:
Other: Mother is Teresa Gary, claims to know all victims.
Uncle "Butch" Gary.
Last seen at 5:30 pm, Sunday, at FAMILY DOLLAR STORE buying cell phone minutes.
5 block walk from home.
Best friend to Laconia Shontel "Muggy" Brown, victim.
Cousin to Kristen Elizabeth Gary Lopez, victim.
Lived in Houston and Lufkin for 4 months before return to Jennings 1 week before
disappearance.
Tattoo "Crazy Beautiful"

DotsEyes
03-12-2009, 10:23 PM
First 3 vitims found in CANALS.
Second 3 victims found on ROADS.
Victims 1, 2 and 6 associated with fast food facilities.
Mother of missing 7th presumed victim knew all victims, worked in fast food industry.
Both African American victims had throats slit.

News articles found in "Information" thread here state that "all were found with high levels of alcohol and cocaine in their system" and all were known to "trade sex for drugs". This was stated before Brittany was found, so she is not included in "all".

All were residents of the south side of Jennings. ( I assume this means south of the RR tracks.)

Only 2-3 have been classified as homicides. Assume that Ernestine Lewis and Laconia Brown are 2 so classified, since their throats were slit. No information on identity of 3rd homicide victim.

All except Laconia Brown were found in advanced stages of decomposition. None died where they were found.

Authorities suspect drug connection to all victims.

Ages: 17,21,23,24,26,29,30.

Dates of body discovery: 5/05; 6/05; 3/07; 5/07; 5/08; 9/08; 11/08.

Brittany would have been 13 when first victims, Loretta (29) and Ernestine (30), were murdered and 16 when her best friend Muggy (23) was murdered.

DotsEyes
03-17-2009, 02:41 PM
Added information from obituary.

Sixth victim.
Full Name: Crystal Benoit Zeno.
Age: 24.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive: 8/27/08
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment: SONIC BURGER in Lake Arthur.
Spouse: Stanley Ray Benoit (2d husband). Ray Harrison, 1st husband, preceded Crystal in death.
Spouse's employment:
Children: Amaney Paige Benoit. (F)
Parents: Bryan Lee Benoit. Sarah Ann Gaspard Benoit.
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Siblings: Zachary Benoit and Melissa Benoit of Lake Arthur and Jennifer Benoit of Egan.
Maternal Grandmother: Joyce McLean, Jennings.
In Laws: Mary Ann and Lional Mouton.
Date body found: 9/11/08. Positive ID made 11/11/08.
Body found by:
Body location: LaCour Rd. Jennings, LA.
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings:
Known activites:
Other: Husband hung out with husband of Kristen Lopez, victim.

s_finch
03-23-2009, 01:21 AM
Wow, all these people are connected and LE can't figure this one out? There has to be matching DNA on some of the victims.

DotsEyes
03-29-2009, 02:25 PM
As I gather additional information, I will add to this and re-post with the info. Here, in red:

First victim.
Full Name: Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis.
Age: 29.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children: One child is cousin to child of Whitnei Charlene Dubois, victim - same grandmother.
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 5/17/05
Body found by: fishermen
Body location: E. Fork of Grand Marais CANAL off LA1126, 3 miles w. of LA 26.
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings: High levels of alcohol/drugs in body.
Known activites: Hung out at local SONIC BURGER - presumed to be in Jennings.

Second victim.
Full Name: Ernestine Marie Daniel Patterson.
Age: 30.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment: WENDY'S HAMBURGERS under supervision of Teresa Gary in Jennings.
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 6/18/05
Body found by: fishermen
Body location: In CANAL off LA99.
Race: African American.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings: Throat slit.
Known activites:

Third victim.
Full Name: Kristen Elizabeth Gary Lopez.
Age: 21
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive 3/5/07.
Date reported missing: 3/15/07
Reported missing by: Tracee Chaisson.
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 3/18/07
Body found by: Fishermen.
Body location: Petijean CANAL off LA99.
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings: High levels of alcohol and drugs.
Known activites:
Other: Niece of Teresa Gary, cousin to Brittany Gary.
Husband hung out with Crystal Benoit Zeno's husband.

Fourth victim.
Full Name: Whitnei Charlene Dubois.
Age: 26
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive:
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children: One child is cousin to child of Loretta Lewis, victim, same grandmother.
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 5/?/07
Body found by: Unidentified couple.
Body location: Intersection of Bobby and Earl Duhon Roads.
Race: Caucasian
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings:
Known activites:
Other: Found nude.

Fifth victim.
Full Name: Laconia Shontel "Muggy" Brown.
Age: 23.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive: 5/28/08 by Grandmother
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 5/?/08
Body found by: LE
Body location: East Racca Road, which leads to shooting range.
Race: African American.
Homicide: Yes.
COD:
Autopsy findings: Throat slit.
Known activites:
Other: Doused with bleach.
Body still warm.
Best friend to Brittany Gary.

Sixth victim.
Full Name: Crystal Benoit Zeno.
Age: 24.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive: 8/27/08
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment: SONIC BURGER in Lake Arthur.
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents:
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 9/11/08. Positive ID made 11/11/08.
Body found by:
Body location: LaCour Rd.
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide: Yes.
COD:
Autopsy findings:
Known activites:
Other: Husband hung out with husband of Kristen Lopez, victim.

Seventh victim.
Full Name: Brittany Gary
Age: 17.
Residence: South Doyle Street. Jennings,LA.
Last seen alive: 11/1/08
Date reported missing: 11/2/08
Reported missing by: Family.
Employment:
Spouse:
Spouse's employment:
Children:
Parents: Mother is Teresa Gary
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found:
Body found by: Family/friends searching
Body location:
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings:
Known activites:
Other: Mother is Teresa Gary, claims to know all victims.
Uncle "Butch" Gary.
Last seen at 5:30 pm, Sunday, at FAMILY DOLLAR STORE buying cell phone minutes.
5 block walk from home.
Best friend to Laconia Shontel "Muggy" Brown, victim.
Cousin to Kristen Elizabeth Gary Lopez, victim.
Lived in Houston and Lufkin for 4 months before return to Jennings 1 week before
disappearance.
Tattoo "Crazy Beautiful"

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suejay40
03-30-2009, 07:18 PM
I have been reading about this case all day and have a little bit of info for this list. Betty Jean Chaisson is listed in the obituaries on 3/6/2008, in the Jennings Daily News. She is the first victim's mother. There is a lot of info in the obit on her relatives.

DotsEyes
03-31-2009, 03:49 AM
Suejay - do you have a link, so I can read the information and do an update?

Or could you post the information for me?

suejay40
03-31-2009, 07:00 AM
I will get you the link I also found a step-mother's obit right around the same period of time in the Jennings Daily News. Strange, both of the mom's were very young to pass away. I am reading and reading on this because it is very familiar to me after the Baton Rouge seriial killer case.

I need to go back over the Terms of Service for Websleuths to see what we can post and what we can't. I forgot about full names, etc., as I haven't read them in so long. If you want, I can just pm you the info to post with the links where I found the info till I get more comfortable with what is allowed and what is not.

The first obit for, I believe mom, is www.jenningsdailynews.net/obitsarch.php?id=310

This link is for the step-mom's obit, www.jenningsdailynews.net/obitsarch.php?id=147

DotsEyes
03-31-2009, 06:25 PM
First victim.
Additional information about Loretta from her mothers obituaries, Betty Jean Chaisson and Patricia Ann Deshotel Lacombe. Thanks to SueJay40! Both claim Loretta as their daughter, so one is a step-mother. Information from Betty is bolded in black, that of Patricia is in red.


Full Name: Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis.
Age: 29.
Residence: No address. Jennings,LA.
Date reported missing:
Reported missing by:
Employment:
Spouse: Murphy Lewis
Spouse's employment:
Children: One child is cousin to child of Whitnei Charlene Dubois, victim - same grandmother. Kendrick Lewis and Keylan Lewis
Parents: Betty Jean Chaisson (died 3/4/08, age 48), Thomas "Shawee" Chaisson Also, Patricia Ann Deshotel LaCombe (died 12/21/07, age 50)(bio-mother of Loretta?)
Parents address:
Parents Employment:
Date body found: 5/17/05
Body found by: fishermen
Body location: E. Fork of Grand Marais CANAL off LA1126, 3 miles w. of LA 26.
Race: Caucasian.
Homicide:
COD:
Autopsy findings: High levels of alcohol/drugs in body.
Known activites: Hung out at local SONIC BURGER - presumed to be in Jennings.
Siblings: Shantell Chaisson, (fiancé, Filiberto “George” Maciel), of Lafayette Monique Chaisson, (fiancé, Chris Schlesinger, of Lake Arthur) and Anjele Chaisson of Jennings, Jeremy Chaisson, (wife Patsy) of Lacassine. Step-brothers: Nicholas Chaisson, (wife, Hannah) of Roanoke and Chad Chaisson, (fiancée, Michelle Lantz) of Welsh; Also, Brandy Cormier of Jennings and Bridgett Cormier of Crowley
Maternal Grandparents: Clifford and Ina Deshotel Chaisson, deceased.
Also, Allen and Emily David (deceased) Deshotel

TopGunner
04-04-2009, 10:01 AM
Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis

http://jdpkiller.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/lorettalynnchaisson10.jpg

TopGunner
04-04-2009, 10:02 AM
Kristen Elizabeth Gary Lopez

http://jdpkiller.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/kristenelizabethgarylopez1.jpg

DotsEyes
04-04-2009, 04:36 PM
TopGunner - thanks for posting the photos! :)

TopGunner
04-05-2009, 09:35 AM
TopGunner - thanks for posting the photos! :)

Thank you for ALL your efforts here!

I didn't mean to stop at 2, but got side-tracked. I'll try to post more later today.:blowkiss:

suejay40
04-07-2009, 01:45 PM
I have been researching families of the victims and came across this. I thought this was very strange as it was all within a very short period of time. What do you think?
Deaths of mothers of victims and one suspect:
1/2/08 Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis mother - Patricia Ann Deshotel LaCombe (50) passed away. http://www.jenningsdailynews.net/obitsarch.php?id=147
2/26/08 Whitnei Dubois - mother - Dorothy Lee Debois (__) passed away. http://www.jenningsdailynews.net/obitsarch.php?id=284#
3/6/08 Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis - step mother - Betty Jean Chaisson (48) passed away. http://www.jenningsdailynews.net/obitsarch.php?id=310
3/28/08 Hannah Conner (SUSPECT) - mother - Pamela LeJeune Landry(41) passed away. http://www.jenningsdailynews.net/obitsarch.php?id=342

Does this seem strange to anyone besides me?

DotsEyes
04-07-2009, 04:18 PM
Suejay - I find it very strange indeed. Thank you for this sleuthing of family members!

The date of deaths are 12/31/07; 2/25/08; 3/4/08; and 3/23/08, respectively. Loretta's mother AND step-mother died within 2 months of one another, 3 of these women died at the American Legion Hospital in Jennings, one at Lafayette General, all were connected with the murders through daughters.

No causes of death were listed.

7 murdered girls, 1 female suspect, 4 mothers dead. Eleven women, all interrelated in these murders, dead within 3 years? None over 50 years of age? (maybe Whitnei's mother was - we don't know). All the mothers died within less than a 4 month period.

As it is, this isn't passing the sniff test for me. Let's all put on our thinking caps here. This is crazy suspicious to me.

Could it be that someone is poisoning the mothers or something? Or is it just coincidence? None died at home.

I will add additonal information to the victims later today.

mysterygirl
04-07-2009, 06:19 PM
That is a little strange. Just some background. Jennings only has one hospital in town, American Legion Hospital. Lafayette is about 30-45 minute drive from Jennings and has several hospitals. If a more specialized surgery is needed, for example, one would go to the bigger cities (hospitals).

I've read some blogs linked from this site and remember that Whitnei DuBois's sister wrote several things on the blog and seemed to want to remain involved. Maybe she will read this and shed some light on it. I think you have to look at EVERYTHING when it still seems to be a guessing game.

I still have the feeling that police know who it is but they lack proof...

waltzingmatilda
04-07-2009, 08:28 PM
This is way too coincidental! How could we find the cause of death for each of these moms? Gosh this is so scary. I'm speechless. going to put my thinkin cap on now.....

suejay40
04-07-2009, 09:04 PM
I am looking up some relatives on intellius for the various victims and suspects. Will supply that info tomorrow. I just realized that Whitnei's mother, father, brother, and now Whitnei have all died at very young ages. I just think that is so sad. She must have been one lonely young girl. Back to work now.

TopGunner
04-07-2009, 10:48 PM
Britney Gary, Crystal Shay Benoit Zeno

http://media.amw.com/multimedia/fileRepository/db/472/198/Gary_Brittney_content1.jpghttp://media.amw.com/multimedia/fileRepository/db/472/198/Zeno_Crystal_content.jpg
http://media.amw.com/multimedia/fileRepository/db/472/198/Brown_Laconia_content.jpghttp://media.amw.com/multimedia/fileRepository/db/472/198/Dubois_Whitnei_content.jpg

Laconia Brown, Whitnei Dubois

http://media.amw.com/multimedia/fileRepository/db/472/198/Patterson_Ernestine_content.jpg

Ernestine Patterson

DotsEyes
04-07-2009, 11:54 PM
TopGunner - thank you so much for the photos! I don't know why, but I am especially "connected" to Muggy Brown. I think it is because the perp doused her in bleach or maybe it is her nickname, but she has a chunk of my heart for some reason. Seeing her face tells me she was a sweetheart of a person. Thanks again.

I realized that the American Legion Hospital was probably the only one in Jennings, so there may be nothing at all "coincidental" about the hospital. However, none died at home or a car wreck or drowning etc. - all died in the hospital, all were connected as parents of victims and the suspect and all within 4 months of each other? I can't wrap my head around this.

PS Ernestine and Whitnei were particulary beautiful women, weren't they? (not that all weren't lovely, but these 2 were beautiful)

waltzingmatilda
04-08-2009, 07:21 AM
Thank you for posting the photos, TopGunner!

This case just gets stranger as the days go by.

MeoW333
04-08-2009, 09:42 AM
It would be great if we could get accurate toxicology results for the 4 mothers.
It's as if someone wanted to "shut up" the mothers from speaking out about the murders of their daughters..

suejay40
04-08-2009, 09:48 AM
I'm not sure if this should go here or in the suspects thread, but here goes. I have been able to link suspect, Tracee Chaisson, to one of the victims, Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis. Per Loretta's mothers' (both mom and step mom) obits, she had 2 brothers or perhaps half brothers, Chad and Nicholas. Tracee is listed as living with Nicholas and Chad in Jennings (various addresses) with both of them. I can't provide a link, as it is a pay as you go service. I am trying hard to find a linkable (is that a word) source, but haven't found one yet. Just thought y'all would be interested.

sassy69
04-10-2009, 08:10 PM
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w132/dolphin1us/blue7youngwoman.jpg

sassy69
04-11-2009, 11:36 AM
Just wondering if any of you on here heard that Terrie Gulliory was seen last week at Billy and Hannah Connor residents. Wonder what the Warden of Jeff Davis Parish was doing at there house in his official SO uniform, and it did not appear to be "official Business". Just thought I would see if anyone else might have seen something else or know of what was going on here??:waitasec:



In May, 2007, Frankie Richard (51 at the time) and his niece, Hannah Conner (22 at the time), both of Jennings, were arrested and charged with second-degree murder in connection to the death of Kristen Lopez (3/18/07). They were also questioned about the death of Ernestine Patterson (6/17/05). Richard was reportedly seen with three of the victims in the last days of their lives. According to an article in the American Press (Lake Charles, LA) - July 31, 2007 (no link, sorry) Conner was seen with Lopez in her last days. Charges were eventually dropped due to insufficient evidence and conflicting witness statements.

Richard was also charged with rape around that same time. The alleged victim dropped charges in July 2007 and the complaint was dismissed.
Neither Richard, or his niece, are strangers to police. Richard has been convicted of DWI’s and charged with assault & battery. Conner has been charged with burglary, theft and trespassing.

Also arrested in May, 2007, was Tracee L. Chaisson. She was booked on Accessory After the Fact charges. Chaisson was apparently the person who reported Kristen Lopez missing and was interviewed on several occasions. Investigators believed she knew where the body was when she made the report. Like Richard and Conner, charges were dropped due to lack of evidence and conflicting statements.

District Attorney Michael Cassidy, with the 31st Judicial District, said there were numerous problems but basically in each of the cases involving Patterson and Lopez there was a lack of evidence, a lot of here-say and a lack of credibility in those who implicated others.

“We would rather dismiss the case and let the investigation continue knowing that we can always return to it,” Cassidy said.

The alternative would have been to press on and risk losing the case, which would have ruined any future possibilities should additional evidence or leads surface.
This article was taken from http://jdpkiller.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/arrests/
Must give credit where credit is due

suejay40
04-11-2009, 02:29 PM
Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis (victim) is the cousin of Tracee Chaisson (suspect). Their mothers are sisters. Tracee's mother is Ruth Smith. Loretta's mother is Betty Jean Chaisson. Cannot give a link, because it is through intellius.com info.

mysterygirl
04-11-2009, 02:31 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm sassy69........that is very interesting......

DotsEyes
04-11-2009, 06:21 PM
Why on Earth would the Warden visit the home of 2 criminals who are believed to be connected to 2 murders and several victims?

Who pressed rape charges against this man and is that person still alive?

sassy69
04-11-2009, 09:26 PM
I am wondering the same thing as to why the warden is visiting these people. I am not sure who filed the rape charges, I will see if I can find out. This does not look good our warden of our parish jail off visiting and hanging out with known criminals. Wish I was a fly on the wall there to know what was being discussed.....:confused: There are to many ??? in this town and not enough answers.

DotsEyes
04-13-2009, 05:49 PM
Sassy, it does seem odd doesn't it? Who knows, maybe they are related.

DotsEyes
05-29-2009, 04:06 AM
Let's ee if I am getting the connections straight here.

Loretta is cousin to Tracee Chaisson, and has a child whose father is brother to Whitnei Dubois' child's father.

Brittany is cousin to Kristen Lopez, their fathers are brothers, and Kristen's husband hung out with Crystal Zeno's husband. She is also best friends with Muggy and daughter of Teresa for whom Ernestine once worked.

Tracee was a suspect in both Loretta's and Kristen's deaths.


Is she the only connection between these 2 groups of girls? No. There is Richard who is Tracee's uncle. (is he related to Loretta?) Anyone else know of a family connection that I am missing?

donna b
07-03-2009, 11:09 PM
Every bit of this reeks-from the 7 murder victims to all the other deaths. There is just no way, in my mind that this is a coincidence! As this is the first I've read about it, I will do some research as well.

DotsEyes
07-04-2009, 10:05 PM
Thanks Donnab. It does reek to high heaven.

Dealers don't usually kill their customers. Pimps don't usually kill the girls in their stable. Drugs and prostitution appear to be the only link among these girls that anyone is thinking about. Yet, they are almost all family to one another in some way and if not family, then friends.

There is no such thing as the perfect murder, much less 7 perfect murders by one person. There must be evidence that was overlooked.

southlaguy
07-29-2009, 01:30 PM
This case is unreal. I've been reading about it for a month now and it does reek the more I learn about the connections. There is now way possible this is all a huge coincidence. I can't believe that the cops turned down John Walsh and America's Most Wanted. Going to Houston the other day, I stopped by the Wendy's and Sonic and just thought about the victims and how they either worked here or hung out here. It was a weird experience. Thanks DotsEyes for all your work and info. Very interesting. No matter what lifestyle these women had, they did not deserve this.

DotsEyes
07-31-2009, 03:10 AM
southlaguy - no thank you for reading here. If you saw on another thread, a Swiss production company will be filming a documentary about the murders in September of this year.

Eleven women, all inter-related dead in 3 years, 7 murdered and 4 of their mothers (one step-mother) died within 3 months of one another in a town of less than 10,000 people. Extraordinary odds if you ask me.

These girls were so beautiful and they meant the world to someone.

geauxgirl
08-21-2009, 03:09 PM
There may be an 8th victim now. They found a body today that was missing from Sunday. I posted a link in the Media thread.

Necole Guillory is her name.

mysterygirl
08-21-2009, 04:56 PM
There may be an 8th victim now. They found a body today that was missing from Sunday. I posted a link in the Media thread.

Necole Guillory is her name.

She ran in the same crowd, it is not looking good

DotsEyes
09-01-2009, 07:50 AM
Is she related to the warden? I guess Guillory is quite a common name in the area, right?

Please add her information here. Is there a photo of her?

sweety101
09-03-2009, 04:45 PM
Obiviously there's something going on! They can't find any evidence .. I can't believe that!
It's time to bring in the Big Dogs!
Also you can leave tips and there's pictures of the girls on the Jeffdaviscrimes.net site.

JenningsGirl4444
09-08-2009, 01:23 AM
A Jennings citizen believes that her family member may be the 9th victim in the series of murders in Jennings. The link below leads to a short article but the video link to the right provides the full story:

http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11040433



The eighth and most recent victim's information is included in this article:

http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10977216



There is currently a film crew in Jennings working on a documentary of the eight victims. They are from Switzerland and are seeking to gain national and international interest in the unsolved murders. The link provided has more information:

http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11083246

JenningsGirl4444
09-08-2009, 01:35 AM
Additional general information:

http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=10998478



Another link about the most recent victim, Necole Guillory:

http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=11030391


Kinda strange the most recent victim just so happened to be caught on the PI's surveillance tape isn't it? Really frustrating!

shadowraiths
10-01-2009, 12:01 PM
So often, when SK cases arise, our seemingly blood-thirsty public raises the killer to near god-like status, while relegating the victims to statistics, their manner of death used to prop up some sensationalized phrase. Few, if any, outside of loved ones and immediate communities, even know the victims' names, much less, know about them as humans. The families and community have come together to change this. Thanks to the editor of the Jennings Daily News, I was given the privilege to repost their first article in the series on the victims.

http://crimsonshadows.net/content/view/169/49/

MeoW333
11-03-2009, 05:31 AM
The 8th victim, Guillory, had a childhood friend who said Guillory most likely knew all the other women. I found the info in an article googling came up in another forum.
Not sure if i am allowed to link it. The original article was in the towntalk, now the page can't be found so i have to paste the words..
TopGunner, if i can't can you delete or it tell me and i'll delete it?
"
Eighth victim -- Jenning woman's body found along Interstate 10 in South Louisiana
Gannett Louisiana News • August 21, 2009
JEFF DAVIS PARISH — The discovery of a murdered Jefferson Davis Parish woman's body discarded along Interstate 10 has left residents here experiencing some all too familiar feelings.

"It's scary," Lake Arthur resident Marion Bouler said. "I don't even like going to Jennings any more."

The body was found Wednesday near Egan between Crowley and Jennings and Jeff Davis Sheriff Ricky Edwards has identified the body as 26-year-old Necole Guillory. Bouler attended elementary school with Guillory and lives next door to where Guillory's family once lived.

Hers is the eighth in a string of mysterious deaths of young Jennings women since 2005.

A Multi-Agency Investigative Task Force made up of nine agencies, including the Jefferson Davis Parish Sheriff's Offices and the FBI are investigating what they call the "series of homicides of women who resided within Jennings."

Law officers are asking for public vigilance and requesting information about the murders.

"The offender is someone with significant ties to the Jennings and Jefferson Davis Parish area. He has demonstrated a strong familiarity with the area, and is someone known to residents there," Edwards said in the release. "The offender may have been seen in the area of Jennings where these young ladies disappeared from. He may have been, and perhaps is still frequenting the area."

Anyone with information about the murders can contact the Task Force at 824-6662.

Despite the outreach to the community, some say it is not enough.

Gail Brown, 22, is frustrated that police have not found a suspect in the murders. Her sister LaConia Shontel "Muggy" Brown's body was found doused in bleach in 2005 on a gravel road on the edge of Jennings' city limits.

"It just hurts," she said. "This is the eighth girl and they never found who killed Muggy."

The puzzling deaths began in May 2005 when fisherman discovered the body of 28-year-old Loretta Lynn Chaisson floating in the Grand Marais drainage canal a couple miles southwest of Jennings. After that, Ernestine Marie Daniel Patterson, 29; Kristen Elizabeth Gary Lopez, 21; Whitnei Charlene Dubois, 26; Brown, 23; Chrystal Shay Benoit, 24; and Brittney Gary, 17, were all found dead in rural areas of Jeff Davis Parish.

Gary's body was discovered on Nov. 15, 2008, nearly two weeks after she went missing.

"In reaction to heightened public awareness and intensive law enforcement investigation, the offender has changed his method of operation. For instance, the most recent victim's body was discarded off to the side of Interstate 10 in Acadia Parish," Sheriff Edwards said in a release. "Previous victims' bodies were discarded off to the side of smaller, rural roads."

Although all the dead women used drugs -- most commonly crack cocaine -- and sometimes traded sex for drugs, spent time in jail, knew each other and were disposed of in similar ways, authorities hesitate to say a serial killer is responsible for their deaths.

Guillory's childhood friend Bouler knew most of the victims and said Guillory likely knew all the women. She also lived a similar lifestyle.

Guillory was arrested and convicted of possession of crack cocaine in 2007 and served 20 months in prison for the crime, according to court documents.

She was released earlier this year and at the time of her death, she had a warrant for her arrest. She had violated probation by not keeping in contact with her probation officer.

She had a long list of arrests dating to 2001, including theft, burglary, aggravated assault, aggravated assault of a police officer, resisting arrest, possession of drug paraphernalia and simple criminal damage. Most of the cases were dismissed.

Although Guillory is last known to have lived in Jennings, she grew up in Lake Arthur and only attended school through seventh grade, according to court documents.

Guillory would have been 27 next week. Her last known address was in the Acadian Apartments in Jennings.

Darlene Daigle, a 14-year resident of the apartments, lived near Guillory's apartment. Daigle often sat outside and talked to Guillory, calling her "very outgoing."

Childhood friend Bouler agrees with Daigle.

"She was a very nice girl," she said. "I know these girls did drugs. I know. ... They do not deserve to be killed and something should have been done about this. Eight girls and nobody knows nothing."


http://www.thetowntalk.com/article/2...EWS01/90821009 (http://www.thetowntalk.com/article/20090821/NEWS01/90821009)

MeoW333
11-03-2009, 05:34 AM
"In reaction to heightened public awareness and intensive law enforcement investigation, the offender has changed his method of operation. For instance, the most recent victim's body was discarded off to the side of Interstate 10 in Acadia Parish," Sheriff Edwards said in a release. "Previous victims' bodies were discarded off to the side of smaller, rural roads."
Qouting Sheriff Ricky Edwards here..

What if the serial killer hasn't changed his method, he's just reverted back to another method he's used of dumping his victims, and it's possible there is a lot more out there?

MeoW333
11-03-2009, 05:39 AM
Kirk Menard (P.I.) has a video he released of Guillory walking in hopes someone would recognize her

YouTube - Surveillance video of Necole Guillory captured by Kirk Menard two months prior to her death

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Finally! Officials confirm serial killings. It's about time they open their eyes and said the words "serial killer" aloud!
http://www.theadvertiser.com/article/20091029/NEWS01/910290326
"Officials investigating the deaths of eight Jefferson Davis Parish women called the murders the work of a serial killer for the first time Wednesday"

DotsEyes
11-16-2009, 11:56 PM
Why was the PI video taping this girl?

JenningsGirl4444
11-21-2009, 12:10 AM
Why was the PI video taping this girl?

From what I remember, the article that went with this video said something of the sorts that this is a well-known crackhouse. I believe the PI was taping hotspots to try and link people to certain locations or something to that effect. Hope this helps :) It is hard to find old articles on KPLC's website.

momof4gueydan
11-29-2009, 01:19 AM
New here never posted before.....yall are doing a great job. :dance:

Louisiana Saint
01-07-2010, 08:42 PM
The latest victim that I've come across
She was a person who frequented Jennings and Lake Arthur a lot

http://www.kplctv.com/global/story.asp?s=11575344

It seems they're dragging out the bodies away from jennings to take the heat off of that town, but they're only taking them 20-40 minutes away from j-town

and only into the outskirts of the parish/inside of the next parish over

There's a couple of other women not mentioned in here from other areas that frequented jennings.

Stephani
08-12-2010, 01:16 PM
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seekinfo/jenningsla_murders.htm

FBI's Request for Information site on the Jennings victims...photos of all of them.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seekinfo/jenningsla_murders.htm

bfree911
04-26-2011, 02:43 PM
SueJay, I'm curious as to why Tracey Chaisson is considered a suspect. I wuz born & reared in north La and am only too familiar with the 'good ole boy' network way of doing things. Because of the lack of info on causes of death for the mothers, no arrests or even suspects for any of the victims, this smacks of it so it's not inconceivable that the perp might be law enforcement. As for the 'throat cuts', that area is known for it's deeply entrenched prejudicies against blacks (i.e. Colfax). Could be somebody's daddy got pissed at the mamas and daughters for BFF'ing colored girls or something. Hate to bring that up but it's entirely possible considering the area.... Speaking of, where are the brothers, fathers, and husbands of these women? Why aren't they kickin' up a huge stink that the killer(s) haven't been caught?

BTW, great sleuthing!!!

shadowraiths
05-01-2011, 01:42 PM
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seekinfo/jenningsla_murders.htm

FBI's Request for Information site on the Jennings victims...photos of all of them.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seekinfo/jenningsla_murders.htm
Fyi, this link appears to have changed to

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/murder-victims

Since the above url is very generic, I suspect they did that so they can change it out. So, you may want to grab the pdf while it is available.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/murder-victims/print-pdf

norest4thewicked
03-16-2012, 02:00 PM
Bumping up...

Mountain_Kat
12-24-2012, 08:33 AM
First 3 vitims found in CANALS.
Second 3 victims found on ROADS.
Victims 1, 2 and 6 associated with fast food facilities.
Mother of missing 7th presumed victim knew all victims, worked in fast food industry.
Both African American victims had throats slit.

News articles found in "Information" thread here state that "all were found with high levels of alcohol and cocaine in their system" and all were known to "trade sex for drugs". This was stated before Brittany was found, so she is not included in "all".

All were residents of the south side of Jennings. ( I assume this means south of the RR tracks.)

Only 2-3 have been classified as homicides. Assume that Ernestine Lewis and Laconia Brown are 2 so classified, since their throats were slit. No information on identity of 3rd homicide victim.

All except Laconia Brown were found in advanced stages of decomposition. None died where they were found.

Authorities suspect drug connection to all victims.

Ages: 17,21,23,24,26,29,30.

Dates of body discovery: 5/05; 6/05; 3/07; 5/07; 5/08; 9/08; 11/08.

Brittany would have been 13 when first victims, Loretta (29) and Ernestine (30), were murdered and 16 when her best friend Muggy (23) was murdered.

Wait...all except Laconia Brown were found in advanced stages of decomp?!How is that possible?!

1. Loretta Lewis: last seen 5/17/05 ~ body found in canal 5/20/05 (3 days)
2. Ernestine Patterson : last seen 6/16/05 ~ body found in canal 6/18/05 (2 days)
3. Whitnei Dubois: last seen 5/10/07~ body found at intersection 5/12/07 (2 days)

Either someone (LE, MSM) isn't using the term "advanced decomposition" correctly, or these dates are not right.

Do we know the name/names of the person/persons reported to last see these 3 women? Because something here is...well...off.

Mountain_Kat
12-24-2012, 08:40 AM
Another observation that stands out: the only 2 victims reported to have had their throats slit also happen to be the only 2 black victims? Do I have that right? Laconia Brown was doused in bleach...was Ernestine Brown also doused in bleach? How about any of the other victims? If not, then what's the significance of Laconia being doused in bleach? To conceal evidence that would connect her to her killer? Then why wasn't anyone else doused in bleach? Was there no obvious connection the killer/killers were worried about?

It's odd.

Justiceforever
12-25-2012, 01:08 PM
Wait...all except Laconia Brown were found in advanced stages of decomp?!How is that possible?!

1. Loretta Lewis: last seen 5/17/05 ~ body found in canal 5/20/05 (3 days)
2. Ernestine Patterson : last seen 6/16/05 ~ body found in canal 6/18/05 (2 days)
3. Whitnei Dubois: last seen 5/10/07~ body found at intersection 5/12/07 (2 days)

Either someone (LE, MSM) isn't using the term "advanced decomposition" correctly, or these dates are not right.

Do we know the name/names of the person/persons reported to last see these 3 women? Because something here is...well...off.

http://jdpkiller.wordpress.com/2011/10/24/jdp-violent-crimes-synopsis/#more-3033

WD was last seen by her mother late on the night of May 10 2007. Her mother said that (her mothers) medication was missing and WD was supposidly going to FRs home on McKinley street.

I'll see if I can find answers to your other questions Kat. So good to see you here!

Justiceforever
12-25-2012, 02:48 PM
Wait...all except Laconia Brown were found in advanced stages of decomp?!How is that possible?!

1. Loretta Lewis: last seen 5/17/05 ~ body found in canal 5/20/05 (3 days)
2. Ernestine Patterson : last seen 6/16/05 ~ body found in canal 6/18/05 (2 days)
3. Whitnei Dubois: last seen 5/10/07~ body found at intersection 5/12/07 (2 days)

Either someone (LE, MSM) isn't using the term "advanced decomposition" correctly, or these dates are not right.

Do we know the name/names of the person/persons reported to last see these 3 women? Because something here is...well...off.

Good point! Do we know what the source is for that? Any links? Even with the heat and humidity it would take longer than two days for advanced decomp.
A few of the victims were found in canals.
The ones in water would have taken even longer than the ones in open air.
I do remember reading somewhere about aligator activity on the bodies (if I find it again I will link it) but that wouldn't have anything to do with decomp. Hmm.

Mountain_Kat
12-25-2012, 03:53 PM
Good point! Do we know what the source is for that? Any links? Even with the heat and humidity it would take longer than two days for advanced decomp.
A few of the victims were found in canals.
The ones in water would have taken even longer than the ones in open air.
I do remember reading somewhere about aligator activity on the bodies (if I find it again I will link it) but that wouldn't have anything to do with decomp. Hmm.

Alligator (or another other animal predation, for that matter) does affect rate of decomposition. So can the type of wound. Water can also increase/decrease decomp rate, depending on temp. But 2-3 days to reach a state of advanced decomp? Ummm...no.

I'm still getting my bearings on this case, and there's ALOT I don't yet know, but this jumped up and slapped me in the face, so I thought I'd comment.

Mountain_Kat
12-26-2012, 09:52 AM
Do we have any information regarding tatoos on these women? Any commonalities wrt tatoos?

Justiceforever
12-26-2012, 10:29 AM
Do we have any information regarding tatoos on these women? Any commonalities wrt tatoos?

That would be good to know. I've read nothing about tattoos. Zero Nada Zilch. Here or in MSm or anywhere for that matter. Of course that doesn't mean there were none. I'ma shoot out some PMs and a few emails later today and tommorrow to see if we can get some more people here who are familiar with the cases. Right now it's you and me Kat and admittedly I am not the sharpest sleuth in the drawer. ; )

Mountain_Kat
12-26-2012, 10:39 AM
That would be good to know. I've read nothing about tattoos. Zero Nada Zilch. Here or in MSm or anywhere for that matter. Of course that doesn't mean there were none. I'ma shoot out some PMs and a few emails later today and tommorrow to see if we can get some more people here who are familiar with the cases. Right now it's you and me Kat and admittedly I am not the sharpest sleuth in the drawer. ; )

Me either. But maybe we can pool our strengths and morph into 1 supersleuth! :floorlaugh:

Justiceforever
12-26-2012, 10:50 AM
Me either. But maybe we can pool our strengths and morph into 1 supersleuth! :floorlaugh:

:floorlaugh:
YES WE CAN!

Justiceforever
12-26-2012, 11:18 AM
Do we have any information regarding tatoos on these women? Any commonalities wrt tatoos?

http://digitopus.com/?p=926

Muggy's sister - Kendra - says Muggy feared for her life days before she went missing.
"She knew her time had come," Kendra Brown told a local news station after her sister's lifeless body was identified by tattoos once inked into her skin.


This is all I could find thus far about tattoos. No description however.

Mountain_Kat
12-27-2012, 05:54 PM
I take it none of these women owned vehicles?

CriminalMinds
12-28-2012, 08:53 PM
Another observation that stands out: the only 2 victims reported to have had their throats slit also happen to be the only 2 black victims? Do I have that right? Laconia Brown was doused in bleach...was Ernestine Brown also doused in bleach? How about any of the other victims? If not, then what's the significance of Laconia being doused in bleach? To conceal evidence that would connect her to her killer? Then why wasn't anyone else doused in bleach? Was there no obvious connection the killer/killers were worried about?

It's odd.

the bleaching is potentially symbolic, personal, and hatred-driven---same with the 2 black victims being slashed

Justiceforever
12-29-2012, 01:22 AM
the bleaching is potentially symbolic, personal, and hatred-driven---same with the 2 black victims being slashed

If it is true that one (or more?) of the victims were found with embalming fluid in her system (not sure if smoked or injected by another) then what that says to me (the bleaching) was that someone knew about forensic counter measures. IMHO

Mountain_Kat
12-29-2012, 07:19 AM
Here's what I can and can't say thus far...(bear in mind, I'm one of the new kids on the block):

1. Louisiana during the late spring and summer months provides ideal conditions to speed along decomposition. Having said that, no way several of these bodies were in such a state of decay after 2-3 days that c.o.d, physical evidence, etc. would have been completely eradicated.

2. We can not state that all (or any) of these victims were raped. That's not to say that they weren't raped, only that we don't know that they were raped. Serial killers are usually sexual predators who rape their victims prior to killing them.

3. The 2 black victims died from their throats being slit. None of the other victims died by this method (that we know of). Thought went into the dumping of Muggy Brown. My guess is that she was dumped on the shooting range and THEN doused in bleach. Most people don't just happen to have bleach in their vehicles. As to why she was doused in bleach, I doubt it was racially motivated. We have no evidence that Ernestine was also doused in bleach, do we? I think that whoever killed Muggy was smart enough to realize that they either left evidence on her body that would link her to them and had to get rid of it somehow, or they doused her in bleach to accelerate her decomposition. JMO.

4. I've read, from family member of 2 of the victims, that their loved one died of asphyxiation. In lay terms, asphyxiation means that death occured because no air was getting into the lungs and the body was deprived of sufficient oxygen. It does not always mean strangulation. Drowning, choking, smoke inhalation, drug overdose, crush injuries, manual suffocation and strangulation can all cause asphyxiation. At this point, with the scant information we've been given, we can not even state with certainty that these 2 victims were strangled.

5. There is much to connect these girls in life...all were known drug users, some or all were known to trade sex for drugs, all ran in the same circles, some were blood related. There's not much to connect them in death, though. Some were found clothed (or partially clothed), others were found naked. Some were dumped in water, some on roadways. Some had their throats slit, others didn't. 1 was doused in bleach, the others weren't (as far as we know). We don't even have evidence of rape to tie these girl together.

6. The only thing I can say with any certainty, at this point, is that all these women were murdered. Were they all murdered by the same person/persons? I have no idea.

CriminalMinds
12-29-2012, 08:22 PM
If it is true that one (or more?) of the victims were found with embalming fluid in her system (not sure if smoked or injected by another) then what that says to me (the bleaching) was that someone knew about forensic counter measures. IMHO

odd that there was advanced decomp for the canal vics--water and embalming fluid both slow decomp--exposure to air and bacteria speed up the process--the bleach is non-acidic(although it will damage tissue atfer prolonged exposure), so it would probably slow the process as well, since it would kill the surface bacteria that aids decomp--however, the bleach changes the skin pigment--the body being dumped at the gun range seems to indicate a type of taunt to police--could he be saying "since you couldn't punish this person, i did"?.....one person tied to this case in an outside way has a beef with at least one or two of the vics, as well as the police--body dump=two birds, one stone..?

Mountain_Kat
12-31-2012, 07:05 AM
Can anyone link me to these reports of embalming fluid? Thanks.

ktgirl
01-02-2013, 01:26 PM
I go back in forth thinking that these are possibilities:
- there's a single serial killer who likes killing women & kills the women who are vulnerable/available to him & got the victims all from the same circle, which he may or may not be a part of
- the women were killed because they all knew/witnessed something they shouldn't have in the eyes of the killer(s) or people who paid/coerced the killers into killing
- some of the women (the first victim or victims) were killed because they knew/witnessed something but the killer(s) discovered in the process that they liked killing & kept doing it, working within the same circle of friends so that everyone would think all the women were being killed for this reason and discovered these women's deaths didn't receive a lot of attention because of their perceived lifestyles
- there are actually 2 serial killers or two groups of killers at work- one killer/group of killers that killed women for knowing too much, the other killer/killers killed them because they're sick & enjoyed it.

It may seem stupid for a serial killer to kill only within a circle of friends/acquaintances/relatives, but it seems to have worked out well here, mainly because of these women's "lifestyles." Sigh.

CriminalMinds
01-02-2013, 09:00 PM
http://digitopus.com/?p=926

Muggy's sister - Kendra - says Muggy feared for her life days before she went missing.
"She knew her time had come," Kendra Brown told a local news station after her sister's lifeless body was identified by tattoos once inked into her skin.


This is all I could find thus far about tattoos. No description however.

me thinks we need to set up an individual thread/timeline for each victim, like in the other case--makes it easier to keep thoughs/info organized, and be able to add to it or alter what we "know" while discussing...thoughts on that JF/MK, hexe, ktgirl, and others??

Justiceforever
01-02-2013, 09:20 PM
me thinks we need to set up an individual thread/timeline for each victim, like in the other case--makes it easier to keep thoughs/info organized, and be able to add to it or alter what we "know" while discussing...thoughts on that JF/MK, hexe, ktgirl, and others??

I couldn't agree more! I was totally thinking the same thing but didn't want to bust out eight new threads without knowing what others think about the idea.

bessie
01-02-2013, 09:22 PM
Go ahead and open the threads if you want. Let me know if you need any help. I've bookmarked a ton of information over the years, so I might be able to fill in some blanks for you.

CriminalMinds
01-02-2013, 09:50 PM
Go ahead and open the threads if you want. Let me know if you need any help. I've bookmarked a ton of information over the years, so I might be able to fill in some blanks for you.

awesome, ty

bessie
01-03-2013, 12:03 AM
odd that there was advanced decomp for the canal vics--water and embalming fluid both slow decomp--exposure to air and bacteria speed up the process--the bleach is non-acidic(although it will damage tissue atfer prolonged exposure), so it would probably slow the process as well, since it would kill the surface bacteria that aids decomp--however, the bleach changes the skin pigment--the body being dumped at the gun range seems to indicate a type of taunt to police--could he be saying "since you couldn't punish this person, i did"?.....one person tied to this case in an outside way has a beef with at least one or two of the vics, as well as the police--body dump=two birds, one stone..?

Temperature and humidity are the two most significant variables in the timing of decomposition. Additionally, water's postmortem effect can differ greatly depending upon temperature, salinity (decay progresses at a faster pace in freshwater than saltwater), the depth of the body in the water, and the body's relative location to land. A rainfall outlet canal in south Louisiana during most months of the year is teeming with aquatic and terrestrial insects. Alligators and even bull sharks can be found in these canals. It's not at all unusual to read that the body of a missing person located only 2-3 days later is unrecognizable and in a state of advanced decay.

http://www.bio-ops.net/WEBSITE%20DOCUMENTS2/BIO-OPS%20-%20HUMAN%20DECOMPOSITION%20FACT%20SHEET%20-%20UNHILIGHTED.pdf

Putrefaction refers to the decomposition of the body because of bacteria and fermentation. Although this process can take longer in water-submerged victims, these individuals may remain concealed longer when they become hidden in water or vegetation or lost in a large body of water; this results in correspondingly advanced postmortem changes before recovery. No time schedule for the stages of decomposition exists as differing water and climatic conditions will have a profound effect. Generally, cold and swiftly moving water preserves bodies, whereas heavy clothing and stagnant, warm water hasten decomposition.

http://www2.fbi.gov/publications/leb/2006/feb2006/feb2006leb.htm

While placement in water affected the rate of decomposition, placement in freshwater made the specimens decompose much faster than those on the surface of the ground or placed in saltwater, at least in the summer environment of central Texas.

https://digital.library.txstate.edu/handle/10877/4078

Justiceforever
01-03-2013, 12:00 PM
Go ahead and open the threads if you want. Let me know if you need any help. I've bookmarked a ton of information over the years, so I might be able to fill in some blanks for you.

Thanks Bessie. Perhaps we could all take one victim. I'll start with Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis. Any help I can get is MUCH appreciated because I am working on a smartphone which is very limiting. TIA

Hexe
01-03-2013, 01:07 PM
Thanks Bessie. Perhaps we could all take one victim. I'll start with Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis. Any help I can get is MUCH appreciated because I am working on a smartphone which is very limiting. TIA

Okay, so I'm taking Ernestine Patterson. Let's get to work!

ktgirl
01-03-2013, 01:08 PM
me thinks we need to set up an individual thread/timeline for each victim, like in the other case--makes it easier to keep thoughs/info organized, and be able to add to it or alter what we "know" while discussing...thoughts on that JF/MK, hexe, ktgirl, and others??

Awesome idea!

Mountain_Kat
01-05-2013, 09:19 AM
Help me understand why she may be connected. I am working on Muggy's thread and my brain is fried right now (info. overload). If you can explain before I can figure it out. I would love if we (you or I) could post it on her thread. TIA

610 Andrews St is the alleged drug house associated with all the victims, as well as Teresa Gary and Frankie Richard. Now, Brown is certainly a common enough name, but...what are the odds Sherill Brown and Muggy Brown aren't related, but just happen to share the same name and are each assoiciated with the same house on Andrews St?

Also...someone asked earlier about the LE officer who found Muggy Brown. I have heard that it was Mike Janise, but have absolutely no way to confirm the truth of that. Take it with a bucket of salt.

nugzter
01-05-2013, 09:49 AM
Question, Has any one noticed that the African American girls had their throats slit? Is that a factual statement? If so, that is a HUGE clue to the race and mentality of the killer.

Mountain_Kat
01-05-2013, 11:14 AM
Question, Has any one noticed that the African American girls had their throats slit? Is that a factual statement? If so, that is a HUGE clue to the race and mentality of the killer.

It's factual that the 2 black victims had their throats slit, yes. It's never been reported that any of the other victims had their throats slit, although, there hasn't been any official cod listed for any of the other victims except for Necole Guillory, I believe.

Read through the "Victims" thread when you get a chance. It's a pretty quick read, and should catch you up on the basics.

CriminalMinds
01-05-2013, 08:37 PM
Question, Has any one noticed that the African American girls had their throats slit? Is that a factual statement? If so, that is a HUGE clue to the race and mentality of the killer.

yes, yes, and YES

Mountain_Kat
01-07-2013, 10:06 AM
http://www.kplctv.com/global/video/flash/popupplayer.asp?ClipID1=4251573&h1=Segment%201%20-%20Unsolved%3A%20Mystery%20in%20Jeff%20Davis%20Par ish&vt1=v&at1=News&d1=690000&LaunchPageAdTag=Search%20Results&activePane=info&rnd=74195593

According to this, Crystal Benoit Zeno, Bittney Gary, and Necole Guillory all died from some sort of asphyxiation. These were the last 3 victims found.

Ernestine Daniels Patterson (vic #2) and Laconia "Muggy" Brown (vic # 5) were the only two african-american victims, both had their throats slit, and both had ties to Lawrence Nixon.

The body of Loretta Chaisson Lewis (vic # 1) was too decomposed to determine cause of death. Same goes for Kristin Gary Lopez (vic # 3) and Whitney Dubois (vic # 4). Loretta was only dead a maximum of 3 days, and Whitnei a maximum of 2 days, yet both bodies were so decomposed a cause of death couldn't be determine?! Even though Whitnei was found not in water, but on an isolated road?! Cmon.

It's interesting that Kristin's mother recounts that Kristin was called in for questioning when Loretta Lewis was found. It's also interesting that Frankie Richard was questioned in the deaths of Loretta, Kristin and Whitnei.

But anyway...considering the above, is it not somewhat reasonable to consider that we're not looking at one killer here, but possibly 2 (or even or 3?)

Mountain_Kat
01-18-2013, 04:00 AM
Decided to take a look at the murders by year and date.

2005
May 17, 2005 (Tues) Loretta Lewis last seen.
May 20, 2005 (Fri.) Loretta Lewis' body found in canal.
June 16, 2005 (Thurs.) Ernestine Patterson last seen
June 18, 2005 (Sat.) Ernestine Patterson's body found in canal
* Note: both murders occurred within 1 month of each other

2007
March 6, 2007 (Tues.) Kristin Gary Lopez last seen
March 18, 2007 (Sun.) Kristin Gary Lopez' body found in a canal
May 10, 2007 (Thurs.) Whitnei Dubois last seen
May 12, 2007 (Sat.) Whitnei Dubois' body discovered in middle of a rural road.
*Note: The murders of Kristin and Whitnei occurred within 2 months of one another. Almost 2 years went by between the last murder on 2005 and the first murder on 2007.

2008
May 27, 2008 (Tues. evening) Laconia "Muggy" Brown last seen by grandmother.
May 28, 2008 (Weds. 2:00 am) Muggy Brown's body is discovered by a police officer on a
rural road near a police shooting range.
August 29, 2008 (Fri.) Crystal Benoit Zeno last seen.
Sept. 11, 2008 (Thurs. approx. 3pm) Crystal Zeno's body discovered by hunters in
a dry irrigation canal off Lacour Rd.
Nov. 2, 2008 (Sun. @5:30pm) Brittney Gary last seen on surv. cam at Family Dollar
Nov. 15, 2008 (Sat. @ approx. 12:30 pm) Brittney Gary's body discovered by member of
family search party on the side of Keystone Rd.
*Note: All 3 murders occured within 5 months of each other. Roughly 1 year passed between the last murder in 2007, and the first murder in 2008. Of all 7 victims at this point, Brittney Gary was the only murder to occur in the Fall.

2009
August 16, 2009 (Sun.) Necole Guillory last seen
August 19, 2009 (Weds. approximately 1:30 pm) Guillory's mother files missing report
August 19, 2009 (Weds. approximately 2:30 pm) Necole Guillory's body found
*Note: Necole is the only known victim in 2009. Her murder occurred approx. 9 months after the last murder in 2008.

For those who entertain the serial killer theory, it's interesting to note that the 2005 murders occurred in a 1 month period. No known murders in 2006. The 2007 murders occurred over a period of 2 months, and the 2008 murders occurred over a period of roughly 6 months. So you could argue that there's an escalation pattern after a period of dormancy. Don't know that I'd argue that, but you could. It might be interesting to look at similar murders in nearby states between Nov. 2008 and August 2009. :dunno:

Not sure how illuminating this info is, but it helps me to see it laid out, so there ya go.

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