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DotsEyes
03-17-2009, 02:17 PM
I opened this thread for all the maps, photos of the victims, players, and to try to coordinate victim home addresses, employment adddresses and body locations all in one spot. I will try to bring over this information from the main thread as it is lost amongst the posts. All help will be apprecitated.

DotsEyes
03-17-2009, 02:57 PM
Here's a map (sorry it's so big).....they're both very close to I-10.
Sonic - 1518 Elton Rd
Wendy's - 1701 Elton Rd


http://i39.tinypic.com/k0rhir.jpg

Here is a map of Jennings and locations of 2 of the fast food places.

DotsEyes
03-17-2009, 03:03 PM
Hope I'm not boring ya'll :blowkiss:
I've been staring at the maps since we discussed locations quite a bit today. I'm getting the impression whoever did this was under some kind of time constraint.....as far as disposing of the bodies. That's why they're within a ten-mile radius of each other.....most of them less than that. It may have been someone that couldn't risk being gone for long or very far away.

Also, look up close at the proximity of victims 2, 4 & 6 :eek:.

Those tags are not the EXACT spot the bodies were found....they're as close as I can get them with what info is available. I think they're close though. You can also see the "lay-of-the-land".

http://i41.tinypic.com/3536rdz.jpg

Victim #2 - Ernestine Marie Daniels Patterson - Found 6/?/05
Victim #4 - Whitnei Charlene Dubois - Found 5/?/07
Victim #6 - Crystal Benoit Zeno - Found 9/11/08

Thanks to Mahmoo for the great map.

DotsEyes
03-17-2009, 04:16 PM
What's interesting is how far out victim 3's body was taken in relation to the others :confused:.

http://i44.tinypic.com/sgtmz9.jpg

Another great map by Mahmoo.

Thanks!

Hi ya'll

I've been staring at the maps again too........lol. I'm still convinced the killer is someone local........they know that area well. Looks to me like they're using SR1126 as their primary route of choice. More than likely they're using Hwy 26 to get to 1126. If you look at the map.....all of the locations (except 3) are easily accessible from 1126.

I'll post this map for you to look at.........look along 1126.....victims 1, 2, 6 and 7 form almost a straight line across......all just south of 1126.

__________________

Another great map by Mahmoo.

Victim #1 - Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis. Found 5/?/05.
Victim #2 - Ernestine Marie Daniel Patterson. Found 6/?/05.
Victim #3 - Kristen Elizabeth Gary Lopez. Found 3/?/07.
Victim #4 - Whitnei Charlene Dubois. Found 5/?/07.
Victim #5 - Laconia Shontel 'Muggy' Brown. Found 5/?/08.
Victim #6 - Crystal Benoit Zeno. Found 9//1//08.
Victim #7 - Brittany Gary. Found 11/?/08.

NOTE: Crystal (#6) worked at Sonic Burger in Lake Arthur. Her husband was friends with Kristan Lopez' (#3) husband.

Mountain_Kat
12-25-2012, 07:35 AM
A few questions and observations:

~Do we have the home addresses of any of the victims?
~Who do we know who (victim, family, POI) might have lived on Thornwell , or any of the roads directly off Thomwell?
~ The Sonic in Lake Arthur where Crystal worked...is this the same Sonic where Loretta Lewis hung out?
~ It's curious that body # 3 is found so far from the other bodies. However, if you create a mental loop from Lake Arthur, up 26, over to 1126, and down 99 , your eye immediately goes to Thornwell. I find that highly interesting.

Mountain_Kat
12-25-2012, 08:32 AM
My bad, Thornwell is a place, not a rd. I guess I mean 380?

Justiceforever
12-25-2012, 01:14 PM
A few questions and observations:

~Do we have the home addresses of any of the victims?
~Who do we know who (victim, family, POI) might have lived on Thornwell , or any of the roads directly off Thomwell?
~ The Sonic in Lake Arthur where Crystal worked...is this the same Sonic where Loretta Lewis hung out?
~ It's curious that body # 3 is found so far from the other bodies. However, if you create a mental loop from Lake Arthur, up 26, over to 1126, and down 99 , your eye immediately goes to Thornwell. I find that highly interesting.

As per your third question:
In the victims thread ( page one )

The Victims - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Doteyes says that Loretta hung out at local Sonic PRESUMED to be in Jennings

and that

Crystal worked at Sonic IN Lake Arthur.

This is the address of a Sonic in Jennings

http://1488775.dinehere.us/

Could there be some confusion because the Sonic IN Jennings is ON Lake Arthur Ave?

Could be the same Sonic.

I'll keep looking.

Hexe
12-26-2012, 05:14 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/8EUyS

A map showing the Lyon Airport (A) and, approximately, the place where Kristen Lopez's body was found (B).

Justiceforever
12-26-2012, 05:35 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/8EUyS

A map showing the Lyon Airport (A) and, approximately, the place where Kristen Lopez's body was found (B).

Thanks. I'm having a hard time with that link : ( It doesn't show point A and point B at least not at my end. I did find it however on another map. I am sooo not a map person! I'm not sure what it means but it may mean something that all the bodies are near airports.

Hexe
12-26-2012, 06:13 PM
Thanks. I'm having a hard time with that link : ( It doesn't show point A and point B at least not at my end. I did find it however on another map. I am sooo not a map person! I'm not sure what it means but it may mean something that all the bodies are near airports.

I just knew something won't be working. Okay, here's the screenshot.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ib93mlUY3q4/UNt10VcuICI/AAAAAAAACIc/vpi5n0iwzOE/s887/%2527Lyon%2520Airport%2520do%2520Cherokee%2520Rd%2 520-%2520Mapy%2520Google932.jpg

Justiceforever
12-26-2012, 06:19 PM
I just knew something won't be working. Okay, here's the screenshot.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ib93mlUY3q4/UNt10VcuICI/AAAAAAAACIc/vpi5n0iwzOE/s887/%2527Lyon%2520Airport%2520do%2520Cherokee%2520Rd%2 520-%2520Mapy%2520Google932.jpg

Perfect! Thank you.

Mountain_Kat
12-26-2012, 07:16 PM
I always like to do a streetview run through areas of interest (helps me get a feel for the area). I had just started my run from Family Dollar (since one vic was last seen there, and another was last seen at the Phillips 66 across the street), when I noticed a nearby business at 307 Plaquemine St. Richard Welding Equiptment.

Interesting.

Justiceforever
12-26-2012, 08:25 PM
I always like to do a streetview run through areas of interest (helps me get a feel for the area). I had just started my run from Family Dollar (since one vic was last seen there, and another was last seen at the Phillips 66 across the street), when I noticed a nearby business at 307 Plaquemine St. Richard Welding Equiptment.

Interesting.

Can you link it for poor lil ole me? Call me slow...why is this interesting? When it comes to maps, dates, numbers of any kind I need it spelled out! ; )

I just got done listening to this. What I want to know is how is MD so sure tha WD went to FR's after stealing her mothers pills. I believe him but he doesn't back it up. How does he know that?

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/behindtheyellowtape/2011/09/17/a-serial-killer-in-jennings-louisiana-part-12

Mountain_Kat
12-26-2012, 09:59 PM
Haven't listened to that yet, Justice. I'll listen tonight or tomorrow. Thanks for the link.

Justiceforever
12-27-2012, 10:54 AM
I always like to do a streetview run through areas of interest (helps me get a feel for the area). I had just started my run from Family Dollar (since one vic was last seen there, and another was last seen at the Phillips 66 across the street), when I noticed a nearby business at 307 Plaquemine St. Richard Welding Equiptment.

Interesting.

I guess you can't link a streetveiw can you? :blushing:

What was interesting about that business?

Mountain_Kat
12-27-2012, 12:14 PM
Another great map by Mahmoo.

Thanks!

Hi ya'll

I've been staring at the maps again too........lol. I'm still convinced the killer is someone local........they know that area well. Looks to me like they're using SR1126 as their primary route of choice. More than likely they're using Hwy 26 to get to 1126. If you look at the map.....all of the locations (except 3) are easily accessible from 1126.

I'll post this map for you to look at.........look along 1126.....victims 1, 2, 6 and 7 form almost a straight line across......all just south of 1126.

__________________

Another great map by Mahmoo.

Victim #1 - Loretta Lynn Chaisson Lewis. Found 5/?/05.
Victim #2 - Ernestine Marie Daniel Patterson. Found 6/?/05.
Victim #3 - Kristen Elizabeth Gary Lopez. Found 3/?/07.
Victim #4 - Whitnei Charlene Dubois. Found 5/?/07.
Victim #5 - Laconia Shontel 'Muggy' Brown. Found 5/?/08.
Victim #6 - Crystal Benoit Zeno. Found 9//1//08.
Victim #7 - Brittany Gary. Found 11/?/08.

NOTE: Crystal (#6) worked at Sonic Burger in Lake Arthur. Her husband was friends with Kristan Lopez' (#3) husband.

Can anyone confirm the location of vic #2 as being correct? The map here has it further down 26.

http://jdpkiller.wordpress.com/maps/

Mountain_Kat
12-27-2012, 12:17 PM
I guess you can't link a streetveiw can you? :blushing:

What was interesting about that business?

Business has the same surname as POI Frankie Richard, so I have to wonder if this business is owned by a family member. It's VERY close to Family Dollar (where one victim was last seen) and Phillips 66 ( where another victim was last seen).

Mountain_Kat
12-27-2012, 12:19 PM
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&gs_mss=phillips+66+je&cp=23&gs_id=2l&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.eWU&bpcl=40096503&biw=1152&bih=693&wrapid=tljp1356625064419044&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=phillips+66+jennings+LA&fb=1&gl=us&hq=phillips+66&hnear=0x863b5980c57268c9:0xd185ff0994a8abcc,Jennin gs,+LA&cid=0,0,5527005358518327713&sa=X&ei=sXTcULCDGYSS9QT8soDwBA&sqi=2&ved=0CHQQ_BIwAA


Click on streetview for Phillips 66. Travel down the road between Shopping Center (with FDS, Sally's Beauty Supply, etc) and Phillips 66. On the right, past the drug store you'll see Richard Welding Equiptment.

Justiceforever
12-27-2012, 05:13 PM
Business has the same surname as POI Frankie Richard, so I have to wonder if this business is owned by a family member. It's VERY close to Family Dollar (where one victim was last seen) and Phillips 66 ( where another victim was last seen).

Ya know that's what I though you were thinking ; ) Thanks for the link to streetview. Anyway that you know of to find out about the owner and if they are related to (so far) my favorite poi?

Mountain_Kat
12-27-2012, 06:52 PM
Well, the founder is listed as "TJ Richard". Older gent. I doubt he's still working, might not even be living any longer. You could try doing a property search (hint hint).

Justiceforever
12-29-2012, 02:27 AM
Well, the founder is listed as "TJ Richard". Older gent. I doubt he's still working, might not even be living any longer. You could try doing a property search (hint hint).


Lol you got the wrong tool in the tool box for that! ; ) When it comes to property/real estates search, maps, dates uggh I'm no good. Working on it tho! I wanna be like the supersleuths when I grow up ; )

Mountain_Kat
12-29-2012, 08:24 AM
My forte is mapping and a pragmatic mind. ;-)

But, try here if you want to bone up on your internet sluething skills.

Internet Sleuthing Tips - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Justiceforever
12-29-2012, 08:50 AM
My forte is mapping and a pragmatic mind. ;-)

But, try here if you want to bone up on your internet sluething skills.

Internet Sleuthing Tips - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=232)

Thanks alot Kat! : )

Mountain_Kat
01-01-2013, 02:35 PM
The house on e spencer street (where search warrant was issued in connection with Muggy Brown) is <modsnip> E Spencer St.

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=258+e+spencer+st+jennings+la&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x863b5982db2e67e5:0xfd1022d640150b1e,258+E+ Spencer+St,+Jennings,+LA+70546&gl=us&ei=0ivjUMmIK4ic9gTVuoGIDw&sqi=2&ved=0CDAQ8gEwAA

Mountain_Kat
01-07-2013, 02:09 PM
Here's a map with street view of the Budget Inn where Frankie Richard says he was staying when Kristin Lopez went missing. According to him, Kristin, Tracee and Connie Silar were kicked out of his room and left in Connie Siler's silver truck (this is the same truck that was later brought from inmate Siler by detective Warren Gary. Gary washed that truck and sold it for a pofit to someone in California, I believe.)

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.eWU&bpcl=40096503&biw=1152&bih=693&wrapid=tlif135758191596010&q=15368+Louisiana+26,+Jennings,+LA+70546&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x863b5bb3d8f4fc7b:0xd46041a6a064a76e,15368+ Louisiana+26,+Jennings,+LA+70546&gl=us&sa=X&ei=VQ7rUOf-MZG-9gTqqIGwCg&ved=0CC8Q8gEwAA

Mountain_Kat
01-08-2013, 08:27 AM
Here's a pic of the infamous Andrews St House. It's the brown house with the silver vehicle in front.

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&gs_mss=610+andrews+st+je&cp=26&gs_id=2w&xhr=t&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&bvm=bv.1357316858,d.eWU&biw=1152&bih=693&wrapid=tljp1357647854261050&q=610+andrews+st+jennings+la&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x863b59790cc8d7c3:0x4eb5ad4f5ec75310,610+S+ Andrew+St,+Jennings,+LA+70546&gl=us&sa=X&ei=8g_sUILnLpSs8QSUhYHIAg&sqi=2&ved=0CC8Q8gEwAA

According to locals, Teresa Gary was also known to hang out at the house across the street, the one with the white lattice work.

Mountain_Kat
01-08-2013, 08:44 PM
There is a known sex offender (aggravated rape) who lives on E Spencer St named E**** P*****. I'm now wondering if he might be the occupant of the E Spencer St house associated with Muggy Brown. There is also a 50 year old male with the last surname listed as an occupant.

The address is different from the address of the house given on google street view, but I've seen google screw up street numbers many times, so...I don't know.