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FifthEssence
03-31-2009, 10:38 PM
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FifthEssence
03-31-2009, 10:45 PM
COPIED over from previous Thread # 9
Defense's request for private meeting with Judge Stan Strickland
MOTION TO SEEK EX PARTE HEARING
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-03/45901273.pdf
Story:http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-hearing-033109,0,7397632.story
It appears the date and time of the fax transmission above is the time the Orlando Sentinel faxed the Motion internally over to the department that maintains the stories online.
We'll have to keep looking for another copy from a news source in order to get the actual time Baez sent the Motion to the court house.
ishouldbworking
04-01-2009, 09:42 AM
COPIED over from previous Thread # 9
It appears the date and time of the fax transmission above is the time the Orlando Sentinel faxed the Motion internally over to the department that maintains the stories online.
We'll have to keep looking for another copy from a news source in order to get the actual time Baez sent the Motion to the court house.
I was just going to note that the faxes that come directly from Baez usually say the Baez Law Firm at the top...hopefully to save Angel from searching for old motions.
salvarenga
04-01-2009, 09:53 AM
Header at the top is the date the Orlando Sentinel faxed the document to someone to post it to the web (see cover sheet). It is time stamped by the court as being received on 3/30 but the time is obscured by the type of the page. I will see if I can blow up the page and get a better view of the time stamp. Does anyone else have photoshop, etc. that they could use to try to decipher the stamp?
FifthEssence
04-01-2009, 11:43 AM
Header at the top is the date the Orlando Sentinel faxed the document to someone to post it to the web (see cover sheet). It is time stamped by the court as being received on 3/30 but the time is obscured by the type of the page. I will see if I can blow up the page and get a better view of the time stamp. Does anyone else have photoshop, etc. that they could use to try to decipher the stamp?
Ask and you shall receive~
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/EXParteMotintime.jpg
best I could do w/Photoshop. Appears to be either 1:1_ pm or 4:1_ pm on 3/30/09
What do you think? I lean toward the latter part of the day. Seems Baez faxes are sent out late most afternoons.
According to an article by the Orlando Sentinel the document was filed "late Monday".
Here is a link http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-casey-anthony-baez-040109,0,199041.story
When I enlarged the text it looked to me like 4:15, I asked another person in my house and they also said 4:15.
Sorry if I have done the link wrong - I don't post often but I remembered reading that article and thought it might be helpful.
By the way, I love this thread and read here often.
Thank you to all here who work so hard on these charts to keep us informed.
ishouldbworking
04-01-2009, 12:20 PM
im going to go with 4:15...since that's around his usual time and the article does say - late in the day...
The request was denied
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-baez-motion-040109,0,6432933.story
ishouldbworking
04-01-2009, 12:56 PM
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/033109baezmotion/1/lg/Motion_to_Seek_Ex_Parte_Hearing_Page_1.htm
sent from Baez Law Firm @ 3:48pm...
Oldsoul2
04-01-2009, 01:00 PM
Excuse my francais but...WHAT is Baez doing???? I really don't think I would ever use him for a defense. Has anyone seen any of the articles on the web about baezs' cases he has already tried....believe he's trying to use the same tactics that didn't work the last time...I believe they were on Orlando Sentinel....they were emailed to me...I'll go find them
Angel Who Cares
04-01-2009, 01:06 PM
Here is another copy of the motion Baez filed from CFNEWS13 & the Judges denial for his motion!
The day Baez faxed it says 03/30/09 at 15:48! It has the stamp from Baez's fax machine with his law firm name present on this document link!!
DEFENSE: Motion to Seek Ex Parte Hearing
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Motion%20to%20Seek%20Ex%20Parte%20Hearing.pdf
JUDGE STRICKLAND'S RESPONSE: Order Denying Defendant's Motion to Seek Ex Parte Hearing
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Order%20Denying%20Defendant's%20Motion%20to%20Seek %20Ex%20Parte%20Hearing.pdf
Oldsoul2
04-01-2009, 01:15 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-locbaez28032809mar28,0,7003317.story
salvarenga
04-01-2009, 01:21 PM
Turns out it was faxed over from Baez's office at 3:48 PM on 3/30. However, here is a link to both Baez's motion and the judge's motion DENYING his request. Poor Baez he just can't get anything to go his way. LOL!
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/033109baezmotion/indexGallery.htm
LOL, we were all posting at the same time.
Angel Who Cares
04-03-2009, 02:25 PM
FYI: Doc Dump coming MONDAY 3-discs were handed over to Baez today! :winko: Article posted in the Astro Time-Stamped Thread. :woohoo:
:grouphug:
:angel:
ishouldbworking
04-03-2009, 02:36 PM
its about time! where is tuba? we need to send out a search party to let her know more of her papers have been released!
Green-Eyed Blonde
04-03-2009, 06:27 PM
FYI: Doc Dump coming MONDAY 3-discs were handed over to Baez today! :winko: Article posted in the Astro Time-Stamped Thread. :woohoo:
:grouphug:
:angel:
As always, Thank you kindly, Angel Who Cares, for keeping us updated each day. :) Hoping there's lots of info in this next batch!
Angel Who Cares
04-03-2009, 07:10 PM
Your Welcome Fifth, Tuba, Green-Eyed Blonde, Oldsoul2, ishouldbeworking & everyone else who has given me thanks! :blowkiss:
FOX is reporting the discs include: video of police interviews, color pictures from Casey Anthony's photobucket account, as well as more documents. :woohoo:
Also reported on WESH news: Baez is planning to file for a hearing next week to block the release of the jail video of Casey filmed on Dec. 11, 2008!
Wow!!!!! :crazy: Next week sure looks to be busy for everyone! :clap: :woohoo:
Now I have to finish the last doc dump this weekend!!! :wink: I'm a slow reader but am HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY that it will have VIDEO of the police interviews! I feel audio interviews are more telling when you can hear the responses & if they hesitate answering questions etc. I will skip reading any of the police interviews I didn't finish, with my :crossfingers: that they are the ones included in this doc dump!
Also a reminder that Cindy & George's depos are on Thursday too!
Looks like a very busy week for our devoted astrologers & sleuthers! :blowkiss:
:grouphug:'s & :rose:'s for all of our astrologers & Fifthessence!
:angel:
My memory is that during ths time when Baez was silent on the issue, he rec'd and had time to view & study the jail video. So, he has made a decision that it is harmful to the defense of Prisoner's case or he would not be filing this new motion. We need to watch for the date and the hour. This time, I believe he will be granted a hearing.
As you all remember, the Anthony depositions will be held on the Full Moon.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/DepositionOnFullMoon028.jpg
Intuiton tells me the original time of day set for the Anthony depostions is an hour of convenience for the parties. Due to sheer good luck, if this is untrue, the horoscope still reveals the aspects of the Full Moon which culminates during this very hour.
Mercury, ruler of the Ascendant, is trine Pluto. Hidden knowledge, heretofore withheld, emerges through astute questioning. No one is more persuasive than Jupiter conjunct Neptune. He insinuates passage through to the The Facts via a winding way. This is the strong period of the year for Aries John Morgan.
The daughter is House 5, of course, ruled by Venus and the solstice point for Venus is 29:25 Virgo opposite Prisoner's own natal Sun. Venus also rules the past or what has come before. She is at a critical degree. Important Full Moon lunar node conjunct Cindy's own Moon and afflicting Mercury on the lunar node of Prisoner. The accused will not benefit from today's revelations.
Critical degree for the prisoner tells us her situation blows up due to her obstruction and obstinacy. Circumstances are exigent, grave and climactic for her and her frustration is boundless.
salvarenga
04-05-2009, 08:54 AM
My memory is that during ths time when Baez was silent on the issue, he rec'd and had time to view & study the jail video. So, he has made a decision that it is harmful to the defense of Prisoner's case or he would not be filing this new motion. We need to watch for the date and the hour. This time, I believe he will be granted a hearing.
As you all remember, the Anthony depositions will be held on the Full Moon.
Tuba, you are correct. He was to be given the video tape shortly after the last hearing. So yes, there must have been something in it he didn't like. However, I don't know that the he filed the motion in a timely manner. I need to go back and look at the hearing from that day. But I am almost certain that they had it ready for him on the day of the hearing. If so, then according to the judges order, he did not file his motion in time.
From the My Clerk website:
03/02/09 - ORDER DEFENDANTS MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER IS TAKEN UNDER ADVISEMENT, COURT STAYS THE RELEASE OF THE VIDEO UNTIL DEFENSE ATTORNEY HAS TIME TO VIEW IT. DEFENSE ATTORNEY HAS 15 DAYS AFTER VIEWING THE VIDEO TO FILE PROTECTIVE ORDER MOTION
Even if they did not provide the video until that Friday(03/06/09), that still would have given him 15 work days (M-F) before the end of March. Could the state not argue that the motion is late so it is moot?
The motion could be refused a hearing if he violated the order by filing late. We need to find when the state supplied it, yes.
magic-cat
04-06-2009, 12:39 AM
On a bed of nails I wait...
for April the 15th...
a day which has been predicted to be a day that Casey will wish had never dawned.:behindbar
So happy more docs are forthcoming soon! Thanks angel!:blowkiss: for always letting us know what is happening with this case. Many times your updates are all I need. I appreciate your efforts!
Busy busy busy week! Thank GOD! I have been squirming for new info!:)
Angel Who Cares
04-06-2009, 09:01 AM
The motion could be refused a hearing if he violated the order by filing late. We need to find when the state supplied it, yes.
Tuba Here is when Baez picked up the video tapes! He had 15 days from picking up the tapes to file to block the release of them, ordered by Baez in the hearing about them. According to the County Clerk Records he NEVER filed the motion!! :bang: The subheadlines in this article was added as an edit: Last edited by Angel Who Cares; 03-04-2009 at 07:56 PM. Reason: Added Subheadlines In Article because of thier importance!
UPDATED: Casey Anthony Could Still Face Death Penalty
Posted: 4:48 pm EST March 4, 2009
Updated: 5:44 pm EST March 4, 2009
CASEY'S ATTORNEY PICKS UP JAILHOUSE VIDEO
The clock is now ticking for Casey Anthony's attorney to block a jail house video from being released. Baez picked up a copy and is now reviewing the tape. He has two weeks to ask a judge to seal it.
http://www.wftv.com/news/18855221/detail.html
I hope this helps you out! :blowkiss:
Ready for a busy week everyone? Doc dumps, depos, & a possible hearing filed by Baez (LATE to try to block again!) to block the release of the videos! :woohoo:
Thanks :grouphug:
:angel:
Angel Who Cares
04-06-2009, 12:07 PM
Documents & Videos are being updated & posted as they are released in the Time-Stamped thread! Happy Monday! :woohoo:
:angel:
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/BaezObtainsJailTape030.jpg
The is the event chart for the visit Jose Baez paid to Orange County jail in order to obtain the video of his client as she reacted to discovery of a skeleton on Suburban Drive. The chart reveals jail policy and personnel were without fault. The public wins.
Angel Who Cares
04-06-2009, 07:34 PM
:woohoo: Whoops Sorry Baez! :woohoo:
Hours after the release of three DVDs of evidence, Danielle Tavernier, a spokeswoman for the State Attorneys office, said that audio interviews with Orange County Corrections officers -- Sgt. Billy Richardson and Lt. Tammy Unser -- were errantly released. They are both part of a motion by Casey Anthony's defense not to be made public, but Orange County Circuit Judge Stan Strickland has yet to rule on the recordings.
Tavernier asked media outlets not to publish the recordings. The Orlando Sentinel decided to publish the audio and the contents of the interview because we obtained the information lawfully.
Orlando Sentinel says in the article they didn't release them but they did as well as others did! :woohoo:
I Added This to my post Tuesday April 7th!
Now they are saying Baez filed a block last week on this motion about the release of these & the video. I'll check the Orange Co Clerk Records again to see what day he could have possibly filed the motion. He would have still been way past the due date of the 15 days from the date he received the videos! :waitsec:
:angel:
The video would provide more information but we can exercise imagination to fill in the pictorial on the audio tapes, which are detailed. The only missing factor is the prisoner's facial expression, not described in full. Now that these audios have been released, suppression of the remaining visuals is rather moot and pointless.
One thing we do know, the accusation that private medical data was divulged proved groundless and untrue.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/AnthonyApprehendedontheRoad031.jpg
This chart is for the apprehension of Anthony after her car had run an unmarked police vehicle off the road. The vehicle then switched on flashing lights and pulled her over. Conversation ensued inside the vehicle. Anthony aways had the option to elect mutual reception with Uranus. In custody, she is Neptune at crisis, 21° Fixed Sign is a critical degree. She is just into the 12th House of incarceration but by exchange with Uranus, she would be in House 1, speaking instead of withholding and invoking her privilege to say nothing under advice of counsel. Saturn would oppose her and that she is unwilling to confront, the price for the crime she committed (Saturn rules the House of Past Acts here, 12.) So she chooses the seclusion and retreat of jail, Sun trine Neptune in H. 12, Moon sextile Neptune in H. 12. To her, that is the easy election, withdraw and say nothing. In coming months, we see her waive her right to appear over and over until the judge compels her presence in court.
aksleuth
04-07-2009, 08:11 PM
I'm just catching up here. Thanks, Tuba, for the charts. Thanks for the docs links, Angel.
So, what I'm reading is Baez has been lax in his defense strategy by NOT filing his motion against release of various "incriminating" documents? As much as this guy likes to file motions, I'm a bit surprised he didn't proceed to the courthouse as soon as the videos and other evidence were placed into his possession. Can he have other things on his mind, such as dealing with the many Bar Association inquiries he's had recently?
Seems, though, he is allowing these items to slip into media hands (and ours) so his client will have an appeal strategy later down the road....."My attorney was incompetent...." Would he do such a thing? Would he jeopardize his professional reputation for the likes of KC? :eek: :waitasec:
Some of the defense lawyers commenting on this case have put out the notion that the huge reaction of Prisoner when the skeleton was discovered might work to her benefit, making her seem more human and susceptible. Until we see the video, we can't agree or disagree.
Baez has viewed the tapes extensively and may have decided they are helpful to his client for whom he will not sacrifice himself. I should add that since Baez exceeded the time to file pronounced from the bench, it does not seem egregious that the jail audio tapes slipped under the big secure door.
FifthEssence
04-07-2009, 11:38 PM
Unfortunately for her, even if she cried that moment, a normal everyday juror is going to wonder how she could sit in her other jailhouse tapes and NOT weep for her little girl once while speaking to her family, or wonder how she could say, "this is such a hugh waste" as her friend Christina cries to her in fear that something may have happen to Caylee, or wonder how she could sit w/the investigators in the very beginning and check out her nails and make small 'fun' talk w/them without showing any interest in finding Caylee or hearing emotional pain in her voice.
There are 100 more unemotional cold hearted actions by the Prisoner that will extinguish any 'hint of sensitivity" in this couple minutes of video tape.
Sorry Mr. Baez and L.K-B, this won't save her. Keep looking....
She's going DOWN. Amen !
ishouldbworking
04-08-2009, 10:54 AM
why aren’t any of these defense lawyers paying attention to the fact that her reaction on Dec 11th was to a report of a child’s remains found...NOT the positive identification of the remains that came over a week later...in my tired eyes - it only furthers her guilt - because she knew she had put her there and the jig was up.
reference her reaction to "small bones" being found in the river by LP's divers...NOTHING...no emotion, no hives, no "breakdown" she walked by the TV stone-faced and went back to her cell...why? because she knew it wasn’t Caylee, because she didn’t put her there.
sorry for the small rant - but, with all the evidence that we have learned about - which i believe is a very SMALL sampling of what they actually have against her...all signs point to this monster killing her BABY for nothing other than greed -imo. gross.
...sorry for the mini rant...it's just infuriating to me.
On May 7, the scheduled hearing regarding suppression of the jail video, Mercury turns retrograde. Yes, that very morning, presaging a change of mind over documentation in Gemini. The Moon leaves Libra on a semi-square of 45° to Saturn, describing agitation and bickering between adversaries (Moon & Saturn rule opposite Signs). The Moon then enters Scorpio, where she has need to apologize for wrongdoing as a Scorpio Moon is in her fall. She is at strain with the 1°45' II Mercury because they are inconjunct, denoting negligence, inattention, sloppiness and lack of concern that allowed the escape of the audio tapes.
The very next day, we have a Full Moon. The Scorpio Moon will trine Uranus in Pisces, although afflicting a preachy conjunction of Jupiter & Neptune. Uranus in the jailhouse Pisces cannot be overcome, therefore however it occurs, the video tapes will out!
We are still in need of times for the May 7 hearing and the Baez filing AFTER he viewed the tapes. His original objection was filed weeks ago but what of the required follow-up? Web Sleuths, see if you can score in this Easter Egg Hunt. Thank you!
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/DepositionOnFullMoon028.jpg
Intuiton tells me the original time of day set for the Anthony depostions is an hour of convenience for the parties. Due to sheer good luck, if this is untrue, the horoscope still reveals the aspects of the Full Moon which culminates during this very hour.
Mercury, ruler of the Ascendant, is trine Pluto. Hidden knowledge, heretofore withheld, emerges through astute questioning. No one is more persuasive than Jupiter conjunct Neptune. He insinuates passage through to the The Facts via a winding way. This is the strong period of the year for Aries John Morgan.
The daughter is House 5, of course, ruled by Venus and the solstice point for Venus is 29:25 Virgo opposite Prisoner's own natal Sun. Venus also rules the past or what has come before. She is at a critical degree. Important Full Moon lunar node conjunct Cindy's own Moon and afflicting Mercury on the lunar node of Prisoner. The accused will not benefit from today's revelations.
Critical degree for the prisoner tells us her situation blows up due to her obstruction and obstinacy. Circumstances are exigent, grave and climactic for her and her frustration is boundless.
This chart, as marked, is set for 9:30 a.m. Eastern Standard Time or 10:30 a.m. Eastern Standard Daylight Time. I chose that hour because the parties had set it as convenient for their original February deposition.
salvarenga
04-08-2009, 11:53 AM
We are still in need of times for the May 7 hearing and the Baez filing AFTER he viewed the tapes. His original objection was filed weeks ago but what of the required follow-up? Web Sleuths, see if you can score in this Easter Egg Hunt. Thank you!
Where did you get May 7 for a hearing date? I just checked the Orange County Clerk's website and did not see any new notice of hearings filed?
Also, wanted to add that the depositions for George and Cindy are separate....one is at 10:30 and the other at 1:30. I know a chart has been done for the morning but what about the second deposition in the afternoon?
Angel Who Cares supplied it in this mornings news.
salvarenga
04-08-2009, 02:20 PM
Angel Who Cares supplied it in this mornings news.
The actual quote from the article is:
"The judge was expected to rule on the audio files May 7."
To me that sounds as if he was just going to read JB's motion and make a decision without an actual hearing. If that's the case, we won't be able to get a time-stamped document until May 7 unless Strickland rules earlier.
Or I could just be misreading the article. :)
Angel Who Cares
04-08-2009, 03:35 PM
FYI: Updated Info In the Criminal Case Dockets!
CASE ACTIONS
Docket Date-----Defendant-------------------Docket Entry
4/7/2009----A---NOTICE OF HEARING FILED 05/07/2009
4/7/2009----A---NOTICE OF PROVISION OF SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY
FYI: No time yet posted for this hearing it has to be approved by Judge Strickland first. I will post this as soon as it is posted in the Clerk Records! For those who couldn't find it it is listed at the bottom of the Case Actions! It is not posted in the Case Calendar yet! I posted this to confirm that he filed a motion for a hearing....that just means that Judge Strickland has to approve for the hearing or deny the request at this time it is only a motion! I hope this clears up the confusion for everyone. :blowkiss: As soon as I find if the Judge approved or denied the motion I will post it!
:hug:
Thanks!
:angel:
Oldsoul2
04-08-2009, 03:45 PM
why aren’t any of these defense lawyers paying attention to the fact that her reaction on Dec 11th was to a report of a child’s remains found...NOT the positive identification of the remains that came over a week later...in my tired eyes - it only furthers her guilt - because she knew she had put her there and the jig was up.
reference her reaction to "small bones" being found in the river by LP's divers...NOTHING...no emotion, no hives, no "breakdown" she walked by the TV stone-faced and went back to her cell...why? because she knew it wasn’t Caylee, because she didn’t put her there.
sorry for the small rant - but, with all the evidence that we have learned about - which i believe is a very SMALL sampling of what they actually have against her...all signs point to this monster killing her BABY for nothing other than greed -imo. gross.
...sorry for the mini rant...it's just infuriating to me.
Thank you and finally! That is what I have been thinking. This is actually more hindering to her than helpful. If I was a juror, I would think she just gave away the cows and made it obvious. I too want to know why or even how anyone could not factor this in or why the defense would possibly think this could help her defense in any way!!!
Well, it is certainly not lost on the state prosecutors nor on attorneys who are or were prosecutors but defense attorneys are thrilled she showed any emotion at all. The logic involved doesn't enter in for them, just as it does not when looking at the mass of circumstantial evidence. In this case, they are more or less reduced to picking holes in the coat worn by the other team. The fact that they are willing to defy logic should give potential jurors pause. Of course, you can watch this nightly on the crime shows. Check out their distortion of the August discovery by Roy Kronk.
He was onto it but Richard Cain, derelict in his duty was not and so Kronk is impugned. Is that rational? No!
Angel Who Cares
04-08-2009, 05:32 PM
FYI: Judge Strickland is who filed the complaint to the law bar against Baez!! Article in the time-stamped thread! I don't think the Judge is happy with Baez at all!!
Thanks SS & Tuba for your recent charts & insights too! :blowkiss:
I've been very busy lately & am leaving for San Diego Tuesday until May 2nd. I will have access to a PC, but will have days I will be busy or not near a PC. On those days Green-Eyed Blonde & a few others are going to make sure you get the media posted in the Time-Stamps. Just thought I should let you know why on some days I'm not posting. :wink:
Thanks!
:angel:
ishouldbworking
04-08-2009, 05:40 PM
FYI: Judge Strickland is who filed the complaint to the law bar against Baez!! Article in the time-stamped thread! I don't think the Judge is happy with Baez at all!!
:eek::eek::eek:
Angel Who Cares
04-08-2009, 06:25 PM
FYI: Court date is set now May 7 confirmed from a media report. On why the state should not release a video of Casey Anthony's reaction the day she learned a child's remains were found near her home. Baez also wants the judge to stop the state from releasing any videos, audiotapes and interviews with corrections officers who may have heard any conversations between Baez and Casey Anthony. This will be a very interesting hearing knowing that Judge Strickland is behind the complaint to the law bar!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek Is right ishouldbeworking!!!:wink:
Article in the Time-Stamped thread for you, but this is the major points I read from the article at this time!
Thanks!
:angel:
Virtual Truth
04-08-2009, 11:29 PM
FYI: Judge Strickland is who filed the complaint to the law bar against Baez!! Article in the time-stamped thread! I don't think the Judge is happy with Baez at all!!
Thanks SS & Tuba for your recent charts & insights too! :blowkiss:
I've been very busy lately & am leaving for San Diego Tuesday until May 2nd. I will have access to a PC, but will have days I will be busy or not near a PC. On those days Green-Eyed Blonde & a few others are going to make sure you get the media posted in the Time-Stamps. Just thought I should let you know why on some days I'm not posting. :wink:
Thanks!
:angel:
Wise astros (Tuba, Soulscape, HM and others): Could this be what JB wanted to discuss in private (ex parte) with the Judge recently? TIA!!
salvarenga
04-08-2009, 11:55 PM
Don't forget this is also an alleged investigation into Brad Conway as well.
Khaki_Pants
04-09-2009, 01:53 AM
I know this is off topic, non astrology, but I so wanted to share this with this group...And I do not know how to connect with this core group other than here....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwTl4EYS88A&feature=channel
This guy does such neat stuff, just like you guys. "The murderer" is one I would watch if you are interested in Haleigh. Not that I think Misty is directly involved, but thought provoking..... Delete if necessary....
twomanywords
04-09-2009, 03:06 AM
Tuba, could all of this activity now with Strickland filing a complaint and Baez being in trouble be why April 15 might be such a bad day for Casey?
Can you tell if Baez or Strickland will be off the case?
Thanks:)
MeenaMom
04-09-2009, 08:40 AM
Full Moon 10;56 am Deposition starts 1030 per John Morgan..He was on a local Radio show and he is ready. He is hoping Cindy speaks herself into a corner..Real Radio 104.1 they will probably have the clip available later.
salvarenga
04-09-2009, 09:40 AM
Posted in the main forum...
Baez's Motion for Protective Order re jail video will be heard May 7 at 4PM.
karenmamo
04-09-2009, 10:36 AM
Full Moon 10;56 am Deposition starts 1030 per John Morgan..He was on a local Radio show and he is ready. He is hoping Cindy speaks herself into a corner..Real Radio 104.1 they will probably have the clip available later.
YES...I have read on some blogs how Cindy will take a pass on about half the questions from Morgan.
I am with you on this. Cannot see Cindy NOT talking. She will talk right over her attorney. Thinking of all the times she has had the opportunity to hear her own voice. So happy today because JM is one sly fox.
The chart for the deposition at 10:30 a.m. is on our calendar or just go to page 2. of this thread and you will see several posts on it, including #35.
salvarenga
04-09-2009, 10:52 AM
**Looks like Cindy will not be giving her depo until this afternoon. Check out the link of them walking in on WFTV. The reporters are trying to get them to talk and Cindy clearly is doing her best not to smirk at the reporters b/c she refuses to speak with them and they can't get a sound bite from her.**
10:26 a.m. George Anthony and Cindy Anthony arrived at the Morgan & Morgan law firm with their attorney shortly before 10 a.m. They didn't say anything when they got off the elevator. An off-duty Orlando police officer was with them.
About 20 minutes later, the deposition began of George Anthony in the law firm's mock courtroom.
Cindy Anthony went into the mock courtroom - the place where they are being questioned - and started to set up her a video camera herself.
Before the deposition began, George Anthony and attorney Brad Conway went into one room while Cindy Anthony was taken to another.
The officer, who says she was hired by Morgan & Morgan law firm, remains in the lobby with the media.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-civil-case-040909,0,6179979.story
shgrbkr
04-09-2009, 11:19 AM
Not really astro related, but just a comment...how can Cindy take a pass when she has nothing at stake here? SHE is not accused of murder, nor is SHE being sued! You can only "take the 5th" to protect against self-incrimination.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/May7HearingBaezProtectiveOrder033.jpg
When the depositions were set for February, the times were 10:30 a.m. for George and 1:30 p.m. for Cindy. Rescheduled for April 9, the same hours were assigned.
salvarenga
04-09-2009, 12:26 PM
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/May7HearingBaezProtectiveOrder033.jpg
Tuba - Does this mean that someone is going to be sick? The judge is angry and demands an apology. Will they videos be released? Sorry if I am rambling, I was trying to read your chart and listen in on a conference call at the same time. Can you give me a simple synopsis of what this means? I am confused. Sorry.
salvarenga
04-09-2009, 12:27 PM
When the depositions were set for February, the times were 10:30 a.m. for George and 1:30 p.m. for Cindy. Rescheduled for April 9, the same hours were assigned.
One more question, what do you make of Cindy bringing in her own video camera and taping everything. Is she doing this to intimidate George or to make sure they can keep their stories straight later?
magic-cat
04-09-2009, 12:39 PM
FYI: Court date is set now May 7 confirmed from a media report. On why the state should not release a video of Casey Anthony's reaction the day she learned a child's remains were found near her home. Baez also wants the judge to stop the state from releasing any videos, audiotapes and interviews with corrections officers who may have heard any conversations between Baez and Casey Anthony. This will be a very interesting hearing knowing that Judge Strickland is behind the complaint to the law bar!!!
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek Is right ishouldbeworking!!!:wink:
Article in the Time-Stamped thread for you, but this is the major points I read from the article at this time!
Thanks!
:angel:
Hi angel! Since the interviews with the officers who saw her reaction have already BEEN released, is it possible to know WHEN Baez changed his motion to include those items? Was it AFTER he had already gotten them and the press was already in process of obtaining them? If so, then I do not know how it can be ruled that they cannot be released, when they already WERE released when he made/ammended the motion. Do you know Angel if he ammended or filed a new one and if so when?:confused:
Sickness occurred before this hearing took place. No, not the judge demanding an apology nor giving in to anger but any time the Moon is in Scorpio, an apology is due & we do know that the state accidentally released the audio tapes of the incidents at the infirmary. The anger, Mars at 11° Aries ruling H.8, is over secrets in jeopardy. And Mars rules the hour (see center of chart). Mercury, which turns retrograde this very day in May, is in septile aspect to Mars: an aspect of Fate. That means that all of the climactic events of this Full Moon period (FM is May 8) were fated.
About the protective order. Baez included everything and the court ruled that he should view the tapes before a ruling on their use or release. State provided the tapes and he obtained them March 4. Then he took his time deliberating.
aksleuth
04-09-2009, 06:37 PM
After watching GA's depo today, I'm thinking his health must still be in jeopardy. He's a powder keg getting ready to explode. He puts the blame on everyone except the right person. The attorneys were over-the-top polite with him, but he was arrogant and looking for a fight.
Whatever was in his chart before that caused his health issues, must still be there, and ready to boil over. He's impatient and extremely uncooperative.
Here's the chart posted by Tuba just after George left home on Jan. 22nd.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u234/Myrtle_Groggins/GeorgeLeavesHome_Jan22-2009.jpg
Are these aspects still in effect for him? I'm not being nosy, just concerned, and trying to learn.
His present aspects are deplorable and really, they do not improve by May. Saturn is on his Sun, than which there is nought more depressing and Mars was exactly opposite five days ago and is still lighting him up. The combination is stressful on the good days and obnoxious on days when he is challenged. The pair of them, sorriest deponents ever to sit, are defending the indefensible and in reaction, prickly as porcupines.
aksleuth
04-10-2009, 06:42 AM
Thanks so much, Tuba. When I saw his depo, I thought he was going to pop right there. It's the worst I've ever seen him. Sure, he's been terribly sad at times, but yesterday, he was so out of control, paranoid (he's giving me the finger!), and explosive.
Cindy was at least a bit calmer, until she had to be removed from ZG's throat, so to speak. Talk about two people who should have stayed home under their covers!
One thing for sure, the As really know how to give a show. Surprisingly, the mysterious Lee is beginning to look like the most sane of the bunch. :eek:
What did we learn from yesterday's depos? Other than the Full Moon isn't a good time to air your dirty laundry in peace and quiet and that astrology rocks? :bang:
April 4th was an important day for George, as he set his intention to refuse cooperation. His progressed Mars is 16° Virgo and Saturn was 16° Virgo while Mars opposed from 16° Pisces. Now on the day of the deposition, the Sun in Aries was part of a culmination of the Moon and that Sun was antiscion George's own Sun in Virgo. The Full Moon in Aries-Libra was thus a turning point for George.
Does the badly answered pair of depositions portend consequences for this couple and for the case? Yes, as though a stage hand were operating a bellows from the wings, tremendous volumes of billowing smoke have been pumped into the picture of Caylee's final days. We know this because the Libra Moon applies to a trine of the fantasy conjunction of Jupiter-Neptune in far out House 9. Zanny has already evolved into code for "the usual suspects", Amy, Jesse with Ricardo close behind.
The long term opposition of Saturn and Uranus, still in effect, has produced a folie a deux in the Anthonys. In order to protect what is an emotionally acceptable version of events, they have to consider opponents of their theory The Enemy.
Web Sleuths, if you come across the announcement by the sheriff that Deputy Richard Cain was terminated, please post any time of such official word. I learned of this 4 minute before it went to press, so I will cast the chart for that moment.
ishouldbworking
04-10-2009, 06:10 PM
i checked the osco website and it doesnt list a time. it does list the date of today with the same document that the orlando sentinel posted to their site at 5:04pm.
http://www.ocso.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=MediaRelations%2f04.10.09_PSD-cain.pdf&tabid=180&mid=1130
...off to check a few other places.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/RichardCainFired034.jpg
Analysis of the horoscope is underneath the horoscope for the announcement deputy has been terminated. Odd note: the Sun is precisely opposite its place at Prisoner's indictment and at the place of the Full Moon that day of October 14, 2008.
salvarenga
04-10-2009, 07:22 PM
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/RichardCainFired034.jpg
Analysis of the horoscope is underneath the horoscope for the announcement deputy has been terminated. Odd note: the Sun is precisely opposite its place at Prisoner's indictment and at the place of the Full Moon that day of October 14, 2008.
What do you make of that Tuba? Do you see some signifigance in that?
Tuba, could all of this activity now with Strickland filing a complaint and Baez being in trouble be why April 15 might be such a bad day for Casey?
Can you tell if Baez or Strickland will be off the case?
Thanks:)
This mad dog day for the prisoner is very personal to her and her crock of clangers. The Moon will be on her Neptune and we know she uses that wonderful planet for deception and duplicity and a false image of herself. But far more unusual is the conjunction of Mars & Uranus in the heavens right on her Mercury, how she communicates and square her own Uranus and Mars. She has been maintaining tight control over her speech and affect and the control is running out, she is really gripping on this day, when she would far prefer giving in to hysteria.
Khaki_Pants
04-10-2009, 08:14 PM
Wasn't sure if you folks had seen this yet, but I thought you'd be interested. It's Rev. Grunds.
http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=85212505&blogId=482388324
magic-cat
04-10-2009, 08:15 PM
This mad dog day for the prisoner is very personal to her and her crock of clangers. The Moon will be on her Neptune and we know she uses that wonderful planet for deception and duplicity and a false image of herself. But far more unusual is the conjunction of Mars & Uranus in the heavens right on her Mercury, how she communicates and square her own Uranus and Mars. She has been maintaining tight control over her speech and affect and the control is running out, she is really gripping on this day, when she would far prefer giving in to hysteria.
Best news I have had all day-week-month! I am counting down the days to the 15th...tick-tock-tick-tock...I hope her skin turns inside out on her!:furious:
What do you make of that Tuba? Do you see some signifigance in that?
Well, we have come to a point in the zodiac where the factors of the indictment are fully illuminated, 180° away. How important this deputy's negligence was in the search for Caylee and for physical evidence of the crime against her! His behavior was so remiss that it is tempting to believe it may have been purposeful. However, Cain had been derelict in duty in the past.
sirensong
04-11-2009, 01:41 AM
Tuba, you are so wise. I enjoy your posts and thank you for all you bring to the table.:clap:
FifthEssence
04-11-2009, 02:14 AM
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/RichardCainFired034.jpg
Analysis of the horoscope is underneath the horoscope for the announcement deputy has been terminated. Odd note: the Sun is precisely opposite its place at Prisoner's indictment and at the place of the Full Moon that day of October 14, 2008.
YES Tuba, that is quite STRIKING indeed. How about that!
Well, Mr. Conway, you may term the defamation legal action "frivolous" and assert that no one believed Z.G. was responsible for the disappearance but LE questioned one woman and one only, the plaintiff. She was the woman known to be at Sawgrass Apts. where the prisoner says her daughter was last seen. She is the Z.G. with New York plates on her car. She is the one Prisoner claims never to have seen in a photo line-up at the station. And then your clients, Mr. & Mrs. A., publish the defamation by not only repeatedly naming her as responsible but by stating the prisoner never cleared her or even saw her picture. They abuse her name to this day. It is as pure a case of defamation as ever seen~it is slander per se, stark, raw, nothing else needed slander to accuse anyone of such a crime.
If that is your notion and your clients' notion of frivolous, what do they do when they really mean it!
Angel Who Cares
04-11-2009, 08:06 PM
:rubberducky: Happy Easter to all of our wonderful devoted astrologers & mod Fifth! :rose:'s & :grouphug:'s
I wanted to let you all know, I haven't posted much lately here, but have been reading everything. I'm learning so much from all of you & you all amaze me with how devoted you are to every case you work on. Some day I hope that I can help with doing charts too. For now I can make sure you get the much needed information in the Time-Stamped threads. I have been very busy with the media, my disability review, & a much needed trip to sunny San Diego Tuesday till May 3rd!! :sunshine: :dance: :cool2:
I have some wonderful sweet astrolger readers & posters, who have reached out, to help make sure that that the information is posted in the Time-Stamped threads for all of you.:blowkiss: I will have access to a PC, but on somedays I'll be out exploring the beautiful landscapes of San Diego & Palm Springs! I'll still be posting the media as much as I can, but wanted to make sure you knew that I made arrangements to make sure the Time-Stamped threads are covered on those days!
I'm still amazed of how the A's answered the ?'s in the depos, even though I knew that thier stories would change.:pinocchio: Don't they realize that they swore to tell the truth when they were interviewed by OCSD, FBI, & ZFG lawyers. George is looking very ill & he appears to have aged 10yrs in his face that I'm worried that he will even make it to the trial. He is battling between wanting to save Casey & yet he knows in his heart that he should be the voice for Caylee. I still wish that he when he was released from the hospital that he went to stay with his parents or friends. I can see the strain between him & Cindy is getting worse than ever.:( Cindy is so full of anger & her depo was so obviously rehearsed! :furious: I can't understand how she can say she loved Caylee, but yet isn't wanting to know the truth of what happened to her only grandaughter. :scream: :nono:
This sure showed us of how they will respond to be questioned in the trial. It will be much more controlled thier actions when it is done in front of Judge Strickland. Waiting to see what April 15th holds for Casey, from what I understand from your charts, is a day that will show many emotions from her. She must really feel the walls closing in more & more everyday.:present: Her party days are now only in her dreams & yet she appears in court acting so above everyone else.
I can't remember & apologize for asking, but does Casey still believe that has outsmarted everyone & will be found not guilty? I know & pray that she isn't found not guilty with all of the scientific evidence there is. CA's quote partly...."It is what it is....Science dosen't lie but the whole A family sure does! I can't get over how she could look at ZFG & tell her that she's cute but sorry you're not a 10! :dervish:
I'm still amazed Tuba that Casey still hasn't dropped her end of the defamation of character case against ZFG. No writer could ever write so many twist & turns in one case like this. if I didn't read the docs etc. myself, I would tell someone that this case was not a true story. That the writer sure has quite an imagination! :rolling: :crosseyed:
:hen: :boing: :rubberducky:
Happy Easter To Everyone!
:angel:
karenmamo
04-11-2009, 09:19 PM
Question for the astrologers here...does it appear the defamation suit will actually go to trial?
Sorry if this has been addressed previously.
karen
LambChop
04-12-2009, 09:39 AM
Another question...Will ZG include the Anthony's in her lawsuit in light of CA's depo??
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/KarenAsksWillDFMCometoTrial036.jpg
There will be coercion to provide truthful answers to deposition questions because the Scorpio Moon is moments (less than a °) from squaring Jupiter and trining Mars. The law on the matter is settled, Mercury in Taurus ruling H. 9 and the Part of Fortune joins Mercury in a trine to Pluto which redoes the unsatisfactory. This same Mercury, by the way, squares Cindy's Moon requiring cooperation not given. And nothing is more determined than Mercury in Taurus. It is this determined Mercury that pays off, conjunct Fortune.
No judge wants to try this as it is dealing with a sack of wildcats: Moon ruling the House of the judge is contraparallel the same House. Venus returning to the Sign where Mars is found (albeit Mars with Uranus) foretells eventual monetary settlement. As you know, settlements are distinct from judgments, and that answers your horary question. The Moon's final aspect a trine to Venus says, "Pay up!"
Lambchop, grudging cooperation by order compelling truthful answers obviates the hammer of the law. Because Uranus and Neptune are in mutual reception and the fact that the senior Anthonys published the defamation, the option is to name them as co-defendants, yes.:razz:
Oldsoul2
04-12-2009, 11:56 AM
Did anyone hear Cindy's statement: "Just because you say something doesn't mean you mean it"...I'm sorry but that's throwing humour into this disaster of a situation....you know how people always seem to throw alittle truth between their lies. I can see where Casey got this from. I found Mr. Morgan did a great job deposing CA and caught her many times in her lies. I was just curious...why was CA and GA smirking through this? Also, being under oath means you are obliged to tell the truth, which in my opinion was not told, will they have any consequences for this?
ishouldbworking
04-12-2009, 12:45 PM
Did anyone hear Cindy's statement: "Just because you say something doesn't mean you mean it"...
i did! and took note. imo - it goes hand in hand with her statement "science is just science...nothing is 100%"
:bang:
Yes, to both those posts. Sounds like a parrot squawking, doesn't it. As the dean and don of our Web Sleuth School of Life comes striding down the aisle toward the deponent, she takes another swig from her water bottle. He addresses her with the direct and formal inquiry, "Where is the substance? If science is dismissible and statements do not mean what they say", he repeats, "Where is the substance?" Or, as Sgt. John Allen would put it, "It is to be found where ?" The deponent chews twice and replies, "I'm not going to answer that. Including where it's at!"
LambChop
04-12-2009, 07:39 PM
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/KarenAsksWillDFMCometoTrial036.jpg
There will be coercion to provide truthful answers to deposition questions because the Scorpio Moon is moments (less than a °) from squaring Jupiter and trining Mars. The law on the matter is settled, Mercury in Taurus ruling H. 9 and the Part of Fortune joins Mercury in a trine to Pluto which redoes the unsatisfactory. This same Mercury, by the way, squares Cindy's Moon requiring cooperation not given. And nothing is more determined than Mercury in Taurus. It is this determined Mercury that pays off, conjunct Fortune.
No judge wants to try this as it is dealing with a sack of wildcats: Moon ruling the House of the judge is contraparallel the same House. Venus returning to the Sign where Mars is found (albeit Mars with Uranus) foretells eventual monetary settlement. As you know, settlements are distinct from judgments, and that answers your horary question. The Moon's final aspect a trine to Venus says, "Pay up!"
Lambchop, grudging cooperation by order compelling truthful answers obviates the hammer of the law. Because Uranus and Neptune are in mutual reception and the fact that the senior Anthonys published the defamation, the option is to name them as co-defendants, yes.:razz:
Thank you Tuba. I believe there is a "Homestead Act" in Florida but I think if I were ZG I'd be knocking on the A's front door with tape measure in hand asking if I could come in and measure for curtains.:woohoo:
The powerful conjunction of Mars and Uranus becomes precise on Wednesday but they are on for Tuesday, a day ruled by Mars. At luncheon in the jailhouse, the Moon on Prisoner's own conjunction of Mars-Uranus in Sagittarius will square this rabid combination of Mars and Uranus raining down just so on her Mercury. We will surely not be shown these horrible moments via video but they will put a flea in her ear and hot smoke up her nose and you can lean back and visualize it. Think of it as an aperitif when you dine on your Dagwood clubhouse and Coke.
shgrbkr
04-12-2009, 08:54 PM
The powerful conjunction of Mars and Uranus becomes precise on Wednesday but they are on for Tuesday, a day ruled by Mars. At luncheon in the jailhouse, the Moon on Prisoner's own conjunction of Mars-Uranus in Sagittarius will square this rabid combination of Mars and Uranus raining down just so on her Mercury. We will surely not be shown these horrible moments via video but they will put a flea in her ear and hot smoke up her nose and you can lean back and visualize it. Think of it as an aperitif when you dine on your Dagwood clubhouse and Coke.
Tuba, will this very bad day for KC be regarding the civil suit, the criminal case, lawyers, something else, or is it even possible to tell what exactly is getting her panties in a wad?
It is a very bad day for her in EVERY way but particularly in regard to her past web of false accounts and in regard to the legal consequences. To be honest it is like living in a stone house in Italy when that earthquake brought it down around the inhabitant. Can you imagine being born with Mars conjunct Uranus square your Mercury and then experiencing that same Mars and Uranus come together over head right on your Mercury, square your own Mars and Uranus? Also like being the bottom car in a 9 car pile-up. That is how the happenings and words of the day will strike her. Her mind will reel and she will spit spikes.
Dihan
04-12-2009, 11:41 PM
tuba will we get to hear of this? sure would luv to know what she spits spikes about,please tell me we will get the skinny, please please please,this whole dern case has all of our heads spinning nice to know her day is near
aksleuth
04-13-2009, 01:09 AM
Well, I have no idea why the Anthonys were smirking and acting triumphant during the depositions. All I know is they came off arrogant, stubborn, argumentative, and blamed everyone but the right one. How do their attitudes and actions help Caylee? Does no one care about her?
If I were on a jury, and they came in with those attitudes, throwing everyone else under the bus, and desperately trying to save their daughter, no way would I fall for their tricks.
Tuba, thanks for the comments and the new charts. If I were Morgan and company, I'd be joyously filing suit against the older As, too.
Thanks for the link to Rev. Grund's comments. He's not at all happy with the A clan, is he? I'm just amazed how far-reaching this case has become, and how many have been caught in the A-crossfire. True, some have voluntarily gotten involved, but still, it boggles the mind......and interesting that some of the same crowd have extended themselves to Satsuma.
static
04-13-2009, 01:14 AM
Did anyone hear Cindy's statement: "Just because you say something doesn't mean you mean it"...I'm sorry but that's throwing humour into this disaster of a situation....you know how people always seem to throw alittle truth between their lies. I can see where Casey got this from. I found Mr. Morgan did a great job deposing CA and caught her many times in her lies. I was just curious...why was CA and GA smirking through this? Also, being under oath means you are obliged to tell the truth, which in my opinion was not told, will they have any consequences for this?
Yes, and I thought to myself, (open mouth, insert foot) well, why do you believe Casey all the time then? grrrr
I am so glad Caylee is safe and sound now...I know that sounds odd, but I am sure she is in the heavens.
static
04-13-2009, 01:19 AM
Also, does anyone think Baez will still be representing Casey when this goes to trial in October? (my birthday is on the twelfth of October:) my grandaughter's birthday is on the 14th of october the day KC was arrested, just think that is kind of interesting if it does go to trial the twelfth. I am just wondering of the motion Strickland filed will somehow get him tossed off the case. Sorry if this has been asked already.
salvarenga
04-13-2009, 10:51 AM
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Thank you Tuba. I believe there is a "Homestead Act" in Florida but I think if I were ZG I'd be knocking on the A's front door with tape measure in hand asking if I could come in and measure for curtains.:woohoo:
Not astrology related but I had to say this one brough tears to my eyes....tears from laughing so hard. Good one! :)
We don't get the case news at the same time Prisoner and her "team" do, so who can say if and when we will find out what tightened her jaws. It is possible that word about that match between soil or earth on her shoes and the earth at the deposit scene will out by confirmation in the press. At daybreak, Mercury and Uranus are semi-square and the placements of those planets hits the prisoner's own planets, her Mercury and her progressed Venus at a bad angle. She awakens with the jits, twitchy, agitated and worried. She doesn't know what she wants but is aware she's in peril and stressed by the effort to maintain her cool front before authorities.
After lunch, Mercury is 135° sesqui-quadrate with the Moon, bad angle like a high tension wire. Prisoner's unrelenting obstinacy in holding her incredible position has a reckoning due to present happenings and findings. She disagrees with those around her and refuses compromise.
These two aspects, at dawn and post prandial, are important because they involve the planet of news and communication, Mercury in the heavens and create an opening for us to learn something about her state. Bear in mind though, that these aspects are in addition to the chief trouble makers already described. So does Prisoner have a full plate on Tuesday's menu? A dish of rails!
Static, in October when Librans run on high octane, three big names are scheduled for trial: Strickland, Baez and Baden. If that trial date is kept, we will have those figures at full strength, performing at peak. As Librans, they are all experiencing their annual trough, Aries, when energies are low and matters do not go their way. One does not advance under the solar opposition to natal Sun and appears at ones worst.
A core of Librans at trial will be a benefit as you surely notice that they have a calming effect on proceedings and events. I have read and heard criticism of Baez but his most severe critic must admit that he is not an agitant such as Cindy is or Jonathan K. At their worst moments, there is a rhythm and a smoothness and a measure to the way they conduct themselves. I hope we keep them.
salvarenga
04-13-2009, 11:47 AM
No date yet as to as specific air date or the date the interview is to take place.....
http://http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2804156.story
Please tell me that their is something in the stars to suggest that this interview WILL NOT take place. I just can't believe that Oprah would give these people a forum to spew their lies. Geraldo, yes....Oprah, please God NO! I respect this woman and hope that she would not actually believe the lies these two people spew.
UGH!!!!
Dihan
04-13-2009, 11:53 AM
TUBA THANK YOU so much for your explaining,and all your hard work, know you are highly respected in these forms,thanks for always answering my ?'s and lambchop thanks for the laugh,that was priceless.
Oldsoul2
04-13-2009, 12:36 PM
No date yet as to as specific air date or the date the interview is to take place.....
http://http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2804156.story
Please tell me that their is something in the stars to suggest that this interview WILL NOT take place. I just can't believe that Oprah would give these people a forum to spew their lies. Geraldo, yes....Oprah, please God NO! I respect this woman and hope that she would not actually believe the lies these two people spew.
UGH!!!!
I totally agree with you....I thought the same thing except I'm starting to grasp the magnitude of ratings and what people will do for them while appearing in the most bias, professional way. Note "appear" Oprah...shame on you, your on the Forbes list!
Oldsoul2
04-13-2009, 12:42 PM
Oh by the way......Cindy can't keep herself quiet for another minute, she was out of the media too long for her liking. Does the public really need to watch another of CA and GA's public fits that make no sense? Tuba....why do they need to do this, is it about money?
LambChop
04-13-2009, 01:59 PM
We don't get the case news at the same time Prisoner and her "team" do, so who can say if and when we will find out what tightened her jaws. It is possible that word about that match between soil or earth on her shoes and the earth at the deposit scene will out by confirmation in the press. At daybreak, Mercury and Uranus are semi-square and the placements of those planets hits the prisoner's own planets, her Mercury and her progressed Venus at a bad angle. She awakens with the jits, twitchy, agitated and worried. She doesn't know what she wants but is aware she's in peril and stressed by the effort to maintain her cool front before authorities.
After lunch, Mercury is 135° sesqui-quadrate with the Moon, bad angle like a high tension wire. Prisoner's unrelenting obstinacy in holding her incredible position has a reckoning due to present happenings and findings. She disagrees with those around her and refuses compromise.
These two aspects, at dawn and post prandial, are important because they involve the planet of news and communication, Mercury in the heavens and create an opening for us to learn something about her state. Bear in mind though, that these aspects are in addition to the chief trouble makers already described. So does Prisoner have a full plate on Tuesday's menu? A dish of rails!
Let's hope for the jailer's sake that a bologna sandwich with a side of cole slaw is not on the menu.
Angel Who Cares
04-13-2009, 02:28 PM
FYI: I found a new time-stamped document from Baez!
DOCUMENT: Defense Team Requests Cell Phone Records
http://www.wftv.com/news/19166857/detail.html
faxed from Baez office on 4/10/09 @ 2:41pm EDST
Now back to my packing for my trip to :sunshine: San Diego!!
:angel:
static
04-13-2009, 03:57 PM
Static, in October when Librans run on high octane, three big names are scheduled for trial: Strickland, Baez and Baden. If that trial date is kept, we will have those figures at full strength, performing at peak. As Librans, they are all experiencing their annual trough, Aries, when energies are low and matters do not go their way. One does not advance under the solar opposition to natal Sun and appears at ones worst.
A core of Librans at trial will be a benefit as you surely notice that they have a calming effect on proceedings and events. I have read and heard criticism of Baez but his most severe critic must admit that he is not an agitant such as Cindy is or Jonathan K. At their worst moments, there is a rhythm and a smoothness and a measure to the way they conduct themselves. I hope we keep them.
hoping that also because this is in the time of Libra, (sign of the scales) that justice will prevail!
salvarenga
04-13-2009, 04:24 PM
See time stamped media thread for article.....
In a change of heart, the state has decided that it WILL seek the death penalty. They must have some smoking guns they have yet to release.
Didn't one of you lovely astros call this months ago?
Carolina Girl
04-13-2009, 04:32 PM
Well, that certainly was not good news for the prisoner!
Keep up the good work, I really enjoy this thread, thanks.
Angel Who Cares
04-13-2009, 04:32 PM
FYI: Death Penalty Is Back! The state attorney's office has filed a letter of intent Monday to seek the dealth penalty for Casey! :clap: :clap:
:woohoo:
What do the charts show & is this what Casey will be so unglued about on the 15th or is this close enough according to the charts for the date? TIA
Article in the Time-stamped thread!!!
:angel:
ButForFortune
04-13-2009, 04:34 PM
Tuba predicted something huge for Casey starting tomorrow with April 15th being a huge day for her. The death penalty is now back on the table - this has to be rocking Casey's world!
Thanks Tuba - all you astrologers continue to amaze me!
ButForFortune
04-13-2009, 04:36 PM
Oops Angel Who Cares - we must have been posting at the same time - I had the same thought exactly!
butterfly1978
04-13-2009, 05:09 PM
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here is a link.
http://www.wftv.com/news/19169044/detail.html
This could definatly be the bad day Casey is expecting to have, maybe on the 15 Bias tells her, you have to confess or you are going to death row....
butterfly1978
04-13-2009, 05:12 PM
Another thing Bias can NOT try the case if it is a death penalty case!!!!!
Angel Who Cares
04-13-2009, 05:16 PM
Here's the SA document just released for the death penalty!
READ: State's Intent To Seek Death Penalty
http://www.wftv.com/blank/19169222/detail.html
:angel:
Looks like 4/13/09 @ 3:31pm when the clerks office entered the document in the system
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v724/romancingthestone/DeathPenaltyfiling.jpg
LambChop
04-13-2009, 06:23 PM
Poor Angel Who Cares. Did you have chance to pack at all today? Such a big news day it must have driven you crazy.
Angel Who Cares
04-13-2009, 06:50 PM
OT: Not really to be honest this is making it hard to finish packing!
I'll just have to keep taking breaks all evening to keep up with any new news!
I'm anxious to read any charts our wonderful brilliant astrologers have on this new news too!
At least it lite a flame on my behind to just hurry & get it all done! :rolling:
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/StateSeeksDeathPenalty037.jpg
This is the horoscope of State's filing death penalty notice. Now we know why the prisoner wakes tomorrow, sweating in twisted covers.
See time stamped media thread for article.....
In a change of heart, the state has decided that it WILL seek the death penalty. They must have some smoking guns they have yet to release.
Didn't one of you lovely astros call this months ago?
Actually, salvarenga, the chart I did for the December 5, 2008 announcement that the S.A. would not seek the death penalty should be on the calendar at that date. In my analysis, I called their decision a huge mistake and explained why. But I held out for a change in that posture down the line because the State possessed a mutual reception affecting the penalty that allowed State to reverse the announcement of December 5. The position would have been stronger without that original eschewal.
Angel Who Cares
04-13-2009, 08:55 PM
Thanks so much Tuba for the chart! :blowkiss:
So R. Cain neglect of his duties does hurt the state's case from what I'm understanding Tuba?
Is it possible the SA has more evidence to prove that Casey is responsible for the murder? I'm strongly feeling the SA hasn't shown all of thier cards yet & waited until they dotted thier i's & crossed thier t's! I'm hoping this is the case of why they brought back the DP! Could you explain the last 2 sentences of your last post Tuba? I'm not clear on what you mean....I don't know if it's cause I'm a bit overwhelmed with my to do list packing or it's just me! :crazy:
OT: LambChop it is driving me crazy! At least it didn't get released while I was on the plane tomorrow. I would have been on the way to the airport if it was released tomorrow!
This is helping me to quickly finish packing at least! LOL
Still have much more to do, but I'm taking breaks every few minutes! :wink:
salvarenga
04-13-2009, 08:55 PM
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/StateSeeksDeathPenalty037.jpg
This is the horoscope of State's filing death penalty notice. Now we know why the prisoner wakes tomorrow, sweating in twisted covers.
So does this mean that even though the state is now seeking the death penalty, they will not be successful in getting this penalty?
Yes, the Saturn influence in H. 1 has a limiting effect on everything that ensues from the S.A. filing today and where does that Saturn come from and what does it mean? That is what I explained above. Saturn is the delay in coming to this choice to move for a death penalty and we know that it has been a long delay, since December 5. So that delay has harmed the prosecution. So has the negligence of Richard Cain in investigating the woods at the behest of Roy Kronk. And Saturn rules his work in this horoscope. So those two factors militate against success. What is worse, the Moon is about to square that Saturn!
However, the ASC is conjunct a very powerful Fixed Star of first magnitude and it is a favorable star, of victory and honor. Therefore the State will argue and argue well. But Lenamon will undoubtedly be back onside arguing for the defense. The Sign on the DSC looks just like his chart. In the end, the Moon will favor both Neptune on the DSC and the Sun ruling the ASC.
The Moon and Mercury in this chart for the filing are in what is called Horizon parallel. They are the same distance from the East West axis that makes the ASC and DSC. A practical decision will come out of this motion. There will be a change in the disposition of the matter, denoted by Moon in H. 4 and because she is parallel Mercury in H. 9 and making that aspect from Sagittarius, a change of location. Baez plans to file for a change of venue. I believe the judge will take the State's motion under advisement rather than rule on it now. Venus at 29° Pisces and retrograde ruling him tells me he will deliberate.
shgrbkr
04-13-2009, 11:19 PM
Yes, the Saturn influence in H. 1 has a limiting effect on everything that ensues from the S.A. filing today and where does that Saturn come from and what does it mean? That is what I explained above. Saturn is the delay in coming to this choice to move for a death penalty and we know that it has been a long delay, since December 5. So that delay has harmed the prosecution. So has the negligence of Richard Cain in investigating the woods at the behest of Roy Kronk. And Saturn rules his work in this horoscope. So those two factors militate against success. What is worse, the Moon is about to square that Saturn!
However, the ASC is conjunct a very powerful Fixed Star of first magnitude and it is a favorable star, of victory and honor. Therefore the State will argue and argue well. But Lenamon will undoubtedly be back onside arguing for the defense. The Sign on the DSC looks just like his chart. In the end, the Moon will favor both Neptune on the DSC and the Sun ruling the ASC.
The Moon and Mercury in this chart for the filing are in what is called Horizon parallel. They are the same distance from the East West axis that makes the ASC and DSC. A practical decision will come out of this motion. There will be a change in the disposition of the matter, denoted by Moon in H. 4 and because she is parallel Mercury in H. 9 and making that aspect from Sagittarius, a change of location. Baez plans to file for a change of venue. I believe the judge will take the State's motion under advisement rather than rule on it now. Venus at 29° Pisces and retrograde ruling him tells me he will deliberate.
Just so I'm understanding this correctly, the chart interpretation is that there will be a hearing on whether or not to allow the DP as possible sentence and it is possible the SA will prevail in this hearing, but not likely? --And the change of venue is forthcoming? (Long overdue, in my opinion).
Thinking about KC waking up all askew from thoughts of lethal injection makes me believe justice for Caylee may still prevail. Generally, I'm not a DP proponent, but for some reason in this case, I would have no problem with it.
:doh::doh:FYI: Death Penalty Is Back! The state attorney's office has filed a letter of intent Monday to seek the dealth penalty for Casey! :clap: :clap:
:woohoo:
What do the charts show & is this what Casey will be so unglued about on the 15th or is this close enough according to the charts for the date? TIA
Article in the Time-stamped thread!!!
:angel:
We don't have to wait for the prisoner's reaction, Angel. Remember post #85, her fresh hell begins as she emerges from what must have been a tortured sleep. The ugliness of her day is intense and stays that way and on into Wednesday and all of that day and in the evening, Moon on Pluto. Thursday brings more of the same with Mars // Uranus and Mercury contraparallel Pluto.
Angel Who Cares
04-14-2009, 04:13 AM
Thanks Tuba so much for pointing out the post for me again. Now I remember reading it. I've had too much multi-tasking going on with packing for my trip & trying to keep up with the threads all at the same time.:rolling: She is one person that deserves to have tortured sleep after the torture she put such a sweet little innocent angel through. I hope that she has many nights from here on out that are full of sweats twisted in her covers!
I'll be sure to be checking the threads & media on Thursday...thanks for letting us know to watch for more Thursday. I'll be all settled in by Thursday in San Diego! :clap:
:angel:
shgrbkr
04-14-2009, 04:19 AM
KC will be waking up soon...IF she slept at all. hehehe....
Right, shgrbkr, she may have had resort to a sedative with the Sun sextiling Neptune & Jupiter there. Back on October 18, 2008, Terence Lenamon visited the prisoner in her cell. He got nowhere with her in his exploration of the facts and had to conjure a defense from his private speculations. Part of the analysis of that chart for his visit was a forecast that her concocted alibi would come apart on April 3. That was probably when the State Att'y and the Attorney General came to their conclusion that Prisoner "deserved to die" due to newer evidentiary findings.
Baez may be content with the death penalty qualified lawyers on his team or he may reach for Lenamon again. He has Moon, Sun, Mercury and Mars plus the Node in Taurus but Venus right on Prisoner's Venus. He was born with Uranus & Pluto at 15° Virgo but Neptune opposing his Taurus planets from Scorpio. His Jupiter is exalted in Cancer.
But the mystery figure foreseen as joining the team turned out to be the San Diego personal injury lawyer, T.M.
For anyone who would dismiss the impact of an occultation, the Fixed Star Antares (violent, inflammatory) as well as Prisoner's Saturn which is conjunct Antares, was occulted on April 13. Vivian Robson, expert on Fixed Stars, found Saturn on Antares to be materialistic and dishonest and one who would lose at law and through quarrels. Sorrow comes to such a person through children.~Well, yes, if you kill them and justice calls for you to pay for your crime. We've seen that the prisoner is capable of tears for her predicament.
Taking it all in all, the big mea culpa for releasing the audio tapes from the infirmary is overblown. They were not tapes of the prisoner emoting, only tapes of the two officers describing what happened. Prosecution and jail may not have intended their release but there is no culpable departure from ordinary practice in doing so.
Oh by the way......Cindy can't keep herself quiet for another minute, she was out of the media too long for her liking. Does the public really need to watch another of CA and GA's public fits that make no sense? Tuba....why do they need to do this, is it about money?
One legal fact the senior Anthonys may not know: "Adverse inference to be drawn if independent evidence exists of a fact deponent refuses to answer."
Giving Mitnik and Morgan and Dill the clam when asked about the trunk & gas cans, about Sawgrass, or any of the multitude of questions, harms not helps Defense because there is independent evidence and deponents Geo. & Cindy are thus seen to be camouflaging the truth in such an obvious way that a blind man wouldn't miss it. They are hiding the facts because they judge them to be harmful. That is also presumptuous because the job belongs to the lawyers and it is not for them to evaluate what should and should not be said.
I think they are making the circuit, Oldsoul, because they consider themselves and Prisoner to be persecuted and they are seeking vindication. :boohoo:
salvarenga
04-14-2009, 11:35 AM
Without knowing exactly what time George and Cindy or Lee for that matter heard the news yesterday that the death penalty was back on the table....is there any way to tell what they may have been feeling about this new development?
karenmamo
04-14-2009, 11:49 AM
Tuba and all: Thanks so much for your hard work and updating the rest of us on what you know.
karen
C.A. was indignant and outraged, Mars Uranus square her Saturn and hardened in her cynicism toward the justice system, Sun opposite her Jupiter. Saturn is square her Sun these days as well and that is depressing. Venus is visiting her Mars, so she is ready to mix it up, pushing for a fight. She generates excitement, excess and impulse and needs to apply restraint and to withdraw. The Node is transiting her Moon, so C.A.'s subconscious is working overtime and she is seeking out interviews in part to make the prisoner's predicament a public cause.
Lee is frightened by the death penalty because Mars Uranus is squaring his Neptune. His Saturn-Pluto conjunction will be opposed by the Sun at the end of this week~heavy. At least transit Venus will soothe his ego on Friday.
George continues depressed and has been detailed even into May.
By the way, there is a mood abroad to take a long arm and sweep everything that has gone before into the bin. As in dismissing counsel. This is probably confined to an urge because practical reality laughs back--like a horse.
Angel Who Cares
04-14-2009, 01:24 PM
FYI: I thought this would be very helpful for your charts! Article in the time stamped stread.
Baez entered the jail perimeter shortly after 8 p.m. and left at 9:15 p.m., according to official jail records.
:angel:
Oldsoul2
04-14-2009, 01:25 PM
By the way, there is a mood abroad to take a long arm and sweep everything that has gone before into the bin. As in dismissing counsel. This is probably confined to an urge because practical reality laughs back--like a horse.
Thank you so much Tuba for clearly clarifying my question to you, it is so appreciated for your endless efforts for justice.
You have shed light on the subconscious factors of the A's which I didn't consider before. CA & GA have to know the truth for two reasons: They lie in their depositions or attempt to be vague and clueless, which means they are in fact not only protecting their daughter but defending themselves because they know what happened and their anger....that from my own years of experience tells a tale in itself, they are TRANSFERRING their anger from their daughter to the lawyers and from themselves for bringing up an animal. CA made her keep this baby, she feels the fault but brought up her daughter to blame everyone else but herself....again like mother like daughter.
Oldsoul2
04-14-2009, 01:30 PM
FYI: I thought this would be very helpful for your charts! Article in the time stamped stread.
Baez entered the jail perimeter shortly after 8 p.m. and left at 9:15 p.m., according to official jail records.
:angel:
Just a quick questions, please excuse my lack of knowledge about this.....(I have never been in jail personally) but why does Baez visit the prisoner so late at night? Do they not allow him in during business hours?
ishouldbworking
04-14-2009, 01:34 PM
i believe he can come whenever he choses...including the middle of the night...
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/DeathPenaltyVisit038.jpg
The chart for Att'y Baez' visit to the jail after the prosecution moved for the death penalty in the case against his client. Moon was just square Saturn, what a drag. There is an intercept containing planets, H. 4 Aquarius with ruler of H. 5 therein. As you well know by now, intercepts reek of secrets, concealment and deception. There are hidden factors about the situation and there will be two outcomes because what is masked is in the House of final results.
As you can well imagine, I was smiling as I handwrote the interpretation under the pictured horoscope. There are some things that must remain unsaid but they will arise as an issue later, like a bolt out of the cold blue air.
Part of Fortune, as one would expect on hearing of a death penalty, is the Part of Misfortune in the Sign of Pisces. Do not forget that there was an occultation of the star Antares and Prisoner's Saturn this very day square the Part of Misfortune. Also, Venus is at solstice point of H. 12 (the cusp). That means matters of the past and self-destructive acts are tripped off now and create a fork in the road.
With such a late degree on H. 4, again we are given notice that location of this drama is about to change. There is desperation because Venus is falling over backward at the 29th° and Moon is square Saturn and Moon & Venus rule the day and the hour. See center of chart. Jupiter, ruling the visitor Baez is in crisis at 21° of a Fixed Sign, experiencing anxiety while waiting for matters to change and driven to extremes. A row is in the offing but the change of location will assist in resolving the issues causing tension and quarreling. This could be a change of courtroom and then a change of venue. Mercury is about to go critical during the visit which lasted an hour and 15' and the Sun will go critical Wednesday night. Who will put out all of these fires?
With Pluto holding a position in H. 3, much goes unsaid but Pluto's solstice point is the Cusp of H. 3 and body language talks a good game.
salvarenga
04-14-2009, 05:02 PM
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/DeathPenaltyVisit038.jpg
The chart for Att'y Baez' visit to the jail after the prosecution moved for the death penalty in the case against his client. Moon was just square Saturn, what a drag. There is an intercept containing planets, H. 4 Aquarius with ruler of H. 5 therein. As you well know by now, intercepts reek of secrets, concealment and deception. There are hidden factors about the situation and there will be two outcomes because what is masked is in the House of final results.
As you can well imagine, I was smiling as I handwrote the interpretation under the pictured horoscope. There are some things that must remain unsaid but they will arise as an issue later, like a bolt out of the cold blue air.
Part of Fortune, as one would expect on hearing of a death penalty, is the Part of Misfortune in the Sign of Pisces. Do not forget that there was an occultation of the star Antares and Prisoner's Saturn this very day square the Part of Misfortune. Also, Venus is at solstice point of H. 12 (the cusp). That means matters of the past and self-destructive acts are tripped off now and create a fork in the road.
With such a late degree on H. 4, again we are given notice that location of this drama is about to change. There is desperation because Venus is falling over backward at the 29th° and Moon is square Saturn and Moon & Venus rule the day and the hour. See center of chart. Jupiter, ruling the visitor Baez is in crisis at 21° of a Fixed Sign, experiencing anxiety while waiting for matters to change and driven to extremes. A row is in the offing but the change of location will assist in resolving the issues causing tension and quarreling. This could be a change of courtroom and then a change of venue. Mercury is about to go critical during the visit which lasted an hour and 15' and the Sun will go critical Wednesday night. Who will put out all of these fires?
With Pluto holding a position in H. 3, much goes unsaid but Pluto's solstice point is the Cusp of H. 3 and body language talks a good game.
I don't know why I am giggling while I write this but......regarding your interpretation of the pictured horoscope......All I can think about is the Twizzler incident. Could there have been a tiny bit of truth to that at all? Is she in love with Baez? Are the feelings mutual? Good Lord, I don't know why I find this so comical. But I just have this vision of her fawning all over him and making a fool out of herself.....or is it the other way around? I wonder what Baez's wife thinks of these late evening visits?
ishouldbworking
04-14-2009, 05:11 PM
I wonder what Baez's wife thinks of these late evening visits?
i do too...his wedding ring has been noticable absent for the past few court hearings...
In looking at the core legal beagles of October, Todd Edward Macaluso has to be included. He was born 11 October, 1962. His own natal Mars is eclipsed on July 22 this year, so his troubles may catch up with him. Otherwise, he will be yet another Libran lawyer at the trial.
twomanywords
04-14-2009, 09:26 PM
What about Jose B telling D Casey not to call police if they found Caylee?
Is he going to be able to stay on the case even though he did that?
Thanks
Also, Macaluso is fraught with controversy and lawsuits etc.
How can he even be considered:(
magic-cat
04-14-2009, 11:22 PM
Less than one hour away from the 15th and much has transpired to illuminate the dawning of that day, in gloom for Miss Casey. She of all people knows what things she did to Caylee. She of all people knows what drugs were administered to that baby. She of all people KNOWS why this is back on the table. Something has had to have come back in testing that has revealed that there were mitigating factors-such as prescription drugs or chloroform being administered to the baby. OR she left her fingerprints and or dna on the tape perhaps? Maybe even a combination of any and or all of these. Who knows better than anyone? Casey does, and as this day dawns for her I pray that is as was forecast, a day that she will wish had never dawned.
And the whole week is a disaster for Prisoner. If she could only cut and paste tiny illustrations from the web to cover up these calendar dates, M through F, April 13 to April 17. But she is the protectorate of a small cult comprising brother, mother, father and lawyers. They bring the incense and burnt offerings and kiss the proxy bracelets and kneel. And add their coins, of course, to the coffer. Their awareness of the forces arrayed against Idol is keen and grows with the days.
Born with Jupiter in her Sun Sign, the long back and forth of Venus has increased their devotions. Nothing is asked of Idol, only that she not shatter. When Venus stationed on her self love, they added theirs. Now direct on her Sun, her followers who hang on and parse her every word and gesture seeking insight into her mysteries, prostrate themselves. The cult has never felt such unity.
butterfly1978
04-15-2009, 09:12 AM
This has probably already been asked, but I cant find the answer Does George really beleive this crap or is he putting up a front, for Cindy, Casey and the rest of the world?
salvarenga
04-15-2009, 09:29 AM
And the whole week is a disaster for Prisoner. If she could only cut and paste tiny illustrations from the web to cover up these calendar dates, M through F, April 13 to April 17. But she is the protectorate of a small cult comprising brother, mother, father and lawyers. They bring the incense and burnt offerings and kiss the proxy bracelets and kneel. And add their coins, of course, to the coffer. Their awareness of the forces arrayed against Idol is keen and grows with the days.
Born with Jupiter in her Sun Sign, the long back and forth of Venus has increased their devotions. Nothing is asked of Idol, only that she not shatter. When Venus stationed on her self love, they added theirs. Now direct on her Sun, her followers who hang on and parse her every word and gesture seeking insight into her mysteries, prostrate themselves. The cult has never felt such unity.
This made me throw up in my mouth a little. (Figuratively speaking, of course) These people, all of them lawyers included, are living with their heads in the sand. Oh to see the look on all their faces when Lady Justice brings down the gavel on her.
If I have understood things correctly, she will not receive the death penalty but she will be found guilty. As I laid awake last night, my own 3 year old had fallen asleep next to me, I began to think...you know what I am glad she will not get the death penalty. Then she would gain even more groupies and remain in some type of special custody. Any other sentence and she gets thrown into the reality of general population. Oh what a field day they will have with Miss Priss. If she thinks she's having sleepless nights now, just wait till she has to stay awake at night on watch so she doesn't get shanked.
Death would be too easy. The torture of general population seems a fine punishment.
Edumacate
04-15-2009, 10:05 AM
:laugh: I am guessing that Jose' has convinced Casey the state has put the death penalty on the table because they are intimidated by his "lawyering" abilities. :rolleyes:
We all have it wrong, it has nothing to do with her guilt. The state is simply threatened by his talent. :gavel:
Lovejac
04-15-2009, 11:32 AM
:laugh: I am guessing that Jose' has convinced Casey the state has put the death penalty on the table because they are intimidated by his "lawyering" abilities. :rolleyes:
We all have it wrong, it has nothing to do with her guilt. The state is simply threatened by his talent. :gavel:
What an awesome first post! Welcome to Webslueths. BTW, I LOVE your screen name.
Lovejac
04-15-2009, 11:40 AM
I don't know why I am giggling while I write this but......regarding your interpretation of the pictured horoscope......All I can think about is the Twizzler incident. Could there have been a tiny bit of truth to that at all? Is she in love with Baez? Are the feelings mutual? Good Lord, I don't know why I find this so comical. But I just have this vision of her fawning all over him and making a fool out of herself.....or is it the other way around? I wonder what Baez's wife thinks of these late evening visits?
You are not alone in your visualization. I have and continue to have my suspicions. I pray that this situation comes out of the shadows.
For the life of me I cannot understand the power that this nasty girl has over her family and attorney.
Oldsoul2
04-15-2009, 11:49 AM
You are not alone in your visualization. I have and continue to have my suspicions. I pray that this situation comes out of the shadows.
For the life of me I cannot understand the power that this nasty girl has over her family and attorney.
Hi Lovejac! I agree....what I think is she is a walking head game and she speaks her lies with a lot of conviction which makes people believe she is telling the truth, have you noticed her emphasis on words when she speaks....Absolutely etc... Also, her parents especially CA has played an indirect role in teaching her daughter control over her emotions and understands this language...her lawyer....well he gets paid to do it!
Oldsoul2
04-15-2009, 04:37 PM
I'm starting to sound like Leonard Padilla blaming CA...Hope NG is not on this site
butterfly1978
04-15-2009, 05:36 PM
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-funding-041509,0,1850070.story
Is there anyway we can find out if this Congressman has connections with Casey, or Caylee.
I find it odd that a Congressman wants to set aside funds for a missing program in the name of Caylee Anthony when technically Caylee was never missing but murdered by her own mother. Why not dedicate this money to a known missing person such as Jessica Lunsford who was kidnapped and killed by a SO.
This really has my hinky meter going.....What is this guys ties to this?
butterfly1978
04-15-2009, 05:38 PM
expanding on my thought in the above post, not trying to start rumors just curious, could he be funding the defence? Could he be Caylees father?
I just do not understand this its very strange in my opinion.
butterfly1978
04-15-2009, 05:43 PM
I am sorry I should have included this information.
Alan Mark Grayson born March 13, 1958 in Bronx, New York
C.A. took a political angle on this case prior to the elections last November, remember that? She may be trying to exert influence; we hope not. I saw her in footage filmed last fall, accusing the S.A. of persecuting her daughter so as to win re-election.
Salem
04-15-2009, 07:26 PM
C.A. took a political angle on this case prior to the elections last November, remember that? She may be trying to exert influence; we hope not. I saw her in footage filmed last fall, accusing the S.A. of persecuting her daughter so as to win re-election.
Oh, I so remember this Tuba. Not only did she attack the State Attorney, she tried to attack the Sheriff - BUT the Sheriff was not running for re-election, so that fell a tad flat.
Salem
Jersey*Girl
04-15-2009, 08:12 PM
Astros, with all the speculation and reporting surrounding JO, I'm wondering if you could do a chart on him to either rule him in, or adversely rule him out, as Caylee's father.
According to his MySpace, his birth data is as follows:
Born: 11-29-82 (pic on profile)
Died: 7-10-06 (pic on profile)
Birth Place: Tampa, FL (from his survey)
March 29th 2004 - he was hit in an auto accident (hit & run) and it left him with a herniated disc (he had spinal surgery for complete disc replacement 1/11/06) (from his own words in his blogs)
Lived in Orlando & Cocoa Beach...Died in Cocoa Beach (news reports & forums)
Info taken from his MySpace profile at link:
http://www.myspace.com/must65tang
It is important to note that his MySpace profile has been kept up by someone close to him and is being done so as a tribute to his memory. They've posted an update as to how he could be an innocent bystander that the media or public may have latched onto (in so many words). I wonder if it's even important to know who really is Caylee's father, however, if this guy was her daddy and he committed suicide right around the time Casey started going downhill, then maybe his passing played a part in the choices she's made. Also, I'd like to note that if the charts do suggest he may be Caylee's dad, then hopefully GOD forgave his suicide and he is with his daughter in heaven.
Hugs to you all,
Jersey
Editing to add this: I didn't want this post to be confused with an earlier JO. They are not the same person, only share the same initials. This person is being named in Globe magrag and also at the following link:
http://www.deadlyroads.com/archives06july.shtml
7-10 Two years after being involved in a hit and run accident, which ended his ability to surf (his passion) and left him in constant pain, 23 year old JO (I redacted his full name) took his unused surfboard for one final ride, ending it by committing suicide off Cocoa Beach, Florida. Joshua, among many others each year, are the untold victims of hit and run drivers.
(Pulled from Florida Today)
aksleuth
04-15-2009, 11:57 PM
I don't know why I am giggling while I write this but......regarding your interpretation of the pictured horoscope......All I can think about is the Twizzler incident. Could there have been a tiny bit of truth to that at all? Is she in love with Baez? Are the feelings mutual? Good Lord, I don't know why I find this so comical. But I just have this vision of her fawning all over him and making a fool out of herself.....or is it the other way around? I wonder what Baez's wife thinks of these late evening visits?
I haven't read past your post yet, so I don't know what others have responded, but since the beginning of their "days at the office" while she was on house arrest, I thought HE was the one all gaga over her. I felt she was playing him for his usefulness because I don't see a whole lot of love pouring from her. Methinks the attorney has been bitten by KC's lovebug for quite a while now.
Thanks for the charts and the explanations, Tuba. Good work!
aksleuth
04-16-2009, 12:10 AM
:laugh: I am guessing that Jose' has convinced Casey the state has put the death penalty on the table because they are intimidated by his "lawyering" abilities. :rolleyes:
We all have it wrong, it has nothing to do with her guilt. The state is simply threatened by his talent. :gavel:
By golly, I think you've got it!
Thank you for "edumacating" us. :wink:
aksleuth
04-16-2009, 12:36 AM
Astros, with all the speculation and reporting surrounding JO, I'm wondering if you could do a chart on him to either rule him in, or adversely rule him out, as Caylee's father.
According to his MySpace, his birth data is as follows:
Born: 11-29-82 (pic on profile)
Died: 7-10-06 (pic on profile)
Birth Place: Tampa, FL (from his survey)
March 29th 2004 - he was hit in an auto accident (hit & run) and it left him with a herniated disc (he had spinal surgery for complete disc replacement 1/11/06) (from his own words in his blogs)
Lived in Orlando & Cocoa Beach...Died in Cocoa Beach (news reports & forums)
Info taken from his MySpace profile at link:
http://www.myspace.com/must65tang
It is important to note that his MySpace profile has been kept up by someone close to him and is being done so as a tribute to his memory. They've posted an update as to how he could be an innocent bystander that the media or public may have latched onto (in so many words). I wonder if it's even important to know who really is Caylee's father, however, if this guy was her daddy and he committed suicide right around the time Casey started going downhill, then maybe his passing played a part in the choices she's made. Also, I'd like to note that if the charts do suggest he may be Caylee's dad, then hopefully GOD forgave his suicide and he is with his daughter in heaven.
Hugs to you all,
Jersey
Editing to add this: I didn't want this post to be confused with an earlier JO. They are not the same person, only share the same initials. This person is being named in Globe magrag and also at the following link:
http://www.deadlyroads.com/archives06july.shtml
7-10 Two years after being involved in a hit and run accident, which ended his ability to surf (his passion) and left him in constant pain, 23 year old JO (I redacted his full name) took his unused surfboard for one final ride, ending it by committing suicide off Cocoa Beach, Florida. Joshua, among many others each year, are the untold victims of hit and run drivers.
(Pulled from Florida Today)
Oh, my! Another one! This makes the fourth or fifth guy killed in an accident (or as a result of one) somehow associated with KC? :eek: Or is he the one mentioned by KC's friend Melina?
This is too much!
Jersey*Girl
04-16-2009, 09:28 AM
Good morning Astros,
Re: my post from last night...there is a poster by the name of macawsj which is on the "Globe" thread in Caylee's forum. She has informed that she's the one that keeps up JO's MySpace profile. I find no reason to doubt who she is. She's left a few nice posts concerning JO, 2 of which I'm bringing to your attention. She has some wisdom in these words, and I personally couldn't agree with her more. Have a nice day everyone!
Here's the posts:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3613813&postcount=170
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3613559&postcount=162
:blowkiss:
Jersey
nanny1
04-16-2009, 09:58 AM
I have a question for all our wonderful astrologist ??? Does anyone know how Casey's evening was last night..Sleepless I hope !!:clap::clap:
Sun was sextile Neptune for construction of imaginary hypotheses as to who might have done what in the last half of June, 2008 while the Moon last night was in Capricorn. That is the Moon of slow and careful planning and she, the Moon, was applying to Mercury by trine thus trying to inject plausibility & practicality into the notions. The challenge is that strategy, Pallas Athena, opposed that Moon from a position that relates to evidence gathered from the end of June. That will refer to shoes and soil, duct tape vestiges of the killer, cell pings and much, much more. So all the supposed speculative theories cross reality, are tripped, stumble and fall. Pallas Athena relates to the crime scenes of home and Suburban Drive because she is on the degrees where the Sun and Ceres (mothering) were positioned last June.
Due to Mars together with Uranus, exact, squaring the prisoner's own Mars conjunct Uranus from her Mercury, sleep was impossible without either a sedative or some workable and efficient ritual like self-hypnosis. Sun sextile Neptune is that bedtime story. So that is how Wednesday night passed, concocting alternatives to personal guilt while agitated and in panic.
Question for the cult (described yesterday). Since all cult members, including Baez, have owned in public to the certain knowledge that Idol lies like a flatfish, why would any and all of them assume that she would for once in her life tell it straight when accused of capital murder?
magic-cat
04-16-2009, 11:03 AM
Thank you Tuba. THAT is one point that seems to have escaped everyone on team Casey. She has done nothing but lie for all of these years, apparently since Middle School, so why WOULD she tell the truth NOW in this most serious and dire circumstance? If she could not tell the truth about where she was spending nights with Caylee (Ricardo's) for fear of offending her mother, then why would she ever tell the truth about what happened to Caylee when she knows that her mother would never forgive her, and further, that her mother MIGHT turn on her if she gave a voice to the truth and assist the prosecution in sealing her fate? Cindy KNOWS what happened-but she does not want the rest of the world to KNOW. She would rather see her daughter imprisoned for life or even put to death rather than admit the truth and have THAT ugly blemish on her reputation. It seems that take it to your grave is the order from on high, and it appears that may be just what Casey plans to do.
Oldsoul2
04-16-2009, 11:37 AM
The reference to "the cult" Didn't Baez say in an interview yesterday something to the effect that if the State thinks putting the death penalty back on the table will intimidate his client into a confession, they are sadly mistaken? I think Baez is the one who is sadly mistaken to think that the State of Florida would try a death penalty case that is NATIONAL news if they didn't have the evidence to back their victory. Where do these people get the notion that they would use this as a ploy for confession? "The cult" are the only people who still don't get that Casey WILL NEVER tell the truth and the prosecution already knows this and won't destroy their reputation for this baby killer like Baez, her family and all the lawyers involved when everyone is watching. The lawyer that originally was CA & GA's lawyer, can't remember his name right now, backed out early in the game and wanted nothing to do with this......BRAVO to him, he will be rewarded with more clients than ruining his reputation defending these people and gaining hostility from the public...who aren't stupid
Oldsoul2
04-16-2009, 11:43 AM
Mark Nejame...sorry had to look it up
salvarenga
04-16-2009, 12:35 PM
Sun was sextile Neptune for construction of imaginary hypotheses as to who might have done what in the last half of June, 2008 while the Moon last night was in Capricorn. That is the Moon of slow and careful planning and she, the Moon, was applying to Mercury by trine thus trying to inject plausibility & practicality into the notions. The challenge is that strategy, Pallas Athena, opposed that Moon from a position that relates to evidence gathered from the end of June. That will refer to shoes and soil, duct tape vestiges of the killer, cell pings and much, much more. So all the supposed speculative theories cross reality, are tripped, stumble and fall. Pallas Athena relates to the crime scenes of home and Suburban Drive because she is on the degrees where the Sun and Ceres (mothering) were positioned last June.
Due to Mars together with Uranus, exact, squaring the prisoner's own Mars conjunct Uranus from her Mercury, sleep was impossible without either a sedative or some workable and efficient ritual like self-hypnosis. Sun sextile Neptune is that bedtime story. So that is how Wednesday night passed, concocting alternatives to personal guilt while agitated and in panic.
Question for the cult (described yesterday). Since all cult members, including Baez, have owned in public to the certain knowledge that Idol lies like a flatfish, why would any and all of them assume that she would for once in her life tell it straight when accused of capital murder?
Anything astrologically that points to when we might be privy to these findings? We need a new document dump.
nanny1
04-16-2009, 12:47 PM
Thank you Tuba
aksleuth
04-16-2009, 11:02 PM
Question for the cult (described yesterday). Since all cult members, including Baez, have owned in public to the certain knowledge that Idol lies like a flatfish, why would any and all of them assume that she would for once in her life tell it straight when accused of capital murder?
We can see that, Tuba, but the cult are baffled at how we don't get it. To them it makes no sense. Yes, she has lied in the past, daily, several times a day, lying to be lying (words from her bro), but now, NOW, she is telling the truth, even though there is nothing substantial to back her words. :rolleyes: How foolish of us to be so blind. How dare us, the sheriff's office, and the state of Florida!
static
04-16-2009, 11:18 PM
I do not know if this is an appropriate question. Is there any way to tell if KC will get the death penalty by looking at her natal birthchart. Thank you
aksleuth
04-16-2009, 11:29 PM
I do not know if this is an appropriate question. Is there any way to tell if KC will get the death penalty by looking at her natal birthchart. Thank you
I think that may fall into the forbidden area of "predicting". However, it would be interesting to look at the charts of others who have been given the death penalty, and of those executed, then comparing them to Casey's chart as a learning tool. Also, you'd want to look at charts of those who escaped the DP in some way: not convicted, convicted with a lesser sentence such as life in prison, those who appealed and got a lesser sentence, those who sat on death row and died a natural death.......
That's actually the way one learns astrology, by comparing many, many charts with similar situations.
salvarenga
04-17-2009, 08:54 AM
I think that may fall into the forbidden area of "predicting". However, it would be interesting to look at the charts of others who have been given the death penalty, and of those executed, then comparing them to Casey's chart as a learning tool. Also, you'd want to look at charts of those who escaped the DP in some way: not convicted, convicted with a lesser sentence such as life in prison, those who appealed and got a lesser sentence, those who sat on death row and died a natural death.......
That's actually the way one learns astrology, by comparing many, many charts with similar situations.
Actually, Tuba covered this a few posts back. If I understood her interpretation of the chart for the notice of the intent to seek death penalty. Casey will be convicted but she will not receive the death penalty. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
Oldsoul2
04-17-2009, 10:23 AM
Actually, Tuba covered this a few posts back. If I understood her interpretation of the chart for the notice of the intent to seek death penalty. Casey will be convicted but she will not receive the death penalty. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
I remember that post too. Normally when it's a first offense regardless of the crime, unless the person went on a rampage killing spree, they won't receive death but will get life without parole. The prosecution can file for the penalty to ensure the lesser punishment will be life. If you ask me, when you kill your own child, 23 hours a day by yourself for the rest of your life is much worse, especially in an environment that doesn't take well to baby killers.
Quick question, last night on NG a friend of Casey's said that she wasn't smart enough to do this herself...I agree but has there been any indications in the charts that someone was with her? She was all of 100 pounds soaking wet, how did she transport the body several times by herself?
Oldsoul2
04-17-2009, 11:43 AM
Forgot to put another questions in here that is disturbing me. Everyone is concerned with who the father is and if he died etc.....I would like to know WHY CA had to hide and lie about Casey's pregnancy....I'm starting to think that this person is married, alive and maybe a public figure of some sort. Not usual to hide something like this when eventually the baby will be born. Casey did tell a friend that he worked at Universal and they went to a hotel near by...I'm thinking that's not too far from her fragmented truth....
Salem
04-17-2009, 12:10 PM
Respectfully snipped & bolded ~ IQuick question, last night on NG a friend of Casey's said that she wasn't smart enough to do this herself...I agree but has there been any indications in the charts that someone was with her? She was all of 100 pounds soaking wet, how did she transport the body several times by herself?
I saw this on NG also and just shook my head. My question to Casey's friend is: "how smart do you have to be to kill a defenseless 2-year old?" KC lied to her family about being pregnant and got away with it for many months, she lied about having a job and got away with it for years. She lied about where she was for 31 days. She lied about the Zanni car wreck and visiting her "boyfriend." All of which apparently happened AFTER Caylee went missing. In her family - you don't have to be smart, just a liar. And it does not appear that she needed to be a good liar. More evidence of that cult like attitude we see.
Salem
FifthEssence
04-17-2009, 12:12 PM
In terms of the make up and natal traits of Cindy, have a look at our June 2008 Calendar on June 5th - her birthdate. There are three postings there which should help you gain some insight.
This one in particular: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2848176&postcount=638
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/calendar.php?s=&c=5&week=&month=6&year=2008
RhythmicSun
04-17-2009, 01:46 PM
Your post above, FifthEssence, reminds me that since so many people are interested in the dynamic of Cindy Anthony they would likely be very interested in reading Kathleen A. Burt's treatment of Gemini in her book Archetypes of the Zodiac. Alibris has some copies that are affordable (and also astronomically priced). The book is written from a Jungian and mythological perspective. The treatment of Gemini is superior, as is Scorpio and of course all the others. It gives invaluable insight into the duality that is Gemini. Check it out. I will put this info in the Library thread as well.
Edited to add
As an astrologer Fifth, I'm sure you have already checked it out, that comment was for others! :D ;)
Speaking of outside astrologers, Antero Alli (of Seattle) wrote about II: "Continually interacting to gather enough information about its options." Cindy is transparently doing just that. Some of that gathered information adheres for later use in retaliation too, Mercury sextile Mars in Pisces and square Pluto in Leo, always with 60 lbs. of steam pressure behind the retort. We sure saw that in the tic toc at Morgan & Morgan. Information as ammunition, that's Cindy version of II.
In July interviews with the police, Cindy presented the story of the caravan to Tampa and was assured that this never took place, her daughter remaining always in Orlando, provably. But why did Cindy present it? As Salem writes, it had to be a lie.
How & why on God's green earth would a mother socialise with named kidnapper (in carefree spirit and on assignment yet) after the abduction? And the prisoner fully believed "the kidnapping" had occurred on June 9th! Z.F.-G. and the caravan were supposedly careering down the freeway long after the launch of 31 days in which Prisoner had not seen her daughter.
In this maddest of all clangers, if Caylee were along for the trip, Blanchard & Sawgrass never happened and if she was not, what is Prisoner doing with the kidnapper? Enjoying her company, staying with her in the hotel, seeing Busch Garden, visiting this felon in hospital. This is the sort of rebuttal that rocks Cindy like heavy return fire and puts wind in her jaws.
For Jersey Girl, Josh O. was checked out. He has two Fire Sign placements the same degree as Caylee's, which causes further scrutiny. However, post hit & run injury in 2004, his body was not in shape to work at Universal and take Prisoner to a hotel so as to conceive Caylee. Stranger things have happened but to me, not feasible.
sassy_texasbelle2
04-18-2009, 02:11 PM
In July interviews with the police, Cindy presented the story of the caravan to Tampa and was assured that this never took place, her daughter remaining always in Orlando, provably. But why did Cindy present it? As Salem writes, it had to be a lie.
How & why on God's green earth would a mother socialise with named kidnapper (in carefree spirit and on assignment yet) after the abduction? And the prisoner fully believed "the kidnapping" had occurred on June 9th! Z.F.-G. and the caravan were supposedly careering down the freeway long after the launch of 31 days in which Prisoner had not seen her daughter.
In this maddest of all clangers, if Caylee were along for the trip, Blanchard & Sawgrass never happened and if she was not, what is Prisoner doing with the kidnapper? Enjoying her company, staying with her in the hotel, seeing Busch Garden, visiting this felon in hospital. This is the sort of rebuttal that rocks Cindy like heavy return fire and puts wind in her jaws.
Goes to prove once again that CA is as big a liar as her daughter. I cannot wait to see CA blown out of the water in court. She deserves it 100% for all her KC lies. Playing LE, SA, and the public for fools is going to blow so high in court the roof may be on the front lawn. Gorgeous will just sit there and watch it happen, probably laughing on the inside at what fools her parents look like on the stand. I am sorry for the A's in one way, then not at all in another. This whole case for them is like Caylee Who anymore. They like to play games, they will find out they do not have a clue how to play this one. :woohoo:
Tuba thank you so much for all you do it is so interesting.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/MarsIntoAries2009039.jpg
As Soulscape always reminds us the 0° Aries point of the Zodiac is so important. It is a degree of excitement and notoriety and beginnings. All the more so, at the ingress of Mars onto the degree, which occurs on Wednesday, April 22. It is a signal astronomical and astrological event and it takes place at 8:45 a.m. in Orlando. How strange to see the prisoner's poor judgment splashed all over the map. Battle Royal in the offing with Defense and Prosecution exactly squared off and Mars ruling the police investigation, H. 6 and the H. of homicidal Circumstances, 11. It is also, 11, the H. of Planning and the Sun is there on a degree of planning, ruling H. 3 of evidence.
Moon and Venus are desperate and dispose of the Mercury in Taurus and somehow, we see that because they are elevated in House 10, on view. Either we will be seeing the infirmary video or some look at prisoner even more recent and just as fraught.
Jersey*Girl
04-18-2009, 05:20 PM
For Jersey Girl, Josh O. was checked out. He has two Fire Sign placements the same degree as Caylee's, which causes further scrutiny. However, post hit & run injury in 2004, his body was not in shape to work at Universal and take Prisoner to a hotel so as to conceive Caylee. Stranger things have happened but to me, not feasible.
Thank you so much Tuba. I was thinking the same thing (difficult during recuperation), but was hoping a chart could rule him in or out to put the talk to rest. I feel so bad for his family b/c he's been dead for a couple of years and now his name is plastered in a ragmag. If he's not the father, then his family was put through even more heartache for nothing. So very sad. Again, thank you for this information. :blowkiss:
shgrbkr
04-20-2009, 06:13 AM
I would like to ask the astros if this week the stars will be bringing relief to the prisoner, more of the same, or somewhere inbetween. LP is scheduled to be deposed this week, and I wonder what effect that might have on cult's leader.
Idol and the lawyers of her cult will be deep in conference this week, on many occasions. The Sun is on her Lunar Node in Taurus sextile the asteroid of strategy, Pallas Athena but Juno of committed relationships and jealousy is on her Jupiter. Both Mars and Venus, yes together, galvanize her Sun at the end of Pisces and draw attention to love behind bars. The square of poor judgment has already formed in the Fixed Signs of Taurus and Aquarius; being that Mercury is in exact aspect to her own Mercury, Idol is the one exercising poor judgment and making news in Orlando. The Mars ingress chart for Wednesday is set for Orlando and is already on the board. By Wednesday, the Moon will join Mars and Venus atop the Sun of Idol. "Scandal!" is a cry produced from the mouths of non-believers and does not receive cult attention.
salvarenga
04-20-2009, 10:56 AM
I have been wondering why we have never heard more about the lady from LP's office (Tracy?) and what she may have learned while living in the house. At one point didn't detectives go to CA to interview her and she obtained a lawyer? Will anything she saw or heard make it into the trial? Do you think she under some type of non-disclosure? I haven't seen her on any of the witness lists. Is there anything in the stars that indicates she may have some type of valuable info to offer?
Oldsoul2
04-20-2009, 11:45 AM
I was just curious of Dominic Casey...will he ever be deposed? I know that he got out of the first appointment and have never heard since what the result of that was? Rescheduled??? I truly believe he has the answers to some of the questions regarding the knowledge of the body prior to it being found...also wasn't there some news recently that the A's ow him money and there's a dispute over that?
The way to check this is to look at her planet in a past chart. Unfortunately Tracy only appears in one that I can recall. But that is enough, one is all we need. It is the chart for a bailed KC calling the police on the protesters. I will review it when I get back today to see what I can regarding the female bodyguard.
salvarenga
04-20-2009, 02:00 PM
The way to check this is to look at her planet in a past chart. Unfortunately Tracy only appears in one that I can recall. But that is enough, one is all we need. It is the chart for a bailed KC calling the police on the protesters. I will review it when I get back today to see what I can regarding the female bodyguard.
I would think she would be someone that Morgan would want to depose as well.
Lovejac
04-20-2009, 04:02 PM
Idol and the lawyers of her cult will be deep in conference this week, on many occasions. The Sun is on her Lunar Node in Taurus sextile the asteroid of strategy, Pallas Athena but Juno of committed relationships and jealousy is on her Jupiter. Both Mars and Venus, yes together, galvanize her Sun at the end of Pisces and draw attention to love behind bars. The square of poor judgment has already formed in the Fixed Signs of Taurus and Aquarius; being that Mercury is in exact aspect to her own Mercury, Idol is the one exercising poor judgment and making news in Orlando. The Mars ingress chart for Wednesday is set for Orlando and is already on the board. By Wednesday, the Moon will join Mars and Venus atop the Sun of Idol. "Scandal!" is a cry produced from the mouths of non-believers and does not receive cult attention.
I can hardly wait!!!!
salvarenga, found the September 19 chart that included the presence of Tracy M., female bodyguard in the home being protested. Tracy hold a very strong contractual position, Venus at 24° Libra thus she is legally protected and what she overheard is not grist for the media mill serving the public. In every sit down, she is represented by counsel and so far, has met with Yuri Melich in Californa and with FBI, for questioning. No major aspects are shown in her future as of September 19 but she is the stem of a YOD. Venus as stem is rather weak but not as weak as the Moon, which really does not qualify. Granting Venus sufficient strength to form the stem of a Y, Tuesday the 14th of May could see her name in the documents or courtroom conversation.
The contractual protection that both binds and protects her is the non-disclosure term in her employment contract, of course. But if her name surfaces next month, it would be in connection with the Hopespring house and Cindy. There is also a possibility of some word on this on Thursday and Friday, April 23 & 24, so your question is timely.
Since Dominic postponed his deposition without legal excuse that we know of, he can be compelled to sit at another date. However, he filed a complaint against J.B. and that is being investigated. Therefore, there is presently a conflict built into this deposition. He was deposed early in January around the time he scrubbed the press conference he and Jim H. had scheduled. That deposition is available in prosecution documents and was intriguing although replete with contradictions.
Oldsoul2
04-21-2009, 11:30 AM
This defense team is so unprofessional and has a God's gift complex!
This is the link for the request of Roy Cronk's ENTIRE cell phone records. Total invasion of his privacy....I agree. They need to pass the blame as usual:
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-casey-anthony-meter-reader-042109,0,5831750.story
salvarenga
04-21-2009, 03:50 PM
I just read on the main forum that George and Cindy will be on the Early Show tomorrow and Thursday. Now as if that were not enough, they are also Keynote Speakers at a conference in May for The Melanie Ilene Rieger Foundation. They are scheduled to speak on May 13th at 4:30pm for one hour and get this the title of their session is....Under Siege: A Homicide Survivor’s Story.
This angers me to no end. Why would anyone think they would have anything worthly to say? Not only that, take a look at what happened to Melanie Rieger, http://http://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/XTRAS/MemoryProject/IndividualPages/MelanieRieger.html
After reading about what happened to their own daughter and how the boyfriend lied, bagged her up and hid her body, tried to ditch his car, etc. Why would they want to hear what the Anthony's have to say?
I am sick to my stomach. When will someone put a stop to these people?
LambChop
04-21-2009, 04:20 PM
I just read on the main forum that George and Cindy will be on the Early Show tomorrow and Thursday. Now as if that were not enough, they are also Keynote Speakers at a conference in May for The Melanie Ilene Rieger Foundation. They are scheduled to speak on May 13th at 4:30pm for one hour and get this the title of their session is....Under Siege: A Homicide Survivor’s Story.
This angers me to no end. Why would anyone think they would have anything worthly to say? Not only that, take a look at what happened to Melanie Rieger, http://http://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/XTRAS/MemoryProject/IndividualPages/MelanieRieger.html
After reading about what happened to their own daughter and how the boyfriend lied, bagged her up and hid her body, tried to ditch his car, etc. Why would they want to hear what the Anthony's have to say?
I am sick to my stomach. When will someone put a stop to these people?
One can only hope that JM gets that day for a court date to reschedule GA's deposition. What would be the chances???
Oldsoul2
04-21-2009, 04:41 PM
I just read on the main forum that George and Cindy will be on the Early Show tomorrow and Thursday. Now as if that were not enough, they are also Keynote Speakers at a conference in May for The Melanie Ilene Rieger Foundation. They are scheduled to speak on May 13th at 4:30pm for one hour and get this the title of their session is....Under Siege: A Homicide Survivor’s Story.
This angers me to no end. Why would anyone think they would have anything worthly to say? Not only that, take a look at what happened to Melanie Rieger, http://http://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/XTRAS/MemoryProject/IndividualPages/MelanieRieger.html
After reading about what happened to their own daughter and how the boyfriend lied, bagged her up and hid her body, tried to ditch his car, etc. Why would they want to hear what the Anthony's have to say?
I am sick to my stomach. When will someone put a stop to these people?
I know...I really agree with you, the worst part is what I keep saying....SHE WASN'T A MISSING CHILD!!!!! She was murdered and in the company of her mother...that's not missing!!!! People are supported a foundation, Oprah is interviewing her which has just taken my total respect away and now these people want to her CA and GA cry their pity party to the world to save their daughter from the needle....I can't I need a break from this story...this world and the media attention just is losing their total scrupples!
misheley26
04-21-2009, 07:55 PM
I just read on the main forum that George and Cindy will be on the Early Show tomorrow and Thursday. Now as if that were not enough, they are also Keynote Speakers at a conference in May for The Melanie Ilene Rieger Foundation. They are scheduled to speak on May 13th at 4:30pm for one hour and get this the title of their session is....Under Siege: A Homicide Survivor’s Story.
This angers me to no end. Why would anyone think they would have anything worthly to say? Not only that, take a look at what happened to Melanie Rieger, http://http://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/XTRAS/MemoryProject/IndividualPages/MelanieRieger.html
After reading about what happened to their own daughter and how the boyfriend lied, bagged her up and hid her body, tried to ditch his car, etc. Why would they want to hear what the Anthony's have to say?
I am sick to my stomach. When will someone put a stop to these people?
I live in CT and the conference is in Cheshire, CT. I'm pondering going but not sure I'd be able to keep my mouth shut. Since I won't be able to stay away, I'll just resign myself to the fact I'll have to go to the hospital afterwards to get stitches in my tongue from biting it. Astros, would it be worthwhile to provide you with the actual time their presentation starts (i.e. if it starts at 4:31 or 4:37 as opposed to 4:30 on the dot?)
Thanks, Michelle (also known as, for this post...sick to my stomach and how dare you accept a speaking engagement the way you've titled it)
I would hope change of venue is declined. The Anthony's are doing their best to poison the jury pool with all this publicity they seek. Jose, GA and CA are working against you if you want a new trial location.
Just assuming you are addressing this, apostrophising, to the prisoner because no one posting on this thread cares about the venue for the trial.
FifthEssence
04-21-2009, 08:21 PM
BREAKING NEWS- Nancy Grace Show tonight.
OPRAH has CANCELLED the interview with the Anthony's !!!!!!!!!
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
copied from WFTV.com
""Based on the Anthonys' decision to appear on other programs, we have decided not to move forward with their interview on 'The Oprah Winfrey Show' at this time," the show said in a statement released to Eyewitness News on Tuesday afternoon.
precious
04-22-2009, 12:53 AM
Thank you Oprah, for not giving the Anthony's a soap box to spew more of their lies.
aksleuth
04-22-2009, 04:26 AM
I just read on the main forum that George and Cindy will be on the Early Show tomorrow and Thursday. Now as if that were not enough, they are also Keynote Speakers at a conference in May for The Melanie Ilene Rieger Foundation. They are scheduled to speak on May 13th at 4:30pm for one hour and get this the title of their session is....Under Siege: A Homicide Survivor’s Story.
This angers me to no end. Why would anyone think they would have anything worthly to say? Not only that, take a look at what happened to Melanie Rieger, http://http://www.survivorsofhomicide.com/XTRAS/MemoryProject/IndividualPages/MelanieRieger.html
After reading about what happened to their own daughter and how the boyfriend lied, bagged her up and hid her body, tried to ditch his car, etc. Why would they want to hear what the Anthony's have to say?
I am sick to my stomach. When will someone put a stop to these people?
I was equally sickened to read this. What are people thinking giving these people a forum? How does the plight of the Anthonys compare to the tragic death of that young woman and others like her? Why have Cindy speak, the one who is protecting the murderer of her own grandchild? This is beyond bizarre. I'm afraid this whole Anthony situation is showcasing what is wrong in this world. People are losing common sense.
Caylee wasn't missing. Why don't people get that? There was someone in her own family who knew exactly where she was for six long months! :furious:
It is April 22 . From Tuba's post last week, today could reveal something. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Oldsoul2
04-22-2009, 10:24 AM
Here's the article about the A's first interview this morning.....no surprises...just the usual claim of innocence...denial, you know
http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/tv/2009/04/george-cindy-anthony-deny-deny-deny-on-cbs.html
Oldsoul2
04-22-2009, 10:38 AM
Sorry here's the actual video.....what's going to be said at trial that's going to change what's been said and discovered up until now? Why would someone really sit in jail on murder and death penalty implications if they were innocent and not ratting out who she claims did this? Give me a break...
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/22/earlyshow/main4961225.shtml?tag=main_home_webExclusive
Oldsoul2
04-22-2009, 01:06 PM
Baez has to be one of the worst lawyers ever to approach the prosecutions witness list directly for their own cell phone records so he can save his client behind! Amy H and Roy C are refusing to allow Baez to have all their records that of which are not relevant. Especially Amy after being robbed by KC is asked to help Baez and her in anyway. He just exposes himself free willingly and again is refused by Strickland to have a private meeting....I would really reconsider putting my life in this guy's hands.....There is a GOD
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/04/legal-analyst-casey-anthonys-attorney-made-blunder/
salvarenga
04-22-2009, 03:00 PM
Not sure what relevance this may have but I just checked the My Orange Clerk site and found this update on Casey's file. Anyone ever heard of these names? Any idea what this could be about?
4/21/2009 EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE FILED FONIA THIMONS TO JEANNA TANNER
FifthEssence
04-22-2009, 03:22 PM
Not sure what relevance this may have but I just checked the My Orange Clerk site and found this update on Casey's file. Anyone ever heard of these names? Any idea what this could be about?
4/21/2009 EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE FILED FONIA THIMONS TO JEANNA TANNER
Have no idea. Did a google search as well. Nothing comes up associated w/ KC. Maybe? this has to do w/correspondence between jail personnel? just guessing
...
I am sick to my stomach. When will someone put a stop to these people?
(Respectfully snipped)
That someone must be we, the people. No one else can do it. It does appear the public tide is continuing to turn. More and more in the media are becoming disenchanted, imo, or at least paying attention to the negative feedback they get from those they serve.
I really hope the legislature gets involved and prevents this type of money grubbing misuse of a real tragedy from ever happening again. Otherwise, we may see more and more trying to buy a ticket on a similar gravy train like the Anthony's, imo.
ishouldbworking
04-22-2009, 05:47 PM
Motion Hearing for May 7th rescheduled for May 28th
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/042209motion_hearing_rescheduled
Yes, shouldbe, the hearing is deferred and we do not know why. The interpretation under the chart speaks to the change of mind because ! Mercury turns backward that very day, 7 May. I think the postponement frustrates both sides. We don't yet know whether the bar gives thumbs up or down to Baez after the more recent complaints. Keep in mind that it was Dominic who gossiped about unseemly jail behavior, later passed on by Hoover. And it was Dominic who filed a complaint that may contain more than one grievance or censure.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/MarsIntoAries2009039.jpg
As Soulscape always reminds us the 0° Aries point of the Zodiac is so important. It is a degree of excitement and notoriety and beginnings. All the more so, at the ingress of Mars onto the degree, which occurs on Wednesday, April 22. It is a signal astronomical and astrological event and it takes place at 8:45 a.m. in Orlando. How strange to see the prisoner's poor judgment splashed all over the map. Battle Royal in the offing with Defense and Prosecution exactly squared off and Mars ruling the police investigation, H. 6 and the H. of homicidal Circumstances, 11. It is also, 11, the H. of Planning and the Sun is there on a degree of planning, ruling H. 3 of evidence.
Moon and Venus are desperate and dispose of the Mercury in Taurus and somehow, we see that because they are elevated in House 10, on view. Either we will be seeing the infirmary video or some look at prisoner even more recent and just as fraught.
Just as the entry of Sun into Capricorn at Washington D.C. makes the Annual Ingress chart that yields government fortunes for the New Year, the chart for the entry of Mars into Aries should tell us what is happening in Orlando from now until the end of May when Mars leaves Aries to enter Taurus for June. The chart delivers information about this locale because it was cast in Orlando. Naturally, there are other matters that interest and affect the citizens of this city but this time, only the Anthony case is under the magnifying glass. :Banane37:
Oldsoul2
04-23-2009, 10:18 AM
WESH-Channel 2's Bob Kealing will have an interview with Anthony attorney Jose Baez at 11 tonight.
Second part of the morning interview with the A's
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/casey-anthony-jose-baez-tells-wesh-how-she-could-get-off-cbs-early-show-continues-george-cindy-inter.html#more
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/AnthonyComposite044.jpg
After the indictment, Pluto appeared in the jury sector of charts. Here Pluto is conjunct that cusp. The Moon applies to a trine of Pluto there, so the couple is trying to balance bad publicity by influencing the jury pool.
Marc Edmond Jones would tell them NO! The ruler of H. 3 and the ruler of H. 9 are adverse, so do not do t.v. interviews!
They push the limits of the law and 17° Libra 56' is four minutes from the degree of arrest. It is not the statements made during their interviews at investigation that are trouble, it is the statements made later that are contradictory and obstruct justice. Both Mercury and Jupiter afflict 17° Libra 56' and say, "Muzzle it!"
Saturn at the cusp of H. 2 threatens their solvency and Mars in H. 8 runs up debts and rules, along with Pluto, the House of income. They are reaching for a golden apple also (Moon applying to a trine of Pluto).
FifthEssence
04-23-2009, 01:21 PM
They push the limits of the law and 17° Libra 56' is four minutes from the degree of arrest.
Their legal advisor, Brad C. is up against the wall when it comes to CA. He could have told her 100 times to zip the 'ole mouth shut, but she won't have it.
If she continues to insist on talking, he may have to consider cutting himself loose from the nightmare. These interviews and contradictions are making his job impossible.
Saturn at the cusp of H. 2 threatens their solvency and Mars in H. 8 runs up debts and rules, along with Pluto, the House of income. They are reaching for a golden apple also (Moon applying to a trine of Pluto).
Pitiful they're in this negative financial position. Any monies that do come in (secret deals we are not privy to) will have to go to the Defense of their daughter who gets three square meals a day as they contemplate visiting the Dept. of Children & Families breadline for food stamps.
In the above composite chart, a meld of the two Anthonys and their natal charts, Uranus is antiscion of Mars in House 8 and Uranus = the prisoner. That means whatever transit hits Mars will reflexively react on Uranus and vice versa. Since these are two malefic planets as appearing here, that is bad news for the Anthonys and for her.
The recent reports of vomiting at her cell are confirmed by this horoscope and the habit or involuntary reaction appear serious. Uranus is found at the daughter's Sixth House cusp (turn the chart, please) and the Moon is applying to an inconjunct of that Uranus, a sickness aspect because the Moon rules the cusp of H. 6 of illness. Ivy Goldstein wrote a considerable amount of material on this aspect when involving the cusp of H. 1 and the cusp of H. 6. Mars in the daughter's H. 4 and Saturn at the Midheaven for her are talking. Her ambition for a verdict of not guilty is overly ambitious and she is riding for a fall.
Oldsoul2
04-23-2009, 01:23 PM
After the indictment, Pluto appeared in the jury sector of charts. Here Pluto is conjunct that cusp. The Moon applies to a trine of Pluto there, so the couple is trying to balance bad publicity by influencing the jury pool.
Marc Edmond Jones would tell them NO! The ruler of H. 3 and the ruler of H. 9 are adverse, so do not do t.v. interviews!
They push the limits of the law and 17° Libra 56' is four minutes from the degree of arrest. It is not the statements made during their interviews at investigation that are trouble, it is the statements made later that are contradictory and obstruct justice. Both Mercury and Jupiter afflict 17° Libra 56' and say, "Muzzle it!"
Saturn at the cusp of H. 2 threatens their solvency and Mars in H. 8 runs up debts and rules, along with Pluto, the House of income. They are reaching for a golden apple also (Moon applying to a trine of Pluto).
Tuba noticed something in your chart about solvency, sounds far fetched but remember KC telling people that the A's were giving her the house? We have definitely seen KC's revenge and hatred for her mother in many areas of this case, could it be KC's intentions have two purposes: get off and run free and financially destroy her mother in particular......are the A's going to lose their house or be in financial straights from bills trying to help their daughter?
salvarenga
04-23-2009, 01:37 PM
I know or at least I think I know that it's been said that the charts have not indicated that there would be any further charges, ex. obstruction for George, Cindy and Lee. If so, is this b/c they are throwing out all these inconsistencies without being under oath. Also, if that's the case, then what about the inconsistencies between the Morgan depos and other police intv's.
I just think they (Cindy, in particular) needs a good slap into reality or she's headed for a hard crash once guilty verdict is handed down. Maybe obstruction charges would shake them into the reality of the situation.
Any insight, astros?
I did look at their mutual home in this composite chart and it is legally protected. There will be problems as time ticks by but those problems will be overcome. They have good karma in this area of life and they do take excellent care of their property. In these times that are so bleak for them, the home is a huge comfort and they have EARNED it.
salvarenga
04-23-2009, 04:13 PM
Posted on the My Orange Clerk website today:
4/23/2009 A NOTICE OF PROVISION OF SUPPLEMENTAL DISCOVERY
Any ideas as to when the public will get to see this? I'm ready for a new document dump.
**BTW, any idea when Angel will be returning. I really miss her updates. She is always so on top of things. Angel if you're reading.....you are missed. :blowkiss:
ishouldbworking
04-23-2009, 04:53 PM
that USUALLY means we will see one within a few days...
...hmmmm...
more of Tuba's papers... :)
Without knowing the subject of the documents, there is not a ready determiner for when we can expect a release but tomorrow would be such a perfect day. Mercury will be exactly sextile Uranus and late in the day, there is a New Moon.
LambChop
04-23-2009, 05:56 PM
I did look at their mutual home in this composite chart and it is legally protected. There will be problems as time ticks by but those problems will be overcome. They have good karma in this area of life and they do take excellent care of their property. In these times that are so bleak for them, the home is a huge comfort and they have EARNED it.
I believe there is a Homestead Act in Florida where the homes are protected. So that would mean the worst that can happen is they will lose their insurance protection or get stuck with very high premiums.
You're correct; the Homestead provisions of Florida law do indeed protect primary residence homeowners from creditors to a large degree, among other things, such as a property tax exemption to lower the taxes on one's primary home. However, that protection is not inviolate and in certain circumstances a primary home may have a lien placed against it and/or be sold to satisfy a debt that meets the criteria set out by the legislature and the courts. Occasionally, a lien is misplaced on homestead property and is an avoidable lien, or an unenforcable lien, even if the property is sold. But again, in certain circumstances, the homestead provision will not prevent foreclosure to satisfy a lien placed due to an unrelated debt.
Voluntary liens, such as mortgages, have little or nothing to do with the Homestead laws. So, for example, if a Florida resident is dependent on a source of income that ends up evaporating and are unable to meet their mortgage payments, the mortgage company could and would foreclose, of course. Many people have put their homes up to guarantee loans for other purposes, such as bond for a loved one, only to have that loved one abscond and they ended up losing their home.
I don't know what the stars say about this and would appreciate input from our talented astros but what I'm trying to get across here is that the A's may have used their home as collateral to pay the experts and/or JB, expecting continued donation windfalls, book and movie deals to pay the expenses. Our dear Tuba has suggested they should have shut up and should stay shut up because it will hurt them. This may be how it will hurt them, by hurting the expected cash flow to pay off any voluntary liens.
There's also an old principle in Florida law that one's poverty cannot protect them from their actions and some debts are not dischargable under bankruptcy protection. So, hypothetically, I keep filing frivolous lawsuits against Tuba because I'm annoyed that she doesn't see jail time in the immediate future for the A's. ;) So, Tuba, of course, wins suit after suit, having it dismissed as frivolous and wants to be compensated for attorney fees, time and trouble. Now, in this hypothetical, I'm impoverished. Maybe I'm in jail or something and didn't work for two years before that so I have no money and no assets, just my home. A court can place a lien on that home to collect the judgment and it very well may withstand appeal. A court could, under extreme, very rare circumstances, even order the home to be sold with me still living in it! It would be much more likely, however, that Tuba's lien for fees and costs would come at a time when I sold the home on my own or possibly even if I refinanced it.
Hope that info helps more than it bores to tears. :)
I did look at their mutual home in this composite chart and it is legally protected. There will be problems as time ticks by but those problems will be overcome. They have good karma in this area of life and they do take excellent care of their property. In these times that are so bleak for them, the home is a huge comfort and they have EARNED it.
Thanks for all you do for us, Tuba. I'm curious about your emphasis on the word "earned" and hope you'll clarify. I'm not sure why I'm curious so I can't explain. I just am; it's niggling at me a bit. Is your emphasis sort of like an expectation of what CA feels, you know, like that's her feeling, (as most if not all of us feel we've earned what we've worked so hard to achieve); or, were you speaking your own feelings? (Again, like we should all respect the achievements of others.) Maybe the answer will help me figure out why I have the question. :) TIA!
It was my own value judgment. I believe we all develop in, let's say, columns in this life. Our development in one column may be very low but we may have topping development in another column. As householders, custodians of their real property, good & faithful servants of the coinage given, so to speak, the Anthonys have acted admirably. They are, to my eye, excellent caretakers of their parcel.
passionflower
04-23-2009, 10:22 PM
Speaking of the A house. Do any charts say anything about the house itself?
I keep asking myself how could they live there and see the playhouse and toys.
Caylee would haunt me for life in that house memories would drive me crazy.
TIA
FifthEssence
04-23-2009, 10:34 PM
NEWS has been added- complete stories in our
Astrology-Casey Caylee TimeStamped Media,Doc Links*NO DISCUSSIONS*
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78539&page=13
(scroll down on the page)
***Amy H. attny files objection to request for phone records
***The A's have been dropped from the agenda for the Melanie Ilene Rieger's Memorial Conference next month due to threats. :clap:
***BAEZ CAN ASK THE STATE TO PAY FOR HER DEFENSE
***Cindy tells WKMG she canceled on Oprah Winfrey because of integrity. She texed the message!
***Baez: How Casey Anthony Could Go Free - interview
ps: can't wait for Angel Who Cares (with stealth Wings I hope) to fly back in to town....she is missed BIG TIME!!! Nobody does it better.:thumb::heart::star2:
Dihan
04-23-2009, 11:43 PM
I agree,i really really miss her
Green-Eyed Blonde
04-23-2009, 11:50 PM
I agree,i really really miss her
I agree with you all, Angel Who Cares is dearly missed and is so on top of everything: she does a wonderful job of keeping us updated on a daily basis. She will be returning the first week of May. Hope she is having a wonderful, relaxing vacation. She deserves it!:clap:
Oldsoul2
04-24-2009, 11:38 AM
Casey Anthony: WESH lists four reasons she might be acquitted
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/04/jose-baez-says-he-represents-the-presumption-of-innocencepublic-sentiment-against-first-in-depth-interview-with-baez-since-th.html
Just a quick question....isn't Baez her defense lawyer...shouldn't he know what happened?????
FifthEssence
04-24-2009, 12:34 PM
NEWS has been added- complete stories in our
Astrology-Casey Caylee TimeStamped Media,Doc Links*NO DISCUSSIONS*
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78539&page=13
(scroll down on the page)
***Amy H. attny files objection to request for phone records
***The A's have been dropped from the agenda for the Melanie Ilene Rieger's Memorial Conference next month due to threats. :clap:
***BAEZ CAN ASK THE STATE TO PAY FOR HER DEFENSE
***Cindy tells WKMG she canceled on Oprah Winfrey because of integrity. She texed the message!
***Baez: How Casey Anthony Could Go Free - interview
ps: can't wait for Angel Who Cares (with stealth Wings I hope) to fly back in to town....she is missed BIG TIME!!! Nobody does it better.:thumb::heart::star2:
bumping since I made these entries late last evening. Don't want anyone to miss out on the latest news.
Oldsoul2
04-24-2009, 01:32 PM
Sorry about that Fifth....didn't see the article at first
FifthEssence
04-24-2009, 01:38 PM
Sorry about that Fifth....didn't see the article at first
No apologies necessary. Your input is important. Suppose I overlooked that story? Thanks for your participation!
I've been trying to keep up with the TIME-STAMPED Thread http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=78539&page=13 our Angel Who Cares normally maintains, but it's obvious in her Holiday absence, she cannot be replaced. Like I said earlier, no one person does it better then our ANGEL! :star1:
Oldsoul2
04-24-2009, 02:42 PM
Handwriting Expert Analyzes Casey Anthony’s Writing
Just in case anyone is interested in the handwriting experts opinion:
http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/03/handwriting-expert-analyzes-casey-anthonys-writing/
Also, I would like to ask our wonderful astros about the new news regarding the need for the analysis specialists on weapons and the tool marking expert and a Veterinarian that have been added to the Prosecution. What are to expect in the next doc dump, is it referring to the shovel, the tape any thoughts?
The Anthonys as a unit and their impact are charted on page 9 just previous to this page. On July 21-22, there is a solar eclipse on the Sun of the couple's composite chart. This casts a shadow on their reputation as the Sun is found in their House 10, public standing and rep. They will be further jarred by the proximity of Uranus, 2.5° away. Uranus, you will note on the chart, rules their daughter.
Todd M., headlight among cross examiners, has natal Mars eclipsed that same day as has been discussed earlier. What's hotter than the 4th of July? The 21st of July, apparently!
shgrbkr
04-26-2009, 05:16 AM
The Anthonys as a unit and their impact are charted on page 9 just previous to this page. On July 21-22, there is a solar eclipse on the Sun of the couple's composite chart. This casts a shadow on their reputation as the Sun is found in their House 10, public standing and rep. They will be further jarred by the proximity of Uranus, 2.5° away. Uranus, you will note on the chart, rules their daughter.
Todd M., headlight among cross examiners, has natal Mars eclipsed that same day as has been discussed earlier. What's hotter than the 4th of July? The 21st of July, apparently!
Just a comment that I didn't realize an even darker shadow could be cast on the Anthony's reputation than the one they have thus far cast on themselves.
Also, is it possible to gain any insight into the possibility of Mr. Conway continuing on as their attorney after those dreadful depositions?
Yes, it is hard to imagine but there it is. As for Brad C., I know we have his birthday but I am having trouble finding it. Maybe you can help me look.
In Washington D.C., Brad C. was born 10 September, 1965. Not enough that he was born on a Full Moon, his Moon is conjunct Saturn and his Sun conjunct Uranus and Pluto! Further, his Mars and Neptune are conjunct. He is very much an outer planet person. (Read what Donna Cunningham has to say about this.) His Mercury is lonely but Venus trines Jupiter in Air. Saturn was transiting his Sun-Uranus-Pluto for the depositions. He was so hoping he and his clients would present in a good light and he is dismayed at the negative publicity that followed. His Jupiter in II, which does favor Cindy, is 28:50 of the Sign. When Uranus squares that, the couple will no longer have need of his services. George and he are both Virgos, so there is definite understanding and sympathy between them.
When the Sun transits his Node at the end of May, and Mercury revisits the square of bad judgment shown in the Mars Ingress Chart, his services will be valuable and reporters will interview him.
http://tribes.tribe.net/neurodivergence/thread/cb480046-6b07-4c67-aff6-d530239d63fe
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/Criminal%20Cases/May28Hearing046.jpg
The South Node of the Moon rises conjunct Significator, Moon in Leo and this does not promise honest representations, nor does the Fixed Star Procyon at the ASC. Furthermore, Mars is square that Fixed Star and the rising degree. Mercury of the prisoner is backstroking toward a critical degree in Taurus that is never quite reached because Mercury turns direct on May 30.
As we leave this event and move into June, Mars hits the lunar node of Prisoner & her team in square to the transit node and to the strategy asteroid, Pallas Athena. Much energy is poured into new tactics and Prisoner (node to node square) is down to one last shredded nerve. Food taken in does not want to stay down.
There is a Meridian Parallel between the Sun and the Jupiter-Neptune conjunction, that is, they are equidistant from the House 10 Cusp. Sun is in the document Sign of II and should shine light on what is now withheld in Prosecution's custody. The Moon as she moves into House 2 and then opposes the Jupiter-Neptune infirmary tape acts to bring that secret item to light also.
shgrbkr
04-26-2009, 11:14 PM
Yes, it is hard to imagine but there it is. As for Brad C., I know we have his birthday but I am having trouble finding it. Maybe you can help me look.
Sorry with late response, Tuba, but I work night shift and home computer internet is not working properly...otherwise, I would have been most happy to help look for BC birthday. I'm glad you did not need me to, though, as you would still be waiting.
You guys are most fabulous!!
shgrbkr
04-26-2009, 11:17 PM
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/Criminal%20Cases/May28Hearing046.jpg
The South Node of the Moon rises conjunct Significator, Moon in Leo and this does not promise honest representations, nor does the Fixed Star Procyon at the ASC. Furthermore, Mars is square that Fixed Star and the rising degree. Mercury of the prisoner is backstroking toward a critical degree in Taurus that is never quite reached because Mercury turns direct on May 30.
As we leave this event and move into June, Mars hits the lunar node of Prisoner & her team in square to the transit node and to the strategy asteroid, Pallas Athena. Much energy is poured into new tactics and Prisoner (node to node square) is down to one last shredded nerve. Food taken in does not want to stay down.
There is a Meridian Parallel between the Sun and the Jupiter-Neptune conjunction, that is, they are equidistant from the House 10 Cusp. Sun is in the document Sign of II and should shine light on what is now withheld in Prosecution's custody. The Moon as she moves into House 2 and then opposes the Jupiter-Neptune infirmary tape acts to bring that secret item to light also.
Bolded by me....my question in regard to this is this: is there any way to narrow down what the possible documents might be? I'm particularly interested in the missing diary pages. Or could it be something of a more forensic nature like toxicology on the skull full of hair from the remains?
I'm sure you are right that we will be seeing a spread of documents soon. They have already been delivered to the defense. But, because it was to be included in a document release this winter, the infirmary tape of Prisoner's reaction on December 11 is the subject of the hearing and the analysis. I'm referring to the document Sign of Gemini and whether we will see this tape as document. Legally regarded, a video of a happening documents it. When the private eyes rummaged in the woods and at the house, Jim H. was documenting the project with his camera, even though he did not make a log or memorialise it in words in any other way.
In the chart for the hearing on 28 May, the Sun and Jupiter-Neptune act together as a conjunction because they are in Meridian Parallel. This brings the film record to light. Also, the Sun at 7:22 II is quintile to Uranus, which rules items in the prosecution's possession, H. 8. This shows a creative means of making sure the public sees that infirmary reaction. Who is this ball of sunshine, this friend of the court who legitimately works with documents?
Oldsoul2
04-27-2009, 01:55 PM
Not to regurgitate the "who's Caylee's father" but I was browsing the web and found this that really astounded me, please forgive me if this was ever previously posted as I still think the father is someone who is married with children alive and older than Casey but what a similarity!!!
http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2008/08/24/could-this-be-caylees-father/
Can and was the charts done on Caylee ever reveal a possible astrological sign on the father?
Frigga
04-27-2009, 02:01 PM
This is my first time posting here. I want to say how informative and valuable I have found the charts and what they reveal. I have been quite amazed and am now a true believer. If it were possible to find Casey's time of birth, would that be of significant help? Thank you for this forum and the ability to become familiar with the ancient aspects of understanding the stars and their alignment, it is truly awe inspiring.
Oldsoul2
04-27-2009, 03:04 PM
This is my first time posting here. I want to say how informative and valuable I have found the charts and what they reveal. I have been quite amazed and am now a true believer. If it were possible to find Casey's time of birth, would that be of significant help? Thank you for this forum and the ability to become familiar with the ancient aspects of understanding the stars and their alignment, it is truly awe inspiring.
Hi Frigga welcome to this forum, do you mean Casey's or Caylee's birth time? I believe there's a lot of info and charts already posted previously...although I'm not exactly sure if Caylee's birth time has ever been posted....check the forensic calendar for all the amazing charts casted by the astrologer's here.
Soulscape
04-27-2009, 03:23 PM
This is my first time posting here. I want to say how informative and valuable I have found the charts and what they reveal. I have been quite amazed and am now a true believer. If it were possible to find Casey's time of birth, would that be of significant help? Thank you for this forum and the ability to become familiar with the ancient aspects of understanding the stars and their alignment, it is truly awe inspiring.
Hi Frigga welcome to this forum, do you mean Casey's or Caylee's birth time? I believe there's a lot of info and charts already posted previously...although I'm not exactly sure if Caylee's birth time has ever been posted....check the forensic calendar for all the amazing charts casted by the astrologer's here.
Welcome to the Forensic Astrology Forum, Frigga.
We have Caylee Marie Anthony's true time of birth. Please see the August 9, 2008 entry on the Astro Crime Calendar for the chart.
Regarding Casey Anthony, we only have her date and location of birth. I, for one, would love to know the true time of birth, however, not knowing it does not change our astrological observations.
Thanks,
Soulscape
We definitely do not have the prisoner's birth time & wish we did. Caylee is much fairer than the Anthonys, which suggests hair and skin traits to look for in her father. There are several strong possibilities in terms of his Sun Sign. Caylee had a lot of fixity in her chart, which her mother does not. The male who contributed may therefore be a Taurus, Leo, Scorpio or Aquarian. Since this often skips a generation, we can't know.
Oldsoul2
04-27-2009, 03:50 PM
Ah Frigga, there's your answer by our astros...sorry about that wasn't sure if they had that...
Sooner Fan
04-27-2009, 05:25 PM
I can't tell you how much I am amazed at this thread, to try just would not do it justice.
Here's a suggestion...I won't be discouraged it you choose not to use it.
What about making a thread in the main forum regarding all pertinent birth times. There is a wealth of knowledge on all these threads and someone just might be about to supply it.
Carry on.....Sooner....
Sooner Fan
04-27-2009, 06:50 PM
I have to go right now as I have a very very sick husband and he needs me. I will continue to read this thread....it's my favorite!
lolipop
04-28-2009, 08:55 AM
I have been following this case since day one, this case and Haleigh's I am totally obsessed with but I was wondering it is showing how Casey can not hold anything down anymore hence all the throwing up is it possible that Caylee is haunting her in her sleep?
magic-cat
04-28-2009, 09:04 AM
I have been following this case since day one, this case and Haleigh's I am totally obsessed with but I was wondering it is showing how Casey can not hold anything down anymore hence all the throwing up is it possible that Caylee is haunting her in her sleep?
We can only hope! :crazy:
Seriously though, I doubt that is the case. I would say more like it is that Casey is now beginning to feel the confinement :behindbar and is sick because she has lost her freedom and for no other reason. That, and maybe she fears the death penalty which was hoisted back up on the table of late. That girl cares nothing for anyone except her own self, so I doubt that she is even considering the daughter that she killed in all of this. It is all about Casey to Casey...in the end, that very thing may just be her downfall...Peeps expect mommy's to care for their children and when they don't? Well, it makes peeps suspicious and angry. :furious:
Oldsoul2
04-28-2009, 09:55 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/19305308/detail.html#-
Taxpayers May Pay For Meter Reader's Lawyer
Poor Roy Cronk...you'd think with the hard time they are giving him that it was better for him to never call the police in the first place, they give him a reward for finding Caylee's remains and then make him pay partial legal fees to answer questions.
MOTION FILED TO FORCE CINDY ANTHONY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
There forcing Cindy to answer the question whether or not Casey stole money from her credit cards, I supposed making her admit that she always knew her daughter was a liar.
AND FINALLY the one I have been waiting for:
ANTHONYS OFF CONFERENCE AGENDA DUE TO THREATS
Many of those victim advocates said they don't want his help. They say the Anthonys have damaged the progress made for victims' rights and for missing person's cases.
Finally they are acknowledging the fact that this is not a missing persons case and the A's are not victims of this crime.
http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr172/CausticSalt/JailDepositionsMay5048.jpg
This is the chart for the coming depositions of jail guards. We can only hope this will lead to release of the infirmary tape from December 11, 2008. The Sun is trine Saturn, ruling the guards but also their tape and the two Houses, guard deponents and tape in custody must be read together as the same Sign takes both H. 7 and H. 8 cusps.
The prisoner's natal decision point, 1:18 Aries, was prodded by Mars on Wednesday last and Thursday, and then by Venus on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. She has been "in a brown study" deliberating. "What to do, what to do!!?" She has thought about the tape of December 11 but also about the death penalty.
ledwards
04-30-2009, 06:37 AM
I was just wondering with the new jobs Cindy and George have now " finding lost children " Will they do good at this or will they always meet with hard ships. Will they ever get a real job?
Spitfire4ever
04-30-2009, 10:23 AM
Veteran Prosecutor To Helm Anthony Case
POSTED: Wednesday, April 29, 2009
UPDATED: 7:24 pm EDT April 29, 2009
Casey Anthony appears at a court hearing.
The lead prosecutor in the case against Casey Anthony is familiar with high-profile murder cases as well as child neglect cases.
Assistant State Attorney Linda Drane-Burdick was tapped to prosecute the case when Anthony was charged with child neglect, but now, the 20-year veteran will take the lead in one of the most publicized murder trials in Florida history.
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http://www.clickorlando.com/news/19326886/detail.html
Linda Drane-Burdick DOB is 10/12/64
Just wanted to add this information in case it is needed. Still looking for a place of birth.
Haven't been able able to post much lately and sure do miss it!
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