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Atanua
04-05-2009, 01:27 AM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-serialkillers5-2009apr05,0,2434292.story


The growing database includes more than 500 female victims, most of whom were killed and their bodies dumped at truck stops, motels and other spots along popular trucking routes crisscrossing the U.S.

The FBI suspects that serial killers working as long-haul truckers are responsible for the slayings of hundreds of prostitutes, hitchhikers and stranded motorists whose bodies have been dumped near highways over the last three decades.

Federal authorities first made the connection about five years ago while helping police link a trucker to a string of unsolved killings along Interstate 40 in Oklahoma and several other states. After that, the FBI launched the Highway Serial Killings Initiative to track suspicious slayings and suspect truckers.

STEADFAST
04-05-2009, 01:58 AM
That map pinpointing the killings is terrifying! I had no idea.:mad:

SuziQ
04-05-2009, 02:13 AM
Wow, very interesting! Years ago I read that one of the traits alot serial killers share is their love for driving.

Bud
04-05-2009, 02:49 AM
I just ran across this story a few minutes ago, too. Fascinating.

Any chance it may be helpful in the case of the mystery couple who were found near a South Carolina Highway in 1976?

I recall the owner of the gun, used to kill the couple, was an OTR (long haul) trucker.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75977

scandi
04-05-2009, 03:27 AM
Hi, and thanks for the thread ;}

We had a poster here who was positive there was a serial killer running up the freeway system on the East Coast. He had several women he thought were killed by this person.

Gosh, if only I could remember his name - no I think it was a lady. She was very knowlegable about all the roads, deaths, etc. xox

SuziQ
04-05-2009, 03:47 AM
Hi, and thanks for the thread ;}

We had a poster here who was positive there was a serial killer running up the freeway system on the East Coast. He had several women he thought were killed by this person.

Gosh, if only I could remember his name - no I think it was a lady. She was very knowlegable about all the roads, deaths, etc. xox

Was the poster Shadowraiths?

capoly
04-05-2009, 04:49 AM
In the late 70's I had a short interaction with a big rig trucker that left me wondering as to his intent.

Was driving on a busy Interstate when the car started to have trouble maintaining speed. It was a dark stretch of road so kept chugging along in the far right lane with the hopes of making it to the lighted toll area.

I did notice that a truck stayed traveling behind me, partly because it made me feel safe. Got to where I could see the lights of the toll area but the car wasn't going to make it so signaled & pulled over into the breakdown lane. The trucker, who I'm still feeling okay with, doesn't pull up behind or further up in front but rather pulls his rig in to the front diagonally blocking both the car & view of the toll.

Having had one mean arse father....instinct kicked in and I didn't even wait for the guy to exit, just ran around the back of truck and headed to the tolls yelling so to draw attention. lol

Have no idea if his intentions were wrong but when I read stories about people gone missing after their car breaks down....I think of him and how he managed to make an isolated area while in a populated one.

fran
04-05-2009, 09:10 AM
I'm glad to see that the FBI actually has a database of the murders along the major highways and I hope the local LEs will cooperate with them and submit their unsolved cases. IIRC, it was even before they arrested a guy for a string of murders of women who were last seen at an OKC truck stop, this very thing was discussed here on Websleuths and other crime blogs, ie there were most likely more than one trucker involved in serial killings.

It's too easy for these types to get away with their crime because they're so mobile. Often times the victims are found off the beaten path and there's times when a 'truck' was seen in the vicinity. The locations are easily accessible from a major through-fare.

IMO, another type that COULD be in serial killing are traveling salesman type. They're even more difficult than truckers to catch because they can be in a van, a family car, or whatever. They're not as easy to spot or remember as you would seeing a BIG truck parked along the side of the road.

There's been so many of these cases in the years I've been reading here, but there was one guy who was connected to a murder and an attempted abduction who was a 'siding' salesman throughout the eastern states. He was caught for one crime, several states away from his home location and then linked to other crimes. It's scary to think of how many unsolved cases that one person could be responsible for.

Maybe some day we'll see a Federal task force formed using this data base and reviewing murder cases from coast to coast. It's only until they look at these incidents as POSSIBLY being linked, that they may be able to solve more of them. Because I do believe they're solveable, they just have to be reviewed and investigated by someone who has NO BOUNDARIES on what they have access to and don't, as far as individual states and jurisdictions.

That's how the killer is working, NO BOUNDS.

JMHO
fran

SewingDeb
04-05-2009, 09:37 AM
Fran,

I just posted yesterday in one of the threads wondering if the killer could be a trucker. That was in response to someone wondering how the killer could kill several in one area and travel a long distance to kill several more. Maybe after more coffee I will remember which thread I posted in and direct them to your link.

I have heard before that many serial killers are truckers who kill along their route.

TGIRecovered
04-05-2009, 11:26 AM
Atanua- Thanks for starting this thread. I have a feeling that this one will end up being a lively topic! We at WS have discussed long haul truckers in connection with a good many cases. I'm glad the FBI has found a solid basis for our speculation!

Capoly- Yep, you are a survivor kind of a gal. Good job staying alert and going with your gut!

Fran- You are so right about the salesman thing. I meet them at the door, holding back my big viciously barking dog ( the door blocking view of said doggie's happily wagging tail)! With an obvious look of disdain, I give them a curt " I don't care if it's free; go away and take us off your list.", door shut, blot engaged.
This confuses them mighitily, considering my porch is covered in lovely rocks painted by my children when they were young, with sayings such as "Jesus died for are (sic) sins"!

Serial killers with continential access to victims living a mobile lifestyle...runaways, travelers, prostitutes, other truckers...it's a mecca for the less calculating psychopath; looking for an easy-access victim who won't be immediately missed.

Susan

Kat
04-05-2009, 12:17 PM
I am so glad this was posted. I called my Husband in from the livingroom and showed him. He started running his finger over the map naming off the number of interstate for me. (He's not a LHT :)).

O/T but we were watching AWM last night and a young girl out in CA is missing, my Husband told me that her abductor could have used the I 5...He hasn't followed the case but he's pretty astute when it comes to stuff like that.

TGIRecovered
04-05-2009, 12:37 PM
We have a member or two who frequent the Trucker-boards...can't remember who.

It would be great to have a few truckers here to discuss.

I've also wondered if any serial-killers read our board but don't post. I'm sure a few wife-killers do.

Susan

KR2tonenow
04-05-2009, 01:22 PM
FBI: Link Between Truckers, Serial Killers (http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090405/Truckers.Serial.Killers/)

Incredible and I added this!

I know there has been alot research done on serial killers here. This should be added.

waltzingmatilda
04-05-2009, 02:06 PM
My dad is a trucker who owns his own rig. I have no contact with him any longer but I can comment on a few things I remember from when I was a kid......

A truck stop with a sign stating 'Free Coffee for Truckers' means that prostitutes are available on premise. I don't know if this is still done as I haven't visited a truck stop in years. The large ones have rooms upstairs for this purpose. According to my mom he indulged in this behavior and came home with a case of crabs once. Showers are also available for truckers with sleeper trucks.

Drugs are quite commonly used in the industry. Bennie pills (some type of speed) were his drug of choice. He slipped on into my mom's iced tea once and she felt like she would die her heart was racing so fast. (She is a tee totaler. He is a hellion.) I would imagine stimulants like speed and cocaine are available at truck stops also.

Truckers have their favorite stops along their routes and network with other trucker friends to coincide their stops and 'visit'. Back in the days of the C B radios they would communicate to other truckers if a smoky was ahead or an accident with instructions for an alternate route if available. They look out for each other.

They are required to keep logs and if they aren't kept up a fine is issued at inspection stations. They is a limit to the number of hours allowed to be driven between breaks for safety reasons. If all this information isn't logged properly, it is assumed the trucker has been fudging in his logs and driving more hours than allowed. Many drivers do this in order to meet their deadline although it is illegal.

My dad had a partner sometimes for long runs up north over the weekend. They took turns sleeping while the other one drove. This was to insure that the trip began on Friday night and ended on Sunday. He drove from Alabama to points in the midwest, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio etc. We loved these weekends and my mom would pack up my brother and me and we'd drive to FL for a mini vacation without him knowing. teehee. He was mean and abusive to us so when he left we'd shout WOOHOO! Let's go have some fun but we had to keep it secret or it would be a knock down drag out when he found out.

It is a tough life but I think some people have driving in their veins and enjoy the camaraderie with fellow truckers. It suited my Dad perfectly because he was not a family man. My mom finally divorced him thank goodness.

I have nothing against truckers, just sharing what it was like being that truckers daughter while growing up.

waltzingmatilda
04-05-2009, 02:11 PM
Oh one more thing.....

I can see how it would be very easy to pick up someone at one of the large truck stops as the atmosphere is like a circus, except 18 wheelers are driving around instead of clown cars.

fran
04-05-2009, 02:22 PM
Here's where this was discussed here on Weblseuths, truckers being involved. I know there's scores of them here.

fran


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53422

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2127153&highlight=truck+driver+arrested+murder#post2127153

Gypsy Road
04-05-2009, 03:14 PM
I am HORRIFIED after reading this article. Of course I had to wander off the article and research some of the cases cited - and omg, I am just absolutely and utterly horrified. BUT, I am thankful that the FBI is on it.

I live near the Ala/Fla border. Some months ago a woman in my area escaped from a truckers cab. He had captured her and had been raping her for 5 days. He stopped at either the Loxley, Ala or Wilcox Rd exit (can't remember which one - one is right after the other) anyway, he stopped for gas and she was somehow able to free herself (he had her tied up or hand-cuffed) and she was able to escape the cab, but she was NAKED! It was absolutely horrible what that poor woman went through. If she hadn't escaped, she said she knew he would killed her. Anyway, he was apprehended and is awaiting trial in Alabama.

waltzingmatilda
04-05-2009, 03:23 PM
That story is horrifying Gypsy! I hope they punish him to the fullest extent of the law for what he did to that poor woman! Thank God she got away!

RhythmicSun
04-05-2009, 03:37 PM
Thanks for posting this. I am wondering if there is also a database about "bad cops". In my college years, my car broke down right after dark along a lonely stretch of interstate. A guardian angel in the form of a man and his young son stopped and ultimately insisted on driving me to the auto repair himself because he did not trust the attitude and demeanor of the Highway Patrolman who stopped - and he let me know in no uncertain terms. On the way there, he explained to me the alarm signals in the officer's conversation. Looking back, the words and where the officer was trying to take the conversation was very suspicious. I was a naive young 19 year old and not very assertive at the time. (That has changed!) Several months later an item in the local newspaper indicated that a CHP officer had been arrested for detaining young women along the interstates near where I went to college. I consider myself very lucky.

Just posting this so that any young girl reading takes note that especially nowadays law enforcement cannot always be trusted, and one should always be very aware and careful.

mysteriew
04-06-2009, 12:41 AM
I wish that map was interactive. Too many of those lines appear to come close to my house, and one dot could possibly be in my county- though I don't remember any UID's being found here.

I am glad that they are beginning a database, it is about time. They have been finding remains and speculating on serial killer truckers for a long time. They have even found a few. Hopefully this will help to identify the routes they are using and help to capture them.

txsvicki
04-06-2009, 01:20 AM
I wonder how the economy will affect the trucker serial kilers. Some of them have probably lost their jobs due to downsizing, losing their own trucks, or layoffs. They might still be out trolling for victims in their own towns with increases in prostitute murders or women in general.

fran
04-06-2009, 01:46 AM
Thanks for posting this. I am wondering if there is also a database about "bad cops". In my college years, my car broke down right after dark along a lonely stretch of interstate. A guardian angel in the form of a man and his young son stopped and ultimately insisted on driving me to the auto repair himself because he did not trust the attitude and demeanor of the Highway Patrolman who stopped - and he let me know in no uncertain terms. On the way there, he explained to me the alarm signals in the officer's conversation. Looking back, the words and where the officer was trying to take the conversation was very suspicious. I was a naive young 19 year old and not very assertive at the time. (That has changed!) Several months later an item in the local newspaper indicated that a CHP officer had been arrested for detaining young women along the interstates near where I went to college. I consider myself very lucky.

Just posting this so that any young girl reading takes note that especially nowadays law enforcement cannot always be trusted, and one should always be very aware and careful.

OhMyGosh! You don't live in Southern Calif do you?! Like in the SD area?

YES! that did happen in SD!!!!!!! By a...............decorated CHP officer......One photo he's receiving top honors,.............the next photo, he's accused of MURDER!!!!:mad:

JMHO
fran

RhythmicSun
04-06-2009, 02:12 AM
I remember that case, and the bridge named after the victim :( but no, not the same one. It's a different case from about 35 years ago, while I was driving north through central California on I-5, which was barely built at the time and had long stretches of nothing anywhere except the road. And let's not forget CHP Gwaltney in the San Bernardino County area (early 80's). Hopefully this database of the serial killer truckers will lead to another database. Most of LE is noble, but some aren't.

scandi
04-06-2009, 02:59 AM
Was the poster Shadowraiths?

Hi Suzi, I just saw your post so I went sleuthing in the COLD CASE forum. The name of the poster was Ihadcabinfever.

They are still a member here :woohoo:, so tomoz I think I'll pop him/her a PM to join us here. It's midnight and I need to hit the hay, but will pop it off before I go to work in the morning.

xox

Bud
04-06-2009, 04:16 AM
OhMyGosh! You don't live in Southern Calif do you?! Like in the SD area?

YES! that did happen in SD!!!!!!! By a...............decorated CHP officer......One photo he's receiving top honors,.............the next photo, he's accused of MURDER!!!!:mad:

JMHO
fran

I remember that case, and the bridge named after the victim :( but no, not the same one. It's a different case from about 35 years ago, while I was driving north through central California on I-5, which was barely built at the time and had long stretches of nothing anywhere except the road. And let's not forget CHP Gwaltney in the San Bernardino County area (early 80's). Hopefully this database of the serial killer truckers will lead to another database. Most of LE is noble, but some aren't.

I live in San Diego... he's infamous around here... his name is Craig Peyer. The victim's name is/was Cara Knott.

http://www.10news.com/news/15188945/detail.html

Masterj
04-06-2009, 07:09 AM
I was wondering what had happened to Adam LeRoy Lane. I am still convinced that the bodies dumped behind the strip mall in New Britain, CT were done by a trucker driver. Someone would have thought that a truck behind a store was making deliveries and not thought twice. Plus there is the proximity to I-84.

ArizonaGiGi
04-06-2009, 02:51 PM
OhMyGosh! You don't live in Southern Calif do you?! Like in the SD area?

YES! that did happen in SD!!!!!!! By a...............decorated CHP officer......One photo he's receiving top honors,.............the next photo, he's accused of MURDER!!!!:mad:

JMHO
fran

Officer Peye. I just saw it on Forensic files (a repeat) this weekend. Creepy!! There is a local Police officer in Phoenix that is stopping young shapely girls at night who are driving alone, having them pull off to an isolated location and after getting their d.l. he goes to his car and on the speaker tells them to get out of their car and stand in front of the patol car headlights. He makes them turn around and stand there for 10-15 minutes! Then orders them, via his speaker, to get back in their cars. He gives them their ticket and they leave. I know for a fact that this is happening because I was alerted to this story by my son's girlfriend of 3 years! It happened to her in 2007. She took a defensive driving class to have the ticket wiped off her record and when she was at the class she met a young shapely girl who was there for a ticket given to her by the exact same officer who DID THE EXACT SAME THING TO HER! Now what are the chances of that? I surmise that is his m.o. and it's only a matter of time before an innocent young girl is raped and murdered by him. Ala CHP officer Peye.

I have all the information if anyone wants to p.m. me. I don't know exactly what to do about this. I sent the info to one of the local newspapers but never got a response.

Re; the Serial Truckers; my husband was a LH driver when I met him and the stories you say WaltzingMatilda were true 28 years ago so I can only imagine that it is worse nowadays. It is a very convenient occupation for a serial killer. :eek: I know that they used to have two log different log books so that they could drive way over legal hours. If they get stopped they just show the cop the appropriate one at the time. Drugs and sex rampant too so I imagine the drivers have gotten much more sophisticated in 28 years. Violence has gotten more sophisticated too.

laini
04-06-2009, 03:05 PM
[quote=capoly;3553586]In the late 70's I had a short interaction with a big rig trucker that left me wondering as to his intent.

Was driving on a busy Interstate when the car started to have trouble maintaining speed. It was a dark stretch of road so kept chugging along in the far right lane with the hopes of making it to the lighted toll area.

I did notice that a truck stayed traveling behind me, partly because it made me feel safe. Got to where I could see the lights of the toll area but the car wasn't going to make it so signaled & pulled over into the breakdown lane. The trucker, who I'm still feeling okay with, doesn't pull up behind or further up in front but rather pulls his rig in to the front diagonally blocking both the car & view of the toll.

Having had one mean arse father....instinct kicked in and I didn't even wait for the guy to exit, just ran around the back of truck and headed to the tolls yelling so to draw attention. lol

Have no idea if his intentions were wrong but when I read stories about people gone missing after their car breaks down....I think of him and how he managed to make an isolated area while in a populated one.[/quo
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This makes me think of Tammy Zywicki (sp) who was murdered and dumped off the interestate on her way back to Grinnell college in Iowa. I don't recall if her car was broken down or if they don't know why she pulled over.

Thank goodness you listened to your instincts! You'll probably never know but you may have saved your life. Sure seems like an odd way to pull over. I can't see most truck drivers pulling over to help by positioning their truck like that!

laini
04-06-2009, 03:14 PM
My dad is a trucker who owns his own rig. I have no contact with him any longer but I can comment on a few things I remember from when I was a kid......

A truck stop with a sign stating 'Free Coffee for Truckers' means that prostitutes are available on premise. I don't know if this is still done as I haven't visited a truck stop in years. The large ones have rooms upstairs for this purpose. According to my mom he indulged in this behavior and came home with a case of crabs once. Showers are also available for truckers with sleeper trucks.

Drugs are quite commonly used in the industry. Bennie pills (some type of speed) were his drug of choice. He slipped on into my mom's iced tea once and she felt like she would die her heart was racing so fast. (She is a tee totaler. He is a hellion.) I would imagine stimulants like speed and cocaine are available at truck stops also.

Truckers have their favorite stops along their routes and network with other trucker friends to coincide their stops and 'visit'. Back in the days of the C B radios they would communicate to other truckers if a smoky was ahead or an accident with instructions for an alternate route if available. They look out for each other.

They are required to keep logs and if they aren't kept up a fine is issued at inspection stations. They is a limit to the number of hours allowed to be driven between breaks for safety reasons. If all this information isn't logged properly, it is assumed the trucker has been fudging in his logs and driving more hours than allowed. Many drivers do this in order to meet their deadline although it is illegal.

My dad had a partner sometimes for long runs up north over the weekend. They took turns sleeping while the other one drove. This was to insure that the trip began on Friday night and ended on Sunday. He drove from Alabama to points in the midwest, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio etc. We loved these weekends and my mom would pack up my brother and me and we'd drive to FL for a mini vacation without him knowing. teehee. He was mean and abusive to us so when he left we'd shout WOOHOO! Let's go have some fun but we had to keep it secret or it would be a knock down drag out when he found out.

It is a tough life but I think some people have driving in their veins and enjoy the camaraderie with fellow truckers. It suited my Dad perfectly because he was not a family man. My mom finally divorced him thank goodness.

I have nothing against truckers, just sharing what it was like being that truckers daughter while growing up.


waltzingmatilda- Thanks for sharing! I have a truckdriver question for you! Do you know of any reason a truck driver would have the zipper area/crotch of all his jeans cut out? I would assume maybe to pee easily or for scrotal comfort, but the person in question was very defensive when the jeans were found by his new wife. It just sounds odd and suspicious. Is this for truckstop quickies? Have you have heard of truckers doing this?

ArizonaGiGi
04-06-2009, 08:42 PM
laini, that's WEIRD to say the least! I mean, say he needs to hop out and fill up with diesel or drop off the load of whatever he is hauling. He HAS to get out of the truck at some point. Does he just walk around with ...um... it....hanging out? Or his undies hanging out? Or maybe he always wears a shirt long enough to cover it up? Seems like if he was uncomfortable in that special area of his body that he'd just get a larger pair of jeans or wear sweats.

And if he was defensive when these kind of jeans were "discovered" by his new wife I believe I'd dig around and see what else he could be hiding. Maybe she needs to run a background check on him. Always err on the side of caution imo.

Bud
04-07-2009, 01:48 AM
waltzingmatilda- Thanks for sharing! I have a truckdriver question for you! Do you know of any reason a truck driver would have the zipper area/crotch of all his jeans cut out? I would assume maybe to pee easily or for scrotal comfort, but the person in question was very defensive when the jeans were found by his new wife. It just sounds odd and suspicious. Is this for truckstop quickies? Have you have heard of truckers doing this?

Many truckers pee in a bottle rather than stopping and wasting time using a public restroom... since it's hard to find parking for an 18 wheeler (and like I said waste precious time).

When you do this... it seems it would be much easier to have free access than to unbelt, unbutton, unzip and then pull your pants down to you knees... while driving.

This may be the explanation.

Grace1984
04-07-2009, 03:37 AM
I have a daughter who lives a not so respectful life. She has worked as a prostitute at a truck stop and I have learned a little about what she goes through.
From my understanding the girls that work there have safe houses which mean they find a driver they are comfortable with and use his CB to talk, hide in his truck from the police or tell him when they have a problem with another trucker.
I can see one of these men easily killing the girls and getting away with it. The girls tend to trust them and let down their guards with them. I hope that law enforcement has interviewed other girls that work the truck stops... It's amazing what my daughter tells me and I'm sure some of the other girls can be helpful.

Grace1984
04-07-2009, 03:40 AM
waltzingmatilda- Thanks for sharing! I have a truckdriver question for you! Do you know of any reason a truck driver would have the zipper area/crotch of all his jeans cut out? I would assume maybe to pee easily or for scrotal comfort, but the person in question was very defensive when the jeans were found by his new wife. It just sounds odd and suspicious. Is this for truckstop quickies? Have you have heard of truckers doing this?

Another explanation may be that he had a (or many) female riders and got oral sex while driving. Easy access you could say. May not be the reason but it's a possibility.

capoly
04-07-2009, 04:45 AM
I was wondering what had happened to Adam LeRoy Lane. I am still convinced that the bodies dumped behind the strip mall in New Britain, CT were done by a trucker driver. Someone would have thought that a truck behind a store was making deliveries and not thought twice. Plus there is the proximity to I-84.

The incident I posted of, while 20 years earlier, was at the other end of I-84, eastbound near Sturbridge tolls. I doubt anyone driving by was thinking it strange for a trucker to help out with a disabled car. So you have convinced me that a trucker was involved with those bodies being dumped behind the strip mall.

RhythmicSun
04-07-2009, 08:49 AM
A few years ago (2005?) I met a trucker who assisted me when my U-Haul truck broke down. He told me that everything has changed in the industry. The speeds are monitored by computer and the truck literally shuts down when the truck has reached its daily quota of drive hours. Anyone have any more information on this?

waltzingmatilda
04-07-2009, 09:25 AM
waltzingmatilda- Thanks for sharing! I have a truckdriver question for you! Do you know of any reason a truck driver would have the zipper area/crotch of all his jeans cut out? I would assume maybe to pee easily or for scrotal comfort, but the person in question was very defensive when the jeans were found by his new wife. It just sounds odd and suspicious. Is this for truckstop quickies? Have you have heard of truckers doing this?

I never knew of my Dad's pants having the crotch cut out but I do know for a fact that he pee's in a bottle while driving in order to stay on schedule.
As another poster suggested, it could be for purposes of receiving oral sex. It was not unusal for Mom to find 'clues' that my Dad was with other women while on trips and even traveled with some in his cab. UGH! I remember toward the end of their marriage when he came home from a trip, drank a 6 pack and passed out on the bed, she discovered his knees and elbows were red like carpet burns. She packed our bags, started the car and told me to go wait but I didn't go right then because I didn't want to leave her alone with him in case he woke up. She pinned the bed sheet around him. The last thing I saw as I was leaving to get into the car was my mom flogging him with a broom while he was pinned under the sheets! :eek: She is a fiesty little woman but I guess she felt she had to be. She is doing well now. I'm glad she got out and doesn't have to put up with such things in her senior years.:)

waltzingmatilda
04-07-2009, 09:38 AM
Here are some interesting links
http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/rules-regulations.htm

This link is a forum for truckers which is similar to WS:
<www.thetruckersreport.com>

waltzingmatilda
04-07-2009, 09:39 AM
oops last link didn't work, maybe this will
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/truckingindustryforum/trucking-industry-regulations/

oceanblueeyes
04-07-2009, 09:53 AM
It comes as no surprise to me that some serial killers pick truck driving as a profession. Just like a pedophile may pick a profession that puts them around vulnerable children and they too disguise their depravity under the pretense of their profession.

I actually feel very sorry for the millions of legitimate truck drivers all across America that do their jobs professionally, taking risk that so many of us are not willing to make, just to see that our goods are to us on time and in good shape.

While the FBI says we have around 50 serial killers a year the stigma seems to attach to truck drivers in general and for that I truly feel sorry for the great ones out there that do not break laws but in many instances actually help law enforcement nab criminals. The police relies on the eyes and ears of the truckers and they have helped to solve many crimes. No longer are truckers being truckers because they cant do anything else. Many of them have college degrees and have high paying trucking jobs now and more and more due to terrorism, both foreign and domestic, they have to have more and more knowledge than ever before. These motley few who use trucking as a method for murder tarnishes the true and dedicated truck driver just by having the same profession. That imo, is a tragedy.

From what I have read most of these serial killers who are truckers work for an independent outfit where the rules of expectation aren't as tight. Most legitimate and respected companies do not allow the driver to have anyone accompany them in the cab as they deliver their goods. They aren't allowed to pick anyone up or it is an automatic dismissal. The serial killer trucker picks a company with less structure, less rules and more leeways.

The very fact that these type of serial killers are out there being in transit from state to state and continuously stopping at truck stops gives them an opening to pick up their next victim. They know the deal and they pick those victims thinking they will not be missed by their friends or families. They know that prostitutes hang around these places waiting for the next John, although LE has tried to deter that in the recent years but if there is a will there is a way and these perverts know it.

Imo these type of serial killers are similar to Gary Ridgeway except they are nomadic. He picked the most vulnerable of society, those in his depraved and evil mind he felt had no worth. So these killers who drives trucks mostly do the same and the highway becomes their killing and disposing fields. They know they have no link to the victim and they move on to some other unsuspecting victim in another town or another state.

imo

oceanblueeyes
04-07-2009, 11:06 AM
http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/apr/07/trucker-fiance-admit-killing-woman-no-link-series-/

Trucker, fiancée admit killing woman; no link to series of deaths
Lawrence Buser, Memphis Commercial Appeal
Originally published 08:49 a.m., April 7, 2009
Updated 08:49 a.m., April 7, 2009


MEMPHIS — When truck driver Steven Ray Kennedy and his fiancée were arrested after attacking a prostitute in 2006 at an Indiana truck stop, authorities thought they might be on to a pair of serial killers.

As they were questioned by police in Crown Point, Ind., Kennedy’s fiancée, Clara Diane Lincks, said that they had killed a woman at a Memphis truck stop and dumped her body in Mississippi.

Although links to a dozen or so similar killings in surrounding states never materialized, Kennedy and Lincks pleaded guilty Monday to the Memphis killing of Misty ‘Paradise’ Nelson, 27.

Masterj
04-07-2009, 10:01 PM
The incident I posted of, while 20 years earlier, was at the other end of I-84, eastbound near Sturbridge tolls. I doubt anyone driving by was thinking it strange for a trucker to help out with a disabled car. So you have convinced me that a trucker was involved with those bodies being dumped behind the strip mall.

You are incredibly lucky. I think that area is so creepy and desolate at night.

Bud
04-08-2009, 01:16 AM
I never knew of my Dad's pants having the crotch cut out but I do know for a fact that he pee's in a bottle while driving in order to stay on schedule.
As another poster suggested, it could be for purposes of receiving oral sex. It was not unusal for Mom to find 'clues' that my Dad was with other women while on trips and even traveled with some in his cab. UGH! I remember toward the end of their marriage when he came home from a trip, drank a 6 pack and passed out on the bed, she discovered his knees and elbows were red like carpet burns. She packed our bags, started the car and told me to go wait but I didn't go right then because I didn't want to leave her alone with him in case he woke up. She pinned the bed sheet around him. The last thing I saw as I was leaving to get into the car was my mom flogging him with a broom while he was pinned under the sheets! :eek: She is a fiesty little woman but I guess she felt she had to be. She is doing well now. I'm glad she got out and doesn't have to put up with such things in her senior years.:)

Sorry to sound dense... but of what significance are carpet burns on the knees and elbows?

waltzingmatilda
04-08-2009, 06:53 AM
Bud you're not dense. I was vague as I forget that most others were privvy to such things while growing up. My dad was a scoundrel. His red knees and elbows were indications of his ...ahem... extensive philandering while on the road.

capoly
04-08-2009, 10:14 AM
You are incredibly lucky. I think that area is so creepy and desolate at night.

Yes, think I was lucky also....have thought that many times over the years without really knowing why. Maybe because the State Trooper, who had come out of the depot in response to my yelling, seemed to want to hear the trucker had talked or touched inappropriately. Even when I said no, the Trooper stayed in clear view of the truck with his eyes focused on the cab, following it through the toll.

Reading this report and recalling his response makes me wonder if this 'link' may have been present in thought long before it got to paper.

It is a creepy area. This took place right after the final curve before the tolls...where the road widens into 6+ lanes. Plenty of room for him to pull in as he did without drawing attention.

What really is creeping me out now though....some 30 years later...is thinking he stayed driving behind me for miles. Like hunting a lame duck.

Bud
04-09-2009, 01:28 AM
Bud you're not dense. I was vague as I forget that most others were privvy to such things while growing up. My dad was a scoundrel. His red knees and elbows were indications of his ...ahem... extensive philandering while on the road.

Lol! See I may be more dense than you think... I'm trying to put red knees, red elbows and philandering together.

Perhaps, I'm the exception but I've never had this affliction from sexual activity... if that's what the redness implies :bang:

waltzingmatilda
04-09-2009, 08:00 AM
Lol! See I may be more dense than you think... I'm trying to put red knees, red elbows and philandering together.

Perhaps, I'm the exception but I've never had this affliction from sexual activity... if that's what the redness implies :bang:

LOL I needed a good laugh! Apparently my Dad wasn't aware that he had this problem! Maybe it was result of copulation while in the confined quarters of the sleeper truck. Glad to hear you don't suffer form this affliction:clap:

vlpate
12-03-2011, 04:31 AM
http://longhaulterritorykiller.com/possible-routes-of-travel/

Possible routes of John Wayne Boyer - serial killer frequented truck stops....left a string of dead bodies.

Cartersmina
05-08-2012, 02:50 AM
Royal Russell Long was a long haul trucker who was a serial killer. He killed my sister and her friend. At one point during the court proceedings somebody qutoed Long saying "I've taken so many, some I sold others I killed these two I don't rember. Refering to my sister and her friend Charlotte kinsey and Cinda Pallett. He was the suspect in 5 abductions in Rawlins WY. Then after Charlotte and Cinda he kidnapped 2 more girls, one escaped and the other was never seen again. Thank god she got away, and Long was put away so he could no longer prey on young girls.

Jacie Estes
05-08-2012, 08:55 AM
Sharon Bald Eagle from Cheyenne River Reservation is missing since 1984.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/167dfsd.html

Sharon Baldeagle
Missing since September 18, 1984 from Eagle Butte, Dewey County, South Dakota.
Classification: Non-Family Abduction
Vital Statistics
* Date Of Birth: June 26, 1972
* Age at Time of Disappearance: 12 years old
* Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3; 110 pounds
* Distinguishing Characteristics: Native female. Black hair; brown eyes
* Clothing:Black/yellowish tiger striped top. Black shoes. Red bag.
Circumstances of Disappearance
BaldEagle and another girl from Hot Springs were hitchhiking near Casper, Wyoming on September 19, 1984 when they were picked up by Royal Russell Long and taken to his Evansville, Wyoming home.
According to testimony, Long bound the girls at gunpoint and beat BaldEagle. Later that night the friend escaped and sought help from a neighbor. When the police arrived at the home, Long and BaldEagle were gone. There has been no trace of BaldEagle since that time.
Long was arrested a week later in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He plead guilty to kidnapping the girls for the purpose of committing indecent liberties with a minor and one count of aggravated assault. He died in prison in November 1993. Long maintained he drove BaldEagle to Cheyenne and found her another ride to Texas. He denied knowing BaldEagle's whereabouts.
Investigators
If you have any information concerning Baldeagle's case, please contact:
Fall River County Sheriff's Office
605-745-4444
You may remain anonymous when submitting information to any agency.
Agency Case Number: 63037R
NCMEC #: NCMC600185
NCIC Number: M-179514672

mysteriew
05-09-2012, 02:31 PM
I started a thread about a possible serial killer on I 80, and in the article about the killer there is discussion about the FBI having a taskforce for highway serial killers.

NV I 80 Serial Killer? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community