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christine2448
04-06-2009, 08:15 PM
Please continue here.

CA-Sandra Cantu Missing 3/28/2009 from Tracy (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82126)

CA-Sandra Cantu Missing 3/28/2009 from Tracy,#2 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82402&page=22)

CA-Sandra Cantu Missing 3/28/2009 from Tracy,#3
(http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82460)

Astro Thread Click Here (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82366)

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:18 PM
It kind of looks like pockets on the front...or a garment bag...or who knows. Some of the earlier pictures from a distance reminded me of our cartop luggage carrier, but when I saw the picture of it next to people it was obviously a great deal smaller.

I wish we had a close up picture.

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 08:19 PM
OkGrace, in another pic at the same link, you can see the handle on the top like a regular suitcase, but it does look like those backpack/type duffle kinds that have wheels on them. (me thinks I've spent too much time in the line at the airport)

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 08:20 PM
I saw a close up and it appears to be a piece of luggage. It looks almost like the kind with the retractable handle that you can pull. Or possibly a garment bag.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:20 PM
(Was just about to post this pic because I noticed the handle also.)

http://s598.photobucket.com/albums/tt62/elepher50/IrrigationPond/?action=view&current=pix3edit.jpg

sc2714
04-06-2009, 08:23 PM
NG is about to discuss Sandra and the container.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:23 PM
Does the picture on the right look close? It has pockets in the front and a retractable handle. (I'm just googling looking for luggage to get an idea.)

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8829651

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 08:26 PM
http://www.news10.net/news/story.aspx?storyid=57394&catid=2

pictures of the container. It looks like a suitcase to me (one of the hanging clothes kinds??)

Nursebeeme posted this in the astro thread. Hopefully this works. It's the best photo I've seen so far

ETA- it's a slide show so it takes a minute

parker38
04-06-2009, 08:27 PM
Again, I don't know if this has been addressed here or not.
There is just so much to read and I'm just catching up today.
Anyway, I've watched the video over and over again and today
thought, what if there wasn't anyone to her immediate right and
when she glanced at her house she thought, 'it's still early
let me see if so and so is around to play with'
This would send her in that direction but someone did not
necessarily have to be in that immediate area.
BUT, someone could have been lurking further down or driving
thru that wasn't even a tenant.
Any thoughts?

wandering
04-06-2009, 08:27 PM
HLN is reporting that it's a duffel-type bag.

lynnb
04-06-2009, 08:29 PM
is anyone watching this
http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:30 PM
Thanks Lurkeyloo! These are definitely better pictures. If they actually took a suitcase out of a POI's home it would be great if this piece was missing from a set.


Nursebeeme posted this in the astro thread. Hopefully this works. It's the best photo I've seen so far

ETA- it's a slide show so it takes a minute

lynnb
04-06-2009, 08:30 PM
they placed the duffel bag on a gurnie (sp) and loaded it in a white van

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:31 PM
I am now! Thanks Lynnb!


is anyone watching this
http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Meagain
04-06-2009, 08:32 PM
It took me forever to find a thread on Sandra. :(

Is there any live feed of the area going on?

lonetraveler
04-06-2009, 08:32 PM
Nursebeeme posted this in the astro thread. Hopefully this works. It's the best photo I've seen so far

ETA- it's a slide show so it takes a minute

---
Wow, this suitcase is identical to one I used on a cruise. Definitely, large enough for the little girl. Have a really bad feeling about this.

lynnb
04-06-2009, 08:32 PM
approx 6 men carried the bag to the gurnie. I feel sick. there was definitely weight to the bag

elepher50
04-06-2009, 08:33 PM
is anyone watching this
http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Is that a coroner car?

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 08:35 PM
Nursebeeme posted this in the astro thread. Hopefully this works. It's the best photo I've seen so far

ETA- it's a slide show so it takes a minute

Thanks lurkeyloo...that's the one from way earlier today that I was looking for. When I look at it from that view, it looks like a garment bag, then when I look at it from the view from above where the le are standing, it looks like a suit case, another view (to the left of the bag) it looks like an extra large backpack. The part of the "container" that is throwing me off is the "lumpy" area....in one picture it looks like padding for your back and head it it's a large backpack...in other pictures it just looks like lumps....could be an illusion created because of it being wet, the sun, or the angle the picture was taken.......IDK.........

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:35 PM
I don't recall if it's been discussed before, but it does make sense. Little kids have short attention spans so maybe she was just looking around to see what looked interesting. It doesn't explain why she walked past the house unless she never intended to enter the house...or as the video seems to indicate she just has a love for life and wanted to stay outside longer. It's just so difficult to say certainly what happened. :confused:


Again, I don't know if this has been addressed here or not.
There is just so much to read and I'm just catching up today.
Anyway, I've watched the video over and over again and today
thought, what if there wasn't anyone to her immediate right and
when she glanced at her house she thought, 'it's still early
let me see if so and so is around to play with'
This would send her in that direction but someone did not
necessarily have to be in that immediate area.
BUT, someone could have been lurking further down or driving
thru that wasn't even a tenant.
Any thoughts?

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 08:36 PM
Is that a coroner car?

I was going to ask the same thing

lynnb
04-06-2009, 08:37 PM
Is that a coroner car?

I don't know. approx 6 men carried the duffel bag up the path to the white van parked at the road. when they got up there they placed the bag on a gurnie and put the gurnie in the white van that the cameras are following now

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 08:37 PM
It took me forever to find a thread on Sandra. :(

Is there any live feed of the area going on?

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:38 PM
Do you happen to have a picture of it or a link to one online? Also, was it part of a set?


---
Wow, this suitcase is identical to one I used on a cruise. Definitely, large enough for the little girl. Have a really bad feeling about this.

momtective
04-06-2009, 08:39 PM
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg
It looks like a garment bag
Thanks Blink

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:39 PM
Link is above your post. Hope you are watching now!


It took me forever to find a thread on Sandra. :(

Is there any live feed of the area going on?

lynnb
04-06-2009, 08:40 PM
for those that weren't watching. It looked like they did open the bag before they carried it away. Everyone gathered around it and the men in white suits bent down over it. after a few minutes some of the people just backede up altogether and backed away

OkGrace
04-06-2009, 08:40 PM
(Was just about to post this pic because I noticed the handle also.)

http://s598.photobucket.com/albums/tt62/elepher50/IrrigationPond/?action=view&current=pix3edit.jpg

Now it reminds me of a computer bag I used to have, on wheels and IIRC it could be used as a backpack also.

OkGrace
04-06-2009, 08:42 PM
OkGrace, in another pic at the same link, you can see the handle on the top like a regular suitcase, but it does look like those backpack/type duffle kinds that have wheels on them. (me thinks I've spent too much time in the line at the airport)

You describe it much better than I!

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 08:42 PM
for those that weren't watching. It looked like they did open the bag before they carried it away. Everyone gathered around it and the men in white suits bent down over it. after a few minutes some of the people just backede up altogether and backed away


I missed it lynnb. What's your take on seeing their reactions?

Lunar1121
04-06-2009, 08:43 PM
Did anyone else lose the video? I wish I was watching from the beginning to see if they really opened it there!

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 08:44 PM
Did anyone else lose the video? I wish I was watching from the beginning to see if they really opened it there!

I did lunar ......

tehcloser
04-06-2009, 08:44 PM
So they did open it on the spot?

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 08:44 PM
Did anyone else lose the video? I wish I was watching from the beginning to see if they really opened it there!

yeah. I lost it too.

lynnb
04-06-2009, 08:45 PM
I missed it lynnb. What's your take on seeing their reactions?

My reaction is I wished I wouldn't have seen it. When they carried the bag it almost looked like pallbearers. 3 on each side. The bag had weight and sagged as they walked.

petresq_algc
04-06-2009, 08:45 PM
Thanks lurkeyloo...that's the one from way earlier today that I was looking for. When I look at it from that view, it looks like a garment bag, then when I look at it from the view from above where the le are standing, it looks like a suit case, another view (to the left of the bag) it looks like an extra large backpack. The part of the "container" that is throwing me off is the "lumpy" area....in one picture it looks like padding for your back and head it it's a large backpack...in other pictures it just looks like lumps....could be an illusion created because of it being wet, the sun, or the angle the picture was taken.......IDK.........
I haven't seen the pictures, but recognize the type of backpack you are describing (lumpy). There are high-end backpacks sold for hiking and camping which are oversized & have padding against your back and head. They are very strong and designed to carry lots of weight.

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 08:47 PM
It does sound as though they were treating the bag very respectfully. Not a good sign. I wish I had seen the video from the begining though. I can't even find a replay of it anywhere.

lynnb
04-06-2009, 08:47 PM
So they did open it on the spot?
It looked to me that they opened it. It was hard to tell because the helicopter was trying to zoom in.

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 08:48 PM
My reaction is I wished I wouldn't have seen it. When they carried the bag it almost looked like pallbearers. 3 on each side. The bag had weight and sagged as they walked.

I'm sorry lynnb...I shouldn't have asked. I'm glad I didn't see it myself...

elepher50
04-06-2009, 08:48 PM
Here is an update on TracyPress:

http://tracypress.com/content/view/17734/2268/

lynnb
04-06-2009, 08:49 PM
I'm sorry. I would have posted the link sooner but i thought you were all watching it. When no one was talking about it thats when i asked

tehcloser
04-06-2009, 08:50 PM
If they opened it there....I really think that's a good sign that it was not her. Had there been any doubt they would have waited. They would not have wanted to disturb any evidence until they were in a controlled situation. That and to many copters flying around.

Lunar1121
04-06-2009, 08:50 PM
Go to the main page (link below) and you can see a picture of them carrying it. Then click on the story and throughout the article there are more pictures. I hope it is soaking wet clothes and that is it!

http://www.kcra.com/index.html

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:50 PM
I missed seeing that also. Thank you for sharing with us. I'm sure it was very difficult to watch.


My reaction is I wished I wouldn't have seen it. When they carried the bag it almost looked like pallbearers. 3 on each side. The bag had weight and sagged as they walked.

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 08:56 PM
Based on what I can see in the picture it looks like the "container" was placed inside another bag. I hate to say it, but it looked like they placed it into a body bag.

ETA- if that was then placed onto a guerney, that is not a good sign @ all :(

panthera
04-06-2009, 08:58 PM
approx 6 men carried the bag to the gurnie. I feel sick. there was definitely weight to the bag
Thank you for the updates. I was watching Nancy Grace and btw, she didn't have a segment on Sandra. I wonder if she was told not to?

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 08:59 PM
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu27/ilovemew/luggage.jpg

looks like luggage to me too

panthera
04-06-2009, 08:59 PM
Based on what I can see in the picture it looks like the "container" was placed inside another bag. I hate to say it, but it looked like they placed it into a body bag.

ETA- if that was then placed onto a guerney, that is not a good sign @ all :(
This sounds like they are going to take it to the ME's office.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 08:59 PM
I asked my husband (who knows enough about most subjects to be dangerous LOL) if he had any idea why an pond would be filled and then drained a couple weeks later. He said some irrigation ponds are filled with water, then nutrients/fertilizer/whatever is mixed in, then the water is release into the fields.

If that is the case, and this turns out to be our worst fear about Sandra, do you think the chemicals in the water would hinder the investigation or throw off an autopsy?

Still praying this isn't Sandra.

sc2714
04-06-2009, 08:59 PM
and btw, she didn't have a segment on Sandra. I wonder if she was told not to?

I thought that was strange. She mentioned her and what was going on right before a break, and then it was all Casey.

tehcloser
04-06-2009, 09:01 PM
Wouldn't they put it into another bag to preserve the evidence on the outside ?

badme102
04-06-2009, 09:03 PM
If anyone is watching this via live feed, could I please have a link? I couldn't get in to the last one.

TIA

panthera
04-06-2009, 09:04 PM
I thought that was strange. She mentioned her and what was going on right before a break, and then it was all Casey.
Yes, and that's why it seemed she had to drop it, especially since JVM was talking about the findings just an hour earlier.

passionflower
04-06-2009, 09:04 PM
Wondering what the heck is in it, LE claims no body but it is definately heavy.
Wierd......

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 09:04 PM
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu27/ilovemew/bag.jpg

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 09:04 PM
All I've found on right now is the news, and they cut in and out with info about this case: http://www.kron.com/News/WatchKRON4NewsLiveOnline/tabid/354/Default.aspx


If anyone is watching this via live feed, could I please have a link? I couldn't get in to the last one.

TIA

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 09:06 PM
One thing I just noticed on the KRON news line...They pretty much used the same words as when they described going through the trash: They wanted to treat it as if it was something because they couldn't go back later without losing evidence.

This gave me some hope that this might be nothing.

OkGrace
04-06-2009, 09:10 PM
Thank you for the updates. I was watching Nancy Grace and btw, she didn't have a segment on Sandra. I wonder if she was told not to?

IMO Doubtful, she is not exactly the shrinking violet type. She seems to be like my boys, tell them not too and they will do whatever 10x's more and louder just because.......

Salem
04-06-2009, 09:12 PM
It kind of looks like pockets on the front...or a garment bag...or who knows. Some of the earlier pictures from a distance reminded me of our cartop luggage carrier, but when I saw the picture of it next to people it was obviously a great deal smaller.

I wish we had a close up picture.

Watching JVM they had a pretty good picture of it - it looks like a garment bag and it does appear to have pockets on the front. There is definitely a handle up at the top of the bag, just like on a garment bag.

Salem

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 09:13 PM
One thing I just noticed on the KRON news line...They pretty much used the same words as when they described going through the trash: They wanted to treat it as if it was something because they couldn't go back later without losing evidence.

This gave me some hope that this might be nothing.


I hope your right and they are just being cautious....that little girl deserves to be alive and have her whole future ahead of her!

momtective
04-06-2009, 09:14 PM
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu27/ilovemew/luggage.jpg

looks like luggage to me too

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg

arielilane
04-06-2009, 09:15 PM
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu27/ilovemew/luggage.jpg

looks like luggage to me too
http://dsp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p3858016th.gif (http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2786199)

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 09:23 PM
do u think we'll know tonite or will they wait til tommorow morning?

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 09:23 PM
http://www.ebags.com/delsey/helium_breeze_29_expandable_suiter_trolley_closeou t/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=76724&productid=972287

not sure if this will work. this is what I thought it was.

ETA page link. Couldn't post picture

Meagain
04-06-2009, 09:23 PM
The KCRA link doesn't work in Safari OR Firefox for me. I'm puzzled.

arielilane
04-06-2009, 09:26 PM
http://www.ebags.com/delsey/helium_breeze_29_expandable_suiter_trolley_closeou t/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=76724&productid=972287

not sure if this will work. this is what I thought it was.

ETA page link. Couldn't post picture Here is your pic lurkeyloo.
http://a1472.g.akamaitech.net/f/1472/124/36h/img.ebags.com/is/image/im4/76724_3_1?&op_sharpen=1&op_usm=1,1,1&qlt=60,1&hei=280&wid=280 (http://www.ebags.com/delsey/helium_breeze_29_expandable_suiter_trolley_closeou t/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=76724&productid=972287#)

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 09:29 PM
One thing I just noticed on the KRON news line...They pretty much used the same words as when they described going through the trash: They wanted to treat it as if it was something because they couldn't go back later without losing evidence.

This gave me some hope that this might be nothing.

From what I've seen since being on WS, I think it's serious for one reason or another when the ME is brought in and to have all of those people out there for hours. I don't think LE wants to make up drama, etc. IMO. :(

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 09:30 PM
That looks close to me because I see something on the left - something that previously looked like a fold to me so was thinking it looked more like a garment bag. But this photo shows me it could be a suitcase. The backpack idea looked good also.

I'm hoping we hear something more tonight, but I'm thinking with how long it took them to get the bag in the van we might not know anything until tomorrow. Who knows.


Here is your pic lurkeyloo.
http://a1472.g.akamaitech.net/f/1472/124/36h/img.ebags.com/is/image/im4/76724_3_1?&op_sharpen=1&op_usm=1,1,1&qlt=60,1&hei=280&wid=280 (http://www.ebags.com/delsey/helium_breeze_29_expandable_suiter_trolley_closeou t/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=76724&productid=972287#)

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 09:32 PM
I have that problem with KCRA so I have to open it in Internet Explorer instead of Firefox.


The KCRA link doesn't work in Safari OR Firefox for me. I'm puzzled.

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 09:32 PM
The KCRA link doesn't work in Safari OR Firefox for me. I'm puzzled.

IE works. They may be behind the IT times.

Tonia
04-06-2009, 09:32 PM
Another pic of them carrying 2 bags.

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/HFTM/bags.jpg

Salem
04-06-2009, 09:34 PM
http://dsp.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/p3858016th.gif (http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2786199)

Thanks for the photo arielilane. I don't think this is it. It definitely has a handle at the top, like you see on a garment back that has been folded over. Does that make sense?

Salem

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 09:35 PM
what are those 2 bags? i'm confused now. :confused:

Salem
04-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Here is your pic lurkeyloo.
http://a1472.g.akamaitech.net/f/1472/124/36h/img.ebags.com/is/image/im4/76724_3_1?&op_sharpen=1&op_usm=1,1,1&qlt=60,1&hei=280&wid=280 (http://www.ebags.com/delsey/helium_breeze_29_expandable_suiter_trolley_closeou t/product_detail/index.cfm?modelid=76724&productid=972287#)

This looks much more like it, but the handle was rounded, iirc, not so square.

Salem

Salem
04-06-2009, 09:37 PM
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg

You're so good at drawing on these pictures! Thanks!

Salem

TGIRecovered
04-06-2009, 09:37 PM
I'm having a frustrating time trying to see what's going on with this case while scrolling back and forth to read each line of each post. Is anyone else having this trouble, or is it just my screen that's messed up?

Oh, and thanks to all who are keeping us updated. I know it's not your fault the posts are twice as wide as the screen!

Susan

raindrops300
04-06-2009, 09:38 PM
Mine is not doing that. My screen looks like it normally does.

lynnb
04-06-2009, 09:41 PM
I got the impression it was more of a softer material bag, such as a garment or duffel bag.

momtective
04-06-2009, 09:42 PM
This looks much more like it, but the handle was rounded, iirc, not so square.

Salem
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg

Salem
04-06-2009, 09:44 PM
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg

Thank you!

And doesn't it look like it has a 1/2 pocket at the top that has sunk in?

Salem

Emerald
04-06-2009, 09:44 PM
I'm having a frustrating time trying to see what's going on with this case while scrolling back and forth to read each line of each post. Is anyone else having this trouble, or is it just my screen that's messed up?

Oh, and thanks to all who are keeping us updated. I know it's not your fault the posts are twice as wide as the screen!

Susan

Mine did that on page 3 too. I think because of the pics in the thread. This page seems fine now though.

TGIRecovered
04-06-2009, 09:44 PM
Mine is not doing that. My screen looks like it normally does.

Okay, this page looks normal to me too, but when I click on the previous pages, it's messed up.:crazy:

Susan

TGIRecovered
04-06-2009, 09:46 PM
Annnnd now it's messed up on this one too!

OkGrace
04-06-2009, 09:47 PM
Thank you!

And doesn't it look like it has a 1/2 pocket at the top that has sunk in?

Salem

Or could it be the outside pockets are partially unzipped. Hard for me to explain but you know how the luggage usually has zippers that have 2 tabs that can meet anywhere on the track?

panthera
04-06-2009, 09:48 PM
I'm having a frustrating time trying to see what's going on with this case while scrolling back and forth to read each line of each post. Is anyone else having this trouble, or is it just my screen that's messed up?

Oh, and thanks to all who are keeping us updated. I know it's not your fault the posts are twice as wide as the screen!

Susan
Mine got stretched out on the previous page with the large photos. This page is fine, so far. :)

~Always Have Hope~
04-06-2009, 09:48 PM
oh bless TGIRecovered~ I'm sorry you are having issues on the pages......Mine appear to be working fine...

raindrops300
04-06-2009, 09:49 PM
Annnnd now it's messed up on this one too!
Mine has done that before. I don't remember why though. I think it sort of just fixed itself.

panthera
04-06-2009, 09:50 PM
I got the impression it was more of a softer material bag, such as a garment or duffel bag.
I heard it described as possibly a large duffel bag on JVM's show. But if these are actual photos of the bag being posted here, it seems more like a garment bag. What I can't see is how her body could be (intact) inside a folded garment bag. :waitasec:

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 09:51 PM
This looks much more like it, but the handle was rounded, iirc, not so square.

Salem

That's what I think it looks like too.

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 09:51 PM
f.y.i. lots of backpacks have rounded handles like that. I don't think it is a backpack but who knows...

Tonia
04-06-2009, 09:52 PM
Annnnd now it's messed up on this one too!

It's all myfault,i posted the big ole pic on page 3:crazy::bang:

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 09:53 PM
http://tracypress.com/content/view/17735/2268/

there will be another presser tonight at eight pm on the container.

(o/t I just got home from community orchesta and could barely play my barritone! Thinking happy thoughts for Sandra...)

TxLady2
04-06-2009, 09:53 PM
From what I've seen since being on WS, I think it's serious for one reason or another when the ME is brought in and to have all of those people out there for hours. I don't think LE wants to make up drama, etc. IMO. :(

Yes, they treated this MUCH differently than the PCSO did with the dumpsters in Satsuma. I didn't get to see JVM tonight, had some interruptions that threw me off, but have been reading what others said about the live feed... it's almost got to be something. I am praying for her family, they are going to need all the prayers they can get right now.
Btw, it took me a long time to find this thread. I was looking for something else, and just happened to look over and see Sandra's name.

Ms Suzanne
04-06-2009, 09:53 PM
This is very sad.I hope they find her safe somewhere.This doesn't look to good.

Tonia
04-06-2009, 09:55 PM
Whoever dumped this bag was watching the searchers "if this is connected to the case".


The last time the pond was drained was 10 days ago they said.
imo.

melley
04-06-2009, 09:55 PM
KRON just reported live news conference at 8pm.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 09:56 PM
KRON 4 News will have it live:http://www.kron.com/News/WatchKRON4NewsLiveOnline/tabid/354/Default.aspx

(That is one hour from now for non-locals)



http://tracypress.com/content/view/17735/2268/

there will be another presser tonight at eight pm on the container.

(o/t I just got home from community orchesta and could barely play my barritone! Thinking happy thoughts for Sandra...)

msfittz
04-06-2009, 09:59 PM
http://tracypress.com/content/view/17735/2268/

there will be another presser tonight at eight pm on the container.

(o/t I just got home from community orchesta and could barely play my barritone! Thinking happy thoughts for Sandra...)

From the article..."The container was moved to an undisclosed location, Sgt. Tony Sheneman said. According to news reports, it was transported to the county coroner's office in French Camp. "

Can anyone think of any reason why they would take this container to the coroner's office if there was no indication that it contained remains?

raindrops300
04-06-2009, 10:01 PM
http://tracypress.com/content/view/17735/2268/

there will be another presser tonight at eight pm on the container.

(o/t I just got home from community orchesta and could barely play my barritone! Thinking happy thoughts for Sandra...)

About an hour from now? I'm on Central time.

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 10:02 PM
Whoever dumped this bag was watching the searchers "if this is connected to the case".


The last time the pond was drained was 10 days ago they said.
imo.


That's possible. They also said they searched this area this past weekend and the Sunday before.

panthera
04-06-2009, 10:03 PM
About an hour from now? I'm on Central time.
Yes. :)

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:04 PM
exactly one hour from now... so that would be eight pacific, ten central, eleven eastern.

why take the bag to the coroner's office? I have that same question indeed!

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 10:04 PM
KRON 4 News will have it live:http://www.kron.com/News/WatchKRON4NewsLiveOnline/tabid/354/Default.aspx

(That is one hour from now for non-locals)


They haven't been holding late news conferences have they? I mean, this is unusual?

raindrops300
04-06-2009, 10:05 PM
Earlier someone mentioned it was found with red ribbon on/around it. Has anyone heard any more about this? I can't see that from any of the photos, but it just could be mud covered or not visible from camera angle.

panthera
04-06-2009, 10:05 PM
From the article..."The container was moved to an undisclosed location, Sgt. Tony Sheneman said. According to news reports, it was transported to the county coroner's office in French Camp. "

Can anyone think of any reason why they would take this container to the coroner's office if there was no indication that it contained remains?
I honestly can't think of why they'd have so many LE and CSI out there if they didn't suspect it was connected to the case. They've spent hours processing this area as if it was part of a crime scene. There has to be something leading them to believe it's connected to Sandra's disappearance and not just somebody dumping luggage into a pond. I hope I'm wrong though. MOO

momtective
04-06-2009, 10:05 PM
Thank you!

And doesn't it look like it has a 1/2 pocket at the top that has sunk in?

Salem

Not a perfect match but close
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/7a863c2d-be13-4519-81a4-2c5f23dd5e6.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 10:05 PM
Yes. :)

o/t panthera.. you watching the game?? As an NC native I have to share a little poem with you..

Duke Puke
Wake fake
down the drain with NC state
can't get to heaven in a red canoe
'cause God's favorite color is Carolina blue!!

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 10:06 PM
Not a perfect match but close
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/7a863c2d-be13-4519-81a4-2c5f23dd5e6.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg

That's pretty close. Just a little more narrow and longer.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 10:08 PM
I think that makes it pretty clear what is inside. (Still hoping and praying just in case.)


From the article..."The container was moved to an undisclosed location, Sgt. Tony Sheneman said. According to news reports, it was transported to the county coroner's office in French Camp. "

Can anyone think of any reason why they would take this container to the coroner's office if there was no indication that it contained remains?

White Hawk
04-06-2009, 10:08 PM
o/t panthera.. you watching the game?? As an NC native I have to share a little poem with you..

Duke Puke
Wake fake
down the drain with NC state
can't get to heaven in a red canoe
'cause God's favorite color is Carolina blue!!

I knew there was a reason I liked you!

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:08 PM
They haven't been holding late news conferences have they? I mean, this is unusual? no they haven't. Well, they had been doing two a day last week... but not at eight pm.

I think the reasoning for this is that they have crazed the public. Either it has something in it that is a part of this case or not they need to tampen down the craze.

If this was just any old suspicious item would they treat it the same way?

If they overreacted to this suspicious item they need to man up to it imhoo.

I guess we will find out in an hour....

lonetraveler
04-06-2009, 10:08 PM
o/t panthera.. you watching the game?? As an NC native I have to share a little poem with you..

Duke Puke
Wake fake
down the drain with NC state
can't get to heaven in a red canoe
'cause God's favorite color is Carolina blue!!


---
Man, that's cruel!!!!!:crazy:

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 10:08 PM
That's possible. They also said they searched this area this past weekend and the Sunday before.


Hey Lurkeyloo...if they searched it this past weekend, the suitcase would have had to have been placed there within the last 24 hours or so?

I wouldn't doubt someone, whoever it is that placed it there was watching the searches carefully...may not have thought the pond would be emptied so soon, if at all...IDK

What are the chances that the suitcase was overlooked twice? not much, imo...

Praying for Sandra

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:10 PM
they searched the general area...not the water... (it was just drained this morning)

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 10:11 PM
no they haven't. Well, they had been doing two a day last week... but not at eight pm.

I think the reasoning for this is that they have crazed the public. Either it has something in it that is a part of this case or not they need to tampen down the craze.

If this was just any old suspicious item would they treat it the same way?

If they overreacted to this suspicious item they need to man up to it imhoo.

I guess we will find out in an hour....



thanks nursebeeme. I'm hoping to hear good news. I'm very impressed with the LE in Tracy....have been through this whole thing. This must be pretty emotional for them...God Bless them All.

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 10:11 PM
Hey Lurkeyloo...if they searched it this past weekend, the suitcase would have had to have been placed there within the last 24 hours or so?

I wouldn't doubt someone, whoever it is that placed it there was watching the searches carefully...may not have thought the pond would be emptied so soon, if at all...IDK

What are the chances that the suitcase was overlooked twice? not much, imo...

Praying for Sandra


That's what I thought too. In the presser they never specified how the area was searched. So, IDK either. Just seems strange.

lonetraveler
04-06-2009, 10:12 PM
Thank you!

And doesn't it look like it has a 1/2 pocket at the top that has sunk in?

Salem

---could the part that looks sunk in be where that pocket is unzipped? and it makes the top portion of the pocket fall in because it doesn't have the zipper to support it in place?

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 10:13 PM
they searched the general area...not the water... (it was just drained this morning)

Thanks Nurse,

I wasn't sure if they had dogs search around the pond or not.

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:13 PM
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleView/tabid/298/smid/1126/ArticleID/947/reftab/36/t/Investigators-Handling-Black-Container-Found-Near-Tracy-Mobile-Home-Park-With-Utmost-Care/Default.aspx

for those who missed the afternoon presser

Chemaster
04-06-2009, 10:14 PM
They said they haven't seen a body but I wonder if there was a very very bad smell that tipped this off.

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:14 PM
hey lurky! I haven't heard if dogs were out there....

sttct
04-06-2009, 10:14 PM
So...it's at the coroners office. This is just going to be sad news isn't it.

secretsquirrel
04-06-2009, 10:15 PM
Based on all LE behavior and how they were visibly mapping out the area and treating the bag/where they took it. There's no doubt in my mind there is a body in that bag. Chances are that it is Sandra. I'm so sad over this.

panthera
04-06-2009, 10:17 PM
thanks nursebeeme. I'm hoping to hear good news. I'm very impressed with the LE in Tracy....have been through this whole thing. This must be pretty emotional for them...God Bless them All.
I hope I'm missing most of the basketball game posting here about Sandra just to find out the bag has nothing to do with her disappearance! :)

badme102
04-06-2009, 10:18 PM
KRON 4 News will have it live:http://www.kron.com/News/WatchKRON4NewsLiveOnline/tabid/354/Default.aspx

(That is one hour from now for non-locals)

Just curious, on the KRON website live feed, it says they only have newscasts until 7 PM (which is 10 PM for me).
Do you think they'll cover this live anyway due to the seriousness of it?

TIA

KaylynnCouture
04-06-2009, 10:18 PM
What time is the presser?

Thanks in advance.

panthera
04-06-2009, 10:19 PM
They said they haven't seen a body but I wonder if there was a very very bad smell that tipped this off.
It could very well be. MOO

panthera
04-06-2009, 10:20 PM
What time is the presser?

Thanks in advance.
8pm Pacific Daylight Time

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 10:20 PM
I've had that link open for a few hours and it just starts up whenever they turn the news on. If that isn't a regular news time for them, I'm guessing they are just going to break into whatever is scheduled. I don't really know since I never watched it until a day or two ago. Sorry not much help.


Just curious, on the KRON website live feed, it says they only have newscasts until 7 PM (which is 10 PM for me).
Do you think they'll cover this live anyway due to the seriousness of it?

TIA

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 10:22 PM
Forgot to mention...when their news ended about 20 minutes ago, they said they would be covering it live at 8:00 (40 minutes from now). That's where I got the idea they will just break into other coverage if it's not the regular news time.


Just curious, on the KRON website live feed, it says they only have newscasts until 7 PM (which is 10 PM for me).
Do you think they'll cover this live anyway due to the seriousness of it?

TIA

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 10:22 PM
Not a perfect match but close
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/7a863c2d-be13-4519-81a4-2c5f23dd5e6.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg

IMO, it seems a little bigger.

Salem
04-06-2009, 10:23 PM
Not a perfect match but close
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/7a863c2d-be13-4519-81a4-2c5f23dd5e6.jpg
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg

This looks really close, but I was just watching a video that Nursebee posted (I'll find the link and add it in just a minute) and the top of the case looks like it is leather or something stiffer than the body of the case. I'll find the link.

Salem

melley
04-06-2009, 10:24 PM
KRON will definitely carry this live. Its a local channel with no network affiliation. Its my local news channel. Normally they show Dr Phil at 8pm.

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 10:25 PM
Based on all LE behavior and how they were visibly mapping out the area and treating the bag/where they took it. There's no doubt in my mind there is a body in that bag. Chances are that it is Sandra. I'm so sad over this.

me too secretsquirrel....me too. I'm trying really hard to hold on to the last bit of hope i have, but all the marking and photographs and bagging stuff today...just makes me think that they wouldn't have done all that if it wasn't something....and the airplane (c130?) with the scanning thingamajig that flew over....it could tell them what was in the bag without them having to open it....throw in the ME....:(

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 10:26 PM
I hope we have good sound quality this time

christine2448
04-06-2009, 10:26 PM
:blowkiss:


What time is the presser?

Thanks in advance.


exactly one hour from now... so that would be eight pacific, ten central, eleven eastern.

passionflower
04-06-2009, 10:27 PM
I am watching Greta and everytime she says 'breaking news', I hold my breath......it's about Mexico killings and kc new tape release.........

arielilane
04-06-2009, 10:28 PM
http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/suitcase2-1-288x300.jpg
It looks like a garment bag
Thanks Blink
http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/69/43/96/69/0069439669441_150X150.jpg http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/61/88/42/11/0061884211466_150X150.jpg

christine2448
04-06-2009, 10:28 PM
I hope we have good sound quality this time

Do you have a good link and I can post and someone can repost each page until it's over? Then we don't get so many 'what time, where'...not that there is anything wrong with that, just trying to be helpful if we could repost links each page for those just coming or jumping in and out. TIA!

christine2448
04-06-2009, 10:29 PM
http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/69/43/96/69/0069439669441_150X150.jpg http://i.walmartimages.com/i/p/00/61/88/42/11/0061884211466_150X150.jpg

handle seems thicker, sturder, fuller then the ones I have seen posted so far, IMO.

ETA, not saying these are the bags, but look at the 'fullness' of the handle, solid.

http://www.thefind.com/apparel/browse-floto-leather-garment-bag

badme102
04-06-2009, 10:29 PM
I am watching Greta and everytime she says 'breaking news', I hold my breath......it's about Mexico killings and kc new tape release.........

I'm surprised it's not all about Chris Brown. :furious:

Sorry, I'm still furious with HLN for earlier.

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:29 PM
http://www.kron4.com/News/ArticleView/tabid/298/smid/1126/ArticleID/947/reftab/36/t/Investigators-Handling-Black-Container-Found-Near-Tracy-Mobile-Home-Park-With-Utmost-Care/Default.aspx

in the video box...third video down is a new Mark Klaas video on this case

arielilane
04-06-2009, 10:30 PM
Look at all of us on pins and needles waiting. i can't imagine how Sandra's family is feeling.

passionflower
04-06-2009, 10:30 PM
This looks really close, but I was just watching a video that Nursebee posted (I'll find the link and add it in just a minute) and the top of the case looks like it is leather or something stiffer than the body of the case. I'll find the link.

Salem

Yes, it does look like leather like material and a bit longer.
Actually looks expensive.
Took 6 guys to carry it. Looked like a longer travel suit/dress
bag...............did it have wheels? I didn't see any.
Wonder if any POI traveled allot?

panthera
04-06-2009, 10:31 PM
me too secretsquirrel....me too. I'm trying really hard to hold on to the last bit of hope i have, but all the marking and photographs and bagging stuff today...just makes me think that they wouldn't have done all that if it wasn't something....and the airplane (c130?) with the scanning thingamajig that flew over....it could tell them what was in the bag without them having to open it....throw in the ME....:(
I feel the same way you do. They've put a lot of man-hours into this for it not to be important.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 10:31 PM
I feel the same way. With Caylee I didn't have any hope due to her family's actions. However, it still hit me very hard when they found her little body. With Sandra, I have lots of reasons I'm still hoping and praying, and I'm just refusing to give into what seems obvious...even though it's seeming more obvious as the hours go by. If we knew what was happening at Sandra's house it might give us a clue because her family would need to be notified before 8PM if it's bad news.


me too secretsquirrel....me too. I'm trying really hard to hold on to the last bit of hope i have, but all the marking and photographs and bagging stuff today...just makes me think that they wouldn't have done all that if it wasn't something....and the airplane (c130?) with the scanning thingamajig that flew over....it could tell them what was in the bag without them having to open it....throw in the ME....:(

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 10:32 PM
Look at all of us on pins and needles waiting. i can't imagine how Sandra's family is feeling.

I think they already know. LE would have to tell them first.

LaLaw2000
04-06-2009, 10:32 PM
IMO, the odor surrounding that bag is what made the farmer call LE. There just had to have been an odor of decomposition for seasoned LE to have called the ME.

By this time, the ME knows whether or not it would be Sandra. I am hoping and praying it is not and that she is alive and well somewhere. It just does not sound good, tho. The positive identification would have to be made, then the mother and father would have to be notified. I am surprised at the PC tonight. I would have expected one early in the morning. If there had been nothing in the bag, wouldn't LE have just issued a press release that nothing relating to Sandra was found?

I have not been posting much but have kept up with Sandra's disappearance every day. There is one thing I am hearing that I do not like, and that is the installation of the camera only a couple of weeks prior. IMO, someone was well aware of that camera and wanted Sandra to be leaving camera range alive and well.

JMO

sttct
04-06-2009, 10:32 PM
Sandra's family would have been notified by now right? or at least notified of a possible finding?

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:32 PM
Link to 1st thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82126 (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82126)

Link to ASTRO Thread: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82366

Please continue posting here.

Good background links: http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra (http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra)
http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.d...=A_SPECIAL0263 (http://www.recordnet.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=A_SPECIAL0263)
http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra (http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra) (Nurse says this is a good site!)


Local news site: http://tracypress.com/content/view/17695/2268/ (http://tracypress.com/content/view/17695/2268/)

Livestream links: http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/ (http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/) http://www.fox40.com/pages/main (http://www.fox40.com/pages/main)
http://www.kcra.com/index.html (http://www.kcra.com/index.html) (this one seems to work best for me).
http://kron.com/News/WatchKRON4NewsL...4/Default.aspx (http://kron.com/News/WatchKRON4NewsLiveOnline/tabid/354/Default.aspx)

Police blotter link: http://www.zirana.com/tracy/crime

San Joaquin Court records: http://www.stocktoncourt.org/caseinfo.htm

Stanislaus Court records:
Santa Clara Court records:
Stanislaus property records:

What am I missing that you would like here?

Thanks,

Salem


Hi Christine! Hope this helps everyone and thank you Salem

arielilane
04-06-2009, 10:36 PM
Don't business type people (whether male or female) who travel a lot use the type of luggage that was found?

~Always Have Hope~
04-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Just a quick question, and my apologies if this has been discussed already...but I know that I read (on thread 3??) that the family was going to issue a statement after the earlier press release...Did this happen?

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 10:37 PM
I think they already know. LE would have to tell them first.

Yes, and wasn't the family supposed to give a statement at this afternoon's presser? I was under the impression that one of them would have actually been there to speak. The man who spoke at the presser said something to the affect of, "and that's the end of the statement I was just handed." Change in plans?

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Wow!!! during the afternoon presser...le said the news copters up in the air were,
"in violation of an FAA regulation".....

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 10:38 PM
Wow!!! during the afternoon presser...le said the news copters up in the air were,
"in violation of an FAA regulation".....


Yeah- they declared the area a "no fly" zone

ETA-that's a first isn't it?

Cherry Baby
04-06-2009, 10:39 PM
I've seen this particular type of suitcase or bag before, in fact my kid has one that we bought for her when she went on a choir trip last year. The handle extends up. The one she has is more similar to what was found, it's more slender than the ones arielilane has in her pics (thanks btw!) and it has the same zipper case attached in the front. This one looks a little higher end than the one we got though.

Figures they'd have a press conference when I'm heading for bed.

momtective
04-06-2009, 10:40 PM
All links to past info on POI in Oakdale that was searched no longer work...not for me anyway
Quote:
Judy Thomas and her husband Arnold Thomas watched the search from across the street. Agents looked through a boat that sat in the driveway of the Oakdale home, brought out canines to sniff out the property and used ladders to help search unreachable areas.
There was also a hole dug a few inches into the ground in the backyard, sitting next to a number of shovels and metal detectors.
Both the FBI and the Tracy Police are not releasing any information about this search for fear of hindering the investigation.
http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_s...95&feedID=2674

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 10:40 PM
Don't business type people (whether male or female) who travel a lot use the type of luggage that was found?

Lots of people use that kind of luggage, if it's the kind that I can see from the grainy pictures.

arielilane
04-06-2009, 10:40 PM
tracy press site is unavailable. at least that was the message i got.

badme102
04-06-2009, 10:41 PM
You know, I'm sitting here waiting with the rest of you, feeling the enormous love we all have for this beautiful little girl. I am crying my eyes out for so many reasons, the first one being the obvious--Sandra.
I have to say though, that the overwhelming love I feel just being here with you wonderful people helps me believe that there is still hope for this world yet. Thank you all for being who you are.

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 10:41 PM
Just a quick question, and my apologies if this has been discussed already...but I know that I read (on thread 3??) that the family was going to issue a statement after the earlier press release...Did this happen?

I posted right after you about this. :crazy:

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 10:41 PM
It was a written statement. Nothing surprising as I remember - just things you would expect from a broken family. They wouldn't be attending future prayer vigils as I recall.

My heart breaks for them.


Just a quick question, and my apologies if this has been discussed already...but I know that I read (on thread 3??) that the family was going to issue a statement after the earlier press release...Did this happen?

msfittz
04-06-2009, 10:41 PM
Just a quick question, and my apologies if this has been discussed already...but I know that I read (on thread 3??) that the family was going to issue a statement after the earlier press release...Did this happen?

I read somewhere that the family spokesperson is no longer representing them. I took that to be their statement/announcement.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19110332/detail.html
from the article..."At Monday afternoon's media update, Sheneman read a statement from Maria Chavez, Cantu's mother. In it, Chavez said Lisa Encarnacion is no longer a representative for the family, and she thanked Encarnacion and Tracy police for their work."

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 10:43 PM
tracy press site is unavailable. at least that was the message i got.

I think the whole site has been out of commission since this breaking news. We broke it.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 10:43 PM
Aaaahhh! I feel the same way. :blowkiss:


You know, I'm sitting here waiting with the rest of you, feeling the enormous love we all have for this beautiful little girl. I am crying my eyes out for so many reasons, the first one being the obvious--Sandra.
I have to say though, that the overwhelming love I feel just being here with you wonderful people helps me believe that there is still hope for this world yet. Thank you all for being who you are.

LaLaw2000
04-06-2009, 10:47 PM
In one pic the bag looks to me like a very thick and sturdy garment bag, and in another it looks like a hikers bag with a metal frame.

I wonder how it is 'sealed'?

~Always Have Hope~
04-06-2009, 10:47 PM
I posted right after you about this. :crazy:

the joys of slow computers! thanks!

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 10:47 PM
My stomach is doing flip flops. That image of her skipping will be haunting to me if this is indeed her. Still praying it's not!!!!!!!!!!!!

Asti
04-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Greta just said that we would get the update when they get it. I am assuming she is meaning FoxNews.

~Always Have Hope~
04-06-2009, 10:48 PM
I read somewhere that the family spokesperson is no longer representing them. I took that to be their statement/announcement. I'll see if I can find the link.

super~ TIA :)

White Hawk
04-06-2009, 10:48 PM
All links to past info on POI in Oakdale that was searched no longer work...not for me anyway
Quote:
Judy Thomas and her husband Arnold Thomas watched the search from across the street. Agents looked through a boat that sat in the driveway of the Oakdale home, brought out canines to sniff out the property and used ladders to help search unreachable areas.
There was also a hole dug a few inches into the ground in the backyard, sitting next to a number of shovels and metal detectors.
Both the FBI and the Tracy Police are not releasing any information about this search for fear of hindering the investigation.
http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_s...95&feedID=2674

This one is working.

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?ONLY-ON-FOX40-FBI-Searches-Home-Of-Inter=1&blockID=256595&feedID=2674

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 10:49 PM
On the front page is a pic of the suitcase in a bodybag on the stretcher.

http://www.kron.com/

ETA: other story pop up as well. It will scroll to the picture.

Salem
04-06-2009, 10:49 PM
I posted right after you about this. :crazy:

I did see a statement from the family at Channel 10 (I think) that said the spokesperson was NO LONGER the spokes person and Sandra's mom thanked her for all her help. I didn't read the rest of it, because I thought it was old? and I was looking for something else and was hurrying :crazy:

Has anyone heard to date that Lisa E. was no longer the spokesperson?

Salem

LaLaw2000
04-06-2009, 10:50 PM
I read somewhere that the family spokesperson is no longer representing them. I took that to be their statement/announcement.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19110332/detail.html
from the article..."At Monday afternoon's media update, Sheneman read a statement from Maria Chavez, Cantu's mother. In it, Chavez said Lisa Encarnacion is no longer a representative for the family, and she thanked Encarnacion and Tracy police for their work."

HHMMMM, I wonder why? This is odd.

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 10:50 PM
Ten minutes till presser. Does anyone have a live link yet? TIA.

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 10:52 PM
the joys of slow computers! thanks!

I was just saying great minds think alike. :)

TripleA
04-06-2009, 10:52 PM
Can someone please direct me to the live feed. I click on the links but it just gives me the home page, no live feed.

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 10:53 PM
http://www.kron.com/News/WatchKRON4NewsLiveOnline/tabid/354/Default.aspx

Salem
04-06-2009, 10:53 PM
On the front page is a pic of the suitcase in a bodybag on the stretcher.

http://www.kron.com/

ETA: other story pop up as well. It will scroll to the picture.

That pretty much says it all, doesn't it? :(

Salem

~Always Have Hope~
04-06-2009, 10:53 PM
I read somewhere that the family spokesperson is no longer representing them. I took that to be their statement/announcement.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19110332/detail.html
from the article..."At Monday afternoon's media update, Sheneman read a statement from Maria Chavez, Cantu's mother. In it, Chavez said Lisa Encarnacion is no longer a representative for the family, and she thanked Encarnacion and Tracy police for their work."


snipped~

Hope that okay to do! (still new here)

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 10:54 PM
I don't think they work until 8PM. At least I have KCRA & KRON open in links and nothing is happening yet.

Can someone confirm that is how it works?? TIA!


Can someone please direct me to the live feed. I click on the links but it just gives me the home page, no live feed.

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 10:54 PM
On the front page is a pic of the suitcase in a bodybag on the stretcher.

http://www.kron.com/

ETA: other story pop up as well. It will scroll to the picture.

:eek: that is a sad photo.

TripleA
04-06-2009, 10:54 PM
I think I have it now.

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:55 PM
that bodybag photo is sad, mew.....

sc2714
04-06-2009, 10:55 PM
At the top of the FOX40 site it says awaiting press conference at 8:15.

Salem
04-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Can someone please direct me to the live feed. I click on the links but it just gives me the home page, no live feed.

Mew posted a link for you, but if you have trouble, look at all the banner stuff until you see something that says Live Now or Live stream. If nothing there, try hitting the News button and see if anything comes up.

For some reason, some sites seem to hide their "live" link :confused:

Salem

arielilane
04-06-2009, 10:56 PM
That pretty much says it all, doesn't it? :(

Salem
Unfortunately, yes it does. I don't want to believe it.:(

TripleA
04-06-2009, 10:56 PM
Streaming now, setting up for presser.

sc2714
04-06-2009, 10:56 PM
Oh my. This is all too familiar...

mollymil23
04-06-2009, 10:56 PM
Here is the Fox40 link
mms://a1181.l2198251180.c21982.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1181/21982/v0001/reflector:51180
It says 8:15 for the presser.
Here is a link to the Fox40 home page
http://www.fox40.com/pages/main

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 10:56 PM
On the front page is a pic of the suitcase in a bodybag on the stretcher.

http://www.kron.com/

ETA: other story pop up as well. It will scroll to the picture.

Thanks. That is a very disturbing picture. Even it they are trying to protect evidence, the whole body bag and suitcase thing is sad.

White Hawk
04-06-2009, 10:57 PM
I don't think they work until 8PM. At least I have KCRA & KRON open in links and nothing is happening yet.

Can someone confirm that is how it works?? TIA!

Hang in there. When they go live again, it will start.

christine2448
04-06-2009, 10:57 PM
this is working for me, for now..never know..it opened my real player, i can see, not hear yet not sure if sound is coming ??

Now Streaming: Awaiting press conference at 8:15PM from Tracy Police on contents of sealed container (mms://a1181.l2198251180.c21982.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1181/21982/v0001/reflector:51180)

TripleA
04-06-2009, 10:57 PM
Mew posted a link for you, but if you have trouble, look at all the banner stuff until you see something that says Live Now or Live stream. If nothing there, try hitting the News button and see if anything comes up.

For some reason, some sites seem to hide their "live" link :confused:

Salem

Thanks, I was thinking the same thing about them hiding the feed.

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Three minutes and KRON isn't live.

FifthEssence
04-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Ten minutes till presser. Does anyone have a live link yet? TIA.



Link to 8:15pm PST upcoming presser
http://www.fox40.com/pages/main

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 10:58 PM
:cry:
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu27/ilovemew/rolling.jpg

Salem
04-06-2009, 10:58 PM
I don't think they work until 8PM. At least I have KCRA & KRON open in links and nothing is happening yet.

Can someone confirm that is how it works?? TIA!

That's how it works Nora. From SusieQ's post it sounds like the presser has been delayed a bit. Hang tight!

Salem

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:58 PM
http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra

click on the link to watch it from this page... they are saying it starts at 8:15 now

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 10:59 PM
Streaming now, setting up for presser.

What link? Thanks!

badme102
04-06-2009, 10:59 PM
Can someone please direct me to the live feed. I click on the links but it just gives me the home page, no live feed.

http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra

On the top part of the page it says, "Now streaming"...click on that.

It says 8:15 now

passionflower
04-06-2009, 10:59 PM
On the front page is a pic of the suitcase in a bodybag on the stretcher.

http://www.kron.com/

ETA: other story pop up as well. It will scroll to the picture.

after seeing this pix and reading our forensic astro thread, I think Sandra
may be in the arms of angels.
If this is her, I am really heartbroken, but atleast her parents will know where she is.
The NEVER knowing would be more of a torture.
I hope allot of evidence is 'preserved' to put a monster away for this crime!

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 10:59 PM
LOL fifth! we posted that at the same time.....

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 11:00 PM
Thank you so much for the links!

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 11:00 PM
http://www.kron.com/News/WatchKRON4NewsLiveOnline/tabid/354/Default.aspx

another link to watch. Click play... when they go live it shows up in the wittle owange box

tehcloser
04-06-2009, 11:00 PM
http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/

Is up......lots of laughing....maybe it's not bad news.

christine2448
04-06-2009, 11:01 PM
this is working for me, for now..never know..it opened my real player, i can see, not hear yet not sure if sound is coming ??

Now Streaming: Awaiting press conference at 8:15PM from Tracy Police on contents of sealed container (mms://a1181.l2198251180.c21982.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1181/21982/v0001/reflector:51180)

it's working fine for me now.

nursebeeme
04-06-2009, 11:01 PM
www.kcra.com (http://www.kcra.com)
www.kron.com (http://www.kron.com)
www.fox40.com (http://www.fox40.com)
www.searchforsandra.com (http://www.searchforsandra.com)

these are all outlets that have coverage

~Always Have Hope~
04-06-2009, 11:02 PM
in 15 mins? did they push back the time?

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 11:02 PM
Fox is live, KRON is not.

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 11:03 PM
http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/

Is up......lots of laughing....maybe it's not bad news.

Unfortunately that's not a predictor of bad news press conferences.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 11:04 PM
that's my thought...hoping and praying.


http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/

Is up......lots of laughing....maybe it's not bad news.

breanna
04-06-2009, 11:05 PM
This poor little girl and her family. I can't seem to stop watching this unfold. It's surreal.

I think what did it for me today was when there were 3 LE standing by the "bag". All three looked over the side at it, then one of them immediately went all the way back to the other side of the road. The other two remained and looked to be taking notes. Right then I went....Oh No. And of course the ME there.

They would not have all this going on unless they knew. Especially the pic of them loading the "bag" on the gurney. Just not right.

There is something so fundamentally wrong when we all have to sit here and stare at these live videos and feel in our hearts that this is indeed another missing little girl who has been discarded like trash. It's just wrong.

My heart is heavy once again. I so pray I'm wrong. I'll sit this out though for little Sandra. It's the least I can do for the lil' pumpkin.

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 11:05 PM
Or they don't know either. Maybe it's like a safety thing for your brain. Keep the atmosphere light in pressers like this.
Oh please don't be Sandra!

tehcloser
04-06-2009, 11:05 PM
Unfortunately that's not a predictor of bad news press conferences.

I'm just holding out hope Susie....:)

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 11:05 PM
KCRA is live now also.

amysmom
04-06-2009, 11:06 PM
http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra

On the top part of the page it says, "Now streaming"...click on that.

It says 8:15 now

TY!! This link works!

I have such a KNOT in my stomach right now :(

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 11:06 PM
http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/

Is up......lots of laughing....maybe it's not bad news.

I hope, but maybe they don't know.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 11:07 PM
Thank you, Breanna. :blowkiss:


This poor little girl and her family. I can't seem to stop watching this unfold. It's surreal.

I think what did it for me today was when there were 3 LE standing by the "bag". All three looked over the side at it, then one of them immediately went all the way back to the other side of the road. The other two remained and looked to be taking notes. Right then I went....Oh No. And of course the ME there.

They would not have all this going on unless they knew. Especially the pic of them loading the "bag" on the gurney. Just not right.

There is something so fundamentally wrong when we all have to sit here and stare at these live videos and feel in our hearts that this is indeed another missing little girl who has been discarded like trash. It's just wrong.

My heart is heavy once again. I so pray I'm wrong. I'll sit this out though for little Sandra. It's the least I can do for the lil' pumpkin.

secretsquirrel
04-06-2009, 11:07 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they've made an arrest as well.

MnkeyBznes
04-06-2009, 11:07 PM
I can't watch presser will someone be letting us know please? TIA

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 11:08 PM
I'm just holding out hope Susie....:)

And not a damn thing wrong with that. :blowkiss:

raindrops300
04-06-2009, 11:08 PM
KRON is still just image of blue and orange. Is that the right one?

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 11:09 PM
If it's bad news I sure hope they have made an arrest!!


I wouldn't be surprised if they've made an arrest as well.

sttct
04-06-2009, 11:09 PM
they seem light hearted....this could be good as in not bad news.

secretsquirrel
04-06-2009, 11:09 PM
The scene with the three LE this afternoon who obviously couldn't stand to be close to the bag because of the smell is what did it for me too. They only went close when they needed to for photos etc. and then they got away as quickly as possible.

lurkeyloo
04-06-2009, 11:09 PM
I can't watch presser will someone be letting us know please? TIA

Yes, usually together we can post a play by play.

Salem
04-06-2009, 11:09 PM
On FifthEssence's link at Fox you can see everyone jockying for position - so we are about to go. First time Fox has worked for me and it comes in really well!

Salem

raindrops300
04-06-2009, 11:09 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they've made an arrest as well.

I agree.

~Always Have Hope~
04-06-2009, 11:09 PM
My links aren't working!!! can someone fill me in please and TIA!

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 11:10 PM
KRON is still just image of blue and orange. Is that the right one?

That means it's not live yet. Try this one.

http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra

secretsquirrel
04-06-2009, 11:10 PM
they seem light hearted....this could be good as in not bad news.

The people setting up the conference won't necessarily know until the announcement is read.

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 11:11 PM
That does seem like it can't be anything other than bad news. :( I may end the presser with a good cry.


The scene with the three LE this afternoon who obviously couldn't stand to be close to the bag because of the smell is what did it for me too. They only went close when they needed to for photos etc. and then they got away as quickly as possible.

sttct
04-06-2009, 11:11 PM
This is true. I am praying for Sandra and her family ;(

arielilane
04-06-2009, 11:12 PM
this is working for me, for now..never know..it opened my real player, i can see, not hear yet not sure if sound is coming ??

Now Streaming: Awaiting press conference at 8:15PM from Tracy Police on contents of sealed container (mms://a1181.l2198251180.c21982.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1181/21982/v0001/reflector:51180)
christine posted a good link. full view and sound.

badme102
04-06-2009, 11:12 PM
My links aren't working!!! can someone fill me in please and TIA!


http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra

are you here? If so, what do you see?

sttct
04-06-2009, 11:13 PM
I see a podium?

Brains & NoBull
04-06-2009, 11:13 PM
The waiting is unbearable. I hope that they did not leave Sandra's family in suspense for very long. I can not imagine what a rough day this has been for them. :(

raindrops300
04-06-2009, 11:13 PM
That means it's not live yet. Try this one.

http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra

Thanks, I switched. Got it now.

arielilane
04-06-2009, 11:13 PM
It is heartbreaking to see the missing Sandra poster on the stand.

~Always Have Hope~
04-06-2009, 11:15 PM
http://www.fox40.com/pages/search_for_sandra

are you here? If so, what do you see?

I get some kind of error message when I try that one. I am on the news10.net site that someone else posted a link for.....I'm seeing a courtroom or something??? is that right?

please and TIA :)

SuziQ
04-06-2009, 11:16 PM
Sounds like ALOT of people there.

Recovering-Lurker
04-06-2009, 11:16 PM
It is heartbreaking to see the missing Sandra poster on the stand.

Kind of like the giant picture of Caylee when they announced her remains were found? :(

Cherry Baby
04-06-2009, 11:16 PM
The scene with the three LE this afternoon who obviously couldn't stand to be close to the bag because of the smell is what did it for me too.

I agree. If someone had taken those steps to rid themselves of a dead pet, they would have announced a couple of hours ago that it was an animal right away and not gone thru a press conference.

Poor family...I'm not particularly religious but no matter what way this goes they'll be in my thoughts and prayers tonight.

Meagain
04-06-2009, 11:16 PM
This link has been live for 20 min.

http://www.kcra.com/video/9292412/index.html

Sunburst70791
04-06-2009, 11:16 PM
I get some kind of error message when I try that one. I am on the news10.net site that someone else posted a link for.....I'm seeing a courtroom or something??? is that right?

please and TIA :)


yes....a guy on the phone?

Salem
04-06-2009, 11:16 PM
We're still waiting. Looks like the guy on the phone is trying to figure out what is happening.

Salem

Nora Charles
04-06-2009, 11:16 PM
Yes.

This is torture. I feel like I'm waiting for news about a family member.


I get some kind of error message when I try that one. I am on the news10.net site that someone else posted a link for.....I'm seeing a courtroom or something??? is that right?

please and TIA :)

ilovemew
04-06-2009, 11:16 PM
This little girl, this little angel has close to 100 members of WS staying up late just to hear about her. That is so sad and comforting at the same time ya know what I mean...

badme102
04-06-2009, 11:17 PM
I get some kind of error message when I try that one. I am on the news10.net site that someone else posted a link for.....I'm seeing a courtroom or something??? is that right?

please and TIA :)

Yes, that's what it looks like. With a podium and many microphones. :)

Actually, there's not that many microphones. :crazy: