Melissa Huckaby

[SeriouslySearching]

Woman in mobile home park reported missing suitcase

A Sunday school teacher said someone took her black rolling suitcase from the Orchard Estates Mobile Home Park on the day 8-year-old murder victim Sandra Cantu disappeared.

It’s a huge suitcase, 28-year-old Melissa Huckaby said in a phone interview today, waterproof, charcoal-trimmed and has an Eddie Bauer logo on the front.

Police have yet to confirm whether it’s the same one found Monday morning that contained Sandra’s dead body.

~snip~

Farmworkers discovered a suitcase that generally matches that description submerged in a dairy lagoon two miles north of mobile home park where Sandra lived. Huckaby has lived there, too, for a year with her grandparents Clifford Lane and Connie Lawless, after having moved up from Southern California, she said.

Huckaby teaches Sunday school at Clover Road Baptist Church, her grandfather’s church just down the street from the mobile home park. She spruces up the church classroom every few months, she said, and had packed up in the suitcase with everything she needed to re-do the room that day.

Sandra had come over earlier and asked to play with her 5-year-old daughter, Huckaby said. But Huckaby didn’t want her daughter to play because she had to pick up her toys. So Sandra left for another friend’s house. Eighteen seconds of surveillance footage that shows Sandra playfully skipping by her family’s home show her on her way back to Huckaby’s home after leaving that other friend’s house, Huckaby said.

After Sandra left, her oldest sister Miranda went to Huckaby’s house, too. Huckaby asked Miranda if she could watch her daughter for her while she went down the street to the church. Connie Lawless was home, too.

Huckaby then set the packed suitcase on the driveway by her dark purple Kia SUV — the same one FBI agents and Tracy police detectives towed and searched Tuesday night. But she forgot her cell phone and keys inside the house, so she went back in for about 15 minutes to find them. She couldn’t, so she picked up the spare key and left.

She forgot about the suitcase and left it on the driveway.

When she got to the church, Huckaby’s grandmother called and said she found her keys and cell phone. Huckaby said that’s when she realized she had left the $200 suitcase outside. When her family went out to get it, they said it was gone.

“So I talked to the assistant manager at the mobile home park and asked him to keep an eye out for this suitcase, someone took it,” Huckaby said. “I also told some older kids to look out for it. I didn’t think much then because, you know, kids were getting out of school and I thought that maybe someone, maybe someone walking by just took it.”

She called Tracy police intending to file a report, but decided to do it online. She never got around to it.

~snip~

Huckaby has spent several days since last week in the intensive care unit at Sutter Tracy Community Hospital for “internal bleeding,” though she refused to say exactly what condition she was admitted for. She was released Thursday morning, she said.

Police had interviewed her at the hospital.

“It’s where I was, and I told them that’s where I was, so they came just because they had a few questions to ask me about what I know,” she said.

Dispatchers said over the police scanner on Tuesday that officers were “changing detail” at the hospital, where they had evidently been stationed for several hours.

Court records show a 28-year-old Melissa Huckaby pleaded no contest on Jan. 9 to a felony charge of second degree commercial burglary and a misdemeanor charge of petty theft with prior theft/burglary/robbery. The criminal complaint says she was locked up in Los Angeles County for conviction of petty theft in November 2006 and that she tried to steal something from Target in November last year.

The complaint says she’s on probation in San Joaquin County and is due back in court on April 17, when she might be sentenced.

The documents list the woman’s address as 812 W. Clover Road, Space No. 57, which city property records show is owned by Clifford Lane Lawless and Connie Lawless.

The Melissa Huckaby interviewed today said that’s not her.

Asked why the address and cell phone number in the court documents match her own, she said she has no idea.

“I don’t know what to say,” she said. “That’s not me.”

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open

[Nora Charles]

Questions:

What is her internal bleeding from? (SPECULATION ALERT: Injury?)
Is there a camera (Sandra's family or anyone's) pointed that way?
Is she really a criminal or is it a mistake as she claims?
Connie Lawless was home, who else was?
Where was pastor Lawless at this time?

[butterfly1978]

I just dont know what to say, Maybe FW and MH did it together... that would explain the plural and if Preacherman knew there is a three way connection.

[nursebeeme]

this explains away a lot of persons we thought were suspicious. from the way LE searched the church maybe Melissa H did take that suitcase with her but the stuff in it was not for her classroom????

[butterfly1978]

Maybe the internal bleeding is because of an ulcer, caused by stress. If she is involved then that would do it.

[SeriouslySearching]

Sandra had come over earlier and asked to play with her 5-year-old daughter, Huckaby said. But Huckaby didn’t want her daughter to play because she had to pick up her toys. So Sandra left for another friend’s house. Eighteen seconds of surveillance footage that shows Sandra playfully skipping by her family’s home show her on her way back to Huckaby’s home after leaving that other friend’s house, Huckaby said.

After Sandra left, her oldest sister Miranda went to Huckaby’s house, too. Huckaby asked Miranda if she could watch her daughter for her while she went down the street to the church. Connie Lawless was home, too.

Huckaby then set the packed suitcase on the driveway by her dark purple Kia SUV — the same one FBI agents and Tracy police detectives towed and searched Tuesday night. But she forgot her cell phone and keys inside the house, so she went back in for about 15 minutes to find them. She couldn’t, so she picked up the spare key and left.

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open

This would mean she was the last one to see Sandra alive, had access to the suitcase, the church, and had no alibi for the exact time that Sandra went missing. Wouldn't it?!

[nursebeeme]

Huckaby has spent several days since last week in the intensive care unit at Sutter Tracy Community Hospital for “internal bleeding,” though she refused to say exactly what condition she was admitted for. She was released Thursday morning, she said.

Police had interviewed her at the hospital.

“It’s where I was, and I told them that’s where I was, so they came just because they had a few questions to ask me about what I know,” she said.

Dispatchers said over the police scanner on Tuesday that officers were “changing detail” at the hospital, where they had evidently been stationed for several hours.


Is it just me or does it seem that she left out, oh by the way someone took my suitcase, on the night cops were knocking on doors???

[luvtenniss]

Wow - just wow! One thing that hit me about the article: MH said the video was of Sandra skipping on her way back to their house. How does MH know Sandra was heading there if she never made it? Sounds suspicious.

[SouthernMom]

Maybe MH backed up her SUV into Sandra and then decided to cover it up bc she was already going back to court on the 17th (If she is indeed that MH in the court records.)

[wfgodot]

Me, I'm still stuck on "Wow! Just Wow!!!" and am thus unable to contribute at this time.

[i.b.nora]

I found this a couple of days ago, wonder if this was her?

http://www.localcrimenews.com/lookup.php?jid=3301990

BLOCKED: PRIVACY PROTECTION* Map It
812 W Clover Rd Spc 57
Tracy , CA 95376-1712 Verified Address

Reported: 11/03/2008 by Crime Reporter No. 7195
Source: Tracy PD

F PC459 Burglary
F PC666 Petty Theft With Prior

[galvino]

Things that make ya go Hmmmmm...

something smells rotton in Denmark!

[Nora Charles]

Exactly, SS!!

[wfgodot]

Indeed something is rotten in the state of Denmark, galvino.

[Nora Charles]

Where is her husband? Could he be involved?

[galvino]

Maybe MH backed up her SUV into Sandra and then decided to cover it up bc she was already going back to court on the 17th (If she is indeed that MH in the court records.)


As awful as that would be, it is a much better scenario than what we've been dreading

[nursebeeme]

and the presser is coming up people....

[nursebeeme]

(((hi Galvino!!))) you are right about that

[nursebeeme]

http://www.kron.com/News/WatchKRON4NewsLiveOnline/tabid/354/Default.aspx
good presser link...one that doesn't eat up your whole screen! lOL

[LaLaw2000]

Well! I wonder if this is what the PC is about? HLN stated a little while ago that there would be a PC in approximately an hour.

[galvino]

this is gonna ((bee)) a long 15 minutes!

[LaLaw2000]

Is it just me or does it seem that she left out, oh by the way someone took my suitcase, on the night cops were knocking on doors???

Either she is a potential suspect or considered to be a potential material witness or there would not be a police guard stationed there!

[passionflower]

Maybe the internal bleeding is because of an ulcer, caused by stress. If she is involved then that would do it.

or from a child kicking her in the gut???

This is way out there.........BUT is she married?
Could she and Fred be lovers? That being a connection to him being there and knowing Sandra??? In my mind only..........

[wfgodot]

or from a child kicking her in the gut???

This is way out there.........BUT is she married?
Could she and Fred be lovers? That being a connection to him being there and knowing Sandra??? In my mind only..........

I thought the "child kicking her in the gut" part, but was too aghast to say it. Thanks for your boldness.

[SeriouslySearching]

She forgot about the suitcase and left it on the driveway.

When she got to the church, Huckaby’s grandmother called and said she found her keys and cell phone. Huckaby said that’s when she realized she had left the $200 suitcase outside. When her family went out to get it, they said it was gone.

“So I talked to the assistant manager at the mobile home park and asked him to keep an eye out for this suitcase, someone took it,” Huckaby said. “I also told some older kids to look out for it. I didn’t think much then because, you know, kids were getting out of school and I thought that maybe someone, maybe someone walking by just took it.”

She called Tracy police intending to file a report, but decided to do it online. She never got around to it.

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open

She is lying! Sgt. T. Sheneman said there was no such call or report. So she said she called them, but changed her mind and was going to do it online...yet never got around to it! What did she say when she "called Tracy police" then?! Excuse the ring?

[nursebeeme]

We did some sleuthing on Melissa when her car was first taken and couldn't find an address locally....but now seeing that she is living with her grandparents and from SoCal, it makes sense. Her "other" name is Melissa Lawless. We have, burried in the threads somewhere, her Dad's myspace and several other family myspace pages.

[gibby207]

Hink! Hink! Hink!!!

[galvino]

Stink! Stink! Stink!!!

[passionflower]

Sandra had come over earlier and asked to play with her 5-year-old daughter, Huckaby said. But Huckaby didn’t want her daughter to play because she had to pick up her toys. So Sandra left for another friend’s house. Eighteen seconds of surveillance footage that shows Sandra playfully skipping by her family’s home show her on her way back to Huckaby’s home after leaving that other friend’s house, Huckaby said.

After Sandra left, her oldest sister Miranda went to Huckaby’s house, too. Huckaby asked Miranda if she could watch her daughter for her while she went down the street to the church. Connie Lawless was home, too.
Huckaby then set the packed suitcase on the driveway by her dark purple Kia SUV — the same one FBI agents and Tracy police detectives towed and searched Tuesday night. But she forgot her cell phone and keys inside the house, so she went back in for about 15 minutes to find them. She couldn’t, so she picked up the spare key and left.http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open

This would mean she was the last one to see Sandra alive, had access to the suitcase, the church, and had no alibi for the exact time that Sandra went missing. Wouldn't it?!
bold by me...............

[nursebeeme]

My jaw is still on the floor over this article.

[wfgodot]

My jaw is still on the floor over this article.

Great catch.

[Nora Charles]

If Connie Lawless was home, why did Miranda (Sandra's sister) be needed to watch Melissa's child? Was this a way to keep her "busy" so she didn't see what was going on outside?

[nursebeeme]

good question nora!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nora Charles]

This does show how good LE is that this hasn't leaked - other than William's comment.

[nursebeeme]

why lie about her criminal charges? She sounds like she has lots of issues!

[LaLaw2000]

She forgot about the suitcase and left it on the driveway.

When she got to the church, Huckaby’s grandmother called and said she found her keys and cell phone. Huckaby said that’s when she realized she had left the $200 suitcase outside. When her family went out to get it, they said it was gone.

“So I talked to the assistant manager at the mobile home park and asked him to keep an eye out for this suitcase, someone took it,” Huckaby said. “I also told some older kids to look out for it. I didn’t think much then because, you know, kids were getting out of school and I thought that maybe someone, maybe someone walking by just took it.”

She called Tracy police intending to file a report, but decided to do it online. She never got around to it.

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open

She is lying! Sgt. T. Sheneman said there was no such call or report. So she said she called them, but changed her mind and was going to do it online...yet never got around to it! What did she say when she "called Tracy police" then?! Excuse the ring?

You are so right, SS!

I think she is so lying about leaving the suitcase in the drive. She clearly (IMO) wanted someone (her mother) inside the home to go outside to the driveway and tell her that the suitcase was no longer there.

And leaving her cell phone at home? Great way for there to be no cell phone pings!

[nursebeeme]

you are right Nora... I would love to know when she TOLD them about the suitcase. And WHEN she was questioned in relation to the search of the church

[nursebeeme]

http://www.news10.net/news/liveonline/default.aspx?plckController=Blog&plckScript=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest&plckBlogPage=BlogViewPost&plckPostId=Blog%3a0de94c63-3955-4704-86f0-e08485520dfePost%3ab9245ec9-4fe7-4a1e-99b4-1216bf726a77&sid=sitelife.news10.net

Mike check on now for presser

[Nora Charles]

You are so right, SS!

I think she is so lying about leaving the suitcase in the drive. She clearly (IMO) wanted someone (her mother) inside the home to go outside to the driveway and tell her that the suitcase was no longer there.

And leaving her cell phone at home? Great way for there to be no cell phone pings!

Oh boy, the questions are multiplying like rabbits. This woman as a lot of explaining to do !

[SeriouslySearching]

Also notice she didn't say one word about a garage/rummage sale she was taking the suitcase to for the church. She said she was only using it to take stuff to the church for her classroom. She said it was worth $200 and belonged to her not her grandfather which she made perfectly clear. So where did FW get the idea she was going to sell it for cheap at some rummage sale?! Does she have more than one story floating around?

[Groovytown]

If Connie Lawless was home, why did Miranda (Sandra's sister) be needed to watch Melissa's child? Was this a way to keep her "busy" so she didn't see what was going on outside?

Could Miranda have noticed the suitcase and that is why Williams started talking about the suitcase to the press?

[STEADFAST]

I'm moving my post over here where it belongs.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nursebeeme http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3584840#post3584840)
Anyone who wants to discuss the suitcase should go to the suitcase thread so we can keep all the sleuthing organized. The article has A LOT OF INSIGHT
http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full...ead_story&open (http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open)=&

After Sandra left, her oldest sister Miranda went to Huckaby’s house, too. Huckaby asked Miranda if she could watch her daughter for her while she went down the street to the church. Connie Lawless was home, too.
From nursebeeme's link.

:eek::eek: I hope Sandra's sister was not babysitting for the killer while Sandra's body was being disposed of. I think Melissa's account is beyond hinkey.

[SeriouslySearching]

“It’s where I was, and I told them that’s where I was, so they came just because they had a few questions to ask me about what I know,” she said.

Dispatchers said over the police scanner on Tuesday that officers were “changing detail” at the hospital, where they had evidently been stationed for several hours.

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open

This is an important fact. The Tracy Press did a great job putting this article together. They were not just there to simply question her if they were "changing detail" at the hospital, imo. They were either watching her or guarding her. My money is on surveillance.

[Nora Charles]

Could Miranda have noticed the suitcase and that is why Williams started talking about the suitcase to the press?

Good catch!!!

(Post more! Post more!:clap:)

[wfgodot]

You're right, the Tracy Press has stepped up. Excellent investigative journalism in this case.

[Nora Charles]

If she had internal bleeding before this, why was she planning to lift that suitcase into her vehicle? That makes me think she was well at the time Sandra went missing.

MOO!

[SeriouslySearching]

I thought the same thing when I read that part, too, Steadfast. :(

OK so WHY would she be lying and going through this whole BS story?

[Kat]

Pure speculation here~ I wonder if she accidently hit Sandra while backing up her van? panicked and used her suitcase to hide Sandra? Just right off the top of my head, sorry that's the very first thing that came to mind.

[passionflower]

suitcase and contents worth $200. and it gets stolen at the same time your neighborgirl disappears and you don't report it to cops???

[wfgodot]

One can tell TPD kept their leaks local, with people they trusted. There are some excellent newspapers in the area but the Press had the "in."

[breanna]

I'm just goin' :eek:

When I read this story, chills went up and down my spine. I got the weirdest feeling.

This also explains a LOT to me. And now I'm thinking in a whole different direction than I was.

[gibby207]

Pure speculation here~ I wonder if she accidently hit Sandra while backing up her van? panicked and used her suitcase to hide Sandra? Just right off the top of my head, sorry that's the very first thing that came to mind.

I thought that too, but then remember the blinds and unclear as to manner of death and.. you know...

[Nora Charles]

Pure speculation here~ I wonder if she accidently hit Sandra while backing up her van? panicked and used her suitcase to hide Sandra? Just right off the top of my head, sorry that's the very first thing that came to mind.

That would explain why Sandra was found clothed. She even would have had time time to use the hose to wash down her driveway (I'm assuming there would have been blood), before Sandra's mom called police four hours later. The question is...would anyone have thought that was unusual or did she also water some plants to make it looks less suspicious?

[passionflower]

If she had internal bleeding before this, why was she planning to lift that suitcase into her vehicle? That makes me think she was well at the time Sandra went missing.

MOO!

When was she in the hospital for this bleeding?
Yes carrying a heavy item could tear something apart inside.............
Story about her on now to HLN...............
ready for presser......announcement coming???

[passionflower]

That would explain why Sandra was found clothed. She even would have had time time to use the hose to wash down her driveway (I'm assuming there would have been blood), before Sandra's mom called police four hours later. The question is...would anyone have thought that was unusual or did she also water some plants to make it looks less suspicious?

But didn't LE say they were looking for a weapon?
LE also said ME said Sandra was fully dressed.........
lost car keys? panic?

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think we can believe her story of "internal bleeding".

Oh...here comes Sgt. Tony Sheneman! PRESSER COMING!!

[FishingFunnyFrog]

A few things we know about who Melissa is:

-Cliford Lane & Connie's granddaughter
-Brian's daughter
-She has 2 (i think 2...1 for sure) younger brothers over 18yo
-She has at least 1 daughter about Sandra's age

[passionflower]

AND NO NEIGHBORS SAW THE SUITCASE IN DRIVEWAY and SOMEONE STEALING IT????

[i.b.nora]

If she was specifically going to the church to clean up and or 're-do' using items from the suitcase, why didn't she return home for it the second she got there and should have realized she didn't have the suitcase with her?

"had packed up in the suitcase with everything she needed to re-do the room that day"

[passionflower]

Profiler saying now 'murder or accident'
Abrams just said why do you say HE to Pat Brown

[Groovytown]

But didn't LE say they were looking for a weapon?
LE also said ME said Sandra was fully dressed.........
lost car keys? panic?

Maybe LE was buying more time and there is no weapon?

[FishingFunnyFrog]

If she was specifically going to the church to clean up and or 're-do' using items from the suitcase, why didn't she return home for it the second she got there and should have realized she didn't have the suitcase with her?

"had packed up in the suitcase with everything she needed to re-do the room that day"

The contents of the suitcase (if there were any contents) had to have been found somewhere (shed @ church?). So the police probably know if shes lying about this or not. Presser starting now!

[Groovytown]

The contents of the suitcase (if there were any contents) had to have been found somewhere (shed @ church?). So the police probably know if shes lying about this or not. Presser starting now!

Could this be the reason for the red ribbon that was at one time reported being around the suitcase.

[Elphaba]

Ok, did that reporter just ask LE (at the presser) about if they know about this woman being questioned about a child being drugged and sexually molested?

[wfgodot]

This whole thing's gone so far off the hinky meter, it's registering on the whanky meter.

[FishingFunnyFrog]

Melissa'a last myspace login was on 4/3/09. Her mood was set to "crazy". Her status was "~MEL to the ISSA~ is high on life! lol" It appears LE has not logged into her myspace account since the last login date was before Sandra was found.

[FishingFunnyFrog]

Ok, did that reporter just ask LE (at the presser) about if they know about this woman being questioned about a child being drugged and sexually molested?

Yes that's what he asked! HINKY!

[FishingFunnyFrog]

Could this be the reason for the red ribbon that was at one time reported being around the suitcase.

Good thinking! I guess time will tell...

[passionflower]

If she was specifically going to the church to clean up and or 're-do' using items from the suitcase, why didn't she return home for it the second she got there and should have realized she didn't have the suitcase with her?

"had packed up in the suitcase with everything she needed to re-do the room that day"

Also if she wanted to take or do something at church why not take her child over with her?
Wasn't she planning on being there for awhile?
I can't buy the story of hers............
I am beginning to think Fred was at church and helped her or she helped him.........something seems odd between there stories.....and a note saying Sandra forgives?
Sounds like a church member....Sunday school teacher???

[Nora Charles]

Posting this here, in addition to Press Conference thread, because so much about Huckaby was covered. This was all I could hear, but it's almost everything that was said:

Tony Sheneman – 4/10/09, 3:52 PM
14 days since Sandra went missing
5 days of info needed to be reviewed this morning. Info not ready until noon.
Reward: close to $32,000 – arrest and conviction – Tracy Crime Stoppers
Asking to divert some to family’s expensive – they would appreciate it
Family said instead of memorial – donate
Warrents to be served on locations and vehicles (no details),not aware of any right now
Headed in right direction, expect closer “in the future” – no specifics
Questions:
Did Huckaby tell them about a note she received (I think; hard to hear)? He doesn’t know about, if it existed he couldn’t comment
Don’t know if same suitcase, or even if Eddie Bauer
Does he know about Governor’s reward program? He spoke to office yesterday and has info to pass along to family
Are you willing to lie, decive, or misinform? He is willing to keep everything confidential; he would not misinform us.
He confirmed there was no police report on missing suitcase. He hasn’t spoken to Huckaby personally so doesn’t know more.
Was Huckaby questioned regarding another minor being drugged and/or molested? He can’t confirm w/o specific information.
Doesn’t know if Huckaby has been questioned. He doesn’t know who was, but they’ve talked to lots of people.
No knowledge of another missing child.
Is Huckaby under police watch? If part of investigation, he can’t comment.
He’s not heard of child being drugged and/or molested at this trailer park, but things like that have happened at other areas of city.
Doesn’t know status of church search.
No one asked not to leave town.
Doesn’t know if Huckaby questioned in any previous case.
He will research case of another child drugged months ago.
Haven’t ruled out anyone.
Every morning they have briefing, today’s covered 5 days.
Making progress – won’t comment on how much or compare between days ago.
Vehicles that have been released, does not mean the people are cleared.
Regarding Williams who reported boat (I think; hard to hear) – he won’t comment.
Thursday 1:00 Memorial Service, capacity for 3,000 but working toward means for 8,000. Parking for 500 (yes hundred). Arrive early and plan to walk because it will start on time.
Next presser: 10:00 AM tomorrow, but not sure there will be anything to release.

[STEADFAST]

If she was specifically going to the church to clean up and or 're-do' using items from the suitcase, why didn't she return home for it the second she got there and should have realized she didn't have the suitcase with her?

"had packed up in the suitcase with everything she needed to re-do the room that day"

Really. And why does she only refer to the suitcase being stolen? Wouldn't you refer to a suitcase full of stuff? I mean, if my suitcase was stolen at the airport, the suitcase itself would not be what I'd be worried about.

[SeriouslySearching]

A reporter at the presser just said that Melissa Huckaby said she was questioned in the molestation and drugging of another child! Sgt. Sheneman said he had no knowledge of such a case in the mhp and was unaware of what she could be referring to!! Now THAT is news!

[SouthernMom]

It was supposedly a $200 Eddie Bauer rolling suitcase.

Who uses a 200 dollar suitcase to transport cleaning supplies?

[passionflower]

I bet 'grandma & grandpa' know ALLOT!
It's their church, shed, gloves, their caregiver, their grand daughter???????.........

[passionflower]

It was supposedly a $200 Eddie Bauer rolling suitcase.

Who uses a 200 dollar suitcase to transport cleaning supplies?

or decorations for a room?
and a HUGE suitcase and not small boxes????

[SeriouslySearching]

The contents of the suitcase (if there were any contents) had to have been found somewhere (shed @ church?). So the police probably know if shes lying about this or not. Presser starting now!I don't think there were any contents in that suitcase until Sandra was placed there.

[elepher50]

MS shot - Melissa L:

http://s598.photobucket.com/albums/tt62/elepher50/LaShots/?action=view&current=ML.jpg

[passionflower]

MS shot - Melissa L:

http://s598.photobucket.com/albums/tt62/elepher50/LaShots/?action=view&current=ML.jpg

somewhere over the rainbow?
looks like preacher daughter is in a bar...............hubby????

[nursebeeme]

You're right, the Tracy Press has stepped up. Excellent investigative journalism in this case.
ita!!! they have actually had the most investigative reporting in this case from the start...

[FishingFunnyFrog]

somewhere over the rainbow?
looks like preacher daughter is in a bar...............hubby????

Could be hubby. Her daughter has darker sin and dark hair.

[Nora Charles]

MS shot - Melissa L:

http://s598.photobucket.com/albums/tt62/elepher50/LaShots/?action=view&current=ML.jpg

SPECULATION ALERT: Is that at a bar? A strapless dress in a bar (if that's where it is) doesn't seem consistent with the Baptist Sunday School image. Did she party? Let's just say, if I had little ones I would want to know a little more before sending my kids in there. MOO!! (If that is not a bar, disregard this paragraph.)

I can't picture her hanging out with Williams, but I KNOW someone fathered that child of hers. Where is the dad? Is that her husband? Does she has another significant person in her life? It's not very common that a woman does something like this alone. Not saying she didn't, just uncommon. I want to know more about the man (or men) in her life.

Please don't think I'm looking down on strapless dresses in bars! Just looking at it from a mom's perspective...and being a sleuther! lol

[i.b.nora]

Here is a whole set of Eddie Bauer luggage from Target online for $99.

[elepher50]

somewhere over the rainbow?
looks like preacher daughter is in a bar...............hubby????

Yes, a Sunday School teacher - here are the known connections (possible hubby JH):

[passionflower]

:eek:Could she of planned to drug, kidnap and molest Sandra?
Keep Sandra in shed? crawlspace?
Suitcase not disappearing the time she says???
That part is only her story!
Where was she in the next couple of days?
OMG.......I'm going crazy thinking to much now............:eek:

[nursebeeme]

AND NO NEIGHBORS SAW THE SUITCASE IN DRIVEWAY and SOMEONE STEALING IT????
omg...you made me think of something.... in the article she said she couldn't find her keys...grabbed the spare and goes to the church... her mom calls her and says she found the keys...she tells Connie she left the suitcase and Connie goes out and says it is not there! That makes me think Melissa took it with her in the first place...

[Soulscape]

Any possibility one of you awesome Sleuths can uncover Melissa H's date of birth / place of birth??? We would greatly appreciate your help. If you can get the information, please post to Sandra's thread on the Astro Forum.

Thank you,
Soulscape

[wfgodot]

SPECULATION ALERT: Is that at a bar? A strapless dress in a bar (if that's where it is) doesn't seem consistent with the Baptist Sunday School image. Did she party? Let's just say, if I had little ones I would want to know a little more before sending my kids in there. MOO!! (If that is not a bar, disregard this paragraph.)

I can't picture her hanging out with Williams, but I KNOW someone fathered that child of hers. Where is the dad? Is that her husband? Does she has another significant person in her life? It's not very common that a woman does something like this alone. Not saying she didn't, just uncommon. I want to know more about the man (or men) in her life.

Please don't think I'm looking down on strapless dresses in bars! Just looking at it from a mom's perspective...and being a sleuther! lol

I think the sub-denomination in question is clearly The Hinky Meter Baptist Church at Clover Road.

[Nora Charles]

Could be hubby. Her daughter has darker sin and dark hair.

Did you leave out a "k" or was that intentional? lol

[Nora Charles]

Yes, a Sunday School teacher - here are the known connections (possible hubby JH):

You're good, elepher!:blowkiss:

[nursebeeme]

Ok, did that reporter just ask LE (at the presser) about if they know about this woman being questioned about a child being drugged and sexually molested?
She married a John Huckaby (from past sleuthing) wondering if he is an rso... she is not living in SoCal with him anymore....why? Was it her daughter that could have been molested???

[Nora Charles]

I think the sub-denomination in question is clearly The Hinky Meter Baptist Church at Clover Road.

LOLOL!!!!! That was good!

[FishingFunnyFrog]

Yes, a Sunday School teacher - here are the known connections (possible hubby JH):

Judy & Brian- Parents (legal name Lane Brian?)
Adam (in military) and Caleb (college student)- Brothers
John Huckaby- Husband (ex?)
Connie & Clifford Lane (grandparents)
Julianne (possibly another sister...the only Lawless grandkid w/o a myspace?)

[nursebeeme]

Could be hubby. Her daughter has darker sin and dark hair.
We need her birthday for the astros... can anyone find her birthday? I know her (ex?) husband's name is John. Her maiden is Lawless.

[nursebeeme]

Here is a whole set of Eddie Bauer luggage from Target online for $99.
that big one sure does resemble the shots I have seen of the case

[mommya]

Let's just say she's telling the truth. Could be a crime of opportunity. Someone drives by and sees the suitcase and snags it - and also sees Sandra and takes her?

If they find the contents of the suitcase - the stuff that she says was in there - strewn about somewhere on the side of the road - I'd say it's more likely she's telling the truth.

I'd want to know just what she says she put in the suitcase.


Very suspicious overall.

[passionflower]

I found a Melissa Chantel Lawless Huckaby and a Melissa S. with almost same info........
Tracy CA etc

http://www.usa-people-search.com/Default.aspx?view=PE

[Nora Charles]

Judy & Brian- Parents (legal name Lane Brian?)
Adam (in military) and Caleb (college student)- Brothers
John Huckaby- Husband (ex?)
Connie & Clifford Lane (grandparents)
Julianne (possibly another sister...the only Lawless grandkid w/o a myspace?)

Thank you! Awesome job!!

[Sweetie_PI]

Maybe the internal bleeding is because of an ulcer, caused by stress. If she is involved then that would do it.

All sorts of speculation, but Melissa's family is totally involved in a mysterious way. Perhaps out of deference to the family they are waiting til Sandra is buried before they pick up the suspect.

So weird of her to be in the hospital at the time a tiny visitor to her house is killed.

So here's my nutty speculation, perhaps not so nutty:
Maybe Sandra was kicking to get away and kicked her in the stomach? Maybe this is a Satanic Church and the stuff in her suitcase was preparing for what's it called? an Abrahamic Sacrifice? I kid you not, it has been alleged by surviving female victims of "churches". Maybe Melissa fought with whoever took Sandra? Maybe if the reward money is high enough she'll spill the beans.

The press today was about more reward money as I read it.

Perhaps they are afraid the town of Tracy will descend on the arrest scene and tear the suspect(s) limb from limb. No, roast him a bit then tear his skin off first, then limb from limb. I can only hope. And everyone else who covered up for the child murderer. There's likely to be a LOT of them to go around.

[passionflower]

astro thread needs her birthday......alert!

[SeriouslySearching]

She claims it was packed with things to redo her classroom. To me, it would probably have contained colored paper, photos, bible verses, various church oriented booklets, markers, tape, scissors, stapler, staples, cut outs, stencils, etc.

What could have been THAT large to fill that huge suitcase?! Nope. Not buying her story.

[distracted]

Maybe MH backed up her SUV into Sandra and then decided to cover it up bc she was already going back to court on the 17th (If she is indeed that MH in the court records.)

If only. But wasn't there a leak about the "murder weapon" that is still missing. Many have speculated that is the reason that the blinds were removed from the Lawless home - i.e. the cord.

[passionflower]

All sorts of speculation, but Melissa's family is totally involved in a mysterious way. Perhaps out of deference to the family they are waiting til Sandra is buried before they pick up the suspect.

So weird of her to be in the hospital at the time a tiny visitor to her house is killed.

So here's my nutty speculation, perhaps not so nutty:
Maybe Sandra was kicking to get away and kicked her in the stomach? Maybe this is a Satanic Church and the stuff in her suitcase was preparing for what's it called? an Abrahamic Sacrifice? I kid you not, it has been alleged by surviving female victims of "churches". Maybe Melissa fought with whoever took Sandra? Maybe if the reward money is high enough she'll spill the beans.

The press today was about more reward money as I read it.

Perhaps they are afraid the town of Tracy will descend on the arrest scene and tear the suspect(s) limb from limb. No, roast him a bit then tear his skin off first, then limb from limb. I can only hope. And everyone else who covered up for the child murderer. There's likely to be a LOT of them to go around.

On all the people, I would like to know if anyone noticed any scratches, bruises, injuries to any known POI...............do we have any locals on here at all?
IMO, I don't trust this church, not true division..........their a spin off -cult????

[SeriouslySearching]

Sweetie PI? Where are you getting she was in the hospital at the time "another little girl" was killed?!

[wfgodot]

The possible elements revealed today make the great Bob Hoskins/Helen Mirren film "The Long Good Friday" look like a tea party.

[Nora Charles]

Yeah, the suitcase would be several times as heavy as the supplies, in my opinion. I have one of those whopper suitcases and I can barely lift it when it's empty. lol I would have thrown the supplies into a tote bag, box, or even a Rubbermaid container.

She claims it was packed with things to redo her classroom. To me, it would probably have contained colored paper, photos, bible verses, various church oriented booklets, markers, tape, scissors, stapler, staples, cut outs, stencils, etc.

What could have been THAT large to fill that huge suitcase?! Nope. Not buying her story.

[Mysterylover]

or from a child kicking her in the gut???

This is way out there.........BUT is she married?

Could she and Fred be lovers?

That being a connection to him being there and knowing Sandra??? In my mind only..........

passionflower: That's my theory also....MH's story is a pile of BS in my opinion!

Which was it, going to the church to work or going to the hospital for internal bleeding?

Is there a possibility 'someone' planned to use Sandra for a porn movie or a cult sacrifice ???

[FishingFunnyFrog]

If only. But wasn't there a leak about the "murder weapon" that is still missing. Many have speculated that is the reason that the blinds were removed from the Lawless home - i.e. the cord.

Is it public that the blinds came from the lawless home? i don't remember reading exactly where the blinds were taken from...just tha blinds had been taken.

[Sweetie_PI]

What if Sandra was in the suitcase Melissa put on the sidewalk, i.e. already dead. Tried to pick it up too heavy, strained herself.... went to the church, didn't use her cellphone for a reason and called her "personal morgue service" from some other location to dispose of it, then went bleeding to the hospital.

[SeriouslySearching]

No way I would believe she was hooked up with FW. Not after seeing her photo.

[scandi]

A reporter at the presser just said that Melissa Huckaby said she was questioned in the molestation and drugging of another child! Sgt. Sheneman said he had no knowledge of such a case in the mhp and was unaware of what she could be referring to!! Now THAT is news!


You bet your sweet bippy it is!

I have to give kudos to that reporter. He was on a mission and wish I knew who he workds for. He kept going back to the same questions about Melissa. And probably with good reason as he has researched her and found the case involving the molestation and drugging of another child.

WOW It is becoming quite complicated, but at least we know these people are all tied together. I wonder what really happened.

I wonder if there were things in that suitcase to photograph children - a light, camera, special blanket, props, etc. No wonder she didn't call it into police. And calling the manager of the park, well why worry about that as she knew he wouldn't find it.

If she is involved she had to have an accomplice, as I don't think she could heft that full bag into the pond, do you think? Unless she did and that is when she tore something inside. Hmmmm

[passionflower]

I wonder what she had Sandra's sister and her daughter doing when she was looking
for keys, doing the suitcase thing and in such a panic thing...............they noticed
nothing unusual???

[FishingFunnyFrog]

On all the people, I would like to know if anyone noticed any scratches, bruises, injuries to any known POI...............do we have any locals on here at all?
IMO, I don't trust this church, not true division..........their a spin off -cult????

This church does seem a little strange especially since it's so small. But the rest of the Lawless family including Melissa's parents attend a very "normal" (imo) Baptist church.

[scandi]

What if Sandra was in the suitcase Melissa put on the sidewalk, i.e. already dead. Tried to pick it up too heavy, strained herself.... went to the church, didn't use her cellphone for a reason and called her "personal morgue service" from some other location to dispose of it, then went bleeding to the hospital.


I just remembered, It said she went to the hospital the day Sandra's body was discovered. That is 10 days after death. xox

[Nora Charles]

No way I would believe she was hooked up with FW. Not after seeing her photo.

ITA, while he's much older than her, it was the pictures that settled it for me.

[nursebeeme]

I don't buy the "internal bleeding"... she wouldn't even say what it was the result of to the reporter. I would think perhaps somthing psyche related. At this point all we really know is that there was a police detail at the hospital

[SeriouslySearching]

What if Sandra was in the suitcase Melissa put on the sidewalk, i.e. already dead. Tried to pick it up too heavy, strained herself.... went to the church, didn't use her cellphone for a reason and called her "personal morgue service" from some other location to dispose of it, then went bleeding to the hospital.First, we would have to believe her story of "bleeding internally". Second, she didn't take her cell phone or her keys supposedly. Third, if she killed her at home and put her in the suitcase...she claimed Connie was there which could be verified if Sandra's sister did go over to her house to watch her child...how would she have done this without her grandmother noticing Sandra being murdered?

[Nora Charles]

Is it public that the blinds came from the lawless home? i don't remember reading exactly where the blinds were taken from...just tha blinds had been taken.

Not that I remember. I was thinking we didn't know which home.

[passionflower]

What if Sandra was in the suitcase Melissa put on the sidewalk, i.e. already dead. Tried to pick it up too heavy, strained herself.... went to the church, didn't use her cellphone for a reason and called her "personal morgue service" from some other location to dispose of it, then went bleeding to the hospital.

or what if Sandra was alive and transferred to the church shed for later fun???..........Fred personal service........

[scandi]

The possible elements revealed today make the great Bob Hoskins/Helen Mirren film "The Long Good Friday" look like a tea party.

What a great reading post you 'old duckie. LOL I mean DEAR 'ole duckie! Ta

[nursebeeme]

interesting too that she goes to the church without her cell phone!!!!! wonder how much time passed before she called Connie from the time she left the home????? ((wonder if she watches CSI too))

[raindrops300]

A car can be considered a weapon.

Also, about the suitcase - She says she taking the supplies to decorate the room, but she then (the way she tells it) doesn't realize she 'forgot' it until she gets INSIDE the church, where her grandmother conveniently calls her - has to be inside the church cause she didn't have a cell phone - Didn't she notice when she was getting out of her SUV to go inside??

If you were taking supplies to decorate or refresh a classroom, wouldn't you get it out first thing when you were going in and take it in with you? And when you realized you forgot it, go back to get it because you couldn't do what you went there to do without it? The church is very close to the MHP, if IRC.

None of her story makes sense.

[nursebeeme]

I also wonder where Connie found the keys and phone (if they were somewhere easy to find)... and I also wonder why she was in such a hurry that she didn't use the land line to call her cell phone and find it... she said she looked for 15 minutes!

[nursebeeme]

amen raindrops... none of it makes any freaking sense

[Nora Charles]

I also wonder where Connie found the keys and phone (if they were somewhere easy to find)... and I also wonder why she was in such a hurry that she didn't use the land line to call her cell phone and find it... she said she looked for 15 minutes!

I had the same thought. With four cell phones in the house we are always doing that!

[LaLaw2000]

The front lawns at the MHP are small. The driveways are not long. How in heck would she NOT notice leaving a big friggin suitcase in the drive? I would really like to know if there was anyone at all in that MHP that had seen that suitcase in the drive - EVER!

I do believe that when that big suitcase went out the door of the Lawless MH, Sandra was already inside it. JMO.

[raindrops300]

interesting too that she goes to the church without her cell phone!!!!! wonder how much time passed before she called Connie from the time she left the home????? ((wonder if she watches CSI too))


According to the article her grandmother called her at the church to tell her they found her keys and phone...

[JDB]

Ok Call me Confused. How ole is MH

[LaLaw2000]

interesting too that she goes to the church without her cell phone!!!!! wonder how much time passed before she called Connie from the time she left the home????? ((wonder if she watches CSI too))

So, since she left her cell phone at the MH, did Connie call her on a landline phone at the church? This whole story is screwy, IMO!

[Kat]

Another thought about the suitcase.

When Sandra was found, after they took her to the ME, very soon after the opening of that suitcase they got SW for the church.

During interviews Sheneman has stated to the effect of : There was probable cause for us to seek a SW for the church from the suitcase...

A thought crossed my mind, I can't speak for everyone, but I, myself, have travelled quite a bit, there are times when I pull out my suitcase that I realize there is some paper or what-not still in there from the previous trip slid down in a pocket or under a liner portion.

I think that there was something in that suitcase that was related to the church. MH is now related to the church as a Sunday school teacher and she claims she packed that suitcase for Sunday School classroom (I think she's full of crap-ola on that one).

I'm not sure what to think but wanted to throw that out there.

[Nora Charles]

A car can be considered a weapon.

Also, about the suitcase - She says she taking the supplies to decorate the room, but she then (the way she tells it) doesn't realize she 'forgot' it until she gets INSIDE the church, where her grandmother conveniently calls her - has to be inside the church cause she didn't have a cell phone - Didn't she notice when she was getting out of her SUV to go inside??

If you were taking supplies to decorate or refresh a classroom, wouldn't you get it out first thing when you were going in and take it in with you? And when you realized you forgot it, go back to get it because you couldn't do what you went there to do without it? The church is very close to the MHP, if IRC.

None of her story makes sense.

Excellent catch about her needing to be inside the church to receive the call. And why would she answer the phone? I would assume with a church that small there is no one there full time so they just use a machine or voicemail. If she already lost keys and phone, had a neighbor watching her child, lost her suitcase, why would she have stopped to answer a phone call? Did she have to go past the phone to get to the classroom? It just seems weird. And the first thing on my mind after getting a spare key and heading outside would be that I STILL had to load that stinkin' suitcase!

[LaLaw2000]

Where was the pastor during all of this?

[distracted]

Is it public that the blinds came from the lawless home? i don't remember reading exactly where the blinds were taken from...just that blinds had been taken.

I believe they were taken from the Lawless home the same night they removed the computers, etc., or perhaps the next morning. I will do a search to find out for sure.

ETA: I found this article that referenced the blinds. I stand corrected. It doesn't say where they were taken from. I think I just assumed it was from the Lawless home because it's the only home the article speaks about specifically.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19121818/detail.html#

[SeriouslySearching]

You bet your sweet bippy it is!

I have to give kudos to that reporter. He was on a mission and wish I knew who he workds for. He kept going back to the same questions about Melissa. And probably with good reason as he has researched her and found the case involving the molestation and drugging of another child.

WOW It is becoming quite complicated, but at least we know these people are all tied together. I wonder what really happened.

I wonder if there were things in that suitcase to photograph children - a light, camera, special blanket, props, etc. No wonder she didn't call it into police. And calling the manager of the park, well why worry about that as she knew he wouldn't find it.

If she is involved she had to have an accomplice, as I don't think she could heft that full bag into the pond, do you think? Unless she did and that is when she tore something inside. HmmmmI am betting he works for the Tracy Press. LOL

Here are a couple of questions: She doesn't realize until she gets to the church and after her grandmother called about the phone that the suitcase is missing? She obviously HAD to be inside the church already to answer the phone so would already be well aware the suitcase wasn't there.

When she got to the church, Huckaby’s grandmother called and said she found her keys and cell phone. Huckaby said that’s when she realized she had left the $200 suitcase outside. When her family went out to get it, they said it was gone.


She didn't say she called the asst. mgr about the missing suitcase. She just says she "talked" to him and some school kids. This would indicate she came directly back home from the church since they were just getting out of school...yet Sandra and her sisters were already home from school for awhile at that point. When did she return from the church? She didn't have anything to "redo" her room with when she got there.

“So I talked to the assistant manager at the mobile home park and asked him to keep an eye out for this suitcase, someone took it,” Huckaby said. “I also told some older kids to look out for it. I didn’t think much then because, you know, kids were getting out of school and I thought that maybe someone, maybe someone walking by just took it.”

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open (Bolded by me)

[raindrops300]

I've been working a lot the past couple of days, and have a lot of catching up to do. Just hearing of MH today... I am so far behind...

[Kat]

Anyone else confused about the timeline as to when Sandra was said to have visited?

We know Sandra went out to play around 4 PM. We have video of Sandra skipping past a camera and she is headed in the direction of the Lawless home.

Sandra passes her own home # 63, heading away from the entrance towards the back of the park which would take her towards the Lawless home of # 57.

Does anyone remember the rough outline of Sandra's activities as reported by her parents? In what order do they have Sandra's visits to other homes, I am not going to trust the MH or LL and CL description at this time.

ETA: I'll have to go back and look but wasn't it said that Sandra had gone to one friends home and that friend wasn't home, was that before or after her trip towards the Lawless home?

[Sweetie_PI]

Sweetie PI? Where are you getting she was in the hospital at the time "another little girl" was killed?!

I meant to say MH was in the hospital when the little girl was found killed. I edited with extreme carelessness. MH was interviewed before Sandra's body was found, as the Lawless family was ground zero for Sandra's search and MH and CL being among the last to admit to seeing her alive.

I place the time of this particular MH interview with the police as April 6-7th when Sandra was found, MH was in the hospital, the ICU for several days. Internal bleeding left unattended gets straight to the ICU when a person finally does decide to go to the hospital.

[bp531]

Wow, been busy all day and I just got caught up. This is all just crazy. Not even sure what to think or post right now.

Who spends 15 min to look for keys to run around the corner if they have an extra set?

Do phone records show a call from Connie to the church, if so do times match the story?

We need more info on the drugging / molesting thing.

How old is this woman?

IMO we dont need to worry about what was in the suitcase for the classroom, because this is all BS.

And does anybody in the Lawless family use the last name Anthony as an alias?

[goofeegyrl]

Is it public that the blinds came from the lawless home? i don't remember reading exactly where the blinds were taken from...just tha blinds had been taken.

For some reason I remember the blinds coming from one of the male S-last named neighbors, or FW, not the L home. Can anyone verify this?

[SeriouslySearching]

I meant to say MH was in the hospital when the little girl was found killed. I edited with extreme carelessness. MH was interviewed before Sandra's body was found, as the Lawless family was ground zero for Sandra's search and MH and CL being among the last to admit to seeing her alive.

I place the time of this particular MH interview with the police as April 6-7th when Sandra was found, MH was in the hospital, the ICU for several days. Internal bleeding left unattended gets straight to the ICU when a person finally does decide to go to the hospital.Ah, OK! Gotcha! Internal bleeding could also be an ulcer.

[distracted]

For some reason I remember the blinds coming from one of the male S-last named neighbors, or FW, not the L home. Can anyone verify this?


This is the only article I found that referenced the blinds. It does not say where the blinds came from.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19121818/detail.html#

[SeriouslySearching]

For some reason I remember the blinds coming from one of the male S-last named neighbors, or FW, not the L home. Can anyone verify this?I don't know, but I think you are correct. I don't recall photos of them hauling things from the Lawless home, but we do have a photo of the shade. Wait...if that was taken as evidence...why wasn't it bagged and tagged?! Something isn't right there.

[txsvicki]

Wow, what a story of how things happened. Either this woman is very forgetful due to being ill or the trailer house was a huge mess to not be able to find keys and cell phone. The record showing up for Melinda, which she denies, could possibly be stolen identity. Who in this whole story does have convictions and might have access to a very scatter brained and forgetful woman's purse to get her ID and things to assume her identity.

[Sweetie_PI]

First, we would have to believe her story ..how would she have done this without her mom noticing Sandra being murdered?

There are those kinds of lawless persons - who have honed the art of looking away at molestation - pretending it didn't happen, or if it did, just cleaning it up and moving on. Happens with generational pedophilia all the time. It's normal for them. Like spilling milk.

Mothers of her generation have been known cover up their male relative's crimes on this sort of stuff all the time. This generation too.

PS
The Church and the Shed are STILL crime scenes. Please Dear Lord tell me the Tracy PD is close and not still casting about... in which case, I'd tip them to check out the coin collecting Internet front with the name Cliff Lawless and lots of 2006 accusations about pedophiles.

[Nora Charles]

I don't know, but I think you are correct. I don't recall photos of them hauling things from the Lawless home, but we do have a photo of the shade. Wait...if that was taken as evidence...why wasn't it bagged and tagged?! Something isn't right there.

That is suspicious. I remember a pic of them sticking out of a car trunk. Seems weird to take them and just "toss them in the trunk"!!! I don't recall hearing which home they came from.

[Mysterylover]

I found this a couple of days ago, wonder if this was her?

http://www.localcrimenews.com/lookup.php?jid=3301990

BLOCKED: PRIVACY PROTECTION* Map It
812 W Clover Rd Spc 57
Tracy , CA 95376-1712 Verified Address

Reported: 11/03/2008 by Crime Reporter No. 7195
Source: Tracy PD

F PC459 Burglary
F PC666 Petty Theft With Prior

i.b.nora, Good find....IF it's her.

I found the following info on scared mky's. very interesting.
Quote;
A reporter said that an investigative source provided information that Huckaby has been questioned and
investigated before in a case involving another child being drugged and molested.

Please, correct me if I am wrong on what I read.

[Nora Charles]

And does anybody in the Lawless family use the last name Anthony as an alias?

NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I can't take that! LOL

[Nora Charles]

i.b.nora, Good find....IF it's her.

I found the following info on scared M. very interesting.
Quote;
A reporter said that an investigative source provided information that Huckaby has been questioned and
investigated before in a case involving another child being drugged and molested.

Please, correct me if I am wrong on what I read.

SPECULATION ALERT: This makes me suspect even more that a man is involved. Maybe she gets the kids for the man...maybe he beat her up causing the internal bleeding...maybe her grandfather is in on it somehow...IDK. Something just makes me think a man is involved also.

[Izman]

Have been lurking for awhile-great stuff sleuthers!
Huckabee is quite a nut case, nothing she states is plausible. Meanwhile grandpa the clergyman he is, should be out there preaching about the truth and he knows the sounds of his flock!? All this drama should be wrapped up by tomorrow evening--Amen,,

[Columbo]

or from a child kicking her in the gut???

This is way out there.........BUT is she married?
Could she and Fred be lovers? That being a connection to him being there and knowing Sandra??? In my mind only..........

If Melissa is involved and Sandra did kick her in the gut... I hope Sandra rearranged her intestines completely!

[nursebeeme]

I've been working a lot the past couple of days, and have a lot of catching up to do. Just hearing of MH today... I am so far behind...
no worries rain....the article came out MINUTES before the presser!

[love.child]

She loses her keys, her cell phone and her $200 suitcase. A profiler has said that the killer is disorganized. Just sayin'

[SeriouslySearching]

Wow, what a story of how things happened. Either this woman is very forgetful due to being ill or the trailer house was a huge mess to not be able to find keys and cell phone. The record showing up for Melinda, which she denies, could possibly be stolen identity. Who in this whole story does have convictions and might have access to a very scatter brained and forgetful woman's purse to get her ID and things to assume her identity.What?! :confused:

[SeriouslySearching]

Ok Call me Confused. How ole is MHShe is 28 years old.

[txsvicki]

What?! :confused:

Could someone have stolen her identity and police didn't catch it?

[LaLaw2000]

i.b.nora, Good find....IF it's her.

I found the following info on scared mky's. very interesting.
Quote;
A reporter said that an investigative source provided information that Huckaby has been questioned and
investigated before in a case involving another child being drugged and molested.

Please, correct me if I am wrong on what I read.

RE: Investigated in another child being drugged and molested.

We will certainly hear more about that after Sandra's tox test results comes back if it is true. If Sandra and this other child were drugged with the same substance, MH better find a lawyer. It doesn't even have to be the same substance - just drugs. JMO

[nursebeeme]

Anyone else confused about the timeline as to when Sandra was said to have visited?

We know Sandra went out to play around 4 PM. We have video of Sandra skipping past a camera and she is headed in the direction of the Lawless home.

Sandra passes her own home # 63, heading away from the entrance towards the back of the park which would take her towards the Lawless home of # 57.

Does anyone remember the rough outline of Sandra's activities as reported by her parents? In what order do they have Sandra's visits to other homes, I am not going to trust the MH or LL and CL description at this time.

ETA: I'll have to go back and look but wasn't it said that Sandra had gone to one friends home and that friend wasn't home, was that before or after her trip towards the Lawless home?
((nurse raises hand! I can answer this one)) I have been here since the get go and found the article where grandpa spoke about the afterschool activities... (and I pasted it in the media thread) but grandpa picked her up from school. She came home and all of her sibs, gma and gpa were there. She asked to go out to play... She went to see if one friend was home...they weren't so she went to another house to play... (could this have been Huckaby?) she colored, watched part of the movie flubber, swang on the swings, told this other little girl she wanted to run away, then goes back to her house. She is inside less than five minutes. She asks to go with sibs to a movie that night...is told no...no money... she goes back out to play...

What I think is that when she left she headed toward the clubhouse first...because in the video we see her emerging from the clubhouse area where the three car spaces are...she goes past her house headed to the lawless house..

This also jives with all the confusing statements by the family...when reporters asked if she ever made it to the second house to play they said, they couldn't confirm that...LE even said they couldn't confirm it???

hope that helped and sorry if too long!

[bp531]

So did she have a church key on her extra set? LE please check this out. I know my extra set of keys is just CAR keys, not house keys or office keys. Does anyone else have a FULL SET of extra keys?

[SeriouslySearching]

interesting too that she goes to the church without her cell phone!!!!! wonder how much time passed before she called Connie from the time she left the home????? ((wonder if she watches CSI too))She didn't call Connie...Connie called HER!

[Mysterylover]

Also notice she didn't say one word about a garage/rummage sale she was taking the suitcase to for the church.

She said she was only using it to take stuff to the church for her classroom.

She said it was worth $200 and belonged to her, not her grandfather which she made perfectly clear.

So where did FW get the idea she was going to sell it cheap at some rummage sale?!
Does she have more than one story floating around?....

SS, Seems they all have a different story about the suitcase..

[FishingFunnyFrog]

I also wonder where Connie found the keys and phone (if they were somewhere easy to find)... and I also wonder why she was in such a hurry that she didn't use the land line to call her cell phone and find it... she said she looked for 15 minutes!

Possibly different area code on the cell/land line? Her cell is probably southern CA so she wouldn't be able to call from a land line in Tracy or it would be long distance. Still a weird story though!

[SeriouslySearching]

Could someone have stolen her identity and police didn't catch it?LOL No. I doubt this very seriously. She was arrested several times. Still in the process of tracking down her records. (They fingerprint 'em when they book 'em.)

[nursebeeme]

i.b.nora, Good find....IF it's her.

I found the following info on scared mky's. very interesting.
Quote;
A reporter said that an investigative source provided information that Huckaby has been questioned and
investigated before in a case involving another child being drugged and molested.

Please, correct me if I am wrong on what I read.
you are not wrong... and it is here too... (won't say anything more for on certain other sites)

[Livvy]

Wow this is all pretty crazy!! And she even admits to being at the location where sweet little Sandra was found.

[bp531]

wow this is all pretty crazy!! And she even admits to being at the location where sweet little sandra was found.

what!!!!!!!

[wfgodot]

This may already be posted above, but.....
TRACY CHURCH SEARCHED AGAIN
http://www.kcbs.com/Tracy-Church-Searched-Again/4182636

[nursebeeme]

could you expound on that Livvy? You mean the irrigation ponds or the MHP? What astounds me is that she lives IN the MHP.. we had been sleuthing her since her grandpa came up...

[nursebeeme]

this story is JUST PLAIN CRAZY!

[Invisible]

AND NO NEIGHBORS SAW THE SUITCASE IN DRIVEWAY and SOMEONE STEALING IT????

Yeah, but if she backed over Sandra, no one saw that either. Maybe I am misunderstanding what others are thinking happened.

ETA... nevermind, I am confused.

[Livvy]

what!!!!!!!

I will try to find the link... but i'm sure i read it somewhere!

[SeriouslySearching]

you are not wrong... and it is here too... (won't say anything more for on certain other sites)We had the information posted probably before they did. :P

[raindrops300]

Where is MH's home in relation to Sandra's? Is it on the same street in the MHP? Sandra lived in #63, if IRC.

[bp531]

I will try to find the link... but i'm sure i read it somewhere!

Maybe she went swimming there, and she stinks as bad as her story.

[Livvy]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?Church-Teacher-Says-Suitcase-Stolen-The-=1&blockID=263590&feedID=2674

Here's the link that says MH was at pond/irrigation thingy.

[SeriouslySearching]

Yeah, but if she backed over Sandra, no one saw that either. Maybe I am misunderstanding what others are thinking happened.I am thinking she had Sandra meet her at the church to "help" her redo her room supposedly. In the meantime, she got the suitcase, a sitter (Sandra's sister GRRR!), and drove to the church.

[Livvy]

I re-read that article and she has spent time on the farm near pond.

[SeriouslySearching]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?Church-Teacher-Says-Suitcase-Stolen-The-=1&blockID=263590&feedID=2674

Here's the link that says MH was at pond/irrigation thingy.Wow!! Now she is placing herself at the dump site?! WTH?!

Huckaby also says she has spent some time on the farm near the irrigation ditch where Sandra Cantu's body was discovered in suitcase that closely resembles the one she reports missing.

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?Church-Teacher-Says-Suitcase-Stolen-The-=1&blockID=263590&feedID=2674

They might as well go ahead and cuff n stuff this one!!

[bp531]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?Church-Teacher-Says-Suitcase-Stolen-The-=1&blockID=263590&feedID=2674

Here's the link that says MH was at pond/irrigation thingy.

WOW!!! this is just unreal. Thanks for the link.

[Nora Charles]

Possibly different area code on the cell/land line? Her cell is probably southern CA so she wouldn't be able to call from a land line in Tracy or it would be long distance. Still a weird story though!

So don't answer the cell, and the land line doesn't get charged.

[SeriouslySearching]

I am just gobsmacked. (picking my jaw up off the floor for about the tenth time in the past two hours now)

[bp531]

Why did she just now decide to devulge all this info??? I am amazed by all this.

[Kat]

Yeah, but if she backed over Sandra, no one saw that either. Maybe I am misunderstanding what others are thinking happened.

I just threw that out there right after hearing about Melissa this afternoon. It was the first thought that came to my mind. I don't know what happened to Sandra. It could be a multitude of things that happened but this Melissa is very high on the "don't pass the smell test" IMHO.

[LaLaw2000]

So did she have a church key on her extra set? LE please check this out. I know my extra set of keys is just CAR keys, not house keys or office keys. Does anyone else have a FULL SET of extra keys?


GREAT question, bp531! This MH does not seem really smart. Let's hope that if she is involved, LE will know it. Just so much is pointing toward she and Williams. JMO. (I have an extra house key on my extra set of vehicle keys) I also find it hard to believe that Connie does not know anything but was home. I still wonder where the Pastor spent his afternoon.

We do know that Williams was shown in a video unlocking the church for LE, so HE has a set.

[carlysmom]

Huckaby also says she has spent some time on the farm near the irrigation ditch where Sandra Cantu's body was discovered in suitcase that closely resembles the one she reports missing

:eek: :eek:
Wow.

[FishingFunnyFrog]

this story is JUST PLAIN CRAZY!

Could LE have been trying to put the focus on CL a couple days ago hoping that MH would feel guilty of her grandpa being wrongly accused and confess? She definitely made a point of telling the press that the suitcase does not belong to her grandpa- trying to clear his name out of guilt?

[Kat]

Oh man that needs to be snipped! Thanks livvy!

A Sunday school teacher who lives at the mobile home park where 8-year-old Sandra Cantu went missing from claims someone stole her black, waterproof rolling suitcase the same day the Tracy girl disappeared...

...Huckaby also says she has spent some time on the farm near the irrigation ditch where Sandra Cantu's body was discovered in suitcase that closely resembles the one she reports missing.

THUD

[CHICANA]

this explains away a lot of persons we thought were suspicious. from the way LE searched the church maybe Melissa H did take that suitcase with her but the stuff in it was not for her classroom????

Sandra had come over earlier and asked to play with her 5-year-old daughter, Huckaby said. But Huckaby didn’t want her daughter to play because she had to pick up her toys. So Sandra left for another friend’s house. Eighteen seconds of surveillance footage that shows Sandra playfully skipping by her family’s home show her on her way back to Huckaby’s home after leaving that other friend’s house, Huckaby said.

After Sandra left, her oldest sister Miranda went to Huckaby’s house, too. Huckaby asked Miranda if she could watch her daughter for her while she went down the street to the church. Connie Lawless was home, too.

Huckaby then set the packed suitcase on the driveway by her dark purple Kia SUV — the same one FBI agents and Tracy police detectives towed and searched Tuesday night. But she forgot her cell phone and keys inside the house, so she went back in for about 15 minutes to find them. She couldn’t, so she picked up the spare key and left.

http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_news_lead_story&open

This would mean she was the last one to see Sandra alive, had access to the suitcase, the church, and had no alibi for the exact time that Sandra went missing. Wouldn't it?!


Why would she need Miranda to watch her daughter if Connie was home ?
I'm behind here, was Sandra already missing at this time ?

[Pegatha]

So did she have a church key on her extra set? LE please check this out. I know my extra set of keys is just CAR keys, not house keys or office keys. Does anyone else have a FULL SET of extra keys?

I just had to comment on this because to me this is huge. How did she get in the church to get the phone call? So either someone (accessory) was there at the church to meet her and let her in, or she never really got that phone call because she couldn't get in.

Her whole story sounds completely off. NONE of it makes sense.

[Nora Charles]

GREAT question, bp531! This MH does not seem really smart. Let's hope that if she is involved, LE will know it. Just so much is pointing toward she and Williams. JMO. (I have an extra house key on my extra set of vehicle keys) I also find it hard to believe that Connie does not know anything but was home. I still wonder where the Pastor spent his afternoon.

We do know that Williams was shown in a video unlocking the church for LE, so HE has a set.

Yeah, I'm dying to hear where Pastor Lawless was during this time.

[wfgodot]

Why did she just now decide to devulge all this info??? I am amazed by all this.

She may already have been interviewed by police and provided them with a "reason" in case she had been seen near there, since she knew that, if she had been seen, she would have to account for her presence in the area.

[arielilane]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?Church-Teacher-Says-Suitcase-Stolen-The-=1&blockID=263590&feedID=2674

As I read this article what goes through my mind is that MH is trying to cover her tracks....if my dna is there...it is because of....

good grief

[arielilane]

oh, and by the way she is the last person to have seen Sandra alive?

[msfittz]

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?Church-Teacher-Says-Suitcase-Stolen-The-=1&blockID=263590&feedID=2674

Here's the link that says MH was at pond/irrigation thingy.


Whoa!!!!!! Somebody's got some 'splainin to do...

[Kat]

She is connected to the suitcase (possibly, LE has not said it was her suitcase)
She is connected to the church
She is connected to where Sandra's body was found (by her admission)

What the "H"?

[wfgodot]

TRACY PASTOR SPEAKS OUT ABOUT CANTU GIRL
nothing much here, but new and "all in the family"
http://www.kcba.com/Global/story.asp?S=10166530

[Invisible]

Yeah, the suitcase would be several times as heavy as the supplies, in my opinion. I have one of those whopper suitcases and I can barely lift it when it's empty. lol I would have thrown the supplies into a tote bag, box, or even a Rubbermaid container.

I had one of those huge suitcases, my husband called it "the refrigerator", and after handling it myself on a trip, I got rid of it immediately on my return.

[LaLaw2000]

Wow!! Now she is placing herself at the dump site?! WTH?!

Huckaby also says she has spent some time on the farm near the irrigation ditch where Sandra Cantu's body was discovered in suitcase that closely resembles the one she reports missing.

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?Church-Teacher-Says-Suitcase-Stolen-The-=1&blockID=263590&feedID=2674

They might as well go ahead and cuff n stuff this one!!

LOL, SS!!! Good one!

I want to add Williams to that cuff n stuff!
Even if he is only an accessory after the fact, then he could still be charged with murder just as MH will be if there is sufficient evidence.

[lonetraveler]

Pure speculation here~ I wonder if she accidently hit Sandra while backing up her van? panicked and used her suitcase to hide Sandra? Just right off the top of my head, sorry that's the very first thing that came to mind.
---
That theory is very plausible.

[DollyPardonMe]

We did some sleuthing on Melissa when her car was first taken and couldn't find an address locally....but now seeing that she is living with her grandparents and from SoCal, it makes sense. Her "other" name is Melissa Lawless. We have, burried in the threads somewhere, her Dad's myspace and several other family myspace pages.

I checked the Superior Court records in Orange County CA and there is a MH that has had 2 traffic violations, SO if it is the same person she doesn't drive very well...

[arielilane]

I am leaning towards what a few other posters have stated; that she possibly was hit by MH's vehicle. From there MH started a cover-up due to her past history/record.

[elepher50]

Wow!! Now she is placing herself at the dump site?! WTH?!

Huckaby also says she has spent some time on the farm near the irrigation ditch where Sandra Cantu's body was discovered in suitcase that closely resembles the one she reports missing.

http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?Church-Teacher-Says-Suitcase-Stolen-The-=1&blockID=263590&feedID=2674

They might as well go ahead and cuff n stuff this one!!

SS: This is serious but I am sorry the cuff n stuff did me in.

[SeriouslySearching]

Why would she need Miranda to watch her daughter if Connie was home ?
I'm behind here, was Sandra already missing at this time ?The timing would be almost exactly when Sandra went missing. She stated the suitcase went missing when kids were coming home from school, but it was after Miranda was asked to watch her daughter. This fits with the timeline of when Sandra was seen walking towards their house and was last seen on the video about 4:00pm.

[Kat]

I think you're right arielilnane, LE hasn't said anything about who was the last person to see Sandra.

With what information we have as of now, it's safe to say that until we get more info that MH was the last person to see or speak to Sandra.

Then we couple that with all the other coincidences, given what we all know about cases like these, it sure looks like MH could be culpable.

[SeriouslySearching]

Why did she just now decide to devulge all this info??? I am amazed by all this.Grandpa was getting all the press?! :bang:

[distracted]

Why did she just now decide to devulge all this info??? I am amazed by all this.

Smoke and mirrors. If she places herself at the scene previously, then it doesn't look suspicious if she should show up there again.

[Kat]

If it was an accident, and if she did accidently hit Sandra or somehow cause her death...Melissa is an idiot.

Children walk behind SUV's all the time and get backed over all the time. Rarely are criminal charges ever brought. I own an SUV, when I back out of my driveway I have to roll down the window and lean my head out of the window because we have so many children in this neighborhood.

I'm not saying that's what happened, because I don't have enough info right now to draw any conclusions other than Melissa just has too many coincidences for comfort.

[nursebeeme]

The timing would be almost exactly when Sandra went missing. She stated the suitcase went missing when kids were coming home from school, but it was after Miranda was asked to watch her daughter. This fits with the timeline of when Sandra was seen walking towards their house and was last seen on the video about 4:00pm.
this is where she screwed up...the kids were already home from school even the older ones...per Sandra's Grandpa....

[SeriouslySearching]

Where did she hide her until she got a babysitter, hunted 15 minutes for her keys, and finally went to the church? Did she cram her into her suitcase right there on the driveway? I can't see that happening with all the people wandering around, driving by, etc. since they live right on the busiest road into the park and school kids were out. Makes no logical sense she accidently ran over her to me.

[nursebeeme]

I don't buy an accident? Why not call for an ambulance? At this point I am not giving her the benefit of my doubt. And they are at the church again right now, btw (someone already posted the link...right?)

[elepher50]

Fellow sleuthers: The ASTRO thread - Sandra Cantu needs some help right now figuring out the birthdate of the Mz Melissa Lawless (Huckaby) - they are having one heck of a time - can anybody lend a hand?

[SeriouslySearching]

this is where she screwed up...the kids were already home from school even the older ones...per Sandra's Grandpa....She screwed up twice about school and the kids. She also said after she knew the suitcase was missing at the church...she came back and mentioned it to the kids coming in from school!

[wfgodot]

I don't buy an accident? Why not call for an ambulance? At this point I am not giving her the benefit of my doubt. And they are at the church again right now, btw (someone already posted the link...right?)

Yes, the link's back a page (or so) and I agree, no accident.

[butterfly1978]

Something is not right here... Isn't MH set to be sentenced April 17th. She is practicly handing herself over to cops. What if she is covering for someone else cause she already knows she is going to jail, like maybe daddy, or granddaddy or boyfriend.

[SeriouslySearching]

Fellow sleuthers: The ASRTO thread - Sandra Cantu needs some help right now figuring out the birthdate of the Mz Melissa Lawless (Huckaby) - they are having one heck of a time - can anybody lend a hand?I tried to find it without any luck. I haven't been able to access her probation or criminal records in Cali yet as their site is down.

[Kat]

You all make good points. It is hard to conceive that she would have backed over her, I just threw that out there because I knew that everyone would be able to pick it a part. So we know that given the amount of time afterwards, it's plausible but unlikely.

I'm having a hard time with the theory that MH was part of a sex ring. But that's just me.

[distracted]

Where did she hide her until she got a babysitter, hunted 15 minutes for her keys, and finally went to the church? Did she cram her into her suitcase right there on the driveway? I can't see that happening with all the people wandering around, driving by, etc. since they live right on the busiest road into the park and school kids were out. Makes no logical sense she accidently ran over her to me.

I think she (Sandra) went to the church with FW and Melissa followed them there. That would explain how they got inside the church. We know he has a set of keys. She might possibly have access to a set, also - I'm not ruling that out.

I also do not think that she was hit by her car. The examination of her car when it was impounded and searched would have shown that to have occurred.

[lonetraveler]

I'm going to be Psychic for a moment and predict that an arrest is quickly coming. Pieces of the puzzle are falling into place at a fast clip.

[passionflower]

Wow!! Now she is placing herself at the dump site?! WTH?!

Huckaby also says she has spent some time on the farm near the irrigation ditch where Sandra Cantu's body was discovered in suitcase that closely resembles the one she reports missing.
http://www.fox40.com/pages/landing_sandra_cantu/?Church-Teacher-Says-Suitcase-Stolen-The-=1&blockID=263590&feedID=2674

They might as well go ahead and cuff n stuff this one!!

bold by me......and when was MH there? So MH KNOWS the AREA well.......

[Kat]

What would be Melissa's motive for abducting Sandra? Anyone? I don't have a theory, I'm open to all suggestions.

[arielilane]

If it was an accident, and if she did accidently hit Sandra or somehow cause her death...Melissa is an idiot.

Children walk behind SUV's all the time and get backed over all the time. Rarely are criminal charges ever brought. I own an SUV, when I back out of my driveway I have to roll down the window and lean my head out of the window because we have so many children in this neighborhood.

I'm not saying that's what happened, because I don't have enough info right now to draw any conclusions other than Melissa just has too many coincidences for comfort.
Exactly. So much is pointing right towards her and it's making sense.

[nursebeeme]

some of the comments here http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_most_popular&open=&

are saying ***speculation warning****that Sinclair is her boyfriend

[SeriouslySearching]

TRACY PASTOR SPEAKS OUT ABOUT CANTU GIRL
nothing much here, but new and "all in the family"
http://www.kcba.com/Global/story.asp?S=10166530So Lane and Connie Lawless are now in Salinas, CA according to the article. How far is that from Tracy?

SALINAS, Calif.- Pastor Lane Lawless and his wife Connie, two of the hundreds of people questioned by Tracy police in the case of the missing 8-year-old girl found dead Monday, attended church services in Salinas Friday.

Lawless, whose brother-in-law is the pastor of the Alisal Baptist Church in Salinas, sat among friends and family in a pew inside the church. In one of his first TV interviews, Lawless said it's been a rough few weeks.

http://www.kcba.com/Global/story.asp?S=10166530

[Livvy]

TRACY PASTOR SPEAKS OUT ABOUT CANTU GIRL
nothing much here, but new and "all in the family"
http://www.kcba.com/Global/story.asp?S=10166530

Thanx for the link! I really hope that this family is not getting dragged through the mud for no reason but being at the wrong place, wrong time. They sound like they are cooperating fully.

[Kat]

Well now nursie, that some very interesting speculation going on there huh?

[Recovering-Lurker]

some of the comments here http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_most_popular&open=&

are saying ***speculation warning****that Sinclair is her boyfriend

:eek: Well, now wouldn't that just be the cherry on top of the crazy sundae? The whole mhp is full of strangeness imo.

I thought that after Caylee and Haleigh, there wouldn't be another kookoo case, but here we are.

[elepher50]

some of the comments here http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_most_popular&open=&

are saying ***speculation warning****that Sinclair is her boyfriend

Aw now Nurse, .......... did you vote for Sinclair on the POI poll? I wouldn't have thought Sinclair but the other one for sure.

[SeriouslySearching]

some of the comments here http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_most_popular&open=&

are saying ***speculation warning****that Sinclair is her boyfriendYes. That is pure speculation. Not sure I am buying that one.

[arielilane]

The timing would be almost exactly when Sandra went missing. She stated the suitcase went missing when kids were coming home from school, but it was after Miranda was asked to watch her daughter. This fits with the timeline of when Sandra was seen walking towards their house and was last seen on the video about 4:00pm.
and like other poster(s) mentioned why have miranda babysit when Connie was already there.

[MissGinger]

So Lane and Connie Lawless are now in Salinas, CA according to the article. How far is that from Tracy?

SALINAS, Calif.- Pastor Lane Lawless and his wife Connie, two of the hundreds of people questioned by Tracy police in the case of the missing 8-year-old girl found dead Monday, attended church services in Salinas Friday.

Lawless, whose brother-in-law is the pastor of the Alisal Baptist Church in Salinas, sat among friends and family in a pew inside the church. In one of his first TV interviews, Lawless said it's been a rough few weeks.

http://www.kcba.com/Global/story.asp?S=10166530

Salinas is about a two hour drive south

[DollyPardonMe]

Fellow sleuthers: The ASTRO thread - Sandra Cantu needs some help right now figuring out the birthdate of the Mz Melissa Lawless (Huckaby) - they are having one heck of a time - can anybody lend a hand?

Ive been searching the California Superior Court website. I did find the traffic violations and I just found the Divorce proceedings between her and John. BUT they don't list the birthdates..I'm doing all I can to find them for you...:blowkiss:

[nursebeeme]

Yes. That is pure speculation. Not sure I am buying that one.
yeah...just like I posted it....speculation... if it were true it would close a whole lot of holes for me though

btw, salinas is about an hour away and where Lawless went to preachermanschool

[nursebeeme]

I meant two hours....

[scandi]

This is brand new, interesting info and I hope someone can move it to the proper thread. My c & p onlky works sporatically.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19149311/detail.html

The police are searching the shed at the church late this afternoon. Article is from 6:19 tonight.

[passionflower]

IMO, this was planned! And the suitcase story just came out by FW and MH because now they know that LE can trace the suitcase back to them, church etc.
MH was accused of drugging and molestation of a child.........she would be a SO, if proved!
Women can be as goofy as men SO.
She could of been in on this with a man...........why make a big deal out of NOT finding keys?
Why not report a $200 suitcase stolen......LIE proved here on WS the whole set is $99.
Why pack up a huge suitcase (heavy) with Sunday school stuff.........LIE
This is getting so sickning..........
Grandparents probably know everything.
Nice planning to go to hospital same day Sandra is found..........what happened to MH?
another LIE? IMOO

[elepher50]

Ive been searching the California Superior Court website. I did find the traffic violations and I just found the Divorce proceedings between her and John. BUT they don't list the birthdates..I'm doing all I can to find them for you...:blowkiss:

They are divorced - that is news!

[SeriouslySearching]

and like other poster(s) mentioned why have miranda babysit when Connie was already there.To keep Miranda busy and keep her from noticing that Sandra was missing? She could have told Connie it was so Miranda could earn movie money or something perhaps?

I want to know what Miranda has said about all of this to LE! What is her story? Her timeline will become crucial and what she witnessed inside the home about Melissa's actions that day.

[Kat]

This is brand new, interesting info and I hope someone can move it to the proper thread. My c & p onlky works sporatically.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19149311/detail.html

That's a great shot of the shed at the church. It's a lot bigger than I had orginally thought.

[Tonia]

How did she get inside the church if she left her keys at home unless someone let her in?
hmm... MH is 28 for those of you asked and we know FW has a key to that church. So i guess he was just hanging around to let her in.. and this woman is claiming she found a note that said "Cantu, Suitcase, Water. The word 'suitcase' was misspelled, and there were two street names including the word "Whitewall" give me a break.

[distracted]

What would be Melissa's motive for abducting Sandra? Anyone? I don't have a theory, I'm open to all suggestions.

Molestation. Perhaps she was drugged and died by accident. (Haven't we heard that before? sigh) Child pornography. Money. These are just a couple of reasons.

I think she was working with the person who drives the Silverado that was at the pond three days before Sandra was found.

[ilovemew]

A few things we know about who Melissa is:

-Cliford Lane & Connie's granddaughter
-Brian's daughter
-She has 2 (i think 2...1 for sure) younger brothers over 18yo
-She has at least 1 daughter about Sandra's age

-Emily is Melissa's cousin. Brian is her uncle per myspace.
-This is Emily's myspace, it is private so I'm not giving anything out but her mood and comment in the network box is interesting. Yesterday it was "hoping my family will be okay. http://www.myspace.com/emi_supe

[elepher50]

This is brand new, interesting info and I hope someone can move it to the proper thread. My c & p onlky works sporatically.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19149311/detail.html

The police are searching the shed at the church late this afternoon. Article is from 6:19 tonight.

Have put a link on the ASTRO thread for our good friends there.

[passionflower]

some of the comments here http://www.tracypress.com/pages/full_story?article-Woman%20in%20mobile%20home%20park%20reported%20mis sing%20suitcase%20=&page_label=home&id=2298054-Woman+in+mobile+home+park+reported+missing+suitcas e&widget=push&instance=home_most_popular&open=&

are saying ***speculation warning****that Sinclair is her boyfriend

OMG please say this is not true!:eek::furious:
was he also there that day???
If he is involved then there has to be a RING of SO & wierdos in this!............
Is Sinclair a member of the church also???
Did HE do 'internal bleeding to her?"
kinky hinky............sicko.....IMO
this is getting worse

[Kat]

How did she get inside the church if she left her keys at home unless someone let her in?
hmm... MH is 28 for those of you asked and we know FW has a key to that church. So i guess he was just hanging around to let her in.. and this woman is claiming she found a note that said "Cantu, Suitcase, Water. The word 'suitcase' was misspelled, and there were two street names including the word "Whitewall" give me a break.

Holy Smokes Tonia I had not heard the details about the note she claims was left. Do you have a link so I can read? TIA.

[nursebeeme]

This is brand new, interesting info and I hope someone can move it to the proper thread. My c & p onlky works sporatically.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19149311/detail.html

The police are searching the shed at the church late this afternoon. Article is from 6:19 tonight.
here is what Melissa said the note left where the suitcase was said:

According to Huckaby, the note said, "Cantu, Suitcase, Water. The word 'suitcase' was misspelled, and there were two street names including the word 'Whitehall.'"

[DollyPardonMe]

They are divorced - that is news!

I haven't found a birthdate yet, but she went to High School from Sept 1 1995 to June 30, 1999..Will that help?

[elepher50]

To keep Miranda busy and keep her from noticing that Sandra was missing? She could have told Connie it was so Miranda could earn movie money or something perhaps?

I want to know what Miranda has said about all of this to LE! What is her story? Her timeline will become crucial and what she witnessed inside the home about Melissa's actions that day.

Miranda is 11 years old and probably is quite capable of detail and maybe even timings to you think? And Miranda is NOT Sandra's oldest sister as reported by Mz Melissa Lawless.

[melley]

The whole babysitting thing made me wonder too, since her her mom was home. About the article linked on the luggage thread, where it states she spruces up her classroom every few months. Think about it, its Easter season. If she really had new decorations in her suitcase she would have been more specific. The Sunday schools I am aware of usually have things leading up to the Easter story (and yes Baptist people observe Easter).

To me it just seemed contrived to say she spruces up her classroom every few months, as opposed to saying, I was getting the classroom ready for Easter. The biggest or second biggest religious holiday and usually the busiest church day in a lot of churches.

--just my two cents.

[nursebeeme]

They are divorced - that is news!
I actually guessed divorced or separated because one year ago she moved in with her grandparents

[scandi]

That's a great shot of the shed at the church. It's a lot bigger than I had orginally thought.


Hi, I always post a snippet when I give a link by my dumb old mouse is sick! lol

I thought it interesting too as it talks avbout the note and what Melissa says was said in it.

Also it is said Melissa swallowed razor blades which is why she was in the hospital. Probably a big fat rumor so I'll post RUMOR.

[SeriouslySearching]

Followed up on WHAT a lot sooner?! What is she talking about now? The note? Oh yeah...the NOTE! What about the NOTE?! So now she is putting herself in the situation that she has some kind of "confession" of where Sandra was placed all that time?! OMG!

Huckaby also said that she found a note the day after Cantu's disappearance.

According to Huckaby, the note said, "Cantu, Suitcase, Water. The word 'suitcase' was misspelled, and there were two street names including the word 'Whitehall.'"

~snip~

"I wish they could have found her a lot sooner, if they would have followed up on this a lot sooner," Huckaby said.

http://www.kcra.com/news/19149311/detail.html

[passionflower]

They are divorced - that is news!

what about birthdates on their child's birth cert?
or on marriage cert?
i would look, but don't know where to go..........