Melissa's Ex speaks on GMA 04.17.09

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Melissa Ex speaking now on GMA

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Johnny Huckaby states his reaction to Melissa arrest: Shock!

Together over a year

Carefree person, a person I can't see doing something like this

Did suffer from depression, self image...

Never violent

Does not see this as being an intentional situation

After divorce Melissa went to school, got a job, had a decent life

Feels she was a good mother to his child

The Melissa he saw after the arrest does not look like the Melissa he know...looks like someone else in her body

Their daughter is in a safe place and doing very well. Does not have any knowledge of this situation.

Denies ever abusing Melissa...denies substance abuse.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7356264&page=1

[roller26]

for those who can't watch http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7356264&page=1

[Mouser]

He also says that he is seeking custody of their daughter. He's remarried and has kid(s?) with his present wife.

[Annette73]

Johnny Huckaby states his reaction to Melissa arrest: Shock!

Together over a year

Carefree person, a person I can't see doing something like this

Did suffer from depression, self image...

Never violent

Does not see this as being an intentional situation

After divorce Melissa went to school, got a job, had a decent life

Feels she was a good mother to his child

The Melissa he saw after the arrest does not look like the Melissa he know...looks like someone else in her body

Their daughter is in a safe place and doing very well. Does not have any knowledge of this situation.

Denies ever abusing Melissa...denies substance abuse.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7356264&page=1

Bolded by me.
What? What about the rape??? How could that not be intentional?

[fran]

I saw this segment of GMA. IMHO, you most likely canNOT believe anything Melissa says.

I believe she's a drama queen who makes circumstances to make herself look like a victim. :mad:

JMHO
fran

[QNA]

Bolded by me.
What? What about the rape??? How could that not be intentional?

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.

[Lola]

Is it possible someone else had been abusing, Sandra?

[QNA]

Is it possible someone else had been abusing, Sandra?

Absolutely.

[SeriouslySearching]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.
Is it possible someone else had been abusing, Sandra?
Absolutely.Not if they have evidence to the contrary. Saliva, bodily fluids, etc. would have been taken to determine DNA of the perp. They would also be able to tell if the rape happened before or after her death and they would charge her accordingly.

Sandra being abused prior to the day of the murder isn't an issue in this case unless it was by the perp. What occurred between seeing Sandra walking towards the perp's house and the TOD is the focus of the charges against Melissa.

[MCDRAW]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.


I'm pretty sure that they have evidence of a rape or they wouldn't have charged her with it. If it was after she was dead it's not called rape. She would be charged with abuse of a corpse or necrophillia. JMO

[SeriouslySearching]

This isn't the reaction I expected from her ex and I am glad he took the high road for their daughter's sake. Someday, she will be privy to all the information and know her father didn't trash her mother in spite of everything.

[BeanE]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.

Can you cite some medical cases where unintentional rape occurred after death please?

[fran]

Is it possible someone else had been abusing, Sandra?

I'm willing to bet that IF there is in fact evidence of 'abuse,' of Sandra, the defense will be claiming it was NOT their defendent. They'll TRY to bring out that SOMEONE ELSE abused Sandra BEFORE she was even with the defendent, most likely over a period of time. Either that or that the finding of 'abuse' is WRONG.

JMHO
fran

[LaLaw2000]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.

Well, that does not make any difference at all to me as to whether or not Sandra was alive when the rape occurred. I hope she wasn't and was spared this indignity. The ME would have been able to determine whether the trauma took place before or after the death because the injuries would appear different. As the blood flow stops after death, even bruising would have a different appearance after death.

To me, a rape is a rape and even more an aberration if done after death. MH's actions have shown that she was aware that what she had done was wrong, hence the coverup.

ETA: I realize that it is not termed a rape if done after death, but the actions were the same.

[doubletrouble]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.

except in that case that wouldnt be defined as a rape then...but mutilation of a corpse or something along those lines....am i wrong....moo

[Amster]

MH seems not to take the end of relationships well. IF she was dating the Sinclair guy, and they were no longer dating, maybe she figured he'd be blamed for Sandra.

[raindrops300]

The words "intentional situation" is how the reporter phrased the question as in - do you see this as an intentional situation? he answered no etc....... But the words "intentional situation" are odd wording by the reporter. So I think the reporter kind of put words in his mouth.
I am surprised by how well spoken the ex is. He is not what I was expecting for some reason. I think based on what I had read regarding their divorce, but I should have considered the source. Also, appearances can be deceiving as we all know.

[Bobbisangel]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.


I hope it was after death so that little Sandra didn't have to go through that.
It's still really sick if it was done after death though.

[warbuckle]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.

Or raped weeks earlier by someone else and then then killed by accident. I think its unlikely, but possible

[SeriouslySearching]

Or raped weeks earlier by someone else and then then killed by accident. I think its unlikely, but possibleThey would have evidence the rape and molestation occurred near the TOD and during the commission of the kidnapping for her to be charged accordingly. This could not have happened weeks before.

The evidence would be on the body, the clothing, the bed (or wherever the crime took place) and there would be no doubt.

[SuziQ]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.

However the poster you responded to was addressing the unintentional part of the statement. Rape, abuse of a corpse ,or whatever with a foreign object would not be an unintentional

[believe09]

Trying desperately not to be judgemental of the defendant, but if there is any accuracy whasoever to the charges, I am having a hard time with the concept of any of it being unintentional. Let's say for the sake of argument, the defendant was restraining Sandra in some way and she died-then you call 911 and get the child help. Let's say that she abused the corpse to make it appear that the child had been raped; see number one-why didn't she get the child help if she had unintentionally caused her harm?

[Reznor]

Maybe what he meant was she didn't mean to murder her. Her death was not intentional.

[KoldKase]

From the charges brought by the state, I don't think there is any question in their minds that the rape with a foreign object was intentional.

If it was done posthumously, then that seems to me that it would have been motive, as well, because it would imply Sandra was murdered so her body could be raped.

But the charges seem clear to me. Dr. Wecht said on LKLive the other night that he suspects the object might have even been found in the body, or the suitcase, because he said it's difficult to determine rape in a body that's decomposed over 10 days in the water.

Maybe the suitcase, which Huckaby said was water resistant, protected the body, along with the lower water temp? Just guessing, of course. I really hate to even learn what they found at autopsy. It's going to be heartbreaking all over again.

[dr dona]

don't mean to be gross- but, if the rape occurs premortem than the tearing of tissues results in heavy bleeding because the victim's heart is still beating. With the use of a foreign object I would expect tearing, bruising and much bleeding. Little girls are very delicate in this area and the damage should be very obvious. If the rape occured postmortem there should be very little if any bleeding and minimal if any bruising since the victim's heart has stopped. No heart beat- no perfusion of tissues and organs- no blood. you or I could probably look at the autopsy photos and tell.

[KoldKase]

don't mean to be gross- but, if the rape occurs premortem than the tearing of tissues results in heavy bleeding because the victim's heart is still beating. With the use of a foreign object I would expect tearing, bruising and much bleeding. Little girls are very delicate in this area and the damage should be very obvious. If the rape occured postmortem there should be very little if any bleeding and minimal if any bruising since the victim's heart has stopped. No heart beat- no perfusion of tissues and organs- no blood. you or I could probably look at the autopsy photos and tell.

The issue would be if the body was still in any condition to determine these elements of rape, though. Since the state brought the charges, I would think that they would be certain, so maybe it was. Otherwise, why bring the death penalty into play, which makes a much more onerous case, from expenses for the state, to the jury pool?

[ella's mom]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.

I was thinking that the rape occured as a cover up to make it look more like a man was responsible.

[ella's mom]

don't mean to be gross- but, if the rape occurs premortem than the tearing of tissues results in heavy bleeding because the victim's heart is still beating. With the use of a foreign object I would expect tearing, bruising and much bleeding. Little girls are very delicate in this area and the damage should be very obvious. If the rape occured postmortem there should be very little if any bleeding and minimal if any bruising since the victim's heart has stopped. No heart beat- no perfusion of tissues and organs- no blood. you or I could probably look at the autopsy photos and tell.

I might be wrong, but if it was post mortem, wouldn't the charges be more along the lines of abuse of a dead body and not rape? I am sure there are more technical terms than that, but hopefully you get what I am saying?

[Columbo]

I wonder where her ex got the idea that she was doing so well? (before the murder--going to school, gainfully employed, etc. )

[Ribbon]

So now I am confused. La times reported that exhusband is not bio Dad?
Snipped From Story ~ Court records show that when Huckaby filed for divorce from her husband, John H, in Orange County in January 2005, the couple had no children. The identity of Madison's father was not immediately clear.

link
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-huckaby13-2009apr13,0,6408687.story

[yosande]

They would have evidence the rape and molestation occurred near the TOD and during the commission of the kidnapping for her to be charged accordingly. This could not have happened weeks before.

The evidence would be on the body, the clothing, the bed (or wherever the crime took place) and there would be no doubt.

Well then just hang her now, and dispense with a trial.
I'm not defending her, but am offended with the lack of any degree of an innocent until proven guilty attitude here. moo
I can only rarely read about Sandra because it makes me so nauseous, but we still need a jury trial or a confession and guilty plea, before making a statement like "there would be no doubt."
This is a high profile sensationalized case, and even DAs and cops can blossom things out for a bigger brownie button at the end, which is why I question if she did this alone, if they are still investigating, or since they have their culprit, they pat themselves on the back, and go home without the full truth.
I can't believe that a woman would do this act, and I can't believe she would be the only one involved. imo there is at least one man involved. It boggles my mind to believe otherwise so
I'm not gonna believe it until they prove it.........
moo

[SeriouslySearching]

Well then just hang her now, and dispense with a trial.
I'm not defending her, but am offended with the lack of any degree of an innocent until proven guilty attitude here. moo
I can only rarely read about Sandra because it makes me so nauseous, but we still need a jury trial or a confession and guilty plea, before making a statement like "there would be no doubt."
This is a high profile sensationalized case, and even DAs and cops can blossom things out for a bigger brownie button at the end, which is why I question if she did this alone, if they are still investigating, or since they have their culprit, they pat themselves on the back, and go home without the full truth.
I can't believe that a woman would do this act, and I can't believe she would be the only one involved. imo there is at least one man involved. It boggles my mind to believe otherwise so
I'm not gonna believe it until they prove it.........
mooYou are taking out of context what I said. I didn't say there could be no doubt as to her guilt. I said...there could be no doubt as to when the rape by instrumentation or by foreign object occurred and I will stand by that statement.

If Sandra were raped weeks before instead of within an hour of her death, there would be no blood, no immediate trauma to the body, and this would not show up on her clothing or the bedding (or wherever this occurred).

Also the same goes for her being raped after she was murdered. There would be obvious signs it happened postmortem.

Originally Posted by SeriouslySearching
They would have evidence the rape and molestation occurred near the TOD and during the commission of the kidnapping for her to be charged accordingly. This could not have happened weeks before.

The evidence would be on the body, the clothing, the bed (or wherever the crime took place) and there would be no doubt.

If people want to keep their gender bias blinders on...so be it. I trust LE has proof she acted alone and is responsible for the molestation, rape, and murder of Sandra Cantu as charged. Saying a male MUST be involved is ridiculous to me. Women can be as evil as any man, imo.

[yosande]

Johnny Huckaby states his reaction to Melissa arrest: Shock!

Together over a year

Carefree person, a person I can't see doing something like this

Did suffer from depression, self image...

Never violent

Does not see this as being an intentional situation

After divorce Melissa went to school, got a job, had a decent life

Feels she was a good mother to his child

The Melissa he saw after the arrest does not look like the Melissa he know...looks like someone else in her body

Their daughter is in a safe place and doing very well. Does not have any knowledge of this situation.

Denies ever abusing Melissa...denies substance abuse.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=7356264&page=1

Heard the word "exclusive" and my hinky meter shot up, then the pics came, so how much did he get paid?
I just want to know how much was the licensing fee for the pics and the interview.
moo

[snapdragon]

Because nothing has been proven yet. There may not have even been a rape while SC was alive. i.e. the violation may have occurred after death.

OMG. Just thought of something. Perhaps that is why they want the body exhumed for a second autopsy. Is it still a capital offense if the rape occurred after death, even by mere minutes????? Jeezzz. If not, it should be. What a sicko.

IMO the evidence of rape must have been excruciatingly obvious. GOD, i hope not. I hope she was drugged or dead before this.. Poor little soul..

Now I am crying again....

[yosande]

You are taking out of context what I said. I didn't say there could be no doubt as to her guilt. I said...there could be no doubt as to when the rape by instrumentation or by foreign object occurred and I will stand by that statement.

If Sandra were raped weeks before instead of within an hour of her death, there would be no blood, no immediate trauma to the body, and this would not show up on her clothing or the bedding (or wherever this occurred).

Also the same goes for her being raped after she was murdered. There would be obvious signs it happened postmortem.



If people want to keep their gender bias blinders on...so be it. I trust LE has proof she acted alone and is responsible for the molestation, rape, and murder of Sandra Cantu as charged. Saying a male MUST be involved is ridiculous to me. Women can be as evil as any man, imo.

Of course. I expect nothing less.
I'm sure happy that I have a right to an opinion without being ridiculed. lol

[SeriouslySearching]

If he is taking money for Melissa's photos etc. I don't have a problem with that! Better the money goes to the care of her 5 year old child than to her defense team, imo.

[SeriouslySearching]

Of course. I expect nothing less.Great! Then it is understood what I was saying in my post about the rape and the discussion of it being from weeks before, immediately before, or after death plus why I felt there would be no doubt in the findings by LE or the ME.

[yosande]

What is understood to me is that if anyone disagrees with anything you post they are rediculed.

[yosande]

If he is taking money for Melissa's photos etc. I don't have a problem with that! Better the money goes to the care of her 5 year old child than to her defense team, imo.

Well I do have a problem with it. It is opportunistic, and profiting from the suffering of a child, and it's sickening to me. moo

I'm expecting a time out anytime now.

[TripleA]

I took his "unintentional" comment to mean that she was not in her right mind, meaning he believes that something in her has snapped. Hence the additional comment about her oicture not even looking like the MH he knew, but a different person.

[i.b.nora]

So now I am confused. La times reported that exhusband is not bio Dad?
Snipped From Story ~ Court records show that when Huckaby filed for divorce from her husband, John H, in Orange County in January 2005, the couple had no children. The identity of Madison's father was not immediately clear.

link
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-huckaby13-2009apr13,0,6408687.story
I share your confusion especially since other news media have reported on those same court records and have not said that.
In addition, the LA Times article says the arraignment is next Tuesday, which is not true, it is next Friday.

[SeriouslySearching]

What is understood to me is that if anyone disagrees with anything you post they are rediculed.I wasn't ridiculing anyone. I wanted to make certain my post wasn't taken out of context is all. Your post appeared to make it sound like I was saying there was no doubt to her guilt which was not what I had said at all. :confused:

I have no problem with people disagreeing with me as it happens many times every day! I have every right to defend my position, however. I don't feel I do this by being mean or condescending tho.

[yosande]

You are taking out of context what I said. I didn't say there could be no doubt as to her guilt. I said...there could be no doubt as to when the rape by instrumentation or by foreign object occurred and I will stand by that statement.

If Sandra were raped weeks before instead of within an hour of her death, there would be no blood, no immediate trauma to the body, and this would not show up on her clothing or the bedding (or wherever this occurred).

Also the same goes for her being raped after she was murdered. There would be obvious signs it happened postmortem.



If people want to keep their gender bias blinders on...so be it. I trust LE has proof she acted alone and is responsible for the molestation, rape, and murder of Sandra Cantu as charged. Saying a male MUST be involved is ridiculous to me. Women can be as evil as any man, imo.


This is redicule.

[lawlady84]

The thing we have to remember is that these are just charges. The SA looked at the reports compiled by LE, the ME, and concluded they believe there is enough evidence to charge MH with these crimes and these aggravating circumstances. But the SA is always going to charge as much as they think they can - the defendant can motion to the judge that there is not enough evidence to sustain those charges. After the prosecution presents its case, the defense can motion to dismiss charges if the SA did not make its case sufficiently.

So while we certainly do not have to go by the "innocent until proven guilty" here, just because MH was charged with these circumstances does not mean the SA is 100% sure it happened. God forbid, but MH can argue that Sandra was abused earlier that day - and something snapped in MHs head and thats why MH killed her. Not saying that's believable or true. But it could explain evidence of trauma. Or maybe MH walked in on someone assaulting Sandra and freaked out? I don't believe that, but nothing that I have read thus far proves that its impossible.

And a press conference by a police officer saying "We believe MH acted alone" is not conclusive proof. JMO

[txsvicki]

I expected more reports of false accusations against Melissa's ex. But, he did say she had a self image problem. Wonder how that manifested. Saying that someone is very carefree and depressed sort of contradicts. Also, he did seem to dispute at least a little bit that he was ever a drunk or abused Melissa. Saying that someone looks like a totally different person is odd. I'd think that being accused of killing a child would make a person look different. I'll bet that they are going for insanity.

[SeriouslySearching]

This is redicule.I have said that many times before in this case so it wasn't directed at any one person. Sorry...didn't mean for you to take it personally.

[Columbo]

So now I am confused. La times reported that exhusband is not bio Dad?
Snipped From Story ~ Court records show that when Huckaby filed for divorce from her husband, John H, in Orange County in January 2005, the couple had no children. The identity of M's father was not immediately clear.

link
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-huckaby13-2009apr13,0,6408687.story

That is confusing. M must have been born in 2004 at the latest, if she is 5 years old now.

I'm editing this to say that I just found an article that says Melissa was divorced in 2007 from the father of her daughter. I assume this is Huckaby.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_12159830?source=most_viewed

[nursebeeme]

Did anyone else notice HOW MUCH her ex husband looks like her FATHER?

Per that LA article... I think it may have been misreporting. I don't have any links handy, but there have been several court docs found and reported on that indicate JH as the father, etc.

The interview on GMA was very "guarded" In my opinion.

[passionflower]

This is awful but could the rape of killed Sandra and that is the "weapon" LE was looking for? What ever was jammed into her? Or was 'it' still in Sandra with MH fingerprints on it???

oops wrong thread, sorry.........
about X did he say WHY they only lasted a year?
Did she cheat?
I heard someone say on NG? that MH 'cut herself' allot.........
did he say that?

[Charlie09]

That is confusing. M must have been born in 2004 at the latest, if she is 5 years old now.

I'm editing this to say that I just found an article that says Melissa was divorced in 2007 from the father of her daughter. I assume this is Huckaby.
http://www.contracostatimes.com/ci_12159830?source=most_viewed

https://ocapps.occourts.org/FamLawWebv2/DisplayCase.do?caseNbr=05D000448&src=case_src_dtl

if you look it up it says disso without children. But I don't see how they were married long enough for her to get alimony based on age, and modifications are usually about child support.

Looks like the filing was done in January 05, divorce granted in September 05, and modifications to support (my thinking is child support) in 07.

[goofeegyrl]

She was born in Sept 03, four months after they got married. I remember these case facts specifically, 'cause my oldest daughter is 5 days younger than Sandra, and my youngest daughter was born in Sept 03, just like MH's daughter.

[gogrannypop]

I'm pretty sure that they have evidence of a rape or they wouldn't have charged her with it. If it was after she was dead it's not called rape. She would be charged with abuse of a corpse or necrophillia. JMO

It's sad to say, but I'm wondering if the murder weapon that they couldn't find was found at autopsy. KWIM? This is very disturbing. IMO

[paperwing]

I was thinking that the rape occured as a cover up to make it look more like a man was responsible.

Wow, that's a very interesting thought - but the fact that a foreign object was used doesn't really help. Then again, the use of a foreign object is not unheard of when the perpetrator is male.

Interesting point.

[paperwing]

I expected more reports of false accusations against Melissa's ex. But, he did say she had a self image problem. Wonder how that manifested. Saying that someone is very carefree and depressed sort of contradicts. Also, he did seem to dispute at least a little bit that he was ever a drunk or abused Melissa. Saying that someone looks like a totally different person is odd. I'd think that being accused of killing a child would make a person look different. I'll bet that they are going for insanity.

Re: her having a self image problem - my guess is that many (if not most) women, at some point or other, have a self image problem. I'm not sure why he'd mention that or find it significant (?).

Re: the contradictions of his views - I can't help but wonder how often he saw MH or how close they were/weren't. I'll go back and look. : )

Re: insanity - you may be right about their going for that, but it seems a huge stretch (in my view). Being depressed or bipolar, etc., does not equal insanity.

Then again, I find it very weird that she was offered (and accepted) treatment with a court-ordered mental health program for... petty theft. That seems pretty unusual. But it may be no more ominous than this program was offered because she was on prescription medication when arrested and this was the only way to expunge the theft charge.

I'm just hypothesizing, obviously. But there sure are a lot of unanswered questions, aren't there?

[paperwing]

Married: august 2003
MH 5 mos pregnant when married - so conceived abt March 03.
Full term (not preemie) pregnancy - 9 mos - birth would be abt Dec 2003, making daughter abt 5.5 years old today.

Separated: august 2004

Divorced: september 2005

JH says he hasn't spoken to MH for over 3 years (using 3.5 yrs as an estimate, that would mean he hasn't spoken to her since about Oct 2005 or shortly after the divorce, which is 3.5 years from today.

So he hasn't spoken to MH:
through the end of 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009 (through April).

That's a long time - especially when offering an opinion about someone's behavior. Doesn't seem as though this ex had any recent knowledge about MH's mood, life or anything else (unless he's had more contact with her than he describes).

He didn't have any serious concerns during the last 3+ years, at least nothing significant enough to make him think his daughter's care was compromised... you'd think a parent would seek to modify the custody order if that were the case.

If he hasn't spoken to MH how did he have contact with his daughter since the divorce? Did he have/exercise visitation rights? Were the accusations MH brought against him ever dismissed or verified (either way)? I'd feel a whole lot better if they'd been dismissed.

I feel so sorry for this little girl...

[SeriouslySearching]

I am only guessing here, but I bet if they got Johnny on the stand...he would have many things to tell about Melissa. They wouldn't be sugarcoated and given the right direction in questioning...may be very damning to her.

[daisy.faithfull]

Re: her having a self image problem - my guess is that many (if not most) women, at some point or other, have a self image problem. I'm not sure why he'd mention that or find it significant (?).


I agree with you, if by self image problems you me that most woman have wished at some point in our life that we could change this or that about our bodies to varying degrees.

I think that in the clinical sense this could mean the person is fixated or obsessed with the perceived physical flaw, and it has a direct negative effect on various areas of their life.

Perhaps he is alluding to a personality disorder. If I understand those correctly, they severely impair a person's ability to perceive the world around them an their place in it. To me that implies difficulty with self image.

I wonder if he and Melissa received counseling before deciding on divorce, I would love to know if a counselor gave him an insights in to MH's character. If they mentioned that MH had a personality disorder, that would be a grim diagnosis for a spouse to hear, as they are difficult to treat.

I'd also like to know what her pregnancy like. Also if there were any odd changes in her behavior after the birth of her daughter. I wonder if issues of this sort had anything to do with the divorce. If she was abused as a child by a female perp, I would think that she would experience conflicted feelings about becoming a mother herself, especially the mother of a little girl.

[daisy.faithfull]

From the article on JH's GMA appearance (http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=7356264&page=1):
"His daughter is in a safe place and doing well, Huckaby said.

"She does not have any knowledge of the situation that's going on, which is best," he said."

I wonder if that means that MH's daughter has not been questioned about anything related to the case. I wouldn't want them to do anything that would traumatize her, but I always thought they had child development/psychologists to do this in ways that would not upset children.

[daisy.faithfull]

"In 2002, Melissa Huckaby took out a restraining order against a former boyfriend. In a handwritten note obtained by ABC News, Huckaby claimed he stalked her, threatened to kill her and harm her grandfather."
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Story?id=7356264&page=1


Does it seem odd to anyone that an x-boyfriend would need a restraining order against the grandfather as well as Melissa? Why would a stalker target a particular member of a family? I'm wondering if he was trying to "prove his love" to MH by protecting her from him if he was an abuser. What do you all think?

[paperwing]

Hey daisy.faithfull - interesting points. But I still have questions : )

A fixation on a physical flaw may be painful - doesn't qualify as a red flag for rape/murder I don't think...

Pregnancy can mess with a woman's hormones and emotions - no argument there. Even to the point of suffering serious, clinical depression (most widely known as post-partum, but that doesn't mean a woman won't experience difficulties at other times).

Post-partum depression, even situational depression, new-mother anxieties, body image fears, etc. these things are all fairly common, and often experienced by many women. None of whom kill children.

I think this ex, if he'd been told that MH had been diagnosed with a personality disorder, would have offered that. He really didn't seem to know much. But then again, a personality disorder doesn't define someone as capable of murder. There are so many variations and manifestations of emotional and psychological difficulties - and diagnoses - and there are few that generally assign someone as homicidal - and those are only on an individual basis at best, I believe.

For this ex to allude to a personality disorder - having not spoken to MH since the divorce and having no qualifications to make such a diagnosis/assessment seems sort of non-useful at best. If this man believed that his ex was homicidal, then I have to question his viability as a reasonable candidate for custody of his child... Especially making this assertion after having not spoken to MH since 2005. It sort of makes his analysis kind of useless, no?.

Do you think I'm way off on this stuff? Maybe I am...

[Winnow]

https://ocapps.occourts.org/FamLawWebv2/DisplayCase.do?caseNbr=05D000448&src=case_src_dtl

if you look it up it says disso without children. But I don't see how they were married long enough for her to get alimony based on age, and modifications are usually about child support.

Looks like the filing was done in January 05, divorce granted in September 05, and modifications to support (my thinking is child support) in 07.


"Without children" ? ? ? ? ?

[Wannabesleuth]

Does it seem odd to anyone that an x-boyfriend would need a restraining order against the grandfather as well as Melissa? Why would a stalker target a particular member of a family? I'm wondering if he was trying to "prove his love" to MH by protecting her from him if he was an abuser. What do you all think?


Since this restraining order WAS granted, does it mean this ex boyfriend Josh Palmer (he allegedly has a looong rap sheet) actually did threaten them? How thoroughly does LE investigate restraining orders.

Also, could this ex still be in the picture?

[txsvicki]

Does it seem odd to anyone that an x-boyfriend would need a restraining order against the grandfather as well as Melissa? Why would a stalker target a particular member of a family? I'm wondering if he was trying to "prove his love" to MH by protecting her from him if he was an abuser. What do you all think?

After all I've read, I'm not believing that this man did anything much at all unless he was angry and made a few threatening visits or calls out of anger of maybe being accused of something that he didn't do. I think it's too bad that she involved her elderly grandfather in all her drama.

[Wannabesleuth]

TxVickie, you have a point. It's sounds like this accusation/restraining order could have been similar to her accusing the cop of raping her...

Again, MH is an attention seeker and perhaps sees/imagines herself in a victim role.