Sheri Coleman, sons Garett and Gavin murdered 5-5-09, Columbia, IL. Pt2

[SuziQ]

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[mikeysmommom]

Donate more money to Illinois politicians than the ILTA (http://www.iltla.com/) has would be my guess.

Thank You............I was hoping you would say write letters, sign petitions....I guess 3 life sentences will have to do.

[Stella5]

Medusa... where do they lock people up over there? I would imagine the county, like STL County, has a central lock up to hold perps until trials but I'm not so familiar with that side of the rivers correctional facilities. TIA

[adnoid]

Thank You............I was hoping you would say write letters, sign petitions....I guess 3 life sentences will have to do.

If I thought that would work I'd suggest it. Politicians ignore petitions unless you attach a check in my experience.

He can still be sentenced to execution, but there is a good chance the citizens of Illinois will pay for him to eat, sleep and get all the medical care he needs until he dies of old age.

[Stella5]

Thank You............I was hoping you would say write letters, sign petitions....I guess 3 life sentences will have to do.

Does anyone know the status of the review committee on the moratorium? I've been trying to find it with no luck. I know the other criminal... Blago... did nothing on it all during his time in office. Wonder what the new governors position on the DP is.

[WholeLottaRosie]

Medusa... where do they lock people up over there? I would imagine the county, like STL County, has a central lock up to hold perps until trials but I'm not so familiar with that side of the rivers correctional facilities. TIA

Monroe County (columbia) has a county jail. I assume that is where he will be held pending trial. can't imagine him getting out on bond. Would expect 1 million up cash only to keep him in.

[Wrinkles]

Edit: Wrong story (wishful thinking, bad reading)

[WholeLottaRosie]

getting offline a while - bad storm moving in and wanna shut down computer. See ya later!

[Wrinkles]

Be safe Medusa!

W

[SuziQ]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/CD8E133992A7C529862575B50061177F?OpenDocument

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Police followed Coleman out of the cemetery as the family drove south, police sources said. Major Case Squad commander Jeff Connor said that he will hold a press briefing between 4 p.m. and 4:30 p.m. today.
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[Jball72]

Just wanted to say that I never heard of this site until a few LE officers mentioned it and that you posted the You-tube link. So I had to check it out. Some very interesting posts, some dead on some not...

Something that I will point out is Illinois is experiancing rather high Violence acts involving Divorce.

I grew up in Columbia/Dupo area and live 5 mins from there now.

VERY VERY Sad... My prayers go out to Sheri and her family!, I have 3 sons and could not imagine loosing them all at once...

I will say another thing, I notice ALOT of posts is information from the news and Associated Press, I can tell you from experiance involving other events in the last 2 years that everything they report is not always exact....But I can tell who is in the LE community by the information they have posted..

[mikeysmommom]

Just wanted to say that I never heard of this site until a few LE officers mentioned it and that you posted the You-tube link. So I had to check it out. Some very interesting posts, some dead on some not...

Something that I will point out is Illinois is experiancing rather high Violence acts involving Divorce.

I grew up in Columbia/Dupo area and live 5 mins from there now.

VERY EVRY Sad... My prayers go out to Sheri and her family!, I have 3 sons and could not imagine loosing them all at once...

I will say another thing, I notice ALOT of posts is information from the news and Associated Press, I can tell you from experiance involving other events in the last 2 years that everything they report is not always exact....But I can tell who is in the LE community by the information they have posted..

So very sad but it is happening all over the country,It makes no sense to kill especially your children.I could not image the pain Sheri's family is in my heart has been breaking for them.

[mikeysmommom]

To bad the victims do not get an extra two years of life.:furious:

[Stella5]

getting offline a while - bad storm moving in and wanna shut down computer. See ya later!

Be safe! It's getting nasty out there and VERY loud with the thunder! TTYL

[pferrin]

SuziQ, As I read your reply..I think it was # 17 of the 1st thread..I began thinking you should be named Lady ESP.LOL It mentions very very early on "ok wheres the girlfriend?"

[SuziQ]

Nevermind, it's the stuff about the funeral the other day. Sheesh

The Cherry ad locks up my computer on whatever site they are on.

[mikeysmommom]

Has it started ?I can not find it...........HELP

[KaylynnCouture]

Has it started ?I can not find it...........HELP

I don't think it starts until 4:30 central time.

[Jball72]

To bad the victims do not get an extra two years of life.:furious:

I agree, They should have many more years of life.

The Amanda Jones case really disturbs me also, reading the posts now. We searched and searched, there are theory's...wish there was a smoking gun on that case!

[SuziQ]

Has it started ?I can not find it...........HELP

It should start in 15-45 minutes from now. Not seeing any links yet.

[mikeysmommom]

Time on my computer is wrong sorry.Its only 4 45 I thought it was 545 I Am an hour ahead so at 530 my time is the presser.Thats what no sleep and a pot of coffee does to me lol.

[SeriouslySearching]

Just wanted to say that I never heard of this site until a few LE officers mentioned it and that you posted the You-tube link. So I had to check it out. Some very interesting posts, some dead on some not...

Something that I will point out is Illinois is experiancing rather high Violence acts involving Divorce.

I grew up in Columbia/Dupo area and live 5 mins from there now.

VERY VERY Sad... My prayers go out to Sheri and her family!, I have 3 sons and could not imagine loosing them all at once...

I will say another thing, I notice ALOT of posts is information from the news and Associated Press, I can tell you from experiance involving other events in the last 2 years that everything they report is not always exact....But I can tell who is in the LE community by the information they have posted..Welcome to WS, JBall~ :)

One good thing about WS is that we grab all the news and information we can find to keep it in one place for easy access when things go to trial. It is true you have to read between the lines with the media and LE, but we are pretty good at it. ;) (Maybe you could give us some hints tho!! Like did they check out the deer video?)

[mikeysmommom]

Nevermind, it's the stuff about the funeral the other day. Sheesh

The Cherry ad locks up my computer on whatever site they are on.

I have done that myself ,I think we have been reading so many things in a short period we are bound to repeat a few things.

[SeriouslySearching]

I don't think it starts until 4:30 central time.Are we sure this time they are going to have one?! I don't want to get my hopes up again. They are not very reliable with their pressers.

ETA: I have been gone for a bit. What have I missed?! Last I knew he was at the hospital with his parents...

[Kristins1223]

I just watched the video of the 3 of them again at the cemetary and the lack of emotion bothers me so much....forget the husband, we know he's coldhearted but those were his parents grandkids!!!!! How come his mother is just standing there like a statue? I wonder if his parents knew about marital problems and just won't come forward with any info.

[DogWood]

Not sure if this has been posted yet or not. Sorry if it has...

"An update on the investigation into the Coleman family murders is expected this afternoon from the Major Case Squad according to Major Jeff Connor. Connor confirmed that if an arrest is made, the suspect will be booked in Columbia before going to jail in Waterloo, Illinois."

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175221&catid=3

[Stella5]

Just wanted to say that I never heard of this site until a few LE officers mentioned it and that you posted the You-tube link. So I had to check it out. Some very interesting posts, some dead on some not...

Something that I will point out is Illinois is experiancing rather high Violence acts involving Divorce.

I grew up in Columbia/Dupo area and live 5 mins from there now.

VERY VERY Sad... My prayers go out to Sheri and her family!, I have 3 sons and could not imagine loosing them all at once...

I will say another thing, I notice ALOT of posts is information from the news and Associated Press, I can tell you from experiance involving other events in the last 2 years that everything they report is not always exact....But I can tell who is in the LE community by the information they have posted..

Welcome to WS Jball!

[KaylynnCouture]

Does anyone have any links for the presser? TIA.

[Stella5]

Not sure if this has been posted yet or not. Sorry if it has...

"An update on the investigation into the Coleman family murders is expected this afternoon from the Major Case Squad according to Major Jeff Connor. Connor confirmed that if an arrest is made, the suspect will be booked in Columbia before going to jail in Waterloo, Illinois."

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175221&catid=3

Trying to read between the lines and determine if the "IF" really means they are anticipating an arrest today *crossing fingers*

[SuziQ]

No live links yet. But media saying 4pm presser

[KaylynnCouture]

Trying to read between the lines and determine if the "IF" really means they are anticipating an arrest today *crossing fingers*

I think it's a little weird that LE added that "if an arrest is being made.." statement. In my opinion, an arrest is very close.

Praying for some justice in this case today! :rose:

[mikeysmommom]

I just watched the video of the 3 of them again at the cemetary and the lack of emotion bothers me so much....forget the husband, we know he's coldhearted but those were his parents grandkids!!!!! How come his mother is just standing there like a statue? I wonder if his parents knew about marital problems and just won't come forward with any info.

If God forbid it was my grandchildren I would have to be held up and I would crying like a fountain .

[Stella5]

Does anyone have any links for the presser? TIA.

Not sure if they'll have it here or not...

http://www.fox2now.com/news/livestreaming/

[SuziQ]

Thank you for the link Stella. I'm not seeing any others. However, KSDK has a live link to an Orange County, Ca. police pursuit....go figure.

[Kristins1223]

If God forbid it was my grandchildren I would have to be held up and I would crying like a fountain .

Exactly! And these people just went on with their day. Lets bury the family then off to the hospital. They took his fingerprints but how long does it take to compare them to the evidence? Could LE be waiting on that for an arrest?

[Stella5]

Thank you for the link Stella. I'm not seeing any others. However, KSDK has a live link to an Orange County, Ca. police pursuit....go figure.

Well that's strange! Guess a slow news day in the Lou ;-)

They haven't broken into any local programming yet. I need more excuses as to why I'm on the computer & watching TV of a soap that I don't watch & constantly changing the channel instead of cleaning up the Family room. Hubby keeps walking in asking me what I'm doing & giving me funny looks!

[Wrinkles]

>>UPDATE: New information expected soon on Coleman family murders<<

Posted 30 minutes ago here. (http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175221&catid=3)

We can hope there really is something -- like justice starting to take the course that it can (aside from looking for the can opener.)

W

[KaylynnCouture]

KMOV is carrying the presser live.

http://www.kmov.com/video/?nvid=57410&live=yes&noad=yes

[daisy.faithfull]

Not sure if this has been posted yet or not. Sorry if it has...

"An update on the investigation into the Coleman family murders is expected this afternoon from the Major Case Squad according to Major Jeff Connor. Connor confirmed that if an arrest is made, the suspect will be booked in Columbia before going to jail in Waterloo, Illinois."

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175221&catid=3

From the above post:
"The three then left so Coleman's mother could get cancer treatment. The three are being followed by detectives."

[Wrinkles]

Noted in the above article:

>>NewsChannel 5 plans to carry the Major Case Squad's afternoon news conference live on our website if weather permits.<<

[SuziQ]

Well that's strange! Guess a slow news day in the Lou ;-)

They haven't broken into any local programming yet. I need more excuses as to why I'm on the computer & watching TV of a soap that I don't watch & constantly changing the channel instead of cleaning up the Family room. Hubby keeps walking in asking me what I'm doing & giving me funny looks!

I'm supposed to be painting. At this rate I'll be painting at 2am.

[Stella5]

Not sure if they'll have it here or not...

http://www.fox2now.com/news/livestreaming/

Seems like they will carry it on that live feed. Theres a bunch of people on there waiting for it. If you don't see the Arch in the top box, and the weather radar in the bottom activate your activex.

From Fox: About the Live Feed:
Watch uncut and unedited breaking news, weather alerts, SkyFOX, special events and LIVE coverage, live newscasts, press conferences, highway and weather cameras, court proceedings, sports announcements and much more. All times are Central unless otherwise noted. Schedule of events is preliminary. Schedule and availability of live events may change without notice.

[DogWood]

The link is up here for the presser now as well....

http://www.ksdk.com/default.aspx

I can get some of them to stream and others I can't...

[jnTexas]

Shrieff is thanking the MCS on the channel 4 feed.

[KaylynnCouture]

http://www.kmov.com/video/?nvid=57410&live=yes&noad=yes is carrying the presser live, but the reception isn't great because of the weather there. The sound is good, but the video part is a little choppy.

[KaylynnCouture]

I heard the sheriff say "We're encouraging anyone who may have seen anything to please come forward"...then it cut to the weather.

[mostlylurking]

He very clearly said that he "believes that the evidence speaks to who is responsible for these crimes"

[ckwood32]

WHAT? He isn't being arrested???? This stinks!

[jnTexas]

I heard the sheriff say "We're encouraging anyone who may have seen anything to please come forward"...then it cut to the weather.

Same here it went down after that comment.:confused:

[ckwood32]

Or is he being arrested?? I can't watch at work! Thanks for keeping us updated tho.

[SewingDeb]

KSDK live link (hasn't started yet):
http://www.ksdk.com/video/live/live_3.aspx

[jnTexas]

He very clearly said that he "believes that the evidence speaks to who is responsible for these crimes"

that in itself speaks volumes!

[mikeysmommom]

found this but cant see presser stupid firefox
http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175221&catid=40

[KaylynnCouture]

He very clearly said that he "believes that the evidence speaks to who is responsible for these crimes"

Chris Coleman..it's time to confess.

[SuziQ]

Or is he being arrested?? I can't watch at work! Thanks for keeping us updated tho.

Heck if I know, my computer locked up four times while I was trying to get a feed open. And Ws address bar just keeps loading and loading...did I mention I hate Cherry's? lol.

[jnTexas]

Chris Coleman..it's time to confess.

that's a good interpretation of LE's statement

[SeriouslySearching]

Is it over already?!

[DogWood]

He very clearly said that he "believes that the evidence speaks to who is responsible for these crimes"

It was very clear. Not a matter of "if" but "when".

Major Conner didn't mince words at all on that. :)

[SewingDeb]

UPDATE: Major Case Squad says one person responsible for Coleman family killings
KSDK -- One person is responsible for the deaths of a Columbia woman and her two young sons and their killings were not a random act. That's the update this afternoon from the Major Case Squad.

Major Jeff Connor and Columbia Police Chief Joe Edwards held a news conference this afternoon. Connor said that after nine days of investigation, detectives determined that one person carried out the killings, and it was not a random act. Connor would not release the name of the individual believed to have carried out the killings.



http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175221&catid=40

[KaylynnCouture]

Is it over already?!

I think so. Every link I check is now broadcasting the weather.

[Stella5]

Investigators say they have a suspect in mind in Columbia triple murder

04:24 PM CDT on Wednesday, May 13, 2009


Photos from the vigil


(KMOV.com) -- Detectives are stopping short of announcing an arrest in the murder of a Columbia, Illinois family. Investigators with the Major Case Squad say that they have a suspect in mind but not in custody. They would not elaborate any further. Police are still appealing to the public for information about the family.

[mostlylurking]

Is it over already?!

Not sure --
It just kind of stopped & went into flash flood warnings, etc. I think weather knocked out the broadcast.

I miss living in St. Louis -- but I'm glad I'm not there for flash floods today.

[mikeysmommom]

Was he arrested?????

[DogWood]

Is it over already?!

Yes. Hopefully one of the stations will have the video up soon.

[jnTexas]

I caught the end of what was on channel 4. the channel 5 http://www.ksdk.com/video/live/ just shows a feed of it raining in STL. Did they cover it?

[KaylynnCouture]

Investigators have a suspect in mind, but are not releasing the name: http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov-stlouis-090512-coleman-services.1b084ae0.html

[KaylynnCouture]

Was he arrested?????

Not yet.

[Stella5]

KSDK -- One person is responsible for the deaths of a Columbia woman and her two young sons and their killings were not a random act. That's the update this afternoon from the Major Case Squad.

Major Jeff Connor and Columbia Police Chief Joe Edwards held a news conference this afternoon. Connor said that after nine days of investigation, detectives determined that one person carried out the killings, and it was not a random act.

Connor would not release the name of the individual believed to have carried out the killings. "We don't feel this was a random act.. we fell the family was targeted," Connor said.

Connor said evidence on the case was turned over to the Monroe County States Attorney Office. He said charges are being deferred unitl more forensic tests are complete. Connor said that could take weeks.

When asked if police were following the husband and father of the victims, Chris Coleman, Connor said no. He said he was not going to list Coleman as a suspect

My bold... WEEKS??? Are you kidding!!!

[AfterSunset]

<snip>
KSDK -- One person is responsible for the deaths of a Columbia woman and her two young sons and their killings were not a random act. That's the update this afternoon from the Major Case Squad.
<snip>

link http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175221&catid=40

sorry if I did this wrong...never have done this...

[DogWood]

UPDATE: Major Case Squad says one person responsible for Coleman family killings
KSDK -- One person is responsible for the deaths of a Columbia woman and her two young sons and their killings were not a random act. That's the update this afternoon from the Major Case Squad.

Major Jeff Connor and Columbia Police Chief Joe Edwards held a news conference this afternoon. Connor said that after nine days of investigation, detectives determined that one person carried out the killings, and it was not a random act.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175221&catid=40

[PrayersForMaura]

Not sure --
It just kind of stopped & went into flash flood warnings, etc. I think weather knocked out the broadcast.

I miss living in St. Louis -- but I'm glad I'm not there for flash floods today.

Weather's been crappy here the last few days. Lots of thunderstorms.

[Stella5]

They did not break into regular programming, so I saw everything you all did with the feeds - not much. I guess they tipped the media that there would be no arrest, or else I'd assume they'd break into programming for the actual arrest.

[mikeysmommom]

KSDK -- One person is responsible for the deaths of a Columbia woman and her two young sons and their killings were not a random act. That's the update this afternoon from the Major Case Squad.

Major Jeff Connor and Columbia Police Chief Joe Edwards held a news conference this afternoon. Connor said that after nine days of investigation, detectives determined that one person carried out the killings, and it was not a random act.

Connor would not release the name of the individual believed to have carried out the killings. "We don't feel this was a random act.. we fell the family was targeted," Connor said.

Connor said evidence on the case was turned over to the Monroe County States Attorney Office. He said charges are being deferred unitl more forensic tests are complete. Connor said that could take weeks.

When asked if police were following the husband and father of the victims, Chris Coleman, Connor said no. He said he was not going to list Coleman as a suspect

My bold... WEEKS??? Are you kidding!!!

WEEKS OMG, and if they are not following why were 4 cars and 8 men following him every where he goes DUH

[SeriouslySearching]

Connor said evidence on the case was turned over to the Monroe County States Attorney Office. He said charges are being deferred unitl more forensic tests are complete. Connor said that could take weeks.

When asked if police were following the husband and father of the victims, Chris Coleman, Connor said no. He said he was not going to list Coleman as a suspect.

~snip~

The three then left so Coleman's mother could get cancer treatment. The three are being followed by detectives.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=175221&catid=40 (Bolded by me)

WTH?! Why would Connor so boldly lie about it when we know they are following him openly?

(Hmmm...I never would have figured out about the cancer treatments, but I am glad I was wrong about him going to the psych ward!! LOL)

[jnTexas]

They did not break into regular programming, so I saw everything you all did with the feeds - not much. I guess they tipped the media that there would be no arrest, or else I'd assume they'd break into programming for the actual arrest.

I wish they would've arrested him early on so he couldn't attend the funerals. How sad it is that the person who took their lives is the one who got to decide where they would be burried. Makes me sick.:furious:

[jnTexas]

WEEKS OMG, and if they are not following why were 4 cars and 8 men following him every where he goes DUH

Maybe it's not the sheriff's department following but the MCS??:confused:

[SuziQ]

KSDK -- One person is responsible for the deaths of a Columbia woman and her two young sons and their killings were not a random act. That's the update this afternoon from the Major Case Squad.

Major Jeff Connor and Columbia Police Chief Joe Edwards held a news conference this afternoon. Connor said that after nine days of investigation, detectives determined that one person carried out the killings, and it was not a random act.

Connor would not release the name of the individual believed to have carried out the killings. "We don't feel this was a random act.. we fell the family was targeted," Connor said.

Connor said evidence on the case was turned over to the Monroe County States Attorney Office. He said charges are being deferred unitl more forensic tests are complete. Connor said that could take weeks.

When asked if police were following the husband and father of the victims, Chris Coleman, Connor said no. He said he was not going to list Coleman as a suspect

My bold... WEEKS??? Are you kidding!!!

Soooooo MCS detectives just happened to go on a road trip that includes camping out in front of CC's parents house, that includes a sightseeing tour a church, cemetary and hospital, all of which CC happened to also go to?

Riiiiight.....

[snowshuze]

Heh. Let him get comfy with the idea he has a little time yet.

MOO and stuff.

[WholeLottaRosie]

Was he arrested?????


No and it might be weeks waiting on test results. WTF!!!!!

[Stella5]

Soooooo MCS detectives just happened to go on a road trip that includes camping out in front of CC's parents house, that includes a sightseeing tour a church, cemetary and hospital, all of which CC happened to also go to?

Riiiiight.....

Me thinks MCS is playing some mind games with CC to make him nervous & trip him up. Come on Chris, just confess!

[Stella5]

No and it might be weeks waiting on test results. WTF!!!!!

Would be nice to know what exactly they are testing. An earlier report said they put a rush on the tests. Weeks is a rush??? Surely they have COD, even though we have neighbors reports, I'd like an official statement from MCS. They need to keep gently turning up the heat on this dude!

[jnTexas]

No and it might be weeks waiting on test results. WTF!!!!!

Maybe they are thinking they were drugged also?

[mikeysmommom]

I wish they would've arrested him early on so he couldn't attend the funerals. How sad it is that the person who took their lives is the one who got to decide where they would be burried. Makes me sick.:furious:

Me too and to top it off he was trying to take away her families right to say good bye.Imagine being in that frame of mind and then being forced to get a court order to be able to say good bye to your only daughter and grandchildren .And he is the reason a funeral was needed:furious::furious::furious:
Me I would be insane by now and Chris would have to be more afraid of me then LE.:furious::furious::furious:

[Stella5]

Maybe they are thinking they were drugged also?

Who knows! Now that MCS has made their statement, without a direct finger pointing, wonder if Artie & Company will release a statement about their clients innocence? Or will they remain mum? Hhhmmm...

[Kristins1223]

I'll be suprised if he confesses. To me, it just seems like they have little evidence or an arrest would have been made. I hope his fingerprints link him somehow. I think we're so used to getting all this information like the Casey Anthony case that the suspense is killing us all.

[mikeysmommom]

Yes Fla has spoiled us................

[DogWood]

Here it is for those who missed it...

http://www.bnd.com/bndtv/

[SeriouslySearching]

They are not going to let him run which is a good thing. Letting him know he is a target is going to be interesting if it takes actual weeks before an arrest. (I don't see LE waiting that long, however.)

I am very happy the case was turned over to the SA's office today. It means they do have a significant amount of evidence in place already even if they have to wait on the final forensic reports.

The Tox screens usually take the longest to come back. I can't imagine what else they are waiting on unless they are going to use new forensic testing such as the touch DNA etc.

[jnTexas]

I'll be suprised if he confesses. To me, it just seems like they have little evidence or an arrest would have been made. I hope his fingerprints link him somehow. I think we're so used to getting all this information like the Casey Anthony case that the suspense is killing us all.

He has lawyered up. He will never confess. Then the lawyer would be out of more money. JMO

[DogWood]

Heh. Let him get comfy with the idea he has a little time yet.

MOO and stuff.

Very little time! :)

[mikeysmommom]

From the above article: "When asked if police were following the husband and father of the victims, Chris Coleman, Connor said no. He said he was not going to list Coleman as a suspect."

huh?

As a suspect :rolleyes:maybe because he is the only suspect maybe just being coy(I hope)

[WholeLottaRosie]

I really hope it doesn't take weeks to lock this POS up. I hope the State's Attorney issues charges very soon. I can't imagine what it is costing to keep him under surveillance so he doesn't run.

[daisy.faithfull]

Has anyone seen such an overt tail before that lasted weeks?

[mikeysmommom]

Has anyone seen such an overt tail before that lasted weeks?

Never

[chestergal]

AS YOU KNOW HE HAS NOT BEEN ARRESTED
They are all back at the house on Dixie Dr in Chester

The cops and unmarked MCS are all over Chester (I have not seen this many cops strolling the streets in Chester for a long time - will explain later)

The father came into Walmart today after they got back from Cape G (maybe to fill a medicine prescription for his wife?)

Fox News is parked on the Walmart parking lot which is about 1/8 mile from the Coleman home on Dixie Dr.

Sheri & Chris' cars are not at the home in Chester. MCS was parked out by the house (but I did not do a head count or a car count because I wanted to act uninterested as I went by the home. There were other cars parked at the house.

People who live on Dixie were going about their daily chores like nothing was going on (many older people were out working in their yards or sitting in lawn chairs on their front porches.)

Everything seems as normal as can be in Chester - I did not hear any one talking about the case or Chris when I went into Walmart and the grocery store.

I bet MCS is knocking on doors in Chester trying to get people to talk. All it takes is one person to give the name of another person and off the MCS goes. (this may be why I see them driving around town in the unmarked cars - unmarked cars have only a spot light near the side drivers mirror)

I really think LE is releasing more info in the hopes that people in this small town will come forth. Again I must remind you that many are devoted to Grace Church and people in town may look badly at them if anyone helps LE in anyway because many of the church members still believe Chrissy could never kill his family.

I am even afraid to talk it about it with other people in town because you never know if they are a Grace Church droid or not.

I did say something to one gal that works at Walmart and you could tell she did not want to say anything to me about it. She probably was a Grace Church droid.

That will probably be it for a little while as I have to prep and cook dinner soon.

[jnTexas]

live feed of the news talking about this right now. http://www.ksdk.com/video/live/

[jnTexas]

neighbor did not want to be identified but said police took a computer from the parents house monday.

That was from the anchor lady on http://www.ksdk.com/video/live/

[snowshuze]

AS YOU KNOW HE HAS NOT BEEN ARRESTED
They are all back at the house on Dixie Dr in Chester

The cops and unmarked MCS are all over Chester (I have not seen this many cops strolling the streets in Chester for a long time - will explain later)

The father came into Walmart today after they got back from Cape G (maybe to fill a medicine prescription for his wife?)

Fox News is parked on the Walmart parking lot which is about 1/8 mile from the Coleman home on Dixie Dr.

Sheri & Chris' cars are not at the home in Chester. MCS was parked out by the house (but I did not do a head count or a car count because I wanted to act uninterested as I went by the home. There were other cars parked at the house.

People who live on Dixie were going about their daily chores like nothing was going on (many older people were out working in their yards or sitting in lawn chairs on their front porches.)

Everything seems as normal as can be in Chester - I did not hear any one talking about the case or Chris when I went into Walmart and the grocery store.

I bet MCS is knocking on doors in Chester trying to get people to talk. All it takes is one person to give the name of another person and off the MCS goes. (this may be why I see them driving around town in the unmarked cars - unmarked cars have only a spot light near the side drivers mirror)

I really think LE is releasing more info in the hopes that people in this small town will come forth. Again I must remind you that many are devoted to Grace Church and people in town may look badly at them if anyone helps LE in anyway because many of the church members still believe Chrissy could never kill his family.

I am even afraid to talk it about it with other people in town because you never know if they are a Grace Church droid or not.

I did say something to one gal that works at Walmart and you could tell she did not want to say anything to me about it. She probably was a Grace Church droid.

That will probably be it for a little while as I have to prep and cook dinner soon.


Wow. Kinda like Stepford wives. :eek:

[SeriouslySearching]

Excellent report, Chestergal~ Bravo~ :clap::clap::clap::clap:

ETA: Another interesting note in the presser was when Connor mentioned that LE anticipated charges might have been filed today and the SA's office made the decision to wait on the other tests to come back. Woohoo~ It means they do feel they have the goods on the perp.

Something else I noticed when he was speaking about the tail on Chris, the way he put it could mean perhaps they were backing off of him. He even insinuated, imo, they could have been "protecting" him...did anyone else think that? (It was suggested by a reporter, but he didn't deny it exactly.)

[mikeysmommom]

AS YOU KNOW HE HAS NOT BEEN ARRESTED
They are all back at the house on Dixie Dr in Chester

The cops and unmarked MCS are all over Chester (I have not seen this many cops strolling the streets in Chester for a long time - will explain later)

The father came into Walmart today after they got back from Cape G (maybe to fill a medicine prescription for his wife?)

Fox News is parked on the Walmart parking lot which is about 1/8 mile from the Coleman home on Dixie Dr.

Sheri & Chris' cars are not at the home in Chester. MCS was parked out by the house (but I did not do a head count or a car count because I wanted to act uninterested as I went by the home. There were other cars parked at the house.

People who live on Dixie were going about their daily chores like nothing was going on (many older people were out working in their yards or sitting in lawn chairs on their front porches.)

Everything seems as normal as can be in Chester - I did not hear any one talking about the case or Chris when I went into Walmart and the grocery store.

I bet MCS is knocking on doors in Chester trying to get people to talk. All it takes is one person to give the name of another person and off the MCS goes. (this may be why I see them driving around town in the unmarked cars - unmarked cars have only a spot light near the side drivers mirror)

I really think LE is releasing more info in the hopes that people in this small town will come forth. Again I must remind you that many are devoted to Grace Church and people in town may look badly at them if anyone helps LE in anyway because many of the church members still believe Chrissy could never kill his family.

I am even afraid to talk it about it with other people in town because you never know if they are a Grace Church droid or not.

I did say something to one gal that works at Walmart and you could tell she did not want to say anything to me about it. She probably was a Grace Church droid.

That will probably be it for a little while as I have to prep and cook dinner soon.

Thank You so much for an insiders look:blowkiss:

[WholeLottaRosie]

Has anyone seen such an overt tail before that lasted weeks?


No and Fox 2 reported at 5 that the entire surveillance was pulled about an hour before today's presser, all the cars left.

That seems weird. For some reason they are either convinced he won't run, or they have other surveillance that can't be seen.

[mikeysmommom]

Getting the why isnt dinner done look so I will bbl.

[chestergal]

Wow. Kinda like Stepford wives. :eek:

EXACTLY (that is the best way to describe the Chester natives)

Hard working but very unfriendly and very anti-social. (that is why I called them droids)
They hardly smile at you when you are at the check-outs at Walmart or the Grocery Store.
If they do and if they are friendly all you have to do is ask is if they are from Chester originally and they will say no.

I can't say here why I live here because that might give too much away about myself which could ID me. I don't trust any of them around here.

Now as soon as you get out of Chester - the people are friendly as can be in the other small towns around here. I actually hate telling anyone that I meet outside of Chester that I live in Chester. When I do I do tell them I am not a native of Chester.

[KaylynnCouture]

Getting the why isnt dinner done look so I will bbl.

Lol yep, me too.

[daisy.faithfull]

I'm wondering if there are any cops staked out around Joyce Meyer's compound? I would love to know how that would shake up the town.

[chestergal]

No and Fox 2 reported at 5 that the entire surveillance was pulled about an hour before today's presser, all the cars left.

That seems weird. For some reason they are either convinced he won't run, or they have other surveillance that can't be seen.


I think that is BS - I was just by there before I posted.
They may have backed off from being so close to the home but they are still here.

[snowshuze]

EXACTLY (that is the best way to describe the Chester natives)

Hard working but very unfriendly and very anti-social. (that is why I called them droids)
They hardly smile at you when you are at the check-outs at Walmart or the Grocery Store.
If they do and if they are friendly all you have to do is ask is if they are from Chester originally and they will say no.

I can't say here why I live here because that might give too much away about myself which could ID me. I don't trust any of them around here.

Now as soon as you get out of Chester - the people are friendly as can be in the other small towns around here. I actually hate telling anyone that I meet outside of Chester that I live in Chester. When I do I do tell them I am not a native of Chester.
That's a roger Agent C. Keep up the good work.

:cool:

[Wrinkles]

Hiya All,

Has anyone seen this article: (http://www.bnd.com/homepage/story/767039.html)

>>Around 2 p.m. Wednesday Chris Coleman was visited for more than 30 minutes at his father's home by Roby Walker, spokesman for Joyce Meyer Ministries. Coleman is security chief for Meyer, who is an evangelist. Walker was not immediately available for comment.<<

W

[KR2tonenow]

thanks for info. trying to catch up!:)

[Wrinkles]

At the above link: (http://www.bnd.com/homepage/story/767039.html)

>>He said evidence was discarded on Interstate 255 and investigators are asking for anyone who saw something unusual before 6:50 a.m. on May 5 to call police.<<

Hmmm...now ain't that a pistol! (or a paint can, or pair of gloves, or shoe string)

W

[daisy.faithfull]

No and Fox 2 reported at 5 that the entire surveillance was pulled about an hour before today's presser, all the cars left.

That seems weird. For some reason they are either convinced he won't run, or they have other surveillance that can't be seen.

I'm disappointed that we may not see an arrest soon, but I gotta say that I'm starting to enjoy seeing what MCS is going to do next. These guys are stone cold straight up pros... I wonder if the do the whole talking into their wrists like the secret service people?:crazy:

Something else that makes this intriguing is the fact that to my knowledge CC hasn't been interviewed extensively or done a polygraph. Total psychological warfare. CC has barely been able to look into the eyes of his adversaries and they are watching him like a worm on a hook. Wonder what else is going on that we cannot see?

Its got to be a huge learning experience for the Chester LE!

[Wrinkles]

Bwahahahahah SnowShuze

>>That's a roger Agent C. Keep up the good work.<<

YES, thank you ChesterGal for giving us the real unadulterated inside scoop!

Also...hoping ArtieG gets in here to let us know how he and his neighbors are all doing. I'm so sorry this happened anywhere, and so sorry in their neighborhood.

W

[Wrinkles]

Begging for a link to a video of the news conference today. I went to one that was posted and all there was was a state senator blabbing. I went to another, didn't get anything.

Could someone post me a "definite" link to the news conference video?

Thanks a ton

W

[WholeLottaRosie]

I think that is BS - I was just by there before I posted.
They may have backed off from being so close to the home but they are still here.


I am really glad to hear that. The thought he could take off just makes me sick.

[daisy.faithfull]

No and Fox 2 reported at 5 that the entire surveillance was pulled about an hour before today's presser, all the cars left.

That seems weird. For some reason they are either convinced he won't run, or they have other surveillance that can't be seen.

I think maybe all the tails were more about making it perfectly clear to CC exactly who they believe is responsible for the murders and really had very little to do with making sure he stayed in town. Smooth, smooth, smooth...

Now they've started to release tiny bits of info. If it is possible for those around him to pop out of their denial this should do it. Its like psychological water boarding. I would so love to be a fly on the wall in Chester!

Ms. Chestergal you are so awesome! Enjoy your dinner!

[daisy.faithfull]

Begging for a link to a video of the news conference today. I went to one that was posted and all there was was a state senator blabbing. I went to another, didn't get anything.

Could someone post me a "definite" link to the news conference video?

Thanks a ton

W

Is this the one you are talking about Wrinkles? http://www.bnd.com/bndtv/

[Jack]

There is a replay on demand of the press conference at the PD website:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/CD8E133992A7C529862575B50061177F?OpenDocument

[DogWood]

Who or what led the investigation to Springfield, MO?

(What am I not remembering?!)

[WholeLottaRosie]

Who or what led the investigation to Springfield, MO?

(What am I not remembering?!)

I don't know, I hadn't heard that. Hopefully someone knows more.

[DogWood]

Is this the one you are talking about Wrinkles? http://www.bnd.com/bndtv/

That one still works for me...

[snowshuze]

Who or what led the investigation to Springfield, MO?

(What am I not remembering?!)

:eek:

I have alibis and character witnesses.

[DogWood]

:eek:

I have alibis and character witnesses.

lol :dance:

[DogWood]

I don't know, I hadn't heard that. Hopefully someone knows more.

Major Conner talked about it in the presser...I hope someone remembers too!:)

[Wrinkles]

Hello Gang

EWW EWW EWWWWWW....

first, here are some of my notes -- I found and listened to the press conf.

======
one person involved
not random, actually intended to kill the 3 members
evidence - state's attorney (discussed throughout the week)
defer charges until further forensics and/or documents, reports
don't want to jump to anything - this is very serious
put public at ease, was not random act
anticipating charges in the future, when forensics come in - anticipate an arrest

"at this point" there is no one around Mr. Coleman
not talking about mr. coleman, I'm not listing as a suspect

not saying whether there are concerns the individual will leave the area (the one they believe did it)

investigation went to Chicago, Florida, Missouri, Springfield, all types of areas

Asked about "Bale type things, brought into the building" -- were those related to the investigation? He would not comment.

Not commenting about that person - i.e. are they being watched

Evidence we've collected, around Interstate 255, we believe there was evidence discarded along this route -- if someone saw something -- maybe along the bridge, let them call us.

Waiting on official cause of death forensics, pathologist, probably wait for coroner's inquest for that.

There was a meeting with the state's attorney -- anticipated the possiblity there would be charges today - decided to defer, wait a little longer. They were ready to present the case to state's attorney today -- he wanted to analyze information submitted.

Asking anyone for anything they might have seen prior to the discovery of the bodies -- discovered around 6:51AM

looking for anything "out of the ordinary" -- asking them to please call.

how confident are you that after analysis ... state attorney will file charges: confident case will be solved (after further analysis)

Asked of Major Conner:
Is it fair characterization to say you know who did this --
Our investigation, to me, reveals who's responsible for these deaths. I'll leave it at that.
======

BALE TYPE THINGS? BALE TYPE THINGS BROUGHT INTO THE BUILDING? LIKE TARGETS FOR BOWS AND ARROWS? Like maybe with a similar spray paint on them or ?

W

[daisy.faithfull]

I heard that too Dogwood. The only thing I could think of is that one of CC's mistresses lives there.

[WholeLottaRosie]

Hello Gang

EWW EWW EWWWWWW....

first, here are some of my notes -- I found and listened to the press conf.

======
one person involved
not random, actually intended to kill the 3 members
evidence - state's attorney (discussed throughout the week)
defer charges until further forensics and/or documents, reports
don't want to jump to anything - this is very serious
put public at ease, was not random act
anticipating charges in the future, when forensics come in - anticipate an arrest

"at this point" there is no one around Mr. Coleman
not talking about mr. coleman, I'm not listing as a suspect

not saying whether there are concerns the individual will leave the area (the one they believe did it)

investigation went to Chicago, Florida, Missouri, Springfield, all types of areas

Asked about "Bale type things, brought into the building" -- were those related to the investigation? He would not comment.

Not commenting about that person - i.e. are they being watched

Evidence we've collected, around Interstate 255, we believe there was evidence discarded along this route -- if someone saw something -- maybe along the bridge, let them call us.

Waiting on official cause of death forensics, pathologist, probably wait for coroner's inquest for that.

There was a meeting with the state's attorney -- anticipated the possiblity there would be charges today - decided to defer, wait a little longer. They were ready to present the case to state's attorney today -- he wanted to analyze information submitted.

Asking anyone for anything they might have seen prior to the discovery of the bodies -- discovered around 6:51AM

looking for anything "out of the ordinary" -- asking them to please call.

how confident are you that after analysis ... state attorney will file charges: confident case will be solved (after further analysis)

Asked of Major Conner:
Is it fair characterization to say you know who did this --
Our investigation, to me, reveals who's responsible for these deaths. I'll leave it at that.
======

BALE TYPE THINGS? BALE TYPE THINGS BROUGHT INTO THE BUILDING? LIKE TARGETS FOR BOWS AND ARROWS? Like maybe with a similar spray paint on them or ?

W

Great notes,Wrinkles. One thought, when he said Springfield, he could have meant IL - we have one as well, tis the state capital.

I saw a clip on the news of a cop caring a bale thing - it was white, covered in what looked like plastic tape, maybe red. I didn't pay that much attention. Would have been on Fox 2.

[ckwood32]

WOW! That's all I can say. So obvious they KNOW it's Chris. Thanks to everyone for updating!

[artie gumshoe]

well, I hate to say this if no one else knew this, but on the same day this all happened, droves of detectives went door to door asking for information. I asked the detective if this was an isolated case or a random killing, because it didn't look like a random thing.
He told me "I can't tell you anything, because of the investigation and such. But, any reasonable person with a bit of knowledge [wink, wink] would see that this is clearly an isolated incident."

They knew that this was just one person and one person had done this from teh first day, but seems as though they were just gathering evidence.

[jnTexas]

Hello Gang

EWW EWW EWWWWWW....

first, here are some of my notes -- I found and listened to the press conf.


======

BALE TYPE THINGS? BALE TYPE THINGS BROUGHT INTO THE BUILDING? LIKE TARGETS FOR BOWS AND ARROWS? Like maybe with a similar spray paint on them or ?

W

Snipped by me for space.

So would that be like bales of hay with targets spray painted on them??? If so what a dumba$$ using a can of spray paint from his house! should've at least bought a new one in a different color. If this is the case I'm betting they have alot of evidence. He's not as smart as he thinks...

[Wrinkles]

Okay you'ze guys!!!

These "bale type things" that were mentioned being brought in at the conference...just how might those connect to anything?

My first thought would be, do you use a spray paint to paint targets on those? Could that spray paint at a target at the home be linked to the spray paint in the crime?

Which one of you sleuther's found that littlesheric bow hunting thing? Might you have given them a GREAT tip to have looked at?

I recall asking, were there targets towards the lake, maybe something the children shot at? Or maybe these were somewhere else and picked up -- on a Coleman property?

What could those bales be used for? The paint, a hunter wouldn't leave a bow hanging on one of those would he -- not outdoors? Maybe one with a string missing?

AND, I very much remember one of the guestbook people, sorely grieved, mentioning -- as if they were talking to one of the children -- that they would never step in the way of a target again.

Target...TARGET? Spray paint? Anything else?

W

[Wrinkles]

Found it about "walking in a target" (don't know what it means but): (http://www.legacy.com/gb2/guestbookentryprint.aspx?bookId=6189174858580)

>>Tell Garrett I will never walk in a Target with out thinking about him.<<

Oh no :) I get it a "Target" store :)

So forget this item -- but this entry was the one that mentioned "texting" with Sheri. There WERE texts to her friend. Again, hope the police has interviewed this friend who seemed to love Sheri and the boys so much.

W

[daisy.faithfull]

Wrinkles, I heard them mention the bales too. The only thing I could think of is maybe they are going to go through the neighborhood trash with a fine tooth comb. Hate to be the person that gets to do that.

When the reporter asked about the bales it sounded like the MCS dude didn't know what she was talking about. It could have been that he didn't hear her, but then when someone clarified the question Mr. MCS still didn't know what they were talking about. Once he did hear them he did a variation of the "no comment" dance. I could be reading it wrong though.

[analytical]

Okay you'ze guys!!!

These "bale type things" that were mentioned being brought in at the conference...just how might those connect to anything?

My first thought would be, do you use a spray paint to paint targets on those? Could that spray paint at a target at the home be linked to the spray paint in the crime?

Which one of you sleuther's found that littlesheric bow hunting thing? Might you have given them a GREAT tip to have looked at?

I recall asking, were there targets towards the lake, maybe something the children shot at? Or maybe these were somewhere else and picked up -- on a Coleman property?

What could those bales be used for? The paint, a hunter wouldn't leave a bow hanging on one of those would he -- not outdoors? Maybe one with a string missing?

AND, I very much remember one of the guestbook people, sorely grieved, mentioning -- as if they were talking to one of the children -- that they would never step in the way of a target again.

Target...TARGET? Spray paint? Anything else?

W

I saw that reference and it was never shopping the same way in a Target store again. Target .. major chain.

[daisy.faithfull]

You can tell that I'm a city girl because when he said bales I was so not thinking bales of hay... I figured it was some kind of container.:bang:

[Wrinkles]

Hello Dogwood,

I wondered about Springfield too -- and as our other WSr daisy.f -- I wondered if it was mistress interview (weren't there evidently a few "rumored" mistresses?) But -- was there a family property, cabin, or someplace where there were bow and arrow targets used by the family?

Also ArtieG, is there anyway that family had bales of hay targets set by the lake that were used for bow and arrow practice? Or are arrows for that type of practice too valuable to loose in lake, or might there have been a backboard where most wouldn't be? (judging relatively well trained archers?)

Oh and ArtieG -- thanks for coming in here and hanging with us, I know this whole thing must really be an upset to your lovely neighborhood, one that should never be upset by anything such as this.

W

[Wrinkles]

Oh DaisyF,

You could be righter -- did the Coleman family have a trash bailer in their home? It was "trash day that day." Did the police grab bails of trash in their trash can. Good thinking. I could be completely wrong -- that is why I asked.

What could these "bales" mean?

W

Edit: bailer = baler (misspelling?)

[analytical]

Which camera is being referred to? Was the camera aimed at the mailbox the one in question? Someone posted a page or so back that it's believed the "guts" of the camera were found in the lake behind the home and there is the rumor about the DVR being found under or around the bridge along 255.

Thanks!

[Wrinkles]

Hiya Analytical,

Yeah, thanks about the Target store thing, I was looking for the reference while you were typing and caught my error. You are correct, that was "target" with a capital "T."

Thanks for catching that, it would have driven me nuts if I hadn't found it.

W

[analytical]

Hiya Analytical,

Yeah, thanks about the Target store thing, I was looking for the reference while you were typing and caught my error. You are correct, that was "target" with a capital "T."

Thanks for catching that, it would have driven me nuts if I hadn't found it.

W

welcome :)

[DogWood]

Wrinkles, the first thing that came to my mind was baling wire...

[SeriouslySearching]

There were two bales of hay sitting right behind the Coleman house. I recall seeing them in the photo of the window, door, and two detectives. Let me find it~

My first thought of the bales when I saw them were how out of place they appeared to be in that setting. It is the only reason I remembered them now.

[chestergal]

OMG.... Bale type things!

Thinking of Bale wire here. If he used bale wire to strangle them with he may have nearly cut their heads off with it. It's very thin and strong.


I also saw a stack of straw by the back door of the house in videos. About 4 bales stacked up.

Some people still use bale wire in the area but it could have been bale rope also around the bales of straw.


Hello Gang

EWW EWW EWWWWWW....

first, here are some of my notes -- I found and listened to the press conf.

======
one person involved
not random, actually intended to kill the 3 members
evidence - state's attorney (discussed throughout the week)
defer charges until further forensics and/or documents, reports
don't want to jump to anything - this is very serious
put public at ease, was not random act
anticipating charges in the future, when forensics come in - anticipate an arrest

"at this point" there is no one around Mr. Coleman
not talking about mr. coleman, I'm not listing as a suspect

not saying whether there are concerns the individual will leave the area (the one they believe did it)

investigation went to Chicago, Florida, Missouri, Springfield, all types of areas

Asked about "Bale type things, brought into the building" -- were those related to the investigation? He would not comment.

Not commenting about that person - i.e. are they being watched

Evidence we've collected, around Interstate 255, we believe there was evidence discarded along this route -- if someone saw something -- maybe along the bridge, let them call us.

Waiting on official cause of death forensics, pathologist, probably wait for coroner's inquest for that.

There was a meeting with the state's attorney -- anticipated the possiblity there would be charges today - decided to defer, wait a little longer. They were ready to present the case to state's attorney today -- he wanted to analyze information submitted.

Asking anyone for anything they might have seen prior to the discovery of the bodies -- discovered around 6:51AM

looking for anything "out of the ordinary" -- asking them to please call.

how confident are you that after analysis ... state attorney will file charges: confident case will be solved (after further analysis)

Asked of Major Conner:
Is it fair characterization to say you know who did this --
Our investigation, to me, reveals who's responsible for these deaths. I'll leave it at that.
======

BALE TYPE THINGS? BALE TYPE THINGS BROUGHT INTO THE BUILDING? LIKE TARGETS FOR BOWS AND ARROWS? Like maybe with a similar spray paint on them or ?

W

[Wrinkles]

Hello Analytical,

You wrote:
>>Which camera is being referred to? Was the camera aimed at the mailbox the one in question? Someone posted a page or so back that it's believed the "guts" of the camera were found in the lake behind the home and there is the rumor about the DVR being found under or around the bridge along 255.<<

Guts of a camera in the lake? I didn't see that -- do you know where you saw that?

There was a camera, "under the roof covering the front door" -- that could be seen in pictures "way back." Supposedly this camera was trained on the mailbox -- which, if I recall correctly, was at the front, left side of the driveway as you enter it. Gads, I'm so sorry that ArtieG's graphics didn't come in on my screen when he posted them :(

I can't imagine where a camera whose guts were thrown into a lake might have been in the house -- maybe indoors? I believe that ArtieG mentioned a camera trained on the mailbox, and one on the lake.

Can you find where that was -- the camera guts in a lake? Or do I have to do my danged diligence again ;)

W

[artie gumshoe]

Also ArtieG, is there anyway that family had bales of hay targets set by the lake that were used for bow and arrow practice? Or are arrows for that type of practice too valuable to loose in lake, or might there have been a backboard where most wouldn't be? (judging relatively well trained archers?)

Oh and ArtieG -- thanks for coming in here and hanging with us, I know this whole thing must really be an upset to your lovely neighborhood, one that should never be upset by anything such as this.

W

I've never seen bales for target practice in their yard, but I don't see their back yard each day.

It is a slight upset, especially if they do not arrest CC or a family member. All of everything does point to him. I just want to know what the actual evidence was.

[SewingDeb]

Begging for a link to a video of the news conference today. I went to one that was posted and all there was was a state senator blabbing. I went to another, didn't get anything.

Could someone post me a "definite" link to the news conference video?

Thanks a ton

W

This one works for me:
http://www.bnd.com/bndtv/

[analytical]

Hello Analytical,

You wrote:
>>Which camera is being referred to? Was the camera aimed at the mailbox the one in question? Someone posted a page or so back that it's believed the "guts" of the camera were found in the lake behind the home and there is the rumor about the DVR being found under or around the bridge along 255.<<

Guts of a camera in the lake? I didn't see that -- do you know where you saw that?

There was a camera, "under the roof covering the front door" -- that could be seen in pictures "way back." Supposedly this camera was trained on the mailbox -- which, if I recall correctly, was at the front, left side of the driveway as you enter it. Gads, I'm so sorry that ArtieG's graphics didn't come in on my screen when he posted them :(

I can't imagine where a camera whose guts were thrown into a lake might have been in the house -- maybe indoors? I believe that ArtieG mentioned a camera trained on the mailbox, and one on the lake.

Can you find where that was -- the camera guts in a lake? Or do I have to do my danged diligence again ;)

W

within the last previous pages, I believe

first time I'd read anywhere of the discovery of anything other than the rumored DVR

[adnoid]

There were two bales of hay sitting right behind the Coleman house. I recall seeing them in the photo of the window, door, and two detectives. Let me find it~

My first thought of the bales when I saw them were how out of place they appeared to be in that setting. It is the only reason I remembered them now.

Hay bales are often used as backstops for archery targets - the references to Brother Deer Strangler made me think of this fact...

[artie gumshoe]

I know I did a post, not too long ago and if you just copy and paste, you can see the pictures I have here:

P1010130 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photosfromatelentlessphotographer/3528065365/)

P1010115 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photosfromatelentlessphotographer/3525632169/)

But you can see the camera and it is still attached. I heard that they had a camera facing the lake. If that is true, maybe it is that back camera that was torn up. Either way, if it wasn't CC or a family member, who would dare enter a subdivision with 3 cops, two state troopers and a police detective and murder the wife of a marine, who happened to be a marine herself?

[mikeysmommom]

At the above link: (http://www.bnd.com/homepage/story/767039.html)

>>He said evidence was discarded on Interstate 255 and investigators are asking for anyone who saw something unusual before 6:50 a.m. on May 5 to call police.<<

Hmmm...now ain't that a pistol! (or a paint can, or pair of gloves, or shoe string)

W

or the dvr from the camera

[daisy.faithfull]

Okay you'ze guys!!!

These "bale type things" that were mentioned being brought in at the conference...just how might those connect to anything?

My first thought would be, do you use a spray paint to paint targets on those? Could that spray paint at a target at the home be linked to the spray paint in the crime?

Which one of you sleuther's found that littlesheric bow hunting thing? Might you have given them a GREAT tip to have looked at?

I recall asking, were there targets towards the lake, maybe something the children shot at? Or maybe these were somewhere else and picked up -- on a Coleman property?

What could those bales be used for? The paint, a hunter wouldn't leave a bow hanging on one of those would he -- not outdoors? Maybe one with a string missing?

AND, I very much remember one of the guestbook people, sorely grieved, mentioning -- as if they were talking to one of the children -- that they would never step in the way of a target again.

Target...TARGET? Spray paint? Anything else?

W

That a good theory. I wonder if they can connect that kind of thing back to a particular bow like the do with bullet casings? I wouldn't think that that would be possible but these days you never know. He is putting his bro in big time hot water even if he was not involved. I wonder if LE went to go talk to him.

[SewingDeb]

P1010130 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photosfromatelentlessphotographer/3528065365/)

P1010115 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photosfromatelentlessphotographer/3525632169/)

These links should take you to artie gumshoe's pictures.

Edited to add: Well, that didn't do very well. Click on the links at the top of the black boxes:

P1010130 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! P1010130 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

P1010115 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! P1010115 on Flickr - Photo Sharing!

I hope this does the trick

[Wrinkles]

Hello Gang...

SeriouslySearching TOTE THAT BALE :) oops I mean, I hope you find those graphics with bales :blowkiss:

Medusa, you wrote:
>>I saw a clip on the news of a cop caring a bale thing - it was white, covered in what looked like plastic tape, maybe red. I didn't pay that much attention. Would have been on Fox 2.<<

Medusa, can you find this? I would like to see the size of these things, particularly in reference to what SS finds.

ALSO, everyone...this whole "paint thing" makes me sick when I think of the rumors of paint on the beautiful people we have lost. Is it possible that paint like that could carry something in it that could cause a person to pass out -- rendering them helpless to a strangling or other means of murder?

I can't get past paint being rumored not just on the wall and wonder what role it might play :(

W

EDITED: could something have been put in the paint to sedate someone?

[daisy.faithfull]

Hay bales are often used as backstops for archery targets - the references to Brother Deer Strangler made me think of this fact...

You're quicker on the draw than I am. Do you know if they can match a particular bow string to a particular type of bow?

I wonder if a bow string could leave any trace evidence behind on Sheri or the boys. I hope that he knocked them out before he did it. What kind of monster would do this to his family?

[chestergal]

I know I did a post, not too long ago and if you just copy and paste, you can see the pictures I have here:

P1010130 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photosfromatelentlessphotographer/3528065365/)

P1010115 on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/photosfromatelentlessphotographer/3525632169/)

But you can see the camera and it is still attached. I heard that they had a camera facing the lake. If that is true, maybe it is that back camera that was torn up. Either way, if it wasn't CC or a family member, who would dare enter a subdivision with 3 cops, two state troopers and a police detective and murder the wife of a marine, who happened to be a marine herself?


Artie... can you see if there are still bales of straw near the back door. They were on the right side of the house if you are looking at the house from the lake.

If they are still there do you have the nerve to go look and see if they are wired or rope binded?

There was about 4 bales or more stacked up there.

Did they grow any new grass recently in their yard or do they have a veggie garden that they might use straw to cover the veggie bed with to keep weeds down.

I did notice the straw bales were discolored and that happens when they sit outdoors over winter. (the straw gets grayish)

[analytical]

Thanks for the photo links, Artie.

And yesterday I asked you if the houses for sale are all ower-occupied and what is the proximity of the house under construction to the Coleman house?

If it's true that the "guts" of a camera were found in the lake, it had to be a camera from the back of the home lending support to the entry from the rear through the window where there was reported to be no signs of forced entry.

Then the suspect may have left on foot and tossed the "guts" into the lake.

Artie .. if on foot, how far would the suspect have to travel on foot to get to a parked car or an accomplice waiting from him in a vehicle?

[mikeysmommom]

nancy has it on.................think maybe they figure with it on tv now maybe more leads will come in?maybe thats why they are waiting.

[Wrinkles]

Hello All,

SewingDeb,
So good to see you :blowkiss:

I cannot get those links -- I see photo not available?

HALP?

In the meanwhile, SeriouslySearching and Medusa, did you two find those graphics?

Hmmm, I just seriously hope that anything on those bales, whatever was on them (and if they were carried into the police) shows SPECIFIC information, not maybes. If these were "trash can bales" or "target bales" I just HOPE that the evidence on them works to help box the murderer in.

W

PS. Hey Adnoid, good to see you in here. Yup...any type of archery makes me think of hay bales -- there are a few at our neighbors! Used them when I was a kid... But do people use certain types of spray paint on them these days instead of the old pin-up bulls eyes?

[adnoid]

You're quicker on the draw than I am. Do you know if they can match a particular bow string to a particular type of bow?

I wonder if a bow string could leave any trace evidence behind on Sheri or the boys. I hope that he knocked them out before he did it. What kind of monster would do this to his family?

I have no idea, sorry.

[mikeysmommom]

Nancy is on

[mikeysmommom]

Nancy has on about the colemans

[daisy.faithfull]

Oh DaisyF,

You could be righter -- did the Coleman family have a trash bailer in their home? It was "trash day that day." Did the police grab bails of trash in their trash can. Good thinking. I could be completely wrong -- that is why I asked.

What could these "bales" mean?

W

Edit: bailer = baler (misspelling?)

I don't know. IIRC they did mention that they found clothes that were possibly linked to the killer in a neighbor's dumpster. Its possible that they are looking at other dumpsters to see if he tossed anything else out. Artie Gumshoe, are any of your neighbors missing their garbage cans?:crazy:

[daisy.faithfull]

I am really glad to hear that. The thought he could take off just makes me sick.

I don't think that he is going anywhere, but I wonder if they took his passport.

[SeriouslySearching]

In the meanwhile, SeriouslySearching and Medusa, did you two find those graphics?

Hmmm, I just seriously hope that anything on those bales, whatever was on them (and if they were carried into the police) shows SPECIFIC information, not maybes. If these were "trash can bales" or "target bales" I just HOPE that the evidence on them works to help box the murderer in.

W

PS. Hey Adnoid, good to see you in here. Yup...any type of archery makes me think of hay bales -- there are a few at our neighbors! Used them when I was a kid... But do people use certain types of spray paint on them these days instead of the old pin-up bulls eyes?No and I have checked every darn slideshow on every darn news site. (Maybe Chester and I both saw them on a video~)

The bales are used for Halloween decorations, too. ;)

[Searchfortruth]

Some LE official speaking on NG said, "we do not feel this was a random act, it was an intentional act against this family". Don't want to release their person of interest/suspect yet, don't want to rush in this.

[gitana1]

Here we go. Klaas will talk about Chris' unwillingness to give fingerprints, etc.

[mikeysmommom]

Nancy is ON

[gitana1]

I'm talking about NG right now.

[Wrinkles]

Thinking about bales, baling wire etc.

IF that was used, then any gloves (rumored) to have been found might have been the type that would have kept hands safe from being torn up by the wire while it was in use -- not rubber gloves, leather gloves? And if the baling wire that was on the bits outside the house was also in the house, and if there were gloves missing for use for this type of chore -- and don't they have cutters for this type of chore? wonder if that is what was tossed on the side of the highway?

So what did NG have to say (and thank you Nancy for doing your part to help with this!)

W

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks for the photo links, Artie.

And yesterday I asked you if the houses for sale are all ower-occupied and what is the proximity of the house under construction to the Coleman house?

If it's true that the "guts" of a camera were found in the lake, it had to be a camera from the back of the home lending support to the entry from the rear through the window where there was reported to be no signs of forced entry.

Then the suspect may have left on foot and tossed the "guts" into the lake.

Artie .. if on foot, how far would the suspect have to travel on foot to get to a parked car or an accomplice waiting from him in a vehicle?His driveway?!

[mikeysmommom]

just like a whole list of guys willing to kill family for a loose woman per Mark KLAASS

[gitana1]

See? IMO innocent people offer evidence. They don't require a court order.

[mikeysmommom]

She is asking what he did for JMM

[Wrinkles]

Gitana1

thanks for hanging with us -- saw you earlier, appreciated your input.

W

[gitana1]

just like a whole list of guys willing to kill family for a loose woman per Mark KLAASS

Loved that. So it's not just us here on WS. Guess we're not crazy. Mr. Klaas, who is very educated about crimes/criminals, NG and most of the callers seem to agree this guy killed his family. And the LE on the air who is investigating this case is not contradicting that hypothesis at all.

[KaylynnCouture]

Nancy Grace: "Moms family says Chris did not call until 2 days after the bodies were found"

That's pretty interesting, IMO.

[SeriouslySearching]

The writing on the wall is not exactly what is going around in the press. Connor won't say what the message says tho (he also seemed to indicate there could be more than one). GRRRR~

[mikeysmommom]

There is just something so assuring when Cutie Connor talks about getting the perp......or is it just me.

[jnTexas]

Sheriff is saying the statement reported to be on the wall is not accurate.
nancy asked him if the statement on the wall "I told you this would happen" is close to what was written.
Sheriff said: That is not exactly what was written on the wall.
Nancy: was it close major
Sheriff: yes. there were threats towards the family.

[Wrinkles]

Hello SeriouslyS,

Per:
>>how far would the suspect have to travel on foot to get to a parked car or an accomplice waiting from him in a vehicle?<<


His driveway?!

UH HUH :( His hands were his accomplice.

W

[daisy.faithfull]

within the last previous pages, I believe

first time I'd read anywhere of the discovery of anything other than the rumored DVR

Hey Wrinkles...
I think that I know what Analytical is talking about. It was an article that was written towards the beginning-ish of the case. I can go hunt for it if you want.:)

[mikeysmommom]

Loved that. So it's not just us here on WS. Guess we're not crazy. Mr. Klaas, who is very educated about crimes/criminals, NG and most of the callers seem to agree this guy killed his family. And the LE on the air who is investigating this case is not contradicting that hypothesis at all.

Me too, No we are not on a witch hunt just a Justice hunt...He did everything wrong(Thank God)from the start he should just wear a kick me I am guilty sign......LOL

[daisy.faithfull]

Artie... can you see if there are still bales of straw near the back door. They were on the right side of the house if you are looking at the house from the lake.

If they are still there do you have the nerve to go look and see if they are wired or rope binded?

There was about 4 bales or more stacked up there.

Did they grow any new grass recently in their yard or do they have a veggie garden that they might use straw to cover the veggie bed with to keep weeds down.

I did notice the straw bales were discolored and that happens when they sit outdoors over winter. (the straw gets grayish)

Be seriously careful you guys, we don't want some a****** defense attorney trying to make a scapegoat out of you. Just be careful, another good intentioned neighbor could misinterpret what you are doing and tell someone.

[gitana1]

Gitana1

thanks for hanging with us -- saw you earlier, appreciated your input.

W

Your welcome! Years of researching these cases makes us here uniquely in tune with what the bad guy looks like, IMO. Although there have been mistakes made. One recent case comes to mind where many were immediately suspecting the parents but it was not the case. But, the suspicion does not last with us usually if evidence to the contrary is presented. No such evidence has been presented here that does not look like staging to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
I don't know what is worse, a nut job stalking and destroying a family or a trusted husband and father destroying his own loved ones. Based on what I have seen, I think it's clear that the latter is the case here.
It's a tragedy that is so avoidable. That's what really kills me. It seems these guys feel they will look "bad" if they divorce their spouses, leave their kids and go off with a mistress, or if their secret comes out (thinking of Hacking). Don't they realize that they will get caught? Don't they realize that being branded a murderer is so much worse? To me one of the worst things imaginable is to be struck down by one's own husband when you think you can trust him and that he loves you like you love him. How the heck can anyone protect against such a thing? And then to have that monster kill your babies? I'm sick to my stomach.

[Wrinkles]

Hmmm....

SS where did you hear/see this? On NG from whom?
>>The writing on the wall is not exactly what is going around in the press. Connor won't say what the message says tho (he also seemed to indicate there could be more than one). GRRRR~<<

So...when the family went in to get Chris' clothes, they might have had to face this writing. Do you suppose the handwriting analysts have been called in?

So...per our jnTexas report in hearing NG:

>>Sheriff is saying the statement reported to be on the wall is not accurate.
nancy asked him if the statement on the wall "I told you this would happen" is close to what was written.
Sheriff said: That is not exactly what was written on the wall.
Nancy: was it close major
Sheriff: yes. there were threats towards the family. <<

So the perp tried to make it look like the threatener was still threatening?

Maybe there was something like, "I missed you this time bubba, but I'll get you next time?" :bang:

W

[daisy.faithfull]

There is just something so assuring when Cutie Connor talks about getting the perp......or is it just me.

Who's Cutie Conner?

[mikeysmommom]

Nancy is ON

I posted a couple of times that nancy was on and it seemed no one was listening.LOL I know your watching nancy i think my post was time delayed.

[mikeysmommom]

Who's Cutie Conner?

Major Conner the guy from the MSC who was talking at press conf.

[mikeysmommom]

Nancy goes crazy at court order

[jnTexas]

Nancy: Major Connor was there forced entry?
Major: there was some damage to the screen but the wondow was open.
Nancy: was it forced open?
Major: There's no indication it was forced open.

(I dvred Nancy and I'm going back over it to post)

[Searchfortruth]

Your welcome! Years of researching these cases makes us here uniquely in tune with what the bad guy looks like, IMO. Although there have been mistakes made. One recent case comes to mind where many were immediately suspecting the parents but it was not the case. But, the suspicion does not last with us usually if evidence to the contrary is presented. No such evidence has been presented here that does not look like staging to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
I don't know what is worse, a nut job stalking and destroying a family or a trusted husband and father destroying his own loved ones. Based on what I have seen, I think it's clear that the latter is the case here.
It's a tragedy that is so avoidable. That's what really kills me. It seems these guys feel they will look "bad" if they divorce their spouses, leave their kids and go off with a mistress, or if their secret comes out (thinking of Hacking). Don't they realize that they will get caught? Don't they realize that being branded a murderer is so much worse? To me one of the worst things imaginable is to be struck down by one's own husband when you think you can trust him and that he loves you like you love him. How the heck can anyone protect against such a thing? And then to have that monster kill your babies? I'm sick to my stomach.I so agree, for a person in a position of trust to do this, IMO, it's the ultimate betrayal.

[analytical]

Nancy Grace: "Moms family says Chris did not call until 2 days after the bodies were found"

That's pretty interesting, IMO.

Maybe not. There could be some family strain pre-existent. Sheri was raised in Florida, her brother and mother remain in Chicago and I believe she was born there and "the family" moved to Florida when she was a child. So it seems Sheri stayed in Florida (after the divorce?) and was raised by her father.

Someone has posted here whose child was in school with Sheri. Perhaps she could say who the parent was Sheri was raised by in Florida.

Family rifts can run deep and wide.

[mikeysmommom]

Stripper girlfriend a big marriage problem hmmmmmmmmm no time of death yet.

[analytical]

Hey Wrinkles...
I think that I know what Analytical is talking about. It was an article that was written towards the beginning-ish of the case. I can go hunt for it if you want.:)

No, as I've stated several times .. IT IS IN THIS THREAD!

I read about it in this thread.

[SeriouslySearching]

Maybe not. There could be some family strain pre-existent. Sheri was raised in Florida, her brother and mother remain in Chicago and I believe she was born there and "the family" moved to Florida when she was a child. So it seems Sheri stayed in Florida (after the divorce?) and was raised by her father.

Someone has posted here whose child was in school with Sheri. Perhaps she could say who the parent was Sheri was raised by in Florida.

Family rifts can run deep and wide.It doesn't excuse that he could have asked someone from his family or even his attorney to notify her family. It was the RIGHT thing to do instead of waiting two days...and risking them seeing it on the news.

[Wrinkles]

About Major Conner (Connor sp?),

He is the gent who has been working along with his task force -- so hard in this -- the one who did the press conference today.

He is attractive -- what attracts me to him is his confidence that he has busted the murderer of a woman and her children and he is not in doubt about what he knows.

I looked at his face and his eyes over and over when he said this (hoping I get the quote right, but not exactly sure):

>>Our investigation, to me, reveals who's responsible for these deaths. I'll leave it at that.<<

His face and eyes were meant to be clear to ALL onlookers, including the perp and his attornies.

W

[KaylynnCouture]

Maybe not. There could be some family strain pre-existent. Sheri was raised in Florida, her brother and mother remain in Chicago and I believe she was born there and "the family" moved to Florida when she was a child. So it seems Sheri stayed in Florida (after the divorce?) and was raised by her father.

Someone has posted here whose child was in school with Sheri. Perhaps she could say who the parent was Sheri was raised by in Florida.

Family rifts can run deep and wide.

Thankfully, I get along with my husbands family very well. However, even if we had the most horrible relationship imaginable..but my children and husband (their grandchildren and son) were found murdered, I would call them that very day...I find it really odd that two days later he "got around to" calling his inlaws. No matter how much you may hate them..they're still your childrens grandparents, and they're still your wifes parents.

[SeriouslySearching]

No, as I've stated several times .. IT IS IN THIS THREAD!

I read about it in this thread.Perhaps it was someone speculating...because I don't recall reading anything about the guts of a camera being found anywhere. (Or I may have missed it because I left for awhile. LOL)

[SeriouslySearching]

Wrinkles~ I like Major Connor, too. (But I am not starting another fan club around here. ;) )

[mikeysmommom]

Your welcome! Years of researching these cases makes us here uniquely in tune with what the bad guy looks like, IMO. Although there have been mistakes made. One recent case comes to mind where many were immediately suspecting the parents but it was not the case. But, the suspicion does not last with us usually if evidence to the contrary is presented. No such evidence has been presented here that does not look like staging to me. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
I don't know what is worse, a nut job stalking and destroying a family or a trusted husband and father destroying his own loved ones. Based on what I have seen, I think it's clear that the latter is the case here.
It's a tragedy that is so avoidable. That's what really kills me. It seems these guys feel they will look "bad" if they divorce their spouses, leave their kids and go off with a mistress, or if their secret comes out (thinking of Hacking). Don't they realize that they will get caught? Don't they realize that being branded a murderer is so much worse? To me one of the worst things imaginable is to be struck down by one's own husband when you think you can trust him and that he loves you like you love him. How the heck can anyone protect against such a thing? And then to have that monster kill your babies? I'm sick to my stomach.

I feel the same way to be sleeping with the enemy and not have a clue.I just hope they did not suffer and I am praying she did not know he was going to kill her babies. He was staging this for months IMO.

[jnTexas]

Nancy: Major can you tell me is the husband cooperating did he voluntarily give statements fingerprints?
Major: I really don't want to get into any of the statements or what he did or did not do.

[analytical]

Ummmm..... I think you're way ahead on the "bales" .. maybe reviewing the press conference will give a clearer understanding.

I did not get any idea of "hay bales" at all but "baled packages"

I'll go listen again ... a truck pulled up and unloaded them ..

Going on the property to see if they are there, IMO, is not a wise move ..especially to do so and "report back" here.

Just IMO

[gitana1]

Maybe not. There could be some family strain pre-existent. Sheri was raised in Florida, her brother and mother remain in Chicago and I believe she was born there and "the family" moved to Florida when she was a child. So it seems Sheri stayed in Florida (after the divorce?) and was raised by her father.

Someone has posted here whose child was in school with Sheri. Perhaps she could say who the parent was Sheri was raised by in Florida.

Family rifts can run deep and wide.

Yes, but I've dealt with death before and in my experience, after freaking out, the first response is to gather and notify all the family and friends of the decedent. Regardless of any rift. Further, if Sheri had a rift, that doesn't mean Chris did. It makes no sense at all that he would fail to notify that family for two whole days. Your mind just goes to all those who were closely connected to the person who died. It just makes no sense to me rift or no. What really stands out too is that some guilty people tend to behave just like that, delaying notification or not wanting to be with the family of the decedent. I've never ever heard of an innocent person behaving like that. It just doesn't compute.

[analytical]

The writing on the wall is not exactly what is going around in the press. Connor won't say what the message says tho (he also seemed to indicate there could be more than one). GRRRR~

Where did he indicate there was more than one message on the wall? I never heard that and I saw the presser several times.

Channel change time ... just cannot tolerate NG. :crazy:

[SeriouslySearching]

Off Topic: Amber Alert for 4 yo female out of south Texas from 9:00pm last night: Lesley Perez. (Marc Klaas is all over it on NG) Have a POI in custody.

7 hour delay on the AA. GRRRRR! :furious:

An offer to help Marc Klaas revise the AA (if I can just get him to read this!): Marc Klaas Calls For An Amber Alert Revision - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

[adnoid]

See? IMO innocent people offer evidence. They don't require a court order.

Absolutely.

[jnTexas]

Where did he indicate there was more than one message on the wall? I never heard that and I saw the presser several times.

Channel change time ... just cannot tolerate NG. :crazy:

I think he stated that on nancy maybe? not sure?

Add: I went back on the Nancy show:

Major said " There were some messages on the walls inside"

So that tells me more than one message more than one wall.

[Wrinkles]

Hello SeriouslySearching,

You wrote:
>>Perhaps it was someone speculating...because I don't recall reading anything about the guts of a camera being found anywhere. (Or I may have missed it because I left for awhile. LOL)<<

I might have a tendency to agree -- because I don't recall reading that in the threads on this case. Perhaps the person who mentioned that could do their due diligence to find it ;)

At anyrate, about the fan club. I am a fan club member of my husband (enough fan clubs for me) who told me a few days ago, "I don't think I would hire a defense attorney if you were murdered. If people came up to me and said, 'We know she was driving you crazy and we think you murdered her' he would say, 'You are 50% right!'"

Personally, an attractive man or woman is one who is strong in their convictions, particularly when they are on the side of "good." Being attracted doesn't mean starting a fan club for me -- but I sure appreciate that confidence and strength of character.

W

[adnoid]

Nancy: Major can you tell me is the husband cooperating did he voluntarily give statements fingerprints?
Major: I really don't want to get into any of the statements or what he did or did not do.

We'll put that down as a "no".

[Lovejac]

To whomever changed the title to this thread, thank you! :blowkiss:

[mikeysmommom]

Yes, but I've dealt with death before and in my experience, after freaking out, the first response is to gather and notify all the family and friends of the decedent. Regardless of any rift. Further, if Sheri had a rift, that doesn't mean Chris did. It makes no sense at all that he would fail to notify that family for two whole days. Your mind just goes to all those who were closely connected to the person who died. It just makes no sense to me rift or no. What really stands out too is that some guilty people tend to behave just like that, delaying notification or not wanting to be with the family of the decedent. I've never ever heard of an innocent person behaving like that. It just doesn't compute.

We had a lot of deaths in my husbands family, 7 brothers and sisters so in his family a feud is going on at any given time someone isnt talking to another but anytime some ones dies, they all gather and cry together.Thats usually when you reflect and realize the people you arent talking to might be the next to go.For him to not call her mom and dad for 2 days and then he tried to cheat her family out of saying good bye screams to his guilt it is just not normal.Seems like he wanted to hide from them.Just making them have to go to court at a time they are in shock and grieving is a scummy thing to do IMO it shows alot.

[SeriouslySearching]

Where did he indicate there was more than one message on the wall? I never heard that and I saw the presser several times.

Channel change time ... just cannot tolerate NG. :crazy:Sorry...it was on Nancy Grace. It will be in the transcripts, but in the meantime I will watch it again on my dvr and see what he did say for certain. :) I am curious if I heard it correctly myself.

Lemme finish my martini first. ;)

[Lindadanette]

Maybe not. There could be some family strain pre-existent. Sheri was raised in Florida, her brother and mother remain in Chicago and I believe she was born there and "the family" moved to Florida when she was a child. So it seems Sheri stayed in Florida (after the divorce?) and was raised by her father.

Someone has posted here whose child was in school with Sheri. Perhaps she could say who the parent was Sheri was raised by in Florida.

Family rifts can run deep and wide.

Hi - My son went to school with Sheri. IIRC, She was raised by her dad, Donald Weiss. I do not know if he re-married and there was a stepmom.

[jnTexas]

Hi - My son went to school with Sheri. IIRC, She was raised by her dad, Donald Weiss. I do not know if he re-married and there was a stepmom.

Wonder if he contacted the Dad and just not the Mother?

[Wrinkles]

As a note...

I am almost sick to say this because I really loathe severe illness that needs treatment and is only worsened by stress such as this, but it was something I noticed and I so hope I am wrong. I hope this wasn't coaching by a criminal defense attorney...

I remember Jackie Peterson showing up in wheelchair and oxygen.

Was today, in Chester, the type of weather that you would be wearing short pants and short sleeves?

W

[SeriouslySearching]

Hello SeriouslySearching,

At anyrate, about the fan club. I am a fan club member of my husband (enough fan clubs for me) who told me a few days ago, "I don't think I would hire a defense attorney if you were murdered. If people came up to me and said, 'We know she was driving you crazy and we think you murdered her' he would say, 'You are 50% right!'"

Personally, an attractive man or woman is one who is strong in their convictions, particularly when they are on the side of "good." Being attracted doesn't mean starting a fan club for me -- but I sure appreciate that confidence and strength of character.

WLOL Well...it is an inside joke here actually. I started a fan club for Yuri Melich, (lead detective in the Anthony case) as a joke and it took off like wildfire. (I even made the news. Hahahaha~ ) His determination, confidence, and the way he handled himself with the biggest liar on the face of the earth certainly made my top ten Hero list. Not to mention...he is hot. LOL

Tell hubby an answer like that could get him life if they can't figure out quickly which 50% he is admitting to! :behindbar

[Wrinkles]

Hello LindaDanette,

Thanks for working on the info from your end. Looking forward to more of what you hear, and have appreciated what you have checked upon.

W

[mikeysmommom]

About Major Conner (Connor sp?),

He is the gent who has been working along with his task force -- so hard in this -- the one who did the press conference today.

He is attractive -- what attracts me to him is his confidence that he has busted the murderer of a woman and her children and he is not in doubt about what he knows.

I looked at his face and his eyes over and over when he said this (hoping I get the quote right, but not exactly sure):

>>Our investigation, to me, reveals who's responsible for these deaths. I'll leave it at that.<<

His face and eyes were meant to be clear to ALL onlookers, including the perp and his attornies.

W

Thats what I meant but you said it so much better then I.

[Lindadanette]

Wonder if he contacted the Dad and just not the Mother?

I would think his mother or father would have made sure that both were called, even offered to do it for him. His dad is a preacher, you would think that his pastoral training would make sure that these communications were taken care of. :confused:

[Wrinkles]

Hello SeriouslyS,

You wrote:
>>Tell hubby an answer like that could get him life if they can't figure out quickly which 50% he is admitting to! <<

We have no young children to raise and, although my husband wants to be around to tend to our children and grandchildren, he has told me that if anything were to happen to me he just wouldn't care what happened to him. I believe he would probably stop taking his heart medication and get a magnet to disarm his defibrillator, seriously.

W

[WholeLottaRosie]

OMG.... Bale type things!

Thinking of Bale wire here. If he used bale wire to strangle them with he may have nearly cut their heads off with it. It's very thin and strong.


I also saw a stack of straw by the back door of the house in videos. About 4 bales stacked up.

Some people still use bale wire in the area but it could have been bale rope also around the bales of straw.

We have straw for the garden/animals and it comes with a plastic flat cord tying it together. Just asked DH and he said it has been that way for some years now. Sometimes we pick it up at a local garden center, but mostly we go out in the country, actually in the outskirts of Columbia to a farmer he knows.

[analytical]

I was mistaken .. sorry. I thought I'd only read in this thread tonight.

The comment about the camera "guts" is here .. by poster "barb"

http://www.bnd.com/homepage/story/767039.html?pageNum=2&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container

[Wrinkles]

Greetings all,

I think we can speculate forever on family rifts being a reason why Chris did not contact Sheri's mother -- but I think that we are all fairly clear why he really did not.

W

[analytical]

Hi - My son went to school with Sheri. IIRC, She was raised by her dad, Donald Weiss. I do not know if he re-married and there was a stepmom.

Thanks!

[analytical]

Greetings all,

I think we can speculate forever on family rifts being a reason why Chris did not contact Sheri's mother -- but I think that we are all fairly clear why he really did not.

W

"all" does not include me :)

[pferrin]

There were two bales of hay sitting right behind the Coleman house. I recall seeing them in the photo of the window, door, and two detectives. Let me find it~

My first thought of the bales when I saw them were how out of place they appeared to be in that setting. It is the only reason I remembered them now.

Seriously, I found the video of the bales..the officers are next to them by the back door and window. I am not sure how to link. It is video #18 fox2now.com

[jnTexas]

Found this comment:

bellburgmaggie wrote on 5/13/2009 7:14:24 PM:
He alledgedly killed his wife, then took the kids out for ice cream and then killed them. The bodies were cold when EMS arrived and I doubt it was from the ice cream. As far a property values go, the people on that street are SOL, unless they tear down that house of horror and turn the site into a park. No one is ever going to buy it.

http://www.bnd.com/100/story/767039.html

Not sure if this has been posted. this woud fit in with the 11 hours. I surely hope he didn't do that.

[Wrinkles]

Hello Analytical,

Thanks for working on that. It can be difficult to keep track of everything and references, but the references really seem to be important -- or so they do to me.

Again, thanks for digging for that.

W

[chestergal]

I didn't ask Artie to move them and asked him to take a look. (meaning look but don't touch or take your camera with you and stand at the lake shore and zoom in on the straw bales to see what type of material was used to bind them - I think Artie is smart enough to figure that out)

The house backs up to subdivision lake and that means everyone has access to the lake from any part of the shore. (It's called common ground at the lake shore)

The crime scene has been released and it is no longer considered a active crime scene.

Maybe they used the term packages because someone wanted to throw someone off by what they were talking about. Yes... there might be baled packages but there is also baled straw bundles (packages) near the back door of the house. I saw them on the video.

Straw is used for target practice, spreading over dirt to grow grass, Halloween decorations, and for laying over garden beds to keep the weeds down, etc. Hay on the other hand is not used for this because it contains weed seeds in it, straw does not. Straw comes from the bottom part of wheat stalks (winter wheat in this area) - hay comes for grass that is grown high and then baled and then it is used for cheap farm animal feed. Farm Animals and horses do not eat straw but they do eat hay. Both Straw and Hay are baled into cube packages and tied off by using thin baling wire or strong rope twine.


Ummmm..... I think you're way ahead on the "bales" .. maybe reviewing the press conference will give a clearer understanding.

I did not get any idea of "hay bales" at all but "baled packages"

I'll go listen again ... a truck pulled up and unloaded them ..

Going on the property to see if they are there, IMO, is not a wise move ..especially to do so and "report back" here.

Just IMO

[ckwood32]

OK haven't had time to read through all of the posts. But - if Chris didn't do it (which I think he did) the only plausible explanation is that perhaps it was a Fatal Attraction situation - the girlfriend in Florida (or where ever else more are located at) was so obsessed with him they did it. Don't buy it. Why else would someone STRANGLE 2 helpless children.

[ckwood32]

I understand being questionable about posts - but Analyticle you seem so supportive of Chris - what do you know that we don't know?

[Wrinkles]

Hello Pferrin,

I'm not able to find those on fox2now.com

Could you give me a step by step how you found those? 1. Go here, 2. do this 3. do that

Use the names of links given if you can, okay? Would be so helpful if you could do this.

Thanks a ton and BTW, welcome to WS!

W

[KaylynnCouture]

I understand being questionable about posts - but Analyticle you seem so supportive of Chris - what do you know that we don't know?

I asked him/her yesterday (I think it was) what exactly their feelings on this case were..but I never got a response (or the post was skipped over). I'd still love to know though.

[jnTexas]

I didn't ask Artie to move them and asked him to take a look. (meaning look but don't touch or take your camera with you and stand at the lake shore and zoom in on the straw bales to see what type of material was used to bind them - I think Artie is smart enough to figure that out)

The house backs up to subdivision lake and that means everyone has access to the lake from any part of the shore. (It's called common ground at the lake shore)

The crime scene has been released and it is no longer considered a active crime scene.

Maybe they used the term packages because someone wanted to throw someone off by what they were talking about. Yes... there might be baled packages but there is also baled straw bundles (packages) near the back door of the house. I saw them on the video.

Straw is used for target practice, spreading over dirt to grow grass, Halloween decorations, and for laying over garden beds to keep the weeds down, etc. Hay on the other hand is not used for this because it contains weed seeds in it, straw does not. Straw comes from the bottom part of wheat stalks (winter wheat in this area) - hay comes for grass that is grown high and then baled and then it is used for cheap farm animal feed. Farm Animals and horses do not eat straw but they do eat hay. Both Straw and Hay are baled into cube packages and tied off by using thin baling wire or strong rope twine.


My husband and son use bales for bow target practice. They spray paint targets on them. Cheap way to practice in the backyard.

[chestergal]

As a note...

I am almost sick to say this because I really loathe severe illness that needs treatment and is only worsened by stress such as this, but it was something I noticed and I so hope I am wrong. I hope this wasn't coaching by a criminal defense attorney...

I remember Jackie Peterson showing up in wheelchair and oxygen.

Was today, in Chester, the type of weather that you would be wearing short pants and short sleeves?

W

Yes... I got up to 80F+ and it was humid and sticky because of storms coming in.

[daisy.faithfull]

No, as I've stated several times .. IT IS IN THIS THREAD!

I read about it in this thread.

You're so silly! :) I know which one you are talking about, but I wanted to see the article that came out regarding the camera towards the beginning of the case. If you want you can go grab that one, but I'm actually having a good time running through all of the posts that we've made, its actually verrrrry impressive. :)

[WholeLottaRosie]

[QUOTE=Wrinkles;3737689]Hello Gang...

SeriouslySearching TOTE THAT BALE :) oops I mean, I hope you find those graphics with bales :blowkiss:

Medusa, you wrote:
>>I saw a clip on the news of a cop caring a bale thing - it was white, covered in what looked like plastic tape, maybe red. I didn't pay that much attention. Would have been on Fox 2.<<

Medusa, can you find this? I would like to see the size of these things, particularly in reference to what SS finds. QUOTE]

I am still trying. It was on the news tonight at 5 - George Sells finishes the piece standing in front of the Columbia PD, and the camera man panned the parking lot. Two men were walking to cars, one carrying the bale thing - he was at the trunk of car but hadn't opened yet, other man walked to another car. On the clip on the site now, it cuts off and goes to a black screen saying Murder Investigation.

Will keep looking. It looked light from the way he was carrying it, but, about the size of a cooler?

[daisy.faithfull]

No, as I've stated several times .. IT IS IN THIS THREAD!

I read about it in this thread.

You're so silly! :) I know which one you are talking about, but I wanted to see the article that came out regarding the camera towards the beginning of the case. If you want you can go grab that one, but I'm actually having a good time running through all of the posts that we've made, its actually verrrrry impressive. :)

I'm off to search againnnnnnnnnnnnn (can you see my WS cape flapping as I fly? :crazy:)

[SeriouslySearching]

I was mistaken .. sorry. I thought I'd only read in this thread tonight.

The comment about the camera "guts" is here .. by poster "barb"

http://www.bnd.com/homepage/story/767039.html?pageNum=2&&&&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_ContainerThank Goodness! I thought my short term memory had left me again. Whew~ :blowkiss:

[WholeLottaRosie]

I don't think that he is going anywhere, but I wonder if they took his passport.


Really. DH was just saying he hopes they did so Daddy or Joyce doesn't send him on a mission trip.

[SeriouslySearching]

You're so silly! :) I know which one you are talking about, but I wanted to see the article that came out regarding the camera towards the beginning of the case. If you want you can go grab that one, but I'm actually having a good time running through all of the posts that we've made, its actually verrrrry impressive. :)

I'm off to search againnnnnnnnnnnnn (can you see my WS cape flapping as I fly? :crazy:)Yes, I can! Uhm...you may want to put something on underneath it tho. ;)

I looked at the beginning of the first thread and we had this nailed within the first few hours. WSers are awesome. They should really hire us out. We could be consultants for cheap. Hahahah...hmmm...Oh, wait...we already are! LE reads here to get their helpful hints for free.

[Lindadanette]

Sheriff is saying the statement reported to be on the wall is not accurate.
nancy asked him if the statement on the wall "I told you this would happen" is close to what was written.
Sheriff said: That is not exactly what was written on the wall.
Nancy: was it close major
Sheriff: yes. there were threats towards the family.

Hmmmm...... "You made this happen", "JM made this happen", "I warned you"?

[Wrinkles]

Hello Adnoid,

A little off thread here, but if you are lurking -- is there a way to search this site for all "specific" posts which contain a certain word? Everytime I search, I can find a huge thread, but not the specific posts :( Sorry to seem so dumb.

Thanks in advance.

W

[Wrinkles]

HOLY SMOKES LINDADANETTE,

You heard this?
>>Hmmmm...... "You made this happen", "JM made this happen", "I warned you?" <<

Is this as if "You wanted me to work there instead of starting my own business, if I had started my own business I wouldn't have been travelling, if you had just let me do what I wanted I wouldn't have done this."??

W

[SeriouslySearching]

Really. DH was just saying he hopes they did so Daddy or Joyce doesn't send him on a mission trip.I guess I will take a pass on going to Joyce's 3 day stint here this week since Chris won't be attending. Altho...I have considered going and getting reactions from her faithful following to this bit of concerning developments within her organization. I think it would make a lovely article for WS along with photos of their jaws dropped onto the BOK arena floor and the horror in their eyes before they listened to JM. hehehe

[Wrinkles]

Now then...bring out the handwriting analysts...

And where are those handwritten threats, those crucial pieces of info (sorry for the sarcasm) that match the handwriting on the wall to that in the notes.

W

[pferrin]

Hello Pferrin,

I'm not able to find those on fox2now.com

Could you give me a step by step how you found those? 1. Go here, 2. do this 3. do that

Use the names of links given if you can, okay? Would be so helpful if you could do this.

Thanks a ton and BTW, welcome to WS!

W

Ok Wrinkles. thread #1 your post #177 is link to fox2now when you get there ... next to the video screen are more videos available ..go to Page#17 at the bottom of these 4 videos is the video showing the little blue crosses that were placed in the Colemans front yard. Click on that video. It will show the bales next to the back door. One day could you teach me to link, Please?

[SeriouslySearching]

Hmmmm...... "You made this happen", "JM made this happen", "I warned you"?Wrinkles~ I think she is just tossing out ideas near to what could have been painted on the wall. Right, Linda?

[analytical]

Thank Goodness! I thought my short term memory had left me again. Whew~ :blowkiss:

Mine did on this. Sorry for the confusion. I usually only read one source at a time :crazy:

[Wrinkles]

BTW, while this thread is a tad slow...

Did everyone see the quote I posted earlier from this article: (http://www.bnd.com/100/story/767039.html)

>>Around 2 p.m. Wednesday Chris Coleman was visited for more than 30 minutes at his father's home by Roby Walker, spokesman for Joyce Meyer Ministries. Coleman is security chief for Meyer, who is an evangelist. Walker was not immediately available for comment.<<

[SeriouslySearching]

Ok Wrinkles. thread #1 your post #177 is link to fox2now when you get there ... next to the video screen are more videos available ..go to Page#17 at the bottom of these 4 videos is the video showing the little blue crosses that were placed in the Colemans front yard. Click on that video. It will show the bales next to the back door. One day could you teach me to link, Please?Easy. Go to the top of the page where the address is then copy and paste it into here. Thanks for finding the video for us! Hugs~ I looked for that stupid photo for 30 minutes!