View Full Version : 2009.05.22 Hearing to request reduced bond for Peterson
Paintr
05-22-2009, 09:18 AM
http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2009/05/22/updates/breaking_news/doc4a1693680514a557098218.txt
JOLIET, Ill. | Drew Peterson is headed back to court as his attorneys ask a judge to reduce his $20 million bond.
A judge will hear arguments Friday afternoon over whether the former Bolingbrook police sergeant's bond should be reduced, allowing him a chance to get out of jail pending trial.
Paintr
05-22-2009, 09:28 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=295488&src=2
Brodsky plans to ask the judge to reduce Peterson's bond to less than $500,000. He called Peterson a "model client" with a good civic record who never fled despite traveling to places such as California, Florida and Mexico during the long probe.
Brodsky also said the four-member defense team has not ruled out asking that a special prosecutor be brought in since Peterson, as a former cop, has worked alongside some of those who are seeking his conviction.
"We are going to fight this case every step of the way," Brodsky said. "We're going to see him exonerated and walk out the courthouse a free man."
Prosecutors and the women's families oppose any bond reduction.
songline
05-22-2009, 09:30 AM
http://www.thetimesonline.com/articles/2009/05/22/updates/breaking_news/doc4a1693680514a557098218.txt
JOLIET, Ill. | Drew Peterson is headed back to court as his attorneys ask a judge to reduce his $20 million bond.
A judge will hear arguments Friday afternoon over whether the former Bolingbrook police sergeant's bond should be reduced, allowing him a chance to get out of jail pending trial.
with two dead wives I think they should increase his bail.
No chance to go anywhere, cause he is capable of doing something slimy and slick. :behindbar safe place for him.
scandi
05-22-2009, 09:59 AM
Good Morning Paintr, The bail is set against a charge on Kathleen, so I'm wondering if there will be consideration given by the judge to not reduce jail with the fact a body has been found which might be Stacy. Ta, and thanks for the O/P.
Paintr
05-22-2009, 10:11 AM
Good Morning Paintr, The bail is set against a charge on Kathleen, so I'm wondering if there will be consideration given by the judge to not reduce jail with the fact a body has been found which might be Stacy. Ta, and thanks for the O/P.
Good morning, scandi.:) I am hoping that bond stays just as is or it is decided there should be no bond. LE is being cautious in the media, but I wonder if they have a better idea if the remains found are Stacy, than they are saying. If evidence is indeed leaning towards this being Stacy, I hope that can be taken into account, even if that can't be announced publically.
scandi
05-22-2009, 10:18 AM
ITA Paintr, Do you know if there will be arguments on each side or will the judge already have her mind made up?
Paintr
05-22-2009, 10:44 AM
ITA Paintr, Do you know if there will be arguments on each side or will the judge already have her mind made up?
If it follows other bond hearings, there will be arguments, at least submitted on paper to the judge. I wonder if the judge will delay giving a decision, pending the DNA results on the remains. I doubt it tho because, even if this is Stacy, there is probably no evidence with the remains to directly implicate Drew.
The results of this hearing should be interesting. There must have been compelling evidence to grant the original high bond. Wonder if we will hear any of the reasons it was set so high.
faefrost
05-22-2009, 11:04 AM
I dont think the judge can really take those remains found into account yet, as there have been no charges brought regarding her. All the charges before him currently are regarding KS.
Now some reasonable arguement may be made that he has a hsitory of untoward things happening to women around him, at this point facing 1st degree murder he really has nothing to lose, and he may be viewed as a clear threat to his current gf (who just hired Gloria Alread while he has been in jail). But I am not sure how much of that will fly without some formal request from her or her lawyer.
RAISE IT RAISE IT RAISE IT - everyone together now! RAISE IT RAISE IT!! Wasting valuable court time for that you - know - what!
SeriouslySearching
05-22-2009, 01:13 PM
I think NO BOND would be more appropriate anyway. Wouldn't it be great if the new Judge just said, "Forget about lowering it!" and decides to change the other order? :)
Mamabear1963
05-22-2009, 01:18 PM
I think NO BOND would be more appropriate anyway. Wouldn't it be great if the new Judge just said, "Forget about lowering it!" and decides to change the other order? :)
Would the Judge be able to do this or would the prosecution need to submit a motion?
Otise
05-22-2009, 01:18 PM
raise it raise it raise it - everyone together now! Raise it raise it!! Wasn't valuable court time for that ah-hem !!!!
Raise it! Raise it!!
SeriouslySearching
05-22-2009, 01:22 PM
Would the Judge be able to do this or would the prosecution need to submit a motion?The Judge can do whatever he wants as far as I know (not a legal eagle here tho). I would think since he is new...he could change the other ruling which set bond. (I could be very wrong on this one and maybe it is only wishful thinking. LOL)
Mamabear1963
05-22-2009, 01:26 PM
The Judge can do whatever he wants as far as I know (not a legal eagle here tho). I would think since he is new...he could change the other ruling which set bond. (I could be very wrong on this one and maybe it is only wishful thinking. LOL)
I agree, I think the judge should be able to do what ever he wants but didn't know if he were bound by the law.
Mamabear1963
05-22-2009, 01:36 PM
Hearing was supposed to start at 1:30. Wonder when we will hear something.
Leila
05-22-2009, 01:43 PM
I dont think the judge can really take those remains found into account yet, as there have been no charges brought regarding her. All the charges before him currently are regarding KS.
Now some reasonable arguement may be made that he has a hsitory of untoward things happening to women around him, at this point facing 1st degree murder he really has nothing to lose, and he may be viewed as a clear threat to his current gf (who just hired Gloria Alread while he has been in jail). But I am not sure how much of that will fly without some formal request from her or her lawyer.
I'm not an attorney, but DP was indicted for the murder of Kathleen Savio. I believe the judge has to stay within the limits of that murder indictment. I don't think she will legally be able to consider the possibility that remains found this week might be Stacy Peterson and another victim of DP, without an indictment for that death.
The prosecution should argue that DP is a flight risk. Although he's never fled before when he visited places out-of-state, he wasn't under a first-degree murder indictment at those times. Now, he has nothing to lose - stay and face a lengthy prison term and possibly life in prison, or take a chance on disappearing. He knows he might get caught eventually, but he might get a few more years of freedom before that happens.
If the remains found are Stacy's, he knows it, and it would be all the more reason to flee.
SeriouslySearching
05-22-2009, 01:44 PM
Hearing was supposed to start at 1:30. Wonder when we will hear something.I believe IL is on CST. It is only 12:44 pm according to my clock.
SeriouslySearching
05-22-2009, 01:46 PM
He is charged with First Degree Murder. We have seen many, many who were not allowed bond of any kind. What makes this case any different?
Paintr
05-22-2009, 02:12 PM
He is charged with First Degree Murder. We have seen many, many who were not allowed bond of any kind. What makes this case any different?
I think he should never been offered bond, but that's just me. Guess now his lawyer can argue that Drew has ties to the community, kids, house, girlfriend, job at the cat house, didn't run before....everything but sterling character. :)
Mamabear1963
05-22-2009, 02:12 PM
I believe IL is on CST. It is only 12:44 pm according to my clock.
:bang: duh guess I am just a bit over zealous:crazy:
SeriouslySearching
05-22-2009, 02:17 PM
I think he should never been offered bond, but that's just me. Guess now his lawyer can argue that Drew has ties to the community, kids, house, girlfriend, job at the cat house, didn't run before....everything but sterling character. :)Yes, that is what he will argue...along with being a "decorated officer". He will say, "Poor Drew is innocent. He only wants to get home to his kids and his future victim...er...wife." LOL
oceanblueeyes
05-22-2009, 02:20 PM
He is charged with First Degree Murder. We have seen many, many who were not allowed bond of any kind. What makes this case any different?
What are the state laws on bond?
In some states unless it is a Death Penalty case bond must be set.
imo
Bluebelle
05-22-2009, 02:27 PM
I think NO BOND would be more appropriate anyway. Wouldn't it be great if the new Judge just said, "Forget about lowering it!" and decides to change the other order? :)
I agree! I really don't understand why first degree murder is entitled to bond anyways... :mad:
Paintr
05-22-2009, 02:29 PM
Yes, that is what he will argue...along with being a "decorated officer". He will say, "Poor Drew is innocent. He only wants to get home to his kids and his future victim...er...wife." LOL
SS, as angry as I am at Drew P, I still got a chuckle out of your 'slip of the tongue'. :) I can just hear Joel B on air saying that sentence.
BTW was Drew a decorated officer? I thought they fired his as...er...I mean, discontinued his services and he somehow managed to make a comeback?
Paintr
05-22-2009, 02:32 PM
What are the state laws on bond?
In some states unless it is a Death Penalty case bond must be set.
imo
Well, maybe they could make it a DP case and both Drew and JB would be saved the minor annoyance of this whole bond hearing.:)
mysteriew
05-22-2009, 02:33 PM
Two previously unmentioned people -- Timothy McCarthy and Clinton Charles Van Nocker -- have been granted daily, face-to-face access to Peterson, according to an order signed by Judge Kinney. Peterson remains in the Will County jail since his May 7 arrest for Savio's murder.
A Peterson spokesman said McCarthy and Van Nocker are researchers working on the case for the Michigan law firm of Andrew Abood, one of four defense attorneys on the case.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/drew-peterson-joel-brodsky-kathleen-savio-bolingbrook-will-county-court-bond-bail.html
thefragile7393
05-22-2009, 02:38 PM
Deny deny deny! No, please do NOT reduce it, unless it's to 19 million. This is ridiculous, he needs to stay where he is :behindbar
mysteriew
05-22-2009, 03:12 PM
I dont think the judge can really take those remains found into account yet, as there have been no charges brought regarding her. All the charges before him currently are regarding KS.
Now some reasonable arguement may be made that he has a hsitory of untoward things happening to women around him, at this point facing 1st degree murder he really has nothing to lose, and he may be viewed as a clear threat to his current gf (who just hired Gloria Alread while he has been in jail). But I am not sure how much of that will fly without some formal request from her or her lawyer.
I would like to respectfully disagree on this point.
This is about bond- the right to bond, the accused's ability to make bond, the chances that the accused might flee and things like that.
So even though it is bond for only one case, Kathleen's case, the fact that DrewP is under suspicion in another death.... a case where police have named him a suspect, a case where the remains may have been found is a point that I think the judge would have to look at.
Because that second case could increase the pressure on DrewP. And could change the course of the Savio case as it would then be about multiple murders. Even possible penalties could change, it could make a difference between life with or without parole. And even though he isn't charged in that case yet, the fact that he is being investigated and considered as a suspect is something that I think she would have to look at.
I don't think she can increase the bail for these reasons, but she can use it in consideration as to whether or not to reduce it.
SeriouslySearching
05-22-2009, 03:14 PM
Any news yet?! Fox hasn't had a thing on it.
mysteriew
05-22-2009, 03:20 PM
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=295488&src=2
Brodsky plans to ask the judge to reduce Peterson's bond to less than $500,000. He called Peterson a "model client" with a good civic record who never fled despite traveling to places such as California, Florida and Mexico during the long probe.
Brodsky also said the four-member defense team has not ruled out asking that a special prosecutor be brought in since Peterson, as a former cop, has worked alongside some of those who are seeking his conviction.
"We are going to fight this case every step of the way," Brodsky said. "We're going to see him exonerated and walk out the courthouse a free man."
Prosecutors and the women's families oppose any bond reduction.
From the Peterson case point of view this judge has two major counts against her. She is female, and DrewP has been shooting off his mouth in ways that are sure to infuriate women. And if the rumor is true that this judge is the one that accepted Kathleen's request to drop the charges on DrewP, then there will be fear that she will remember her feelings when she later found out about Kathleen's death. It's no wonder that they don't want her as the judge.
mysteriew
05-22-2009, 03:23 PM
Any news yet?! Fox hasn't had a thing on it.
I've been checking and haven't found anything yet.
SeriouslySearching
05-22-2009, 03:25 PM
Prosecutors: Drew Peterson wanted wife dead
JOLIET, Ill. - Prosecutors say Drew Peterson tried to hire someone in 2003 to kill his third wife.
They made the allegation at a hearing over a request to reduce Peterson's $20 million bond.
A judge refused to reduce the bond for the suburban ex-cop, charged with killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-drewpeterson,0,7065419.story
mysteriew
05-22-2009, 03:28 PM
Prosecutors: Drew Peterson wanted wife dead
JOLIET, Ill. - Prosecutors say Drew Peterson tried to hire someone in 2003 to kill his third wife.
They made the allegation at a hearing over a request to reduce Peterson's $20 million bond.
A judge refused to reduce the bond for the suburban ex-cop, charged with killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-drewpeterson,0,7065419.story
Bombshell!!!
And she refused to reduce the bond!
PMLsmom
05-22-2009, 03:29 PM
Great!!!
Mamabear1963
05-22-2009, 03:31 PM
Prosecutors: Drew Peterson wanted wife dead
JOLIET, Ill. - Prosecutors say Drew Peterson tried to hire someone in 2003 to kill his third wife.
They made the allegation at a hearing over a request to reduce Peterson's $20 million bond.
A judge refused to reduce the bond for the suburban ex-cop, charged with killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-drewpeterson,0,7065419.story
:dance::dance:
:Banane49::Banane49:
:Banane48:
:Banane35:
:purplebananna:
sorry I lost control but I am glad.
sandcastles4me
05-22-2009, 03:31 PM
Very good to hear!
scandi
05-22-2009, 03:32 PM
I've been checking and haven't found anything yet.
Prosecutors: Drew Peterson wanted wife dead
JOLIET, Ill. - Prosecutors say Drew Peterson tried to hire someone in 2003 to kill his third wife.
They made the allegation at a hearing over a request to reduce Peterson's $20 million bond.
A judge refused to reduce the bond for the suburban ex-cop, charged with killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-drewpeterson,0,7065419.story
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo: baby, and thank you very much SS!
Is that a new allegation that he tried to hire someone to kill Kathleen? Ta
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo: baby, and thank you very much SS!
Is that a new allegation that he tried to hire someone to kill Kathleen? Ta
I can't wait for the details on this one.:boohoo:
mysteriew
05-22-2009, 03:37 PM
$25,000
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/1587229,drew-peterson-savio-murder-offer-money-052209.article
A source tells CBS 2 that the new judge's husband is an investigator with the Will County Sheriff's office.
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/drew.peterson.hitman.2.1017001.html
And Peterson told a police officer he would be better off if Kathleen Savio was dead because he would be financially ruined by a pending divorce. She was found drowned in her bathtub three weeks later, a gash to the back of her head.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/peterson-tried-to-hire-someone-to-kill-savio.html
thefragile7393
05-22-2009, 03:38 PM
Yes VERY good to hear, thank you SS for posting that! Interesting tidbit of information there as well about the attempt at murder for hire.
mysteriew
05-22-2009, 03:47 PM
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo: baby, and thank you very much SS!
Is that a new allegation that he tried to hire someone to kill Kathleen? Ta
Yep this is new info. I haven't even heard a hint of this in the year and a half that I have been following this case. This is something that LE has held close to their case and never leaked it.
Cherry Baby
05-22-2009, 03:56 PM
That news makes the start of a wonderful weekend!
Carolina Girl
05-22-2009, 03:56 PM
I too have never heard that one. Where was this police officer when she turned up dead in a dry bathtub? He should have told someone that then, maybe Stacy would be alive today.
breanna
05-22-2009, 04:00 PM
Yep this is new info. I haven't even heard a hint of this in the year and a half that I have been following this case. This is something that LE has held close to their case and never leaked it.
First I've heard of this too. Interesting that $25,000.00 is the same amount that Stacy supposedly "ran away" with :waitasec: If he offered someone that amount to kill Kathleen he probably thought it was funny to use the same amount with Stacy, knowing ole' Drewpy.
As far as no bond reduction, this is great news. I'm glad those people in Illinois are finally doing the right thing with this murderer.
Happy Friday :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
Leila
05-22-2009, 04:02 PM
Prosecutors: Drew Peterson wanted wife dead
JOLIET, Ill. - Prosecutors say Drew Peterson tried to hire someone in 2003 to kill his third wife.
They made the allegation at a hearing over a request to reduce Peterson's $20 million bond.
A judge refused to reduce the bond for the suburban ex-cop, charged with killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-drewpeterson,0,7065419.story
Excellent news!
Interesting that DP tried to hire someone to kill KS in 2003. That gives some weight to what TM stated about DP approaching him about "killing someone" a day or two prior to Stacy's disappearance.
Cherry Baby
05-22-2009, 04:19 PM
From WLS, Drew smiled during hearing. Will still ask for bond reduction later, they have no worries. Not too much on the hiring of someone to kill Savio, but they are saying that DP said to a fellow cop about three weeks before Savio was killed that 'life would be easier if she was dead'.
Judge was very strict today. Baliffs announced before judge entered that there was to be no contact with DP.
It may come out that many officers knew that Savio was in danger but did nothing. Unclear if officer DP opened his yap to is from Bolingbrook or elsewhere. However doesn't sound like they could prosecute now any officers that knew anything prior.
SeriouslySearching
05-22-2009, 04:21 PM
Wow. I have never seen these photos before. These HAD to come from Drew.:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/-1,peterson112307.photogallery?index=40
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/-1,peterson112307.photogallery?index=0 <<<This one really ticks me off!!! He gave this to them evidently. What a POS!!!
This is a great cartoon:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/-1,peterson112307.photogallery?index=28
Bluebelle
05-22-2009, 04:25 PM
Peterson's bond stands at $20 million
Bond for Drew Peterson will stay at $20 million. At a hearing today in Will County Circuit Court, a judge refused a request by Joel Brodsky, Peterson's lawyer, to have the bond reduced. Will County State's Attorney James Glasgow also claimed Peterson tried to solicit his ex-wife's murder in 2003.
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/1587227,peterson-bond-murder_jo052209.article
Paintr
05-22-2009, 04:30 PM
Prosecutors: Drew Peterson wanted wife dead
JOLIET, Ill. - Prosecutors say Drew Peterson tried to hire someone in 2003 to kill his third wife.
They made the allegation at a hearing over a request to reduce Peterson's $20 million bond.
A judge refused to reduce the bond for the suburban ex-cop, charged with killing his third wife, Kathleen Savio.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-il-drewpeterson,0,7065419.story
:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
BetsyB
05-22-2009, 04:39 PM
Bombshell!!!
And she refused to reduce the bond!
Thank goodness! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
I was having a hard time thinking of anything more unjust than having him pay bail using money derived from the death of the woman whose death he's been charged with.
ETA: Am I the only one deriving perverse pleasure from the fact that decisions such as this are being delivered to misogynist Drew by a female judge?
lonetraveler
05-22-2009, 04:42 PM
First I've heard of this too. Interesting that $25,000.00 is the same amount that Stacy supposedly "ran away" with :waitasec: If he offered someone that amount to kill Kathleen he probably thought it was funny to use the same amount with Stacy, knowing ole' Drewpy.
As far as no bond reduction, this is great news. I'm glad those people in Illinois are finally doing the right thing with this murderer.
Happy Friday :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
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Makes you wonder if there actually was $25,000 missing at the same time that Stacey disappeared, if Drew paid someone to dispose of the body for him. :waitasec:
scandi
05-22-2009, 04:51 PM
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Makes you wonder if there actually was $25,000 missing at the same time that Stacey disappeared, if Drew paid someone to dispose of the body for him. :waitasec:
:eek: Sandra Belinger mentions the name of another person involved in the case I had never heard before. Tonight I'll check it out. xox
faefrost
05-22-2009, 04:57 PM
From WLS, Drew smiled during hearing. Will still ask for bond reduction later, they have no worries. Not too much on the hiring of someone to kill Savio, but they are saying that DP said to a fellow cop about three weeks before Savio was killed that 'life would be easier if she was dead'.
Judge was very strict today. Baliffs announced before judge entered that there was to be no contact with DP.
It may come out that many officers knew that Savio was in danger but did nothing. Unclear if officer DP opened his yap to is from Bolingbrook or elsewhere. However doesn't sound like they could prosecute now any officers that knew anything prior.
One would hope that the state attorney is considering prosecuting the fellow officer that influenced and tanked the original civilian Coroners Board of Inquiry that declarred KS's death an accident originally.
breanna
05-22-2009, 04:57 PM
:eek: Sandra Belinger mentions the name of another person involved in the case I had never heard before. Tonight I'll check it out. xox
Oh! I remember that Scandi. Based on what Lonetraveler just said too, now I'm really wondering. Is the $25,000.00 regarding Stacy significant? :eek:
thefragile7393
05-22-2009, 05:16 PM
Wow. I have never seen these photos before. These HAD to come from Drew.:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/-1,peterson112307.photogallery?index=40
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/-1,peterson112307.photogallery?index=0 <<<This one really ticks me off!!! He gave this to them evidently. What a POS!!!
This is a great cartoon:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/peterson/-1,peterson112307.photogallery?index=28
Thank you for this. The 3rd one dosn't open to a cartoon, however....I'm at work and I can't go forward through it, will later though.
The first one....such a cute kiddo! DP looks very drunk to me though....not really...doting-dad looking to me. Just the way he's propping up the baby.
The 2nd.....ugh. No words for that...no words for that at all. He's a piece of work, that's for sure. Who is the other girl in that photo? Obviously I could (should) go back through the threads, but the name dosn't jump out at me immediately as familiar.
scandi
05-22-2009, 05:19 PM
Oh! I remember that Scandi. Based on what Lonetraveler just said too, now I'm really wondering. Is the $25,000.00 regarding Stacy significant? :eek:
Hi Sweetie, I don't know and have to leave for a few hours ;{ Tonight I'll go read at her sight to see if she gives any more info about that guy unless you have time this afternoon. LOL
Anyhoo, see you guys tonight. What a day with hearings in these cases. Simply action packed for Justice, eh? Ya Ya xox
Another GOOD FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
scandi
05-22-2009, 05:25 PM
Another GOOD FRIDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yo Poco, You bet 'cha sweet bippy! Amazing how sometimes things start to click as Justice wends it's slow BUT SURE way forward. :blowkiss:
breanna
05-22-2009, 05:30 PM
Thank you for this. The 3rd one dosn't open to a cartoon, however....I'm at work and I can't go forward through it, will later though.
The first one....such a cute kiddo! DP looks very drunk to me though....not really...doting-dad looking to me. Just the way he's propping up the baby.
The 2nd.....ugh. No words for that...no words for that at all. He's a piece of work, that's for sure. Who is the other girl in that photo? Obviously I could (should) go back through the threads, but the name dosn't jump out at me immediately as familiar.
The 2nd one is Stacy's sister, Cassandra. They had this picture up on the front page of an article about Drew in a Chicago newspaper, and so many people called the newspaper and complained, they supposedly removed it. But it looks like the picture is still there, somewhere :mad:
Paintr
05-22-2009, 05:32 PM
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/05/22/Drew-Peterson-allegedly-sought-hit-man/UPI-15671243026918/
former police officer in Illinois, Drew Peterson, tried to hire someone to kill his third wife the year before her death, a prosecutor alleged Friday.
SeriouslySearching
05-22-2009, 05:34 PM
Thank you for this. The 3rd one dosn't open to a cartoon, however....I'm at work and I can't go forward through it, will later though.
The first one....such a cute kiddo! DP looks very drunk to me though....not really...doting-dad looking to me. Just the way he's propping up the baby.
The 2nd.....ugh. No words for that...no words for that at all. He's a piece of work, that's for sure. Who is the other girl in that photo? Obviously I could (should) go back through the threads, but the name dosn't jump out at me immediately as familiar.The photo of his daughter in front of the mirror is cute, but it was disturbing to see how Drew staged it with his Prince quote. :eek:
The girl wearing the gear is her sister, Cassandra.
kikid
05-22-2009, 05:35 PM
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Makes you wonder if there actually was $25,000 missing at the same time that Stacey disappeared, if Drew paid someone to dispose of the body for him. :waitasec:
or if she was Unconscious but alive in the barrel when he handed it off to someone else.... to do the job.
that would mean he could actually say she left with another man with a straight face and could not know where she is.
SuziQ
05-22-2009, 05:39 PM
One would hope that the state attorney is considering prosecuting the fellow officer that influenced and tanked the original civilian Coroners Board of Inquiry that declarred KS's death an accident originally.
ITA! I just about go balistic whenever I think about that.
thefragile7393
05-22-2009, 05:41 PM
The 2nd one is Stacy's sister, Cassandra. They had this picture up on the front page of an article about Drew in a Chicago newspaper, and so many people called the newspaper and complained, they supposedly removed it. But it looks like the picture is still there, somewhere :mad:
Okay that's just creepy...which duh I already knew of course but I guess I'm still shocked by some of his antics even though one would think I would be used to them by now.
Paintr
05-22-2009, 05:59 PM
On the other threaqd it was posted that HLN is reporting that the remains are NOT related to either Stacy or Lisa. So we'll be going through another bond reduction hearing when the defense hears this? No wonder Drew wasn't worried according to his lawyer.
6angels
05-22-2009, 06:10 PM
Thank you for this. The 3rd one dosn't open to a cartoon, however....I'm at work and I can't go forward through it, will later though.
The first one....such a cute kiddo! DP looks very drunk to me though....not really...doting-dad looking to me. Just the way he's propping up the baby.
The 2nd.....ugh. No words for that...no words for that at all. He's a piece of work, that's for sure. Who is the other girl in that photo? Obviously I could (should) go back through the threads, but the name dosn't jump out at me immediately as familiar.
Her sister Cassandrea ( also one of her best friends They was super close.) Drew should be ashamed of himself. BUt he wont be. Monsters don't have hearts or souls.
6angels
05-22-2009, 06:12 PM
On the other threaqd it was posted that HLN is reporting that the remains are NOT related to either Stacy or Lisa. So we'll be going through another bond reduction hearing when the defense hears this? No wonder Drew wasn't worried according to his lawyer.
Really? how would they know? Dna is not back yet i thought.
gogrannypop
05-22-2009, 06:22 PM
First I've heard of this too. Interesting that $25,000.00 is the same amount that Stacy supposedly "ran away" with :waitasec: If he offered someone that amount to kill Kathleen he probably thought it was funny to use the same amount with Stacy, knowing ole' Drewpy.
As far as no bond reduction, this is great news. I'm glad those people in Illinois are finally doing the right thing with this murderer.
Happy Friday :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:
Drewpy..snicker
stillblv
05-22-2009, 07:07 PM
Oh yeah! Karma's a *****, ain't it Drew????
woohoo!
mysteriew
05-22-2009, 07:31 PM
Thank goodness! :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:
I was having a hard time thinking of anything more unjust than having him pay bail using money derived from the death of the woman whose death he's been charged with.
ETA: Am I the only one deriving perverse pleasure from the fact that decisions such as this are being delivered to misogynist Drew by a female judge?
ROFL! Oh yeah, I've thought of it. And I am loving it too!
In life according to DrewP women are there to serve, and this woman will be serving the public (including other women) not just serving DrewP. If she remains the judge for DrewP's case, that will bug him big time when he is convicted.
BTW, this is the type of guy that if he thinks he might get convicted just might try to find another hit man..... IMO.
songline
05-22-2009, 08:00 PM
Yes, that is what he will argue...along with being a "decorated officer". He will say, "Poor Drew is innocent. He only wants to get home to his kids and his future victim...er...wife." LOL
:floorlaugh: I am overtired and I just fell of a chair laughing. :floorlaugh:
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panthera
05-22-2009, 08:19 PM
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Makes you wonder if there actually was $25,000 missing at the same time that Stacey disappeared, if Drew paid someone to dispose of the body for him. :waitasec:
Good Friday evening! :) Based on the information that just came out, it wouldn't be too surprising. He doesn't seem to be too worried about her being found.
Paintr
05-22-2009, 08:27 PM
Really? how would they know? Dna is not back yet i thought.
Haven't a clue. Maybe they have a source, or maybe they jumped too soon. I hope they are wrong.
Paintr
05-22-2009, 08:33 PM
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/peterson-tried-to-hire-someone-to-kill-savio.html
His attorneys, Joel Brodsky and David Abood, denied that Peterson had ever tried to hire a killer or told another officer he wanted his wife dead. They said they would file an appeal with the state appellate court on Judge Policandriotes' decision to hold bond at $20 million.
Peterson's attorneys said in court papers they would seek bond between $100,000 to $500,000, but on Friday they said they would seek around $1 million.
Brodsky told reporters Glasgow "said a lot of things he can't substantiate." Brodsky said he thought that much of what was presented Friday in court will not make it into any possible trial if the state's new hearsay law is not upheld.
Paintr
05-22-2009, 08:36 PM
The actual statement from defense...
(PRNewsChannel) / Joliet, Ill. / The following statement is from Drew Peterson's criminal defense team regarding today's denial of the motion to lower bond.
"We’re disappointed that the motion to reduce bond was denied. We feel the state’s attorney made references during the hearing that were irrelevant to the case, such as statements made in regard to Stacy Peterson. These statements had nothing to do with the case involving the death of Kathleen Savio.
"We will immediately appeal this decision to the Illinois Appellate Court. Appeals of motions to deny bond are heard in an expedited fashion. We are confident the appellate court will reduce the $20-million bond to a reasonable level. We expect to have the appeal on file by the end of next week."
http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1411&z=4
believe09
05-22-2009, 08:44 PM
The actual statement from defense...
(PRNewsChannel) / Joliet, Ill. / The following statement is from Drew Peterson's criminal defense team regarding today's denial of the motion to lower bond.
"We’re disappointed that the motion to reduce bond was denied. We feel the state’s attorney made references during the hearing that were irrelevant to the case, such as statements made in regard to Stacy Peterson. These statements had nothing to do with the case involving the death of Kathleen Savio.
"We will immediately appeal this decision to the Illinois Appellate Court. Appeals of motions to deny bond are heard in an expedited fashion. We are confident the appellate court will reduce the $20-million bond to a reasonable level. We expect to have the appeal on file by the end of next week."
http://www.prnewschannel.com/absolutenm/templates/?a=1411&z=4
OK. I get the fact that in the spirit of the law, a jury probably could not take into consideration the fact that his 4th wife is missing, but to expect that to hold true for a bond hearing? I mean, how is this guy NOT a flight risk given the fact that he has been charged with murder and clearly something is brewing with Stacey's case? :waitasec: Legal eagles, please help me out.
scandi
05-22-2009, 08:56 PM
One would hope that the state attorney is considering prosecuting the fellow officer that influenced and tanked the original civilian Coroners Board of Inquiry that declarred KS's death an accident originally.
Oh, That is SO beyond the pale! Don't you think they should prosecute that fellow officer? The board members? I know that would be very expensive to do and is unrealistic, but if we can't trust our law system in this country we're doomed!
They ought to at least charge that officer with collusion of some sort and then string the charge out for years. Ya Ya
Thanks for the post faefrost. xox
scandi
05-22-2009, 08:59 PM
The photo of his daughter in front of the mirror is cute, but it was disturbing to see how Drew staged it with his Prince quote. :eek:
The girl wearing the gear is her sister, Cassandra.
Howdy, I didn't think that photo even looked like Stacy although I am sure it is. ;}
breanna
05-22-2009, 10:04 PM
Drewpy..snicker
LOL. No fair! You made me drool my pop all over myself. Too funny :) I love it :clap:
breanna
05-22-2009, 10:11 PM
Hi Sweetie, I don't know and have to leave for a few hours ;{ Tonight I'll go read at her sight to see if she gives any more info about that guy unless you have time this afternoon. LOL
Anyhoo, see you guys tonight. What a day with hearings in these cases. Simply action packed for Justice, eh? Ya Ya xox
Hi there Scandi :wave: I went back and looked at all of Sandra's EVP stuff. I didn't want to post it here cuz some people don't like that stuff and I don't want to muck up this thread :) But I have it up and ready for wherever :)
Don't know where to copy and paste it? But....she mentions a Dave as an accomplice, the crackhead, and a person was paid.
Her stuff on Stacy is eerie, IMO.
scandi
05-22-2009, 10:37 PM
Hi there Scandi :wave: I went back and looked at all of Sandra's EVP stuff. I didn't want to post it here cuz some people don't like that stuff and I don't want to muck up this thread :) But I have it up and ready for wherever :)
Don't know where to copy and paste it? But....she mentions a Dave as an accomplice, the crackhead, and a person was paid.
Her stuff on Stacy is eerie, IMO.
Hi again Breanna, Thanks for that. I saw last night there is a thread here already about Sandra's readings.
Is there a Dave that has ever been mentioned in the case as one of his friends? I haven't studied this case too long so haven't heard the name. It is interesting tho. I'm going to her site later tonight to read too. xox
breanna
05-22-2009, 10:41 PM
Hi again Breanna, Thanks for that. I saw last night there is a thread here already about Sandra's readings.
Is there a Dave that has ever been mentioned in the case as one of his friends? I haven't studied this case too long so haven't heard the name. It is interesting tho. I'm going to her site later tonight to read too. xox
Dave is just not familiar to me. I'm going to call an old friend from back in the FSP days...she has all of this computerized in her brain and maybe she can help me remember.
breanna
05-22-2009, 11:59 PM
Dave is just not familiar to me. I'm going to call an old friend from back in the FSP days...she has all of this computerized in her brain and maybe she can help me remember.
There is a Sandra thread here but it's for new info...and there isn't any. It's just old stuff. But it's interesting all the same.
I just talked with my very old good friend, I love her if she reads here :blowkiss: We simply cannot find a timeline for Drew the day AFTER Stacy went missing. We're all good on the day she went missing tho.
But we can't remember what was going on on October 29, and when Drew left on his 3 day "head clearing a.k.a disposing of evidence trip" that LE let him take with no problem at all and no surveillence. MAJOR mistake in this case, IMHO. :mad:
breanna
05-23-2009, 12:09 AM
O.M.G. I quoted my own quote. Didn't mean to do that, sorry :)
scandi
05-23-2009, 12:18 AM
There is a Sandra thread here but it's for new info...and there isn't any. It's just old stuff. But it's interesting all the same.
I just talked with my very old good friend, I love her if she reads here :blowkiss: We simply cannot find a timeline for Drew the day AFTER Stacy went missing. We're all good on the day she went missing tho.
But we can't remember what was going on on October 29, and when Drew left on his 3 day "head clearing a.k.a disposing of evidence trip" that LE let him take with no problem at all and no surveillence. MAJOR mistake in this case, IMHO. :mad:
Hi, No problemo http://www.todojuegos.com/modules/Forums/images/smiles/gathering.gif We need a little laugh now and then. ;}
So Drew left on his 3 day trip the day after Stacy went missing? Wow I guess he took advantage of the fact he was LE and thought his clout would override the fact he was the husband and natural suspect!
breanna
05-23-2009, 10:41 PM
I know this is so yesterday's news, but I was reading back on some news articles regarding the hearing and I saw this. It just kills me :crazy: Sorry if this was already brought up and I missed it!
" At the start of Friday's hearing, Brodsky accused Policandriotes of ordering Peterson to pay child support to Savio during their divorce proceedings. Policandriotes said this was impossible, since she was never on the divorce call. Brodsky later said he thought he read this in a newspaper. "
LMAO. Really? Brodsky accuses the Judge of something he thought he read in a newspaper? Jaysus. At this point, we've only had to hear him speak periodically (well that's debateable LOL) but now we may see this all day, day after day, for months.
Why do I feel like I'll be slapping my forehead daily listening to this stuff :bang:
Paintr
05-24-2009, 12:39 AM
I know this is so yesterday's news, but I was reading back on some news articles regarding the hearing and I saw this. It just kills me :crazy: Sorry if this was already brought up and I missed it!
" At the start of Friday's hearing, Brodsky accused Policandriotes of ordering Peterson to pay child support to Savio during their divorce proceedings. Policandriotes said this was impossible, since she was never on the divorce call. Brodsky later said he thought he read this in a newspaper. "
LMAO. Really? Brodsky accuses the Judge of something he thought he read in a newspaper? Jaysus. At this point, we've only had to hear him speak periodically (well that's debateable LOL) but now we may see this all day, day after day, for months.
Why do I feel like I'll be slapping my forehead daily listening to this stuff :bang:
I was amazed that JB made such a statement without being certain. And then to come up with such a feeble explanation as 'read it in a paper'. Scheeeech!
I have no problem with a vigorous defense, but why do certain defense attornies in the news lately seem to come off as so incompetent, arrogant, and unprepared? Didn't these people attend the same law schools as other lawyers?
breanna
05-24-2009, 12:50 AM
I was amazed that JB made such a statement without being certain. And then to come up with such a feeble explanation as 'read it in a paper'. Scheeeech!
I have no problem with a vigorous defense, but why do certain defense attornies in the news lately seem to come off as so incompetent, arrogant, and unprepared? Didn't these people attend the same law schools as other lawyers?
I absolutely agree. This will be one interesting trial. No disrespect for Kathleen at all, but I'm thinking we'll be having these discussions daily :crazy:
mysteriew
05-29-2009, 09:49 PM
LOL, we are going to have to post a new thread just for judge change requests.
1 The prosecution makes a motion for a new judge and it is granted.
2 Defense objects to the judge change and announces they are going to protest the change. Also announces they are going to request a new judge.
3 Defense then announces that the new judge is okay with them.
4 Per the article posted in media thread by Mitzi, now the defense says they want a new judge.
breanna
05-30-2009, 12:06 AM
Maybe Joel finally figured out that this woman judge really isn't on Drew's side. He probably learned this from reading it in the paper :)
Or maybe Drew explained to Joel eh?....."No Joel, just because she removed the Protection Order at Kathleen's request doesn't mean she'll be a cool judge for us, we better get rid of her too".
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