View Full Version : Mother Distraught After Teen Stabs, Kills 4-Year-Old Sister
kikid
05-24-2009, 01:13 AM
I swear there is something in the water there in Will County, IL http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30903229
A frantic mother arrived home in Mokena Friday night to find police outside her home. Her 4-year-old daughter Sabrina Clement had been stabbed to death by her teenage half brother, accordng to Will County prosecutors.
Lovejac
05-24-2009, 01:24 AM
WTH is going on in Illinois?? Good God, he stabbed a 4 y.o. in the neck.
Lovejac
05-24-2009, 01:27 AM
another article.
http://www.southtownstar.com/1588601,052309-mokena-death.article
there was also a 16 y.o. in the house too.
SuziQ
05-24-2009, 01:31 AM
kikid, I think there is something going on in the water everywhere. Familial crime has gotten epidemic and out of hand.
RIP baby girl.
Disguiseduser0308
05-24-2009, 01:32 AM
:eek: I have family in Mokena. Mostly single family homes and strip malls. I'm not sure what's going on around here but it is worrisome all these stories as of late.
SuziQ
05-24-2009, 01:34 AM
God, just look at the related stories in the sidebar at the MSNBC link:
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Disguiseduser0308
05-24-2009, 01:37 AM
God, just look at the related stories in the sidebar at the MSNBC link:
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Hudson Man Accused Of Killing Mom, Brother (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30829846/)
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No decision today on trying 13-year-old as adult (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30891994/)
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:( It's so sad.
SuziQ
05-24-2009, 01:39 AM
another article.
http://www.southtownstar.com/1588601,052309-mokena-death.article
there was also a 16 y.o. in the house too.
Is the 16 yo suspected of involvement as well? Wow, first murder in 25 years.
Rankovich said police still are investigating what kind of weapon
Randulich allegedly used. The commander said he could not say if the 16-year-old brother will be charged.
SuziQ
05-24-2009, 01:42 AM
:( It's so sad.
Since the holidays, there has been such an escalation. It's weighed heavily on my heart.
For about a month I kept track of mass (3 or more) familial and strangers killings in the U.S. I stopped counting at 100 victims. And that number doesn't include the one or two victim crimes like this one. So the actual number would be much greater.
SuziQ
05-24-2009, 01:48 AM
We might find out that Keith has some mental issues:
Robert Wisch, who has lived in the neighborhood for about a dozen years, described the family as unsociable, saying they never waved back to him or his son.
Wisch said Randulich startled him once as he walked past the house one evening a few months ago.
The teenager was standing in the dark near a car, "kind of arguing with himself. Pacing back and forth. But we really had no other contact with them," Wisch said.
Lovejac
05-24-2009, 01:50 AM
Interesting comments here:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Brother-Kills-4-Year-Old-Half-Sister.html
Anonymous Today at 5:05 PM FLAG COMMENT This is so crazy, Keith was always the quiet shy one never to do anything like this I've gone to grade school and was going to high school with him, this is so sad and unexpected....RIP Sabrina.
Megan Today at 2:06 PM FLAG COMMENT went to grade school with him, he was the nicest kid ever he was always laughing! omg i am in total shock of this. i can not believe he did that. RIP Sabrina
Disguiseduser0308
05-24-2009, 02:01 AM
We might find out that Keith has some mental issues:
Robert Wisch, who has lived in the neighborhood for about a dozen years, described the family as unsociable, saying they never waved back to him or his son.
Wisch said Randulich startled him once as he walked past the house one evening a few months ago.
The teenager was standing in the dark near a car, "kind of arguing with himself. Pacing back and forth. But we really had no other contact with them," Wisch said.
:( Makes ya wonder, not sure I would leave my four year old with a child who might have mental illness. Easy for me to say though, I don't live it. Prayers for their family. RIP little Sabrina.
STEADFAST
05-24-2009, 02:08 AM
We might find out that Keith has some mental issues:
Robert Wisch, who has lived in the neighborhood for about a dozen years, described the family as unsociable, saying they never waved back to him or his son.
Wisch said Randulich startled him once as he walked past the house one evening a few months ago.
The teenager was standing in the dark near a car, "kind of arguing with himself. Pacing back and forth. But we really had no other contact with them," Wisch said.
He's at an age that often marks the onset of schizophrenia. He could have been the most normal kid ever and suddenly change if he has this disease. In a way, I hope he is psychotic -- otherwise, the only motive I can think of is that he molested her.
kikid
05-24-2009, 08:05 AM
kikid, I think there is something going on in the water everywhere. Familial crime has gotten epidemic and out of hand.
RIP baby girl.
I agree, the number of familial crimes nationwide is insane!
Blackwatch
05-24-2009, 08:25 AM
I agree, the number of familial crimes nationwide is insane!
I believe as the economy sinks, crime with all its ramifications, rises.
My opinion only
He's at an age that often marks the onset of schizophrenia. He could have been the most normal kid ever and suddenly change if he has this disease. In a way, I hope he is psychotic -- otherwise, the only motive I can think of is that he molested her.
I agree that at the age of 18 he is in the window that marks the onset of schizophrenia. Often times, from what I've read there are only symptoms that can be recognized in hindsight when these young men succumb to this illness. I've also read that it can be tricky to diagnose before the first episode of psychosis.
I believe as the economy sinks, crime with all its ramifications, rises.
My opinion only
I agree with you on this one Blackwatch. I haven't read any articles to explain it, but in my mind, it's like a tipping point. People and families that are already on the edge (financially) with pre-existing psychological issues are tipped towards crime and violence when the unstable platform of their financial life is rocked. There are no simple explanations, I'm sure. However, we see such a rise in familial crimes when the economy takes a dive. JMHO too.
kiki the parrot
05-24-2009, 04:40 PM
He's at an age that often marks the onset of schizophrenia. He could have been the most normal kid ever and suddenly change if he has this disease. In a way, I hope he is psychotic -- otherwise, the only motive I can think of is that he molested her.
On the other hand this could be simply a case of another loner gaming addict whose sister was 'interfering' w his game or spilled juice on his playstation :rolleyes: Covered in blood from the neck down? His baby sister for God's sake.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/child-found-slain-in-mokena-officials-say.html
jnTexas
05-25-2009, 12:13 AM
On the other hand this could be simply a case of another loner gaming addict whose sister was 'interfering' w his game or spilled juice on his playstation :rolleyes: Covered in blood from the neck down? His baby sister for God's sake.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/child-found-slain-in-mokena-officials-say.html
That article is strange. Wonder if the 18 yr old is covering for the 16 yr old?
n a short news conference this afternoon, Rankovich said Randulich was the one who called police last night. Rankovich and two officers arrived at the home and found Keith and his 16-year-old brother at home, with no parents there. They soon found Sabrina in a basement room on the floor.
Both brothers -- who are both half-brothers to Sabrina -- were calm and cooperative. Randulich "went willingly" when police took him into custody, Rankovitch said. The probable cause in the case was based on an interview with Keith and evidence at the scene, he said.
kittenish
05-25-2009, 01:24 AM
Schizophrenics, when violent, are more likely to be violent toward family or caregivers, however the majority of them are not violent, and are more likely to be the target of violence.
I wonder about bi-polar disorder or schizoaffective disorder (a combination of schizophrenia and bi-polar disorders) as manic stages, according to wikipedia, often entail anger or rage.
That is, of course, if he is mentally ill - which there is not enough information to say whether he is or not.
Thanks kittenish, I hadn't thought of those at first. I was thinking of the onset of paranoid schizophrenia. But you're right, we don't have enough information.
Lovejac
05-30-2009, 01:08 AM
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/05/mokena-teen-charged-with-murder-pleads-not-guilty.html?obref=obinsite
Mokena teen charged with murder pleads not guilty
Lovejac
05-30-2009, 01:15 AM
http://www.dreamindemon.com/2009/05/27/little-sabrina-is-dead-and-big-brother-keith-randulich-isnt-talking/
When officers arrived, they found Randulich and a 16 year old sibling alive and well, and the body of little Sabrina in the basement, stabbed to death. She had several wounds to her neck and her throat had been slashed.
SuziQ
05-30-2009, 02:04 AM
Any details from the courts on this kids mental status?
http://www.wrex.com/Global/story.asp?S=10427370
Associated Press - May 26, 2009 10:54 PM ET
Teen pleads not guilty in young sister's death
...Keith Randulich appeared in Will County court Tuesday by video feed from the county jail. His public defender entered the not guilty plea to two counts of first-degree murder in the death of Sabrina Clement...
...The Will County coroner says she was stabbed repeatedly in the neck...
...He's being held at the Will County Jail on $10 million bond.
No mention of mental status yet Suzi.
(For anyone following the case that is not familiar with how charges are brought before the court in IL, it's not uncommon for there to be more than one charge of murder for a single victim, they will be consolidated at time of trial IIRC)
Lovejac
05-30-2009, 07:50 PM
Thanks for the explanation, Kat. :blowkiss:
I'm still suspicious of the 16 y.o. brother as well.
Lovejac
06-17-2009, 12:17 AM
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/06/mokena-keith-randulich-sabrina-clement.html
A Mokena teenager told police that he cut his 4-year-old half-sister's throat with a steak knife and stabbed her while his younger brother played a wrestling video game upstairs, according to a search warrant affidavit filed by a Mokena detective in Will County Circuit Court.
The court document said Randulich confessed to taking Clement into the sub-basement, straddling her as she struggled and screamed, and stabbing her.
The Lincoln Way East High School senior, who was a week away from graduation, returned home from school about 3 p.m. and fought with his mother about buying a gun, which he'd recently been licensed to own, the court document said. His parents and 14-year-old brother later left for a school event.
delaney
06-22-2009, 06:03 PM
http://www.southtownstar.com/news/1633907,randulich-0622.article
There was plea of innocent today in this case, teen said he wanted
his mother to purchase a gun for him, they argued, the parents left for
a school meeting leaving the 16 yr. old in charge of his sister. The brother
killed his sister to protect her from a "man" who was molesting her.
SuziQ
06-23-2009, 11:15 AM
IMO, he was probably the abuser and she was going to tell.
believe09
06-24-2009, 07:22 AM
I think if mom had let him buy the handgun, there would be a mass murder suicide being reported...JMO. I will be watching to see how this plays out.
southcitymom
06-24-2009, 10:32 AM
Schizophrenics, when violent, are more likely to be violent toward family or caregivers, however the majority of them are not violent, and are more likely to be the target of violence.
I wonder about bi-polar disorder or schizoaffective disorder (a combination of schizophrenia and bi-polar disorders) as manic stages, according to wikipedia, often entail anger or rage.
That is, of course, if he is mentally ill - which there is not enough information to say whether he is or not.
During that last 15 years, I became close for about a year or so with a woman who was schizophrenic and with another woman who had schizoaffective disorder. The woman with SAD had violent and gory hallucinations on a regular basis. I learned a lot in my relationships with both these women. Mental illness, like spiritual illness, is often confounding.
Based on the little bit we know about this case, I very much believe mental illness is at play.
mistivon
06-24-2009, 01:33 PM
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/1634690,4_1_JO23_RANDULICH_S1-090623.article
No evidence of abuse/molestation
Texas Mist
12-02-2010, 01:25 PM
Keith Randulich stood in court, his prison-issued clothing loose on his thin frame, and entered his plea in a soft voice before Judge Amy Bertani-Tomczak. He could receive anywhere from 20 years to life in prison.
more here
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2010/12/mokena-man-pleads-guilty-to-slaying-4-year-old-sister.html
Texas Mist
01-25-2011, 11:00 PM
bless little Sabrina - she asked her brother "why are you killing me?". :(
Videotaped confession played at sentencing of teen who murdered young sister
Shortly after murdering his 4-year-old sister in his Mokena bedroom, Keith Randulich sat in a police interrogation room, apparently staring at his blood-stained pants as he explained to detectives why he did it.
A video recording of Randulich's interview with police, which came shortly after he brutally cut the neck of his half-sister Sabrina Clement in 2009, was played in court by prosecutors during a sentencing hearing Tuesday. Randulich, 19, pleaded guilty to murder charges last month.
...............
Randulich said if he could go back in time he would perhaps get a job so he could afford a gun to kill the relative.
"It was a waste of life," he said.
Randulich is scheduled to be sentenced Feb. 2.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/southsouthwest/ct-met-mokena-stabbing-0126-20110125,0,4302185.story
Missizzy
01-26-2011, 12:17 AM
That is so tragic. It's hard to tell just who is a "waste of life" for this young man. His life, his sister's, the relative that he suspected of abusing her? He hasn't given up his desire to kill the relative, that's for sure.
This is not the first time we've had a mentally ill person kill a child who was thought to be a victim of abuse. It's almost a form of paranoia by proxy. It reminds me of Marci Webber's murder of her little girl. She, too, was certain that her child was being or was going to be abused. She slit her throat and wrote "divine mercy" in the girl's blood. I see this crime as very similar. I really wonder if both killers not only had mental illness but had experienced some form of abuse themselves and projected that pain onto others.
Did anyone else find that this boy's language and diction was a bit surprising for a high school student pulling A's? I wonder if he regressed to a younger age when he confessed to the crime.
What a tragedy, all around.
Lovejac
06-04-2011, 01:26 AM
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2011-04-14/news/ct-met-mokena-stabbing-sentencing-04120110414_1_keith-randulich-child-abuse-sentencing
Mokena teen gets 40-year sentence in 2009 stabbing of sister
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