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christine2448
06-24-2009, 09:49 AM
Please continue here.

Facts given
06-24-2009, 05:24 PM
It could take several weeks before tests are completed as they are very carefully examining all the evidence, found with her body.

"This is a high-profile case; nobody wants to be the one to make a mistake," Kennedy said. The lab report may indicate the presence of any DNA found on Nevaeh's body, "along with any skin under her fingernails that belonged to a perpetrator; and any hair that is not hers that may have been found," Kennedy said.


http://www.detnews.com/article/20090624/METRO/906240341/1409/METRO/Monroe-authorities-await-lab-reports-for-Nevaeh

Justice for Nevaeh FB
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=83164522508

mistivon
06-24-2009, 07:28 PM
Can someone post what was just said on JVM about Nevaeh? I walked in right at the end and missed what was said about "rumours".
TIA

Haddie McFaddies Mom
06-24-2009, 09:15 PM
I must have walked in on Issues at the same time you did Mistivon...right at the end :( I am hoping there will be a link to the segment that we can find soon. I was surprised they were talking about Nevaeh at the top of the show, it wasn't quite quarter past when I looked at the clock. I did hear them say LE was looking at this as a Premeditated Murder. I found that interesting.

I believe the fellow they were talking with was from The Toledo Blade.

Facts given
06-24-2009, 10:21 PM
YouTube - Issues 6/24/09 Nevaeh Part 1

mistivon
06-25-2009, 04:00 PM
Nevaeh's killer WILL be found:

http://www.monroenews.com/article/20090625/NEWS01/706259986/-1/NEWS

Haddie McFaddies Mom
06-25-2009, 06:59 PM
Thanks for that mistivon ~

My second grandson was born today. Between the Sheriff's statement, and the blessing of a new and beautiful baby boy in our lives ... I'm keepin' the Faith :)

LaLaw2000
06-26-2009, 08:41 AM
Thanks for that mistivon ~

My second grandson was born today. Between the Sheriff's statement, and the blessing of a new and beautiful baby boy in our lives ... I'm keepin' the Faith :)

Congratulations on your second grandson! Children are gifts to us, but grandchildren are the jackpot.

I check here every day to see what updates there may be. I know that justice is sometimes very slow and that I may just be too impatient, but I am so ready for this murderer to be brought to justice. It will happen.

MIMOMMY
06-26-2009, 12:42 PM
Not sure if this is off-topic or not --- but does anyone else find it extremely unusual that Jada Justice was found......inside of a tupperware tote, covered in cement, at the edge of water? In INDIANA???

Facts given
06-26-2009, 05:07 PM
Perhaps Jada's killer was 'inspired' by Nevaeh case :behindbar

Sheriff seems to be confident that Nevaeh case will be solved, the evidence must be compelling.

Recovering-Lurker
06-27-2009, 08:51 PM
No arrest(s) yet????? Come on!!!!!

CountryGirl
06-28-2009, 01:13 AM
I was so hoping for an arrest by now. I'll keep checking back.

SeriouslySearching
06-28-2009, 01:25 AM
Not sure if this is off-topic or not --- but does anyone else find it extremely unusual that Jada Justice was found......inside of a tupperware tote, covered in cement, at the edge of water? In INDIANA???Actually, no. I doubt they heard about Nevaeh's case. This was the insanity of someone else who was trying so hard to be the first. They were doing what they thought of first and thought it would survive them being caught. They were not students of other murders.

mem63
06-28-2009, 04:18 AM
Not sure if this is off-topic or not --- but does anyone else find it extremely unusual that Jada Justice was found......inside of a tupperware tote, covered in cement, at the edge of water? In INDIANA???

I thought the same thing MIMOMMY, but not just this similarity.. also inside trash bags, (similar to CA) and missing from gas station/ convienence store (like little Tangena) I'm not saying they did copy cat, but the similarities are just too weird.....

Chilly Willy
06-29-2009, 06:18 PM
I sure hope we hear something about Nevaeh's case soon. LE has to know something by now don't they??

Recovering-Lurker
06-30-2009, 11:59 AM
I sure hope we hear something about Nevaeh's case soon. LE has to know something by now don't they??

Me too. I hope they know something. I thought for sure there would be an arrest(s) made right away.

Kat
06-30-2009, 01:09 PM
Actually, no. I doubt they heard about Nevaeh's case. This was the insanity of someone else who was trying so hard to be the first. They were doing what they thought of first and thought it would survive them being caught. They were not students of other murders.

I wanted to add to that too. I agree. After having gone back through many of our archives here it's really not uncommon for murderers to use cement in the disposal of victims. I have read it over and over.

Kat
07-01-2009, 01:01 PM
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090701/METRO/907010352/Nevaeh-s-fate-haunts-residents

Wednesday, July 1, 2009

Nevaeh's fate haunts Monroe residents
Visits to grave wane, but not sense of loss

...However, Nevaeh's short life also was marred by conflict. Even before she was born on Feb. 3, 2004, she was at the center of a nasty custody battle between her drug-addicted mother and a father who ran off with her uncle's girlfriend, family members said.

Shane Hinojosa, Nevaeh's father, said he was estranged from his daughter even before her birth, with the Buchanans holding a grudge against him for running away to Toledo with the girlfriend of Mike Buchanan, Jennifer's brother...

... Jennifer Buchanan said Kennedy had briefly dated her two years ago before becoming a close friend, much to the objection of family members...


Just snipped some details that I had not seen before and brought them here in case someone else had not seen them either.

Her headstone is due to be delivered in the next few weeks from what I read in the aboe article.

bessie
07-02-2009, 02:07 AM
Two years ago JB was incarcerated. So how did she briefly date GK?:waitasec:

SeriouslySearching
07-02-2009, 02:37 AM
I sure hope we hear something about Nevaeh's case soon. LE has to know something by now don't they??Gosh, you would think so! They have had time for preliminary results of much of the testing by now.

mysticrose
07-05-2009, 02:50 PM
Search Continues for
Nevaeh's Killer
Updated: Friday, 03 Jul 2009, 7:52 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 03 Jul 2009, 7:52 PM EDT

MONROE, Mich. (WJBK) - The Monroe County Sheriff's Department and the FBI are looking at 400 sex offenders in Monroe County. It's been nearly six weeks since Neveah Buchanan was first reported missing. Family members are still waiting for closure.

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/090703_nevaeh_search

mysticrose
07-05-2009, 02:55 PM
In the article above they stated that results of her autopsy prob. wouldnt be released right away for fear of people changing their stories ? Interesting. I really feel that they will catch the person who did this and prob. already have an idea of who it is. Something tells me Nevaeh will get the justice deserved to her.

mistivon
07-05-2009, 03:08 PM
That is exactly what I was bringing down here. Whose story are they concerned is going to change? Leads me to believe someone may have confessed, and they are suspicious of it being real....or some story has been told to them about the murder that they don't want messed with...that was something pretty BIG imo.
In addition, he said second autopsy...is she being disinterred?

Haddie McFaddies Mom
07-05-2009, 06:49 PM
Or did LE/FBI request a private autopsy in addition to the Medical Examiner? Or are they referring to the Toxology Reports?

Bless her heart, Little Nevaeh. I dreamt of her two nights ago.

And now, sadly, there is Lindsey's case in Washington.

My trip around Monroe Myspacers has certainly been "enlightening" and has left me totally unnerved on the many occassions I've spent finding and following "friends".

The Lindsey Baum/McCleary WA hasn't left me nearly as unsettled in my Myspace search. However, there seems to be an epidemic of young girls, and I mean YOUNG, putting together very mature pages, with some of them having very "mature" friends.

I leave those Myspace meandering inquires with a feeling of great concern. Hopefully, Lindsey's disappearance will have some benefit in calling attention to the mothers up there that they have some issues they need to come down on their daughters about! I was nearly tempted to get out the McCleary/surrounding area white pages and start making phone calls!

But I wander....

Justice For Nevaeh ~

MissJames
07-09-2009, 03:15 PM
Thanks for that mistivon ~

My second grandson was born today. Between the Sheriff's statement, and the blessing of a new and beautiful baby boy in our lives ... I'm keepin' the Faith :)

Congrats and enjoy the cuddles!

LaLaw2000
07-12-2009, 05:16 AM
IDK if the FBI is still involved in the investigation or not, but they certainly need to be. Sometimes the local LE needs help. IMO, this investigation is too overwhelming for them.

By now the investigators know how Nevaeh was killed, they have whatever prints may have been recovered from the beer can, and have probably tracked down where the latex glove came from. There is also a possibility that prints could have been obtained from that latex glove.

The investigators are going to fart around (excuse me) until another crime happens and their attention has to turn to another case. Again; I think local LE is too overwhelmed.

DotsEyes
07-12-2009, 05:57 PM
LaLaw - I beg to differ with you. LE is not dragging their heels nor are they overwhelmed by the murder of this child. They are awaiting test results and continuing the investigation. Just because they aren't issuing detailed statements about the status of the investigation doesn't mean they are doing nothing. If we want the murderer caught and put away, LE wants it 100 times more than us and they are working to make it happen.

They will solve this case, it is just a matter of time.

Scarlett
07-14-2009, 05:11 PM
She was most likely buried alive... :(

link (http://www.freep.com/article/20090714/NEWS05/90714063/1007/5-year-old-Nevaeh-may-have-been-buried-alive--autopsy-shows)

Searchfortruth
07-14-2009, 06:30 PM
She was most likely buried alive... :(

link (http://www.freep.com/article/20090714/NEWS05/90714063/1007/5-year-old-Nevaeh-may-have-been-buried-alive--autopsy-shows)Oh no...how much longer until this perp is caught ? Poor Nevaeh, I so hope there is justice for her.

passionflower
07-14-2009, 06:57 PM
Oh no, buried alive....................
http://www.freep.com/article/20090714/NEWS05/90714063/1007/5-year-old-Nevaeh-may-have-been-buried-alive--autopsy-shows

flutter1
07-14-2009, 07:02 PM
How horrible -- I can't imagine the terror she must have felt before she died.

So sad, so sad.

athy
07-15-2009, 12:17 AM
poor baby!!

believe09
07-15-2009, 09:17 AM
These autopsy results caused me to shake-please God she was unconscious. Because there is a special place for a perp with that level of cruelty.

Haddie McFaddies Mom
07-15-2009, 11:51 AM
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m215/charactercounts/NevaehAngel-1.jpg

nursebeeme
07-15-2009, 12:13 PM
http://www.freep.com/article/20090715/NEWS05/90715030/1001/NEWS

jennifer is no where to be found... also on the forensic astro thread angelwhocares posted that her local news is saying that le may be going back again to search the apartment where neveah lived with grandma and mom...

The timing of this is interesting to me.... with some of the forensics back and all and now returning to the CA apartments.... also if you read the article I just linked above there is some interesting info about carpet fibers being found under Neveah's fingernails and the fact that LE had taken carpet samples from the apartment.

I am having a head scratching moment. And where is mommy??????

LaLaw2000
07-15-2009, 12:26 PM
When I read that Nevaeh may have been buried alive, I just cringed. My heart breaks for the sheer terror she had to have felt. I cannot imagine how her grandmother must feel about this.

Jennifer is most likely laying around somewhere drugged out of her mind. IMO, Jennifer knows what happened to Nevaeh. I hope she is located and has another polygraph.

momtective
07-15-2009, 01:14 PM
http://www.freep.com/article/2009071...hanan-s-mother

Meanwhile, neighbors say investigators snipped pieces of carpet from a nearby apartment last week to see if fibers match those found under the little girl’s fingernails.

Aaron Baker said today that officers cut out a piece of the tan carpet from the apartment where his 8-year-old son, Austin, played with Nevaeh just hours before the little girl disappeared.

“That way they had something to run a test on,” he said from the apartment across the hall and one floor up from Nevaeh’s, adding the same carpet covers the floors in Nevaeh’s home. Officials from the Monroe County Sheriff's had no comment, a spokeswoman said this morning.

Remember Aaron Baker?
We sleuthed him a while back.

STEADFAST
07-15-2009, 02:02 PM
She was most likely buried alive... :(

link (http://www.freep.com/article/20090714/NEWS05/90714063/1007/5-year-old-Nevaeh-may-have-been-buried-alive--autopsy-shows)

I started a thread for the Autopsy Results, mainly so that people don't miss the info if this thread gets full of other info. Also, we may need it when a trial happens.

Can't tell you how saddened I was by the results.:mad:

christine2448
07-15-2009, 02:16 PM
:grouphug:

jnTexas
07-15-2009, 02:31 PM
I'm wondering if someone forcably pushed her face into dirt would there be bruises in the shape of fingers on the back of her head?

I know I have seen cases where bruises show up after death.

lonetraveler
07-15-2009, 02:51 PM
http://www.freep.com/article/20090715/NEWS05/90715030/1001/NEWS

jennifer is no where to be found... also on the forensic astro thread angelwhocares posted that her local news is saying that le may be going back again to search the apartment where neveah lived with grandma and mom...

The timing of this is interesting to me.... with some of the forensics back and all and now returning to the CA apartments.... also if you read the article I just linked above there is some interesting info about carpet fibers being found under Neveah's fingernails and the fact that LE had taken carpet samples from the apartment.

I am having a head scratching moment. And where is mommy??????
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The article states that the carpet samples were taken from the apartment above Neaveh's apartment (the apartment where Neaveh was playing the boy prior to missing). I read on another thread yesterday that Jennifer was staying at a friends house and not staying with her mother. I certainly hope that LE is keeping up with her whereabouts, it would really pi** me off if she disappeared. I feel like an arrest is very close. I have suspected JB since day 1 but I must admit, I have had a few doubts about the father of the little boy she was playing with, I don't know why but I do.

lonetraveler
07-15-2009, 02:53 PM
I just posted about my suspicions about the little boy's father without reading to catch up with the posts, now I see information about him. Scarey.

nursebeeme
07-15-2009, 03:09 PM
hold up! Are you all saying that AB is a SO???? I missed that somehow! This is incredibly bizarre if so! ****thud****

christine2448
07-15-2009, 03:17 PM
Haven't I heard in the past that RSO aren't allowd on MySpace? Anyone know? MySpace rules or law, if any?

ETA: MySpace Releases Names of 90000 Sex Offenders - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/technology/internet/04myspace.html)

nursebeeme
07-15-2009, 03:17 PM
WTH?!
Why didn't he pop up on other RSO sites before?! I know I checked him out and got nothing. Hell's Bells! This would put him above the other RSOs in the neighborhood since he had direct contact with her the day she turns up missing and dead!

Some of your original thoughts on him weren't deleted. I found a few:

is this the same AB? I just found the same rso as momtective but the addy for this AGB is not in Monroe... am I missing something? The pictures DO bear remarkable resemblance.....

nursebeeme
07-15-2009, 03:19 PM
Hi Christine2448!!! hugs to you!!!! Not sure about the myspace rule on rsos... but I do recall hearing something along those lines...

SeriouslySearching
07-15-2009, 03:24 PM
Haven't I heard in the past that RSO aren't allowd on MySpace? Anyone know? MySpace rules or law, if any?

ETA: MySpace Releases Names of 90000 Sex Offenders - NYTimes.com (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/technology/internet/04myspace.html)
You are correct. It is against the law for them to be on any social networking site connected to minors if they are not supposed to be contacting minors in any way.

gypsy gal
07-15-2009, 03:38 PM
Is AB the same man who was shown on TV upset after she went missing? I remember a man yelling about his sons best friend and I thought it was kind of inappropriate behavior at the time.

nursebeeme
07-15-2009, 03:38 PM
Looking at the photos on his myspace page...it is him (IMO).

if it is him... he needs to UPDATE HIS ADDRESS!

eta: sorry... I didn't mean to sound snippy.. it just pisses me off that if he is the same aaron B. and he is a sex offender with a bad addy... sigh....

SeriouslySearching
07-15-2009, 03:40 PM
Is AB the same man who was shown on TV upset after she went missing? I remember a man yelling about his sons best friend and I thought it was kind of inappropriate behavior at the time.I guess this AB is not the same man on the RSO list.

SeriouslySearching
07-15-2009, 03:44 PM
if it is him... he needs to UPDATE HIS ADDRESS!

eta: sorry... I didn't mean to sound snippy.. it just pisses me off that if he is the same aaron B. and he is a sex offender with a bad addy... sigh....If it is him...I have a feeling they will be "updating his addy" very soon.
ETA: IF it is him...and I guess now it has been determined it is not the same person. Uncanny tho!

christine2448
07-15-2009, 03:47 PM
if it is him... he needs to UPDATE HIS ADDRESS!

eta: sorry... I didn't mean to sound snippy.. it just pisses me off that if he is the same aaron B. and he is a sex offender with a bad addy... sigh....

AND it needs to be reported to myspace he is RSO w/profile.

nursebeeme
07-15-2009, 03:52 PM
I just have to say... good job momtective!!!

Chilly Willy
07-15-2009, 03:53 PM
hold up! Are you all saying that AB is a SO???? I missed that somehow! This is incredibly bizarre if so! ****thud****

We determined weeks ago that this is not the same guy. For one thing, there's a huge age difference.

Haddie McFaddies Mom
07-15-2009, 03:54 PM
They mentioned a Press Conference set for today at Monroe News (think it was based on ClickonDetroit story from last night). I've been logged onto both sites all day, keep refreshing,and still no word yet on a Presser.

jnTexas
07-15-2009, 03:55 PM
Well looks as though people need to search the RSO site for the names of their neighbors as it seems that 98% forget to register their new addresses! GRRR!!!!!

lonetraveler
07-15-2009, 03:56 PM
Is AB the same man who was shown on TV upset after she went missing? I remember a man yelling about his sons best friend and I thought it was kind of inappropriate behavior at the time.
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Yes it is the same man. When I first saw him so upset and in front of the cameras I thought he must have been Nevaeh's father but then found out that he was the neighbor whose son was playing with Nevaeh at his home just prior to missing.

SeriouslySearching
07-15-2009, 03:57 PM
We determined weeks ago that this is not the same guy. For one thing, there's a huge age difference.Gosh, go look at the photos tho! Especially the one which is a bit blurry, but his nose, his mouth, everything down to where is his mustache begins is on the money.

lonetraveler
07-15-2009, 03:58 PM
Well looks as though people need to search the RSO site for the names of their neighbors as it seems that 98% forget to register their new addresses! GRRR!!!!!
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You are so right Texas, but in this case I don't think it would have made any difference at all. JB most likely would have handed Nevaeh right over to him. We don't even know if JB did or didn't know that he was a RSO at this time.:furious:

Haddie McFaddies Mom
07-15-2009, 04:01 PM
We determined weeks ago that this is not the same guy. For one thing, there's a huge age difference.

Just caught your post. Thank you.
Between Lindsey and news of Nevaeh, I'm a bit Stressed Out :doh:

Think I'll step away from the computer.

Sorry.

Chilly Willy
07-15-2009, 04:07 PM
Gosh, go look at the photos tho! Especially the one which is a bit blurry, but his nose, his mouth, everything down to where is his mustache begins is on the money.


While they look similar, there are also some big differences, for instance one has flat ears, one has ears that stick out. There is also a five year age difference. The upstairs guy is not on the RSO list, and I think if's very irresponsible to say that he is.

SeriouslySearching
07-15-2009, 04:25 PM
While they look similar, there are also some big differences, for instance one has flat ears, one has ears that stick out. There is also a five year age difference. The upstairs guy is not on the RSO list, and I think if's very irresponsible to say that he is.Maybe he is lying about his age on myspace.

Maybe the angle of the camera makes his ears appear to be more flat than they really are.

Chilly Willy
07-15-2009, 04:31 PM
Maybe he is lying about his age on myspace.

Maybe the angle of the camera makes his ears appear to be more flat than they really are.

Both ears? There are more physical differences than just the ears, but regardless, do you think that LE would not have checked him out? He was one of the last people to see Nevaeh alive. It's not the same guy.

momtective
07-15-2009, 04:33 PM
While they look similar, there are also some big differences, for instance one has flat ears, one has ears that stick out. There is also a five year age difference. The upstairs guy is not on the RSO list, and I think if's very irresponsible to say that he is.

FWIW I don't know if A Baker who is a neighbor of Nevaeh's mother is or is not a RSO. I do think the the A baker who IS a RSO registered in Haslett MI looks an awful lot like neighbor guy Aaron. Haslett MI is less than 2 hours from Monroe. Investigators have taken carpet fiber samples from neighbor guys apartment, neighbor guy Aaron was the last adult we know of to have seen Nevaeh alive and I don't exactly remember the details here but at some point Nevaeh went home because somebody had to go to the store...could it have been Aaron's family that went to the store? Maybe Nevaeh went back up to neighbor Aaron's apartment after his family was gone...who knows...
As for being irresponsible in saying neighbor guy Aaron is on an RSO list...I never said that. I just find the resemblance between the two is simply uncanny and would appreciate the opinions of others.
RSO or not I do believe neighbor guy Aaron should be considered a person of interest and apparently he is since they have taken samples of his carpet, they just haven't said so in so many words.

SeriouslySearching
07-15-2009, 04:40 PM
Both ears? There are more physical differences than just the ears, but regardless, do you think that LE would not have checked him out? He was one of the last people to see Nevaeh alive. It's not the same guy.I think LE is testing his carpet right now to see if it matches fibers found under her fingernails. It would seem to me they are still checking him out.

A Baker wasn't listed for whatever reason on any of the sites I looked at from LE, but here this one shows up on Familywatchdog. Now...if he isn't being listed on their own sites...how are they going to check him out adequately?


ETA: IF it is him. Yet to be determined, I guess.

Chilly Willy
07-15-2009, 04:46 PM
I think LE is testing his carpet right now to see if it matches fibers found under her fingernails. It would seem to me they are still checking him out.

He wasn't listed for whatever reason on any of the sites I looked at from LE, but here this one shows up on Familywatchdog. Now...if he isn't being listed on their own sites...how are they going to check him out adequately?


The older Baker IS listed on the Michigan State Police sex offenders list. The way I understand it, all the apartments in the complex have the same carpeting. LE took a sample of Aaron's carpet because he was home and no one answered at the grandmother's apartment. I think LE is trying to exclude the fibers as coming from the apartment complex.

eyes4crime
07-15-2009, 04:50 PM
The important thing is that they are getting closer and closer to putting this monster away. Carpet fibers and dirt in the lungs are all excellent clues (maybe hair fibers). The dirt in the lungs may have specific clues as to where and when she was first buried. This pedophile is really sick!

Chilly Willy
07-15-2009, 05:04 PM
According to the articles posted on the daily thread, carpet samples were taken from many people's apartments.

I think this is so incredibly sad. Aaron's son was Nevaeh's friend. The entire family was fond of Nevaeh. Aaron has, according to all reports, been very helpful and cooperative with LE, even allowing them to take carpet samples from his apartment. And now strangers on the internet are falsely accusing him of being a sex offender and considering reporting him as such to myspace. Sometimes we take our "sleuthing" too far, and innocent grieving people get hurt. :(

momtective
07-15-2009, 05:09 PM
According to the articles posted on the daily thread, carpet samples were taken from many people's apartments.

I think this is so incredibly sad. Aaron's son was Nevaeh's friend. The entire family was fond of Nevaeh. Aaron has, according to all reports, been very helpful and cooperative with LE, even allowing them to take carpet samples from his apartment. And now strangers on the internet are falsely accusing him of being a sex offender and considering reporting him as such to myspace. Sometimes we take our "sleuthing" too far, and innocent grieving people get hurt. :(

If it'll make you feel better Chilly, I'll edit my post with the comparison pics

Chilly Willy
07-15-2009, 05:18 PM
If it'll make you feel better Chilly, I'll edit my post with the comparison pics

:blowkiss: Thanks, mom, although it's likely that a few weeks from now someone will find the older Aaron on the RSO offenders list and this same thing will happen again. I don't know if there's any way to avoid it.

mistivon
07-15-2009, 05:20 PM
omg, that poor poor baby...buried alive is my greatest fear, and I'm an adult....Please Lord, let her have been unconscious, or deeply drugged.
This Aaron Baker.....we wondered about him in the beginning, but I did not remember the SO info. I would not be surprised if his carpet matches under her fingernails.....what would the excuse be? That she and his son were wrestling?

momtective
07-15-2009, 05:57 PM
Okay...I sleuthed a little further and found that Aaron neighbor guy and Aaron RSO are NOT the same person. verified through veromi.com

SeriouslySearching
07-15-2009, 06:14 PM
If it'll make you feel better Chilly, I'll edit my post with the comparison picsI deleted some of mine and edited others. However, the resemblence is so uncanny. Is the name the same?

momtective
07-15-2009, 07:39 PM
I deleted some of mine and edited others. However, the resemblence is so uncanny. Is the name the same?

One's middle name is Glen the other is William...

kiki the parrot
07-15-2009, 08:01 PM
I can not even bring myself to imagine those last horrific breaths, I pray whoever did this is identified and convicted before they can harm another precious child. :furious:

:praying:

:parrot:

Beyond Belief
07-15-2009, 10:21 PM
hearing the horrible news tonight has definitely sent me in a state of shock. i hope this monster is put behind bars soon.:mad:

AmandaReckonwith
07-15-2009, 10:59 PM
Is AB the same man who was shown on TV upset after she went missing? I remember a man yelling about his sons best friend and I thought it was kind of inappropriate behavior at the time.


Nevaeh Buchanan :: 6/4 Community reaction when body is found video by crankycrankerson - Photobucket

Chilly Willy
07-15-2009, 11:17 PM
Nevaeh Buchanan :: 6/4 Community reaction when body is found video by crankycrankerson - Photobucket (http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Nevaeh%20Buchanan/?action=view&current=046.flv)


Thanks. I didn't see anything at all inappropriate in his comments. In the video, he looks nothing like that other guy we discussed earlier in the thread.

AmandaReckonwith
07-16-2009, 12:10 AM
Rumors and reports also have Jennifer painted very unfairly.

She isn't missing. Her aunt never said she was, just said she hadn't seen her, that she could be anywhere.

Video clears it up a bit, but it seems buried alive isn't sensational enough, they (news crews) want a Casey case (jackpot) in Monroe.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/20065585/index.html

and saved here for when the vid disappears:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Nevaeh%20Buchanan/?action=view&current=001-7.flv

gypsy gal
07-16-2009, 03:53 PM
My hinky meter went off when I saw AB so emotional about Nevaeh in front of the cameras. I remember thinking if your son is upset and confused then you should be comforting him and not be in front of the cameras. Children get more upset when their parents are having emotional outbursts.

scandi
07-16-2009, 04:09 PM
My hinky meter went off when I saw AB so emotional about Nevaeh in front of the cameras. I remember thinking if your son is upset and confused then you should be comforting him and not be in front of the cameras. Children get more upset when their parents are having emotional outbursts.

Hi Gypsy gal, Somehow I missed this guy. Have they taken carpet samples from his apt? Do you have a photo of him? xox

ETA: Oops, I found it right above!

"You deserve everything this little girl has gotten", a strange thing for Mr Baker to say! I wonder how he knew she ate her last meal at 3:30 with his family? I thought she went missing early evening?

momtective
07-16-2009, 04:13 PM
Hi Gypsy gal, Somehow I missed this guy. Have they taken carpet samples from his apt? Do you have a photo of him? xox

http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/Nevaeh%20Buchanan/AaronBakeralone.jpg
and yes, carpet samples have been taken from his apt.

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 04:39 PM
and yes, carpet samples have been taken from his apt.

Isn't it true that carpet samples have been taken from other tenants' apartments as well, including the apartment where Nevaeh lived with her mom and grandma?

My understanding is that the same color / type of carpet is uniform throughout the complex but maybe I misread something? Even if it's true that the same color / type carpet is used throughout the complex, that doesn't mean the carpet fibers would be uniform.

Although the management / owners of the building may have ordered the carpet from the same source, not every carpet would necessarily have the same 'scientific' markers. Every lot of carpet would be just a bit different, imo.

I'm not totally convinced that LE has singled AB out. I think it's likely they're attempting to compare the carpet fibers in his apartment to those in the apartment Nevaeh lived in. :confused:

DotsEyes
07-16-2009, 05:16 PM
RE: The upstairs neighbor, Mr. Baker.

Was Austin's mother home at 3:30pm?

Baker is the step-father, correct?

Of course LE will be looking at this man and the apartment, he is the last adult person, other than JB, known to have seen NB.

I don't think there is anything "hinkey" about him being upset over MB's disappearance. I would be too under the same circumstances.

scandi
07-16-2009, 05:23 PM
Isn't it true that carpet samples have been taken from other tenants' apartments as well, including the apartment where Nevaeh lived with her mom and grandma?

My understanding is that the same color / type of carpet is uniform throughout the complex but maybe I misread something? Even if it's true that the same color / type carpet is used throughout the complex, that doesn't mean the carpet fibers would be uniform.

Although the management / owners of the building may have ordered the carpet from the same source, not every carpet would necessarily have the same 'scientific' markers. Every lot of carpet would be just a bit different, imo.

I'm not totally convinced that LE has singled AB out. I think it's likely they're attempting to compare the carpet fibers in his apartment to those in the apartment Nevaeh lived in. :confused:

Hi Magic Eyes, I bet they took fibers from her home as a control measure to first compare what was found under her nails and then work out to other units where she had been. xox

Chilly Willy
07-16-2009, 05:56 PM
Hi Gypsy gal, Somehow I missed this guy. Have they taken carpet samples from his apt? Do you have a photo of him? xox

ETA: Oops, I found it right above!

"You deserve everything this little girl has gotten", a strange thing for Mr Baker to say! I wonder how he knew she ate her last meal at 3:30 with his family? I thought she went missing early evening?


I imagine he knows that Nevaeh had her last meal with them at 3:30 because Jennifer has said that she did not feed Nevaeh after that.

I don't think that was a strange thing for Mr. Baker to say at all. I've expressed the same sentiment - these child molesters and murderers should suffer the same torture that they inflicted on their victims.

If LE had any reason to believe that this man is a suspect they would not leave him in that apartment with children. I really wish people would leave him and his family alone and let them grieve in peace.

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 05:57 PM
RE: The upstairs neighbor, Mr. Baker.


I don't think there is anything "hinkey" about him being upset over MB's disappearance. I would be too under the same circumstances.

Hi DotsEyes,

I agree with you, FWIW. I suppose it's the nature of a crime forum that some people are going to look at every single person with suspicion.

I haven't done a lot of reading on this particular thread, but I'm familiar with the case, nonetheless, because of my proximity to the area.

I think, initially, most of us thought this case would be a 'slam dunk' with one of JB's RSO buddies being the culprit. With each passing day, I'm doubting that to be the case, though.

I'm just a bit astonished that some people posting are putting out names and links to people that very likely have nothing to do with the case. Sorry if that upsets anyone. JMO.

fortytwo
07-16-2009, 06:14 PM
I imagine he knows that Nevaeh had her last meal with them at 3:30 because Jennifer has said that she did not feed Nevaeh after that.

I don't think that was a strange thing for Mr. Baker to say at all. I've expressed the same sentiment - these child molesters and murderers should suffer the same torture that they inflicted on their victims.

If LE had any reason to believe that this man is a suspect they would not leave him in that apartment with children. I really wish people would leave him and his family alone and let them grieve in peace.
Over time, as I have observed various discussions of various cases a common theme seems to have developed.

Once a conclusion is reached that any particular person may be guilty it is often quite impossible for that person to say or do anything which isn't regarded as suspicious.

If they are emotional then somehow they are too emotional. If not, then they aren't showing enough. Any statement made will somehow be suspicious, and any lack of suspicious behavior is proof of what excellent actors sociopaths are.

This sort of assessment will continue unabated until the next target is fixated upon.

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 06:16 PM
Hi Magic Eyes, I bet they took fibers from her home as a control measure to first compare what was found under her nails and then work out to other units where she had been. xox

Thanks, scandi. :) I agree that carpet fibers have been taken from more than one apartment in the complex.

My point is that just because LE took carpet fibers from AB's apartment doesn't necessarily mean that LE has determined that he's the prime suspect.

I appreciate your taking time to respond to my post! I think everyone who's posted to this thread wants to see the murderer of this poor baby arrested. I just don't think it's productive for some to post names and give links to those names when even LE hasn't announced whom they actually suspect.

As I mentioned in another post, I suppose it's the nature of a crime forum for everyone (or nearly everyone) to be suspicious of anyone living within a certain mile radius of that poor baby.

I guess I'm not used to this type of forum where people are willing to post names and links to people's myspace or facebook pages without irrefutable evidence that these people actually had something to do with the crime.

Maybe I'm just naive despite my (cough) rather advanced age, though. :)

scandi
07-16-2009, 06:20 PM
Hi DotsEyes,

I agree with you, FWIW. I suppose it's the nature of a crime forum that some people are going to look at every single person with suspicion.

I haven't done a lot of reading on this particular thread, but I'm familiar with the case, nonetheless, because of my proximity to the area.

I think, initially, most of us thought this case would be a 'slam dunk' with one of JB's RSO buddies being the culprit. With each passing day, I'm doubting that to be the case, though.

I'm just a bit astonished that some people posting are putting out names and links to people that very likely have nothing to do with the case. Sorry if that upsets anyone. JMO.


Hi Magic Eyes, DotsEyes and ChillyWilly, I appreciate your viewpoint and do agree it can get carried away.

Here as sleuthers we try to leave no stone unturned and so in mentioning someone like this we usually don't use full names. It is why here I would say Mr Baker.

I do feel there is a reason for us to look at this man. We have no idea if he is involved or not. But in this murder investigation LE has taken samples from his carpet - which would not be control samples. And he was also one of the very last people to see Nevaeh alive.

On those two counts I think we are well within reason to take a look at him. xox

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 06:21 PM
Over time, as I have observed various discussions of various cases a common theme seems to have developed.

Once a conclusion is reached that any particular person may be guilty it is often quite impossible for that person to say or do anything which isn't regarded as suspicious.

If they are emotional then somehow they are too emotional. If not, then they aren't showing enough. Any statement made will somehow be suspicious, and any lack of suspicious behavior is proof of what excellent actors sociopaths are.

This sort of assessment will continue unabated until the next target is fixated upon.

Thank you, fortytwo! You managed to say exactly what I was thinking but I couldn't find the right words.

scandi
07-16-2009, 06:35 PM
Thanks, scandi. :) I agree that carpet fibers have been taken from more than one apartment in the complex.

My point is that just because LE took carpet fibers from AB's apartment doesn't necessarily mean that LE has determined that he's the prime suspect.

I appreciate your taking time to respond to my post! I think everyone who's posted to this thread wants to see the murderer of this poor baby arrested. I just don't think it's productive for some to post names and give links to those names when even LE hasn't announced whom they actually suspect.

As I mentioned in another post, I suppose it's the nature of a crime forum for everyone (or nearly everyone) to be suspicious of anyone living within a certain mile radius of that poor baby.

I guess I'm not used to this type of forum where people are willing to post names and links to people's myspace or facebook pages without irrefutable evidence that these people actually had something to do with the crime.

Maybe I'm just naive despite my (cough) rather advanced age, though. :)


Hi Magic Eyes, I just saw your new post and must say I do like the way you make a presentation here ;} And you couldn't be much older than lil 'ole me! LOLOLOL

I still think LE wouldn't have taken samples from his carpet unless they had a reason. And he probably isn't involved at all. If LE has overtly put him in the picture by cutting out a piece of his carpet, that is a red flag for most sleuthers.

I'll balance that out with another example where I felt the person should not have been posted about on our forum with the info we had.

We were told this person didn't like a little girl who has gone missing, Lindsey Baum. This person's info was posted and the poster took care to camoflage the name. But this person's address was written right out there which I felt was wrong to do.

In that case I as a poster here didn't think the possibility this person didn't like her and happened to live close to a street where she might have passed by on her way home, a valild reason to expose that person as was done.

I think we need to take this carefully, individual by individual. And when it is warranted and TOS is maintained, we also know WS sleuthers will turn over even the tiniest stone to see if something is lurking beneath. xox

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 06:54 PM
Thanks again, Scandi for taking time to respond to my confusion in such a detailed way.

I'm not ashamed to admit that I have some comprehension issues. I have medical issues that leave me in constant pain, and my physical pain leaves me kinda 'out of it' for a good portion of the day and night.

I'm still trying to get used to how much smarter all of the rest of you are than me. I do appreciate the patience some of you show toward me, but I still struggle with how much info some people are posting about others that most likely have nothing to do with Neveah's disappearance.

Again, I appreciate your time and patience. Thank you, again. :)

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 07:10 PM
Hi Magic Eyes, I just saw your new post and must say I do like the way you make a presentation here ;} And you couldn't be much older than lil 'ole me! LOLOLOL

I still think LE wouldn't have taken samples from his carpet unless they had a reason. And he probably isn't involved at all. If LE has overtly put him in the picture by cutting out a piece of his carpet, that is a red flag for most sleuthers.

I'll balance that out with another example where I felt the person should not have been posted about on our forum with the info we had.

We were told this person didn't like a little girl who has gone missing, Lindsey Baum. This person's info was posted and the poster took care to camoflage the name. But this person's address was written right out there which I felt was wrong to do.

xox

Hi again, Scandi!

But that's what I'm trying to convey in my own way. When a person's address is posted without absolute proof that the person was involved in the crime, that doesn't sit well with me.

Those kinds of actions taint the real investigation and prejudice other people into believing what someone might post without solid evidence.

I'm not trying to be difficult or confrontational here, but many months before I registered here at WS, I remember seeing an episode of NG.

The focus of that particular episode of NG was that a poster from WS had made public some YouTube videos regarding the Caylee Anthony case. Supposedly (from what I heard on NG), was that a poster on WS had saved the YouTube videos for altruistic purposes. She then posted them claiming she only saved them so that KC couldn't later sell them.

The consensus on NG and her talking heads was that the poster from WS had done more for the defense rather than the prosecution since the YouTube videos that were saved and posted actually portrayed KC as sympathetic and loving toward Caylee.

I just hate to see evidence tainted in either direction. JMO, as usual.

scandi
07-16-2009, 08:04 PM
Hi again, Scandi!

But that's what I'm trying to convey in my own way. When a person's address is posted without absolute proof that the person was involved in the crime, that doesn't sit well with me.

Those kinds of actions taint the real investigation and prejudice other people into believing what someone might post without solid evidence.

I'm not trying to be difficult or confrontational here, but many months before I registered here at WS, I remember seeing an episode of NG.

The focus of that particular episode of NG was that a poster from WS had made public some YouTube videos regarding the Caylee Anthony case. Supposedly (from what I heard on NG), was that a poster on WS had saved the YouTube videos for altruistic purposes. She then posted them claiming she only saved them so that KC couldn't later sell them.

The consensus on NG and her talking heads was that the poster from WS had done more for the defense rather than the prosecution since the YouTube videos that were saved and posted actually portrayed KC as sympathetic and loving toward Caylee.

I just hate to see evidence tainted in either direction. JMO, as usual.


On that we do agree. And I still think there has to be something pertinent or possibly relating to the case to bring someone into our discussions here.

RSO's, I have no problem bring them here to discuss in a missing child case and we usually still use their initials. They are one exception I agree with, and usually LE has already had them in the box anyway regarding the case.

I am sorry about your pain Magic Eyes and am glad to see you here at Websleuths. xox

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 08:10 PM
I very well remember the name of the WS poster who was interviewed on NG and claimed she had 'saved' the YouTube videos so that KC could never profit from them.

This same person has insinuated herself into the NB case in an ugly way. My point is this: Some people who claim to be 'websleuths' do far more harm than good.

I'll shut up for now unless someone requests that I share further opinions on how this one person has confounded and confused issues in more than one case. :)

Chilly Willy
07-16-2009, 08:11 PM
Hi Magic Eyes, DotsEyes and ChillyWilly, I appreciate your viewpoint and do agree it can get carried away.

Here as sleuthers we try to leave no stone unturned and so in mentioning someone like this we usually don't use full names. It is why here I would say Mr Baker.

I do feel there is a reason for us to look at this man. We have no idea if he is involved or not. But in this murder investigation LE has taken samples from his carpet - which would not be control samples. And he was also one of the very last people to see Nevaeh alive.

On those two counts I think we are well within reason to take a look at him. xox

If LE had shown up at Baker's apartment with a search warrant for the carpet fibers, that would make me very suspicious. However, that's not what happened. LE took samples from many apartments. The samples were freely given by the tenants. Baker freely gave a sample. I'm sure he's willing to do whatever he can to help find the killer of his son's best friend. Unless and until LE states that he's a person of interest, and I don't believe they will, we should leave him alone, IMO.

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 08:20 PM
On that we do agree. And I still think there has to be something pertinent or possibly relating to the case to bring someone into our discussions here.

I am sorry about your pain Magic Eyes and am glad to see you here at Websleuths. xox

Thanks again, Scandi for your kind words. I still will never reconcile people on a forum (albeit a crime forum) for making blatant accusations against people who probably don't have anything at all to with the publicized crime.

Like I said in an earlier post, WAY before I ever registered to post here, I heard a member of WS interviewed on NG. This person claimed she had 'preserved' YouTube videos of KC with Caylee in order to prevent KC from later selling the vids.

The bottom line from NG and her talking heads was that the 'revelation' of these 'secret videos' was that they helped the defense more than the prosecution.

It's just unbelievable to me that some people who think they're 'helping' actually do more harm than good.

And since I've registered to post here, I've never seen that woman apologize for helping the defense more than the prosecution. She seems comfortable with her decision even though it's likely that KC will be seen as more involved and sympathetic in the eyes of potential jurists than she would have been seen if this ONE person on WS hadn't had to claim a bit of fame for herself.

scandi
07-16-2009, 08:29 PM
If LE had shown up at Baker's apartment with a search warrant for the carpet fibers, that would make me very suspicious. However, that's not what happened. LE took samples from many apartments. The samples were freely given by the tenants. Baker freely gave a sample. I'm sure he's willing to do whatever he can to help find the killer of his son's best friend. Unless and until LE states that he's a person of interest, and I don't believe they will, we should leave him alone, IMO.

That is an interesting point Chilly as it is not the way LE usually works in a murder case.

I guess I missed that he gave the sample willingly w/out a SW. I don't however think he would have to be a POI in order for them to collect evidence from him. It would seem there would be cause for a warrant for his apt just because he was one of the last to see her and his carpet must be similar to the fibres. If the fibers matched then I would think he could become a POI.

I'm going to have to go back and read the article, as I assumed these would be warranted searches and by the book in trying to match a few fibres to find her killer. xox

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 08:34 PM
If LE had shown up at Baker's apartment with a search warrant for the carpet fibers, that would make me very suspicious. However, that's not what happened. LE took samples from many apartments. The samples were freely given by the tenants. Baker freely gave a sample. I'm sure he's willing to do whatever he can to help find the killer of his son's best friend. Unless and until LE states that he's a person of interest, and I don't believe they will, we should leave him alone, IMO.

ChillyWilly,

Thank you! That's been exactly what I've said all along. I know that some of the 'sleuths' here think they know more, or have better info than LE, but I'm tired of the self-importance that some seem to display.

It offends me that some people are willing to draw conclusions based on pics that 'look like' someone else and then proclaim that the resemblance means a direct connection to the crime.

Maybe I'm just not cut out for this kind of forum. I only joined to post on the MJ threads, after all. But after seeing the Nevaeh thread, I stupidly posted on this board as well since I'm in such close proximity to the area.

I guess I'm just not willing to assign blame to neighbors as readily as some posters here are willing to assign it.

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 09:08 PM
That is an interesting point Chilly as it is not the way LE usually works in a murder case.

I guess I missed that he gave the sample willingly w/out a SW. I don't however think he would have to be a POI in order for them to collect evidence from him. It would seem there would be cause for a warrant for his apt just because he was one of the last to see her and his carpet must be similar to the fibres. If the fibers matched then I would think he could become a POI.

I'm going to have to go back and read the article, as I assumed these would be warranted searches and by the book in trying to match a few fibres to find her killer. xox

Hi again, Scandi,

As posted earlier, it's likely that some of the fibers from all apartments will match since the complex had the same carpet in all units.

What is questionable to me is whether all fibers will match since the management of the complex likely used the same suppliers. Even considering that the same suppliers were used to lay carpet throughout the entire complex, not every single carpet would come from the same lot.

Therefore, there will be substantial differences between various apartments. I'm still convinced that the 'control samples' that were taken from other tenants were intended to compare to the apartment carpet fibers from the unit Nevaeh lived in with her mom and grandma.

I'm not one for drawing conclusions or spreading rumors, but my belief is that JB knows more than she's telling. JMO, as usual.

jnTexas
07-16-2009, 10:27 PM
Hi again, Scandi,

As posted earlier, it's likely that some of the fibers from all apartments will match since the complex had the same carpet in all units.

What is questionable to me is whether all fibers will match since the management of the complex likely used the same suppliers. Even considering that the same suppliers were used to lay carpet throughout the entire complex, not every single carpet would come from the same lot.

Therefore, there will be substantial differences between various apartments. I'm still convinced that the 'control samples' that were taken from other tenants were intended to compare to the apartment carpet fibers from the unit Nevaeh lived in with her mom and grandma.

I'm not one for drawing conclusions or spreading rumors, but my belief is that JB knows more than she's telling. JMO, as usual.

I totally agree with you on all points of your post. I also think there is a good chance that dust and other particles that fall on carpet would attach to the fiber and would be unique to that home. Also apartment complexes sometimes replace carpet if it is to dirty when someone move out. so there is a good chance not all of the apartments have the same lot or dye run in the carpet.

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 10:40 PM
I totally agree with you on all points of your post. I also think there is a good chance that dust and other particles that fall on carpet would attach to the fiber and would be unique to that home. Also apartment complexes sometimes replace carpet if it is to dirty when someone move out. so there is a good chance not all of the apartments have the same lot or dye run in the carpet.

Hi jnTexas!

Exactly my point! There's a reason that LE took carpet samples from more than one apartment, and to me it does NOT point to the guilt of AB.

It's most likely going to point to Nevaeh's own apartment that she shared with her mom and GM.

Magic Eyes
07-16-2009, 10:50 PM
Not to be mean, but since I live in close proximity to the area, I stopped into the grocery store where Nevaeh's GM works two weeks ago.

She was cheerful, and didn't appear grief stricken at all. She was joking with me and everyone else within hearing distance.

She's never seemed to really care about what happened except in the first few days. Maybe that's normal for her, but it's NOT normal to me. :(

sfbaynancydrew
07-16-2009, 11:36 PM
Magic, I sort of understand what you are saying. I was new when I joined this board and didn't realize that just "talking out loud" was going to be a google click away. I tried to edit out instances I used people's names but unfortunately it had been quoted by other members too many times. And now...there isn't much I can do. I tried to take it to a private group back when those were available for no other reason that to have a place to brainstorm withOUT publically implicating anyone. The feedback from peers is really helpful. And then they deleted all of the private groups without warning and all that info went bye-bye.

Ah well, live and learn. I've been pretty quiet about it since.

People also need to be responsible for what they do/say/put on their very accessible public myspace pages as well, so I wouldn't feel too badly about people posting links to those. It's a risk they take by not making them private. At least on Facebook you can set it so no one can search for you at all.

Edited to add: that I do think it's important for people not to get too carried away with "theories". You can't be emotional when you're researching or go by your "gut". You have to only look at evidence objectively as it's presented in front of you.

sfbaynancydrew
07-16-2009, 11:40 PM
Not to be mean, but since I live in close proximity to the area, I stopped into the grocery store where Nevaeh's GM works two weeks ago.

She was cheerful, and didn't appear grief stricken at all. She was joking with me and everyone else within hearing distance.

She's never seemed to really care about what happened except in the first few days. Maybe that's normal for her, but it's NOT normal to me. :(


You never know, it may be the only time all day that she smiles.

Haddie McFaddies Mom
07-17-2009, 12:31 AM
Not to be mean, but since I live in close proximity to the area, I stopped into the grocery store where Nevaeh's GM works two weeks ago.

She was cheerful, and didn't appear grief stricken at all. She was joking with me and everyone else within hearing distance.

She's never seemed to really care about what happened except in the first few days. Maybe that's normal for her, but it's NOT normal to me. :(

Hi Magic Eyes ~

There is a You Tube video that Angel Who Cares posted in another thread. It is dated 7/12/09 and I'm not sure, but you may have missed it. It is the longest interview with Sherry that I have seen in a while, and regardless of what I think happened, I find it heart wrenching knowing what we know now. This interview would have been prior to the release of the autopsy findings.

Personally, I don't know how any of the family will ever be able to close their eyes at night and sleep. How could you, with the weight of such horror, guilt and grief knowing what Nevaeh's last hours on this earth must have entailed?

You can find it on this page: It is Post #62 by Angel Who Cares
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=84984&page=3

scandi
07-17-2009, 01:10 AM
Hi again, Scandi,

As posted earlier, it's likely that some of the fibers from all apartments will match since the complex had the same carpet in all units.

What is questionable to me is whether all fibers will match since the management of the complex likely used the same suppliers. Even considering that the same suppliers were used to lay carpet throughout the entire complex, not every single carpet would come from the same lot.

Therefore, there will be substantial differences between various apartments. I'm still convinced that the 'control samples' that were taken from other tenants were intended to compare to the apartment carpet fibers from the unit Nevaeh lived in with her mom and grandma.

I'm not one for drawing conclusions or spreading rumors, but my belief is that JB knows more than she's telling. JMO, as usual.

I think we pretty much agree ;}

I also agree with jnTexas post following yours, in that the carpet in each unit will have forensic differences. Even if the fibers were from the same co and are a match in composition and weave, they will have taken on their own environmental characteristics. Things like smoking, cat hair, certain carpet shampoos, etc, would all be reflected in the fibres IMO

Also the fibres might have something unique either spilled or stuck to them that might lead to matching whatever that is with a particular carpet.


In the links I have read, I haven't read that more than JB or Nevaeh's friends apt having carpet pulled. Even on JVM's show tonight she only mentioned 2 apts in ref to the carpet. It was that father who was the one who said he had heard or seen LE out and about in the complex collecting samples. Who knows. I'm not trying to be snarky, just factual. xox

doobiedoo52
07-17-2009, 12:18 PM
I think we pretty much agree ;}

I also agree with jnTexas post following yours, in that the carpet in each unit will have forensic differences. Even if the fibers were from the same co and are a match in composition and weave, they will have taken on their own environmental characteristics. Things like smoking, cat hair, certain carpet shampoos, etc, would all be reflected in the fibres IMO

Also the fibres might have something unique either spilled or stuck to them that might lead to matching whatever that is with a particular carpet.


In the links I have read, I haven't read that more than JB or Nevaeh's friends apt having carpet pulled. Even on JVM's show tonight she only mentioned 2 apts in ref to the carpet. It was that father who was the one who said he had heard or seen LE out and about in the complex collecting samples. Who knows. I'm not trying to be snarky, just factual. xox


I agree, Scandi. I was thinking the same--especially carpet cleaner residue in particular. People use different brands with different chemicals in them. I also heard only two apartments. I am also wondering if LE would even have to give a tenant a search warrant for the fibers. I would think the owner would have been given the warrant to collect evidence, not the tenant since carpet is a permanent fixture in the building itself. JMO but if they found carpet fibers they may have a specific color of carpet as well and it may have been narrowed down to a color that is used in the apartment complex. Often that is a neutral shade of tan, light brown, etc. Possibly not a color usually found in trunk linings and narrowing down the search again.

eyes4crime
07-17-2009, 02:37 PM
Can't figure out why the perp would put Nevaeh's clothes in the shallow grave site. do you think he wanted to make sure she was identified when found? Sort of like - bragging...

Any thoughts? TIA

A_Closer_Look
07-17-2009, 02:53 PM
Can't figure out why the perp would put Nevaeh's clothes in the shallow grave site. do you think he wanted to make sure she was identified when found? Sort of like - bragging...

Any thoughts? TIA

I think the perp was clueless and thought that their little 'concrete' layer would forever keep little Nevaeh hidden from the world. I think they put her clothes in there so that they'd never be found, figuring if they put them anywhere else, they might be found (trash, tossed out on highway, etc..)

I think the perp is a clueless coward.

I also think the results from the carpet fibers will answer many of our questions. I know it's not what anyone wants to believe or hear, but I think it's what is coming. I think JB knows exactly what happened.

Just my opinion.

eyes4crime
07-17-2009, 03:35 PM
I think the perp was clueless and thought that their little 'concrete' layer would forever keep little Nevaeh hidden from the world. I think they put her clothes in there so that they'd never be found, figuring if they put them anywhere else, they might be found (trash, tossed out on highway, etc..)

I think the perp is a clueless coward.

I also think the results from the carpet fibers will answer many of our questions. I know it's not what anyone wants to believe or hear, but I think it's what is coming. I think JB knows exactly what happened.

Just my opinion.

Also, I'm wondering if Nevaeh had shoes on....she was supposedly riding her scooter and I doubt she would be barefoot. Did they find her shoes in the grave site? Why not just throw her clothes in the river?

I agree - the fibers under her nails and most likely in her lungs will tell us a great deal. Fibers carry with them unique characteristics such as dog hairs, dander, shampoo films, particulate dust matter etc. The dirt in her mouth would carry fertilizers, potted plant fillers, spores etc. Both carpet fibers and dirt can be very unique and can help identify specifies. Nevaeh's stomach contents would tell what her last meal was. Lots of forensics. moo

I'm not so sure that this twisted, loser perp didn't want her found. mho

lonetraveler
07-17-2009, 03:49 PM
Can't figure out why the perp would put Nevaeh's clothes in the shallow grave site. do you think he wanted to make sure she was identified when found? Sort of like - bragging...

Any thoughts? TIA
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In the perp's own twisted mind, he was probably just thinking that he was disposing of any evidence that could lead to him.

sfbaynancydrew
07-17-2009, 04:04 PM
eyes, I seem to recall she was indeed barefoot.

I hate the think this, but what if she was lured into a neighbor's apartment as she skipped about the complex by someone who was just opportunistic? Which would explain why the outside which was bustling with kids and adults didn't notice anything out of place--or recall even seeing Nevaeh.

eyes4crime
07-17-2009, 04:18 PM
eyes, I seem to recall she was indeed barefoot.

I hate the think this, but what if she was lured into a neighbor's apartment as she skipped about the complex by someone who was just opportunistic? Which would explain why the outside which was bustling with kids and adults didn't notice anything out of place--or recall even seeing Nevaeh.

That could be! Doesn't explain the concrete though...

I'm sure LE have checked to see if anyone had their carpets replaced or cleaned in the week or two after Nevaeh went missing. Seems to me that the particulate matter (powder) that makes up dry concrete could be found in the carpet of cars, car trunks, home carpets etc. I think LE knows exactly what they are looking for.

scandi
07-17-2009, 04:46 PM
Me too! If LE doesn't have a bead on her abductor at this point I'll be flippin' amazed! I think they have a very good idea or know who it is but they have to back it up so they have a court proof case before an arrest is made. IMO

eyes4crime
07-17-2009, 05:11 PM
Me too! If LE doesn't have a bead on her abductor at this point I'll be flippin' amazed! I think they have a very good idea or know who it is but they have to back it up so they have a court proof case before an arrest is made. IMO

Hi scandi...seems to me LE are trying to 'rule out' at this point. In addition to having a perp sick enough to not care if Nevaeh was breathing or not, you have one who went through the trouble of burying her in cement along a particular fishing bank, with her clothes beneath her!!! Certainly not your usual pedophile. There's no room for mistakes in this one...once arrested, the evidence MUST be able to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. This sick monster should never see the light of day again. moo

I can't seem to get faces in my comments..that would help explain my outrage!

Haddie McFaddies Mom
07-17-2009, 07:20 PM
I wish they would just release the information ... was she sexually molested or not :( Poor Baby. I can't believe we have to ask these questions about a little child)

The worlds gone mad I tell ya ~ Stop The Madness !!!

(red faced smiley with flames coming out his nose inserted here)

momtective
07-17-2009, 07:55 PM
I wish they would just release the information ... was she sexually molested or not :( Poor Baby. I can't believe we have to ask these questions about a little child)

The worlds gone mad I tell ya ~ Stop The Madness !!!

(red faced smiley with flames coming out his nose inserted here)

:furious:
LOL here ya go HMM

LaLaw2000
07-17-2009, 11:48 PM
I think what LE primarily wanted was a carpet fiber sample from the upstairs apartment of Nevaeh's friend where she had been that afternoon, and a carpet fiber sample from her own apartment to compare the two. IMO, LE will know pretty quickly which apartment the fibers that were under Nevaeh's nails came from.

The carpet in the two apartments might not have been installed at the same time and could have come from 2 different lots. I really do not think it would take the lab very long to compare the fibers and determine which apartment they came from.

I wonder if the dirt found in Nevaeh's throat and lungs was actually mixed with concrete dust? That would certainly imply that she was buried alive if any concrete dust was mixed in.

Hearing of Nevaeh being buried in concrete was bad enough. Now it is thought she was buried alive. I hope we know more soon. I am thoroughly sickened by what this little girl had to endure.

scandi
07-17-2009, 11:57 PM
Hi scandi...seems to me LE are trying to 'rule out' at this point. In addition to having a perp sick enough to not care if Nevaeh was breathing or not, you have one who went through the trouble of burying her in cement along a particular fishing bank, with her clothes beneath her!!! Certainly not your usual pedophile. There's no room for mistakes in this one...once arrested, the evidence MUST be able to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt. This sick monster should never see the light of day again. moo

I can't seem to get faces in my comments..that would help explain my outrage!
You are right about he is not your average pedophile. He made her suffer while dying.

We don't know if he even was a pedo as we don't know if she was abused that way before she died. But she was naked so I just have this feeling he was.

scandi
07-18-2009, 12:05 AM
I think what LE primarily wanted was a carpet fiber sample from the upstairs apartment of Nevaeh's friend where she had been that afternoon, and a carpet fiber sample from her own apartment to compare the two. IMO, LE will know pretty quickly which apartment the fibers that were under Nevaeh's nails came from.

The carpet in the two apartments might not have been installed at the same time and could have come from 2 different lots. I really do not think it would take the lab very long to compare the fibers and determine which apartment they came from.

I wonder if the dirt found in Nevaeh's throat and lungs was actually mixed with concrete dust? That would certainly imply that she was buried alive if any concrete dust was mixed in.

Hearing of Nevaeh being buried in concrete was bad enough. Now it is thought she was buried alive. I hope we know more soon. I am thoroughly sickened by what this little girl had to endure.

Hi LaLaw, Remember the article also said she had several fibres on her body as well as under her fingernails. How could that be and what does it tell us?

Maybe it points to her being naked on a carpet and then was put into some container for transport to the area where he was going to dispose of her. It wouldn't look suspicious that way, just a fisherman hauling in his gear.

Her body might have been damp from perspiration or anything, and so when she was taken out of this container the fibres stuck to her body and he didn't notice it. He was too busy killing her and tossing concrete dust on top of her. Her fighting him off might have angered him. He is no regular pedo for sure IMO like Eues said! xox


PS LeLaw, I think the color of the carpet fibres had to be the same as that in the apts or LE wouldn't be there taking samples.

DotsEyes
07-18-2009, 01:52 AM
Oh for Pete's sake, they took fibers from AB's apartment carpet to compare them to the fibers found under her nails because she had been there on that afternoon, nothing more, nothing less. Same as her own home carpet.

I bet they also took samples from GK's motel room and JS's house and a lot of other houses where she was known to play.

wandering
07-18-2009, 03:51 AM
I think that Nevaeh knew her killer, and that's why she was killed. I also think the killer was in a hurry to dispose of her. He/she knew the mother would be looking for her.

SeriouslySearching
07-18-2009, 04:34 AM
I think the DNA on the beer can and cigarette butts will be the two critical pieces of evidence to find her killer.

It sounds to me they are looking for a crime scene where the ordeal began to unfold in a bad way.

wandering
07-18-2009, 07:56 AM
I think the DNA on the beer can and cigarette butts will be the two critical pieces of evidence to find her killer.

It sounds to me they are looking for a crime scene where the ordeal began to unfold in a bad way.

I think so, too. The killer obviously didn't think she would be found. That, or he/she is incredibly stupid.

They are keeping all this close to the vest, but I think they have a suspect not yet revealed. They're tying it all together, imo.

athy
07-18-2009, 09:26 AM
i thought, though i'm not sure whether it was from a poster here or in a news report. that LE found the person who's dna was on the beer can and they said it wasn't related. the person had nothing to do with the crime. i believe the poster said they knew the guys that were partying there...and that they were cleared. i might be mistaken, it was a while ago. i'll see if i can find where i read that.

fortytwo
07-19-2009, 08:39 AM
I think so, too. The killer obviously didn't think she would be found. That, or he/she is incredibly stupid.

They are keeping all this close to the vest, but I think they have a suspect not yet revealed. They're tying it all together, imo.
(bold above by me)

I don't believe that we have an either/or situation here. The killer is both incredibly stupid and didn't think that the body would be found.

In fact, not thinking that is a great part of the evidence of such stupidity.

In addition to not being the sharpest knife in the drawer, I think we'll find out that there was a lot of chemically augumented stupidity involved.

DotsEyes
07-20-2009, 06:43 AM
I don't think the killer and the grave digger are one and the same person.

mistivon
07-20-2009, 12:52 PM
I agree. I know people are skeptical...but I think possibly JB or someone killed her on accident, and got someone to help her cover it up. Who would risk their lives basically for helping her? IDK the answer to that, it's jmo.

DotsEyes
07-20-2009, 07:38 PM
I agree. I know people are skeptical...but I think possibly JB or someone killed her on accident, and got someone to help her cover it up. Who would risk their lives basically for helping her? IDK the answer to that, it's jmo.

Someone who was already going to jail for hanging out with the Buchanans and had cement mix, drinks that kind of beer and fishes in that spot?

It wasn't an accident. Someone smothered her with dirt.

Scenario: NB is running around the apartment like 5 tears olds do. She knocks over a potted plant, all dirt spills on the carpet and she is told to pick it up. She doesn't do a great job, dirt is still on the floor so someone shoves her face down in the dirt, so can she see it. (You can't see it? I'll show you where it is!) She claws at the carpet trying to get up, aspirates on the dirt and dies.

The fixer is called in to move the body.

tunker2000
07-25-2009, 10:02 AM
July 25, 2009
Taken from Monroe Evening News
Nevaeh Buchanan Task Force lists latest report

The Nevaeh Buchanan Task Force issued a press release Friday that discusses the number of tips it has received to date and attempts to clear up some rumors that have been talked about in regards to the investigation.

The task force reports it is continuing to follow up on the more than 1,200 tips and resulting leads on the case, in which the 5-year-old Monroe girl went missing May 24 and was found dead June 4.

"Only partial results have been received on the analysis of evidence recovered at the gravesite and submitted to the Michigan State Police Crime Laboratory," the notice said.

In the meantime, the task force reports there is a rumor circulating "in the news community" that a driver's license of George Kennedy was found in the River Raisin. Mr. Kennedy was reported as a person of interest early in the investigation.

However, the story as related in the rumor is not correct.

Here is what the officers are saying: "An expired state of Michigan identification card belonging to George Kennedy was found by a passerby on Wednesday, July 22, in a small creek alongside Telegraph Road near where Kennedy was residing. It does not appear to have any significance to the Buchanan investigation."

~dragonfly~
07-25-2009, 08:20 PM
July 25, 2009
Taken from Monroe Evening News
Nevaeh Buchanan Task Force lists latest report

The Nevaeh Buchanan Task Force issued a press release Friday that discusses the number of tips it has received to date and attempts to clear up some rumors that have been talked about in regards to the investigation.

The task force reports it is continuing to follow up on the more than 1,200 tips and resulting leads on the case, in which the 5-year-old Monroe girl went missing May 24 and was found dead June 4.

"Only partial results have been received on the analysis of evidence recovered at the gravesite and submitted to the Michigan State Police Crime Laboratory," the notice said.

In the meantime, the task force reports there is a rumor circulating "in the news community" that a driver's license of George Kennedy was found in the River Raisin. Mr. Kennedy was reported as a person of interest early in the investigation.

However, the story as related in the rumor is not correct.

Here is what the officers are saying: "An expired state of Michigan identification card belonging to George Kennedy was found by a passerby on Wednesday, July 22, in a small creek alongside Telegraph Road near where Kennedy was residing. It does not appear to have any significance to the Buchanan investigation."

i wonder how much longer it will take to have full results

LLLindsayy
07-25-2009, 08:24 PM
Here is what the officers are saying: "An expired state of Michigan identification card belonging to George Kennedy was found by a passerby on Wednesday, July 22, in a small creek alongside Telegraph Road near where Kennedy was residing. It does not appear to have any significance to the Buchanan investigation."


Well, that's strange anyway. I wonder when it expired? I don't toss my expired ID cards into creeks.

LaLaw2000
07-28-2009, 10:50 AM
It seems that these days a child can go missing, be found murdered, and it is harder than ever to find the murderer. How have these murderers gotten so much smarter than LE and the FBI? I just cannot get over it.

Nevaeh deserves justice. I think JB needs a much closer look. JMO

Salem
07-31-2009, 12:30 AM
Where is the arrest? What the heck is going on here? They must know who did it by now..... Geeeeeezzzzzzzzz

Arrest the perp already!!!!!!

Salem

impatientredhead
07-31-2009, 03:45 AM
Where is the arrest? What the heck is going on here? They must know who did it by now..... Geeeeeezzzzzzzzz

Arrest the perp already!!!!!!

Salem

The lack of an arrest and the lack of pleas for help from the public tells me they already know who did this and they are already incarcerated. There is no benefit for them to rush forward with charges. There is no statute of limitations, and if all the forensics are not even back there is no reason to pull the trigger on the defendants right to a speedy trial.

The prosecutors are just putting all their ducks in a row since they have the benefit of not having to get this psycho of the streets. MOO

Salem
07-31-2009, 10:50 AM
I hope you are right, Impatient. I'm not feeling as confident. LE has said that the killer is still in the community. AND the length of time it is taking to process the forensics really surprises me. LE said this was a top priority case and as such, would get priority treatment at the lab. It has been over a month, maybe 2 now? since Neveah was found.

LE's initial comments led me to believe it probably was not GK. So that leads me to RS?

I wish LE would at least say they think they know and they are just putting the evidence together if it was one of those POSs they arrested.

Don't mean to rant, I just can't believe this is taking so long.

Salem

eyes4crime
07-31-2009, 04:16 PM
I hope you are right, Impatient. I'm not feeling as confident. LE has said that the killer is still in the community. AND the length of time it is taking to process the forensics really surprises me. LE said this was a top priority case and as such, would get priority treatment at the lab. It has been over a month, maybe 2 now? since Neveah was found.

LE's initial comments led me to believe it probably was not GK. So that leads me to RS?

I wish LE would at least say they think they know and they are just putting the evidence together if it was one of those POSs they arrested.

Don't mean to rant, I just can't believe this is taking so long.

Salem

Salem: Seems to me that Nevaeh being found caked in cement is holding up the forensics...not sure how DNA does in that stuff. mho

If it's not George, it sure seems like someone trying to make it look like him. Whoever did this is sadistic - likes torture and suffering. :mad: mho

kiki the parrot
08-01-2009, 08:27 PM
The lack of an arrest and the lack of pleas for help from the public tells me they already know who did this and they are already incarcerated. There is no benefit for them to rush forward with charges. There is no statute of limitations, and if all the forensics are not even back there is no reason to pull the trigger on the defendants right to a speedy trial.

The prosecutors are just putting all their ducks in a row since they have the benefit of not having to get this psycho of the streets. MOO

I pray you are right... Every day I check the Free Press and here etc, hoping for news of a break or an arrest in this case. Hopefully, whomever is responsible is already in custody as you say. The only other possible explanation I can come up w for lack of urgency to arrest while building a case might be eg filicide or another close familial relationship (crime of rage/passion) if LE believed likeleihood of another being victimized to be negligible--but certainly not in any situation where any other child or citizen was believed at risk or w/in proximity of that same suspect.

Because unless or until this community can be given some sort of assurances, they must be keeping their children under lock and key--and sleeping w one eye open. What a senseless, heartbreaking waste of a beautiful child's life. :(

:parrot:

LaLaw2000
08-03-2009, 11:44 PM
I still check here everyday to see if there has been an arrest or any progress in little Nevaehs' case. Actually, it would not surpeise me if Jennifer were not arrested any day.

Chilly Willy
08-05-2009, 06:52 PM
I expected we'd see someone arrested within days of Nevaeh's body being found. This is very disappointing and frustrating.

Salem
08-06-2009, 11:08 AM
Salem: Seems to me that Nevaeh being found caked in cement is holding up the forensics...not sure how DNA does in that stuff. mho

If it's not George, it sure seems like someone trying to make it look like him. Whoever did this is sadistic - likes torture and suffering. :mad: mho

I agree eyes. I also admit I am baffled by this case. LE statements are contradictory to what we know about GK & RS. I want to know if there is indeed a monster running loose in that community. I wish they would give us a clue.

I hear what you are saying about the cement - still it seems it is taking an awful long time. I would feel better if LE made some comment about NOT having to sleep with one eye open. Just something so that we could figure out that LE really does think they have the perp behind bars. They don't have to come right out and say anything, just give us a clue.

Salem

~greeneyedgirl~
08-06-2009, 01:26 PM
just checkin up on this case, it really saddens me that no arrests have been made yet....

Salem
08-07-2009, 11:08 AM
Here's what I mean about info from LE on this case:

Fair can't escape fear
last modified August 06. 2009 11:18AM
<snipped>
A nagging fear dwells in the minds of many cautious parents at this year’s Monroe County Fair.


Could the culprit be at the fair? "Of course you can’t answer that," Monroe County Sheriff Tilman Crutchfield said. "The only way you’ll know for sure is when we finally identify the person involved."

Could the killer still be in the area? "Absolutely," he said.

Although two "persons of interest" in the case are in jail on unrelated charges, the sheriff indicated no break in the case appears imminent.

"Eventually we’re going to solve it," he said. "I think we’ll solve it, but it will not be as quickly as we hoped for or certainly not as quickly as the public wants, but we’ll solve it."

Article:
http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090806/NEWS01/708069970 (http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090806/NEWS01/708069970)

"when we finally identify the person" does that mean tell the rest of us who it is or that LE doesn't know?

No breaks in the case??????

He "thinks" they will solve the case?

What the he*l...... They should know by now. I'm not buying this double speak. But again, it leads me to believe it was NOT one of the SOs that were arrested on other charges. Especially when LE says "absolutely" the killer could still be in the area. :eek::eek: Not a way to make the community feel safe. Why would LE do that, if they could quiet some of the fears of the parents in the community???? Why?

I'm very frustrated with this case. :confused::confused:

Salem

Salem
08-07-2009, 03:46 PM
I know you guys are probably tired of my ranting - but..... now this :eek::furious:

$20,000 offered for clues in Nevaeh's death
August 7, 2009
<snipped>
The Monroe County Sheriff’s Department said today the task force investigating the death of Nevaeh Buchanan is offering up to $20,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible.

More than 1,200 tips have been received and police say evidence still is being analyzed from her shallow grave along the River Raisin in Monroe County’s Raisinville Township, where she was discovered June 4.


Article:
http://www.freep.com/article/20090807/NEWS05/90807029/-20-000-offered-for-clues-in-Nevaeh-s-death (http://www.freep.com/article/20090807/NEWS05/90807029/-20-000-offered-for-clues-in-Nevaeh-s-death)

NOW - they are posting a $20,000 reward for info. It does NOT sound like it was GK or RS that did this. It sounds like the Sheriff/FBI does not have any idea what the heck is going on here. How can that be? I don't understand..... :confused::confused: :(

There are more articles in the media thread about this.

Salem

joga
08-07-2009, 06:15 PM
i saw that article today too Salem, and I came over to say it sure doesn't seem like they have any idea who did this! i hope that is not the case, but i'm really starting to get concerned about this case. i agree that the police would (or should) at least give the community some indication if they thought they had the person responsible for her death incarcertated.

SeriouslySearching
08-07-2009, 06:29 PM
I know you guys are probably tired of my ranting - but..... now this :eek::furious:



NOW - they are posting a $20,000 reward for info. It does NOT sound like it was GK or RS that did this. It sounds like the Sheriff/FBI does not have any idea what the heck is going on here. How can that be? I don't understand..... :confused::confused: :(

There are more articles in the media thread about this.

SalemNo. Sure doesn't appear they have a clue, does it?

Chicogirl36
08-09-2009, 06:00 AM
BUMPING FOR NEVEAH

WE WILL FIND OUT WHO HURT YOU SWEET ANGEL!!!!

:angel: :blowkiss:

~greeneyedgirl~
08-10-2009, 01:00 PM
no arrests yet.............

scandi
08-15-2009, 03:16 AM
Salem: Seems to me that Nevaeh being found caked in cement is holding up the forensics...not sure how DNA does in that stuff. mho

If it's not George, it sure seems like someone trying to make it look like him. Whoever did this is sadistic - likes torture and suffering. :mad: mho


Hi Eyes, I just heard an interesting tid-bit watching Criminal Minds:

A perp who redresses his victims feels remorse.

I don't think the person who killed Nevaeh had any remorse at all. He was just finished and thought the concrete rock he created using her body would blend into the landscape. And he never looked back IMO.


PS: Hi to All, and I agree Salem, waiting this long for an arrest is hard to deal with. xox

LaLaw2000
08-15-2009, 05:25 AM
Still checking here for news of an arrest. Impatiently, I might add.

Bobbisangel
08-17-2009, 03:35 AM
I know you guys are probably tired of my ranting - but..... now this :eek::furious:



NOW - they are posting a $20,000 reward for info. It does NOT sound like it was GK or RS that did this. It sounds like the Sheriff/FBI does not have any idea what the heck is going on here. How can that be? I don't understand..... :confused::confused: :(

There are more articles in the media thread about this.

Salem


I wonder if LE even checked the stores that sell cement to see who bought cement the week before this little girl went missing. I doubt if everyone and their uncle was out buying cement. The killer probably bought two or three bags. Every store in that area doesn't sell cement. No matter how much time it takes that should have been checked out if it wasn't. Who knows, it could lead them right to the killer. Hopfully the killer used a debit card or credit card to pay for it.

Kat
08-17-2009, 01:09 PM
Still checking here for news of an arrest. Impatiently, I might add.

Yes me too.

jnTexas
08-17-2009, 08:44 PM
Thinking about Nehaeh today....I'm hoping for the community that the LE have the right guy in jail, and they are just crossing t's and dotting i's before they indicted him. Seeing as he is going no where, and if the charge him he has the right to a speedy trial.
I just hope if anyone else is invovled they get to see their day in court too!

LaLaw2000
08-19-2009, 09:10 AM
Bumping for Nevaeh.

Little Robert Manwill's mother and her boyfriend were arrested yesterday afternoon for his murder. Here is hoping that I also check here one morning and find that little Nevaeh's murderer(s) have been arrested also.

There simply has to be justice for her!

lonetraveler
08-19-2009, 04:11 PM
Bumping for Nevaeh.

Little Robert Manwill's mother and her boyfriend were arrested yesterday afternoon for his murder. Here is hoping that I also check here one morning and find that little Nevaeh's murderer(s) have been arrested also.

There simply has to be justice for her!

OH LaLaw, I didn't know that about Robert's mother and boyfriend. I usually check everyday or two for new information. I have been watching the first trial in the Christian-Newsom murders. Thanks. I'm also waiting to hear about an arrest in Nevaeh's murder.............very hard to do.

Idaho4Groenes
08-24-2009, 07:24 PM
Just checking in for Nevaeh. The delayed arrest in Robert's case gave me hope, but this has been going on for far too long for Nevaeh. May justice for her come soon.

mysticrose
08-25-2009, 09:49 AM
Nevaeh Buchanan case still unsolved

Monday, August 24, 2009

The Monroe County sheriff's department tells us there is no new information. There is a $20,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of Nevaeh Buchanan's killers

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=6980440

Bumping for Nevaeh..I just can't believe there have been absolutley no arrest's made in this case, I can only hope that LE is still waiting on more evidence to be looked into to pin this down.
May justice come soon and your killer never sleep.

A_Closer_Look
08-25-2009, 01:43 PM
I really believed they knew more than they were letting on.
It appears I was wrong :(

Kat
08-25-2009, 02:31 PM
I really believed they knew more than they were letting on.
It appears I was wrong :(

I was wrong then too ACL.

It's been three months, I can't imagine there are any test results they haven't received yet. Even any DNA test would more than likely have come back by now. :(

mysticrose
08-25-2009, 03:36 PM
I was wrong then too ACL.

It's been three months, I can't imagine there are any test results they haven't received yet. Even any DNA test would more than likely have come back by now. :(

Hi Kat, I know it seems like forever to me but look at the article below,
apparently a Detroit Rapist took priority over Nevaeh so not sure if everything is back yet or not:

DNA search for Detroit rapist took priority

Snipped by me:

The suspect sought by authorities "was an immediate threat to the public," Capt. Michael Thomas, director of the MSP's forensic science division, said when explaining why the assaults were pushed to the top of the state's most-urgent list.



But authorities say the expediency came with a price: Thousands of other cases sat ignored
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The last case to get the dubious honor of being the State Police's top priority was that of Nevaeh Buchanan, the 5-year-old Monroe girl whose body was discovered last month in a shallow grave in Raisinville Township.


"Any time we take to focus on one case, something else gets pushed back," Thomas said. "It's a very big concern" to public safety.


Perhaps of even more concern: One of the state's seven crime labs is set to close Oct. 1 because of state budget problems, and state workers still have five days of unpaid furlough to take in the next three months.

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At year's end, the State Police lab was behind 2,989 cases needing biological testing, which includes DNA analysis, Thomas said. Even after sending nearly 2,000 of those cases to outside agencies, the state, as of June 30, was still backlogged 2,341 cases -- and the number is climbing.


"We're behind and we're not catching up," Thomas said.

http://www.freep.com/article/20090728/NEWS01/907280360

PMLsmom
08-25-2009, 03:54 PM
I guess a child murderer is not an "immediate threat to the public," even though, according to to police (sheriffs?), they do not have any clues as to who did this??????

I come here every day, hoping for SOMETHING...God, I know YOU will take good care of Neveah!

Kat
08-25-2009, 04:26 PM
:doh: thanks mysticrose

LaLaw2000
08-26-2009, 09:42 AM
Checking again and see that no arrest has been made. When, when, when???

mysticrose
08-29-2009, 03:37 PM
Events scheduled to raise money, awareness
, last modified August 26. 2009 11:21AM

Fundraiser planned


The extended family of Nevaeh Buchanan will host a fundraising spaghetti dinner from 3 to 10 p.m. Sunday at Sgt. Stanley Romanow-ski Post 6896, Veterans of Foreign Wars, hall, 28945 Joy Rd., Westland.


The goal is to collect enough money to erect a memorial park bench in Nevaeh’s honor at Riverside Early Childhood Center and to start an annual preschool scholarship fund.


Raffles for prizes donated by area merchants in Westland, Garden City, Livonia and Monroe will be conducted, as well as hourly 50/50 raffles. There will be live music, face painting and clowns for the kids.


Memorial T-shirts will be available.


The cost of the dinner is $8 for adults and $4 for children. Tickets can be purchased at the door.


For more information, call Risa Thompson at 419-3232 in the Garden City/Westland area or Anthony Boyer at 497-3898 in the Monroe area
http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090826/NEWS01/708269982

mysticrose
08-31-2009, 06:32 PM
I wonder why mom didn't show...I sure wish LE would say something.
I am so glad to hear that 'other family members' are doing things to keep her name out there.
Praying for answers....

Jennifer Buchanan was invited to Sunday's event, Thompson said, but she didn't come
http://www.detnews.com/article/20090831/METRO/908310332/1409/METRO/Nevaeh-s-family-still-seeking-answers-in-her-death

SailorMoon
09-03-2009, 12:18 PM
You know....I'm almost certain to say that these types of crimes peez off and sicken LE as much as they do us. That's the faith I'm going by today....that they are working on it and something will crack. What's her mom up to these days??? This poor child......

bessie
09-14-2009, 09:29 PM
Still no word, no arrest, nothing. :confused: Rest in peace, pretty girl.

SailorMoon
09-15-2009, 09:35 PM
Any locals on here? What's her mom been up to and doing?? So sad...such a beautiful child to die so cruelly.

trigger
09-24-2009, 10:22 PM
Still no word, no arrest, nothing. :confused: Rest in peace, pretty girl.

I followed this case from the beginning. I thought by now there would have been an arrest. Always look to see if there was any news. So sad but at least they found this poor child.

bessie
10-03-2009, 10:54 PM
For all things, there is a season. For now, we wait patiently and faithfully. Today, as everyday, I offer prayers for you, sweet Neveah. You are not forgotten. Rest in peace, pretty girl.

Chicogirl36
10-04-2009, 02:21 AM
I have been waiting for a new post here for a while now. Sad, I had hoped that by now someone would have beeen arrested and held accountable for this sweet girl's life. :angel:

I hope the community has not forotten about sweet Nevaeh. We havent :blowkiss:

joga
10-06-2009, 01:03 PM
i know, i google her name almost everyday hoping that some news, ANY NEWS, will come. her killer needs to be brought to justice, she deserves that. so sad...

believe09
10-06-2009, 01:46 PM
Thanks for bumping the thread everyone...

mysticrose
10-07-2009, 11:08 AM
This may have been posted already, but anything to bump Nevaeh's thread. I'm a little miffed at the article below only because Nevaeh's grandmother seems to be the only one talking on her behalf, where the h**l is her MOTHER ! Seems that she ducked out long ago from saying anything !
Any how I check daily in hopes of progress for this poor girls case some one knows something...it is time tospeak up !
************************************************** *************

Nevaeh's Family Waits for Answers
Reported by: Heather Catallo
Email: hcatallo@wxyz.com
Last Update: 9/25 10:18 am

Buchanan vanished from her home.
Detectives still have not caught the child’s killer – and Nevaeh’s family is begging for information.
Action News Investigator Heather Catallo has the latest in this tragic murder mystery.

This week – the Monroe County Sheriff released a new poster that begs for information about Nevaeh Buchanan’s murder.
But at this point Nevaeh’s family – wants more than glossy pictures and reward money – they want justice for Monroe’s little angel.


[Sherry Buchanan/Novae’s Grandma] “I don’t want to admit to myself that she’s gone. I want her to come home. I want her to come home still yet.”

Sherry Buchanan is constantly in pain.

[Sherry Buchanan/Nevaeh’s Grandma] “I cry to God every day. And I even looked at her picture on the TV, and I said, baby, Grandma’s going to find whoever did this. I said, I won’t rest until I know

http://www.wxyz.com/content/news/investigators/story/Nevaehs-Family-Waits-for-Answers/C364AFjI5Ua04pyeo_Mojg.cspx

PMLsmom
10-12-2009, 03:44 PM
Bump for Nevaeh...I cannot believe nothing is happening. Very frustrating, to say the least!!!

scandi
10-12-2009, 11:26 PM
Bump for Nevaeh...I cannot believe nothing is happening. Very frustrating, to say the least!!!

BUMP for Nevaeh too. I always watch this thread and can not believe NOTHING has happened in her case lately. Her little body must have yielded some clues, eh? xox

Carrington
10-26-2009, 12:02 PM
Police have no suspects in her murder.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33474089

I don't understand why LE seems to have dropped the ball on Nevaeh, they were so gun-ho in the beginning.

IMO

twall
10-26-2009, 12:59 PM
I just read this comment on the Monroe News site

Word is that Jennifer Buchanan is 7 Months pregnant, So tell me this, is the state going to step in and take this one away, or are they goin to wait until SHE kills this one as well????? This is what the world needs to know...... But they are probably goin to wait, cause thats just Monroe for you... a very sorry commuity that dont know when the truth is right in front of them and just waits for something bad to happen, then they want to act like they are doin something..... i wouls also like to know what the S.O. Daddy is thinking, is this the reason why they had to get rid of little Nevaeh, becuase she wasnt good enough to have around so she could have a little brother or sister, oh wait she already does now, but she will never get to meet them.... Rest In Peace Nevaeh.. We Love You... And Miss You!!!!!!

-- Posted by NoHopeForTheWickedNotTheyAreFree on Sat, Oct 24, 2009, 6:44 pm EST [report this comment]

IMO, since there were no signs of sexual assault to Neveah I believe her "mom" is involved and also her piece of crap bf.
I think LE knows this but do not have enough to make charges stick or "prove" it.

My thoughts and opinions only.

LookyLu
11-02-2009, 11:41 AM
Hello. I'm a metro Detroiter and new to the board. I remember following the news on the search for Nevaeh very closely and hoping & praying they'd find her alive. When they found her as they did, it just broke my heart along with thousands of others that were watching and praying across the country! As a parent, a grandparent of 3, a Michigander and just as a human being, I'm completely dumbfounded as to why or how LE has managed to come up with nothing, or so it would seem anyway. This little angel deserves justice and our children deserve the right to protection from LE from lowlifes like this. :furious:
LE needs to find this creep/creepess and get him/her off our streets! There is just so little even mentioned any more. Nevaeh deserves LE's attention and somebody dedicated to see this case thru!

Bobbisangel
11-14-2009, 02:03 AM
I just read this comment on the Monroe News site

Word is that Jennifer Buchanan is 7 Months pregnant, So tell me this, is the state going to step in and take this one away, or are they goin to wait until SHE kills this one as well????? This is what the world needs to know...... But they are probably goin to wait, cause thats just Monroe for you... a very sorry commuity that dont know when the truth is right in front of them and just waits for something bad to happen, then they want to act like they are doin something..... i wouls also like to know what the S.O. Daddy is thinking, is this the reason why they had to get rid of little Nevaeh, becuase she wasnt good enough to have around so she could have a little brother or sister, oh wait she already does now, but she will never get to meet them.... Rest In Peace Nevaeh.. We Love You... And Miss You!!!!!!

-- Posted by NoHopeForTheWickedNotTheyAreFree on Sat, Oct 24, 2009, 6:44 pm EST [report this comment]IMO, since there were no signs of sexual assault to Neveah I believe her "mom" is involved and also her piece of crap bf.
I think LE knows this but do not have enough to make charges stick or "prove" it.

My thoughts and opinions only.




Well isn't that just what the mother of the year needs is a baby! Maybe it will be a girl and she'll bring home more sex offenders so they can hurt this little one. She doesn't deserve any kids.

I wouldn't be surprised if the mother doesn't know something or was involved. She talked terrible about her beautiful little girl and complained about her all of the time. Why she even had her is beyond me. It was said that they lived with the grandmother but it didn't seem to me that the grandmother was there with all of those perverts hanging around. One of them is probably the baby daddy. This mother hadn't even raised that little girl...the grandmother did. If I had been the grandmother she wouldn't have taken that little girl until she could prove to me that she was ready to be a mom and obviously she wasn't ready.

Why is this case so hard to solve? With all of the creeps hanging out at the apartment it must have been one of them or it was the mom. Can't they track who bought cement during that timeline? Someone sure as heck bought some. Was the cement bags left behind anywhere? I think LE needs some help to get this case resolved. Where is the FBI or someone with some knowledge? This baby girl deserves justice.

IMO, since there were no signs of sexual assault to Neveah I believe her "mom" is involved and also her piece of crap bf.
I think LE knows this but do not have enough to make charges stick or "prove" it.

My thoughts and opinions only.[/QUOTE]

sillybilly
11-19-2009, 04:53 PM
Tricia is asking for WSrs immediate help !!

URGENT !!

www.klaasKids.org/pg-truckerTV.htm

Marc Klaas and KlaasKids desperately needs help NOW from each and every Websleuther to support Trucker TV through America. This could be the single most important thing any of us can ever do for missing children.

Please take 3 minutes to read the above link, click the REPLY button, express your support or voice your concerns, click SEND.

Then forward the above link to your email contacts, everyone, everywhere, so they can do the same.

www.klaasKids.org/pg-truckerTV.htm

LaLaw2000
12-03-2009, 10:40 AM
I see there still has been no arrests in Nevaeh's case. She deserves justice.

I really used to feel that when a body is found relatively quickly, forensic evidence on the body and at the recovery scene would point toward the murderer. Not so in this case. I thought LE had forensic evidence.

Fresh eyes need to go in there and look at the whole case.

MOO

believe09
12-03-2009, 10:54 AM
I see there still has been no arrests in Nevaeh's case. She deserves justice.

I really used to feel that when a body is found relatively quickly, forensic evidence on the body and at the recovery scene would point toward the murderer. Not so in this case. I thought LE had forensic evidence.

Fresh eyes need to go in there and look at the whole case.

MOO

I have seen a few cases like this in the past when it is the DA who is blocking the charges vs LE. I am sure LE has presented what they have and what they believe happened. They may want a grand jury indictment, ala Casey Anthony, or they may be unwilling to pursue the case.....so we wait.

AmandaReckonwith
12-06-2009, 12:41 PM
Just a bump for Nevaeh, with pics:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Nevaeh%20Buchanan/

Harmony2
12-06-2009, 09:00 PM
Well isn't that just what the mother of the year needs is a baby! Maybe it will be a girl and she'll bring home more sex offenders so they can hurt this little one. She doesn't deserve any kids.

I wouldn't be surprised if the mother doesn't know something or was involved. She talked terrible about her beautiful little girl and complained about her all of the time. Why she even had her is beyond me. It was said that they lived with the grandmother but it didn't seem to me that the grandmother was there with all of those perverts hanging around. One of them is probably the baby daddy. This mother hadn't even raised that little girl...the grandmother did. If I had been the grandmother she wouldn't have taken that little girl until she could prove to me that she was ready to be a mom and obviously she wasn't ready.

Why is this case so hard to solve? With all of the creeps hanging out at the apartment it must have been one of them or it was the mom. Can't they track who bought cement during that timeline? Someone sure as heck bought some. Was the cement bags left behind anywhere? I think LE needs some help to get this case resolved. Where is the FBI or someone with some knowledge? This baby girl deserves justice.

IMO, since there were no signs of sexual assault to Neveah I believe her "mom" is involved and also her piece of crap bf.
I think LE knows this but do not have enough to make charges stick or "prove" it.

My thoughts and opinions only.

Where did you read that there were no signs of sexual assault? I must have missed that. Could you please direct me to that information with a link? TIA

twall
12-07-2009, 05:06 AM
Where did you read that there were no signs of sexual assault? I must have missed that. Could you please direct me to that information with a link? TIA

I think that part of my post got in with the one you quoted when bobbisangel quoted my post.
I am the one who posted the info. I am sorry-I should have provided a link. It is what it is-we won't know until there is an arrest and trial when the autopsy results can be released.
Here is a quote from Jennifer B.-

Jennifer Buchanan said she was told her daughter's body had no signs of trauma or sexual assault. The only substance in her system was caffeine, probably from pop. Forensic results showed she did not have any drug in her system.

That I read in this article-

http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091016/NEWS01/710169986/-1/NEWS

concerned4kids
12-16-2009, 08:54 AM
I am just now reading and hearing about this case..... I can not believe that they have not named her killer yet... Who would do that to a child??

This world is a crazy place and we just have to keep praying for all of our children..Some of the things that these kids are suffering from through neglect on the parents part.. Its just sickening...

Bobbisangel
12-29-2009, 12:08 AM
Where did you read that there were no signs of sexual assault? I must have missed that. Could you please direct me to that information with a link? TIA


The autopsy results are out now and sexual assult wasn't mentioned. It just says that she was suffacated by being buried alive or her face pushed down into the dirt. This is under Autopsy Results Released. So it seems that someone just wanted this child out of the way. Mother?

darlin gal
01-02-2010, 04:17 PM
I wish the new year will bring justice for you angel!

Not a day goes by when you don't cross my mind.

mysticrose
01-03-2010, 04:25 PM
Family still seeks answers, closure in girl's slaying
13,000 tips later, grisly Nevaeh case remains unsolved after 7 months


MONROE - Memories of Nevaeh Buchanan weigh heavily in the heart and mind of the slain girl's grandmother.

Sherry Buchanan said she hurts every day, but the holidays are among the hardest. She also is dreading Feb. 3, when her granddaughter would have turned 6 years old.

"I think about Nevaeh constantly. I just wish that she was here now," she said just days before Christmas. "I raised her from the first day she was born. I did everything with her."


Mrs. Buchanan recalled the morning after unwrapping gifts two years ago when Nevaeh crawled into her lap and hugged her tightly.

"She told me, 'Grandma, I love you,'•" Mrs. Buchanan said.

It was just more than seven months ago that Nevaeh went missing from the parking lot of Charlotte Arms Apartments, where she lived with her grandmother and her mother, Jennifer Buchanan

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100103/NEWS16/1030302

Magic Eyes
01-03-2010, 04:59 PM
Family still seeks answers, closure in girl's slaying
13,000 tips later, grisly Nevaeh case remains unsolved after 7 months


MONROE - Memories of Nevaeh Buchanan weigh heavily in the heart and mind of the slain girl's grandmother.

Sherry Buchanan said she hurts every day, but the holidays are among the hardest. She also is dreading Feb. 3, when her granddaughter would have turned 6 years old.

"I think about Nevaeh constantly. I just wish that she was here now," she said just days before Christmas. "I raised her from the first day she was born. I did everything with her."


Mrs. Buchanan recalled the morning after unwrapping gifts two years ago when Nevaeh crawled into her lap and hugged her tightly.

"She told me, 'Grandma, I love you,'•" Mrs. Buchanan said.

It was just more than seven months ago that Nevaeh went missing from the parking lot of Charlotte Arms Apartments, where she lived with her grandmother and her mother, Jennifer Buchanan

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100103/NEWS16/1030302

Thanks for the link, MysticRose. It's sad though that the link is from the Toledo Blade rather than The Monroe Evening News.

I live in Monroe just about a mile and a half from Charlotte Arms. I don't make any claims as to knowing the Buchanan family personally although I do 'know' the grandmother by sight. She went back to work at a local grocery store just a couple of weeks after the funeral service.

I don't know anything more than the rest of you since our local police department hasn't released any official information on this case in MONTHS. I do hear rumors, but this isn't the place to post them since they are just that...RUMORS.

I feel so badly for the grandmother. The grocery store she works at is the one grocery store in Monroe closest to my home. I don't do the majority of my grocery shopping there since it's not a 'major' store in town. I shop there when I just need things like milk, bread, and coffee.

I see the grandmother when I shop there. I try to avoid getting in her checkout line but sometimes her line is the only one open since as I said, it's not a major grocery store chain and really doesn't get much business.

So, sometimes hers is the ONLY checkout line. I can't always avoid looking at her. She looks totally broken down. Since this incident, I've thought of expressing my condolences to her when I am forced to be face to face with her.

My tongue gets tied, though. I can't say anything to make her feel better and in the back of my mind I think I would only tear the scab off the wound that might be healing some if I 'poked my nose in'.

Trust me, we locals are just so damned frustrated and our local newspaper hasn't updated this case in months. All I know is rumors and second had info that I can't post. Again, as I said, it's interesting that your link is from a Toledo OH newspaper.

Seems the local paper has forgotten all about this poor baby.

darlin gal
01-05-2010, 01:34 PM
Thanks for the link, MysticRose. It's sad though that the link is from the Toledo Blade rather than The Monroe Evening News.

I live in Monroe just about a mile and a half from Charlotte Arms. I don't make any claims as to knowing the Buchanan family personally although I do 'know' the grandmother by sight. She went back to work at a local grocery store just a couple of weeks after the funeral service.

I don't know anything more than the rest of you since our local police department hasn't released any official information on this case in MONTHS. I do hear rumors, but this isn't the place to post them since they are just that...RUMORS.

I feel so badly for the grandmother. The grocery store she works at is the one grocery store in Monroe closest to my home. I don't do the majority of my grocery shopping there since it's not a 'major' store in town. I shop there when I just need things like milk, bread, and coffee.

I see the grandmother when I shop there. I try to avoid getting in her checkout line but sometimes her line is the only one open since as I said, it's not a major grocery store chain and really doesn't get much business.

So, sometimes hers is the ONLY checkout line. I can't always avoid looking at her. She looks totally broken down. Since this incident, I've thought of expressing my condolences to her when I am forced to be face to face with her.

My tongue gets tied, though. I can't say anything to make her feel better and in the back of my mind I think I would only tear the scab off the wound that might be healing some if I 'poked my nose in'.

Trust me, we locals are just so damned frustrated and our local newspaper hasn't updated this case in months. All I know is rumors and second had info that I can't post. Again, as I said, it's interesting that your link is from a Toledo OH newspaper.

Seems the local paper has forgotten all about this poor baby.


I think next time you should look her straight in the eyes and say, "I am sorry for your loss. Your grandaughter Nevaeh was a beautiful child and I just wanted you to know people haven't forgotten about her. We love that little angel and want justice for her as much as you do."

Or something to that effect. :)

I know it's uncomfortable but I think the fact that someone one out there is remembering her grand baby and praying for justice would be of great comfort.

When we lose someone, as much as we miss them...we want them to be remembered and not forgotten.

Hugs to you.

Magic Eyes
01-05-2010, 08:05 PM
I think next time you should look her straight in the eyes and say, "I am sorry for your loss. Your grandaughter Nevaeh was a beautiful child and I just wanted you to know people haven't forgotten about her. We love that little angel and want justice for her as much as you do."

Or something to that effect. :)

I know it's uncomfortable but I think the fact that someone one out there is remembering her grand baby and praying for justice would be of great comfort.

When we lose someone, as much as we miss them...we want them to be remembered and not forgotten.

Hugs to you.

Thanks for the advice darlin gal. :) I feel awkward bringing it up after so many months have passed but you're right.

Maybe I should have added that when Nevaeh first went missing, and for several months after, I was confined to my home with severe health problems. I had friends and family doing my shopping for me so it's only been the last two months that I've been able to get to the grocery store where Gramma works on my own.

The length of time that's passed has been what's made me feel so awkward and afraid I'd open a (possibly) somewhat healed wound. But as I said, I think you're right and you helped me understand that.

Just as a side note, I just checked our local newspaper forum and someone who DOES claim to be a family member posted that the family is considering bringing psychics in since local LE has come up with nothing. Of course, that sparked some snarky comments from a few posters.

At any rate, I think Gramma might still feel comforted to know that so many of us still remember her precious grandbaby and hope for justice.

Again, thanks for helping me get past my 'stumbling block', darlin gal!

darlin gal
01-06-2010, 12:15 AM
No problem! I am glad to have helped.

I have been in that place on both sides. The awkwardness and not knowing if you should say something and acknowledge their loss and having loss someone and people not mentioning them for fear that I would break into tears.

Even if might tear me up, it still touches my heart to know that people care enough to remember them. It means the world.

I am especially glad to hear you are back on your feet and feeling better. :)


All the best to you hon! :)

Magic Eyes
01-06-2010, 01:14 AM
No problem! I am glad to have helped.

I have been in that place on both sides. The awkwardness and not knowing if you should say something and acknowledge their loss and having loss someone and people not mentioning them for fear that I would break into tears.

Even if might tear me up, it still touches my heart to know that people care enough to remember them. It means the world.

I am especially glad to hear you are back on your feet and feeling better. :)


All the best to you hon! :)

Hello again darlin gal!

I don't want to go off topic time after time, but it sounds like you've had first hand experience with a loss similar to this poor baby's fate.

If I'm understanding you correctly? My heart goes out to you sweetie.

Thanks for the well wishes on my health improving. I still am more concerned that local LE get off their behinds and actually make an arrest or at least reassure the community that this might have been an isolated incident. Even an 'isolated incident' isn't really sufficient for me at this time.

BUT LE could at least say whether they are pursuing one of JB's sex offender friends or whether there might still be an unknown dangerous person stalking children in our small town. My heart goes out to you as well since you seem to be indicating you've experienced a similar loss.

Love to you, darlin gal!

Aqua
01-07-2010, 05:11 AM
Not to be mean, but since I live in close proximity to the area, I stopped into the grocery store where Nevaeh's GM works two weeks ago.

She was cheerful, and didn't appear grief stricken at all. She was joking with me and everyone else within hearing distance.

She's never seemed to really care about what happened except in the first few days. Maybe that's normal for her, but it's NOT normal to me. :(




I feel so badly for the grandmother. The grocery store she works at is the one grocery store in Monroe closest to my home. I don't do the majority of my grocery shopping there since it's not a 'major' store in town. I shop there when I just need things like milk, bread, and coffee.

I see the grandmother when I shop there. I try to avoid getting in her checkout line but sometimes her line is the only one open since as I said, it's not a major grocery store chain and really doesn't get much business.

So, sometimes hers is the ONLY checkout line. I can't always avoid looking at her. She looks totally broken down. Since this incident, I've thought of expressing my condolences to her when I am forced to be face to face with her.

.

:waitasec: I'm confused.

darlin gal
02-03-2010, 06:16 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/nxkorp.jpg

Happy Birthday in Heaven, angel baby!

darlin gal
02-03-2010, 06:17 AM
http://i48.tinypic.com/nxkorp.jpg
Happy Birthday in Heaven, angel baby

OneLostGrl
02-08-2010, 02:42 PM
I very well remember the name of the WS poster who was interviewed on NG and claimed she had 'saved' the YouTube videos so that KC could never profit from them.

This same person has insinuated herself into the NB case in an ugly way. My point is this: Some people who claim to be 'websleuths' do far more harm than good.

I'll shut up for now unless someone requests that I share further opinions on how this one person has confounded and confused issues in more than one case. :)

:waitasec: wtf?!

jnTexas
02-12-2010, 12:23 AM
Thinking about Nevaeh today. Hoping for justice!!

darlin gal
02-14-2010, 04:14 PM
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/3100/11593293.gif

Happy Valentine's Day, Nevaeh!

Ms Suzanne
02-14-2010, 04:32 PM
I am just now starting to read more on little Nevaeh's case.I have followed her case.I thought they would find her killer by now.I think more attention needs to be on her case.Are the police doing anything on her case.Are there any new leads?

darlin gal
02-14-2010, 05:03 PM
Nothing new Ms. Suz.
Unfortunately Nevaeh is still waiting for Justice.
Here is the latest article about her 6th birthday.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100204/NEWS02/2040374

Ms Suzanne
02-14-2010, 05:45 PM
Yes little Nevaeh needs justice.This is very sad.I will help to keep her story alive.What do the LE think happened to her?I don't see alot happening in her case.

Ms Suzanne
02-14-2010, 06:21 PM
What is the LE # to contact for leads on Nevaeh and tip line?Is LE still asking for tips and leads on her case?

bessie
02-15-2010, 03:02 AM
Thank you, Darlin' Gal, for leaving the beautiful valentine for Neveah.

God bless you, pretty girl. Prayers for those who loved you and miss you.

darlin gal
02-15-2010, 06:52 AM
What is the LE # to contact for leads on Nevaeh and tip line?Is LE still asking for tips and leads on her case?




The Nevaeh Buchanan task force is offering up to $20,000 for any information that leads to the arrest and the conviction of her killer.
The task force is asking everyone – if you have information – no matter if it seems insignificant – to please call 734-457-6713.

darlin gal
02-15-2010, 07:59 PM
Almost a year and 13,000 tips later, no killer has been charged with the child's death
It's the most high-profile murder case in our area in years. Nevaeh Buchanan, 5, was taken from her home and buried alive. It happened last summer, but to this day, the crime remains unsolved.
Her name was Nevaeh-- heaven spelled backward-- and on her tombstone, she's called "Monroe's Little Angel."



http://abclocal.go.com/wtvg/story?section=news/local&id=7278752

New article w/video at the link.

Ms Suzanne
02-15-2010, 08:55 PM
Quote from the article.

We were all set to talk with a sergeant about the investigation and where it stands, when the sheriff of Monroe County pulled the plug. At this point, we are told there will be no on-camera interviews about the Nevaeh Buchanan case.



Why aren't they doing on-camera interviews?I think they need more attention again on little Nevaeh's case.I agree they do look like they quit looking.Is there someone else on the case.Maybe they need a detective or someone new to look at Nevaeh's case.It really does look like they quit looking.It's sad.This little girl Nevaeh needs justice.

lonetraveler
02-15-2010, 09:10 PM
This tragic case has really baffled me. I truly thought that the murderer of this precious little girl would be arrested immediately after her body was discovered. It is shocking that an arrest has not been made yet. I check for information often hoping to see that the perp is in custody.

darlin gal
02-23-2010, 08:24 PM
A local musician has wrote a song called "Nevaeh's Song"
You can select it on the song list @ the music player on the right side of the page
http://www.myspace.com/vassmajority


http://www.foxtoledo.com/dpp/news/local/Monroe-musicians-pen--Nevaehs-Song

iluvmua
02-26-2010, 10:29 AM
Why isn't Jennifer Buchanan out there pleading with people to help her find Neveah's killer like Somer Thompson's mom is doing?

iluvmua
02-26-2010, 10:31 AM
This tragic case has really baffled me. I truly thought that the murderer of this precious little girl would be arrested immediately after her body was discovered. It is shocking that an arrest has not been made yet. I check for information often hoping to see that the perp is in custody.

me too, but I'm more shocked that Neveah's "mother" thinks it's totally ok to have her daughter be around sex offenders.

JB has a screw loose somewhere. MOO

Angel Who Cares
02-27-2010, 01:30 PM
Local Michigander here....I check every local news broadcast & have others in the family to alert me if they see any breaking news in Nevaeh's case, in case I'm watching cable or not at home.

LE made it seem that they had a lot of evidence found with Nevaeh...What, Why & Where are the results to the tests? :confused:

My hinky meter does go off with them pulling the plug the other day for a news conference. I hope it is a sign that a lot is going on in the background..it's just not being disclosed to the media or the family! :crossfingers:

*I check for updates everyday on-line & add any to the media thread for everyone's reference....I pray everytime that I check that I see the words..."An Arrest.....!!!

:rose: :prayer: "Justice & Prayers For Monroe's Angel Nevaeh!" :prayer: :rose:

:angel:

Ms Suzanne
02-27-2010, 09:18 PM
I agree,My hinky meter does go off with them pulling the plug the other day for a news conference too.Hopefully someone else is investigating this case too and people keep pushing them for answers of what happened to Nevaeh.I also will not bash Nevaeh's mother.She did not deserve this and little Nevaeh didn't either.I pray she finds out what happened to her little girl and people care enough about this sweet little girl to keep looking for her killer.It's very sad.

iluvmua
02-28-2010, 12:04 PM
On *************, someone named JessStar (who works daily on the case) said that JB and family don't care about finding Neveah's killer, her B-day was just a Photo Opt for them.

also, if you go to this blog:

http://historymike.blogspot.com/2009/05/on-nevaeh-buchanan-and-irresponsible.html

you can read comments made by both sides of the family.

LaLaw2000
02-28-2010, 12:27 PM
I keep checking back here hoping for an arrest in Nevaeh's case. It is so sad that no one has been arrested yet.

darlin gal
03-04-2010, 07:59 AM
http://www.clickondetroit.com/video/22733867/index.html


New interview with Nevaeh's grandmother and her uncle Mike.
Mike says the FBI wanted him to wear a wire to record Jennifer. The FBI denies it.

Legal Beagle
03-07-2010, 06:41 PM
Over a year has passed now since Nevaeh's body was found. I keep looking into this site hoping to find more people from the community posting here and sharing ideas. I keep hoping law enforcement would have someone arrested by now UNLESS HE IS ALREADY BEHIND BARS. This crime is so disturbing and heartbreaking in light of the fact Nevaeh did not have a chance since her mother was involved with sex offenders. It is beyond heartbreaking for a grandmother who nurtured and loved this little girl so much. My heart goes out to her. Surely, surely, someone knows who did this. How can your little community rest and sleep in peace knowing that a sick animal could be out there lurking in the area?? I think of our dear Chelsea who was found raped and murdered in the San Diego area. Thousands reached out to help in the case. Why is this not happening in Nevaeh's town?? I find it extremely sad for Nevaeh deserved as much attention as Chelsea's case did here. I agree with another poster on here that perhaps new faces in the investigation need to be brought in if there is no PASSION to solve the case.

iluvmua
03-08-2010, 02:21 PM
Neveah's body was not found until June 4th 2009

amandab
03-09-2010, 04:54 PM
***bump***